From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Feb 1 06:29:47 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id FAA01775 for kats-ll; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 05:48:31 -0500 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.MV.COM [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id FAA01770 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 05:48:28 -0500 Received: from [164.67.22.56] (ts35-11.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.56]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with SMTP id FAA10447 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 05:48:22 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: rat-al@mv.mv.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 02:48:25 -0800 To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Litterboxes and Kat showers Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Showers and bathtubs definitely exist in Megakat City. In fact, we see that in the episode "Mutation City," where Mayor Manx attempts to take a shower but it fills instead with slime. However, Manx's bathroom doesn't show a toilet, and we know that Megakat Litter exists (cf. "Night of the Dark Kat"), so... ;-) and as far as Razor's furball in "Bride of the Pastmaster" goes, my guess is that Kats must take regular showers, but will resort to licking themselves for emergency grooming. One thing comes to mind though: house cats generally don't like water, although some larger cats, like tigers, will readily swim in or soak in water, either to cool off or to pursue prey. I get the feeling that Kats don't mind water, either (i.e., Megakat State Beach, Anakatta Island, etc.) Comments? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Feb 1 09:27:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA10700 for kats-ll; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:33:27 -0500 Received: from netman.iscs.nus.sg (root@netman.iscs.nus.sg [137.132.87.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA10681 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:33:19 -0500 Received: from sununx.iscs.nus.sg (leetwail) by netman.iscs.nus.sg with SMTP id AA02314 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for kats@bort.mv.net); Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:32:55 +0800 Received: (from leetwail@localhost) by sununx.iscs.nus.sg (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA13435; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:32:53 +0800 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:32:52 +0800 (GMT-8) From: Leet Wai Leong Simon To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Hairballs (was: Kat Commodes) In-Reply-To: <199602010107.UAA03411@kafka.delphi.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, MATT WEBER wrote: > There have been comments about getting/having/coughing up a hairball in > various episodes. In fact, in "Bride of the Pastmaster", Razor coughs up > one while they're trying to stop the "oil sucking eels". He had to get the > hairball _somehow_... Maybe they lick themselves clean in the shower? I > really don't think this was something the writers had planned on explaining > in any great detail -- it was just a funny "gag" (pun intended)! I remember a scene in "The Giant Bacteria" when Chance licks his palm then proceeds to straigten out his hair (fur?) with it to make a good impression on Callie. I don't suppose most Kats have any qualms about licking themselves, though probably not for regular cleaniness. Maybe Razor was licking his wounds or something before the ep ... he seems to get bumped around a lot more than T-Bone :) Simon Leet :) - *sigh* now everything I did wrong in '95 can return to haunt me. Hurrah. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Feb 1 11:30:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA23369 for kats-ll; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 11:04:11 -0500 Received: from PICA.ARMY.MIL (polar.pica.army.mil [129.139.68.37]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA23362 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 11:04:09 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 96 11:02:03 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Litterboxes and Kat showers Message-ID: <9602011102.aa27769@polar.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Showers and bathtubs definitely exist in Megakat City. In fact, we see >that in the episode "Mutation City," where Mayor Manx attempts to take a >shower but it fills instead with slime. However, Manx's bathroom doesn't >show a toilet, and we know that Megakat Litter exists (cf. "Night of the >Dark Kat"), so... ;-) and as far as Razor's furball in "Bride of the >Pastmaster" goes, my guess is that Kats must take regular showers, but will >resort to licking themselves for emergency grooming. Cats will also groom themselves as a reaction to stress, so this may be where the hairballs would come from. Have Kat meals ever been shown? If so, were there any vegetable, bread, etc? Just wondering, because cats are pretty much pure carnivores. >One thing comes to mind though: house cats generally don't like water, >although some larger cats, like tigers, will readily swim in or soak in >water, either to cool off or to pursue prey. I get the feeling that Kats >don't mind water, either (i.e., Megakat State Beach, Anakatta Island, etc.) Tigers and Jaguars are pretty much the only cats that will readily take to water, though most if not all cats can swim. The fact that Kats actually enjoy water is likely just another case of allowing reason to overcome instinct, like us apes have done as well. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Feb 1 13:37:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA02646 for kats-ll; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:02:21 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA02638 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:02:12 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.136] (dyn1136.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.136]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA10858 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 01:03:15 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 00:59:48 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Hairballs (was: Kat Commodes) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Same here. BTW, I'm still curious, does the kats still lick themself when >>ever they needed a bath? > >There have been comments about getting/having/coughing up a hairball in >various episodes. In fact, in "Bride of the Pastmaster", Razor coughs up >one while they're trying to stop the "oil sucking eels". He had to get the >hairball _somehow_... Maybe they lick themselves clean in the shower? I >really don't think this was something the writers had planned on explaining >in any great detail -- it was just a funny "gag" (pun intended)! I'm always curiuos on the kats attitude, we know that they are civilize beings now, but do they still maintains their cat like behaviour after they have been civilize? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Feb 1 15:21:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA08087 for kats-ll; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:25:55 -0500 Received: from ny.psca.com (tsi-srvr.ny.psca.com [192.246.114.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA08081 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:25:52 -0500 Received: from goofy by ny.psca.com (NX5.67c/3.1.090690-Paradigm NY) id AA19115 for kats@bort.mv.net; Thu, 1 Feb 96 14:25:38 -0500 Message-Id: <9602011925.AA19115@ny.psca.com> Received: by goofy.ny.psca.com (NX5.67e/NX3.0X) id AA04179; Thu, 1 Feb 96 14:25:42 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Mitch Botwin Date: Thu, 1 Feb 96 14:25:41 -0500 To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Hairballs & Civilization References: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Begin forwarded message: >>Same here. BTW, I'm still curious, does the kats still lick = themself when >>ever they needed a bath? > >I'm always curiuos on the kats attitude, we know that they are = civilize >beings now, but do they still maintains their cat like behaviour = after they >have been civilize? What does it mean to be civilized? Do we judge the Kats = civilization by our standards? There may be events or habits in = the Kats' world that we would find totally disgusting, but they = would consider ordinary or common place. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Feb 1 18:19:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA21845 for kats-ll; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:26:13 -0500 Received: from tribeca.ios.com (root@tribeca.ios.com [198.4.75.48]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA21835 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:25:54 -0500 Received: from wntrmute.ios.com (ppp-60.ts-9.hck.idt.net [169.132.51.132]) by tribeca.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA10771 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:18:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:18:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199602012218.RAA10771@tribeca.ios.com> X-Sender: wntrmute@tribeca.ios.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: wntrmute@tribeca.ios.com (August Yang) Subject: This is what happens when I don't read my e-mail! Br) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hi folx! I think think this messages is (just barely) under the 6K limit, but if anyone has any problems with it, allow me to apologize in advance. Edo> how is the Turbocat look like ? Hurm. I'll have to either get a picture the next time I'm in Hong Kong or ask my parents to send a copy over. It's kinda hard to describe. Konway Br)> Do they have an equivalent of Christmas? Do they even have winter? I've seen nary a flake come from the skies of MegaKat City. Terra> What about other animals? Well, there seems to more than one sentient race on the Kat Planet as Chop Shop resembles a hyena than any cat I've seen. There have also been mentions of raccoons. Also, snakes, frogs, and other reptiles have been seen on-screen, as well as cows and birds. chance> why put the Metallikats back together so many times? Huh? He put them back to together *once*. Then he wanted to reprogram them, but they destroyed the disks with the new programming. The subsequent times they were re-built was by Dr. Viper with Dark Kat and the Pastmaster. chance> they perhaps wanted to have a female character take on chance> a more direct role in the action, but couldn't picture chance> Callie crawling through the muck on her elbows holding chance> a rocket launcher Well, being deputy mayor probably requires her to have some form of decorum, but she still manages to get in a few good shots every now and then. Like when she floors Dark Kat with a bag of money in the episode where *she* saves the SWAT Kats' fur. Dr. Jake> Jake almost runs him over with the truck (he's a lousy Dr. Jake> driver). Sorry, but I have to leap to the defense of my favorite kat (and apparently everyone else's. Br) Jake may not pilot the TurboKat 24/7, but he can handle everything all by his lonesome if need be. Like in Mutation City, when T-Bone mutates into a kat/frog hybrid, Razor not only flies rings around a Godzilla-sized Dr. Viper, but manages to mix the two-component anti-mutagen, and saves the city. (There. I said it. I feel better. Br) Terra> Aren't calico cats s'posed to have many colored coats? Yup. And Manx cats aren't supposed to have tails. BTW, has anyone seen my orange and black paints and my cleaver? Br) Matt> He (Dr. Greenbox) kinda went off the deep-end near the end Matt> of that ep. and actually turned into a villian. Evil thought here folx (I have quite a few of them). Dr. Greenbox is also the guy who "gave" Rex Shard his powers. What if Rex, in a later incarnation, teams up with the insane Dr. Greenbox? If anyone want to use this for a fanfic idea, feel free. I've got more ideas for fanfic than time to write. chance> Did any of you USA types find that the "temporary tattoos" chance> were entirely composed of colours not found in nature? I'm sorry. I'm blanking here. What temporary tattoos? chance> We could've looked forward to yet _another_ revision had chance> a movie been pitched.... chance> ...the Tremblays were contemplating animatronics and chance> Live-action a la TMNT! Eew. I'm going to have to throw my lot with those who thinks this would have been a "Bad Idea"(tm). And there is very little reason for it. Humans don't appear in the Kat Universe all that frequently, so the need for live-action is minimized. Also, in the Animato episode guide, the person writing it said that the animation was almost feature quality, and Mook has experience in producing animated features. Of course, making a film to occupy an audience for ninety minutes is far different from making a 22 minute episode. Ed> Of course this begs the question of why he dislikes the Ed> SWAT Kats _so_ much. Well, in the first season, he really let the guys have it. But for the most part, this was before the SWAT Kats started saving his life on a regular basis. Also, he sees that Felina cares about them in the second season so he's not so quick to condemn. And in the second season, he gets to zing the guys at least once. ("Actually, I was going to thank you, but I changed my mind." 'Revenge is mine!' sayeth the hologram! Br) Bruno> there's a "Cartoon Network" magazine Maybe in Argentina, but not in the U.S. At least, that I know of Bruno> And guess who is in the cover of that..... Yes, him: Razor. Dang. I hope you can get your hands on enough copies for the entire list. Br) (I want one! I want one!) On the time travel thing, even the Pastmaster can't control the flow of time easily, and will make mistakes. He mentions this in "The Bride of the Pastmaster." Well, in "Bright and Shiny Future", the Pastmaster gets the heads from the Enforcer's Storage lockers, but the last time they were there was in the episode "Katastrophe." My theory is that the Pastmaster went into the past before that episode happened and the timestream fractured creating two alternate universes. In one, "Katastrophe" happened (Let's call it Reality K as Jim is not a good name for a dimension Br). In the other, it may have happened with different players as the heads of the Metallikats would not have been there for the Creeplings to steal (this one will be called Reality B). So, when the SWAT Kats are killed in Reality B, the Pastmaster goes to Reality K to send those SWAT Kats to Reality B in hope of killing Reality K's SWAT Kats and then returning to Reality K to take it over. Anyone who understood all that, please explain it to me. Br) Incidently, I'm not very good with omens, but towards the end of January the Cartoon Network started airing comercials for itself for the month of February. In the begining, Shaggy (I think), Big Dog (from Two Stupid Dogs), and RAZOR(!) open up the Cartoon Network Logo and say "Don't Miss This!" But I'm not in the portent business, so I can't tell if this is a good thing or a bad thing. August Paul Yang offers "Kzin" as the name for the Kat Planet. Br) wntrmute@tribeca.ios.com | For my Life Public Relations and Official Test Audience for the FDC | Still ahead, "Shakespeare would have loved your ratings system. | Pity me. -Queen Twelfth Night would have been lucky to have lasted one." -Max Headroom From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Feb 1 19:13:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA26802 for kats-ll; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:33:48 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA26792 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:33:46 -0500 Received: from net-1-142.austin.eden.com (net-1-142.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.142]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.3.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id RAA17743 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:33:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:33:35 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199602012333.RAA17743@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: The new commercial X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Incidently, I'm not very good with omens, neither am I. School had been closed!! and I'm at home, lotsa time to work on stories!!!! but towards the end of >January the Cartoon Network started airing comercials for itself >for the month of February. In the begining, Shaggy (I think), >Big Dog (from Two Stupid Dogs), and RAZOR(!) open up the Cartoon >Network Logo and say "Don't Miss This!" But I'm not in the >portent business, so I can't tell if this is a good thing or a bad >thing. Actually, I have seen this commercial before. I think it was when they were advertising the Swat Kats marathon, etc. And one other time, but I don't remember what. This is *NOT* a new commercial. You can actually trust me on this one. (evil little grin right here...) Oh yeah, and "Early Dawn" will get a titlie change and be postponed for a while longer in favor for a vampire/kats story. Sorry to anyone who was waiting for it. (If there were any!) Terra Chang, Swat Kats fan, writer, nice person, (really, I am!) totally crazy. ...who is now totally out of control. (Cold weather makes me even more hyper than sugar *ever* could!!) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Feb 1 19:41:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA26371 for kats-ll; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:24:30 -0500 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.MV.COM [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA26366 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:24:27 -0500 Received: from [164.67.21.119] (ts27-10.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.21.119]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with SMTP id SAA08977 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:24:19 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: rat-al@mv.mv.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 15:24:22 -0800 To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Updated FAQ!!! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net OK, it's about *time* I got around to sending this -- here's an updated FAQ for the SWAT Kats (please email me if you have any questions or corrections): Last Updated Thurs Feb 1 1996 SWAT Kats: The Radical Squadron Frequently Asked Questions =========================================================== _SWAT Kats: The Radical Squadron_ (SK) is an animated series created in 1993 by two French-Canadian brothers, Christian Tremblay and Yvon Tremblay. Using their self-taught drawing skills and their own money, they managed to sell their creation of anthropomorphic felines, otherwise known as "Kats", to Hanna-Barbera. H-B produced 23 episodes of the SWAT Kats, 13 for the first season (1993-94) and 10 for the second season (1994-95). The second season fell three episodes shy of a full set because, in the middle of production, Turner Entertainment ordered H-B to cancel production of the series and begin immediate layoffs, including half the background department and design team. The reason that Turner gave at the time was that the show wasn't moving merchandise -- although the series hardly had any merchandise to begin with (save for a handful of posters and Taiwanese trinkets with "SWAT Kats" labels on them)! Therefore, Turner decided to yank the show even though it had been doing very well in the ratings. Go figure. Note: A 24th episode, the "S.K.I.Q." episode, which contains clips from the first and second seasons' episodes, was also made and aired. It was originally set to lead the second season, but aired *after* the other second-season episodes. Unfortunately, because of fairly bad writing, this episode isn't as good as the other episodes (in my opinion). Three additional episodes were storyboarded and the voice tracks laid down, but are currently still in limbo (and may very well become the "lost episodes" of the series). Summaries of the missing episodes can be found in the "Animato!" article (see separate comment below). The *real* reason that Turner cancelled the series is a mystery, however; it may have been canned because of its violence and not because of its lack of merchandise. Check out your local stores for the following: - Action figures (produced by Remco) of some of the characters, including T-Bone, Razor, Dark Kat, Doctor Viper - Video releases of some of the episodes - Video game for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (none for Sega yet, unfortunately) Check out a KayBee for the action figures, Suncoast Video for the videos. A SK poster *was* available in early 1995 at various K-Marts around the U.S. (and Canada), but the stores have apparently been cleaned out of posters due to fan demand. However, you might get lucky if you check out your local store or write the poster's publisher at: American Arts & Graphics Inc 10915 47th Ave W. Mukilteo WA 98275 The Cartoon Network is currently running episodes of the Kats -- Monday through Friday, 5:30 PM Eastern/2:30 PM Pacific. The animation studios involved in 'Kats production are Hanho Heung-Up and Mook, the former being a Taiwan studio and the latter a Japanese studio. Both seasons' episodes show an anime (Japanimation) influence, especially the second season's episodes, which were animated entirely by Mook. Christian Tremblay apparently wanted Mook to do all of the episodes, but found it uneconomical to do so. What's the proper spelling of 'SWAT Kats'? Most likely it's the way it's being spelled in the FAQ. The full title is, of course: "SWAT Kats: The Radical Squadron", but there's been some question as to whether the word "SWAT Kats" should be written as a single word (i.e., "SWATKats"). And yes, it's with a "K", not a "C". T-Bone's and Razor's ages? According to Christian Tremblay, they're both in their mid-20s, but T-Bone is most definitely older. Trivia tidbit: Razor and T-Bone were initially named "Chuck" and "Yaeger", after the famous test pilot. Write your local station that carries the SWAT Kats (and/or TBS)! Tell them how much you like the series! You can also write H-B at: Hanna-Barbera Cartoons Inc. 3400 Cahuenga Blvd. West Hollywood, CA 90068 Attn: Fred Seibert When you write, you might want to include demographical information about yourself, such as your age, sex and geographic location. Hanna-Barbera is apparently very interested in learning who are fans of the 'Kats, so make yourself known! You can also fax H-B at (213) 969- 1201 (after all, "Kids Love SK", so please, "Tell Us What You Think!") Pet peeve: Animations are NOT for children!!! Check out the Fall '94 ish of _Toon Magazine_, if you can get ahold of a copy. There's an article on the SWAT Kats near the back of the magazine, along with copies of model sheets of T-Bone, Razor, Callie, Commander Feral, Felina Feral, Mayor Manx and the Turbokat (did I leave anything out?). There's also an SK writeup by Mark Lungo in "Animato!". Unfortunately I can't remember which issue number offhand (38?), but it's the one with Bart Simpson, Beavis and some other toons on the cover doing exactly what they aren't supposed to be doing! (BS&P would have a *fit*, I'm sure... ;-) Kats On The Net! Check these out, if you can: - alt.tv.swatkats (newsgroup) - FTP address for 'Kats stuff: rat.org, /pub/kats. Lotsa gifs/jpegs and other goodies there, including stuff from the SNES game (pics and theme song). - SK Web page: http://rat.org/kats - SK fan club on Prodigy - possible SK fan club starting up on FurryMUCK (telnet furry.org, port 8888) For the die-hard 'Kats fans: - To join a fan club (currently unofficial): email Walt Koziol (wkoziol@ix.netcom.com). - A fanzine, KAT'S ALIVE, is also in the works and will be available for a limited run (contact Timothy Fay [fayxx001@maroon.tc.unm.edu] for details). ========================================================================== FAQ maintained by: Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) Acknowledgements/Contributors To The FAQ: Andy Hill (chance@unix.infoserve.net) Timothy Fay (fayxx001@maroon.tc.unm.edu) Paul Hurley (rat@rat.org) Mark Lungo (Animato! article writer) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 2 06:47:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id FAA11508 for kats-ll; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 05:53:08 -0500 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.MV.COM [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id FAA11503 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 05:53:05 -0500 Received: from [164.67.22.87] (ts37-10.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.87]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with SMTP id FAA10423 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 05:52:58 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: rat-al@mv.mv.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 02:53:02 -0800 To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Kat-ching up... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Thanks to a hard disk crash, I've lost all my email since Saturday (and I haven't had a chance -- pardon the unintentional pun -- to download the recent archives from the list), but I'll comment on some of the digests I've seen since then: How independent is Razor? Well, as was stated, he can pilot the Turbokat on his own if need be (cf. "Mutation City"), although running out of fuel in mid-flight didn't exactly help. He's also good at piloting the Cyclotron Missile, and note that the secret files say that the pilot rating required for it is 'expert'. He may have nearly run over a few Kats (particularly in the ep "The Giant Bacteria"), but consider the circumstances: he's trying to find the closest exit to a subway to rejoin his partner so they can find and take care of the remaining bacteria. (Am I just making excuses to defend my favorite Kat here? ;-) Besides, T-Bone's driving, particularly those "shortcuts," leave a bit to be desired, don't you think? On Dark Kat being Feral's brother and Felina's father: what do you think this is, Star Wars? ;-) But seriously... I don't think Feral would have commented the way he did in "A Bright And Shiny Future" if that had been the case: "I oughta throw [Felina] off the force... but my brother would never speak to me again... and besides, she's too good an Enforcer!" Simon sez (I know, it's a bad pun, but... ;-) >Maybe Razor was licking his wounds or something before the ep ... he seems >to get bumped around a lot more than T-Bone :) No kidding. If Kats *do* lick themselves in response to stress, then why doesn't Razor get hairballs/furballs more often? Incidentally, that comment reminds me of the title of a poem written by Paul Gallico called "When In Doubt -- Wash." It's been said to apply to cats since they frequently groom themselves (unfortunately, I can't remember the poem right now -- it's been a while since I've read it). In any case, that's it for now. TTFN -- Ta Ta For Now... ============= Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ============= Also: razor@rat.org Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia razor@venom.st.hmc.edu From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 2 16:19:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA22274 for kats-ll; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 15:28:20 -0500 Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com ([198.81.11.25]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA22268 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 15:28:18 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA11656 for kats@bort.mv.net; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 15:27:21 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 15:27:21 -0500 Message-ID: <960202152721_212558068@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Kitty litter... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>I'm referring to the scene where >>Manx is turning on the shower & the ooze comes out. >That's the scene before we saw a kat stuck in a car - drowning. Do you mean Callie? I don't remember any other kats drowning (unless you count the homeless kat in the beginning, but you don't really see him drowning). > I think >that this is an alternative option instead of putting a cat in a bag and >then throwing the bag into a liquid enviroment. Of course criminals do this >all the time. Cats (as in actual real-life housecats) swim, so you have to put them in a bag before throwing them into a liquid enviornment. (just some useless information in case you didn't know already) BTW- How many of you out there are blessed with the joys of having an actual Cat? :-) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 2 21:02:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA14493 for kats-ll; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 20:00:59 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA14480 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 20:00:49 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.129] (dyn1129.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.129]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA12630 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 08:02:03 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 07:58:37 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Civilization Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>I'm always curiuos on the kats attitude, we know that they are civilized >>beings now, but do they still maintains their cat like behaviour after they >>have been civilized? > >What does it mean to be civilized? Do we judge the Kats civilization by >our standards? Well, since that the only civilization that we know is human civilization (Since that we haven't any formal contacts with other civilization outside ours.), so I may say that we sorta judge their civilization by our standards (Of course since that the kats civilization is based on ours, I guess that humans and kats are in the same position.). But I say that when animal grouped, build a community (Not shopping mall.) and began to develop some sort of languange, I called that civilized. >There may be events or habits in the Kats' world that we would find >totally disgusting, but they would consider >ordinary or common place. This is why I ask the question, do they still have cat habits? what is ordinary to them and not ordinary to us? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 2 21:15:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA14498 for kats-ll; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 20:01:01 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA14483 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 20:00:53 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.129] (dyn1129.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.129]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA12626 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 08:01:59 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 07:58:33 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Fanfic story. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >At 08:01 AM 1/24/96 +0700, you wrote: >>Have you checked out Ryan's "Midnight Magic" part 9, a, and b? These three >>came out after the New Year. And I think that I also saw Ryan's "Dark Ages" >>in rat.org. > >You mean my Tribute to Ted Turner didn't make it? Well, "A Tribute to Ted Turner " has become one with the "Dark Ages". >>Well, mine is still in writing (Although I doubt that even one of my fanfic >>will ever been seen by anyone else but me, since that I'm still stuck at >>chapter two in my first story.). >> >I can relate. Battle One Grey and Two Blue, that I'm writing is still with >the unfinished eps, in limbo! I think that most of us in this list want to create a fanfic story, but they got some obstacle that they must overcome to. And I think that once the obstacle has gone, I'm sure that the fanfic directory will be fill with lots of stories. >>To Ratman: >>I try to download Ryan's "Dark Ages" from rat.org, but my permission to ftp >>it is denied by the server. How do I download it from rat.org? >> >I get that too. Usually, when I change to a different server, It heals >itself, but I don't worry because the only new stuff is what I wrote, other >than Terra. She and I seem to do all the fanfics. I hope that my fanfics will be finish soon. >Mabye because we have SWAT Kats on the brain (after all, I do think about >them all hours of the day. Yes, they're appearing in my dreams now, too!!) Hmmm, "Dreams".... Does anybody here want to make a fanfic story when the SwatKats is having s strange dream sequence? >Ryan "Jake "B-ko Daitokuji" Shard" Kelley >SWAT Kats Extremist From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 2 22:17:03 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA17127 for kats-ll; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 20:49:56 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA17122 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 20:49:51 -0500 Received: from net-1-185.austin.eden.com (net-1-185.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.185]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.3.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id TAA23749 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 19:49:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 19:49:47 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199602030149.TAA23749@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Kitty litter... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >BTW- How many of you out there are blessed with the joys of having an actual >Cat? :-) I wish! I really truly wish! I'd get an orange one an' a blond one with tiger stripes and I'd name Jake and Chance. (Though, seriously, I'd call 'em that even if they were gray and black!) Vampires! I have been reading "The Vampire Chronicles" by Anne Rice (I *HIGHLY* recomend reading them!) and now I've got vampires on the brain! (again!) HELP!!!!!!!! ;) ;) ;) Terra Chang, Swat Kats fan, writer, nice person, (really, I am!) totally crazy. ...who is now totally out of control. (Cold weather makes me even more hyper than sugar *ever* could!!) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 3 17:47:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA27378 for kats-ll; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 17:30:48 -0500 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com (emout08.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.23]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA27373 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 17:30:45 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA15784 for kats@bort.mv.net; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 17:29:39 -0500 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 17:29:39 -0500 Message-ID: <960203172936_213378135@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: TCN Promos (was: Razor's career) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>I just caught a TCN promo for the month of February, and Razor was one of the >>characters in the "bumper" before the ad. It was done in the usual practice by TCN of >>putting snipits of animated characters in the checkerboard background. Other >>characters were the Big Dog (2 stupid) and one I don't recall right now. Shaggy (Scooby Doo) >> >They've come that far? Maybe Turner's Criminally Nuts (TCN) is wizing up! I remember a while back (last November) in the Toon Float parade, they showed the SWAT Kats saving Superman's arm. I have it on tape (somewhere), but that's one more thing TCN has done to promote the Kats. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 3 18:13:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA27372 for kats-ll; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 17:30:41 -0500 Received: from emout06.mail.aol.com (emout06.mail.aol.com [198.81.10.43]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA27365 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 17:30:38 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout06.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA12953 for kats@bort.mv.net; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 17:30:07 -0500 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 17:30:07 -0500 Message-ID: <960203173006_213378086@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Fanfic story. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Mabye because we have SWAT Kats on the brain (after all, I do think about >>them all hours of the day. Yes, they're appearing in my dreams now, too!!) Don't feel too strange (not that that matters), but they're in my dreams too (in color!) BTW- I just got one of Birthday presents today, The SWAT Kats SNES game !!!!! (finally) HURRRRAAAAYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The other one is Dark Kat's Doomsday device (so I can take over Turner's Cruddy Network and bring back SWAT Kats, and my dead mouse, It's The TURNER CURSE!!!), but Dark Kat hasn't been nice enough to lend me it yet. :-( Have a nice, strange day:-) Lt FFeral SWAT Kats Extremist! Don't worry Joe-Bob, we'll have our revenge!!! (Don't ask!) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 3 22:16:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA14729 for kats-ll; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:09:06 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA14724 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:09:01 -0500 Received: from sl1.redding.snowcrest.net (sl1.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.65]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA01675 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:17:36 -0800 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:17:36 -0800 Message-Id: <199602040317.TAA01675@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: B-ko Daitokuji Subject: Re: Razor's career Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >B-ko Daitokuji wrote: >>Turner's a $@#^! That's why! > >Hmmm, five letters, could it be that Turner is a "Feral"? Insult to Feral! Come on, Feral's not that bad! Look Ted is self-centered. I was watching Turner's Barly Sane (TBS), and what did I see, there was it's slogan "Wake up to TBS!" and there was Ted's coffe mug, with his name on it. I ask you, what kind of self important idiot would put valuable time into a half second on his coffee mug? And another thing, the movie that followed was edited for time. Why would anyone want to do that, so we can get another glimpse at his coffee mug, or his sickish face (it is an ugly site! I've seen the thing on TV!)? I ask you, go nice on Feral. Out of all the SWAT Kat characters, I empithasize with him the most and sometimes, I find I act just like him (weird!)! Don't ask me why, because I don't know!! Ryan "Jake "B-ko Daitokuji" Shard" Kelley Dear Lord, help me. I'm WAKO! SWAT Kats Extremist __________________________________________ This is just a moment of B-ko's life. Forget about it! I don't have all day!! - A-ko Magami You realize this will affect your grade! - Miss Ayumi Please stop fighting! - C-ko Kotobuki __________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 3 22:56:52 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA15438 for kats-ll; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:36:57 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA15429 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:36:54 -0500 Received: from sl1.redding.snowcrest.net (sl1.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.65]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA02572 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:45:30 -0800 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:45:30 -0800 Message-Id: <199602040345.TAA02572@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: B-ko Daitokuji Subject: Re: Updated FAQ!!! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 03:24 PM 2/1/96 -0800, you wrote: >OK, it's about *time* I got around to sending this -- here's an updated FAQ >for the SWAT Kats (please email me if you have any questions or >corrections): Finally! I'll be sure to do that! Ryan "Jake "B-ko Daitokuji" Shard" Kelley Dear Lord, help me. I'm WAKO! SWAT Kats Extremist __________________________________________ This is just a moment of B-ko's life. Forget about it! I don't have all day!! - A-ko Magami You realize this will affect your grade! - Miss Ayumi Please stop fighting! - C-ko Kotobuki __________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 3 23:22:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA15002 for kats-ll; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:19:44 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA14997 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:19:42 -0500 Received: from sl1.redding.snowcrest.net (sl1.