From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 14:27:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA10326 for sonic-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:12:08 -0500 Received: from ns2.ac.edu ([134.224.1.29]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA10321 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:12:04 -0500 Received: from jaguar.ac.edu by ns2.ac.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02945; Mon, 1 Apr 96 14:17:11 EST Received: by jaguar.ac.edu (wcGATE v4) id 32279W Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:10:54 GMT From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) Subject: Faster? Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:47:38 GMT Message-Id: <96040115105436164@jaguar.ac.edu> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sorry Guys, but loyalty aside, there's little to no doubt that the Flash is faster than Sonic (especially in the more rfecent comics). I mean, he can outrun LIGHT. Even with a DOZEN power rings the Blue Streak can't match that. OTOH, the hedgehog is far COOLER, which is what's REALLY important. rob From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 15:01:05 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA12013 for sonic-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:42:32 -0500 Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (cunyvm.cuny.edu [128.228.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA11995 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:42:28 -0500 Received: from diana.hchs.hunter.cuny.edu by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Mon, 01 Apr 96 14:42:22 EST Received: from DIANA/SpoolDir by diana.hchs.hunter.cuny.edu (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 1 Apr 96 14:59:09 -500 Received: from SpoolDir by DIANA (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 1 Apr 96 14:56:47 -500 From: "Racewing Kid" Organization: Hunter College High School To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:56:37 EST5EDT Subject: Re: Who's faster? X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Message-ID: <14E37A8320A@diana.hchs.hunter.cuny.edu> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > Date sent: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 15:51:16 -0500 (EST) > To: sonic@bort.mv.net > From: Jason Shank > Subject: Who's faster? > Send reply to: sonic@bort.mv.net > > > Hi, Gang, > > Here's a tantalizing question. Who's faster, The Flash, Superman, > >or Sonic The Hedgehog? (I can't wait to hear the replies on this.) Please, > >tell me what you all think, (or know). Just in case you're wondering, > >no-this is NOT a survey, it's just for fun. > Have to go with the Flash on this one guys... but I'd consider Sparkster the Rocket Knight a pretty worthy candidate too (if he could ever do continuous flight. Just to add a little fuel to the fire. "The Terror that Hacks in the Night" Geson Hatchett/Racewing Kid Writer for BOTH Sonic the Hedgehog Cartoon series, ASCII lover, and Plain Nice Guy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote o' the day: It slices! It dices! It... runs... out of... gas...! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -Darkwing Duck -Racewing ghatchet.98@diana.hchs.hunter.cuny.edu Sonikode: Breezie++! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 15:01:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA11198 for sonic-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:29:43 -0500 Received: from inet.uni-c.dk (inet.uni-c.dk [130.228.6.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA11191 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:29:40 -0500 Received: from arh145.ppp.uni-c.dk (arh145.ppp.uni-c.dk [130.228.13.145]) by inet.uni-c.dk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA17935 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 21:26:17 +0200 Received: by arh145.ppp.uni-c.dk with Microsoft Mail id <01BB2012.2AD4A620@arh145.ppp.uni-c.dk>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 21:28:28 +-200 Message-ID: <01BB2012.2AD4A620@arh145.ppp.uni-c.dk> From: Michael Emil Hansen To: "sonic@bort.mv.net" Subject: RE: Information... Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 21:26:28 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net ---------- From: Doug LoConti[SMTP:mighty@en.com] Sent: 1, april 1996 08.38 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Information... >At 08:47 PM 3/31/96 -0800, you wrote: >> If anyone sent me e-mail regarding the Sonic movie, please e-mail = me >again. My modem had been down for a few days and I received no mail. = But >it's fine now. >> >>-Lydia >>hti@kaiwan.com >> >>NOTE: I have no idea if the information in the Gamepro is accurate, so = if >the movie is not what I say, don't blame me. >> > >I'd like info on the movie please. > >Michael Kraft (empire@eden.rutgers.edu) >Computer Engineering Student >Rutgers University, NJ, USA >URL =3D http://remus.rutgers.edu/~empire > > as would i.... whoever has info on this, just post it, please... :) = thanx... --------------------------------------------------------- =09 |\/| I G H T \/ @ E N . C O M =20 / =20 "Was many years ago that I left home and came this way.." =20 "no brave new world, no brave new world..." -Iron Maiden, Stranger in a Strange Land =20 0 } I can run, I can FLY.... \|/ } I am immortal.... =20 / \ } I will live and never die... -Queen =20 ---------------------------------------------------------- One more in the line! =DA=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C2=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=BF =B3 ___------__ =B3 =C9=CD=CD=CD =C9=CD=CD=CD = =C9=CD=CD=BB =C9=CD=CD=BB =B3 =B3 |\__-- /\ _- =B3 =CC=CD=CD =CC=CD=CD =CD=CD = =BA =BA =B3 =B3 | / __ _ =B3 =CA =CA =C8=CD=CD=BC = =C8=CD=CD=BC =B3 =B3 //\ / \ /__ =B3 Knothole. = =B3 =B3 | o| 0|__ --_ =B3 = =B3 =B3 \\____-- __ \ ___ - =B3 Commander Sonic Data. = =B3 =B3 (@@ __/ / /_ =B3 E-mail soniccsd@inet.uni-c.dk = =B3 =B3 -_____--- --_ =B3 ASCII Sonic by Han J. Lee = =B3 =C0=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C1=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=D9 From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 15:24:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA15490 for sonic-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:16:48 -0500 Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA15485 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:16:45 -0500 Received: from mailout3.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.97]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA16172 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:16:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 15:14:14 EST From: XXAX26B@prodigy.com (BRADY N HARTEL) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-086.45] Message-Id: <097.04922402.XXAX26B@prodigy.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: RE: Sonic Movie Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Well, I just thought of this, but I think if Tim Allen would do a voice, he would do mabe Knuckles? or Jack Ni might do Mecha Sonic? remeber, these were never n the show so think about it. Ashura Hyper sektor is No more "Life sucks, pain hurts, live with it" From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 15:24:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA14797 for sonic-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:02:55 -0500 Received: from iwaynet.net ([198.30.29.7]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA14791 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:02:52 -0500 Received: from port195.iwaynet.net by iwaynet.net (8.7.1/SMI-4.1) id PAA00719; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:00:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:00:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199604012000.PAA00719@iwaynet.net> X-Sender: eggleton@mailbox.iwaynet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: eggleton@iwaynet.net (Kulock) Subject: Re: faster? Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > Hi, Gang, > Here's a tantalizing question. Who's faster, The Flash, Superman, >or Sonic The Hedgehog? (I can't wait to hear the replies on this.) Please, >tell me what you all think, (or know). Just in case you're wondering, >no-this is NOT a survey, it's just for fun. > > -Chris Flinn > A net Freedom Fighter for Mobius > (Man, I've got to come up with a better line than that) > Howabout.... > -Chris Flinn > A net Robuttnik Kicker for Mobius "Yea.. I like it!" > > Tails!!! =) -Knuck's/Tails the Echidna/Fox..no..still not right.. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 15:30:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA15717 for sonic-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:23:27 -0500 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA15708 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:23:24 -0500 Received: from iwaynet.net (iwaynet.iwaynet.net [198.30.29.7]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with ESMTP id OAA02196 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:58:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from port195.iwaynet.net by iwaynet.net (8.7.1/SMI-4.1) id OAA00367; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:55:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:55:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199604011955.OAA00367@iwaynet.net> X-Sender: eggleton@mailbox.iwaynet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: eggleton@iwaynet.net (Kulock) Subject: Re: Info about the Sonic Japan cartoon Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >On Sun, 31 Mar 1996, The Necromancer wrote: > >> >Kiken here, low and behold I believe that it is! I wish the pic was a >> >little clearer though. :( >> >> Metal Sonic is finally getting into the cartoons! I wonder what his voice >> (if he has one) sounds like? >> > >Kiken here, well, there are only 5 voice actor credits on the page, >Sonic's, Tails', Dr. Eggman's, Knuckles', and Sarah's. Its possible that >he does speak, but either its one of two thing: > >#1, its probably only a line or two and would only be mentioned in the >credits at the end of the episode > >or > >#2, one of the before mentioned character voice actors does him as well, >kinda like how in the US Sat am show, Sally and Nicole are the same voice >actress. > >Kiken signing off. >ASOBIWA...OWARIDA! >Sayonara. > >This message from the Baltimore Ronin, >homepage at: >http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~cmugg1 >Ikuze! > > /---/ |\ /\ "To live a life of power, > / / | \ / \ you must have faith in what you > / / | / / \ believe, even if others tell you > ------- |/ /------\ you are wrong; > / __ |\ __|__ The first step to living a life of > / | | | \ | | | power is to find courage, you must > / | _| | / |__|__| be prepared to reach beyond the >/ |_____| |/ | boundaries of time itself; > | / \ And to do that, all you need is the > will to take that very first step." > > Sonic > > > Is there a chance for this anime to be Dubbed or subtitled? I'd love to see it, nbut I don't kno Japanese.. Thanks.. -Knuck's/Knuck's the Echidna/Echidna....wait..that's not right.. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 15:35:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA11184 for sonic-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:29:28 -0500 Received: from inet.uni-c.dk (inet.uni-c.dk [130.228.6.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA11178 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:29:25 -0500 Received: from arh145.ppp.uni-c.dk (arh145.ppp.uni-c.dk [130.228.13.145]) by inet.uni-c.dk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA17891 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 21:25:59 +0200 Received: by arh145.ppp.uni-c.dk with Microsoft Mail id <01BB2012.1E28A160@arh145.ppp.uni-c.dk>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 21:28:07 +-200 Message-ID: <01BB2012.1E28A160@arh145.ppp.uni-c.dk> From: Michael Emil Hansen To: "sonic@bort.mv.net" Subject: RE: weekday sonic cartoon Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 21:24:12 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net ---------- From: Alessandro Sanasi[SMTP:sonicgroup@deco.franken.de] Sent: 1, april 1996 01.45 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: weekday sonic cartoon Hi there, fellow Sonic fans. I would like to make a list with all the episode titles from the weekday = =20 Sonic cartoon (you know... the one with Scratch, Grounder and Coconuts). = =20 Alas, all I got from my local TV network was a list with the _german_ =20 titles (I live in Germany, and of course the german titles are totally =20 different to the american ones). Now I need your help to complete the =20 list: Anyone who has seen any of the weekday Sonic cartoons, please send me = the =20 episode title, the author(s) and a few sentences describing what the =20 episode was about, so I can find it on the list I have. If you remember = =20 the names of some characters that appeared only in this episode, please = add them too. If you all support this, maybe I can soon post a list with all the = german =20 _and_ american episode titles of the weekday Sonic cartoon. Please send = =20 your infos to weekday@deco.franken.de There are 65 episodes of the weekday cartoon, so I need every support I = can get here :) Thanks in advance Alessandro --- You get what anyone gets. You get a lifetime. Why doun=B4t you try TCC=B4s homepage? You shot fint it ad = Webcrawler.com =DA=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C2=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=BF =B3 ___------__ =B3 =C9=CD=CD=CD =C9=CD=CD=CD = =C9=CD=CD=BB =C9=CD=CD=BB =B3 =B3 |\__-- /\ _- =B3 =CC=CD=CD =CC=CD=CD =CD=CD = =BA =BA =B3 =B3 | / __ _ =B3 =CA =CA =C8=CD=CD=BC = =C8=CD=CD=BC =B3 =B3 //\ / \ /__ =B3 Knothole. = =B3 =B3 | o| 0|__ --_ =B3 = =B3 =B3 \\____-- __ \ ___ - =B3 Commander Sonic Data. = =B3 =B3 (@@ __/ / /_ =B3 E-mail soniccsd@inet.uni-c.dk = =B3 =B3 -_____--- --_ =B3 ASCII Sonic by Han J. Lee = =B3 =C0=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C1=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=D9 From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 15:48:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA15114 for sonic-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:09:46 -0500 Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA15082 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:09:16 -0500 Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA05291; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:09:05 -0500 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id PAA13135; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:08:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199604012008.PAA13135@edmund> Subject: Sonic #35 [for FAQ File] To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:08:57 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Blah blah spoilers blah blah blah #35 [June 1996] "Ring of Truth," (in 3 parts) Story: Mike Gallagher; Art: Dave Manak The story starts out in total game mode, with Sonic being chased by Robotnik and losing his accumulated power rings along the way (a situation to which I can, unfortunately, relate). While dodging Robotnik's maceball he grabs at a ring that causes him to disappear. Robotnik's onboard computer has been keeping count of the number of rings Sonic has grabbed in the course of a lifetime [how convenient! Maybe Robotnik can find honest work as a baseball statistician!] and it turns out that was the 1,000,000,000th power ring. Never mind that, in the animated series, Sonic can only access one ring a day. We're dealing with some different realities here. Sonic finds himself transported into another dimension, where dwell the Ancient Walkers. He is told that it is his billionth ring and that his reward will be...knowledge. Or a copy of the home game, it depends. Our hero finds himself falling toward a green sea. Turns out it's green because it's made up, not of water, but of chaos emeralds. The billionth ring, following him around like a spaniel, breaks his fall. A second Walker, wearing a Mercedes-Benz hood ornament for no particular reason, challenges Sonic to solve the Riddle of the Rings. Sonic guesses the answer and is buried by coiled chains of power rings for his trouble. Their accumulated weight drag him down under the sea of emeralds where, rat-like, he is forced to run on the inside of the aforementioned power ring. He confronts the third Walker who subjects him to one of the oldest gags in the business. There follows an entirely useless page of Sonic trying unsuccessfully to make sense out of the preceding eleven pages until, finally, he emerges back in his own dimension, ring in hand, disabling Robotnik's hover unit in the process. Gallagher gets major points for stretching, for writing a story beyond the Sonic Vs. Robotnik And If You Have To Wonder Who Will Win Then You Must Be New In Town genre. Aside from the small problems with this story (the billion ring business, the "Playboy" pun that misfires), there's a more fundamental flaw. And since "Prof. Fulop" invited "scholarly" evaluations (in a box on page 14) I humbly submit: A COMPARISON OF THE STRUCTURE OF "RING OF TRUTH" WITH THE MESOPOTAMIAN "EPIC OF GILGAMESH" The Epic of Gilgamesh, which dates back to the first millennium BCE, is a prototypical tale of a hero's quest. "Ring of Truth," on the other hand, deviates from the Gilgamesh model in several important ways: In Gilgamesh, the hero at one point undertakes a quest. This quest has a purpose: to obtain a magic flower that will undo the death of Gilgamesh's best friend, Enkidu, who died as a result of their fighting against the Bull of Heaven. Sonic, however, stumbles upon the zone of the Ancient Walkers strictly by accident. He just happened to grab the requisite number of rings. It really doesn't count as a "quest" if it's accidental. The same weakness showed up in "Southern Crossover, Part 3," where Tails just has the events of Mobian prehistory channelled through him to no obvious purpose or benefit. The second flaw in the story "Ring of Truth" involves Sonic's inability to learn from what has happened (and to impart said knowledge to the reader). For Gilgamesh, his quest ends when, having obtained the flower, it is taken from him by a serpent and the god Utnapishtim delivers the punch line: that in life there are no second chances. By page 14 of "Ring of Truth," on the other hand, all we are left with is a metaphysical mishmosh that gives Sonic a headache and which offers the reader a number of meanings to choose from: A. Yes! B. This Isn't Fair! C. Forty-Two! D. Some Of The Above! It doesn't help matters that his "guides" on the path of enlightenment are less than convincing. Since their debut in "Tttriple Tttrouble" [Game Gear Adaptation #1], the Ancient Walkers have been saddled with the burden of Dave Manak's artwork. Our hedgehog hero is up against some heavy cosmic stuff; Manak, however, manages to transform "cosmic" into "comic." His Walkers look like people wearing rather unconvincing rubber dinosaur suits and masks that look like they belong on the walls of Trader Vic's or some other tiki and tropical drink bar. Even Spaziante's sparse cover rendering of the same masks cannot save them from looking, quite frankly, ridiculous. A little more thought in this story could have prevented it from ending up as a lot of mystical sound and fury, signifying nothing. "A Sense of History, Part 2" Story and Art: Ken Penders As Knuckles continues to flash back, it is now about four generations after Echidnapolis went airborne thanks to the installation of a dozen chaos emeralds. Two echidna brothers, Edmund and Dmitri, survey the chaos chamber where the emeralds continue to radiate. Their proposal to return the floating island to the ground by means of a "chaos syphon" that would gradually leach power from the stones, is sharply denied by the scientific establishment who aren't in a mood to tamper with the forces of nature. Enraged by such narrowmindedness, Dmitri uses the prototype of the syphon on the emeralds. It succeeds in reducing eleven of the twelve stones to charred shards and transforms Dmitri into a being with "the energies of eleven shattered chaos emeralds howling within him." [Note to Ken Penders: Great line!] Dmitri then either calls forth, or else morphs into, Mount Fate. To be continued. Now THIS is more like it! If you're going to be mystical, you can be linear about it as well. So how exactly does echidna civilization come to an end? THAT'S what I call a tease. This just about makes me forget about all those 2-month vamps. Sonic-Grams, etc.: The cover of #36 is interesting, not just because Spaz has given us yet another tail shot of Sally, but because she and Sonic apparently come face to helmet with one of Sauron's Black Riders. That's a High Concept plot for you: Mobius meets Middle Earth! I can only hope that this "quest" isn't an ongoing excuse to put Sonic et al. in different settings outside Mobius. By me, it would be a tacit admission that the writers had run dry and they couldn't come up with any more story ideas involving the basic concept. We'll know better next month. Great, Scott! You're outta here! Then again, Ken Penders has spoken of you in the past tense for some time now, so the move must've been a done deal by the time this went to press. Ken also said Scott quit to pursue some writing. Let's see: he contributed six editorial boxes to "Ring of Truth" and ten to "Crash of the Titans." So why am I not surprised that he wanted to write? Let's hope Fred Mendez does a better job of keeping his ego in check. Letters: a Canadian reader contributes a Sonic rap and manages to finish each line without including the word "Eh?". The other letter (there are only two) asks if Knuckles has hands inside his gloves [no, they're hooks, you little...let us pause a moment to weep for this younger generation], and asks whatever happened to the ABC series. Scott shines him off by blaming Robotnik's stranglehold on the mainstream media and by saying that Sonic was too fast for the time slot. OK, I'm also disappointed that he didn't advise the kid to read my FAQ File. Maybe Fred knows enough to credit the computer-literate among the readership. Heck, you ever count how many commercials are now featuring the addresses of Web pages? Our day will come, Cyber- Mobians! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 16:25:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA19792 for sonic-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:08:29 -0500 Received: from lin01.global.co.za (home.global.co.za [196.3.164.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA19278 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:53:56 -0500 Received: from anx_85.global.co.za (anx_85.global.co.za [196.3.164.135]) by lin01.global.co.za (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA28961 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 22:51:44 -0200 (GMT) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 22:51:44 -0200 (GMT) Message-Id: <199604020051.WAA28961@lin01.global.co.za> X-Sender: ablater@mail.global.co.za X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: ablater@lin01.global.co.za (ablater) Subject: Req: Avi file. Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net HiyaDTRDroppers, Little req here, could someone please make an .AVI of somefur being robotocized, and either UL it to rat, or Mail it to me? Thanks, and be excellent. Ablater *------------------------------------------------------* | *--------------------------------------------------* | | | __ ___ . __ ---_--- ---- ---\ | | 1101010110010101101111 | | / \ | \ | / \ | / | | | | 0101110101011111011101 | | |----| |___| | |____| | ---- -----\ | | 1101110001011010010110 | | | | | | | | | | \ | | | | 0110010101101001000100 | | | | |___/ \____ | | | \___ | | | | 1010011101100101110010 | *--------------------------------------------------* | 0100010101001001001010 | Ablater of Crypto-Phobia, South Africa | | 0101001001010001001010 | "The end is the beginning" | | 0100010000111110010101 *----------------------------------------------------*-* 2 From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 17:25:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA24689 for sonic-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:08:24 -0500 Received: from rgfn.epcc.Edu (rgfn.epcc.edu [206.42.175.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA24682 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:08:21 -0500 Received: by rgfn.epcc.Edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11403; Mon, 1 Apr 96 15:08:05 MST Date: Mon, 1 Apr 96 15:08:05 MST Message-Id: <9604012208.AA11403@rgfn.epcc.Edu> From: ab360@rgfn.epcc.edu (John W. Johnston) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Req: Avi file. Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > >HiyaDTRDroppers, > >Little req here, > >could someone please make an .AVI of somefur being robotocized, and either >UL it to rat, or Mail it to me? The only example I have seen, to date, was when Uncle Chuck himself got roboticized, from Blast to the Past. Since I don't have any equipment for making AVIs, I just though I might help point you in the right direction. -- ab360@rgfn.epcc.edu or http://rgfn.epcc.edu/users/ab360/tails.html John W. Johnston | StH JJ1 tFF++ Tal+++it Amy+++ | From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 17:43:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA24740 for sonic-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:09:46 -0500 Received: from rgfn.epcc.Edu (rgfn.epcc.edu [206.42.175.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA24733 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:09:40 -0500 Received: by rgfn.epcc.Edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11950; Mon, 1 Apr 96 15:09:36 MST Date: Mon, 1 Apr 96 15:09:36 MST Message-Id: <9604012209.AA11950@rgfn.epcc.Edu> From: ab360@rgfn.epcc.edu (John W. Johnston) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: RE: Sonic PC Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >I thought Doug said you already have a site to put it on. What country is >*.*.*.dk? The natives call it "Deushland;" everyone else calls it "Germany." -- ab360@rgfn.epcc.edu or http://rgfn.epcc.edu/users/ab360/tails.html John W. Johnston | StH JJ1 tFF++ Tal+++it Amy+++ | From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 18:29:45 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA00267 for sonic-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 18:16:07 -0500 Received: from ds1.gl.umbc.edu (root@ds1.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.3.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA00259 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 18:16:03 -0500 Received: from rpa10.gl.umbc.edu (cmugg1@rpa10.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.61.100]) by ds1.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA04908 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 18:15:50 -0500 Received: (cmugg1@localhost) by rpa10.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA01859; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 18:15:56 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 18:15:56 -0500 (EST) From: mugg charles To: sonic@bort.mv.net cc: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Info about the Sonic Japan cartoon In-Reply-To: <199604011955.OAA00367@iwaynet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Kulock wrote: > >On Sun, 31 Mar 1996, The Necromancer wrote: > > > >> >Kiken here, low and behold I believe that it is! I wish the pic was a > >> >little clearer though. :( > >> > >> Metal Sonic is finally getting into the cartoons! I wonder what his voice > >> (if he has one) sounds like? > >> > > > >Kiken here, well, there are only 5 voice actor credits on the page, > >Sonic's, Tails', Dr. Eggman's, Knuckles', and Sarah's. Its possible that > >he does speak, but either its one of two thing: > > > >#1, its probably only a line or two and would only be mentioned in the > >credits at the end of the episode > > > >or > > > >#2, one of the before mentioned character voice actors does him as well, > >kinda like how in the US Sat am show, Sally and Nicole are the same voice > >actress. > > > >Kiken signing off. > > Is there a chance for this anime to be Dubbed or subtitled? I'd love to see > it, nbut I don't kno Japanese.. > Thanks.. > > -Knuck's/Knuck's the Echidna/Echidna....wait..that's not right.. > Kiken here, from the looks of things, unfortunately no. You may get lucky and locate a fan subbed version several months from now, but even that is pushing things. First, right now, as has been mentioned before, the anime is rental-only. So no companies are permitted to really purchase mass quantities of it. This is changing May 31 though. Second, in the US there is already an established animated series (two actually), that portray Sonic in a light acceptable by US standards, the Japanese portrayal and standars are much different: such things as bad language (numerous 4 letter words), obscene or offensive gestures and extreme violence are accepted in Japanese animation. Out of the above three criterion, the obscene gestures and bad language are present in the Sonic anime, I don't know about any extreme violence as of yet. Third, even if a subtitling company, such as Anime Eigo, Manga Corps US, Pioneer, Newtype or any of the others out there, grabbed up the anime, getting the rights to release it in the states would be very difficult, since Sega of America partially own anything with Sonic the Hedgehog in it. They would legally have to ask SOA permission in order to release the anime here. Fourth, becuase of the second reason, even if the anime is released here, its probably gonna be editted and censorred (BOOO!) to fit the US standard. As I said above, if you don't understand Japanese, your one hope right now is that some little company will find it and fan-sub it. As for dubbing the anime, YUCK!!! Dubbed anime blows! Any fan will tell you that. Even if the US got the cast from the US show to do it, it just wouldn't be the same. But as of right now, even trying to get ahold of an original Japanese copy is VERY hard! Luckily not impossible, NewType Magazine (a Japanese manga/anime publication) listed volume 1 of the Sonic Anime as a purchasable OVA, for 5974 Yen (approximately $60). Seems like I'm gonna be writing them some mail as well. More on this later. Kiken signing off. ASOBIWA...OWARIDA! Sayonara. This message from the Baltimore Ronin, homepage at: http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~cmugg1 Ikuze! /---/ |\ /\ "To live a life of power, / / | \ / \ you must have faith in what you / / | / / \ believe, even if others tell you ------- |/ /------\ you are wrong; / __ |\ __|__ The first step to living a life of / | | | \ | | | power is to find courage, you must / | _| | / |__|__| be prepared to reach beyond the / |_____| |/ | boundaries of time itself; | / \ And to do that, all you need is the will to take that very first step." Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 19:59:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA07749 for sonic-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:48:59 -0500 Received: from kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (0@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com [198.178.203.9]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA07693 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:48:53 -0500 Received: from kaiwan169.kaiwan.com (kaiwan169.kaiwan.com [198.178.203.169]) by kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA09946 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:48:40 -0800 (PST) *** KAIWAN Internet *** Received: by kaiwan169.kaiwan.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BB1FEB.811A9840@kaiwan169.kaiwan.com>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:51:42 -0800 Message-ID: <01BB1FEB.811A9840@kaiwan169.kaiwan.com> From: Rob Berry To: "'sonic@bort.mv.net'" Subject: OFFLIST! Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:47:54 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net My opalogies for not making this clear: If you would like info on the Sonic movie, e-mail me offlist. Thank you! : ) -Lydia hti@kaiwna.com From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 20:03:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA07768 for sonic-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:49:07 -0500 Received: from kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (0@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com [198.178.203.9]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA07758 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:49:02 -0500 Received: from kaiwan169.kaiwan.com (kaiwan169.kaiwan.com [198.178.203.169]) by kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA09986 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:48:50 -0800 (PST) *** KAIWAN Internet *** Received: by kaiwan169.kaiwan.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BB1FEB.87320B00@kaiwan169.kaiwan.com>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:51:52 -0800 Message-ID: <01BB1FEB.87320B00@kaiwan169.kaiwan.com> From: Rob Berry To: "'sonic@bort.mv.net'" Subject: A little off topic, but... Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:51:35 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net This is way off topic but, well, my friend put her own webpage on = the internet and she wants to start a mailing list. If you have any = information on exactly HOW to start a mailing list, please e-mail me OFF = LIST and tell me what you know. -Lydia hti@kaiwan.com From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 21:46:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA14013 for sonic-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 21:37:13 -0500 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA14002 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 21:37:06 -0500 Received: from ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.41]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA07114 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 18:41:07 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 18:41:07 -0800 Message-Id: <199604020241.SAA07114@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Faster? Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 05:47 PM 4/1/96 GMT, you wrote: > Sorry Guys, but loyalty aside, there's little to no doubt that the >Flash is faster than Sonic (especially in the more rfecent comics). I >mean, he can outrun LIGHT. Even with a DOZEN power rings the Blue >Streak can't match that. > OTOH, the hedgehog is far COOLER, which is what's REALLY important. > > rob But what if Sonic were Super Sonic of if he used the deep power stones? -Chris > From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 23:05:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA17887 for sonic-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 22:09:12 -0500 Received: from eeyore.INS.CWRU.Edu (hk512@eeyore.INS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.8.17]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id WAA17462 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 22:00:43 -0500 Received: (hk512@localhost) by eeyore.INS.CWRU.Edu (8.6.12+cwru/CWRU-2.1-bsdi) id WAA13432; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 22:00:29 -0500 (from hk512) Message-Id: <199604020300.WAA13432@eeyore.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 22:00:29 -0500 From: hk512@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Delacroix) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic #35 [for FAQ File] Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net drazen@andrews.edu sez: >#35 [June 1996] > "Ring of Truth," (in 3 parts) [piped output to /dev/null] I liked my "Ring of Truth" better, myself. It's a tad more believable. (Ain't that right, my faithful fans? ;) Joe. -- FurryMUCK: furry.org 8888 (Joe_Fox) | Joseph deLaCroix hk512@po.cwru.edu SPR: svansmoj.ctrl-c.liu.se (Joe) | The CDA is bad. http://www.eff.com/ FT: 198.211.131.13 9999 (Joe) | StH Fanfic -- http://rat.org/bookshire FurryFuzz: phoenix.atticus.com 8888 | ObMedia: http://www.suck.com/ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 23:07:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA17162 for sonic-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 21:57:19 -0500 Received: from eeyore.INS.CWRU.Edu (hk512@eeyore.INS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.8.17]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA17145 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 21:57:15 -0500 Received: (hk512@localhost) by eeyore.INS.CWRU.Edu (8.6.12+cwru/CWRU-2.1-bsdi) id VAA12633; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 21:57:06 -0500 (from hk512) Message-Id: <199604020257.VAA12633@eeyore.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 21:57:06 -0500 From: hk512@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Delacroix) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: RE: Sonic PC Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net ab360@rgfn.epcc.edu sez: >>I thought Doug said you already have a site to put it on. What country is >>*.*.*.dk? > >The natives call it "Deushland;" everyone else calls it "Germany." I won't make the obvious pun. (Sandra'd get angry at me.) Instead, I'll just politely tell you that I'm pretty sure that's not how the German word for the homeland is. I believe it's "Deucheland" or something similar to it. =) >-- > ab360@rgfn.epcc.edu or http://rgfn.epcc.edu/users/ab360/tails.html > John W. Johnston | StH JJ1 tFF++ Tal+++it Amy+++ | Jedi Emissary, | Pos+++ Fio--^/+++ P++ Dwm |mean? See the Sonic code > Shuttle Nexus | $+++ E12 Ee11 E-23 Ay73 GM | text file in my page.> Joe. -- FurryMUCK: furry.org 8888 (Joe_Fox) | Joseph deLaCroix hk512@po.cwru.edu SPR: svansmoj.ctrl-c.liu.se (Joe) | The CDA is bad. http://www.eff.com/ FT: 198.211.131.13 9999 (Joe) | StH Fanfic -- http://rat.org/bookshire FurryFuzz: phoenix.atticus.com 8888 | ObMedia: http://www.suck.com/ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 04:29:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id EAA21499 for sonic-ll; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 04:22:50 -0500 Received: from inet.uni-c.dk (inet.uni-c.dk [130.228.6.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id EAA21490 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 04:22:46 -0500 Received: from arh154.ppp.uni-c.dk (arh154.ppp.uni-c.dk [130.228.13.154]) by inet.uni-c.dk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA22664 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:19:26 +0200 Received: by arh154.ppp.uni-c.dk with Microsoft Mail id <01BB2086.898F5880@arh154.ppp.uni-c.dk>; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:21:28 +-200 Message-ID: <01BB2086.898F5880@arh154.ppp.uni-c.dk> From: Michael Emil Hansen To: "sonic@bort.mv.net" Subject: RE: Faster? Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:16:20 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net ---------- From: Dan[SMTP:dflinn@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us] Sent: 2, april 1996 04.41 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Faster? At 05:47 PM 4/1/96 GMT, you wrote: > Sorry Guys, but loyalty aside, there's little to no doubt that the >Flash is faster than Sonic (especially in the more rfecent comics). I >mean, he can outrun LIGHT. Even with a DOZEN power rings the Blue >Streak can't match that. > OTOH, the hedgehog is far COOLER, which is what's REALLY important. > > rob But what if Sonic were Super Sonic of if he used the deep power = stones? -Chris > Yea You cud have a pount there. I will calculat on it. =DA=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C2=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=BF =B3 ___------__ =B3 =C9=CD=CD=CD =C9=CD=CD=CD = =C9=CD=CD=BB =C9=CD=CD=BB =B3 =B3 |\__-- /\ _- =B3 =CC=CD=CD =CC=CD=CD =CD=CD = =BA =BA =B3 =B3 | / __ _ =B3 =CA =CA =C8=CD=CD=BC = =C8=CD=CD=BC =B3 =B3 //\ / \ /__ =B3 Knothole. = =B3 =B3 | o| 0|__ --_ =B3 = =B3 =B3 \\____-- __ \ ___ - =B3 Commander Sonic Data. = =B3 =B3 (@@ __/ / /_ =B3 E-mail soniccsd@inet.uni-c.dk = =B3 =B3 -_____--- --_ =B3 ASCII Sonic by Han J. Lee = =B3 =C0=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C1=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=D9 From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 04:44:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id EAA21514 for sonic-ll; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 04:23:02 -0500 Received: from inet.uni-c.dk (inet.uni-c.dk [130.228.6.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id EAA21504 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 04:22:59 -0500 Received: from arh154.ppp.uni-c.dk (arh154.ppp.uni-c.dk [130.228.13.154]) by inet.uni-c.dk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA22715 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:19:43 +0200 Received: by arh154.ppp.uni-c.dk with Microsoft Mail id <01BB2086.95CD8040@arh154.ppp.uni-c.dk>; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:21:49 +-200 Message-ID: <01BB2086.95CD8040@arh154.ppp.uni-c.dk> From: Michael Emil Hansen To: "'sonic@bort.mv.net'" Subject: RE: Sonic PC Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:19:35 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net ---------- From: John W. Johnston[SMTP:ab360@rgfn.epcc.edu] Sent: 2, april 1996 00.09 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: RE: Sonic PC >I thought Doug said you already have a site to put it on. What country = is >*.*.*.dk?=20 The natives call it "Deushland;" everyone else calls it "Germany." -- ab360@rgfn.epcc.edu or http://rgfn.epcc.edu/users/ab360/tails.html = John W. Johnston | StH JJ1 tFF++ Tal+++it Amy+++ | What!!!!!!! Are you nots!!!! DK means Denmark!!!! Look in a Atlas ore on = a globe!. Germany or Deutshland (My germen is lousy) is DE ore GE. =DA=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C2=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=BF =B3 ___------__ =B3 =C9=CD=CD=CD =C9=CD=CD=CD = =C9=CD=CD=BB =C9=CD=CD=BB =B3 =B3 |\__-- /\ _- =B3 =CC=CD=CD =CC=CD=CD =CD=CD = =BA =BA =B3 =B3 | / __ _ =B3 =CA =CA =C8=CD=CD=BC = =C8=CD=CD=BC =B3 =B3 //\ / \ /__ =B3 Knothole. = =B3 =B3 | o| 0|__ --_ =B3 = =B3 =B3 \\____-- __ \ ___ - =B3 Commander Sonic Data. = =B3 =B3 (@@ __/ / /_ =B3 E-mail soniccsd@inet.uni-c.dk = =B3 =B3 -_____--- --_ =B3 ASCII Sonic by Han J. Lee = =B3 =C0=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C1=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=D9 From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 11:22:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA17184 for sonic-ll; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 10:55:53 -0500 Received: from siue.edu (clavin.isg.siue.edu [146.163.5.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA17176 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 10:55:50 -0500 Received: from 146.163.47.53 ([146.163.47.53]) by siue.edu (8.6.10/8.6.11+) with SMTP id JAA02139 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 09:54:20 -0600 Message-Id: <199604021554.JAA02139@siue.edu> Date: Wed, 03 Apr 96 15:57:12 0600 From: David Gonterman Organization: Foxfire Studios X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Sonic Anime X-URL: http://www.siue.edu/~dgonter/letter.htm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net I just got a magazene that had a small article of the Sonic anime flick. I'm gonna scan it for rat.org, then call DIC to get this movie imported NOW!! It's only a half hour, I think they can cram it all without much doctoring up... David Gonterman From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 12:54:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA25465 for sonic-ll; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 12:42:32 -0500 Received: from ds1.gl.umbc.edu (root@ds1.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.3.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA25460 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 12:42:27 -0500 Received: from rpa12.gl.umbc.edu (cmugg1@rpa12.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.61.102]) by ds1.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA16712 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 12:42:10 -0500 Received: (cmugg1@localhost) by rpa12.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA12649; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 12:42:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 12:42:18 -0500 (EST) From: mugg charles To: sonic@bort.mv.net cc: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic Anime In-Reply-To: <199604021554.JAA02139@siue.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Wed, 3 Apr 1996, David Gonterman wrote: > I just got a magazene that had a small article of the Sonic anime flick. > I'm gonna scan it for rat.org, then call DIC to get this movie imported > NOW!! > > It's only a half hour, I think they can cram it all without much > doctoring up... > > David Gonterman > Kiken here, the last people I want to see messing with the Sonic Anime are DIC. If anyone picks it up, it better be Manga Corps US or AnimEigo. I trust those two companies for accuracy of translation, and there are two episodes total. But I guess you didn't quite read all of my previous post. "Doctored" would not be the word. As I said, let the anime fans translate this, and like I said, its rental-only, Sega Enterprises are not mass producing it yet. Kiken signing off. ASOBIWA...OWARIDA! Sayonara. This message from the Baltimore Ronin, homepage at: http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~cmugg1 Ikuze! /---/ |\ /\ "To live a life of power, / / | \ / \ you must have faith in what you / / | / / \ believe, even if others tell you ------- |/ /------\ you are wrong; / __ |\ __|__ The first step to living a life of / | | | \ | | | power is to find courage, you must / | _| | / |__|__| be prepared to reach beyond the / |_____| |/ | boundaries of time itself; | / \ And to do that, all you need is the will to take that very first step." Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 14:13:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA29508 for sonic-ll; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 13:31:57 -0500 Received: (rat@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA29499; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 13:31:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 13:31:55 -0500 (EST) From: Ratman To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic PC In-Reply-To: <199603290308.WAA02455@ns1.ptd.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, Jason Shank wrote: > I thought someone said that they were going to put Sonic PC to > download on the Sonic resourse page. If its there, where is it? I agreed to it before I learned it was warez (pirate software). And I'm not about to put warez on rat.org. Sega already isn't overly fond of me, I don't want to give them legal ammunition. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 14:22:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA29310 for sonic-ll; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 13:26:07 -0500 Received: from ns2.ac.edu ([134.224.1.29]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA29305 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 13:26:04 -0500 Received: from jaguar.ac.edu by ns2.ac.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09720; Tue, 2 Apr 96 13:31:18 EST Received: by jaguar.ac.edu (wcGATE v4) id 35115W Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:25:06 GMT From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) Subject: Re: Faster? Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:15:37 GMT Message-Id: <96040214250636719@jaguar.ac.edu> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net -> From: Dan -> To: bort.mv.net!sonic -> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 18:41:07 -0800 -> Subject: Re: Faster? -> -> At 05:47 PM 4/1/96 GMT, you wrote: -> > Sorry Guys, but loyalty aside, there's little to no doubt that t -> >Flash is faster than Sonic (especially in the more rfecent comics). -> >mean, he can outrun LIGHT. Even with a DOZEN power rings the Blue -> >Streak can't match that. -> > OTOH, the hedgehog is far COOLER, which is what's REALLY importa -> > -> > rob -> -> But what if Sonic were Super Sonic of if he used the deep power -> stones? -> -Chris -> > -> Even then, I'm afraid (Although with the Deep Power Stones, it's close). However, the hedgehog in SS mode is somewhat tougher than the Flash, physically. But the rings eventually burn out, while ol' Flasheroo simply keeps on going and going and going-- Hmm... Perhaps the Mobius equivalent of the Flash aint a hedgehog after all, but a drum-beating pink bunny? OUCH. rob From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 15:53:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA09032 for sonic-ll; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 15:24:26 -0500 Received: from inet.uni-c.dk (inet.uni-c.dk [130.228.6.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA09025 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 15:24:22 -0500 Received: from arh171.ppp.uni-c.dk (arh171.ppp.uni-c.dk [130.228.13.171]) by inet.uni-c.dk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA07905 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 22:21:06 +0200 Received: by arh171.ppp.uni-c.dk with Microsoft Mail id <01BB20E2.EE4F6920@arh171.ppp.uni-c.dk>; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 22:22:51 +-200 Message-ID: <01BB20E2.EE4F6920@arh171.ppp.uni-c.dk> From: Michael Emil Hansen To: "sonic@bort.mv.net" Subject: RE: Sonic PC Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 22:17:51 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net ---------- From: Ratman[SMTP:rat@bort.mv.net] Sent: 2, april 1996 15.31 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic PC On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, Jason Shank wrote: > I thought someone said that they were going to put Sonic PC to > download on the Sonic resourse page. If its there, where is it? I agreed to it before I learned it was warez (pirate software). And I'm not about to put warez on rat.org. Sega already isn't overly = fond of me, I don't want to give them legal ammunition. I agreed. If it=B4s warez, it shutn=B4t be on anny page. When I get the = copy of the game, I will contact SEGA, and finding out of it=B4s beeing = releast. =DA=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C2=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=BF =B3 ___------__ =B3 =C9=CD=CD=CD =C9=CD=CD=CD = =C9=CD=CD=BB =C9=CD=CD=BB =B3 =B3 |\__-- /\ _- =B3 =CC=CD=CD =CC=CD=CD =CD=CD = =BA =BA =B3 =B3 | / __ _ =B3 =CA =CA =C8=CD=CD=BC = =C8=CD=CD=BC =B3 =B3 //\ / \ /__ =B3 Knothole. = =B3 =B3 | o| 0|__ --_ =B3 = =B3 =B3 \\____-- __ \ ___ - =B3 Commander Sonic Data. = =B3 =B3 (@@ __/ / /_ =B3 E-mail soniccsd@inet.uni-c.dk = =B3 =B3 -_____--- --_ =B3 ASCII Sonic by Han J. Lee = =B3 =C0=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C1=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=D9 From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 18:06:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA21778 for sonic-ll; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 17:52:16 -0500 Received: from busd-netra1 (busd-netra1.berryessa.k12.ca.us [199.233.182.20]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA21771; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 17:52:12 -0500 Received: from pc-mor-library (206-213-148-066.berryessa.k12.ca.us) by busd-netra1 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA23853; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 14:49:35 -0800 Message-Id: <9604022249.AA23853@busd-netra1> X-Sender: mmedctr@busd-netra1.berryessa.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 15:07:17 -0800 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Morrill Middle School - Library Subject: The Brawl Cc: Sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net A Sonic the Hedgehog story called "The Brawl" will be out in Bookshire's story page, soon. The only detail I'm giving out is that there is a new FF with the same name of a character in the story "Jaded Views" by Thad "X" Boyd. Guess... it's KABUKI! A character I created a year back (or was it less than that). But the character "Kabuki" in the story is an alternate character and she's MORE competitive. Both with the same "Kabuki" name, different first and last name. That's all I'm saying for now. Kabuki "Ya tai!" From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 18:10:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA20282 for sonic-ll; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 17:44:35 -0500 Received: from busd-netra1 (busd-netra1.berryessa.k12.ca.us [199.233.182.20]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA20275 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 17:44:32 -0500 Received: from pc-mor-library (206-213-148-066.berryessa.k12.ca.us) by busd-netra1 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA23848; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 14:41:49 -0800 Message-Id: <9604022241.AA23848@busd-netra1> X-Sender: mmedctr@busd-netra1.berryessa.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 14:59:32 -0800 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Morrill Middle School - Library Subject: Re: Sonic Anime Cc: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 12:42 PM 4/2/96 -0500, you wrote: >On Wed, 3 Apr 1996, David Gonterman wrote: > >> I just got a magazene that had a small article of the Sonic anime flick. >> I'm gonna scan it for rat.org, then call DIC to get this movie imported >> NOW!! >> >> It's only a half hour, I think they can cram it all without much >> doctoring up... >> >> David Gonterman >> >Kiken here, the last people I want to see messing with the Sonic Anime >are DIC. If anyone picks it up, it better be Manga Corps US or AnimEigo. >I trust those two companies for accuracy of translation, and there are >two episodes total. But I guess you didn't quite read all of my previous >post. "Doctored" would not be the word. As I said, let the anime fans >translate this, and like I said, its rental-only, Sega Enterprises are >not mass producing it yet. > > >Kiken signing off. >ASOBIWA...OWARIDA! >Sayonara. > >This message from the Baltimore Ronin, >homepage at: >http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~cmugg1 >Ikuze! > > /---/ |\ /\ "To live a life of power, > / / | \ / \ you must have faith in what you > / / | / / \ believe, even if others tell you > ------- |/ /------\ you are wrong; > / __ |\ __|__ The first step to living a life of > / | | | \ | | | power is to find courage, you must > / | _| | / |__|__| be prepared to reach beyond the >/ |_____| |/ | boundaries of time itself; > | / \ And to do that, all you need is the > will to take that very first step." > > Sonic > > I've heard about this a long time ago, but I never said it to anyone. (except for X and Amaroq) I heard it from a friend. What he told me that it was VERY violent. I DO remember every single detail what he told to me, the setting and character action. I'm not telling though. Kabuki From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 18:57:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA26624 for sonic-ll; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:52:23 -0500 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA26613 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:52:19 -0500 Received: from terra.nlnet.nf.ca (terra.nlnet.nf.ca [192.75.13.101]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA09525 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 20:22:12 -0330 (NST) Received: from n105h085.nlnet.nf.ca by terra.nlnet.nf.ca; (5.65/1.1.8.2/26Jan95-0807PM) id AA29657; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 20:22:09 -0330 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 20:22:09 -0330 Message-Id: <9604022352.AA29657@terra.nlnet.nf.ca> X-Sender: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (The Necromancer) Subject: Sonic to change color and slow down?!?!? Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Details at http://www.segoa.com ------------------------ The Necromancer lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca Modified cut from the Drake's Awakening: Scorchblade: "We either do or we don't, there is no try." Brooklyn: "I think Yoda's hiding under all that armor..." From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 20:14:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA02491 for sonic-ll; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 20:04:40 -0500 Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA02482 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 20:04:34 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 20:04:34 -0500 Received: from [206.25.250.52] by vivanet.vivanet.com id aa10868; 2 Apr 96 20:08 EST X-Sender: mpenna@pop3.vivanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: Re: Sonic to change color and slow down?!?!? Message-ID: <9604022008.aa10868@vivanet.vivanet.com> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Details at http://www.segoa.com > Yaaah! Don't scare me that way! I nearly had a heart attack while I was waiting for the page to load. :) -Matt From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 20:30:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA01208 for sonic-ll; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 19:56:22 -0500 Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA01199 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 19:56:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 19:56:18 -0500 Received: from [206.25.250.52] by vivanet.vivanet.com id aa08759; 2 Apr 96 20:00 EST X-Sender: mpenna@pop3.vivanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: Re: Sonic Anime Message-ID: <9604022000.aa08759@vivanet.vivanet.com> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >I just got a magazene that had a small article of the Sonic anime flick. >I'm gonna scan it for rat.org, then call DIC to get this movie imported >NOW!! > >It's only a half hour, I think they can cram it all without much >doctoring up... DIC doing anime? I shudder when I think of the possible results! C'mon, if you haven't ever watched dubbed anime, let me tell you, DON'T. DON'T waste your time. There are way too many problems with it. (This is true in general.) Whenever anime gets dubbed, the characters' personalities are almost always changed, never for the better. Go with the subtitles and read a little. Dubbed anime is not "doctored." Butchered is more like it. -Matt From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 21:27:47 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA05939 for sonic-ll; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 20:54:29 -0500 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA05934 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 20:54:26 -0500 Received: from terra.nlnet.nf.ca (terra.nlnet.nf.ca [192.75.13.101]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA11792 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 22:24:25 -0330 (NST) Received: from n105h084.nlnet.nf.ca by terra.nlnet.nf.ca; (5.65/1.1.8.2/26Jan95-0807PM) id AA03130; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 22:24:21 -0330 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 22:24:21 -0330 Message-Id: <9604030154.AA03130@terra.nlnet.nf.ca> X-Sender: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (The Necromancer) Subject: Re: Sonic to change color and slow down?!?!? Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >>Details at http://www.segoa.com >> > >Yaaah! Don't scare me that way! I nearly had a heart attack while I was >waiting for the page to load. :) > >-Matt HA HA HA! APRIL FOOLS! ------------------------ The Necromancer lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca Modified cut from the Drake's Awakening: Scorchblade: "We either do or we don't, there is no try." Brooklyn: "I think Yoda's hiding under all that armor..." From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 22:41:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA11842 for sonic-ll; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 22:36:58 -0500 Received: from tsb.weschke.com (foxfire@tsb.weschke.com [204.91.224.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA11837 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 22:36:55 -0500 Received: (from foxfire@localhost) by tsb.weschke.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id WAA29088; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 22:37:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 22:36:59 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Forsyth To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Web page text formatting... In-Reply-To: <9604030154.AA03130@terra.nlnet.nf.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Just a request, folks, but when you put a story on the web-page, would you please format it to 80 characters? It's kind of annoying to have to scroll *waaaaaay* right because the entire paragraph is displayed as a single line, and Netscape apparently has no word-wrap feature for plain text files... Thanks.. Chris Forsyth From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 23:16:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA13981 for sonic-ll; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 23:01:10 -0500 Received: from ds1.gl.umbc.edu (root@ds1.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.3.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA13971 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 23:01:06 -0500 Received: from rpa12.gl.umbc.edu (cmugg1@rpa12.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.61.102]) by ds1.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA13774 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 23:00:48 -0500 Received: (cmugg1@localhost) by rpa12.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA17499; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 23:00:27 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 23:00:27 -0500 (EST) From: mugg charles To: sonic@bort.mv.net cc: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic to change color and slow down?!?!? In-Reply-To: <9604030154.AA03130@terra.nlnet.nf.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Tue, 2 Apr 1996, The Necromancer wrote: > >>Details at http://www.segoa.com > >> > > > >Yaaah! Don't scare me that way! I nearly had a heart attack while I was > >waiting for the page to load. :) > > > >-Matt > > HA HA HA! APRIL FOOLS! > > ------------------------ > The Necromancer > lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca > Kiken here, that was WEAK! Sega should cut that out, not to mention the needless mud-slinging at Sony. If you wanna joke about your own character, that's fine, but don't use it as an excuse to point fingers at someone else for something. Not to mention their pathetic coverage of "Nights" by Sonic Team. Kiken signing off. ASOBIWA...OWARIDA! Sayonara. This message from the Baltimore Ronin, homepage at: http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~cmugg1 Ikuze! /---/ |\ /\ "To live a life of power, / / | \ / \ you must have faith in what you / / | / / \ believe, even if others tell you ------- |/ /------\ you are wrong; / __ |\ __|__ The first step to living a life of / | | | \ | | | power is to find courage, you must / | _| | / |__|__| be prepared to reach beyond the / |_____| |/ | boundaries of time itself; | / \ And to do that, all you need is the will to take that very first step." Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 3 01:14:29 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA02423 for sonic-ll; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 01:06:45 -0500 Received: from bigboote.WPI.EDU (root@bigboote.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id BAA02417 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 01:06:42 -0500 Received: from wpi.WPI.EDU (tedp@wpi.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.6]) by bigboote.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA01530; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 01:06:34 -0500 From: Theodore Patri Perrotti Received: (from tedp@localhost) by wpi.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.8.Alpha.1) id BAA08402; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 01:06:33 -0500 Message-Id: <199604030606.BAA08402@wpi.WPI.EDU> Subject: Re: Web page text formatting... To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 01:06:32 -0500 (EST) Cc: tedp@WPI.EDU (Theodore Patri Perrotti) In-Reply-To: from "Chris Forsyth" at Apr 2, 96 10:36:59 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > > Just a request, folks, but when you put a story on the web-page, > would you please format it to 80 characters? It's kind of annoying to have The only problem is that fanfic authors have to try to write their stories in formats that look good to people viewing them with many different programs and using many different monitors, many of which can't fit more than 78 characters on a line. So, whether they use 78 or 80 characters, their stories are going to appear messed up to some. Besides, reformatting long stories is a MAJOR pain in the you-know-what. > to scroll *waaaaaay* right because the entire paragraph is displayed as a > single line, and Netscape apparently has no word-wrap feature for plain You've got to be kidding! No word-wrap? That feature's an absolute must nowadays! Even Windows Notepad has it (though you do have to specifically activate the feature every time you run Notepad). > text files... > Thanks.. > Chris Forsyth > > From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 3 14:56:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA25929 for sonic-ll; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 14:31:09 -0500 Received: (rat@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA25919; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 14:31:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 14:31:06 -0500 (EST) From: Ratman To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Web page text formatting... In-Reply-To: <199604030606.BAA08402@wpi.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Wed, 3 Apr 1996, Theodore Patri Perrotti wrote: > > > > Just a request, folks, but when you put a story on the web-page, > > would you please format it to 80 characters? It's kind of annoying to have > > The only problem is that fanfic authors have to try to write their > stories in formats that look good to people viewing them with many > different programs and using many different monitors, many of which can't > fit more than 78 characters on a line. So, whether they use 78 or 80 > characters, their stories are going to appear messed up to some. > Besides, reformatting long stories is a MAJOR pain in the you-know-what. I require all fanfic to be word wrapped before getting into the Gargoyles section of my site. I don't run the Sonic fanfic, so I can't say what the rules are there. Word wrapping is easy! Get UltraEdit for Windows at http://rat.org/pub/msdos and it's under the "edit" menu called "convert wrap to CR/LF". If you have Macintosh, get BBedit. Try one of the info-mac mirrors to get a copy of that. > > to scroll *waaaaaay* right because the entire paragraph is displayed as a > > single line, and Netscape apparently has no word-wrap feature for plain > > You've got to be kidding! No word-wrap? That feature's an absolute must > nowadays! Even Windows Notepad has it (though you do have to > specifically activate the feature every time you run Notepad). Netscape does not have word wrap for text files (at least I didn't see anything about it). So I agree that textfile should be word wrapped. If you don't want to use text, then do it in Word, but the disadvantage is you can't click on it in Netscape and read it. You have to download it, and load up Word to view it. Ok, this is WAAY off topic. Let's not continue this thread on too much, OK? From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 3 22:00:48 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA28161 for sonic-ll; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 21:39:01 -0500 Received: from bigboote.WPI.EDU (root@bigboote.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA28155 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 21:38:58 -0500 Received: from garden.WPI.EDU (tedp@garden.WPI.EDU [130.215.8.145]) by bigboote.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA26278; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 21:38:49 -0500 From: Theodore Patri Perrotti Received: (from tedp@localhost) by garden.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.8.Alpha.1) id VAA07515; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 21:38:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199604040238.VAA07515@garden.WPI.EDU> Subject: Re: Web page text formatting... To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 21:38:48 -0500 (EST) Cc: tedp@WPI.EDU (Theodore Patri Perrotti) In-Reply-To: from "Ratman" at Apr 3, 96 02:31:06 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > I require all fanfic to be word wrapped before getting into the Gargoyles > section of my site. I don't run the Sonic fanfic, so I can't say what the > rules are there. > Word wrapping is easy! Get UltraEdit for Windows at > http://rat.org/pub/msdos and it's under the "edit" menu called "convert > wrap to CR/LF". > If you have Macintosh, get BBedit. Try one of the info-mac mirrors to get > a copy of that. Does Ultraedit run on Windows 3.1 or Windows 95? My computer with Windows 3.1, and it won't run the program. If it's for Win '95, is there a similar program for 3.1 or DOS? Also, I use WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS as a word processor. Will Ultraedit for Windows work on WordPerfect for DOS files? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog Theodore P. 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His Web page can be found at http://www.en.com/users/mighty/secret.html. If you would like to subscribe to this list, send an e-mail message to majordomo@lists.mv.net, leaving the Subject: line blank. In the text area, place "subscribe mettle" (without the quotes) on the first line and "end" on the second line. Many thanks to Ratman for giving us a virtual Knothole. The list manager is Erich Schulman who can be reached by e-mail at sonic@rat.org. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Sonic the Hedgehog" and "Sega" are registered trademarks of SEGA of America. The Sonic mailing list is an independent service not owned or operated by Sega, and not affiliated with Sega. Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog StH JJ1 Son+ Sal++ Tal++++t Nic+i Rot+i Lup+ P++ Dopw $+++ E25 Ay68 Mail: acme@use.usit.net | WWW: http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~eschulma From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 4 11:34:52 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA01385 for sonic-ll; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:20:44 -0500 Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca ([206.75.222.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA01377 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:20:35 -0500 Received: by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA35608; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 09:14:26 -0700 Received: by ender.cuug.ab.ca (V1.17-beta.31{ask@castrov.UUCP/10}/Amiga) id <86vu@ender.cuug.ab.ca>; Thu, 4 Apr 96 05:12:46 MDT Received: by sago.cuc.ab.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1(sago-1.3)) id AA07264; Thu, 4 Apr 96 04:58:26 MST Date: Thu, 4 Apr 96 04:58:26 MST Message-Id: <9604041158.AA07264@sago.cuc.ab.ca> From: uug@sago.cuc.ab.ca (William Graham) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic 35 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Well, I just picked up Sonic #35 today, and am reading the reviews on the list now. He was hard to catch this month! He sold out really faaassst at the comic stores I usually find him (within 3 days of arrival), but thankfully the 4th location I tried had one copy left. I better renew my subscription right away! :-) Ron Bauerle writes: > I agree with Quozl that 1 billion rings is a bit much. Maybe if you count all the copies of Sonic games sold, times the number of times each one has been played, times the number of rings Sonic collects each time he runs, you might come up with a number close to 1 billion. Maybe even a U.K. billion. (10^12 rather than 10^9 :-) > This story seemed a bit too strongly based on the games for me. I rather liked the premise of "Ring of Truth", it was like a glimpse into the Mobian supernatural. I was in suspense for the whole story, not knowing _what_ to expect -- as anything could happen! It was kind of cool to see things from the early issues again, like Dr. R's Checker Wrecker Ball (but called his Mega-Maceball this time). I think it bears certain similarities to the Amiga Boing Ball (from the first Amiga demo, Boing! The colour scheme is different, though). > But the Manak/Koslowski art was OK... Yep, it looks like Manak has been taking hints from Spaz, like interesting viewing angles. His artwork lends an "early issue" feel to this story, which ties in very nicely with some of the fundamental developments for the Mobian world mythos shown in this issue. > Other references from other shows: "Big Bird", and "hokey smokes" Maybe they are expressions Sonic picked up from being in two TV shows himself? :-) B.B. and Rocky & Bullwinkle have become part of N.A. culture. (I've been watching R&B again since I noticed YTV was airing it at 4:00 AM. Turns out I was missing half the jokes when I saw it as a kid. :-) > The quasi-King James English didn't do much for me, but I suppose it was > sort of "mandatory" (if not consistent: "thous and yous" were intermixed). Yeah, it bugged me that Gallagher didn't get the grammar quite right. Unless it was intentional. Since "ye" is plural, the 3rd Walker is addressing the _readership_, as well as Sonic. And I'd wager that the boon we have been granted is the Sonic Movie. :-) "What hidden meaning am I supposed to get from this?" and "Nothing is hidden -- only unseen!" could then be interpreted (for us) as "This story/issue contains some _mondo-major_ hints!". And then there's this SonicQuest -- it sounds like a story arc for future issues of the Sonic comic, but could it be the Movie instead? (How can you tell I'm getting really hyped up about the Sonic Movie already? :-) > Page 12: I thought a sideways figure-eight was the symbol for infinity, not > > eternity, but maybe I'm splitting hairs... So Sonic isn't that great at math... > Page 13: The 3rd walker's answer reminded me of a Twilight Zone episode [with a mathematician and the Devil] Cool! So being good at math doesn't help one much when talking with supernatural beings. > > But what's a "triple helix"? That chain didn't look like a helix > > at all to me... In the panel in the middle of page 10, are we looking along the axis of 3 chains twisted around one another? It's hard to tell, so I just took Sonic's word for it. I wonder if a triple-helical DNA-like molecule, that can encode information and triplicate itself, could really exist? Linked rings have all sorts of magical overtones. ("The Linking Ring" is even the title of a magicians' journal.) > New editor Fred Mendez... I noticed that Freddie is also the editor of _Street_Sharks_, which seems to have replaced Sonic in 7-11's around here. :-( (And also in the canned pasta department of the grocery stores.) At least it has a "Sonic Checklist" page. Makes sense in light of the Street Sharks cartoon, I suppose. > Rather weird Anime/video game-like representation of Sonic and Tails on the > last page... That must be a _huge_ hint, about something. Characters in Virtua Fighter are rendered like that, so it's probably a hint about Fighting Sonic. Characters in computer-generated animation (like ReBoot) are also modelled in wireframe, which looks something like this page too, so maybe the Archie Sonic team got to see some of the work-in-progress on the Sonic Movie. - William Graham - a net.freedom-fighter for a free Mobius! - From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 4 17:40:29 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA29323 for sonic-ll; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 17:08:30 -0500 Received: from inet.uni-c.dk (inet.uni-c.dk [130.228.6.