From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 09:34:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id IAA19612 for sonic-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:50:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA19597 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:50:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA25294; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:50:02 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id IAA17605; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:50:04 -0400 Message-Id: <199605011250.IAA17605@edmund> Subject: Re: A few things: (Actually, a lot!) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 08:50:04 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <960430200644_284433474@emout13.mail.aol.com> from "KenP7672@aol.com" at Apr 30, 96 08:14:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Ken, As usual, thanks for your courteous reply. Just a couple points: > > I would compare working on SONIC to be almost as complex as working on STAR > TREK, which I have done for both DC Comics and Malibu. When working on any > TREK-related series, the primary guideline was anything filmed was considered > "official" TREK history. It's only now that some novels or certain projects > contain "official" information considered part of TREK lore. Even so, nothing > printed in comics is deemed official. In fact, Roddenberry supposedly > disavowed the animation series he spearheaded back in the early '70's, even > though it features stories by such TREK luminaries as D.C. Fontana, David > Gerrold and Walter Koenig. Not to mention the voices of the ORIGINAL CAST!!! > As far as I'm aware, even though Gene's ashes are scattered out in space, > Paramount still doesn't acknowledge the animated series. > I didn't know you'd done any "Trek" work -- cool! I second the motion concerning the animated series, if only because the Filmation animation was so shoddy and flat no amount of classy writing could have saved it. > Even Mike and I get it wrong ourselves. For instance, in A SENSE OF HISTORY > Part One, we showed a hedgehog pounding a sign into the ground with his > family standing nearby. We originally had on the sign "Future Site of > Knothole Village", as we thought it would be a neat bit to state that > Knothole Village stands where the Floating Island once existed. However, when > we wrote that, Mike Gallagher was only beginning to write the TAILS > mini-series. After he established the world of Downunda and Knuckles' > grandfather Athair, it was decided it made more sense since echidnas come > from Austrailia to have the Floating Island originate from Downunda. Due to a > rush of deadlines at this time, I wasn't even made aware of this until I saw > the printed story. > Yeah, I was wondering about that business with the sign myself. Since it couldn't be read in the final art I was left to wonder what kind of gag was involved. > > When Mike and I started working on the series, we were submitting stories > based on what Mike Gallagher was doing, as he was the primary writer at the > time. With each passing story, we started getting subversive and began > emphasizing more of the adventure aspects and less of the bad puns, using > humor when called for, and not doing a gag at the expense of the story. If > you go back and reread those early issues, you'll see how we gradually began > to steer the book in the direction we wanted rather than maintaining the > status quo. However, we could not have done this had the folks at SEGA not > been receptive to what we were trying to do. > I've made no secret about the fact that I've considered this to be an improvement. > > "Battle-hardened" describes an attitude, not tactics. If Sonic and Sally and > company had been fighting for over ten years with Robotnik, they'd have the > attitude and look reminiscent of soldiers fighting in the trenches during > World War II. And we'd love to do that, but we can't because of our young > audience. As it is, in order to get anything with an edge through, we use > Disney as our guideline, as in: If Disney can do it in their cartoons, why > can't we in our comics. > Actually, you and Mike have already opened the door for some "battle-hardened" Mobians: the cyborg freedom fighters alluded to at the beginning of "Night of a Thousand Sonics" (#19). This occurred to me one day when "Life During Wartime" by Talking Heads came on the radio and I found myself wondering if the Knothole gang had ever cranked it up to that level of intensity. I just couldn't picture it; the borg freedom fighters, on the other hand.... > As for Sonic's history, Mike and I have a rough timeline and what stories > we'd like to document about that timeline. For instance, if you read SONIC > #36, we mention Robotnik's mentor Kodos, who is going to feature very > prominently in the series after issue #50. In #17, we showed Robotnik taking > over Mobotropolis, and portray Julayla getting Sonic and Sally to safety. > Although we didn't have the room, Rosie was there as well, making sure that > Tails was escorted safely out of the war zone. Antoine and Rotor were at the > front lines, and beat a retreat to fight another day. Tails' parents were > among those roboticized, and we have yet to decide how or if we'll > incorporate them into the series. Y'see, we can answer your questions > regarding continuity, but this is the Archie version APPROVED by SEGA. > I'll probably get my chance to check out #36 this week: the distributor in this corner of Michigan doesn't drop off new issues until the first Thursday of the month. Am looking forward to the developments you described. And funny you should mention #17: I ordered that as a back issue a while back in order to have the complete "Sally's Crusade." Your description of what might have been included in the story had you not confronted space limitations makes me wonder whether or not Archie would issue a "director's cut" of a story such as "Sally's Crusade" in a Digest format. I know that that's probably asking too much, that it's more economical to do a straight reprint. Still, it sounds like a lot of good stuff was left on the cutting room floor, as it were. Thanks again for the reply. Dan From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 12:44:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA03528 for sonic-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:08:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com (emout14.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.40]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA03523 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:08:05 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA25129 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:07:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:07:35 -0400 Message-ID: <960501110734_104280744@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: A few things: (Actually, a lot!) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Dan, Not wishing to get off-topic, but DESPITE the shoddy animation, which really was the BEST on TV at that point in time, it's the STORIES which determine whether legitimacy should be conferred or not. Many of those stories on the TREK animated series do warrant inclusion into the continuity, especially YESTERYEAR, MORE TROUBLES MORE TRIBBLES and THE COUNTER-CLOCK INCIDENT. It would be like trying to dismiss a legitimate SONIC story on the basis that there was one aspect you didn't like. As for stuff "ending up on the cutting room floor", as it were, you'd be amazed at how many bits haven't been used in every story or changed because of one reason or another. In fact, it's only recently that we're able to develop the stories we can BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ANY ANIMATED SERIES to lead the cart. I fully believe after working on the KNUCKLES mini-series recently that if this were the situation when we did the PRINCESS SALLY mini-series, at the very least the villain and the mission would have been allowed as originally intended. I can't say more in case we can do that story in the future. BTW, I was wondering how come you hadn't commented on SONIC #36, good or bad, just yet. Ken From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 09:23:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id JAA20897 for sonic-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:07:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA20884 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:07:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA06897; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:07:13 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id JAA20750; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:07:15 -0400 Message-Id: <199605021307.JAA20750@edmund> Subject: Re: A few things: (Actually, a lot!) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 09:07:14 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <960501110734_104280744@emout14.mail.aol.com> from "KenP7672@aol.com" at May 1, 96 11:07:35 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > > Not wishing to get off-topic, but DESPITE the shoddy animation, which really > was the BEST on TV at that point in time, it's the STORIES which determine > whether legitimacy should be conferred or not. Many of those stories on the > TREK animated series do warrant inclusion into the continuity, especially > YESTERYEAR, MORE TROUBLES MORE TRIBBLES and THE COUNTER-CLOCK INCIDENT. It > would be like trying to dismiss a legitimate SONIC story on the basis that > there was one aspect you didn't like. > Actually, there have been several Sonic shows that were dismissed in just that fashion: "Ro-Becca," "Ghost Busted," "Fed Up With Antoine." Fan reaction when they aired was negative and immediate. The "one aspect" that tipped it in was probably Antoine -- personally, I always thought the character too over the top to be believable, even as comic relief. And, of course, the daily syndicated series has long had low credibility with Sonic fans -- at least, the ones who have spoken up on this board. Its vision of Mobius was so far out of character that it was simply repudiated. One or two guest characters may have registered, but overall it feels like it's taking place on another planet. I guess we should count our blessings. I'd forgotten that once upon a time Filmation stuff was considered "best" because nobody else was cranking anything out. Nowadays Disney and Warner Bros. have high-quality product all over the dial, and there's a host of innovative series out there, from "Reboot" to MTV's excellent adaptation of "The Maxx." BTW, that's a nice phrase, "the continuity." > As for stuff "ending up on the cutting room floor", as it were, you'd be > amazed at how many bits haven't been used in every story or changed because > of one reason or another. In fact, it's only recently that we're able to > develop the stories we can BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ANY ANIMATED SERIES to lead > the cart. I fully believe after working on the KNUCKLES mini-series recently > that if this were the situation when we did the PRINCESS SALLY mini-series, > at the very least the villain and the mission would have been allowed as > originally intended. I can't say more in case we can do that story in the > future. > You confirmed my suspicion that the changes in the Princess Sally miniseries -- changes that were only hinted at in the notice in the Sonic-grams of Sonic #21 -- were quite substantial. "The villian and the mission"! No wonder the cover art changed so drastically. Hope you get a chance to do your original story. Not that there was a serious problem with the story line that finally emerged, but I guess I have a general curiosity about "what might have been." Looking forward to FINALLY getting a chance to read #36 this weekend: ================================================================ || ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen || |\__-- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu || | / __ _ ||Sonic: "Whoa, you're not going to || //\ / \ /__ || use the L-word, are you?" || | o| 0|__ --_ ||Tails: "Well...." || \\____-- __ \ ___ - ||Sonic: "Then I will...I love you, || (@@ __/ / /_ || little bro." || -_____--- --_ ||AoStH: "Tails' New Home" ================================================================ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 20:43:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA15523 for sonic-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 19:59:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA15517 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 19:58:57 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA05874; Thu, 2 May 1996 19:58:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 19:58:27 -0400 Message-ID: <960502195825_105403194@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: BAUERLE@engr.erie.ge.com, sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Ron B., You definitely made some serious points in that letter of yours. Here's some comments that I'd like to make... >That rotten UPC symbol covered up part of Sally's cute tush!!! Doesn't that just make you MAD?! >I didn't quite get the discussion re. "The void" vs. "The zone of silence"... Me neither! I read that part OVER and OVER and OVER... what's with it? I think... um... who wrote it... AAAAA!!! I LOST MY #36!!! Oh, man... Well, although you made many other too true comments about the story, I just have to say that basically I agree with you an all of them. One thing that I'd like to add... whoever was writing this one (wish I knew) must've either been trying to write a quickie to take up an issue or was up at one o'clock in the morning with no coffee and didn't know what the heck they were doing. Can't wait 'till #37, tho.... SUPER STH@aol.com "Who needs luck when you've got talent?!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 21:44:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA19243 for sonic-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:55:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com (emout19.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.45]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA19232 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:55:52 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA20296 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:55:21 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 20:55:21 -0400 Message-ID: <960502205521_483039799@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net The difference between the zone and the void is a significant one. If it was soooo easy to come and go from THE VOID, as we witnessed SONIC and ROBOTNIK do in SONIC #30, then it stood to reason that King Acorn should have been rescued a loooong time ago. Therefore.... THE VOID was just another zone where it was believed King Acorn was located, but actually as Rotor made clear, the King was really in the ZONE OF SILENCE. Clear? Ken From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 22:01:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA19845 for sonic-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:08:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA19840 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:08:14 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA11103 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:07:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 21:07:43 -0400 Message-ID: <960502210742_483050906@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >The bottom of page 8 was a bit confusing; are we to infer that Robotnik kept that "photon cannon" going from the time of King Acorn's imprisonment until just now?< The confusion for this stems from the drawing. Robotnik should have been wearing his normal uniform, not his warlord uniform, indicating the breach was a recent event. >I'll leave comment on the ID of the masked rider to others, and/or until after another issue or two :^) Though it _does_ conflict with the show...< Sorry about that, but how do you know the show got it right, hmmm? Actually, we never received scripts to every episode and sad to say, the second season of SONIC was never shown on TV in my neck of the woods. Incidentally, my son took me to task about the inconsistencies. However, by that time, SEGA had already approved the story. >Not sure why Dimitri had to hook up _sails_ to the island - didn't he have enough power to propel it himself?< Sure he did, but he was being a bad guy at this time, see? And you can't establish enslavement if HE does the work, can you? >How could fire ants chew through the wall in so short a time? (hours?) This seemed a bit deus ex machina to me... Also that with all that power, Dimitri could apparently be crushed to death by the collapse of the tower (and it wasn't clear that the skull-like (shades of The Phantom?) Mt. Fate was created by its collapse).< This was a case of limited space and a lot of material to cover. We felt any cracks could be explained by the fans using their imaginations. Ken From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 22:12:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA20688 for sonic-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:25:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from charlie.acc.iit.edu (charlie.acc.iit.edu [198.87.195.20]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA20680 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:25:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elof.acc.iit.edu by charlie.acc.iit.edu via SMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/940406.SGI) for id UAA10359; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:26:33 -0500 Received: by elof.acc.iit.edu (NX5.67d/NX3.0S) id AA05451; Thu, 2 May 96 20:25:28 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 May 96 20:25:28 -0500 From: Victor Ramirez Message-Id: <9605030125.AA05451@elof.acc.iit.edu> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: SONIC 37 PREVIEW JPEG AVAILABLE Cc: nowlola@elof.acc.iit.edu, ramivic@elof.acc.iit.edu Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: JPEG ALERT! The Sonic Issue #37 preview jpeg will be available at the rat.org site Sonic JPEG filename: sncvr37a.jpg http://rat.org/pub/sonic/images/comic/sncvr37a.jpg This is the cover that I (plus a zillion of you) wanted Archie to make into a poster. Now if the can do Sonic #29 (snccvr29.jpg) and Sonic #37 into posters - that will be some cool hanging material!! Enjoy! -- Victor A. Ramirez ramivic@elof.acc.iit.edu Computer Graphics Technician ramivic@aol.com Chicago Public Schools http://mithral.iit.edu:8080/~ramivic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 22:33:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA20592 for sonic-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:23:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA20570 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:23:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.ge.com (ns.ge.com [192.35.39.24]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id VAA09810 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:23:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from engr.erie.ge.com ([3.14.4.3]) by ns.ge.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA11684 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:23:13 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 21:23:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Ron Bauerle To: SUPERSTH@aol.com CC: sonic@bort.mv.net, BAUERLE@engr.erie.ge.com Message-Id: <960502212300.2c62@engr.erie.ge.com> Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >>That rotten UPC symbol covered up part of Sally's cute tush!!! >Doesn't that just make you MAD?! Yup :^( >>I didn't quite get the discussion re. "The void" vs. "The zone of >>silence"... >Me neither! I read that part OVER and OVER and OVER... what's with it? >I think... um... who wrote it... AAAAA!!! I LOST MY #36!!! Oh, man... Uh-oh... >Well, although you made many other too true comments about the story, >I just have to say that basically I agree with you an all of them. One thing >that I'd like to add... whoever was writing this one (wish I knew) must've >either been trying to write a quickie to take up an issue or was up at >one o'clock in the morning with no coffee and didn't know what the heck >they were doing. Er, I don't know that I'd go _that_ far, especially since the writer, Ken Penders, _does_ get the list you know (or maybe you didn't...) >Can't wait 'till #37, tho.... Heh! Kind of a non sequitur, but I agree :^) And that might be a way to treat any "weaknesses" (there's probably a better term) in #36: they're necessary to the set-up of a multi-part epic... RDB From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 00:48:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id AAA17275 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:11:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id AAA17237 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:11:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.ge.com (ns.ge.com [192.35.39.24]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id WAA21273 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:43:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from engr.erie.ge.com ([3.14.4.3]) by ns.ge.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA19400 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:43:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 22:43:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Ron Bauerle To: "ENGR::BAUERLE"@engr.erie.ge.com CC: sonic@bort.mv.net, aa2043@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu, nefaria@aol.com, ray.rooney@dscmail.com, rune@delphi.com, BAUERLE@engr.erie.ge.com Message-Id: <960502224307.2c62@engr.erie.ge.com> Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net One more thing I noticed, and I'll drop in another form feed for those who haven't read it yet: The masked rider is almost always drawn with _four_ fingers, yet Sally, like the rest of the furries, only has _three_... RDB From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 00:58:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id AAA13553 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:05:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id AAA13463 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:05:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail (canal.iaw.on.ca [204.225.37.33]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id XAA24487 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 23:03:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nb1-7.iaw.on.ca by mail with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0uFB93-000bCEC; Thu, 2 May 96 23:03 EDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 May 96 23:03 EDT X-Sender: butcher@iaw.on.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: butcher@iaw.on.ca (Paul Lapensee) Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >The difference between the zone and the void is a significant one. If it was >soooo easy to come and go from THE VOID, as we witnessed SONIC and ROBOTNIK >do in SONIC #30, then it stood to reason that King Acorn should have been >rescued a loooong time ago. > >Therefore.... > >THE VOID was just another zone where it was believed King Acorn was located, >but actually as Rotor made clear, the King was really in the ZONE OF SILENCE. > >Clear? > >Ken > NO!!!! Sonic may have be able to come and leave as he pleased, because of his speed. The King and Nagus have been in the Void too long if they leave the will change into cristal. CLEAR! Watch the Sonic TV show will ya!. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 01:00:03 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id AAA19230 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:20:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id AAA19109 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bigboote.WPI.EDU (root@bigboote.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id WAA15704 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:04:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from garden.WPI.EDU (tedp@garden.WPI.EDU [130.215.8.145]) by bigboote.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA29376; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:04:43 -0400 From: Theodore Patri Perrotti Received: (from tedp@localhost) by garden.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.8.Alpha.1) id WAA20061; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:04:43 -0400 Message-Id: <199605030204.WAA20061@garden.WPI.EDU> Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 22:04:42 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tedp@WPI.EDU (Theodore Patri Perrotti) In-Reply-To: <960502195825_105403194@emout10.mail.aol.com> from "SUPERSTH@aol.com" at May 2, 96 07:58:27 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > Well, although you made many other too true comments about the story, > I just have to say that basically I agree with you an all of them. One thing > that I'd like to add... whoever was writing this one (wish I knew) must've > either been trying to write a quickie to take up an issue or was up at > one o'clock in the morning with no coffee and didn't know what the heck > they were doing. Can't wait 'till #37, tho.... > I don't know. I kind of liked #36 myself. I never expected the knight to turn out to be King Acorn! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) perrottit.mbr@asme.org Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester Polytechnic Institute ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 01:16:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id AAA17842 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:15:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id AAA17822 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:15:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.ge.com (ns.ge.com [192.35.39.24]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id WAA18717 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:25:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from engr.erie.ge.com ([3.14.4.3]) by ns.ge.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA17810 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 22:25:38 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 22:25:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Ron Bauerle To: sonic@bort.mv.net CC: aa2043@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu, nefaria@aol.com, ray.rooney@dscmail.com, rune@delphi.com, BAUERLE@engr.erie.ge.com Message-Id: <960502222527.2c62@engr.erie.ge.com> Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >From: KenP7672@aol.com >>The bottom of page 8 was a bit confusing; are we to infer that Robotnik >>kept that "photon cannon" going from the time of King Acorn's imprisonment >>until just now? >The confusion for this stems from the drawing. Robotnik should have been >wearing his normal uniform, not his warlord uniform, indicating the breach >was a recent event. Ah; it didn't help that his arm was shown as normal in the bottom four panels too, and even his hand was flesh-colored in the bottom left panel... Even if it _had_ been drawn properly, a blurb in the narrative along the lines of "and everything was quiet until the other day when..." would have helped, but I guess that's just 20-20 hindsight... >>I'll leave comment on the ID of the masked rider to others, and/or until >>after another issue or two :^) Though it _does_ conflict with the show... >Sorry about that, but how do you know the show got it right, hmmm? I'll let Dan Drazen invoke his canonization argument here :^) >Actually, we never received scripts to every episode and sad to say, the >second season of SONIC was never shown on TV in my neck of the woods. >Incidentally, my son took me to task about the inconsistencies. How, if he didn't see them either? >However, by that time, SEGA had already approved the story. Well, I could make you a copy of the second season if you want it for future reference... :^) >>Not sure why Dimitri had to hook up _sails_ to the island - didn't he have >>enough power to propel it himself? >Sure he did, but he was being a bad guy at this time, see? And you can't >establish enslavement if HE does the work, can you? Oh, okay :^) >>How could fire ants chew through the wall in so short a time? (hours?) >>This seemed a bit deus ex machina to me... Also that with all that power, >>Dimitri could apparently be crushed to death by the collapse of the tower >>(and it wasn't clear that the skull-like (shades of The Phantom?) Mt. Fate >>was created by its collapse). >This was a case of limited space and a lot of material to cover. We felt >any cracks could be explained by the fans using their imaginations. ^^^^^^ In the wall, or the plot? :^) (Sorry, couldn't resist...) Keep up the good work! Ron From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 07:44:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id HAA20160 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 07:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id HAA20141 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 07:28:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.com (en.com [204.89.181.1]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id GAA19696 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 06:34:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.en.com (mighty@mighty.en.net [206.148.90.46]) by en.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id GAA17083 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 06:42:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605031042.GAA17083@en.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Doug LoConti" To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 18:44:17 +0000 Subject: HEY! Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net on the following link on rat's page: http://rat.org/pub/sonic/images/other/sonami_g.jpg THere is an image, mostly of Sonic and Tails. It looks Japaneese. What is this? How can I get ahold of this new cartoon? And MOST IMPORTANTLY, is it english dubbed?!? :) -MiGHTY From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 07:59:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id HAA19780 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 07:21:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com (emout19.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.45]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA19772 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 07:21:38 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA02450 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Fri, 3 May 1996 07:21:07 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 07:21:07 -0400 Message-ID: <960503072107_483448902@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Sonic may have be able to come and leave as he pleased, because of his speed. The King and Nagus have been in the Void too long if they leave the will change into cristal. CLEAR! Watch the Sonic TV show will ya!.< In fact, I was writing according to the ABC SATURDAY MORNING SERIES BIBLE, which clearly states that the King was trapped in the ZONE OF SILENCE, which we referred to in issue #24. I can't help it if they changed the name during the second season. Besides, SONIC may be fast, but he can't switch zones all on his lonesome. At the very least, he needs to collect some rings. Ken From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 08:06:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id HAA19822 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 07:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id HAA19809 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 07:22:35 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id HAA24954 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 07:16:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA25164 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Fri, 3 May 1996 07:16:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 07:16:01 -0400 Message-ID: <960503071600_483447242@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Er, I don't know that I'd go _that_ far, especially since the writer, Ken Penders, _does_ get the list you know (or maybe you didn't...)< On the contrary, please feel free to express any and all opinions. This way we know what you really liked and disliked about the stories. As for continuity, as I said, though we try, there may be some discrepencies. I suggest you borrow a leaf from the TREK Fan's Guidebook. After all, they've already spent 30 years trying to fill in the blanks. :-) Ken From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 08:13:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id HAA20167 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 07:28:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id HAA20145 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 07:28:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.com (en.com [204.89.181.1]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id GAA20383 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 06:42:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.en.com (mighty@mighty.en.net [206.148.90.46]) by en.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id GAA18633 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 06:50:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605031050.GAA18633@en.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Doug LoConti" To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 18:52:14 +0000 Subject: things Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Well, first of, this is off-topic but IMPORTANT, so read on: Someone sent me 40+disks to copy Sonic PC for them. I can't remember who! :( I lost the adress, (darn mom's pop-cleaning,) but i DO know they were from germany. Guy, are you out there?!? :) I'm copying them now that i FINALLY have time, (sad but TRA-UE!) Later all. Oh yeah! Expect to see a sweet character page up by this weekend!!! :) It's looking very sweet. later all. -MiGHTY From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 09:19:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id IAA26964 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 08:57:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail (canal.iaw.on.ca [204.225.37.33]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA26958 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 08:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nb1-10.iaw.on.ca by mail with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0uFKQY-000bCBC; Fri, 3 May 96 08:57 EDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 May 96 08:57 EDT X-Sender: butcher@iaw.on.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: butcher@iaw.on.ca (Paul Lapensee) Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >>Sonic may have be able to come and leave as he pleased, because of his >speed. >The King and Nagus have been in the Void too long if they leave the will >change >into cristal. CLEAR! > >Watch the Sonic TV show will ya!.< > >In fact, I was writing according to the ABC SATURDAY MORNING SERIES BIBLE, >which clearly states that the King was trapped in the ZONE OF SILENCE, which >we referred to in issue #24. I can't help it if they changed the name during >the second season. > >Besides, SONIC may be fast, but he can't switch zones all on his lonesome. At >the very least, he needs to collect some rings. > >Ken > I wish they would stick with one idea and stop changing the facts around. You are right about the power ring through. But one at a time is all he used in the TV show. He did use three to protect him self from the roboticizer once. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 11:25:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA08347 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 10:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bigboote.WPI.EDU (root@bigboote.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id KAA08337 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 10:57:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wpi.WPI.EDU (tedp@wpi.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.6]) by bigboote.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA03106 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 10:57:43 -0400 From: Theodore Patri Perrotti Received: (from tedp@localhost) by wpi.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.8.Alpha.1) id KAA05659 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Fri, 3 May 1996 10:57:42 -0400 Message-Id: <199605031457.KAA05659@wpi.WPI.EDU> Subject: test To: sonic@bort.mv.net (sonic) Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 10:57:42 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net This is a test. I seem to be having trouble posting to the list. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) perrottit.mbr@asme.org Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester Polytechnic Institute ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 12:24:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA12214 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:48:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com (emout19.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.45]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA12206 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:48:32 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA05140 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:48:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 11:48:01 -0400 Message-ID: <960503114759_105860599@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Ron, If you can make a copy of second season episodes, I would be most indebted to you, as I do make the effort to acquire any and all SONIC material in order to keep the OFFICIAL continuity straight. Thanks. Ken From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 12:32:29 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA12219 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA12213 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:48:34 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA10197 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:48:04 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 11:48:04 -0400 Message-ID: <960503114802_105860651@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >One more thing I noticed, and I'll drop in another form feed for those who haven't read it yet: The masked rider is almost always drawn with _four_ fingers, yet Sally, like the rest of the furries, only has _three_...< How do you Sally's MOTHER doesn't have just three fingers, eh? Something to think about here. Ken From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 12:47:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA10582 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.interserv.com (uhura.interserv.net [165.121.2.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA29395 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 09:31:55 -0400 (EDT) From: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us Received: from 198.189.28.50 (ppp20.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US) by relay.interserv.com with SMTP id AA20627 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for sonic@bort.mv.net); Fri, 3 May 1996 06:31:39 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 06:31:39 -0700 Message-Id: <199605031331.AA20627@relay.interserv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: SONIC 37 PREVIEW JPEG AVAILABLE To: sonic@bort.mv.net In-Reply-To: <9605030125.AA05451@elof.acc.iit.edu> X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net That Would be cool! But not just those, howbout all the masterpieces Spaziante has done so far? -Chris F. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 13:09:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id MAA15000 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 12:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca [206.75.222.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA14992 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 12:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA08160; Fri, 3 May 1996 10:15:10 -0600 Received: by ender.cuug.ab.ca (V1.17-beta.31{ask@castrov.UUCP/10}/Amiga) id ; Fri, 3 May 96 10:09:14 MDT Received: by sago.cuc.ab.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1(sago-1.3)) id AA24372; Fri, 3 May 96 09:22:10 MDT Date: Fri, 3 May 96 09:22:10 MDT Message-Id: <9605031522.AA24372@sago.cuc.ab.ca> From: uug@sago.cuc.ab.ca (William Graham) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Ron Bauerle writes: > How could fire ants chew through the wall in so short a time? (hours?) > This seemed a bit deus ex machina to me... Not at all. Some ants can strip a forest bare of anything green that lies in their path in a matter of hours; it's not unreasonable that they can disassemble a wall in short order. To make a computer analogy, ants work like parallel processors; each one is fairly weak by itself, but because there are so many of them working as a coordinated unit, they have a great combined power. I find it curious that a whole 1/3 page was devoted to the fire ants in part one of "A Sense of History" in #34, and one ant made a cameo appearance on a leaf in part two. The ants' world, the Mobian soil, was ripped apart when the Floating Island rose into the air; I'd expect now they have a vested interest in seeing it, and their various ant colonies, re-united. So I wouldn't be surprised if they don't play a pivotal role in the Knuckles' mini-series. And then in part three, a very similar scene (p. 5) with Mount Fate collapsing, and Edmund & co. escaping (instead of the ants), just has to make me wonder... Another thing that struck my funny bone was Knuckles snapping his... knuckles? I figure he must have fingers inside those mittens he wears, like all the other echidnas we see. > Also that with all that power, Dimitri could apparently be crushed to > death by the collapse of the tower (and it wasn't clear that the skull-like > (shades of The Phantom?) Mt. Fate was created by its collapse). That was clear enough to me. But why would Mt. Fate be laughing at Knuckles in the final panel of part 3? Is somebody or something trapped within Mt. Fate? Is it Dimitri, biding his time for the chance to put an end to the long line of Guardians of the Floating Island? > Either this means Mobius is a future Earth,[...] or it was influenced by > Earth culture/settlers, or [...] My take on it is that Mobius is an alternate, present-day Earth. Issues raised by having a villain who despoils the planet, destroys forests and wildlife, and enslaves the surviving population like robots (sounds like some jobs I've had) in a technological dystopia, also apply to our world. And then you have a small group of individuals, with Sonic at their helm, who reject that future and who know they can change it. > I still think the decision to dismantle their technological society was a > bit of an overreaction, but I'll accept it for the story's sake... It shows that Echidna society were still masters of their own fate, and they had the courage to correct a major mistake they realized they had made. > At least the UPC symbol will only cover part of her boots this time... Odd how some of the early issues didn't have the UPC barcode on the cover. I'm glad my Sonic mini-series #3 doesn't have it -- that Scott Shaw! cover has to be an all-time classic! - William Graham - a net.freedom-fighter for a free Mobius! - From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 13:53:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA19634 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 13:11:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.ge.com (ns.ge.com [192.35.39.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id NAA19606 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 13:10:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from engr.erie.ge.com ([3.14.4.3]) by ns.ge.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA16121 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 13:10:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 13:10:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Ron Bauerle To: sonic@bort.mv.net CC: aa2043@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu, nefaria@aol.com, ray.rooney@dscmail.com, rune@delphi.com, BAUERLE@engr.erie.ge.com Message-Id: <960503131037.3c51@engr.erie.ge.com> Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >From: KenP7672@aol.com >>One more thing I noticed, and I'll drop in another form feed for those who >>haven't read it yet: >>The masked rider is almost always drawn with _four_ fingers, yet Sally, >>like the rest of the furries, only has _three_... >How do you [know] Sally's MOTHER doesn't have just three fingers, eh? >Something to think about here. I did, but I didn't want to start _that_ debate again... :^) And I'll bet the TV show had him with three... :^) Ron From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 13:59:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA19769 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 13:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns2.ac.edu ([134.224.1.29]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA19763 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 13:13:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jaguar.ac.edu by ns2.ac.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15188; Fri, 3 May 96 13:19:00 EDT Received: by jaguar.ac.edu (wcGATE v4) id 33589W Fri, 3 May 1996 17:12:00 GMT From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) Subject: TV vs. Comics-- a aminor point... Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 17:07:36 GMT Message-Id: <96050313120055474@jaguar.ac.edu> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Well, guys, IMHO, the satAM series and the comics are TWO DIFFERENT CONTINUITIES. There's little or no way to reconcile the two... especially since the comics goes through a standalone work to drawing from the weekday series to drawing (thank heaven) inages and ideas fro, the satAM one. But the three venues are separate and equal. (Well, separate and equal except for the often hideous weekday series.) Acorn may well be trapped in the Crystal Void in the SatAM show, but that's no guarantee that he's there in the comic. Just as Ms. Rabbot appeared originally in the comic but didn't appear in the show until the ABC SatAM show was developed. All separate, see? Not requiring desparate attemps to lock in canon. Actually, we have THREE canons-- the weekday show, the ABC SatAm show, and the comic (which seems pretty much to draw from aspects of both). This boy's gonna treat each canon as separate. Besides, in "Night of 1000 Sonics" we know that there are LOTS of variances... (I dealt with that somewhat in The Barbarian) So SatAM is best regarded on a track very close to the Comic track, but not identical. a rather opinionated rob From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 14:23:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA19437 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 13:09:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ds1.gl.umbc.edu (root@ds1.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.3.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA19432 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 13:09:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rpa15.gl.umbc.edu (cmugg1@rpa15.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.61.105]) by ds1.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA02673 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 13:09:08 -0400 Received: (cmugg1@localhost) by rpa15.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA02524; Fri, 3 May 1996 13:09:06 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 13:09:05 -0400 (EDT) From: mugg charles To: sonic@bort.mv.net cc: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: HEY! In-Reply-To: <199605031042.GAA17083@en.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Mon, 3 May 1999, Doug LoConti wrote: > on the following link on rat's page: > > http://rat.org/pub/sonic/images/other/sonami_g.jpg Ok, this is the entire scanned page from Diehard's March issue, when they reviewed Volume One of Sonic the Hegdehog Anime. > THere is an image, mostly of Sonic and Tails. It looks Japaneese. > What is this? How can I get ahold of this new cartoon? And MOST > IMPORTANTLY, is it english dubbed?!? :) Yes it is Japanese, its the Sonic Anime. As for right now, you can't get ahold of it unless you live in Japan. It is still rental-only right now, but as of May 31st, Sega Enterprises will put the videos (of which there are two) up for sale, of course, this is only in Japan. There are no plans yet for it to be released in the states. Why on Earth would you want this dubbed?!!? Sub-titling is definately the way the to go. Leave the original dialogue as it is, any anime/manga fanatic will tell you that dubbed anime is absolutely horrific, Sonic is no exception to this rule. > -MiGHTY > Kiken signing off. ASOBI WA...OWARI DA! Sayounara. This message from the Baltimore Ronin, homepage at: http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~cmugg1 Ikuze! /---/ |\ /\ "To live a life of power, / / | \ / \ you must have faith in what you / / | / / \ believe, even if others tell you ------- |/ /------\ you are wrong; / __ |\ __|__ The first step to living a life of / | | | \ | | | power is to find courage, you must / | _| | / |__|__| be prepared to reach beyond the / |_____| |/ | boundaries of time itself; | / \ And to do that, all you need is the will to take that very first step." Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 14:53:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id OAA25969 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 14:23:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from saul4.u.washington.edu (lazuli@saul4.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA25962 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 14:23:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by saul4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25640; Fri, 3 May 96 11:22:57 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 11:22:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Michael Sloniker To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: HEY! In-Reply-To: <199605031042.GAA17083@en.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Mon, 3 May 1999, Doug LoConti wrote: > on the following link on rat's page: > > http://rat.org/pub/sonic/images/other/sonami_g.jpg > > THere is an image, mostly of Sonic and Tails. It looks Japaneese. > What is this? How can I get ahold of this new cartoon? And MOST > IMPORTANTLY, is it english dubbed?!? :) To quote from the JPG itself (a scan from a magazine by the look of it): -Sonic has made his Japanese animated debut, to remind us once again how -much American cartoons suck. The U.S. Sonic Saturday morning cartoon is -long gone (I hope), [Editorial comment: the opinions of this reviewer do not necessarily reflect the views of the management of this email address.] -but it would definitely still be around today if it was as good as its -Japanese counterpart. The Japanese Sonic is a rental-only OVA, (the -first of hopefully many) [For those of you not up on anime terminology, OVA = Original Video Animation, i.e. something released directly to video instead of TV or a theater.] -so the animation is much cleaner than you could ever expect from a TV -show, but the characters' on-screen presence is what makes this Sonic so -cool. It's like playing the game, but in anime form. Or something. -Since it's only 27 minutes (part 1 of...?), there's not too much to say -about Sonic. Sonic and Tails are out to save the president, who's been -kidnapped by arch-villain Dr. Eggman (Robotnik in the US version). So, -they run off to Eggworld, fight some minor enemies, fight a boss, meet -Knuckles, and then Volume 1's over. It doesn't sound like much, but it's -a hell of a trip, and the pace is as fast as Sonic himself. Though Sonic -sounds a bit gruff, the voice actors are pretty cool, and the new -character, Sarah (the president's daughter), is a nice addition to the -cast. -Slim though the possibility is, Sega might one day bring the series here, -but until then, enjoy some shots of what a video game-based cartoon -should be..." BTW, the JPG is very good. Anyone know which magazine it's from? ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer lazuli@u.washington.edu fnord fnord fnord fnord fnord fnord fnord fnord fnord truth fnord fnord fnord From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 16:01:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA00584 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 15:16:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mhv.net (root@csbh.mhv.net [199.0.0.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA00574 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 15:16:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aslan.com by mhv.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA09262; Fri, 3 May 1996 15:18:12 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 May 96 15:12:55 From: R_Kid@aslan.com (R Kid) Organization: Aslan Control Technologies,Inc. Subject: Re: Requests to FOX (was: Re: To: tedp@WPI.EDU, sonic@bort.mv.net Message-Id: <1790388.ensmtp@aslan.com> Priority: normal X-Mailer: ExpressNet/SMTP v1.1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hmmm... Lemme see... I'm not exactly sure if this is it, but you can try mailing foxkids@metawire.com At least, that's the address I got from the web page. "The Terror That Hacks in the Night" Geson Hatchett/Racewing Kid The 3rd Fastest Thing Alive! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season 3 Alpha-One Project S.E.K.T.O.R. Antoine Miniseries! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- What is this stuff? Find out in the Racewing Productions:Sonic Division webpage coming this summer ( I hope). Quote o' the day: Hm... wonder what the Happy meal toys would look like for this... -me, after seeing the movie "Predator" Racewing r_kid@aslan.com Sonikode: Breezie++! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 16:24:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA01664 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 15:36:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com (emout18.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.44]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA01658 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 15:36:21 -0400 (EDT) From: DGonterman@aol.com Received: by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA15413 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Fri, 3 May 1996 15:35:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 15:35:50 -0400 Message-ID: <960503153549_389712211@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: HEY! Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net In a message dated 96-05-03 07:45:20 EDT, you write: >on the following link on rat's page: > >http://rat.org/pub/sonic/images/other/sonami_g.jpg > > >THere is an image, mostly of Sonic and Tails. It looks Japaneese. >What is this? How can I get ahold of this new cartoon? And MOST >IMPORTANTLY, is it english dubbed?!? :) > >-MiGHTY It's something I scanned from a GAMEFAN MAG. I thought you'd like it now that DIC ain't doing Sonic NO MORE!!! David. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 16:43:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA02147 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 15:44:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tsb.weschke.com (foxfire@tsb.weschke.com [204.91.224.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id PAA02142 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 15:44:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from foxfire@localhost) by tsb.weschke.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id PAA19412; Fri, 3 May 1996 15:44:46 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 15:44:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Forsyth To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Thu, 2 May 1996, Paul Lapensee wrote: > >The difference between the zone and the void is a significant one. If it was > >soooo easy to come and go from THE VOID, as we witnessed SONIC and ROBOTNIK > >do in SONIC #30, then it stood to reason that King Acorn should have been > >rescued a loooong time ago. > > > >Therefore.... > > > >THE VOID was just another zone where it was believed King Acorn was located, > >but actually as Rotor made clear, the King was really in the ZONE OF SILENCE. > > > >Clear? > > > >Ken > > > NO!!!! > Sonic may have be able to come and leave as he pleased, because of his speed. > The King and Nagus have been in the Void too long if they leave the will change > into cristal. CLEAR! > > Watch the Sonic TV show will ya!. > > Um--point here. The comics, as Ken has pointed out, are *approved* by SEGA, the makers of the game. Could the show make the same claim? Much as some may hate to admit it, the comic book, by most definitions can be considered 'canon', though there are some excellent fanfics, and the few TV eps I did get to see were great as well. This argument is kinda similar to people arguing over Diane Duane's Rihannsu as compared to 'canon' Romulans. ;-) BTW, where do you get off telling the *writer* of the comic what he can and can't do in his own series? Chris Forsyth From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 17:54:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA11563 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 17:15:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.usa.net (postoffice.usa.net [192.156.196.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id RAA11558 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 17:15:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Zero.usa.net (port8.den1-annex.usa.net [165.212.158.108]) by mail.usa.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id PAA24042 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 15:15:52 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3113DE0A.438A@usa.net> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 15:13:30 -0700 From: Jim Graba X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: PC Version of Sonic the Hedgehog Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hey everybody! While looking at an on-line catalog, I came across a PC version of Sonic the Hedgehog AND a screen saver! Here's the descriptions: SKU: 49921 Title: SONIC W95! REL 06/14/96 RTL UPC: 010086850154 Category Format Price -------------------------- ENT W95 $ 41 Description: Everyone's favorite Hedgehog(and one of the worlds best sell ing characters) is now on the PC. Sonic battles Dr. Robotnik latest evil creation, Metal Sonic, in a race to save the world. Sonic Embarks on an important mission: rescue his friends Princess Sally and retrieve the Time Stones before Robotnik can. REQ: Windows 95, Pentium processor, 60mhz, 8mb ram, SVGA 256 color graphics, double speed CDROM drive, 8mb hard disk space, 16 bit audio, sound card, keyboard, gamepad, joystick or mouse. SKU: 49923 Title: SONIC SCREEN SAVER W95! REL 0 UPC: 010086850291 Category Format Price -------------------------- SSV W95 $ 23 Description: CDR Screen Saver Starring Sega's beloved mascot and hero... Sonic The Hedge Hog. Sonic the Hedgehog, in all his fun and glory, is now a screensaver for your PC. All the attitude that makes Sonic the coolest hedgehog ever is now available to entertain you whenever your screen needs saving. sys req:Windows 95, Pentium processor, 60mhz, 8mb ram, SVGA 256 color graphics, double speed CDROM drive, 8mb hard disk space, 16bit audio, sound card, keyboard, gamepad, joystick or mouse SONIC SCREEN SAVER CDROM FOR WINDOWS Oh yes: the sight is http://www.unitedcdrom.com Kyle Graba, lurker jgraba@usa.net From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 20:19:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA24674 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 19:59:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id TAA24665 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 19:58:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id TAA29691 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 19:58:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ppp1.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp1.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.31]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA23376 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 17:01:08 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 17:01:08 -0700 Message-Id: <199605040001.RAA23376@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: test Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 10:57 AM 5/3/96 -0400, you wrote: >This is a test. I seem to be having trouble posting to the list. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >"It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog > >Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) > perrottit.mbr@asme.org > >Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester >Polytechnic Institute >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Looks fine to me. -Chris F. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 20:34:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA24609 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 19:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id TAA24604 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 19:57:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ppp1.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp1.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.31]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA23384 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 17:01:11 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 17:01:11 -0700 Message-Id: <199605040001.RAA23384@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: HEY! Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 11:22 AM 5/3/96 -0700, you wrote: >On Mon, 3 May 1999, Doug LoConti wrote: > >> on the following link on rat's page: >> >> http://rat.org/pub/sonic/images/other/sonami_g.jpg >> >> THere is an image, mostly of Sonic and Tails. It looks Japaneese. >> What is this? How can I get ahold of this new cartoon? And MOST >> IMPORTANTLY, is it english dubbed?!? :) > >To quote from the JPG itself (a scan from a magazine by the look of it): > >-Sonic has made his Japanese animated debut, to remind us once again how >-much American cartoons suck. The U.S. Sonic Saturday morning cartoon is >-long gone (I hope), > >[Editorial comment: the opinions of this reviewer do not necessarily >reflect the views of the management of this email address.] > >-but it would definitely still be around today if it was as good as its >-Japanese counterpart. The Japanese Sonic is a rental-only OVA, (the >-first of hopefully many) > >[For those of you not up on anime terminology, OVA = Original Video >Animation, i.e. something released directly to video instead of TV or a >theater.] > >-so the animation is much cleaner than you could ever expect from a TV >-show, but the characters' on-screen presence is what makes this Sonic so >-cool. It's like playing the game, but in anime form. Or something. > >-Since it's only 27 minutes (part 1 of...?), there's not too much to say >-about Sonic. Sonic and Tails are out to save the president, who's been >-kidnapped by arch-villain Dr. Eggman (Robotnik in the US version). So, >-they run off to Eggworld, fight some minor enemies, fight a boss, meet >-Knuckles, and then Volume 1's over. It doesn't sound like much, but it's >-a hell of a trip, and the pace is as fast as Sonic himself. Though Sonic >-sounds a bit gruff, the voice actors are pretty cool, and the new >-character, Sarah (the president's daughter), is a nice addition to the >-cast. > >-Slim though the possibility is, Sega might one day bring the series here, >-but until then, enjoy some shots of what a video game-based cartoon >-should be..." > >BTW, the JPG is very good. Anyone know which magazine it's from? > > ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad > L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer > lazuli@u.washington.edu > >fnord fnord fnord fnord fnord fnord fnord fnord fnord truth fnord fnord fnord > Hmmmm. I wonder where you got that from..... -Chris F. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 22:32:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA04305 for sonic-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 22:14:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (mmdf@vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA04297 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 22:14:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm1-ip77.vivanet.com by vivanet.vivanet.com id aa24726; 3 May 96 22:16 EDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960504021403.00687b90@mail.vivanet.com> X-Sender: mpenna@mail.vivanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 22:14:03 -0400 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: Chat session Saturday Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hi, everybody! This is just a reminder about the chat session that will be held this Saturday night. (And every Saturday night.) If you still haven't visited the chat information pages, head over to http://rat.org/sonic/irc on the World Wide Web. The time it will start is at 8PM Eastern time. (I will be there this week, I promise!) So, I hope to see you there! ******************************************************************** * * "Once again we meet to exchange * * -=Matt Penna=- * valuable tangibles. * * E mail: mpenna@vivanet.com * Isn't this fun?!" * * Home Page Under Construction * -The Trademaster, * * * Star Control II * ******************************************************************** * StH JJ1 Wks+++ AdS->+ Son+++i Sal+++^ Tal+++it Bun++ Rot++ Ant~ * * UnC++ Bks++ Rbk--/++ Pck--/+++ Snv~ Knu++ P++ Da $++++ Ay79 GM * ******************************************************************** From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 4 01:00:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id AAA08881 for sonic-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 00:36:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id AAA08862 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 00:36:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.com (en.com [204.89.181.1]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id AAA07566 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 00:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.en.com (mighty.en.net [206.148.90.46]) by en.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id AAA28320 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 00:18:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605040418.AAA28320@en.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Doug LoConti" To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:20:35 +0000 Subject: Re: PC Version of Sonic the Hedgehog Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > Hey everybody! > While looking at an on-line catalog, I came across a PC version of Sonic the > Hedgehog AND a screen saver! Here's the descriptions: > > SKU: 49921 > Title: SONIC W95! REL 06/14/96 RTL > UPC: 010086850154 > > Category Format Price > -------------------------- > ENT W95 $ 41 > > Description: Everyone's favorite Hedgehog(and one of the worlds best sell ing characters) > is now on the PC. Sonic battles Dr. > Robotnik latest evil creation, Metal Sonic, in a race to save the world. Sonic Embarks on > an important mission: rescue his friends > Princess Sally and retrieve the Time Stones before Robotnik can. REQ: Windows 95, Pentium > processor, 60mhz, 8mb ram, SVGA > 256 color graphics, double speed CDROM drive, 8mb hard disk space, 16 bit audio, sound > card, keyboard, gamepad, joystick or > mouse. this was the game I was TELLING you people about! I have this game. ;) Oh well... the screensaver is another story. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 4 01:30:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id BAA13149 for sonic-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 01:16:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server.northernnet.com ([206.24.45.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA13142 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 01:16:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME ([206.24.63.54]) by server.northernnet.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA16635 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 00:17:50 -0500 Message-ID: <318B0429.AF4@northernnet.com> Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 00:15:53 -0700 From: Luann Woods X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: PC Version of Sonic the Hedgehog References: <199605040418.AAA28320@en.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Doug LoConti wrote: > > > Hey everybody! > > While looking at an on-line catalog, I came across a PC version of Sonic the > > Hedgehog AND a screen saver! Here's the descriptions: > > > > SKU: 49921 > > Title: SONIC W95! REL 06/14/96 RTL > > UPC: 010086850154 > > > > Category Format Price > > -------------------------- > > ENT W95 $ 41 > > > > Description: Everyone's favorite Hedgehog(and one of the worlds best sell ing characters) > > is now on the PC. Sonic battles Dr. > > Robotnik latest evil creation, Metal Sonic, in a race to save the world. Sonic Embarks on > > an important mission: rescue his friends > > Princess Sally and retrieve the Time Stones before Robotnik can. REQ: Windows 95, Pentium > > processor, 60mhz, 8mb ram, SVGA > > 256 color graphics, double speed CDROM drive, 8mb hard disk space, 16 bit audio, sound > > card, keyboard, gamepad, joystick or > > mouse. > > this was the game I was TELLING you people about! I have this > game. ;) Oh well... the screensaver is another story. > > Do you know if there is a Win 3.1 versoin of either of those programs? C.W. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 4 02:14:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id BAA15148 for sonic-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 01:52:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iwaynet.iwaynet.net ([198.30.29.7]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id BAA15143 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 01:52:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from port138.iwaynet.net (port138.iwaynet.net [198.30.29.138]) by iwaynet.iwaynet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA02902 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 01:50:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 01:50:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960504015303.1bcf3dd0@mailbox.iwaynet.net> X-Sender: eggleton@mailbox.iwaynet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Kulock Subject: Re: PC Version of Sonic the Hedgehog Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 12:20 PM 5/4/99 +0000, you wrote: >> Hey everybody! >> While looking at an on-line catalog, I came across a PC version of Sonic the >> Hedgehog AND a screen saver! Here's the descriptions: >> >> SKU: 49921 >> Title: SONIC W95! REL 06/14/96 RTL >> UPC: 010086850154 >> >> Category Format Price >> -------------------------- >> ENT W95 $ 41 >> >> Description: Everyone's favorite Hedgehog(and one of the worlds best sell ing characters) >> is now on the PC. Sonic battles Dr. >> Robotnik latest evil creation, Metal Sonic, in a race to save the world. Sonic Embarks on >> an important mission: rescue his friends >> Princess Sally and retrieve the Time Stones before Robotnik can. REQ: Windows 95, Pentium >> processor, 60mhz, 8mb ram, SVGA >> 256 color graphics, double speed CDROM drive, 8mb hard disk space, 16 bit audio, sound >> card, keyboard, gamepad, joystick or >> mouse. > > this was the game I was TELLING you people about! I have this >game. ;) Oh well... the screensaver is another story. > > > > BTW, speaking of the screensaver, I was looking at the requirements.. It needs a pentium?!?!For a screensaver?!?! That's GOT to be one great screensvaer... -Knuck's/Kulock the SOA/SOA hater.. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 4 02:31:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id CAA16594 for sonic-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 02:06:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA16589 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 02:06:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mime2.prodigy.com ([192.168.253.26]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id CAA109854 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 02:06:21 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by mime2.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) id CAA20976 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sat, 4 May 1996 02:04:12 -0400 Message-Id: <199605040604.CAA20976@mime2.prodigy.com> X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm02sc02 From: AHVT94B@prodigy.com ( THADDEUS BOYD) Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 02:04:12, -0500 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: I'm back... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hi, I'm Thad "X" Boyd, a Sonic enthusiast, and a former user of this list. I got kicked off back in January (if you REALLY wanna know the vivid details, check the list archives), and didn't even know I HAD been (being subscribed to another, EXTREMELY high-traffic list) until a few weeks ago. But that's all in the past. Now I'm back, and I PROMISE I won't lose it again. As for the present, I'd like to know how many of you out there have read my stories, The Hunt Begins (thanks to Dave Pistone for correcting his minor errors on this one), Jaded Views (thanks to Steve Tramer for helping write it), Blue Flames (thanks to Brent Roberts; again, I had a co-author), and The Bargain (my latest, which is only on my own homepage), or have visited my page (http://pages.prodigy.com/Thad_X_Boyd/). Feedback is welcomed and encouraged (my stories can, I believe, be discussed on the list, but feedback on my homepage should only be sent to ME). Finally, I'd like to announce some upcoming stories by my esteemed colleague, Stephen Tramer, starting with The End of Innocence (Book 1 of the 72 Hours Trilogy). Look for them on my page first, and MAYBE on Bookshire's, though I'm not sure about the latter (I don't know if they can really be called "Sonic stories" as Robotnik makes only a couple brief appearances and, so far as I've read, Sonic only appears in ONE LINE of the whole trilogy). I'm editting them, which, I might add, is NOT an easy task. Steve needs to learn the meaning of "proofreading" instead of leaving the WHOLE THING to me...ah, but now I'm starting to get off-topic. 8( Anywayz, read my stories if you get the chance; stop by my page whenever convenient, and tell me what you think! Bye now... >< Any smoothly functioning technology will have the appearance of Magic. - Arthur C. Clarke From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 4 05:11:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id EAA26781 for sonic-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 04:58:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bigboote.WPI.EDU (root@bigboote.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id EAA26776 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 04:58:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wpi.WPI.EDU (tedp@wpi.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.6]) by bigboote.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA29379; Sat, 4 May 1996 04:58:50 -0400 From: Theodore Patri Perrotti Received: (from tedp@localhost) by wpi.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.8.Alpha.1) id EAA14085; Sat, 4 May 1996 04:58:49 -0400 Message-Id: <199605040858.EAA14085@wpi.WPI.EDU> Subject: Re: I'm back... To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 04:58:49 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tedp@WPI.EDU (Theodore Patri Perrotti) In-Reply-To: <199605040604.CAA20976@mime2.prodigy.com> from "THADDEUS BOYD" at May 4, 96 02:04:12 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hi, Thad! I remember you from way back when, and want to say, "Welcome back to the Sonic mailing list!" I've read three of your stories: Jaded Views (Not impressed, sorry), Blue Flame (pretty cool), and The Hunt Begins (very cool). I remember you saying you did Jaded Views and Blue Flame as kind of a lark, but I like it when you write more serious stories like The Hunt Begins. Anyway, welcome back! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) perrottit.mbr@asme.org Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester Polytechnic Institute ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 4 11:25:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA16266 for sonic-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 11:07:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id LAA16258 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 11:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.41]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA02184 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 08:10:41 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 08:10:41 -0700 Message-Id: <199605041510.IAA02184@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: PC Version of Sonic the Hedgehog Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 01:50 AM 5/4/96 -0400, you wrote: >At 12:20 PM 5/4/99 +0000, you wrote: >>> Hey everybody! >>> While looking at an on-line catalog, I came across a PC version of Sonic >the >>> Hedgehog AND a screen saver! Here's the descriptions: >>> >>> SKU: 49921 >>> Title: SONIC W95! REL 06/14/96 RTL >>> UPC: 010086850154 >>> >>> Category Format Price >>> -------------------------- >>> ENT W95 $ 41 >>> >>> Description: Everyone's favorite Hedgehog(and one of the worlds best sell >ing characters) >>> is now on the PC. Sonic battles Dr. >>> Robotnik latest evil creation, Metal Sonic, in a race to save the world. >Sonic Embarks on >>> an important mission: rescue his friends >>> Princess Sally and retrieve the Time Stones before Robotnik can. REQ: >Windows 95, Pentium >>> processor, 60mhz, 8mb ram, SVGA >>> 256 color graphics, double speed CDROM drive, 8mb hard disk space, 16 bit >audio, sound >>> card, keyboard, gamepad, joystick or >>> mouse. >> >> this was the game I was TELLING you people about! I have this >>game. ;) Oh well... the screensaver is another story. >> >> >> >> >BTW, speaking of the screensaver, I was looking at the requirements.. >It needs a pentium?!?!For a screensaver?!?! >That's GOT to be one great screensvaer... > >-Knuck's/Kulock the SOA/SOA hater.. > > We're getting a pentium this week, that means I can get a way cool Sonic screensaver, instead of cheap bouncing squares. :^) -Chris F. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 4 16:01:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA02848 for sonic-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 15:48:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from inet.uni-c.dk (inet.uni-c.dk [130.228.6.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA02843 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 15:48:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from arh166.ppp.uni-c.dk (arh166.ppp.uni-c.dk [130.228.13.166]) by inet.uni-c.dk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA28410 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:48:22 +0200 Received: by arh166.ppp.uni-c.dk with Microsoft Mail id <01BB3A03.2CFFDFE0@arh166.ppp.uni-c.dk>; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:46:39 +-200 Message-ID: <01BB3A03.2CFFDFE0@arh166.ppp.uni-c.dk> From: Michael Emil Hansen To: "'Sonic Mailing List'" Subject: PC Screansaver. Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 21:45:04 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net SGkgR295cy4NCkkgd29uZGVyLCBpZiBpdHMgcGFzaWJsZSB0byBnZXQgdGhhdCBzY3JlYW5zYXZl ciBpbiBFdXJvcCAoRGVubWFyaykuDQpJZiBhbnkgb2YgeW91IGtub3csIHRoZW4gcGxlYXMgc2Vu ZCBtZSBhIG5vdGUuDQooSSBjdWRutHQgZ2V0IHRoZSBTb25pYyBNZWdhIENEIDooICkNCg0K2sTE xMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMLExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTE xMTExMTExMTExMTExL8NCrMgICAgICAgIF9fXy0tLS0tLV9fICAgICCzICAgICAgICAgICAgyc3N zSDJzc3NICAgIMnNzbsgyc3NuyAgICAgICAgICAgICCzDQqzIHxcX18tLSAgIC9cICAgICAgIF8t ICAgsyAgICAgICAgICAgIMzNzSAgzM3NICDNzSC6ICAgILogICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgsw0KsyB8 IC8gICAgX18gICAgICAgXyAgICAgILMgICAgICAgICAgICDKICAgIMogICAgICAgyM3NvCDIzc28 ICAgICAgICAgICAgILMNCrMgIC8vXCAgLyAgXCAgICAgL19fICAgICCzICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgIEtub3Rob2xlLiAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICCzDQqzICB8ICBvfCAgMHxfXyAgICAgIC0t XyAgsyAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgsw0KsyAg XFxfX19fLS0gX18gXCAgIF9fXyAtILMgICAgICAgICAgICAgQ29tbWFuZGVyIFNvbmljIERhdGEu ICAgICAgICAgICAgILMNCrMgIChAQCAgICBfXy8gIC8gL18gICAgICCzICAgICAgICAgRS1tYWls IHNvbmljY3NkQGluZXQudW5pLWMuZGsgICAgICAgICCzDQqzICAgICAtX19fX18tLS0gICAtLV8g ICAgsyAgICAgICAgSFRUUDovL0lORVQuVU5JLUMuREsvflNPTklDQ1NELyAgICAgICAgsw0KsyAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgILMgICAgICAgICAgIEFTQ0lJIFNvbmljIGJ5IEhhbiBKLiBM ZWUgICAgICAgICAgILMNCsPExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTBxMTExMTExMTExMTExMTE xMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMS0DQqzICAgIFN0SCBTYWwrKyteaSBTb24r KytpIEJ1bisrIiBUYWwrKyt0IE5pYysrXiBMdXArKyBSYnQtLS0gU252LS0tXiAgICAgsw0KsyAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIFArKyBEcHdmbyAkKysgRTE3IEVlMjcgQTE5IEdNICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgILMNCsDExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTE xMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTZDQo= From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 4 17:16:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA08002 for sonic-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA07995 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:01:00 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@AOL.COM Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA12436 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sat, 4 May 1996 17:00:29 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 17:00:29 -0400 Message-ID: <960504170028_484338230@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Sonic X-Treme 4 Saturn Review Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Although I know everyone has been talking about this game 4 a VERY long time, I just got the latest issue of Game Players magazine (I read and am subscribed to several mags) and it has a World Exclusive (yeah right) review of Sonic for Saturn! Just for those who haven't been able to get their hands on this mag yet, I've decided to give some highlights of the four-page (and what a sweet 4 it is) Sonic section... [Sonic's new abilities: SpinBash: A quick forward attack modified from the Spindash SpinSlash: A mid-air, 360 degree attack Ring Throwing: Just what you've always wanted Sonic to be able to do. The Story-Line: Sonic Saves The Day The new story intoduces two new characters - one, an old man named Professor Gazebo Boobowski and the second, his daughter named Tiara B. Neither character is playable in the game but they are both well-represented in the game's cinematics and there is always the possibilitiy of future involvement in later adventures. (Just a little note from me, SUPER STH: Cinematics... YES!!! And Tiara's a hot lookin' Hedgehog... uh oh, Sally...) As with every great hero, Sonic's greatest joy in life comes from saving his friends from the clutches of evil, and in Sonic X-Treme, very little has changed! At the beginning of the game, we find Sonic doing a little surfing when he sees the Bluestreak distress signal in the sky. The signal is coming from Professor Gazebo Boobowski and his daughter Tiara B (Sonic in drag? You make the call). Keepers of the six magical Rings of Order, and the castle wherein they practice the anchient art of ring smithing, (Another note from me: THEY do ring smithing? But I thought Chuck was the only one... hmmmmm....) Boobowski and Tiara are in fear that Dr. Robotnik, Sonic's archnemesis (duh), is after their precious rings. Dr. Robotnik has, at this point, already made one attempt at stealing the Rings of Order. It is determined that only Sonic can fight off Robotnik's attempt and to do so, he will need to collect the six rings himself. From there, Sonic sets off to gather the six magic Rings of Order, battling Robotnik's Badniks along the way. Just another say in the life of a super hedgehog.] There is MUCH more to the article than this, so to those of you who are interested (I would be if I was you), go to the store and buy it! P.S: It's real easy to find... it's got a big picture of Sonic on the cover. SUPER STH@aol.com "Hi. My name's Sonic, and I'm a ringaholic. Somebody help me!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 4 20:43:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA18608 for sonic-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 20:26:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail (canal.iaw.on.ca [204.225.37.33]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA18603 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 20:26:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nb2-44.iaw.on.ca by mail with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0uFre8-000bCSC; Sat, 4 May 96 20:25 EDT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 4 May 96 20:25 EDT X-Sender: butcher@iaw.on.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: butcher@iaw.on.ca (Paul Lapensee) Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >>One more thing I noticed, and I'll drop in another form feed for those who >haven't read it yet: > >The masked rider is almost always drawn with _four_ fingers, yet Sally, >like the rest of the furries, only has _three_...< > >How do you Sally's MOTHER doesn't have just three fingers, eh? Something to >think about here. > >Ken > There's two ways to fix this. One. All of the freedom fighters grow an extra finger to be even with Sonic, Tails and so on.. Two. Or Sonic and company lose a finger. Its just odd to have some with three and some with four. Him if Sonic and Sally have kids how many fingers will they have? From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 4 20:58:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA20900 for sonic-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 20:47:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout17.mail.aol.com (emout17.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.43]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA20893 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 20:47:34 -0400 (EDT) From: SoniadaH@aol.com Received: by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA13997 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sat, 4 May 1996 20:47:04 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 20:47:04 -0400 Message-ID: <960504204702_484433584@emout17.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net If they have kids? Hmm... 9 fingers on each hand? 5+4=9 Hehheh... Sonia da Hedgehog-Sister to the Fastest thing Alive! *We do not see things as they are, we see things as we are.*--Arrow Stone "It's a kind of Magic..."--Connor MacLeod From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 4 21:45:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA21892 for sonic-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:28:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id QAA04469 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 16:05:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from echo.i-link.net (echo.i-link.net [199.172.8.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id PAA21017 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 15:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from austin-2-7.i-link.net by echo.i-link.net (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA06100; Sat, 4 May 1996 14:53:49 -0500 X-Sender: toneross@austin.i-link.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 14:57:38 -0600 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: toneross@i-link.net (Jessica Ross) Subject: Re: PC Version of Sonic the Hedgehog Cc: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 08:10 AM 5/4/96, Dan wrote: >At 01:50 AM 5/4/96 -0400, you wrote: >>At 12:20 PM 5/4/99 +0000, you wrote: >>>> Hey everybody! >>>> While looking at an on-line catalog, I came across a PC version of Sonic >>the >>>> Hedgehog AND a screen saver! Here's the descriptions: >>>> >>>> SKU: 49921 >>>> Title: SONIC W95! REL 06/14/96 RTL >>>> UPC: 010086850154 >>>> >>>> Category Format Price >>>> -------------------------- >>>> ENT W95 $ 41 >>>> >>>> Description: Everyone's favorite Hedgehog(and one of the worlds best sell >>ing characters) >>>> is now on the PC. Sonic battles Dr. >>>> Robotnik latest evil creation, Metal Sonic, in a race to save the world. >>Sonic Embarks on >>>> an important mission: rescue his friends >>>> Princess Sally and retrieve the Time Stones before Robotnik can. REQ: >>Windows 95, Pentium >>>> processor, 60mhz, 8mb ram, SVGA >>>> 256 color graphics, double speed CDROM drive, 8mb hard disk space, 16 bit >>audio, sound >>>> card, keyboard, gamepad, joystick or >>>> mouse. >>> >>> this was the game I was TELLING you people about! I have this >>>game. ;) Oh well... the screensaver is another story. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>BTW, speaking of the screensaver, I was looking at the requirements.. >>It needs a pentium?!?!For a screensaver?!?! >>That's GOT to be one great screensvaer... >> >>-Knuck's/Kulock the SOA/SOA hater.. >> >> > >We're getting a pentium this week, that means I can get a way cool Sonic >screensaver, instead of cheap bouncing squares. :^) > > -Chris F. You have to have a pentium processor for a SCREENSAVER??? Well, that has to be the coolest screensaver ever or some putz put too much crap on it!!! J.R. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 4 22:05:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA24337 for sonic-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:51:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailout1.h1.usa.pipeline.com (data1.h1.usa.pipeline.com [38.8.56.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA24332 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:51:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pipe7 by mailout1.h1.usa.pipeline.com (8.6.9/2.1-PSINet/Pipeline) id BAA29801; Sun, 5 May 1996 01:50:36 GMT Received: by pipe7 (5.0/SMI-5.4-PSI) id AA18340; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:45:47 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 21:45:47 -0400 Message-Id: <9605050145.AA18340@pipe7> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Sonic IRC From: golbez@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin J Cawlfield) X-Pipeuser: golbez X-Pipehub: usa.pipeline.com X-Pipegcos: (Kevin J Cawlfield) X-Mailer: Pipeline USA v3.4.0 Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net I just left the Sonic IRC. The amount of people joining was rising, and everything was going smoothly until all my incoming messages just stopped. I am rather impatient, so most likely if I waited just one more minute I would've gotten all the messages. Now all you guys on IRC know the reason for my rather abrupt departure. I was wondering if the time it takes a message to get delivered differs with the time of day. If so, we could set up for an IRC session during a non peak hour of the day, say early in the day on a weekend. Any other suggestions? From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 4 22:28:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA24298 for sonic-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA24293 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:49:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mime2.prodigy.com ([192.168.253.26]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA93472 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:49:00 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by mime2.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) id VAA11924 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:44:08 -0400 Message-Id: <199605050144.VAA11924@mime2.prodigy.com> X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm02sc02 From: AHVT94B@prodigy.com ( THADDEUS BOYD) Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 21:44:03, -0500 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic X-Treme 4 Saturn Review Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Keepers of the six magical Rings of Order, and the castle wherein they >practice the anchient art of ring smithing, > >(Another note from me: THEY do ring smithing? But I thought Chuck >was the only one... hmmmmm....) Well, as I've explained in at least two of my stories (The Hunt Begins and Jaded Views come to mind), there are several types of rings, including Magic Rings, Power Rings, Teleportation Rings, and Kabuki's Jaded Ring (the significance of which, for those who haven't figured it out, will be revealed in my next story, Ground Zero). >< From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 4 22:30:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA24316 for sonic-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:50:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA24311 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mime2.prodigy.com ([192.168.253.26]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA93552 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:49:17 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by mime2.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) id VAA20896 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:44:11 -0400 Message-Id: <199605050144.VAA20896@mime2.prodigy.com> X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm02sc02 From: AHVT94B@prodigy.com ( THADDEUS BOYD) Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 21:44:06, -0500 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >>>One more thing I noticed, and I'll drop in another form feed for those >who >>haven't read it yet: >> >>The masked rider is almost always drawn with _four_ fingers, yet Sally, >>like the rest of the furries, only has _three_...< >> >>How do you Sally's MOTHER doesn't have just three fingers, eh? Something >to >>think about here. >> >>Ken >> >There's two ways to fix this. >One. All of the freedom fighters grow an extra finger to be even with >Sonic, >Tails and so on.. >Two. Or Sonic and company lose a finger. > >Its just odd to have some with three and some with four. > >Him if Sonic and Sally have kids how many fingers will they have? Here's my two-cents' worth: I've noticed that the characters who appear in the video games (with the obvious exception of Knuckles) have four fingers (not counting thumbs) on each hand, whereas the others tend to have only three. To boot, I've noticed that on the package art for the first and second Sonic Genesis games, Sonic's drawn with three fingers and a thumb on each hand, whereas in Sonic 3, he apparently grew two extra fingers... >< Any smoothly functioning technology will have the appearance of Magic. - Arthur C. Clarke From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 00:01:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA00689 for sonic-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 23:50:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA00684 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 23:50:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id XAA15560 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 23:50:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.41]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA14384 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 20:52:50 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 20:52:50 -0700 Message-Id: <199605050352.UAA14384@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 08:25 PM 5/4/96 EDT, you wrote: >>>One more thing I noticed, and I'll drop in another form feed for those who >>haven't read it yet: >> >>The masked rider is almost always drawn with _four_ fingers, yet Sally, >>like the rest of the furries, only has _three_...< >> >>How do you Sally's MOTHER doesn't have just three fingers, eh? Something to >>think about here. >> >>Ken >> >There's two ways to fix this. >One. All of the freedom fighters grow an extra finger to be even with Sonic, >Tails and so on.. >Two. Or Sonic and company lose a finger. > >Its just odd to have some with three and some with four. > >Him if Sonic and Sally have kids how many fingers will they have? > > > That's a big IF. More like WHEN, not if. Anyway, probably the same as their parents'. -Chris F. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 00:41:47 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA00812 for sonic-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 23:55:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA00736 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 23:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.41]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA14445 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 20:57:56 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 20:57:56 -0700 Message-Id: <199605050357.UAA14445@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 09:44 PM 5/4/96 -0500, you wrote: >>>>One more thing I noticed, and I'll drop in another form feed for those >who >>>haven't read it yet: >>> >>>The masked rider is almost always drawn with _four_ fingers, yet Sally, >>>like the rest of the furries, only has _three_...< >>> >>>How do you Sally's MOTHER doesn't have just three fingers, eh? Something >to >>>think about here. >>> >>>Ken >>> >>There's two ways to fix this. >>One. All of the freedom fighters grow an extra finger to be even with >Sonic, >>Tails and so on.. >>Two. Or Sonic and company lose a finger. >> >>Its just odd to have some with three and some with four. >> >>Him if Sonic and Sally have kids how many fingers will they have? > >Here's my two-cents' worth: I've noticed that the characters who appear in >the video games (with the obvious exception of Knuckles) have four fingers >(not counting thumbs) on each hand, whereas the others tend to have only >three. To boot, I've noticed that on the package art for the first and >second Sonic Genesis games, Sonic's drawn with three fingers and a thumb on >each hand, whereas in Sonic 3, he apparently grew two extra fingers... > Two?! You mean one. -Chris F. > >>< > >Any smoothly functioning technology will have the appearance of Magic. > - Arthur C. Clarke > From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 01:32:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id BAA07474 for sonic-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 01:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA07461 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 01:10:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mime2.prodigy.com ([192.168.253.26]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA29492 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 01:09:24 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by mime2.