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.65]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA01996 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:28:17 -0800 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:28:17 -0800 Message-Id: <199602040328.TAA01996@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: B-ko Daitokuji Subject: Re: Hairballs & Civilization Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>Same here. BTW, I'm still curious, does the kats still lick themself when >>>ever they needed a bath? >> >>I'm always curiuos on the kats attitude, we know that they are civilize >>beings now, but do they still maintains their cat like behaviour after they >>have been civilize? > >What does it mean to be civilized? Do we judge the Kats civilization by our standards? There may be events or >habits in the Kats' world that we would find totally disgusting, but they would consider ordinary or common >place. > A three year analisys I've done shows that they have their own customs. I think they lick themselves out of instinct, and use many things that Earthling cats use out of pure coincidence, just for the sake that they can't live without it. That's my guess, make your own, too. Ryan "Jake "B-ko Daitokuji" Shard" Kelley Dear Lord, help me. I'm WAKO! SWAT Kats Extremist __________________________________________ This is just a moment of B-ko's life. Forget about it! I don't have all day!! - A-ko Magami You realize this will affect your grade! - Miss Ayumi Please stop fighting! - C-ko Kotobuki __________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 3 23:23:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA14899 for kats-ll; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:13:15 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA14894 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:13:13 -0500 Received: from sl1.redding.snowcrest.net (sl1.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.65]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA01807 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:21:49 -0800 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:21:49 -0800 Message-Id: <199602040321.TAA01807@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: B-ko Daitokuji Subject: Re: Kat Commodes Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Same here. BTW, I'm still curious, does the kats still lick themself when >ever they needed a bath? I think so, but I'm not sure. Jake probably does, because he caughed up one in Bride of the Pastmaster. Wait, what shade of brown was it? Yikes! I won't sleep tonight over this! Thanks, B-ko! You're welcome, B-ko! Ryan "Jake "B-ko Daitokuji" Shard" Kelley Dear Lord, help me. I'm WAKO! SWAT Kats Extremist __________________________________________ This is just a moment of B-ko's life. Forget about it! I don't have all day!! - A-ko Magami You realize this will affect your grade! - Miss Ayumi Please stop fighting! - C-ko Kotobuki __________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 3 23:53:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA15314 for kats-ll; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:33:58 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA15309 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:33:55 -0500 Received: from sl1.redding.snowcrest.net (sl1.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.65]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA02473 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:42:28 -0800 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:42:28 -0800 Message-Id: <199602040342.TAA02473@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: B-ko Daitokuji Subject: Re: Fanfic story. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >>You mean my Tribute to Ted Turner didn't make it? > >Well, "A Tribute to Ted Turner " has become one with the "Dark Ages". Wha? What?? WHAT??? Who'se hairbrained idea was that? They should have been seperate? Was this just a computer error or am I going into my crazier state of mind? >>>Well, mine is still in writing (Although I doubt that even one of my fanfic >>>will ever been seen by anyone else but me, since that I'm still stuck at >>>chapter two in my first story.). >>> >>I can relate. Battle One Grey and Two Blue, that I'm writing is still with >>the unfinished eps, in limbo! Hey, B-ko! You got someone else to write it, and he continually draggs you down in it (I think so, anyway!!), so shuttup!! >>You Shuttup!! > >I think that most of us in this list want to create a fanfic story, but >they got some obstacle that they must overcome to. And I think that once >the obstacle has gone, I'm sure that the fanfic directory will be fill with >lots of stories. Yeah, I got what I want, now I get what I want and what I want is a fight! It's SWAT Kats alive again, or me dead, still trying in my afterlife! > >I hope that my fanfics will be finish soon. > You're not the only one who's hoping, here! >>Mabye because we have SWAT Kats on the brain (after all, I do think about >>them all hours of the day. Yes, they're appearing in my dreams now, too!!) > >Hmmm, "Dreams".... Does anybody here want to make a fanfic story when the >SwatKats is having a strange dream sequence? > I do! No, wait! I'm writing around four already! and I'm going to start on another! Anyone up to this idea? Ryan "Jake "B-ko Daitokuji" Shard" Kelley Dear Lord, help me. I'm WAKO! SWAT Kats Extremist __________________________________________ This is just a moment of B-ko's life. Forget about it! I don't have all day!! - A-ko Magami You realize this will affect your grade! - Miss Ayumi Please stop fighting! - C-ko Kotobuki __________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 4 07:17:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id HAA14220 for kats-ll; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 07:09:09 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA14212 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 07:09:00 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.57] (dyn1057.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.57]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA02748 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 19:10:05 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 19:06:40 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Litterboxes and Kat showers Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >and as far as Razor's furball in "Bride of the >Pastmaster" goes, my guess is that Kats must take regular showers, but will >resort to licking themselves for emergency grooming. Maybe some of them take showers and some don't. >One thing comes to mind though: house cats generally don't like water, Hmmm, let start a list on who like water and who don't, any suggestion on who like water and who don't? I think that I already got some ideas on who like water and who don't, but since that I only watch 9 episode presently, I need some help here. >although some larger cats, like tigers, will readily swim in or soak in >water, either to cool off or to pursue prey. I get the feeling that Kats >don't mind water, either (i.e., Megakat State Beach, Anakatta Island, etc.) >Comments? Maybe kats feelings for water is just like humans do for water, some of them may like water and some don't. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 4 07:25:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id HAA14228 for kats-ll; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 07:09:14 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA14211 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 07:09:00 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.57] (dyn1057.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.57]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA02752 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 19:10:10 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 19:06:46 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Blep.blep.blep. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>I'm referring to the scene where >>>Manx is turning on the shower & the ooze comes out. > >>That's the scene before we saw a kat stuck in a car - drowning. > >Do you mean Callie? Yep. We also see three other kats drowning. They are: Chance, the TurboKat, and Razor. >I don't remember any other kats drowning (unless you >count the homeless kat in the beginning, but you don't really see him >drowning). Well, he's kitty litter now. BTW, Callie seem to be jumping around avoiding from being wet, could it be that she hate water? >>I think that this is an alternative option instead of putting a cat in a >>bag and >>then throwing the bag into a liquid enviroment. Of course criminals do this >>all the time. > >Cats (as in actual real-life housecats) swim, I don't dare to test that theory, my sister will never talk to me again. >so you have to put them in a bag before throwing them into a liquid >enviornment. (just some useless information in case you didn't know >already)s How about if I lock the cat (Or kats.) in a car and then push the car into a liquid enviornment? will that will work too? Of course it will work! if it work for us humans, I guess that it will work for cats (Or kats.). >BTW- How many of you out there are blessed with the joys of having an actual >Cat? :-) I have, do you want to see a picture of them? :-) BTW, "Joys"? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 4 07:43:12 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id HAA14198 for kats-ll; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 07:08:44 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA14187 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 07:08:33 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.57] (dyn1057.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.57]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA02727 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 19:09:33 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 19:06:11 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Responbilities and Magic. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>Ah yes, two fun-loving, COMPLETELY reckless folks. The kid'll get >>>a kick out of that. > >>Well, people do became more reponsible when a kid is near them, I >>think that this is the reason on why Commander Feral became more of >>an adult when times goes by. He has to look after Felina. > >Feral's always been responsible. That's because he has a niece beside him. And I think that somebody here once said that Feral is an alley kat when he just a young kat. >Could Chance change? Naaaaaaaahh .. . Hey, if a kid is near him, I think that he will become more cautios on what he gonna do or say. >Reminder here that he's in his twenties and still watches Scardey >Kat. Scaredy Kat got nothing to do with responbilities. You could be a Mayor of a big city (No! I'm not talking about Manx.) and still watches Scaredy Kats. >>>Mages is plural for mage. A mage. It's a Lopinenean (culture >>>explained in the story) type of sorcerer. > >>So basicaly they are magicians, right? > >No offense, but I despise the word 'magician' and even 'magic.' How about the word "Luck"? Of course I never rejected a lucky horse shoe, it may come in handy. >Those words have really been dragged through the mud by guys with >tuxedos doing card tricks and slicing their assistants in half. I just hope that they can glued back their assistants again. :-) >They should be called "illusionists" or something instead. How about calling them "Technomages"? >In my seaQuest stories, I use words like thaurmaturgy and demonology, "thaurmaturgy" and "demonology"? >but being my fanfic does deal with a cartoon show that saws 'magic' quite >often, I'll use the word. How about the terms "paranormal activities"? > Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 4 07:47:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id HAA14332 for kats-ll; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 07:10:36 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA14257 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 07:10:00 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.57] (dyn1057.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.57]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA02762; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 19:10:23 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 19:06:58 +0700 To: cardinaj@cuug.ab.ca (Joane Cardinal-Schubert) From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Razor and Callista Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >In article you wrote: >: >>What kind of rivalry that you are talking about? >: > >: (chance is answering my question.) > >: Oh, that kind of rivarly, T-Bone is mad because Razor is getting all the >: attention from the Queen, and think that Razor is deviating from his duty >: as a SwatKat (And he's right.), what will happen if this happen again? I just read "Dark Ages", so I think that my question has been answered. >: >>Does she is really Callie's ancestor? I always think that she isn't >her ancestor. >: > >: >Not sure if Callista is intended as a linear ancestor of Callie >Briggs...I guess you could make a >: >worthy case for either side of the argument with equal validity. > >: Maybe it's the same family relation between some of the character from the >: series and the ones thats in my fanfic story. BTW, has anybdoy here noticed that Callista seem to be younger than Callie? >They make T-Bone and Razor Toooo Staniotypical, And how do they exspect >to get the programe (Hanna Barbara Productions) Seriously if they are >suppose to be such heros if they are so mechanicaly Declined. "Staniotypical"? what is that? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 4 07:57:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id HAA14199 for kats-ll; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 07:08:44 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA14188 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 07:08:34 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.57] (dyn1057.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.57]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA02734 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 19:09:43 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 19:06:21 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Search Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Hi there, > >Always on the lookout for ways to enlarge my cartoon-collection I >came across the SWAT Kats too. Actually I haven't seen anything from >the show yet (apart from the home-page of rats.org and the episode >guide) but I heard lots of good things about it and that's how it >ended up on my wanted list. Hope that you like it. :-) >I am in germany and especially keen on >getting shows in English, because we only get dubbed stuff here. The same goes here, fortunately I watched SWAT Kats on the Cartoon Network. So that I won't have to suffer from hearing a dubbed SWAT Kats. BTW, is the SWAT Kats there is dubbed? >There are lots of shows I'd like to get, but in this particular mailing-list >I'll guess asking for SWAT Kats has the highest chance of success. And I think that you may also has some success on finding tapes for copies of Gargoyles and some other Disney shows here, since that there is some fans of them in this list. >Well my request is basically for anyone who might be in the position >and willing to share copies of the show with me, i.e. sending them >around. The main problem will probably be that I can only use PAL here >in europe. I hope I can find some americans on this ml that have >multi-norm-equipment or maybe even SWAT Kat tapers from PAL countries I live in a PAL countries, unfortunately I'm only getting 9 episode of the SwatKats (Minus the Secret Files, I din't get the Secret Files on the "Cartoon Network" here.). So I cann't help you much here. >(I heard SWAT Kats are being broadcast on the cartoon network >worldwide right now, we have cable and our provider forbids dishes, >strange I know). A lot of country do that sorta thing. I think that they want to keep outside influence from entering their country. >Hoping for any answers. > >Yours > >Racer From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 4 07:59:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id HAA14205 for kats-ll; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 07:08:47 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA14189 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 07:08:36 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.57] (dyn1057.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.57]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA02719 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 19:09:21 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 19:05:55 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Dark Kat & Felina Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Dark Kat as Felina's father ?!? Holy Star Wars, you mean! > >"I am your FATHER, Felina. Join me on the Dark Side!" I know that sooner or later somebody will say that particular line. :-) Who knows? maybe she is the one who gonna pulled of his mask and we will finaly found out what Dark Kat really look like. Here's a fanfic idea for Felina and Dark Kat: The SwatKats almost got Dark Kat when suddenly they was stopped by Felina, and then she fired a sleeping gas so that the guys will get knock out by the gas while she take her father to a safe place. You may ask what is her line before he stopped the SwatKats on capturing her father, here you go: "Sorry SwatKats. But after all..., he _is_ my father." Well, I just thought that I give you guys some more fuel for this crazy fanfic thing. :-) >Fanfic Idea: If you want to get the boys off the hook paying for the >Enforcer building, Feral's death probably wouldn't do it. Since that they owe it to the city and not to Feral. If Feral die, then nothing will happen, only the city will lost a great Commander and Steel take over the Enforcer (Assuming that he is the next avaiable rank after Feral.), Felina get upset and leave the Enforcer. >A better idea: >Felina disobeys or "ignores" a direct order, and the building gets blown >up again. On what reason does she disobey or "ignores" a direct order? Felina is not the type of kat that will disobey an order unless something personal is happening. >The precedent has already been set: >Felina is drummed out of the force, and has to work a skut job until she >pays for the building. Feral can't stand this, but he can't let her off the >hook BECAUSE she's related to him. Even in Manx's administration, that >would be too dirty. Well, I think that Manx's administration is fine with me. And I also think that Manx is a very smart mayor. >Feral also can't admit that he made a mistake with >Chance & Jake. Feral will have to "find" some reason or information that >will clear the boys, so that Felina can come back. I don't think that Feral will want Felina back in the Enforcer, I think that what he wants for Felina is for her to live a normal and safe life. I think that Feral will be glad if Felina is not on the Enforcer anymore. I got another fanfic idea so that Jake and Chance can release themself from the junkyard: Let Jake build a company of his own! Then when they have got enough money, they can pay for the bill that Feral give to them. >If they're cleared, and asked to re-join the enforcers, they're gonna have >to refuse. I don't think that the Enforcer will be to hot about signing back the "demolition team". >MegaKat city is too dangerous to do without the SwatKats! Then what will happen if the SwatKats die? MegaWar 3? >They can't leave their base, and access to all that scrapped PumaDyne >hardware! Unless somebody help them. >They'll be viewed as cowards for not re-joining the Enforcers, >but they can do more for the city outside the law. Assuming that the Enforcer want them to comeback. And if they do comeback, I think that they will be treated poorly by other Enforcer. >What will Callie think? I think that she will still have the same opinion on the guys. She will respect all decision that the guys make, no matter what the reason is. >Right now she feels sorry for them, but if they're cleared & stay in their >salvage jobs she won't be impressed. Well, if Chance found out that it was her true feelings for them (Although I doubt that Callie really think that at the guys.), he'll be really mad for sure. >--------------------- >Paul Kemner From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 4 11:55:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA28238 for kats-ll; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 11:27:59 -0500 Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA28233 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 11:27:56 -0500 Received: from tole-cs-3.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-3.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.103]) by brutus.bright.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA07838 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 11:21:42 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 11:21:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199602041621.LAA07838@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Who owns Cats? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I've got THREE (all were strays)! Well, Chloe (12 yrs old) is my wife's cat. I've got her trained (the cat, not my wife!) to do some simple tricks & commands. She's a washed-out pastel calico. Fricassee is the second. She's about 4 years old, and is a carrier for FeLV virus, so she lives in the basement, where my workshop is. She's a sleek oriental-looking tortise-shell with a grating abrasive meow that I just love. Eventually the disease will catch up with her, but right now her life is a lot better than the alternatives! Rohlfs (about 1.5 yrs) is a black, ginger, and white tabby with a target pattern on his left side (yikes! He doesn't want to be a PumaDyne security guard!). He's a large cat that loves to eat, and he's some sort of Tao master. Not very forceful, but he usually seems to quietly get what he wants. His full name is "All-Purpose Cultural Rohlfs-Cat" a reference to Nuku-Nuku. It's interesting how individual cats can be. If you treat them like a worthless lump, they usually are, but if you work with them & expect something from them they will surprise you. BTW- all these cats have secret names & identities. --------------------- Paul Kemner | "Many people appear to imagine that they cannot Toledo, Ohio | afford to have artistic surroundings, whereas pkemner@bright.net | the wonder is that they can afford so much --------------------- expensive ugliness." M. H. Baillie Scott From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 4 12:23:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA01336 for kats-ll; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 11:56:39 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA01325 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 11:56:36 -0500 Received: from net-1-141.austin.eden.com (net-1-141.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.141]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.3.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id KAA08699 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 10:56:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 10:56:32 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199602041656.KAA08699@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Blep.blep.blep. X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Yep. We also see three other kats drowning. They are: Chance, the TurboKat, >and Razor. I liked that scene, don't tell anyone, but I think I'm secretly a sympathetic romantic. Shhhhh! Forget I said that!! >Well, he's kitty litter now. Pun intended, I assume? >BTW, Callie seem to be jumping around avoiding from being wet, could it be >that she hate water? > >How about if I lock the cat (Or kats.) in a car and then push the car into >a liquid enviornment? will that will work too? Of course it will work! if >it work for us humans, I guess that it will work for cats (Or kats.). Do NOT hurt the cat, or your sister won't be the only one who'll never speak to you again!! I like cats! They're my favorite animals!! >I have, do you want to see a picture of them? :-) Yeah! What are their names!! (them?) >BTW, "Joys"? If you don't like real cats, then why do you like the Swat Kats so much?? I mean, even Courtney, a self-certified dog lover admits to liking certain types of cats. (With a 'c' and not a 'k', that is!!!) Terra Chang, Swat Kats fan, writer, nice person (really, I am!) totally crazy.* *Help me somebody, before I strike again, I am ****CRAZY****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 4 16:35:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA15887 for kats-ll; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 16:05:00 -0500 Received: from dns.mcn.net (root@dns.mcn.net [204.212.170.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA15881 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 16:04:57 -0500 Received: from blpm01-192.MCN.NET (blpm01-192.MCN.NET [204.212.170.192]) by dns.mcn.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA08031 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 14:05:03 -0700 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 14:05:03 -0700 Message-Id: <199602042105.OAA08031@dns.mcn.net> X-Sender: ninja@mcn.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: ninja@mcn.net (Kurt Prowell) Subject: unsubcribe kats Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net unsubcribe kats From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 4 19:21:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA27971 for kats-ll; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 18:57:08 -0500 Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com (emout04.mail.aol.com [198.81.10.12]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA27966 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 18:57:06 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA18019 for kats@bort.mv.net; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 18:56:35 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 18:56:35 -0500 Message-ID: <960204185634_135794399@emout04.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Razor and Callista Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >BTW, has anybdoy here noticed that Callista seem to be younger than Callie? It's probably just the way she looks. If you put Callie in a dress and take her glasses, they would probably look to be around the same age. Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa Anne Don't worry Joe-Bob, WE WILL HAVE OUR REVENGE!!! (don't ask!) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 4 19:41:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA27965 for kats-ll; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 18:57:05 -0500 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com (mail02.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.66]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA27960 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 18:57:02 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA18901 for kats@bort.mv.net; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 18:56:32 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 18:56:32 -0500 Message-ID: <960204185631_135794369@mail02.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Responbilities and Magic. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>>Ah yes, two fun-loving, COMPLETELY reckless folks. The kid'll get >>>>a kick out of that. >> >>>Well, people do became more reponsible when a kid is near them, I >>>think that this is the reason on why Commander Feral became more of >>>an adult when times goes by. He has to look after Felina. It also works the opposite way. Kids are usually more responsible around adults and adults around elders,although, there are a few exceptions. I guess people (or kats) are just more relaxed around their peers. Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa Anne Don't worry Joe-Bob, WE WILL HAVE OUR REVENGE!!! (don't ask!) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 4 19:52:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA27983 for kats-ll; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 18:57:18 -0500 Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA27978 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 18:57:16 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA08094 for kats@bort.mv.net; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 18:56:24 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 18:56:24 -0500 Message-ID: <960204185623_135794534@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Blep.blep.blep. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>BTW, "Joys"? >If you don't like real cats, then why do you like the Swat Kats so much?? I >mean, even Courtney, a self-certified dog lover admits to liking certain >types of cats. (With a 'c' and not a 'k', that is!!!) I like cats, I really do!, but my cat has a tendancy to get on my nerves. My cat, Cotton Razor-T-bone-Jake-Chance (strange name, I know) has a few certain annoying habits that, after a while, get to you. For instance, he likes to wake me up at 2 in the morning (et), so he can go outside and come back in 10 minutes later. He bangs himself against my bathroom door, and he's my own personal alarm clock in the morning. Most of these habits are forgivable, 'cause no cats (or kats, for that matter) are perfect. I guess that's why I love cats so much, their personality. I was kinda being sarcastic (spelling?) about being sarcastic. :-) BTW- My cat is a black, white, and grey, American shorthair tabby, with white socks and bib. Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa Anne Don't worry Joe-Bob, WE WILL HAVE OUR REVENGE!!! (don't ask!) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 4 23:51:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA14152 for kats-ll; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 23:25:49 -0500 Received: from camus.delphi.com (root@camus-s1.delphi.com [206.15.105.43]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA14143 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 23:25:46 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (slip109-183.bb.delphi.com [206.15.109.183]) by camus.delphi.com (8.7.1/8.7.2/SMTP GW 1.1) with SMTP id XAA26822 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 23:25:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 23:25:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199602050425.XAA26822@camus.delphi.com> X-Sender: matt_w@pop.mci.newscorp.com X-Mailer: Windows Mail Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: MATT WEBER Subject: Computer Trading Cards #1 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net There is a new GIF (w-ctc-1.gif) at the ftp site. You can read the text file if you want specific info. Basically, it's the first of a (hopefully) series of "cards" using the idea of the "video trading cards" that H-B played on TBS. Comments are welcomed! (Please comment! Please?!) You'll find it at: http://rat.org/pub/kats/images/drawn/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us Purrcy on IRC #swatkats & on Furtoonia SWAT KATS: The Radical Squadron: The Radical Fan Club --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 5 16:30:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA18680 for kats-ll; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 15:47:30 -0500 Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA18429 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 15:47:02 -0500 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ab18111; 5 Feb 96 19:17 GMT Received: from gunk.demon.co.uk ([158.152.14.46]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa21696; 5 Feb 96 19:06 GMT To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ben Carter Subject: Re: Who owns Cats? References: <199602041621.LAA07838@brutus.bright.net> In-Reply-To: <199602041621.LAA07838@brutus.bright.net> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 21:45:56 GMT Message-ID: <19960204.214556.28@gunk.demon.co.uk> Organization: You must be joking! X-Mailer: Archimedes TTFN Version 0.36 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net In message <199602041621.LAA07838@brutus.bright.net> you wrote: > I've got THREE (all were strays)! Well, Chloe (12 yrs old) is my wife's cat. > I've got her trained (the cat, not my wife!) to do some simple tricks & > commands. She's a washed-out pastel calico. [snip] I've got a tabby (from a USPCA shelter) called "Flint" - He can be a bit of a pain at times (especially when he decides to use the monitor as a springboard to get out of the window(!), but generally he's content to wander around the house getting repeatedly fed and cuddled by various members of the family (have you noticed this? Cats often make use of the poor communication between humans to get fed more than once! (or at least ours does!)). As far as I know he doesn't have a secret identity, although he does seem to spend an inordinate amount of time on the roof... ...prehaps I should check for landing lights up there! -- Ben Carter +-------------------------------+ A!JW21 WAR+++ R&R+++++ SL- PP! Df $+ |Formerly c.carter@ulst.ac.uk...| TRita E10 PonSadMeal XTakeYou A16 GM |... now ben@gunk.demon.co.uk! | +-------------------------------+ "Quick! Extra boiling oil!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 5 17:02:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA21364 for kats-ll; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 16:23:09 -0500 Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA21359 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 16:23:07 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com (mailout2.prodigy.com [199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA30570 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 16:10:11 -0500 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 16:08:55 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.00404572.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Responbilities and Magic. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Could Chance change? Naaaaaaaahh .. . >Hey, if a kid is near him, I think that he will become more cautios on what >he gonna do or say. Mabye, but ALL THE TIME? I don't think he would make a very responsible parent. >>No offense, but I despise the word 'magician' and even 'magic.' >How about the word "Luck"? Of course I never rejected a lucky horse shoe, >it may come in handy. Luck has absolutely nothing to do with magic. >>They should be called "illusionists" or something instead. >How about calling them "Technomages"? Why would we do that? They don't use real magic so we couldn't call them mages, and why does have the stuff they do have to do with technology? Harry Houdini didn't have a computer. Most of the stuff involves sliding shafts and hidden stuff. >>but being my fanfic does deal with a cartoon show that saws 'magic' quite >>often, I'll use the word. >How about the terms "paranormal activities"? Then you're thinking X-files, or voodoo, or supernatural forces. Though close by, not truly magic. NO MORE SPOILERS! TO ANYONE! YOU'LL HAVE JUST HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL IT COMES OUT (WHICH SHOULD BE VERY SOON). Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 5 21:09:52 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA08687 for kats-ll; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 20:35:24 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA08676 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 20:35:13 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d147.infoserve.net [199.175.157.147]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA10924 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 17:39:10 -0800 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 17:39:10 -0800 Message-Id: <199602060139.RAA10924@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: We've been under the microscope... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I didn't pass this around earlier just to be fair, but Turner's Public Relations 2IC has been reading the katmail for the last two months or so for an undetermined purpose. They've unsubscribed now, but likely because their mailbox kinda overflowed with enthusiastic katfans! I hope some kind of lesson was learned by them, and I might ask a few followup questions of the dude to see if the Tedco position has altered somewhat for the experience. Also, I've been away for a week, so kat-ching up is a bit of a chore. If someone slung something my way in the form of a list-post that needed a reply - I'll get to it shortly. I should take this opportunity to point out (in reply to a message "just under 6K" by the long lost August Paul Yang) that Professor Hackle first assembled the Metallikats in "The Metallikats" episode by combining their drowned remains with those of the robots seen next to their bodies washed up on the beach. Hackle is also given the robot remains of Mac and Molly at the conclusion of "Metal Urgency", with the strong implication that they'd be reassembled at some later date. I also see Dana has updated the FAQ after I said I'd take care of it. Good, actually - it didn't look as though I'd have the time anyhoo. I also just got "Metallikats Attack" from Matt Weber, and noticed that you American types get a _lot_ more stuff than us Back-Bacon and Igloo citizens north of the 49th. Tedco went through an awful lot of trouble to put all those testimonials by the kiddies in the beginning trailer on that tape, yet quotes "ratings" as the cancellation reasoning to its own employees? Um..yeah. Light up another one there, Ted... The quality of the taping is far superior to the Canuck pressings too - as your versions don't have the telltale "bending" of the vid information at the top which shows up on so many Canadian dubs (usually due to "Macrovision"). The temporary tattoos were just as bad in the colour department as the Northern versions, if not even worse. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 6 00:38:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA24378 for kats-ll; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 23:59:08 -0500 Received: from tribeca.ios.com (root@tribeca.ios.com [198.4.75.48]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA24371 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 23:59:05 -0500 Received: from wntrmute.ios.com (ppp-26.ts-9.hck.idt.net [169.132.51.98]) by tribeca.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA19863 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 23:52:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 23:52:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199602060452.XAA19863@tribeca.ios.com> X-Sender: wntrmute@tribeca.ios.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: wntrmute@tribeca.ios.com (August Yang) Subject: Nitpicker's Guide to SWAT Kats Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net A little while ago someone (forgot who, sorry!) said they should start "The Nitpickers Guide to SWAT Kats." Well, here's something that might go into that guide... Everyone in MegaKat city - Ann Gora, Mayor Manx, Commander and Lieutenant Feral, Calico Briggs - wears footwear. Boots, high heels, shoes, etc. Even Chance and Jake... except when they're the SWAT Kats, then they run around bear-foot, er, pawed. Why is this? Br) And what happens if T-Bone or Razor is ticklish? August Paul Yang is off to find a very large feather... -- wntrmute@tribeca.ios.com | For my Life Public Relations and Official Test Audience for the FDC | Still ahead, "Shakespeare would have loved your ratings system. | Pity me. -Queen Twelfth Night would have been lucky to have lasted one." -Max Headroom From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 6 01:01:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA24178 for kats-ll; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 23:53:17 -0500 Received: from tribeca.ios.com (root@tribeca.ios.com [198.4.75.48]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA24163 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 23:53:12 -0500 Received: from wntrmute.ios.com (ppp-26.ts-9.hck.idt.net [169.132.51.98]) by tribeca.