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA29315 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 17:08:27 -0500 Received: from arh154.ppp.uni-c.dk (arh154.ppp.uni-c.dk [130.228.13.154]) by inet.uni-c.dk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA27728 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:05:11 +0200 Received: by arh154.ppp.uni-c.dk with Microsoft Mail id <01BB2283.CFC25420@arh154.ppp.uni-c.dk>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:07:00 +-200 Message-ID: <01BB2283.CFC25420@arh154.ppp.uni-c.dk> From: Michael Emil Hansen To: "'Sonic Mailing List'" Subject: Remark to the FAQ-files, and Sallys identety. Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:05:33 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net I have just bean reading som commic-strips, from rat.org. In the file = salsquel.gif, ther are a remark, and i quate It=B4s Sally = and som King-Kong maniaq, claiming a tower. I think that this will = arnser som questions. =DA=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C2=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=BF =B3 ___------__ =B3 =C9=CD=CD=CD =C9=CD=CD=CD = =C9=CD=CD=BB =C9=CD=CD=BB =B3 =B3 |\__-- /\ _- =B3 =CC=CD=CD =CC=CD=CD =CD=CD = =BA =BA =B3 =B3 | / __ _ =B3 =CA =CA =C8=CD=CD=BC = =C8=CD=CD=BC =B3 =B3 //\ / \ /__ =B3 Knothole. = =B3 =B3 | o| 0|__ --_ =B3 = =B3 =B3 \\____-- __ \ ___ - =B3 Commander Sonic Data. = =B3 =B3 (@@ __/ / /_ =B3 E-mail soniccsd@inet.uni-c.dk = =B3 =B3 -_____--- --_ =B3 ASCII Sonic by Han J. Lee = =B3 =C0=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C1=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=D9 From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 4 18:01:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA01230 for sonic-ll; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 17:44:55 -0500 Received: from tsb.weschke.com (foxfire@tsb.weschke.com [204.91.224.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA01225 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 17:44:52 -0500 Received: (from foxfire@localhost) by tsb.weschke.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id RAA06630; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 17:44:54 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 17:44:53 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Forsyth To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic 35 (spoilers) In-Reply-To: <9604041158.AA07264@sago.cuc.ab.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Thu, 4 Apr 1996, William Graham wrote: > Ron Bauerle writes: > > But what's a "triple helix"? That chain didn't look like a helix > > at all to me... > > In the panel in the middle of page 10, are we looking along the axis of 3 > chains twisted around one another? It's hard to tell, so I just took > Sonic's word for it. I wonder if a triple-helical DNA-like molecule, > that can encode information and triplicate itself, could really exist? > Actually, it already does. Where do you think bureaucrats come from? ;-) (You must fill your DNA out in triplicate... ;-) ) BTW, I think that maybe a *million* rings would have been a more appropriate value there--after all, in the average game, Sonic picks up a few thousand rings during play--and in the comic, he's been doing that for several years now. Chris Forsyth From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 4 22:08:48 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA04919 for sonic-ll; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 18:17:29 -0500 Received: from ns1.ptd.net (root@ns1.ptd.net [198.80.46.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA04914 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 18:17:26 -0500 Received: from JAYBIRD (cs4-3.leh.ptd.net [204.186.4.51]) by ns1.ptd.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA18828 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 18:17:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 18:17:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199604042317.SAA18828@ns1.ptd.net> X-Sender: sonic2@postoffice.ptd.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Jason Shank Subject: Sonic IRC chat Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net I don't know if anyone noticed, but the Sonic "IRC" chat thing is working (see Sonic resourse page)! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 4 22:33:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA01052 for sonic-ll; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 22:25:26 -0500 Received: from ns1.ptd.net (root@ns1.ptd.net [198.80.46.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA01046 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 22:25:23 -0500 Received: from JAYBIRD (cs4-2.leh.ptd.net [204.186.4.50]) by ns1.ptd.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA10509 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 22:25:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 22:25:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199604050325.WAA10509@ns1.ptd.net> X-Sender: sonic2@postoffice.ptd.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Jason Shank Subject: E-mail Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 21:35:14 >To: sonic@lists.mv.net >From: Jason Shank >Subject: E-mail > >I just got an E-mail that said "Welcome to Sonic-digest". What does that mean!? I was already on the Sonic mailing list! NEVERMIND (I hope, because this E-mail is scting screwy) From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 5 00:48:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA18371 for sonic-ll; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:23:59 -0500 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com (mail04.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.53]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA18366 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:23:57 -0500 From: RoBUTTnik@aol.com Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA20670 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:23:26 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:23:26 -0500 Message-ID: <960405002325_462834862@mail04> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Comments on Sonic 35 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net not to nit pick myself, but sometimes things are written or drawn in a comic because the writers and artistes have imangations (ecusse my bad spelling), of course sometimes the writers and artistes have been known to play trixes on their readers. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 5 02:00:50 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA22879 for sonic-ll; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 01:46:29 -0500 Received: from nic.data.net.mx (nic.data.net.mx [200.13.16.8]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id BAA22874 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 01:46:26 -0500 Received: from ts69.data.net.mx (ts69.data.net.mx [200.13.16.108]) by nic.data.net.mx (8.6.12/CN-CONFIG-0.3) with SMTP id AAA15446 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:44:18 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:44:18 -0600 Message-Id: <199604050644.AAA15446@nic.data.net.mx> X-Sender: alexmon1@mailer.data.net.mx X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: alexmon1@data.net.mx (ALEXANDRA MONCAYO ORTEGA) Subject: Re: Sonic IRC chat Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > I don't know if anyone noticed, but the Sonic "IRC" chat thing is >working (see Sonic resourse page)! Hi there! Yes I ve noticed it! Hey! What=B4s the best IRC channel to connect to? There are five different channels of IRC where to connect. And I personally would like to try it,and I need the best channel because my computer is really slow ..I just have got 2 1/2 megs free to run my other programms..Win 95 ruined me..aww Your pal=20 Alex! -----Chaotix and Knuckles are number= 1!----------------------------------------- Very soon my Chaotix homepage..so stay tuned..! > > From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 5 03:30:50 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id DAA28348 for sonic-ll; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 03:14:27 -0500 Received: from iwaynet.net (iwaynet.iwaynet.net [198.30.29.7]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id DAA28343 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 03:14:24 -0500 Received: from port125.iwaynet.net by iwaynet.net (8.7.1/SMI-4.1) id DAA24975; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 03:12:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 03:12:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199604050812.DAA24975@iwaynet.net> X-Sender: eggleton@iwaynet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: "Knuck's/Kulock" Subject: Re: Remark to the FAQ-files, and Sallys identety. Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 12:05 AM 4/5/96 +-200, you wrote: >I have just bean reading som commic-strips, from rat.org. In the file salsquel.gif, ther are a remark, and i quate It=B4s Sally and som King-Kong maniaq, claiming a tower. I think that this will arnser som= questions. > >=DA=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C2=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=BF >=B3 ___------__ =B3 =C9=CD=CD=CD =C9=CD=CD=CD =C9= =CD=CD=BB =C9=CD=CD=BB =B3 >=B3 |\__-- /\ _- =B3 =CC=CD=CD =CC=CD=CD =CD=CD =BA = =BA =B3 >=B3 | / __ _ =B3 =CA =CA =C8=CD=CD=BC= =C8=CD=CD=BC =B3 >=B3 //\ / \ /__ =B3 Knothole. = =B3 >=B3 | o| 0|__ --_ =B3 = =B3 >=B3 \\____-- __ \ ___ - =B3 Commander Sonic Data. = =B3 >=B3 (@@ __/ / /_ =B3 E-mail soniccsd@inet.uni-c.dk = =B3 >=B3 -_____--- --_ =B3 ASCII Sonic by Han J. Lee = =B3 >=C0=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C1=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=D9 > > > What, That King Kong's a squirrel? ;).. Seriously, is there any doubt now? Sally been deemed by 10 billion things to be a squirrel.. Now, how 'bout Rosie? Chipmunk, Beaver, what? Just wondering, -Knuck's/Kulock the Echidna/Moogle From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 5 07:44:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id HAA11462 for sonic-ll; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 07:42:40 -0500 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA11457 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 07:42:37 -0500 Received: from terra.nlnet.nf.ca (terra.nlnet.nf.ca [192.75.13.101]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA31612 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 09:12:35 -0330 (NST) Received: from n105h086.nlnet.nf.ca by terra.nlnet.nf.ca; (5.65/1.1.8.2/26Jan95-0807PM) id AA11169; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 09:12:31 -0330 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 09:12:31 -0330 Message-Id: <9604051242.AA11169@terra.nlnet.nf.ca> X-Sender: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (The Necromancer) Subject: Re: E-mail Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >>Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 21:35:14 >>To: sonic@lists.mv.net >>From: Jason Shank >>Subject: E-mail >> >>I just got an E-mail that said "Welcome to Sonic-digest". What does that >mean!? I was already on the Sonic mailing list! > > > NEVERMIND (I hope, because this E-mail is scting screwy) I got the same thing. I'm guessing the list-owner had some trouble and he had to resubscribe us all. ------------------------ The Necromancer lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca Modified cut from the Drake's Awakening: Scorchblade: "We either do or we don't, there is no try." Brooklyn: "I think Yoda's hiding under all that armor..." From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 5 09:35:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA18500 for sonic-ll; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 09:23:45 -0500 Received: (rat@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA18494; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 09:23:42 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 09:23:41 -0500 (EST) From: Ratman To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic IRC chat In-Reply-To: <199604050644.AAA15446@nic.data.net.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Fri, 5 Apr 1996, ALEXANDRA MONCAYO ORTEGA wrote: > > I don't know if anyone noticed, but the Sonic "IRC" chat thing i= s > >working (see Sonic resourse page)! >=20 > Hi there! >=20 > Yes I ve noticed it! > Hey! What=B4s the best IRC channel to connect to? > There are five different channels of IRC where to connect. > And I personally would like to try it,and I need the best channel because= my > computer is really slow ..I just have got 2 1/2 megs free to run my other > programms..Win 95 ruined me..aww If you have any technical questions, you should not be wasting all our=20 time about it, instead write to the owner of the web page. mpenna@vivanet.com Remember you just asked your question to over 100 people, when you only=20 had to ask one. Please be more careful in the future. And as usual, nobody reply to this message on the list. Thansk. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 5 10:03:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA19016 for sonic-ll; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 09:36:15 -0500 Received: from ns1.ptd.net (root@ns1.ptd.net [198.80.46.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA19001 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 09:36:09 -0500 Received: from JAYBIRD (cs1-16.leh.ptd.net [204.186.4.16]) by ns1.ptd.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA16192 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 09:35:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 09:35:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199604051435.JAA16192@ns1.ptd.net> X-Sender: sonic2@postoffice.ptd.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Jason Shank Subject: Sonic IRC Chat Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net If you want to go on the IRC thing go to the Sonic Resource Page, go to "Chat about Sonic" dowlnload the thing, read the instrcions CAREFULLY go to the Channel: Sonic (I'll ALWAYS be there Jaybird) And I ALWAYS use the IRC:irc.mo.net||Its the fastest and only one I can get to work I'm fopefully geting an E-mail chaGE to:Jaybird |because if I would of known There was a Mailing list, I wouldn't of used that name (now I know why someone had it already) Gota speed! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 5 12:06:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA01210 for sonic-ll; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 11:53:51 -0500 Received: from rgfn.epcc.Edu (rgfn.epcc.edu [206.42.175.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA01205 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 11:53:48 -0500 Received: by rgfn.epcc.Edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13161; Fri, 5 Apr 96 09:53:43 MST Date: Fri, 5 Apr 96 09:53:43 MST Message-Id: <9604051653.AA13161@rgfn.epcc.Edu> From: ab360@rgfn.epcc.edu (John W. Johnston) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Remark to the FAQ-files, and Sallys identety. Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >>I have just bean reading som commic-strips, from rat.org. In the file >>salsquel.gif, ther are a remark, and i quate >mini-mall at the tippity-top with that squealing SQUIRREL! >>It's Sally and som King-Kong maniaq, claiming a tower. I think that >>this will arnser som= questions. When I saw that picture in Sonic #17, and I remember all the "Is Sally a squirrel or a fox" posts, I decided to scan the picture and put it into Ratman's FTP site, to help resolve that issue. -- ab360@rgfn.epcc.edu or http://rgfn.epcc.edu/users/ab360/tails.html John W. Johnston | StH JJ1 tFF++ Tal+++it Amy+++ | From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 5 14:03:25 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA07055 for sonic-ll; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:18:14 -0500 Received: from en.com (en.com [204.89.181.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA07049 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:18:12 -0500 Received: from en.en.com (mighty.en.net [206.148.90.46]) by en.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id NAA10219 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:18:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:18:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199604051818.NAA10219@en.com> X-Sender: mighty@en.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: mighty@en.com (Doug LoConti) Subject: Re: irc Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net As for the Sonic IRC chat channel, how come...? How come I never see anyone on it? I want to TALK, dang it!! :) -MiGHTY PS-Mettle page updated --------------------------------------------------------- |\/| I G H T \/ @ E N . C O M / "Was many years ago that I left home and came this way.." "no brave new world, no brave new world..." -Iron Maiden, Stranger in a Strange Land 0 } I can run, I can FLY.... \|/ } I am immortal.... / \ } I will live and never die... -Queen ---------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 5 15:36:25 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA15359 for sonic-ll; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 14:59:58 -0500 Received: from ns1.ptd.net (root@ns1.ptd.net [198.80.46.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA15350 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 14:59:54 -0500 Received: from JAYBIRD (cs1-16.leh.ptd.net [204.186.4.16]) by ns1.ptd.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA15871 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 14:59:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 14:59:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199604051959.OAA15871@ns1.ptd.net> X-Sender: sonic2@postoffice.ptd.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Jason Shank Subject: Re: irc Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 01:18 PM 4/5/96 -0500, you wrote: >As for the Sonic IRC chat channel, how come...? How come I never see anyone >on it? I want to TALK, dang it!! :) Only try useing "irc.mo.net" IRC hannel. Its the only one I can get to work. Don't forget to follow the instructions on The Sonic Resourse Page. Later! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 5 17:48:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA25309 for sonic-ll; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 17:21:27 -0500 Received: from use.usit.net (acme@use.usit.net [199.1.48.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA25300 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 17:21:24 -0500 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA10429; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 17:21:13 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 17:21:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) Team OS/2" To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: E-mail In-Reply-To: <9604051242.AA11169@terra.nlnet.nf.ca> Message-ID: Organization: Rebel Alliance of Mobius MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Fri, 5 Apr 1996, The Necromancer wrote: > >>Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 21:35:14 > >>To: sonic@lists.mv.net > >>From: Jason Shank > >>Subject: E-mail > >> > >>I just got an E-mail that said "Welcome to Sonic-digest". What does that > >mean!? I was already on the Sonic mailing list! > > > > > > NEVERMIND (I hope, because this E-mail is scting screwy) > > I got the same thing. I'm guessing the list-owner had some trouble and he > had to resubscribe us all. What you received is an update to the list's intro text. I post it to the list every time there is an update to be sure everyone gets a chance to see it. I will also repost it from time to time as a reminder of the list's policies. You can always review the intro text by sending these 2 lines: info sonic end to majordomo@lists.mv.net in the text area of a message (leave the Subject: line blank). I plan on (finally!) writing the update to the list's Web page over the next few days. Then we'll have 3 FAQ's, the third one being a FAQ for the list itself. For those without Web access, the important information will continue being placed in the intro text. Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog StH JJ1 Son+ Sal++ Tal++++t Nic+i Rot+i Lup+ P++ Dopw $+++ E25 Ay68 Mail: acme@use.usit.net | WWW: http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~eschulma From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 5 18:08:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA26155 for sonic-ll; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 17:42:20 -0500 Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca ([206.75.222.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA26142 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 17:42:00 -0500 Received: by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA24148; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 15:35:15 -0700 Received: by ender.cuug.ab.ca (V1.17-beta.31{ask@castrov.UUCP/10}/Amiga) id <89ra@ender.cuug.ab.ca>; Fri, 5 Apr 96 04:22:17 MDT Received: by sago.cuc.ab.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1(sago-1.3)) id AA08167; Fri, 5 Apr 96 03:08:06 MST Date: Fri, 5 Apr 96 03:08:06 MST Message-Id: <9604051008.AA08167@sago.cuc.ab.ca> From: uug@sago.cuc.ab.ca (William Graham) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic IRC chat Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Jason Shank writes: > Subject: Sonic IRC chat > I don't know if anyone noticed, but the Sonic "IRC" chat thing is > working (see Sonic resourse page)! I noticed! It looks like 'waypast' is Ratman's bot, there to keep the channel open. - William Graham - a net.freedom-fighter for a free Mobius! - From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 5 18:42:29 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA29390 for sonic-ll; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 18:16:43 -0500 Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA29379 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 18:16:40 -0500 Received: from pm1-ip70.vivanet.com by vivanet.vivanet.com id aa02776; 5 Apr 96 18:19 EST Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960405231624.00668c80@mail.vivanet.com> X-Sender: mpenna@mail.vivanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 18:16:24 -0500 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: Sonic chat Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Okay everybody, as you might have noticed there's a new section on the Sonic Resource page that explains how to participate in Sonic chat on IRC. If you hadn't noticed, you better go look soon! (Everything you need to know can be found there.) While the channel is there all the time, I was hoping that we could set up "official" hours when most of us could be there at the same time. Once or twice a week would probably be the best for everybody, but I don't want to pick a time that's inconvenient for a lot of people. If you could all write to me (NOT TO THE LIST!) with suggestions for a convenient time, it would make this a lot easier. I realize that we have fans on the list from all over the world. I'll try to be accomodating, even if you are 16 hours out of sync with me. If you have any questions about chat, just send me e-mail. To reiterate, please DO NOT send questions to the list or to Ratman. Write to me ONLY. Any feedback on the Sonic chat WWW pages is welcome, as well. If you're ever on the channel, my nickname is MilesProw. I am the channel operator, along with the bot. I hope to see you there! -Matt Penna mpenna@vivanet.com MilesProw on EFNet From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 6 13:20:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA12935 for sonic-ll; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 13:07:57 -0500 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id NAA12930 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 13:07:54 -0500 Received: from ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.41]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA10568 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 10:11:07 -0800 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 10:11:07 -0800 Message-Id: <199604061811.KAA10568@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Yo, Now, for the $10,000.00 question. What is Sonic's max. speed (with power ring). What is Sonic's max. speed (without power ring). I've seen the question in Sonic-Grams lots of times, but the real speed is never said. -Chris Flinn I feel the need, the NeeD 4 SPeeD! dflinn@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 6 14:20:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA16822 for sonic-ll; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 14:14:11 -0500 Received: from inet.uni-c.dk (inet.uni-c.dk [130.228.6.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA16817 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 14:14:08 -0500 Received: from arh144.ppp.uni-c.dk (arh144.ppp.uni-c.dk [130.228.13.144]) by inet.uni-c.dk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA13582 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 21:10:46 +0200 Received: by arh144.ppp.uni-c.dk with Microsoft Mail id <01BB23FD.C38CC020@arh144.ppp.uni-c.dk>; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 21:12:29 +-200 Message-ID: <01BB23FD.C38CC020@arh144.ppp.uni-c.dk> From: Michael Emil Hansen To: "sonic@bort.mv.net" Subject: RE: speed Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 21:10:54 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net ---------- From: Dan[SMTP:dflinn@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us] Sent: 6, april 1996 20.11 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: speed Yo, Now, for the $10,000.00 question. What is Sonic's max. speed = (with power ring). What is Sonic's max. speed (without power ring). I've = seen the question in Sonic-Grams lots of times, but the real speed is never = said. -Chris Flinn I feel the need, the NeeD 4 SPeeD! dflinn@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us That=B4s a good question! Well I=B4ill try to arnser it. Sonic are yousing WARPspeed. Bud the = problem with WARP, is that you fold space (from STAR TREEK). The therri = of WARPspeed, can allso be eksplaned by Professor Hawkins. Well my therri is that he can run aboud mark 7 (7000 km/h) He has = mention warp 7. It cud bee mark 7. Well I=B4m arn=B4t shure. Bud it cud = eksplain som questions, bud it=B4s arsking som new. How dos he restand = the heat of fraktion agenst the wind?, and he=B4s shoes? Well we=B4l see. Well I=B4m jusing. =DA=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C2=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=BF =B3 ___------__ =B3 =C9=CD=CD=CD =C9=CD=CD=CD = =C9=CD=CD=BB =C9=CD=CD=BB =B3 =B3 |\__-- /\ _- =B3 =CC=CD=CD =CC=CD=CD =CD=CD = =BA =BA =B3 =B3 | / __ _ =B3 =CA =CA =C8=CD=CD=BC = =C8=CD=CD=BC =B3 =B3 //\ / \ /__ =B3 Knothole. = =B3 =B3 | o| 0|__ --_ =B3 = =B3 =B3 \\____-- __ \ ___ - =B3 Commander Sonic Data. = =B3 =B3 (@@ __/ / /_ =B3 E-mail soniccsd@inet.uni-c.dk = =B3 =B3 -_____--- --_ =B3 ASCII Sonic by Han J. Lee = =B3 =C0=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C1=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=D9 From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 6 16:02:03 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA22176 for sonic-ll; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 15:50:27 -0500 Received: from appstate-01.campus.mci.net (appstate-01.campus.mci.net [204.71.75.162]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA22163 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 15:50:23 -0500 Received: from s11-pm03.uncc.campus.mci.net (s11-pm03.uncc.campus.mci.net [206.24.84.100]) by appstate-01.campus.mci.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA15085 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 15:50:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 15:50:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199604062050.PAA15085@appstate-01.campus.mci.net> X-Sender: dhurst@appstate.campus.mci.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dennis Hurst Subject: site listings(first post) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Does anyone know of any other sites (WWW or FTP) with additional STH info, graphics, ect., other than at Bookshire's homepage (RAT.ORG) or Foxfire's (USERS.AOL.COM/DGONTERMAN). Your help will be appreaciated. -Dennis Hurst From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 6 16:32:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA23782 for sonic-ll; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 16:20:43 -0500 Received: from en.com (en.com [204.89.181.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA23775 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 16:20:40 -0500 Received: from en.en.com (mighty.en.net [206.148.90.46]) by en.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id QAA19231 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 16:29:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 16:29:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199604062129.QAA19231@en.com> X-Sender: mighty@en.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: mighty@en.com (Doug LoConti) Subject: Re: site listings(first post) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > Does anyone know of any other sites (WWW or FTP) with additional >STH info, graphics, ect., other than at Bookshire's homepage (RAT.ORG) or >Foxfire's (USERS.AOL.COM/DGONTERMAN). Your help will be appreaciated. > >-Dennis Hurst Check out http://rat.org/sonic And I have a page at: http://www.en.com/users/mighty --------------------------------------------------------- |\/| I G H T \/ @ E N . C O M / "Was many years ago that I left home and came this way.." "no brave new world, no brave new world..." -Iron Maiden, Stranger in a Strange Land 0 } I can run, I can FLY.... \|/ } I am immortal.... / \ } I will live and never die... -Queen ---------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 6 23:01:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA17701 for sonic-ll; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 22:53:59 -0500 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id WAA17696 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 22:53:55 -0500 Received: from ppp16.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp16.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.46]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA15713 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 19:57:03 -0800 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 19:57:03 -0800 Message-Id: <199604070357.TAA15713@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: easter Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hey, dudes, "This is the blue dude with an attitude, #1 Robuttnik Kicker, Remy, and the fastest thing alive, wishing you to have a way past cool Easter. Just don't get sick with all that chocolate, like Ant did. Yo, Ant! Feeling any better?" "Oh, zis eez ze vorst and terrible day of my young and 'ansome life! Sacre bleu cheeze. OOOOoo, I am not feeling too good!" "Ha, ha! Oh, look at the time, gotta juice! -Sonic Maurice Hedgehog The fastest thing alive I feel the NeeD 4 SPeeD! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 04:59:48 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id EAA10799 for sonic-ll; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 04:49:50 -0400 Received: from Sierra.onr.com (sierra.onr.com [199.1.90.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id EAA10794 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 04:49:47 -0400 Received: from onramp2-15.onr.com (onramp2-15.onr.com [199.1.90.36]) by Sierra.onr.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id DAA13203 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 03:45:51 -0500 Message-ID: <31678FF3.4774@onr.com> Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 01:50:43 -0800 From: Shawn Wolski X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Sonic's Speed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net OK, guys. This is in response to previous posts asking for Sonic's velocity (with and without power rings). I saw the figures in a previous post last year regarding this. My numbers might be off (read: currently unable to verify), but here's what I remember seeing: Without power ring: 300 mph (approx. 482.8 kph) With power ring: 1000 mph (approx. 1.6 Mph, that's megameters per hour, or if you prefer, 1600 kph) _______________________________________________________ Shawn Wolski, N5UNA n5una@onr.com From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 16:42:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA17850 for sonic-ll; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 16:24:11 -0400 Received: from mail.Clark.Net (mail.clark.net [168.143.0.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA17845 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 16:24:08 -0400 From: maxi@clark.net Received: from clark.net (maxi@clark.net [168.143.0.7]) by mail.Clark.Net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA07680 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 16:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (maxi@localhost) by clark.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA13944 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 16:23:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: clark.net: maxi owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 16:23:57 -0400 (EDT) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: New Sonic page In-Reply-To: <31678FF3.4774@onr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Juice on over to http://www.clark.net/pub/maxi/sonic/sonic.html and let me know what you think. Once I have access to a scanner, I will more art posted, plus so more WAV files. -Max ____________________________________________________________________________ Email: Maxi@clark.net o/~ TOOT TOOT Homepage: http://www.clark.net/pub/maxi/max.html Sonic warrior o/~ Mucks: Maximilian / Fang From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 18:37:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA24305 for sonic-ll; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:58:48 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id RAA24300 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:58:44 -0400 Received: from ppp16.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp16.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.46]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA24713 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 15:02:02 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 15:02:02 -0700 Message-Id: <199604072202.PAA24713@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hi, Someone said that Sonic with a power ring goes 1000 mph. Well then, if Sonic had the Deep Power Stones.... Let's see, the Power Stones are 10,000 times power rings, that would make Sonic travel at 10,000,000 mph., now THAT'S fast. -Chris A net Robuttnik (and Snively) Kicker for Mobius From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 19:20:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA28486 for sonic-ll; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 19:09:58 -0400 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA28481 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 19:09:56 -0400 Received: from terra.nlnet.nf.ca (terra.nlnet.nf.ca [192.75.13.101]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA01130 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 20:39:55 -0230 (NDT) Received: from n105h088.nlnet.nf.ca by terra.nlnet.nf.ca; (5.65/1.1.8.2/26Jan95-0807PM) id AA26688; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 20:39:51 -0230 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 20:39:51 -0230 Message-Id: <9604072309.AA26688@terra.nlnet.nf.ca> X-Sender: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (The Necromancer) Subject: Re: speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > Hi, > Someone said that Sonic with a power ring goes 1000 mph. Well then, >if Sonic had the Deep Power Stones.... Let's see, the Power Stones are >10,000 times power rings, that would make Sonic travel at 10,000,000 mph., >now THAT'S fast. > > -Chris > A net Robuttnik (and Snively) Kicker for Mobius Eek. Wouldn't his flesh and skin rip off at that speed? Eyeballs shoot into the back of his head? Spines shoot into the air, impaling people behind him? Ugh, I can see that I just painted some pretty pictures. Sorry. ------------------------ The Necromancer lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 21:00:52 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA05838 for sonic-ll; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 20:58:17 -0400 Received: from ns2.ac.edu ([134.224.1.29]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA05829 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 20:58:13 -0400 Received: from jaguar.ac.edu by ns2.ac.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22938; Sun, 7 Apr 96 21:03:27 EDT Received: by jaguar.ac.edu (wcGATE v4) id 39943W Mon, 8 Apr 1996 00:57:12 GMT From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) Subject: speed Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 23:17:57 GMT Message-Id: <96040720571240124@jaguar.ac.edu> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net -> From: Dan -> To: bort.mv.net!sonic -> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 15:02:02 -0700 -> Subject: speed -> -> Hi, -> Someone said that Sonic with a power ring goes 1000 mph. Well then, -> if Sonic had the Deep Power Stones.... Let's see, the Power Stones -> are 10,000 times power rings, that would make Sonic travel at -> 10,000,000 mph., now THAT'S fast. -> -> -Chris -> A net Robuttnik (and Snively) Kicker for Mobius -> And still NOWHERE in the league of the Red Guy (I.E. The Flash), since that's roughly about 3000 miles per second, and the Flasheroo has been known to approach lightspeed-- which, as we all know from Grade School Physics, is 186,000 MPS. Fast, yeah, but not up to yer spandex cladSew>9 From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 23:19:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA13802 for sonic-ll; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 23:09:41 -0400 Received: from mail (root@canal.iaw.on.ca [204.225.37.33]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA13797 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 23:09:38 -0400 Received: from nb1-40.iaw.on.ca by mail with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0u67Kj-000D3ZC; Sun, 7 Apr 96 23:09 EDT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 7 Apr 96 23:09 EDT X-Sender: butcher@iaw.on.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: butcher@iaw.on.ca (Paul Lapensee) Subject: Re: speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >-> From: Dan >-> To: bort.mv.net!sonic >-> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 15:02:02 -0700 >-> Subject: speed >-> >-> Hi, >-> Someone said that Sonic with a power ring goes 1000 mph. Well then, >-> if Sonic had the Deep Power Stones.... Let's see, the Power Stones >-> are 10,000 times power rings, that would make Sonic travel at >-> 10,000,000 mph., now THAT'S fast. >-> >-> -Chris >-> A net Robuttnik (and Snively) Kicker for Mobius >-> > And still NOWHERE in the league of the Red Guy (I.E. The Flash), >since that's roughly about 3000 miles per second, and the Flasheroo has >been known to approach lightspeed-- which, as we all know from Grade >School Physics, is 186,000 MPS. Fast, yeah, but not up to yer spandex >cladSew>9 > I don't think Sonic has a limt when he is using the power ring. It's just depends how much he needs and how much he can handle. There was a story writen some temperal syndom that uses this idea. In the end he died from over use. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 06:06:12 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id FAA14321 for sonic-ll; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 05:57:50 -0400 Received: from inet.uni-c.dk (inet.uni-c.dk [130.228.6.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id FAA14316 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 05:57:46 -0400 Received: from arh164.ppp.uni-c.dk (arh164.ppp.uni-c.dk [130.228.13.164]) by inet.uni-c.dk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA27010 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 11:54:25 +0200 Received: by arh164.ppp.uni-c.dk with Microsoft Mail id <01BB2542.5C001880@arh164.ppp.uni-c.dk>; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 11:56:02 +-200 Message-ID: <01BB2542.5C001880@arh164.ppp.uni-c.dk> From: Michael Emil Hansen To: "sonic@bort.mv.net" Subject: RE: speed Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 11:54:07 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net ---------- From: The Necromancer[SMTP:lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca] Sent: 8, april 1996 00.40 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: speed > Hi, > Someone said that Sonic with a power ring goes 1000 mph. Well = then, >if Sonic had the Deep Power Stones.... Let's see, the Power Stones are >10,000 times power rings, that would make Sonic travel at 10,000,000 = mph., >now THAT'S fast. > > -Chris > A net Robuttnik (and Snively) Kicker for Mobius Eek. Wouldn't his flesh and skin rip off at that speed? Eyeballs shoot = into the back of his head? Spines shoot into the air, impaling people behind = him? Ugh, I can see that I just painted some pretty pictures. Sorry.=20 ------------------------ The Necromancer lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca =20 I don=B4t think so. Wen Sonic and Sally are yousing the powerstons, they = are held inside a powershield. =DA=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C2=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=BF =B3 ___------__ =B3 =C9=CD=CD=CD =C9=CD=CD=CD = =C9=CD=CD=BB =C9=CD=CD=BB =B3 =B3 |\__-- /\ _- =B3 =CC=CD=CD =CC=CD=CD =CD=CD = =BA =BA =B3 =B3 | / __ _ =B3 =CA =CA =C8=CD=CD=BC = =C8=CD=CD=BC =B3 =B3 //\ / \ /__ =B3 Knothole. = =B3 =B3 | o| 0|__ --_ =B3 = =B3 =B3 \\____-- __ \ ___ - =B3 Commander Sonic Data. = =B3 =B3 (@@ __/ / /_ =B3 E-mail soniccsd@inet.uni-c.dk = =B3 =B3 -_____--- --_ =B3 ASCII Sonic by Han J. Lee = =B3 =C0=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C1=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=D9 From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 07:50:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id HAA18561 for sonic-ll; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 07:19:38 -0400 Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.6]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA18549 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 07:19:34 -0400 Received: from miles--world (spr-ma1-08.ix.netcom.com [205.184.172.40]) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id EAA10607 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 04:16:11 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4b13.32.19960408112401.0067c38c@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: danramos@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b13 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 07:24:01 -0400 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Ramos Subject: RE: speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 11:54 AM 4/8/96 +-200, you wrote: >> Hi, >> Someone said that Sonic with a power ring goes 1000 mph. Well= then, >>if Sonic had the Deep Power Stones.... Let's see, the Power Stones are >>10,000 times power rings, that would make Sonic travel at 10,000,000 mph., >>now THAT'S fast. >> >Eek. Wouldn't his flesh and skin rip off at that speed? Eyeballs shoot into >the back of his head? Spines shoot into the air, impaling people behind= him? > >Ugh, I can see that I just painted some pretty pictures. Sorry.=20 > > >I don=B4t think so. Wen Sonic and Sally are yousing the powerstons, they= are held inside a powershield. > Ummm... besides that... aren't they cartoons? :P heh... isn't there an entire cartoon physics that takes over? I mean.. things happen 'cause it's in the script not 'cause physics says so. :P "I just can't do it, Ciptin! I--DUNNA--HAVE--THE POWER!!" From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 15:29:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA24554 for sonic-ll; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:13:37 -0400 Received: from ns2.ac.edu ([134.224.1.29]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA24549 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:13:34 -0400 Received: from jaguar.ac.edu by ns2.ac.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27107; Mon, 8 Apr 96 15:18:49 EDT Received: by jaguar.ac.edu (wcGATE v4) id 35178W Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:12:13 GMT From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) Subject: speed Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:16:23 GMT Message-Id: <96040815121340453@jaguar.ac.edu> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net -> From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) -> To: bort.mv.net!sonic -> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 23:17:57 GMT -> Subject: speed -> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA -> -> -> From: Dan -> -> To: bort.mv.net!sonic -> -> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 15:02:02 -0700 -> -> Subject: speed -> -> -> -> Hi, -> -> Someone said that Sonic with a power ring goes 1000 mph. Well the -> -> if Sonic had the Deep Power Stones.... Let's see, the Power Stone -> -> are 10,000 times power rings, that would make Sonic travel at -> -> 10,000,000 mph., now THAT'S fast. -> -> -> -> -Chris -> -> A net Robuttnik (and Snively) Kicker for Mobius -> -> -> And still NOWHERE in the league of the Red Guy (I.E. The Flash), -> since that's roughly about 3000 miles per second, and the Flasheroo -> has been known to approach lightspeed-- which, as we all know from -> Grade School Physics, is 186,000 MPS. Fast, yeah, but not up to yer -> spandex cladSew>9 Sorry, netburp. To finish, nowhere near the speed of the typical spandex-clad speedster in your mainstream superduper comic. But, not to be sneezed at either. Also, from watching Doomsday, I'm not so sure that the energy of the DPS's were translated entirely into speed. There was a lot of it taking the form of a nigh-impenetrable bubble of force around Sonic & Sally. And a lot taking te form of destructive energy having little or nothing to do with speed. rob From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 17:12:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA29411 for sonic-ll; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:20:51 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.4.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA29404 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:20:47 -0400 Received: from sun-5.cae.wisc.edu (sun-5.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.69.181]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with ESMTP id PAA16681 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:20:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from firmiss@localhost) by sun-5.cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) id PAA02385; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:20:17 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:20:16 -0500 (CDT) From: James Firmiss To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic's Speed In-Reply-To: <31678FF3.4774@onr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Sun, 7 Apr 1996, Shawn Wolski wrote: > OK, guys. This is in response to previous posts asking > for Sonic's velocity (with and without power rings). I > saw the figures in a previous post last year regarding > this. My numbers might be off (read: currently unable > to verify), but here's what I remember seeing: > > Without power ring: 300 mph (approx. 482.8 kph) > With power ring: 1000 mph (approx. 1.6 Mph, that's > megameters per hour, or if you > prefer, 1600 kph) The only 2 references to speed in 'real' numbers I've ever seen in either the shows or the comic books. Both were in the Saturday AM series. In the 'Sonic Racer' episode, Robotnik sets up a race in order to draw out Sonic. Sonic's main rival is a Cheeta-bot which Robotnik earlier tested at 500 mph going 'half speed' (i.e. 1000 mph full speed). In a different episode, Robotnik was able to get a Power Ring in order to power his 'Sonic Radar'. The Radar was designed to pick up only those objects going faster than sound (i.e. Sonic). There were also a number of times, in the first season especially, when we heard Sonic breaking the sound barrier without using a power ring. These shows imply that Sonic's 'normal cruzing speed' is somewhere between 800 mph (faster than sound) and 1000 mph ('slow' enough so that the Cheeta-bot would provide tough competition) [speed rounded to nearest 100 mph] As far as power rings go we've NEVER seen any references to real speeds when he uses one of them... I can only guess that the biggest upper limit would be orbital velocity (about mach 25 on Earth). I've always assumed it was about mach 3 or 4 for no particular reason. Also... something to note about power vs speed... From what I remember in physics class: * to double your speed you need to double the power only works in laminar flow situations... when air (or other medium such as water) flows smoothly around an object passing through it. In air this is probably less than walking speed (3 mph) * to double your speed you need to Octuple (8x) the power is more accurate for turbulent flow situations... when air swirls around an object passing through in complex eddies and waves (e.g. an oar through water). I'm not sure if this holds for super-sonic speeds but if it does, then comparing Sonic's speed with power ring vs the deep power stones would give you this: power ring = 1 deep power stones = 10000 speed with ring = x speed with stones = 21.5 x Anyway... I just thought I'd add more confusion to this argument. -- James Firmiss firmiss@cae.wisc.edu @[=g3,8d]\&fbb=-q]/hk%fg" From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 19:27:25 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA10041 for sonic-ll; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:44:51 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA10036 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:44:48 -0400 Received: from ppp15.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp15.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.45]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA12304 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:47:52 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:47:52 -0700 Message-Id: <199604082247.PAA12304@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: sound? Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hey guys, How fast is the speed of sound through air, anyway? My computer only says 1,087 ft. per sec., but I don't know how fast that is in mph. -me From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 20:22:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA17519 for sonic-ll; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 20:07:19 -0400 Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA17512 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 20:07:16 -0400 From: RoBUTTnik@aol.com Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA23020 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 20:06:45 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 20:06:45 -0400 Message-ID: <960408200644_267011617@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: RE: speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net thank you danrmos From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 20:45:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA16898 for sonic-ll; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:52:11 -0400 Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com (emout04.mail.aol.com [198.81.10.12]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA16890 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:52:08 -0400 From: RoBUTTnik@aol.com Received: by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA22838 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:51:36 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:51:36 -0400 Message-ID: <960408195135_266998493@emout04.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: RE: speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net sonics red sneaks are fricton resistant as for the wind maybe its some kind of mutation unique to sonic (after all mutations are quite natural in nature) From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 20:47:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA17170 for sonic-ll; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:58:39 -0400 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com (emout08.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.23]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA17164 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:58:36 -0400 From: RoBUTTnik@aol.com Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA15238 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:58:05 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:58:05 -0400 Message-ID: <960408195802_267004009@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: site listings(first post) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Ive been too busy with work to check these out yet but try these search engines all in one search page altavista excite netsearch ez find find it info seek inktomi lycos open text webcrawler whole internet catalog wwwworm yahoo! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 21:49:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA21489 for sonic-ll; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:05:43 -0400 Received: from dns.mcn.net (root@dns.mcn.net [204.212.170.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA21484 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:05:40 -0400 Received: from [204.212.170.177] (blpm01-177.MCN.NET [204.212.170.177]) by dns.mcn.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA03690 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:05:27 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora 1.5.4b11 (Light) for Mac Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:05:35 -0600 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: bjirish@mcn.net (Brian Irish) Subject: Re: sound? Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 3:47 PM 04/08/1996, Dan wrote: > Hey guys, > How fast is the speed of sound through air, anyway? My computer >only says 1,087 ft. per sec., but I don't know how fast that is in mph. 1,087 fps comes out to 741.136 mph, I do believe. 1087 * 60 * 60 / 5280 Brian If I feel a little unsafe where I'm going, then I am going in the right direction... - David Bowie From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 21:52:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA21500 for sonic-ll; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:06:03 -0400 Received: from bigboote.WPI.EDU (root@bigboote.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA21494 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:05:58 -0400 Received: from garden.WPI.EDU (tedp@garden.WPI.EDU [130.215.8.145]) by bigboote.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02810; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:05:50 -0400 From: Theodore Patri Perrotti Received: (from tedp@localhost) by garden.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.8.Alpha.1) id VAA00171; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:05:48 -0400 Message-Id: <199604090105.VAA00171@garden.WPI.EDU> Subject: Sonic's Speed To: sonic@bort.mv.net (sonic) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:05:47 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tedp@WPI.EDU (Theodore Patri Perrotti) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net All this talk about Sonic's speed has reminded me of a couple questions I've been meaning to ask. In the Saturday AM show, the other Freedom Fighters often grabbed hold of him and rode behind him as he juiced. How did they ever hold onto him while he was moving that fast? Also, wouldn't whoever was directly behind Sonic get impaled on his quills when he stopped suddenly? (Ewww! That could be nasty!) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) perrottit.mbr@asme.org Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester Polytechnic Institute ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 22:02:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA22572 for sonic-ll; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:38:51 -0400 Received: from bigboote.WPI.EDU (root@bigboote.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA22566 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:38:49 -0400 Received: from garden.WPI.EDU (tedp@garden.WPI.EDU [130.215.8.145]) by bigboote.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA08672; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:38:44 -0400 From: Theodore Patri Perrotti Received: (from tedp@localhost) by garden.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.8.Alpha.1) id VAA03272; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:38:43 -0400 Message-Id: <199604090138.VAA03272@garden.WPI.EDU> Subject: Re: easter To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:38:43 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tedp@WPI.EDU (Theodore Patri Perrotti) In-Reply-To: <199604070357.TAA15713@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> from "Dan" at Apr 6, 96 07:57:03 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > > Hey, dudes, > "This is the blue dude with an attitude, #1 Robuttnik Kicker, Remy, > and the fastest thing alive, wishing you to have a way past cool Easter. > Just don't get sick with all that chocolate, like Ant did. Yo, Ant! Feeling > any better?" > "Oh, zis eez ze vorst and terrible day of my young and 'ansome life! > Sacre bleu cheeze. OOOOoo, I am not feeling too good!" > > "Ha, ha! Oh, look at the time, gotta juice! > > -Sonic Maurice Hedgehog > The fastest thing alive > I feel the NeeD 4 SPeeD! > > Way past!!! Thanks, Sonic! Gee, I wonder what would happen if you were to offer Ant a chili dog right now. Nothing pretty, I'll bet! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) perrottit.mbr@asme.org Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester Polytechnic Institute ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 23:01:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA26195 for sonic-ll; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:34:21 -0400 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com (emout08.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.23]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA26190 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:34:18 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA15420 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:33:48 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:33:48 -0400 Message-ID: <960408223347_508902571@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: sound? Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net I was wondering.... years ago, a story was released that said that Sonic had a real name (no lie, actuality reality). Does anyone remember it? From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 23:06:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA26286 for sonic-ll; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:37:12 -0400 Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA26280 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:37:10 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA20179 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:36:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:36:39 -0400 Message-ID: <960408223635_508905057@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic's Speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Heh... N E wayz, in the realm of cartoons, no one considers that stuff! Just enjoy the fact that no one was impaled and that they're still around, dude. Oh, and I just was wondering.... does anyone own a real Hedgehog? My friend does (named it Sonic of course.) "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic SUPER STH@aol.com From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 23:24:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA26553 for sonic-ll; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:43:13 -0400 Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA26537 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:42:50 -0400 Received: from pm4-ip140.vivanet.com by vivanet.vivanet.com id aa09287; 8 Apr 96 22:44 EDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960409024135.0066548c@mail.vivanet.com> X-Sender: mpenna@mail.vivanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 22:41:35 -0400 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: Re: Sonic's Speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 09:05 PM 4/8/96 -0400, you wrote: >All this talk about Sonic's speed has reminded me of a couple questions >I've been meaning to ask. In the Saturday AM show, the other Freedom >Fighters often grabbed hold of him and rode behind him as he juiced. How >did they ever hold onto him while he was moving that fast? Also, wouldn't >whoever was directly behind Sonic get impaled on his quills when he stopped >suddenly? (Ewww! That could be nasty!) Well, I suppose if you look at it from the "Cartoon Physics" point of view, none of this matters. There was a good example of this in that "The Real Ghostbusters" cartoon series almost 10 years ago. They were all transported to a cartoon world, and Egon, logical as ever, couldn't adjust. "Egon! Help me move this lake!" "You cannot pick up a lake and move it! It's illogical!" It was pretty weird, but it was funny. But, if you look at it from the real world physics point of view, yeah. When Sonic stops, he would have quite a mess to peel off of his back. Holding onto something that's going faster than mach 1 (Mach 1 is the speed of sound) wouldn't be possible (Obviously). I have to go in for the cartoon explanation. The force of friction from the air alone would be enormous. Unless there were some kind of genetic mutation that protected Sonic from affects like that. This hasn't really been explained, yet. A note to all of you trying to figure out the Physics of it: Using The U.S. system of measurements rarely works. Most of the laws of physics were defined using the metric system. Use meters, not miles. -Matt From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 00:37:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA14938 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 00:16:28 -0400 Received: from Sierra.onr.com (sierra.onr.com [199.1.90.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA14933 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 00:16:26 -0400 Received: from onramp2-6.onr.com (onramp2-6.onr.com [199.1.90.27]) by Sierra.onr.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id XAA26536 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 23:12:29 -0500 Message-ID: <316A00DF.3D64@onr.com> Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 23:17:03 -0700 From: Shawn Wolski X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic's Speed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net A previous post said: >All this talk about Sonic's speed has reminded me of a couple questions >I've been meaning to ask. In the Saturday AM show, the other Freedom >Fighters often grabbed hold of him and rode behind him as he juiced. How >did they ever hold onto him while he was moving that fast? Also, wouldn't >whoever was directly behind Sonic get impaled on his quills when he stopped >suddenly? (Ewww! That could be nasty!) I assume what they did was (considering that this is cartoon physics) make Sonic's quills sharp when he wanted or needed them to be. :) If not, noone would've been able to hitch a ride on Sonic's back, period. As for the wind generation and other associated forces with the high velocity, well...Hedgehog doesn't have a nav deflector array. How any- one stays on is anyone's guess. Rack it up to cartoon physics again. _____________________________________________________________________ Shawn Wolski, N5UNA n5una@onr.com From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 05:17:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id FAA02260 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 05:01:42 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net (acme@use.usit.net [199.1.48.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id FAA02255 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 05:01:39 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id FAA19800; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 05:01:37 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 05:01:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) Team OS/2" To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic's Speed In-Reply-To: <960408223635_508905057@emout07.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: Organization: Rebel Alliance of Mobius MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Mon, 8 Apr 1996 SUPERSTH@aol.com wrote: > Oh, and I just was wondering.... does anyone own a real Hedgehog? My friend > does (named it Sonic of course.) As far as I know of, no one on the list has a pet hedgehog. For those of you interested in this, check out these pages: http://www.pci.on.ca/~macnamar/velcro.html http://fohnix.metronet.com/~mcgary/hedgehogs.html http://www.primenet.com/~khyri/hedgehog/ I haven't checked these pages recently, so it's possible 1 or more of the URL's could be outdated. If someone on the list does have a 'hog, why not take a picture and scan it for your page (assuming your provider gives you space for a page). Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog StH JJ1 Son+ Sal++ Tal++++t Nic+i Rot+i Lup+ P++ Dopw $+++ E25 Ay68 Mail: acme@use.usit.net | WWW: http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~eschulma From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 06:32:38 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id GAA05707 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 06:13:45 -0400 Received: from inet.uni-c.dk (inet.uni-c.dk [130.228.6.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id GAA05696 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 06:13:40 -0400 Received: from arh141.ppp.uni-c.dk (arh141.ppp.uni-c.dk [130.228.13.141]) by inet.uni-c.dk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA28501 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:10:16 +0200 Received: by arh141.ppp.uni-c.dk with Microsoft Mail id <01BB260D.BDCBC8E0@arh141.ppp.uni-c.dk>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:11:54 +-200 Message-ID: <01BB260D.BDCBC8E0@arh141.ppp.uni-c.dk> From: Michael Emil Hansen To: "'Sonic Mailing List'" Subject: New page Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:11:20 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net SGV5IGdveXMuIEhlciBpcyBhIG5ldyBwYWdlDQpodHRwOi8vaW5ldC51bmktYy5kay9zb25pY2Nz ZC9tZW51Lmh0bQ0KVGVsbCBtZSBod290IHlvdSB0aGluayBvZiBpdC4NCtrExMTExMTExMTExMTE xMTExMTExMTExMTCxMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTE xMS/DQqzICAgICAgICBfX18tLS0tLS1fXyAgICAgsyAgICAgICAgICAgIMnNzc0gyc3NzSAgICDJ zc27IMnNzbsgICAgICAgICAgICAgsw0KsyB8XF9fLS0gICAvXCAgICAgICBfLSAgILMgICAgICAg ICAgICDMzc0gIMzNzSAgzc0guiAgICC6ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgILMNCrMgfCAvICAgIF9fICAg ICAgIF8gICAgICCzICAgICAgICAgICAgyiAgICDKICAgICAgIMjNzbwgyM3NvCAgICAgICAgICAg ICCzDQqzICAvL1wgIC8gIFwgICAgIC9fXyAgICAgsyAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICBLbm90aG9s ZS4gICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgsw0KsyAgfCAgb3wgIDB8X18gICAgICAtLV8gILMgICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgILMNCrMgIFxcX19fXy0tIF9f IFwgICBfX18gLSCzICAgICAgICAgICAgIENvbW1hbmRlciBTb25pYyBEYXRhLiAgICAgICAgICAg ICCzDQqzICAoQEAgICAgX18vICAvIC9fICAgICAgsyAgICAgICAgIEUtbWFpbCBzb25pY2NzZEBp bmV0LnVuaS1jLmRrICAgICAgICAgsw0KsyAgICAgLV9fX19fLS0tICAgLS1fICAgILMgICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgILMNCrMgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICCzICAgICAgICAgICBBU0NJSSBTb25pYyBieSBIYW4gSi4gTGVlICAgICAgICAg ICCzDQrAxMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTEwcTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTE xMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTE2Q0K From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 07:16:03 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id HAA08717 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 07:11:23 -0400 Received: from inet.uni-c.dk (inet.uni-c.dk [130.228.6.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA08701 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 07:10:57 -0400 Received: from arh143.ppp.uni-c.dk (arh143.ppp.uni-c.dk [130.228.13.143]) by inet.uni-c.dk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA06882 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:06:31 +0200 Received: by arh143.ppp.uni-c.dk with Microsoft Mail id <01BB2615.995D0700@arh143.ppp.uni-c.dk>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:08:09 +-200 Message-ID: <01BB2615.995D0700@arh143.ppp.uni-c.dk> From: Michael Emil Hansen To: Michael Emil Hansen , "'Sonic Mailing List'" Subject: RE: New page Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:07:13 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net ---------- From: Michael Emil Hansen Sent: 9, april 1996 12.11 To: 'Sonic Mailing List' Subject: New page Hey goys. Her is a new page http://inet.uni-c.dk/soniccsd/menu.htm a miner mestake. It=B4s sopost to bee = htto://inet.uni-c.dk/~soniccsd/menu.htm Tell me hwot you think of it. =DA=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C2=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=BF =B3 ___------__ =B3 =C9=CD=CD=CD =C9=CD=CD=CD = =C9=CD=CD=BB =C9=CD=CD=BB =B3 =B3 |\__-- /\ _- =B3 =CC=CD=CD =CC=CD=CD =CD=CD = =BA =BA =B3 =B3 | / __ _ =B3 =CA =CA =C8=CD=CD=BC = =C8=CD=CD=BC =B3 =B3 //\ / \ /__ =B3 Knothole. = =B3 =B3 | o| 0|__ --_ =B3 = =B3 =B3 \\____-- __ \ ___ - =B3 Commander Sonic Data. = =B3 =B3 (@@ __/ / /_ =B3 E-mail soniccsd@inet.uni-c.dk = =B3 =B3 -_____--- --_ =B3 = =B3 =B3 =B3 ASCII Sonic by Han J. Lee = =B3 =C0=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C1=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=D9 From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 12:10:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA00505 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:53:18 -0400 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA00473 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:52:56 -0400 Received: from terra.nlnet.nf.ca (terra.nlnet.nf.ca [192.75.13.101]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA24246 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:22:47 -0230 (NDT) Received: from n105h082.nlnet.nf.ca by terra.nlnet.nf.ca; (5.65/1.1.8.2/26Jan95-0807PM) id AA00630; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:22:43 -0230 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:22:43 -0230 Message-Id: <9604091552.AA00630@terra.nlnet.nf.ca> X-Sender: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (The Necromancer) Subject: Re: Sonic's Speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >All this talk about Sonic's speed has reminded me of a couple questions >I've been meaning to ask. In the Saturday AM show, the other Freedom >Fighters often grabbed hold of him and rode behind him as he juiced. How >did they ever hold onto him while he was moving that fast? Also, wouldn't >whoever was directly behind Sonic get impaled on his quills when he stopped >suddenly? (Ewww! That could be nasty!) Actually, I think they would fly ahead of him when he stopped. But didn't I already make that joke? ------------------------ The Necromancer lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 12:59:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA02564 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:16:14 -0400 Received: from en.com (en.com [204.89.181.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA02559 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:16:10 -0400 Received: from en.en.com (mighty.en.net [206.148.90.46]) by en.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id MAA12691 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:18:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:18:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199604091618.MAA12691@en.com> X-Sender: mighty@en.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: mighty@en.com (Doug LoConti) Subject: Re: Sega guy Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Not to get of topic, but I need to know who's the "Sega guy" on this list. E-mail adress will be fine. I need to know so I can talk to him about Mettle & charachter rights. Thanx! :) --------------------------------------------------------- |\/| I G H T \/ @ E N . C O M / "Was many years ago that I left home and came this way.." "no brave new world, no brave new world..." -Iron Maiden, Stranger in a Strange Land 0 } I can run, I can FLY.... \|/ } I am immortal.... / \ } I will live and never die... -Queen ---------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 16:05:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA18977 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 15:40:38 -0400 Received: from ns2.ac.edu ([134.224.1.29]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA18956 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 15:40:28 -0400 Received: from jaguar.ac.edu by ns2.ac.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03956; Tue, 9 Apr 96 15:45:38 EDT Received: by jaguar.ac.edu (wcGATE v4) id 36827W Tue, 9 Apr 1996 19:38:40 GMT From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) Subject: Other Sonics-- The Barbarian Conclusion (0/3) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 19:24:46 GMT Message-Id: <96040915384041214@jaguar.ac.edu> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Yes. finally. It's not very long, and if you want to see the first part, I'll direct you to the Rat pages. But it's here, at last. Now-- GET OFF OF MY BACK! **GRYN** ROB From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 16:19:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA18976 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 15:40:37 -0400 Received: from ns2.ac.edu ([134.224.1.29]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA18968 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 15:40:33 -0400 Received: from jaguar.ac.edu by ns2.ac.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03968; Tue, 9 Apr 96 15:45:41 EDT Received: by jaguar.ac.edu (wcGATE v4) id 36830W Tue, 9 Apr 1996 19:38:43 GMT From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) Subject: OTHER SONICS CONC. (3/3) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 19:30:02 GMT Message-Id: <96040915384341217@jaguar.ac.edu> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Epilogue Son-Ak was somewhat uncomfortable. Fine clothes weren't his favorite idea, even after these months in the Princess's court. The magician, Antos, still didn't seem to like him any better, even if he now trusted him. Bunnie, at least, was now more of a friend. The accidental rescue by the twin-tailed one had elevated a street- thief to the court as a ward of the Crown, and his four friends had been adopted, in a fashion, by the housekeepers of the Palace. And all of them know that Roboth-Amon would strike again, for dark wizards are known for their refusal to accept failure. The incursions of the golems at the borders were growing more frequent, and there was still the matter of the shadowy figure that young Milos had mentioned that night he had saved the Princess and met Son-Ak. Odd, that. It had turned out that Milos was the one who had purloined Son-Ak's purse, and far from being foes, the hedgehog had soon found himself a object of hero-worship by the young vulpine. A page-- the child-cat named Cleth, appraoched Son-Ak. "M'Lord," he said, as though he was reciting a lesson-- which, in fact, he was-- "It is time." And once again, as he had every day for the last three months, Son-Ak drew a blue and red cloak over his new chain-mail, hefted his axe (the only person besides Captain Rabbot to bear arms in the presence of the Princess), strode up the aisle to the throne, and took his place at the right-hand side, as the herald announced his presence-- "Lord Sonic of the Cad-Hai, Champion of the Crown." "Princess," Son-Ak whispered, "Could you do SOMETHING to get that fool to pronounce my name right?" The End. A Rennaisance Mouse Production So, there it is. Whaddya think, sirs? rob s From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 16:43:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA23594 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:22:59 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id QAA23589 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:22:56 -0400 Received: from ppp7.