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) id BAA21078 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sun, 5 May 1996 01:08:45 -0400 Message-Id: <199605050508.BAA21078@mime2.prodigy.com> X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm02sc02 From: AHVT94B@prodigy.com ( THADDEUS BOYD) Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 01:08:45, -0500 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >>Here's my two-cents' worth: I've noticed that the characters who appear >in >>the video games (with the obvious exception of Knuckles) have four >fingers >>(not counting thumbs) on each hand, whereas the others tend to have only >>three. To boot, I've noticed that on the package art for the first and >>second Sonic Genesis games, Sonic's drawn with three fingers and a thumb >on >>each hand, whereas in Sonic 3, he apparently grew two extra fingers... >> > >Two?! You mean one. Mmmmmno. See, one finger times two hands equals two fingers. >< Somebody's got to do it! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 05:43:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id FAA21577 for sonic-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 05:20:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca [206.75.222.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id FAA21572 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 05:20:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA22654; Sun, 5 May 1996 02:58:00 -0600 Received: by ender.cuug.ab.ca (V1.17-beta.31{ask@castrov.UUCP/10}/Amiga) id ; Sat, 4 May 96 23:54:42 MDT Received: by sago.cuc.ab.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1(sago-1.3)) id AA26622; Sat, 4 May 96 20:26:52 MDT Date: Sat, 4 May 96 20:26:52 MDT Message-Id: <9605050226.AA26622@sago.cuc.ab.ca> From: uug@sago.cuc.ab.ca (William Graham) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: PC Screansaver. Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Michael Emil Hansen wrote (in BASE64 encoded message): > Hi Goys. > I wonder, if its pasible to get that screansaver in Europ (Denmark). > If any of you know, then pleas send me a note. > (I cudn´t get the Sonic Mega CD :( ) I recently went looking for Sonic-CD at Toys'R'Us, and noticed that have stopped carrying it. As for the Sonic Screen-Saver needing a p5 cpu, I guess it just means that it wants to run really, really fast! - William Graham - a net.freedom-fighter for a free Mobius! - From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 12:41:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id MAA14053 for sonic-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 12:30:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id MAA14037 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 12:30:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from COMPAQ ([203.120.83.188]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA7290 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 00:29:54 +0800 X-Sender: prower@po.pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: prower@pacific.net.sg (Aaron Lye Soon Choy) Subject: RE : Many things , including fan-fics Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 00:29:54 +0800 Message-ID: <19960505162949.AAA7290@COMPAQ> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hi again . Today I have a few things to talk about : 1)My Archives 2)New Fan Fiction 3)A reply to that thing about a review on Sonic X-treme 1) My Archives As you all know , I run the Sonic Fan Fiction Archives . To date this is what I've recieved : New Fan Fiction : 1 Votes for favorite fan fiction : 0 Decipher : 1 Both the things I've recieved came from the same person , the fan fiction was forwarded to me from another person . Anyway , I cannot believe that no one has completed any fan fics that have NOT been posted on the net . Surely someone has something they want displayed . I made this archive to create a place where authors can display their works , but my archives seem to be turning into a showcase for my own fan fics only ... This only boils down to a few possibilities : a) No one knows about my archives b) No one can be bothered with my archives c) No one has fan fiction d) No one has completed any fan fiction recently All I can say is .... please...please (I'm grovelling here..) send me your fan fiction . Without your support , there is no point to the Fan Fiction Archives . Perhaps as a start , those of you working on fan fics could let me know that you are ? No details needed , just a sentence saying that you are working on something and when it is expected to be completed . In advance , thankyouthankyouthankyou . :) e-mail : prower@pacific.net.sg 2) New Fan Fiction Here it is : I've posted two new fan fictions to the Fan Fiction Archives . One is written by me , the other is written by a Fred Richards , which was forwarded to me by Kiken Enryu yesterday . Here's the description : Tell Tale Hell - by Fred Richards This story is set in the Robotnik era , and covers stuff about Packbell , under orders from Robotnik , experimenting to create a powerful biological lifeform cum weapon . Power of the Mind - by me This story continues from Tides of War , in the As the Wheel Turns series of fan fics . It will tell of the efforts of the Council of the Federated Races to find the traitor in it's ranks that had enabled Queen (and President) Sally's capture by the forces of the Alliance of Races . What they find out however seems impossible to believe ... As before , you can also e-mail me for a personal copy of MY fanfics . If you really cannot get the fanfics of others on my archive , send a note my way , and I'll do what I can . Look for the e-mail address in my signature below . 3) Reply OK , now for the last part . The magazine Electronic Gaming Monthly's May issue (we just got it here in Singapore , and I'm not sure how long ago it was released elsewhere ) had a half page article on what they call " Super Sonic " , the working title for the Sonic game on the Saturn . They say the release date is in Fall , it is action themed , and is 25% complete . The game is in 3D , and will either be rendered , like the arcade game , or polygon-based like the Sonic Fighting Game . EGM also said that Sega would not comment further until the E3 trade show . I've said my share . That's all for now . Later ______________________________________________________________________________ Aaron "Prower" Lye Maintainer , Sonic Fan Fiction Archives E-mail : prower@pacific.net.sg The Sonic Fan Fiction Archives : http://home.pacific.net.sg/~prower IRC Nick : TailsProw ______________________________________________________________________________ StH JJ1 WkS+++ Son++ Sal++ Tal+++t Bun++" Rot~ Ant++ Nic+ Dul+ UnC0 Bks+ Rbk0 Snv--/+ Knu+ Mut+ P+ Dwf $+++ E27 Ay78 GM ______________________________________________________________________________ Think : Say "miles per hour" fast . What do you get ? Miles Prower ! I'm guessing everyone knows this by now.... ______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 12:56:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id MAA14168 for sonic-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 12:36:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id MAB14153 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 12:36:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from COMPAQ ([203.120.83.188]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA8087 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 00:36:28 +0800 X-Sender: prower@po.pacific.net.sg (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: prower@pacific.net.sg (Aaron Lye Soon Choy) Subject: Oops! Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 00:36:28 +0800 Message-ID: <19960505163627.AAA8087@COMPAQ> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Well , I've just taken a look at the two fan fics I was talkig about earlier . That will be the LAST time I try to upload a .doc document to the net . Anyway , my apologies to Fred Richards and all who went there to find the new fanfics prefixed with gibberish . I will be converting them to .txt format , and they should be repaired within 24 hours . Once again , sorry ! Later ______________________________________________________________________________ Aaron "Prower" Lye Maintainer , Sonic Fan Fiction Archives E-mail : prower@pacific.net.sg The Sonic Fan Fiction Archives : http://home.pacific.net.sg/~prower IRC Nick : TailsProw ______________________________________________________________________________ StH JJ1 WkS+++ Son++ Sal++ Tal+++t Bun++" Rot~ Ant++ Nic+ Dul+ UnC0 Bks+ Rbk0 Snv--/+ Knu+ Mut+ P+ Dwf $+++ E27 Ay78 GM ______________________________________________________________________________ Think : Say "miles per hour" fast . What do you get ? Miles Prower ! I'm guessing everyone knows this by now.... ______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 15:42:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA24304 for sonic-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 15:23:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bigboote.WPI.EDU (root@bigboote.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id PAA24298 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 15:23:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wpi.WPI.EDU (tedp@wpi.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.6]) by bigboote.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA14391; Sun, 5 May 1996 15:23:45 -0400 From: Theodore Patri Perrotti Received: (from tedp@localhost) by wpi.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.8.Alpha.1) id PAA13348; Sun, 5 May 1996 15:23:44 -0400 Message-Id: <199605051923.PAA13348@wpi.WPI.EDU> Subject: Re: PC Screansaver. To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 15:23:44 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tedp@WPI.EDU (Theodore Patri Perrotti) In-Reply-To: <9605050226.AA26622@sago.cuc.ab.ca> from "William Graham" at May 4, 96 08:26:52 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > > Michael Emil Hansen wrote (in BASE64 encoded > message): > > > Hi Goys. > > I wonder, if its pasible to get that screansaver in Europ (Denmark). > > If any of you know, then pleas send me a note. > > (I cudn´t get the Sonic Mega CD :( ) > > I recently went looking for Sonic-CD at Toys'R'Us, and noticed that > have stopped carrying it. > As for the Sonic Screen-Saver needing a p5 cpu, I guess it just means > that it wants to run really, really fast! > > - William Graham - a net.freedom-fighter for a free Mobius! - > > > Not to play net-cop or anything, but this list isn't for discussing Sonic games and software. Could you take this to private e-mail, guys? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) perrottit.mbr@asme.org Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester Polytechnic Institute ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 15:58:03 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA26088 for sonic-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 15:50:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.com (en.com [204.89.181.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id PAA26083 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 15:50:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.en.com (mighty.en.net [206.148.90.46]) by en.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id PAA03070 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 15:57:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605051957.PAA03070@en.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Doug LoConti" To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 03:57:03 +0000 Subject: Character page up Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net I put up the characters on my page; it's now going to be dedicated totally to the profiles of Sonic fan/fic characters. DON'T WORRY if you don't see a character/your character up there yet, I'm putting up a few at a time. :) the URL is: http://www.en.com/users/mighty/index.html check it out, I'm sure you'll like. :) Later! -MiGHTY From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 16:13:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA26068 for sonic-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 15:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.com (en.com [204.89.181.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id PAA26061 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 15:49:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.en.com (mighty.en.net [206.148.90.46]) by en.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id PAA03057 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 15:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605051957.PAA03057@en.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Doug LoConti" To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 03:56:54 +0000 Subject: Character page up Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net I put up the characters on my page; it's now going to be dedicated totally to the profiles of Sonic fan/fic characters. DON'T WORRY if you don't see a character/your character up there yet, I'm putting up a few at a time. :) the URL is: http://www.en.com/users/mighty/index.html check it out, I'm sure you'll like. :) Later! -MiGHTY From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 16:28:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA27621 for sonic-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 16:10:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.Clark.Net (mail.clark.net [168.143.0.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id QAA27614 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 16:10:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ba.com (ba.com [198.5.6.1]) by mail.Clark.Net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA28541 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 16:10:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sirkain.mns.inc.com (sirkain.mnsinc.com [206.239.33.181]) by ba.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA10076 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 15:11:35 GMT Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 15:11:35 GMT Message-Id: <199605051511.PAA10076@ba.com> X-Sender: sirkain@mnsinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Eric Goodwin Subject: Re: Character page up Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 03:57 AM 5/6/99 +0000, you wrote: > >I put up the characters on my page; it's now going to be dedicated >totally to the profiles of Sonic fan/fic characters. DON'T WORRY if >you don't see a character/your character up there yet, I'm putting up >a few at a time. :) the URL is: > >http://www.en.com/users/mighty/index.html > >check it out, I'm sure you'll like. :) > >Later! > >-MiGHTY > I'm there right now as we speak.. reading up on the characters... that rat character fraked me out: two hearts!? bio stuff? geez.. he'd make kain faint ina heartbeat if he ever saw him. And you've got me interested in Mighty fox there... a story might be able ot be made wit the idea i have inb mind, if you wanna hear it.. (its just something that poped inmy head when i read your background) Sir Kain E-mail: sirkain@mnsinc.com From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 17:58:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA02900 for sonic-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 17:48:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.com (en.com [204.89.181.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id RAA02894 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 17:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.en.com (mighty.en.net [206.148.90.46]) by en.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id RAA13196 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 17:55:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605052155.RAA13196@en.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Doug LoConti" To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 05:54:59 +0000 Subject: Re: Character page up Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > At 03:57 AM 5/6/99 +0000, you wrote: > > > >I put up the characters on my page; it's now going to be dedicated > >totally to the profiles of Sonic fan/fic characters. DON'T WORRY if > >you don't see a character/your character up there yet, I'm putting up > >a few at a time. :) the URL is: > > > >http://www.en.com/users/mighty/index.html > > > >check it out, I'm sure you'll like. :) > > > >Later! > > > >-MiGHTY > > > I'm there right now as we speak.. reading up on the characters... that > rat character fraked me out: two hearts!? bio stuff? geez.. he'd make kain > faint ina heartbeat if he ever saw him. And you've got me interested in > Mighty fox there... a story might be able ot be made wit the idea i have inb > mind, if you wanna hear it.. (its just something that poped inmy head when i > read your background) I'd be interested. Tell me! :) -MiGHTY the FoX, Freedom Fighter international From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 18:12:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA02870 for sonic-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 17:47:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.com (en.com [204.89.181.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id RAA02862 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 17:47:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.en.com (mighty.en.net [206.148.90.46]) by en.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id RAA13167 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 17:55:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605052155.RAA13167@en.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Doug LoConti" To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 05:54:22 +0000 Subject: Re: Character page up Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > At 03:57 AM 5/6/99 +0000, you wrote: > > > >I put up the characters on my page; it's now going to be dedicated > >totally to the profiles of Sonic fan/fic characters. DON'T WORRY if > >you don't see a character/your character up there yet, I'm putting up > >a few at a time. :) the URL is: > > > >http://www.en.com/users/mighty/index.html > > > >check it out, I'm sure you'll like. :) > > > >Later! > > > >-MiGHTY > > > I'm there right now as we speak.. reading up on the characters... that > rat character fraked me out: two hearts!? bio stuff? geez.. he'd make kain > faint ina heartbeat if he ever saw him. And you've got me interested in > Mighty fox there... a story might be able ot be made wit the idea i have inb > mind, if you wanna hear it.. (its just something that poped inmy head when i > read your background) I'd be interested. Tell me! :) -MiGHTY the FoX, Freedom Fighter international From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 18:43:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA04667 for sonic-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 18:18:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com (emout18.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.44]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA04662 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 18:18:39 -0400 (EDT) From: SoniadaH@aol.com Received: by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA11583 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sun, 5 May 1996 18:18:08 -0400 Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 18:18:08 -0400 Message-ID: <960505181808_391230361@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Character page up Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net I'll send you a bio and pix of a few of my characters: Moi Duncan (Brent Packbell) MacSouns Connor (Alex Acorn) MacSouns Kopter Mitzi Briar And a couple others... Suni the Hedgehog--Sister to the Fastest thing Alive! **It's a kind of Magic...**--Connor MacLeod From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 22:15:47 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA15450 for sonic-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 21:44:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.airmail.net (server-f.iadfw.net [206.66.12.40]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA15445 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 21:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.73) id ; Sun, 5 May 96 20:43:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 5 May 96 20:44:05 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: lca254@mail.airmail.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: lca254@airmail.net (Lu Cananza) Subject: Re: HEY! Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net I'm in the hospital. I got ran over by a dirtbike! I'm going to die soon. I love you all (espically Kay-Lee)! goodbiiiii-ugh- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 22:23:48 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA15203 for sonic-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 21:38:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout16.mail.aol.com (emout16.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA15198 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 21:38:21 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA02757 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sun, 5 May 1996 21:37:50 -0400 Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 21:37:50 -0400 Message-ID: <960505213743_391373523@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Sonic's Age Argument Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net As all of you know, this list was recently engaged in quite a large dispute concerning Sonic's age. Well, I'd just like to add to the confusion ;-) by saying this... although no one really pays attention to the somewhat stupid Weekday Morning show that is now on USA, I was wondering... Sonic celebrated two birthdays on that show, didn't he? If so, would that effect Sonic's age at all? SUPER STH@aol.com "Hi. My name's Sonic, and I'm a ringaholic. Somebody help me!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 22:34:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA15213 for sonic-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 21:38:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com (emout14.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.40]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA15206 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 21:38:46 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA05692 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sun, 5 May 1996 21:38:15 -0400 Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 21:38:15 -0400 Message-ID: <960505213815_391374075@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >I've noticed that the characters who appear in the video games (with >the obvious exception of Knuckles) have four fingers... Welllll, after reading all of the Knuckle's mini-stories, I have noticed something (and I am sure that I am not the only one who has)... apparently no one could decide if the echidnas had four or three fingers. However, judging by the most recent stories, I can guess that they have three fingers... but the Knuckles Mini-Series issue #1 is sold out down here (AARRGGHH!! I WAITED FOR MONTHS AND DIDN'T GET ONE!!!!!!) and I never got to see it... man... SUPER STH@aol.com "Hi. My name's Sonic, and I'm a ringaholic. Somebody help me!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 22:46:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA18410 for sonic-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 22:27:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from echo.i-link.net (echo.i-link.net [199.172.8.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA08557 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 01:46:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from austin-2-11.i-link.net by echo.i-link.net (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20440; Sun, 5 May 1996 00:45:00 -0500 X-Sender: toneross@austin.i-link.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 00:48:50 -0600 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: toneross@i-link.net (Jessica Ross) Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Cc: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 09:44 PM 5/4/96, THADDEUS BOYD wrote: >>>>One more thing I noticed, and I'll drop in another form feed for those >who >>>haven't read it yet: >>> >>>The masked rider is almost always drawn with _four_ fingers, yet Sally, >>>like the rest of the furries, only has _three_...< >>> >>>How do you Sally's MOTHER doesn't have just three fingers, eh? Something >to >>>think about here. >>> >>>Ken >>> >>There's two ways to fix this. >>One. All of the freedom fighters grow an extra finger to be even with >Sonic, >>Tails and so on.. >>Two. Or Sonic and company lose a finger. >> >>Its just odd to have some with three and some with four. >> >>Him if Sonic and Sally have kids how many fingers will they have? > >Here's my two-cents' worth: I've noticed that the characters who appear in >the video games (with the obvious exception of Knuckles) have four fingers >(not counting thumbs) on each hand, whereas the others tend to have only >three. To boot, I've noticed that on the package art for the first and >second Sonic Genesis games, Sonic's drawn with three fingers and a thumb on >each hand, whereas in Sonic 3, he apparently grew two extra fingers... > > > >>< > >Any smoothly functioning technology will have the appearance of Magic. > - Arthur C. Clarke I have yet to notice that! But, that's retarded (KJH speak, adj: stupid) that Sonic has 4 fingers and the rest have three.......what happened? Robotnik severed 1 finger off of half of them???? J.R. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 23:00:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA18817 for sonic-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 22:44:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from use.usit.net (acme@use.usit.net [199.1.48.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA18812 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 22:44:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA07937; Sun, 5 May 1996 22:44:16 -0400 Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 22:44:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) Team OS/2" To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: PC Screansaver. In-Reply-To: <199605051923.PAA13348@wpi.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: Organization: Rebel Alliance of Mobius MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Sun, 5 May 1996, Theodore Patri Perrotti wrote: > Not to play net-cop or anything, but this list isn't for discussing Sonic > games and software. Could you take this to private e-mail, guys? And I'll second that too. Discussion of a software package's system requirements is straying too far from this list's purpose. If your system does not meet minimum requirements and this bothers you, please contact the software publisher directly. Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog StH JJ1 Son+ Sal++ Tal++++t Nic+i Rot+i Lup+ P++ Dopw $+++ E25 Ay68 Mail: acme@use.usit.net | WWW: http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~eschulma From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 23:10:03 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA18687 for sonic-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 22:38:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lin01.global.co.za (lin01.global.co.za [196.3.164.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id PAA24565 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 15:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anx_42.global.co.za (anx_42.global.co.za [196.3.164.92]) by lin01.global.co.za (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA06776 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 21:34:22 -0200 (GMT) Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 21:34:22 -0200 (GMT) Message-Id: <199605052334.VAA06776@lin01.global.co.za> X-Sender: ablater@mail.global.co.za X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: ablater@lin01.global.co.za (ablater) Subject: Re: PC Screansaver. Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >I recently went looking for Sonic-CD at Toys'R'Us, and noticed that >have stopped carrying it. >As for the Sonic Screen-Saver needing a p5 cpu, I guess it just means >that it wants to run really, really fast! The reason the screen saver needs a p5 and a double-speed CDROM is probably because it plays back digital video clips. AHA! Cheers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | ## #### # ## ####### #### #### | George Bush, | # # # # # # # # # # # | seen in a | ###### ##### # ###### # #### ##### | BIKINI! | # # # # # # # # # # # |!!CHECK OUT!! | # # #### #### # # # #### # # | || *~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~* || | <> Like Furries? S3M's? Satire? | || \ http://lin01.global.co.za/~ablater/ / <==// ----------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon May 6 00:37:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA28045 for sonic-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 23:59:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA27961 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 23:59:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terra.nlnet.nf.ca (terra.nlnet.nf.ca [192.75.13.101]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA06337 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 01:29:38 -0230 (NDT) Received: from n105h081.nlnet.nf.ca by terra.nlnet.nf.ca; (5.65/1.1.8.2/26Jan95-0807PM) id AA26579; Mon, 6 May 1996 01:29:34 -0230 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 01:29:34 -0230 Message-Id: <9605060359.AA26579@terra.nlnet.nf.ca> X-Sender: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (The Necromancer) Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >I have yet to notice that! But, that's retarded (KJH speak, adj: stupid) >that Sonic has 4 fingers and the rest have three.......what happened? >Robotnik severed 1 finger off of half of them???? > >J.R. {A lurker steps out of the shadows....} Hey, if Tails can grow an extra tail, Sonic can grow an extra finger. ------------------------ The Necromancer lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca Bill: "Oh, I see you got Windows 95." Frank: "Yeah, it's great. You can play games, write reports..." Computer: "ATTENTION! IF YOU DO NOT SEND ALL OF YOUR MONEY TO BILL GATES, THIS COMPUTER WILL EXPLODE IN 15 SECONDS!" Bill & Frank: "Uh, oh..." From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon May 6 08:53:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id IAA04542 for sonic-ll; Mon, 6 May 1996 08:31:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA04531 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 08:31:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA26989; Mon, 6 May 1996 08:31:04 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id IAA03889; Mon, 6 May 1996 08:31:09 -0400 Message-Id: <199605061231.IAA03889@edmund> Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 08:31:09 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <199605050352.UAA14384@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> from "Dan" at May 4, 96 08:52:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > > >Him if Sonic and Sally have kids how many fingers will they have? > > > > > That's a big IF. More like WHEN, not if. Anyway, probably the same as > their parents'. > > -Chris F. > [Smartaleck David Spade mode on]. It's called "Research." Try it. [SDS mode off] I went back to the two instances where Sonic & Sally's _kinder_ have made appearances: the conclusion of Sally's Crusade from In Your Face #1, and the very beginning of "The Return" (Sonic #22). Whereas Art Mawhinney gives Sonic & son 4 fingers, he gives Sally & daughter only three fingers. Pat Spaziante, OTOH, gives everybody four fingers. This settles nothing, of course, which is about par for such matters. ================================================================ || ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen || |\__-- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu || | / __ _ ||Sonic: "Whoa, you're not going to || //\ / \ /__ || use the L-word, are you?" || | o| 0|__ --_ ||Tails: "Well...." || \\____-- __ \ ___ - ||Sonic: "Then I will...I love you, || (@@ __/ / /_ || little bro." || -_____--- --_ ||AoStH: "Tails' New Home" ================================================================ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon May 6 09:51:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id JAA08983 for sonic-ll; Mon, 6 May 1996 09:34:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id JAA08976 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 09:34:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.41]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA07363 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 06:38:33 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 06:38:33 -0700 Message-Id: <199605061338.GAA07363@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 08:31 AM 5/6/96 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >Him if Sonic and Sally have kids how many fingers will they have? >> > >> > >> That's a big IF. More like WHEN, not if. Anyway, probably the same as >> their parents'. >> >> -Chris F. >> > >[Smartaleck David Spade mode on]. It's called "Research." Try it. >[SDS mode off] I went back to the two instances where Sonic & Sally's >_kinder_ have made appearances: the conclusion of Sally's Crusade from >In Your Face #1, and the very beginning of "The Return" (Sonic #22). >Whereas Art Mawhinney gives Sonic & son 4 fingers, he gives Sally & >daughter only three fingers. Pat Spaziante, OTOH, gives everybody four >fingers. > >This settles nothing, of course, which is about par for such matters. > >================================================================ >|| ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen >|| |\__-- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu >|| | / __ _ ||Sonic: "Whoa, you're not going to >|| //\ / \ /__ || use the L-word, are you?" >|| | o| 0|__ --_ ||Tails: "Well...." >|| \\____-- __ \ ___ - ||Sonic: "Then I will...I love you, >|| (@@ __/ / /_ || little bro." >|| -_____--- --_ ||AoStH: "Tails' New Home" >================================================================ > Maybe because they're different species...... -C.F. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon May 6 10:31:48 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA11512 for sonic-ll; Mon, 6 May 1996 10:01:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com (emout18.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.44]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA11507 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 10:01:53 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA09273 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Mon, 6 May 1996 10:01:23 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 10:01:23 -0400 Message-ID: <960506100121_391674671@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > but the Knuckles Mini-Series issue #1 is sold out down here (AARRGGHH!! I WAITED FOR MONTHS AND DIDN'T GET ONE!!!!!!) and I never got to see it... man...< You can always order a copy from Archie. ;-) Ken From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon May 6 11:00:05 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA13916 for sonic-ll; Mon, 6 May 1996 10:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.ge.com (ns.ge.com [192.35.39.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id KAA13909 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 10:24:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from getns1.erie.ge.com ([3.14.4.55]) by ns.ge.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA06522 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 10:24:05 -0400 Received: from crypt.erie.ge.com by getns1.erie.ge.com with SMTP; Mon, 6 May 1996 10:23:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from csp189.ge.com by crypt.erie.ge.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07361; Mon, 6 May 1996 10:23:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 10:23:39 -0400 Message-Id: <9605061423.AA07361@crypt.erie.ge.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: META: I Don't Want to Be a Bozo Newsgroups: junk References: <1996May2.220449@fnalv.fnal.gov> From: bauerle@engr.erie.ge.com (Ron Bauerle) Organization: GE Transportation Systems, Control Engineering Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net This showed up in rec.arts.comics.other-media, and I thought many of its points were worth mentioning on the Sonic mailing list - I'm getting tired of people posting in MIME/base 64 encoding, and/or quoting people's _entire_ messages, including the .sigs. RDB In article <1996May2.220449@fnalv.fnal.gov>, morrow@fnalv.fnal.gov (Two Songs This Elmo Sings) writes: > I DON'T WANT TO BE A BOZO > > A Guide to Readability on rec.arts.comics.* > > >1: Not everyone has the same newsreader as you, so don't use its > advanced features no matter how cool they are. > > o Hypertext is for the web. Leave the HTML out (but leave > the URL in!). > > o Multi-part messages in MIME format are ugly and almost > unreadable if you don't have a MIME-capable newsreader, and > most people don't. So don't make posts in MIME format. > > o Most people are reading news in fixed-width fonts on screens > that are 80 characters wide. If you can resize your window, > don't. If your newsreader does linewrapping for you, don't > assume that everyone else's can, too. Make your lines about > 75 characters wide, and everyone will read your post. Make > your lines about 85 characters wide and no one will read your > post. > >2: rec.arts.comics.* is a hierarchy with a lot of different groups. (stuff relating to follow-ups and crossposting deleted) >3: Watch the spoilers. > > o If you're talking about a comic book which just came out, or > a piece of information that was just announced, it's a spoiler. > Some people won't have read the comic or heard the news, and > they like to be surprised, so don't mess with their fun. > > o Put SPOILER in the Subject:, and put 24 blank lines in your > text before you start blabbing. > > o A ctrl-L will do the same thing as the blank lines for most > people, but not all. Use a ctrl-L at your own discretion, > and use at least a few blank lines just in case. > >4: Watch the quotes. > > o DO include enough quoted text to get the context of the > discussion. > > o DO include proper attribution (usually an e-mail address and a > name) of quoted text. > > o DON'T quote the entire message--if you're quoting more than ten > lines without interjecting comment, you're quoting too much. > > o DON'T retain multiple layers of quotes--if you're quoting more > than two levels deep, you're quoting too much. > > o DON'T quote sigs, unless you're explicitly commenting on them. > > o DON'T play word games--quoting encourages discussion about > wording over discussion of ideas, so resist the urge to dissect > language for ambiguities and contradictions. > >5: FOR SALE and WANTED posts belong on in rec.arts.comics.marketplace. > One-line pointers in sigs are acceptable elsewhere. > >6: No binaries. > > o Do not post binaries to any group without binaries in the name. > A binary is a picture, video clip, audio clip, executable etc.-- > essentially anything other than plain text. > > o Do not ask where you can get cool scans of character X. Check > the web instead. Keep in mine that cool scans of character X > are illegal theft of intellectual property under most > circumstances and some people take intellectual property rights > very seriously--usually including the artist who did the art > for that cool scan. >-- >"When even one American--who has done nothing wrong--is forced by fear to shut >his mind and close his mouth, then all Americans are in peril."--Harry S Truman > >elmo (morrow@physics.rice.edu,morrow@fnal.fnal.gov) From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon May 6 15:19:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id OAA06830 for sonic-ll; Mon, 6 May 1996 14:39:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tsb.weschke.com (foxfire@tsb.weschke.com [204.91.224.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id OAA06821 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 14:39:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from foxfire@localhost) by tsb.weschke.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id OAA20780; Mon, 6 May 1996 14:38:40 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 14:38:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Forsyth To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: PC Version of Sonic the Hedgehog In-Reply-To: <3113DE0A.438A@usa.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Sat, 3 Feb 1996, Jim Graba wrote: > Hey everybody! > While looking at an on-line catalog, I came across a PC version of Sonic the > Hedgehog AND a screen saver! Here's the descriptions: > > SKU: 49921 > Title: SONIC W95! REL 06/14/96 RTL > UPC: 010086850154 > > Category Format Price > -------------------------- > ENT W95 $ 41 > > Description: Everyone's favorite Hedgehog(and one of the worlds best sell ing characters) > is now on the PC. Sonic battles Dr. > Robotnik latest evil creation, Metal Sonic, in a race to save the world. Sonic Embarks on > an important mission: rescue his friends > Princess Sally and retrieve the Time Stones before Robotnik can. REQ: Windows 95, Pentium > processor, 60mhz, 8mb ram, SVGA > 256 color graphics, double speed CDROM drive, 8mb hard disk space, 16 bit audio, sound > card, keyboard, gamepad, joystick or > mouse. > Heh--Sonic CD ported for PC. Any clue if they have an Amiga port of that anywhere? Might be an incentive to actually get a CD-ROM drive. ;-) Chris Forsyth From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon May 6 15:58:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA10578 for sonic-ll; Mon, 6 May 1996 15:06:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tsb.weschke.com (foxfire@tsb.weschke.com [204.91.224.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id PAA10573 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 15:06:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from foxfire@localhost) by tsb.weschke.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id PAA21126; Mon, 6 May 1996 15:06:25 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 15:06:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Forsyth To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic X-Treme 4 Saturn Review In-Reply-To: <199605050144.VAA11924@mime2.prodigy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Sat, 4 May 1996, THADDEUS BOYD wrote: > >Keepers of the six magical Rings of Order, and the castle wherein they > >practice the anchient art of ring smithing, > > > >(Another note from me: THEY do ring smithing? But I thought Chuck > >was the only one... hmmmmm....) > > Well, as I've explained in at least two of my stories (The Hunt Begins and > Jaded Views come to mind), there are several types of rings, including > Magic Rings, Power Rings, Teleportation Rings, and Kabuki's Jaded Ring (the > significance of which, for those who haven't figured it out, will be > revealed in my next story, Ground Zero). > >< > This brings to mind something I've been pondering a while. In the games, we have all these rings all over the place just hanging there to be grabbed. In the cartoon, and many fanfics (not *quite* sure what Archie is planning to use as the ring origon) we have the rings made by Uncle Chuck (who, for a guy who's best known for his chili dogs, is apparently a super-genius physicist and engineer). The difference, and the solution, though, is fairly simple--the rings that occur in the zones are *Magic* rings, likely a by-product of the same source that produces the chaos emeralds (which are another whole ball of wax, considering that the games and such have only 12 emeralds (6 regular and 6 'super'), but the fanfics and the comic have them by the truckloads. ;-) )--however, the ones made by Uncle Chuck are always called *Power* Rings...possibly an attempt to duplicate or harness magic rings? Anyway, that's my two Mobians on the subject... Chris Forsyth From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 18:14:45 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA28964 for sonic-ll; Tue, 7 May 1996 15:10:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com (emout14.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.40]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA28931 for ; Tue, 7 May 1996 15:10:14 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA29880 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Tue, 7 May 1996 15:09:43 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 15:09:43 -0400 Message-ID: <960507150941_108546493@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Maybe because they're different species......< Mike and I have had many, many discussions about this topic. Subsequently, for everyone's sakes, we've decided to leave this one alone. If anyone asks, we tell 'im the stork brought the kids and leave it at that. Now, if you're willing to entertain the thought of in-vitro fertilization.... Ken From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 18:23:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAB20010 for sonic-ll; Mon, 6 May 1996 23:50:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhost1.primenet.com (mailhost1.primenet.com [198.68.32.51]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA20005 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 23:50:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from primenet.com (rotor@usr06.primenet.com [198.68.32.16]) by mailhost1.primenet.com (8.7.3/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA22526 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 20:50:37 -0700 (MST) Received: (from rotor@localhost) by primenet.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA06220; Mon, 6 May 1996 20:50:36 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 20:50:36 -0700 (MST) From: Dave Pistone To: Sonic Mailing List Subject: Note to Sonic FanFic authors Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Greetings again. You may or may not be aware that I'm currently int the process of establishing a Telnetable Furry BBS. To this end, I'll be posting all of the Sonic fanfic stories I have in my posession on this board. If any author out there objects to this, please contatct me at your earliest convenience. See ya later. +----------------------------------------+----------------------------------+ |David M. Pistone | | |The 100% Furry and Anime Maniac!!! | The Rat's Nest: | | | bookshire@rat.org | |WWW: http://rat.org/bookshire | | +----------------------------------------+ Glendale Community College: | | __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ | 67116@ef.gc.maricopa.edu | | /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / +----------------------------------+ | / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ / rotor@primenet.com | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 18:26:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA12950 for sonic-ll; Mon, 6 May 1996 22:04:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.airmail.net (server-f.iadfw.net [206.66.12.40]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA12945 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 22:04:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.73) id ; Mon, 6 May 96 21:04:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 May 96 21:04:51 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: lca254@mail.airmail.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: lca254@airmail.net (Lu Cananza) Subject: Re: PC Version of Sonic the Hedgehog Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >On Sat, 3 Feb 1996, Jim Graba wrote: > >> Hey everybody! >> While looking at an on-line catalog, I came across a PC version of Sonic the >> Hedgehog AND a screen saver! Here's the descriptions: >> >> SKU: 49921 >> Title: SONIC W95! REL 06/14/96 RTL >> UPC: 010086850154 >> >> Category Format Price >> -------------------------- >> ENT W95 $ 41 >> >> Description: Everyone's favorite Hedgehog(and one of the worlds best sell ing characters) >> is now on the PC. Sonic battles Dr. >> Robotnik latest evil creation, Metal Sonic, in a race to save the world. Sonic Embarks on >> an important mission: rescue his friends >> Princess Sally and retrieve the Time Stones before Robotnik can. REQ: Windows 95, Pentium >> processor, 60mhz, 8mb ram, SVGA >> 256 color graphics, double speed CDROM drive, 8mb hard disk space, 16 bit audio, sound >> card, keyboard, gamepad, joystick or >> mouse. >> > > Heh--Sonic CD ported for PC. Any clue if they have an Amiga port of >that anywhere? Might be an incentive to actually get a CD-ROM drive. ;-) > > Chris Forsyth > > > From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 18:37:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA08941 for sonic-ll; Mon, 6 May 1996 21:04:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from echo.i-link.net (echo.i-link.net [199.172.8.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA22245 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 17:31:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from austin-1-15.i-link.net by echo.i-link.net (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA30219; Mon, 6 May 1996 16:30:29 -0500 X-Sender: toneross@austin.i-link.