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA18921 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 23:46:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 23:46:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199602060446.XAA18921@tribeca.ios.com> X-Sender: wntrmute@tribeca.ios.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: wntrmute@tribeca.ios.com (August Yang) Subject: Lost in Cyberspace Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Well, I'm back again! And once again, here is a rather large post from me. (Under 5K, this time I'm sure!) Edo> Have you guys ever think about the Kats as a parent? How about the other end of the spectrum? Has anyone thought about what the guys would be like as kids? Would they know each other? Maybe they were childhood friends and one convinved the other to join the enforcers. I'd like to think that they were friends as kids as the bond they share is far too strong to be forged just during their academy days. Edo> what could cause the appearance of a big moon? It's an optical illusion. If you look at the moon of our world, the closer it is to the horizon, the bigger it seems to be. The farther away the moons is from the horizon, the smaller it seems to be. However, if you take a ruler and measure the moon, you'll find the moon does not actually "change size." I'm not sure, however, why the moon seems bigger the close it is to the horizon. Matt> Could it be possible that Dark Kat is actually Cmdr. Feral's Matt> brother and Felina's father? Nah. First of all, when Felina's risking her neck in "A Bright and Shiny Future", Feral says he would throw her of the force for her own protection but "my brother would never speak to me again". Clearly, Ulysses (sp?) cares for his brother very much, yet seems to hate Dark Kat with an almost unnatural passion. Besides, that would really be too soap-opera-ish for the series. Bleh. B-ko> Turner's Cruddy Network (TCN [Cartoon Network]) Ouch! Feeling a little bitter, B-ko? Br) Right now, TCN is the only place where people can see SWAT Kats (just got it myself) and they seem to want to support it as best they can. Granted, they are a part of the evil which is Turner Broadcasting, but it's not that bad once you get to know it. Ed> Have Kat meals ever been shown? If so, were there any vegetable, Ed> bread, etc? Yup. In "The Metalikats", Chance is shown noshing on a sandwich while watching "Scardy Kat". The sandwich is composed of bread, lettuce, and (apparently) anchovies. Then there's the famous chili pepper scene... LtFFeral> How many of you out there are blessed with the joys of LtFFeral> having an actual Cat? Well, you can add my name to the list. My cat's name is "Johnathon" although he has a chinese name "Mao Bi" which means "Brush Pen" because he used to like to drink ink.... Not a cat that's going to be piloting the TurboKat anytime soon. B-ko> Yes, they're appearing in my dreams now, too!! You too? I recently had a dream about the SWAT Kats, I was Razor and the Pastmaster was mucking with time again, but doing it on a more subtle level so that a lot people did not realize they were being dragged into the past. Saw a hippie Chance in my dream.... Weird! Edo> Does anybody here want to make a fanfic story when the Edo> SwatKats is having s strange dream sequence? Well, in my story, "The Golden Child", Jake has a dream sequence but I'm not happy with it as I think it gives too much away at the begining but it's too hard to re-write. *sigh* Edo> "thaurmaturgy" and "demonology"? Thaurmaturgy is "magic", I think this is what our magicians call their own magic. Demonology is the study of demons, like their names, what are their sphere of influence, and what is their position in the heirarchy of Hell. To link this with SWAT Kats, what kind of demons do you think are in Kat mythology? chance> Turner's Public Relations 2IC has been reading the katmail chance> for the last two months I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing. It's a good thing if they see how many people are on the list and really enjoyed the SWAT Kats (esp. if they were here for the toys thread). It's a bad thing if they pick up on what kind of wackos we *really* are. Br) chance> "just under 6K" Allow me to apologize again for that post. It's how I usually do things since I only have enough time to post once a week (now) and I really don't want to repeat things which have already been said. August Paul Yang may have to change his posting style. -- wntrmute@tribeca.ios.com | For my Life Public Relations and Official Test Audience for the FDC | Still ahead, "Shakespeare would have loved your ratings system. | Pity me. -Queen Twelfth Night would have been lucky to have lasted one." -Max Headroom From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 6 08:46:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id HAA29690 for kats-ll; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 07:41:16 -0500 Received: from access.netaxs.com (mail@access.netaxs.com [198.69.186.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA29685 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 07:41:12 -0500 Received: from unix2.netaxs.com (flogistn@unix2.netaxs.com [207.8.186.4]) by access.netaxs.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id HAA07008 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 07:41:43 -0500 From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" Received: (flogistn@localhost) by unix2.netaxs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id HAA13142 for kats@bort.mv.net; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 07:41:41 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 07:41:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199602061241.HAA13142@unix2.netaxs.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Nitpicking the bare paws Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net T-bone and Razor do not wear any footwear. Why? Simple. Agility. Dexterity. The same reason that tightrope walkers are barefoot. The boys can use their toe-claws to help them climb; they can grip the ground to run better. As they appear to be highly-trained in the Martial arts, bare feet would go along with that as well. Now riddle me this: why do they have pink triangles on their helmets? ;) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 6 11:10:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA15541 for kats-ll; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 10:53:26 -0500 Received: from PICA.ARMY.MIL (polar.pica.army.mil [129.139.68.37]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA15535 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 10:53:21 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 96 10:55:07 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Nitpicking the bare paws Message-ID: <9602061055.aa11544@polar.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Doc Konway: >T-bone and Razor do not wear any footwear. Why? > >Simple. Agility. Dexterity. The same reason that tightrope walkers are >barefoot. The boys can use their toe-claws to help them climb; they can grip >the ground to run better. As they appear to be highly-trained in the Martial >arts, bare feet would go along with that as well. Unfortunately martial artists and tightrope walkers don't operate in combat conditions, where there is substantial risk of stepping on nasty things. Granted cat, and presumably Kat, feet are better for this, but IMHO some sort of footwear would be needed, perhaps with metal claws to give them some of the abilities they have with bare feet. There was a discussion along these lines in alt.fan.furry a couple of months ago. >Now riddle me this: why do they have pink triangles on their helmets? ;) And does it mean the same thing it does here? :) Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 6 20:37:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA29913 for kats-ll; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 20:17:55 -0500 Received: from ix4.ix.netcom.com (ix4.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA29907 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 20:17:52 -0500 Received: from by ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id RAA07225; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 17:17:15 -0800 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 17:17:15 -0800 Message-Id: <199602070117.RAA07225@ix4.ix.netcom.com> From: jfurlong@ix.netcom.com (John Furlong) Subject: Re: unsubcribe kats To: kats@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net unsubcribe kats -- Jack Furlong - HillBluffer - FurryMUCK, FurToonia, and Fluffmuck Furry / Anime Artist Bearly Sane Studios Po Box 9104 Largo, Fla 34641-9104 Home Page ----- http://www.cyberspy.com/~perkunas/jackhome.html Lycans Index -- http://www.furry.com/lycos/furlojac.html From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 6 21:36:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA03752 for kats-ll; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 21:08:10 -0500 Received: from camus.delphi.com (root@camus-s1.delphi.com [206.15.105.43]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA03740 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 21:08:08 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (slip110-81.bb.delphi.com [206.15.110.81]) by camus.delphi.com (8.7.1/8.7.2/SMTP GW 1.1) with SMTP id VAA30029 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 21:07:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 21:07:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199602070207.VAA30029@camus.delphi.com> X-Sender: matt_w@pop.mci.newscorp.com X-Mailer: Windows Mail Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: MATT WEBER Subject: Re: Nitpicking the bare paws Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 07:41 AM 2/6/96 -0500, you wrote: >Now riddle me this: why do they have pink triangles on their helmets? ;) Pink?? Heh. Well, the _red_ triangles tell them which way to put their helmets on of course! :) --------------------------------------------------------------------- play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us Purrcy on IRC #swatkats & on Furtoonia SWAT KATS: The Radical Squadron: The Radical Fan Club --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 6 22:35:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA07395 for kats-ll; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 21:57:56 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA07377 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 21:57:38 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d160.infoserve.net [199.175.157.160]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA23614 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 19:02:47 -0800 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 19:02:47 -0800 Message-Id: <199602070302.TAA23614@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Nitpicking the bare paws Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >T-bone and Razor do not wear any footwear. Why? > >Simple. Agility. Dexterity. The same reason that tightrope walkers are >barefoot. The boys can use their toe-claws to help them climb; they can grip >the ground to run better. As they appear to be highly-trained in the Martial >arts, bare feet would go along with that as well. > >Now riddle me this: why do they have pink triangles on their helmets? ;) Hmm...fellow WWII fan, methinks. For the entertainment of fellow listmembers, the Nazis forced homosexuals in the extermination camps to wear pink triangles in much the same fashion as Jewish people were forced to wear a yellow "Star of David". I think someone's been looking at things I wouldn't show my mother! _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Feb 7 03:42:45 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id DAA07557 for kats-ll; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 03:02:45 -0500 Received: from merlim.mandic.com.br (merlim.mandic.com.br [200.246.227.35]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id DAA07552 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 03:02:37 -0500 Received: by merlim.mandic.com.br (8.6.12/SMI-SVR4) id GAA09782; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 06:02:49 -0200 Subject: The kats in your eyes From: artur.hara@mandic.com.br (ARTUR HARA) Message-ID: <8BA515D.012C06A470.uuout@mandic.com.br> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 96 05:49:00 -0200 Organization: MANDIC BBS (011) 816-3911 http://www.mandic.com.br X-Mailreader: PCBoard Version 15.22 X-Mailer: PCBoard/UUOUT Version 1.20 Content-Type: text Content-Length: 839 Apparently-To: KATS@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hi people, Other day I was watching Dr. Sinian and I saw special things in your characteristics, she looked a latin woman. "Tanned" hair and dark eyes. I think that she is very hot internally, although she looked calm outside. To me she was alike with Rachel Ticotin, but with less strong character, although with looked body. I thought that felina be alike Sandra Bullock, the same wild virtue, emotions and speed. Eyes and hairs certainly. I didn't find a woman that be alike Callie. Would she be Bridget Fonda? Or Jane? I think that the last is more probable. Why? She was in great politic activity in 60's/70's I think. Callie is deputy mayor, maybe the later phase of Jane. Meanwhile Callie is special, her nose, mouth and cheeks became her very singular. ... The OFFICIAL tagline of the 1996 Olympics! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Feb 8 08:57:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA12903 for kats-ll; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 08:12:39 -0500 Received: from [164.67.21.130] (ts23-11.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.20.200]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA12896 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 08:12:31 -0500 X-Sender: rat1@bort.mv.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 05:12:35 -0800 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: Kat web page update Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Just a brief tidbit for the list: I've updated the web pages for T-Bone, Razor and the SWAT Kats on rat.org. The pages now contain thumbnails of T-Bone for his web page, Razor for his and the SK logo for the SK page. You can click on the images themselves to load up a full-size image; this, of course, assumes you're using a graphics-supporting browser like Netscape. (If you have a text-only browser like Lynx, you'll have to download the images to view them). The web page site is in the FAQ, but for your convenience here it is: "http://rat.org/razor." Please let me know what you think of the web page! ============== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ============== Also: razor@netcom.com Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia razor@venom.st.hmc.edu From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 9 22:05:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA05319 for kats-ll; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 20:59:53 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.232.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA05310 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 20:59:47 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA22212; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 21:04:31 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 21:04:31 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Nitpicking the bare paws In-Reply-To: <199602061241.HAA13142@unix2.netaxs.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Why do they have pink triangles on their head? Uhh. sorry. They're red. Does the TurboKat have pink on it too? Turbokat has no pink. just red A.J. Freda You want SWAT Kats sound clips, I'll make em! ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us Soon coming to rat.org: 16bit,44.1Khz, stereo "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kat WAV files!!!! Ranging from 4-10Mb! SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 9 22:27:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA03020 for kats-ll; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 20:41:08 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.232.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA03015 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 20:41:01 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA14016; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 20:45:50 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 20:45:49 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: How to draw Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Okay, I bet many of you have thought I became a lurker, but you're wrong! And I'll prove it!! Many of you have probably tried to draw T-Bone or any other SWAT Kat character, and said, "I can't do this! It just doesn't look right!" Well, you can make it look right now! How to draw T-Bone's face: Draw a circle. Just a normal circle of how big ya want his face. Next, pretend it's a sphere. Draw a rounded line around the circle vertically. Do the same for horizontal. Make shure the place where the two lines cross is the middle of his nose. I can't explain much more in text, so when I am able to make attachments, I'll make a pbrush pic of it. A.J. Freda You want SWAT Kats sound clips, I'll make em! ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us Soon coming to rat.org: 16bit,44.1Khz, stereo "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kat WAV files!!!! Ranging from 4-10Mb! SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 9 22:28:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA05208 for kats-ll; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 20:55:25 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.232.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA05203 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 20:55:18 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA20318; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 21:00:03 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 21:00:02 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Nitpicker's Guide to SWAT Kats In-Reply-To: <199602060452.XAA19863@tribeca.ios.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Another nitpicker guide thing: When they are chsing the red lynx near the end of that ep, when t-bone says: "Where'd he go?" his nose turns black. There's also a bug in Cry Turmoil, I think it's around where T-Bone is gonna kick Razor off the ship. A few notes about my absence: Though it seems I have not been doing many kat things lately, I have been. I'm uploading tons of kat stuff to my fav. bbs. I'm sub-sysop there. There's a file area called "SwatKats" also. They're about to get internet soon, so you might wanna check it out. Some other stuff there too, like WAV files and sound bites From "What do you think I am, stupid? Bingo!" to "Where'd you learn to drive, the demolishion derby? So I ran a couple a stop signs. Yeah, and here they all are. A.J. Freda You want SWAT Kats sound clips, I'll make em! ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us Soon coming to rat.org: 16bit,44.1Khz, stereo "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kat WAV files!!!! Ranging from 4-10Mb! SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 9 22:41:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA06184 for kats-ll; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 21:24:57 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.232.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA06173 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 21:24:51 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA17093; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 20:52:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 20:52:41 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: SK MIDI Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net SWAT Kats midi is done, but cheezier than the snes kats.wav at rat. CHANCE!!!!! I need the sheet music to the kat themes and the correct instruments! Can you get this from Lance Falk? Does anyone else know the correct instruments and possible notes? The one I made is in F major. A.J. Freda You want SWAT Kats sound clips, I'll make em! ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us Soon coming to rat.org: 16bit,44.1Khz, stereo "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kat WAV files!!!! Ranging from 4-10Mb! SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 9 23:01:38 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA06200 for kats-ll; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 21:25:16 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.232.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA06192 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 21:25:11 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA16374; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 20:50:46 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 20:50:46 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Katmosphere Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net "When Stikes Mutilor answers all of our kat air questions! yes, kats DO breathe oxygen, because after the come out of the water Mutilor trapped them in, Razor says, "Haven't you ever heard of oxygen masks?" Another article: RE: Origin of Dark Kat Secret Files say current wherabouts: Unknown Another article: Re: Kat=Cat and origin of DK Another sci fi idea with humans and kats: To continue that virus theory, maybe it only attacked humans, and humans found that cats are immune, so the did like a jurassic park bredding thing to make human cats, but to not confuse the two, they called human cats Kats. A.J. Freda You want SWAT Kats sound clips, I'll make em! ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us Soon coming to rat.org: 16bit,44.1Khz, stereo "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kat WAV files!!!! Ranging from 4-10Mb! SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 10 00:12:05 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA13673 for kats-ll; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 23:32:49 -0500 Received: from [164.67.20.178] (ts22-5.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.20.178]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA13667 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 1996 23:32:42 -0500 X-Sender: rat1@bort.mv.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 20:32:45 -0800 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: Re: Nitpicker's Guide to SWAT Kats Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On 2/9/96 at 9:00 PM, ARTHUR JOHN FREDA wrote: >Another nitpicker guide thing: When they are chsing the red lynx near the >end of that ep, when t-bone says: "Where'd he go?" his nose turns black. >There's also a bug in Cry Turmoil, I think it's around where T-Bone is >gonna kick Razor off the ship. Coloring errors aren't anything new for the series. In "Bride of the Pastmaster," for example, check out the scene just before Queen Callista sends T-Bone and Razor back to their own time. T-Bone's nose is black, while Razor's is brown And speaking of "Bride...", Callista says in her incantation to "send these Kats [T-Bone and Razor] back to modern times..." Wouldn't Megalith City be "modern" to Callista? Maybe an incantation like "send these Kats back to their own times" might have worked (and it would have been a perfect syllabic substitute, too). In other SK-related news, I received some email the other day from someone trying to locate the SNES game. Neither this person nor I have had any luck finding the game in the Toys R Us (or other electronics stores), tho I haven't really been out hunting for the game. Anyone know what's up with this? ============== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ============== Also: razor@netcom.com Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia razor@venom.st.hmc.edu From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 10 07:13:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id GAA13164 for kats-ll; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 06:03:33 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id GAA13123 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 06:03:27 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.55] (dyn1055.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.55]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA29014 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 18:04:46 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 18:01:24 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: SK MOV? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Andy... where are the SK movie? I haven't seen it on rat.org??? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 10 07:17:48 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id GAA13121 for kats-ll; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 06:03:22 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id GAA13112 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 06:03:17 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.55] (dyn1055.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.55]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA28999 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 18:04:35 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 18:01:13 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Kittens... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Ok, I just receive a calendar that contains pictures of kittens from my aunt (She is a cat lover too) and I'm wondering. How do the SwatKats look like when they just a little kitten? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 10 07:21:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id GAA13301 for kats-ll; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 06:03:41 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id GAA13204 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 06:03:35 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.55] (dyn1055.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.55]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA29022 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 18:04:52 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 18:01:30 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Nitpicker's Guide to SWAT Kats Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >A little while ago someone (forgot who, sorry!) said they should start >"The Nitpickers Guide to SWAT Kats." Well, here's something that >might go into that guide... > >Everyone in MegaKat city - Ann Gora, Mayor Manx, Commander and >Lieutenant Feral, Calico Briggs - wears footwear. Boots, high heels, >shoes, etc. Even Chance and Jake... They all are domestic kats. Even Ulysses and Felina, although that Felina look alike more of a house kat than a Feral kat. >except when they're the SWAT Kats, then they run around bear-foot, er, >pawed. Why is this? Br) I think that they became an alley kat when ever they became the SwatKats, and an alley kat is usualy doesn't wears any footwear (Have you ever see an alley cat wear shoes?), since that I assume that an alley kat much prefer to go bear-pawed than to wear shoes. >And what happens if T-Bone or Razor is ticklish? Well, does anybody here want to test that theory? :-) >August Paul Yang is off to find a very large feather... From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 10 07:31:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id GAA13210 for kats-ll; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 06:03:36 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id GAA13154 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 06:03:31 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.55] (dyn1055.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.55]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA29018 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 18:04:48 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 18:01:26 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Responsibilities and Magic. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>Could Chance change? Naaaaaaaahh .. . > >>Hey, if a kid is near him, I think that he will become more cautios >>on what he gonna do or say. > >Mabye, but ALL THE TIME? Well, just as long the kid is near him. He probaly back to his regular self when ever he is alone. >I don't think he would make a very responsible parent. People change when they have to take care of their young ones. >>>No offense, but I despise the word 'magician' and even 'magic.' > >>How about the word "Luck"? > >Luck has absolutely nothing to do with magic. Just curious here. :-) >>>They should be called "illusionists" or something instead. > >>How about calling them "Technomages"? > >Why would we do that? They don't use real magic so we couldn't >call them mages, They use technology to do some sort of magic. >and why does have the stuff they do have to do with >technology? Harry Houdini didn't have a computer. Most of the stuff >involves sliding shafts and hidden stuff. A technology is a degree of knowledge that a civilization has (Well, at least that is my definition of 'technology'.). So I guess sliding shafts and hidden stuff can be consider as technology too. >>>but being my fanfic does deal with a cartoon show that saws 'magic' >>>quite often, I'll use the word. > >>How about the terms "paranormal activities"? > >Then you're thinking X-files, or voodoo, or supernatural forces. >Though close by, not truly magic. Aren't voodoo can be consider as magic? >NO MORE SPOILERS! TO ANYONE! YOU'LL HAVE JUST HAVE TO >WAIT UNTIL IT COMES OUT (WHICH SHOULD BE VERY SOON). Okay. :-) Hope to read your stories soon. :-) > Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 10 09:03:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA20729 for kats-ll; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 08:39:32 -0500 Received: from [164.67.22.47] (ts35-2.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.47]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA20724 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 08:39:25 -0500 X-Sender: rat1@bort.mv.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 05:39:29 -0800 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: Re: Kittens... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On 2/10/96 at 6:01 PM, Edo Andromedo wrote: >Ok, I just receive a calendar that contains pictures of kittens from my >aunt (She is a cat lover too) and I'm wondering. How do the SwatKats look >like when they just a little kitten? Probably the exact same way they do now, only smaller. (Sorry, I just couldn't resist. ;-) But think about it: in spinoffs of cartoons where they've done "kiddie" versions of the original (i.e., "Tiny Toon Adventures," "A Pup Named Scooby Doo", etc.), the "kiddified" (miniaturized?) versions of the characters look exactly like their older counterparts, only smaller. It'd be interesting to see how both Chance and Jake did their headfur then, though. Any takers (among our resident arists, or "arteests") to sketch the duo? (I'm almost tempted to do it myself, but I don't draw. :-P) ============== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ============== Also: razor@netcom.com Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia razor@venom.st.hmc.edu From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 10 14:32:47 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA10936 for kats-ll; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 13:55:00 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA10923 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 13:54:55 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA20085 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 11:02:22 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 11:02:22 -0800 Message-Id: <199602101902.LAA20085@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Nitpicking the bare paws Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >At 07:41 AM 2/6/96 -0500, you wrote: >>Now riddle me this: why do they have pink triangles on their helmets? ;) > >Pink?? >Heh. Well, the _red_ triangles tell them which way to put their helmets on >of course! :) And of course, in something like "Mutation City", the triangle simply means "press here for nifty underwater illumination". Even dumb kats would have no trouble finding an "on" switch stuffed right in the middle of their foreheads! _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 10 14:41:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA10993 for kats-ll; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 13:55:36 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA10988 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 13:55:31 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA20124 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 11:02:38 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 11:02:38 -0800 Message-Id: <199602101902.LAA20124@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Cartoon Network Eps. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Also, besides the toonnet@aol.com address, is there anywhere else I can >>email a "Love the Kats- Please make more!" request where it might do some good? >> >Try Ted.Turner@Turner.??? So far, I have got no idea where else to try other >than Turner's Cruddy Network (TCN [Cartoon Network]) There's a couple, actually - "toonnet@aol.com" for "The Cartoon Network" and "tnt@turner.com" for Turner in general. H-B was going to set something up too, but nothing ever became of it, and they don't return my calls. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 10 14:48:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA10928 for kats-ll; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 13:54:57 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA10916 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 13:54:53 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA20089 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 11:02:26 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 11:02:26 -0800 Message-Id: <199602101902.LAA20089@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Razor's career Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Ryan Kelley wrote: >>>Makes me do some wondering why TCN would be allowed to use a "no longer >>>promoted" character by TPS.. At least the Kats are getting a little >>>promotion (even tho it's not very direct). >> >>Turner's a $@#^! That's why! > >Hmmm, five letters, could it be that Turner is a "Feral"? Turner owns Hanna-Barbera and TBS. Turner also owns TCN. Kats used to run on TBS and in syndication on those independent channels like WPIX-NY and KTZZ-Seattle. Why Tedco doesn't run the Kats on TBS as well as TCN is anyone's guess, but Kats is a rather fast horse in an otherwise lacklustre stable on TCN, which is why it's getting promoted. Please feel free to be confused. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 10 14:59:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA12373 for kats-ll; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 14:07:38 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA12368 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 14:07:34 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA20705 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 11:15:10 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 11:15:10 -0800 Message-Id: <199602101915.LAA20705@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: This was meant for list - don't ask me...I just work here Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >From: "Matthew O. Weber" >To: owner-kats >Subject: Re: Kittens... >Date: Sat, 10 Feb 96 12:57:00 PST >Encoding: 15 TEXT > > > >Dana wrote: >It'd be interesting to see how both Chance and Jake did their headfur then, >though. Any takers (among our resident arists, or "arteests") to sketch >the duo? (I'm almost tempted to do it myself, but I don't draw. :-P) > > >Hmm.. Interesting idea.. >I'll add that to my list of things I'm working on. (Now if I could just as >easily add free time to my schedule :) ) > >Matt Weber >mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us > > > _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 10 14:59:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA10948 for kats-ll; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 13:55:02 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA10934 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 13:54:59 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA20111 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 11:02:33 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 11:02:33 -0800 Message-Id: <199602101902.LAA20111@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Lost in Cyberspace Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >chance> Turner's Public Relations 2IC has been reading the katmail >chance> for the last two months >I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing. It's a good >thing if they see how many people are on the list and really enjoyed >the SWAT Kats (esp. if they were here for the toys thread). It's >a bad thing if they pick up on what kind of wackos we *really* are. >Br) I'm tempted to consider it a "good thing". Most people have a built in aversion to putting pen to paper and mailing their comments to Tedco, but don't seem to have the same inhibition when it comes to the electronic version. I hope it was educational for them, and gave 'em a chance to listen to people who aren't half as, er...."direct" as I was in snail-mail/telephone/newsgroup exchanges over the past year or so. They sure can't claim there's no interest in the program after spending six weeks up to their epaulettes in kat-mail. >chance> "just under 6K" >Allow me to apologize again for that post. It's how I usually do >things since I only have enough time to post once a week (now) and >I really don't want to repeat things which have already been said. > >August Paul Yang may have to change his posting style. Nah...I only referenced the "6K" bit to identify the message to which I was responding; not as some oblique comment concerning "post too long error". Besides, three months between posts tends to leave you a lot to say between breaths, huh? (I haven't forgotten about getting that H-B colour stuff sent to Matt and scanned for the site - I just haven't had a minute to think Kats lately.) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 10 15:20:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA14628 for kats-ll; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 14:53:15 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA14611 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 14:52:47 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA22640 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 12:00:21 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 12:00:21 -0800 Message-Id: <199602102000.MAA22640@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SK MIDI Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >SWAT Kats midi is done, but cheezier than the snes kats.wav at rat. >CHANCE!!!!! Hoyl! Enough with the thing of loud already! I need the sheet music to the kat themes and the correct >instruments! Can you get this from Lance Falk? Does anyone else know the >correct instruments and possible notes? The one I made is in F major. Hmm. Mark Lungo talked to John Zuker for his Kats article, so maybe he'd oblige. I'll ask the next time I talk to Mark. The Heavy Metal-style stuff in the Kats probably wouldn't translate well to any tinnified PC Sound Card that *I've* ever heard, but it's worth a shot. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 10 15:24:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA10972 for kats-ll; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 13:55:14 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA10960 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 13:55:09 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA20095 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 11:02:30 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 11:02:30 -0800 Message-Id: <199602101902.LAA20095@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Litterboxes and Kat showers Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Dana wrote: >Pastmaster" goes, my guess is that Kats must take regular showers, but will >resort to licking themselves for emergency grooming. ...don't we all? >One thing comes to mind though: house cats generally don't like water, >although some larger cats, like tigers, will readily swim in or soak in >water, either to cool off or to pursue prey. I get the feeling that Kats >don't mind water, either (i.e., Megakat State Beach, Anakatta Island, etc.) >Comments? Yep. That Sabre-tooth tiger thing in "The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice"... do you figure that was supposed to be simply another long-dead dinosaur from the Dark Ages, or perhaps a distant Razor-relative? _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 10 15:45:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA14856 for kats-ll; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 14:57:51 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA14800 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 14:56:44 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA22768 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 12:03:49 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 12:03:49 -0800 Message-Id: <199602102003.MAA22768@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SK MOV? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Andy... where are the SK movie? I haven't seen it on rat.org??? "kats@lists.mv.net"..."chance@unix.infoserve.net".....nope. I just don't see how the two could be confused! (evil grin). The SK.mov didn't decode properly (and a few of us tried), so we'll have to try for another copy. Stuff happens. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 10 15:50:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA13234 for kats-ll; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 14:44:15 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA13229 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 14:44:11 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA22374 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 11:51:50 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 11:51:50 -0800 Message-Id: <199602101951.LAA22374@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: How to draw Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Many of you have probably tried to draw T-Bone or any other SWAT Kat >character, and said, "I can't do this! It just doesn't look right!" Me sometimes - but absolutely everyone at Hanho Heung-Up! >Draw a circle. Just a normal circle of how big ya want his face. >Next, pretend it's a sphere. Draw a rounded line around the circle >vertically. Do the same for horizontal. Make shure the place where the >two lines cross is the middle of his nose. I can't explain much more in >text, so when I am able to make attachments, I'll make a pbrush pic of it. The model sheets for the Kat-guys that appeared in "Toon" are extremely helpful for the would-be katanimators among us. They show the construction lines and little "rules" that help prevent all that "I can't do this!" screaming that usually accompanies many scrunched up balls of paper. I draw 'em at work - where I have copies of Butch Hartman's katmodel sheets up on the wall! (some days I even get work done too....) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 10 15:50:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA12576 for kats-ll; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 14:11:48 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA12570 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 14:11:41 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA20939 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 11:19:10 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 11:19:10 -0800 Message-Id: <199602101919.LAA20939@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: SNES game (was: Nitpicker's Guide to SWAT Kats) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Matt's stuff is somehow winding up in my admin mailbox, hence all the forwards. I'll sort it out. >From: "Matthew O. Weber" >To: owner-kats >Subject: SNES game (was: Nitpicker's Guide to SWAT Kats) >Date: Sat, 10 Feb 96 13:00:00 PST >Encoding: 14 TEXT > > >Dana wrote: >In other SK-related news, I received some email the other day from someone >trying to locate the SNES game. Neither this person nor I have had any >luck finding the game in the Toys R Us (or other electronics stores), tho I >haven't really been out hunting for the game. Anyone know what's up with >this? > >I haven't come across it either, but it's been a while since I've been to >FunCoLand. They had it listed in the paper & I would assume they carry it >or can get it. I'll let you know if they have it when I check. > >Matt Weber >mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us > > _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 10 16:00:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA15963 for kats-ll; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 15:02:49 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA15947 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 15:02:44 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA22974 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 12:10:17 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 12:10:17 -0800 Message-Id: <199602102010.MAA22974@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Kittens... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Ok, I just receive a calendar that contains pictures of kittens from my >aunt (She is a cat lover too) and I'm wondering. How do the SwatKats look >like when they just a little kitten? Kinda cute probably - but can you imagine Feral as a kitten? *Shudder* It's rather odd that we don't see a kid-kat younger than about five - even in the "Razor's Edge" hospital set where you'd figure the urge to draw a mewling kat-infant would be irresistible. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 10 16:04:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA14571 for kats-ll; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 14:51:27 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA14565 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 14:51:24 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA22096 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 11:42:40 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 11:42:40 -0800 Message-Id: <199602101942.LAA22096@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Remember, be kind... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Someone asked a few posts ago whether there was an e-mail address that people could use to tell the Turner folks "great show - make more....". Well, for the next little while at least - that address is this Katslist. I don't know whether they're reading for entertainment value or market research - they'll get plenty of both - but if any of you wanted the opportunity to explain why you'll be watching Kats reruns in the fall as opposed to "Cave Kids" first-runs, *take* the opportunity now. I'm sure certain individuals will download the extant posts for circulation in Atlanta; it sounds as though it fits the job description. Other news on the H-B front. Kats writer Lance Falk is back with Davis Doi to work on the resuscitated "Jonny" revival (now that Lawrence and Takashi got signed over at Mouseco), so if the Ted wants to do some more Katseps, he doesn't have far to go for a crew. Hanna-Barbera will likely have a few idle hands now that Mike Ovitz' Mouseyfied ABC no longer has room for H-B's "Dumb and Dumber", and maybe someone at Turner will wake up and realize that what they *had* with "SwatKats" is better than anything announced at NATPE for the fall - broadcast networks OR cable. I'm sure its not lost on the viewers. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 10 19:32:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA02054 for kats-ll; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 19:21:26 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA02048 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 19:21:23 -0500 Received: from net-1-186.austin.eden.com (net-1-186.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.186]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.3.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id SAA10773 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 18:21:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 18:21:13 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199602110021.SAA10773@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Kittens... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Ok, I just receive a calendar that contains pictures of kittens from my >>aunt (She is a cat lover too) and I'm wondering. How do the SwatKats look >>like when they just a little kitten? > >Kinda cute probably - but can you imagine Feral as a kitten? *Shudder* >It's rather odd that we don't see a kid-kat younger than about five - even >in the "Razor's Edge" hospital set where you'd figure the urge to draw a >mewling kat-infant would be irresistible. Five.....*shudder* I just don't like little kids between three and six. They *scare* me!!! But, in "The Red Lynx," Manx was outside eating a hot dog(!) and he said to one of the ladies walking by "cute baby"..... (this happens right before the Red Lynx tries to kill him again in the Blue Manx.) (This doesn't have a whole lot to do with the list, but read it anyway! Please!) | | \ | / Okay, first vampires, now rabbits. Somebody help me, I'm reading things that are distracting me from the Kats! (Namely _Watership Down_ & _The Vampire Chronicles_) help me please somebody? Anybody? Please?? =| =| Terra Chang, Swat Kats fan, writer, nice person (really, I am!) totally crazy.* *Help me somebody, before I strike again, I am ****PYSCHO****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 11 05:15:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id EAA12220 for kats-ll; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 04:47:46 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id EAA12163 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 04:47:41 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.91] (dyn1091.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.91]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA23736 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 16:48:58 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 16:45:37 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Fanfic story. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>You mean my Tribute to Ted Turner didn't make it? >> >>Well, "A Tribute to Ted Turner" has become one with the "Dark Ages". > >Wha? What?? WHAT??? Who'se hairbrained idea was that? They should have been >seperate? Was this just a computer error or am I going into my crazier state >of mind? The two has become one file. I think that the "Dark Ages" has just assimilated "A Tribute to Ted Turner". >>I think that most of us in this list want to create a fanfic story, but >>they got some obstacle that they must overcome to. And I think that once >>the obstacle has gone, I'm sure that the fanfic directory will be fill with >>lots of stories. > >Yeah, I got what I want, now I get what I want and what I want is a fight! A fight??? >It's SWAT Kats alive again, or me dead, still trying in my afterlife! SWAT Kats never die. >>I hope that my fanfics will be finish soon. > >You're not the only one who's hoping, here! Hmmm, "Hope"... That is an interesting concept for a fanfic story. >>Hmmm, "Dreams".... Does anybody here want to make a fanfic story when the >>SwatKats is having a strange dream sequence? > >I do! No, wait! I'm writing around four already! >and I'm going to start on another! Anyone up to this idea? How about making a "Twilight Zone" kind of dream? >Ryan "Jake "B-ko Daitokuji" Shard" Kelley >Dear Lord, help me. I'm WAKO! >SWAT Kats Extremist From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 11 20:06:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA00747 for kats-ll; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 19:07:04 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA00741 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 19:07:01 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.200] (dyn1200.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.200]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA10144 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 07:08:21 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 07:05:00 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Colour. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Why do they have pink triangles on their head? > Uhh. sorry. They're red. Does the TurboKat have pink on it too? Turbokat >has no pink. just red No matter, cats are colour blind anyway, don't know about kats though. >A.J. Freda From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 11 20:15:45 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA00742 for kats-ll; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 19:07:02 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA00735 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 19:06:59 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.200] (dyn1200.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.200]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA10130 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 07:08:11 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 07:04:56 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Pink triangles Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Now riddle me this: why do they have pink triangles on their helmets? ;) In "Mutation City" it was used as a flashlight. But if I view it from a philosophical point of view, I guess that it's symboling a cat (Or kats.) nose, since that cats (Or kats.) seem to have a nose that look like a triangle. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 11 22:07:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA08662 for kats-ll; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 21:31:43 -0500 Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA08657 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 21:31:40 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com (mailout2.prodigy.com [199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA48084 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 21:29:50 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 21:28:20 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.00934067.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Season 2--re-evaluation Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I while ago I made a comment that second season sucked, and I got spammed for it a bit. So, as soon as I got the time, I decided to go back and re-evaluate the season in a whole. My last impressions weren't too good--the last I had seen of the series where the episodes where Razor (my favorite character, surprise surprise) was drawn as a box. Even David Doi, in my phone conversation with him, said those episodes simply weren't done well. So the season basically left a bad taste in my mouth. Also, seaQuest also sucked in its second season and I was kind of used to that first-season-was-cool-second-season-had- all- these-bad-scripts thing. Sorry. I don't have time to go through ALL the episodes ONE by ONE, so here are my general comments: ANIMATION: This season featured a good range of animation. The 1st season mainly had Mook for three or four episodes, then some other guy doing the rest where the kats would get sort of bubbly every one in a while. Season 2 featured 2 1/2 Mooks, but also some VERY good usage of shading and carefully done artwork in Deadly Pyramid. I'm no fan of dark shading, but it was used VERY professionally and it made this episode a pleasure to watch. Cry Turmoil also had a hint of this technic (sp?). Other episodes, like Mutation City, had HORRIBLE animation, especially with T-B and Razor. Watch that scene in the obstacle course in Mutation City--even Davis admitted that was BAD. I have never been able to watch that scene more than once in a sitting. In Razor's Edge we so ANOTHER style, one where their mouths seemed kinda small and didn't open much in a few scenes (Jake's ears also got sort of large). PLOTS: Again, a good range--this time similar to 1st season. We had TERRIFIC stuff like Razor's Edge (MY favorite of the season) and Cry Turmoil, which I rate up with Metal Urgency and Katastrophe. Origin of Dr. Viper was OK, too, it was good for fanfics, but I suppose it could have been done better had it been given more time. On the other hand, Volcanus Eruptus and Unplugged, basically sucked--nothing but fight scenes. Mutation City was interesting, but again the animation was so unbearable I can't watch it that often. We also had that mining plot, which was unfortunately a repeat of that cicadas episode. CHARACTERS: Felina Feral was the greatest thing to happen in season 2. Her character was awesome, getting away from that damsel-in-distress stuff we saw so much off in season 1. Also, we saw some great stuff among female clothing-- both Cally and Abi had episodes where they weren't wearing slim skirts and business outfits. Cally had her own little car stunt in Mutation City, and Abi was brave enough in Deadly Pyramid. Oh yeah, and even Anne Gora got into pants. As for males, we saw some GREAT stuff in Razor's Edge with Razor and T-Bone in Cry Turmoil. Feral--well, I suppose he'll always be Feral, and Manx'll always be Manx. I don't have any problem with that. If I think of anything more to say I'll send out another note. BTW, my fanfic Children of the Stone, (208 KB, BEAT THAT), it finished, but I'm having problems uploading through the FTP sight. I need B-KO to get back to me on that, please. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 11 23:04:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA14543 for kats-ll; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 22:53:47 -0500 Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA14536 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 22:53:41 -0500 Received: from tole-cs-5.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-5.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.105]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA18166 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 22:47:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 22:47:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199602120347.WAA18166@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Red Triangles... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net How about this: Notice how the enforcer vehicles have a MegaKat herald on them that's a triangle with something on top? Using the triangle design on the SwatKat uniforms might just create a momentary hesitation in the mind of an enforcer who might fire on them. Kind of a "Hey- we're good guys". Sometimes a fraction of a second can help. Just a thought... --------------------- Paul Kemner | "Many people appear to imagine that they cannot Toledo, Ohio | afford to have artistic surroundings, whereas pkemner@bright.net | the wonder is that they can afford so much --------------------- expensive ugliness." M. H. Baillie Scott From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 11 23:37:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA14794 for kats-ll; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 22:59:11 -0500 Received: from thymaster.interaccess.com (root@thymaster.interaccess.com [198.80.0.36]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA14787 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 22:59:09 -0500 Received: from mcshade.interacces.com (d130.loop.interaccess.com [206.183.68.130]) by thymaster.interaccess.com (8.7.2/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA23344 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 21:58:37 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199602120358.VAA23344@thymaster.interaccess.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Matthew Milam" To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 22:00:30 +0000 Subject: Re: Season 2--re-evaluation Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net How did you know Davis Doi??? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 12 07:31:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id GAA16758 for kats-ll; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 06:09:21 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id GAA16749 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 06:09:16 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.196] (dyn1196.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.196]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA05757 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 18:10:27 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 18:07:09 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: To Feral or not to Feral, that is the question. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>B-ko Daitokuji wrote: >>>Turner's a $@#^! That's why! >> >>Hmmm, five letters, could it be that Turner is a "Feral"? > >Insult to Feral! Come on, Feral's not that bad! Well, I mean the cat type, and not Commander Feral's last name. What I mean is, could it be that Turner is an alley cat? >Look Ted is self-centered. I was watching Turner's Barly Sane (TBS), and >what did I see, there was it's slogan "Wake up to TBS!" and there was Ted's >coffe mug, with his name on it. I ask you, what kind of self important idiot >would put valuable time into a half second on his coffee mug? I know the answer. >And another thing, the movie that followed was edited for time. Why >would anyone want to do that, so we can get another glimpse at his coffee >mug, or his sickish face (it is an ugly site! I've seen the thing on TV!)? I know the answer for this one too. >I ask you, go nice on Feral. Well, which Feral do you want me to be nice to? Of course I be nice to all Feral cats and kats, just as long that they doesn't bug me. >Out of all the SWAT Kat characters, I empithasize >with him the most and sometimes, I find I act just like him (weird!)! Don't >ask me why, because I don't know!! Well, out of all the SWAT Kats characters, I think that the character that I can relate to myself is probaly Steel (Or is it Steele?), since that I act (almost) just like him, and when chance (Andy Hill) told me that Steel is the sorta guy that has no friends, I became more certain that there is some connection between me and Steel. >Ryan "Jake "B-ko Daitokuji" Shard" Kelley >Dear Lord, help me. I'm WAKO! >SWAT Kats Extremist From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 12 10:25:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA27742 for kats-ll; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 09:16:45 -0500 Received: from gxl.woodtech.com (root@gxl.woodtech.com [204.248.87.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA27728 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 09:16:42 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (dialup15.woodtech.com [204.248.87.115]) by gxl.woodtech.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA01143 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 08:17:55 -0600 Message-ID: <311F6B0B.48FE@woodtech.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 08:30:03 -0800 From: "Clell A. Harmon" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Season 2--re-evaluation References: <096.00934067.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net DJ CLAWSON wrote: > >Even David Doi, in my phone conversation with him, said those > episodes simply weren't done well. So the season basically left a > bad taste in my mouth. Also, seaQuest also sucked in its second > season Actually DJ, Seaquest sucked in it's first season. Bad science, bad acting, horribly bad submarining. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 12 11:20:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA02919 for kats-ll; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 10:19:46 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA02914 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 10:19:44 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA07840 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 07:28:30 -0800 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 07:28:30 -0800 Message-Id: <199602121528.HAA07840@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SK MIDI (via Chance's Pony Express again...) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >From: "Matthew O. Weber" >To: owner-kats >Subject: Re: SK MIDI >Date: Sat, 10 Feb 96 16:21:00 PST >Encoding: 14 TEXT > > >Andy wrote: > I'll ask the next time I talk to Mark. The Heavy Metal-style stuff in > the Kats probably wouldn't translate well to any tinnified PC Sound Card >that > *I've* ever heard, but it's worth a shot. > >Yes, MIDI is probably not the best way to handle a guitar riff. Have you >ever considered working with a MOD editor. The quality is usually _much_ >better since you use actual digitized sounds rather than computer >representations. > >Matt Weber >mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us > > _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 12 12:03:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA03712 for kats-ll; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 10:41:01 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA03707 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 10:40:40 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA08664 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 07:49:28 -0800 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 07:49:28 -0800 Message-Id: <199602121549.HAA08664@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Common sense, guys.... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >How did you know Davis Doi??? Look, this is strictly from an administrative point of view, but this stuff has to stop right now. 1) We have no idea what this is in reference to because there isn't any quoted material, and: 2) It's a direct question to another list-member which belongs in e-mail. The respondent may wish to share the info with the list in addition to a direct reply, but in any event the question should've travelled the direct path and not wound up in 60-plus mailboxes. 3) Any new member subscribing to the list and seeing "How did you know Davis Doi?" as the first post will likely reconsider his/her decision to join in the first place. No one take any of this personally - it's Monday, and I'm all out of Meow-mix. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 12 12:30:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA07213 for kats-ll; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 11:12:55 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA07205 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 11:12:50 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA10156 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 08:21:38 -0800 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 08:21:38 -0800 Message-Id: <199602121621.IAA10156@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: To Feral or not to Feral, that is the question. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>B-ko Daitokuji wrote: >>>>Turner's a $@#^! That's why! >>> >>>Hmmm, five letters, could it be that Turner is a "Feral"? >> >>Insult to Feral! Come on, Feral's not that bad! > >Well, I mean the cat type, and not Commander Feral's last name. What I mean >is, could it be that Turner is an alley cat? Could be. Lessee..."Alley Cat": Crawls through age-old trashcans in dank, dirty back-alleys in search of sustenance. Becomes unreasonably nasty and defensive when challenged, generally lashing out violently and haphazardly in all directions in the vain hope of getting a hit. "Turner": Crawls through age-old trashcans in dank, dirty H-B archives in search of sustenance. Becomes unreasonably nasty and defensive when challenged. Programs networks by lashing out violently and haphazardly in all directions in the vain hope of getting a hit. Yep. Seems as though there's one or two similarities. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 12 12:39:50 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA06791 for kats-ll; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 11:05:19 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA06781 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 11:05:16 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA10003 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 08:14:04 -0800 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 08:14:04 -0800 Message-Id: <199602121614.IAA10003@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: To Feral or not to Feral, that is the question. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >Well, out of all the SWAT Kats characters, I think that the character that >I can relate to myself is probaly Steel (Or is it Steele?), since that I >act (almost) just like him, and when chance (Andy Hill) told me that Steel >is the sorta guy that has no friends, I became more certain that there is >some connection between me and Steel. That's one thing I've noticed about any animated effort that I watch repeatedly: you're able to kind of "get into the character's head" a bit and understand what makes him tick, and even predict how the character would react to a situation in advance of the writers. That's also what I find defines the better scripts for things like the 'Kats as well. The writers take the characters and build the stories around *them*, as opposed to some of the competition who come up with a standard type of ac/adv story framework and attempt to somehow deform the characters in order to "fit". The last season of TMNT springs to mind. Steel's cool because I think there's so much more to the character than the 2D "asshole" image projected in WODK, and at the risk of lapsing into kidspeak - "they should have used him more". In fact, all the "baddies" in the kat-toon wind up being semi-sympathetic because you look at the actions of the Pastmaster, the Metallikats, or even Steel, and ask yourself *why* they do what they do rather than accepting them as the obligatory black-hats to the Kat-guys white. This kind of stuff was infectious to the viewers and writing staffers alike, but seems valueless to an outfit like Tedco who seek to define such things as a function of the "subtotal" key on Atlanta's cash-register. That can work too - it just helps if you plug it in. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 12 13:37:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA12852 for kats-ll; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 12:22:26 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA12847 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 12:22:21 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA10420 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 08:33:27 -0800 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 08:33:27 -0800 Message-Id: <199602121633.IAA10420@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Deep-six the off-top replies please... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >DJ CLAWSON wrote: >> >>Even David Doi, in my phone conversation with him, said those >> episodes simply weren't done well. So the season basically left a >> bad taste in my mouth. Also, seaQuest also sucked in its second >> season > > Actually DJ, Seaquest sucked in it's first season. Bad science, >bad acting, horribly bad submarining. C'mon guys, could we please watch replies like this? If it ain't on-topic, please go to e-mail. The original post is a comparison of the two shows - fine- but the reply kinda belongs on a SeaQuest list, no? 'Nuff said. Oh yeah, went through a Canadian Wal-Mart yesterday and found that they'd stocked the Kat-vids, but despite Christian Tremblay's info to the contrary, there wasn't a single kat-toy to be found. And naturally, after looking everywhere else for "Strike of Dark Kat" and ending up getting the thing from the 'States - guess what shows up at Wal-Mart? Grrrrrrrrrrr....... _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 12 17:01:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA01521 for kats-ll; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 16:20:37 -0500 Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA01516 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 16:20:35 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com (mailout2.prodigy.com [199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA20720 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 16:05:12 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 16:03:52 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.00993349.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Season 2--re-evaluation Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >How did you know Davis Doi??? Well, I sent a letter over to Hanna-Barbera back in season 1 and got a form letter back, so I sent a pissed-off letter and got ANOTHER form letter, but also a Turbokat keychain that makes engine noises. (no complaints). So I sent a third, a very polite one with a thank you note, and I mentioned I was the President of the SKC on Prodigy. This somehow got into the hands of Davis Doi, who sent my his work phone number and said to call. Yes, I still have the phone number, and chance says it should still work, so if I get piles of fanfic questions I might call him up again someday. No, I don't know him personally. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 12 18:10:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA06059 for kats-ll; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 17:17:06 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA06054 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 17:17:01 -0500 Received: from net-1-204.austin.eden.com (net-1-204.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.204]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.3.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA11005 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 16:16:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 16:16:52 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199602122216.QAA11005@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: To Feral or not to Feral, that is the question. X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>B-ko Daitokuji wrote: >>>>Turner's a $@#^! That's why! >>> >>>Hmmm, five letters, could it be that Turner is a "Feral"? >> >>Insult to Feral! Come on, Feral's not that bad! > >Well, I mean the cat type, and not Commander Feral's last name. What I mean >is, could it be that Turner is an alley cat? > >>Look Ted is self-centered. I was watching Turner's Barly Sane (TBS), and >>what did I see, there was it's slogan "Wake up to TBS!" and there was Ted's >>coffe mug, with his name on it. I ask you, what kind of self important idiot >>would put valuable time into a half second on his coffee mug? > >I know the answer. > >>And another thing, the movie that followed was edited for time. Why >>would anyone want to do that, so we can get another glimpse at his coffee >>mug, or his sickish face (it is an ugly site! I've seen the thing on TV!)? > >I know the answer for this one too. > >>I ask you, go nice on Feral. > >Well, which Feral do you want me to be nice to? Of course I be nice to all >Feral cats and kats, just as long that they doesn't bug me. >>Out of all the SWAT Kat characters, I empithasize >>with him the most and sometimes, I find I act just like him (weird!)! Don't >>ask me why, because I don't know!! > >Well, out of all the SWAT Kats characters, I think that the character that >I can relate to myself is probaly Steel (Or is it Steele?), since that I >act (almost) just like him, and when chance (Andy Hill) told me that Steel >is the sorta guy that has no friends, I became more certain that there is >some connection between me and Steel. I know this reply is kinda long, and I think I already said this, but I agree with Courtney: "Feral sucks most of the time, but he's good for his character." Terra Chang, Buncha stuff fan, writer, nice person (really, I am!) totally crazy.* *Help me somebody, before I strike again, I am ****PYSCHO****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 12 19:42:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA15019 for kats-ll; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:04:32 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us ([199.176.232.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA14999 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:04:04 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA07195; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:07:12 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:07:11 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: SK MOV? In-Reply-To: <199602102003.MAA22768@unix.infoserve.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I think if you have the QuickTime version 2.0.4.5 or something or other, you can play mac movies on an IBM with out having to decode or reformat or whatever. A.J. Freda You want SWAT Kats sound clips, I'll make em! ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us Soon coming to rat.org: 16bit,44.1Khz, stereo "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kat WAV files!!!! Ranging from 4-10Mb! SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 12 20:03:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA15656 for kats-ll; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:21:40 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us ([199.176.232.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA15651 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:21:37 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA13352; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:25:23 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:25:22 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: SK MIDI (via Chance's Pony Express again...) In-Reply-To: <199602121528.HAA07840@unix.infoserve.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Goodie! Where can I find a MOD editor? I know very little about mods, I don't even have anything to play them! Maybe an ADPCM WAV file or VOC file should be better? But some people can't play adpcm and vocs. The MIDI program I have does have guitar, along with a fret noise too. Electric guitar, Banjo, any other guitar imaginable....blah blah blah... A.J. Freda You want SWAT Kats sound clips, I'll make em! ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us Soon coming to rat.org: 16bit,44.1Khz, stereo "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kat WAV files!!!! Ranging from 4-10Mb! SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 12 20:20:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA15797 for kats-ll; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:26:00 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us ([199.176.232.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA15776 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:25:46 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA08508; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:10:57 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:10:56 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: I GOT MY PRIZE!!!! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Okay, so I'm replying to my past note. I found out what I have here with the animation cell I recieved from the Tremblays: Animator: Mook Co. Ltd. (Or whatever) Episode: "Metal Urgency" Spot: Near the beginning after razor fires a scrambler missile and they both say "yes!" and do a thumbs up HEY EVERYONE ELSE????!!!! WHAT DID YOU GET!!!!!???!!! WE'D LIKE TO KNOW!!!??? If you don't know what I'm talking about, I'm talking about the contest that C. Tremblay was holding in December. A.J. Freda You want SWAT Kats sound clips, I'll make em! ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us Soon coming to rat.org: 16bit,44.1Khz, stereo "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kat WAV files!!!! Ranging from 4-10Mb! SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 12 22:43:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA29027 for kats-ll; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:18:03 -0500 Received: from occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net (occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net [204.71.75.187]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA29022 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:18:00 -0500 Received: from s09-pm01.occ-uky.campus.mci.net (s09-pm01.occ-uky.campus.mci.net [205.219.158.38]) by occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA20844 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 21:17:49 -0600 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 21:17:49 -0600 Message-Id: <199602130317.VAA20844@occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net> X-Sender: mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: David Minter Subject: A SWAT Kats' month? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I was wondering if as a fan body, do we have a month, i.e. a SWAT Kats' month? If not, I propose September since it is National Cat Health Month. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 12 23:06:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA28551 for kats-ll; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:04:17 -0500 Received: from [164.67.20.146] (ts20-5.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.20.146]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA28540 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:04:10 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:04:10 -0500 X-Sender: rat1@bort.mv.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: IMPORTANT -- PLEASE READ!!! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Okay, now that I have your attention (in particular, regular posters SHOULD be reading this carefully)... Andy suggested that I post the following to the list. These are a few guidelines that I think should be followed; the latest revision can be accessed at "http://rat.org/razor/guidelines.txt". If you have any questions on this post, be *sure* you reply to me in email. Do NOT post to the list (watch your headers before you send the reply out so your messages don't get posted). Here we go... Guidelines for posting to the SWAT Kats mailing list ---------------------------------------------------- The following are general guidelines for all posts to the SWAT Kats mailing list. Please note that these are ONLY guidelines and NOT rules (with the possible exception of #1), but please adhere to them as much as possible to get the most out of your list subscription. 1. Flaming and general rabblerousing is not allowed. Offenders will be warned and repeat offenders will be dropped from the list. 2. The list is intended for discussion about the SWAT Kats and related material. Keep your posts on-topic as much as possible. 3. If you reply to a post without quoting, you should definitely summarize the post you're replying to. Failure to do so can easily generate confusion. 4. All posts to the list contain a "Reply-To:" header redirected to the list, regardless of whoever posted. If you want to reply personally to any listmail, you might want to double-check that your mail isn't being routed to the list, lest you embarrass yourself and/or invoke the wrath of other list members. 5. Administrative questions ("I haven't been receiving listmail"; "how do I upload a file to the FTP site?"; etc.) should be directed to the list's administration (owner-kats@bort.mv.net), NOT to the list itself. 6. Quoted text and .signature files should be kept to a minimum. A rule of thumb that might help is to quote no more lines of text than what you write as original text. Signature files should not be more than 4 lines long. 7. The FAQ, or Frequently Asked Questions, file is updated periodically and posted to the list as well as uploaded to rat.org. If you have a specific question about the FAQ, please email me at 'razor@rat.org' - don't post. -- Last updated: 8 February 1996 by razor@rat.org ============== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ============== Also: razor@netcom.com Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia razor@venom.st.hmc.edu From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 13 01:15:50 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA18614 for kats-ll; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 00:53:06 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA18595 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 00:52:47 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d151.infoserve.net [199.175.157.151]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA28859 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:01:57 -0800 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:01:57 -0800 Message-Id: <199602130601.WAA28859@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: A SWAT Kats' month? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > > I was wondering if as a fan body, do we have a month, i.e. a SWAT Kats' >month? If not, I propose September since it is National Cat Health Month. Hey, it's also fall series debut month - perhaps a good omen? I'd tend to vote for "July" myself, partly because of the SwatKats calendar eternally transfixed on Miss July, and partly because the TCN marathon "SwatKats Month" was also July. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 13 01:34:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA18603 for kats-ll; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 00:52:58 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA18598 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 00:52:51 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d151.infoserve.net [199.175.157.151]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA28862 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:02:00 -0800 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:02:00 -0800 Message-Id: <199602130602.WAA28862@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Season 2--re-evaluation Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Someone with impressive connections wrote: >and I mentioned I was the President of the SKC on Prodigy. This >somehow got into the hands of Davis Doi, who sent my his work phone >number and said to call. Yes, I still have the phone number, and >chance says it should still work, so if I get piles of fanfic questions I >might call him up again someday. No, I don't know him personally. Just don't get transferred to Mark Hughes by mistake, or you'll wind up on the "Return Message" pad as "another one of those SwatKat pests". Fan-relations at their finest. Davis is a busy dude with "Jonny" now, and as another of the ex-Kats staffers recently told me in response to a raft of questions I'd sent over - "SwatKats" was basically two/three years ago in the memories of these folks, and "I don't know how much I remember". My favourite response from one of the production staffers still employed by Tedco goes something like this (in response to my question: "What do you personally feel about the cancellation?") "Well...how can I put this...we all have to do what we're told, but some shows should've gone on longer than they did...." My second favourite comes from another staffer, also still employed, in response to my "did you personally like the program compared to, say, the WPT's?": "Yeah, I don't know why we cancelled 'SwatKats', it was my favourite show. The WPT's? Oh yeah, they all suck..." That was about a year and a couple of witch-hunts ago. Did you know a bunch of these folks fought for the show after TPS ordered it halted? Guess a sentence to animation's equivalent of the Eastern Front on "Dumb and Dumber" was their reward for boat-rocking. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 13 01:41:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA18620 for kats-ll; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 00:53:11 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA18604 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 00:52:59 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d151.infoserve.net [199.175.157.151]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA28854 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:01:53 -0800 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:01:53 -0800 Message-Id: <199602130601.WAA28854@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SK MIDI (via Chance's Pony Express again...) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Goodie! Where can I find a MOD editor? I know very little about mods, I >don't even have anything to play them! Maybe an ADPCM WAV file or VOC >file should be better? But some people can't play adpcm and vocs. The >MIDI program I have does have guitar, along with a fret noise too. >Electric guitar, Banjo, any other guitar imaginable....blah blah blah... Grrrrrrrr.....(fur stands up on end) If you didn't know this was a SwatKats list, could you determine it from anything contained within this post? No...not even after an investigation worthy of Columbo. Please quote at least the portion of the original post that this is relevant to...I can't afford the crystal ball on what I earn. (Stay tuned for the World Premiere of The List Posting Guidelines, brought to you by your friendly neighbourhood Razor-cat cunningly disguised as Miss Manners. ) Oh yeah, in answer to A.J's earlier post on "what'd everyone else get?" in comparison to his cel (congrats, BTW - that's one of the promo shots used for the TBS bumpers); no one else among the winners is a member of the list. I *think* Christian said everyone would wind up with a cel, but I believe there was very much an "A", "B" and "C" ranking to the things, and A.J. wound up with "A". WRT commercial releases of the cels through H-B and independent outfits; it looks as though it won't happen anytime soon because Turner isn't convinced there's enough of a demand. They might be right, as aside from some recent Warners efforts and a handful of others, the market for animation cels has been traditionally geared towards features or "classic" toon offerings like "The Flintstones". Still, H-B would be missing the boat if they didn't at least make a few extant examples available through the same in-house Art Division currently hawking those "Flintstones" limited edition sericels. I'd certainly buy one if I didn't have to mortgage the dog. ("Limited Edition": Limited to how many you could run off before the office Xerox ran out of toner....) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 13 10:43:25 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA21536 for kats-ll; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 10:01:50 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA21531 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 10:01:46 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d145.infoserve.net [199.175.157.145]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA16151 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 07:11:10 -0800 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 07:11:10 -0800 Message-Id: <199602131511.HAA16151@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: You've gotta use the address you're subbed with, guys! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 08:33:49 -0500 >From: mbotwin@spaceghost.ny.psca.com (Mitch Botwin) >Message-Id: <9602131333.AA12758@ny.psca.com> >To: kats@bort.mv.net >Subject: Re: A SWAT Kats' month? >SWAT Kats' month should be like children's day and occur every month. We should celebrate the Kats as often as we can. >Mitch Botwin >------------------- >Paradigm >(212) 850-8129 >Beeper 917-762-5506 >mbotwin@ny.psca.com >------------------- _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 13 12:42:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA27016 for kats-ll; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 11:36:17 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA27011 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 11:36:14 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d145.infoserve.net [199.175.157.145]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA20678 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 08:45:33 -0800 Message-Id: <199602131645.IAA20678@unix.infoserve.net> From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (Andy Hill) To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Power Puff Girls! Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 16:34:56 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net matt_w@mci.newscorp.com (Matt Weber) wrote: >Yeah, leave it to Ted & TPS to can the good stuff before anyone even >realizes it's out there! Kats fans have been crying of the injustice >committed against SWAT Kats for a long time. No one's listened -- >yet! Disney and Warners have used the commentary appearing on Internet as a kind of real-time barometer measuring fan-reaction to certain shows, decisions, new directions and so forth. In fact, a number of fairly major policy decisions can be traced back to net roots - sometimes flying in the face of highly paid contradictory information from Nielsen. None of those outfits have looked back since. Though alt.tv.swatkats is usually fairly dead, it's mainly because the kats mailing-list is "home" to over 70 katfans who don't have time for both. I think the kat-list is at least in the top-ten of fan-type lists for membership, and suspect it even places in the top three somewhere behind a couple of DA lists. 70 netfans indicates an _awful_ lot of "real" fans that the Nielsen's don't always catch, and both Disney and Warner's seem to have done the math. I guess things move a bit more slowly south of the Mason-Dixon line. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 13 18:02:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA24113 for kats-ll; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 17:15:50 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.232.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA24108 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 17:15:46 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA10475; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 17:20:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 17:20:40 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: A SWAT Kats' month? In-Reply-To: <199602130601.WAA28859@unix.infoserve.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I vote for July too, cause then we're all out of school, and we can do SK activities all day, and lots of free time on our hands. A.J. Freda You want SWAT Kats sound clips, I'll make em! ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us Soon coming to rat.org: 16bit,44.1Khz, stereo "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kat WAV files!!!! Ranging from 4-10Mb! SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 13 18:20:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA24364 for kats-ll; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 17:22:11 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.232.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA24359 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 17:22:08 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA12479; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 17:27:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 17:27:00 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Power Puff Girls! In-Reply-To: <199602131645.IAA20678@unix.infoserve.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Tue, 13 Feb 1996, Andy Hill wrote: > matt_w@mci.newscorp.com (Matt Weber) wrote: > Though alt.tv.swatkats is usually fairly dead, it's mainly because the kats > mailing-list is "home" to over 70 katfans who don't have time for both. > I think the kat-list is at least in the top-ten of fan-type lists for > membership, and suspect it even places in the top three somewhere behind > a couple of DA lists. 70 netfans indicates an _awful_ lot of "real" fans > that the Nielsen's don't always catch, and both Disney and Warner's > seem to have done the math. I guess things move a bit more slowly south > of the Mason-Dixon line. He he he! If I had access to that newsgroup, you'd see post-stravaganza! A.J. Freda You want SWAT Kats sound clips, I'll make em! ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us Soon coming to rat.org: 16bit,44.1Khz, stereo "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kat WAV files!!!! Ranging from 4-10Mb! SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 13 19:53:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA03578 for kats-ll; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 19:18:09 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA03573 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 19:18:05 -0500 Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.3/merit-2.0) with SMTP id TAA24766 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 19:17:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa01205; 13 Feb 96 19:19 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <312153FA@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Tue, 13 Feb 96 19:16:10 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: Kats list Subject: RE: Season 2--re-evaluation Date: Tue, 13 Feb 96 17:40:00 PST Message-ID: <312153FA@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 19 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >ANIMATION: >Cry Turmoil also had a hint of this technic (sp?). Other >episodes, like Mutation City, had HORRIBLE animation, >especially with T-B and Razor. >Watch that scene in the obstacle course in Mutation City I think what's happened is that Mook's anime style has "leaked" into the animation and over-rode the style sheets. IMO, I like the action & story behind that scene and the animation isn't really _that_ bad -- just a little different. I think my favorite style is that from "Katastrophe" - it's probably my favorite story too. -Matt mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 13 20:17:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA03568 for kats-ll; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 19:18:02 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA03558 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 19:17:58 -0500 Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.3/merit-2.0) with SMTP id TAA24760 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 19:17:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa01201; 13 Feb 96 19:19 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <312153F6@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Tue, 13 Feb 96 19:16:06 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: Kats list Subject: Merchandise (was: Re: deep-six the off top...) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 96 17:00:00 PST Message-ID: <312153F6@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 17 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Andy wrote: Oh yeah, went through a Canadian Wal-Mart yesterday and found that they'd stocked the Kat-vids, but despite Christian Tremblay's info to the contrary, there wasn't a single kat-toy to be found. And naturally, after looking everywhere else for "Strike of Dark Kat" and ending up getting the thing from the 'States - guess what shows up at Wal-Mart? Grrrrrrrrrrr....... ----- This reminds me, has anyone seen any sign of the wrist-watches? I haven't come across any in my search and wanted to know who the manufacturer was and what stores carry them. I'd hope that stores that are selling the other H-B character watches would carry kats, but that might be expecting too much. -Matt mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 13 20:24:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA03569 for kats-ll; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 19:18:03 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA03559 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 19:17:59 -0500 Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.3/merit-2.0) with SMTP id TAA24763 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 19:17:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa01203; 13 Feb 96 19:19 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <312153F8@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Tue, 13 Feb 96 19:16:08 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: Kats list Subject: Re: How to draw Date: Tue, 13 Feb 96 17:09:00 PST Message-ID: <312153F8@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 27 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Many of you have probably tried to draw T-Bone or any other SWAT Kat >character, and said, "I can't do this! It just doesn't look right!" >Draw a circle. Just a normal circle of how big ya want his face. [snip] This is the basic way that all animators create their characters. Several books are available on cartoon artistry. >The model sheets for the Kat-guys that appeared in >"Toon" are extremely helpful for the would-be katanimators >among us. They show the construction lines and little >"rules" that help prevent all that "I can't do this!" screaming that usually accompanies many scrunched up >balls of paper. I draw 'em at work - where I have copies >of Butch Hartman's katmodel sheets up on the wall! Not all of us can be that lucky -- yet! :) When working on the drawings that I've done, I usually reference the scans that Andy (?) has already sent to the ftp site - they are invaluable. However, I'm starting to integrate a little of my own influence, and sometimes you can tell. If anyone's interested in how I've done my drawings send me some private mail & I'll let you in. -Matt mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 13 23:26:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA16914 for kats-ll; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 22:43:07 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA16909 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 22:43:03 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d157.infoserve.net [199.175.157.157]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA25441 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 19:52:49 -0800 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 19:52:49 -0800 Message-Id: <199602140352.TAA25441@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: BOUNCE kats: Non-member submission from [Peejster ] Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >To: kats@bort.mv.net >From: Peejster >Subject: Re: A SWAT Kats' month? > >At 09:17 PM 2/12/96 -0600, you wrote: >> >> I was wondering if as a fan body, do we have a month, i.e. a SWAT Kats' >>month? If not, I propose September since it is National Cat Health Month. >> >> >That's an excellent idea, IMHO. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 13 23:39:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA16987 for kats-ll; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 22:44:16 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA16976 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 22:44:09 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d157.infoserve.net [199.175.157.157]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA25538 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 19:53:10 -0800 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 19:53:10 -0800 Message-Id: <199602140353.TAA25538@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Kittens... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Dana wrote: >It'd be interesting to see how both Chance and Jake did their headfur then, >though. Any takers (among our resident arists, or "arteests") to sketch >the duo? (I'm almost tempted to do it myself, but I don't draw. :-P) This speculative stuff brought to mind a bizarre mental picture of the Kat guys at about the High School level. Anyone ever see a movie called "My Bodyguard" with Chris Makepeace from about 1979? If you remember it, try visualize Jake and Chance in the starring roles and see if it works as well for you as it does for me. I think there's a story in there somewheres... _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 13 23:58:59 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA16954 for kats-ll; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 22:43:50 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA16942 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 22:43:40 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d157.infoserve.net [199.175.157.157]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA25483 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 19:52:56 -0800 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 19:52:56 -0800 Message-Id: <199602140352.TAA25483@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: How to draw Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I wrote: I draw 'em at work - where I have copies >>of Butch Hartman's katmodel sheets up on the wall! Matt wrote: >Not all of us can be that lucky -- yet! :) >When working on the drawings that I've done, I usually reference the scans >that Andy (?) has already sent to the ftp site - they are invaluable. > However, I'm starting to integrate a little of my own influence, and >sometimes you can tell. If anyone's interested in how I've done my drawings >send me some private mail & I'll let you in. Yeah, I sent earlier versions to Walt for scanning - which came out horribly when posted - then I sent up a couple which I'd faxed to myself (don't try this at home, kids!). I think I'll send some copies with the colour stuff for scanning so that we'll have reasonable 1200 dpi versions of the things. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Feb 14 00:05:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA19303 for kats-ll; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 22:50:31 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA19028 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 22:49:15 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d157.infoserve.net [199.175.157.157]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA25534 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 19:53:07 -0800 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 19:53:07 -0800 Message-Id: <199602140353.TAA25534@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Red Triangles... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >How about this: Notice how the enforcer vehicles have a MegaKat herald on >them that's a triangle with something on top? Using the triangle design on >the SwatKat uniforms might just create a momentary hesitation in the mind of >an enforcer who might fire on them. Kind of a "Hey- we're good guys". >Sometimes a fraction of a second can help. Just a thought... I was told (and damn if I can remember by who) that the "Triangles" were originally supposed to be versions of the Kat-logo, but were rendered as "triangles" when the character models were simplified as the show went into production. I think I've got a couple of drawings from H-B somewheres that show what they were *supposed* to look like, and any of us who've seen Christian Tremblay's "T-Bone" sketches will note that he still draws the shoulder flashes as Katlogos rather than the more familiar triangle-type-things. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Feb 14 00:05:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA16927 for kats-ll; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 22:43:21 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA16922 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 22:43:19 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d157.infoserve.net [199.175.157.157]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA25504 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 19:53:04 -0800 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 19:53:04 -0800 Message-Id: <199602140353.TAA25504@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: The kats in your eyes Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Hi people, >I didn't find a woman that be alike Callie. Would she be Bridget Fonda? >Or Jane? I think that the last is more probable. Why? She was in great >politic activity in 60's/70's I think. Callie is deputy mayor, maybe >the later phase of Jane. Meanwhile Callie is special, her nose, mouth >and cheeks became her very singular. Yes, Jane was very political in the sixties - a certain visit to the Hanoi Hilton comes to mind - and not in a good way, either. There's a very uncomplimentary cartoon of Jane (who's married to Ted Turner - really! I have pictures!) showing her in a frame of "Workout Video", with a headstone that reads "MIA" in either fist in place of the usual set of dumbells. I haven't really found any real-world parallel to Callie...maybe Bridget Fonda a *little*, (especially in her "Jenna" incarnation on "Balto"), but no one that fits the bill both personality-wise and physically. And if I did, she'd be married to some ex-Football hero and living in Dallas, but..... that's another story. However, Jane *is* Deputy Mayor of a certain mansion in Atlanta, but I somehow doubt that's gonna carry much weight with Katfans! _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Feb 14 02:12:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA08660 for kats-ll; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 01:36:05 -0500 Received: from kashmir.fdt.net (root@kashmir.fdt.net [205.229.48.16]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA08649 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 01:36:02 -0500 Received: from yoda.fdt.net (buster@yoda.fdt.net [205.229.48.17]) by kashmir.fdt.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA08263 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 01:35:29 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 01:35:49 -0500 (EST) From: Buster Bunny To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: How to draw In-Reply-To: <199602140352.TAA25483@unix.infoserve.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Tue, 13 Feb 1996, chance wrote: > Yeah, I sent earlier versions to Walt for scanning - which came out horribly > when posted - then I sent up a couple which I'd faxed to myself (don't try this > at home, kids!). I think I'll send some copies with the colour stuff for > scanning so that we'll have reasonable 1200 dpi versions of the things. I've got access to a 300dpi flatbed grascale scanner, I'd be willing to scan kats related stuff for list members... If anyone needs anything scanned write me some email and I'll give you an address to send it to... -Buster Bunny ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit Buster Bunny's FTP site! ftp://ftp.fdt.net/pub/users/b/buster Home of the official Chris Brown distirbution site! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Feb 14 03:36:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id DAA19686 for kats-ll; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 03:15:02 -0500 Received: from [164.67.21.216] (ts33-11.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.21.216]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id DAA19670 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 1996 03:14:55 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 03:14:55 -0500 X-Sender: rat1@bort.mv.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: Re: Red Triangles... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On 2/13/96 at 7:53 PM, chance wrote: >I was told (and damn if I can remember by who) that the "Triangles" were >originally supposed to be versions of the Kat-logo, but were rendered as >"triangles" when the character models were simplified as the show went into >production. If you take a look at the full-page ad of the Kats that appeared in _Animation Magazine_, both T-Bone and Razor have the Kat-shaped outline on the shoulders of their uniforms. Interestingly enough, this also becomes another way to distinguish between the good and evil SWAT Kats in "The Dark Side of the SWAT Kats" (as if the skull and crossbones on the helmets of the evil SWAT Kats aren't enough): the shoulder designs of T-Bone and Razor's uniforms are red triangles, while those on the uniforms of the evil SWAT Kats are Kat-shaped. As far as people who have access to scanners go... maybe this should go into the FAQ. At least three listers have access to scanners (Ratman, Walt and now Buster), so you can pick the one closest to you. ;-) ============== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ============== Also: razor@netcom.com Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia razor@venom.st.hmc.edu From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Feb 15 21:01:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA16408 for kats-ll; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 20:22:56 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA16396 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 20:22:44 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d142.infoserve.net [199.175.157.142]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA04486 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 17:33:41 -0800 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 17:33:41 -0800 Message-Id: <199602160133.RAA04486@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: It's been a weird week for bounces... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >X-Sender: fhs1@shastalink.k12.ca.us >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >To: kats@bort.mv.net >From: fhs1@shastalink.k12.ca.us (Foothill High School Library) >Subject: Certain Unmentionable Persons E-Mail Addresses >X-Mailer: > > Hey, this is Jedi Master Wheeler. B-Ko just told me how to send >stuff to the list, and I was wondering if anyone had Ted Turner's >E-Mail addresse so I can send polite messages (yes, polite) to try to >convince him to put back the Kat Guys on the air. Also, I am trying to make >a QBasic demo program that will have the Turbokat (or at least, a close >looking thing) flying around and shooting the missiles at things and stuff >like that. So far, the plan is to do a wire-frame model, but I need full >color pics on paper of the TurboKat sent by snail-mail (I only have 4 colors >on graphics mode on my computer.) Also, Ryan is letting me write SW: >Battle 1 grey Side; Battle 2 Blue Side, and it isn't even past the beggining >of the story, you know, with just what's going on, and just to find out what >has been happening, and it's allready about 2-3 pages. But, not to worry, >it does have more than it's fair share on HUMOR! I love writing this story, >but, I haven't had any time. Also, AGAIN, I would like to read Terra's new >series (I can't remember the name, and I am not talking about 'Odd >Circumstances') so can you send it to louallen.wheeler@scsc.shasta.cc.ca.us >(I am doing all my main mail-checking at the schools computer, so I need to >get files at my home.) > > Well, I must be off! > > 'Do or do not--there is no try' > -Jedi Master Yoda > > See Ya', > Jedi Master Wheeler > > > _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Feb 15 23:27:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA24510 for kats-ll; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 22:27:16 -0500 Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com (emout04.mail.aol.com [198.81.10.12]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA24500 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 22:27:13 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA18256 for kats@bort.mv.net; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 22:26:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 22:26:42 -0500 Message-ID: <960215222640_145524160@emout04.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: A SWAT Kats' month? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I vote for July too, cause then we're all out of school, and we can do SK >activities all day, and lots of free time on our hands. Ditto. Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa Anne "This is Ann Phibian, hopping off" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Feb 15 23:36:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA24522 for kats-ll; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 22:27:22 -0500 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com (mail04.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.53]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA24514 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 22:27:20 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA18947 for kats@bort.mv.net; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 22:26:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 22:26:50 -0500 Message-ID: <960215222648_145524252@mail04.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Season 2--re-evaluation Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>ANIMATION: >>Cry Turmoil also had a hint of this technic (sp?). Other >>episodes, like Mutation City, had HORRIBLE animation, >>especially with T-B and Razor. >>Watch that scene in the obstacle course in Mutation City > >I think what's happened is that Mook's anime style has "leaked" into the >animation and over-rode the style sheets. IMO, I like the action & story >behind that scene and the animation isn't really _that_ bad -- just a little >different. > >I think my favorite style is that from "Katastrophe" - it's probably my >favorite story too. Personally, I liked "Mutation City" a little better than the other eps (actually, it's my favorite ep). I also enjoyed"Bright and Shiny Future". I guess I liked Mook's animation (especially the early second season stuff) a little better than the rest. Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa Anne "This is Ann Phibian, hopping off" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 16 00:40:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA10450 for kats-ll; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 00:13:41 -0500 Received: from [164.67.21.160] (ts30-3.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.21.160]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA10443 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 00:13:23 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 00:13:23 -0500 X-Sender: rat1@bort.mv.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: Re: A SWAT Kats' month? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On 2/15/96 at 10:26 PM, LtFFeral@aol.com wrote: >>I vote for July too, cause then we're all out of school, and we can do SK >>activities all day, and lots of free time on our hands. > >Ditto. Umm, can we try to keep the replies more substantial than just one or two words, please? (I strongly suggest you take a look at the SK list guidelines, if you haven't already read them. If you didn't receive them, they're available at "http://rat.org/razor/guidelines.txt") As far as the SK month goes, I'd suggest a sweeps month, such as February or May (although it probably won't matter so much since there aren't any new episodes being made, anyway). -- ============== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ============== Also: razor@netcom.com Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia razor@venom.st.hmc.edu From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 16 02:57:59 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA17815 for kats-ll; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 02:26:39 -0500 Received: from [164.67.21.213] (ts33-8.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.21.213]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA17810 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 02:26:32 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 02:26:32 -0500 X-Sender: rat1@bort.mv.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: Re: Season 2--re-evaluation Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On 2/15/96 at 10:26 PM, LtFFeral@aol.com wrote: >Personally, I liked "Mutation City" a little better than the other eps >(actually, it's my favorite ep). I also enjoyed"Bright and Shiny Future". I >guess I liked Mook's animation (especially the early second season stuff) a >little better than the rest. Mook's second season work is, IMHO, far better than its first season work. I'll have to confess, however, that I liked Hanho Heung-Up better than Mook as far as the first-season episodes went (particularly with respect to how T-Bone and Razor were drawn), but that Mook's quality improved dramatically with the second season. My nomination for best-animated SK episode is (and probably still remains) "The Deadly Pyramid." If you haven't seen it, watch for it on the Cartoon Network; or if you don't get TCN, get someone to dub you a copy. -- ============== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ============== Also: razor@netcom.com Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia razor@venom.st.hmc.edu From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 16 13:36:59 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA14433 for kats-ll; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 13:11:09 -0500 Received: from granite.mv.net (rat@granite.mv.net [199.125.70.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA14427 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 13:11:07 -0500 Received: by granite.