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp7.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.37]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA28320 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:26:17 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:26:17 -0700 Message-Id: <199604092026.NAA28320@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Sonic's Speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 10:36 PM 4/8/96 -0400, you wrote: >Heh... N E wayz, in the realm of cartoons, no one considers that stuff! Just >enjoy the fact that no one was impaled and that they're still around, dude. >Oh, and I just was wondering.... does anyone own a real Hedgehog? My friend >does (named it Sonic of course.) > >"Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic > >SUPER STH@aol.com > Hi, Chris here, you can catch hedgehog lovers at: http://www.iquest.net/~ranyart/spiney.html. -Chris Rotubnik is going down-hard and fast! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 16:49:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA18979 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 15:40:40 -0400 Received: from ns2.ac.edu ([134.224.1.29]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA18957 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 15:40:31 -0400 Received: from jaguar.ac.edu by ns2.ac.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03964; Tue, 9 Apr 96 15:45:40 EDT Received: by jaguar.ac.edu (wcGATE v4) id 36829W Tue, 9 Apr 1996 19:38:42 GMT From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) Subject: OTHER SONICS CONC. (2/3) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 19:28:30 GMT Message-Id: <96040915384241216@jaguar.ac.edu> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Salar-Alicia was not, as might have been guessed, a frail flower of gentility or anything else so inane. Neither was she a warrior, though, and warrior or not the sight of two of Roboth- Amon's Iron Golems stepping through her mirror would startle-- and panic-- anyone. It certainly didn't do much for the Princess' nerves at the moment. As the guardsman and the Hedgehog burst into her quarters, the swordbunny close behind with the sorcerer, they froze at the tableau. "We cannot attack, lest we harm ze princess," whispered Antos. "Can't just stand here, mage," hissed Son-Ak. "Ah don't suppose y'all got a better idea?" added Bunnie, her distress allowing her southlander accent to bleed through. Outside the window, a shadow-cloaked figure watched. Sniv, master thief, spy, and assassin, viewed the scene with mixed satisfaction and horror. A job well done, certainly, and his master would be pleased at it's efficiency, but he had never felt comfortable around the implacable golems of Roboth-Amon. He was certain that he never would. Discomfited as he was, though, he could not repress a grin of satisfaction as another golem stepped through the mirror. Whatever else others might think, Sniv did his job well. He saw no possible flaw in the "exercise" this night. Below the window, Milos and his charge were approaching the palace, preparing to wind about to the rear, and the kitchen doors. The little fox had always had sharp eyes (a dull-eyed thief tends not to last long-- not with both hands, at any rate) and he was noticing something almost invisible up higher on the wall. Thinking in terms of a master burglar, an idea came to him. "Cleth," he told the kitten, "Wait here. I wanna get a look at that guy. Maybe I can learn something." "What guy?" Cleth asked. "I don't see no guy, Tails." Tails grinned. "That's one of the MANY reasons why I am your fearless leader, little one." "I thought it was because you could thump Raffer whenever he gets out of line," replied the kitten doubtfully. "That too," agreed Tails. "Wait here-- in the shadows. I'll be right back." Stepping to one side, out of sight of any passers-by, Milos doffed his cloak and once again began to spin the twin tails that had given him his nickname. He rose up from the littered streets, into the air- and, incidentally, destiny. As a fourth golem began to emerge from the mirror, Son-Ak decided to make his move. Stepping forwards, he slowly placed his axe at his feet, in a gesture of apparent surrender. Watching from his citadel in the Eastrealm, Roboth-Amon smiled. What had been planned as a test seemed to be developing into a successful abduction instead. He decided to indulge himself. <> came a gravelly voice from the mirror. The glass wavered, as though it were a pond that had been struck by a handful of pebbles, and the face of the Dark Wizard appeared. It was not a pretty face. Massive jowls framed a almost conical head, with a black skullcap and a bristling red mustache. Most would have called the race Human, but there was an undefinable air of inhumanity about it. Especially in the eyes-- eyes with no whites, but instead black onyx-like sheen with tiny red pinpricks of glow, like coals. Whatever Roboth-Amon had been, years of trafficking in dark magics had changed him into something else. << How unexpectedly fortunate it is,>> the apparition continued. <> Bunnie stood, unwilling to act while one of the golems held her princess. Antos tensed, holding power in his frame, but unable to release it while the ground-squirrel was held. And Son-Ak-- grinned. "Prowess?", he murmured. Before anyone could react, the hedgehog leapt up into the air, tucking into a roll. Again, as he had in the tavern the day before, he spun with inconceivable velocity, hurtling towards the golem holding the Princess, this time slicing through the restraining arm. As Salar-Alicia fell, half-conscious, he rebounded off the far wall, caught her, and half-spun, half-leaped behind the swordbunny and the fox-mage. "Your turn, friends," Son-ak laughed. Antos suddenly snarled out something-- something in a language that somehow Son-Ak could not quite hear, could not quite know. A Bright green blast of light erupted from his palms, shattering the now- damaged golem. As he turned to smite another, Bunnie drew her great blade and attacked a third, wielding it with fearsome skill. Son-Ak handed the dazed Princess to the guardsman and reclaimed his axe, and then erupted into the chilling battlecry of his tribe. Again the axe spun in a silvered circle, and again he struck the remaining golem, shattering it's shell. As he turned to attack another, he saw Antos melt-- literally melt-- one of the two remaining ones, and Bunnie, with what even he had to admit was amazing skill, strike the final golem in it's visor, causing it to shatter. "Yeeee----alllhhhhhhhhhh!" Son-Ak screamed. "Prowess, you wanted, fat one? THUS is the prowess of Son-Ak of the Cad-Hai, the runner, the smiter, the warrior,--" << The insufferable. If I cannot have my prize, then no one shall.>> The face faded from th mirror, just as it exploded, and a dark, smoky burst of eldritch force struck the princess-- and cast her out of the window. Fate. It's out there. It makes kings of vagabonds, jesters of wise men, and hack fanwriters of computer students. It can also make a hero out of a ten year old fox, at the right moment. Milos had no idea what had happened. Just as he had gotten to the level of the window, all hell had-- apparently-- broken loose. Perhaps it was some rich-person thing, he guessed. Then the chadowy figure had vanished, slipping into darker shadows, and a figure suddenly flew out the window. Tails didn't think. He simply reacted. If some-one is falling, you catch them. And so he dove, grabbed a leg, and desparately held on until he could lower the form to safety. Which is how Milos, Sneak thief, Gang leader, and half- educated street-urchin, became the Ward of Salar-Alicia, Princess of House Acorn, Heir to the throne of Mobius. Had he known how his life was to be upset, he might have let her fall. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 17:22:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA23962 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:32:12 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id QAA23945 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:32:08 -0400 Received: from ppp7.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp7.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.37]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA28562 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:35:34 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:35:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199604092035.NAA28562@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Sonic's Speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 09:05 PM 4/8/96 -0400, you wrote: >All this talk about Sonic's speed has reminded me of a couple questions >I've been meaning to ask. In the Saturday AM show, the other Freedom >Fighters often grabbed hold of him and rode behind him as he juiced. How >did they ever hold onto him while he was moving that fast? Also, wouldn't >whoever was directly behind Sonic get impaled on his quills when he stopped >suddenly? (Ewww! That could be nasty!) Wouldn't it also hurt when Sally hugs Sonic? Ouch! She'd cut her hands! -Chris > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >"It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog > >Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) > perrottit.mbr@asme.org > >Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester >Polytechnic Institute >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 17:27:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA18978 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 15:40:39 -0400 Received: from ns2.ac.edu ([134.224.1.29]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA18958 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 15:40:31 -0400 Received: from jaguar.ac.edu by ns2.ac.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03960; Tue, 9 Apr 96 15:45:39 EDT Received: by jaguar.ac.edu (wcGATE v4) id 36828W Tue, 9 Apr 1996 19:38:41 GMT From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) Subject: OTHER SONICS CONC. (1/3) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 19:27:01 GMT Message-Id: <96040915384141215@jaguar.ac.edu> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Other Sonics #1-- The Barbarian : Part Two By Robert Haynie Obligatory stuff-- Sonic the Hedgehog, Bunnie Rabbot, etc. TM and copyright 1995 by Sega of America and Archie Comics. They probably reserve all rights. This story is copyright 1995 Robert S. Haynie Jr. This is an exercise in fan fiction, and is not meant to infringe on their rights, but is a purely recreational exercise. It may be duplicated freely, with the restrictions that A) no text is changed, and B) no money is charged. Part the Fourth In a Darker world, the ones called Magi suggest that there is no such thing as coincidence, that the shattered fragments of the beginning of all things strive to rejoin and thus pattern all occurrences and happenings towards that end. Maybe. But whether cosmic forces compel happenstance towards a great destiny, or whether crap just happens, Milos was about to have his lifestyle severely reorganized. One would think that the prospect of such a thing would have appealed to the street-thief. But Tails knew his life, his patterns of destiny, and was comfortable in them-- not from a physical viewpoint, to be sure, but from an unstated spiritual one. He knew his place in the world, as did his four charges, as did the hedgehog and the princess and the swordbunny and the mage and the spy, and especially the two thaumaturges. For those who follow the paths arcane know better than any how fragile a place is, how mutable it can be... and Antos of Mobius and Roboth-Amon of the Eastrealm knew instinctively that changes in places were coming. Antos' hope was to keep such changes from over-running the kingdom and the princess he was bound to protect. He hoped to guide the princess, and through her the king (who was not fond of magick) into paths that would allow the people to weather them with the least amount of suffering and confusion. Roboth-amon, on the other hand, planned to ride the upcoming changes, to mold them and all the world into a new reality-- one where he would be like unto a god-- perhaps a god in fact, immortal, invincible. And the two-tailed fox, knowing squat about these lofty, eldritch, and arcane matters, hoped to con a kitchen-helper out of some spare breadcrusts. Well, we can't all be beings of great insight and occult knowledge. Antos crouched in his chambers, his robe tossed aside, now clad in a simple white loincloth and a chain about his neck, with a single, rather unimpressive blue stone in the setting. More than one had wondered how one as young as he could perform the mage- feats he had, and were they to see that, they would know. After all, there was power in a Chaos Emerald, even those which were not the true green. Add to that a naturally fastidious nature (which helps in organizing the mind), native magickal talent (without which no magery is possible), and a peculiar streak of sheer bloody-mindedness (which is paramount in harnessing energies that no-one in their right mind would even consider dealing with unless they were magi), and you had one surprisingly capable sorcerer. Not an overconfident one, though. Antos knew full well that if it came to a open battle arcane between himself and the Dark wizard, the result would be Dark Wizard:1, Antos:Immolation. It was only great distance and a natural talent for wards that had kept the palace safe, and that could change any time. That, and constant vigilance... So, as he did each evening, Antos meditated, allowing his senses to range out, attuning himself again to wards and charms he had placed to alert him to any eldritch threat. And, just as the afternoon's audience had done, the gleam of power radiated from the axe wielded by the barbarian, now ensconced in one of the guest- chambers. A soft foot-step from behind Antos intruded on his meditations, and he turned his head. The guard-captain stood behind him, frowning. "Few would entair un sorcerer's rooms without ze invitation, Mon Capitaine." The frown was replaced by a smile, and Bunnie sat down next to the fox. "Ah didn't think Ah needed an invite, Antos," she murmured, allowing herself to slip back to the dialect of her southlands childhood. A half-smile crossed Antos' muzzle as the rabbit drew him into a quick, but fierce, embrace. "No, you are not needing one, mon cher... but still, it hardly seems proper for ze Captain of ze Princess' Guard to be entering ze apartments of ze Sorcerair of said Princess, nest pas'? Zhere are always those whould suggest plots et plans." "Let'em. Ah just wanna snuggle a bit." Bunnie sighed, and in a wistful tone, added, "Ah just wish we could be open about us..." "Mais Non, Cher capitaine. There are far to many in ze courts zat play the game of the politics, and any sign of weakness would call ze hunt down upon us. And if either of us were to be discredited, zen zat is but one more opening to ze Princess." Bunnie sighed. "Ah know. Speaking of threats, that hedgehog--" "I am sensing no evil in him, Bunnie. He is-- how is it said?-- too clued to be a threat." Bunnie blinked. "Too what?" she asked, drawing back in confusion. "Too clued. He is not subtle at all, he is not hiding anything--" "Oh, y'all mean too CRUDE. Honestly, Antos, I may love that accent of yours, but sometimes..." Bunnie rose, and left, then, to leave the sorcerer to his work. As she walked out, Antos mumbled, "I am having an accent? Why is everyone telling me that I am having an accent?" Golden Fire. Speed, speed, and more speed, rippling though his corpus until he thinks he will shred from the strain, and still the fire rages. Seven stones, golden fire... As always, Son-Ak jerked awake just before the dream that had haunted him since he was a child began to seem to make sense. His father's brother, tChak, a shaman of considerable wisdom (or so the elders held him to be) claimed that the dreams could not-- would not be explained in the safe lands of his herding tribe. Most people outside the northlands assumed that all the barbarian tribes were filled with berserk warriors. In actuality, the berserkers were few and far between, but they did tend to be the kind that the 'civilized' folk met. Son-Ak was no berserker, but he was a warrior of great skill (As he would readily inform anyone who asked and most who did not) and speed. He was braver than most, he knew, and feared no man, beast, or even demon-spawned sorcery (Well, he would not admit to fearing the latter, at any rate). Perhaps that is why the terror that the recurring dream caused him upset him so. It seemed childish for a warrior of his stature and skill to wake up sweating, shaking, barely repressing a scream of panic at the recurring visions of gold fire-- or perhaps of rage at being awakened just before some half-sensed revelation was to come to pass... Just as he was about to return to a fitful sleep, a scream DID erupt-- but not from him. The barbarian snapped upright as a howl of terror came forth from somewhere else in the palace. Even as he grabbed his battleaxe, and stepped towards the door, a guardsman slammed it open, crying "Hey, you--" "I heard," replied Son-Ak. "Lead me there." From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 18:58:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA01910 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:54:52 -0400 Received: from tsb.weschke.com (foxfire@tsb.weschke.com [204.91.224.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA01905 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:54:49 -0400 Received: (from foxfire@localhost) by tsb.weschke.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id RAA07805; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:55:26 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:55:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Forsyth To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: OTHER SONICS CONC. (3/3) In-Reply-To: <96040915384341217@jaguar.ac.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net How about posting (or re-posting, or even e-mailing) the *second* part? Otherwise, not bad. :-) Chris Forsyth From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 19:07:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA03493 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:24:41 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA03474 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:24:33 -0400 Received: from ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.41]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA00657 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 15:27:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 15:27:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199604092227.PAA00657@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Sonic's Speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 05:01 AM 4/9/96 -0400, you wrote: >On Mon, 8 Apr 1996 SUPERSTH@aol.com wrote: > >> Oh, and I just was wondering.... does anyone own a real Hedgehog? My friend >> does (named it Sonic of course.) > >As far as I know of, no one on the list has a pet hedgehog. > >For those of you interested in this, check out these pages: > http://www.pci.on.ca/~macnamar/velcro.html > http://fohnix.metronet.com/~mcgary/hedgehogs.html > http://www.primenet.com/~khyri/hedgehog/ >I haven't checked these pages recently, so it's possible 1 or more of the >URL's could be outdated. > >If someone on the list does have a 'hog, why not take a picture and scan >it for your page (assuming your provider gives you space for a page). > > >Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! >"Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog >StH JJ1 Son+ Sal++ Tal++++t Nic+i Rot+i Lup+ P++ Dopw $+++ E25 Ay68 >Mail: acme@use.usit.net | WWW: http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~eschulma > > I'll scan a picture in the near future of Sukie. -Chris "If you can't taste the chili dogs, stay out of the kitchen!" From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 19:22:45 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA05950 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:49:58 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA05942 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:49:51 -0400 Received: from ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.41]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA01234 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 15:53:19 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 15:53:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199604092253.PAA01234@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Sonic's Speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 01:35 PM 4/9/96 -0700, you wrote: > > Wouldn't it also hurt when Sally hugs Sonic? Ouch! She'd cut her >hands! > > -Chris As far as I know, I've never hurt myself, hugging Sonic (neither has Uncle Chuck). In fact, It makes me feel better. -Sally >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>"It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog >> >>Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) >> perrottit.mbr@asme.org >> >>Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester >>Polytechnic Institute >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 19:33:52 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA03954 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:33:06 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA03945 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:33:02 -0400 Received: from ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.41]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA00899 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 15:36:29 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 15:36:29 -0700 Message-Id: <199604092236.PAA00899@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Sonic's Speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 11:17 PM 4/8/96 -0700, you wrote: >A previous post said: >>All this talk about Sonic's speed has reminded me of a couple questions >>I've been meaning to ask. In the Saturday AM show, the other Freedom >>Fighters often grabbed hold of him and rode behind him as he juiced. How >>did they ever hold onto him while he was moving that fast? Also, wouldn't >>whoever was directly behind Sonic get impaled on his quills when he stopped >>suddenly? (Ewww! That could be nasty!) > >I assume what they did was (considering that this is cartoon physics) >make Sonic's quills sharp when he wanted or needed them to be. :) If >not, noone would've been able to hitch a ride on Sonic's back, period. >As for the wind generation and other associated forces with the high >velocity, well...Hedgehog doesn't have a nav deflector array. How any- >one stays on is anyone's guess. Rack it up to cartoon physics again. But usually, I carry the rider in my arms, like I do 4 Sally. NEVER once, has anyone even come close to running into my quills! I'm not THAT careless! Besides, I always make sure that whoever's hitched on me, is always safe or doesn't let go. -Sonic > >_____________________________________________________________________ >Shawn Wolski, N5UNA >n5una@onr.com > From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 19:54:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA04465 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:42:07 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA04456 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:42:01 -0400 Received: from ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.41]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA01118 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 15:45:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 15:45:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199604092245.PAA01118@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Sonic's Speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 10:41 PM 4/8/96 -0400, you wrote: >At 09:05 PM 4/8/96 -0400, you wrote: >>All this talk about Sonic's speed has reminded me of a couple questions >>I've been meaning to ask. In the Saturday AM show, the other Freedom >>Fighters often grabbed hold of him and rode behind him as he juiced. How >>did they ever hold onto him while he was moving that fast? Also, wouldn't >>whoever was directly behind Sonic get impaled on his quills when he stopped >>suddenly? (Ewww! That could be nasty!) > >Well, I suppose if you look at it from the "Cartoon Physics" point of view, >none of this matters. There was a good example of this in that "The Real >Ghostbusters" cartoon series almost 10 years ago. They were all transported >to a cartoon world, and Egon, logical as ever, couldn't adjust. "Egon! Help >me move this lake!" "You cannot pick up a lake and move it! It's illogical!" >It was pretty weird, but it was funny. > >But, if you look at it from the real world physics point of view, yeah. When >Sonic stops, he would have quite a mess to peel off of his back. Holding >onto something that's going faster than mach 1 (Mach 1 is the speed of >sound) wouldn't be possible (Obviously). > >I have to go in for the cartoon explanation. The force of friction from the >air alone would be enormous. Unless there were some kind of genetic mutation >that protected Sonic from affects like that. This hasn't really been >explained, yet. > >A note to all of you trying to figure out the Physics of it: Using The U.S. >system of measurements rarely works. Most of the laws of physics were >defined using the metric system. Use meters, not miles. > >-Matt > > Hmmm... Good point, Matt. But I think Sonic's quills help break down wind resistance. -Chris Again..... From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 20:05:03 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA11577 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 19:53:29 -0400 Received: from ns2.ac.edu ([134.224.1.29]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA11568 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 19:53:24 -0400 Received: from jaguar.ac.edu by ns2.ac.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05427; Tue, 9 Apr 96 19:58:39 EDT Received: by jaguar.ac.edu (wcGATE v4) id 36152W Tue, 9 Apr 1996 23:52:12 GMT From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) Subject: Did the first part of the last chapter get through? Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 23:17:27 GMT Message-Id: <96040919521241352@jaguar.ac.edu> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net I ask because I only got back 2/3 and 3/3 on the bounceback... Tell me if I need to resend 1/3. a rather perplexed rob From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 20:19:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA12179 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 20:07:48 -0400 Received: from iwaynet.net ([198.30.29.7]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA12162 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 20:07:44 -0400 Received: from port200.iwaynet.net by iwaynet.net (8.7.1/SMI-4.1) id UAA02282; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 20:05:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 20:05:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199604100005.UAA02282@iwaynet.net> X-Sender: eggleton@iwaynet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: "Knuck's/Kulock" Subject: Re: Sonic's Speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 03:53 PM 4/9/96 -0700, you wrote: >At 01:35 PM 4/9/96 -0700, you wrote: > >> >> Wouldn't it also hurt when Sally hugs Sonic? Ouch! She'd cut her >>hands! >> >> -Chris > > As far as I know, I've never hurt myself, hugging Sonic (neither has >Uncle Chuck). In fact, It makes me feel better. > > -Sally Heh heh, yeah right... She flung herself on Sonic's back to hug him once after a dangerous FF mission.. Was in the intensive care ward for weeks.. :) -Knuck's the Echidna (Kulock:What about me?!?!) >>> >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>"It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog >>> >>>Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) >>> perrottit.mbr@asme.org >>> >>>Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester >>>Polytechnic Institute >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> >> > > > From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 20:34:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA12396 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 20:11:57 -0400 Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com (emout04.mail.aol.com [198.81.10.12]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA12385 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 20:11:54 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA23372 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 20:11:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 20:11:23 -0400 Message-ID: <960409201122_466121961@emout04.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic's Speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Really? Huh. Man, someone told me to get a Hedgehog for a pet, and when I said no they asked why. I think I know why no one has one... they cost like $80 bucks!!! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 20:54:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA12661 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 20:18:51 -0400 Received: from tsb.weschke.com (foxfire@tsb.weschke.com [204.91.224.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA12656 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 20:18:48 -0400 Received: (from foxfire@localhost) by tsb.weschke.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id UAA12959; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 20:19:14 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 20:19:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Forsyth To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: OTHER SONICS CONC. (3/3) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Tue, 9 Apr 1996, Chris Forsyth wrote: > How about posting (or re-posting, or even e-mailing) the *second* part? > Otherwise, not bad. :-) > Chris Forsyth > > Ooops...just got it. Blasted net lag. :-( Chris Forsyth From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 21:06:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA11890 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 20:01:50 -0400 Received: from iwaynet.net ([198.30.29.7]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA11884 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 20:01:46 -0400 Received: from port200.iwaynet.net by iwaynet.net (8.7.1/SMI-4.1) id TAA01918; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 19:59:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 19:59:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199604092359.TAA01918@iwaynet.net> X-Sender: eggleton@iwaynet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: "Knuck's/Kulock" Subject: Re: Sonic's Speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 10:41 PM 4/8/96 -0400, you wrote: >At 09:05 PM 4/8/96 -0400, you wrote: >>All this talk about Sonic's speed has reminded me of a couple questions >>I've been meaning to ask. In the Saturday AM show, the other Freedom >>Fighters often grabbed hold of him and rode behind him as he juiced. How >>did they ever hold onto him while he was moving that fast? Also, wouldn't >>whoever was directly behind Sonic get impaled on his quills when he stopped >>suddenly? (Ewww! That could be nasty!) > >Well, I suppose if you look at it from the "Cartoon Physics" point of view, >none of this matters. There was a good example of this in that "The Real >Ghostbusters" cartoon series almost 10 years ago. They were all transported >to a cartoon world, and Egon, logical as ever, couldn't adjust. "Egon! Help >me move this lake!" "You cannot pick up a lake and move it! It's illogical!" >It was pretty weird, but it was funny. > >But, if you look at it from the real world physics point of view, yeah. When >Sonic stops, he would have quite a mess to peel off of his back. Holding >onto something that's going faster than mach 1 (Mach 1 is the speed of >sound) wouldn't be possible (Obviously). > >I have to go in for the cartoon explanation. The force of friction from the >air alone would be enormous. Unless there were some kind of genetic mutation >that protected Sonic from affects like that. This hasn't really been >explained, yet. > > >-Matt > > Hm.. I am probably incorrect in this but if Sonic were running at a high velocity as such, couldn't one or two FF hold on in the 'air pocket' is formed? I have heard of a similar thing in racing...a car tags alng behind another, using the whole the first car punches in the air to help itself along.. Just an idea.. -Knuck's/Kulock the Echidna/Moogle ('Spew!!') From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 22:07:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA17257 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 21:17:21 -0400 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA17246 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 21:17:18 -0400 Received: from terra.nlnet.nf.ca (terra.nlnet.nf.ca [192.75.13.101]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA20997 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 22:47:14 -0230 (NDT) Received: from n105h083.nlnet.nf.ca by terra.nlnet.nf.ca; (5.65/1.1.8.2/26Jan95-0807PM) id AA25595; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 22:47:08 -0230 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 22:47:08 -0230 Message-Id: <9604100117.AA25595@terra.nlnet.nf.ca> X-Sender: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (The Necromancer) Subject: Re: Did the first part of the last chapter get through? Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > I ask because I only got back 2/3 and 3/3 on the bounceback... Tell >me if I need to resend 1/3. > > a rather perplexed rob I got all three chapters. ------------------------ The Necromancer lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca Pinky: Do you think you can fool them into thinking you're Napoleon? Brain: It will be a difficult ruse. They are expecting a tiny little megalomaniac who's bent on ruling the world. Instead they have me. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 22:33:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA20645 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 21:55:18 -0400 Received: from tsb.weschke.com (foxfire@tsb.weschke.com [204.91.224.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA20640 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 21:55:16 -0400 Received: (from foxfire@localhost) by tsb.weschke.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id VAA14599; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 21:55:43 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 21:55:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Forsyth To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic's Speed In-Reply-To: <199604092359.TAA01918@iwaynet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Tue, 9 Apr 1996, Knuck's/Kulock wrote: > > Hm.. I am probably incorrect in this but if Sonic were running at a high > velocity as such, couldn't one or two FF hold on in the 'air pocket' is formed? > I have heard of a similar thing in racing...a car tags alng behind another, > using the whole the first car punches in the air to help itself along.. > It's called 'drafting' :-) Chris Forsyth From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 22:35:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA20771 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 21:59:29 -0400 Received: from Sierra.onr.com (sierra.onr.com [199.1.90.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA20765 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 21:59:27 -0400 Received: from onramp3-14.onr.com (onramp3-14.onr.com [199.1.90.66]) by Sierra.onr.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id UAA27507 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 20:55:28 -0500 Message-ID: <316B323B.4B14@onr.com> Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 20:59:55 -0700 From: Shawn Wolski X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sonic Mailing List Subject: Email Add (General Note) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Just a little notification: To all who've send email to my mail.utexas.edu address, I'm sorry for not responding to the messages sooner. I don't check that address often, since I moved my operations to Onramp. Please delete any and all references to my mail. utexas.edu address, and use the add in my sig. TNX. ___________________________________________________________ Shawn Wolski, N5UNA n5una@onr.com From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 23:26:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA21834 for sonic-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 22:27:37 -0400 Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA21829 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 22:27:29 -0400 Received: from pm1-ip79.vivanet.com by vivanet.vivanet.com id aa08900; 9 Apr 96 22:27 EDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960410022520.0068e0ec@mail.vivanet.com> X-Sender: mpenna@mail.vivanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 22:25:20 -0400 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: Re: Sonic's Speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Hm.. I am probably incorrect in this but if Sonic were running at a high >velocity as such, couldn't one or two FF hold on in the 'air pocket' is formed? >I have heard of a similar thing in racing...a car tags alng behind another, >using the whole the first car punches in the air to help itself along.. I have heard of this. They would be shielded from the friction of the air, so Sonic would bear the brunt of it. The problem of stopping on a dime would still be a factor. Unless Sonic slowed down gradually, *SPLAT!* (Pretty gross, I admit.) Sonic running by at top speed and grabbing somebody's arm wouldn't be a good idea, either. I think we can picture the results. Most unpleasant. Running as fast as he does is simply not possible on Earth. Maybe the Mobian atmosphere has certain weird properties to it that shields him somehow? Or even the buildup of static electricity? Unique poperties of the magnetic or gravitational fields? Light waves from the Mobian sun? Mystical energies? Fan-fic authors, you could have a field day with this one! I'm just finishing up my first year of college physics, so I'm probably not the best one to be commenting on this from that standpoint. Do we have any physicists on the list who can come up with something? -Matt From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 01:58:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA15482 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 01:34:47 -0400 Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA15477 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 01:34:44 -0400 Received: from miles--world (spr-ma1-17.ix.netcom.com [205.184.172.49]) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA01526 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 22:33:15 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4b13.32.19960410053900.0066a5e4@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: danramos@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b13 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 01:39:00 -0400 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Ramos Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net heheh...so finally, we get to... an ON-TOPIC POST!! More Sonic merchandise found. ------------------------------------------------------------- /// BOF ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// ------------------------------------------------------------- FREE SONIC WATCH OFFER Send 25 empty specially marked INSTANT QUAKER OATMEAL packets Plus $1.00 shipping and handling. THE QUAKER OATS COMPANY PO BOX 049003 CHICAGO IL 60604-9003 USA ------------------------------------------------------------- 16 SONIC COLLECTOR'S CAPS (POG-style caps) "There are 4 FREE Sonic the Hedghog Collectors Caps in each box of Cookie-Crisp and 16 Caps in all. With your favorite Sega and Cookie-Crisp characters on these caps, you'll want every one!" RALSTON FOODS, INC. PO BOX 618 ST.LOUIS, MISSOURI 63188-0618 USA ------------------------------------------------------------- /// EOF ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 02:12:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA15660 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 01:37:22 -0400 Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA15655 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 01:37:20 -0400 Received: from miles--world (spr-ma1-17.ix.netcom.com [205.184.172.49]) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA01604 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 22:35:50 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4b13.32.19960410054135.00678b64@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: danramos@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b13 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 01:41:35 -0400 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Ramos Subject: New ZtuffS! Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net heheh...so finally, we get to... an ON-TOPIC POST!! More Sonic merchandise found. ------------------------------------------------------------- /// BOF ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// ------------------------------------------------------------- FREE SONIC WATCH OFFER Send 25 empty specially marked INSTANT QUAKER OATMEAL packets Plus $1.00 shipping and handling. THE QUAKER OATS COMPANY PO BOX 049003 CHICAGO IL 60604-9003 USA ------------------------------------------------------------- 16 SONIC COLLECTOR'S CAPS (POG-style caps) "There are 4 FREE Sonic the Hedghog Collectors Caps in each box of Cookie-Crisp and 16 Caps in all. With your favorite Sega and Cookie-Crisp characters on these caps, you'll want every one!" RALSTON FOODS, INC. PO BOX 618 ST.LOUIS, MISSOURI 63188-0618 USA ------------------------------------------------------------- /// EOF ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 04:29:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id EAA25790 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 04:11:10 -0400 Received: from bigboote.WPI.EDU (root@bigboote.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id EAA25784 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 04:11:08 -0400 Received: from wpi.WPI.EDU (tedp@wpi.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.6]) by bigboote.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA22675; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 04:10:51 -0400 From: Theodore Patri Perrotti Received: (from tedp@localhost) by wpi.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.8.Alpha.1) id EAA05411; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 04:10:50 -0400 Message-Id: <199604100810.EAA05411@wpi.WPI.EDU> Subject: Time Change on USA Network To: sonic@bort.mv.net (sonic) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 04:10:50 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tedp@WPI.EDU (Theodore Patri Perrotti) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net In Worcester, Massachusetts, the Sat AM Sonic has been moved to 9:30 AM. Just thought you'd like to know, since the show has probably been moved in other locales as well. Worcester is served by Greater Media Cable. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) perrottit.mbr@asme.org Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester Polytechnic Institute ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 11:56:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA22984 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 11:33:45 -0400 Received: from lin01.global.co.za (lin01.global.co.za [196.3.164.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA02426 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:07:30 -0400 Received: from anx_24.global.co.za (anx_24.global.co.za [196.3.164.74]) by lin01.global.co.za (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA05074 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 00:05:12 -0200 (GMT) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 00:05:12 -0200 (GMT) Message-Id: <199604100205.AAA05074@lin01.global.co.za> X-Sender: ablater@mail.global.co.za X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: ablater@lin01.global.co.za (ablater) Subject: Acceleration/Deacceleration/ Reality meets 'toon physics. Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Okay, first off, assuming that whowever is behind Sonic was shielded from wind, they could move up to an speed, and even above light-speed (If you believe that's possible without becoming energy and thus.. dying). The only force pushing against the hog-rider would be acceleration, so for an example let's assume the following scenario. Sonic accelerates to mach 1 in 10 seconds. Mach 1 = 300M.s. (Or about 900-1000 Ft/s) t = 10 (10 seconds) a = v-u/t a = 300/t a = 30m.s. -2 {excuse my physics..} Now gravity is only 10m.s...(let's assume Sally was clambering to his quills) This means that Sally's weight, would be magnified to three times what it normally is, and would be pulling in a direction opposite of Sonic's. To hold on Sally, would need to be able to hold up her own weight.. three times over. Imagine that.. or to put it practically, imagine hanging off a building with two people of your weight dangling from your legs! Okay, now let's assume a Super Sonic stop.. mach 1 to zero in 3 seconds. a = v-u/t a = -300/3 a = -100m.s -2 deacceleration. Sally would be squeezed with ten times her own weight up against Sonic.(Now that's a lethal hug!) In reality this would not be happy.. she'd pass out for sure. [Again, try to imagine nine people your weight - sitting one on another on top of you!] Well that leaves it all up to magic, mobian enviroment (Maybe their air is very thin? Or their gravity is 30m/s.?) and imagination (Toon physics). Cheer_Z *------------------------------------------------------*------------* | *--------------------------------------------------* | DEPRESSION | | | __ ___ . __ ---_--- ---- ---\ | | MODE 6?7 | | | / \ | \ | / \ | / | | | *------------* | | |----| |___| | |____| | ---- -----\ | | 0010010101 | | | | | | | | | | | \ | | | | 0110100101 | | | | | |___/ \____ | | | \___ | | | | 2 | | *--------------------------------------------------* *------------* | "Life is a .Mod, four channels, but reality has only two speakers.| | If it is in this life that we must prove ourselves, | | then I'm a cacophony of static.. luke warm and chaotic." - END | *-------------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 12:01:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA23334 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 11:41:42 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.4.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA23329 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 11:41:38 -0400 Received: from sun-5.cae.wisc.edu (sun-5.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.69.181]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with ESMTP id KAA12381 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 10:41:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from firmiss@localhost) by sun-5.cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) id KAA13580; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 10:41:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 10:41:28 -0500 (CDT) From: James Firmiss To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Time Change on USA Network In-Reply-To: <199604100810.EAA05411@wpi.WPI.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Wed, 10 Apr 1996, Theodore Patri Perrotti wrote: > In Worcester, Massachusetts, the Sat AM Sonic has been moved to 9:30 AM. > Just thought you'd like to know, since the show has probably been moved in > other locales as well. Worcester is served by Greater Media Cable. What about the 'dreaded' daily Sonic Series. I've just started getting used to them and all of a sudden I see Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in that time slot. -- James Firmiss firmiss@cae.wisc.edu @[=g3,8d]\&fbb=-q]/hk%fg" From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 12:31:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA23209 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 11:39:50 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net (acme@use.usit.net [199.1.48.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA23201 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 11:39:48 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA26264; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 11:39:44 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 11:39:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) Team OS/2" To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: OTHER SONICS CONC. (3/3) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Rebel Alliance of Mobius MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Tue, 9 Apr 1996, Chris Forsyth wrote: > How about posting (or re-posting, or even e-mailing) the *second* part? > Otherwise, not bad. :-) No need to repost. Anyone who didn't receive any part can get the list archive from majordomo until the end of the month, and from the Web site starting next month. As a reminder, stories should not be posted to the list. You should e-mail stories to bookshire@rat.org. You may announce your story to the list. I also would not object to a brief summary in your new story announcement, up to about 1.5-2K long. Please mark any summary to give readers a chance to not know anything about the story until actually reading it. Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog StH JJ1 Son+ Sal++ Tal++++t Nic+i Rot+i Lup+ P++ Dopw $+++ E25 Ay68 Mail: acme@use.usit.net | WWW: http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~eschulma From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 12:32:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA26613 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:13:17 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net (acme@use.usit.net [199.1.48.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA26608 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:13:14 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA01237; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:13:12 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:13:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) Team OS/2" To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <1.5.4b13.32.19960410053900.0066a5e4@popd.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: Organization: Rebel Alliance of Mobius MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Wed, 10 Apr 1996, Dan Ramos wrote: > FREE SONIC WATCH OFFER > > Send 25 empty specially marked INSTANT QUAKER OATMEAL packets > Plus $1.00 shipping and handling. some of you may recall the Animaniacs stopwatch offer in conjunction with Life cereal. (It expired long ago, so don't ask about it now.) Someone posted to alt.tv.animaniacs that he worked in a college camups cafeteria where they go through many boxes of Life. He offered to give away proofs of purchase to the first xx (forgot the number) a.t.a'ers who asked for them. Now, is anyone on the Sonic list a cafeteria worker (or good friends with one) and willing to help out similarly? If so, please mail me directly (not on the list). I'll compile the volunteer list and post it. > 16 SONIC COLLECTOR'S CAPS (POG-style caps) I've been struggling to get all 16. But I keep getting the same ones, and that's when I can even find the specially marked boxes in my local supermarket. Doh! Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog StH JJ1 Son+ Sal++ Tal++++t Nic+i Rot+i Lup+ P++ Dopw $+++ E25 Ay68 Mail: acme@use.usit.net | WWW: http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~eschulma From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 12:50:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA27329 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:33:50 -0400 Received: from ns2.ac.edu ([134.224.1.29]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA27324 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:33:47 -0400 Received: from jaguar.ac.edu by ns2.ac.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13464; Wed, 10 Apr 96 12:39:02 EDT Received: by jaguar.ac.edu (wcGATE v4) id 33032W Wed, 10 Apr 1996 16:32:22 GMT From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) Subject: Did the first part of the last chapter get through? Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 16:12:05 GMT Message-Id: <96041012322241775@jaguar.ac.edu> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net -> From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) -> To: bort.mv.net!sonic -> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 23:17:27 GMT -> Subject: Did the first part of the last chapter get through? -> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA -> -> I ask because I only got back 2/3 and 3/3 on the bounceback... Tell -> me if I need to resend 1/3. -> -> a rather perplexed rob Never mind. It just did. All are out there. Enjoy. rob From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 13:01:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA27404 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:35:26 -0400 Received: from ns2.ac.edu ([134.224.1.29]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA27399 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:35:23 -0400 Received: from jaguar.ac.edu by ns2.ac.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13468; Wed, 10 Apr 96 12:39:04 EDT Received: by jaguar.ac.edu (wcGATE v4) id 33033W Wed, 10 Apr 1996 16:32:23 GMT From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) Subject: Other Sonics Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 16:16:19 GMT Message-Id: <96041012322341776@jaguar.ac.edu> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net -> From: Theodore Patri Perrotti -> To: jaguar.ac.edu!rhaynie -> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 03:16:34 -0400 (EDT) -> Subject: Other Sonics -> -> I got all three parts just fine, and they were really cool! "Other -> Sonics: The Barbarian" has found a permanent place in my Sonic fanfic -> collection. Keep up the good work! -> -> --------------------------------------------------------------------- -> ------- "It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog -> -> Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) -> perrottit.mbr@asme.org -> -> Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester -> Polytechnic Institute -> --------------------------------------------------------------------- -> ------- Well, Thank You! Good to know that that's one vote for me and my sense of writing. (Sense of writing? What does THAT mean?) rob From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 14:01:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA03117 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:43:51 -0400 Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA03112 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:43:48 -0400 Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA09943; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:43:35 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id NAA24078; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:43:37 -0400 Message-Id: <199604101743.NAA24078@edmund> Subject: Re: Time Change on USA Network To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:43:36 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "James Firmiss" at Apr 10, 96 10:41:28 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Re: shifting of StH and AoStH on USA: When all else fails, CYLL (consult your local listings). Theoretically, AoStH is now showing at 8:00 am EDT. I say "theoretically" because that's when my workday starts. ================================================================ || ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen || |\__-- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu || | / __ _ ||Sonic: "Whoa, you're not going to || //\ / \ /__ || use the L-word, are you?" || | o| 0|__ --_ ||Tails: "Well...." || \\____-- __ \ ___ - ||Sonic: "Then I will...I love you, || (@@ __/ / /_ || little bro." || -_____--- --_ ||AoStH: "Tails' New Home" ================================================================ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 14:43:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA06312 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:10:33 -0400 Received: from inet.uni-c.dk (inet.uni-c.dk [130.228.6.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA06306 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:10:29 -0400 Received: from arh160.ppp.uni-c.dk (arh160.ppp.uni-c.dk [130.228.13.160]) by inet.uni-c.dk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA02507 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:07:02 +0200 Received: by arh160.ppp.uni-c.dk with Microsoft Mail id <01BB2719.BF08A0E0@arh160.ppp.uni-c.dk>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:10:21 +-200 Message-ID: <01BB2719.BF08A0E0@arh160.ppp.uni-c.dk> From: Michael Emil Hansen To: "'sonic@bort.mv.net'" Subject: RE: Did the first part of the last chapter get through? Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 19:56:11 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BB2719.C0FEA480" Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB2719.C0FEA480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---------- From: Robert Haynie[SMTP:rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu] Sent: 10, april 1996 01.17 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Did the first part of the last chapter get through? I ask because I only got back 2/3 and 3/3 on the bounceback... Tell me if I need to resend 1/3. a rather perplexed rob Wud you alow me to upload your storry to my homepage. 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SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 20:00:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA01738 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 19:36:24 -0400 Received: from emout06.mail.aol.com (emout06.mail.aol.com [198.81.10.43]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA01728 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 19:36:21 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA12070 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 19:35:50 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 19:35:50 -0400 Message-ID: <960410193548_188652224@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Problem Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net The soncycle.gif WON'T DOWNLOAD OR EVEN APPEAR!!! Is it corrupt or something? From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 20:08:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA00381 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 19:04:39 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id TAA00327 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 19:03:38 -0400 Received: from ppp13.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp13.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.43]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA21730 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 16:06:42 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 16:06:42 -0700 Message-Id: <199604102306.QAA21730@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Sonic ABC continues from doomsday Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net HA ha ha ha! Just kidding! I wish (really)! But now that I have your attention, I was watching a (rerun) recording of "Sonic's Nightmare." At the end, Sally and Sonic were back to back, OUCH! Wouldn't that hurt Sally?! Oh, well I started it, I'll finish it. Sonic says what a mondo beautiful thing he's ever seen, Sally blushes, you make my heart pound, my mouth watter. Yess, there's nothing like a chili dog! "Oh, brother" is all Sally had to say. -Chris Flinn From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 20:13:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA28437 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:47:17 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA28425 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:47:09 -0400 Received: from ppp4.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp4.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.34]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA21439 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:50:02 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:50:02 -0700 Message-Id: <199604102250.PAA21439@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Time Change on USA Network Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 10:41 AM 4/10/96 -0500, you wrote: > >On Wed, 10 Apr 1996, Theodore Patri Perrotti wrote: > >> In Worcester, Massachusetts, the Sat AM Sonic has been moved to 9:30 AM. >> Just thought you'd like to know, since the show has probably been moved in >> other locales as well. Worcester is served by Greater Media Cable. > >What about the 'dreaded' daily Sonic Series. I've just started getting >used to them and all of a sudden I see Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in that >time slot. For best results, I suggest checking your local TV Guide. -Chris Flinn > >-- > James Firmiss firmiss@cae.wisc.edu > >@[=g3,8d]\&fbb=-q]/hk%fg" > > From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 20:22:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA27523 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:41:36 -0400 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA27518 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:41:33 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with ESMTP id SAA04590 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:41:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ppp4.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp4.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.34]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA21220 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:42:44 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:42:44 -0700 Message-Id: <199604102242.PAA21220@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Time Change on USA Network Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 04:10 AM 4/10/96 -0400, you wrote: >In Worcester, Massachusetts, the Sat AM Sonic has been moved to 9:30 AM. >Just thought you'd like to know, since the show has probably been moved in >other locales as well. Worcester is served by Greater Media Cable. I noticed this too, in California. Sonic is on the USA Action Extreme Team, here. Sonic is also on Sunday here, not Sat. -Chris Flinn > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >"It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog > >Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) > perrottit.mbr@asme.org > >Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester >Polytechnic Institute >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 20:23:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA00399 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 19:04:58 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id TAA00394 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 19:04:55 -0400 Received: from ppp13.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp13.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.43]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA21745 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 16:07:57 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 16:07:57 -0700 Message-Id: <199604102307.QAA21745@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Sonic's Speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 08:05 PM 4/9/96 -0400, you wrote: >At 03:53 PM 4/9/96 -0700, you wrote: >>At 01:35 PM 4/9/96 -0700, you wrote: >> >>> >>> Wouldn't it also hurt when Sally hugs Sonic? Ouch! She'd cut her >>>hands! >>> >>> -Chris >> >> As far as I know, I've never hurt myself, hugging Sonic (neither has >>Uncle Chuck). In fact, It makes me feel better. >> >> -Sally >Heh heh, yeah right... >She flung herself on Sonic's back to hug him once after a dangerous FF mission.. >Was in the intensive care ward for weeks.. :) She more like puts her hands on his shoulders. > >-Knuck's the Echidna (Kulock:What about me?!?!) >>>> >>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>"It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog >>>> >>>>Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) >>>> perrottit.mbr@asme.org >>>> >>>>Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester >>>>Polytechnic Institute >>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 20:43:59 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA05145 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:16:02 -0400 Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA05140 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:16:00 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA06304 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:15:29 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:15:29 -0400 Message-ID: <960410201529_188682325@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Problem Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net And I also wanted to know the answer to the question I have been asking a lot.... does ANYONE remember the story released years ago in which "Sonic" wasn't the blue hedgehog's real name.... if so, what was it?! "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" -Sonic SUPER STH@aol.com From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 20:47:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA29013 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:52:52 -0400 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA29008 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:52:50 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with ESMTP id SAA06375 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ppp4.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp4.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.34]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA21526 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:54:57 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:54:57 -0700 Message-Id: <199604102254.PAA21526@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: your mail Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 12:13 PM 4/10/96 -0400, you wrote: >On Wed, 10 Apr 1996, Dan Ramos wrote: > >> FREE SONIC WATCH OFFER >> >> Send 25 empty specially marked INSTANT QUAKER OATMEAL packets >> Plus $1.00 shipping and handling. > >some of you may recall the Animaniacs stopwatch offer in conjunction with >Life cereal. (It expired long ago, so don't ask about it now.) Someone >posted to alt.tv.animaniacs that he worked in a college camups cafeteria >where they go through many boxes of Life. He offered to give away proofs >of purchase to the first xx (forgot the number) a.t.a'ers who asked for them. > >Now, is anyone on the Sonic list a cafeteria worker (or good friends with >one) and willing to help out similarly? If so, please mail me directly >(not on the list). I'll compile the volunteer list and post it. > >> 16 SONIC COLLECTOR'S CAPS (POG-style caps) > >I've been struggling to get all 16. But I keep getting the same ones, >and that's when I can even find the specially marked boxes in my local >supermarket. Doh! I think I have all but 2. I don't like the cookie crisp ones, I just keep all the related Sonic ones. -Chris > > >Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! >"Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog >StH JJ1 Son+ Sal++ Tal++++t Nic+i Rot+i Lup+ P++ Dopw $+++ E25 Ay68 >Mail: acme@use.usit.net | WWW: http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~eschulma > > From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 21:00:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA06214 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:44:23 -0400 Received: from ns2.ac.edu ([134.224.1.29]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA06209 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:44:20 -0400 Received: from jaguar.ac.edu by ns2.ac.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16046; Wed, 10 Apr 96 20:49:35 EDT Received: by jaguar.ac.edu (wcGATE v4) id 33669W Thu, 11 Apr 1996 00:43:02 GMT From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) Subject: Re: OTHER SONICS CONC. (3/3) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:54:33 GMT Message-Id: <96041020430242007@jaguar.ac.edu> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net -> From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) Team OS/2" -> To: bort.mv.net!sonic -> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 11:39:42 -0400 (EDT) -> Subject: Re: OTHER SONICS CONC. (3/3) -> Organization: Rebel Alliance of Mobius -> -> On Tue, 9 Apr 1996, Chris Forsyth wrote: -> -> > How about posting (or re-posting, or even e-mailing) the *secon -> > Otherwise, not bad. :-) -> -> No need to repost. Anyone who didn't receive any part can get the -> list archive from majordomo until the end of the month, and from the -> Web site starting next month. -> -> As a reminder, stories should not be posted to the list. You should -> e-mail stories to bookshire@rat.org. You may announce your story to -> the list. I also would not object to a brief summary in your new -> story announcement, up to about 1.5-2K long. Please mark any -> summary to give readers a chance to not know anything about the -> story until actually reading it. -> -> -> Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! -> "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog -> StH JJ1 Son+ Sal++ Tal++++t Nic+i Rot+i Lup+ P++ Dopw $+++ E25 Ay68 -> Mail: acme@use.usit.net | WWW: http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~eschulma -> That's new. Stories not posted to the list, that is. Ever since I've been here, (which is pretty much as long as it's been running, you know) the list has seen a lot of fanfic. Part one was posted to the list at first, and was followed up here by simple logic. When did the no story on the list policy begin (I never saw that announcement)? For I fear that is news to me. (Then agin, I like news.) rob From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 21:30:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA08010 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:58:06 -0400 Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com (emout04.mail.aol.com [198.81.10.12]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA08004 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:58:03 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA13469 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:57:32 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:57:32 -0400 Message-ID: <960410205724_510673620@emout04.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: your mail Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Chris, when you said that you kept all except the Cookie Crisp ones, I do too. They just... you know.... $uck. SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 21:55:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA09757 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 21:17:42 -0400 Received: from hops.cs.jhu.edu (hops.cs.jhu.edu [128.220.13.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA09750 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 21:17:38 -0400 Received: (from heretic@localhost) by hops.cs.jhu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA23380; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 21:17:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 21:17:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Harvey Torrance Griffin To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Acceleration/Deacceleration/ Reality meets 'toon physics. In-Reply-To: <199604100205.AAA05074@lin01.global.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Wed, 10 Apr 1996, ablater wrote: Two words: Subspace Field (Remember Star Trek?) HTG (Relurking....) From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 22:49:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA12084 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 21:55:11 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA11600 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 21:48:18 -0400 Received: from ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.41]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA24206 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:51:16 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:51:16 -0700 Message-Id: <199604110151.SAA24206@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Problem Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 07:35 PM 4/10/96 -0400, you wrote: >The soncycle.gif WON'T DOWNLOAD OR EVEN APPEAR!!! Is it corrupt or something? > Where is this located? -Chris From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 23:09:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA14288 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:33:00 -0400 Received: from bigboote.WPI.EDU (root@bigboote.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id WAA14283 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:32:58 -0400 Received: from wpi.WPI.EDU (tedp@wpi.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.6]) by bigboote.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA25842; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:32:47 -0400 From: Theodore Patri Perrotti Received: (from tedp@localhost) by wpi.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.8.Alpha.1) id WAA23289; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:32:45 -0400 Message-Id: <199604110232.WAA23289@wpi.WPI.EDU> Subject: Re: Time Change on USA Network To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:32:45 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tedp@wpi.edu (Theodore Patri Perrotti) In-Reply-To: <199604102242.PAA21220@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> from "Dan" at Apr 10, 96 03:42:44 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > > At 04:10 AM 4/10/96 -0400, you wrote: > >In Worcester, Massachusetts, the Sat AM Sonic has been moved to 9:30 AM. > >Just thought you'd like to know, since the show has probably been moved in > >other locales as well. Worcester is served by Greater Media Cable. > > I noticed this too, in California. Sonic is on the USA Action > Extreme Team, here. Sonic is also on Sunday here, not Sat. > It's on Sunday here in Worcester, too (9:30am). "Sat AM Sonic" is just another name used on this list to refer to the show "Sonic the Hedgehog" (it was originally on Saturday mornings on ABC) as opposed to "The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog" (which is often called "the weekday Sonic" on the list). Sometimes "Sonic the Hedgehog" is also referred to as "ABC Sonic". Sorry for the confusion. It's just a bit of Sonic mailing list lingo. > -Chris Flinn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) perrottit.mbr@asme.org Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester Polytechnic Institute ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 23:19:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA14631 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:40:25 -0400 Received: from bigboote.WPI.EDU (root@bigboote.