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 16:34:27 -0600 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: toneross@i-link.net (Jessica Ross) Subject: Re: Sonic X-Treme 4 Saturn Review Cc: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 03:06 PM 5/6/96, Chris Forsyth wrote: >On Sat, 4 May 1996, THADDEUS BOYD wrote: > >> >Keepers of the six magical Rings of Order, and the castle wherein they >> >practice the anchient art of ring smithing, >> > >> >(Another note from me: THEY do ring smithing? But I thought Chuck >> >was the only one... hmmmmm....) >> >> Well, as I've explained in at least two of my stories (The Hunt Begins and >> Jaded Views come to mind), there are several types of rings, including >> Magic Rings, Power Rings, Teleportation Rings, and Kabuki's Jaded Ring (the >> significance of which, for those who haven't figured it out, will be >> revealed in my next story, Ground Zero). >> >< >> > > This brings to mind something I've been pondering a while. In the >games, we have all these rings all over the place just hanging there to >be grabbed. In the cartoon, and many fanfics (not *quite* sure what >Archie is planning to use as the ring origon) we have the rings made by >Uncle Chuck (who, for a guy who's best known for his chili dogs, is >apparently a super-genius physicist and engineer). > The difference, and the solution, though, is fairly simple--the >rings that occur in the zones are *Magic* rings, likely a by-product of >the same source that produces the chaos emeralds (which are another whole >ball of wax, considering that the games and such have only 12 emeralds (6 >regular and 6 'super'), but the fanfics and the comic have them by the >truckloads. ;-) )--however, the ones made by Uncle Chuck are always >called *Power* Rings...possibly an attempt to duplicate or harness magic >rings? Anyway, that's my two Mobians on the subject... > Chris Forsyth You have a point there, Meester. According to Sonic #35, magic rings are like a side path off the chaos emeralds.......and power rings are made......somebody help me here, this is so confusing....................... From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 18:38:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id MAA14711 for sonic-ll; Tue, 7 May 1996 12:13:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA14706 for ; Tue, 7 May 1996 12:13:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA24241; Tue, 7 May 1996 12:13:12 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id MAA19662; Tue, 7 May 1996 12:13:18 -0400 Message-Id: <199605071613.MAA19662@edmund> Subject: Sonic #36 (for FAQ; w/SPOILERS) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 12:13:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net [more than the usual SPOILER protection] #36 [July 1996] Spaziante cover art -- the castle and carved gates don't figure into the story, but who cares? Another masterpiece. Heart of Darkness (3 parts) Story: Ken Penders; Art: Art Mawhinney HOYOTOHO! No, Rotor hasn't tuned into Bayreuth to watch the Flight of the Valkyrie. What he DOES have is a "live" remote from the "Zone of Silence." Isn't that the same thing as "The Void"? After about 5 panels of explanation, some of the readers of this list still seem uncertain on this point. All I know is, it bears no resemblance to the Void featured in the TV ep of the same name. In any event, the fact that it isn't the Void is offered up by Rotor as a way of explaining why previous attempts to travel there and back again were so easy. But in a more important complication, there are serious power reading coming from Robotropolis. Sonic goes to investigate, and arrives to find Snively at the controls of some kind of beam generator which reminds me too much of the climax of "All Good Things...", the final ep of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" (now that Ken Penders has revealed himself to have worked on Star Trek comics I'm keeping my copy of the _Star Trek Encyclopedia_ close at hand to check for references, though the STE as a reference work suffers from flaws that range from annoying to unforgivable. But I digress...). Sonic arrives and takes the device out of commission, and Robotnik congratulates him on endangering all of Mobius. Cue the flashback for Sonic's (and our) benefit: Seems that when Robotnik took over eleven years ago, he wanted to use the Zone of Silence developed by his "mentor" Kodos as a sort of interdimensional concentration camp. Unfortunately, once he sent King Acorn there he realized that it was unstable and would absorb Mobius. Subjecting the thing to a steady stream from a photon cannon managed to keep it in check, but with the cannon destroyed by Sonic alternative measures have to be taken. Robotnik gives Sonic an "energy inhibitor" which bears a striking resemblance to a household bug bomb. He convinces Sonic to detonate it within the Zone; despite serious reservations, Sonic, Sally, Tails, and Antoine enter the Zone, which basically looks like Space, The Final Frontier(tm). There, they confront the dark rider flanked by some characters who look like they belong in a game of Doom. Sonic dispatches these bit players, but before the rider/knight/whatever can draw a bead on Sonic, Sally intervenes. In the struggle, she knocks off his helmet and reveals him to be...what the heck, someone of the list has already spilled the beans...King Acorn!!! Or a reasonable facsimile thereof. Actually, he's not that reasonable, for he gives Sally a quick jolt with his lance for her troubles. In response, Sonic detonates the bug bomb -- don't ask me what the practical results were because they're never spelled out. Rotor manages to drag the Mobians back through the portal before they overshoot it, and a shaken and subdued Sally is probably thinking that now she knows how Luke Skywalker must have felt at the end of "The Empire Strikes Back." To be continued, somewhere along the way. And to think it was only three issues ago that we were witnesses to some of the lamest excuses for storytelling ever, even for the medium of comic books. The improvement, both in terms of complexity and emotional impact, has been quantum. Major kudos for both artwork and story. So, does anyone besides me think that that WASN'T Sally's father wearing that armor? Not only did the Zone bear no resemblance to the Void, but in the two TV eps where Sally and her father were reunited ["Blast To The Past, Part 1" and "The Void"] Sally's father didn't fail to recognize her. That didn't happen this time, which makes it all just a little too unconvincing. I'm also haunted by Robotnik's aside on page 9 about Sonic doing his "dirty work" for him. It leaves me with the strong impression that Robotnik knew precisely what effect the bug bomb would have in the Zone. So the question remains: whom did Sonic destroy? Possible candidates: A. the real King Acorn B. Kodos as King Acorn C. a parallel King Acorn (cf. "Night of a Thousand Sonics") D. None of the above And judging from the effects of the bug bomb in the Zone, I feel pretty safe in saying that whoever it was was destroyed when it detonated. Which has major consequences from Sally's point of view: can she really feel close to the hedgehog who (she may believe) assassinated her father? I don't envy Ken Penders his job: this story's opened some major pitfalls and trap doors, and it's his burden to resolve matters plausibly (unlike the conclusion to "Growing Pains"). Stay tuned; you can bet I will! "A Sense of History: Part 3" Story: Mike Kanterovich and Ken Penders/Art: Ken Penders No wonder Ken P. has been waiting for this review! Let's recap the story to date: Dmitri has just used the "chaos siphon" to trash eleven of the 12 Chaos Emeralds that hold up the floating island. He has taken his brother and some of the leaders of echidna society prisoner. He has already directed the resident "mecha-nauts" to enslave the populace, and once the island is equipped with sails he plans to similarly conquer the rest of the planet. In the midst of this raving, however, it develops that his fortress Mt. Fate has been subverted from within: the foundation has been eroded by fire ants and the place starts collapsing. The imprisoned echidnas escape and Dmitri is buried beneath the rubble. The Magistrate gratuitously quotes from the Book of Proverbs and declares that Dmitri's end was as much a result of the society's trust in science resulting in hubris as it was Dmitri's own madness. This led to a certain overreaction as the echidnas destroyed their city and appointed a guardian over the last remaining emerald. Which, several generations later, turns out to be Knuckles. So what's this all have to do with the plot? (Remember the plot?) Knuckles suddenly starts putting it together: he remembers the words "Grand Conserve" from issue #31(!) and realizes that it refers to The Grand Conservatory, an underground warehouse where artifacts of echidna society were stored. He believes that this is where Archimedes (remember him?) is hiding out and where the missing Chaotix (remember them?) are being held. So, as Bill Cosby said in the course of one of his comedy routines: "I told you that story to tell you this one." And once more quoting his father (who was apparently named George Santayana) he reminds us of the plot and begins his segue to his miniseries (conveniently advertised on the facing page). WHEW! I know that this process took longer than anticipated, what with the addition of three 2-pagers over the course of three months, but Kanterovich & Penders came pretty darn close to losing the audience there. In any event, the ad for the miniseries pretty well telegraphs the plot based on what went before: Dmitri vs. Knuckles. BTW, I wouldn't make too much of the movie poster format. Sonic-Grams: Who was it that said "We buy the product so we can read about Sonic and Tails, not Scott and Paul." Oh, yeah, it was me...in my review of #29. Nice to know the Fredster is willing to listen; by keeping the Blue Blur front and center in the "office humor" section [drawn by Spaziante] he actually managed to come up with something funny! Senor Mendez limits himself to less than 2 column inches of self-introduction before going on to "what you really want to know: mainly Sonic the Hedgehog!" [By George, I think he's got it!] Topics: the launch of the Knuckles miniseries; a story titled "The Fall of Robotropolis" by DeCesare and Thomas (after his debut in "To Bot or Not To Bot" in #34); plus further developments on the King Acorn plot set up by "Heart of Darkness." Letters: Kim Wessels of Des Moines agrees with Tails that it's rough being treated like a kid. In answer to a barrage of questions, the person writing the replies pegs the birthdates of Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles to the release dates of the Sonic 1, 2 and 3 games respectively. However, he punts the question as to whether the TV series is still on the air -- this reply must have been locked in months ago, before the USA Network picked up Sonic's option. And in a major concession to the comic's popularity, there's a list of people who sent in letters and fan art that didn't get published but who still might love seeing their names in print. Fred, I like your style! Spaziante cover art for #37 shows Sonic holding a (lifeless?) Sally in his arms. Is it possible for Spaziante NOT to do a cool cover that involves Sally? Looks like the train is definitely back on the rails! Double-bag this puppy! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 20:39:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA22855 for sonic-ll; Tue, 7 May 1996 19:52:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from arl-img-4.compuserve.com (arl-img-4.compuserve.com [198.4.7.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA22850 for ; Tue, 7 May 1996 19:52:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by arl-img-4.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id TAA19624; Tue, 7 May 1996 19:51:28 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 19:51:08 -0400 From: Brian Ellis Subject: Sonic #36 To: "sonic@lists.mv.net sonic@lists.mv.net" Message-ID: <199605071951_MC1-3EB-26FF@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hello everyone. Does anyone know why that in Sonic #36 that it the comic runs a completely different storyline then the ABC cartoon used to be? Now that the series is completely cancelled (which is sad) and the comic is the only Sonic the Hedgehog fandom that is still going, doesn't it still seems strange that Ken Penders is just rambling on in his scripts? There is also another mention to a Sonic the Hedgehog movie. In the Sonic Grams section, someone sent a letter saying that it would be way past cool if there was a Sonic Movie. The response was simply "I hope so. It would be way, way past cool." In the earlier issues, it made mentions that one might be in the works. This doesn't seem to add to it though. Anyone know anything about this? -Brian Ellis From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 21:31:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA29022 for sonic-ll; Tue, 7 May 1996 21:15:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bigboote.WPI.EDU (root@bigboote.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA29006 for ; Tue, 7 May 1996 21:15:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wpi.WPI.EDU (tedp@wpi.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.6]) by bigboote.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA18027; Tue, 7 May 1996 21:14:58 -0400 From: Theodore Patri Perrotti Received: (from tedp@localhost) by wpi.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.8.Alpha.1) id VAA22832; Tue, 7 May 1996 21:14:57 -0400 Message-Id: <199605080114.VAA22832@wpi.WPI.EDU> Subject: Re: Sonic #36 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 21:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tedp@WPI.EDU (Theodore Patri Perrotti) In-Reply-To: <199605071951_MC1-3EB-26FF@compuserve.com> from "Brian Ellis" at May 7, 96 07:51:08 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net This is in response to the question why does the comic's storyline differ from that of the ABC show. As much as I love the ABC Sonic, I don't expect the Sonic comic to follow it. Why not? The comic and the ABC cartoon are two separate continuities, always have been, always will be (probably). Why should the comic be just like the ABC cartoon? Just my opinion. ps-I would've quoted the message I'm replying to, but for some reason, elm kept screwing up the word wrapping on it and I didn't feel like fixing it manually. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) perrottit.mbr@asme.org Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester Polytechnic Institute ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 22:00:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA29492 for sonic-ll; Tue, 7 May 1996 21:29:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com (emout18.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.44]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA29487 for ; Tue, 7 May 1996 21:29:27 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA09326 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Tue, 7 May 1996 21:28:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 21:28:55 -0400 Message-ID: <960507212854_393185680@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic #36 (for FAQ; w/SPOILERS) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Dan, Two points regarding your review: As I stated elsewhere, I was operating from the ABC Saturday Morning TV series bible which stated King Acorn was trapped in something called the Zone of Silence. I have always been consistent with this. Check back with SONIC #24 as proof. Further, I also went on to state that I didn't have the luxury of seeing either part of BLAST FROM THE PAST. I did have scripts to work from, but I'm not sure if these were the final drafts or not. My son also called me on the carpet for some (apparent) inconsistencies. All I can say, issue #41 explains much and maintains continuity as established in the comic, but it isn't until #43 that I re-establish continuity with the animated series on some points. One other thing: that is indeed the REAL King Acorn. You'll just have to wait until #41 for the lowdown. (It was originally scheduled for #38.) Ken From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 22:11:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA29965 for sonic-ll; Tue, 7 May 1996 21:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com (emout13.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.39]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA29959 for ; Tue, 7 May 1996 21:41:04 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA11202 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Tue, 7 May 1996 21:40:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 21:40:27 -0400 Message-ID: <960507214025_289365865@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic #36 Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >There is also another mention to a Sonic the Hedgehog movie. In the Sonic Grams section, someone sent a letter saying that it would be way past cool if there was a Sonic Movie. The response was simply "I hope so. It would be way, way past cool." In the earlier issues, it made mentions that one might be in the works. This doesn't seem to add to it though. Anyone know anything about this?< This may be adding fuel to the fire, but any hints about a SONIC movie from Archie were based information we were getting about a possible SONIC movie. In fact, Mike and I submitted a story where SONIC and the gang make a movie. We were told to put this one on hold so we could add an official announcement at the end. Maybe someday... Ken From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed May 8 10:09:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id JAA02695 for sonic-ll; Wed, 8 May 1996 09:44:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id JAA02675 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 09:43:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id IAA25652 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 08:36:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA08270; Wed, 8 May 1996 08:35:57 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id IAA22251; Wed, 8 May 1996 08:36:04 -0400 Message-Id: <199605081236.IAA22251@edmund> Subject: Re: Note to Sonic FanFic authors To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 08:36:03 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "Dave Pistone" at May 6, 96 08:50:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > > You may or may not be aware that I'm currently int the process of > establishing a Telnetable Furry BBS. To this end, I'll be posting all of > the Sonic fanfic stories I have in my posession on this board. > > If any author out there objects to this, please contatct me at your > earliest convenience. > I'd object...except I haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about! If it means my stories will have a wider audience, I'd like to go on record as saying I don't object in the slightest! ================================================================ || ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen || |\__-- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu || | / __ _ ||Sonic: "Whoa, you're not going to || //\ / \ /__ || use the L-word, are you?" || | o| 0|__ --_ ||Tails: "Well...." || \\____-- __ \ ___ - ||Sonic: "Then I will...I love you, || (@@ __/ / /_ || little bro." || -_____--- --_ ||AoStH: "Tails' New Home" ================================================================ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed May 8 10:35:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id JAA03507 for sonic-ll; Wed, 8 May 1996 09:49:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id JAA03469 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 09:49:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id IAA24249 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 08:24:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA07836; Wed, 8 May 1996 08:24:15 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id IAA21080; Wed, 8 May 1996 08:24:21 -0400 Message-Id: <199605081224.IAA21080@edmund> Subject: Re: Question for FAQ To: acme@use.usit.net (Erich Schulman) Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 08:24:21 -0400 (EDT) Cc: sonic@bort.mv.net In-Reply-To: from "Erich Schulman" at May 8, 96 00:06:55 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > > I think it's about time to include the presently-known information about > the possible Sonic movie in the FAQ. "Q"uestions about it are being > "F"requently "A"sked, so adding it will give us a place to refer people > to. Hmmmm, just what we need: another question without (yet) a real answer. > > > Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! > Good point, E. I'll include it in the FAQ File...as soon as someone puts up something I can USE! All the rumors began circulating because of some "announcement" in a video games magazine. The title may have been mentioned a couple times, but that was all. No article title, no mention of the author, no date, no page number, zip! I need solid documentation before I'll believe anything like that. Hey, if it's only a 1-2 sentence blurb somewhere, is it that much work to quote it in full instead of tying the BBS up in knots? ================================================================ || ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen || |\__-- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu || | / __ _ ||Sonic: "Whoa, you're not going to || //\ / \ /__ || use the L-word, are you?" || | o| 0|__ --_ ||Tails: "Well...." || \\____-- __ \ ___ - ||Sonic: "Then I will...I love you, || (@@ __/ / /_ || little bro." || -_____--- --_ ||AoStH: "Tails' New Home" ================================================================ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed May 8 23:51:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA09711 for sonic-ll; Wed, 8 May 1996 23:38:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA09706 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 23:38:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id XAA25225 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 23:38:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dANR (ppp14.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.44]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA04001 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 20:41:46 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 20:41:46 -0700 Message-Id: <199605090341.UAA04001@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Sonic #36 Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 07:51 PM 5/7/96 -0400, you wrote: > > Hello everyone. Does anyone know why that in Sonic #36 that it the comic runs a completely different storyline then the ABC cartoon used to be? Now that the series is completely cancelled (which is sad) and the comic is the only Sonic the Hedgehog fandom that is still going, doesn't it still seems strange that Ken Penders is just rambling on in his scripts? > > There is also another mention to a Sonic the Hedgehog movie. In the Sonic Grams section, someone sent a letter saying that it would be way past cool if there was a Sonic Movie. The response was simply "I hope so. It would be way, way past cool." In the earlier issues, it made mentions that one might be in the works. This doesn't seem to add to it though. Anyone know anything about this? > > -Brian Ellis > Hmmm. You must be new here. We talked about this earier this year. I'm not really going to go into detail here, but maybe someone else on the list can come up with something. -Chris Flinn Ciao! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu May 9 01:16:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id AAA22187 for sonic-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 00:30:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.com (en.com [204.89.181.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id AAA22181 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 00:30:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.en.com (mighty.en.net [206.148.90.46]) by en.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id AAA03568 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 00:38:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605090438.AAA03568@en.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Doug LoConti" To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 12:39:56 +0000 Subject: Chatacter jarboo Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Well, folks, I've gotton PLENTY of characters: thank you!!! :) -HOWEVER; I have school and work (and 6 hours of sleep) which occupy the majority of my day. THEREFORE please do not be sad if you do not see you stuff up there till' the weekend. It takes me MUCHO time to compose that stuff, and I can ONLY (usualy) do it on the weekends. AS A NOTE: the page will be updated this weekend, Sat or Sun most likely. Please take note! THanx all. -MiGHTY PS!!!!: kupu? From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu May 9 05:52:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id EAA01475 for sonic-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 04:47:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lin01.global.co.za (lin01.global.co.za [196.3.164.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id RAA14566 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 17:38:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anx_26.global.co.za (anx_26.global.co.za [196.3.164.76]) by lin01.global.co.za (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA10072 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 23:36:42 -0200 (GMT) Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 23:36:42 -0200 (GMT) Message-Id: <199605090136.XAA10072@lin01.global.co.za> X-Sender: ablater@mail.global.co.za X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: ablater@lin01.global.co.za (ablater) Subject: --!Appetiser!-- Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net 'ello 'ello 'ello! Ablater here, I thought I'd just drop you a small appetiser from my soon to come story: "SpringBoard: The poisoned strand" http://Lin01.global.co.za/~ablater/Sonic.html ^ |___ For a nifty piccy and a brief review. (Very Brief) Cheers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | /\ <> | | /--\ <> | | / \Blater of Crypto-Phobia. <> | | - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - \ http://lin01.global.co.za/~ablater/ / ----------------------------------------------- "MISSILE LOCK ; MISSILE DEPLOYED ; MASTER CAUTION" EJECT NOW [X] From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu May 9 09:36:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id IAA18174 for sonic-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 08:54:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA18168 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 08:54:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA02928; Thu, 9 May 1996 08:53:55 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id IAA12014; Thu, 9 May 1996 08:54:02 -0400 Message-Id: <199605091254.IAA12014@edmund> Subject: Re: Sonic #36 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 08:54:02 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <199605090341.UAA04001@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> from "Dan" at May 8, 96 08:41:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Just to bring you up to speed, keed: > > > Hello everyone. Does anyone know why that in Sonic #36 that it the > comic runs a completely different storyline then the ABC cartoon used to be? > Now that the series is completely cancelled (which is sad) and the comic is > the only Sonic the Hedgehog fandom that is still going, doesn't it still > seems strange that Ken Penders is just rambling on in his scripts? > > According to Ken P's posts, while Archie's writers may be supplied with scripts from the TV series, he himself had never seen any of the eps on TV (which, in any event, might not have been finished or aired when the story was in the Archie pipeline). He also says that his 8-year-old son is a major fan and kept him posted on the video developments. I think someone on the group offered to send him the 2nd season eps on tape for his edification. In any event, with the show in reruns and no new eps in production, that pretty much frees up the forces at Archie to take the story in their own direction. > > There is also another mention to a Sonic the Hedgehog movie. In the > Sonic Grams section, someone sent a letter saying that it would be way past > cool if there was a Sonic Movie. The response was simply "I hope so. It > would be way, way past cool." In the earlier issues, it made mentions that > one might be in the works. This doesn't seem to add to it though. Anyone > know anything about this? > > > > -Brian Ellis > > I already made it clear that I found the whole business frustrating. Nobody bothered to quote directly from the blurb that appeared in some video gamers mag (quote plus as full citation as possible would have been nice). Instead the whole thing kicked into rumor mode. Not cool. I'm STILL waiting for someone to post a direct quote with citation for inclusion in the FAQ File. ================================================================ || ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen || |\__-- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu || | / __ _ ||Sonic: "Whoa, you're not going to || //\ / \ /__ || use the L-word, are you?" || | o| 0|__ --_ ||Tails: "Well...." || \\____-- __ \ ___ - ||Sonic: "Then I will...I love you, || (@@ __/ / /_ || little bro." || -_____--- --_ ||AoStH: "Tails' New Home" ================================================================ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu May 9 12:39:59 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA00192 for sonic-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 11:23:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com (emout19.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.45]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA00187 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 11:23:39 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA01194 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Thu, 9 May 1996 11:23:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 11:23:08 -0400 Message-ID: <960509112307_394564811@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic #36 Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >> > There is also another mention to a Sonic the Hedgehog movie. In the > Sonic Grams section, someone sent a letter saying that it would be way past > cool if there was a Sonic Movie. The response was simply "I hope so. It > would be way, way past cool." In the earlier issues, it made mentions that > one might be in the works. This doesn't seem to add to it though. Anyone > know anything about this? > > > > -Brian Ellis > > I already made it clear that I found the whole business frustrating. Nobody bothered to quote directly from the blurb that appeared in some video gamers mag (quote plus as full citation as possible would have been nice). Instead the whole thing kicked into rumor mode. Not cool. I'm STILL waiting for someone to post a direct quote with citation for inclusion in the FAQ File.< This is frustrating, as I sent the following e-mail in response regarding this issue: This may be adding fuel to the fire, but any hints about a SONIC movie from Archie were based information we were getting about a possible SONIC movie. In fact, Mike and I submitted a story where SONIC and the gang make a movie. We were told to put this one on hold so we could add an official announcement at the end. Maybe someday... The problem is I keep receiving this message in response: Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to: s. fan club (The name was not found at the remote site. Check that the name has been entered correctly.) What is going on here? Hasn't anyone seen my last few posts? And if anyone has an answer for me how to correct this, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. Ken Penders From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu May 9 13:59:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA12538 for sonic-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 13:48:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA12530 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 13:48:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA16573; Thu, 9 May 1996 13:48:20 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id NAA12762; Thu, 9 May 1996 13:48:27 -0400 Message-Id: <199605091748.NAA12762@edmund> Subject: Re: Sonic #36 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 13:48:27 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <960509112307_394564811@emout19.mail.aol.com> from "KenP7672@aol.com" at May 9, 96 11:23:08 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > > [Snively, turn off the Delete-O-Matic!] > This is frustrating, as I sent the following e-mail in response regarding > this issue: > > This may be adding fuel to the fire, but any hints about a SONIC movie from > Archie were based information we were getting about a possible SONIC movie. > In fact, Mike and I submitted a story where SONIC and the gang make a movie. > We were told to put this one on hold so we could add an official announcement > at the end. Maybe someday... > > The problem is I keep receiving this message in response: > > Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to: > > s. fan club (The name was not found at the remote site. Check that the name > has been entered correctly.) > > What is going on here? Hasn't anyone seen my last few posts? And if anyone > has an answer for me how to correct this, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. > > Ken Penders > Et tu, Ken? Near as I can tell, the original message must have been posted by someone with the "s. fan club" designation in their address and repeated replies to the message in the string keep running into the same roadblock. Your post about a suggested filmmaking storyline DID make it through, I recall. Best suggestion I can give: do a straight send to the list rather than a reply. That should start things over with a clean string. Then again I don't know all that much about computers; I just USE 'em! ================================================================ || ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen || |\__-- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu || | / __ _ ||Sonic: "Whoa, you're not going to || //\ / \ /__ || use the L-word, are you?" || | o| 0|__ --_ ||Tails: "Well...." || \\____-- __ \ ___ - ||Sonic: "Then I will...I love you, || (@@ __/ / /_ || little bro." || -_____--- --_ ||AoStH: "Tails' New Home" ================================================================ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 01:28:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA05279 for sonic-ll; Fri, 10 May 1996 15:39:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dub-img-7.compuserve.com (dub-img-7.compuserve.com [198.4.9.8]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA05273 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 15:39:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dub-img-7.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id PAA17109; Fri, 10 May 1996 15:38:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 15:39:24 -0400 From: Brian Ellis Subject: Reply to: Sonic #36 To: "sonic@bort.mv.net sonic@bort.mv.net" Message-ID: <199605101538_MC1-3CD-62E3@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Ken Penders, (Sorry, I don't have a quoting program) I've been having the same problems with it saying [s. cannot find address] or something like that. I have been recieving your last posts so your mail is still being delivered. -Brian Ellis From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 01:28:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA22896 for sonic-ll; Fri, 10 May 1996 19:07:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server.northernnet.com ([206.24.45.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA22888 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 19:07:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME ([206.24.63.53]) by server.northernnet.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA02568 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 18:07:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3193E7F5.114F@northernnet.com> Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 18:05:57 -0700 From: "C.Woods" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: To Anyone within the sound of my voice... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Time short. . . . I'd like to have the 26 shows of "Sonic" the SatAM Series, willing to pay resonable price if they're in good quality. Help anybody. . . . . From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 01:49:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA15626 for sonic-ll; Fri, 10 May 1996 17:42:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id RAA15621 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 17:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iwaynet.iwaynet.net ([198.30.29.7]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id RAA28158 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 17:41:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailbox.iwaynet.net ([206.244.42.15]) by iwaynet.iwaynet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA16682 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 17:38:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 17:38:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605102138.RAA16682@iwaynet.iwaynet.net> X-Sender: eggleton@iwaynet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Sonic@bort.mv.net From: "Knuck's/Kulock" Subject: EEP Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net PLEASE IGNORE that last msg by me..it was a personal one that got forwarded upon accident..:P..so sorry.. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 01:55:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA12942 for sonic-ll; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:51:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iwaynet.iwaynet.net (iwaynet.iwaynet.net [198.30.29.7]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id QAA12928 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:51:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailbox.iwaynet.net ([206.244.42.23]) by iwaynet.iwaynet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA13287 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:48:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 16:48:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605102048.QAA13287@iwaynet.iwaynet.net> X-Sender: eggleton@iwaynet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: "Knuck's/Kulock" Subject: Re: New Sonic page Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Heya, Fangero :) Haven't seen you much on FT recently, just keep missing I guess..:P :) Just a small update, Sally and I recently...made peace *GASP!* Well, this kind of has NO point, but wanted to share a nice little story with you :)..it's attached... Laterz, Maxi! :) -Knuck's/Kulock/Amy_Rose/Kurune/Trek/Fox_McCloud/Bunnie_Rabbot/Tr...ack..too many :P From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 01:55:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA27988 for sonic-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 16:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com (emout15.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.41]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA27979 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 16:28:32 -0400 (EDT) From: DGonterman@aol.com Received: by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA17008 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Thu, 9 May 1996 16:27:58 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 16:27:58 -0400 Message-ID: <960509162757_487708848@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Finally got Sonic 36... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net And I now see the point in Paul asking me to change the short version to work with the Archie Comic. (Unlike the majority of you, I don't read the spoilers.) Acorn getting amnesia's really put a crimp on things.... Oh, well, it's a good excuse to re-do my comic anyway. Anybody's got a pic of Nagus? I think I'll use him in the remake. As for the origional comic, I don't know. I don't think I can put it on my Furry Archive....oh, well. Of course, the origional Blood and Metal story is still on my page: http://users.aol.com/dgonterman Dave From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 01:57:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA10146 for sonic-ll; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:33:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dub-img-5.compuserve.com (dub-img-5.compuserve.com [198.4.9.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA10141 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:33:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dub-img-5.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id QAA07493; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:33:15 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 16:32:44 -0400 From: Brian Ellis Subject: Reply to: Re: Sonic #36 To: Chris Flinn Message-ID: <199605101633_MC1-407-E901@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Hmmm. You must be new here. We talked about this earier this year. I'm >not really going to go into detail here, but maybe someone else on the list >can come up with something. > -Chris Flinn > Ciao! Yes, I am new here. I forgot to introduce myself in my message. I'm sorry that I cannot be able to see the current conversation that is going or has already been explained. But time will take that away. Anyways, has anyone seen Knuckle #1 yet? I've just recently bought it and it looks alright. The map near the end of it is a great addition to explaining the island. -Brian Ellis From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 01:59:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA11596 for sonic-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 18:52:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bigboote.WPI.EDU (root@bigboote.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA11591 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 18:52:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wpi.WPI.EDU (tedp@wpi.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.6]) by bigboote.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA03212; Thu, 9 May 1996 18:52:02 -0400 From: Theodore Patri Perrotti Received: (from tedp@localhost) by wpi.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.8.Alpha.1) id SAA02881; Thu, 9 May 1996 18:52:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199605092252.SAA02881@wpi.WPI.EDU> Subject: Re: Sonic #36 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 18:52:01 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tedp@WPI.EDU (Theodore Patri Perrotti) In-Reply-To: <960509112307_394564811@emout19.mail.aol.com> from "KenP7672@aol.com" at May 9, 96 11:23:08 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > I already made it clear that I found the whole business frustrating. > Nobody bothered to quote directly from the blurb that appeared in some > video gamers mag (quote plus as full citation as possible would have > been nice). Instead the whole thing kicked into rumor mode. Not cool. > I'm STILL waiting for someone to post a direct quote with citation for > inclusion in the FAQ File.< > > This is frustrating, as I sent the following e-mail in response regarding > this issue: > > The problem is I keep receiving this message in response: > > Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to: > > s. fan club (The name was not found at the remote site. Check that the name > has been entered correctly.) > > What is going on here? Hasn't anyone seen my last few posts? And if anyone > has an answer for me how to correct this, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. > > Ken Penders I've been getting this message, too. I've e-mailed Eric Shulman about it, and he's trying to track down the problem. Your posts have been getting through to the list just fine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) perrottit.mbr@asme.org Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester Polytechnic Institute ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 01:59:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA11153 for sonic-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 18:49:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA11148 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 18:49:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dANR (ppp16.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.46]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA17781 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 15:52:44 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 15:52:44 -0700 Message-Id: <199605092252.PAA17781@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Sonic #36 Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > >The problem is I keep receiving this message in response: > >Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to: > >s. fan club (The name was not found at the remote site. Check that the name >has been entered correctly.) > >What is going on here? Hasn't anyone seen my last few posts? And if anyone >has an answer for me how to correct this, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. > >Ken Penders > > > I'm getting that, too. And it's really pissing me off. I just trash it as soon as I see Mialer Daimon (however you spell it.) Yes, Ken, I do see this. Anyway, this is getting a little off subject, so I'll leave it at that. -Chris Flinn a.k.a. Speed (or boy or whatever) Outta here! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 02:28:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id CAA28947 for sonic-ll; Sat, 11 May 1996 02:07:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA28942 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 02:07:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mime2.prodigy.com ([192.168.253.26]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id CAA113050 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 02:06:13 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by mime2.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) id CAA16616 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sat, 11 May 1996 02:04:49 -0400 Message-Id: <199605110604.CAA16616@mime2.prodigy.com> X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm02sc02 From: AHVT94B@prodigy.com ( THADDEUS BOYD) Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 02:04:49, -0500 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic X-Treme 4 Saturn Review Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >> Well, as I've explained in at least two of my stories (The Hunt Begins >and >> Jaded Views come to mind), there are several types of rings, including >> Magic Rings, Power Rings, Teleportation Rings, and Kabuki's Jaded Ring >(the >> significance of which, for those who haven't figured it out, will be >> revealed in my next story, Ground Zero). >> >< >> > > This brings to mind something I've been pondering a while. In the >games, we have all these rings all over the place just hanging there to >be grabbed. In the cartoon, and many fanfics (not *quite* sure what >Archie is planning to use as the ring origon) we have the rings made by >Uncle Chuck (who, for a guy who's best known for his chili dogs, is >apparently a super-genius physicist and engineer). > The difference, and the solution, though, is fairly simple--the >rings that occur in the zones are *Magic* rings, likely a by-product of >the same source that produces the chaos emeralds (which are another whole >ball of wax, considering that the games and such have only 12 emeralds (6 >regular and 6 'super'), but the fanfics and the comic have them by the >truckloads. ;-) )--however, the ones made by Uncle Chuck are always >called *Power* Rings...possibly an attempt to duplicate or harness magic >rings? Anyway, that's my two Mobians on the subject... > Chris Forsyth EXACTLY. Oh, and FYI, there are *14* Emeralds in the games (15, counting the Master Emerald), not just 12. As for the thing about thousands of Emeralds mentioned in the comix, that kinda stymied my ideas for a bit, but I've worked out an explanation for THAT, too. If I ever get around to posting my interpretation of the early years of Mobius (a la The Silmarillion, by JRR Tolkien), all will be revealed... >< 'Nuff Said. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 10:06:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id JAA27716 for sonic-ll; Sat, 11 May 1996 09:46:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id JAA27678 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 09:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from COMPAQ ([203.120.82.170]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA15012 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 21:46:32 +0800 X-Sender: prower@po.pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: prower@pacific.net.sg (Aaron Lye Soon Choy) Subject: FYI : Sonic Fan Fiction Archives Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 21:46:32 +0800 Message-ID: <19960511134631.AAA15012@COMPAQ> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net For your information , the Fan Fiction Archives run by me will not be updated for the next few days , for several reasons . Anyway , any inconvenience caused is regretted ( in other words , sorry ! :) ) , and I will inform this list when it is back up and running again . Later ______________________________________________________________________________ Aaron "Prower" Lye Maintainer , Sonic Fan Fiction Archives E-mail : prower@pacific.net.sg The Sonic Fan Fiction Archives : http://home.pacific.net.sg/~prower IRC Nick : TailsProw ______________________________________________________________________________ StH JJ1 WkS+++ Son++ Sal++ Tal+++t Bun++" Rot~ Ant++ Nic+ Dul+ UnC0 Bks+ Rbk0 Snv--/+ Knu+ Mut+ P+ Dwf $+++ E27 Ay78 GM ______________________________________________________________________________ Think : Say "miles per hour" fast . What do you get ? Miles Prower ! I'm guessing everyone knows this by now.... ______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue May 14 08:42:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA15083 for sonic-ll; Mon, 13 May 1996 17:26:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (rat@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA15073; Mon, 13 May 1996 17:26:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 17:26:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: the funny kiss! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net New on rat.org. An AVI captured from the Sat. AM show of Sally kissing Tails again and again. Ahh, what a lucky fox. http://rat.org/pub/sonic/movies/funykis1.zip (1.6 megs) From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed May 15 00:44:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA02910 for sonic-ll; Tue, 14 May 1996 18:23:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA02875 for ; Tue, 14 May 1996 18:23:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id SAA06124 for ; Tue, 14 May 1996 18:18:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (ppp9.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.39]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA24633 for ; Tue, 14 May 1996 15:22:06 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960514221728.00664a04@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 15:17:28 -0700 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: working? Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hi. I'm having some trouble with my server. I was just wondering if this thing works. If it is, please EMAIL ME PRIVATELY. Thanks. -Chris F. dflinn@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed May 15 01:43:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA21489 for sonic-ll; Tue, 14 May 1996 21:09:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.airmail.net (server-f.iadfw.net [206.66.12.40]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA21484 for ; Tue, 14 May 1996 21:09:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.73) id ; Tue, 14 May 96 20:09:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 May 96 20:09:02 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: lca254@mail.airmail.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: lca254@airmail.net (Lu Cananza) Subject: Re: First, second car... ?! Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Um.. what was that car thing about? > >Hi From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu May 16 00:30:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA08372 for sonic-ll; Wed, 15 May 1996 20:11:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (rat@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA08365; Wed, 15 May 1996 20:10:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 20:10:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: more tails Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Eric Goodwin has captured yet another AVI for us. http://rat.org/pub/sonic/movies/funykis2.zip ( 2.8 megs) It's the real Sally this time, kissing Tails, hugging Tails, then kissing Sonic. It's so cute. :) From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu May 16 00:31:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id OAA25273 for sonic-ll; Wed, 15 May 1996 14:12:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns2.ac.edu (NS2.ac.edu [134.224.1.29]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA25261 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 14:12:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jaguar.ac.edu by ns2.ac.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24921; Wed, 15 May 96 14:18:08 EDT Received: by jaguar.ac.edu (wcGATE v4) id 34027W Wed, 15 May 1996 18:11:52 GMT From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) Subject: Finally... I hope. Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 16:57:12 GMT Message-Id: <96051514115262010@jaguar.ac.edu> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net hope I did it right... The complete version of OtherSonics-The Barbarian has been uploaded to the sonic site. Hopefully, it did arrive there (bleeding college newsreader kept arguing with me), and people will stop hounding me. (: rob From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu May 16 00:49:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA01798 for sonic-ll; Wed, 15 May 1996 15:06:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id PAA01784 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 15:06:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA26494 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 15:10:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 15:10:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605151910.PAA26494@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@underdog.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Max Maus Subject: Re: the funny kiss! Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 05:26 PM 5/13/96 -0400, you wrote: >New on rat.org. >An AVI captured from the Sat. AM show of Sally kissing Tails again and again. >Ahh, what a lucky fox. heh. Sexy furry videos, huh? "Ratman's carryin' spooge!!! :G: :) :) :) ------------------------------------------ Max_Maus on Furtoonia, FurryMuck, and SPR E-mail: max@maxie.com WWW: http://www.maxie.com/~max Swat Kats! http://megakat.maxie.com Care Bears! http://www.maxie.com/carebears ------------------------------------------ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu May 16 00:52:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA17420 for sonic-ll; Wed, 15 May 1996 13:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA17413 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 13:11:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA29484; Wed, 15 May 1996 13:10:58 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id NAA13379; Wed, 15 May 1996 13:10:59 -0400 Message-Id: <199605151710.NAA13379@edmund> Subject: Stop The Rumor! To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 13:10:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Consider this a formal request: Whoever read the notice in the gaming magazine about a Sonic movie, PLEASE post (either to me privately or to the board) what you read and where you read it. I want to incorporate it into a question for the FAQ File and I can't do it until I have a direct quote with source footnote (yeah, that boring term paper stuff). Whoever posts the information WILL be credited by name in the FAQ File. Thank you. ================================================================ || ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen || |\__-- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu || | / __ _ ||Sonic: "Whoa, you're not going to || //\ / \ /__ || use the L-word, are you?" || | o| 0|__ --_ ||Tails: "Well...." || \\____-- __ \ ___ - ||Sonic: "Then I will...I love you, || (@@ __/ / /_ || little bro." || -_____--- --_ ||AoStH: "Tails' New Home" ================================================================ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu May 16 01:39:03 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA02075 for sonic-ll; Wed, 15 May 1996 23:52:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from northernnet.com ([206.24.45.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA02067 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 23:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME ([206.24.63.54]) by northernnet.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA16502 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 22:53:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <319AC271.2DE9@northernnet.com> Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 22:51:45 -0700 From: "C.WOODS" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sonic@bort.mv.net" Subject: Sonic badnik. . . . . Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net What were the names of those bothersome laserlight bugs that you meet just before Robotnik in the last stage of the Sonic CD?(It counts because it's research material) C.W. Fav lines Sonic: Hold it, Tails, I'm still not sure that's the real Sal. Sally: Oh yeah? Well, I guess I'll have to prove it! --Sonic and Sally, the epilogue. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu May 16 03:58:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id BAA27760 for sonic-ll; Thu, 16 May 1996 01:57:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from saul7.u.washington.edu (lazuli@saul7.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA27755 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 01:57:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by saul7.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23124; Wed, 15 May 96 22:57:03 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 22:57:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Michael Sloniker To: Sonic the Hedgehog Mailing List Subject: Regarding the FunnyKiss2.avi... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net ...my AVI player won't play it. "Cannot find vids:IV41 decompressor" it says. Anybody know where I can find this? (I'm using Windows 3.1's media player.) ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer lazuli@u.washington.edu Fred's Fourth Law: It *must* be art. *I* don't understand it. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu May 16 07:26:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id FAA14152 for sonic-ll; Thu, 16 May 1996 05:55:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sun1.clark.net (sun1.clark.net [198.17.243.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id FAA14147 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 05:55:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ba.com (ba.com [198.5.6.1]) by sun1.clark.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id FAA11599 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 05:55:13 -0400 Received: from sirkain.mns.inc.com (sirkain.mnsinc.com [206.239.33.181]) by ba.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA13289 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 04:53:44 GMT Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 04:53:44 GMT Message-Id: <199605160453.EAA13289@ba.com> X-Sender: sirkain@mnsinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Eric Goodwin Subject: Re: Regarding the FunnyKiss2.avi... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 10:57 PM 5/15/96 -0700, you wrote: >...my AVI player won't play it. "Cannot find vids:IV41 decompressor" it >says. Anybody know where I can find this? (I'm using Windows 3.1's media >player.) > > ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad > L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer > lazuli@u.washington.edu > >Fred's Fourth Law: It *must* be art. *I* don't understand it. *Smacks his forhead* D'oh.. I forgot: not everyone HAS that compression... I know of the site: http://www.intel.com/pc-supp/mulitmed/indeo/#prod And if anyone else wants that avi, i'd advise going to this site and download the newest video compressors from Indeo. I got the Windows/Win95 zip of it. I use this one now because it keeps alot of quality (less blocky colors of red or blue like the old one) and doesnt take up as much space. Sir Kain E-mail: sirkain@mnsinc.com From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 17 15:00:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA22491 for sonic-ll; Thu, 16 May 1996 21:02:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.airmail.net (server-f.iadfw.net [206.66.12.40]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA22482 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 21:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.73) id ; Thu, 16 May 96 20:02:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 May 96 20:02:49 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: lca254@mail.airmail.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: lca254@airmail.net (Lu Cananza) Subject: Re: Regarding the FunnyKiss2.avi... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >At 10:57 PM 5/15/96 -0700, you wrote: >>...my AVI player won't play it. "Cannot find vids:IV41 decompressor" it >>says. Anybody know where I can find this? (I'm using Windows 3.1's media >>player.) >> >> ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad >> L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer >> lazuli@u.washington.edu >> >>Fred's Fourth Law: It *must* be art. *I* don't understand it. >*Smacks his forhead* D'oh.. I forgot: not everyone HAS that compression... I >know of the site: http://www.intel.com/pc-supp/mulitmed/indeo/#prod > >And if anyone else wants that avi, i'd advise going to this site and >download the newest video compressors from Indeo. I got the Windows/Win95 >zip of it. I use this one now because it keeps alot of quality (less blocky >colors of red or blue like the old one) and doesnt take up as much space. > >Sir Kain > >E-mail: sirkain@mnsinc.com >Ah hiuahhhh > > From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 17 15:00:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA01657 for sonic-ll; Thu, 16 May 1996 22:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from saul6.u.washington.edu (lazuli@saul6.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA01652 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 22:46:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by saul6.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29594; Thu, 16 May 96 19:46:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 19:46:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Michael Sloniker To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Regarding the FunnyKiss2.avi... In-Reply-To: <199605160453.EAA13289@ba.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Thu, 16 May 1996, Eric Goodwin wrote: > *Smacks his forhead* D'oh.. I forgot: not everyone HAS that compression... I > know of the site: http://www.intel.com/pc-supp/mulitmed/indeo/#prod I tried that HTML, but no dice; I couldn't access it. Maybe it's misspelled? Oh, and I downloaded the Video for Windows file that was recommended to me twice. Still no dice. (I'm using Windows 3.1, BTB.) ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer lazuli@u.washington.edu Fred's Fourth Law: It *must* be art. *I* don't understand it. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 17 15:17:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA07043 for sonic-ll; Thu, 16 May 1996 10:12:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (rat@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA07033; Thu, 16 May 1996 10:12:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 10:12:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: the funny kiss! In-Reply-To: <199605151910.PAA26494@underdog.maxie.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Wed, 15 May 1996, Max Maus wrote: > At 05:26 PM 5/13/96 -0400, you wrote: > > >New on rat.org. > >An AVI captured from the Sat. AM show of Sally kissing Tails again and again. > >Ahh, what a lucky fox. > > heh. Sexy furry videos, huh? > > "Ratman's carryin' spooge!!! :G: > > :) :) :) Heh.. Well this is TASTEFUL. I mostly get disgusted at seeing the naughty bits being drawn in. And they were just kissing. :) Hell, it was on a Saturday morning cartoon for crying out loud! But I won't deny it, I do think Sally's kinda sexy! :) From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 17 15:25:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA14418 for sonic-ll; Thu, 16 May 1996 11:11:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (rat@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA14406; Thu, 16 May 1996 11:11:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 11:11:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Regarding the FunnyKiss2.avi... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Wed, 15 May 1996, Fred Michael Sloniker wrote: > ...my AVI player won't play it. "Cannot find vids:IV41 decompressor" it > says. Anybody know where I can find this? (I'm using Windows 3.1's media > player.) It was compressed with "Intel Indeo". It's built right into Win95. Try http://www.intel.com/pc-supp/multimed/indeo/ and try downloading the codec. It might seem like a lot of hassle to just play one movie, but this probably won't be the last one you see like this. Now, you say you used Media Player.. In order to get that to play movies, you would have had to install Video for Windows. Now I thought indeo came with VFW. Maybe you have an old version? Or i'm mistaken in thinking it came with it. :) I was about to recompress it with Radius Cinepak, which is much more compatible (especially since Quicktime also uses it), but it ended up being over a meg bigger! I'm posting this to the list to say this: If you're using Win95, you can play funykis2.avi, you can only play it if you have the Intel Indeo codec. Wow, talk about yer technobable. :-) From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 17 16:19:45 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA17385 for sonic-ll; Fri, 17 May 1996 15:21:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tsb.weschke.com (foxfire@tsb.weschke.com [204.91.224.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id PAA17379 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 15:21:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from foxfire@localhost) by tsb.weschke.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id PAA21625; Fri, 17 May 1996 15:21:19 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 15:21:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Forsyth To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Regarding the FunnyKiss2.avi... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Thu, 16 May 1996, Lu Cananza wrote: > >At 10:57 PM 5/15/96 -0700, you wrote: > >>...my AVI player won't play it. "Cannot find vids:IV41 decompressor" it > >>says. Anybody know where I can find this? (I'm using Windows 3.1's media > >>player.) > >> > >> ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad > >> L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer > >> lazuli@u.washington.edu > >> > >>Fred's Fourth Law: It *must* be art. *I* don't understand it. > >*Smacks his forhead* D'oh.. I forgot: not everyone HAS that compression... I > >know of the site: http://www.intel.com/pc-supp/mulitmed/indeo/#prod > > > >And if anyone else wants that avi, i'd advise going to this site and > >download the newest video compressors from Indeo. I got the Windows/Win95 > >zip of it. I use this one now because it keeps alot of quality (less blocky > >colors of red or blue like the old one) and doesnt take up as much space. > > > >Sir Kain > > > >E-mail: sirkain@mnsinc.com > >Ah hiuahhhh > > > > > Heh. That reminds me. Any good AVI players for Amiga? (*wanders off to go see what he can find on Aminet, assuming the silly site is working today.) Chris Forsyth From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 18 03:07:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA02120 for sonic-ll; Fri, 17 May 1996 17:40:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com (emout15.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.41]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA02115 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 17:39:57 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA09264 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Fri, 17 May 1996 17:39:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 17:39:23 -0400 Message-ID: <960517173921_296571002@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic badnik. . . . . Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >What were the names of those bothersome laserlight bugs... As far as I know, that's what they're called... Laserlight Bugs. But since I am the ultimate absent-minded one, I'm probably wrong. Oh well. SUPER STH@aol.com "Hi. My name's Sonic, and I'm a ringaholic. Somebody help me!" - Sonic (Yes, he really did say that) From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 18 03:16:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA04720 for sonic-ll; Fri, 17 May 1996 23:32:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA04708 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 23:32:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (ppp10.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.40]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA03297 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 20:36:12 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960518033128.006649a0@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 20:31:28 -0700 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: more tails Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 08:10 PM 5/15/96 -0400, you wrote: >Eric Goodwin has captured yet another AVI for us. > >http://rat.org/pub/sonic/movies/funykis2.zip ( 2.8 megs) > >It's the real Sally this time, kissing Tails, hugging Tails, then >kissing Sonic. It's so cute. :) > Looks like she's got her hands full. :) * Speed LOL. -Speedboy or Speed or ect. P.S. My IRC has been down for a few days. I also have a lot of work to do, so I won't be there (on the IRC) for a while (could be a few weeks or so). >:( I wrote a little "story" while I am away. Those of you who go on the #sonic channel often, know what I'm talking about. ;) CIAO!! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 18 03:24:12 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA04726 for sonic-ll; Fri, 17 May 1996 23:32:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA04718 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 23:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (ppp10.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.40]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA03303 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 20:36:14 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960518033130.0066a9c8@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 20:31:30 -0700 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Sonic P. Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hey! I was wondering if anyone out there can get me a Sonic plush toy (for money, of coarse:) I've looked everywhere and can't find one. It makes me mad! Anyway, If you email me (dflinn@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us), that would be great! Thanks a lot! -Chris F. Quote of the day: Robotnik: SNIVELY!! Snively: Oh, hello sir. Robotnik: When will the tess pod be back on line? Snively: Oh, any minute now, sir.... Robotnik: And what of the wolves?! Snively: Well um, sir. They've seemed to have....disappeared. Robotnik: No, Snively, they've just outsmarted you! Now, I strongly suggest that you use your pointed little head AND FIND THEM!!!!!! A.K.A. Cry of the wolf. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 18 03:25:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA06671 for sonic-ll; Fri, 17 May 1996 23:48:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA06619 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 23:48:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (ppp10.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.40]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA03440 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 20:52:12 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960518034729.00688b88@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 20:47:29 -0700 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Regarding the FunnyKiss2.avi... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 07:46 PM 5/16/96 -0700, you wrote: >On Thu, 16 May 1996, Eric Goodwin wrote: > >> *Smacks his forhead* D'oh.. I forgot: not everyone HAS that compression... I >> know of the site: http://www.intel.com/pc-supp/mulitmed/indeo/#prod > >I tried that HTML, but no dice; I couldn't access it. Maybe it's >misspelled? > >Oh, and I downloaded the Video for Windows file that was recommended to me >twice. Still no dice. (I'm using Windows 3.1, BTB.) > > ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad > L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer > lazuli@u.washington.edu > >Fred's Fourth Law: It *must* be art. *I* don't understand it. > > Maybe you need Win95........ Just adding fuel to ze fire. -Sonic the Hedgehog, the fastest thing alive. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 18 03:31:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA05093 for sonic-ll; Fri, 17 May 1996 23:39:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA05079 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 23:39:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (ppp10.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.40]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA03361 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 20:43:32 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960518033849.0067b5b4@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 20:38:49 -0700 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: the funny kiss! Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 10:12 AM 5/16/96 -0400, you wrote: >On Wed, 15 May 1996, Max Maus wrote: > >> At 05:26 PM 5/13/96 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >New on rat.org. >> >An AVI captured from the Sat. AM show of Sally kissing Tails again and again. >> >Ahh, what a lucky fox. >> >> heh. Sexy furry videos, huh? >> >> "Ratman's carryin' spooge!!! :G: >> >> :) :) :) > >Heh.. Well this is TASTEFUL. I mostly get disgusted at seeing the naughty >bits being drawn in. And they were just kissing. :) >Hell, it was on a Saturday morning cartoon for crying out loud! >But I won't deny it, I do think Sally's kinda sexy! :) > Heheheheh! Hey Ratman! Ever heard of 'Sal+++!' ? :) But yes, I kinda agree......in a way. But I'm not any Horice Hawkins from Princess Sally mini-series #3, Sally-Grams, that's for sure! -Chris From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 18 03:33:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA04809 for sonic-ll; Fri, 17 May 1996 23:33:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA04798 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 23:33:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id XAA24699 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 23:33:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (ppp10.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.40]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA03292 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 20:36:09 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960518033126.0066d5b0@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 20:31:26 -0700 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: the funny kiss! Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 03:10 PM 5/15/96 -0400, you wrote: >At 05:26 PM 5/13/96 -0400, you wrote: > >>New on rat.org. >>An AVI captured from the Sat. AM show of Sally kissing Tails again and again. >>Ahh, what a lucky fox. What a busy Princess. Sonic AND Tails. ;) >heh. Sexy furry videos, huh? > >"Ratman's carryin' spooge!!! :G: > >:) :) :) Heh heh. Yea right! >------------------------------------------ >Max_Maus on Furtoonia, FurryMuck, and SPR > >E-mail: max@maxie.com >WWW: http://www.maxie.com/~max > >Swat Kats! http://megakat.maxie.com >Care Bears! http://www.maxie.com/carebears >------------------------------------------ > > > -CF dflinn@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us "If you can't taste the chili dogs, stay out of the kitchen!" -Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 18 03:34:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA06169 for sonic-ll; Fri, 17 May 1996 23:46:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA06141 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 23:46:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id XAA25527 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 23:46:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (ppp10.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.40]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA03404 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 20:49:10 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960518034426.00678f3c@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 20:44:26 -0700 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Regarding the FunnyKiss2.avi... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 11:11 AM 5/16/96 -0400, you wrote: >On Wed, 15 May 1996, Fred Michael Sloniker wrote: > >> ...my AVI player won't play it. "Cannot find vids:IV41 decompressor" it >> says. Anybody know where I can find this? (I'm using Windows 3.1's media >> player.) > >It was compressed with "Intel Indeo". It's built right into Win95. >Try http://www.intel.com/pc-supp/multimed/indeo/ >and try downloading the codec. It might seem like a lot of hassle to just >play one movie, but this probably won't be the last one you see like this. > >Now, you say you used Media Player.. In order to get that to play movies, you >would have had to install Video for Windows. Now I thought indeo came with >VFW. Maybe you have an old version? Or i'm mistaken in thinking it came with >it. :) > >I was about to recompress it with Radius Cinepak, which is much more >compatible (especially since Quicktime also uses it), but it ended up being >over a meg bigger! > >I'm posting this to the list to say this: >If you're using Win95, you can play funykis2.avi, you can only play it if >you have the Intel Indeo codec. > >Wow, talk about yer technobable. :-) > I have Win95, and I don't. I just go into documents and unzip it, using WinZip. Then, It downloads it in a few secs. ;) -CF dflinn@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 19 11:39:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA12720 for sonic-ll; Sat, 18 May 1996 19:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from appstate-01.campus.mci.net (appstate-01.campus.mci.net [204.71.75.162]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id TAA12714 for ; Sat, 18 May 1996 19:06:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from s12-pm02.appstate.campus.mci.net (s12-pm02.appstate.campus.mci.net [206.24.85.71]) by appstate-01.campus.mci.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA28070 for ; Sat, 18 May 1996 19:06:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 19:06:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605182306.TAA28070@appstate-01.campus.mci.net> X-Sender: dhurst@appstate.campus.mci.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dennis Hurst Subject: Re: Sonic P. Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 08:31 PM 5/17/96 -0700, you wrote: >Hey! I was wondering if anyone out there can get me a Sonic plush toy (for >money, of coarse:) I've looked everywhere and can't find one. It makes me >mad! Anyway, If you email me (dflinn@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us), that would be >great! Thanks a lot! > > -Chris F. > > >Quote of the day: > >Robotnik: SNIVELY!! >Snively: Oh, hello sir. >Robotnik: When will the tess pod be back on line? >Snively: Oh, any minute now, sir.... >Robotnik: And what of the wolves?! >Snively: Well um, sir. They've seemed to have....disappeared. >Robotnik: No, Snively, they've just outsmarted you! Now, I strongly suggest >that you use your pointed little head AND FIND THEM!!!!!! >A.K.A. Cry of the wolf. > > > The last time I saw a Sonic Plush was in a Toys R Us in Clarksville, Indiana. They also had "Tails". I will check My contact in Indiana If they still have them both. I will Post all information I get. (Quanity available and Price (including 5 percent Indiana Sales TAX) Dennis Hurst (dhurst@appstate.campus.mci.net) From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon May 20 03:55:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA23226 for sonic-ll; Sun, 19 May 1996 23:13:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (mmdf@vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA23221 for ; Sun, 19 May 1996 23:13:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm5-ip170.vivanet.com by vivanet.vivanet.com id aa24137; 19 May 96 23:11 EDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960520031218.00702dc0@mail.vivanet.com> X-Sender: mpenna@mail.vivanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 23:12:18 -0400 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: IRC sessions Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Just a post from your friendly neighboorhood Sonic chat operator. As all of you #sonic frequent visitors have noticed, I have not been there for the last few nights. I apologize to all of you, but my computer was temporarily...indisposed. Okay, I can be a bit more blunt. I had a major system crash and lost most of my files, and had to re-load my OS. But it's okay now. So, I'll be back on Monday night, if all goes well. To those of you who haven't visited the channel yet, I just want to know, WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU??? :) Happy day to you. ******************************************************************** * * "Once again we meet to exchange * * -=Matt Penna=- * valuable tangibles. * * E mail: mpenna@vivanet.com * Isn't this fun?!" * * Home Page Under Construction * -The Trademaster, * * * Star Control II * ******************************************************************** * StH JJ1 Wks+++ AdS->+ Son+++i Sal+++^ Tal+++it Bun++ Rot++ Ant~ * * UnC++ Bks++ Rbk--/++ Pck--/+++ Snv~ Knu++ P++ Da $++++ Ay79 GM * ******************************************************************** From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon May 20 14:10:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA03042 for sonic-ll; Mon, 20 May 1996 11:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from siue.edu (clavin.isg.siue.edu [146.163.5.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA03036 for ; Mon, 20 May 1996 11:14:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LAB_B_18.aclib.siue.edu (lib42.aclib.siue.edu [146.163.16.72]) by siue.edu (8.6.10/8.6.11+) with SMTP id KAA10690 for ; Mon, 20 May 1996 10:13:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199605201513.KAA10690@siue.edu> From: dgonterman@aol.com (David Gonterman) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Sega's coming back to Sonic in Force!! Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 15:26:55 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sega's coming back to Sonic in Force!!! An Electronic Gaming Monthly report on the E3 confrence tells of a new Sonic game coming for the _Genesis_ (I hope I hope!!) I don't know all the details, but I do know that it'll be called 'Sonic 3-D', is expected to come out by Christmas, and will have a 3/4 perspective a la Mario RPG. I'll be scanning the article in for rat.org and be hanging on to my 16-bitter! I don't think that Sega's done with the Genesis yet!! Oh, and do you know that Saturns got _three_ 32-bit processors? That's *96* bits there!! (3-by-32--remember the Turbo Graphix 16? Really a 2-by-8?) What's Nintendo's mystery system got? A lowly 1-by-64? That processor'll be having strokes by the time I'm done with it...and it'll *still* play that pond scum plummer!! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon May 20 17:19:38 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id OAA23630 for sonic-ll; Mon, 20 May 1996 14:00:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from saul4.u.washington.edu (lazuli@saul4.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA23623 for ; Mon, 20 May 1996 14:00:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by saul4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18050; Mon, 20 May 96 11:00:08 -0700 Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 11:00:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Michael Sloniker To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: IRC sessions In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19960520031218.00702dc0@mail.vivanet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Sun, 19 May 1996, Matt Penna wrote: > To those of you who haven't visited the channel yet, I just want to know, > WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU??? :) Well, the IRC interface at the University of Washington is pretty sucky, and not always available. That's *my* main reason. ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer lazuli@u.washington.edu "Today, I learned that nature can be cruel-- but that I CAN BE CRUELER!" From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon May 20 17:19:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA03307 for sonic-ll; Mon, 20 May 1996 15:29:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (mmdf@vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA03299 for ; Mon, 20 May 1996 15:29:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm4-ip155.vivanet.com by vivanet.vivanet.com id aa04039; 20 May 96 15:28 EDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960520192847.006f5a00@mail.vivanet.com> X-Sender: mpenna@mail.vivanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 15:28:47 -0400 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: Sonic IRC-EFNet Server listing Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Several people have written to me recently and told me that the IRC servers that are listed on the Sonic Chat pages on rat.org do not work for them. I realize that this has been a problem for some of you, and I've been working on a longer list of EFNet servers, which will hopefully be done shortly. As soon as it's finished, it will be uploaded to Ratman and he will update the Sonic IRC pages. Having a larger list of servers to try will increase the probability that one of them will actually work for you. I apologize for taking so long with this, but the list of servers that was sent to me by a #sonic user (I can't remember who it was. Whoever it was, THANK YOU!) has over 200 servers located in countries all over the world. I have to go through them and weed out SOME of them. I can't post a 20-page long list of servers on the Web; it would be impossible to find anything...unless I get creative somehow. (Hmmmm....) At any rate, I will be done soon, as in the next couple of weeks. Those of you who are having problems such as these, please wait until I get the server list updated and then try your luck again. I will make another post to the list when the pages are updated, specifying what has been changed. If you're having any problems other than this one, please E-mail me and I'll help you. That's what I'm here for... ******************************************************************** * * "Once again we meet to exchange * * -=Matt Penna=- * valuable tangibles. * * E mail: mpenna@vivanet.com * Isn't this fun?!" * * Home Page Under Construction * -The Trademaster, * * * Star Control II * ******************************************************************** * StH JJ1 Wks+++ AdS->+ Son+++i Sal+++^ Tal+++it Bun++ Rot++ Ant~ * * UnC++ Bks++ Rbk--/++ Pck--/+++ Snv~ Knu++ P++ Da $++++ Ay79 GM * ******************************************************************** From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue May 21 13:15:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA22840 for sonic-ll; Mon, 20 May 1996 23:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA22835 for ; Mon, 20 May 1996 23:36:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id XAA04694 for ; Mon, 20 May 1996 23:36:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (granite-d18.sierra.net [206.153.184.18]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA15325 for ; Mon, 20 May 1996 20:38:52 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960521033435.0066c974@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 20:34:35 -0700 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Sega's coming back to Sonic in Force!! Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 03:26 PM 5/20/96 GMT, you wrote: >To: sonic@bort.mv.net > > Sega's coming back to Sonic > in Force!!! > >An Electronic Gaming Monthly report on the E3 confrence tells of a new >Sonic game coming for the _Genesis_ (I hope I hope!!) I don't know >all the details, but I do know that it'll be called 'Sonic 3-D', is >expected to come out by Christmas, and will have a 3/4 perspective a >la Mario RPG. > >I'll be scanning the article in for rat.org and be hanging on to my >16-bitter! I don't think that Sega's done with the Genesis yet!! > >Oh, and do you know that Saturns got _three_ 32-bit processors? >That's *96* bits there!! (3-by-32--remember the Turbo Graphix 16? >Really a 2-by-8?) What's Nintendo's mystery system got? A lowly >1-by-64? That processor'll be having strokes by the time I'm done >with it...and it'll *still* play that pond scum plummer!! > > > > > What system is this for? It sounds wicked cool! -Me From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue May 21 13:19:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA22735 for sonic-ll; Mon, 20 May 1996 23:34:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA22726 for ; Mon, 20 May 1996 23:33:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (granite-d18.sierra.net [206.153.184.18]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA15310 for ; Mon, 20 May 1996 20:37:26 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960521033309.0066b458@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 20:33:09 -0700 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: IRC sessions Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 11:12 PM 5/19/96 -0400, you wrote: >Just a post from your friendly neighboorhood Sonic chat operator. > >As all of you #sonic frequent visitors have noticed, I have not been there >for the last few nights. I apologize to all of you, but my computer was >temporarily...indisposed. Okay, I can be a bit more blunt. I had a major >system crash and lost most of my files, and had to re-load my OS. But it's >okay now. > >So, I'll be back on Monday night, if all goes well. > >To those of you who haven't visited the channel yet, I just want to know, >WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU??? :) > >Happy day to you. Lemme guess. Are you nick = Jay-bird? -Chris > > > >******************************************************************** >* * "Once again we meet to exchange * >* -=Matt Penna=- * valuable tangibles. * >* E mail: mpenna@vivanet.com * Isn't this fun?!" * >* Home Page Under Construction * -The Trademaster, * >* * Star Control II * >******************************************************************** >* StH JJ1 Wks+++ AdS->+ Son+++i Sal+++!^ Tal+++it Bun++ Rot++ Ant~ * >* UnC++ Bks++ Rbk--/++ Pck--/+++ Snv~ Knu++ P++ Da $++++ Ay79 GM * >******************************************************************** > > From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue May 21 17:39:48 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA29609 for sonic-ll; Tue, 21 May 1996 15:27:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id PAA29597 for ; Tue, 21 May 1996 15:27:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns1.ptd.net (root@ns1.ptd.net [198.80.46.1]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id PAA08917 for ; Tue, 21 May 1996 15:27:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from JAYBIRD (cs1-04.lfd.ptd.net [204.186.41.4]) by ns1.ptd.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA13019 for ; Tue, 21 May 1996 15:25:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 15:25:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605211925.PAA13019@ns1.ptd.net> X-Sender: sonic2@postoffice.ptd.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Jason Shank Subject: IRC sessions Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 08:33 PM 5/20/96 -0700, you wrote: >At 11:12 PM 5/19/96 -0400, you wrote: >>Just a post from your friendly neighboorhood Sonic chat operator. >> >>As all of you #sonic frequent visitors have noticed, I have not been there >>for the last few nights. I apologize to all of you, but my computer was >>temporarily...indisposed. Okay, I can be a bit more blunt. I had a major >>system crash and lost most of my files, and had to re-load my OS. But it's >>okay now. >> >>So, I'll be back on Monday night, if all goes well. >> >>To those of you who haven't visited the channel yet, I just want to know, >>WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU??? :) >> >>Happy day to you. > >Lemme guess. Are you nick = Jay-bird? Uh, no, THIS is me, Jaybird! :) -Jaybird (MUCK + IRC nick) Check out #Sonic on IRC! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue May 21 19:00:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA21590 for sonic-ll; Tue, 21 May 1996 18:12:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (mmdf@vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA21579 for ; Tue, 21 May 1996 18:12:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm4-ip142.vivanet.com by vivanet.vivanet.com id ab00765; 21 May 96 18:11 EDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960521221126.00703f4c@mail.vivanet.com> X-Sender: mpenna@mail.vivanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 18:11:26 -0400 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: Re: IRC sessions Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Lemme guess. Are you nick = Jay-bird? > > -Chris No. I am MilesProw on the channel. Sorry for not making that clear. I keep forgetting that there are new people on the list, with more coming all the time. Not everybody knows me. Sorry. ******************************************************************** * * "Once again we meet to exchange * * -=Matt Penna=- * valuable tangibles. * * E mail: mpenna@vivanet.com * Isn't this fun?!" * * Home Page Under Construction * -The Trademaster, * * * Star Control II * ******************************************************************** * StH JJ1 Wks+++ AdS->+ Son+++i Sal+++^ Tal+++it Bun++ Rot++ Ant~ * * UnC++ Bks++ Rbk--/++ Pck--/+++ Snv~ Knu++ P++ Da $++++ Ay79 GM * ******************************************************************** From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue May 21 19:22:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA22880 for sonic-ll; Tue, 21 May 1996 18:30:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nic.data.net.mx (nic.data.net.mx [200.13.16.8]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA22872 for ; Tue, 21 May 1996 18:30:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ts54.data.net.mx (ts54.data.net.mx [200.13.16.93]) by nic.data.net.mx (8.6.12/CN-CONFIG-0.3) with SMTP id RAA12900 for ; Tue, 21 May 1996 17:26:50 -0600 Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 17:26:50 -0600 Message-Id: <199605212326.RAA12900@nic.data.net.mx> X-Sender: alexmon1@mailer.data.net.mx X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: alexmon1@data.net.mx (ALEXANDRA MONCAYO ORTEGA) Subject: Re: Sega's coming back to Sonic in Force!! Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >At 03:26 PM 5/20/96 GMT, you wrote: >>To: sonic@bort.mv.net >> >> Sega's coming back to Sonic >> in Force!!! >> >>An Electronic Gaming Monthly report on the E3 confrence tells of a new >>Sonic game coming for the _Genesis_ (I hope I hope!!) I don't know >>all the details, but I do know that it'll be called 'Sonic 3-D', is >>expected to come out by Christmas, and will have a 3/4 perspective a >>la Mario RPG. >> >>I'll be scanning the article in for rat.org and be hanging on to my >>16-bitter! I don't think that Sega's done with the Genesis yet!! >> >>Oh, and do you know that Saturns got _three_ 32-bit processors? >>That's *96* bits there!! (3-by-32--remember the Turbo Graphix 16? >>Really a 2-by-8?) What's Nintendo's mystery system got? A lowly >>1-by-64? That processor'll be having strokes by the time I'm done >>with it...and it'll *still* play that pond scum plummer!! >> >> >> >> >> >What system is this for? It sounds wicked cool! > > -Me Hi there pals!! Hey I ve heard of a new Sonic game for the Genesis system called Sonic 4 according with the magazine Diehard Gamefan..Well that was what I read. In other news..It will be showed in the E3! I cant dount thata 16 bit rules!!! Well,see you laterz! Bubye! Alex/Kiri_Megami/Charmy_Bee From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue May 21 21:06:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA28388 for sonic-ll; Tue, 21 May 1996 19:17:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from appstate-01.campus.mci.net (appstate-01.campus.mci.net [204.71.75.162]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id TAA28378 for ; Tue, 21 May 1996 19:17:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from s12-pm01.appstate.campus.mci.net (s12-pm01.appstate.campus.mci.net [206.24.85.41]) by appstate-01.campus.mci.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA14365 for ; Tue, 21 May 1996 19:16:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 19:16:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605212316.TAA14365@appstate-01.campus.mci.net> X-Sender: dhurst@appstate.campus.mci.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dennis Hurst Subject: Re: Sega's coming back to Sonic in Force!! Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 03:26 PM 5/20/96 GMT, you wrote: >To: sonic@bort.mv.net > > Sega's coming back to Sonic > in Force!!! > >An Electronic Gaming Monthly report on the E3 confrence tells of a new >Sonic game coming for the _Genesis_ (I hope I hope!!) I don't know >all the details, but I do know that it'll be called 'Sonic 3-D', is >expected to come out by Christmas, and will have a 3/4 perspective a >la Mario RPG. > >I'll be scanning the article in for rat.org and be hanging on to my >16-bitter! I don't think that Sega's done with the Genesis yet!! > >Oh, and do you know that Saturns got _three_ 32-bit processors? >That's *96* bits there!! (3-by-32--remember the Turbo Graphix 16? >Really a 2-by-8?) What's Nintendo's mystery system got? A lowly >1-by-64? That processor'll be having strokes by the time I'm done >with it...and it'll *still* play that pond scum plummer!! > > > > > > > Have anyone looked on Sega's Site for complete information in the NEWS RELEASE There is reports of multiple system Sonic Games. (Including Genesis) Dennis Hurst (dhurst@appstate.campus.mci.net) From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed May 22 07:51:25 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA20518 for sonic-ll; Tue, 21 May 1996 22:52:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iwaynet.iwaynet.net ([198.30.29.7]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id WAA20447 for ; Tue, 21 May 1996 22:52:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailbox.iwaynet.net ([206.244.42.112]) by iwaynet.iwaynet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA03126 for ; Tue, 21 May 1996 22:49:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 22:49:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605220249.WAA03126@iwaynet.iwaynet.net> X-Sender: eggleton@iwaynet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: "Knuck's/Kulock" Subject: Re: Sega's coming back to Sonic in Force!! Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 05:26 PM 5/21/96 -0600, you wrote: >>At 03:26 PM 5/20/96 GMT, you wrote: >>>To: sonic@bort.mv.net >>> >>> Sega's coming back to Sonic >>> in Force!!! >>> >>>An Electronic Gaming Monthly report on the E3 confrence tells of a new >>>Sonic game coming for the _Genesis_ (I hope I hope!!) I don't know >>>all the details, but I do know that it'll be called 'Sonic 3-D', is >>>expected to come out by Christmas, and will have a 3/4 perspective a >>>la Mario RPG. >>> >>>I'll be scanning the article in for rat.org and be hanging on to my >>>16-bitter! I don't think that Sega's done with the Genesis yet!! >>> >>>Oh, and do you know that Saturns got _three_ 32-bit processors? >>>That's *96* bits there!! (3-by-32--remember the Turbo Graphix 16? >>>Really a 2-by-8?) What's Nintendo's mystery system got? A lowly >>>1-by-64? That processor'll be having strokes by the time I'm done >>>with it...and it'll *still* play that pond scum plummer!! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>What system is this for? It sounds wicked cool! >> >> -Me > > >Hi there pals!! > >Hey I ve heard of a new Sonic game for the Genesis system called Sonic 4 >according with the magazine Diehard Gamefan..Well that was what I read. >In other news..It will be showed in the E3! I cant dount thata 16 bit >rules!!! > >Well,see you laterz! > >Bubye! >Alex/Kiri_Megami/Charmy_Bee > > If you pick up a copy of Video Games, it has a few pics in it of this new SOnic..it looks kewl..using the 3-d mentioned above! My only question os, what are those birds following Sonic for in all the pics? -Knuck's/Kulock/The Spanish Inquisition "No one expects the Spanish...oh, bugger..."-Monty Python From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 24 08:25:12 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA24098 for sonic-ll; Thu, 23 May 1996 22:03:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com (emout19.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.45]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA24085 for ; Thu, 23 May 1996 22:03:29 -0400 (EDT) From: SonicKC@aol.com Received: by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA02779 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Thu, 23 May 1996 22:02:58 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 22:02:58 -0400 Message-ID: <960523220258_202997998@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Sonic #37 (Spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net Spoiler protection (I'm required to do this, ya know) I just got my copy of Sonic #37 today, and it is definitely way past cool! The actual cover looks so much better than the preview (but then, has there ever been a Spaz cover that hasn't been awesome?). I'd scan it for you guys if I had a color scanner-unfortunately, I don't. Oh well. =) Anyways, the two stories are cool, although I have to admit that the Freedom Fighters do look too cute in the first one (I forget the artist's name, and I don't have my copy right here). Despite that, though, it's still exciting. The Bunnie solo is pretty good; I take this as an indicator that we are going to be seeing more of Bunnie soon. Also, in the Sonic-Grams, they had yet another teaser about Mecha Madness. This one, however, told a little bit more: it will have a lead-up story in Sonic #39, and it will feature the "real" Mecha-Sonic. I'm not quite sure what that means yet, but it sounds good! Looking forward to #38! ;-) Sonic KC And now, for my Sonic Code: StH JJ1 WkS+++ AdS- Arc+++ Son++! Sal++i Tal+++t Bun++" Knu+++! Amy+++i Mecha-Sonic+++ The Chaotix+++ Gef++ P+ Dfoh $+++ E27 Ee09 A12 GF From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 24 09:45:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id JAA05126 for sonic-ll; Fri, 24 May 1996 09:44:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (rat@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id JAA05120 for sonic; Fri, 24 May 1996 09:44:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 09:44:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman Message-Id: <199605241344.JAA05120@bort.mv.net> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: testing Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net please ignore this. mail should come from lists.mv.net and not bort.mv.net now. this is how it always should have been. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 24 10:40:25 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id JAA06917 for sonic-ll; Fri, 24 May 1996 09:52:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id JAA06910 for ; Fri, 24 May 1996 09:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (granite-d11.sierra.net [206.153.184.11]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA13251 for ; Fri, 24 May 1996 06:55:36 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960524135123.00673fe8@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 06:51:23 -0700 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net Did we run out of topics? This list is pretty quiet. Hrmph. Maybe we need to get something going.... -Chris Flinn dflinn@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us P.S. I won't be on the IRC this weekend. My parents are making me go camping today after school. Grrr >:( Oh well! See you guys JUST MAYBE today, this afternoon. If not, see you on Monday or Tuesday. :) -Speed From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 24 13:56:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id MAA29389 for sonic-ll; Fri, 24 May 1996 12:54:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from troi.csw.net (cronyx@troi.csw.net [206.185.164.23]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA29383 for ; Fri, 24 May 1996 12:54:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from cronyx@localhost) by troi.csw.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA20371; Fri, 24 May 1996 11:56:32 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 11:56:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Cronyx To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: stuff Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net Is there any channal that shows re-runs? The comic any good? Is it the same one that was in Sega Vishions for a while? I'm working on a fanfic, and 'cause I havent seen all the eps, I'm not clear on some things. First, does anyone use solid projectile weapons (guns that use bullets), or all they all beam waepons? What is the actual scientific porcess for (sp?)robotazation? How much of Mobious(sp?) does Robotnic control (pre-doomsday)? Is Packbell an actual char, or is that just fanfic? Is Sandra Nightweaver an actual chat, or is that just fanfic? Does Nicole have a solid-hologram generated body, or is that fanfic? This next question dosnt have anything to do with my writing fanfic, Im just curious.. Am I missing something from the plot line? I dont understand the point of having nothing but power plants and factories and no life on a planet. Wheres the fun in haveing nothing but robot slaves? One possable answere is that Robotnik is compleatly insain. Somebody have an asnwere to this? the Cronyx cronyx@cswnet.com cronyx@troi.csw.net From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 24 14:36:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA05308 for sonic-ll; Fri, 24 May 1996 13:46:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.Clark.Net (mail.clark.net [168.143.0.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id NAA05303 for ; Fri, 24 May 1996 13:46:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ba.com (ba.com [198.5.6.1]) by mail.Clark.Net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA16062 for ; Fri, 24 May 1996 13:46:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sirkain.mns.inc.com (sirkain.mnsinc.com [206.239.33.181]) by ba.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA11315 for ; Fri, 24 May 1996 12:47:07 GMT Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 12:47:07 GMT Message-Id: <199605241247.MAA11315@ba.com> X-Sender: sirkain@mnsinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: Eric Goodwin Subject: Re: Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net At 06:51 AM 5/24/96 -0700, you wrote: > Did we run out of topics? This list is pretty quiet. Hrmph. Maybe >we need to get something going.... > > -Chris Flinn > dflinn@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us > > P.S. I won't be on the IRC this weekend. My parents are making me >go camping today after school. Grrr >:( Oh well! See you guys JUST MAYBE >today, this afternoon. If not, see you on Monday or Tuesday. :) > > -Speed BTW, what irc server is the #sonic channel on you all are talking about? i might drop in every so often. Sir Kain E-mail: sirkain@mnsinc.com From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 24 19:23:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id OAA09935 for sonic-ll; Fri, 24 May 1996 14:22:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com (emout14.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.40]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA09891 for ; Fri, 24 May 1996 14:21:41 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA08229 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Fri, 24 May 1996 14:21:05 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 14:21:05 -0400 Message-ID: <960524142104_203407333@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: Re: No Subject Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net Well, I haven't heard anyone discuss the first issue of the KNUCKLES' mini-series. So if you're looking for a topic, here's your chance. And just to clue you in, if enough of you show your support with your cards and letters as well as buying the book, who knows, you may get to see your favorite echidna on a regular basis. Ken From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 24 19:30:03 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA23178 for sonic-ll; Fri, 24 May 1996 16:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from charlie.cns.iit.edu (charlie.cns.iit.edu [198.87.195.20]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA23160 for ; Fri, 24 May 1996 16:10:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elof.cns.iit.edu by charlie.cns.iit.edu via SMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/940406.SGI) for id PAA08159; Fri, 24 May 1996 15:10:24 -0500 Received: by elof.cns.iit.edu (NX5.67d/NX3.0S) id AA02609; Fri, 24 May 96 15:10:21 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 May 96 15:10:21 -0500 From: Victor Ramirez Message-Id: <9605242010.AA02609@elof.cns.iit.edu> To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: New Sonic Archie Covers Posted Cc: nowlola@elof.cns.iit.edu, ramivic@elof.cns.iit.edu Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net FINALLY - Issue 37 is out! Here are the jpegs: salystuk.jpg - Princess Sally is stuck in the corner box of the comic soncvr16.jpg - Color scan of issue #16 soncvr37.jpg - Color scan of issue #37 (I LOVE THIS COVER!!) They are under sonic/images/comic at http://rat.org Everybody enjoy! Paul C. MAKE SONIC POSTERS!!!!! --- Victor A. Ramirez Computer Graphics Technician ramivic@elof.cns.iit.edu From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 24 19:41:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA29671 for sonic-ll; Fri, 24 May 1996 17:08:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (mmdf@vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA29658 for ; Fri, 24 May 1996 17:08:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm1-ip86.vivanet.com by vivanet.vivanet.com id aa06128; 24 May 96 17:06 EDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960524210742.00708888@mail.vivanet.com> X-Sender: mpenna@mail.vivanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 17:07:42 -0400 To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: Re: Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >BTW, what irc server is the #sonic channel on you all are talking about? i >might drop in every so often. >Sir Kain Go to http:/rat.org/sonic/irc and you'll find everything that you need to know. Or you can follow the 'IRC' link on the sonic resource page. Remember everybody, no posts to the list about chat. In the future, I will ignore all of them. (I'm not mad, so don't feel bad about it. Just direct all questions to me personally in the future.) -Matt Penna E-mail: mpenna@vivanet.com Home Page Under Construction ******************************************************************** * StH JJ1 Wks+++ AdS->+ Son+++i Sal+++^ Tal+++it Bun++ Rot++ Ant~ * * UnC++ Bks++ Rbk--/++ Pck--/+++ Snv~ Knu++ P++ Da $++++ Ay79 GM * ******************************************************************** From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 24 19:52:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA18777 for sonic-ll; Fri, 24 May 1996 15:43:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (mmdf@vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA18767 for ; Fri, 24 May 1996 15:43:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm2-ip122.vivanet.com by vivanet.vivanet.com id aa23495; 24 May 96 15:37 EDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960524193818.007016b4@mail.vivanet.com> X-Sender: mpenna@mail.vivanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 15:38:18 -0400 To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: EFNet Server Listing updated! (Finally!) ;) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net Hi, everybody! This is MilesProw, and I'm just posting to the list to tell everybody that the Sonic IRC pages have been updated. I added a VERY large list of servers. It's in plain text format, instead of an html file, so you can save it and view it with ease if you want. The listing has servers listed by country, and then by state if you're in the US. Follow the link on the Sonic IRC main page to 'What IRC network is it on?' and you'll be all set. As always, if you have any problems, just send me an e-mail. I'd also appreciate it if everybody would re-read the Channel Information Page. I've updated this, and it spells out the channel policies in a bit more detail. We've been having some problems on #sonic recently, not the least of which have been takeovers and harassment, so this page spells out the consequences of stupidity. Any questions or comments, please let me know. Once more, please do not post questions to the list. Thanks, everybody! I hope to see you on the channel soon. -Matt Penna E-mail: mpenna@vivanet.com Home Page Under Construction ******************************************************************** * StH JJ1 Wks+++ AdS->+ Son+++i Sal+++^ Tal+++it Bun++ Rot++ Ant~ * * UnC++ Bks++ Rbk--/++ Pck--/+++ Snv~ Knu++ P++ Da $++++ Ay79 GM * ******************************************************************** From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 24 22:07:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA23864 for sonic-ll; Fri, 24 May 1996 21:36:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA23857 for ; Fri, 24 May 1996 21:36:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mime3.prodigy.com ([192.168.253.27]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA60336 for ; Fri, 24 May 1996 21:18:44 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by mime3.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) id VAA15702 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Fri, 24 May 1996 21:15:50 -0400 Message-Id: <199605250115.VAA15702@mime3.prodigy.com> X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm04sc03 From: XXAX26B@prodigy.com (NATE HARTEL) Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 21:15:50, -0500 To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: X-files/Sonic music Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net Well, I was watching X-files tonight, and low and behold, while htey were in the arcade, you could here the music from Sonic 1. first level, yoiu could here the music and the rings being picked up. I thought this would be interesting to know... Ashura From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri May 24 22:39:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA28201 for sonic-ll; Fri, 24 May 1996 22:15:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (mmdf@vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA28196 for ; Fri, 24 May 1996 22:15:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm2-ip103.vivanet.com by vivanet.vivanet.com id aa06642; 24 May 96 22:13 EDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960525021412.006ffafc@mail.vivanet.com> X-Sender: mpenna@mail.vivanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 22:14:12 -0400 To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: Sonic IRC session Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net Hi, everybody. MilesProw here... Don't forget about the chat session on #sonic on Saturday at 8PM EST. Hope to see you there! Check out the updated server list! -Matt Penna E-mail: mpenna@vivanet.com Home Page Under Construction ******************************************************************** * StH JJ1 Wks+++ AdS->+ Son+++i Sal+++^ Tal+++it Bun++ Rot++ Ant~ * * UnC++ Bks++ Rbk--/++ Pck--/+++ Snv~ Knu++ P++ Da $++++ Ay79 GM * ******************************************************************** From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 25 01:10:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id AAA19581 for sonic-ll; Sat, 25 May 1996 00:43:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from appstate-01.campus.mci.net (appstate-01.campus.mci.net [204.71.75.162]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id AAA19576 for ; Sat, 25 May 1996 00:43:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from s08-pm02.appstate.campus.mci.net (s08-pm02.appstate.campus.mci.net [206.24.85.67]) by appstate-01.campus.mci.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA04610 for ; Sat, 25 May 1996 00:43:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 00:43:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605250443.AAA04610@appstate-01.campus.mci.net> X-Sender: dhurst@appstate.campus.mci.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: Dennis Hurst Subject: Re: EFNet Server Listing updated! (Finally!) ;) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net At 03:38 PM 5/24/96 -0400, you wrote: >Hi, everybody! > >This is MilesProw, and I'm just posting to the list to tell everybody that >the Sonic IRC pages have been updated. > >I added a VERY large list of servers. It's in plain text format, instead of >an html file, so you can save it and view it with ease if you want. The >listing has servers listed by country, and then by state if you're in the >US. Follow the link on the Sonic IRC main page to 'What IRC network is it >on?' and you'll be all set. As always, if you have any problems, just send >me an e-mail. > >I'd also appreciate it if everybody would re-read the Channel Information >Page. I've updated this, and it spells out the channel policies in a bit >more detail. We've been having some problems on #sonic recently, not the >least of which have been takeovers and harassment, so this page spells out >the consequences of stupidity. Any questions or comments, please let me know. > >Once more, please do not post questions to the list. > >Thanks, everybody! I hope to see you on the channel soon. > > > > >-Matt Penna >E-mail: mpenna@vivanet.com >Home Page Under Construction > >******************************************************************** >* StH JJ1 Wks+++ AdS->+ Son+++i Sal+++^ Tal+++it Bun++ Rot++ Ant~ * >* UnC++ Bks++ Rbk--/++ Pck--/+++ Snv~ Knu++ P++ Da $++++ Ay79 GM * >******************************************************************** > > > Please give some credit to the person who sent you the list in the first place. (ME) Dennis Hurst (dhurst@appstate.campus.mci.net) From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 25 01:25:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA04665 for sonic-ll; Fri, 24 May 1996 23:31:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bigboote.WPI.EDU (root@bigboote.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA04656 for ; Fri, 24 May 1996 23:31:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wpi.WPI.EDU (tedp@wpi.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.6]) by bigboote.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA17385; Fri, 24 May 1996 23:31:46 -0400 From: Theodore Patri Perrotti Received: (from tedp@localhost) by wpi.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.8.Alpha.1) id XAA16066; Fri, 24 May 1996 23:31:45 -0400 Message-Id: <199605250331.XAA16066@wpi.WPI.EDU> Subject: Re: stuff To: sonic@lists.mv.net Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 23:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tedp@WPI.EDU (Theodore Patri Perrotti) In-Reply-To: from "Cronyx" at May 24, 96 11:56:32 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net > > > Is there any channel that shows re-runs? There are two Sonic cartoons. The former Saturday morning one (the good one) is on the USA network on Sundays at 9:30am. The other one is on USA on weekday mornings (I'm not sure of the time). > The comic any good? The Archie comic varies in quality from issue to issue, though the last few issues have been pretty good. It's somewhere between the weekday and Saturday Sonic cartoons in terms of seriousness of writing. > Is it the same one that was in Sega Visions for a while? I have no idea. > > I'm working on a fanfic, and 'cause I haven't seen all the eps, I'm not > clear on some things. > First, does anyone use solid projectile weapons (guns that use bullets), > or all they all beam waepons? I can't recall anyone using projectile weapons in any of the cartoon eps. The only "solid projectile" weapons I know of anyone using were slingshots and paint balls used by Princess Sally and the Freedom Fighters to blind the Swatbots in the Princess Sally Miniseries. > What is the actual scientific process for (sp?)robotization? No one really knows. However, Dan Drazen puts forth a good hypothesis in the fanfic "Bloodlines" (available at http://rat.org) > How much of Mobious(sp?) does Robotnic control (pre-doomsday)? During the TV ep "Blast to the Past", I believe that Snivley mentions that "90% of the population has been captured and is awaiting robotization". > Is Packbell an actual char, or is that just fanfic? > Is Sandra Nightweaver an actual chat, or is that just fanfic? > Does Nicole have a solid-hologram generated body, or is that fanfic? All of the above are only in fanfic. > This next question doesn't have anything to do with my writing fanfic, > I'm just curious.. > Am I missing something from the plot line? I dont understand the point of > having nothing but power plants and factories and no life on a planet. > Wheres the fun in haveing nothing but robot slaves? One possable answere is > that Robotnik is completely insane. > I think it's a foregone conclusion that Robotnik's nuts. Anyway, perhaps he's so busy roboticizing people that he hasn't thought about what it would be like to rule a planet with no one but robot slaves. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) perrottit.mbr@asme.org Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester Polytechnic Institute ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 25 10:40:38 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA28299 for sonic-ll; Sat, 25 May 1996 10:16:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA28293 for ; Sat, 25 May 1996 10:16:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA16937; Sat, 25 May 1996 10:16:22 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id KAA17012; Sat, 25 May 1996 10:16:23 -0400 Message-Id: <199605251416.KAA17012@edmund> Subject: Re: stuff To: sonic@lists.mv.net Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 10:16:23 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "Cronyx" at May 24, 96 11:56:32 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net As official keeper of the FAQ File and unofficial old man on the list, allow me: > > Is there any channal that shows re-runs? Practically every cable station reruns programs *ad nauseum.* However, if it's Sonic reruns you're interested in, they're being shown on the USA Network (Sundays, 9:30AM Eastern; M-F 8:00 AM Eastern for the syndicated show). > The comic any good? Is it the same one that was in Sega Vishions for a while? > It's gotten way better over the last few months. Kanterovich & Penders have had scripts done that more closely correspond to the show. > I'm working on a fanfic, and 'cause I havent seen all the eps, I'm not clear > on some things. > First, does anyone use solid projectile weapons (guns that use bullets), > or all they all beam waepons? So far, no use of projectile weaponry. > What is the actual scientific porcess for (sp?)robotazation? Debatable. Some seem to favor a nanite-based technology while I prefer to think of it in terms of a biomechanical synthesis. And if I have to explain any of this further, you may be in over your head ;-). > How much of Mobious(sp?) does Robotnic control (pre-doomsday)? Debatable. Not all of Mobius has been mapped out, described and its inhabitants named, for one thing. Let's say he's taking care of the easy stuff first, and that the Great Forest ain't easy. > Is Packbell an actual char, or is that just fanfic? Fanfic, a creation of Dave Pistone. > Is Sandra Nightweaver an actual chat, or is that just fanfic? Also fanfic. > Does Nicole have a solid-hologram generated body, or is that fanfic? Not fanfic; in several eps, Nicole has generated holo images. > > This next question dosnt have anything to do with my writing fanfic, Im just > curious.. > Am I missing something from the plot line? I dont understand the point of > having nothing but power plants and factories and no life on a planet. > Wheres the fun in haveing nothing but robot slaves? One possable answere is > that Robotnik is compleatly insain. > > Somebody have an asnwere to this? > You hear about the power plants and factories because they're the preferred targets for the freedom fighters to hit. They don't go in for frontal assaults, preferring a strategy of hit-and-run. Alternative answer: you hear about the power plants and factories because a) Robotnik relies on them to further his conquest of Mobius; b) the pollution generated by same isn't doing Mobius any good. As for Robotnik's insanity -- let's just say that, like a lot of dictators, he has trouble thinking things through. Just my $.02: ================================================================ || ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen || |\__-- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu || | / __ _ ||Sonic: "Whoa, you're not going to || //\ / \ /__ || use the L-word, are you?" || | o| 0|__ --_ ||Tails: "Well...." || \\____-- __ \ ___ - ||Sonic: "Then I will...I love you, || (@@ __/ / /_ || little bro." || -_____--- --_ ||AoStH: "Tails' New Home" ================================================================ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 25 11:26:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA02508 for sonic-ll; Sat, 25 May 1996 11:12:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (mmdf@vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA02498 for ; Sat, 25 May 1996 11:12:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm1-ip86.vivanet.com by vivanet.vivanet.com id aa11764; 25 May 96 11:10 EDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960525151156.0070f360@mail.vivanet.com> X-Sender: mpenna@mail.vivanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 11:11:56 -0400 To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: Re: EFNet Server Listing updated! (Finally!) ;) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >Please give some credit to the person who sent you the list in the first place. > >(ME) > >Dennis Hurst (dhurst@appstate.campus.mci.net) D'OH! Sorry Dennis. I was going to and I didn't. Special thanks to Dennis for providing this list of EFNet servers! I owe him big time. -Matt Penna E-mail: mpenna@vivanet.com Home Page Under Construction ******************************************************************** * StH JJ1 Wks+++ AdS->+ Son+++i Sal+++^ Tal+++it Bun++ Rot++ Ant~ * * UnC++ Bks++ Rbk--/++ Pck--/+++ Snv~ Knu++ P++ Da $++++ Ay79 GM * ******************************************************************** From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 25 13:29:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA12123 for sonic-ll; Sat, 25 May 1996 13:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id NAA12113 for ; Sat, 25 May 1996 13:14:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from COMPAQ ([203.120.82.175]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA21266 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 01:14:10 +0800 X-Sender: prower@po.pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: prower@pacific.net.sg (Aaron Lye Soon Choy) Subject: Re: stuff Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 01:14:10 +0800 Message-ID: <19960525171408.AAA21266@COMPAQ> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net At 11:56 AM 24/5/96 -0500, you wrote: > >This next question dosnt have anything to do with my writing fanfic, Im just >curious.. > Am I missing something from the plot line? I dont understand the point of >having nothing but power plants and factories and no life on a planet. >Wheres the fun in haveing nothing but robot slaves? One possable answere is >that Robotnik is compleatly insain. > >Somebody have an asnwere to this? This seems like an interesting topic . Let's forget for a second that we're all pro-Sonic , and think a bit like Robotnik . You've just usurped control of a planet and sent it's rightful ruler into the Void . Now , it would be obvious that the planet's population would revolt if some measures were not taken to control them . So , what better way than to roboticize the whole lot ? According to some , over 90% of the population have been roboticized . Just think , the remaining 10% , esp. the Freedom Fighters are already causing trouble for Robotnik , what if he had allowed the entire population too remain sentient ? I would think that roboticizing an entire population would not be fun , but it sure is a great tactical move . If Robotnik had not roboticized the inhabitants of Mobius , he wouldn't have stayed ruler of Mobius as long as he did . That's my opinion . Anyone agree with me ? > > >the Cronyx >cronyx@cswnet.com >cronyx@troi.csw.net > > > > ______________________________________________________________________________ Aaron "Prower" Lye Maintainer , Sonic Fan Fiction Archives E-mail : prower@pacific.net.sg The Sonic Fan Fiction Archives : http://home.pacific.net.sg/~prower IRC Nick : TailsProw ______________________________________________________________________________ StH JJ1 WkS+++ Son++ Sal++ Tal+++t Bun++" Rot~ Ant++ Nic+ Dul+ UnC0 Bks+ Rbk0 Snv--/+ Knu+ Mut+ P+ Dwf $+++ E27 Ay78 GM ______________________________________________________________________________ Think : Say "miles per hour" fast . What do you get ? Miles Prower ! I'm guessing everyone knows this by now.... ______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 25 14:20:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA15408 for sonic-ll; Sat, 25 May 1996 13:50:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bigboote.WPI.EDU (root@bigboote.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id NAA15402 for ; Sat, 25 May 1996 13:50:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wpi.WPI.EDU (tedp@wpi.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.6]) by bigboote.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA19727; Sat, 25 May 1996 13:50:53 -0400 From: Theodore Patri Perrotti Received: (from tedp@localhost) by wpi.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.8.Alpha.1) id NAA29727; Sat, 25 May 1996 13:50:52 -0400 Message-Id: <199605251750.NAA29727@wpi.WPI.EDU> Subject: Re: stuff To: sonic@lists.mv.net Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 13:50:52 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tedp@WPI.EDU (Theodore Patri Perrotti) In-Reply-To: <199605251416.KAA17012@edmund> from "Dan Drazen" at May 25, 96 10:16:23 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net > > Does Nicole have a solid-hologram generated body, or is that fanfic? To which Dan Drazen replied: > > Not fanfic; in several eps, Nicole has generated holo images. > I took the above question to mean "Can Nicole take on any forms beside that of a handheld computer?" That is, can she morph? That's something I've seen her do only in fanfic. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I'd love to hang with you 'botheads, but I gotta' juice!"-Sonic the Hedgehog Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) perrottit.mbr@asme.org Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester Polytechnic Institute ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 25 16:59:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA25698 for sonic-ll; Sat, 25 May 1996 16:43:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA25683 for ; Sat, 25 May 1996 16:43:51 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA23227 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Sat, 25 May 1996 16:43:20 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 16:43:20 -0400 Message-ID: <960525164318_120902608@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: Re: X-files/Sonic music Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >I was watching X-files tonight, and low and behold, the htey >were in the arcade, you could here the music Sonic 1... Whoa! No way! I never watch X-files, so I wouldn't know. Wonder if they got permission from Sega to do that.... SUPER STH@aol.com Knuckles : "So -- you're the big mahmba-jahmba... Archimedes!" Archimedes (pointing to Knuckles) : "Look -- he's trying to think!" From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 25 17:29:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA25700 for sonic-ll; Sat, 25 May 1996 16:43:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA25682 for ; Sat, 25 May 1996 16:43:50 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA05271 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Sat, 25 May 1996 16:43:20 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 16:43:20 -0400 Message-ID: <960525164317_120902600@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: Re: No Subject Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >Well, I haven't heard anyone discuss the first issue of the KNUCKLES' mini-series. Let's just say this... if I gave my opinion, everyone would want to kill me. All my firends are saying that I didn't like it just because I have a thing against Knuckles.... *shrug*? SUPER STH@aol.com Knuckles : "So -- you're the big mahmba-jahmba... Archimedes!" Archimedes (pointing to Knuckles) : "Look -- he's trying to think!" From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 25 17:41:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA25699 for sonic-ll; Sat, 25 May 1996 16:43:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com (emout13.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.39]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA25688 for ; Sat, 25 May 1996 16:43:51 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA11328 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Sat, 25 May 1996 16:43:20 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 16:43:20 -0400 Message-ID: <960525164320_120902623@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: Re: stuff Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >One possable answere is that Robotnik is compleatly insain. Possible answer? HAH! I would've agreed to that without a single solitary second thought! If he was sane, wouldn't he have realized by now that there's no way that he's gonna win Mobius over? Let's just leave it at this... the big round guy is a loon. Just take Earth for an example... remember the dudes in the past that tried to rule it? Remember how it seemed like they would forever be in ultimate power? Remember how miserably they failed? SUPER STH@aol.com Knuckles : "So -- you're the big mahmba-jahmba... Archimedes!" Archimedes (pointing to Knuckles) : "Look -- he's trying to think!" From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 25 20:48:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA12072 for sonic-ll; Sat, 25 May 1996 20:27:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (rat@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id HAA18507; Sat, 25 May 1996 07:51:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 07:51:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: double posts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net I recently made it so the list says it's from lists.mv.net. However, in doing this it prevents it from being able to detect that it's the same addess as listname@bort.mv.net, so if somone makes a post like this: to: listname@lists.mv.net cc: listname@bort.mv.net it will post it twice!! So please, if you reply to a post, and it puts both of those addresses, delete the "bort" one, ok? Otherwise it will annoy us all to no end. ;) This will not be a problem once people stop using the bort address for posts. The reason this happens, is because if someone posts to listname@bort.mv.net, it will send it to the list as "to: listname@bort.mv.net" and "reply-to: listname@lists.mv.net" and mail programs will see that and try to write to both addresses. If you don't understand that, don't worry about it, just make sure you're not writing to both addresses in your mail program. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 25 22:50:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA20636 for sonic-ll; Sat, 25 May 1996 22:31:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com (emout15.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.41]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA20628 for ; Sat, 25 May 1996 22:31:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Sugahhog@aol.com Received: by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA16042 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Sat, 25 May 1996 22:30:46 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 22:30:46 -0400 Message-ID: <960525223045_400954768@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: Something of a Scientific Pamplet on Robotization Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >Subj: Re: stuff Date: 96-05-25 10:41:16 EDT From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Reply-to: sonic@lists.mv.net To: sonic@lists.mv.net Get comfortable fans of Mobius..this is a something of a lengthy but worthwhile post. :) > What is the actual scientific porcess for (sp?)robotazation? >Debatable. Some seem to favor a nanite-based technology while I prefer to think of it in terms of a biomechanical synthesis. And if I have to explain any of this further, you may be in over your head ;-). I've been a subscriber to this list for quite sometime, and a very occasional poster, and since I don't always have the time to read every message, I was wondering if the following hypothesis was ever introduced and just slipped by me in some quick scanning and deletions of unread mail. That said hypothesis being thus: The scientific process for robotization being based upon neither nanites or biomechanical synthesis, (unless I'm misinterpreting what is meant by that) but upon *other dimension energy conversion*. Consider the following facts that we know from the ABC show (which in my own humble opinion, seem to offer the most logic that I would take it for the most part to be canon over the comic for specific points, like UC operating a Chili dog stand. Yeesh. ) : 1) We learned that Uncle Chuck was the inventor of the Robotisizor, having invented it with the noble goal of using it to help Mobians live longer. More than likely, this goal was something of a parallel to "cryogenics" over here, wherin as people grow older and are more susceptable to disease and frailty, (or even with younger people, infants, children etc who are unfortunately afflicted) such frailty and disease could be "frozen" by the conversion, until a cure could be found for such dibilitating ailments wherein the subject would then be derobotisized and treated. A definate improvement over such an idea as cryogenics since one isn't "asleep" all that time. The problem though, as UC found, was the treatment took away the subject's free will so that either the subject was either nothing more than a mindless zombie (unknowing most probably that the "test subjects",-most probably lab animals of somesort, despite the anthromorphic nature of most beings on Mobius. The process would have to be tested on creatures with measurable intelligence-were, as he later discovered from his own first hand experience, awake and alert but just unable to interact), a "vegetable" of sorts where the subject was for all measurable respects "dead", or a different type of mindless zombie yet one that like a person under hypnosis, would do any instruction that was asked of him or her. As a scientist and compassionate hedgehog who respects the mind, which is in effect, the *life* of any sentient creature, to put any subject under such a treatment until a cure can be found for whatever ailment they have, even for a short time, is an abomination of an idea to UC and the project was either scrapped or tabled indefinately until such bugs in the system could be fixed (I know this is all common knoledge thus far, but there's a point to it which will follow in a moment. Please bear with me). Now as to *how* Robotization works, that I believe comes from a critical clue that we got from the episode "The Void". Fact 1) We know that again, UC is a scientist and a great inventor. He was the one that invented the power ring generator for Sonic to use (and which *only* the blue blur can use. I have developed a working theory on why this is as well, but I don't want to use this to take *too* long, so I'll cut to the chase. Interested parties about my musings may e-mail me directly). Now, the Powerstone which is what actually creates the Power Rings, we know, is very similar in its energy configuration to that of the Deep Power Stones which caused Robotnik's defeat in "The Doomsday Project". Therefore, for UC to have discovered how to adapt this power source (which falls in again with my unsaid working theory there) for use, and the fact that he created the Robotisizor, one could conclude that UC is very knoledgable in the workings of wave field energy. Using this conclusion, I have hypothesized thusly: 1) We know that there are other dimensions than the one Mobius is in, like the Void, that can be accessed via either science or sorcery. 