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-941101) id NAA05378; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 13:11:06 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 13:11:06 -0500 (EST) From: Ratman To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: #swatkats IRC chat Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net In case nobody knew there is a #swatkats channel in IRC. I have created a web page on this at http://rat.org/kats/irc/ which pretty much explains it all. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 16 17:39:38 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA02660 for kats-ll; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 17:25:06 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA02651 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 17:24:47 -0500 Received: from net-1-162.austin.eden.com (net-1-162.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.162]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.3.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA26826 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 16:24:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 16:24:35 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199602162224.QAA26826@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Kittens... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >This speculative stuff brought to mind a bizarre mental picture of the Kat guys >at about the High School level. Anyone ever see a movie called "My Bodyguard" >with Chris Makepeace from about 1979? If you remember it, try visualize Jake >and Chance in the starring roles and see if it works as well for you as it does for >me. Sounds kinda like something Courtney does. Whenever she sees a new movie, she visualizes her current favorite T.V. show characters as the stars. (Like in "Goldeneye" Razor was bond, Callie was the girl, etc. ) And then with "Waterworld" it was Sonic characters... BTW, any new stories? I've got a three-day weekend here and nothing to do.... Are there any "Hanna-Barbera" stores? (Hey, it could happen! In the Barton Creek Mall, there's a Disney Store, a Warner Bros. store, a store for 'c' cat lovers... (sadly, no kats in the cats store. :{ ) Terra Chang, fan of a buncha stuff, writer, nice person (really, I am! Most of the time!) totally crazy. "We protest you calling us little kids! We prefer to be called 'vertically impaired pre-adults'." -Yakko Warner From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 16 19:50:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA11375 for kats-ll; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:42:15 -0500 Received: from [164.67.21.137] (ts28-12.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.21.137]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA11367 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:42:06 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:42:06 -0500 X-Sender: rat1@bort.mv.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: Re: Kittens... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On 2/16/96 at 4:24 PM, Kay Chang wrote: >(Like in "Goldeneye" Razor was bond, Callie was the girl, etc.) Hmm... "My name is Bond. Jake Bond." I *guess* it works. >Are there any "Hanna-Barbera" stores? (Hey, it could happen! In the Barton >Creek Mall, there's a Disney Store, a Warner Bros. store, a store for 'c' >cat lovers... (sadly, no kats in the cats store. :{ ) I don't know of any H-B stores per se; however, I *do* know of an animation store in the Santa Monica area in West L.A. (I believe its name is "Vintage Animation"). The last time I checked the store (about a couple of weeks ago), I saw animation cels of several of the older H-B characters (i.e., Snagglepuss, Yogi Bear, the Jetsons, etc.), but sadly, no cels of the Kats. (Not that I'd have been able to afford any on my income, which is currently nonexistent. :-P) Sometimes I wonder which is more difficult to locate: Kat stuff (other than the action figures or videos) or fox stuff. (Been trying to locate the latter with a friend and that stuff tends to be a very rare commodity, although you *do* manage to find 'em in antiques stores. But I digress...) Speaking of antiques stores... a few weeks ago I visited a few antiques stores and found some really old toys (was tempted to play with 'em, but never did ;-). What's this got to do with the Kats? Well, simply put: maybe in a few years the Kat stuff will make its way there. (Hey, ya never know...) -- ============== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ============== Also: razor@netcom.com Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia razor@venom.st.hmc.edu From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 16 19:56:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA12586 for kats-ll; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:48:16 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA12571 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:48:11 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA25884; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:23:59 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:22:25 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.01368361.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net, kaychang@eden.com Subject: Re: Kittens.../and new fanfic Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Sounds kinda like something Courtney does. Whenever she sees a new movie, >she visualizes her current favorite T.V. show characters as the stars. (Like >in "Goldeneye" Razor was bond, Callie was the girl, etc. this movie. Oh well.>) And then with "Waterworld" it was Sonic characters... I do that. Or I just stick them right in the story, alongside the characters, making jokes and dissing whatever seems odd in the movie or show. I call the characters who do this 'parodies.' For SWAT Kats, whenever I watch, Underdog is parodying in my head. Parodies don't disrupt the basic plot of the story. If the actually plot is similar to a TV show, then I will think up a story involving the kats if I really want to. I saw some of Tuskedy Airmen (sp?) on HBO and I pretended it was Jake and Chance going through enforcer Academy. But most of the time I use parodies. >BTW, any new stories? I've got a three-day weekend here and nothing to do.... >Are there any "Hanna-Barbera" stores? (Hey, it could happen! In the Barton >Creek Mall, there's a Disney Store, a Warner Bros. store, a store for 'c' >cat lovers... (sadly, no kats in the cats store. :{ ) Yup! My LONG fanfic, Children of the Stone, was JUST sent to rat.org, but it'll probably take a few days to get up. I hope you guys enjoy it! >Terra Chang, >fan of a buncha stuff, >writer, >nice person (really, I am! Most of the time!) >totally crazy. BTW, did you mail that copy of your friend's Razor's Nemisis? Just wanted to know if I should be watching for it 'cause the mail system over here is all screwed up sometimes. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 16 21:58:25 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA20246 for kats-ll; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 21:49:25 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA20195 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 21:49:18 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d150.infoserve.net [199.175.157.150]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA18772 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:00:56 -0800 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:00:56 -0800 Message-Id: <199602170300.TAA18772@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Forwarded msg Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >To: kats@bort.mv.net >From: fhs1@shastalink.k12.ca.us (Foothill High School Library) >Subject: Re: A SWAT Kats' month? >X-Mailer: > >> >> >>>I vote for July too, cause then we're all out of school, and we can do SK >>>activities all day, and lots of free time on our hands. >> >July's fine with me. But that's when I am most not at home (you know, >camping, going to LA again to see reletives, that is, if my grandma can put >up with us again.) >But, also, May would be cool. That's a cool month (because that's when my >B-Day is, on May 14.) >Just don't put it on June (my sister's B-Day) and not on the month of Ted >Turner's B-Day. >>Ditto. >> >>Lt FFeral@aol.com >>Melissa Anne >>"This is Ann Phibian, hopping off" >> >> > > > _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 16 22:12:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA21556 for kats-ll; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 21:59:06 -0500 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com (mail02.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.66]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA21551 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 21:59:04 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA23641 for kats@bort.mv.net; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 21:58:33 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 21:58:33 -0500 Message-ID: <960216215832_224192944@mail02.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Think about it... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I was watching "Wrath of Dark Kat" today and it got me thinking. What would have happened if Chance & Jake hadn't had to take over the salvage yard (but still got kicked out of the Enforcers)? Would they still have become the SWAT Kats? Any comments? Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa Anne " This is Ann Phibian reporting live from the Amphibolympics..." If only I had a little humility, I would be perfect. -Ted Turner From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 16 22:27:05 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA21177 for kats-ll; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 21:50:30 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA21013 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 21:50:20 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d150.infoserve.net [199.175.157.150]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA18815 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:01:56 -0800 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:01:56 -0800 Message-Id: <199602170301.TAA18815@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Forwarded post redux Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >To: kats@bort.mv.net >From: fhs1@shastalink.k12.ca.us (Foothill High School Library) >Subject: New Fanfic?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? >X-Mailer: > > Hey, Terra. I still haven't read the new series' yet (including >that story by your friend, 'Nemisis', or something.) But, if someone has a >list of all the fanfic out there, please send it along to >louallen.wheeler@scsc.shasta.cc.ca.us because I can't download on the school >computer. Also send any new Fanfic PKZIPped up to that same address. > > Bye, Bye!!!!! > > "-Do or do not--There is know try-" > > Jedi Master Yoda > > care of Jedi Master Wheeler!!!!! > > > _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 16 22:32:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA21356 for kats-ll; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 21:52:08 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA21344 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 21:52:02 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d150.infoserve.net [199.175.157.150]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA18832 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:03:39 -0800 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:03:39 -0800 Message-Id: <199602170303.TAA18832@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Second season stuff (forwarded) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >To: kats@bort.mv.net >From: fhs1@shastalink.k12.ca.us (Foothill High School Library) >Subject: Re: Season 2--re-evaluation >X-Mailer: >>>I think what's happened is that Mook's anime style has "leaked" into the >>>animation and over-rode the style sheets. IMO, I like the action & story >>>behind that scene and the animation isn't really _that_ bad -- just a little >> >>>different. >>> >>>I think my favorite style is that from "Katastrophe" - it's probably my >>>favorite story too. > >One of my favorite scenes is in the ep where Dark Krud and all the other bad >Kats ganged up and tried to kill the Kat guys. You, know, the part where >Callie got up and whacked Dark Krud with her purse, or something like that. >Well, it's the part with Callie jumping up, running and hitting DK with the >Anime-ish background. That part ^ROCKS!!!!!^ _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 16 22:38:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA22151 for kats-ll; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 22:11:03 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA22144 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 22:10:59 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d150.infoserve.net [199.175.157.150]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA20017 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:22:35 -0800 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:22:35 -0800 Message-Id: <199602170322.TAA20017@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Um...this 'forward' gets some extra comments... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net (Here's the forwarded part ">") >To: kats@bort.mv.net >From: fhs1@shastalink.k12.ca.us (Foothill High School Library) >Subject: Legal Technicalities >X-Mailer: > >Due to a school Internet agreement, I cannot use My real name, so therefore, >I am now changing my name to Grand Admiral Thrawn. Sorry, but one of the >people in charge of making sure that nothing gets screwed up or that pervs >don't send us kiddie-porn-type-crud. Well, I am still trying to get Ted >Turner's E-Mail address. Also, I am doing something (nothing that >will get the Feds on my case) involving ToonNet@AOL.COM (Hah!!!! Have fun >trying to figure out what that will be!) ...and here's my pre-emptive editorial. Dude, Toonnet@aol.com represents the Cartoon Network. I've talked with the Cartoon Network - they're on our side - and would like nothing better than more katseps to run beyond the completed 24. Unfortunately, Turner is set up so that the slowest form of communication occurs horizontally, so Cartoon Network's lines of communication to the rest of the Turner Empire are actually *worse* than ours to the Turner Empire. Scary, isn't it? For instance, Cartoon Network started receiving a ton of katmail at that there "toonnet" address, and someone there started making enquiries of the Turner chain-of-command as to why such an obviously popular show was canned in favour of relative drivel. Turner took a few days, then one of the suits in the heirarchy came up with "ratings". In reality, the answer should've been "Pirates of Dark Water"; the same type of mismanagement was responsible for the clueless behaviour witnessed in either sorry spectacle. The labyrinth of the Turner organization is designed so that it's impossible to simply pick up the phone, dial someone in the Atlanta Pentagon, and actually get connected to someone willing to take responsibility for something. Many have tried both within and without. Now, in the year that this list has been in existence, the Turner powers-that-be have considered us at turns inconsequential, mildly amusing, downright irritating - or even a eclectic collection of the kind of folks that clap their hands together hoping that certain fairies will reawaken from a coma. All of that can still be considered "positive", but adding juvenile internet parlor tricks to up the ante and spam addresses setup for fan feedback is not acceptable behaviour, is utterly counterproductive, and won't be cheered on the sidelines by any of the katfans I know. I don't doubt that whoever suggested this considered it some way to instigate some kind of movement within the Turner organization concerning the Kats, but believe me, this *isn't* the kind of movement we want. Turner screwed up big with public-relations on this whole Kat-thing, but we don't need to press the big "down" button to descend to the same level, do we? Anyway, horrible first message to welcome you to the list, but "welcome" regardless... _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 16 22:51:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA22812 for kats-ll; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 22:37:34 -0500 Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA22807 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 22:37:32 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA14311 for kats@bort.mv.net; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 22:37:18 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 22:37:18 -0500 Message-ID: <960216223717_146370919@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Kittens.../and new fanfic Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I do that. Or I just stick them right in the story, alongside the >characters, making >jokes and dissing whatever seems odd in the movie or show. I call the >characters >who do this 'parodies.' For SWAT Kats, whenever I watch, Underdog is >parodying >in my head. I do that too, accept I just 'parody' myself (kinda like that Mystery Science Theatre 2000 show, ad libbing when neccesary, and just making weird things stand out. I even have a little piece of paper that goes on the bottom of my tv...). > I saw some of Tuskedy Airmen (sp?) on HBO and I pretended it >was Jake >and Chance going through enforcer Academy. But most of the time I use >parodies. I saw that movie too(The Tuskegee Airmen), but anyway... I just put the kat characters into (my) real life situations (although it does kinda seem strange to see myself walking down the hall next to Jake & Chance, or sitting through a REALLY boring math class and wishing all the while that I could borrow their Glov-a-Trix and...) :-) Lt FFeral@aol.com / h10000@usa.pipeline.com Melissa Anne (I've got kats, frogs, and snow on the brain) "This year's Amphibolympics is sponsored by Croak-a-Cola, and the Froggy Movie Co, producing this year's smash hit Goldenfly, starring Pond, James Pond..." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 16 22:56:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA22580 for kats-ll; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 22:29:52 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA22571 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 22:29:45 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d150.infoserve.net [199.175.157.150]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA21394 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:40:51 -0800 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:40:51 -0800 Message-Id: <199602170340.TAA21394@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: H-B stores??? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >BTW, any new stories? I've got a three-day weekend here and nothing to do.... >Are there any "Hanna-Barbera" stores? (Hey, it could happen! In the Barton >Creek Mall, there's a Disney Store, a Warner Bros. store, a store for 'c' >cat lovers... (sadly, no kats in the cats store. :{ ) I've got this full unused kats-script to bang in, but it's forty pages of screenplay (tough enough to transcribe on the best of days), and I don't think my fingers are insured for enough. I'll try do it on the weekend - I'm too broke to go anywhere and it's raining Kats and Dogs. H-B supposedly has a couple of retail stores along the lines of the WBSS and the, *gulp* "Disney Store". Any of our Kats found them in their particular back-alleys? _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 17 03:00:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA16364 for kats-ll; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:41:19 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA16358 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:41:15 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.41] (dyn1041.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.41]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29765 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:42:31 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:39:16 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: #swatkats IRC chat Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >In case nobody knew there is a #swatkats channel in IRC. I know that there is #swatkats channel in IRC, but where? >I have created a web page on this at http://rat.org/kats/irc/ which pretty >much explains it all. Except on where to connect to (It just say EFNet.), I don't know the address of a server that is connected to EFNet. Please post to the list the avaiable servers that is connected to EFNet. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 17 03:17:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA16334 for kats-ll; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:40:55 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA16328 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:40:52 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.41] (dyn1041.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.41]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29735 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:42:08 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:38:53 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Scanners... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >On 14 Feb 1996 at 03:14 AM, razor wrote: > >As far as people who have access to scanners go... maybe this should go >into the FAQ. At least three listers have access to scanners (Ratman, Walt >and now Buster), so you can pick the one closest to you. ;-) Er, razor? I have an access to a colour scanner too. :-) >============== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ============== >Also: razor@netcom.com Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia > razor@venom.st.hmc.edu ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 17 03:19:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA16289 for kats-ll; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:40:20 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA16281 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:40:17 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.41] (dyn1041.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.41]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29702 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:41:35 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:38:18 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: SK MOV? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Andy... where are the SK movie? I haven't seen it on rat.org??? > >"kats@lists.mv.net"..."chance@unix.infoserve.net".....nope. I just don't >see how the two could be confused! (evil grin). Well, since that I think that the rest of the list also want to know on the location of SK MOV, I guess that it's okay to post it to the list. And after all, you did reply my message to the list and not to my directly. So I guess that my message to the list is normal message. >The SK.mov didn't decode properly (and a few of us tried), >so we'll have to try for another copy. Stuff happens. Can I try it? BTW, have anybody here thinking about digitizing the first and second season intro as a QT movie? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 17 03:25:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA16409 for kats-ll; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:41:54 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA16400 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:41:50 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.41] (dyn1041.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.41]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29785 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:43:04 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:39:50 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Think about it... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I was watching "Wrath of Dark Kat" today and it got me thinking. What would >have happened if Chance & Jake hadn't had to take over the salvage yard (but >still got kicked out of the Enforcers)? Well, the"TurboKat" is made out of junk (I have some funny experience about the TurboKat, want to hear it?), so if there is no junk around, so I guess that there is no TurboKat. >Would they still have become the SWAT Kats? Any comments? That's depend on what kind of SWAT Kats you mean. >Lt FFeral@aol.com >Melissa Anne >" This is Ann Phibian reporting live from the Amphibolympics..." ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 17 03:26:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA16274 for kats-ll; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:40:15 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA16267 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:40:11 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.41] (dyn1041.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.41]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29691 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:41:25 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:38:08 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: All the vehicles!? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Clell wrote: >O.K. SWAT Kat fans, can anyone name ALL the SWAT Kats vehicles? Or >ALL the weapons for the jet - Memory laps, I can't remember name of >jet! The vehicles: "TurboKat" is the SwatKats primary vehicle. And it's also a very interesting craft. "Cyclotron" is the SwatKats land vehicle. Unfortunately the SwatKats keep having a bad vehicle day with this one. "ThunderTruck" is the SwatKats land vehicle. It basicaly just a modified towing truck. Some sort of Jet Ski was used during "Mutation City". "Sand Kat" is the SwatKats desert vehicle. It look like a Cyclotron, but can be use on a sand enviroment. "Hover Kat" is the SwatKats hover vehicle. It's a hover craft. Weapons: Cement Machine gun, shoot out cements. Octopus Missile, form into an Octopus like shape a few seconds after it's deployed Match Head missile, this is intended for arsonist only. I think I once saw a bomb that was used to extuingish a fire in "The Metallikats", I think that that it was call "Hydro Bomb". Scrambler Missile, it will short circuit all the eletrical functions of the craft that has been hit by it. Ground Hog Missile, the name says it all. Mole Missile, it mimmick a mole (It dig a hole.). I think that there is two version of the mole version. Mega Volt Missile, it will electrify something. Shredder Missile, it will shred something to pieces. Slicer Missile, want to slice something? Banshee Missile, it destroy the target by bombarding it with sonic waves. Buzz Saw Missile, it will saw something. (And I mean saw as "a saw", not as see.) Cyclotron Missile, the Cyclotron is actualy a missile. Mega Beam, this is some sort of beam, the device that fired the beam is inside the TurboKat nose. Pincer Missile, use this if you want to pinch something. Plain Old missile, the old fashion way of blasting your target. And of course there is the Glovatrix, that has has a lot of mini weapons and gadgets in it: Mini cement launcher. Mini Scrambler missile. Blow Torch. Ok, that it's the best that I can think of right now. Anyone want to add more to this list? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 17 03:32:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA16300 for kats-ll; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:40:27 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA16294 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:40:24 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.41] (dyn1041.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.41]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29708 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:41:40 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:38:24 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Kittens... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Ok, I just receive a calendar that contains pictures of kittens from my >>aunt (She is a cat lover too) and I'm wondering. How do the SwatKats look >>like when they just a little kitten? > >Kinda cute probably - but can you imagine Feral as a kitten? *Shudder* I can, we probaly see a cute little kitten in the hand of a nice and caring lady (That's his mother and Felina's grandmother.). Of course nobody will know that the little kitten is really Feral. BTW, speaking of Felina, can anybody imagine her as a little kitten? as an 8 year old perhaps? I know that I can. >It's rather odd that we don't see a kid-kat younger than about five - even >in the "Razor's Edge" hospital set where you'd figure the urge to draw a >mewling kat-infant would be irresistible. This is one of the missing years that I mention in this list before. BTW, do the kats mother still lick their little kittens? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 17 03:32:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA16393 for kats-ll; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:41:45 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA16386 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:41:41 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.41] (dyn1041.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.41]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29775 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:42:39 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:39:41 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Movies = SWAT Kats? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >On 2/16/96 at 4:24 PM, Kay Chang wrote: >>(Like in "Goldeneye" Razor was bond, Callie was the girl, etc.) > >Hmm... "My name is Bond. Jake Bond." I *guess* it works. Er, I thought you name was Clawson?? now your name is Bond? >Speaking of antiques stores... a few weeks ago I visited a few antiques >stores and found some really old toys (was tempted to play with 'em, but >never did ;-). What's this got to do with the Kats? Well, simply put: >maybe in a few years the Kat stuff will make its way there. (Hey, ya never >know...) The question is the reason on why they are going to be in the antique stores, are those kats stuff are going to be antique stuff (Collectibles stuff.)? or is it that the kats stuff is going to be a very very rare commodity (The last one on Earth.)? >-- >============== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ============== >Also: razor@netcom.com Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia > razor@venom.st.hmc.edu From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 17 03:35:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA16316 for kats-ll; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:40:36 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA16311 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:40:33 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.41] (dyn1041.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.41]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29721 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:41:51 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:38:34 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: SK MIDI -> SK MOD? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Andy wrote: >>I'll ask the next time I talk to Mark. The Heavy Metal-style stuff in >>the Kats probably wouldn't translate well to any tinnified PC Sound Card >>that *I've* ever heard, but it's worth a shot. Yeah, I guess that it's worth a shot, but then again, I don't use sound card. Matt.W wrote: >Yes, MIDI is probably not the best way to handle a guitar riff. Have you >ever considered working with a MOD editor. MOD? Er, Matt? you really misses the Amiga don't you? >The quality is usually _much_ >better since you use actual digitized sounds rather than computer >representations. I agree with Matt, I think that MOD is probaly a better alternative than MIDI. Besides, you can put your SwatKats favorite sayings at the middle of the song and the sound of the TurboKat as it whoosing by. Oh yeah, don't forget the sound of a missile launching too. >Matt Weber >mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 17 03:37:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA16347 for kats-ll; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:41:05 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA16342 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:41:02 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.41] (dyn1041.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.41]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29752 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:42:15 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:39:03 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats logo -> Red Triangles ? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I was told (and damn if I can remember by who) that the "Triangles" were >originally supposed to be versions of the Kat-logo, but were rendered as >"triangles" when the character models were simplified as the show went into >production. I think I've got a couple of drawings from H-B somewheres that >show what they were *supposed* to look like, I just saw some of the art (Pictures) from the SNES game (I saw them from rat.org.), and it seem that their logo is in the place of the red triangles that we talk about recently, are this is the sketches that you mention? >and any of us who've seen >Christian Tremblay's "T-Bone" sketches will note that he still draws the >shoulder >flashes as Katlogos rather than the more familiar triangle-type-things. Is Christian Tremblay's sketches was use as an art for the SNES game? (I mean the cover of the game package, the manual page, and the title screen.) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 17 03:44:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA16309 for kats-ll; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:40:32 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA16303 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:40:29 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.41] (dyn1041.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.41]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29716 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:41:46 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:38:30 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Red Triangles... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >How about this: Notice how the enforcer vehicles have a MegaKat herald on >them that's a triangle with something on top? Using the triangle design on >the SwatKat uniforms might just create a momentary hesitation in the mind of >an enforcer who might fire on them. Kind of a "Hey- we're good guys". >Sometimes a fraction of a second can help. Just a thought... Well, it won't help them in my story, triangle are some sort of target sight (I always have the tendency to shoot everything that has a triangle in them. But then again, I do have some tendency to shoot everyone who has the name Bob. :-)), so wearing a triangle is like begging to get shot (Well, I be tempted to shot. Of course who want to shot the SwatKats?). Although that wearing them may give the Enforcer an impression that they and the SwatKats are going to share the same fate, so it may best that if they both work together instead of fighting each other. ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 17 03:45:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA16371 for kats-ll; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:41:23 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA16365 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:41:19 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.41] (dyn1041.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.41]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29768 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:42:36 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:39:19 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Movies = SWAT Kats ? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Terra wrote: >Sounds kinda like something Courtney does. Whenever she sees a new movie, >she visualizes her current favorite T.V. show characters as the stars. (Like >in "Goldeneye" Razor was bond, Callie was the girl, etc. this movie. Oh well.>) Razor was Bond??? I think that agent Q is much better comparison. :-) BTW, if Callie was the girl, who is Felina? Oh yeah, ever try to visualize SWAT Kats as Star Wars? Felina and Dark Kat already got the role. :-) I put T-Bone and Razor in the part of Han Solo. BTW, speaking of Star Wars, I once saw a Star Wars chess game, I wonder what will happen if there is gonna be a SWAT Kats chess game. >And then with "Waterworld" it was Sonic characters... What part does Knuckles got in "Waterworld"? :-) >BTW, any new stories? Ryan's "Razor's Lament" and "Dark Ages" are currently the newest story around, beside those two, I don't know any new stories around. >I've got a three-day weekend here and nothing to do.... Try IRC, maybe we can waste more time that way. ;-) >Terra Chang, >fan of a buncha stuff, From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 17 03:47:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA16355 for kats-ll; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:41:12 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA16350 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:41:08 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.41] (dyn1041.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.41]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29757 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:42:23 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:39:08 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Season 2--re-evaluation Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>ANIMATION: >>>Cry Turmoil also had a hint of this technic (sp?). Other >>>episodes, like Mutation City, had HORRIBLE animation, >>>especially with T-B and Razor. >>>Watch that scene in the obstacle course in Mutation City >> >>I think my favorite style is that from "Katastrophe" - it's probably my >>favorite story too. > >Personally, I liked "Mutation City" a little better than the other eps >(actually, it's my favorite ep). And I think that I know the reason on why you like the "Mutation City" episode, right Lt.Feral? ;-) Well, if I cann't guess correctly the reason on why you like "Mutation City", I just hope that Feral can. >I also enjoyed"Bright and Shiny Future". I >guess I liked Mook's animation (especially the early second season stuff) a >little better than the rest. I will comment on the second season after I have seen all the second episodes. BTW, I think that I like the early second season's plot, it really incorporated Felina's role in the SwatKats universe, some of the later second season's plot seem to be just a recap from the first season episodes. >Lt FFeral@aol.com >Melissa Anne >"This is Ann Phibian, hopping off" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 17 03:49:25 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA16324 for kats-ll; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:40:44 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA16319 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:40:41 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.41] (dyn1041.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.41]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29726 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:41:58 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:38:41 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Deep-six the off-top replies please... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>DJ CLAWSON wrote: >>> >>>Even David Doi, in my phone conversation with him, said those >>>episodes simply weren't done well. So the season basically left a >>>bad taste in my mouth. Also, seaQuest also sucked in its second >>>season > >Clell wrote: >> Actually DJ, Seaquest sucked in it's first season. Bad science, >>bad acting, horribly bad submarining. I always curious on the kats technology of submarining, do MegaKat have a "DSV"? that's "Deep Submergence Vehicle" (aka a vehicle that can go underwater.) for you that haven't watch the show. I think that the TurboKat can be consider as a "DSV" too (Remember "Mutation City"?). chance wrote: >C'mon guys, could we please watch replies like this? If it ain't on-topic, >please go to e-mail. The original post is a comparison of the two shows - >fine- >but the reply kinda belongs on a SeaQuest list, no? 