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id WAA14626 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:40:21 -0400 Received: from wpi.WPI.EDU (tedp@wpi.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.6]) by bigboote.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA27091; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:40:16 -0400 From: Theodore Patri Perrotti Received: (from tedp@localhost) by wpi.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.8.Alpha.1) id WAA24141; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:40:14 -0400 Message-Id: <199604110240.WAA24141@wpi.WPI.EDU> Subject: Re: Sonic's Speed To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:40:13 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tedp@WPI.EDU (Theodore Patri Perrotti) In-Reply-To: <199604102307.QAA21745@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> from "Dan" at Apr 10, 96 04:07:57 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > > At 08:05 PM 4/9/96 -0400, you wrote: > >At 03:53 PM 4/9/96 -0700, you wrote: > >>At 01:35 PM 4/9/96 -0700, you wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Wouldn't it also hurt when Sally hugs Sonic? Ouch! She'd cut her > >>>hands! > >>> > >>> -Chris > >> > >> As far as I know, I've never hurt myself, hugging Sonic (neither has > >>Uncle Chuck). In fact, It makes me feel better. > >> > >> -Sally > >Heh heh, yeah right... > >She flung herself on Sonic's back to hug him once after a dangerous FF > mission.. > >Was in the intensive care ward for weeks.. :) > > She more like puts her hands on his shoulders. > > > >-Knuck's the Echidna (Kulock:What about me?!?!) > >>>> > >>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>"It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog > >>>> > >>>>Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) > >>>> perrottit.mbr@asme.org > >>>> > >>>>Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester > >>>>Polytechnic Institute > >>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > Just so you know, I didn't write any of the above message. Someone must have just replied to one of my messages and then forgotten to edit out my .sig at the end. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) perrottit.mbr@asme.org Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester Polytechnic Institute ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 11 00:25:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA20144 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 23:55:15 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA19977 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 23:52:51 -0400 Received: from ppp8.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp8.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.38]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA26107 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:56:26 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:56:26 -0700 Message-Id: <199604110356.UAA26107@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Problem Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net And I also wanted to know the answer to the question I have been asking a lot.... does ANYONE remember the story released years ago in which "Sonic" wasn't the blue hedgehog's real name.... if so, what was it?! "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" -Sonic SUPER STH@aol.com From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 11 00:35:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA20024 for sonic-ll; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 23:53:18 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA19975 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 23:52:51 -0400 Received: from ppp8.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp8.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.38]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA26104 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:56:23 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:56:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199604110356.UAA26104@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Problem Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 08:15 PM 4/10/96 -0400, you wrote: >And I also wanted to know the answer to the question I have been asking a >lot.... does ANYONE remember the story released years ago in which "Sonic" >wasn't the blue hedgehog's real name.... if so, what was it?! > >"Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" -Sonic > >SUPER STH@aol.com > Say what?! I've never heard of it. Maybe someone on the list knows...... "If you can't taste the chili dogs, stay out of the kitchen!" -Sonic -Chris Flinn dflinn@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us A net Rotubnik and Snubely Kicker for Mobius From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 11 11:47:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA14749 for sonic-ll; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:18:40 -0400 Received: (rat@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA14743; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:18:38 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:18:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Problem In-Reply-To: <199604110151.SAA24206@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Wed, 10 Apr 1996, Dan wrote: > At 07:35 PM 4/10/96 -0400, you wrote: > >The soncycle.gif WON'T DOWNLOAD OR EVEN APPEAR!!! Is it corrupt or something? > > > Where is this located? More importantly, why is he writing the mailing list about it, and why did you answer him ON THE LIST? Am I the only one that gets irritated at spam? From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 11 12:59:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA19921 for sonic-ll; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 12:27:02 -0400 Received: from mailhost1.primenet.com (mailhost1.primenet.com [198.68.32.51]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA19916 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 12:27:00 -0400 Received: from usr2.primenet.com (root@usr2.primenet.com [198.68.32.12]) by mailhost1.primenet.com (8.7.3/8.7.1) with ESMTP id JAA27745 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 09:26:59 -0700 (MST) Received: (from rotor@localhost) by usr2.primenet.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA26608; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 09:26:59 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 09:26:58 -0700 (MST) From: Dave Pistone To: Sonic Mailing List Subject: Closing down Temporarily Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hello all. Due to problems I'd rather not go into, the odds are exceedingly high that I'll be losing this account within the week. Hower, let me assure everyone that this is only a temporary thing. I'll be establishing my own Internet Service/Furry BBS within the month and WILL be back to continue maintaining the Sonic short stories page. Therefore, I'm issuing the following Sonic-related instructions: First, nobody attempt to send me any more short stories. If you've sent me one within the last two months that hasn't been posted yet, just sit tight. I may not get to it this month, but, once my net connections are all stable again posting them will be my FIRST priority. Second. From this point forward, send any questions and comments, chat, etc... to my college address at 67116@ef.gc.maricopa.edu Third, to Ratman, please make the appropriate adjustment to me email address there to reflect my college address. That's about it. I'll also be unsubscribing from the list, or otherwise placing myself on 'vacation' or something. I'll let all of you know as soon as my Internet Service, and 'net accessible Furry BBS is up and functioning and I ahve a new email address to go with it to send yoru stories and comments to. Until then, long live Sonic the Hedgehog and Co. It's been fun, and when I return to the list, I hope it's still fun. PS - To my MUCK friends, my college has a copy of TF so my MUCK activity will NOT be affected by this. Bye all +----------------------------------------+----------------------------------+ |David M. Pistone | | |The 100% Furry and Anime Maniac!!! | The Rat's Nest: | | | bookshire@rat.org | |WWW: http://rat.org/bookshire | | +----------------------------------------+ Glendale Community College: | | __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ | 67116@ef.gc.maricopa.edu | | /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / +----------------------------------+ | / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ / rotor@primenet.com | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ REMEMBER THIS IS JSUT TEMPORARY! I'LL BE BACK BY THE BEGINNING OF MAY! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 11 18:43:50 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA21075 for sonic-ll; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 18:19:58 -0400 Received: from emout06.mail.aol.com (emout06.mail.aol.com [198.81.10.43]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA21063 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 18:19:54 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA03462 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 18:19:23 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 18:19:23 -0400 Message-Id: <199604112219.SAA03462@emout06.mail.aol.com> Apparently-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net the other one. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 12 00:34:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA28417 for sonic-ll; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:18:31 -0400 Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA28408 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:18:26 -0400 Received: from pm2-ip115.vivanet.com by vivanet.vivanet.com id aa14625; 12 Apr 96 0:20 EDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960412041740.006891dc@mail.vivanet.com> X-Sender: mpenna@mail.vivanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:17:40 -0400 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: Sonic the Hedgehog Chat Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Okay everybody, since my last posting I have received close to zero responses. There are over 100 people on this list and I only received requests for a specific time to hold official sonic chat sessions from 3 people. If you didn't get the last posting or otherwise ignored it, here's the gist of it: The sonic chat channel is officially open. I thank those of you who have come to the channel and had some fun. As the channel operator, it makes my job worthwhile to see you enjoying yourselves. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, go to http://rat.org/sonic/irc/index.html, or follow the IRC link on the Sonic Resource Page at http://rat.org/sonic/ I want to hold "official" sessions when most of you can be there. That's why I left the door open for suggestions for times. I don't want to inconvenience a lot of you. So, write to me at mpenna@vivanet.com and tell me when it would be most convenient for you to be there, including what day of the week would be best. I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. The channel is there 24 hours a day, so drop by and see who might be there. Everybody is welcome, even if they're not a list subscriber. So, tell other people about it, too. Please do not send any letters about Sonic chat to Ratman or to the list. Send all mail to me ONLY. Thanks. -Matt Penna MilesProw #sonic channel operator From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 12 02:26:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA06924 for sonic-ll; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 02:16:21 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net (acme@use.usit.net [199.1.48.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA06917 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 02:16:18 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id CAA21555; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 02:16:16 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 02:16:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) Team OS/2" To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Time Change on USA Network In-Reply-To: <199604101743.NAA24078@edmund> Message-ID: Organization: Rebel Alliance of Mobius MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Wed, 10 Apr 1996, Dan Drazen wrote: > Re: shifting of StH and AoStH on USA: > > When all else fails, CYLL (consult your local listings). Theoretically, > AoStH is now showing at 8:00 am EDT. I say "theoretically" because > that's when my workday starts. That doesn't work in all areas. My local listings only show "Cartoon Express" without giving any indication as to which shows are on and when. Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog StH JJ1 Son+ Sal++ Tal++++t Nic+i Rot+i Lup+ P++ Dopw $+++ E25 Ay68 Mail: acme@use.usit.net | WWW: http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~eschulma From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 12 05:13:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id EAA16168 for sonic-ll; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 04:56:07 -0400 Received: from dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id EAA16159 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 04:56:03 -0400 Received: from miles--world (spr-ma1-19.ix.netcom.com [205.184.172.51]) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA02336 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 01:54:28 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4b13.32.19960412090039.0066059c@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: danramos@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b13 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 05:00:39 -0400 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Ramos Subject: Re: Problem Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 11:18 AM 4/11/96 -0400, you wrote: >On Wed, 10 Apr 1996, Dan wrote: > >> At 07:35 PM 4/10/96 -0400, you wrote: >> >The soncycle.gif WON'T DOWNLOAD OR EVEN APPEAR!!! Is it corrupt or something? >> > >> Where is this located? > >More importantly, why is he writing the mailing list about it, and why >did you answer him ON THE LIST? >Am I the only one that gets irritated at spam? > > Nopenope.. I also get pretty irritated with it.. 'course I've made a few OBVIOUS mistakes concerning the list. :P But I'd like to think it's pretty darn rare ('course I rarely post--but then, that's cause I wanna be on-topic when I do). Also... is it me... or are people forgettin' Sonic is a TOON? :P heh When Sonic stops suddenly, how come people don't get bludgeoned when they hang on? heh--considering the weekday cartoon, I'm surprised nobody's brought up ALL the physics that THAT series hasn't defied on more than a dozen times in each show. :P heheh AAAaaaaaaanywayz... folx.. simmer down 'n talk 'bout the show 'n stuff but, as Mystery Science Theatre 3000 put it best, "If you wonder how they eat 'n sleep, and other science facts. Just repeat to yourself 'it's just a show, I should really just relax.'" :P BTW: (I gotz me two Sonic pogs. :P heheh HEY! It's a START!) :) From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 12 13:44:50 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA19990 for sonic-ll; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 13:11:03 -0400 Received: from ns2.ac.edu ([134.224.1.29]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA19985 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 13:11:01 -0400 Received: from jaguar.ac.edu by ns2.ac.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27651; Fri, 12 Apr 96 13:16:08 EDT Received: by jaguar.ac.edu (wcGATE v4) id 35891W Fri, 12 Apr 1996 17:09:15 GMT From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) Subject: Sorry, Erich. Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 16:24:40 GMT Message-Id: <96041213091542981@jaguar.ac.edu> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sorry, Erich (and teh rest, now that I think of it), but I accidentally sent a response to a non-mail-list letter to the mail-list. Arrgh. My apologies... rob From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 12 14:05:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA19980 for sonic-ll; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 13:10:53 -0400 Received: from ns2.ac.edu ([134.224.1.29]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA19975 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 13:10:50 -0400 Received: from jaguar.ac.edu by ns2.ac.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27641; Fri, 12 Apr 96 13:16:05 EDT Received: by jaguar.ac.edu (wcGATE v4) id 35889W Fri, 12 Apr 1996 17:09:14 GMT From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) Subject: Re: OTHER SONICS CONC. (3/3) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 16:20:12 GMT Message-Id: <96041213091442979@jaguar.ac.edu> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net -> From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) Team OS/2" -> To: Robert Haynie -> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 02:26:03 -0400 (EDT) -> Subject: Re: OTHER SONICS CONC. (3/3) -> Organization: Rebel Alliance of Mobius -> -> On Wed, 10 Apr 1996, Robert Haynie wrote: -> -> > That's new. Stories not posted to the list, that is. Ever sin -> > I've been here, (which is pretty much as long as it's been running, -> > know) the list has seen a lot of fanfic. Part one was posted to th -> > list at first, and was followed up here by simple logic. When did -> > no story on the list policy begin (I never saw that announcement)? -> > I fear that is news to me. (Then agin, I like news.) -> -> Ratman started that policy last November. I never objected to -> stories posted to the list; I even argued for it. His reasoning is -> that some users are using 2400 baud modems and have SLIP or PPP -> accounts that don't let them pick and choose which messages to -> download or not download. My provider (usit.net) will not set up a -> SLIP or PPP account for you if you say you have anything less than -> 9600 baud, and I don't know why anyone with a 2400 baud modem would -> use a SLIP or PPP account (at least not more than a day or two prior -> to giving up). But he lets me use his site for free, so he gets -> final say in things like this. -> -> -> Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! -> "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog -> StH JJ1 Son+ Sal++ Tal++++t Nic+i Rot+i Lup+ P++ Dopw $+++ E25 Ay68 -> Mail: acme@use.usit.net | WWW: http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~eschulma -> Well, if Rat's started that, OK. No hassle from here. (Although it needs to be mentioned in the newer editions of the Welcome, which still approves fanfics. Edit time!!!) rob From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 12 17:32:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA09566 for sonic-ll; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 17:05:45 -0400 Received: from ns1.ptd.net (root@ns1.ptd.net [198.80.46.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA09561 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 17:05:42 -0400 Received: from JAYBIRD (cs1-4.leh.ptd.net [204.186.4.4]) by ns1.ptd.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA28035 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 17:05:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 17:05:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199604122105.RAA28035@ns1.ptd.net> X-Sender: sonic2@postoffice.ptd.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Jason Shank Subject: Re: Salome CD-SOLD! (?) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 12:04 PM 4/11/96 -0700, you wrote: >> >> Chris: I'm rather sorry to hear that nobody seems to be taking any serious >> action towards buying your cd's. I myself am somewhat of a collector >> of U2 cd's and, well, just about anything else with U2's name on it. >> Now, the point of my letter, has luck would have it, you've caught me >> at a reall BAD time. However I will try to make it worth you're >> while. You're asking for $58 (no?), I am very willing to offer you >> $75 (and no, I am NOT joking.) Here's the bad part, I'll need you >> to wait about 1 month before I can send you the money. So I quess >> what I'm saying is, if you can do this favor for me, I'll give you >> more than the asking price. Just try to imagine your cd with a sign >> that says "sold" on it, then think about that $75. >> Please let me know what you decide so I know whether or not to stop >> bugging you! e-mail is at . Thank's for >> taking the time to consider my offer! Hope to hear from you! >> > >Okay, $75 sounds good to me. I'll hold onto the disc for you. Let >me know when you will be able to send a check. > >Chris Now I had no intesion in getting involved in this, but whoever typed that, THATS MY E-MAIL ADDRESS (sonic2@postoffice.ptd.net -yeah I know, I gota get around to changeing it)! How did my E-mail name get into this? Jaybird From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 12 18:40:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA15404 for sonic-ll; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 18:22:09 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA15397 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 18:22:03 -0400 Received: from @ben ([198.189.28.55]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA21742 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 15:24:40 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 15:24:40 -0700 Message-Id: <199604122224.PAA21742@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Time Change on USA Network Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 02:16 AM 4/12/96 -0400, you wrote: >On Wed, 10 Apr 1996, Dan Drazen wrote: > >> Re: shifting of StH and AoStH on USA: >> >> When all else fails, CYLL (consult your local listings). Theoretically, >> AoStH is now showing at 8:00 am EDT. I say "theoretically" because >> that's when my workday starts. > >That doesn't work in all areas. My local listings only show "Cartoon >Express" without giving any indication as to which shows are on and when. Mine doesn't. Both, on the TV Guide, and on the preview channel. Also, I thought Sonic (not weekday) moved to USA Action Extreme Team (USA A.E.T.) last weekend. At least it did for me. -Chris Flinn A net Robuttnik and Snubely Kicker for Mobius dflinn@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us > > > >Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! >"Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog >StH JJ1 Son+ Sal++ Tal++++t Nic+i Rot+i Lup+ P++ Dopw $+++ E25 Ay68 >Mail: acme@use.usit.net | WWW: http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~eschulma > > From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 12 18:53:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA15738 for sonic-ll; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 18:29:23 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA15725 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 18:28:54 -0400 Received: from @ben ([198.189.28.55]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA21942 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 15:32:08 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 15:32:08 -0700 Message-Id: <199604122232.PAA21942@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Sonic pogs Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Guys, uh, what are all the Sonic pogs, anyway? I mean, what are all the pictures on the pogs. I'm asking this just to see if there are some worth getting. My favorite pog is: Dude with a 'tude, it rules! -Chris F. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 12 19:08:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA16005 for sonic-ll; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 18:37:17 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA15993 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 18:36:51 -0400 Received: from @ben ([198.189.28.55]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA22026 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 15:40:03 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 15:40:03 -0700 Message-Id: <199604122240.PAA22026@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Salome CD-SOLD! (?) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 05:05 PM 4/12/96 -0400, you wrote: >At 12:04 PM 4/11/96 -0700, you wrote: >>> >>> Chris: I'm rather sorry to hear that nobody seems to be taking any serious >>> action towards buying your cd's. I myself am somewhat of a collector >>> of U2 cd's and, well, just about anything else with U2's name on it. >>> Now, the point of my letter, has luck would have it, you've caught me >>> at a reall BAD time. However I will try to make it worth you're >>> while. You're asking for $58 (no?), I am very willing to offer you >>> $75 (and no, I am NOT joking.) Here's the bad part, I'll need you >>> to wait about 1 month before I can send you the money. So I quess >>> what I'm saying is, if you can do this favor for me, I'll give you >>> more than the asking price. Just try to imagine your cd with a sign >>> that says "sold" on it, then think about that $75. >>> Please let me know what you decide so I know whether or not to stop >>> bugging you! e-mail is at . Thank's for >>> taking the time to consider my offer! Hope to hear from you! >>> >> >>Okay, $75 sounds good to me. I'll hold onto the disc for you. Let >>me know when you will be able to send a check. >> >>Chris > > Now I had no intesion in getting involved in this, but whoever typed >that, THATS MY E-MAIL ADDRESS (sonic2@postoffice.ptd.net -yeah I know, I >gota get around to changeing it)! How did my E-mail name get into this? > > Jaybird > > What the? Hey! This is a Sonic LIST! If you guys want to chat, chat outside the list! I don't mean to be rude, but you are writing to over a hundred people! Next time, be careful where you send your letters. PLEASE! By the way, I did not write any of the above stuff and am not involved in this. -Chris F. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 12 23:21:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA06407 for sonic-ll; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 23:11:46 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net (acme@use.usit.net [199.1.48.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA06401 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 23:11:43 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA02272; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 23:11:40 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 23:11:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) Team OS/2" To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: OTHER SONICS CONC. (3/3) In-Reply-To: <96041213091442979@jaguar.ac.edu> Message-ID: Organization: Rebel Alliance of Mobius MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Fri, 12 Apr 1996, Robert Haynie wrote: > Well, if Rat's started that, OK. No hassle from here. (Although it > needs to be mentioned in the newer editions of the Welcome, which still > approves fanfics. Edit time!!!) It's been in the new subscriber intro text for some time. Check the list archives under the Subject: Welcome to sonic and sonic-digest. I post this document to the list after each update. You can get the new subscriber intro text at any time by sending a message to majordomo@lists.mv.net. Put these lines in the text area: info sonic end Leave the Subject: line blank because majordomo will ignore it. Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog StH JJ1 Son+ Sal++ Tal++++t Nic+i Rot+i Lup+ P++ Dopw $+++ E25 Ay68 Mail: acme@use.usit.net | WWW: http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~eschulma From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 13 01:26:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA27136 for sonic-ll; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 01:01:49 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id BAA27131 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 01:01:43 -0400 Received: from ppp17.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp17.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.47]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA27130 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 22:05:02 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 22:05:02 -0700 Message-Id: <199604130505.WAA27130@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: OTHER SONICS CONC. (3/3) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 11:11 PM 4/12/96 -0400, you wrote: >On Fri, 12 Apr 1996, Robert Haynie wrote: > >> Well, if Rat's started that, OK. No hassle from here. (Although it >> needs to be mentioned in the newer editions of the Welcome, which still >> approves fanfics. Edit time!!!) > >It's been in the new subscriber intro text for some time. Check the list >archives under the Subject: Welcome to sonic and sonic-digest. I post >this document to the list after each update. > >You can get the new subscriber intro text at any time by sending a >message to majordomo@lists.mv.net. Put these lines in the text area: > info sonic > end >Leave the Subject: line blank because majordomo will ignore it. > > >Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! >"Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog >StH JJ1 Son+ Sal++ Tal++++t Nic+i Rot+i Lup+ P++ Dopw $+++ E25 Ay68 >Mail: acme@use.usit.net | WWW: http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~eschulma > > What was that all about? From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 13 10:18:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA26780 for sonic-ll; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 10:11:39 -0400 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com (mail02.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.66]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA26774 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 10:11:36 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA05354 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 10:11:06 -0400 Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 10:11:06 -0400 Message-ID: <960413101105_190352970@mail02.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Time Change on USA Network Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Same with me! All my darn TV Guide says is "Cartoon Express". Gosh darnit, I wanna know what time Sonic's on... most of those other shows blow! SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 13 10:33:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA26779 for sonic-ll; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 10:11:39 -0400 Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA26769 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 10:11:35 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA29583 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 10:11:04 -0400 Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 10:11:04 -0400 Message-ID: <960413101103_190352959@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic the Hedgehog Chat Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Unfortunately, you're gonna have to post the location for the chat again, and I also need to know.... what do I need to download to access the Chat? IRC or something like that? Also... the question that I've been asking 4 ever... does anyone remember that really old Sonic story that came out years ago (before the Archie comic) that stated Sonic had a real name? And don't think that I don't know what I'm talking about, 'cause I used to know it myself. This question's REAL important if anyone can answer it. I don't think it was an official story, though..... SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 13 10:37:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA26786 for sonic-ll; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 10:11:45 -0400 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com (mail04.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.53]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA26781 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 10:11:43 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA06876 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 10:11:12 -0400 Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 10:11:12 -0400 Message-ID: <960413101110_190352994@mail04> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic pogs Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net You can't get 'em anymore... but here's the descriptions..... NOTE: The numbers missing are those ugly Cookie Crisp pogs that I threw out. I only kept the Sonic ones. 2. Sonic Spinball logo 3. Knuckles gliding 6. Tails jumping (looks like he's trying to do a jumping jack or something) 7. Robotnik rubbing his hands (drawn like the Weekday Morning show.. euuuu...) 9. Sonic "Dude With A 'Tude" pog 10.Sally standing with her arms crossed 11.Knack (ripped off of the cover of the Triple Trouble box) 12.Sonic's classic pose (standing, tapping one foot and waving his pointer finger) 13.Knuckles... standing there. 14.Sally with a worried look on her face. 15.Robotnik jumping (heh heh... how'd he get offa the ground! Talk 'bout a bad picture..) 16.Tails... I guess he's supposed to be flying.... There you go. SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast... as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 13 12:52:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA04748 for sonic-ll; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 12:18:14 -0400 Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA04743 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 12:18:03 -0400 Received: from COMPAQ ([203.120.81.25]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA26068 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 00:17:25 +0800 X-Sender: vicl@po.pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: vicl@pacific.net.sg (Lye Victor) Subject: Re: Fan-Fiction Short Stories Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 00:17:25 +0800 Message-ID: <19960413161723.AAA26068@COMPAQ> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Yesterday I actually sent my short stories to this mailing list , and apparently got the address wrong . Anyway , today I read that stuff about not posting fan fic to the list , so I guess that's out of the question . ( Apologies to whomever recieved those rather lengthy documents) . Anyway , seeing that the Sonic web page ( http://rat.org/sonic/) isn't going to be updated till around May , I thought I'd just "advertise" for my stories here instead , so that those who think they (the stories) sound ok can e-mail me , and I'll send a copy to those interested . I just wrote them a while back , and I'm new to this whole thing . Read the stuff below , and if any of the stories catch your interest and if you don't want to wait till May to get them , e-mail me at vicl@pacific.net.sg for a copy , which you will receive within a day or two from the time you contacted me . The following work is entirely original , to the best of my knowledge . As I've said , I only recently started in this stuff , so people might have done this before without me knowing ... # 1 : Temporal Trouble David Prower ( Tails' cybernetic brother created by fanfic author Shawn Wolski ) is apparently lost during a freak accident , and Rotor has to find him . Sonic admits his "dislike" for the cyberfox . Personal Note : I can't really go into detail for this story , since elaborating further would really spoil it . # 2 : Of Foxes and Sorcery - Part One This story would probably fit in the Alternate Sonic Universes section of the Sonic web page ( in the category "Bloodlines" is in ) This story revolves around Tails . The two tailed fox is fed up with the way the Freedom Fighters treat him like a child . That however is about to change . While on a long walk , comtemplating on that fact , Tails' loses his way , is confronted and nearly killed by a wild animal , but is saved just in time by a mysterious creature , who upon finding out who Tails is , leads him to meet a person Tails never thought still existed . That person leaves Tails a legacy the fox had never even dreamt of .... Now with a devastating power backing Tails , the fox loses control of himself temporarily , due to unforseen circumstances . During that time , Tails creates big problems for Snively , who is now intent on catching and killing Tails .... This is just a short description which does not cover all the parts of the story . # 3 : Of Foxes and Sorcery - Part Two This part of the story covers part of Tails' attempt at mastering his "gift" , with aid from unexpected sources . This part is rather short , so I can't go into detail # 4 : Of Foxes and Sorcery - Part Three This concludes the "Of Foxes and Sorcery" story . Snively goes into full swing to capture Tails , causing dire side effects in the process . Though his original plan fails , circumstances created by the failure leaves room for a secondary plan for Snively to capture the menace . Tails is eventually lured to Robotropolis , due to circumstances beyond his control ... lured to the trap that Snively has prepared for him . This story had several references to violence ( not that much ) , and may not agree with everyone . In my opinion , the story might also be considered slightly depressing .... but you decide for yourself . # 5 : As the Wheel Turns This story is set in the future , ten years after Snively's defeat . Mobius is once again peaceful , but an important decision that its rulers have to make might just have dire consequences .... Like "Temporal Trouble" , I cannot reveal too much about this story . It is however , in my opinion , quite an ok one .... So , e-mail me if the stories interest you . The longest is Of Foxes and Sorcery Part III ( about 8 pages ) , the shortest is Part II of the same story ( 2 pages ) . Happy reading ! Aaron Lye vicl@pacific.net.sg From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 13 13:50:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA08072 for sonic-ll; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 13:14:22 -0400 Received: from ns2.ac.edu ([134.224.1.29]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA08067 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 13:14:19 -0400 Received: from jaguar.ac.edu by ns2.ac.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06860; Sat, 13 Apr 96 13:19:33 EDT Received: by jaguar.ac.edu (wcGATE v4) id 35990W Sat, 13 Apr 1996 17:13:07 GMT From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) Subject: Re: OTHER SONICS CONC. (3/3) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 16:46:10 GMT Message-Id: <96041313130743627@jaguar.ac.edu> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net -> From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) Team OS/2" -> To: bort.mv.net!sonic -> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 23:11:39 -0400 (EDT) -> Subject: Re: OTHER SONICS CONC. (3/3) -> Organization: Rebel Alliance of Mobius -> -> On Fri, 12 Apr 1996, Robert Haynie wrote: -> -> > Well, if Rat's started that, OK. No hassle from here. (Althou -> > needs to be mentioned in the newer editions of the Welcome, which s -> > approves fanfics. Edit time!!!) -> -> It's been in the new subscriber intro text for some time. Check the -> list archives under the Subject: Welcome to sonic and sonic-digest. -> I post this document to the list after each update. -> -> You can get the new subscriber intro text at any time by sending a -> message to majordomo@lists.mv.net. Put these lines in the text area: -> info sonic -> end -> Leave the Subject: line blank because majordomo will ignore it. -> -> -> Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! -> "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog -> StH JJ1 Son+ Sal++ Tal++++t Nic+i Rot+i Lup+ P++ Dopw $+++ E25 Ay68 -> Mail: acme@use.usit.net | WWW: http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~eschulma -> I stand corrected. Indeed, I grovel at your feet in anguish and shame for my egregious breach of knowledge. I am a worm, a taod, mere filth before your shining glory. In other words, sorry. Pity about the rules change, but now I know... rob From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 13 15:52:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA15845 for sonic-ll; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 15:41:17 -0400 Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA15830 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 15:41:14 -0400 Received: from miles--world (spr-ma3-05.ix.netcom.com [205.184.172.101]) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA24416 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 12:41:53 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4b13.32.19960413194553.00664c3c@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: danramos@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b13 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 15:45:53 -0400 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Ramos Subject: Re: Sonic pogs Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 10:11 AM 4/13/96 -0400, you wrote: >You can't get 'em anymore... but here's the descriptions..... > >NOTE: The numbers missing are those ugly Cookie Crisp pogs that I threw out. >I only kept the Sonic ones. What do you mean, 'you can't get them anymore?' I just saw and got my first set of these pogs just last week... they're still avilable in good quantity, from what I saw. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 13 16:37:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA19375 for sonic-ll; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 16:29:47 -0400 Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA19370 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 16:29:45 -0400 Received: from pm2-ip111.vivanet.com by vivanet.vivanet.com id aa04952; 13 Apr 96 16:31 EDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960413202900.0067422c@mail.vivanet.com> X-Sender: mpenna@mail.vivanet.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 16:29:00 -0400 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: Re: Sonic the Hedgehog Chat Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Unfortunately, you're gonna have to post the location for the chat again, and >I also need to know.... what do I need to download to access the Chat? IRC or >something like that? Go to http://rat.org/sonic/irc/index.html on the World Wide Web and all of your questions will be answered. Or you can follow the IRC link from the Sonic Resource page, which is located at http://rat.org/sonic/ To reiterate, please don't post questions about the chat sessions to the list. Send all questions or comments to me directly. In the future, all posts to the list regarding chat (Aside from those that are mine) will be regarded as SPAM. So, DON'T DO IT. Thank you. -Matt Penna MilesProw #sonic channel operator E-mail: mpenna@vivanet.com From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 14 12:21:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA10636 for sonic-ll; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 12:01:34 -0400 Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA10631 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 12:01:31 -0400 Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA00690; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 12:01:26 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id MAA11028; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 12:01:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199604141601.MAA11028@edmund> Subject: Re: Fan-Fiction Short Stories To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 12:00:45 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <19960413161723.AAA26068@COMPAQ> from "Lye Victor" at Apr 14, 96 00:17:25 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net OK, in the spirit of Aaron's post, let me weigh in with the following: [submitted for posting] Space Case There's been a major development in Robotropolis, one the Freedom Fighters didn't anticipate. A young stranger also comes into their midst. Are the two related? [in development] When A Bunnie Meet A Bunnie For all those who ever wondered (like myself) whether Bunnie's counterpart on the homeworld of the Antisonic [Sonic comics #24] is also partially roboticized, here's your answer. Bunnie is pulled into the alternative world and finds herself at the center of a diabolical plot...one which WASN'T hatched by Robotnik. Who is the evil genius? And what about Snively and Nicole? [in development] My Quills Are Quick An "Other Sonic" satire: it's San Francisco, 1944, and who's that short guy in the trenchcoat? It's Sonic Spade, private eye and hardboiled hedgehog. It's Mickey Spillane meets Mobius in the City By The Bay. [in development] Mobius Apocalypse Tired of reading Sonic fanfic? Want it to be over with? Hoping for some kind of happy ending? I can't speak about the ending, but along the way to tying up all the loose ends the residents of Knothole confront not only death but fates worse than death. This is going to be one dark ride. Watch this cyberspace. ================================================================ || ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen || |\__-- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu || | / __ _ ||Sonic: "Whoa, you're not going to || //\ / \ /__ || use the L-word, are you?" || | o| 0|__ --_ ||Tails: "Well...." || \\____-- __ \ ___ - ||Sonic: "Then I will...I love you, || (@@ __/ / /_ || little bro." || -_____--- --_ ||AoStH: "Tails' New Home" ================================================================ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 14 22:34:59 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA16890 for sonic-ll; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 22:18:15 -0400 Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA16885 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 22:18:13 -0400 From: RoBUTTnik@aol.com Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA27494 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 22:17:42 -0400 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 22:17:42 -0400 Message-ID: <960414221742_469904756@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic's Speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net SUPPERSTH said that hedgehogs cost 80 bucks . So if I can get on for 10 I probley should From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 14 22:47:45 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA17114 for sonic-ll; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 22:29:10 -0400 Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA17109 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 22:29:08 -0400 From: RoBUTTnik@aol.com Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA04927 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 22:28:38 -0400 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 22:28:38 -0400 Message-ID: <960414222837_469912765@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: No Subject Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net thouse sonic pogs are preety cool and include sonic sal knuckles tails nack(from tripple trouple)and robotnik From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 14 22:49:50 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA16981 for sonic-ll; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 22:22:58 -0400 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com (emout08.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.23]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA16974 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 22:22:55 -0400 From: RoBUTTnik@aol.com Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA20701 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 22:22:25 -0400 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 22:22:25 -0400 Message-ID: <960414222224_469908209@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic's Speed Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net KNUCK'S said that a first car could punch a hole and a second car could fallow up with less trouble. this is true at lest with bike races like the tour de france From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 15 17:10:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA05757 for sonic-ll; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 16:13:53 -0400 Received: from ds1.gl.umbc.edu (root@ds1.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.3.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA05735 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 16:13:33 -0400 Received: from xsa03.gl.umbc.edu (cmugg1@xsa03.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.61.63]) by ds1.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA15187 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 16:13:13 -0400 Received: (cmugg1@localhost) by xsa03.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA22273; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 16:13:20 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 16:13:19 -0400 (EDT) From: mugg charles To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: The Sonic Anime Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net To anyone interested (or still in the dark): I have created a new page on my sonic page that has screen grabs from the Sonic Anime. This is primarily for anyone who has yet to see any shots from it. The screen grabs were scanned from a certain videogame magazine. I myself have yet to obtain the two episodes. But when I do, I will add stuff to the new page. :) Kiken signing off. ASOBIWA...OWARIDA! Sayonara. This message from the Baltimore Ronin, homepage at: http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~cmugg1 Ikuze! /---/ |\ /\ "To live a life of power, / / | \ / \ you must have faith in what you / / | / / \ believe, even if others tell you ------- |/ /------\ you are wrong; / __ |\ __|__ The first step to living a life of / | | | \ | | | power is to find courage, you must / | _| | / |__|__| be prepared to reach beyond the / |_____| |/ | boundaries of time itself; | / \ And to do that, all you need is the will to take that very first step." Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 15 18:13:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA10518 for sonic-ll; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 17:07:17 -0400 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com (emout08.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.23]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA10508 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 17:07:13 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA13196 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 17:06:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 17:06:42 -0400 Message-ID: <960415170641_375966798@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic the Hedgehog Chat Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hey, SPAM is pretty cool. :-) SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 15 18:34:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA10516 for sonic-ll; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 17:07:16 -0400 Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com ([198.81.10.12]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA10503 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 17:07:12 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA01872 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 17:06:40 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 17:06:40 -0400 Message-ID: <960415170640_375966784@emout04.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic pogs Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net You can't... unless you're not talking about the ones that come in the cereal box. The ones that come in the Cookie Crisp box, that offer is long gone. Unless the stores in your shopping center have really OLD boxes... eeuuuuuuu...... SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 15 18:36:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA11068 for sonic-ll; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 17:19:10 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.4.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA11055 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 17:19:04 -0400 Received: from sun-5.cae.wisc.edu (sun-5.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.69.181]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with ESMTP id QAA19543 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 16:18:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from firmiss@localhost) by sun-5.cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) id QAA11829; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 16:18:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 16:18:50 -0500 (CDT) From: James Firmiss To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Sally might have some Competition In-Reply-To: <960414221742_469904756@emout09.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net I know this list is not for game news but this might put a new twist on things. The newest issue of GamePro (in their news section... I forget what page) mentioned that Sega is working on a NEW Sonic game for Genesis, Saturn, Game Gear, Pico, P.C. platforms. All they say about it is that it will feature a new 'gal' named Tiara (species not given). It will also feature a new nemesis. GamePro didn't know the name of the new nemesis or the name of the new game. If this game becomes popular, then we could see a renewed interest in Sonic in general. It is probably too much to ask, but it would be great if this also prompted a third season of Sonic. I wonder if this will affect the Archie comic story. Ken Penders said that Archie already had plots for issues up to 50 (or was it 60). Some of those might have to be tweaked in order to incorporate the new game's characters (OR Archie will probably just start out with one of their 48-page specials). In unrelated news: I got a box of Cookie Crisp with the Sonic POGs. Bleh... why do they have to put those POGs in such an awful cereal. -- James Firmiss firmiss@cae.wisc.edu @[=g3,8d]\&fbb=-q]/hk%fg" From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 15 20:47:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA23198 for sonic-ll; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 19:56:22 -0400 Received: from ns.ge.com (ns.ge.com [192.35.39.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA23183 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 19:56:12 -0400 Received: from getns2.erie.ge.com ([3.14.4.56]) by ns.ge.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA06310 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 19:56:08 -0400 Received: from crypt.erie.ge.com by getns1.erie.ge.com with SMTP; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 19:56:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from csp189.ge.com by crypt.erie.ge.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07222; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 19:56:05 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 19:56:05 -0400 Message-Id: <9604152356.AA07222@crypt.erie.ge.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic's cool and I would like to know something. Newsgroups: junk References: From: bauerle@engr.erie.ge.com (Ron Bauerle) Organization: GE Transportation Systems, Control Engineering Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >From a.f.sh: In article , pteryx@mainelink.net (Pteryx) writes: >In article <316AB226.56F6@sasknet.sk.ca>, Peggy Lawson > wrote: > >> I want to see who likes what characteres people like. Sonic, Sally,Tails, >> Rotor, Bunnie, Antoine, or what I don't care. > >Personally, I enjoy Sally quite a bit. IMO, she's the best fictional >princess since Leia. How many others could keep this band of freedom >fighters working together so well? Frankly, how many people could live >with an egotistical superhero and a cowardly royal guard with delusions of >grandeur and still like both of them? -- Pteryx From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 15 21:00:12 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA23470 for sonic-ll; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 20:05:14 -0400 Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com (mail06.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.108]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA23465 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 20:05:12 -0400 From: RoBUTTnik@aol.com Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA23646 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 20:04:41 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 20:04:41 -0400 Message-ID: <960415200438_191778133@mail06> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: your mail Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Chris and SUPER STH said that they got reid of the cookie cripse ones, thats ok but if any time down the road (heaven forbid) you decide to sell them the price loss will be quite a bit( but then again what am I talking about I ant gonna sell mine) Gata speed keed Syh JJ1 Sal+++! Son++ Tal++t Wes++^ P+ $++++( Its true ) E27 A17 GM Hay what doya know I figured out how to use this thing From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 15 22:15:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA28188 for sonic-ll; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 21:33:37 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net (acme@use.usit.net [199.1.48.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA28182 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 21:33:34 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA03316; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 21:33:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 21:33:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) Team OS/2" To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic the Hedgehog Chat In-Reply-To: <960415170641_375966798@emout08.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: Organization: Rebel Alliance of Mobius MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Mon, 15 Apr 1996 SUPERSTH@aol.com wrote: > Hey, SPAM is pretty cool. :-) If you're referring to food, SPAM is wonderful. (There, now Hormel won't sue me.) But net.spam is what we don't need any more of. If for some reason, you do enjoy it, try hanging out in the alt.sex.* groups and you'll find plenty. And when you actually do "make money fast" you should at least do something useful with it, like buying metal-eating bombs or a deroboticizer. Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog StH JJ1 Son+ Sal++ Tal++++t Nic+i Rot+i Lup+ P++ Dopw $+++ E25 Ay68 Mail: acme@use.usit.net | WWW: http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~eschulma From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 15 23:10:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA02318 for sonic-ll; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 22:37:57 -0400 Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com (mail06.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.108]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA02313 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 22:37:55 -0400 From: RoBUTTnik@aol.com Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA24329 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 22:37:18 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 22:37:18 -0400 Message-ID: <960415223653_191897427@mail06> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sally might have some Competition Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net I think that more then likly this new character(s) will be put in as seconary characters. Like thay did with amy rose and nack the weasle. gotta speed keed Sth JJ1 Sal+++! Son++ Tal++t Wes++^ P+ $++++ E27 A17 GM From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 15 23:34:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA02149 for sonic-ll; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 22:31:41 -0400 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com (mail02.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.66]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA02142 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 22:31:36 -0400 From: RoBUTTnik@AOL.COM Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA11422 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 22:31:05 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 22:31:05 -0400 Message-ID: <960415223102_191892973@mail02.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: interview with Yuji Naka Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net I dont know if any one cares but I came across an Interview with Yuji Naka (creater of sonic/robotnik) . Note this interview took place just before the relase of sonic 2. Interview with Yuji Naka: the creator of sonic the Hedgehog We recently had the opportunity to vist with Yuji Naka, the creator of Sonic the Hedgehog, at the SEGA Technical Institute in Palo Alto, Calfifornia. Naka and the original Sonic team are currently working on sonic the hedgehog 2, the exciting sequel planned for relase later this year. The combination of Japanese programmers and artists with local resources make the development of sonic 2 a truly exciting American-Japanese joint effort. SEGA VISSONS: We understand youre busy working on sonic the hedgehog 2. What can you can you tell us about it? NAKA: For one thing, sonic 2 is twice as long as sonic 1. For another, sonic has to run through more levels...many more then sonic 1. Also, the new Mobius worlds are brighter, crisper, and much more detailed. However, we think players will be too busy getting through the game to spend any time enjoying the scenery. Especially since sonic will have a new friend. SV: A new friend? NAKA: A fox with two tails. We call him tails naturally. He helps sonic out of tight spots, and can help sonic defeat enemies. SV: How many people are working on sonic 2? How does this compare with the oreiginal sonic 1? NAKA: A total of 12 people are working on sonic 2. Thats 30% more then worked on the original game. Its basically the same team as the original, with another programer and more designers and artists. The original team had 3 artists, 2 game designers and 3 sound and music guys. SV: Who is writting the music? NAKA: The bass player for the famous Japanese band called Dream Come True wrote the original music for the game. The other 2 guys worked on the sound effects and on converting to a video game format. The same guys are working on the music for sonic 2. SV: What were some of the things you thought about when you first created the sonic character? NAKA: At first we used a character that looked like a rabbit with ears that could extend and pick up objects. As the game got faster and faster, we needed to come up with a special characteristic to give our character some power over his enemies. I rembered a character I had thought about years ago who could roll himself into a ball and slam into enemies. Hedgehogs can roll themselfs into a ball, so we decided to go from a rabbit to a hedgehog. SV: How about the name sonic? NAKA: Because our new character could move really fast on the screen we were looking for a name that suggested speed. One of the designers said supersonic and the sonic part stuck. SV: Where did the other characters in the game come from? NAKA: We wanted one of the characters in the game to be eggshaped, so we created Robotnik. It was a great character, but since it couldnt be the main character, we made him the bad guy. SV: What were some of your other games? NAKA: Ghouls & Ghosts, Phantasy Star I and II and Super Thunder Bolt for the Genesis. For the Master System I did Phanstsy Star I, Space Harrier, Outrun, Blackbelt, Spy Vs Spy, F16 Fighting Falcon, and Great Baseball. SV: How and when did you get started creating video games? NAKA: I joined SEGA in 1984, after I finished school. SV: Were you programming games in school? NAKA: I had a part time job programming games while I was in school. I worked on Fujitsu and Sharp computers. I joined Sega in Japan and then came to America last year. SV: What is your ongoing philosophy about creating video games? NAKA: I want to make interesting games. I want to show my dreams and visions to kids. But most important, I want to create something that will make the player happy. I want the player to be surprised and have fun. SV: Do you have any advice for people who want to creat video games? NAKA: Yes. Play lots of games. Not just play them to win, but think about them critically and analyze their strengths and weaknesses, constantly looking for ways to improve them. They should also draw on their own experciences for insperation. Everything I do in my daily life, I think about how it would fit into a game. During our vist to the SEGA Technical Instittute, we confirmed what we had suspected all along--sonic 2 is going to be the hottest title of the year. Period. Heres why: Sonic 2 is bigger, faster, more challenging, and more fun then the original. It has more levels, with a secret zone that you'll have to work hard to find, a new bonus rounds that youll have to get through to get the Chaos Emeralds. Sonic 2 will be coming out on Genesis, Game Gear, and Seag CD. The increased capacity of the Sega CD version will allow addational zones, as well as special bonus rounds between zones. In these bonus rounds, sonic takes you on a first person roller coster ride, a half pipe maze complete with enemies, traps and dead ends. You control sonic as he tries to get through the maze, and you go with him as he takes on those 360 degree loops and 90 degree turns. And thats just between the zones. All versions of sonic 2 will have new zones, with new tricks, new enemies, and new challenges. Wait till you try the new Green Hill Zone, or the new Metropolis Zone, or the Chemical Factory. Or Death Egg, where you get to visit Robotniks ship. The Hill Top Zone will take sonic to new heights. The Chemical Factory Zone is the acid test of sonics prowess. The New Green Hill Zone is even bigger and more challenging then the original. The Green Hill Zone has sonic and his friend running through corkscrews and other strange structures. Well hope you enjoyed. Gotta Speed Keed Sth JJ1 Sal+++! Son++ Tal++t Wes++^ P+ $++++ E27 A17 GM From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 00:41:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA17021 for sonic-ll; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 00:10:23 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id AAA17009 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 00:10:17 -0400 Received: from ppp16.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp16.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.46]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA14530 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 21:12:59 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 21:12:59 -0700 Message-Id: <199604160412.VAA14530@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Sonic pogs Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 05:06 PM 4/15/96 -0400, you wrote: >You can't... unless you're not talking about the ones that come in the cereal >box. The ones that come in the Cookie Crisp box, that offer is long gone. >Unless the stores in your shopping center have really OLD boxes... >eeuuuuuuu...... > >SUPER STH@aol.com > >"Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic > Not really. I just got Cookie Crisp (and some new pogs, finally) today, and it's ok. -Chris From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 04:08:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id DAA29223 for sonic-ll; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 03:32:31 -0400 Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id DAA29218 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 03:32:20 -0400 Received: from COMPAQ ([203.120.80.21]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA24657 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 15:31:58 +0800 X-Sender: vicl@po.pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: vicl@pacific.net.sg (Lye Victor) Subject: Re: Sonic Fan-Fic Update Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 15:31:58 +0800 Message-ID: <19960416073156.AAA24657@COMPAQ> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Several days back , I posted an "advertisement" on this list for my fan-fiction stories . This is just a small update . This is the number of requests I have recieved to date : Temporal Trouble : 5 Of Foxes and Sorcery (3 parts) : 6 As the Wheel Turns : 5 For those who prefer to download it from the WWW , read here , then skip the section on e-mails . A day or two ago , I recieved an offer from the person known as Commander Sonic Data ( I don't know his/her real name) . He/She offered to upload my fan-fic to his/her webpage , so that people wouldn't have to contact me directly for these stories (since rat.org won't be updated real soon...) . Anyway , he/she has kept his/her word and all five of my fan-fic stories are now available at the Freedom Fighters Command Central (I think that's the name..) The URL is HTTP://INET.UNI-C.DK/~SONICCSD/ . Look in the Gallery section . Many , many thanks to Commander Sonic Data for the offer . REMEMBER to let me know what you think of my fan-fic . Thanx . For those of you who want to recieve the fan-fic via e-mail , read below . Since I have to send the stories to you manually , and I only check my mail once a day , all requests should be processed within 36 hours from the time you sent the request . If this time has elasped and you still haven't recieved it , it probably means that the request got lost (Check the address you sent it to , was it vicl@pacific.net.sg ? ) , or something equally nasty . So , if you haven't heard back from me , do send another letter my way , and I'll send you your request . If you have no idea what I'm talking about , chances are that you missed my earlier post , so for those in the dark , there's a description of my fan-fic below . Enjoy . Aaron Lye vicl@pacific.net.sg StH JJ1 WkS tFF Son++ Sal++ Tal+++t Bun++" Rot~ Ant++ Nic+ Dul+ UnC0 Bks+ Vil Rbk0 Snv--/+ Ext Knu+ Mut+ P+ Df $+++ E27 Ay78 GM Read the stuff below , and if any of the stories catch your interest and if you don't want to wait till May to get them , e-mail me at vicl@pacific.net.sg for a copy , which you will receive within a day or two from the time you contacted me . The following work is entirely original , to the best of my knowledge . As I've said , I only recently started in this stuff , so people might have done this before without me knowing ... # 1 : Temporal Trouble David Prower ( Tails' cybernetic brother created by fanfic author Shawn Wolski ) is apparently lost during a freak accident , and Rotor has to find him . Sonic admits his "dislike" for the cyberfox . Personal Note : I can't really go into detail for this story , since elaborating further would really spoil it . # 2 : Of Foxes and Sorcery - Part One This story would probably fit in the Alternate Sonic Universes section of the Sonic web page ( in the category "Bloodlines" is in ) This story revolves around Tails . The two tailed fox is fed up with the way the Freedom Fighters treat him like a child . That however is about to change . While on a long walk , comtemplating on that fact , Tails' loses his way , is confronted and nearly killed by a wild animal , but is saved just in time by a mysterious creature , who upon finding out who Tails is , leads him to meet a person Tails never thought still existed . That person leaves Tails a legacy the fox had never even dreamt of .... Now with a devastating power backing Tails , the fox loses control of himself temporarily , due to unforseen circumstances . During that time , Tails creates big problems for Snively , who is now intent on catching and killing Tails .... This is just a short description which does not cover all the parts of the story . # 3 : Of Foxes and Sorcery - Part Two This part of the story covers part of Tails' attempt at mastering his "gift" , with aid from unexpected sources . This part is rather short , so I can't go into detail # 4 : Of Foxes and Sorcery - Part Three This concludes the "Of Foxes and Sorcery" story . Snively goes into full swing to capture Tails , causing dire side effects in the process . Though his original plan fails , circumstances created by the failure leaves room for a secondary plan for Snively to capture the menace . Tails is eventually lured to Robotropolis , due to circumstances beyond his control ... lured to the trap that Snively has prepared for him . This story had several references to violence ( not that much ) , and may not agree with everyone . In my opinion , the story might also be considered slightly depressing .... but you decide for yourself . # 5 : As the Wheel Turns This story is set in the future , ten years after Snively's defeat . Mobius is once again peaceful , but an important decision that its rulers have to make might just have dire consequences .... Like "Temporal Trouble" , I cannot reveal too much about this story . It is however , in my opinion , quite an ok one .... So , e-mail me if the stories interest you . The longest is Of Foxes and Sorcery Part III ( about 8 pages ) , the shortest is Part II of the same story ( 2 pages ) . Happy reading ! Aaron Lye vicl@pacific.net.sg From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 09:34:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA16550 for sonic-ll; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 08:42:58 -0400 Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA16539 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 08:42:52 -0400 Received: from COMPAQ ([203.120.80.251]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA6112 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:42:45 +0800 X-Sender: vicl@po.pacific.net.sg (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: vicl@pacific.net.sg (Lye Victor) Subject: Re : ZORON : No e-mail ? Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:42:45 +0800 Message-ID: <19960416124244.AAA6112@COMPAQ> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At most a day ago , someone called ZORON e-mailed me for my fan-fic stories . However , some error occurred , and I ended up not recieving his/her e-mail . So , Zoron , if you're still interested , please send me your e-mail address , or you can get the fan-fic from the Gallery of http://inet.uni-c.dk/~soniccsd/ . Sorry , and thanks ! Aaron Lye vicl@pacific.net.sg From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 09:44:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA15964 for sonic-ll; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 08:35:11 -0400 Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA15959 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 08:35:08 -0400 Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA02772; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 08:35:05 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id IAA29271; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 08:35:05 -0400 Message-Id: <199604161235.IAA29271@edmund> Subject: Re: Sally might have some Competition To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 08:35:03 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "James Firmiss" at Apr 15, 96 04:18:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > > The newest issue of GamePro (in their news section... I forget what page) > mentioned that Sega is working on a NEW Sonic game for > Genesis, Saturn, Game Gear, Pico, P.C. platforms. > > All they say about it is that it will feature a new 'gal' named Tiara > (species not given). It will also feature a new nemesis. GamePro didn't > know the name of the new nemesis or the name of the new game. > Could possibly be a reference to Sally. After all, a "tiara" is a "jeweled, ornamented coronet worn by women." So why not use an article of clothing as the name. Especially since Robotnik's name in Japan is Eggman -- relating to his shape. I certainly wouldn't mind seeing her as part of a game. BTW: when you rely on an aspect of something to describe it in whole (Sally as "Tiara," Robotnik as Eggman) these are examples of SYNECDOCHE (pronounced: sin-NECK-doe-key). This list is now officially Educational. ;-) > If this game becomes popular, then we could see a renewed interest in Sonic > in general. It is probably too much to ask, but it would be great if this > also prompted a third season of Sonic. I wonder if this will affect the > Archie comic story. Ken Penders said that Archie already had plots for > issues up to 50 (or was it 60). Some of those might have to be tweaked > in order to incorporate the new game's characters (OR Archie will probably > just start out with one of their 48-page specials). > Since I haven't heard of any kind of detente between Sega and DiC, we must assume there is still bad blood between them. As for Archie, remember how long it took for them to get the color of Sally's fur right! They apparently have a lengthy lead-time in the comix biz, so even immediate changes may take a while to show up in print. After all, Ken Penders was speaking of Scott Fulop's editorial post in the past tense for some time before his moving on was announced in #35. > In unrelated news: > > I got a box of Cookie Crisp with the Sonic POGs. Bleh... why do they have > to put those POGs in such an awful cereal. > Best advice: save the pogs, throw away the cereal and eat the box. It's probably more nutritious. ================================================================ || ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen || |\__-- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu || | / __ _ ||Sonic: "Whoa, you're not going to || //\ / \ /__ || use the L-word, are you?" || | o| 0|__ --_ ||Tails: "Well...." || \\____-- __ \ ___ - ||Sonic: "Then I will...I love you, || (@@ __/ / /_ || little bro." || -_____--- --_ ||AoStH: "Tails' New Home" ================================================================ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 10:52:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA25288 for sonic-ll; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 10:19:01 -0400 Received: from ds1.gl.umbc.edu (root@ds1.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.3.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA25283 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 10:18:59 -0400 Received: from rpa11.gl.umbc.edu (cmugg1@rpa11.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.61.101]) by ds1.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA28837 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 10:18:46 -0400 Received: (cmugg1@localhost) by rpa11.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA22210; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 10:18:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 10:18:55 -0400 (EDT) From: mugg charles To: sonic@bort.mv.net cc: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: interview with Yuji Naka In-Reply-To: <960415223102_191892973@mail02.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Mon, 15 Apr 1996 RoBUTTnik@AOL.COM wrote: > I dont know if any one cares but I came across an Interview with Yuji Naka > (creater of sonic/robotnik) . Note this interview took place just before the > relase of sonic 2. Kiken here, well, Naka Yuji-san (or "YU2" as he likes to be called) did create Sonic, but he didn't create Eggman. I believe that Ohshima Naoto-san (or "Big Island" as he likes to go by) created Eggman. > SV: What were some of the things you thought about when you first created the > sonic character? > > NAKA: At first we used a character that looked like a rabbit with ears that > could extend and pick up objects. As the game got faster and faster, we > needed to come up with a special characteristic to give our character some > power over his enemies. I rembered a character I had thought about years ago > who could roll himself into a ball and slam into enemies. Hedgehogs can roll > themselfs into a ball, so we decided to go from a rabbit to a hedgehog. Jeez, talk about the "long and short" of it. There were over 200 original illustrations by the programmers and artists at Sega Enterprises (Japan). After about one month, they managed to narrow the selection down to four individual characters: A wolf wearing a stars and stripes t-shirt (he looked very Sonic-esque) A bullbog wearing a "cowboy" outfit A roundish, egg-shaped human wearing loud hawaiian style clothes and carrying an airboard And well, guess! Its kinda obvious who made it in the final decision, but its interesting to see how Eggman was originally intended to be the hero. I still think that would have been odd, running around the screen with some large, round guy. > Sonic 2 is bigger, faster, more challenging, and more fun then the > original. It has more levels, with a secret zone that you'll have to work > hard to find, a new bonus rounds that youll have to get through to get the > Chaos Emeralds. Oh, that secret zone. Formerly called "Hidden Palace". Damn, they hid it so well it wasn't even in the final program. > Well hope you enjoyed. > > Gotta Speed Keed > > Sth JJ1 Sal+++! Son++ Tal++t Wes++^ P+ $++++ E27 A17 GM Kiken signing off. ASOBIWA...OWARIDA! Sayonara. This message from the Baltimore Ronin, homepage at: http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~cmugg1 Ikuze! /---/ |\ /\ "To live a life of power, / / | \ / \ you must have faith in what you / / | / / \ believe, even if others tell you ------- |/ /------\ you are wrong; / __ |\ __|__ The first step to living a life of / | | | \ | | | power is to find courage, you must / | _| | / |__|__| be prepared to reach beyond the / |_____| |/ | boundaries of time itself; | / \ And to do that, all you need is the will to take that very first step." Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 15:34:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA15778 for sonic-ll; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 14:43:53 -0400 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA15744 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 14:43:32 -0400 Received: from terra.nlnet.nf.ca (terra.nlnet.nf.ca [192.75.13.101]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA22572 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:12:27 -0230 (NDT) Received: from n105h082.nlnet.nf.ca by terra.nlnet.nf.ca; (5.65/1.1.8.2/26Jan95-0807PM) id AA21706; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:12:22 -0230 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:12:22 -0230 Message-Id: <9604161842.AA21706@terra.nlnet.nf.ca> X-Sender: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (The Necromancer) Subject: Re: interview with Yuji Naka Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Its kinda obvious who made it in the final decision, but its interesting >to see how Eggman was originally intended to be the hero. I still think >that would have been odd, running around the screen with some large, round >guy. You've obviously never heard of the Mario Bros. ------------------------ The Necromancer lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca Pinky: Do you think you can fool them into thinking you're . Napoleon? Brain: It will be a difficult ruse. They are expecting a tiny little megalomaniac who's bent on ruling the world. Instead they have me. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 17:01:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA24342 for sonic-ll; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:18:41 -0400 Received: from ds1.gl.umbc.edu (root@ds1.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.3.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA24335 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:18:38 -0400 Received: from xsa05.gl.umbc.edu (cmugg1@xsa05.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.61.65]) by ds1.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA05895 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:18:12 -0400 Received: (cmugg1@localhost) by xsa05.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA05630; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:18:10 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:18:08 -0400 (EDT) From: mugg charles To: sonic@bort.mv.net cc: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: interview with Yuji Naka In-Reply-To: <9604161842.AA21706@terra.nlnet.nf.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Tue, 16 Apr 1996, The Necromancer wrote: > >Its kinda obvious who made it in the final decision, but its interesting > >to see how Eggman was originally intended to be the hero. I still think > >that would have been odd, running around the screen with some large, round > >guy. > > You've obviously never heard of the Mario Bros. KIken here, nawww, Eggman still has greater tonage, but I'm reffering to running through such things as loop de loops and corkscrews. I haven't ever seen Mario do anything like that. ;) Kiken signing off. ASOBIWA...OWARIDA! Sayonara. This message from the Baltimore Ronin, homepage at: http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~cmugg1 Ikuze! /---/ |\ /\ "To live a life of power, / / | \ / \ you must have faith in what you / / | / / \ believe, even if others tell you ------- |/ /------\ you are wrong; / __ |\ __|__ The first step to living a life of / | | | \ | | | power is to find courage, you must / | _| | / |__|__| be prepared to reach beyond the / |_____| |/ | boundaries of time itself; | / \ And to do that, all you need is the will to take that very first step." Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 17:15:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA24843 for sonic-ll; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:35:18 -0400 Received: from iwaynet.iwaynet.net (iwaynet.iwaynet.net [198.30.29.7]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA24835 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:35:10 -0400 Received: from port143.iwaynet.net (port143.iwaynet.net [198.30.29.143]) by iwaynet.iwaynet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA23294 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:32:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:32:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199604162032.QAA23294@iwaynet.iwaynet.net> X-Sender: eggleton@iwaynet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: "Knuck's/Kulock" Subject: Re: interview with Yuji Naka Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 10:18 AM 4/16/96 -0400, you wrote: >On Mon, 15 Apr 1996 RoBUTTnik@AOL.COM wrote: >> SV: What were some of the things you thought about when you first created the >> sonic character? >> >> NAKA: At first we used a character that looked like a rabbit with ears that >> could extend and pick up objects. As the game got faster and faster, we >> needed to come up with a special characteristic to give our character some >> power over his enemies. I rembered a character I had thought about years ago >> who could roll himself into a ball and slam into enemies. Hedgehogs can roll >> themselfs into a ball, so we decided to go from a rabbit to a hedgehog. > >Jeez, talk about the "long and short" of it. There were over 200 >original illustrations by the programmers and artists at Sega Enterprises >(Japan). After about one month, they managed to narrow the selection >down to four individual characters: > >A wolf wearing a stars and stripes t-shirt (he looked very Sonic-esque) >A bullbog wearing a "cowboy" outfit >A roundish, egg-shaped human wearing loud hawaiian style clothes and > carrying an airboard >And well, guess! > >Its kinda obvious who made it in the final decision, but its interesting >to see how Eggman was originally intended to be the hero. I still think >that would have been odd, running around the screen with some large, round >guy. I think rather they would have slowed it down a bit for Eggman as the hero..but it would make an interesting spin attack.. MINDLESS BLATHER: I'd be intersting if they'd revive Sonic's 1 &2 (at least) as 'Director's Cuts', with the hidden palace intact, and the option to play as Eggman(da hero)(or heck, the wolf would be kewl..I could see him with Sally..) >> Sonic 2 is bigger, faster, more challenging, and more fun then the >> original. It has more levels, with a secret zone that you'll have to work >> hard to find, a new bonus rounds that youll have to get through to get the >> Chaos Emeralds. > >Oh, that secret zone. Formerly called "Hidden Palace". Damn, they hid >it so well it wasn't even in the final program. It was in a slight way..check out #10 in the sound test..not fast enough to get all out, I s'pose.. >> Well hope you enjoyed. >> >> Gotta Speed Keed >> >> Sth JJ1 Sal+++! Son++ Tal++t Wes++^ P+ $++++ E27 A17 GM > > >Kiken signing off. >ASOBIWA...OWARIDA! >Sayonara. > >This message from the Baltimore Ronin, >homepage at: >http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~cmugg1 >Ikuze! > > /---/ |\ /\ "To live a life of power, > / / | \ / \ you must have faith in what you > / / | / / \ believe, even if others tell you > ------- |/ /------\ you are wrong; > / __ |\ __|__ The first step to living a life of > / | | | \ | | | power is to find courage, you must > / | _| | / |__|__| be prepared to reach beyond the >/ |_____| |/ | boundaries of time itself; > | / \ And to do that, all you need is the > will to take that very first step." > > Sonic > -Knuck's/Kulock the Echidna/Moogle I'll have my sig up soon, I promise.. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 17:30:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA26744 for sonic-ll; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:51:32 -0400 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com (emout08.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.23]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA26736 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:51:27 -0400 From: RoBUTTnik@aol.com Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA28798 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:50:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:50:56 -0400 Message-ID: <960416165055_471289051@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: interview with Yuji Naka Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net kiken corected me on several points, I would like to say that Im sorry if I miss leaded anyone I just asomed that the creater of sonic would be the creater of robotnik once again I apologyses. RoButtnik@aol.com Sth JJ1 Sal+++! Son++ Tal++t Wes++^ P+ $++++ E27 A17 GM gotta speed keed From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 19:11:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA04687 for sonic-ll; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 18:40:57 -0400 Received: from busd-netra1 (busd-netra1.berryessa.k12.ca.us [199.233.182.20]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA04680 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 18:40:53 -0400 Received: from pc-mor-library (206-213-148-066.berryessa.k12.ca.us) by busd-netra1 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02744; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 15:38:09 -0700 Message-Id: <9604162238.AA02744@busd-netra1> X-Sender: mmedctr@busd-netra1.berryessa.k12.ca.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 15:41:18 -0700 To: Sonic@bort.mv.net From: Morrill Middle School - Library Subject: Need Pics of Characters! Probably upcoming Sonic WWW page. Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net If anyone would like to send what their Sonic character looks like and have me draw it, PLEASE send it directly to: mmedctr.@berryessa.k12.ca.us Thank you. Kabuki From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 19:50:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA07627 for sonic-ll; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 19:04:39 -0400 Received: from tsb.weschke.com (foxfire@tsb.weschke.com [204.91.224.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA07583 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 19:04:34 -0400 Received: (from foxfire@localhost) by tsb.weschke.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id TAA01838; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 19:04:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 19:04:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Forsyth To: sonic@bort.mv.net cc: dgonterman@aol.com Subject: Fanfics and Politics don't mix. In-Reply-To: <960416165055_471289051@emout08.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net *sigh* Okay, folks, we have a problem here. Specifically, in David Gonterman's Sailor Moon: American Kitsune fanfic, part 6, David's Side. Ordinarily, I'd just e-mail to him about it, but considering the nature of the problem, I felt it would be best to e-mail to him, as well as post to the mailing list as well as the Sonic and Sailor Moon newsgroups--the last due to it being a Sailor Moon fanfic, and the two former because Mr. Gonterman is well-known for his Sonic stories...also, as a comment about what *not* to do when trying to write a good fanfic... Very simply, Mr. Gonterman used that story as a platform to bash the people campaigning against the CDA (Which is the *Communications* Decency Act, BTW, not *Computer* as your story erroneously states) as well as the Blue Ribbon Campaign in particular, which is fighting for freedom of speech on the net. Judging from what was written, Mr. Gonterman has apparently done little or no research into the subject. But, at this point, that is irrelevant--I'd prefer to discuss the pros and cons of the CDA with him in a private forum. What *is* the problem, however, is using what up until then was a decent, if somewhat sub-par writing-wise, story as a soapbox to bash a group that you politically disagree with. Bashing people you know, like that group of AOLers that you had argued with, is tolerable, but bashing an entire group you've had no contact with at all is something else. A simple, polite suggestion to you, Mr. Gonterman...please edit that story to get rid of the political references, or at the very least, mark it on your site as politically-oriented as you did the other story that put forth your views on the CDA and as you keep refering to it, 'smut' on the net. Also, please at least take the time to look up the ACLU site, and read the information on just what the CDA is doing, as compared to what the media claims it was supposed to do. Along with the above, I give a caution to anyone else who might be thinking of including politics in their fanfics...please don't. Otherwise, the flames will probably become fast and furious. And there a lot of people with lower tolerance threshholds than me. Now that I've gotten the above out of the way, its my turn to get on the soapbox, and point out something the pro-CDA people may have overlooked--something that hits *very* close to home to both fandoms represented here. Fred (StH and Sailor Moon fan): It's time to watch Sailor Moon! (changes the channel..watches a bit) Fred: Waugh! Barney?!? What happened to Sailor Moon??? Me (looking over Fred's shoulder): Didn't you know? DIC was given a court order to re-edit Sailor Moon, or face prosecution under the CDA due to the 'indecent' scenes involving nudity. DIC couldn't afford the edit, so they just pulled the show entirely. Fred: *sigh* Oh well. Okay, let's turn over to USA--Sonic the Hedgehog should be on--at this point, I'd even choke down the weekday episodes. (click) Fred: AIEEEEE! More Barney! What happened??? Me: Oh, Sonic got pulled too--seems people started complaining about Sonic promoting terrorist activities, and such. The final killer, though, was another CDA violation--most of the characters were nude, or near enough to it to be indecent. I hear that Tom & Jerry Kids is next on the chopping block. Fred: But Barney never wears clothes... Me: True, but he has an 'educational show', which Sonic and Sailor Moon aren't. So he stays, and the others get tossed. Fred: *whimper* Think about it, folks... Chris Forsyth From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 20:03:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA08956 for sonic-ll; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 19:34:26 -0400 Received: from mail.usa.net (postoffice.usa.net [192.156.196.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id TAA08946 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 19:34:23 -0400 Received: from Zero.usa.net (port34.den1-annex.usa.net [165.212.158.134]) by mail.usa.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id RAA01395 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 17:34:17 -0600 Message-ID: <3171C378.42D9@usa.net> Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 21:33:12 -0600 From: Jim Graba X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0GoldB1 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Acceleration/Deacceleration/ Reality meets 'toon physics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Wed, 10 Apr 1996, ablater wrote: Main points: 1) Someone riding on Sonic's back COULD move above light-speed, provided one can do that without becoming energy and that rider was shielded from the wind. 2) Assuming Sonic accelerates to mach one (300m/s) in ten seconds, the rider would be subjected to 30m/s^2 (or three EARTH gees) 3) Assuming Sonic would deaccelerate from mach one to zero in three seconds(!), the rider would be subjected to -100m/s^2 (or ten EARTH gees) My responses: 1) This would also depend on Sonic. Not only would Sonic have to be shielded from the wind, but he would have to expend the infinite energy required to move at light speed. If he was able to use an organically-generated subspace warp field (like in Star Trek), he might be able to do this, but: -Air resistence is still a factor -I have a hard time believing that Sonic could generate a subspace warp field without equipment -Unless Sonic wanted to make himself pass out from too many gravities, he would have to accelerate slowly (even at 1000m/s^2, or 100 gees, it would take Sonic 3000 seconds to reach 300,000 m/s^2 (light speed)) -I think that even Sonic would have a hard time controlling his movements at higher speeds 2) I think that Airforce pilots are subjected to three gees and usually don't pass out. Even so, it would be hard to hold on AND not black-out. However, a rider would probably have some advantatges: -From what I can tell, most furries are one-half to three-fourths the heights of most Humans. This would lower their weight substantially, giving the rider less weight to carry during acceleration. I believe that the muscle-to-weight ratio would not decreace as much. -Most of the Knothole Freedom Fighters are probably pretty dang strong, even for their ages. Besides, a rider would only have to hold on for 10 seconds. -The reason that people black out at high gravities is because not enough blood is getting to their brain. I think that smaller animals have an advantage (shorter distances for the blood to travel) and that furries may have different anatomies. -Sure, Sonic can accelerate quickly WITHOUT a rider, but he might accelerate slower with twice his own weight. But then again, I don't have the cartoons (sniff), so I haven't seen him accelerate/deaccelerate much. 3) TEN GEES?! Um, the above arguments may give a passenger some leeway, but TEN GEES?! Well, Sonic would DEFINITELY have a hard time deaccelerating quickly here, so he may actually start slowing several minutes before the stop. A rider would probably black-out quickly here, but if it was quickly enough, they might keep conciousness (or just die, like falling off a building). One thing that would definitely help is if a gravity on Mobius is different from one of Earth's (but I doubt that). Kyle Graba, lurker e-mail: jgraba@usa.net From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 20:54:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA12814 for sonic-ll; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:23:07 -0400 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com (mail02.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.66]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA12806 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:23:03 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA08464 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:22:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:22:32 -0400 Message-ID: <960416202231_515374637@mail02.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: First, second car... ?! Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Um.. what was that car thing about? From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 21:28:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA12805 for sonic-ll; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:23:03 -0400 Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA12799 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:23:01 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA02346 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:22:29 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:22:29 -0400 Message-ID: <960416202229_515374611@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Pet Hedgehog Price Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net $10 bucks? Whoa! Cheapest I ever heard of was $75!!! Either that thing's really old, or the person that owns it doesn't know it's value. Hedgehogs are realy valuable, you know. But we're starting to get off subject (sorta). So I'll leave it at that. SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 21:31:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA12798 for sonic-ll; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:23:00 -0400 Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA12793 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:22:57 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA28373 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:22:26 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:22:26 -0400 Message-ID: <960416202225_515374572@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Fan-Fiction Short Stories Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net In a message dated 96-04-14 12:21:35 EDT, you write: >Mobius Apocalypse >Tired of reading Sonic fanfic? Want it to be over with? Hoping for some kind of >happy ending? I can't speak about the ending, but along the way to tying up all >those loose ends the residents of Knothole confront not only death but fates >worse than death. This is going to be one dark ride. Holy chili dogs! Does that story ever sound awesome. I'm sure that others agree..? SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 21:32:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA12823 for sonic-ll; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:23:15 -0400 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com (mail02.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.66]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA12818 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:23:12 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA08550 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:22:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:22:42 -0400 Message-ID: <960416202240_515374790@mail02.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: More stories... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Although it isn't finished yet, I am currently working VERY hard on this story (which will most definitely be listed under other stuff)... History Repeats Itself /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Over two-hundred and fifty years after Mobius became a free world, two "special" twin brothers are assigned to discover why so many people are disappearing. But when they finally find out what the cause is, they get in over their heads. This story also includes pictures developed from Windows 3.1 Paintbrush Program (bitmaps). NOTE: If you would like a more accurate description, please E-Mail me at: SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 21:54:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA17163 for sonic-ll; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 21:25:47 -0400 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA17158 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 21:25:41 -0400 Received: from terra.nlnet.nf.ca (terra.nlnet.nf.ca [192.75.13.101]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA20618 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 22:55:10 -0230 (NDT) Received: from n105h083.nlnet.nf.ca by terra.nlnet.nf.ca; (5.65/1.1.8.2/26Jan95-0807PM) id AA27904; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 22:55:04 -0230 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 22:55:04 -0230 Message-Id: <9604170125.AA27904@terra.nlnet.nf.ca> X-Sender: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (The Necromancer) Subject: Re: Fanfics and Politics don't mix. Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Me: Oh, Sonic got pulled too--seems people started complaining about >Sonic promoting terrorist activities, and such. The final killer, though, >was another CDA violation--most of the characters were nude, or near >enough to it to be indecent. I hear that Tom & Jerry Kids is next on the >chopping block. > >Fred: But Barney never wears clothes... > >Me: True, but he has an 'educational show', which Sonic and Sailor Moon >aren't. So he stays, and the others get tossed. > >Fred: *whimper* > > Think about it, folks... > Chris Forsyth Oh for (insert expletitive) sakes! Nude???? Ware they going to do next? Take Pinky & the Brain off the air because it promotes world domination? Let me guess, next they're going to make it a law that all animals on tv -- cartoon or real, will have to wear pants?????? And terrorist policies? Give me a break! Us tv viewers will never be safe until someone kicks that purple brainwashing slob off the air! And a certain string of non-ending Mighty Morphin Freak shows... ------------------------ The Necromancer lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca Pinky: Do you think you can fool them into thinking you're ` Napoleon? Brain: It will be a difficult ruse. They are expecting a tiny little megalomaniac who's bent on ruling the world. Instead they have me. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 17 00:45:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA07435 for sonic-ll; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 00:12:29 -0400 Received: from inet.uni-c.dk (inet.uni-c.dk [130.228.6.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA07429 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 00:12:26 -0400 Received: from arh128.ppp.uni-c.dk (arh128.ppp.uni-c.dk [130.228.13.128]) by inet.uni-c.dk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA07965 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 06:09:01 +0200 Received: by arh128.ppp.uni-c.dk with Microsoft Mail id <01BB2C24.CB829C80@arh128.ppp.uni-c.dk>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 06:12:02 +-200 Message-ID: <01BB2C24.CB829C80@arh128.ppp.uni-c.dk> From: Michael Emil Hansen To: "sonic@bort.mv.net" Subject: RE: Pet Hedgehog Price Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 06:07:25 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net ---------- From: SUPERSTH@aol.com[SMTP:SUPERSTH@aol.com] Sent: 17, april 1996 02.22 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Pet Hedgehog Price $10 bucks? Whoa! Cheapest I ever heard of was $75!!! Either that thing's really old, or the person that owns it doesn't know it's value. = Hedgehogs are realy valuable, you know. But we're starting to get off subject (sorta). = So I'll leave it at that. SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic Well if you don=B4t live in Denmark, thei are. If I want one, I can just = go out in my backyard, and get on. I think that there are aboud 4 or 5. =DA=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C2=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=BF =B3 ___------__ =B3 =C9=CD=CD=CD =C9=CD=CD=CD = =C9=CD=CD=BB =C9=CD=CD=BB =B3 =B3 |\__-- /\ _- =B3 =CC=CD=CD =CC=CD=CD =CD=CD = =BA =BA =B3 =B3 | / __ _ =B3 =CA =CA =C8=CD=CD=BC = =C8=CD=CD=BC =B3 =B3 //\ / \ /__ =B3 Knothole. = =B3 =B3 | o| 0|__ --_ =B3 = =B3 =B3 \\____-- __ \ ___ - =B3 Commander Sonic Data. = =B3 =B3 (@@ __/ / /_ =B3 E-mail soniccsd@inet.uni-c.dk = =B3 =B3 -_____--- --_ =B3 HTTP://inet.uni-c.dk/~soniccsd/ = =B3 =B3 =B3 ASCII Sonic by Han J. Lee = =B3 =C0=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C1=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=D9 From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 17 01:46:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA11392 for sonic-ll; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:28:51 -0400 Received: from saul5.u.washington.edu (lazuli@saul5.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA11387 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:28:48 -0400 Received: from localhost by saul5.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03098; Tue, 16 Apr 96 22:28:46 -0700 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 22:28:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Michael Sloniker To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: To the author of "Other Sonics"... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Can you drop me a line, please? I'd like to talk to you. (:3 ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer lazuli@u.washington.edu I have a wonderful frame of mind. I just don't have a picture. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 17 11:27:38 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA18091 for sonic-ll; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 11:00:04 -0400 Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA18060 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 10:59:53 -0400 Received: from COMPAQ ([203.120.80.30]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA7108 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:59:45 +0800 X-Sender: vicl@po.pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: vicl@pacific.net.sg (Lye Victor) Subject: Re : Sonic Fan Fiction Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:59:45 +0800 Message-ID: <19960417145944.AAA7108@COMPAQ> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net It's completed ! The sequel to my story "As the Wheel Turns" . It occurs almost immediately after the events in AtWT , with Sally thinking she's to blame for Mobius going to war again ... and guess who's job it is to persuade her otherwise ? Meanwhile , Mobotropolis is the target for the first strike of the forces loyal to Ari and his allies , but the attack comes from the place they least expect ... it would seem that Ari's forces have their own ... connections . Read the story . Enjoy . E-mail me for a copy ! vicl@pacific.net.sg Aaron Lye vicl@pacific.net.sg StH JJ1 WkS tFF Son++ Sal++ Tal+++t Bun++" Rot~ Ant++ Nic+ Dul+ UnC0 Bks+ Vil Rbk0 Snv--/+ Ext Knu+ Mut+ P+ Df $+++ E27 Ay78 GM From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 17 15:40:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA07751 for sonic-ll; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 15:13:01 -0400 Received: from kanga.INS.CWRU.Edu (hk512@kanga.INS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.8.32]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id PAA07744 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 15:12:56 -0400 Received: (hk512@localhost) by kanga.INS.CWRU.Edu (8.6.12+cwru/CWRU-2.1-bsdi) id PAA22380; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 15:12:10 -0400 (from hk512) Message-Id: <199604171912.PAA22380@kanga.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 15:12:10 -0400 From: hk512@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Delacroix) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Fanfic and Politics: A Response Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Having read the comments someone made about Gonterman's fanfic, and specifically the comments made about his anti-anti-CDA stance that was contained within it, I am driven to reply to it in a fashion which I reserve exclusively for such inflammatory prose. Sir, do you wish to say that you would take away David's right to free expression, just because it *supports* the limitation of said right? Do you not wish to support the total right of every American citizen to hold the feelings and thoughts reguarding politics that our Founding Fathers won in those hard years of the late 1700s? If you do, use every means at your disposal to force, cajole, coerce, and pretty much make David remove his political comments from his page. Also, please stop supporting the anti-CDA movement. It is obvious that you don't understand what free speech is to begin with. Some may ask themselves around now why I would be assisting someone like David, whose views I do not condone or support. The reason for my actions here are as simple as the monitor in front of your face; free speech, whether I agree with it or not, is something I would willingly die for. It is the right of every American: AOLer or Freenetter, Republican or Democrat, White or Black, or any other differing groups you can name. Sure, David's views chafe with mine. Mine chafe with him. That's what makes America great! Not the fact that we are alike, but the fact that we are DIFFERENT. In his own way, David is a patriot for having the guts to support an unpopular opinion in the face of massive (at least, within his peer group) resistance to it. He could have easily joined the crowd like some have done out of sheer instinct, without understanding the implications or the true meaning of 'free speech'. However, he followed his own beliefs (even though I find them to be odd) and did what he thought was right. In that respect, I salute him. However, my opinions of his are a bit less flattering, but this is neither the time or the place for such grandstanding. I leave you with these words to consider. If you have the BAM page censored, the Bookshire page could be next. If you have the KKK banned, the EFF could just as easily be next. If you have the Satanists banned, Jews could be next. If you have the Republicans banned, Democrats could be next. The splashing of water against cliffs causes houses to fall into the sea, as do small drops of censorship on part of the Constitution of the USA. Think about that before you tell someone that something should be removed because it offends you. Censor one group, and you start you censor the rest. Reply to me, not the list. Joe. -- FurryMUCK: furry.org 8888 (Joe_Fox) | Joseph deLaCroix hk512@po.cwru.edu SPR: svansmoj.ctrl-c.liu.se (Joe) | The CDA is bad. http://www.eff.com/ FT: 198.211.131.13 9999 (Joe) | StH Fanfic -- http://rat.org/bookshire FurryFuzz: yiff.azaccess.com 8888 | ObMedia: http://www.suck.com/ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 17 16:33:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA09507 for sonic-ll; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 15:43:53 -0400 Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA09494 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 15:43:49 -0400 From: RoBUTTnik@aol.com Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA21488 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 15:43:18 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 15:43:18 -0400 Message-ID: <960417154317_377267546@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Acceleration/Deacceleration/ Reality meets 'toon physics Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net I think mobius is a lot smaller then the earth, in fact about the size of the moon RoBUTTnik@aol.com Sth JJ1 Sal+++! Son++ Tal++t Wes++^ P+ $++++ E27 AG17 GM gotta speed keed From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 17 17:19:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA14559 for sonic-ll; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 16:44:48 -0400 Received: from ns.ge.com (ns.ge.com [192.35.39.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA14527 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 16:44:28 -0400 Received: from engr.erie.ge.com ([3.14.4.3]) by ns.ge.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA13720 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 16:43:00 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 16:42:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Ron Bauerle To: sonic@bort.mv.net CC: BAUERLE@engr.erie.ge.com Message-Id: <960417164253.42c@engr.erie.ge.com> Subject: Re: Fanfic and Politics: A Response Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >From: hk512@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Delacroix) I know you asked for replies to you not the list, but hopefully the following will be both relevant and short enough to be OK: >Having read the comments someone made about Gonterman's fanfic, and >specifically the comments made about his anti-anti-CDA stance >that was contained within it, I am driven to reply to it in a fashion >which I reserve exclusively for such inflammatory prose. That someone was Chris Forsyth, whom I'll be quoting in a bit... >Sir, do you wish to say that you would take away David's right to >free expression, just because it *supports* the limitation of said right? I'm sure Chris can speak for himself, but I think you misinterpreted him. Here's what he said: >> What *is* the problem, however, is using what up until then was a >>decent, if somewhat sub-par writing-wise, story as a soapbox to bash a >>group that you politically disagree with. Bashing people you know, like >>that group of AOLers that you had argued with, is tolerable, but bashing >>an entire group you've had no contact with at all is something else. >> A simple, polite suggestion to you, Mr. Gonterman...please edit that >>story to get rid of the political references, or at the very least, mark >>it on your site as politically-oriented as you did the other story that >>put forth your views on the CDA and as you keep refering to it, 'smut' on >>the net. Also, please at least take the time to look up the ACLU site, >>and read the information on just what the CDA is doing, as compared to >>what the media claims it was supposed to do. >> Along with the above, I give a caution to anyone else who might be >>thinking of including politics in their fanfics...please don't. >>Otherwise, the flames will probably become fast and furious. And there a >>lot of people with lower tolerance threshholds than me. Here's my short version of what Chris said: If you want to send a message, call Western Union. IMHO, the issue isn't free speech vs. censorship, but rather what's appropriate for fan-fic. Some people like/don't like TTBS/sex stuff in it, others like/don't like politics, or religion, or violence. My feeling is that people should be free to write what they want (I'll not get into the copyright/trademark aspect of it), but I suggested a while ago that somebody (preferably the authors) rate the fan-fic in terms of sex and violence so that people like myself who care for neither could skip it. Apparently this hasn't happened. You could argue that it's hard to know where to draw the line on these ratings; given the preceding two messages, we should at least add politics to the ratings, and a previous thread (either started or continued by me) implied grimness should be added. I suppose religion should be added too, though it's not usually relevant to most fan-fic, at least Sonic stuff... Just some more rambling, RDB From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 17 19:05:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA25371 for sonic-ll; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 18:57:50 -0400 Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA25351 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 18:57:19 -0400 Received: from pm1-ip74.vivanet.com by vivanet.vivanet.com id aa05580; 17 Apr 96 18:58 EDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960417225638.0069eaa0@mail.vivanet.com> X-Sender: mpenna@mail.vivanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 18:56:38 -0400 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: Re: Acceleration/Deacceleration/ Reality meets 'toon physics Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >I think mobius is a lot smaller then the earth, in fact about the size of the >moon Probably not, or else the force of gravity would be much less. Based on the way we've seen Sonic and all of the other freedom fighters move, the gravitational field of Mobius is probably pretty much identical to that of our own. However, it's possible that Mobius has some unique properties to it that we don't understand. Maybe there's something different about the gravity of the Mobian sun, as well as its surrounding planets, that could compensate for a smaller planetary mass in terms of the gravity field. ******************************************************************** * * "Once again we meet to exchange * * -=Matt Penna=- * valuable tangibles. * * E mail: mpenna@vivanet.com * Isn't this fun?!" * * Home Page Under Construction * -The Trademaster, * * * Star Control II * ******************************************************************** * StH JJ1 Wks+++ AdS->+ Son+++i Sal+++^ Tal+++it Bun++ Rot++ Ant~ * * UnC++ Bks++ Rbk--/++ Pck--/+++ Snv~ Knu++ P++ Da $++++ Ay79 GM * ******************************************************************** * Sonic the Hedgehog Chat on EFNet! * * Go to http://rat.org/sonic/irc/index.html for details * * My IRC nick: MilesProw #sonic channel master * ******************************************************************** From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 17 21:44:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA04621 for sonic-ll; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 21:16:55 -0400 Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA04615 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 21:16:51 -0400 Received: from pm2-ip110.vivanet.com by vivanet.vivanet.com id aa16465; 17 Apr 96 21:15 EDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960418011253.006ac83c@mail.vivanet.com> X-Sender: mpenna@mail.vivanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 21:12:53 -0400 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: Sonic IRC session time decided Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Well, even though we had less than 10% turnout, the time for "official" Sonic the Hedgehog chat sessions has been decided through popular vote. The majority of the votes went to 8PM on Saturdays. So, official chat sessions will be held every Saturday night from 8PM to 9PM. If you can only come on EFNet to chat once a week, then this is the time to come. I hope to see many of you there. Once again, I am on the channel almost every night and you're welcome to come by anytime. If you have questions about the chat sessions or about IRC in general, please visit the Sonic chat Home Page at: http://rat.org/sonic/irc/index.html Everything that you need to know is there. However, if you're confused about something or are having problems, please feel free to contact me by E-mail and I'll do my best to help you. To reiterate one final time, do not send any questions about chat to the list or to Ratman. Send them to me only. Thanks everybody! Come and chat with us! ******************************************************************** * * "Once again we meet to exchange * * -=Matt Penna=- * valuable tangibles. * * E mail: mpenna@vivanet.com * Isn't this fun?!" * * Home Page Under Construction * -The Trademaster, * * * Star Control II * ******************************************************************** * StH JJ1 Wks+++ AdS->+ Son+++i Sal+++^ Tal+++it Bun++ Rot++ Ant~ * * UnC++ Bks++ Rbk--/++ Pck--/+++ Snv~ Knu++ P++ Da $++++ Ay79 GM * ******************************************************************** * Sonic the Hedgehog Chat on EFNet! * * Go to http://rat.org/sonic/irc/index.html for details * * My IRC nick: MilesProw #sonic channel master * ******************************************************************** From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 17 21:59:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA05093 for sonic-ll; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 21:30:55 -0400 Received: from kanga.INS.CWRU.Edu (hk512@kanga.INS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.8.32]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA05083 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 21:30:46 -0400 Received: (hk512@localhost) by kanga.INS.CWRU.Edu (8.6.12+cwru/CWRU-2.1-bsdi) id VAA09152; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 21:29:24 -0400 (from hk512) Message-Id: <199604180129.VAA09152@kanga.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 21:29:24 -0400 From: hk512@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Delacroix) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Fanfic and Politics: A Response Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net You said: >>From: hk512@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Delacroix) > >I know you asked for replies to you not the list, but hopefully the >following will be both relevant and short enough to be OK: Well, the only reason I said to send it to me was because I fear the wrath of Ratman. Otherwise, I'd go ahead and send everything to the list I damn well pleased. =) However, I think replying directly to the list this time won't bother anyone, either. If anyone does mind, however, make your voice known, and I'll reply directly to everyone from now on. [deletae] >>Sir, do you wish to say that you would take away David's right to >>free expression, just because it *supports* the limitation of said right? > >I'm sure Chris can speak for himself, but I think you misinterpreted him. I might have over-reacted a tad, but I believe that my interpetation of the point that he was sending to me was valid. (See below) >Here's what he said: [deletae] >Here's my short version of what Chris said: > >If you want to send a message, call Western Union. > >IMHO, the issue isn't free speech vs. censorship, but rather what's >appropriate for fan-fic. Some people like/don't like TTBS/sex stuff in it, >others like/don't like politics, or religion, or violence. My feeling is >that people should be free to write what they want (I'll not get into the >copyright/trademark aspect of it), but I suggested a while ago that >somebody (preferably the authors) rate the fan-fic in terms of sex and >violence so that people like myself who care for neither could skip it. >Apparently this hasn't happened. Well, that's a pretty challenging thing to do, considering that everyone's view of certain factors is different. It's hard to find impartial people to do that sort of thing. (Besides, it's a pain in the rear to do! =) However, in my eyes, the issue is not only `what's appropriate for fanfic' but also `what's appropriate, period'. Of course, I have, of late, bcome rather annoyed with people who SAY they back the anti-CDA movement, but at the same time try to censor something THEY don't like. THAT's what irks me, and THAT is what I responded to. The other things just happened to follow along as supporting elements...man, I must have said those words a thousand times to a thousand people over the last few months. >You could argue that it's hard to know where to draw the line on these >ratings; given the preceding two messages, we should at least add politics >to the ratings, and a previous thread (either started or continued by me) >implied grimness should be added. I suppose religion should be added too, >though it's not usually relevant to most fan-fic, at least Sonic stuff... Well, to tell the truth `rating' literature has always been something of a heartburn-inducing thing with me. I don't like the idea of a book (or a story) being judged by others to be "bad" or "good" because of X amount of sex or X amount of politics in it. I know that wasn't your intent, but that's how people seem to judge the ratings in movies sometimes. But hey, I'm not saying *I'm* right. I just happen to have a strong dislike of rating things because of X variable...I believe that the content of a story, not a property of it, determines its value. Of course, the film industry's been using it for ages now. Maybe I'm just old-fashioned. >Just some more rambling, > >RDB Joe. -- FurryMUCK: furry.org 8888 (Joe_Fox) | Joseph deLaCroix hk512@po.cwru.edu SPR: svansmoj.ctrl-c.liu.se (Joe) | The CDA is bad. http://www.eff.com/ FT: 198.211.131.13 9999 (Joe) | StH Fanfic -- http://rat.org/bookshire FurryFuzz: yiff.azaccess.com 8888 | ObMedia: http://www.suck.com/ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 17 23:02:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA08937 for sonic-ll; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:20:01 -0400 Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com (emout19.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.45]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA08925 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:19:58 -0400 From: RoBUTTnik@aol.com Received: by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA18066 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:19:27 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:19:27 -0400 Message-ID: <960417221925_193310061@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Pet Hedgehog Price Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net the reason Id get the hedgehog for so cheap is because my friends uncle owns a pet shop that specialises in exatic animals, and hed sell it to me deep discount. RoBUTTnik@aol.com Sth JJ1 Sal+++! Son++ Tal++t Wes++^ P+ $++++ E27 AG17 GM gotta speed keed From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 17 23:23:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA09452 for sonic-ll; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:33:53 -0400 Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA09445 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:33:51 -0400 Received: from pm2-ip110.vivanet.com by vivanet.vivanet.com id aa23290; 17 Apr 96 22:35 EDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960418023306.006a6764@mail.vivanet.com> X-Sender: mpenna@mail.vivanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:33:06 -0400 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: Re: Sonic IRC session time decided Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >So, official chat sessions will be held every Saturday night from 8PM to >9PM. If you can only come on EFNet to chat once a week, then this is the >time to come. I hope to see many of you there. Whoops. I apologize. I wasn't specific enough. That's 8PM to 9PM Eastern Standard Time. If you're in California, it would be 5PM to 6PM Pacific Standard Time. Sorry about any confusion I may have caused. ******************************************************************** * * "Once again we meet to exchange * * -=Matt Penna=- * valuable tangibles. * * E mail: mpenna@vivanet.com * Isn't this fun?!" * * Home Page Under Construction * -The Trademaster, * * * Star Control II * ******************************************************************** * StH JJ1 Wks+++ AdS->+ Son+++i Sal+++^ Tal+++it Bun++ Rot++ Ant~ * * UnC++ Bks++ Rbk--/++ Pck--/+++ Snv~ Knu++ P++ Da $++++ Ay79 GM * ******************************************************************** * Sonic the Hedgehog Chat on EFNet! * * Go to http://rat.org/sonic/irc/index.html for details * * My IRC nick: MilesProw #sonic channel master * ******************************************************************** From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 17 23:54:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA13688 for sonic-ll; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 23:45:06 -0400 Received: from tsb.weschke.com (foxfire@tsb.weschke.com [204.91.224.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA13656 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 23:45:02 -0400 Received: (from foxfire@localhost) by tsb.weschke.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id XAA24731; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 23:45:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 23:45:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Forsyth To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Fanfic and Politics: A Response In-Reply-To: <199604180129.VAA09152@kanga.INS.CWRU.Edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Well, had a short chat with Joe about this on FurryFuzz. (BTW, for those of you who play the MU*s, I'm Vulpis Foxfire on FurryMUCK, Tapestries, FurryFuzz, and few LP-style MUDS. The Vulpis on SPR, however, is *not* me.) He misunderstood my intent in that post, which was *not* censorship. It was more a matter of appropriateness of what was put in the story, compounded by the fact that as far as I can tell from the story, David has little or no knowledge about the Blue Ribbon Campaign. I quite agree that David has the freedom to write whatever he wants to. But on the other hand, I'd appreciate some sort of warning when he plans to go into soapbox mode--something akin to the *flame on* lines some people insert into their postings. ;-) Hmph. I *really* need to get my Amiga sorted out the way I want it, so I can sit down and write some my own fanfic...though a Meeting of the Foxfires seems appropriate--Cyber-redneck meets the Fiery Fox. Yeef. ;-) Chris Forsyth From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 00:08:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA16237 for sonic-ll; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 23:57:23 -0400 Received: from inet.uni-c.dk (inet.uni-c.dk [130.228.6.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA16224 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 23:57:16 -0400 Received: from arh139.ppp.uni-c.dk (arh139.ppp.uni-c.dk [130.228.13.139]) by inet.uni-c.dk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA06363 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 05:53:50 +0200 Received: by arh139.ppp.uni-c.dk with Microsoft Mail id <01BB2CEB.CB242160@arh139.ppp.uni-c.dk>; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 05:56:31 +-200 Message-ID: <01BB2CEB.CB242160@arh139.ppp.uni-c.dk> From: Michael Emil Hansen To: "sonic@bort.mv.net" Subject: RE: Acceleration/Deacceleration/ Reality meets 'toon physics Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 05:50:48 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net ---------- From: RoBUTTnik@aol.com[SMTP:RoBUTTnik@aol.com] Sent: 17, april 1996 21.43 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Acceleration/Deacceleration/ Reality meets 'toon physics I think mobius is a lot smaller then the earth, in fact about the size = of the moon RoBUTTnik@aol.com Sth JJ1 Sal+++! Son++ Tal++t Wes++^ P+ $++++ E27 AG17 GM gotta speed keed Forget it. =DA=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C2=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=BF =B3 ___------__ =B3 =C9=CD=CD=CD =C9=CD=CD=CD = =C9=CD=CD=BB =C9=CD=CD=BB =B3 =B3 |\__-- /\ _- =B3 =CC=CD=CD =CC=CD=CD =CD=CD = =BA =BA =B3 =B3 | / __ _ =B3 =CA =CA =C8=CD=CD=BC = =C8=CD=CD=BC =B3 =B3 //\ / \ /__ =B3 Knothole. = =B3 =B3 | o| 0|__ --_ =B3 = =B3 =B3 \\____-- __ \ ___ - =B3 Commander Sonic Data. = =B3 =B3 (@@ __/ / /_ =B3 E-mail soniccsd@inet.uni-c.dk = =B3 =B3 -_____--- --_ =B3 HTTP://INET.UNI-C.DK/~SONICCSD/ = =B3 =B3 =B3 ASCII Sonic by Han J. Lee = =B3 =C0=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C1=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=D9 From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 14:12:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA19192 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 13:16:43 -0400 Received: (rat@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA19186; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 13:16:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 13:16:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Fanfic and Politics: A Response In-Reply-To: <199604180129.VAA09152@kanga.INS.CWRU.Edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Wed, 17 Apr 1996, Joseph Delacroix wrote: > Well, the only reason I said to send it to me was because I fear > the wrath of Ratman. Otherwise, I'd go ahead and send everything to > the list I damn well pleased. =) Don't fear me anymore. I really don't care anymore. But you'll piss a lot of people off by writing things off topic, not just me. Did you notice all those stupid message by RoBUTTnik@aol.com that I let go by? > However, I think replying > directly to the list this time won't bother anyone, either. If > anyone does mind, however, make your voice known, and I'll reply directly > to everyone from now on. This is a completely off topic thread. Or maybe you don't care about other people. People subscribed to this list to talk about Sonic. Think about how mad you'd be if I started posting "make money fast" and other spam to this list. Then if you complained, i'd say, "well some people might care about it!". SAME THING! Just because YOU want to talk about it, doesn't make it right to do so. There have been plenty of times where I wanted to talk about some things, but refrained from doing it on the list. But I'm not really the list admin, so if you don't give a damn about other people, go ahead. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 14:57:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA23249 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 14:01:23 -0400 Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA23243 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 14:01:16 -0400 Received: from COMPAQ ([203.120.81.47]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA13099 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 02:01:07 +0800 X-Sender: vicl@po.pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: vicl@pacific.net.sg (Lye Victor) Subject: Fan Fic Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 02:01:07 +0800 Message-ID: <19960418180106.AAA13099@COMPAQ> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hi ! This is Aaron again . Just a short note to inform you that "No Peace in Our Time" , my sequel to "As the Wheel Turns" has just been released , and you can either e-mail me for a copy at vicl@pacific.net.sg or read it at the Freedom Fighters Command Central (http://inet.uni-c.dk/~soniccsd/) . Enjoy . Those of you who have sent requests for my stories or e-mails during the last 48 hours , please hang on . Due to unforseen circumstances , I'll will only be receiving them tomorrow . Sorry for the delay . Here's a short description of No Peace . It occurs almost immediately after the events in AtWT , with Sally thinking she's to blame for Mobius going to war again ... and guess who's job it is to persuade her otherwise ? Meanwhile , Mobotropolis is the target for the first strike of the forces loyal to Ari and his allies , but the attack comes from the place they least expect ... it would seem that Ari's forces have their own ... connections . Read it ! __________________________________________________________________________ Aaron Lye vicl@pacific.net.sg __________________________________________________________________________ StH JJ1 WkS+++ Son++ Sal++ Tal+++t Bun++" Rot~ Ant++ Nic+ Dul+ UnC0 Bks+ Rbk0 Snv--/+ Knu+ Mut+ P+ Df $+++ E27 Ay78 GM __________________________________________________________________________ This came from Singapore , the "Lion City"... __________________________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 19:11:59 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA15890 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 18:35:26 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA15876 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 18:35:22 -0400 Received: from ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.41]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA21506 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 15:38:45 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 15:38:45 -0700 Message-Id: <199604182238.PAA21506@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Pet Hedgehog Price Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 10:19 PM 4/17/96 -0400, you wrote: >the reason Id get the hedgehog for so cheap is because my friends uncle owns >a pet shop that specialises in exatic animals, and hed sell it to me deep >discount. > >RoBUTTnik@aol.com > >Sth JJ1 Sal+++! Son++ Tal++t Wes++^ P+ $++++ E27 AG17 GM > >gotta speed keed > > Hrmph! Lucky lucky. I say you get all the stuff you need and buy it when you get a chance.] -Chris F. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 19:12:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA16067 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 18:39:51 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA16049 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 18:39:25 -0400 Received: from ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.41]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA21563 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 15:42:50 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 15:42:50 -0700 Message-Id: <199604182242.PAA21563@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Sonic IRC session time decided Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 10:33 PM 4/17/96 -0400, you wrote: >>So, official chat sessions will be held every Saturday night from 8PM to >>9PM. If you can only come on EFNet to chat once a week, then this is the >>time to come. I hope to see many of you there. > >Whoops. I apologize. I wasn't specific enough. That's 8PM to 9PM Eastern >Standard Time. If you're in California, it would be 5PM to 6PM Pacific >Standard Time. Sorry about any confusion I may have caused. > It's ok. I was 'bout to ask that, anyway. Gracias (thanks). > >******************************************************************** >* * "Once again we meet to exchange * >* -=Matt Penna=- * valuable tangibles. * >* E mail: mpenna@vivanet.com * Isn't this fun?!" * >* Home Page Under Construction * -The Trademaster, * >* * Star Control II * >******************************************************************** >* StH JJ1 Wks+++ AdS->+ Son+++i Sal+++^ Tal+++it Bun++ Rot++ Ant~ * >* UnC++ Bks++ Rbk--/++ Pck--/+++ Snv~ Knu++ P++ Da $++++ Ay79 GM * >******************************************************************** >* Sonic the Hedgehog Chat on EFNet! * >* Go to http://rat.org/sonic/irc/index.html for details * >* My IRC nick: MilesProw #sonic channel master * >******************************************************************** > > -Chris Flinn A 'Buttnik AND Snitvolly AND Bot Kicker for Earth and Mobius dflinn@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 19:51:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA20177 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:47 -0400 Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA20157 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:41 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA01310 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:11 -0400 Message-ID: <960418192208_473051978@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: The Sonic Anime Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Uh... these pictures aren't from the diehard GameFan mag, are they? From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 19:51:47 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA20187 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:48 -0400 Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA20158 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:42 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA20383 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:11 -0400 Message-ID: <960418192210_473051997@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic pogs Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Huh... well, 'round here, there are NO boxes left with Sonic pogs in them. Now I just eat Pop Tarts... they taste better, N E wayz. SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 20:11:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA20143 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:37 -0400 Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com (emout13.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.39]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA20137 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:35 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA25227 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:04 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:04 -0400 Message-ID: <960418192203_473051922@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sally might have some Competition Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Oooh... interesting... but did you hear that Sega is thinking of dumping Sonic? Even if you already have, it $ucks incredibly... and to confirm it I called Sega and asked... THEY SAID IT WAS TRUE!!!!!!! SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 20:34:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA20208 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:54 -0400 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com (emout08.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.23]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA20183 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:48 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA01956 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:17 -0400 Message-ID: <960418192217_473052064@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re:interview with Yuji Naka Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca wrote... >You've obviously never heard of the Mario Bros. HOW DARE YOU MENTION THAT DISGUSTING...... (let me find the word)..... THING..... ON THIS LIST?!?! Almost made me friggin' puke!!!! SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 20:35:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA20185 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:48 -0400 Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com (emout14.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.40]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA20160 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:42 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA00837 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:11 -0400 Message-ID: <960418192211_473052009@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Stories Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Someone else is uploading stories? Huh... well, mine's gonna take a while before it's done (I'm drawing artwork for it right now). Guess I'll just wait till it's done, read it over to see if it's boring or good, and then say more 'bout it. SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 20:44:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA20159 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:42 -0400 Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com (emout19.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.45]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA20149 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:39 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@Aol.Com Received: by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA19529 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:09 -0400 Message-ID: <960418192208_473051965@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Why are we talking 'bout SPAM? Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net I have no idea, but since I started it I may as well finish it... people might be grossed out by this but it's not gross... ever tried a chili dog with Spam as a substitute for meat? It's pretty good... but I DO perfer the real thing. SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 20:48:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA20207 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:53 -0400 Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA20176 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:46 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA01349 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:16 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:16 -0400 Message-ID: <960418192215_473052052@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: interview with Yuji Naka Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Well, Hidden Palace was in the final program... you just... didn't do anything if you got there (through a ProActionReplay code). You just..died. But that brings up a REALLY good question... I wonder what it originally looked like? You know, before they ditched it? Hmmm....... SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 20:56:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA20153 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:40 -0400 Received: from emout17.mail.aol.com (emout17.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.43]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA20144 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:38 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA10755 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:22:08 -0400 Message-ID: <960418192206_473051948@emout17.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Sonic Archie Comics Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net I just wanted to say something, so here goes... I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT SOME OF YOU SAY THAT YOU TRY TO GET COMICS AND THEN THEY SELL OUT!!! Where I live, no one even CARRIES Sonic comics, and that TICKS ME OFF!! I have to especially order it (I don't think Archie knows, or even really cares [heck, maybe they do] that I'm their main buyer in my COUNTY 'cause I go all over purchasing about three copies OR MORE of every issue for collector's purposes). Speaking of comics.... my science teacher took away my Super Sonic vs. Hyper Knuckles comic in class. I was done with all of my work, too!! Talk about a major bummer... and that was the only reading copy that I had!! :-( SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 21:25:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA26146 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 20:47:16 -0400 Received: from sonic.segaoa.com (sonic.segaoa.com [198.176.13.13]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA26112; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 20:47:12 -0400 Received: from blackhole.segaoa.com by sonic.segaoa.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA06702; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 17:50:42 +0800 Received: by blackhole.segaoa.com with Microsoft Mail id <3176E2EA@blackhole.segaoa.com>; Thu, 18 Apr 96 17:48:42 PDT From: "Wallis, Mike" To: "'owner-sonic@bort.mv.net'" , Sonic mailing list Subject: Re: Sally might have some Competition Date: Thu, 18 Apr 96 17:48:00 PDT Message-Id: <3176E2EA@blackhole.segaoa.com> Encoding: 22 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 content-length: 685 Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Oooh... interesting... but did you hear that Sega is thinking of dumping >Sonic? Even if you already have, it $ucks incredibly... and to confirm it I >called Sega and asked... >THEY SAID IT WAS TRUE!!!!!!! Sorry, but you are mistaken. Sega is planning no such thing. In fact, this year is Sonic's 5th anniversary, and Sega is planning a big bash at the E3 Show in Los Angeles during May. Let me state this again so there is no miscommunication: SEGA IS NOT PLANNING TO DUMP SONIC. We are featuring him in multiple games across multiple platforms this year. In fact, this could be one of Sonic's biggest years ever! Stay tuned... -Mike Wallis Producer, Sonic Saturn From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 21:58:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA25303 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 20:43:26 -0400 Received: from ds1.gl.umbc.edu (root@ds1.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.3.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA25298 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 20:43:24 -0400 Received: from rpa13.gl.umbc.edu (cmugg1@rpa13.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.61.103]) by ds1.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA27694 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 20:43:11 -0400 Received: (cmugg1@localhost) by rpa13.