2) Taking a look at The Void, we saw that an unfortunate side effect from prolonged exposure, upon subjecting a person from that unstudied dimension to another dimension, his or her home dimension or another (King Acorn for ex:, who went from The Void, back over to Mobius) was the transmutation of living matter into perhaps an unliving state of matter, or perhaps a living state of matter, but an unmobile one. (Being that we as well as Sonic and co, do not know even the slightest bit about the workings of the Void, save that it can be manipulated through magic, one could not really jump to the conclusion that were Nagus and King Acorn's transmutation allowed to take place fully, that their crystalline state would be a dead form of matter. After all, as it is hypothisized that *silicon* based life forms could exist on other planets, why not crystalline lifeforms from another dimension? Now, jumping right back to that idea of silicon based life, seeing that exposure to another dimension could in effect, "infuse" a subject with the energies inherit in that dimension, a process that would only be noticeable, or perhaps just more *quickly* noticable by passage *from* that dimension, why could not the same be said for the process of the Robotisizor? What I believe happened, is that UC, in his studies of other wave field energies that existed in other dimensions (through an again much longer synopsis of how these events took place sequentially), saw that the energies in shall we say Dimension R (for Robotization, natch) was able to transmute all living matter into its silicon and metal equivilant (One could wager a guess that perhaps silicon based life was the prominent or only life form present in that dimension, if sentient life was present at all). After all, matter, living or non, is simply *energy*, and as has been hypothesized by Gene Roddenbery and others, if a way could be found to turn matter into energy and back again (Transporter Technology) in Star Trek, then its entirely plausible that from exposure to another dimension, the energy of one's body could be infused for "adaptation", and transmuted, so that the body of the subject would be able to survive in any given medium. In The Void and Dimension R, this effect would not be redilly noticable as infusion is enough of an adaptation since the energy of the dimension is all about the subject. However, *remove* that subject from all that available energy, (bringing Nagus and Acorn to Mobius) and what energy (perhaps both the Void and Dimension R energies are *sentient* energies of some sort,) is inherent in the subject, is either forced to quickly adapt to maintain its survival by overwhelming and transmutating the living matter it has entered (sort of like the Vaccum effect in nature. There was no Void energy in Nagus and Acorn when they entered the dimension, so nature sought to "fill" that vaccum) and/or it could be that as Nagus suppossed, (since even he knew very little about The Void) in the Void only his magics kept the transformation in check, and that outside of "Sanctuary", even with his magic, that Void energy was powerful enough to run amok and transform them, the Void energy going from something of a symbiotic nature (since Naugus could control it in The Void) to a parasitic nature on Mobius where it was too powerful for him. A very close movie parallel could be seen in either version of "The Fly" wherin the scientist's DNA was simply "written over". Recent examples in Star Trek Voyager could be given as well when Tom Paris entered that place (which perhaps could be seen as another dimension, after all, isn't subspace in a sense?) beyond Warp 9.999etc and had *his* dna written over as well. Now, that covers my ideas on Robotization, but getting back to the point a few paragraphs previous with Uncle Chuck and his scrapping the project since it took away a subject's free will, there's one more important point to hypothysize upon. If the subject's free will was taken away, to the point that the subject would do anything asked of him/her, which is the only logical conclusion, since that "vegetable" bit UC found out to be untrue as he was the first one changed, then why is it that only Robotnik is able to control those Robotisized? Simple (sort of). As we know, Robotnik "stole" the plans for the Robotisizor. Beyond being in charge of the Military (Again, a timeline has been set up through the pondering of myself and some friends, that explains the connection this has with his being a scientist), we know that Robotnik is a brilliant scientist and inventor. We know that he knew about other dimensions as well, since he worked with Naugus in studying The Void before Naugus decided to go through to see what was there firsthand. Now, knowing a great deal about Robotics, and electronic pathways, ie: artificial intelligence shown in his Swat Bots and other bots, then what I believe he did was after studying the Robotisizor, all that he saw he had to do was to develop a program which as the subject was robotisized, would program one simple order into the subject's now electronic pathway laid "brain". That order being:, "Obey only him and Snivley", (though *him* first and foremost should Snively try a coup) Again, sort of like hypnotizing a person and putting a "conditioned reflex" into them, one that they could not resist no matter what. The rest of the orders as they came up, "Freedom Fighters are the enemy, No 1 Priority Hedgehog" and such, would be a simple matter to "install" since having told them to "obey" his every whim, all he would have to do is broadcast his desire, ie: Attack FF on sight" or whoever, even if they were members of the subjects own family, and that conditioned reflex would automatically kick in, storing that dictum for future "automatic" use, thus making the subject helpless to his or her own actions, and those non robotisized, unable to reach them. As the FF don't know how this program works, they have no feasible way of reaching the minds of those robotisized to stop them or help them. I know that Uncle Chuck is the veritable "hypothysis hole big enough to drive a mack truck through ", being that he was able to overcome his "programming", both losing his free will, and the orders that Robotnik imposed upon him, but again, I have reasoned that out logically as well. However, that explanation is a slightly lengthy one, involving The powerstone, (since powerrings were used to restore his memory, something which has only worked with UC since the FF have never used this trick on any other poor robotisized soul) so as this explanation has already gone on for a good length of time, I'll just leave the option open that those who are interested can e-mail me, or, if enough parties are interested, I'll post the explanation here. > Does Nicole have a solid-hologram generated body, or is that fanfic? Not fanfic; in several eps, Nicole has generated holo images. Yes, but those have always been transparencies, and never of living things. Well to be more precise, never of *life* size living things that could be mistaken for "real" since she did project Sally and Bunnie being captured by Naugus in the ep "The Void". Not to dictate what is and isn't in Nicole's ability to anyone who writes, but in my opinion, if it were, then wouldn't she have used that trick by now on the Swat Bots to distract them, perhaps disable them, and to interact with the FF before now? Nicole's solid-hologram generated body, to my knoledge, was first used in fanfic by a Sonic writer by the name of Prin Sal1 who used to be on America On Line, unless she first saw that adaptation of Nicole from another writer and used it for her own writings that I was unaware of. My own belief is that seeing the solid hologram "doctor" on Star Trek Voyager, she incorporated that holo technology into Nicole. After all, solid holos need magnetic wave field generators, and I don't think that Nicole has any of those built into her either or again, she would have told Sally about them by now for her practical usage. > > This next question dosnt have anything to do with my writing fanfic, Im just > curious.. > Am I missing something from the plot line? I dont understand the point of > having nothing but power plants and factories and no life on a planet. > Wheres the fun in haveing nothing but robot slaves? One possable answere is > that Robotnik is compleatly insain. > > Somebody have an asnwere to this? > >You hear about the power plants and factories because they're the preferred targets for the freedom fighters to hit. They don't go in for frontal assaults, preferring a strategy of hit-and-run. >Alternative answer: you hear about the power plants and factories because a) Robotnik relies on them to further his conquest of Mobius; b) the pollution generated by same isn't doing Mobius any good. As for Robotnik's insanity -- let's just say that, like a lot of dictators, he has trouble thinking things through. Not to mention the fact that as it has been said, not all that much of Mobius has been charted to our knoledge, for which all that tech which Robotnik is building up, could be used to spread his dominion over the planet as was just said above. Another feasible option is that as Robotnik does have the ability for space travel it could be reasoned, as he has the tech to launch objects into space or at the least low orbit (as we saw with the "Sky Spy" in season one), then its conceivable that Robotnik has plans to go conquer other habitable planets to add to his dominion, once his factories have created the necessary amount of technology and machinery needed. Is anyone out there knoledable with Superman canon and the stories of "Warword"? (Think Death Star for a close parallel if you don't.) If you do, then you can see what I'm driving at as a possibility. Or it could be that he *is* just plain crackers. ::shrug:: That's all for now! (This post has been brought to you by the friends of Uncle Chuck, Rotor, Gadget Hackwrench (Rescue Rangers) and other like minded furries who understand, enjoy and use long, convoluted explanations, or in the words of Foghorn Leghorn, "Longheaded Gobbledegoop." (Say Mr Drazen and Castiglia (Dan and Paul), any chance of finding an opening at Archie Comics for a person with all this imagination, love of Mobius, and few places to put it? ) >Just my $.02: >Plunking down a dollar in pennies for everything I just spilled out. ;) From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat May 25 23:22:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA23398 for sonic-ll; Sat, 25 May 1996 22:58:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nic.data.net.mx (nic.data.net.mx [200.13.16.8]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id WAA23393 for ; Sat, 25 May 1996 22:58:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ts5.data.net.mx (ts5.data.net.mx [200.13.16.44]) by nic.data.net.mx (8.6.12/CN-CONFIG-0.3) with SMTP id VAA25407 for ; Sat, 25 May 1996 21:54:43 -0600 Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 21:54:43 -0600 Message-Id: <199605260354.VAA25407@nic.data.net.mx> X-Sender: alexmon1@mailer.data.net.mx X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: alexmon1@data.net.mx (ALEXANDRA MONCAYO ORTEGA) Subject: Re: No Subject Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >>Well, I haven't heard anyone discuss the first issue of the KNUCKLES' >mini-series. > >Let's just say this... if I gave my opinion, everyone would want to kill me. > >All my firends are saying that I didn't like it just because I have a thing >against Knuckles.... >*shrug*? Hey here Kiri! You say thet you don't like Knuckles? Huh..that is really odd but it's ok I have something to say after long time.. I have a new homepage but I say the same you said...If I would give my address now they would kill me because my page is under works and it's totally focused to the Chaotix team's stuff..if someone is interested or want to add their links to my page,please send me e-mail... I have a guestbook,a counter,any other suggestion guys? I need your help to improve my page..OK! --------Have you seen to Knuckles?He escaped from me again!----------| The Chaotix page on-line...urghhh...building,sorry you can't see it | Knuckles' fan! Sonic+++ Tails++ But the Chaotix rules! | --------Kiri Megami,The echidna lass---------------------------------| From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 26 01:40:45 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id BAA10283 for sonic-ll; Sun, 26 May 1996 01:16:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA10278 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 01:16:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mime2.prodigy.com ([192.168.253.26]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA107246 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 01:16:24 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by mime2.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) id BAA28156 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Sun, 26 May 1996 01:12:57 -0400 Message-Id: <199605260512.BAA28156@mime2.prodigy.com> X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm02sc02 From: AHVT94B@prodigy.com ( THADDEUS BOYD) Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 01:12:57, -0500 To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: Re: stuff Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net Good job, we have a topic now! Your first question's already had undisputable answers, so on to the continuity questions... >First, does anyone use solid projectile weapons (guns that use bullets), >or all they all beam waepons? Hard to say. Plasma could be considered somewhere in-between beams and solids. The Freedom Fighters, on the other hand, haven't (to my remembrance) used any weapons on the cartoon, and in the comic have only used (relatively) primitive ones. >What is the actual scientific porcess for (sp?)robotazation? I'd say it certainly involves the goal of ancient alchemists -- to be able to transform any type of matter into any other. >How much of Mobious(sp?) does Robotnic control (pre-doomsday)? Well, the "90%" answer has been given, but we know for sure that, at the time, he didn't know about the existence of the Floating Island, so it's possible he didn't know about other hidden societies... (Skipping over next three questions, as they've been answered) Finally, regarding Robotnik's motives...nobody knows for sure, though I DO believe it's a variety of reasons. First off, I'd DEFINITELY agree that he's a sadistic psychopath. Second, he could be trying to prove something to former colleagues (a deduction that MIGHT be made from his taunting letter in The Hunt Begins). Third, as someone's said, once he got rid of King Acorn, he couldn't leave subjects to revolt against him. Fourth, he could be practicing on "inferior" beings for a takeover on another planet. Finally is the (extremely unlikely) possibility that he's not even doing it of his own accord, but is following orders from something more sinister. Of all these, I'd say only 1 and 3 truly follow from the given information; 2 being a remote possibility; 4 & 5 being just musings. >< 'Nuff Said. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 26 01:54:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id BAA10445 for sonic-ll; Sun, 26 May 1996 01:21:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from new-ls.lightspeed.net (root@new-ls.lightspeed.net [204.216.64.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id BAA10440 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 01:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.216.64.42] (bak-ppp-ls-006.lightspeed.net [204.216.64.42]) by new-ls.lightspeed.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id WAA22698 for ; Sat, 25 May 1996 22:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605260521.WAA22698@new-ls.lightspeed.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 22:24:08 -0700 To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: manning@lightspeed.net (Manning Richards) Subject: Re: Something of a Scientific Pamplet on Robotization Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net Wow, what a lengthy description! Well it is pretty interesting how it all falls into place. But I wanted to know is, now that Sally ((supposedly)) can use Power Rings, was it because of the sudden boost of energy vamped into her body by the power stones, or was it magic? >>Nicole, is she really capaple of indapendant thought? NickTheRat.aol@.com<< ((me people, its my AOL account)) I have a story out called Tell Tale Hell, and its main focus is about a living machine, a machine who can think and repair its self. I had pondered many beginings about how he would become sentient, but I never explained that in the story. So for all of you confused people out there ((who read it)) I will atempt to explain what happens. When Robotnik installed Nicks underdeveloped AI system, Iggy. ((which was made from the brain of a Freedom Fighter)) some of the Freedom Fighter instincs of escape and fight was rubbed off into his programming. By now his systems were being programmed to eleminate the FF's. But a freak act of humanization occured and Nick litterly ignored the commands, but did accept Iggys Escape and Fight instincts. And then the story continues from my story. Well ill try my best to set up more of a story line in the next TTH series Knee Deep In The Dead. See ya Mobians later From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 26 11:23:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA16125 for sonic-ll; Sun, 26 May 1996 11:13:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA16114 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 11:13:05 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA28873 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Sun, 26 May 1996 11:12:34 -0400 Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 11:12:34 -0400 Message-ID: <960526111233_542863697@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: Mobius... alternate Earth? Good question... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net I have heard this question many times before, and I assume that most of you have as well. It's a good one, thought up by fanfic basically, and does deserve some thinking through. I had pondered this somewhat, but then let it go to the back of my mind... until now. I just read Knuckles mini-series #1, and when I saw Enerjak, Egyptians instantly popped into my head. Think about it... the egyptian culture was very advanced for it's time, the most advanced in fact, and is still thought to be quite incredible. Thus, I assume that Knuckles' culture represents the Egyptians. Also, you all know about the rumors that anchient Egyptian treasures are guarded (of course, the guard would be dubbed the obvous title of guardian)... it all seems to fit in. Most of you have probably realized this by now, but I feel that this would be an interesting subject nonetheless. Now another question arises... where are the other alternate cultures? SUPER STH@aol.com Knuckles : "So -- you're the big mahmba-jahmba... Archimedes!" Archimedes (pointing to Knuckles) : "Look -- he's trying to think!" P.S.: Who else instantly thought of Stargate when they saw Enerjak? From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 26 13:14:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id MAA23631 for sonic-ll; Sun, 26 May 1996 12:54:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout16.mail.aol.com (emout16.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA23626 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 12:54:22 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA18229 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Sun, 26 May 1996 12:53:51 -0400 Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 12:53:51 -0400 Message-ID: <960526125350_401151138@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: Re: No Subject Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >Let's just say this... if I gave my opinion, everyone would want to kill me. All my firends are saying that I didn't like it just because I have a thing against Knuckles....< Well, I wouldn't kill you. I don't care if I hear comments of praise or criticsm. I just want to know if people are reading the book, and what they're likes an/or dislikes are. Ken From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 26 16:59:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA07345 for sonic-ll; Sun, 26 May 1996 16:33:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA07336 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 16:33:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mime3.prodigy.com ([192.168.253.27]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA83710 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 16:25:55 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by mime3.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) id QAA17936 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Sun, 26 May 1996 16:22:24 -0400 Message-Id: <199605262022.QAA17936@mime3.prodigy.com> X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm04sc03 From: XXAX26B@prodigy.com (NATE HARTEL) Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 16:22:24, -0500 To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: Re: stuff Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >Hard to say. Plasma could be considered somewhere in-between beams and >solids. The Freedom Fighters, on the other hand, haven't (to my >remembrance) used any weapons on the cartoon, and in the comic have only >used (relatively) primitive ones. 2 kinda progectile weapons ive seen in the show were the folowing In the episode "Sonic Racer" Sally used a flare gun to signal Sonic In the episode craqp I forgot, Iust watched it about 20 minutes ago, Sally puts Nicole on zap mode to break Sonic and her chains. Ashura Ive been taping Sonic episodes since 10:00 AM!!!! I managed to take my 5 tapes full of commercials and 2 tapes of my friends and get 20 eps!!!! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 26 21:08:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA27145 for sonic-ll; Sun, 26 May 1996 21:02:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (mmdf@vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA27137 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 21:02:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm1-ip65.vivanet.com by vivanet.vivanet.com id aa12884; 26 May 96 21:00 EDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960527010135.00704fbc@mail.vivanet.com> X-Sender: mpenna@mail.vivanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 21:01:35 -0400 To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: #Sonic policies-IMPORTANT Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net Hello, this is MilesProw, the head operator on #sonic. I am not currently in the greatest of moods, as I had hoped to avoid having to make an announcement like this one. If you are a #sonic channel visitor, or ever plan to visit in the future, then READ THIS NOTICE. In recent nights, we have had numerous problems on #sonic. I am not speaking of technical problems, but more of problems with some of you, the users. I have had SEVERAL people come to the channel claiming to be me, who have attempted to get op status. I've already dealt with several of the perpetrators personally, and I think I have been much more than fair in this regard. However, I'm getting sick of it. In the future, if anyone claims to be me, you will be banned from the channel at all times while I am there. I don't care if you were intending to take the channel over or just wanted to say to your pals, "Hey, I had op status last night!" Claiming to be me(Or any of the other ops) will be treated as a very serious offense, no matter what you intended to do once someone else opped you. No more cutesy-poo warnings and second chances. I suggest you don't screw up the first time around from now on. There have also been problems with takeover attempts, some of them successful, on #sonic. This is due to the fact that, despite my warnings on the Sonic IRC pages, everyone is being opped. As I said in the Web pages, opping everybody, including people you don't even KNOW is a very bad idea, as takeovers, bans, and general chaos are usually the result. As I said in the Web pages, (Notice I keep saying this. Some of you obviously haven't read them contrary to my advice to do so.) no one is to be opped except for the channel operators, which include Mighty, Jaybird, ^Speed^, and myself(MilesProw). If you get to the channel first and gain op status, then wait until one of the operators arrives and op them. Do not op anyone else, even if you know them. (More on this later.) Your op status will be revoked once one of the operators has arrived, without any need for explanation, as you are not entitled to it simply because you were there first. Handing over control of the channel without question will reflect favorably upon you. About opping people, don't ever op on Nickname alone. You MUST view someone's User@Host information by doing a /whois on them, by using mIRC's UCentral function, or by viewing the gobblediegook that appears next to a person's name when they enter the channel. This information is very difficult to fake (For most people), and should be used to determine if someone is actually who they claim to be. For example, Jaybird's User@host information reads: sonic2@cs1-02.lfd.ptd.net at least some of the time. (The part that reads csl-02 usually changes from session to session.) But the .lfd.ptd.net remains constant, as does the sonic2 (This is user defined and can be changed easily. Don't rely on this alone.) Become familiar with the operators' User@Host information when you use IRC and be ready to recognize it. One other problem that I have noticed recently is that some people seem to find it amusing to annoy other #sonic users. Naturally, having somebody piss you off while you're trying to relax detracts from your enjoyment. So, as blatantly obvious as this may seem to some of you, I have to tell others to try to act like a civil individual while they're using chat. (I find it hard to believe that you act this way when you're talking to somebody face to face. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.) If I tell you to stop doing something, you do it. This holds true with all of the other operators as well. Harassing other users, especially after I tell you to stop, is another SERIOUS offense, and you will be kick/banned. The ban will remain in effect for as long as the operators see fit. Another problem: People have been asking for ops. Let me put this to all of you plain and simple. I am not interested in having any more channel operators at this time. All of the operators are people that I implicitly trust. However, it does not work both ways. Even though I may trust you, it does not mean I will op you. It is not some personal thing, so don't think I hate you or anything like that. It is this way for EVERYONE. If I have to speak with you in private about a disruption that you might be causing, don't think that I don't trust you and I'll hate you forever or some other ridiculous thing like that. I will attempt to setlle all problems in a mature, civil manner the first time around. If you screw up again, then I'll be pissed off. Believe me, if you piss me off, I will let you know in the form of a kick, or maybe even a flood that will break your connection with your IRC server. (You can get back on again, but I don't think you'd want to deal with me when you get back. I suggest you wait at least a day for me to cool off.) If anyone has any concerns about what goes on #sonic, by all means, let me know. If I'm not there and some catastrophe happens, then E-mail me and tell me about it. If you are being annoyed by another user, let me know, especially if I'm there with you. If it happens when I'm not there, then try to get that person's E-mail address by FINGERing them. (It's under CTCP for you mIRC users.) If you don't get any information by doing this, make note of their user@host information and their nick. Then, send me an e-mail telling me what happened, including their nick and user@host. (An e-mail address would be most helpful, if you can get it.) As mad as I am about these problems, I should also say that the majority of you that come on the channel really make my day. Many of you have been great on the channel. It makes my job worthwhile, and I've even forged some new friendships. Keep it up, all of you! Please notice that I did not name any names in this post. That's because there have been several people responsible for everything that I've mentioned. If you're responsible for something that I've mentioned, knock it off and act semi-normal when you come to #sonic. I apologize for making such a LENGTHY post, but this seemed to be the best way to get everybody's attention. If you have not read the WWW pages, then GO DO IT. Looks Like I'll be making more updates shortly to include some of the stuff that I've mentioned in this post. As always, I am open to feedback. DO NOT DISCUSS THIS ON THE MAILING LIST, PLEASE. Any concerns should be directed to me privately. My e-mail address is in my signature. -Matt Penna E-mail: mpenna@vivanet.com Home Page Under Construction ******************************************************************** * StH JJ1 Wks+++ AdS->+ Son+++i Sal+++^ Tal+++it Bun++ Rot++ Ant~ * * UnC++ Bks++ Rbk--/++ Pck--/+++ Snv~ Knu++ P++ Da $++++ Ay79 GM * ******************************************************************** From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun May 26 22:27:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA00354 for sonic-ll; Sun, 26 May 1996 21:47:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bigboote.WPI.EDU (root@bigboote.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA00341 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 21:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wpi.WPI.EDU (tedp@wpi.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.6]) by bigboote.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00483; Sun, 26 May 1996 21:47:13 -0400 From: Theodore Patri Perrotti Received: (from tedp@localhost) by wpi.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.8.Alpha.1) id VAA11637; Sun, 26 May 1996 21:47:12 -0400 Message-Id: <199605270147.VAA11637@wpi.WPI.EDU> Subject: Re: stuff To: sonic@lists.mv.net Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 21:47:11 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tedp@WPI.EDU (Theodore Patri Perrotti) In-Reply-To: <199605262022.QAA17936@mime3.prodigy.com> from "NATE HARTEL" at May 26, 96 04:22:24 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net > In the episode craqp I forgot, Iust watched it about 20 minutes ago, > Sally puts Nicole on zap mode to break Sonic and her chains. > Sounds like the episode that introduced the Wolf Pack. BTW-I think that was a laser that Nicole used to break Sonic's chains. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Well, you do have HALF a brain."-Sonic the Hedgehog Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) perrottit.mbr@asme.org Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester Polytechnic Institute ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Mon May 27 14:43:50 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id OAA15320 for sonic-ll; Mon, 27 May 1996 14:15:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id OAA15310 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 14:15:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.com (en.com [204.89.181.1]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id OAA09208 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 14:15:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mighty.en.com (mighty@mighty.en.com [207.78.10.12]) by en.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id OAA06141 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 14:22:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605271822.OAA06141@en.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Doug LoConti" To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 02:21:29 +0000 Subject: Profile thingy Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net Well, I got to updating it just a wee bit. A FEW new characters, still needs work though. http://www.en.com/users/mighty School's almost out, guys, I SWEAR I'll get it up before I leave the country! (I'm going on a few trips this summer) :P -MiGHTY From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Mon May 27 14:52:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id OAA15662 for sonic-ll; Mon, 27 May 1996 14:23:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.ge.com (ns.ge.com [192.35.39.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id OAA15656 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 14:23:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from engr.erie.ge.com ([3.14.4.3]) by ns.ge.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA28096 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 14:23:16 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 14:23:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Ron Bauerle To: sonic@lists.mv.net, aa2043@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu, nefaria@aol.com, ray.rooney@dscmail.com, rune@delphi.com CC: BAUERLE@engr.erie.ge.com Message-Id: <960527142316.2c69@engr.erie.ge.com> Subject: Knuckles #1 (spoilers), was Re: No subject Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >From: KenP7672@aol.com >>Let's just say this... if I gave my opinion, everyone would want to kill me. >>All my firends are saying that I didn't like it just because I have a thing >>against Knuckles.... >Well, I wouldn't kill you. I don't care if I hear comments of praise or >criticsm. I just want to know if people are reading the book, and what >they're likes an/or dislikes are. OK, you asked for it :^) Spoiler form feed: The beginning was a bad start for me, since it seemed to be basically a rip-off of Indiana Jones and Raiders of the Lost Ark. And shouldn't the guardian of the Island (these days, Knuckles) be able to bypass all those traps and stuff? And death-traps seem a bit out-of-character for Knuckles' ancestors - were they so anti-technology they'd _kill_ to prevent it from getting out? And I have a hard time believing Knuckles is enough of an athlete to have escaped all those traps (and a harder time about his dreadlocks enabling him to fly). So Archimedes is an evolved fire-ant who dresses like Crocodile Dundee? Sorry, didn't work for me, but I don't believe in evolution (even if I did, to go from ants like we have today to sentience in a few hundred years (how old _is_ the Floating Island anyway?) is a bit much to swallow...) Speaking of swallowing: not to restart the "what meat do sentient furries eat?" thread, but I found it ironic that Archimedes was an ant and echidnas are spiny ANT-eaters... :^) And Enerjak being Dimitri after a long nap - I get the feeling of "been there done that" but we'll see where you take it... At least we now know Knuckles' knuckles are part of him (from the letter column), but it still requires a bit of suspension of belief that he can do what he does without discrete fingers... Bottom line: I've never been a Knuckles fan either, and only put up with him because he was part of Sonic's world. I'll see the mini-series through, but if it becomes a regular series, I'll probably give it a pass - the characters aren't cute furries like the Freedom Fighters, and my other tastes in comic books run more towards superheroes (which ended with Crisis on Infinite Earths - don't get me started on that), and Star-Trek, which also recently ended. I also collect Disney, but don't make a great effort to find the time to read them. Anyway, to get back on topic: I'd rather see more effort put into the Freedom Fighters (e.g., another Princess Sally or Tails mini-series). Sorry to be so negative, but I guess I see the whole Knuckles thing as one more exercise in pushing the video game stuff, which is understandable, but I just can't get into it... BTW, the art was good though :^) Ron From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Mon May 27 15:27:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA19778 for sonic-ll; Mon, 27 May 1996 15:14:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.ge.com (ns.ge.com [192.35.39.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id PAA19767 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 15:14:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from engr.erie.ge.com ([3.14.4.3]) by ns.ge.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA01339 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 15:14:38 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 15:14:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Ron Bauerle To: sonic@lists.mv.net, aa2043@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu, nefaria@aol.com, ray.rooney@dscmail.com, rune@delphi.com CC: BAUERLE@engr.erie.ge.com Message-Id: <960527151437.2e83@engr.erie.ge.com> Subject: Comments on Sonic #37 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net Spoiler form feed: I hate to be such a naysayer, but here goes: The cover didn't work for me in two areas: Sally seemed a bit paunchy, and I couldn't tell if Sonic was supposed to be flying (how?) or hanging onto something (how, again, with both arms full?). Story by Angelo Decesare, art by Brian Thomas. The art was OK, though Rotor on page 10 was out of perspective - he looked more like Butch Kowalski from Littlest Pet Shop :^) The story was OK, though I was expecting a continuation of last issue's King Acorn saga... The usual nitpicks follow: I don't think I buy the bit about Uncle Chuck staying a robot - if he (and presumably Muttski) are the only ones left, how will he still spy on Robotnik? (Assuming the deroboticization was permanent...) How convenient/lucky Sally gets clobbered like that and only ends up with a sprained arm and bruised head - anybody else would've had a broken spine or worse, but hey, this is a comic book :^) Robotnik lamenting his "beautiful city" after being wrecked by the quake? Seems to me he gloried in pollution and destruction - wouldn't a quake just hasten the process? The ending seemed a bit abrupt - not even a "to be continued", but the letter column indicates it will be... Now for the Bunnie story: Again, I hate to be negative, but I'll sum it up with one word: Dallas. If that didn't work, here's another one: take the title literally. About all I can say is "now that we got _that_ over with, can we get onto some _other_ Bunnie stories? Or is that all you can do with her?" The artwork by Rich Koslowski was great, but I'll let other drooling fanboys comment about the clear indication that she's all robot from the waist down, even her tail :^( FWIW, I just checked the title credits on the show, as well as "Sonic Conversion", and they both show she's organic from the waist up. Also FWIW, I notice the title sequence and first episode gave Sally solid-blue eyes, yet the second season gave her blue eyes and black pupils (with a white dot); I prefer the latter, but I digress... After I just now checked Bunnie's de- and re-roboticization in Sonic Conversion, I'm afraid this story didn't have quite the same emotional impact, but that's probably being unfair, comparing animated sound cartoon with a voiceless, unmoving comic book. Still, that shot of Bunnie on page 3 and her tearful departure on page 7 weren't anything to sneeze at. However, I'm still disappointed at the ending - I think I would have preferred some technobabble solution over the one that was offered. Oh well, I suppose any Bunnie story is better than none at all :^) I didn't recognize any names in the "find your name in print page" - does anybody from the list write to the comic itself? And whatever happened to that "notes from the net" idea? RDB From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Mon May 27 17:14:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA28531 for sonic-ll; Mon, 27 May 1996 16:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from new-ls.lightspeed.net (root@new-ls.lightspeed.net [204.216.64.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id QAA28526 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 16:56:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.216.66.57] (bak-ppp-ba-021.lightspeed.net [204.216.66.57]) by new-ls.lightspeed.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id NAA29965 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 13:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605272056.NAA29965@new-ls.lightspeed.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 13:59:09 -0700 To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: manning@lightspeed.net (Manning Richards) Subject: Re: Profile thingy Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >Well, I got to updating it just a wee bit. A FEW new characters, >still needs work though. Hey thats cool! Well Iv'e been pretty busy getting the Comic finished, as well as the Rapid Paws:The Game=81 Rp game finished. Ill see yas later. =46red From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Mon May 27 18:19:03 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA00783 for sonic-ll; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA00776 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:43:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mime2.prodigy.com ([192.168.253.26]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA66336 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:43:13 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by mime2.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) id RAA16484 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:41:24 -0400 Message-Id: <199605272141.RAA16484@mime2.prodigy.com> X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm02sc02 From: thad_x_boyd@prodigy.com ( THADDEUS BOYD) Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 17:41:24, -0500 To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: Re: Something of a Scientific Pamplet on Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net Yow...a sentient robot with a Freedom Fighter's brain? And *I* thought it was a freak coincidence when Ryan Huber and Eric Goodwin wrote about Freedom Fighters coming from Earth at the same time! >< Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional. From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Mon May 27 18:24:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA00792 for sonic-ll; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:43:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA00784 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mime2.prodigy.com ([192.168.253.26]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA56882 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:43:19 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by mime2.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) id RAB16496 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:41:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199605272141.RAB16496@mime2.prodigy.com> X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm02sc02 From: thad_x_boyd@prodigy.com ( THADDEUS BOYD) Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 17:41:26, -0500 To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: Re: Mobius... alternate Earth? Good ques Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net Interesting...the Floating Island being a parallel to ancient Egypt. QUITE intriguing. I haven't picked up Knuckles #1 yet, but I AM a believer in Mobius and Earth being parallels of the same planet... >Now another question arises... where are the other alternate >cultures? Bunnie and Antoine would be examples of them. >< 'Nuff Said. From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Mon May 27 23:30:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA29996 for sonic-ll; Mon, 27 May 1996 23:16:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from new-ls.lightspeed.net (root@new-ls.lightspeed.net [204.216.64.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA29990 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 23:16:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.216.66.66] (bak-ppp-ba-030.lightspeed.net [204.216.66.66]) by new-ls.lightspeed.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id UAA21770 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 20:15:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605280315.UAA21770@new-ls.lightspeed.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 20:18:33 -0700 To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: manning@lightspeed.net (Manning Richards) Subject: Re: Something of a Scientific Pamplet on Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net hey thanks! I try to do my best, heck I might even submit some of my stuff into Archie for a review. From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Tue May 28 09:00:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id IAA20321 for sonic-ll; Tue, 28 May 1996 08:48:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA20309 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 08:48:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA20381; Tue, 28 May 1996 08:48:36 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id IAA15774; Tue, 28 May 1996 08:48:37 -0400 Message-Id: <199605281248.IAA15774@edmund> Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic #37 (spoilers) To: sonic@lists.mv.net Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 08:48:36 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <960527151437.2e83@engr.erie.ge.com> from "Ron Bauerle" at May 27, 96 03:14:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net Ron: You do a pretty good job of teasing. Too bad I still have to wait a week and a half before I find out what the heck you're talking about. I've long had respect for the "Sonic Conversion" ep -- I've said repeatedly that this was the ep that put the show over the top for me. Any story that invites conparison has already got my interest. I think I understand the Dallas reference and I am filled with dread. Will see. ================================================================ || ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen || |\__-- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu || | / __ _ ||Sonic: "Whoa, you're not going to || //\ / \ /__ || use the L-word, are you?" || | o| 0|__ --_ ||Tails: "Well...." || \\____-- __ \ ___ - ||Sonic: "Then I will...I love you, || (@@ __/ / /_ || little bro." || -_____--- --_ ||AoStH: "Tails' New Home" ================================================================ From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Tue May 28 12:30:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id MAA17125 for sonic-ll; Tue, 28 May 1996 12:16:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mhv.net (root@csbh.mhv.net [199.0.0.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA17119 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 12:16:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aslan.com by mhv.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA17070; Tue, 28 May 1996 12:18:00 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 May 96 12:15:04 From: R_Kid@aslan.com (R Kid) Organization: Aslan Control Technologies,Inc. Subject: Need ROM Server To: sonic@bort.mv.net Message-Id: <1880038.ensmtp@aslan.com> Priority: normal X-Mailer: ExpressNet/SMTP v1.1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net Hi guys. It's your freindly netterhood Racewing again, needing a little help. A few months ago, I asked if anyone out there had made a "dedicated" Sonic MUD. There wasn't one, so I and my buddies decided to make one ourselves, called "Realms of Mobius." As of late, we've got all the plans drawn out, and we're ready to code, except for one thing... we don't have any place to put the darn thing! We tried to find some places, but to no avail. I tried to keep from asking this over the mailing list (I don't want his to be a reerun of the "Twisted Mettle" fiasco, but since Team Racewing is at the end of their rope... Do you guys know of anyplace that lets their users log in to a UNIX based shell so we can get a port and run this thing? (****PREFERABLY*** free, we're just poor litle schoolkids! :) ) Thanx. (Pardon the spelling, i have 5 mins. to get to class.) "The Terror that Hacks in the Night" Geson Hatchett/Racewing Kid Sonikode: StH JJ1 Breezie++! Quote o' the day: "I have nothing!! Aaaaaa...." -Al Bundy P.S. "TAM" is coming! From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Tue May 28 15:00:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id OAA07778 for sonic-ll; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:59:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from appstate-01.campus.mci.net (appstate-01.campus.mci.net [204.71.75.162]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id OAA07771 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:59:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from s08-pm01.appstate.campus.mci.net (s08-pm01.appstate.campus.mci.net [206.24.85.37]) by appstate-01.campus.mci.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA22541 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:59:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:59:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605281859.OAA22541@appstate-01.campus.mci.net> X-Sender: dhurst@appstate.campus.mci.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: Dennis Hurst Subject: New Site from Alt.FAn.Sonic-Hedgehog Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net While looking at A.F.S-H, I came across a site that someone should link to http://www.netten.net/~inhandra Site identifies itself as the Floating Island Warning: To avoid the Large Graphic, Use Http://www.netten.net/~inhandra/start.htm Dennis Hurst (dhurst@appstate.campus.mci.net) *********************************************************** StH JJ1 WkS++ Arc++ Son+i Sal++^ Tal++ Bun+++"t! P+ Do &+++ E27 A22 Gm *********************************************************** From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Tue May 28 15:30:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA08251 for sonic-ll; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:04:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.INS.CWRU.Edu (hk512@piglet.INS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.8.16]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id PAA08236 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:04:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (hk512@localhost) by piglet.INS.CWRU.Edu (8.6.12+cwru/CWRU-2.1-bsdi) id PAA02409; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:04:37 -0400 (from hk512) Message-Id: <199605281904.PAA02409@piglet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 15:04:37 -0400 From: hk512@cleveland.freenet.edu (Joseph Delacroix) To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: Re: Need ROM Server Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net Well, not to steal your thunder or anything, but several fanfic writers and myself have been slowly constructing a Mobius on a MUCK named Sociopolitical Ramifications. It is located at svansmoj.ctrl-c.liu.se 23, and it's gradually becoming rather expansive. We're still looking for builder-types, familiar with the art of writing good descriptions for rooms, and some knowledge of MUCK building technique is preferred. If you go there, a wizard will probably be around to make you a character. After that, you can simply take a 64-bit bus to Mobius. Regards, Joe. -- FurryMUCK: furry.org 8888 (Joe_Fox) | Joseph deLaCroix hk512@po.cwru.edu SPR: svansmoj.ctrl-c.liu.se (Joe) | The CDA is bad. http://www.eff.com/ FT: 198.211.131.13 9999 (Joe) | StH Fanfic -- http://rat.org/bookshire FurryFuzz: yiff.azaccess.com 8888 | ObMedia: http://www.suck.com/ From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Tue May 28 18:30:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA04051 for sonic-ll; Tue, 28 May 1996 18:25:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA04043 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 18:25:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (granite-d27.sierra.net [206.153.184.27]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA20858 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:25:55 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960528222127.006770d0@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 15:21:27 -0700 To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: double posts Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net At 07:51 AM 5/25/96 -0400, you wrote: >I recently made it so the list says it's from lists.mv.net. >However, in doing this it prevents it from being able to detect that it's >the same addess as listname@bort.mv.net, so if somone makes a post like >this: > >to: listname@lists.mv.net >cc: listname@bort.mv.net > >it will post it twice!! > >So please, if you reply to a post, and it puts both of those addresses, >delete the "bort" one, ok? Otherwise it will annoy us all to no end. ;) > >This will not be a problem once people stop using the bort address for >posts. The reason this happens, is because if someone posts to >listname@bort.mv.net, it will send it to the list as "to: >listname@bort.mv.net" and "reply-to: listname@lists.mv.net" and mail >programs will see that and try to write to both addresses. >If you don't understand that, don't worry about it, just make sure you're >not writing to both addresses in your mail program. > Heh heh. Sure thing, Ratman! -Chris From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Tue May 28 19:00:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA04902 for sonic-ll; Tue, 28 May 1996 18:37:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from new-ls.lightspeed.net (root@new-ls.lightspeed.net [204.216.64.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA04893 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 18:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.216.64.62] (bak-ppp-ls-026.lightspeed.net [204.216.64.62]) by new-ls.lightspeed.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id PAA24114 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605282237.PAA24114@new-ls.lightspeed.