'Nuff said. Well chance, you should have seen the off topic messages on the Spaced mailing list, when they go off the topic, they really go off the topic. Why do I mention this thing on the kats list? Well, you should really see what caused the off the topic messages at Spaced recently, the whole thing started when somebody (That's me.) try to compare Voyager with a junk (Well, it's sorta made out of junk.). Well, at least the junk can go over Mach 5. Ok, back to on the topic again. Somebody here said that we should have a SWAT Kats month, my vote is also for July. But if you ask me, I think that we should make everyday a "SWAT Kats" day. Of course the SwatKats day to me is probaly on Saturday and Sunday. ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 17 03:51:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA16282 for kats-ll; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:40:18 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA16273 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 02:40:14 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.41] (dyn1041.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.41]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29697 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:41:31 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:38:14 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Katmosphere Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >"When Stikes Mutilor answers all of our kat air questions! yes, kats DO >breathe oxygen, because after the come out of the water Mutilor trapped >them in, Razor says, "Haven't you ever heard of oxygen masks?" Well, is their "oxygen" is the same as ours? BTW, how do they get out from the "water trap" anyway? >Another article: Re: Origin of Dark Kat > >Secret Files say current wherabouts: Unknown I think that all information about Dark Kat should be unknown, it's nice to have a mysterious kat around. >Another article: Re: Kat=Cat and origin of DK > >Another sci fi idea with humans and kats: To continue that virus theory, Virus??? I've got only one thing to say, it's play time! :-) Ok everybody, go to your own BattleMech pod and let the battle began. (Sorry DJ, but I just cann't help my self. :-)) >maybe it only attacked humans, and humans found that cats are immune, so >the did like a jurassic park bredding thing to make human cats, but to >not confuse the two, they called human cats Kats. Sound just like "Inherit the Earth". Of course in "Inherit the Earth", the human race just mysteriously disappear (The reason on why humans disappear form Earth was never known. And their reason on why making Animal as an intelligent beings was never known too.). The problem with this theory though, the must be some remains of human civilization on the kat planet (In "Inherit the Earth" there is some ancient buildings that was created by an ancient race that was called...humans.), and we haven't seen any sign of human civilization on the kat planet (We should really give the kat planet a name.). Sci-Fi idea: What if the kats were a genetic left over from an old civilization (aka human civilization.)? just like ST:TNG "The Chase", where are an old humanoid race (We can put human in this position.) was seeding humanoid genetic code into other young planets in the galaxy (We can put the kat planet in this position.). >A.J. Freda ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 17 08:14:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA03520 for kats-ll; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 08:03:36 -0500 Received: from [164.67.22.100] (ts38-7.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.100]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA03510 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 08:03:28 -0500 Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 08:03:28 -0500 X-Sender: rat1@bort.mv.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: Misc. Kat stuff Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net (What am I doing up at this hour?! Good question... and no, I don't have a good answer. In any event...) Why might the second-season SK animation be better than the first-season animation? I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this yet, but I'm very much tempted to say that at least one of the reasons is that Callie's drawn with much more curves than in the first season. Compare her, *ahem*... bustline between the first and second seasons, and you'll see what I mean. ;-) Edo commented on how Felina might have been the main reason the second-season SK episodes were better than the first-season eps. Interestingly enough, when I commented on the show on rec.arts.animation over a year ago (and at the time I was *really* lucky if I received even one response, either through a followup or in personal email), someone else commented that they didn't like Felina. She was too "PC" for their taste (and I assume that this comment referred to Felina as being a strong female lead -- not your stereotypical helpless female). I comment: > Maybe in a few years the Kat stuff will make its way [to the antiques > stores]. and Edo adds: > The question is the reason on why they are going to be in the antique > stores, are those kats stuff are going to be antique stuff (Collectibles > stuff.)? or is it that the kats stuff is going to be a very very rare > commodity (The last one on Earth.)? I was thinking more along the lines that Kat stuff could become collectible items. In the antique stores I've seen very old toys that I used to play with while growing up in the disco era (i.e., the 70s). But they could also be rare (as it is, I believe the SK poster and SNES game are difficult to track down, for example). And keep in mind that the poster and game only came out within the past year! How valuable might these become? I personally don't know, but there's no way I'm planning on parting with the SK merchandise *I* have. And another idle early-morning thought: what do you think might go into a Kat time capsule? I'm assuming that Megakat City is based on current times (i.e., the 90s) here. -- Dana, who really thinks he oughta take a Katnap right about... now... zzzzz..... From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 17 11:14:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA14802 for kats-ll; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 10:56:30 -0500 Received: from granite.mv.net (rat@granite.mv.net [199.125.70.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA14797 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 10:56:28 -0500 Received: by granite.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-941101) id KAA06863; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 10:56:27 -0500 Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 10:56:27 -0500 (EST) From: Ratman To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: #swatkats IRC chat In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sat, 17 Feb 1996, Edo Andromedo wrote: > >In case nobody knew there is a #swatkats channel in IRC. > > I know that there is #swatkats channel in IRC, but where? > > >I have created a web page on this at http://rat.org/kats/irc/ which pretty > >much explains it all. > > Except on where to connect to (It just say EFNet.), I don't know the > address of a server that is connected to EFNet. Please post to the list the > avaiable servers that is connected to EFNet. No, the appropriate place to post that would be on the web page. I'll go do that. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 17 15:32:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA29925 for kats-ll; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 15:17:41 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA29920 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 15:17:37 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.114] (dyn1114.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.114]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA17976 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 03:18:47 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 03:15:37 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Responsible Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Well, people do became more reponsible when a kid is near them, I >>think that this is the reason on why Commander Feral became more of >>an adult when times goes by. He has to look after Felina. > >It also works the opposite way. Kids are usually more responsible around >adults and adults around elders, They have to, if not, they gonna get their tail whip. :-) >although, there are a few exceptions. >I guess people (or kats) are just more relaxed around their peers. Yeah, I guess so too. >Lt FFeral@aol.com >Melissa Anne >Don't worry Joe-Bob, WE WILL HAVE OUR REVENGE!!! (don't ask!) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 18 00:32:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA08829 for kats-ll; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 00:18:21 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA08824 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 00:18:18 -0500 Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA09465 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 00:17:40 -0500 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 00:17:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199602180517.AAA09465@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Goof Subject: Kats Video Clips, Web Site Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hi All! I just posted a couple of video clips, CHANCE and FURBALL to rat.org in both Microsoft Video (.AVI) and QuickTime (.MOV) format. You can also find them on ftp://ftp.maxie.com/SwatKats, and on the new web site (see below). *Warning* on the Quicktime Versions - they are somewhat "Experimental". If you have any trouble playing them on your system, please read the info on them on my web site. The AVI's shouldn't cause anyone any trouble. In case anyone is interested, while creating the QuickTime versions this afternoon I came up the wild idea of sticking a few Kat pages on my server. Too much spare time and lots of free disk space is a dangerous combination.. :-) Probably the only thing interesting is The MegaKat City MoviePlex, a home for these video clips, and future ones when I get around to creating them. The URL of the site is http://www.maxie.com/SwatKats Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 18 13:40:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA19719 for kats-ll; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 13:23:24 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA19710 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 13:23:21 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.52] (dyn1052.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.52]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA17116 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 01:24:38 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 01:21:22 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Um...this 'forward' gets some extra comments... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Admiral Thrawn wrote: >>Due to a school Internet agreement, I cannot use My real name, so therefore, >>I am now changing my name to Grand Admiral Thrawn. Admiral Thrawn, I heard great things that you have done to the empire, it's too bad that you was betrayed and kill by your own personal body guard. chance wrote: >Turner screwed up big with public-relations on this whole Kat-thing, but >we don't >need to press the big "down" button to descend to the same level, do we? Lets test that shall we. Prepare for Descend. :-) >Anyway, horrible first message to welcome you to the list, but "welcome" >regardless... I remember my first message to the list. :-) BTW Admiral Thrawn, I also welcome you to the "Kats" mailing list. :-) Oh yeah everybody, what is your first SwatKats episode? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 18 13:55:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA19699 for kats-ll; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 13:23:13 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA19693 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 13:23:09 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.52] (dyn1052.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.52]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA17100 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 01:24:25 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 01:21:09 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Callie and Callista Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>BTW, has anybdoy here noticed that Callista seem to be younger than Callie? > >It's probably just the way she looks. Well, I think that Callista seem to be younger, her personalities and her face seem to belong to a young kat instead of a queen. I think that she fill the position of a queen because her parents died (Assuming that the leadership in MegaLith city is by blood lines.). BTW, no wonder the Pastmaster seem to like Callista, his memory of her look much better than the real ones. ;-) >If you put Callie in a dress and take her glasses, they would probably look to >be around the same age. How about if I put Callista in a business suit and give her glasses instead? :-) I'm suprised that neither Sir T-Bone or Sir Razor aren't suggesting Callista to wear glasses when they are in the Dark Ages. "You know my queen, does anybody ever told you that you'll look good with glasses?" "Glasses?? what is this.....'glasses'?" >Lt FFeral@aol.com >Melissa Anne >Don't worry Joe-Bob, WE WILL HAVE OUR REVENGE!!! (don't ask!) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 18 13:57:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA19708 for kats-ll; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 13:23:19 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA19700 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 13:23:14 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.52] (dyn1052.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.52]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA17106 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 01:24:29 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 01:21:13 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Nitpicker's Guide to SWAT Kats Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >And speaking of "Bride...", Callista says in her incantation to "send these >Kats [T-Bone and Razor] back to modern times..." Wouldn't Megalith City be >"modern" to Callista? I think that Callista is living in Medieval times. BTW, why is that Callista aren't speaking ancient english? >Maybe an incantation like "send these Kats back to >their own times" might have worked (and it would have been a perfect >syllabic substitute, too). Actualy, I'm still wondering, how do she know the word "modern"? I don't know much about english words and their origins (So I maybe wrong here.), but it seem to me that "modern" isn't quite the sorta word that somebody in the Dark Ages will use regulary. >============== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ============== >Also: razor@netcom.com Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia > razor@venom.st.hmc.edu I do have a question about "Unlikely Alloys", how do Zed got corupted by the Metallikats criminal personalities? I know that Zed fix the Metallikats, but do Zed really plug in to the Metallikats memory banks? Oh yeah, when Greenbox merge with Zed, why is that they doesn't speak at the same time? and why does Zed need to search for more information? isn't the information from Mac already sufficient? I think that there is some version of Zed: Zed (Cute, nice, old Zed.) Hover Zed (Zed with the Metallikats vehicle.) Enforcer Zed (Zed with some Enforcer vehicles.) Gigantic Zed (As tall as a Saturn 5 rocket. Well, assuming that Zed's master control is in it's head..) Gigantic Zed + Laser Satellite (There goes another landmark.) Hmmm, I always wonder, what will happen if Zed assimilate a rocket? I think that's gonna be cool, Zed goes up to orbit and try to target MegaKat city from there. Of course since that the SwatKats is in there, I guess that it isn't quite possible in "Unlikely Alloys". ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 18 14:07:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA19714 for kats-ll; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 13:23:22 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA19706 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 13:23:18 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.52] (dyn1052.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.52]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA17112 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 01:24:33 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 01:21:17 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: It's been a weird week for bounces... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Hey, this is Jedi Master Wheeler. B-Ko just told me how to send >stuff to the list, and I was wondering if anyone had Ted Turner's >E-Mail addresse so I can send polite messages (yes, polite) to try to >convince him to put back the Kat Guys on the air. Finding Ted Turner's e-mail address is like finding the house of a particular kat. And believe me, it's gonna be hard. >Also, I am trying to make >a QBasic demo program that will have the Turbokat (or at least, a close >looking thing) flying around and shooting the missiles at things and stuff >like that. Sound just like "Rescue" (A shareware game.). Of course in "Rescue" it was the Enterprise-D firing Photon torpedos and Phaser, rescuing colonist from an outpost that is gonna be attack by the Romulans, asking an alliance from the Klingons and the Ferengi, meeting Q and going to the wormhole. Oh yeah, don't forget the Borg (I fear that someday Zed will assimilate a Borg ship, then after Zed do that, the assimilated Borg ship goes back to the Borg homeworld and assimilate some more Borg ship.), they are your worst nightmare when they have entered your sector and starting to attack both the federation starbase and outpost. Why do I say this on this list? look for some similarities and I think that you'll find some things that also in the SwatKats universe. >Also, Ryan is letting me write SW: >Battle 1 grey Side; Battle 2 Blue Side, and it isn't even past the beggining >of the story, you know, with just what's going on, and just to find out what >has been happening, and it's already about 2-3 pages. BTW, is the "SW" in "SW: Battle 1 grey side" stands for "Star Wars"? >But, not to worry, >it does have more than it's fair share on HUMOR! I love writing this story, >but, I haven't had any time. I love to write story too, and I have plenty of time, is the skill for writing a story that I'm lacked off. > Well, I must be off! > > See Ya', > Jedi Master Wheeler ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 18 15:48:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA26271 for kats-ll; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 15:11:59 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA26265 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 15:11:57 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.144] (dyn1144.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.144]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA18659 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 03:13:07 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 03:09:57 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: High School... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Dana wrote: > >>It'd be interesting to see how both Chance and Jake did their headfur then, >>though. Any takers (among our resident arists, or "arteests") to sketch >>the duo? (I'm almost tempted to do it myself, but I don't draw. :-P) > >This speculative stuff brought to mind a bizarre mental picture of the Kat guys >at about the High School level. Well, I think that I got some idea on how do the guys dress while they are in high school in "The Wrath of Dark Kat". BTW, have any teenager is ever seen on MegaKat city? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 18 15:57:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA26279 for kats-ll; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 15:12:03 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA26272 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 15:12:00 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.144] (dyn1144.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.144]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA18667 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 03:13:17 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 03:10:01 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Jumping, running, and hitting. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>>I think my favorite style is that from "Katastrophe" - it's probably my >>>>favorite story too. >> >>One of my favorite scenes is in the ep where Dark Krud and all the other bad >>Kats ganged up and tried to kill the Kat guys. You, know, the part where >>Callie got up and whacked Dark Krud with her purse, or something like that. >>Well, it's the part with Callie jumping up, running and hitting DK with the >>Anime-ish background. That part ^ROCKS!!!!!^ Callie do that in "Katastrophe"? COOL!!!! I know that she can really do that, I got to see this episode. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 18 16:07:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA26259 for kats-ll; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 15:11:45 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA26254 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 15:11:41 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.144] (dyn1144.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.144]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA18650 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 03:12:42 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 03:09:32 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Kat-ching up... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Thanks to a hard disk crash, I've lost all my email since Saturday (and I >haven't had a chance -- pardon the unintentional pun -- to download the >recent archives from the list), Saturday?? Saturday when? There is plenty of Saturday. >but I'll comment on some of the digests I've seen since then: > >How independent is Razor? I think that he can do what ever it takes when ever the situation need him to do so. >On Dark Kat being Feral's brother and Felina's father: what do you think >this is, Star Wars? ;-) I think that I just hear the "Imperial March". :-) I always wonder how do T-Bone and Razor handle an A-Wing. :-) "Use the force Jake!" :-) Fanfic idea: Have you guys ever think a full scale alien invasion on the kat planet? Possible attack on the kat planet by the empire: A fleet of Star Destroyers are entering a planet orbit, they are on their attack position. Meanwhile, on the bridge of the Super Star Destroyers. "Lord Vader, Our fleet has arrived on the planet orbit.". "Good..., launch all the fighters, the Rebels are hiding on this planet. Find them..." "Yes My lord..." All the TIE fighters are launching from all the Star Destroyers, their target.....MegaKat city. Well, with some other cities included too. The empire has got some anonymous tip that some Rebels are hiding on the kat planet, a special kind of Rebel. Well, I do have to pratice writing a story, don't I? :-) A plot twist: Have you guys ever think that Jake (Or Chance.) and Callie (Well, Felina already got Dark Kat. :-)) were brother and sister? :-) Well, at least has some family relation. >But seriously... I don't think Feral would have >commented the way he did in "A Bright And Shiny Future" if that had been >the case: "I oughta throw [Felina] off the force... but my brother would >never speak to me again... and besides, she's too good an Enforcer!" I think that Feral doesn't want her to get hurt or anything. So if she leave the Enforcer, Feral will be a happy kat indeed. >Simon sez (I know, it's a bad pun, but... ;-) >>Maybe Razor was licking his wounds or something before the ep ... he seems >>to get bumped around a lot more than T-Bone :) razor wrote: >No kidding. If Kats *do* lick themselves in response to stress, then why >doesn't Razor get hairballs/furballs more often? Maybe he has some hairball eliminator, it was mention in "Razor's Edge". BTW, do the kats still lick each other? >In any case, that's it for now. TTFN -- Ta Ta For Now... > >============= Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ============= >Also: razor@rat.org Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia > razor@venom.st.hmc.edu From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 18 16:18:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA26289 for kats-ll; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 15:12:11 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA26284 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 15:12:07 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.144] (dyn1144.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.144]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA18673 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 03:13:21 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 03:10:05 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Misc. Kat stuff Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >(What am I doing up at this hour?! Good question... and no, I don't have >a good answer. In any event...) > >Why might the second-season SK animation be better than the first-season >animation? I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this yet, but I'm very much >tempted to say that at least one of the reasons is that Callie's drawn with >much more curves than in the first season. Curves??? BTW, I think that the second-season animation was great on the action scenes (Like on how the TurboKat fly, the explosion, etc.). Ann Gora and Dr.Sinian look much better too in the second season episodes. The only problem is, if Steel do comeback in the third season episode (Assuming that there is gonna be a third season and Steel is allowed to comeback.), do he still maintain his fox like look? >Compare her, *ahem*... >bustline between the first and second seasons, and you'll see what I mean. >;-) Don't know, I actualy like on how she was drawen on some of the first season episodes, except the drawing of Callista, although that in "The Deadly Pyramid", Callista's drawings in the flashback scene (Or drawback, since that the whole scene is a complete re-draw. :-) So I guess that Mook really done their job on Callista.) is much better than the real thing (The Pastmaster seem to have a great imagination on Callista.). Callie's drawing on "Mutation City" was good too, although that her neck seem to be strange at "Mutation City". BTW, it's kinda hard to comment on her drawing in the second season episodes, want to know the reason? >Edo commented on how Felina might have been the main reason the >second-season SK episodes were better than the first-season eps. Well, it was DJ who said that, I just said that some of the early second season episodes really incorporated Felina's role into the SwatKats universe. I think that some of that episodes is "Mutation City", "A Bright and Shiny Future", "When Strikes Mutilor", "Cry Turmoil", and "SWAT Kats Unplugged". >Interestingly enough, when I commented on the show on rec.arts.animation >over a year ago (and at the time I was *really* lucky if I received even >one response, either through a followup or in personal email), someone else >commented that they didn't like Felina. Maybe because Felina seem to look like a mother, and somehow mother seem to be... Er, you decide. >She was too "PC" for their taste >(and I assume that this comment referred to Felina as being a strong female >lead -- not your stereotypical helpless female). "PC"??? how come Felina become too "PC"? We all will become helpless if the situation make us helpless. >Edo wrote: >> The question is the reason on why they are going to be in the antique >> stores, are those kats stuff are going to be antique stuff (Collectibles >> stuff.)? or is it that the kats stuff is going to be a very very rare >> commodity (The last one on Earth.)? razor wrote: >I was thinking more along the lines that Kat stuff could become collectible >items. I just hope that is the reason the kats stuff ended up in the antique stores, and not because that the kats stuff aren't being produced anymore. >In the antique stores I've seen very old toys that I used to play >with while growing up in the disco era (i.e., the 70s). But they could >also be rare (as it is, I believe the SK poster and SNES game are difficult >to track down, for example). And keep in mind that the poster and game >only came out within the past year! Uh-oh, it's happening. The end is near. Er, why do I suddenly becoming just like Doomsday? >How valuable might these become? I personally don't know, but there's no >way I'm planning on parting with the SK merchandise *I* have. I don't think that anybody will. :-) >And another idle early-morning thought: what do you think might go into a >Kat time capsule? I'm assuming that Megakat City is based on current times >(i.e., the 90s) here. Well, MegaKat seem to be stuck in a time warp. Their cars look something from the past, their Enforcer jets look like a jet from 60's-70's, the TurboKat look like a F-14 Tomcat, the commercial airliner that Turmoil disable look like a XB-70 Valkrye (Well, the only other plane that I can compare too is probaly the new "Quester" plane.), a F-16 aircraft look alike in "The Ghost Pilot", a stealth craft does exist, etc. Here what I think that supposed to go in the capsule: 1. The latest edition of Kat Kommandos comic. 2. A tape of Kateyes News. 3. A tape of Scaredy Kat. 3. A magazine. (Fanfic all you want on the contains of that magazine.) 4. Commander Feral's report on how do the Enforcer really work. 5. A SWAT Kats log book. (So that future protector of MegaKat city will know on how to fight an enemy.) 6. A Glovatrix. 7. A history book that is written by Dr.Sinian. 8. A transcript of Mayor Manx speeches. (All the speeches, both the original ones and the ones that was ghost writed.) 9. A picture of all the SWAT Kats characters. (Including the bad guys.) 10. A calendar that always stuck in "July". :-) Well, that is only some that I can think of right now, does anybody here want to add? >-- Dana, who really thinks he oughta take a Katnap right about... now... >zzzzz..... ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 18 16:36:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA29635 for kats-ll; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 16:02:45 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA29630 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 16:02:42 -0500 Received: from net-1-112.austin.eden.com (net-1-166.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.166]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.3.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id PAA19556 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 15:02:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 15:02:36 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199602182102.PAA19556@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Jumping, running, and hitting. X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Callie do that in "Katastrophe"? COOL!!!! I know that she can really do >that, I got to see this episode. No, sorry to bust your bubble, but she did that in one of the Dark Kat episodes, not "Katastrophe." (I can *NEVER* get the Dark Kat episodes straight!! :p) The one where Dark Kat and Hard Drive steal the Turbokat. I *think* it was the other one, _*NOT*_ "Night of the Dark Kat". (I know, I know, I should remember these things, but I have a test in math coming up, and I'm forgetting a lot of stuff. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.) Terra Chang, fan of a buncha stuff, writer, nice person (really, I am! Most of the time!) totally crazy. "We protest you calling us little kids! We prefer to be called 'vertically impaired pre-adults'." -Yakko Warner "I'm sorry...you looked so much like the 'Chesire Cat' that I was actually hoping bits of you would start to dissapear." -Andy Hill (Chance), really cool friend o' mine From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 18 17:47:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA04353 for kats-ll; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 17:38:41 -0500 Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA04348 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 17:38:38 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA17965 for kats@bort.mv.net; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 17:38:19 -0500 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 17:38:19 -0500 Message-ID: <960218173818_425702418@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Jumping, running, and hitting. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Callie do that in "Katastrophe"? COOL!!!! I know that she can really do >>that, I got to see this episode. Katastrophe was the one when all the villians (Dark Kat, Dr. Viper, & The Metallikats) joined up (I think). >No, sorry to bust your bubble, but she did that in one of the Dark Kat >episodes, not "Katastrophe." (I can *NEVER* get the Dark Kat episodes >straight!! :p) The one where Dark Kat and Hard Drive steal the Turbokat. I >*think* it was the other one, _*NOT*_ "Night of the Dark Kat". I think it _was_ "Night of the Dark Kat" that Callie did that. >(I know, I >know, I should remember these things, but I have a test in math coming up, >and I'm forgetting a lot of stuff. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.) Math!? AHHHHHH!!! I know how you feel. (I hate math! I just sit there, wishing all the time I had a Glov-A-Trix so I could...) >Terra Chang, >fan of a buncha stuff, >writer, >nice person (really, I am! Most of the time!) >totally crazy. > >"We protest you calling us little kids! We prefer to be called 'vertically >impaired pre-adults'." > -Yakko Warner > >"I'm sorry...you looked so much like the 'Chesire Cat' that I was actually >hoping bits of you would start to dissapear." > -Andy Hill (Chance), really cool friend o' mine Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa Anne "Forrest Bump has just won the Amphibolympic title for the Long Leap event..." BTW- If anyone on the list knows what OM is, e-mail me! (if you don't, forget you even read this) :-) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 18 21:51:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA17596 for kats-ll; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 21:28:02 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA17591 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 21:28:00 -0500 Received: from sl33.redding.snowcrest.net (sl33.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.129]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA03393 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 18:30:21 -0800 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 18:30:21 -0800 Message-Id: <199602190230.SAA03393@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: B-ko Daitokuji Subject: Re: Pink triangles Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 07:04 AM 2/12/96 +0700, you wrote: >>Now riddle me this: why do they have pink triangles on their helmets? ;) > >In "Mutation City" it was used as a flashlight. But if I view it from a >philosophical point of view, I guess that it's symboling a cat (Or kats.) >nose, since that cats (Or kats.) seem to have a nose that look like a >triangle. > Let's see... After checking out the SWAT Kat's uniforms, I *have* found pink triangles on their heads, and um, they're used for hearing. Strange, all kats have these triangles, also known as ears. Anything pink on the actual SWAT Kat uniform, T-Bone has pink on his uniform in "Cry Turmoil" You know, the purple one that didn't go with the helmet? Even then, it's not triangles, so forget it! _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 18 22:32:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA20911 for kats-ll; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 22:22:37 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA20906 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 22:22:34 -0500 Received: from sl33.redding.snowcrest.net (sl15.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.79]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA05644 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 19:24:55 -0800 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 19:24:55 -0800 Message-Id: <199602190324.TAA05644@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: B-ko Daitokuji Subject: Re: To Feral or not to Feral, that is the question. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>B-ko Daitokuji wrote: >>>>Turner's a $@#^! That's why! >>> >>>Hmmm, five letters, could it be that Turner is a "Feral"? >> >>Insult to Feral! Come on, Feral's not that bad! > >Well, I mean the cat type, and not Commander Feral's last name. What I mean >is, could it be that Turner is an alley cat? > It's still an insult to the... er- whatever you said. >>Look Ted is self-centered. I was watching Turner's Barly Sane (TBS), and >>what did I see, there was it's slogan "Wake up to TBS!" and there was Ted's >>coffe mug, with his name on it. I ask you, what kind of self important idiot >>would put valuable time into a half second on his coffee mug? > >I know the answer. Well for gosh sakes, tell me. If anyone else has a clue, tell me. why is the punk so self centered? > >>And another thing, the movie that followed was edited for time. Why >>would anyone want to do that, so we can get another glimpse at his coffee >>mug, or his sickish face (it is an ugly site! I've seen the thing on TV!)? > >I know the answer for this one too. comment here same as above. > >>I ask you, go nice on Feral. > >Well, which Feral do you want me to be nice to? Of course I be nice to all >Feral cats and kats, just as long that they doesn't bug me. go on both! When Ted's involved, calling him anything is an insult to whatever you're calling him. > >>Out of all the SWAT Kat characters, I empithasize >>with him the most and sometimes, I find I act just like him (weird!)! Don't >>ask me why, because I don't know!! > >Well, out of all the SWAT Kats characters, I think that the character that >I can relate to myself is probaly Steel (Or is it Steele?), since that I >act (almost) just like him, and when chance (Andy Hill) told me that Steel >is the sorta guy that has no friends, I became more certain that there is >some connection between me and Steel. > Well, do you get so much into it that you even have a neice that (I can't say for certian) might look like Felina? Something like that's happening to me. Her parents kinda look like Felina, so I don't have a clue. Also, my urge for breaking things when I get highly agitated didn't start when I noticed the connection between us. THIS is why I say what I say. Does anyone else get this close to being a clone of a SWAT Kat character? _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 18 22:50:05 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA20903 for kats-ll; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 22:22:29 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA20898 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 22:22:26 -0500 Received: from sl33.redding.snowcrest.net (sl15.