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA06624; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 20:43:21 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 20:43:21 -0400 (EDT) From: mugg charles To: sonic@bort.mv.net cc: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: The Sonic Anime In-Reply-To: <960418192208_473051978@emout07.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 SUPERSTH@aol.com wrote: Kiken here, yep, the pics are from DieHard. If I get anymore, perhaps from NewType or V Jump, I'll post them too. As I said before, for those who hadn't seen the issue, remember, not everyone on the list reads Diehard, in fact, some of the people here aren't even in the US. Ok? > Uh... these pictures aren't from the diehard GameFan mag, are they? > Kiken signing off. ASOBIWA...OWARIDA! Sayonara. This message from the Baltimore Ronin, homepage at: http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~cmugg1 Ikuze! /---/ |\ /\ "To live a life of power, / / | \ / \ you must have faith in what you / / | / / \ believe, even if others tell you ------- |/ /------\ you are wrong; / __ |\ __|__ The first step to living a life of / | | | \ | | | power is to find courage, you must / | _| | / |__|__| be prepared to reach beyond the / |_____| |/ | boundaries of time itself; | / \ And to do that, all you need is the will to take that very first step." Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 22:07:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA29168 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:40:47 -0400 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA29163 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:40:39 -0400 Received: from terra.nlnet.nf.ca (terra.nlnet.nf.ca [192.75.13.101]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA19238 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:10:32 -0230 (NDT) Received: from n105h083.nlnet.nf.ca by terra.nlnet.nf.ca; (5.65/1.1.8.2/26Jan95-0807PM) id AA21829; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:10:28 -0230 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:10:28 -0230 Message-Id: <9604190140.AA21829@terra.nlnet.nf.ca> X-Sender: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (The Necromancer) Subject: Re: Why are we talking 'bout SPAM? Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >I have no idea, but since I started it I may as well finish it... people >might be grossed out by this but it's not gross... ever tried a chili dog >with Spam as a substitute for meat? It's pretty good... but I DO perfer the >real thing. > >SUPER STH@aol.com > >"Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic Ever try a SPAMburger? *HURK!* ------------------------ The Necromancer lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca "The robb'd who smiles, takes something away from the thief." -William Shakespear From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 22:10:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA26941 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 20:59:13 -0400 Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA26930 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 20:59:08 -0400 Received: from pm2-ip111.vivanet.com by vivanet.vivanet.com id aa06060; 18 Apr 96 21:00 EDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960419005827.006ab868@mail.vivanet.com> X-Sender: mpenna@mail.vivanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 20:58:27 -0400 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: Re: Sally might have some Competition Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Oooh... interesting... but did you hear that Sega is thinking of dumping >Sonic? Even if you already have, it $ucks incredibly... and to confirm it I >called Sega and asked... I know that they were planning on scaling back projects that involved Sonic, but dumping him? They're going to get rid of him entirely? What exactly did they tell you? I'd really like to know what they have in mind. Is this strictly from a video game standpoint? (If it is, then DON'T post a reply to the list. You can write to me directly.) I hope this doesn't mean the end of the comics as well. That would make it a catastrophe! ******************************************************************** * * "Once again we meet to exchange * * -=Matt Penna=- * valuable tangibles. * * E mail: mpenna@vivanet.com * Isn't this fun?!" * * Home Page Under Construction * -The Trademaster, * * * Star Control II * ******************************************************************** * StH JJ1 Wks+++ AdS->+ Son+++i Sal+++^ Tal+++it Bun++ Rot++ Ant~ * * UnC++ Bks++ Rbk--/++ Pck--/+++ Snv~ Knu++ P++ Da $++++ Ay79 GM * ******************************************************************** * Sonic the Hedgehog Chat on EFNet! * * Go to http://rat.org/sonic/irc/index.html for details * * My IRC nick: MilesProw #sonic channel master * ******************************************************************** From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 22:16:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA28676 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:25:06 -0400 Received: from iwaynet.iwaynet.net (iwaynet.iwaynet.net [198.30.29.7]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA28666 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:25:01 -0400 Received: from port216.iwaynet.net (port216.iwaynet.net [198.30.29.216]) by iwaynet.iwaynet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA20378 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:22:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:22:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199604190122.VAA20378@iwaynet.iwaynet.net> X-Sender: eggleton@iwaynet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: "Knuck's/Kulock" Subject: Re: Sally might have some Competition Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 07:22 PM 4/18/96 -0400, you wrote: >Oooh... interesting... but did you hear that Sega is thinking of dumping >Sonic? Even if you already have, it $ucks incredibly... and to confirm it I >called Sega and asked... > >THEY SAID IT WAS TRUE!!!!!!! > >SUPER STH@aol.com > >"Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic > > SOA?Those idiots.. It's not likely..after the powerhouses (Sonic the Fighters, VSonic and that 3rd SOnic one) come into play..there'll be NO doubt that they won't drop him for much of aything.. Besides, you can't really rely on SOA, they usually don't know much of what's going on.. I shall never forgive them for Spinball...:P -Knuck's/Kulock From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 22:29:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA28999 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:35:30 -0400 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA28994 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:35:28 -0400 Received: from terra.nlnet.nf.ca (terra.nlnet.nf.ca [192.75.13.101]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA01081 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:05:26 -0230 (NDT) Received: from n105h083.nlnet.nf.ca by terra.nlnet.nf.ca; (5.65/1.1.8.2/26Jan95-0807PM) id AA26620; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:05:22 -0230 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:05:22 -0230 Message-Id: <9604190135.AA26620@terra.nlnet.nf.ca> X-Sender: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (The Necromancer) Subject: Re:interview with Yuji Naka Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca wrote... > >>You've obviously never heard of the Mario Bros. > >HOW DARE YOU MENTION THAT DISGUSTING...... (let me find the word)..... >THING..... ON THIS LIST?!?! Almost made me friggin' puke!!!! > >SUPER STH@aol.com > >"Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic Well geez, I kinda like their games. Not as good as Sonic, but still good. I just think that Mario's fat. MARIOMARIOMARIOLUIGIMARIOMARIOMARIO ------------------------ The Necromancer lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca "The robb'd who smiles, takes something away from the thief." -William Shakespear From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 22:37:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA28458 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:17:15 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.4.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA28453 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:17:11 -0400 Received: from sun-5.cae.wisc.edu (sun-5.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.69.181]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with ESMTP id UAA00225 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 20:17:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from firmiss@localhost) by sun-5.cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) id UAA03833; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 20:17:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 20:16:59 -0500 (CDT) From: James Firmiss To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sally might have some Competition In-Reply-To: <960418192203_473051922@emout13.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 SUPERSTH@aol.com wrote: > Oooh... interesting... but did you hear that Sega is thinking of dumping > Sonic? Even if you already have, it $ucks incredibly... and to confirm it I > called Sega and asked... > > THEY SAID IT WAS TRUE!!!!!!! Really? This is news to me! The last time I talked with Sega Reps via e-mail about a new Sonic game (about 3 or 4 months ago) they couldn't confirm or deny anything about a game but said something to the effect of "Sonic is an important part of Sega's image. He'll be sticking around." One question _I_ have is if this IS true and Sega drops Sonic, will Archie Comics continue with their Sonic series? [ Does Archie 'NEED' Sega's support or does Archie's Sonic have a 'life of its own' ]. -- James Firmiss firmiss@cae.wisc.edu @[=g3,8d]\&fbb=-q]/hk%fg" From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 22:52:45 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA29486 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:45:16 -0400 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA29478 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:45:14 -0400 Received: from iwaynet.iwaynet.net (iwaynet.iwaynet.net [198.30.29.7]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with ESMTP id VAA17274 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:45:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from port216.iwaynet.net (port216.iwaynet.net [198.30.29.216]) by iwaynet.iwaynet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA21363 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199604190141.VAA21363@iwaynet.iwaynet.net> X-Sender: eggleton@iwaynet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: "Knuck's/Kulock" Subject: Re: interview with Yuji Naka Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 07:22 PM 4/18/96 -0400, you wrote: >Well, Hidden Palace was in the final program... you just... didn't do >anything if you got there (through a ProActionReplay code). You just..died. >But that brings up a REALLY good question... I wonder what it originally >looked like? You know, before they ditched it? Hmmm....... > >SUPER STH@aol.com > >"Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic > Oh yes..could you post the code on the list?It'd be interesting to see... -Knuck's/Kulock the Ech..eh..you've heard it already.. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 23:17:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA02234 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:08:08 -0400 Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com (emout15.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.41]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA02189 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:08:03 -0400 From: SonicKC@aol.com Received: by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA06948 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:07:32 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:07:32 -0400 Message-ID: <960418220732_193959395@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: More stories... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net All right, since everyone else is going to advertise their stories, I might as well too... These aren't finished yet, but I'm working hard on them. 1# Flamestar's Revenge This is really a Knuckles story, but I think it's pretty good... Knuckles has been having mysterious dreams lately that all have the same theme: his old enemy planning revenge. He dissmisses them at first, but when a dark secret from his past returns to haunt him, he is forced to face up to his past and defend his title of Guardian of the Floating Island. 2# Hearts of Steel After the destruction of Dr. Robotnik in the explosion of the Doomsday Project, the robot known as Mecha-Sonic is freed from Robotnik's tyranny. Finding himself lost and alone in a world that hates and fears him, he finally thinks he has found his place with the Freedom Fighters. But when a terrible misunderstanding causes the Freedom Fighters to banish him, he must prove to them that he really has changed...but will it take a tragedy for them to see the truth? I'll let everyone know as soon as these are finished. ;-) Sonic KC From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 23:17:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA03300 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:33:10 -0400 Received: from mail (root@canal.iaw.on.ca [204.225.37.33]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA03286 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:33:04 -0400 Received: from nb1-48.iaw.on.ca by mail with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0uA60a-000bC3C; Thu, 18 Apr 96 22:33 EDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 18 Apr 96 22:33 EDT X-Sender: butcher@iaw.on.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: butcher@iaw.on.ca (Paul Lapensee) Subject: Re: Sally might have some Competition Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > >>Oooh... interesting... but did you hear that Sega is thinking of dumping >>Sonic? Even if you already have, it $ucks incredibly... and to confirm it I >>called Sega and asked... > >>THEY SAID IT WAS TRUE!!!!!!! > > >Sorry, but you are mistaken. > >Sega is planning no such thing. In fact, this year is Sonic's 5th >anniversary, and Sega is planning a big bash at the E3 Show in Los Angeles >during May. > >Let me state this again so there is no miscommunication: SEGA IS NOT >PLANNING TO DUMP SONIC. We are featuring him in multiple games across >multiple platforms this year. In fact, this could be one of Sonic's biggest >years ever! Stay tuned... > > > -Mike Wallis >Producer, Sonic Saturn > Multiple games. Like short aperances in other Sega games.. That has already been done. I am still wating for SONIC PC.. Win 95 only Noooooo... From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 23:30:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA06465 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:06:15 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net (acme@use.usit.net [199.1.48.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA06460 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:06:12 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA11308; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:06:07 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:06:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) Team OS/2" To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Why are we talking 'bout SPAM? In-Reply-To: <960418192208_473051965@emout19.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: Organization: Rebel Alliance of Mobius MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 SUPERSTH@Aol.Com wrote: > I have no idea, but since I started it I may as well finish it... people Now let's let this be the end. We don't need more net.spam or talk about it. Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog StH JJ1 Son+ Sal++ Tal++++t Nic+i Rot+i Lup+ P++ Dopw $+++ E25 Ay68 Mail: acme@use.usit.net | WWW: http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~eschulma From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 23:48:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA05289 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:59:20 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net (acme@use.usit.net [199.1.48.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA05284 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:59:16 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA10054; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:59:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:59:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) Team OS/2" To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Pet Hedgehog Price In-Reply-To: <199604182238.PAA21506@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> Message-ID: Organization: Rebel Alliance of Mobius MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net This thread has gone completely outside the purpose of this list, discussion of Sonic. You may continue the thread in private e-mail. If you have an interest in this topic, please refer to rec.animals.wildlife. On Thu, 18 Apr 1996, Dan wrote: > At 10:19 PM 4/17/96 -0400, you wrote: > >the reason Id get the hedgehog for so cheap is because my friends uncle owns > >a pet shop that specialises in exatic animals, and hed sell it to me deep > >discount. > > > >RoBUTTnik@aol.com > > > >Sth JJ1 Sal+++! Son++ Tal++t Wes++^ P+ $++++ E27 AG17 GM > > > >gotta speed keed > > > > > Hrmph! Lucky lucky. I say you get all the stuff you need and buy > it when you get a chance.] > > -Chris F. > > Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog StH JJ1 Son+ Sal++ Tal++++t Nic+i Rot+i Lup+ P++ Dopw $+++ E25 Ay68 Mail: acme@use.usit.net | WWW: http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~eschulma From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 23:50:38 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA06830 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:11:29 -0400 Received: from vivanet.vivanet.com (vivanet.vivanet.com [204.176.82.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA06823 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:11:26 -0400 Received: from pm2-ip111.vivanet.com by vivanet.vivanet.com id aa15963; 18 Apr 96 23:12 EDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960419031038.0070aa9c@mail.vivanet.com> X-Sender: mpenna@mail.vivanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:10:38 -0400 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Matt Penna Subject: Re: Sally might have some Competition Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 05:48 PM 4/18/96 PDT, you wrote: > >>Oooh... interesting... but did you hear that Sega is thinking of dumping >>Sonic? Even if you already have, it $ucks incredibly... and to confirm it I >>called Sega and asked... > >>THEY SAID IT WAS TRUE!!!!!!! > > >Sorry, but you are mistaken. > >Sega is planning no such thing. In fact, this year is Sonic's 5th >anniversary, and Sega is planning a big bash at the E3 Show in Los Angeles >during May. > >Let me state this again so there is no miscommunication: SEGA IS NOT >PLANNING TO DUMP SONIC. Thank you for setting the record straight, Mike. I was worried there! I'm glad to hear Sonic will be around for a while longer. ******************************************************************** * * "Once again we meet to exchange * * -=Matt Penna=- * valuable tangibles. * * E mail: mpenna@vivanet.com * Isn't this fun?!" * * Home Page Under Construction * -The Trademaster, * * * Star Control II * ******************************************************************** * StH JJ1 Wks+++ AdS->+ Son+++i Sal+++^ Tal+++it Bun++ Rot++ Ant~ * * UnC++ Bks++ Rbk--/++ Pck--/+++ Snv~ Knu++ P++ Da $++++ Ay79 GM * ******************************************************************** * Sonic the Hedgehog Chat on EFNet! * * Go to http://rat.org/sonic/irc/index.html for details * * My IRC nick: MilesProw #sonic channel master * ******************************************************************** From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 00:00:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA07396 for sonic-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:29:08 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net (acme@use.usit.net [199.1.48.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA07390 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:29:06 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA14236; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:29:04 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:29:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) Team OS/2" To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: interview with Yuji Naka In-Reply-To: <199604190141.VAA21363@iwaynet.iwaynet.net> Message-ID: Organization: Rebel Alliance of Mobius MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Thu, 18 Apr 1996, Knuck's/Kulock wrote: > At 07:22 PM 4/18/96 -0400, you wrote: > >Well, Hidden Palace was in the final program... you just... didn't do > >anything if you got there (through a ProActionReplay code). You just..died. > >But that brings up a REALLY good question... I wonder what it originally > >looked like? You know, before they ditched it? Hmmm....... > > > >SUPER STH@aol.com This is just barely an on-topic post. You can post a description of what the Palace looked like. > Oh yes..could you post the code on the list?It'd be interesting to see... And this is not on-topic at all. You have received a copy of the new subscriber intro text, either as a post a few weeks ago or upon subscribing if you joined very recently. Please review these excerpts now: > As a list subscriber, you are responsible for knowing and following > the rules and guidelines in this document. Please read it carefully. > You may post messages on the Sonic games to the extent that the focus > is on the Sonic/Mobius story and/or characters, and not on the games > themselves. > rec.games.video.sega and alt.sega.genesis > Two Usenet groups for discussion of Sonic the Hedgehog and other > games from SEGA. Use these groups instead of this mailing list > if you want to discuss the Sonic games, get codes/cheats, etc. The last 2 excerpts have been in the text since day one, and the third one makes it clear that codes are outside the scope of the list. Two newsgroups for the games make it unncessary for the list to represent them. Being on any mailing list is a privilege not guaranteed to you. Please acquaint yourself with the list's policies and guidelines and abide by them. Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog StH JJ1 Son+ Sal++ Tal++++t Nic+i Rot+i Lup+ P++ Dopw $+++ E25 Ay68 Mail: acme@use.usit.net | WWW: http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~eschulma From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 08:52:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA20615 for sonic-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 08:43:46 -0400 Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA20610 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 08:43:43 -0400 Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA10762; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 08:43:38 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id IAA03394; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 08:43:38 -0400 Message-Id: <199604191243.IAA03394@edmund> Subject: Re: More stories... To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 08:43:38 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <960418220732_193959395@emout15.mail.aol.com> from "SonicKC@aol.com" at Apr 18, 96 10:07:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > > 2# Hearts of Steel > After the destruction of Dr. Robotnik in the explosion of the > Doomsday Project, the robot known as Mecha-Sonic is freed from Robotnik's > tyranny. Finding himself lost and alone in a world that hates and fears him, > he finally thinks he has found his place with the Freedom Fighters. But when > a terrible misunderstanding causes the Freedom Fighters to banish him, he > must prove to them that he really has changed...but will it take a tragedy > for them to see the truth? > Sounds interesting. I don't think anyone's tried to think through M-S's personality so far; he/it sure doesn't have one in the comix. I'll be interested to see how this turns out. And now, my schmaltzy sig: ================================================================ || ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen || |\__-- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu || | / __ _ ||Sonic: "Whoa, you're not going to || //\ / \ /__ || use the L-word, are you?" || | o| 0|__ --_ ||Tails: "Well...." || \\____-- __ \ ___ - ||Sonic: "Then I will...I love you, || (@@ __/ / /_ || little bro." || -_____--- --_ ||AoStH: "Tails' New Home" ================================================================ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 10:25:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA28489 for sonic-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:14:12 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id KAA28478 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:14:08 -0400 Received: from ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.41]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA02452 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 07:17:36 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 07:17:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199604191417.HAA02452@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Sally might have some Competition Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 07:22 PM 4/18/96 -0400, you wrote: >Oooh... interesting... but did you hear that Sega is thinking of dumping >Sonic? Even if you already have, it $ucks incredibly... and to confirm it I >called Sega and asked... > >THEY SAID IT WAS TRUE!!!!!!! > >SUPER STH@aol.com > >"Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic > Man, that super sucks! SEGA doesn't know how important Sonic is. Why don't they dump those Power Morons, instead?! -Chris F. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 10:51:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA28795 for sonic-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:22:00 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id KAA28790 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:21:58 -0400 Received: from ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.41]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA02550 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 07:25:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 07:25:32 -0700 Message-Id: <199604191425.HAA02550@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Sally might have some Competition Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 05:48 PM 4/18/96 PDT, you wrote: > >>Oooh... interesting... but did you hear that Sega is thinking of dumping >>Sonic? Even if you already have, it $ucks incredibly... and to confirm it I >>called Sega and asked... > >>THEY SAID IT WAS TRUE!!!!!!! > > >Sorry, but you are mistaken. > >Sega is planning no such thing. In fact, this year is Sonic's 5th >anniversary, and Sega is planning a big bash at the E3 Show in Los Angeles >during May. > >Let me state this again so there is no miscommunication: SEGA IS NOT >PLANNING TO DUMP SONIC. We are featuring him in multiple games across >multiple platforms this year. In fact, this could be one of Sonic's biggest >years ever! Stay tuned... > > > -Mike Wallis >Producer, Sonic Saturn > Oh, man! Thank God! I was getting worried! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 10:54:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA28769 for sonic-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:21:07 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id KAA28764 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:21:04 -0400 Received: from ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.41]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA02545 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 07:24:33 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 07:24:33 -0700 Message-Id: <199604191424.HAA02545@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re:interview with Yuji Naka Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 11:05 PM 4/18/96 -0230, you wrote: >>lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca wrote... >> >>>You've obviously never heard of the Mario Bros. >> >>HOW DARE YOU MENTION THAT DISGUSTING...... (let me find the word)..... >>THING..... ON THIS LIST?!?! Almost made me friggin' puke!!!! >> >>SUPER STH@aol.com >> >>"Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic > >Well geez, I kinda like their games. Not as good as Sonic, but still good. I >just think that Mario's fat. MARIOMARIOMARIOLUIGIMARIOMARIOMARIO Aaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!! Aaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!! Help! Sonic, get them out of here! "No prob! hasta la vista, Mario Brothers!" VRRROOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!! BBBBOOOOMMMMM!!!!! -Me > >------------------------ >The Necromancer >lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca > >"The robb'd who smiles, takes something away from the thief." >-William Shakespear > > From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 11:23:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA28632 for sonic-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:17:46 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id KAA28625 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:17:43 -0400 Received: from ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.41]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA02505 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 07:21:17 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 07:21:17 -0700 Message-Id: <199604191421.HAA02505@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Sally might have some Competition Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 08:16 PM 4/18/96 -0500, you wrote: >On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 SUPERSTH@aol.com wrote: > >> Oooh... interesting... but did you hear that Sega is thinking of dumping >> Sonic? Even if you already have, it $ucks incredibly... and to confirm it I >> called Sega and asked... >> >> THEY SAID IT WAS TRUE!!!!!!! > >Really? This is news to me! The last time I talked with Sega Reps via >e-mail about a new Sonic game (about 3 or 4 months ago) they couldn't >confirm or deny anything about a game but said something to the effect of >"Sonic is an important part of Sega's image. He'll be sticking around." > >One question _I_ have is if this IS true and Sega drops Sonic, will Archie >Comics continue with their Sonic series? [ Does Archie 'NEED' Sega's >support or does Archie's Sonic have a 'life of its own' ]. All l can say is: they'd better. Of coarse they will, they're making lots of bucks (I can see why). Chris F. P.S. I wonder why Sonic doesn't do half the running in the comic, than he does on the Sat. cartoon show. > >-- > James Firmiss firmiss@cae.wisc.edu > >@[=g3,8d]\&fbb=-q]/hk%fg" > > From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 11:28:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA29671 for sonic-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:40:18 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id KAA29664 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:40:13 -0400 Received: from ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.41]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA02809 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 07:43:47 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 07:43:47 -0700 Message-Id: <199604191443.HAA02809@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Sally might have some Competition Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 11:10 PM 4/18/96 -0400, you wrote: >At 05:48 PM 4/18/96 PDT, you wrote: >> >>>Oooh... interesting... but did you hear that Sega is thinking of dumping >>>Sonic? Even if you already have, it $ucks incredibly... and to confirm it I >>>called Sega and asked... >> >>>THEY SAID IT WAS TRUE!!!!!!! >> >> >>Sorry, but you are mistaken. >> >>Sega is planning no such thing. In fact, this year is Sonic's 5th >>anniversary, and Sega is planning a big bash at the E3 Show in Los Angeles >>during May. >> >>Let me state this again so there is no miscommunication: SEGA IS NOT >>PLANNING TO DUMP SONIC. > >Thank you for setting the record straight, Mike. I was worried there! I'm >glad to hear Sonic will be around for a while longer. Yea, me too. Music to my ears. -Chris > > > >******************************************************************** >* * "Once again we meet to exchange * >* -=Matt Penna=- * valuable tangibles. * >* E mail: mpenna@vivanet.com * Isn't this fun?!" * >* Home Page Under Construction * -The Trademaster, * >* * Star Control II * >******************************************************************** >* StH JJ1 Wks+++ AdS->+ Son+++i Sal+++^ Tal+++it Bun++ Rot++ Ant~ * >* UnC++ Bks++ Rbk--/++ Pck--/+++ Snv~ Knu++ P++ Da $++++ Ay79 GM * >******************************************************************** >* Sonic the Hedgehog Chat on EFNet! * >* Go to http://rat.org/sonic/irc/index.html for details * >* My IRC nick: MilesProw #sonic channel master * >******************************************************************** > > From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 12:47:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA08280 for sonic-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 12:19:24 -0400 Received: from sonic.segaoa.com (sonic.segaoa.com [198.176.13.13]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA08262 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 12:19:21 -0400 Received: from blackhole.segaoa.com by sonic.segaoa.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA10382; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:22:57 +0800 Received: by blackhole.segaoa.com with Microsoft Mail id <3177BD69@blackhole.segaoa.com>; Fri, 19 Apr 96 09:20:57 PDT From: "Wallis, Mike" To: Sonic mailing list Subject: Re: Sally might have some Competition Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 09:20:00 PDT Message-Id: <3177BD69@blackhole.segaoa.com> Encoding: 10 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 content-length: 267 Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Thank you for setting the record straight, Mike. I was worried there! I'm >glad to hear Sonic will be around for a while longer. You are welcome. Just remember, Sega views Sonic the same way as Disney views Mickey Mouse. Neither are going to fade away. -Mike From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 13:09:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA08793 for sonic-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 12:33:32 -0400 Received: from mhv.net (root@csbh.mhv.net [199.0.0.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA08788 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 12:33:29 -0400 Received: from aslan.com by mhv.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA06638; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 12:35:40 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 12:37:23 From: R_Kid@aslan.com (R Kid) Organization: Aslan Control Technologies,Inc. Subject: new address To: sonic@bort.mv.net Message-Id: <1737126.ensmtp@aslan.com> Priority: normal X-Mailer: ExpressNet/SMTP v1.1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit content-length: 204 Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hi, guys! I'll be using the list from this place, at least temporarily, because my other place really sucks. To gett to me, mail me at r-kid@aslan.com Bye Racewing r-kid@aslan.com Sonikode: Breezie++! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 13:14:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA08282 for sonic-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 12:19:25 -0400 Received: from sonic.segaoa.com (sonic.segaoa.com [198.176.13.13]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA08263 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 12:19:21 -0400 Received: from blackhole.segaoa.com by sonic.segaoa.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA10379; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:22:54 +0800 Received: by blackhole.segaoa.com with Microsoft Mail id <3177BD66@blackhole.segaoa.com>; Fri, 19 Apr 96 09:20:54 PDT From: "Wallis, Mike" To: Sonic mailing list Subject: Sonic is here to stay! (was Re: Sally might have some Competition) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 09:20:00 PDT Message-Id: <3177BD66@blackhole.segaoa.com> Encoding: 19 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 content-length: 392 Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Multiple games. Like short aperances in other Sega games.. That has >already been done. Wrong again! Strike 2. One more and you're out. :) Let me see if this can wet your appetite: Sonic for the Saturn Sonic for the Genesis Sonic for Game Gear Sonic for PC Sonic for PICO 5 full Sonic titles for 5 platforms. Hey, and it's Sonic's 5th anniversary! Wow... Imagine that... -Mike From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 13:38:05 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA12660 for sonic-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 13:14:02 -0400 Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA12651 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 13:13:55 -0400 Received: from COMPAQ ([203.120.80.197]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA10535 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 01:13:41 +0800 X-Sender: vicl@po.pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: vicl@pacific.net.sg (Lye Victor) Subject: Re : Sonic Fan-Fic Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 01:13:41 +0800 Message-ID: <19960419171340.AAA10535@COMPAQ> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hi ! Aaron again . This post is once again to advertise a new fan-fic story I just completed . This isn't getting boring or tedious , is it ? Anyway , this one's called "The Persecuted" and it kicks off where "Of Foxes and Sorcery " left off . Here's a brief description : Tails is settling into his new role as a Guardian quite easily . One eventful day , an injured creature apparently stumbles upon Knothole , seeking sanctuary. The creature displays special abilities upon recovery , but the Freedom Fighters soon discover that this creature has had differences with Angela , Tails' enigmatic mentor . The appearance of the creature brings out a dark side in Angela's personality , which has disastrous( and I mean disastrous ) effects on the creature , as well as on Tails ... As before , e-mail me for a copy at vicl@pacific.net.sg . You will also be informed if it becomes available at a website . DO NOT SEND REQUESTS VIA THIS MAILING LIST . CONTACT ME DIRECTLY . Once again , my apologies to those who have sent requests within the last 48 hours . Due to circumstances beyond my control , I will not recieve them till tomorrow , but the minute I do , they will be processed immediately . Enjoy . __________________________________________________________________________ Aaron Lye vicl@pacific.net.sg __________________________________________________________________________ StH JJ1 WkS+++ Son++ Sal++ Tal+++t Bun++" Rot~ Ant++ Nic+ Dul+ UnC0 Bks+ Rbk0 Snv--/+ Knu+ Mut+ P+ Df $+++ E27 Ay78 GM __________________________________________________________________________ This came from Singapore , the "Lion City"... __________________________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 14:47:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA17871 for sonic-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:16:15 -0400 Received: from saul1.u.washington.edu (lazuli@saul1.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA17866 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:16:12 -0400 Received: from localhost by saul1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19238; Fri, 19 Apr 96 11:16:10 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 11:16:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Michael Sloniker To: Sonic mailing list Subject: Re: Sonic is here to stay! (was Re: Sally might have some Competition) In-Reply-To: <3177BD66@blackhole.segaoa.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Mike Wallis wrote: > Let me see if this can wet your appetite: > Sonic for the Saturn > Sonic for the Genesis > Sonic for Game Gear > Sonic for PC > Sonic for PICO (insert Homer drool sound here) That's a lot of Sonic. But the *big* question is: how many of those titles have Tails in them? (:3 ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer lazuli@u.washington.edu The Internet treats censorship as damage and routes around it. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 15:48:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA22735 for sonic-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:25:13 -0400 Received: from ds1.gl.umbc.edu (root@ds1.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.3.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA22727 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:25:06 -0400 Received: from rpa01.gl.umbc.edu (cmugg1@rpa01.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.61.91]) by ds1.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA16171 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:24:39 -0400 Received: (cmugg1@localhost) by rpa01.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA10848; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:24:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:24:50 -0400 (EDT) From: mugg charles To: sonic@bort.mv.net cc: Sonic mailing list Subject: Re: Sonic is here to stay! (was Re: Sally might have some Competition) In-Reply-To: <3177BD66@blackhole.segaoa.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, Wallis, Mike wrote: > Wrong again! > Strike 2. One more and you're out. :) > > Let me see if this can wet your appetite: > Sonic for the Saturn Kiken here, um, which Saturn Sonic game? There are three on the way. V Sonic: Being programmed by the same members of Sonic Team (Japan) who programmed the Mega CD version, which oddly enough means that Yamaguchi Yasashi-san will probably be in charge (instead of Naka Yuji-san). Fighting Sonic: Being programmed by the absolute deity of 3D, Suzuki Yu-san of Sega Enterprises' AM2. True, the arcade release will be first, but SOJ did announce the home version. 3D Sonic (tentative title): Programmed by team Sega Tech (SOA). The same team who prgrammed Sonic Spinball and Sonic 3. Well, anyway, make sure that Sonic doesn't get dumped. I know that Sega Enterprises (Japan) have been rumored (hopefully, that's all it is) that they will ease Sonic out of the spotlight in the near future. Chances are that VF2 has something to do with that. After all, there's a continuous running anime series based on VF2, while Sonic was only given a two part OVA release. Hmmmmm. Kiken signing off. ASOBIWA...OWARIDA! Sayonara. This message from the Baltimore Ronin, homepage at: http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~cmugg1 Ikuze! /---/ |\ /\ "To live a life of power, / / | \ / \ you must have faith in what you / / | / / \ believe, even if others tell you ------- |/ /------\ you are wrong; / __ |\ __|__ The first step to living a life of / | | | \ | | | power is to find courage, you must / | _| | / |__|__| be prepared to reach beyond the / |_____| |/ | boundaries of time itself; | / \ And to do that, all you need is the will to take that very first step." Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 16:02:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA23009 for sonic-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:32:37 -0400 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA23004 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:32:33 -0400 Received: from terra.nlnet.nf.ca (terra.nlnet.nf.ca [192.75.13.101]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA06237 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 17:02:32 -0230 (NDT) Received: from n105h082.nlnet.nf.ca by terra.nlnet.nf.ca; (5.65/1.1.8.2/26Jan95-0807PM) id AA01518; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 17:02:21 -0230 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 17:02:21 -0230 Message-Id: <9604191932.AA01518@terra.nlnet.nf.ca> X-Sender: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (The Necromancer) Subject: Re: Sonic is here to stay! (was Re: Sally might have some Competition) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Mike Wallis wrote: > >> Let me see if this can wet your appetite: >> Sonic for the Saturn >> Sonic for the Genesis >> Sonic for Game Gear >> Sonic for PC >> Sonic for PICO > >(insert Homer drool sound here) > >That's a lot of Sonic. But the *big* question is: how many of those >titles have Tails in them? (:3 And Knuckles, and Mecha Sonic, and Mighty, and Vector, and Espio...? ------------------------ The Necromancer lavery@terra.nlnet.nf.ca "The robb'd who smiles, takes something away from the thief." -William Shakespear From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 16:23:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA26098 for sonic-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:59:59 -0400 Received: from inet.uni-c.dk (inet.uni-c.dk [130.228.6.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA26093 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:59:56 -0400 Received: from arh152.ppp.uni-c.dk (arh152.ppp.uni-c.dk [130.228.13.152]) by inet.uni-c.dk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA15821 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:56:24 +0200 Received: by arh152.ppp.uni-c.dk with Microsoft Mail id <01BB2E3B.71695FE0@arh152.ppp.uni-c.dk>; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:59:12 +-200 Message-ID: <01BB2E3B.71695FE0@arh152.ppp.uni-c.dk> From: Michael Emil Hansen To: "'sonic@bort.mv.net'" Subject: RE: More stories... Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:45:24 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BB2E3B.725D83E0" Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB2E3B.725D83E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---------- From: SonicKC@aol.com[SMTP:SonicKC@aol.com] Sent: 19, april 1996 04.07 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: More stories... All right, since everyone else is going to advertise their stories, I = might as well too... These aren't finished yet, but I'm working hard on them. =20 1# Flamestar's Revenge This is really a Knuckles story, but I think it's pretty good... Knuckles has been having mysterious dreams lately that all have = the same theme: his old enemy planning revenge. He dissmisses them at = first, but when a dark secret from his past returns to haunt him, he is forced to = face up to his past and defend his title of Guardian of the Floating Island. 2# Hearts of Steel After the destruction of Dr. Robotnik in the explosion of the Doomsday Project, the robot known as Mecha-Sonic is freed from = Robotnik's tyranny. Finding himself lost and alone in a world that hates and fears = him, he finally thinks he has found his place with the Freedom Fighters. But = when a terrible misunderstanding causes the Freedom Fighters to banish him, = he must prove to them that he really has changed...but will it take a = tragedy for them to see the truth? 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(was Re: Sally might have some Competition) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 09:20 AM 4/19/96 PDT, you wrote: > >>Multiple games. Like short aperances in other Sega games.. That has >>already been done. > >Wrong again! >Strike 2. One more and you're out. :) > >Let me see if this can wet your appetite: >Sonic for the Saturn Hm..the 'yet unnamed one'? because besides it, there's also SOnic the Fighters and VSonic for the Saturn..3 games for the saturn..way past kewl.. >Sonic for the Genesis Knuck's has no Idea, so 'no comment' >Sonic for Game Gear As long as it isn't 'Sonic Spinball 2'.. >Sonic for PC Finally gonna release Sonic CD Remix, right? >Sonic for PICO PICO?Can that realy be considered a GAME? >5 full Sonic titles for 5 platforms. Hey, and it's Sonic's 5th anniversary! > Wow... Imagine that... No..7 full ones (or if VSonic and that unnamed one are the same, 6)..but who's counting.. > > > -Mike Ok, I'll stop annoying you now... -Knuck's&Kulock, Partners in Crime. I'll get a sig soon!I promise! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 18:35:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA04526 for sonic-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 18:00:52 -0400 Received: from iwaynet.iwaynet.net (iwaynet.iwaynet.net [198.30.29.7]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA04507 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 18:00:28 -0400 Received: from port203.iwaynet.net (port203.iwaynet.net [198.30.29.203]) by iwaynet.iwaynet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA16908 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 17:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 17:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199604192157.RAA16908@iwaynet.iwaynet.net> X-Sender: eggleton@iwaynet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: "Knuck's/Kulock" Subject: RE: More stories... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 09:45 PM 4/19/96 +-200, you wrote: > > >---------- >From: SonicKC@aol.com[SMTP:SonicKC@aol.com] >Sent: 19, april 1996 04.07 >To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Subject: Re: More stories... > >All right, since everyone else is going to advertise their stories, I might >as well too... >These aren't finished yet, but I'm working hard on them. >=20 >1# Flamestar's Revenge > This is really a Knuckles story, but I think it's pretty good... > Knuckles has been having mysterious dreams lately that all have the >same theme: his old enemy planning revenge. He dissmisses them at first,= but >when a dark secret from his past returns to haunt him, he is forced to face >up to his past and defend his title of Guardian of the Floating Island. > >2# Hearts of Steel > After the destruction of Dr. Robotnik in the explosion of the >Doomsday Project, the robot known as Mecha-Sonic is freed from Robotnik's >tyranny. Finding himself lost and alone in a world that hates and fears= him, >he finally thinks he has found his place with the Freedom Fighters. But= when >a terrible misunderstanding causes the Freedom Fighters to banish him, he >must prove to them that he really has changed...but will it take a tragedy >for them to see the truth? > >I'll let everyone know as soon as these are finished. ;-) > > > > > > >If any of you have a storey, and don=B4t no hwer to place them, then let me= know. >=DA=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C2=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=BF >=B3 ___------__ =B3 =C9=CD=CD=CD =C9=CD=CD=CD =C9= =CD=CD=BB =C9=CD=CD=BB =B3 >=B3 |\__-- /\ _- =B3 =CC=CD=CD =CC=CD=CD =CD=CD =BA = =BA =B3 >=B3 | / __ _ =B3 =CA =CA =C8=CD=CD=BC= =C8=CD=CD=BC =B3 >=B3 //\ / \ /__ =B3 Knothole. = =B3 >=B3 | o| 0|__ --_ =B3 = =B3 >=B3 \\____-- __ \ ___ - =B3 Commander Sonic Data. = =B3 >=B3 (@@ __/ / /_ =B3 E-mail soniccsd@inet.uni-c.dk = =B3 >=B3 -_____--- --_ =B3 HTTP://INET.UNI-C.DK/~SONICCSD/ = =B3 >=B3 =B3 ASCII Sonic by Han J. Lee = =B3 >=C0=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C1=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=D9 > > > >Attachment Converted: C:\IWAYNET\EUDORA\REMorest. > Ack, would you please stop sending 're:'s as attachments?It just wastes HD space.. Thanks for your time, -Knuck's the Echidna (I think..) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- "Da plane!Da plane!""No my little friend, that is only Knuck's/Kulock's sig and webpage, FINALLY going to appear after slacking off for so long..watch for it soon..""I still wanted a plane.." -------------------------------------------------_--------------------------= --- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 18:47:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA06238 for sonic-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 18:17:06 -0400 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA06228 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 18:17:03 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with ESMTP id SAA27908 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 18:17:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.41]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA11437 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:19:23 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:19:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199604192219.PAA11437@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Sonic is here to stay! (was Re: Sally might have some Competition) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 09:20 AM 4/19/96 PDT, you wrote: > >>Multiple games. Like short aperances in other Sega games.. That has >>already been done. > >Wrong again! >Strike 2. One more and you're out. :) > >Let me see if this can wet your appetite: >Sonic for the Saturn >Sonic for the Genesis >Sonic for Game Gear >Sonic for PC >Sonic for PICO > >5 full Sonic titles for 5 platforms. Hey, and it's Sonic's 5th anniversary! > Wow... Imagine that... > > > -Mike > You forgot Sonic CD. -Christopher (Chris) Flinn -) From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 20:41:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA13550 for sonic-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 20:05:09 -0400 Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com (emout19.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.45]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA13539 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 20:05:06 -0400 From: DGonterman@AOL.com Received: by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA08832 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 20:04:30 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 20:04:30 -0400 Message-ID: <960419200428_276269047@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Re : Sonic Fan Fiction Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net In a message dated 96-04-17 11:33:01 EDT, you write: >It's completed ! The sequel to my story "As the Wheel Turns" . >It occurs almost immediately after the events in AtWT , with Sally thinking >she's to blame for Mobius going to war again ... and guess who's job it is >to persuade her otherwise ? Meanwhile , Mobotropolis is the target for the >first strike of the forces loyal to Ari and his allies , but the attack comes >from the place they least expect ... it would seem that Ari's forces have >their own ... connections . > >Read the story . Enjoy . > >E-mail me for a copy ! vicl@pacific.net.sg > >Aaron Lye >vicl@pacific.net.sg >StH JJ1 WkS tFF Son++ Sal++ Tal+++t Bun++" Rot~ Ant++ Nic+ Dul+ UnC0 Bks+ >Vil Rbk0 Snv--/+ Ext Knu+ Mut+ P+ Df $+++ E27 Ay78 GM > > > Sure thing, send me a copy... Thanks David Gonterman From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 23:10:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA22370 for sonic-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 22:36:50 -0400 Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca [206.75.222.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA22365 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 22:36:44 -0400 Received: by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA52462; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 20:29:58 -0600 Received: by ender.cuug.ab.ca (V1.17-beta.31{ask@castrov.UUCP/10}/Amiga) id <9lrd@ender.cuug.ab.ca>; Fri, 19 Apr 96 20:12:32 MDT Received: by sago.cuc.ab.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1(sago-1.3)) id AA11144; Fri, 19 Apr 96 20:06:56 MDT Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 20:06:56 MDT Message-Id: <9604200206.AA11144@sago.cuc.ab.ca> From: uug@sago.cuc.ab.ca (William Graham) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Sonic for the PICO Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >>Multiple games. Like short aperances in other Sega games.. That has >>already been done. I like the way Sonic appears in Daytona USA, carved into a solid rock face. It would be neat to find out how that happened, both in real and fictional terms. Mike Wallis writes: > Let me see if this can wet your appetite: [...] > Sonic for PICO I was looking at a PICO the other day in Toys R Us, and I noticed that one of the things you can do with "Tails and the Music Maker" is create animations of your own, using characters supplied by the cartridge. Naturally, Sonic and Tails are two of the characters you can make run around on the screen... > 5 full Sonic titles for 5 platforms. Hey, and it's Sonic's 5th anniversary! In the immortal words of Bunnie Rabbot, "That hedgehog makes me sweat!" Or was it "wet"? ;-) Oh, never mind... - William Graham - a net.freedom-fighter for a free Mobius! - From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 00:25:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA26342 for sonic-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 23:40:07 -0400 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA26328 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 23:40:03 -0400 Received: from sonic.segaoa.com (sonic.segaoa.com [198.176.13.13]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with SMTP id VAA20604 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:02:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from blackhole.segaoa.com by sonic.segaoa.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA14138; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 18:05:58 +0800 Received: by blackhole.segaoa.com with Microsoft Mail id <31783848@blackhole.segaoa.com>; Fri, 19 Apr 96 18:05:12 PDT From: "Wallis, Mike" To: Sonic mailing list Subject: Re: Sonic is here to stay! (was Re: Sally might have some Competition) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 18:04:00 PDT Message-Id: <31783848@blackhole.segaoa.com> Encoding: 50 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Back to eliminate any more rumors about Sonic... >Kiken here, um, which Saturn Sonic game? There are three on the way. Actually, there is one definite. Sonic Fighters will probably be released in Japan (release in the States & Europe is still under debate). >V Sonic: Being programmed by the same members of Sonic Team (Japan) who > programmed the Mega CD version, which oddly enough means that Yamaguchi > Yasashi-san will probably be in charge (instead of Naka Yuji-san). No word on this one. Folks around here believe you must be misinformed. >Fighting Sonic: Being programmed by the absolute deity of 3D, Suzuki > Yu-san of Sega Enterprises' AM2. True, the arcade release will be > first, but SOJ did announce the home version. SOJ might have announced a home version, but that will be for Japan only. The debate is still going on whether we will bring it to the States or not. It will probably be solved after the E3 Show in mid-May. By the way, why do you refer to them as Last name First name Mr. (Suzuki Yu-san, for example)? That is an incorrect way to refer to someone. It's like saying "Smith Mr. Joe" >3D Sonic (tentative title): Programmed by team Sega Tech (SOA). The > same team who prgrammed Sonic Spinball and Sonic 3. How wrong you are! First, it was never referred to as 3D Sonic. The tentative title is Sonic X-treme. Second, none of the same members who did Sonic Spinball or Sonic 3 (two different teams for the most part) are working on Sonic X-treme. >Well, anyway, make sure that Sonic doesn't get dumped. I know that Sega >Enterprises (Japan) have been rumored (hopefully, that's all it is) that >they will ease Sonic out of the spotlight in the near future. Chances >are that VF2 has something to do with that. After all, there's a >continuous running anime series based on VF2, while Sonic was only given a >two part OVA release. Hmmmmm. Again, Sega letting Sonic fade away would be like Disney letting Mickey Mouse fade away. Not gonna happen. VF2 is HUGE in Japan, while it is only carries a moderate appeal here. Sonic is big in both Japan and the States. There's plenty of room for both to co-exist peacefully. -Mike From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 03:28:52 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id DAA23605 for sonic-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 03:02:26 -0400 Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id DAA23598 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 03:02:19 -0400 Received: from COMPAQ ([203.120.80.26]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA29880 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 15:02:12 +0800 X-Sender: vicl@po.pacific.net.sg (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: vicl@pacific.net.sg (Lye Victor) Subject: Re : Requests for Fanfics Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 15:02:12 +0800 Message-ID: <19960420070211.AAA29880@COMPAQ> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hi ! Just to inform those who have requested for my fan-fics within the last 48 hours that they have been processed . In future , please indicate your name and your e-mail inside the BODY of your text . The reason is that I share my account with another person , and when he gets my mail , I get the mail on a disk , and the saved version of the letters only have the text body . I have had two examples of this already , the first being a person called Zoron , and the other was just recently , no name nor e-mail . This is the message I recieved : >I'm writing this letter for two reasons: >First, the stories were great; I read all of them and loved each one. I >think you ought to tell more about Tails helping to defeat Snively (hint >hint). >Second, could I please have a copy of the sequel to "As the Wheel Turns"? >Can't wait to see it! =) > If this is your message , please resend it , this time with an e-mail and and name inside the text body . Thanx . __________________________________________________________________________ Aaron Lye vicl@pacific.net.sg __________________________________________________________________________ StH JJ1 WkS+++ Son++ Sal++ Tal+++t Bun++" Rot~ Ant++ Nic+ Dul+ UnC0 Bks+ Rbk0 Snv--/+ Knu+ Mut+ P+ Df $+++ E27 Ay78 GM __________________________________________________________________________ This came from Singapore , the "Lion City"... __________________________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 05:55:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id FAA00189 for sonic-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 05:31:08 -0400 Received: from inet.uni-c.dk (inet.uni-c.dk [130.228.6.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id FAA00184 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 05:31:05 -0400 Received: from arh147.ppp.uni-c.dk (arh147.ppp.uni-c.dk [130.228.13.147]) by inet.uni-c.dk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA02779 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 11:27:38 +0200 Received: by arh147.ppp.uni-c.dk with Microsoft Mail id <01BB2EAC.C6C6F1C0@arh147.ppp.uni-c.dk>; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 11:30:28 +-200 Message-ID: <01BB2EAC.C6C6F1C0@arh147.ppp.uni-c.dk> From: Michael Emil Hansen To: "'Sonic Mailing List'" Subject: Re: More stories Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 11:17:14 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net U3VycnkgZ295cy4gSGF2ZSBhIHByb2JsZW0gd2l0aCBteSBNUyBFeGNoYW5nZS4NCg0K2sTExMTE xMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMLExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTE xMTExMTExMTExL8NCrMgICAgICAgIF9fXy0tLS0tLV9fICAgICCzICAgICAgICAgICAgyc3NzSDJ zc3NICAgIMnNzbsgyc3NuyAgICAgICAgICAgICCzDQqzIHxcX18tLSAgIC9cICAgICAgIF8tICAg syAgICAgICAgICAgIMzNzSAgzM3NICDNzSC6ICAgILogICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgsw0KsyB8IC8g ICAgX18gICAgICAgXyAgICAgILMgICAgICAgICAgICDKICAgIMogICAgICAgyM3NvCDIzc28ICAg ICAgICAgICAgILMNCrMgIC8vXCAgLyAgXCAgICAgL19fICAgICCzICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg IEtub3Rob2xlLiAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICCzDQqzICB8ICBvfCAgMHxfXyAgICAgIC0tXyAg syAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgsw0KsyAgXFxf X19fLS0gX18gXCAgIF9fXyAtILMgICAgICAgICAgICAgQ29tbWFuZGVyIFNvbmljIERhdGEuICAg ICAgICAgICAgILMNCrMgIChAQCAgICBfXy8gIC8gL18gICAgICCzICAgICAgICAgRS1tYWlsIHNv bmljY3NkQGluZXQudW5pLWMuZGsgICAgICAgICCzDQqzICAgICAtX19fX18tLS0gICAtLV8gICAg syAgICAgICAgSFRUUDovL0lORVQuVU5JLUMuREsvflNPTklDQ1NELyAgICAgICAgsw0KsyAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgILMgICAgICAgICAgIEFTQ0lJIFNvbmljIGJ5IEhhbiBKLiBMZWUg ICAgICAgICAgILMNCsDExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTBxMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTE xMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTZDQo= From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 12:08:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA22714 for sonic-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 11:51:28 -0400 Received: from charlie.acc.iit.edu (charlie.acc.iit.edu [198.87.195.20]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA22663 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 11:51:23 -0400 Received: from elof.acc.iit.edu by charlie.acc.iit.edu via SMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/940406.SGI) for id KAA16781; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 10:52:15 -0500 Received: by elof.acc.iit.edu (NX5.67d/NX3.0S) id AA01110; Sat, 20 Apr 96 10:51:20 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 96 10:51:20 -0500 From: Victor Ramirez Message-Id: <9604201551.AA01110@elof.acc.iit.edu> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Upcoming Sonic #37 issue Cc: ramivic@elof.acc.iit.edu Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net This is the ISSUE that Archie should make a poster for ('listening Paul C.). Pick up issue #36 (out this week) and look in the Sonic-Grams section, they have a preview of the new Spaz cover :) It has Sonic holding onto Uncle Chuck while holding a knocked-out Sally... AGAIN - Archie Comics - Please start making STH posters!!! Thanks - -- Victor A. Ramirez Computer Graphics Technician - Chicago Public Schools ramivic@elof.acc.iit.edu "I think I'm gonna hurl..." - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 14:01:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA27590 for sonic-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 13:33:08 -0400 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA27580 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 13:33:06 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA07409 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 13:32:36 -0400 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 13:32:36 -0400 Message-ID: <960420133235_518218333@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Need Pics of Characters! Probably upcoming Sonic WWW page. Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net What's this "I can draw a character for you" thing about? You mean you're gonna draw it by hand and scan it, or do it on computer? SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 14:04:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA27601 for sonic-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 13:33:29 -0400 Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com (emout14.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.40]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA27596 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 13:33:27 -0400 From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA07384 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 13:32:42 -0400 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 13:32:42 -0400 Message-ID: <960420133241_518218374@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Fanfic and Politics: A Response Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net In a response to a Fanfic and Politics: A Response that Joseph currently posted... >I just happen to have a strong dislike of rating things because of X variable... I believe >that the content of a story, not a property of it, determines its value. All I gotta say is that I strongly agree. I live in a neighborhood full of teenagers, and as soon as they see the "F" word or one similar in a book or a movie they say "cool!" and parents say "outrageous!". My point is that, unfortunately, we live in a world of stereotypes, and there isn't much we can do to change that (I don't want to change the world or anything, I just wanted to make my point clear). So, before I draw this letter to a close, I'd like to say this... FACE IT. Although it may be annoying and painful, simplicity and youth amusement rule supreme, and all others are soon sacrificed to prove this point. Speaking of sacrifices... I didn't take the cancellation of the Sonic Saturday morning show lying down. I complained endlessly, convinced many of my friends to send letters, and E-Mailed ABC a lot... what did everyone else do? I'd like to know. SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 18:22:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA14543 for sonic-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 18:05:48 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA14538 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 18:05:42 -0400 Received: from ppp13.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp13.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.43]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA26201 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 15:09:16 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 15:09:16 -0700 Message-Id: <199604202209.PAA26201@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Upcoming Sonic #37 issue Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 10:51 AM 4/20/96 -0500, you wrote: > >This is the ISSUE that Archie should make a poster for >('listening Paul C.). Pick up issue #36 (out this week) and look >in the Sonic-Grams section, they have a preview of the new Spaz >cover :) Hey, I think that might be a good idea. Man, Victor sure gets Sonic comics early. I usually don't get them 'till the 10th. >It has Sonic holding onto Uncle Chuck while holding a knocked-out >Sally... Say what?! Knocked out Sally?! Hmmm. I'd better check this out. >AGAIN - Archie Comics - Please start making STH posters!!! I agree. Freddy could post them in the (under construction) Sonic Extra. >Thanks - > >-- >Victor A. Ramirez >Computer Graphics Technician - Chicago Public Schools >ramivic@elof.acc.iit.edu > >"I think I'm gonna hurl..." > - Sonic > -Chris Flinn "If you can't taste the chili dogs, stay out of the kitchen!" -Sonic dflinn@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 19:12:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA15251 for sonic-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 18:30:42 -0400 Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com (emout15.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.41]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA15246 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 18:30:40 -0400 From: SoniadaH@aol.com Received: by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA19945 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 18:30:09 -0400 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 18:30:09 -0400 Message-ID: <960420183009_518363853@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic is here to stay! (was Re: Sally might have some Competition) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net ::does headstand, then does back flip and double super sonic twist:: YEEEEEEEAAAWW!! My bro's makin' a comeback! Hedgehogs forever!! ~*=="Rip 'n Roar, Settle da Score, Bite da Bullet, Sockit to It!"==*~ --Suni da Hedgehog~Sister to the Fastest Thing Alive!~ $$$$$$$$$$ @ @ |\ | ************* $ @ @ | \ | $ @ @ | \ | * $$$$$$$$$$ @ @ | \ | * $ @ @ | \ | * $ @ @ | \ | $$$$$$$$$$ @ @ @ @ | \___| ************ And now, some quotes...:) *~"Fuzzies??! I'm a Fuzzie!!!!!"~*--Mitzi Abbacca LightStar *~"I spent 10 hours on Mobius.Net for THIS?!?!"~*--Mellisa 'Kopter' Prower *~"AAHH!!! IT MOVED!!!"~*--Saphire 'Speed' McSpiklen And know, some shameless promos...>:) *~Star Trek: Voyager meets Mobius Trek: Voygur---AAAHHH!!!~* *~Comming Soon! ShadowedLight WWW page!~* YES!!!!! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 19:13:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA15587 for sonic-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 18:38:38 -0400 Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com (emout13.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.39]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA15582 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 18:38:36 -0400 From: SoniadaH@aol.com Received: by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA02231 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 18:38:05 -0400 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 18:38:05 -0400 Message-ID: <960420183804_518367594@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Japanese names... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net (Tsukino Usagi stands up...clears throat) Serena: Umm...sir? Uhh...Sailor Moon here, ya know, that Japan Anime show popular in the US? Uhh....Japanese have a slightly different custom than here in America...the last name is first. Over here, I'd be called...Uh, well, my Japanese name would be said 'Usagi Tsukino'...it's your custom. In my homeland, it's 'Tsukino Usagi'. Um, everything else is okay, sir. You're that Sega guy, right? Oops! The Negaverse is causing trouble in the fanfics again! In the name of the moon, I'm outta here!! (Sailor Moon dives off in a flash of ponytails) Uhh...whatever. ~*=="Rip 'n Roar, Settle da Score, Bite da Bullet, Sockit to It!"==*~ --Suni da Hedgehog~Sister to the Fastest Thing Alive!~ $$$$$$$$$$ @ @ |\ | ************* $ @ @ | \ | $ @ @ | \ | * $$$$$$$$$$ @ @ | \ | * $ @ @ | \ | * $ @ @ | \ | $$$$$$$$$$ @ @ @ @ | \___| ************ And now, some quotes...:) *~"Fuzzies??! I'm a Fuzzie!!!!!"~*--Mitzi Abbacca LightStar *~"I spent 10 hours on Mobius.Net for THIS?!?!"~*--Mellisa 'Kopter' Prower *~"AAHH!!! IT MOVED!!!"~*--Saphire 'Speed' McSpiklen And know, some shameless promos...>:) *~Star Trek: Voyager meets Mobius Trek: Voygur---AAAHHH!!!~* *~Comming Soon! ShadowedLight WWW page!~* YES!!!!! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 20:39:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA22057 for sonic-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:03:37 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.4.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA22052 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:03:34 -0400 Received: from sun-5.cae.wisc.edu (sun-5.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.69.181]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with ESMTP id TAA26887 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 19:03:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from firmiss@localhost) by sun-5.cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) id TAA14163; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 19:03:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 19:03:31 -0500 (CDT) From: James Firmiss To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Upcoming Sonic #37 issue In-Reply-To: <9604201551.AA01110@elof.acc.iit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Sat, 20 Apr 1996, Victor Ramirez wrote: > This is the ISSUE that Archie should make a poster for > ('listening Paul C.). Pick up issue #36 (out this week) and look > in the Sonic-Grams section, they have a preview of the new Spaz > cover :) > > It has Sonic holding onto Uncle Chuck while holding a knocked-out > Sally... Yes... That would make a good poster. Many of Spaz's other covers would make good posters too in fact. I really liked the way the story is building in this issue. I'd say more but I like to give folks a chance to get and read it so I don't spoil too much. All I can say is that it has more of a "Sat AM Sonic" feel to it than most other issues. -- James Firmiss firmiss@cae.wisc.edu @[=g3,8d]\&fbb=-q]/hk%fg" From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 21:16:47 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA23022 for sonic-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:43:12 -0400 Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA23017 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:43:09 -0400 From: SoniadaH@aol.com Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA25268 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:42:39 -0400 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:42:39 -0400 Message-ID: <960420204237_518424075@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Posters... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Ya know what would be an awsome one? That credits page in the back of #25...awsome SpazHarvo. Suni~*=="Rip 'n Roar, Settle da Score, Bite da Bullet, Sockit to It!"==*~ --Suni da Hedgehog~Sister to the Fastest Thing Alive!~ $$$$$$$$$$ @ @ |\ | ************* $ @ @ | \ | $ @ @ | \ | * $$$$$$$$$$ @ @ | \ | * $ @ @ | \ | * $ @ @ | \ | $$$$$$$$$$ @ @ @ @ | \___| ************ And now, some quotes...:) *~"Fuzzies??! I'm a Fuzzie!!!!!"~*--Mitzi Abbacca LightStar *~"I spent 10 hours on Mobius.Net for THIS?!?!"~*--Mellisa 'Kopter' Prower *~"AAHH!!! IT MOVED!!!"~*--Saphire 'Speed' McSpiklen And know, some shameless promos...>:) *~Star Trek: Voyager meets Mobius Trek: Voygur---AAAHHH!!!~* *~Comming Soon! ShadowedLight WWW page!~* YES!!!!! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 22:48:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA26777 for sonic-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:45:14 -0400 Received: from mail.usa.net (postoffice.usa.net [192.156.196.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA26768 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:45:10 -0400 Received: from Zero.usa.net (port18.den1-annex.usa.net [165.212.158.118]) by mail.usa.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id TAA25338 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 19:45:04 -0600 Message-ID: <317157D7.B41@usa.net> Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 13:53:59 -0600 From: Jim Graba X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0GoldB1 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Sonic #36 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hey everybody! I just got Sonic #36 at the comic book shop today, and it's got two stories that you would NOT wanna miss! In any case, there are three specific pages to talk about. Part One: An ad for the Knuckles mini-series. Not only does it have a nifty triangle info box telling about this (hopefully) epic saga, it has a "For all audiences" box, AND at the bottom it has one of those things that you'd see for a movie ad(Sceenplay by Ken Penders and Mike Kanterovich; Directed by Art Mawhinney; etc.) The first two things are pretty cool 'cause it looks like the Sonic series (and its mini-series) is becoming much more serious (serious enough to warrant the "For all audiences" disclaimer). As for the third part, I can't expect a movie about this (although it would be way past cool), it sure got my attention! (It's just not fair to toy with my emotions like that!) Oh yeah, there’s the bug guy last seen in Chaotix #1 (I think). Part Two: The first page of Sonic-Grams. This had an above-average office humor comic AND it hinted at "Mecha Madness" (don't you hate it when these guys leave you hanging?!) Part Three: The second page of Sonic-Grams. A certain Kim Wessel was asking some questions that were suspiciously like the ones that this group has been asking about, like about the Sonic movie (answer: I [Sonic] hope so. It would be way, way past cool). In addition to this, it also has the next cover which shows Uncle Chuck, Sonic (of course), and Sally (unconsious, in Sonic's arm). Is it just me, or have the covers shown Sally in some very bad situations (in #28 she's shown beaten-up, in #29 she's being roboticized, in #31 she's being held by Dynamac-3000, in #32 she is holding onto Sonic so she doewn't fall down a mountain, and in #37 she's unconsious). Kyle Graba, lurker jgraba@usa.net From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 05:37:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id FAA03451 for sonic-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 05:25:52 -0400 Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id FAA03441 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 05:25:36 -0400 Received: from COMPAQ ([203.120.81.15]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA10732 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 17:25:28 +0800 X-Sender: vicl@po.pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: vicl@pacific.net.sg (Lye Victor) Subject: Fan - Fic again ... Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 17:25:28 +0800 Message-ID: <19960421092527.AAA10732@COMPAQ> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hi! Aaron again ! I won't take up too much space this time . Just a short note to inform you that " The Persecuted " , my continuation of " Of Foxes and Sorcery " is now available at the Freedom Fighters Command Central Gallery Section ( http://inet.uni-c.dk/~soniccsd/ ) Here's the description : Tails is settling into his new role as a Guardian quite easily . One eventful day , an injured creature apparently stumbles upon Knothole , seeking sanctuary. The creature displays special abilities upon recovery , but the Freedom Fighters soon discover that this creature has had differences with Angela , Tails' enigmatic mentor . The appearance of the creature brings out a dark side in Angela's personality , which has disastrous( and I mean disastrous ) effects on the creature , as well as on Tails ... You can also e-mail me for a copy at vicl@pacific.net.sg Enjoy . __________________________________________________________________________ Aaron Lye vicl@pacific.net.sg __________________________________________________________________________ StH JJ1 WkS+++ Son++ Sal++ Tal+++t Bun++" Rot~ Ant++ Nic+ Dul+ UnC0 Bks+ Rbk0 Snv--/+ Knu+ Mut+ P+ Df $+++ E27 Ay78 GM __________________________________________________________________________ This came from Singapore , the "Lion City"... __________________________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 12:03:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA21987 for sonic-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 11:38:17 -0400 Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id LAA21982 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 11:38:15 -0400 Received: from ppp2.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp2.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.32]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA05607 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:41:58 -0700 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:41:58 -0700 Message-Id: <199604211541.IAA05607@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Sonic #36 Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 01:53 PM 4/14/96 -0600, you wrote: >Hey everybody! > I just got Sonic #36 at the comic book shop today, and it's got >two stories that you would NOT wanna miss! In any case, there are three >specific pages to talk about. > > Part One: An ad for the Knuckles mini-series. Not only does it >have a nifty triangle info box telling about this (hopefully) epic saga, >it has a "For all audiences" box, AND at the bottom it has one of those >things that you'd see for a movie ad(Sceenplay by Ken Penders and Mike >Kanterovich; Directed by Art Mawhinney; etc.) The first two things are >pretty cool 'cause it looks like the Sonic series (and its mini-series) >is becoming much more serious (serious enough to warrant the "For all >audiences" disclaimer). As for the third part, I can't expect a movie >about this (although it would be way past cool), it sure got my >attention! (It's just not fair to toy with my emotions like that!) Oh >yeah, there's the bug guy last seen in Chaotix #1 (I think). > > Part Two: The first page of Sonic-Grams. This had an >above-average office humor comic AND it hinted at "Mecha Madness" (don't >you hate it when these guys leave you hanging?!) > > Part Three: The second page of Sonic-Grams. A certain Kim >Wessel was asking some questions that were suspiciously like the ones >that this group has been asking about, like about the Sonic movie >(answer: I [Sonic] hope so. It would be way, way past cool). In >addition to this, it also has the next cover which shows Uncle Chuck, >Sonic (of course), and Sally (unconsious, in Sonic's arm). Is it just >me, or have the covers shown Sally in some very bad situations (in #28 >she's shown beaten-up, in #29 she's being roboticized, in #31 she's >being held by Dynamac-3000, in #32 she is holding onto Sonic so she >doewn't fall down a mountain, and in #37 she's unconsious). > > Kyle Graba, lurker > jgraba@usa.net > > Sounds pretty cool, Kyle. I'll ride my bike up to all the local comic book stores today and check them out. Hmmmm. I wonder if I can scan that preview picture of #37 in Sonic-Grams, enlarge it, and print it out in color. Or maybe one of you guys out there can scan all the way cool Sonic covers so far and post them on your Sonic page. Hey! That might be a good idea! -Chris Flinn "ANTOINE!!!!!" [Grrrs] dflinn@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 20:38:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA21997 for sonic-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:58:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: bort.mv.net: majordomo set sender to owner-sonic using -f Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA21992 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:58:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailout3.prodigy.com (mailout3.prodigy.com [199.4.137.97]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA35136 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:58:19 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:58:03 EDT From: XXAX26B@prodigy.com (BRADY N HARTEL) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-086.45] Message-Id: <097.06528931.XXAX26B@prodigy.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Sonic Movie..... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net I just thought of this, but, If Tim Allen is doing a voice maybe Knuckles? and If NIcholson is doing a voice, maybe some sorta new enemy or robotnik? Ashura From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 22 00:47:12 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id AAA16384 for sonic-ll; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 00:37:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: bort.mv.net: majordomo set sender to owner-sonic using -f Received: from en.com (en.com [204.89.181.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id WAA00139 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 22:37:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.en.com (mighty.en.net [206.148.90.46]) by en.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id WAA20517 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 22:42:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199604220242.WAA20517@en.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Doug LoConti" Organization: Freedom Fighters To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:44:25 +0000 Subject: Re: Sonic Movie..... Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > I just thought of this, but, If Tim Allen is doing a voice maybe > Knuckles? and If NIcholson is doing a voice, maybe some sorta new > enemy or robotnik? There is another factor that we must all look at... this is the RUMOR factor.... there was a time, (some time ago), when Sega DENIED and DENIED the exsistence of the then upcoming game Sonic 2 for Genesis. HOWEVER, my inside source that that there WAS a sequel planned.... well, it turned out that my inside source was correct. So, as for this MOVIE, it could be that Tim & such may not be in it. Or perhaps, as said above, they aren't leads and such. Such something to keep in mind. BTW-you know what would be cool? Trent Reznor as Robotnik, Bruce Campbell as Sonic (or Rotor...) geez... I could make the cast. And Eddie Vedder as Tails, right? ;) Nope... too deep. Tails would need like a Bruce Dickenson, (Maiden Fans will understand that..) oh well... this is my first post in a while-just been so darned busy /w/ life and all.. you know how it is! Oh yeah, a BTW for all of you that HAVEN'T been on #sonic (irc)-CHECK it out.. :) It's pretty cool-we've got some nice people there. Welp, to everyone out there, good night Mobius (and Earth) -------------------------------------= =---------------- MIGHTY FOX is | "Oh help me Lamna or I'm sure I'll die, mighty@en.com | of please!" -==- | -Iron Maiden Doug LoConti | ---------= =-------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 22 09:19:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id IAA13737 for sonic-ll; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 08:45:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: bort.mv.net: majordomo set sender to owner-sonic using -f Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA13634 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 08:45:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA17609; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 08:45:03 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id IAA25704; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 08:45:02 -0400 Message-Id: <199604221245.IAA25704@edmund> Subject: Re: Sonic #36 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 08:45:01 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <317157D7.B41@usa.net> from "Jim Graba" at Apr 14, 96 01:53:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > > Hey everybody! > I just got Sonic #36 at the comic book shop today, and it's got > two stories that you would NOT wanna miss! In any case, there are three > specific pages to talk about. > I don't plan on missing it, but it probably won't hit the shelves here in Michigan (or my corner of it) until next week. > > Part Two: The first page of Sonic-Grams. This had an > above-average office humor comic AND it hinted at "Mecha Madness" (don't > you hate it when these guys leave you hanging?!) > You mean there's a chance that the office humor under Fred Mendez has actually gotten FUNNY? THIS I gotta see! > Part Three: The second page of Sonic-Grams. A certain Kim > Wessel was asking some questions that were suspiciously like the ones > that this group has been asking about, like about the Sonic movie > (answer: I [Sonic] hope so. It would be way, way past cool). They really ought to think about putting in a FAQ File. ;-) > In > addition to this, it also has the next cover which shows Uncle Chuck, > Sonic (of course), and Sally (unconsious, in Sonic's arm). Is it just > me, or have the covers shown Sally in some very bad situations (in #28 > she's shown beaten-up, in #29 she's being roboticized, in #31 she's > being held by Dynamac-3000, in #32 she is holding onto Sonic so she > doewn't fall down a mountain, and in #37 she's unconsious). > That's one of the problems where you've only got a few female leads, or fewer female leads than male leads at any rate. Not only does this lead to a very crowded lovelife, you're also limited to the number of damsels you can put in distress. I once thought of an idea for a story about Bunnie with the working title "All She Wants To Do Is Dance." The plot: Bunnie develops an uncontrollable urge to cut loose and have fun. So she high-tails it over to the Casino Night Zone to whoop it up, with a reluctant Antoine as her date/chaperone. I pictured the plot doing a flip-flop with Antoine being chased by Robotnik and Bunnie coming to the rescue in grand style: swinging from chandeliers, giving the Rebel Yell, the whole nine yards. Too bad I couldn't interest Archie in it; I think Manak could even have done justice by it. ================================================================ || ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen || |\__-- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu || | / __ _ ||Sonic: "Whoa, you're not going to || //\ / \ /__ || use the L-word, are you?" || | o| 0|__ --_ ||Tails: "Well...." || \\____-- __ \ ___ - ||Sonic: "Then I will...I love you, || (@@ __/ / /_ || little bro." || -_____--- --_ ||AoStH: "Tails' New Home" ================================================================ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 22 12:11:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA29735 for sonic-ll; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 11:52:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: bort.mv.net: majordomo set sender to owner-sonic using -f Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id LAA29703 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 11:52:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from COMPAQ ([203.120.80.128]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA27405 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 23:52:19 +0800 X-Sender: vicl@po.pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: vicl@pacific.net.sg (Lye Victor) Subject: Re : Fan - Fic again ... Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 23:52:19 +0800 Message-ID: <19960422155219.AAA27405@COMPAQ> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hi ! Aaron again . By now you should have gotten used to getting this message . Anyway , no complaints , I hope ? Here's the latest fan-fic that I've finished : It's called "Tides of War" , and it continues where "As the Wheel Turns" and "No Peace in Our Time" left off . This series chronocles the first civil war on Mobius , ten years after Snively's defeat . Here's the description : The tide of the Racial Wars , Mobius's first civil war , has turned in favor of the Alliance of Races , with the capture of a vital member of the Federated Races government . Unwillingly to let this be known to the public , the Federated Races cannot call on it's military to rescue the member , and it is up to the remaining Council members , mainly all ex-Freedom Fighters , to save that member . What is even more troubling is the discovery that all on the Council may not be all that they seem ... If you want a copy , e-mail me at vicl@pacific.net.sg for one . DO NOT REPLY TO THIS LIST . Or , this might be up at the Freedom Fighters Command Central - Gallery Section within a day or two . You can check it at http://inet.uni-c.dk/~soniccsd/ . Enjoy . You can also contact me for any of these fan-fics : Temporal Trouble Of Foxes and Sorcery I , II and III The Persecuted - continuation of "Of Foxes..." As the Wheel Turns No Peace in Our Time - continuation of "As the Wheel..." all written by me as well . ______________________________________________________________________________ Aaron Lye vicl@pacific.net.sg Webpage now under construction : Look out for the Sonic Fan-Fiction Archives! IRC nick : TailsProw ______________________________________________________________________________ StH JJ1 WkS+++ Son++ Sal++ Tal+++t Bun++" Rot~ Ant++ Nic+ Dul+ UnC0 Bks+ Rbk0 Snv--/+ Knu+ Mut+ P+ Df $+++ E27 Ay78 GM ______________________________________________________________________________ This came from Singapore , the "Lion City"... ______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 22 14:23:45 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id OAA10297 for sonic-ll; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 14:11:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: bort.mv.net: majordomo set sender to owner-sonic using -f Received: from mhv.net (root@csbh.mhv.net [199.0.0.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA10292 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 14:11:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aslan.com by mhv.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA23603; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 14:13:54 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 96 14:13:04 From: R_Kid@aslan.com (R Kid) Organization: Aslan Control Technologies,Inc. Subject: Re(2): Fanfic and Politics: A To: SUPERSTH@aol.com, sonic@bort.mv.net Message-Id: <1749670.ensmtp@aslan.com> Priority: normal X-Mailer: ExpressNet/SMTP v1.1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Us? We started bashing our VCR's in. :) However, one of my friends read Dan Drazen's FAQ and emailed FOX about the cancellation (you know, MMPR vs. Sonic,Sonic loses). I think they said something about them considering buying the rights to the show and making new eps if they got enough requests. Wonder if that offer still stands.... "The Terror That Hacks in the Night" Geson Hatchett/Racewing Kid Writer for BOTH... awww, you know. Quote of the day: "This is me, the channel 'bot." -waypast, the only one that ever seems to be on the Sonic IRC channel :-) Racewing ghatchet.98@diana.hchs.hunter.cuny.edu, r_kid@aslan.com Sonikode: Breezie++! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 22 19:10:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA29753 for sonic-ll; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:04:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com (emout13.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.39]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA29734 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:04:38 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA15161 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:04:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:04:08 -0400 Message-ID: <960422180407_196413677@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: The Sonic Anime Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Well I didn't say it was BAD, I said that because those are the kind of pics that I wanted on my computer. You know, the Sonic Japanimation pics from DieHard? From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 22 19:10:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA29754 for sonic-ll; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:04:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com (emout15.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.41]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA29747 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:04:41 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@AOL.COM Received: by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA07731 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:04:10 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:04:10 -0400 Message-ID: <960422180409_196413695@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Sega looks at Sonic like Disney looks at Mickey?!?!?! Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Now that really ticks me off. Disney makes sure that Mickey is a totally non-violent, cutsey-wootsey, baby-bib-model wuss. Now if Sonic ever get's like that I won't be such a diehard fan of him anymore. SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 22 19:11:59 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA29767 for sonic-ll; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:05:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA29762 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:04:57 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA07856 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:04:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:04:12 -0400 Message-ID: <960422180411_196413719@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Tell Archie to make Posters Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net This is SO TRUE!!! Archie really needs to make some Sonic posters (I think the best one to make would be of the S Sonic vs. H Knuckles cover... oh, dare I imagine....). The ones I have kinda $uck, because I have no idea where you can get any cool ones, but I know that if Archie started making some posters then I'd be a heckuva satified and dedicated customer. SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 22 19:22:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA29748 for sonic-ll; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:04:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA29733 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:04:38 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA26842 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:04:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:04:08 -0400 Message-ID: <960422180406_196413667@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Sonic.... out of a job?! Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Oh, no, I'm not mistaken. You all might think that I don't know what I'm talking about, but I sure as heck do. I don't know, maybe the Sega Representative that told me this was lying or didn't have the facts straight, but he did tell me that in a year or so Sonic may NOT be their mascot anymore, THEY ARE NOT SURE (I hope they soon become sure that Sonic will forever be their mascot). The reason why is because they said that they are thinking of having a new mascot for the Saturn that is a little bit older. Yes, Sonic is coming out with games for the Saturn, which I truly think rules and I can't wait to buy them the day they come out, but that does not mean that he will eternally be their mascot. Look, if you're not gonna believe me, fine. But when I called Sega and heard this dreaded sentence.... "We are thinking of having a slightly older mascot for the 32-bit generation..." It just plain shocked the s*** outta me. I From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 22 21:20:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA09649 for sonic-ll; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 20:23:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from osceola.cs.ucf.edu (osceola.cs.ucf.edu [132.170.108.35]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA20650 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 16:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alfred.UUCP by osceola.cs.ucf.edu (4.1/1.34) id AA17641; Mon, 22 Apr 96 16:29:50 EDT Received: by alfred.oau.org (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1) id ; Mon, 22 Apr 96 15:53 EDT Received: by satlink.oau.org (0.99.950801) id AA03749; 22 Apr 96 15:53:20 -0500 From: Jeff.Leadbeater%281@satlink.oau.org (Jeff Leadbeater) Date: 22 Apr 96 15:46:14 -0400 Subject: RE: Sonic Movie... Message-Id: Organization: Central Florida Sat-Link To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net They HAVE to keep Jaleel White as Sonic. Once you get one guy's voice as Sonic, you can't get it off. Besides...it could be Jaleel's big movie break!... Also, my 2 cents on the Sonic games. I can't WAIT to get my hands on the PC version! Sonic CD Forever! Jeff Leadbeater leadbeaj@pixelstorm.com TLKMuck, FurryMuck, and FurTooniaMuck S+!" Rot+++^i Ant~ UnC++i cSi?u D Erase previous line StH JJ1 WkS++ AdS+++ Arc++ Son+++i Sal+++! Tal+++ Bun+++!" Rot+++^i Ant~ UnC++i Rbk--- Snv~~` (Sorry. Trying to paste from word processor, but failed. Most of the important info is there.) Bun+++!!! (heh) -- |Fidonet: Jeff Leadbeater 1:363/281 |Internet: Jeff.Leadbeater%281@satlink.oau.org | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. | From C.F.Satlink +1-407-240-7781 (ANSI or Vt-100 _required_). From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 22 21:51:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA13448 for sonic-ll; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 21:18:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA13443 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 21:18:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.41]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA28444 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:22:22 -0700 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:22:22 -0700 Message-Id: <199604230122.SAA28444@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Sega looks at Sonic like Disney looks at Mickey?!?!?! Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 06:04 PM 4/22/96 -0400, you wrote: >Now that really ticks me off. Disney makes sure that Mickey is a totally >non-violent, cutsey-wootsey, baby-bib-model wuss. Now if Sonic ever get's >like that I won't be such a diehard fan of him anymore. > >SUPER STH@aol.com > >"Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic > Well said. -Chris From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 22 23:03:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA18203 for sonic-ll; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 22:39:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id WAA18197 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 22:39:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp11.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.41]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA29448 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 19:43:21 -0700 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 19:43:21 -0700 Message-Id: <199604230243.TAA29448@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Sonic IRC Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hi, all, Sonic IRC is cool, but it would be way cooler if we had more users. Hey guys you are missing out. Anyway we hope it is still cool if we don't get more users. Anyway, try it out! I'll try to be there every day. -Chris Flinn dflinn@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us IRC nickname: speedboy From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 23 05:17:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id EAA25545 for sonic-ll; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 04:59:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca ([206.75.222.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id EAA25540 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 04:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA15402; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 02:51:08 -0600 Received: by ender.cuug.ab.ca (V1.17-beta.31{ask@castrov.UUCP/10}/Amiga) id <9wl8@ender.cuug.ab.ca>; Tue, 23 Apr 96 02:42:17 MDT Received: by sago.cuc.ab.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1(sago-1.3)) id AA14539; Tue, 23 Apr 96 02:36:02 MDT Date: Tue, 23 Apr 96 02:36:02 MDT Message-Id: <9604230836.AA14539@sago.cuc.ab.ca> From: uug@sago.cuc.ab.ca (William Graham) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic #36 Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Kyle Graba writes: > Part One: An ad for the Knuckles mini-series. Not only does it > have a nifty triangle info box telling about this (hopefully) epic saga, > it has a "For all audiences" box, AND at the bottom it has one of those > things that you'd see for a movie ad (Sceenplay by Ken Penders and Mike > Kanterovich; Directed by Art Mawhinney; etc.) This is a _big_ hint... As the 3rd Walker said in "Ring of Truth", "Nothing is hidden -- only unseen!" I think it's the closest that the Archie Sonic Team can come to telling us there's a Sonic Movie on the way, without actually coming right out and saying so. > Part Three: The second page of Sonic-Grams. A certain Kim > Wessel was asking some questions that were suspiciously like the ones > that this group has been asking about, like about the Sonic movie > (answer: I [Sonic] hope so. It would be way, way past cool). I doubt the selection of which Sonic-Grams to print is random, but rather I expect they are carefully selected to allow the editor to at least raise various topics with us (the readers), even if he can't give definitive answers before Sega's announcement dates. - William Graham - a net.freedom-fighter for a free Mobius! - From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 23 13:53:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA29816 for sonic-ll; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 13:45:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgfn.epcc.Edu (rgfn.epcc.edu [206.42.175.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA29805 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 13:45:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rgfn.epcc.Edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20466; Tue, 23 Apr 96 11:45:00 MDT Date: Tue, 23 Apr 96 11:45:00 MDT Message-Id: <9604231745.AA20466@rgfn.epcc.Edu> From: ab360@rgfn.epcc.edu (John W. Johnston) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sega looks at Sonic like Disney looks at Mickey?!?!?! Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Now that really ticks me off. Disney makes sure that Mickey is a totally >non-violent, cutsey-wootsey, baby-bib-model wuss. Now if Sonic ever get's >like that I won't be such a diehard fan of him anymore. I don't think that is what he meant. I believe he meant, like for example, when someone mentiones Sega, you think Sonic; when you hear Disney, you think Mickey. -- ab360@rgfn.epcc.edu or http://rgfn.epcc.edu/users/ab360/tails.html John W. Johnston | StH JJ1 tFF++ Tal+++it Amy+++ | From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 23 14:40:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id OAA02675 for sonic-ll; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 14:05:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id OAA02665 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 14:05:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from COMPAQ ([203.120.80.96]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA2841 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 02:04:55 +0800 X-Sender: vicl@po.pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: vicl@pacific.net.sg (Lye Victor) Subject: Re : Sonic website Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 02:04:55 +0800 Message-ID: <19960423180454.AAA2841@COMPAQ> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net This is Aaron again ! Just a short note before I get into the message proper : "Tides of War" - my latest fanfic is available at these two websites : http://inet.uni-c.dk/~soniccsd/ : Freedom Fighters Command Central http://home.pacific.net.sg/~vicl/ : The Sonic Fan-Fiction Archives Now for the main topic : I just completed my Sonic web page . With the rat.org fan fiction section down , it would seem that there are very few (if any) sites for fan-fics to be uploaded . Therefore , I've just turned my webpage into a Sonic Fan Fiction Archive of sorts . All fan-fics can be sent there from now on . There's also some other Sonic stuff , but the majority of the page is devoted to fan-fic . At the moment , I'm rather short of stories , but I'm counting on all you budding fanfic authors out there to support me and send your stuff to me . I've also included my very own "rating system" for fanfics , which should act as a rough guide for those interested . Check out the page for details . It's best viewed with Netscape 2.0 . Currently featured on the Archive : Temporal Trouble Of Foxes and Sorcery I to III The Persecuted As the Wheel Turns No Peace in Our Time Tides of War My Brother's Keeper Evolution of a Predator Capture the Flag Other Sonics - The Barbarian Enjoy . ______________________________________________________________________________ Aaron Lye vicl@pacific.net.sg The Sonic Fan Fiction Archives : http://home.pacific.net.sg/~vicl/ IRC nick : TailsProw ______________________________________________________________________________ StH JJ1 WkS+++ Son++ Sal++ Tal+++t Bun++" Rot~ Ant++ Nic+ Dul+ UnC0 Bks+ Rbk0 Snv--/+ Knu+ Mut+ P+ Df $+++ E27 Ay78 GM ______________________________________________________________________________ This came from Singapore , the "Lion City"... ______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 23 20:25:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA29621 for sonic-ll; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 19:51:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from eden-backend.rutgers.edu (eden-backend.rutgers.edu [165.230.208.130]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA29612 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 19:51:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lex.dorm.rutgers.edu (lex.dorm.rutgers.edu [128.6.139.12]) by eden-backend.rutgers.edu (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA29989 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 19:51:13 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960423235113.20a71ecc@eden-backend.rutgers.edu> X-Sender: empire@eden-backend.rutgers.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 19:51:13 -0400 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Michael Kraft Subject: Jaleel White, sonic movies, ect... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Well I received a national college magazine called U. Magazine (May) today and they had an article about "Star-Studded Students." Anyway to get to the point, Jaleel White (voice of Sonic in DIC cartoons) was featured and it mentioned he went to UCLA, so I loaded up UCLA's student directory and sure enough he was there. Well a few things: 1. They give his address and phone number there, but I'm not about to call him up and ask him why Sonic was canceled or if there will be a movie. 2. It mentions in the article that he is working on a "screenplay about basketball from a dramatic standpoint." Mentions nothing about Sonic. I suppose I could give out his phone number and address, but if I figure if you want it bad enough you can just look it up yourself at http:/www.ucla.edu in the student directory. Plus that way I don't feel like I'm invading his privacy by revealing his location. Michael Kraft (empire@eden.rutgers.edu) Computer Engineering Student Rutgers University, NJ, USA URL = http://remus.rutgers.edu/~empire From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 24 07:54:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id HAA27342 for sonic-ll; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 07:48:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail (canal.iaw.on.ca [204.225.37.33]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA27333 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 07:48:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nb1-11.iaw.on.ca by mail with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0uC34G-000bC0C; Wed, 24 Apr 96 07:49 EDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 24 Apr 96 07:49 EDT X-Sender: butcher@iaw.on.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: butcher@iaw.on.ca (Paul Lapensee) Subject: Re: Jaleel White, sonic movies, ect... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Well I received a national college magazine called U. Magazine (May) today >and they had an article about "Star-Studded Students." Anyway to get to the >point, Jaleel White (voice of Sonic in DIC cartoons) was featured and it >mentioned he went to UCLA, so I loaded up UCLA's student directory and sure >enough he was there. > Well a few things: > 1. They give his address and phone number there, but I'm not about >to call him up and ask him why Sonic was canceled or if there >will be a > movie. > > 2. It mentions in the article that he is working on a "screenplay >about basketball from a dramatic standpoint." Mentions nothing >about Sonic. > >I suppose I could give out his phone number and address, but if I figure if >you want it bad enough you can just look it up yourself at >http:/www.ucla.edu in the student directory. Plus that way I don't feel like >I'm invading his privacy by revealing his location. > >Michael Kraft (empire@eden.rutgers.edu) >Computer Engineering Student >Rutgers University, NJ, USA >URL = http://remus.rutgers.edu/~empire > > If anything just ask if he has any Internet access and wishs to talk about his role as Sonic's voice on here. Thats if he cares. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 24 09:57:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id JAA06022 for sonic-ll; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 09:24:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com (emout08.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.23]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA06010 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 09:24:50 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA22389 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 09:24:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 09:24:20 -0400 Message-ID: <960424092420_520853109@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic Movie..... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Wasn't the letter about voices already posted on here? > Tim Allen doing Knuckles... > Nicholson doing a new enemy or Robotnik... Now is it just me or did this appear twice? SUPER STH@aol.com "Who needs luck when you've got talent?!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 24 10:19:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id JAA06023 for sonic-ll; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 09:24:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA06016 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 09:24:52 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA13015 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 09:24:21 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 09:24:21 -0400 Message-ID: <960424092418_520853105@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic #36 Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >....or maybe one of you guys out there can scan all the way cool Sonic covers so far >and post them on your Sonic page. Hey! That might be a good idea! Talk about it! Too bad my printer sucks (it's a 1980 dot-matrix black and white), but if anyone can actually scan the covers... PLEASE DO!! SUPER STH@aol.com "Who needs luck when you've got talent?!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 24 10:20:52 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id JAA06017 for sonic-ll; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 09:24:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com (emout19.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.45]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA06006 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 09:24:49 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA02361 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 09:24:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 09:24:19 -0400 Message-ID: <960424092418_520853096@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic #36 Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >Is it me, or have the covers shown Sally in some very bad situations... You know why? Because what better way to grab the readers attention than to place a very important character in a terrible position? Think about it... when you saw Sally roboticized on the cover, didn't you want to read it REALLY bad? SUPER STH@aol.com "Life is a blast, as long as you don't stop to think about it!" - Sonic P.S: ALL AOL MEMBERS ON THIS LIST please E-mail me. It's kinda boring having no one to talk to in the general chat rooms around here. :-( From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 24 10:47:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id JAA06039 for sonic-ll; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 09:24:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA06025 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 09:24:56 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA28833; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 09:24:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 09:24:22 -0400 Message-ID: <960424092421_520853112@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: R_Kid@aslan.com, sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Re(2): Fanfic and Politics: A Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Before I start I gotta say it... love the quote!! N E wayz, about buying the rights to the show, if anyone ever does Knuckles should be in the "premiere" episode... that's bound to catch some nifty ratings. I'd say re-title it Sonic & Knuckles (which would DEFINITELY catch some ratings), but that'd be a little much, considering that an episode in which Knuckles doesn't star or appear in wouldn't be thought of as a Sonic & Knuckles episode. Then again, they did it with Batman & Robin. :-) SUPER STH@aol.com "Who needs luck when you've got talent?!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 24 10:48:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id JAA06041 for sonic-ll; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 09:25:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA06026 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 09:24:56 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA14678 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 09:24:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 09:24:26 -0400 Message-ID: <960424092425_520853133@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic #36 Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >You mean there's a chance that the office humor under Fred Mendez has actually >gotten funny? THIS I gotta see! Oh so true. I just got #36 (Date: 22nd of April, you know what year) and the comic strip is great (but I won't spoil it). Also, the cover of #37 is okay, but I don't know why everyone is making such a big fuss about it. Until I see it up close and personal, I don't think it's that hot. Hopefully I'll be eating my words when that comic is in my hands! And that "mystery" knight (he he he) shocked me pretty good. Can't wait 'till next month... oh, and to believe that last year I though things were getting good! Now they're getting so good that... well... I can't think of a word to describe it! SUPER STH@aol.com "Who needs luck when you've got talent?!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 24 10:51:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA09769 for sonic-ll; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 10:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout17.mail.aol.com (emout17.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.43]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA09764 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 10:01:59 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA14612 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 10:01:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 10:01:28 -0400 Message-ID: <960424100128_279482339@emout17.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic IRC Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net About the Sonic IRC chat... anyone know what IRC channels work the best? I keep trying to use it and I can't hook up with ANY of the channels!! SUPER STH "Who needs luck when you've got talent?!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 24 10:59:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA09801 for sonic-ll; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 10:02:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA09777 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 10:02:06 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@AOL.COM Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA15928 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 10:01:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 10:01:35 -0400 Message-ID: <960424100133_279482370@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sega looks at Sonic like Disney looks at Mickey?!?!?! Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >I don't think that is what he meant. I believe he meant, like for example, when >someone mentiones Sega, you think Sonic; when you hear Disney, you think >Mickey. Yes, I know that he also meant to make that point clear. But do not forget that SOA was having second thoughts about releasing Sonic The Fighters in the US due to it being violent, and involving Sonic. SUPER STH@aol.com "Who needs luck when you've got talent?!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 24 11:17:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA09802 for sonic-ll; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 10:02:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com (emout13.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.39]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA09780 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 10:02:07 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA17433 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 10:01:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 10:01:35 -0400 Message-ID: <960424100135_279482376@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Jaleel White, sonic movies, ect... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >If anything just ask if he has any Internet access and wishs to talk about his role as >Sonic's voice on here. Thats if he cares. Man, you ever heard of taking a typing grammar class? Just kidding. ;-) Back to the point, that is a good idea. Of course I doubt that he would have the time to do such a thing, but it's worth a shot, and it doesn't hurt to ask. If they did get someone else to do Sonic's voice for a movie... who would it be? Hmm... SUPER STH@aol.com "Who needs luck when you've got talent?!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 24 11:22:45 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA09793 for sonic-ll; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 10:02:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA09770 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 10:02:04 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA13353 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 10:01:33 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 10:01:33 -0400 Message-ID: <960424100132_279482363@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic.... out of a job?! Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net About how Japan portrays Sonic, I agree that their hedgehog is way better than ours (hypothetically speaking). It's such a shame that, here in the good 'ol US of A, those in high power perfer 'wussy' to 'awesome' (by youth rating standards). I mean, come on! People say that someday, the sloppyness and weakness of the US will be its downfall... Back to the subject, Sega should let down on Sonic easy. Apparently, Nintendo will never let down on Mario (look at the game coming packed in with the N64!!), but that's their problem. It's not anyone else's fault that they have no imagination. And about Nights... I've already heard of it. Hey, if it's being done with one of the creators of Sonic, it already sounds interesting to me. SUPER STH@aol.com "Who needs luck when you've got talent?!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 24 11:28:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA16621 for sonic-ll; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 11:16:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com (emout15.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.41]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA16615 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 11:16:57 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@AOL.COM Received: by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA25399 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 11:16:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 11:16:26 -0400 Message-ID: <960424111625_477163326@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Who's uploading stories? Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net I have a story written by RAZ0R H@aol.com (spelled R-A-Z-zero-R H). It's only the first chapter, but it's interesting... Anyone want to upload it to their web page? SUPER STH@aol.com "Who needs luck when you've got talent?!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 24 12:34:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id MAA21135 for sonic-ll; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 12:18:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from eden-backend.rutgers.edu (eden-backend.rutgers.edu [165.230.208.130]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA21125 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 12:18:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lex.dorm.rutgers.edu (lex.dorm.rutgers.edu [128.6.139.12]) by eden-backend.rutgers.edu (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA24795 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 12:18:28 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960424161829.1fdf15c0@eden-backend.rutgers.edu> X-Sender: empire@eden-backend.rutgers.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 12:18:29 -0400 To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Michael Kraft Subject: Re: Jaleel White, sonic movies, ect... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net William Graham wrote: >Giving him a phone call would definately be invading his privacy. >But I don't think a fan letter would be amiss. Some universities >have email accounts for all their students now, so I wonder if >Jaleel has email, and if so, whether he actually uses it. Then Paul Lapensee wrote: >If anything just ask if he has any Internet access and wishs to talk about his >role as Sonic's voice on here. Thats if he cares. > It says he lives off campus (which makes sense). It doesn't list an email address for him, though it does for some other students there. I suppose giving out the snail mail address won't hurt since it was publicized anyway. Write to: name: White, Jaleel Ahmad address: PO BOX 580, AGOURA HILLS, CA 91376 Note: this is listed as his off-campus mailing address. I don't know how often he checks this. If you do write him, please be tasteful. Michael Kraft (empire@eden.rutgers.edu) Computer Engineering Student Rutgers University, NJ, USA URL = http://remus.rutgers.edu/~empire From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 24 12:46:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id MAA21715 for sonic-ll; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 12:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id MAA21703 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 12:30:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from COMPAQ ([203.120.80.80]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA3542 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 00:29:27 +0800 X-Sender: vicl@po.pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: vicl@pacific.net.sg (Lye Victor) Subject: Re : Fanfics again ... Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 00:29:27 +0800 Message-ID: <19960424162926.AAA3542@COMPAQ> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Once again , it's me promoting my fan-fics . This time it's a continuation of the Of Foxes and Sorcery series and it's set immediately after the event in "The Persecuted" . You'll find out exactly what relation Tasha the Guardian is to Bunnie , and some other stuff . Check out the description . It's called "Visions of Truth" Tasha settles into life at Knothole as Tails' new mentor quickly . However , several Freedom Fighters start having strange visions in the form of dreams ... Dreams that may be showing what the future holds for Tails .... and the only one who has any idea what the dreams mean is Tasha ... Well , if you find it interesting , you have two options . E-mail me at vicl@pacific.net.sg for your own copy of the story ... or You can read it at the Sonic Fan-Fiction Archives , which incidentally is run by me , at http://home.pacific.net.sg/~vicl/ Enjoy ! ______________________________________________________________________________ Aaron Lye vicl@pacific.net.sg The Sonic Fan Fiction Archives : http://home.pacific.net.sg/~vicl/ IRC nick : TailsProw ______________________________________________________________________________ StH JJ1 WkS+++ Son++ Sal++ Tal+++t Bun++" Rot~ Ant++ Nic+ Dul+ UnC0 Bks+ Rbk0 Snv--/+ Knu+ Mut+ P+ Df $+++ E27 Ay78 GM ______________________________________________________________________________ This came from Singapore , the "Lion City"... ______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 24 13:27:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA26273 for sonic-ll; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 13:16:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.4.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id NAA26260 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 13:16:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sun-5.cae.wisc.edu (sun-5.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.69.181]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with ESMTP id MAA27933 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 12:15:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from firmiss@localhost) by sun-5.cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) id MAA07656; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 12:15:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 12:15:45 -0500 (CDT) From: James Firmiss To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Jaleel White, sonic movies, ect... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Wed, 24 Apr 1996, Paul Lapensee wrote: > Well I received a national college magazine called U. Magazine (May) > today and they had an article about "Star-Studded Students." Anyway to > get to the point, Jaleel White (voice of Sonic in DIC cartoons) was > featured and it mentioned he went to UCLA, so I loaded up UCLA's > student directory and sure enough he was there. The article just mentioned Jaleel's role as Steve Urkel on 'Family Matters'. He mentioned how if a girl askes him to do an Urkel impression or imitates Urkel by saying "Did I do that?" in a nasal whiney voice, then the date is over. I saw an interview with Jaleel and he was asked to do 'Do Urkel' (which he refused) so I guess he gets pretty sick of it (based on personal experience). Back around 1985 I had done some voices for a home movie featuring plush toys strung up like puppets. I voiced 'Hubert' (A Hubert Doll from the Harris Bank), and even though it was seen by only a handful of friends and family, I had gotten sick of requests to 'do Hubert' rather quickly. I can just see him coming out with a book in the year 2006 titled, "I am not Urkel" after a few thousand more Urkel impression requests where he vents his hatred for being typecast as a nerd and tells of his other, more serious, acting roles. I can also see him coming out with another book in the year 2026 titled, "I am Urkel"... ( alternately titled, "Did I do that?" ) where he lightens up and gets over the fact that he had been typecast into 'nerd' roles. Okay... Maybe not. ... And now for something Sonic related: I have to wonder if he feels the same about his role as Sonic the Hedgehog. I'm guessing he doesn't have as many requests for 'Sonic' impersonations. I also have to wonder if he thinks of 'Sonic' as 'just another job' or if he has a greater regard for Sonic as a character. Its wishful thinking but I think it would be great if Jaleel White were to join this list even if he only posted about once a month. -- James Firmiss firmiss@cae.wisc.edu @[=g3,8d]\&fbb=-q]/hk%fg" From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 24 14:15:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA29410 for sonic-ll; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 13:53:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA29374 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 13:53:08 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA09923 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 13:52:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 13:52:37 -0400 Message-ID: <960424135236_381795052@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Jaleel White, sonic movies, ect... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net About Jaleel getting mad when someone asks him to do impersonations, I totally understand. When I was younger, I did several puppet play performances, and had to do two different voices. After hearng a whole bunch of kids ask me to do the voices a million times, I honestly GOT SICK OF IT!!! And it would be cool if he joined this list... like it'll happen. (Shoot, if it does, that'd rule.) SUPER STH@aol.com "Who needs luck when you've got talent?!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 24 18:56:38 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA22170 for sonic-ll; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 18:33:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA22165 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 18:33:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ppp13.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp13.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.43]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA13897 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 15:37:15 -0700 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 15:37:15 -0700 Message-Id: <199604242237.PAA13897@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Sonic IRC Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 10:01 AM 4/24/96 -0400, you wrote: >About the Sonic IRC chat... anyone know what IRC channels work the best? I >keep trying to use it and I can't hook up with ANY of the channels!! > >SUPER STH > >"Who needs luck when you've got talent?!" - Sonic > irc.mcs.com works, irc.mo.net works, irc.cris.com works (sometimes). There you go. -Chris F. speedboy From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 24 19:34:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA25240 for sonic-ll; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 19:08:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from use.usit.net (acme@use.usit.net [199.1.48.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA25234 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 19:08:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA10548; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 19:08:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 19:08:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) Team OS/2" To: Sonic Post Subject: New Sonic Merchandise List Message-ID: Organization: Rebel Alliance of Mobius MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net I have uploaded a new Merchandise List, v4.0.0x. http://rat.org/sonic/merchandise.html There are several new and revised listings. I have had to also add a number of disclaimers and the like because of receiving e-mail from a fair number of people who seem to think the list is a "for sale" list or catalog, which it is not. As always, submissions for unlisted items are welcome. I also hope that someone can clarify the "unknown" item, #99-01. Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog StH JJ1 Son+ Sal++ Tal++++t Nic+i Rot+i Lup+ P++ Dopw $+++ E25 Ay68 Mail: acme@use.usit.net | WWW: http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~eschulma From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 24 19:56:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA24620 for sonic-ll; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 18:50:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA24615 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 18:50:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ppp13.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp13.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.43]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA14095 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 15:53:10 -0700 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 15:53:10 -0700 Message-Id: <199604242253.PAA14095@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: Jaleel White, sonic movies, ect... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > >I have to wonder if he feels the same about his role as Sonic the >Hedgehog. I'm guessing he doesn't have as many requests for 'Sonic' >impersonations. I also have to wonder if he thinks of 'Sonic' as 'just >another job' or if he has a greater regard for Sonic as a character. > >Its wishful thinking but I think it would be great if Jaleel White were >to join this list even if he only posted about once a month. > I wish I knew. He probably thinks of Sonic as another job, since he has never mentioned it. Yes, that would be 'way past cool' if Jaleel did join this list. I'm sure he'd get at least 30 letters a day. Man, that would take a lond time to answer all of them. I'm sure he has his reasons. -Chris F. dflinn@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us >-- > James Firmiss firmiss@cae.wisc.edu > >@[=g3,8d]\&fbb=-q]/hk%fg" > > From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 24 22:34:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA06623 for sonic-ll; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 21:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA06615 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 21:41:42 -0400 (EDT) From: SonicKC@aol.com Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA07005 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 21:41:12 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 21:41:12 -0400 Message-ID: <960424214108_477658138@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Fan-Fiction Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net I know this may be considered as off-topic, but I feel that this is an issue which warrants a discussion about the rules here. As many, if not all, of you know, I am currently in the process of writing a fan-fic called Hearts of Steel. The story is about Mecha-Sonic being freed from Robotnik and joining the Freedom Fighters (if you want the full preview, just check my first post). Imagine how disappointed and upset I was to find that someone had written a story using almost the same title and plot; I announced Hearts of Steel about 2-3 weeks ago, and this story was added between Monday afternoon and today. By now I'm sure that some of you are jumping up and down to tell me that this could just be a coincidence, but I find that hard to believe. I will not give the author or title, but I will say that the title was similar enough that if you replaced one word with the word "of", and switched the order around, you would get my title. The plot was way too similar (almost exactly the same), and the fact that it was just uploaded makes me very suspicious that this is a minor case of plagiarism that we're dealing with here, which makes me rather upset and angry. This makes me very reluctant to share my ideas again, since I always thought that it was safe to give a short preview of your stories without worrying that they will be copied. I thought we had a sort of code of honesty here! I am writing this as a hope that the author will see this and feel at least a little guilty for what they did and also to try and help prevent this sort of thing from happening in the future. =( P.S. to the author: You're welcome to use my ideas, but I wish that you had let me know first! =( From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 25 00:13:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA19001 for sonic-ll; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 23:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from inet.uni-c.dk (inet.uni-c.dk [130.228.6.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA18991 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 23:56:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from arh142.ppp.uni-c.dk (arh142.ppp.uni-c.dk [130.228.13.142]) by inet.uni-c.dk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA29166 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 05:52:24 +0200 Received: by arh142.ppp.uni-c.dk with Microsoft Mail id <01BB326B.A796FBC0@arh142.ppp.uni-c.dk>; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 05:54:23 +-200 Message-ID: <01BB326B.A796FBC0@arh142.ppp.uni-c.dk> From: Michael Emil Hansen To: "'sonic@bort.mv.net'" Subject: RE: Who's uploading stories? Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 05:18:30 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BB326B.AACBE800" Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB326B.AACBE800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---------- From: SUPERSTH@AOL.COM[SMTP:SUPERSTH@AOL.COM] Sent: 24, april 1996 17.16 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Who's uploading stories? I have a story written by RAZ0R H@aol.com (spelled R-A-Z-zero-R H). = It's only the first chapter, but it's interesting... Anyone want to upload it to their web page? 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Part of it is in the nature of the players. If you're going to write about Mecha-Sonic, there really isn't much you can do with him/it. Mecha-Sonic can either: A) continue to harrass the Freedom Fighters B) join them but eventually be recalled by Robotnik C) join them Everything else is a variation on the above themes. What permits this situation is the fact that Mecha-Sonic is still a relative unknown. The character's character (if you follow me) is not that well defined. So fanfic writers like us are left to fill in the blanks. Do we make him sympathetic (a la Mr. Data) or a nemesis (c.f. Packbell)? That's why I almost prefer writing about Sally and the other Knothole freedom fighters. There's not as much ambiguity about their characters. You know what the boundaries are and how they'd react in a given situation; you also know what would be totally out of character for the character (which was actually my biggest objection to the portrayals in the infamous "Tail" story -- the characters just weren't true to themselves). As for plot disclosure, it's a fine art. One should say enough to hook the curious without saying too much. It's more a tease than a summation. For instance, when discussing the plot of "Capture the Flag" I let the main point be that the story takes place when most of the freedom fighters were only ten years old, without going into any detail as to what happens to them. I had to walk an even finer tightrope when discussing "Bloodlines" lest I tip off the plot alltogether. And when I go into serious detail, such as my mentioning a piece with the working title "All She Wants To Do Is Dance" it's a sure sign that I've done all I can with it and am abandoning work on it, if only for the moment. Just a few things I learned along the way: ================================================================ || ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen || |\__-- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu || | / __ _ ||Sonic: "Whoa, you're not going to || //\ / \ /__ || use the L-word, are you?" || | o| 0|__ --_ ||Tails: "Well...." || \\____-- __ \ ___ - ||Sonic: "Then I will...I love you, || (@@ __/ / /_ || little bro." || -_____--- --_ ||AoStH: "Tails' New Home" ================================================================ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 25 11:35:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA13837 for sonic-ll; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 10:55:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout16.mail.aol.com (emout16.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA13828 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 10:55:28 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@AOL.COM Received: by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA26504 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 10:54:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 10:54:57 -0400 Message-ID: <960425105456_477996797@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Jaleel White, sonic movies, ect... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >He probably thinks of Sonic as another job... Well, duh. I mean, if I was the voice behind one of the dumbest, most annoying shows in the word (the weekday morning one, mind you), I wouldn't tell anyone either. And the Saturday morning show wasn't on long enough for people to take much notice ot it... most people hear "Sonic cartoon," and think "stupid kiddie show that's on every day." It's true, you know. SUPER STH@aol.com "Who needs luck when you've got talent?!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 25 16:00:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA05828 for sonic-ll; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 15:10:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mhv.net (root@csbh.mhv.net [199.0.0.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA05820 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 15:10:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aslan.com by mhv.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AB06839; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 15:13:06 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 96 15:15:06 From: R_Kid@aslan.com (R Kid) Organization: Aslan Control Technologies,Inc. Subject: not a flame To: sonic@bort.mv.net Message-Id: <1761147.ensmtp@aslan.com> Priority: normal X-Mailer: ExpressNet/SMTP v1.1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sorry, but I have to say this. I cherish the day when Dave Pistone comes back or someone starts a new fanfic web page. Granted, I've written some stories myself, but if I see one more fanfic ad in my inbox, I'm gonna SCREAM!!! Later. The Terror That Hacks in the NightGeson Hatchett/Racewing Kid Quote o' the day: Peg: Who would you rather spend the night with: A, your wife, B.... Al: B. Racewing ghatchet.98@diana.hchs.hunter.cuny.edu, r_kid@aslan.com Sonikode: Breezie++! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 25 19:56:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA24789 for sonic-ll; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 19:30:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout17.mail.aol.com (emout17.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.43]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA24782 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 19:30:03 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA26280 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 19:29:33 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 19:29:33 -0400 Message-ID: <960425192931_382849438@emout17.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: New comic, not by Archie? Yeah, right... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net My best friend's friend's brother's girlfriend (did you catch that right?) told my best friend's friend that a new Sonic comic that has never been done before (and isn't going to be done by Archie) that has never been done before is going to be created. Could someone please send me some sort of letter proving her wrong? SUPER STH@aol.com "Who needs luck when you've got talent?!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 25 20:16:47 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA27765 for sonic-ll; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 19:56:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout16.mail.aol.com (emout16.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA27760 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 19:56:53 -0400 (EDT) From: DGonterman@aol.com Received: by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA10218 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 19:56:23 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 19:56:23 -0400 Message-ID: <960425195622_478413595@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Who's uploading stories? Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net In a message dated 96-04-24 11:31:48 EDT, you write: >I have a story written by RAZ0R H@aol.com (spelled R-A-Z-zero-R H). It's >only the first chapter, but it's interesting... > >Anyone want to upload it to their web page? > > Lat me take a look into it. . . . From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 25 23:01:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA10969 for sonic-ll; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 22:51:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA10964 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 22:51:18 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA06323 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 22:50:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 22:50:47 -0400 Message-ID: <960425225045_100690247@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: New comic, not by Archie? Yeah, right... Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net There isn't any way a SONIC comic in America could be published by anyone other than Archie. This person may be thinking of the British SONIC Comics, or Japanese, if there is such an animal. And from what I'm aware of, SONIC is going to keep coming from the Archie gang under the watchful eye of SEGA. Besides, when would this book come out? We're already wrapping up projects that'll be released by the end of the year and soon start working on '97. Ken From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 26 16:12:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA05254 for sonic-ll; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 15:18:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mhv.net (root@csbh.mhv.net [199.0.0.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA05244 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 15:18:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aslan.com by mhv.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA04137; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 15:20:17 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 96 15:18:04 From: R_Kid@aslan.com (R Kid) Organization: Aslan Control Technologies,Inc. Subject: Fwd: not a flame To: sonic@bort.mv.net Message-Id: <1766219.ensmtp@aslan.com> Priority: normal X-Mailer: ExpressNet/SMTP v1.1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Sorry, but I have to say this. I cherish the day when Dave Pistone comes back or someone starts a new fanfic web page. Granted, I've written some stories myself, but if I see one more fanfic ad in my inbox, I'm gonna SCREAM!!! Later. The Terror That Hacks in the NightGeson Hatchett/Racewing Kid Quote o' the day: Peg: Who would you rather spend the night with: A, your wife, B.... Al: B. Racewing ghatchet.98@diana.hchs.hunter.cuny.edu, r_kid@aslan.com Sonikode: Breezie++! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 27 12:03:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA03828 for sonic-ll; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 11:39:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.com (en.com [204.89.181.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id LAA03821 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 11:39:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.en.com (mighty.en.net [206.148.90.46]) by en.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id LAA24740 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 11:45:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199604271545.LAA24740@en.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Doug LoConti" To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:46:56 +0000 Subject: A few things: (Actually, a lot!) Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net "I need the following," Mighty humbly requests. "This may seem like a lot, but for GOOD CAUSE!" Mighty smiles, as he rambles off the lengthy list: The following are needed: The age, date of bith, height, eye color, species, names of KNOWN relatives, and origions (ie earth, mobius), and current conditions (ie Under robotnik's controll? Robotisized but working for us? Where are they currently living?) of the FOLLOWING characters: Dulcy Sonic Rotor Tails Bunnie Sal Unc. Chuck Mutski Kunckles FOR all concerned, I'm doing a HUGE profile thingy on my web page. I'm an idiot and probabyl forgot 8,912 characters so E-MAIL me YOUR characters and THEIR profiles if you'd like them to appear on the (soon to be) officiall profile page. Blah. BTW-pictures are ALWAYS welcome! Although I cannot draw worth SQUAT, I'm sure YOU PEOPLE CAN so pick up a pen, paper and a scanner and GET GOING! :) Thanx guys... looking forward to the reply! :P -MiGHTY FoX, freedom fighter international "mighty@en.com" From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 27 14:17:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA13856 for sonic-ll; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 13:42:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id NAA13851 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 13:42:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from COMPAQ ([203.120.82.205]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA26984 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 01:42:32 +0800 X-Sender: vicl@po.pacific.net.sg (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: vicl@pacific.net.sg (Lye Victor) Subject: Re : The Sonic Fan Fiction Archives Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 01:42:32 +0800 Message-ID: <19960427174231.AAA26984@COMPAQ> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hi ! No , this post ISN'T about fan-fics ... but about the fan fiction archives that I run . The Sonic Fan Fiction Archives , normally at http://home.pacific.net.sg/~vicl/ is temporarily shut down . The reason is that I'm currently relocating the Archives to another page . My original plan was to have it ready by today , but I only found out some error with my account AFTER I had removed the existing Sonic Archives at .../~vicl/ . So , please bear with me these few days , and a revamped Sonic Fan Fiction Archives will open at http://home.pacific.net.sg/~prower/ (I was lucky to get that name for my account ...) by the 30th of April . I've changed the layout and added more graphics and icons (ones that work and are displayed this time !) Later . ______________________________________________________________________________ Aaron "Prower" Lye Maintainer , Sonic Fan Fiction Archives temporary email : vicl@pacific.net.sg email as of 30th April : prower@pacific.net.sg http://home.pacific.net.sg/~prower/ : The Sonic Fan Fiction Archives (as of 4/30/96) IRC Nick : TailsProw ______________________________________________________________________________ StH JJ1 WkS+++ Son++ Sal++ Tal+++t Bun++" Rot~ Ant++ Nic+ Dul+ UnC0 Bks+ Rbk0 Snv--/+ Knu+ Mut+ P+ Dwf $+++ E27 Ay78 GM ______________________________________________________________________________ This came from Singapore , the "Lion City"... ______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 27 20:14:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA07415 for sonic-ll; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 19:47:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.ge.com (ns.ge.com [192.35.39.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id TAA07409 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 19:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from engr.erie.ge.com ([3.14.4.3]) by ns.ge.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA29429 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 19:47:03 -0400 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 19:47:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Ron Bauerle To: sonic@bort.mv.net CC: aa2043@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu, nefaria@aol.com, ray.rooney@dscmail.com, rune@delphi.com, michael_russell@vnet.ibm.com, BAUERLE@engr.erie.ge.com Message-Id: <960427194702.2a8@engr.erie.ge.com> Subject: Kath Soucie Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >>> = Bob Repas, >> = me, and > = Quozl; hope they don't mind the forward to the Sonic list, but Kath _is_ on-topic for it... >> >It's difficult to prevent overlap when exceeding normal voice parameters. >> >I hear Babs in Dot Warner's voice almost every time Dot screams or yells. >> I think I notice the same thing with Kath Soucie :^) (and I'm still >> waiting for somebody to tell me how her name is pronounced...) >Her last name *should* be pronounced as "sue-see", with equal emphasis on >each syllable... As for her voice characterisation, I've noticed three >*distinct* voices she has used: Sneezer (and the "cute" bunny from "The >Looney Beginning" [TTA]); Fifi/Linka (Captain Planet); and Sally/Nicole >(StH)... I guess her Morgana (Darkwing Duck) voice falls in the last category; as did her "Ethereal" voice from Aladdin, and her "Weird Sisters" from Gargoyles (the last is three separate characters, and she does manage to make them sound slightly different...) Thanks, Quozl, for the info! Ron From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 27 22:35:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA15100 for sonic-ll; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 21:57:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server.northernnet.com ([206.24.45.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA15095 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 21:57:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME ([206.24.63.54]) by server.northernnet.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id UAA23837 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 20:58:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3182EC76.6D3E@northernnet.com> Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 20:56:38 -0700 From: Luann Woods X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Kath Soucie X-URL: http://rat.org/sonic/stories/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Kath Soucie is also the voice of Princess What's-Her-Name, on the WB Cartoon,"EarthWorm Jim" Just a tantalizing tidbit. . . -- C.Woods! From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 27 23:54:52 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA20686 for sonic-ll; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 23:31:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server.northernnet.com ([206.24.45.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA20674 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 23:31:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME ([206.24.63.54]) by server.northernnet.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA25104 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 22:32:17 -0500 Message-ID: <31830261.246B@northernnet.com> Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 22:30:09 -0700 From: Luann Woods X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Sonic Quills Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net I was wondering, why did the artists start drawing Sonic with the "Multi-Quill" format, refer to Sonic #12, compare to #14(I missed #13, subscribing ever since) ---C.W. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 28 00:32:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id AAA04253 for sonic-ll; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 00:12:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com (emout19.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.45]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA04248 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 00:12:05 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@AOL.COM Received: by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA15111 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 00:11:34 -0400 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 00:11:34 -0400 Message-ID: <960428001133_282388345@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic Quills Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net In response to: >I was wondering, why did the artists start drawing Sonic with the "Multi-Quill" format, refer to Sonic #12, compare to #14(I missed #13, subscribing ever since)< It was about at this time that the artists were given new modeling sheets on SONIC from the people at SEGA, featuring a more 3-D look. Simple as that. Ken From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 28 14:13:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA24023 for sonic-ll; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 13:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.com (en.com [204.89.181.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id NAA24018 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 13:52:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.com (en.com [204.89.181.1]) by en.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id NAA06098 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 13:59:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 13:59:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Doug LoConti To: Sonic List Subject: .::INFINATE::. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net OK, you've given me answers, now I give you a page. I've been working (patiently) on this very page all day, so bask in the glory! I will (should) have it completed VERY SOON. Do you folks have characters you'd like to see on the page? I told you what to send me if you do, I'll tell you again: Name (FULL name, & nick names if any) age birthday realitives & status, (ie- decesased, whereabouts unknown, etc.) Abilites (ie. tails can fly) background (this is where you tell of your character... ) picture of character. I can put your character's profile page up WITHOUT a picture, but they look so much better WITH pictures, ya know? :) Well, anyhow, please me, send me a pic or two. pretty easy? Good! :P Guys, this page will be sweet if we MAKE it sweet! Any characters, (heck, I'm even gonna put up Nicole's stats) are cool. Here's what I've got done so far: Dutch Bunny Annie Coon Kita Tiger Mighty Fox Miles "Tails" Prower Here's what I hope to finish today: Sal Bunny Antoine Dulcy Nicole Sonic Chuck? Muttski?? we'll see... all is good. I'll even do the bad guys, too, but it'll take a while, YEESH! :) welp, later folks! Oh yeah... you probably want a page for all this, right? Well... TOUGH! Not yet at least. :) Later when I have more. More submissions. More power. More spam. Oh well. Later all! -MiGHTY .:the:. Fox From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 29 09:01:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id IAA20135 for sonic-ll; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:53:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA20124 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:53:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA03377; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:52:52 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id IAA17538; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:52:53 -0400 Message-Id: <199604291252.IAA17538@edmund> Subject: Re: A few things: (Actually, a lot!) To: sonic@bort.mv.net, mighty@en.com[D[D[C[C Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 08:52:53 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <199604271545.LAA24740@en.com> from "Doug LoConti" at Apr 27, 99 11:46:56 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > > The following are needed: > > The age, date of bith, height, eye color, species, names of KNOWN > relatives, and origions (ie earth, mobius), and current conditions > (ie Under robotnik's controll? Robotisized but working for us? > Where are they currently living?) of the FOLLOWING > characters: > Try asking for something simple, like the moon! It doesn't help that the information that IS available gets garbled; thus, while "Drood Henge" is the source for info that Sonic and Sally are 16, the people at Archie Comics insist that they're 15! Unless someone at SOA wants to cut loose with a "bible" of the characters. the best any of us can supply is an educated guess. But since when has that stopped any of us ? > Dulcy Age: unknown, but just hitting dragon adolescence. DOB: N/A (not available -- expect to see this a lot!) Height: approx. 7' note to tail (extended) Eyes: green Species: dragon, Mobian Relatives: Don't remember whether her mother was named in the "Dulcy" ep. Others: n/a Origin: c.f. Mobian dragon lore. Condition: a designated "protector" of the dragon race by virtue of her rescuing an egg. Member of KFF (Knothole Freedom Fighters). > Sonic Age: 16 DOB: N/A Height: approx. 3' Eyes: black Species: hedgehog Relatives: nephew of Sir Charles Hedgehog. Assumed to be an orphan. Origin: N/A. The Archie/Teitelbaum accounts conflict are are of dubious canonicity. Condition: leader of KFF more by virtue of his speed and bravado than anything else. > Rotor Age: N/A DOB: N/A Height: approx. 4' Eyes: blue Species: walrus Relatives: mother and younger brother Skeeter known to be still living though under Robotnik's psychic control. Origin: N/A Condition: Member, KFF. > Tails; alial Miles Prower Age: 10 (Archie insisted that he was 4-1/2 but seems to have accepted 10 as canonical). DOB: some time in the year 3225, within a year of Robotnik's takeover the previous year. Height: approx. 3' Eyes: black Species: fox Relatives: unknown Origin: N/A Condition: member, KFF. Relates to Sonic like an adoring younger sib. > Bunnie; full name: Bunnie Rabbot Age: close to 16 DOB: unknown Height: about 3-1/2' with ears extended. Eyes: blue Species: rabbit Relatives: N/A Origin: N/A Condition: partially roboticized by Robotnik before being rescued; the process left her with a biomechanical left arm and legs (c.f.: "Rabbit Deployment" in the comics and Teitelbaum's _StH: Robotnik's Revenge_ for varying accounts of Bunnie's origin. "Blast to the Past" establishes that Bunnie was a childhood friend of Sally. Member KFF. > Sal Full Title: Sally Alicia, Princess Royal of the House of Acorn Age: 16 DOB: N/A Height: approx. 3' Eyes: blue Species: ground squirrel Relatives: her father, King Acorn, is alive and trapped in another dimension. Origin: N/A Condition: heir to the throne of Mobius; the "brains" behind the KFF. > Unc. Chuck Full name: Sir Charles Hedgehog Age: unknown, though appears to be past middle age DOB: N/A Height: approx. 3' Eyes: presently red (see "Condition") Species: hedgehog Relatives: nephew, Sonic. Origin: N/A Condition: completely roboticized by Robotnik. Currently still roboticized in body but liberated in mind. Remains in Robotropolis gathering intelligence for KFF. > Mutski Age: N/A DOB: N/A Height: approx 1-1/2' at shoulder Eyes: N/A Species: dog, non-sentient Relatives: N/A Origin: N/A, other than the fact that he was once Sonic's pet Condition: in the comics, he (like Uncle Chuck) has his head together even though his body's been roboticized. No parallel on TV. > Kunckles Age: N/A DOB: N/A Height: approx. 3' Eyes: black Species: echidna, aka "spiny anteater" Relatives: father (last seen disappearing inside a wall of flames) Origin: N/A Condition: guardian of the floating island, once the home of echidna civilization. Distrusts Mobians in general and despite a shared enmity against Robotnik has a severe disliking of Sonic. > Please note that this contains NO information gleaned from various fanfics. ================================================================ || ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen || |\__-- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu || | / __ _ ||Sally: "Will you be serious || //\ / \ /__ || for one minute?" || | o| 0|__ --_ ||Sonic: "Thirty seconds || \\____-- __ \ ___ - || is my limit." || (@@ __/ / /_ || || -_____--- --_ ||StH: "Super Sonic" ================================================================ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 29 09:16:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id JAA20452 for sonic-ll; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:01:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA20447 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:01:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA03932; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:01:30 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id JAA18881; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:01:32 -0400 Message-Id: <199604291301.JAA18881@edmund> Subject: Re: Kath Soucie To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:01:31 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <960427194702.2a8@engr.erie.ge.com> from "Ron Bauerle" at Apr 27, 96 07:47:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > > >> I think I notice the same thing with Kath Soucie :^) (and I'm still > >> waiting for somebody to tell me how her name is pronounced...) > > >Her last name *should* be pronounced as "sue-see", with equal emphasis on > >each syllable... As for her voice characterisation, I've noticed three > >*distinct* voices she has used: Sneezer (and the "cute" bunny from "The > >Looney Beginning" [TTA]); Fifi/Linka (Captain Planet); and Sally/Nicole > >(StH)... > > I guess her Morgana (Darkwing Duck) voice falls in the last category; as > did her "Ethereal" voice from Aladdin, and her "Weird Sisters" from > Gargoyles (the last is three separate characters, and she does manage to > make them sound slightly different...) > For myself, there's a certain quality difference between her Nicole and her Sally. The Ethereal sounded MUCH more like Nicole. And I couldn't help but hear her Lillian McGill (Rugrats) voice in the little girl from "Do The Rat Thing" [Aladdin] who delivered the line about the Magic Holiday Rat. Whatever. ================================================================ || ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen || |\__-- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu || | / __ _ ||Sonic: "Whoa, you're not going to || //\ / \ /__ || use the L-word, are you?" || | o| 0|__ --_ ||Tails: "Well...." || \\____-- __ \ ___ - ||Sonic: "Then I will...I love you, || (@@ __/ / /_ || little bro." || -_____--- --_ ||AoStH: "Tails' New Home" ================================================================ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 29 13:26:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id MAA08326 for sonic-ll; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bigboote.WPI.EDU (root@bigboote.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id MAA08310 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:34:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from garden.WPI.EDU (tedp@garden.WPI.EDU [130.215.8.145]) by bigboote.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA28936; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:34:16 -0400 From: Theodore Patri Perrotti Received: (from tedp@localhost) by garden.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.8.Alpha.1) id MAA19102; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:34:14 -0400 Message-Id: <199604291634.MAA19102@garden.WPI.EDU> Subject: Re: A few things: (Actually, a lot!) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:34:14 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tedp@WPI.EDU (Theodore Patri Perrotti) In-Reply-To: <199604291252.IAA17538@edmund> from "Dan Drazen" at Apr 29, 96 08:52:53 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Actually, Muttski was seen in a "Sonic the Hedgehog" episode. It was the one where Sonic and Tails traveled to Robotropolis to get some cotter pins. Muttski was roboticized in both body and mind. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) perrottit.mbr@asme.org Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester Polytechnic Institute ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 29 18:56:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA03762 for sonic-ll; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:38:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tsb.weschke.com (foxfire@tsb.weschke.com [204.91.224.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id RAA03757 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:38:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from foxfire@localhost) by tsb.weschke.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id RAA03018; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:38:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:38:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Forsyth To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: A few things: (Actually, a lot!) In-Reply-To: <199604291252.IAA17538@edmund> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Dan Drazen wrote: > > > > The following are needed: > > > > The age, date of bith, height, eye color, species, names of KNOWN > > relatives, and origions (ie earth, mobius), and current conditions > > (ie Under robotnik's controll? Robotisized but working for us? > > Where are they currently living?) of the FOLLOWING > > characters: > > > > Try asking for something simple, like the moon! It doesn't help that > the information that IS available gets garbled; thus, while "Drood > Henge" is the source for info that Sonic and Sally are 16, the people at > Archie Comics insist that they're 15! Unless someone at SOA wants to > cut loose with a "bible" of the characters. the best any of us can > supply is an educated guess. > Hrm...odd thing about Archie's ages--they maintain that Sally and Sonic are 15, but in the lead-in story to the Princess Sally miniseries, we see a panel where her mentor (sorry--I don't have the issues with me at the keyboard, and I can't remember the titles or names off the top of my head) mentions being at her commencement ball--and that same panel has Sally dancing with Sonic. Unless Mobius uses a vastly different system than Earth, shouldn't Sally be at least 16 (though I may be getting this 'commencement ball' confused with something else, I'm going on the assumption that its the same thing as a debutante ball or a coming-out party)? All things considered, I'd put Sally and Sonic as being 19, maybe very early 20's, Antoine being maybe a bit older, Bunnie and Rotor being a couple of years younger than S&S, and Tails being about 13, given actions and attitudes. How much time has passed between that ball and current day, anyway? For that matter, how long *has* it been since Robo took over?? Chris Forsyth From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 29 19:24:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA12403 for sonic-ll; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:14:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout17.mail.aol.com (emout17.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.43]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA12397 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:14:10 -0400 (EDT) From: SoniadaH@aol.com Received: by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA19838 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:13:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:13:39 -0400 Message-ID: <960429191337_386051930@emout17.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: A few things: (Actually, a lot!) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Altho this applies to fanfic, and *my* character... Sonia the Hedgehog is Sonic the Hedgehog's fraternal twin. She would have been *much* shorter (about Sally's height) if it wasn't from Packbell's 'experiments'. (David Pinstone, you've created the *perfect* Kurgan of Mobius! Wait'll Brent [Duncan] teams up with Alex [watched 'Highlander the movie--what could Alex's REAL name be....hmm...;D) Anyway... Sonia, in my stories and in David G's, is 18 going on 19. So Sonic might be that age... or Sonia went thru some time warp! ;) My 2 Mobians. (the currancy) ****B. Sonia M. Hedgehog**** "It's a kind of Magic..."--Connor MacLeod "We do not see things as they are, we see things as we are."--Arrow Stone From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 29 20:56:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA15796 for sonic-ll; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:53:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com (emout15.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.41]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA15786 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:53:20 -0400 (EDT) From: SUPERSTH@aol.com Received: by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA12726 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:52:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:52:50 -0400 Message-ID: <960429195249_386095211@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: A few things: (Actually, a lot!) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >All things considered, I'd put Sally and Sonic as being >19, maybe very early 20's, Antione being maybe a bit older... Just to say, if Sally and Sonic were 19, then Antione would be 22. :-) >... Tails being about 13... Well, if Sonic was 15 when Tails was 10 (remember that superintelligent fruit thing incident?), then if Sonic is 19 now Tails would be 14. >... how long *has* it been since Robo took over?? Well, let's see... going by info provided from the Saturday (now Sunday) morning show and the video games, I'd have to say that it would've been about fifteen years... man... doesn't seem like it's been THAT long.... SUPER STH@aol.com "Who needs luck when you've got talent?!" - Sonic From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 29 21:49:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA16961 for sonic-ll; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:21:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server.northernnet.com ([206.24.45.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA16952 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:20:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME ([206.24.45.47]) by server.northernnet.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA08217 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:21:50 -0500 Message-ID: <318578C4.3685@northernnet.com> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:19:48 -0700 From: Luann Woods X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: A few things: (Actually, a lot!) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Chris Forsyth wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Dan Drazen wrote: > > > > > > > The following are needed: > > > > > > The age, date of bith, height, eye color, species, names of KNOWN > > > relatives, and origions (ie earth, mobius), and current conditions > > > (ie Under robotnik's controll? Robotisized but working for us? > > > Where are they currently living?) of the FOLLOWING > > > characters: > > > > > > > Try asking for something simple, like the moon! It doesn't help that > > the information that IS available gets garbled; thus, while "Drood > > Henge" is the source for info that Sonic and Sally are 16, the people at > > Archie Comics insist that they're 15! Unless someone at SOA wants to > > cut loose with a "bible" of the characters. the best any of us can > > supply is an educated guess. > > > > Hrm...odd thing about Archie's ages--they maintain that Sally and > Sonic are 15, but in the lead-in story to the Princess Sally miniseries, > we see a panel where her mentor (sorry--I don't have the issues with me > at the keyboard, and I can't remember the titles or names off the top of > my head) mentions being at her commencement ball--and that same panel has > Sally dancing with Sonic. Unless Mobius uses a vastly different system > than Earth, shouldn't Sally be at least 16 (though I may be getting this > 'commencement ball' confused with something else, I'm going on the > assumption that its the same thing as a debutante ball or a coming-out > party)? All things considered, I'd put Sally and Sonic as being 19, > maybe very early 20's, Antoine being maybe a bit older, Bunnie and Rotor > being a couple of years younger than S&S, and Tails being about 13, given > actions and attitudes. How much time has passed between that ball and > current day, anyway? For that matter, how long *has* it been since Robo > took over?? > Chris ForsythBUT... If you take into account the Saturday version of Sonic, in the second season, in episodes 4&5 (Blast to the past) Sonic and Sally were, "only five-years-old!" when Robotnik took over, or began to take over, and if you also remember 3234 was the exact date, in which they were traveling back to. SO... Who are you gonna' believe? ( Personaly, I think that Sonic writers should post their time line, if any, in the next issue, no hostility in that statement at all.) --C.W. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 29 23:07:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA22550 for sonic-ll; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:45:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA22492 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:45:20 -0400 (EDT) From: SonicKC@aol.com Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA25992 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:44:48 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:44:48 -0400 Message-ID: <960429214447_103147917@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: A few things: (Actually, a lot!) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net You don't know when Sonic's,Tails' and Knuckles' birthdays are? If you've read Sonic #36 then you'll know, but here's a hint if you haven't: what are the exact dates that Sonic 1, 2, and 3 came out (day and month)? From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 30 03:31:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id DAA26915 for sonic-ll; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 03:10:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id DAA26907 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 03:10:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from COMPAQ ([203.120.85.6]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA16130 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 15:10:40 +0800 X-Sender: vicl@po.pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: vicl@pacific.net.sg (Lye Victor) Subject: The Sonic Fan Fiction Archives Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 15:10:40 +0800 Message-ID: <19960430071038.AAA16130@COMPAQ> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Just a short note informing all interested : The Sonic Fan Fiction Archives will be up within an hour of this posting . The URL is http://home.pacific.net.sg/~prower . All problems (like broken graphics) have been fixed and the whole site has been revamped . If you detect any new problems , please e-mail me at prower@pacific.net.sg . What can you expect at this new Sonic site ? Well... A Fan Fiction Page (which seems sadly ignored by a lot of Sonic websites ) A "Bookstore" which contains zipped fan-fiction for easier download . A teeny bit of info on Japanese Sonic stuff and more.... To "commemorate" this "occasion" (This is a joke) , I am releasing two fanfics which I spent the last few days writing . Both are continuations of the "Of Foxes and Sorcery" series and are entitled "Trials" and "Touched by Darkness" . Here's a short description . Trials : Sonic discovers a hidden cavern by accident , and it contains several ancient scrolls depicting several times in Mobian and other histories . Upon closer examination of the scrolls , Tasha suspects that the cavern might be the dwelling of the Watchers , the race that originally gave the Guardians posession of the Emeralds , and even more , could be the resting place of the Great Emerald , source of the Master and Chaos Emeralds ... Touched by Darkness : Several parts of the visions the four Freedom Fighters had in "Visions of Truth" have occurred . Does this signal the "time" the visions spoke of ? These stories and others are available at the Fan Fiction Archive . Or , you can e-mail me for a copy . PLEASE NOTE THAT THE REQUEST SHOULD BE SENT TO prower@pacific.net.sg NOT THE PREVIOUS vicl@pacific.net.sg . Later ______________________________________________________________________________ Aaron "Prower" Lye Maintainer , Sonic Fan Fiction Archives temporary email : vicl@pacific.net.sg email as of 30th April : prower@pacific.net.sg http://home.pacific.net.sg/~prower/ : The Sonic Fan Fiction Archives (as of 4/30/96) IRC Nick : TailsProw ______________________________________________________________________________ StH JJ1 WkS+++ Son++ Sal++ Tal+++t Bun++" Rot~ Ant++ Nic+ Dul+ UnC0 Bks+ Rbk0 Snv--/+ Knu+ Mut+ P+ Dwf $+++ E27 Ay78 GM ______________________________________________________________________________ This came from Singapore , the "Lion City"... ______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 30 10:03:48 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id JAA18802 for sonic-ll; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:34:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA18776 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:33:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA17169; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:33:52 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id JAA25111; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:33:55 -0400 Message-Id: <199604301333.JAA25111@edmund> Subject: Re: A few things: (Actually, a lot!) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:33:54 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "Chris Forsyth" at Apr 29, 96 05:38:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > > Hrm...odd thing about Archie's ages--they maintain that Sally and > Sonic are 15, but in the lead-in story to the Princess Sally miniseries, > we see a panel where her mentor (sorry--I don't have the issues with me > at the keyboard, and I can't remember the titles or names off the top of > my head) mentions being at her commencement ball--and that same panel has > Sally dancing with Sonic. Unless Mobius uses a vastly different system > than Earth, shouldn't Sally be at least 16 (though I may be getting this > 'commencement ball' confused with something else, I'm going on the > assumption that its the same thing as a debutante ball or a coming-out > party)? All things considered, I'd put Sally and Sonic as being 19, > maybe very early 20's, Antoine being maybe a bit older, Bunnie and Rotor > being a couple of years younger than S&S, and Tails being about 13, given > actions and attitudes. How much time has passed between that ball and > current day, anyway? For that matter, how long *has* it been since Robo > took over?? > Chris Forsyth > > I've always had trouble with Julayla's comment about the "commencement". The only thing I can figure is that Kanterovich & Penders must have written it without reference to "Blast To The Past" which established "canonically" that Sonic, Sally et al. were 5 when Robotnik took over in 3224 MA [Mobian Age]. That ep, plus "Drood Henge," are pivotal in establishing the Mobian timeline. Archie, unfortunately, has never been held to be as canonical as the SatAM series, and has had to play catch-up ever since, even with regard to character modeling. For the longest time the Archie Sally was off-color [if you know what I mean] and apparently based on the Sally that appeared only once, in the off-model "Heads or Tails" ep from the first season. Much as I'd want to put the gang toward the shank end of adolescence, "Drood Henge" leaves it as unambiguous that they're in their mid-teens and that Tails is a 10-year-old. As for time, 3224 from 3235 makes it 11 years that Robotnik has been in business. That makes it more interesting for Tails, who would have been born within a year of Robotnik's takeover and thus would never have known what Mobius was like pre-Robotnik. ================================================================ || ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen || |\__-- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu || | / __ _ ||Sonic: "Whoa, you're not going to || //\ / \ /__ || use the L-word, are you?" || | o| 0|__ --_ ||Tails: "Well...." || \\____-- __ \ ___ - ||Sonic: "Then I will...I love you, || (@@ __/ / /_ || little bro." || -_____--- --_ ||AoStH: "Tails' New Home" ================================================================ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 30 10:31:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA21920 for sonic-ll; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:02:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from use.usit.net (acme@use.usit.net [199.1.48.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA21912 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:02:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA02372; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:02:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:02:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) Team OS/2" To: Sonic Post Subject: Sonic 1# and 2# (fwd) Message-ID: Organization: Rebel Alliance of Mobius MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net This is a forwarded message. Please send all replies directly to denman@ulix.net and not to the list. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:45:51 -0400 From: william denman To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Sonic 1# and 2# Hello, I was wondering if you had any spare sonic tthe hedgehog comics around. I am looking for number 1# and 2# of the original sonic mini-siries. William E.R. (Billy) Denman denman@ulix.net From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 30 11:08:48 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA22638 for sonic-ll; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:04:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id KAA22628 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:04:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ppp29.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (ppp29.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.59]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA10762 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 07:07:53 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 07:07:53 -0700 Message-Id: <199604301407.HAA10762@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: A few things: (Actually, a lot!) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 07:19 PM 4/29/96 -0700, you wrote: >Chris Forsyth wrote: >> >> On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Dan Drazen wrote: >> >> > > >> > > The following are needed: >> > > >> > > The age, date of bith, height, eye color, species, names of KNOWN >> > > relatives, and origions (ie earth, mobius), and current conditions >> > > (ie Under robotnik's controll? Robotisized but working for us? >> > > Where are they currently living?) of the FOLLOWING >> > > characters: >> > > >> > >> > Try asking for something simple, like the moon! It doesn't help that >> > the information that IS available gets garbled; thus, while "Drood >> > Henge" is the source for info that Sonic and Sally are 16, the people at >> > Archie Comics insist that they're 15! Unless someone at SOA wants to >> > cut loose with a "bible" of the characters. the best any of us can >> > supply is an educated guess. >> > >> >> Hrm...odd thing about Archie's ages--they maintain that Sally and >> Sonic are 15, but in the lead-in story to the Princess Sally miniseries, >> we see a panel where her mentor (sorry--I don't have the issues with me >> at the keyboard, and I can't remember the titles or names off the top of >> my head) mentions being at her commencement ball--and that same panel has >> Sally dancing with Sonic. Unless Mobius uses a vastly different system >> than Earth, shouldn't Sally be at least 16 (though I may be getting this >> 'commencement ball' confused with something else, I'm going on the >> assumption that its the same thing as a debutante ball or a coming-out >> party)? All things considered, I'd put Sally and Sonic as being 19, >> maybe very early 20's, Antoine being maybe a bit older, Bunnie and Rotor >> being a couple of years younger than S&S, and Tails being about 13, given >> actions and attitudes. How much time has passed between that ball and >> current day, anyway? For that matter, how long *has* it been since Robo >> took over?? >> Chris ForsythBUT... > >If you take into account the Saturday version of Sonic, in the second >season, in episodes 4&5 (Blast to the past) Sonic and Sally were, "only >five-years-old!" when Robotnik took over, or began to take over, and if >you also remember 3234 was the exact date, in which they were traveling >back to. > >SO... >Who are you gonna' believe? >( Personaly, I think that Sonic writers should post their time line, if >any, in the next issue, no hostility in that statement at all.) > > --C.W. > In 'Drood Henge' it mentions Sally is 2 years from 18, so that would her and Sonic 16. If they went back to the year 3224 (I think), they were 5 (as above), then it would be 16 years since Buttnik took over. But who knows how long it's been since the beggining of the first season to the end of the second season. -Chris Flinn From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 30 11:20:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA26562 for sonic-ll; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:53:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id KAA26556 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:53:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from COMPAQ ([203.120.85.14]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA23276 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:53:06 +0800 X-Sender: prower@po.pacific.net.sg (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: prower@pacific.net.sg (Aaron Lye Soon Choy) Subject: The Sonic Fan Fiction Archives Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:53:06 +0800 Message-ID: <19960430145305.AAA23276@COMPAQ> Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Hi ! It's me again . For those of you who tried to access the Archive after recieving the first message , my apologies . I had a run-in with some unexpected problems with the irritating tag that screwed up all the links . Anyway , that's all in the past and I am glad to announce that the Archive is now up and running fine ! If you spot any problems , please contact me at prower@pacific.net.sg . Some new Sonic Fan Fiction was just released there . Check it out ! Later . ______________________________________________________________________________ Aaron "Prower" Lye Maintainer , Sonic Fan Fiction Archives temporary email : vicl@pacific.net.sg email as of 30th April : prower@pacific.net.sg http://home.pacific.net.sg/~prower/ : The Sonic Fan Fiction Archives (as of 4/30/96) IRC Nick : TailsProw ______________________________________________________________________________ StH JJ1 WkS+++ Son++ Sal++ Tal+++t Bun++" Rot~ Ant++ Nic+ Dul+ UnC0 Bks+ Rbk0 Snv--/+ Knu+ Mut+ P+ Dwf $+++ E27 Ay78 GM ______________________________________________________________________________ This came from Singapore , the "Lion City"... ______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 30 12:23:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA29185 for sonic-ll; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:28:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA29179 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:28:18 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA01517 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:27:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:27:47 -0400 Message-ID: <960430112746_103500347@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: A few things: (Actually, a lot!) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Just to settle the argument, Sally and Sonic were 13 at the commencement, and they're currently 15 right now. The story with Julayla was written just before "Blast to the Past" aired, as we were working from a script because we needed to establish the character of Rosie. As I recall, the time-line wasn't too established in the script we were working from, as the war was only going on for a couple of years. We worked out our own timeline as a result, based on SEGA treating the characters as if they aged at the same rate we do. If we treated them in terms of how animals really age (so many of their years = one of ours), Sonic and Sally would've been portrayed as battle-hardened adults by this time. As further proof of this, when we portrayed Sonic and Sally married in the future, there were a few comments about how old they should be to get married. To go by the timeline that the war started when Sonic and Sally were five didn't make sense, especially when you factor in their current age. As far as we were concerned, this was one time when the show got it wrong. However, because it's TV, most people accept that version as gospel. My attitude is that it's the games that establish the world of Sonic, with the series, paperbacks and comics filling in the details, with neither one more valid than the other. Mike and I tried to be consistent with all versions, but for various reasons, couldn't always be. Mike and I constantly disagree over what happens in the world of Sonic, as we try our best to do the best stories we can. And our approach definitely differs from the other writers involved in the series. That doesn't mean they're wrong or bad. They just have a different slant on the characters and series. So go ahead, enjoy your take on the world of SONIC. Think of Sonic like some of the other classic characters, and how many different versions of Batman and Superman there are. I guess you could chalk it all up to artistic interpretation. However, if you ask a question to settle a debate, you're going to get my interpretation that I work out with the editors at Archie and the licensing department at SEGA, okay? Ken From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 30 13:46:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA10276 for sonic-ll; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:26:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bigboote.WPI.EDU (root@bigboote.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id NAA10270 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:26:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from garden.WPI.EDU (tedp@garden.WPI.EDU [130.215.8.145]) by bigboote.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA12496; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:26:04 -0400 From: Theodore Patri Perrotti Received: (from tedp@localhost) by garden.WPI.EDU (8.8.Alpha.1/8.8.Alpha.1) id NAA29578; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:26:03 -0400 Message-Id: <199604301726.NAA29578@garden.WPI.EDU> Subject: Re: A few things: (Actually, a lot!) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tedp@WPI.EDU (Theodore Patri Perrotti) In-Reply-To: <199604301407.HAA10762@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> from "Dan" at Apr 30, 96 07:07:53 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net > > At 07:19 PM 4/29/96 -0700, you wrote: > > In 'Drood Henge' it mentions Sally is 2 years from 18, so that would her > and Sonic 16. If they went back to the year 3224 (I think), they were 5 (as > above), then it would be 16 years since Buttnik took over. But who knows > how long it's been since the beggining of the first season to the end of the > second season. > > -Chris Flinn > > Umm...actually, 16-5=11 years since 'Buttnik took over. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) perrottit.mbr@asme.org Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester Polytechnic Institute ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 30 14:52:50 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id OAA15332 for sonic-ll; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:24:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu (peter.cs.andrews.edu [143.207.1.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA15324 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:24:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edmund by peter.cs.andrews.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA27994; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:24:05 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (SMI-8.6) id OAA25869; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:24:09 -0400 Message-Id: <199604301824.OAA25869@edmund> Subject: Re: A few things: (Actually, a lot!) To: sonic@bort.mv.net Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:24:08 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <960430112746_103500347@emout12.mail.aol.com> from "KenP7672@aol.com" at Apr 30, 96 11:27:47 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Ken: Sorry that you only have to emerge from Lurkerland when there are these kinds of discrepancies. My own interest in this matter, as you may have guessed, goes beyond fandom. I continue to maintain the FAQ File in part because of my interest in theology. Seriously, it's one thing to speculate on the process of how the Old Testament, for instance, came to be canonized; it's quite another thing to watch the process of canonization unfold in the present. THAT's how I consider the state of things in this corner of Sonic fandom. And now, for a few particulars: > > Just to settle the argument, Sally and Sonic were 13 at the commencement, and > they're currently 15 right now. The story with Julayla was written just > before "Blast to the Past" aired, as we were working from a script because we > needed to establish the character of Rosie. As I recall, the time-line wasn't > too established in the script we were working from, as the war was only going > on for a couple of years. > Has any other comic you've worked on become this complex? Back home I have (courtesy of a friend in New York State) a copy of the character "bible" for the old Care Bears cartoon series. it isn't just a single sheet. And over on a Disney animation group the similar bible for the series "Gargoyles" has been described as huge! Perhaps if Sega had commissioned a similar bible these conflicts need never have happened. But that's just 20/20 hindsight talking.... > We worked out our own timeline as a result, based on SEGA treating the > characters as if they aged at the same rate we do. If we treated them in > terms of how animals really age (so many of their years = one of ours), Sonic > and Sally would've been portrayed as battle-hardened adults by this time. As > further proof of this, when we portrayed Sonic and Sally married in the > future, there were a few comments about how old they should be to get > married. > The fans generally seem to agree with the idea of aging at a human rate, as it were. And "battle-hardened" is the last term I'd use to describe the Knothole gang. Tactically, they prefer harassment and hit-and-run to all-out assaults. > To go by the timeline that the war started when Sonic and Sally were five > didn't make sense, especially when you factor in their current age. As far as > we were concerned, this was one time when the show got it wrong. However, > because it's TV, most people accept that version as gospel. In Judaism, when there's a gap in the Biblical narrative that begs to be explained, the process called "midrash" takes over. Over in this group, it's called "fanfic." I wrote "Capture The Flag" to answer a number of questions that never got satisfactorily answered either in the comics or on TV: Where did Knothole come from? How did the kids live there? Who else was there with them? When did they start their campaign against Robotnik? How did the power ring generator get there? Those are just the ones I can remember off the top of my head. The point is, I didn't have the luxury of thinking "the show got it wrong." My task as a writer was: "OK, using the information I have, including the fact that Robotnik took over when the kids were 5 years old, how do I answer these questions?" Where the fans have been having trouble has not been in thinking "the show got it wrong" or Archie got it wrong; the biggest debates, as you've no doubt seen, have come from open conflicts of fact (15 v. 16 years old; ground squirrel v. fox, etc.). > My attitude is > that it's the games that establish the world of Sonic, with the series, > paperbacks and comics filling in the details, with neither one more valid > than the other. Mike and I tried to be consistent with all versions, but for > various reasons, couldn't always be. > > Mike and I constantly disagree over what happens in the world of Sonic, as we > try our best to do the best stories we can. And our approach definitely > differs from the other writers involved in the series. That doesn't mean > they're wrong or bad. They just have a different slant on the characters and > series. > Again, I don't think anyone is being overly critical of the comics, though the degree of fan acceptance of the TV series is so strong that when rumors of a Sonic movie were flying around here a couple weeks ago I sensed a strong concensus that the character of Sonic wouldn't be acceptable unless he were once more voiced by Jaleel White. And IMHO you and Mike Kanterovich are the strongest writers that Archie has working on the series. The burden of consistency, however, appears to be resting on nobody's shoulders in particular. Sega has given some details about characters (Sonic's character guide is available on a couple of fan home pages) but it's apparently broad enough to permit some differences within and between media. And (to bring it full circle) that's why I continue to maintain the FAQ File -- to bring a certain amount of order out of creative chaos. Hey, I'm a librarian. It's what I do. > So go ahead, enjoy your take on the world of SONIC. Think of Sonic like some > of the other classic characters, and how many different versions of Batman > and Superman there are. I guess you could chalk it all up to artistic > interpretation. > > However, if you ask a question to settle a debate, you're going to get my > interpretation that I work out with the editors at Archie and the licensing > department at SEGA, okay? > Maybe what we need to do is convene the cyberspace equivalent of the Council of Jamnia (which fixed the Old Testament canon around AD 90). There'd be representatives of Sega, Archie (I nominate you and Mike), and Pat Allee and Ben Hurst would represent the TV series. The fans would draw up a list of questions and you and the others would huddle until they were answered. Right now, the only alternative is that we the fans take matters into our own hands and write fanfic. Bet they never have these kind of problems in Riverdale High! And now for the mushy sig: ================================================================ || ___------__ || Daniel J. Drazen || |\__-- /\ _- || drazen@andrews.edu || | / __ _ ||Sonic: "Whoa, you're not going to || //\ / \ /__ || use the L-word, are you?" || | o| 0|__ --_ ||Tails: "Well...." || \\____-- __ \ ___ - ||Sonic: "Then I will...I love you, || (@@ __/ / /_ || little bro." || -_____--- --_ ||AoStH: "Tails' New Home" ================================================================ From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 30 21:08:12 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA17272 for sonic-ll; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:43:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.com (en.com [204.89.181.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id UAA17267 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:43:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from en.com (en.com [204.89.181.1]) by en.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id UAA01059 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:51:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Doug LoConti To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Sonic characters Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Guys, I'm happy and I'm sad! Why am I :)? A: because I've been getting many characters...which I will put up Why am I :(? A: because no one's including pics! I'll put the characters up, but without pictures, it will still look nerdy. Look to see some sign of this magical page by saturday. Later all! :) -MIGHTY From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 30 21:13:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA19814 for sonic-ll; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:58:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id UAA19790 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:57:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server.northernnet.com ([206.24.45.1]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id UAA23587 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:17:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME ([206.24.45.49]) by server.northernnet.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA01482 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:18:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3186C960.548@northernnet.com> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:16:00 -0700 From: Luann Woods X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: A few things: (Actually, a lot!) References: <960430112746_103500347@emout12.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net KenP7672@aol.com wrote: > > Just to settle the argument, Sally and Sonic were 13 at the commencement, and > they're currently 15 right now. The story with Julayla was written just > before "Blast to the Past" aired, as we were working from a script because we > needed to establish the character of Rosie. As I recall, the time-line wasn't > too established in the script we were working from, as the war was only going > on for a couple of years. > > We worked out our own timeline as a result, based on SEGA treating the > characters as if they aged at the same rate we do. If we treated them in > terms of how animals really age (so many of their years = one of ours), Sonic > and Sally would've been portrayed as battle-hardened adults by this time. As > further proof of this, when we portrayed Sonic and Sally married in the > future, there were a few comments about how old they should be to get > married. > > To go by the timeline that the war started when Sonic and Sally were five > didn't make sense, especially when you factor in their current age. As far as > we were concerned, this was one time when the show got it wrong. However, > because it's TV, most people accept that version as gospel. My attitude is > that it's the games that establish the world of Sonic, with the series, > paperbacks and comics filling in the details, with neither one more valid > than the other. Mike and I tried to be consistent with all versions, but for > various reasons, couldn't always be. > > Mike and I constantly disagree over what happens in the world of Sonic, as we > try our best to do the best stories we can. And our approach definitely > differs from the other writers involved in the series. That doesn't mean > they're wrong or bad. They just have a different slant on the characters and > series. > > So go ahead, enjoy your take on the world of SONIC. Think of Sonic like some > of the other classic characters, and how many different versions of Batman > and Superman there are. I guess you could chalk it all up to artistic > interpretation. > > However, if you ask a question to settle a debate, you're going to get my > interpretation that I work out with the editors at Archie and the licensing > department at SEGA, okay? > > Kenokay, I just thought that someone should mention that if history was the subject, that's all. --C.W. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 30 21:52:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA19848 for sonic-ll; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id UAA19841 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:58:32 -0400 (EDT) From: KenP7672@aol.com Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com (emout13.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.39]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id UAA23240 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:14:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA12831 for sonic@bort.mv.net; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:14:05 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:14:05 -0400 Message-ID: <960430200644_284433474@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: sonic@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: A few things: (Actually, a lot!) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Dan, I would compare working on SONIC to be almost as complex as working on STAR TREK, which I have done for both DC Comics and Malibu. When working on any TREK-related series, the primary guideline was anything filmed was considered "official" TREK history. It's only now that some novels or certain projects contain "official" information considered part of TREK lore. Even so, nothing printed in comics is deemed official. In fact, Roddenberry supposedly disavowed the animation series he spearheaded back in the early '70's, even though it features stories by such TREK luminaries as D.C. Fontana, David Gerrold and Walter Koenig. Not to mention the voices of the ORIGINAL CAST!!! As far as I'm aware, even though Gene's ashes are scattered out in space, Paramount still doesn't acknowledge the animated series. So if you operate on the premise that the source material is the official history, it's hit or miss when transferring the characters, stories or series to other media. By this thinking, whatever material SEGA puts out is official. Anything else put out by other media, such as the comics or TV series is official only as long as SEGA deems it so. If there are discrepancies, and there are many too numerous to go into here, it's not because anyone wants to deliberately confuse anyone. It's due more to a lack of any dedicated resources co-ordinating details concerning the world of SONIC. Even Mike and I get it wrong ourselves. For instance, in A SENSE OF HISTORY Part One, we showed a hedgehog pounding a sign into the ground with his family standing nearby. We originally had on the sign "Future Site of Knothole Village", as we thought it would be a neat bit to state that Knothole Village stands where the Floating Island once existed. However, when we wrote that, Mike Gallagher was only beginning to write the TAILS mini-series. After he established the world of Downunda and Knuckles' grandfather Athair, it was decided it made more sense since echidnas come from Austrailia to have the Floating Island originate from Downunda. Due to a rush of deadlines at this time, I wasn't even made aware of this until I saw the printed story. The only bible I ever worked with in regards to the SONIC comic series was the one for the ABC Saturday morning series and character model sheets from SEGA, and that was it. I had to depend on my 8-year-old son Stephen to keep me in line regarding SONIC as he is a HUGE fan. (A side note here: I got involved with SONIC because he is my son's FAVORITE character.) When Mike and I started working on the series, we were submitting stories based on what Mike Gallagher was doing, as he was the primary writer at the time. With each passing story, we started getting subversive and began emphasizing more of the adventure aspects and less of the bad puns, using humor when called for, and not doing a gag at the expense of the story. If you go back and reread those early issues, you'll see how we gradually began to steer the book in the direction we wanted rather than maintaining the status quo. However, we could not have done this had the folks at SEGA not been receptive to what we were trying to do. Of all the ideas we submitted, the original story proposal for the PRINCESS SALLY mini-series is the one I'm sorry didn't get off the ground, but I think we more than made up for it with the KNUCKLES mini-series. "Battle-hardened" describes an attitude, not tactics. If Sonic and Sally and company had been fighting for over ten years with Robotnik, they'd have the attitude and look reminiscent of soldiers fighting in the trenches during World War II. And we'd love to do that, but we can't because of our young audience. As it is, in order to get anything with an edge through, we use Disney as our guideline, as in: If Disney can do it in their cartoons, why can't we in our comics. As for Sonic's history, Mike and I have a rough timeline and what stories we'd like to document about that timeline. For instance, if you read SONIC #36, we mention Robotnik's mentor Kodos, who is going to feature very prominently in the series after issue #50. In #17, we showed Robotnik taking over Mobotropolis, and portray Julayla getting Sonic and Sally to safety. Although we didn't have the room, Rosie was there as well, making sure that Tails was escorted safely out of the war zone. Antoine and Rotor were at the front lines, and beat a retreat to fight another day. Tails' parents were among those roboticized, and we have yet to decide how or if we'll incorporate them into the series. Y'see, we can answer your questions regarding continuity, but this is the Archie version APPROVED by SEGA. I apologize for rambling, but I tried to answer your letter the best way I could to explain why things are the way they are. This is not meant to detract from the fan-fic, which for reasons I'm sure you understand, I don't read and can't comment on. If the fans want to fill in the blanks, that's what TREK fans have been doing the past 30 years, and there's been no end to any of the debate regardless. From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 30 23:23:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA25269 for sonic-ll; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:39:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id WAA25263 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:39:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ppp29.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (Dan@ppp29.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.59]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA22958 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:43:08 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:43:08 -0700 Message-Id: <199605010243.TAA22958@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: A few things: (Actually, a lot!) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net >> > > In 'Drood Henge' it mentions Sally is 2 years from 18, so that would her >and Sonic 16. If they went back to the year 3224 (I think), they were 5 (as >above), then it would be 16 years since Buttnik took over. But who knows >how long it's been since the beggining of the first season to the end of the >second season. > > -Chris Flinn > > Uh, I mean 11 years. -Chris From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 30 23:52:05 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA25020 for sonic-ll; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:30:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.Clark.Net (mail.clark.net [168.143.0.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id WAA25009 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:30:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ba.com (ba.com [198.5.6.1]) by mail.Clark.Net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA01405 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sirkain.mns.inc.com (sirkain.mnsinc.com [206.239.33.181]) by ba.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA06273 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 21:31:46 GMT Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 21:31:46 GMT Message-Id: <199604302131.VAA06273@ba.com> X-Sender: sirkain@mnsinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Eric Goodwin Subject: Re: Sonic characters Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 08:51 PM 4/30/96 -0400, you wrote: >Guys, I'm happy and I'm sad! > >Why am I :)? > >A: because I've been getting many characters...which I will put up > >Why am I :(? > >A: because no one's including pics! I'll put the characters up, but >without pictures, it will still look nerdy. Look to see some sign of >this magical page by saturday. Did you put Kain up there? (I dont remember if i asked you or not) If you did, I have a pic I had made of him from the sonic story. (second one in progress: YEs, i'm pulling out of retirement, thanks to Bookshire talking to me and helping me out) e-mail me privately about how you want ot get the pic. Sir Kain E-mail: sirkain@mnsinc.com From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 00:21:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA25274 for sonic-ll; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:39:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us [198.189.125.67]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id WAA25264 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:39:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ppp29.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US (Dan@ppp29.net.CUSD.Chico.K12.CA.US [198.189.28.59]) by ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA22965 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:43:11 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:43:11 -0700 Message-Id: <199605010243.TAA22965@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us> X-Sender: dflinn@ben X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@bort.mv.net From: Dan Subject: Re: A few things: (Actually, a lot!) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net At 01:26 PM 4/30/96 -0400, you wrote: >> >> At 07:19 PM 4/29/96 -0700, you wrote: >> >> In 'Drood Henge' it mentions Sally is 2 years from 18, so that would her >> and Sonic 16. If they went back to the year 3224 (I think), they were 5 (as >> above), then it would be 16 years since Buttnik took over. But who knows >> how long it's been since the beggining of the first season to the end of the >> second season. >> >> -Chris Flinn >> >> > >Umm...actually, 16-5=11 years since 'Buttnik took over. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >"It's juice time!"-Sonic the Hedgehog > >Theodore P. Perrotti tedp@wpi.edu (all mail forwarded to here) > perrottit.mbr@asme.org > >Lifetime brother of Alpha Phi Omega, Omicron Iota chapter, Worcester >Polytechnic Institute >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Thanks! My mistake. -Chris From owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 00:26:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA28645 for sonic-ll; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:17:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.ge.com (ns.ge.com [192.35.39.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA28639 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:17:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from engr.erie.ge.com ([3.14.4.3]) by ns.ge.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA23167 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:17:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 23:17:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Ron Bauerle To: sonic@bort.mv.net CC: aa2043@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu, nefaria@aol.com, ray.rooney@dscmail.com, rune@delphi.com, BAUERLE@engr.erie.ge.com Message-Id: <960430231738.208d@engr.erie.ge.com> Subject: Comments on Sonic #36 (spoilers) Sender: owner-sonic@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@bort.mv.net Here's a form feed, for what good it does: The cover: AAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! That rotten UPC symbol covered up part of Sally's cute tush!!! Note to Spaz et al: please take this into account when creating these masterpieces! I was half-tempted to try drawing the rest of her in from the preview in Sonic #35... Also, I think I kind of liked Sally better with black pupils with a white dot on them; this white pupil on a blue iris doesn't quite work for me (if anybody wants a sample of the former, I can e-mail sally.jpg to them...) I didn't quite get the discussion re. "The void" vs. "The zone of silence", but maybe I didn't concentrate hard enough (or else I need to check those back issues mentioned...) The bottom of page 8 was a bit confusing; are we to infer that Robotnik kept that "photon cannon" going from the time of King Acorn's imprisonment until just now? I'll leave comment on the ID of the masked rider to others, and/or until after another issue or two :^) Though it _does_ conflict with the show... The Knuckles story: Not sure why Dimitri had to hook up _sails_ to the island - didn't he have enough power to propel it himself? How could fire ants chew through the wall in so short a time? (hours?) This seemed a bit deus ex machina to me... Also that with all that power, Dimitri could apparently be crushed to death by the collapse of the tower (and it wasn't clear that the skull-like (shades of The Phantom?) Mt. Fate was created by its collapse). Well, well, a quote from Proverbs 6:6 :^) Either this means Mobius is a future Earth (refuted by the letter column stating Tails is a Mobain fox not an Earth fox), or it was influenced by Earth culture/settlers, or that Star Trek episode about parallel planet development (Bread and Circuses) applies, but _that_ would have some interesting theological consequences :^) I still think the decision to dismantle their technological society was a bit of an overreaction, but I'll accept it for the story's sake... The preview of the cover for #38: I'll leave comments on this to others who can do so without drooling all over their keyboards :^) At least the UPC symbol will only cover part of her boots this time... Keep up the good work! RDB