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 15:40:07 -0700 To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: manning@lightspeed.net (Manning Richards) Subject: Re: Need ROM Server Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net Well you can try Taperstries MUCK. They might let you guys make that. Fred From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Tue May 28 19:02:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA03738 for sonic-ll; Tue, 28 May 1996 18:22:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA03732 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 18:22:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (granite-d27.sierra.net [206.153.184.27]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA20855 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:25:52 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960528222124.0067af3c@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 15:21:24 -0700 To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: stuff Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net At 01:50 PM 5/25/96 -0400, you wrote: >> > Does Nicole have a solid-hologram generated body, or is that fanfic? > >To which Dan Drazen replied: > >> >> Not fanfic; in several eps, Nicole has generated holo images. >> > >I took the above question to mean "Can Nicole take on any forms beside >that of a handheld computer?" That is, can she morph? That's something >I've seen her do only in fanfic. I've wondered if Nicole can morph AND take that person's special abilities. For example, she morphed into Sonic and saved the FF in times of danger. Oh well. Just a little more confusion to the arguement. -Chris >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >"I'd love to hang with you 'botheads, but I gotta' juice!"-Sonic the >Hedgehog > >Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) > perrottit.mbr@asme.org > >Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester >Polytechnic Institute >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Tue May 28 19:20:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA03868 for sonic-ll; Tue, 28 May 1996 18:23:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sard.mv.net (root@sard.mv.net [192.80.84.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA03861 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 18:23:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by sard.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-941101) with ESMTP id SAA03146 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 18:23:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (granite-d27.sierra.net [206.153.184.27]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA20852 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:25:47 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960528222120.0066e458@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 15:21:20 -0700 To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: stuff Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net At 01:14 AM 5/26/96 +0800, you wrote: >At 11:56 AM 24/5/96 -0500, you wrote: >> > >>This next question dosnt have anything to do with my writing fanfic, Im just >>curious.. >> Am I missing something from the plot line? I dont understand the point of >>having nothing but power plants and factories and no life on a planet. >>Wheres the fun in haveing nothing but robot slaves? One possable answere is >>that Robotnik is compleatly insain. >> >>Somebody have an asnwere to this? > >This seems like an interesting topic . Let's forget for a second that we're >all pro-Sonic , and think a bit like Robotnik . You've just usurped control >of a planet and sent it's rightful ruler into the Void . Now , it would be >obvious that the planet's population would revolt if some measures were not >taken to control them . So , what better way than to roboticize the whole >lot ? According to some , over 90% of the population have been roboticized . >Just think , the remaining 10% , esp. the Freedom Fighters are already >causing trouble for Robotnik , what if he had allowed the entire population >too remain sentient ? I would think that roboticizing an entire population >would not be fun , but it sure is a great tactical move . > >If Robotnik had not roboticized the inhabitants of Mobius , he wouldn't have >stayed ruler of Mobius as long as he did . > >That's my opinion . Anyone agree with me ? Hmmm. Lemme re-read that again. Yea, you have a point there, Aaron. The Freedom Fighters are enough trouble as it is with Rotubbynik. -Chris Flinn dflinn@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us P.S. I'm baaaack -Speed >> >>the Cronyx >>cronyx@cswnet.com >>cronyx@troi.csw.net >> >> >> >> >______________________________________________________________________________ >Aaron "Prower" Lye >Maintainer , Sonic Fan Fiction Archives >E-mail : prower@pacific.net.sg >The Sonic Fan Fiction Archives : http://home.pacific.net.sg/~prower >IRC Nick : TailsProw >______________________________________________________________________________ >StH JJ1 WkS+++ Son++ Sal++ Tal+++t Bun++" Rot~ Ant++ Nic+ Dul+ UnC0 Bks+ >Rbk0 Snv--/+ Knu+ Mut+ P+ Dwf $+++ E27 Ay78 GM >______________________________________________________________________________ >Think : Say "miles per hour" fast . What do you get ? Miles Prower ! >I'm guessing everyone knows this by now.... >______________________________________________________________________________ > > > > From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Wed May 29 12:00:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA26466 for sonic-ll; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:42:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mhv.net (root@csbh.mhv.net [199.0.0.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA26458 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:42:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aslan.com by mhv.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA11243; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:44:12 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 May 96 11:45:04 From: R_Kid@aslan.com (R Kid) Organization: Aslan Control Technologies,Inc. Subject: 'Bot Food... To: sonic@bort.mv.net Message-Id: <1883947.ensmtp@aslan.com> Priority: normal X-Mailer: ExpressNet/SMTP v1.1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net I was looking through my Sonic eps last weekend (the Sonic content of my blood is dangerously low at present) and came across "Spyhog". Now, something I saw in this ep has been bugging me for a while now. Sonic goes to Uncle Chuck's hideout and gives him a chili dog. Chuck eats the dog... and says it's delicious. Now, I'm not and expert on robotics, but how could his systems handle a fod meant for organics? And how could he TASTE it with a metal tongue? Just something to think about. Hope you guys didn't discuss this yet (I haven't read ALL the list archives...) "The Terror That Hacks in the Night" Geson Hatchett/Racewing Kid Quote o' the day: "Aha! The world's biggest nerd... Bill Gates! Are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but... Snowball for Windows?" -Pinky and the Brain Racewing r_kid@aslan.com Sonikode (revised yet again; be careful, this one's a whopper:) StH JJ1 Wks++++ Ads+++ Arc++ Son+ Sal+++^! Bun0 Anti Grn++ Swt? Snv0/^ Ngs+++ Amy+ PVS+ Fio? Breezie+++! P+ Dof{w} $+++ E21 Ee27 Eee04 A15 GM From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Wed May 29 16:00:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA03762 for sonic-ll; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:55:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com (emout15.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.41]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA03752 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:55:05 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA18876 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:54:34 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 15:54:34 -0400 Message-ID: <960529155433_403146700@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: Re: Knuckles #1 (spoilers), was Re: No subject Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >The beginning was a bad start for me, since it seemed to be basically a rip-off of Indiana Jones and Raiders of the Lost Ark. And shouldn't the guardian of the Island (these days, Knuckles) be able to bypass all those traps and stuff? And death-traps seem a bit out-of-character for Knuckles' ancestors - were they so anti-technology they'd _kill_ to prevent it from getting out? < Sorry you didn't like the Indiana Jones riff, but we were determined to get the series off with a bang. However, don't chalk up the death-traps entirely to the echidnas who disavowed technology. There are more than a few secrets to the Grand Conservatory waiting to be revealed. A hint of things to come is revealed in issue #3. >And I have a hard time believing Knuckles is enough of an athlete to have escaped all those traps (and a harder time about his dreadlocks enabling him to fly).< Whether or not YOU chose to believe KNUCKLES has the ability to survive all those traps is one thing. It wasn't just athletic ability alone, he had to outwit the gauntlet as well. As for his powers of flight, SEGA says he can GLIDE through the air. It works for me. >So Archimedes is an evolved fire-ant who dresses like Crocodile Dundee? Sorry, didn't work for me, but I don't believe in evolution (even if I did, to go from ants like we have today to sentience in a few hundred years (how old _is_ the Floating Island anyway?) is a bit much to swallow...)< Who said we showed only a few hundred years of history? And who says those fire-ants WEREN'T on the same intelligence level as Archimedes? We could barely squeeze in the plot points and characterizations that we did. >Speaking of swallowing: not to restart the "what meat do sentient furries eat?" thread, but I found it ironic that Archimedes was an ant and echidnas are spiny ANT-eaters... :^)< This was DELIBERATE on our part, and we address this with great relish (pun intended) in the second issue. >And Enerjak being Dimitri after a long nap - I get the feeling of "been there done that" but we'll see where you take it...< Maybe you have, but what about the kids who are part of the audience as well? My nine year old son and his friends are eating this stuff up. >Bottom line: I've never been a Knuckles fan either, and only put up with him because he was part of Sonic's world. I'll see the mini-series through, but if it becomes a regular series, I'll probably give it a pass - the characters aren't cute furries like the Freedom Fighters, and my other tastes in comic books run more towards superheroes (which ended with Crisis on Infinite Earths - don't get me started on that), and Star-Trek, which also recently ended. I also collect Disney, but don't make a great effort to find the time to read them. Anyway, to get back on topic: I'd rather see more effort put into the Freedom Fighters (e.g., another Princess Sally or Tails mini-series).< This is a legitimate POV. However, if this does become a regular series, you'll be missing out on some interaction with SONIC and the FF if you do. (You have heard of crossovers, haven't you?) Also, initial reaction to the KNUCKLES mini-series seems to be STRONGER than PRINCESS SALLY or TAILS. If sales supports this, it's a good chance there'll be more of everyone's favorite echidna. And Archie isn't playing favorites either. They would love to see a TAILS or PS series do as well as SONIC. It's you the fans who determine what is produced and what isn't. Ken From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Wed May 29 17:00:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA11679 for sonic-ll; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:52:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.ge.com (ns.ge.com [192.35.39.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id QAA11625 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:51:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from engr.erie.ge.com ([3.14.4.3]) by ns.ge.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA00452 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:51:29 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 16:51:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Ron Bauerle To: sonic@lists.mv.net, aa2043@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu, nefaria@aol.com, ray.rooney@dscmail.com, rune@delphi.com CC: BAUERLE@engr.erie.ge.com Message-Id: <960529165128.3c36@engr.erie.ge.com> Subject: Re: Knuckles #1 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >From: KenP7672@aol.com (quoting me (Ron Bauerle)) >Sorry you didn't like the Indiana Jones riff, but we were determined to get >the series off with a bang. However, don't chalk up the death-traps entirely >to the echidnas who disavowed technology. There are more than a few secrets >to the Grand Conservatory waiting to be revealed. A hint of things to come is >revealed in issue #3. _3_? So as to end it on a cliff-hanger whether or not a regular series results? Oh well, if ABC could do it... :^) >Whether or not YOU chose to believe KNUCKLES has the ability to survive all >those traps is one thing. It wasn't just athletic ability alone, he had to >outwit the gauntlet as well. As for his powers of flight, SEGA says he can >GLIDE through the air. It works for me. I guess if I could accept it for Gargoyles, I should accept it for him too, eh? :^) (But at least they have wings...) >>Speaking of swallowing: not to restart the "what meat do sentient furries >>eat?" thread, but I found it ironic that Archimedes was an ant and echidnas >>are spiny ANT-eaters... :^) >This was DELIBERATE on our part, and we address this with great relish (pun >intended) in the second issue. Heh - OK... :^) >>And Enerjak being Dimitri after a long nap - I get the feeling of "been >>there done that" but we'll see where you take it...< >Maybe you have, but what about the kids who are part of the audience as well? >My nine year old son and his friends are eating this stuff up. Fair enough - just shows how hard it is to write a "universal" comic that appeals to the next generation _and_ the "seen it all" 36-year-old geezers like me... >>I'd rather see more effort put into the Freedom Fighters (e.g., >>another Princess Sally or Tails mini-series). >This is a legitimate POV. However, if this does become a regular series, >you'll be missing out on some interaction with SONIC and the FF if you do. >(You have heard of crossovers, haven't you?) Yup; which series would address Knuckles' and Sally's past? :^) >Also, initial reaction to the >KNUCKLES mini-series seems to be STRONGER than PRINCESS SALLY or TAILS. If >sales supports this, it's a good chance there'll be more of everyone's >favorite echidna. And Archie isn't playing favorites either. They would love >to see a TAILS or PS series do as well as SONIC. It's you the fans who >determine what is produced and what isn't. Well, to be fair, it's been stated on the list (by Paul C, I think) that the marketing/distribution for PS was basically botched (I don't remember anything said about Tails though). But I suppose even if it hadn't been, given that the main audience is pre-adolescent boys, I suppose PS would always come out behind Knuckles. Oh well, c'est la vie... Ron From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Wed May 29 23:30:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA28557 for sonic-ll; Wed, 29 May 1996 23:27:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from appstate-01.campus.mci.net (appstate-01.campus.mci.net [204.71.75.162]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA28544 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 23:27:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from s23-pm01.appstate.campus.mci.net (s23-pm01.appstate.campus.mci.net [206.24.85.52]) by appstate-01.campus.mci.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA01945 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 23:27:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 23:27:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605300327.XAA01945@appstate-01.campus.mci.net> X-Sender: dhurst@appstate.campus.mci.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: Dennis Hurst Subject: Re: 'Bot Food... Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net At 11:45 AM 5/29/96, you wrote: > >I was looking through my Sonic eps last weekend (the Sonic content of my blood >is dangerously low at present) and came across "Spyhog". Now, something I saw >in this ep has been bugging me for a while now. Sonic goes to Uncle Chuck's >hideout and gives him a chili dog. Chuck eats the dog... and says it's >delicious. Now, I'm not and expert on robotics, but how could his systems >handle a fod meant for organics? And how could he TASTE it with a metal >tongue? Just something to think about. Hope you guys didn't discuss this yet >(I haven't read ALL the list archives...) > > >"The Terror That Hacks in the Night" >Geson Hatchett/Racewing Kid > AH here is the part that gets tecnical. The possibliity is that Robotization replaces certain senses with Robotic counterparts (eyes with optic sensors, ears with audio recptors, ect.) Look at Commander Data from the Star Trek: TNG series. He uses sensors in his mouth to taste, and food is converted into another power source(Don't ask How I know this, I don't remember the book I was reading, possible a source book for RPG). I hope this helps somewhat. =:-) Dennis Hurst (dhurst@appstate.campus.mci.net) *********************************************************** StH JJ1 WkS++ Arc++ Son+i Sal++^ Tal++ Bun+++"t! P+ Do &+++ E27 A22 Gm *********************************************************** From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Thu May 30 15:50:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA25115 for sonic-ll; Thu, 30 May 1996 15:43:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (mmdf@vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA25105 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 15:43:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm2-ip121.vivanet.com by vivanet.vivanet.com id aa17091; 30 May 96 15:41 EDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960530194234.00716e88@mail.vivanet.com> X-Sender: mpenna@mail.vivanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 15:42:34 -0400 To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: Re: 'Bot Food... Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >AH here is the part that gets tecnical. The possibliity is that Robotization >replaces certain senses with Robotic counterparts (eyes with optic sensors, >ears with audio recptors, ect.) Look at Commander Data from the Star Trek: >TNG series. Here's another thing. Any of you trekkers on the list (I know that at least SOME of you must be! ;) would probably remember that Data could not "taste" things until the movie, Generations. In an episode of the series, the little boy that he befriended (Timothy) asked him, "How does it taste? Is it good?" And Data replied, "I cannot 'taste' things in the manner you suggest." He needed the emotion chip in order to interpret the taste and decide whether it was pleasurable or not. Now, getting back to the 'bot question, does this mean that the worker bots actually possess some range of emotions? Assuming you keep the Star Trek parallel, emotions would be necessary to interpret the taste of something as good, bad, bitter, sweet, whatever. Making another reference to Trek, Data verbally analyzed the dessert that he was drinking. However, since he had never 'tasted' anything before, he was unable to translate that analysis into some kind of emotional response. He left it simply as, "The complex polysaccharides...combined with the carbon dioxide..." With Uncle Chuck, he might have analyzed the chili dog in the same way (Analyzed its sugar, fat, and protien content) and translated that into tasting good. The only reason that he would be able to do this is because he had felt the emotion in the past, and would know what constitutes something that tastes 'good' or 'bad.' One other possibility being that Uncle Chuck was just putting Sonic on, and only said what he did because it was something that would be expected, and he was being polite. (Haven't seen the ep in question, so I can't really comment further.) This probably ties back to the entire free will discussion all over again. Free will is tied to emotions, as well, I suppose. -Matt Penna E-mail: mpenna@vivanet.com Home Page Under Construction ********************************************************************* * StH JJ1 Wks+++ AdS-->+ Son+++i Sal+++^ Tal+++it Bun+++ Rot++ Ant~ * * UnC++ Bks++ Rbk--/++ Pck--/+++ Snv~ Knu++ P+ Da $++++ Ay79 GM * ********************************************************************* From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Thu May 30 18:10:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA16204 for sonic-ll; Thu, 30 May 1996 18:04:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com (emout15.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.41]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA16198 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 18:04:04 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA12114 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Thu, 30 May 1996 18:03:34 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 18:03:34 -0400 Message-ID: <960530180236_404002571@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: Re: Mobius... alternate Earth? Good ques Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >>Now another question arises... where are the other >>alternate cultures? > >Bunnie and Antoine would be examples of them. That is true, but then again, it's not... What I meant by this seemingly meaningless sentence is that the Floating Island seems to represent anchient Egypt. Bunnie and Antoine would be great examples of the alternate socieities... but where are they from? And where on Earth would that be considered the alternate of? Gee... looks like I came up with a subject. SUPER STH@aol.com Knuckles : "So -- you're the big mahmba-jahmba... Archimedes!" Archimedes (pointing to Knuckles) : "Look -- he's trying to think!" From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Thu May 30 20:30:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA02488 for sonic-ll; Thu, 30 May 1996 20:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from troi.csw.net (cronyx@troi.csw.net [206.185.164.23]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA02476 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 20:25:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from cronyx@localhost) by troi.csw.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA20654; Thu, 30 May 1996 19:27:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 19:27:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Cronyx To: sonic@lists.mv.net cc: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: 'Bot Food... In-Reply-To: <1883947.ensmtp@aslan.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net On Wed, 29 May 1996, R Kid wrote: > > I was looking through my Sonic eps last weekend (the Sonic content of my blood > is dangerously low at present) and came across "Spyhog". Now, something I saw > in this ep has been bugging me for a while now. Sonic goes to Uncle Chuck's > hideout and gives him a chili dog. Chuck eats the dog... and says it's > delicious. Now, I'm not and expert on robotics, but how could his systems > handle a fod meant for organics? And how could he TASTE it with a metal > tongue? Just something to think about. Hope you guys didn't discuss this yet > (I haven't read ALL the list archives...) > > > "The Terror That Hacks in the Night" > Geson Hatchett/Racewing Kid > > Quote o' the day: > > "Aha! The world's biggest nerd... Bill Gates! Are you pondering what I'm > pondering?" > "I think so, Brain, but... Snowball for Windows?" > -Pinky and the Brain > > > > Racewing > r_kid@aslan.com > Sonikode (revised yet again; be careful, this one's a whopper:) > StH JJ1 Wks++++ Ads+++ Arc++ Son+ Sal+++^! Bun0 Anti Grn++ Swt? Snv0/^ > Ngs+++ Amy+ PVS+ Fio? Breezie+++! P+ Dof{w} $+++ E21 Ee27 Eee04 A15 GM > > > > Well, what about Data from ST TNG? If he can, than why not UC? Sorry for the long quote, but if I deleted it, I have to do it charister by charecter. the Cronyx cronyx@cswnet.com cronyx@troi.cswnet From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Thu May 30 20:40:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA02477 for sonic-ll; Thu, 30 May 1996 20:25:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from troi.csw.net (cronyx@troi.csw.net [206.185.164.23]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA02468 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 20:25:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from cronyx@localhost) by troi.csw.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA20654; Thu, 30 May 1996 19:27:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 19:27:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Cronyx To: sonic@lists.mv.net cc: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: 'Bot Food... In-Reply-To: <1883947.ensmtp@aslan.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net On Wed, 29 May 1996, R Kid wrote: > > I was looking through my Sonic eps last weekend (the Sonic content of my blood > is dangerously low at present) and came across "Spyhog". Now, something I saw > in this ep has been bugging me for a while now. Sonic goes to Uncle Chuck's > hideout and gives him a chili dog. Chuck eats the dog... and says it's > delicious. Now, I'm not and expert on robotics, but how could his systems > handle a fod meant for organics? And how could he TASTE it with a metal > tongue? Just something to think about. Hope you guys didn't discuss this yet > (I haven't read ALL the list archives...) > > > "The Terror That Hacks in the Night" > Geson Hatchett/Racewing Kid > > Quote o' the day: > > "Aha! The world's biggest nerd... Bill Gates! Are you pondering what I'm > pondering?" > "I think so, Brain, but... Snowball for Windows?" > -Pinky and the Brain > > > > Racewing > r_kid@aslan.com > Sonikode (revised yet again; be careful, this one's a whopper:) > StH JJ1 Wks++++ Ads+++ Arc++ Son+ Sal+++^! Bun0 Anti Grn++ Swt? Snv0/^ > Ngs+++ Amy+ PVS+ Fio? Breezie+++! P+ Dof{w} $+++ E21 Ee27 Eee04 A15 GM > > > > Well, what about Data from ST TNG? If he can, than why not UC? Sorry for the long quote, but if I deleted it, I have to do it charister by charecter. the Cronyx cronyx@cswnet.com cronyx@troi.cswnet From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Thu May 30 21:40:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA09957 for sonic-ll; Thu, 30 May 1996 21:33:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA09946 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 21:33:52 -0400 (EDT) From: SonicKC@aol.com Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA23812 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Thu, 30 May 1996 21:33:21 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 21:33:21 -0400 Message-ID: <960530213321_124365023@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: Re: No Subject Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net All right, Ken, you asked for everyone's honest opinion of the Knuckles mini-series, so here's mine: I personally REALLY liked it. I think that it was definitely worth the wait, and I can't wait to see #2! However, I did have to wonder how Archimedes knew about Enerjak when he had been trapped under Mount Fate for all that time... ;-) Sonic KC And now, for my Sonic code: StH JJ1 WkS+++ AdS- Arc+++ Son++! Sal++i Tal+++t Bun++" Knu+++! Amy+++i Mecha-Sonic+++ The Chaotix+++ Gef++ P+ Dfoh $+++ E27 Ee09 A12 GF From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Thu May 30 22:20:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA15370 for sonic-ll; Thu, 30 May 1996 22:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from new-ls.lightspeed.net (root@new-ls.lightspeed.net [204.216.64.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id WAA15364 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 22:10:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.216.64.77] (bak-ppp-ls-041.lightspeed.net [204.216.64.77]) by new-ls.lightspeed.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id TAA04185 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 19:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605310209.TAA04185@new-ls.lightspeed.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 19:13:04 -0700 To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: manning@lightspeed.net (Manning Richards) Subject: Re: No Subject Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net I dont really have a opinion, for one thing, none of the stors around here carry any of the STH comics. ::SIGH!:: From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Thu May 30 22:30:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA15777 for sonic-ll; Thu, 30 May 1996 22:17:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.airmail.net (server-f.iadfw.net [206.66.12.40]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA15772 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 22:17:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.73) id ; Thu, 30 May 96 21:17:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 May 96 21:17:31 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: lca254@mail.airmail.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: lca254@airmail.net (Lu Cananza) Subject: Re: No Subject Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >All right, Ken, you asked for everyone's honest opinion of the Knuckles >mini-series, so here's mine: I personally REALLY liked it. I think that it >was definitely worth the wait, and I can't wait to see #2! However, I did >have to wonder how Archimedes knew about Enerjak when he had been trapped >under Mount Fate for all that time... ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Do you want to be penpals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sonic >KC >And now, for my Sonic code: >StH JJ1 WkS+++ AdS- Arc+++ Son++! Sal++i Tal+++t Bun++" Knu+++! Amy+++i >Mecha-Sonic+++ The Chaotix+++ Gef++ P+ Dfoh $+++ E27 Ee09 A12 GF > > From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Thu May 30 23:40:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA23044 for sonic-ll; Thu, 30 May 1996 23:34:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.airmail.net (server-f.iadfw.net [206.66.12.40]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA23039 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 23:34:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.73) id ; Thu, 30 May 96 22:34:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 May 96 22:34:11 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: lca254@mail.airmail.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: lca254@airmail.net (Lu Cananza) Subject: Re: No Subject Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net Do you want to be penpals? From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Thu May 30 23:50:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA23209 for sonic-ll; Thu, 30 May 1996 23:38:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.airmail.net (server-f.iadfw.net [206.66.12.40]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA23199 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 23:37:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.73) id ; Thu, 30 May 96 22:37:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 May 96 22:37:55 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: lca254@mail.airmail.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: lca254@airmail.net (Lu Cananza) Subject: Re: No Subject Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >>All right, Ken, you asked for everyone's honest opinion of the Knuckles >>mini-series, so here's mine: I personally REALLY liked it. I think that it >>was definitely worth the wait, and I can't wait to see #2! However, I did >>have to wonder how Archimedes knew about Enerjak when he had been trapped >>under Mount Fate for all that time... ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Do you want to be penpals? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sonic >>KC >>And now, for my Sonic code: >>StH JJ1 WkS+++ AdS- Arc+++ Son++! Sal++i Tal+++t Bun++" Knu+++! Amy+++i >>Mecha-Sonic+++ The Chaotix+++ Gef++ P+ Dfoh $+++ E27 Ee09 A12 GF >> >> >>>>> Do you want to be penpals? > > From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Fri May 31 00:20:05 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id AAA10112 for sonic-ll; Fri, 31 May 1996 00:15:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.airmail.net (server-f.iadfw.net [206.66.12.40]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA10101 for ; Fri, 31 May 1996 00:15:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.73) id ; Thu, 30 May 96 23:15:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 May 96 23:15:45 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: lca254@mail.airmail.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: lca254@airmail.net (Lu Cananza) Subject: Re: No Subject Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >Do you want to be penpals? >>> Do you?? > > From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Fri May 31 08:50:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id IAA22094 for sonic-ll; Fri, 31 May 1996 08:48:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA22077 for ; Fri, 31 May 1996 08:48:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA13134; Fri, 31 May 1996 08:48:30 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id IAA09429; Fri, 31 May 1996 08:48:32 -0400 Message-Id: <199605311248.IAA09429@edmund> Subject: Re: Mobius... alternate Earth? Good ques To: sonic@lists.mv.net Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 08:48:31 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <960530180236_404002571@emout15.mail.aol.com> from "SUPERSTH@aol.com" at May 30, 96 06:03:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net > > What I meant by this > seemingly meaningless sentence is that the Floating > Island seems to represent anchient Egypt. Bunnie and > Antoine would be great examples of the alternate > socieities... but where are they from? And where on > Earth would that be considered the alternate of? > > Gee... looks like I came up with a subject. > > SUPER STH@aol.com > Not having seen Knuckles #1 (and I won't get the chance for another week), I can't very well judge the Egyptian motif. However, there do seem to be distinct "cultures" on Mobius, reinforced by the existence of variant dialects of the language. Again, the handicap is that nobody seems to have plotted out a comprehensive social geography of Mobius, let alone a physical one. 'Twas ever thus. Going back to the greatest furry book ever written, Richard Adams' "Watership Down," you have several distinct cultures even within the same species: the warrens of Hazel and Fiver, of Strawberry, and of General Woundwort, are each different in their own way. My own gut reaction as an author: the various writers/artists who have has their hands in creating Mobius have cast around for Earth models and thrown them together. The burden of the fan is to see these random models as part of a cohesive whole when said whole never got around to being created. Hey, nobody said this was going to be easy! ================================================================ || ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen || |\__-- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu || | / __ _ ||Sonic: "Whoa, you're not going to || //\ / \ /__ || use the L-word, are you?" || | o| 0|__ --_ ||Tails: "Well...." || \\____-- __ \ ___ - ||Sonic: "Then I will...I love you, || (@@ __/ / /_ || little bro." || -_____--- --_ ||AoStH: "Tails' New Home" ================================================================ From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Fri May 31 11:23:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA10376 for sonic-ll; Fri, 31 May 1996 11:18:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA10364 for ; Fri, 31 May 1996 11:18:19 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00906 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Fri, 31 May 1996 11:17:48 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 11:17:48 -0400 Message-ID: <960531111746_404495049@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: Re: No Subject Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >However, I did have to wonder how Archimedes knew about Enerjak when he had been trapped under Mount Fate for all that time... ;-)< The implications here are just as history and property have been handed down through generations of echidnas, so too with the fire-ants have their history been handed down through the generations. However, the fire-ants have a different perspective from the echidnas. Also, who says all your questions will be answered in THIS mini-series? Ken From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Fri May 31 11:30:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA10498 for sonic-ll; Fri, 31 May 1996 11:19:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA10491 for ; Fri, 31 May 1996 11:19:39 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA01589 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Fri, 31 May 1996 11:19:07 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 11:19:07 -0400 Message-ID: <960531111907_404495855@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: Re: No Subject Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >I dont really have a opinion, for one thing, none of the stors around here carry any of the STH comics. ::SIGH!::< That's why Archie Comics offers subscriptions and back issues, so you don't have to miss out on the fun. :-) Ken From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Fri May 31 11:40:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA10714 for sonic-ll; Fri, 31 May 1996 11:24:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA10708 for ; Fri, 31 May 1996 11:24:04 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA03632 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Fri, 31 May 1996 11:23:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 11:23:33 -0400 Message-ID: <960531112333_404498333@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: Re: No Subject Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >Do you want to be penpals?< I respond to any letter I think needs responding. If you wish to write, feel free to do so. However, you may not always get a response for various reasons, most of them dealing with having time for my work and personal life. OK? Ken From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Fri May 31 11:42:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA11107 for sonic-ll; Fri, 31 May 1996 11:29:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com (emout15.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.41]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA11086 for ; Fri, 31 May 1996 11:29:33 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA13152 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Fri, 31 May 1996 11:29:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 11:29:03 -0400 Message-ID: <960531112902_404501618@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: Re: Mobius... alternate Earth? Good ques Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >However, there do seem to be distinct "cultures" on Mobius, reinforced by the existence of variant dialects of the language. Again, the handicap is that nobody seems to have plotted out a comprehensive social geography of Mobius, let alone a physical one.< Mike and I have envisioned a world-view concept concerning Mobius. The problem being is that we haven't had the chance to really touch on this except in a superficial way. We've hinted at a larger geography via maps and certain sequences. Remember STH #31? The Dynamac-3000 was being shipped to the western part of the continent Sonic lives on for crowd control in that sector. The bottom line is: there are various groups of Freedom Fighters, but this series concerns itself with the GREATEST FREEDOM FIGHTERS OF THEM ALL. Ken From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Fri May 31 18:40:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA04722 for sonic-ll; Fri, 31 May 1996 18:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from new-ls.lightspeed.net (uucp@new-ls.lightspeed.net [204.216.64.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA04712 for ; Fri, 31 May 1996 18:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by new-ls.lightspeed.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) id PAA24594 for ; Fri, 31 May 1996 15:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605312230.PAA24594@new-ls.lightspeed.net> Received: from bak-ppp-ls-014.lightspeed.net(204.216.64.50) by new-ls.lightspeed.net via smap (V1.3) id sma024569; Fri, 31 May 96 15:30:09 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 15:33:17 -0700 To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: manning@lightspeed.net (Manning Richards) Subject: Re: No Subject Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net Whats their address? From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Fri May 31 19:30:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA11387 for sonic-ll; Fri, 31 May 1996 19:28:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bigboote.WPI.EDU (root@bigboote.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id TAA11378 for ; Fri, 31 May 1996 19:28:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wpi.WPI.EDU (tedp@wpi.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.6]) by bigboote.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.3/8.8.Alpha.3) with ESMTP id TAA01818; Fri, 31 May 1996 19:28:14 -0400 From: Theodore Patri Perrotti Received: (from tedp@localhost) by wpi.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.3/8.8.Alpha.3) id TAA27514; Fri, 31 May 1996 19:28:14 -0400 Message-Id: <199605312328.TAA27514@wpi.WPI.EDU> Subject: Re: No Subject To: sonic@lists.mv.net Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 19:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tedp@WPI.EDU (Theodore Patri Perrotti) In-Reply-To: <199605312230.PAA24594@new-ls.lightspeed.net> from "Manning Richards" at May 31, 96 03:33:17 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net > > What's their address? > > > What's who's address? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Well, you do have HALF a brain."-Sonic the Hedgehog Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) perrottit.mbr@asme.org Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester Polytechnic Institute ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Fri May 31 22:10:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA28517 for sonic-ll; Fri, 31 May 1996 22:08:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA28512 for ; Fri, 31 May 1996 22:08:37 -0400 (EDT) From: SonicKC@aol.com Received: by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA13744 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Fri, 31 May 1996 22:08:07 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 22:08:07 -0400 Message-ID: <960531220806_125156705@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: Re: Knuckles #1 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net In a message dated 96-05-29 17:06:26 EDT, you wrote: >>>Speaking of swallowing: not to restart the "what meat do sentient furries >>>eat?" thread, but I found it ironic that Archimedes was an ant and echidnas > >>>are spiny ANT-eaters... :^) > >>This was DELIBERATE on our part, and we address this with great relish (pun >>intended) in the second issue. Oh no...I assume that this means what I think it does (Knuckles DOES eat bugs, right?). Well, I'll add this to my list of reasons to buy Knuckles #2; I wouldn't miss that for the world...;-) Sonic KC And now, for my Sonic code: StH JJ1 WkS+++ AdS- Arc+++ Son++! Sal++i Tal+++t Bun++" Knu+++! Amy+++i Mecha-Sonic+++ The Chaotix+++ Gef++ P+ Dfoh $+++ E27 Ee09 A12 GF From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Fri May 31 22:20:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA28529 for sonic-ll; Fri, 31 May 1996 22:09:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA28524 for ; Fri, 31 May 1996 22:08:57 -0400 (EDT) From: SonicKC@aol.com Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA12971 for sonic@lists.mv.net; Fri, 31 May 1996 22:08:26 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 22:08:26 -0400 Message-ID: <960531220825_125156926@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@lists.mv.net Subject: Re: 'Bot Food... Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net In a message dated 96-05-30 20:40:34 EDT, you wrote: > I was looking through my Sonic eps last weekend (the Sonic content of my >blood >> is dangerously low at present) and came across "Spyhog". Now, something I >saw >> in this ep has been bugging me for a while now. Sonic goes to Uncle >Chuck's >> hideout and gives him a chili dog. Chuck eats the dog... and says it's >> delicious. Now, I'm not and expert on robotics, but how could his systems >> handle a fod meant for organics? And how could he TASTE it with a metal >> tongue? Just something to think about. Hope you guys didn't discuss this >yet >> (I haven't read ALL the list archives...) >> >> >> "The Terror That Hacks in the Night" >> Geson Hatchett/Racewing Kid >> A 'bot eating? Very unusual-and very foolish. I never eat, since I don't have to in order to survive, and it would wreak havoc on my internal systems. A robot's body isn't designed to handle food (at least mine isn't), but maybe it's different for roboticized creatures. --Mecha-Sonic P.S. For those of you who wonder why I [Mecha-Sonic] am posting to this list, it's because I am now an official Freedom Fighter. Read the upcoming fanfic "Hearts of Steel" for the whole story (I will get it up...I promise). From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Fri May 31 23:00:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA04117 for sonic-ll; Fri, 31 May 1996 22:55:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from appstate-01.campus.mci.net (appstate-01.campus.mci.net [204.71.75.162]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id WAA04112 for ; Fri, 31 May 1996 22:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from s04-pm01.appstate.campus.mci.net (s04-pm01.appstate.campus.mci.net [206.24.85.33]) by appstate-01.campus.mci.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA14535 for ; Fri, 31 May 1996 22:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 22:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606010255.WAA14535@appstate-01.campus.mci.net> X-Sender: dhurst@appstate.campus.mci.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: Dennis Hurst Subject: Information wanted Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net In the most recient copy of STH (#37 for record purposes. I just picked up two days ago) Sonic does a selfless act. (don't worry, This is not the plot of the story. It is at the end of it.) Is there any othe time that he does one or is this the first. P.S. someone should put this issue cover on a poster (Sonic, Sally and Uncle Chuck with Two SWATS.) Dennis Hurst (dhurst@appstate.campus.mci.net) *********************************************************** StH JJ1 WkS++ Arc++ Son+i Sal++^ Tal++ Bun+++"t! P+ Do &+++ E27 A22 Gm *********************************************************** From owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Fri May 31 23:20:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA04956 for sonic-ll; Fri, 31 May 1996 23:10:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.airmail.net (server-f.iadfw.net [206.66.12.40]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA04949 for ; Fri, 31 May 1996 23:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.73) id ; Fri, 31 May 96 22:10:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 31 May 96 22:10:24 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: lca254@mail.airmail.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@lists.mv.net From: lca254@airmail.net (Lu Cananza) Subject: Re: Mobius... alternate Earth? Good ques Sender: owner-sonic@lists.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@lists.mv.net >> >> What I meant by this >> seemingly meaningless sentence is that the Floating >> Island seems to represent anchient Egypt. Bunnie and >> Antoine would be great examples of the alternate >> socieities... but where are they from? And where on >> Earth would that be considered the alternate of? >> >> Gee... looks like I came up with a subject. >> >> SUPER STH@aol.com >> > >Not having seen Knuckles #1 (and I won't get the chance for another >week), I can't very well judge the Egyptian motif. However, there do >seem to be distinct "cultures" on Mobius, reinforced by the existence of >variant dialects of the language. Again, the handicap is that nobody >seems to have plotted out a comprehensive social geography of Mobius, >let alone a physical one. > >'Twas ever thus. Going back to the greatest furry book ever written, >Richard Adams' "Watership Down," you have several distinct cultures even >within the same species: the warrens of Hazel and Fiver, of Strawberry, >and of General Woundwort, are each different in their own way. My own >gut reaction as an author: the various writers/artists who have has >their hands in creating Mobius have cast around for Earth models and >thrown them together. The burden of the fan is to see these random >models as part of a cohesive whole when said whole never got around to >being created. Hey, nobody said this was going to be easy! > >================================================================ >|| < ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen >|| |\__-|- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu >|| | / __ _ ||Sonic: "Whoa, you're not going to >|| //\ / \ /__ || use the L-word, are you?" >|| | <| >|__ --_ ||Tails: "Well...." >|| \\____-- __ \ ___ - ||Sonic: "Then I will...I love you, >|| (## __/ / /_ || little bro." >|| -___|_|_--- --_ ||AoStH: "Tails' New Home" >================================================================ > >