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.79]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA05636 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 19:24:50 -0800 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 19:24:50 -0800 Message-Id: <199602190324.TAA05636@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: B-ko Daitokuji Subject: Re: Season 2--re-evaluation Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Due to length of this manuscript, most of it was cut out to save downloading time (Something I tend to forget to do!!) > I don't have time to go through ALL the episodes ONE by ONE, so >here are my general comments: > I have watched all the episodes except episode 24 (What's it's name?) and have had time to evaluate and analyze the entire series from "Giant Bacteria to episode 23 (Dark Side of the SWAT Kats or Unlikly Alloys) so here are my comments for both seasons. These are just my ideas. Be free to make your own. >ANIMATION: Season one showed a refreshing change from terrable "foregrounds" (The moving gunk) and realistic backgrounds. Many scenes showed signs of two shades of color to represent shadows, while others lacked. (Hey, it's VERY difficult to draw like that!!) Overall, the series was much more realistlc than any other H-B production. Season two displayed average anime style with below average backgrounds, excepting "Deadly Pyramid", which showed average anime throughout. Also showing many different styles, the second season generally had more action scenes and seemed generally at night, giving the animation a whole new style of it's own. >PLOTS: Season one had plots that were very develpoed. Many seemed to be solved by trial and error, chance and logic. Elemants that generally are more suspensfull, but other times, can drag on. Season two had plots less developed, but generally went quicker and more intense because the goals seemed to be in sight, but out of reach, so to speak. >CHARACTERS: Season one introduced a complicated array of characters. The season shows how each is "related" to another. The criminal minds were a traditional one sided kill all for one reason. The season seemed to signal something more complex to arise. Season two began to exaggerate some of the characters, while explin others better. The setup presented in Season one seemed to be a bit ignored in the second season. Even with the complexity toned down, the characters (excepting vilians) seemed to act more like a human would act. >If I think of anything more to say I'll send out another note. I don't have enough time to put down my entire analyses, and besides, it get tecnical. (and I don't like translating tecnical into English) >BTW, my fanfic Children of the Stone, (208 KB, BEAT THAT), it finished, but I'm I WILL! >having problems >uploading through the FTP sight. I need B-KO to get back to me on >that, please. > Download it to me anytime. The sooner the better (Tomarrow [however spelt] would be perfect)! If anyone else on Prodigy has problems sending fanfics to Rat, I would be glad to do it (saves downloading time) for anyone using that particuluar online servace. America Online, Compuserve, and ReallyDumdEMailSystems are on their own. gvvy03c _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 19 07:42:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id HAA28739 for kats-ll; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 07:26:19 -0500 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com (mail02.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.66]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA28734 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 07:26:17 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA24545 for kats@bort.mv.net; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 07:25:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 07:25:46 -0500 Message-ID: <960219072546_225647674@mail02.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: To Feral or not to Feral, that is the question. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Well, do you get so much into it that you even have a neice that (I can't >say for certian) might look like Felina? Something like that's happening to >me. Her parents kinda look like Felina, so I don't have a clue. Also, my >urge for breaking things when I get highly agitated didn't start when I >noticed the connection between us. THIS is why I say what I say. Does anyone >else get this close to being a clone of a SWAT Kat character? My sister says I sound just like Jake (I have kinda the same "scratch" in my voice), and sometimes I find myself acting like him too. Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa "Ann Phibian" Anne "...This is Ann Phibian, hopping off..." If only I had a little humility, I would be perfect. -Ted Turner From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 19 17:51:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA10336 for kats-ll; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:21:18 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA10321 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:21:04 -0500 Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.3/merit-2.0) with SMTP id RAA05399 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:20:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa11532; 19 Feb 96 17:23 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <312921D1@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Mon, 19 Feb 96 17:20:17 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: Kats list Subject: Re: Kittens... Date: Mon, 19 Feb 96 17:20:00 PST Message-ID: <312921D1@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 15 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >It's rather odd that we don't see a kid-kat younger than about five - even >in the "Razor's Edge" hospital set where you'd figure the urge to draw a >mewling kat-infant would be irresistible. >This is one of the missing years that I mention in this list before. In "When Strikes Mutilor", there are 3 kat toddlers building a sand castle on the beach when Mutilor's ship approaches. And, there was an infant shown in the Red Lynx episode when Manx was at the hotdog cart. Also, in "Night of the Dark Kat" (I think), it looks like a 7 year old asking his pop what the SK were doing (when it was actually Hard Drive in the Turbokat). -Matt mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 19 18:20:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA10973 for kats-ll; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:41:12 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA10966 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:41:08 -0500 Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.3/merit-2.0) with SMTP id RAA05943 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:40:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa11545; 19 Feb 96 17:43 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <31292698@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Mon, 19 Feb 96 17:40:40 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: Kats list Subject: Re: Think about it... Date: Mon, 19 Feb 96 17:40:00 PST Message-ID: <31292698@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 12 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Well, the"TurboKat" is made out of junk (I have some funny experience about >the TurboKat, want to hear it?), so if there is no junk around, so I guess >that there is no TurboKat. Heh. With the way that the Enforcer choppers & jets rain from the sky, you'd think there'd be 3 or 4 Turbokats! I'd really like to know how the guys dug out that huge underground base without anyone noticing... -Matt mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 19 21:31:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA25676 for kats-ll; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 21:02:06 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA25671 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 21:02:03 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA33246 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 20:50:44 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 20:49:06 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.01592083.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Think about it... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Heh. With the way that the Enforcer choppers & jets rain from the sky, >you'd think there'd be 3 or 4 Turbokats! I'd really like to know how the >guys dug out that huge underground base without anyone noticing... I've always wondered what happened to all those downed enforcer choppers and planes. When Jake and Chance crashed once while they where in the enforceres, they really were nailed for it. What happens to the OTHER enforcers who crash into buildings? Feral must go through enforcers pretty fast. In my little world of SK (though I never bothered to mention it in my fanfic), there was an old military base built beneath the salvage yard long before our guys were there--probably before or during MegaWar II. Of course, they had to update it, but . . . you have to realize that the idea of Jake and Chance digging out and constructing an entire hanger (without anyone realizing it, no less) is next to impossible. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 19 22:23:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA26914 for kats-ll; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 21:38:17 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA26899 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 21:38:12 -0500 Received: from net-1-129.austin.eden.com (net-1-129.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.129]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.3.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id UAA16048 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 20:38:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 20:38:04 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199602200238.UAA16048@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Think about it... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Of course, >they >had to update it, but . . . you have to realize that the idea of Jake >and Chance >digging out and constructing an entire hanger (without anyone >realizing it, no >less) is next to impossible. > > Dr. Jake Hmmmm....could it be the infamous 'cartoon physics?' Ahhh, the wonders of the cartoon world! (Sorry, end-of-vacation depression. I'll be myself again tomorrow. Promise!) Terra Chang, fan of a buncha stuff, writer, nice person (really, I am! Most of the time!) totally crazy. "We protest you calling us little kids! We prefer to be called 'vertically impaired pre-adults'." -Yakko Warner From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 19 23:21:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA03614 for kats-ll; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:52:58 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA03609 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:52:55 -0500 Received: from sl32.redding.snowcrest.net (sl32.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.128]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA08985 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:56:09 -0800 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:56:09 -0800 Message-Id: <199602200356.TAA08985@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: B-ko Daitokuji Subject: Re: A SWAT Kats' month? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > > >>I vote for July too, cause then we're all out of school, and we can do SK >>activities all day, and lots of free time on our hands. > >Ditto. Let's go everyay, but July and September (Why not just every other month?), do a bit extra for my idol, Ted "is a !$%# and secretly hopes to wed some non-albino white buffalo befoore his perminent teeth come in, which they probably never will, but is too dumb to spend the money for false teeth" Turner. (Ted's soo conceited! It makes me want to send letters to him every second, till he puts SWAT Kats back in production!) >"This is Ann Phibian, hopping off" > "This is B-ko Daitokuji, pretending Ted "See above for nickname" Turner is A-ko, shooting off (her mouth)" _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 19 23:23:12 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA03959 for kats-ll; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 23:05:59 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA03954 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 23:05:57 -0500 Received: from sl32.redding.snowcrest.net (sl32.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.128]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA09473 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 20:09:09 -0800 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 20:09:09 -0800 Message-Id: <199602200409.UAA09473@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: B-ko Daitokuji Subject: Re: H-B stores??? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I've got this full unused kats-script to bang in, but it's forty pages of screenplay >(tough enough to transcribe on the best of days), and I don't think my fingers >are insured for enough. I'll try do it on the weekend - I'm too broke to go >anywhere and it's raining Kats and Dogs. > Hey, that'll be great in present form! Something like that would be so much help in writing fanfics. (I study characters in different situations to see how they react, but so far is quite limated by my only seeing 23 eps out of the megahuge 24. Do the math, and you'll see that there's just one more that I havn't seen. I feel such anguish [hey, It's a BIG hole in my life, and an EVEN BIGGER embarassment!]) Or is that what you were doing? _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 19 23:35:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA03591 for kats-ll; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:52:45 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA03586 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:52:42 -0500 Received: from sl32.redding.snowcrest.net (sl32.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.128]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA08971 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:55:58 -0800 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:55:58 -0800 Message-Id: <199602200355.TAA08971@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: B-ko Daitokuji Subject: Re: A SWAT Kats' month? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 10:01 PM 2/12/96 -0800, you wrote: >> >> I was wondering if as a fan body, do we have a month, i.e. a SWAT Kats' >>month? If not, I propose September since it is National Cat Health Month. > >Hey, it's also fall series debut month - perhaps a good omen? I'd tend to vote >for "July" myself, partly because of the SwatKats calendar eternally transfixed >on Miss July, and partly because the TCN marathon "SwatKats Month" was >also July. > Hey, Why not Septemper AND July? More is always good. SWAT Kats needs the extra fan pounding on Turner's Probably Senile (TPS), and just as much as Turner Can't (be) Normal (TCN). E-Mailing Ted himself is better, though, since it was probably the one who did it. Hey, Mabye it wasn't him, considering all the confusion, Tedco might have stopped the series from production by mistake. If this is true, then I didn't write "A Tribute to Ted Turner by B-ko Daitokuji" Even though it is at the end of one of my other fanfics! _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 19 23:43:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA03599 for kats-ll; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:52:49 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA03594 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:52:47 -0500 Received: from sl32.redding.snowcrest.net (sl32.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.128]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA08978 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:56:02 -0800 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:56:02 -0800 Message-Id: <199602200356.TAA08978@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: B-ko Daitokuji Subject: Re: It's been a weird week for bounces... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Can't help myself, bear with me! >> Hey, this is Jedi Master Wheeler. B-Ko just told me how to send >>stuff to the list, and I was wondering if anyone had Ted Turner's >>E-Mail addresse so I can send polite messages (yes, polite) to try to >>convince him to put back the Kat Guys on the air. If we had, Ted would have to spend hours downloading all the E-Mail messages of polite E-mail from me. I'm sure everyone else would do the same. Try anything that might be related with him. Ted@Turner.com to ReallyStupidIdiotWhoSitsOnHerFaceAllDay@Turner.com >>Also, I am trying to make >>a QBasic demo program that will have the Turbokat (or at least, a close >>looking thing) flying around and shooting the missiles at things and stuff >>like that. So far, the plan is to do a wire-frame model, but I need full >>color pics on paper of the TurboKat sent by snail-mail (I only have 4 colors >>on graphics mode on my computer.) Also, Ryan is letting me write SW: >>Battle 1 grey Side; Battle 2 Blue Side, and it isn't even past the beggining >>of the story, you know, with just what's going on, and just to find out what >>has been happening, and it's allready about 2-3 pages. My name's B-ko! Sure hope you can make the QBasic file. Hey! Mabye I could give you my Season Two QBasic Title Song to put with it. It's a bit off, but mabye you can fix it, just keep the key the same, because that much is correct (Even if the rest is too cheesy for words). You'd better get on that story, I'd love to read the whole thing. I'm sure there's others here going to do the same. I can't live on my imagination alone! (Not to pressure anyone, or put anyone down, besides myself). >>But, not to worry, Well I am, so forget it! >>it does have more than it's fair share on HUMOR! Ha! Right. Talking about name brand products might get boring after a while, unless there's more in there than that (But anything SWAT Kats is good in itself). >> I love writing this story, >>but, I haven't had any time. Yeah, you're too buisy being BORED! DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFE!! Well....... SWAT Kats is priority one in my life, so me to talk. Sorry. >> Also, AGAIN, I would like to read Terra's new >>series (I can't remember the name, and I am not talking about 'Odd >>Circumstances') That was dead a long time ago. I hope you finish it, Terra, as well as the other few you're working on. The ones you started on, but havn't posted yet sound cool! (Insert Ned, your loving accountant saying: SWAT Kat Fanfic is Life! here) >> so can you send it to louallen.wheeler@scsc.shasta.cc.ca.us >>(I am doing all my main mail-checking at the schools computer, so I need to >>get files at my home.) You can ask someone personally to do that for you. I'd do that to everyone who had this problem, but I don't have enough Hard Disk space (Half of it and all Kats media, are on floppies!!). I would if I got another hard drive bigger than 80Mb. >> >> Well, I must be off! Not off the list, I hope! >> >> 'Do or do not--there is no try' >> -Jedi Master Yoda >> 'I get what I want and what i want is a fight (to save the SWAT Kats)' - B-Ko Daitokuji 'Kill' -Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuke with the two U's (Anti Star Wars thing!) _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 20 00:35:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA08559 for kats-ll; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 23:55:55 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA08486 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 23:55:48 -0500 Received: from sl32.redding.snowcrest.net (sl37.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.133]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA11213 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 20:58:11 -0800 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 20:58:11 -0800 Message-Id: <199602200458.UAA11213@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: B-ko Daitokuji Subject: Re: Um...this 'forward' gets some extra comments... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >(Here's the forwarded part ">") Wow! Here's your forwarded stuff. You see, the more ">"'s there are, the more times It's been quoted, when sometimes not necesary (I myself used to do this, of course, to an extreme.) >>Due to a school Internet agreement, I cannot use My real name, so therefore, >>I am now changing my name to Grand Admiral Thrawn. Sorry, but one of the >>people in charge of making sure that nothing gets screwed up or that pervs >>don't send us kiddie-porn-type-crud. Well, I am still trying to get Ted >>Turner's E-Mail address. Why uugghh? Getting his E-Mail address would be the best thing ever! >> Also, I am doing something (nothing that >>will get the Feds on my case) involving ToonNet@AOL.COM (Hah!!!! Have fun >>trying to figure out what that will be!) Don't worry, I'll make him spill it, then I'll tell (If I'm feeling especially cruel, of course!). > >...and here's my pre-emptive editorial. > Huh? >Dude, Toonnet@aol.com represents the Cartoon Network. I've talked with the >Cartoon Network - they're on our side - Uh, huh, right! Well, mabye..... > and would like nothing better than >more katseps to run beyond the completed 24. WAHT'S IT'S NAME???????????????? > Unfortunately, Turner is set up >so that the slowest form of communication occurs horizontally, so Cartoon Network's >lines of communication to the rest of the Turner Empire are actually *worse* than >ours to the Turner Empire. Well, who'se in charge of the corperation. What else would wou expect (insert evil grin!). > Scary, isn't it? No, very hopefull! Mabye we can get closer than TCN (and yes, I DIDN'T knock it [again]) > For instance, Cartoon Network started >receiving a ton of katmail at that there "toonnet" address, and someone there >started making enquiries of the Turner chain-of-command as to why such an >obviously popular show was canned in favour of relative drivel. Turner took a few >days, then one of the suits in the heirarchy came up with "ratings". In reality, the >answer should've been "Pirates of Dark Water"; the same type of mismanagement >was responsible for the clueless behaviour witnessed in either sorry spectacle. > So you're saying, we're beginning to make a dent here? That's good. We should all persist on this. Once it dies, who knows what might happen (more WPT's YUK!) >The labyrinth of the Turner organization is designed so that it's impossible to >simply pick up the phone, dial someone in the Atlanta Pentagon, and actually >get connected to someone willing to take responsibility for something. Many >have tried both within and without. > Another reason America is so screwed up today. It's not teens, it's people like Ted Making bad choices blaming it on the younger generation. Any comments? > All of that can still be considered >"positive", but adding juvenile internet parlor tricks to up the ante and spam addresses >setup for fan feedback is not acceptable behaviour, is utterly counterproductive, and >won't be cheered on the sidelines by any of the katfans I know. You don't know me very well. Whatever works to a posative goal toward SWAT Kats, you'll se me doing! >Turner screwed up big with public-relations on this whole Kat-thing, but we don't >need to press the big "down" button to descend to the same level, do we? It dosn't matter to me. If I have to a level lower to reach what I want, I'll do it. Remember, some people do get vicious when it comes to SWAT Kats (or Anti-SWAT Kats mainly from my freinds [soon to be seen otherwise]). _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 20 01:12:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA19265 for kats-ll; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 00:50:04 -0500 Received: from [164.67.21.209] (ts33-4.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.21.209]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA19252 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 00:49:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 00:49:56 -0500 X-Sender: rat1@bort.mv.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net A couple of miscellaneous Kat-things here: Saw "Razor's Edge" on the Cartoon Network today and noticed something -- is it just me, or does Megakat City have a very lax building code? It appears that just about anything can destroy the walls of buildings, even by simply slamming someone hard against a wall. While I can't verify this (and perhaps someone can email the Cartoon Network at 'toonnet@aol.com'), it appears that SK's run on the Cartoon Network will be over after this month (beginning March 4, "Speed Racer" will take over its time slot at 5:30 pm Eastern/2:30 pm Pacific). Perhaps it's just moving over to a different time slot (hope, hope...) On the subject of teenage Kats: in "When Strikes Mutilor" you see what would probably be the closest to teenage Kats (or at least college-age ones) at Megakat State Beach. Of course, Kat age is a relative thing (we don't know what the average lifespan of a Kat is, for example; tho judging by all of the destruction that takes place in the city it probably isn't very high ;-). -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia "I was raised to always offer my seat to a lady..." -- Razor From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 20 02:17:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA24307 for kats-ll; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 02:04:39 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA24302 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 02:04:36 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d147.infoserve.net [199.175.157.147]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA29318 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 23:18:08 -0800 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 23:18:08 -0800 Message-Id: <199602200718.XAA29318@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Um...this 'forward' gets some extra comments... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Oh yeah everybody, what is your first SwatKats episode? First for moi was, I think, "The Giant Bacteria". _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 20 09:53:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA18732 for kats-ll; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 09:38:07 -0500 Received: from [164.67.22.64] (ts36-3.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.64]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA18727 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 09:38:01 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 09:38:01 -0500 X-Sender: rat1@bort.mv.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: Updated FAQ available at "http://rat.org/pub/kats/swatkats.faq" Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net The subject line says it all. If you want the latest FAQ file, feel free to download it from the above site. If you don't have web access, you can also access it via ftp in the same directory (although HTTP is preferred). If you have neither, please email me for a copy of the updated FAQ. As always, comments and questions on the FAQ are welcome. -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia "I was raised to always offer my seat to a lady..." -- Razor From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 20 11:15:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA23531 for kats-ll; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 10:43:17 -0500 Received: from PICA.ARMY.MIL (octavius.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.111]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA23526 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 10:43:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 96 10:37:55 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Kats at Toy Fair Message-ID: <9602201037.aa05245@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Well, I successfully finagled my way into Toy Fair 96, which is a trade-only show covering the international toy market. Chance and a few others know why I was there, but I did manage to stop by Gordy Toys, which had a range of SK stuff. No action figures, but then all of the action figure companies were in "appointment only" mode because of the action figure collectors. Anyway, Gordy Toy has retained the SK license, and still offers their full SK product line: Flash Gun Sunglasses Handcuffs Flying Props Action Set Bubble Blaster Karate Punch Game Glider Launcher Binocular Most of these items were of the "generic" variety, having little or nothing to do with SK. By changing the colors of the plastic, the decals and the card, most of these items are adaptable to virtually any licensed property. Indeed the SK sunglasses were one of a dozen or so for different licenses. The rep was very proud of this :) I had him fooled good, and he invited me to have lunch in the showroom (good sandwiches!), where we chatted about SK and the stupidity of TedCo, among other things. They also had four different molded case watches: Both Kats T-Bone Razor TurboKat Apologies if this is old news. A partially-related aside: Sailor Moon has had poor ratings. It has been showing at the 0530 slot in most markets. In the NYC market it's on at 0630 and is one of the highest-rated shows. I'm not a programmer with a six- figure salary, but I could have figured that out too. And TedCo accuses SK of poor ratings??? TedCo is _very_ aggressively pushing Jonny Quest as a licensed property. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 20 15:58:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA16787 for kats-ll; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 15:32:03 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA16782 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 15:32:00 -0500 From: max@maxie.com Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA02857 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 15:31:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 15:31:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199602202031.PAA02857@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 12:49 AM 2/20/96 -0500, Razor wrote: >Saw "Razor's Edge" on the Cartoon Network today and noticed something -- is >it just me, or does Megakat City have a very lax building code? It appears >that just about anything can destroy the walls of buildings, even by simply >slamming someone hard against a wall. They must, if they have a building code at all. Considering large parts of the city are being constantly destroyed, yet we seldom see any construction going on, they're throwing buildings back up so fast that they couldn't be taking the time to do it right. That or all the building are built by the same Kats that make helicopters for the enforcers. That's got to be the most profitable business on the planet.... Besides, can anyone picture Feral checking building permits? Unrelated, (but why start a second message?): I added a couple more movies and some new images my website today. Also, thanks to help from Ratman, the files are now served by HTTP, so make sure you hit 'reload' if your browser doesn't do it automatically, some of the links on the old pages are now broken. Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 20 17:39:12 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA24810 for kats-ll; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 17:12:08 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA24805 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 17:12:05 -0500 From: max@maxie.com Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA03072 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 17:11:50 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 17:11:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199602202211.RAA03072@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: MoviePlex OOPS! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net My appologies to anyone that tried to access the new movies and failed...Stupidity is running rampant over here today! :-) Forgot to name the new page .html, you we still getting the old one. Should work fine now. Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 20 21:15:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA11509 for kats-ll; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 20:56:32 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA11497 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 20:56:26 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d152.infoserve.net [199.175.157.152]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA15518 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:10:19 -0800 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:10:19 -0800 Message-Id: <199602210210.SAA15518@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Kats going off air? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net From: The Cartoon Network Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 11:08:14 -0500 To: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Kats going off air? Dear Andy: It's true that Speed Racer is replacing Swat Kats' Monday - Friday 5:30 pm time slot. Swat Kats will still air on Saturdays at 2pm Eastern Time. This schedule is effective March 4th. The schedule will change again in June and the Swat Kats may go back into their regular schedule. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 20 22:12:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA14087 for kats-ll; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 21:46:25 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA14053 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 21:46:20 -0500 From: max@maxie.com Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA03635 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 21:46:03 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 21:46:03 -0500 Message-Id: <199602210246.VAA03635@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Kat Decency Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I was thinking about this today and wondering if anyone else had given it any thought... We have always seen the Kats clothed, but is it acceptable in thier society to not wear anything at all? Before anyone says "Say What?!" I'll explain what brought this on. I was going through video frames today to put some more online, and I ran accross one of Jake and Razor watching a cartoon with a nude Kat in it.(Before you ask, I don't know which show it was from) Now, nude Kats (or cats) are perfectly acceptable in cartoons in OUR world, but a cartoon with a nude human generally would not be. How does all this apply in to the Kats Universe? Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 20 23:09:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA20201 for kats-ll; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 22:56:31 -0500 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com (mail02.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.66]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA20188 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 22:56:28 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA25319 for kats@bort.mv.net; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 22:55:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 22:55:57 -0500 Message-ID: <960220225556_227328317@mail02.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Kats going off air? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Dear Andy: > >It's true that Speed Racer is replacing Swat Kats' Monday - Friday 5:30 pm >time >slot. Swat Kats will still air on Saturdays at 2pm Eastern Time. This >schedule >is effective March 4th. The schedule will change again in June and the Swat >Kats >may go back into their regular schedule. I sent a letter YESTERDAY NIGHT to ToonNet asking why c(k)ats were less seen then dogs on Cartoon Network, and I also asked em about the "Secret Files of the SWAT Kats" and SKIQ. I was extremely surprised to find this in my mailbox TODAY: Kinda off- topic (kat stuff is down further!) We're sorry that you're annoyed with us! It's just that we've got so many more cartoon dogs running around than cartoon cats. For every Sebastian, there's a Muttley, a Mumbley, a Precious Pupp, and a big white bulldog preventing Huck from delivering mail! The situation is supernatural! Apparently the cartoon cat owners heeded Bob Barker's advice and the dog owners didn't! IMPORTANT KAT STUFF: You bring up an interesting point, and we will forward your letter to our Programming Department, as I'm sure they would be interested in reading your comments. Who knows? Perhaps they'll get to work on more cat programming. As for Speed Racer--it is true that he will be taking over the SWAT Kats timeslot, but unfortunately we don't yet have information on what the fate of the Kats will be. We don't know why the episodes shown here on Cartoon Network differ from those that were shown on TBS. We'll try to get an answer for you. If you write back toward the end of the week, hopefully we'll have the information then. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 20 23:48:05 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA21092 for kats-ll; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:19:24 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA21064 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:18:41 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d143.infoserve.net [199.175.157.143]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA23398 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 20:32:49 -0800 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 20:32:49 -0800 Message-Id: <199602210432.UAA23398@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Kat Decency Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Before anyone says "Say What?!" I'll explain what brought this on. I was >going through video frames today to put some more online, and I ran accross >one of Jake and Razor watching a cartoon with a nude Kat in it.(Before you >ask, I don't know which show it was from) Now, nude Kats (or cats) are >perfectly acceptable in cartoons in OUR world, but a cartoon with a nude >human generally would not be. How does all this apply in to the Kats Universe? Hmmm....there's that re-occurring kat-babe that seems ever-present in closets etc. in the "Skaredy Kat" toons (usually handing ol' Skaredy a Rocky & Bullwinkle-style bomb, if memory serves), but she has at least some clothing on from what I recall. Still, I think I would spend the effort to track down such a frame if it could be ballparked a bit closer. Actually, what does Skaredy wear besides the occasional diving helmet and well-worn Avery take? "Nothing" comes to mind, but I'll have to go look. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 20 23:55:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA21189 for kats-ll; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:22:31 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA21184 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:22:26 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d143.infoserve.net [199.175.157.143]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA23554 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 20:36:10 -0800 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 20:36:10 -0800 Message-Id: <199602210436.UAA23554@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Kats going off air? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >IMPORTANT KAT STUFF: > > You bring up an interesting point, and we will forward your letter to our >Programming Department, as I'm sure they would be interested in reading your >comments. Who knows? Perhaps they'll get to work on more cat programming. > As for Speed Racer--it is true that he will be taking over the SWAT Kats >timeslot, but unfortunately we don't yet have information on what the fate of >the Kats will be. > We don't know why the episodes shown here on Cartoon Network differ from >those that were shown on TBS. We'll try to get an answer for you. If you >write back toward the end of the week, hopefully we'll have the information >then. This is pretty good, huh? They used to take weeks to answer such things, and now they seem to have settled on next-day service. I think I'll send them the title and production number to the SKIQ thing in the hopes that they'll call Tedco and track it down for airing in rotation with the other 23. Yeah...fine idea. Done. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Feb 21 00:56:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA04096 for kats-ll; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 00:30:11 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA04090 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 00:30:08 -0500 From: max@maxie.com Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA04701 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 00:29:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 00:29:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199602210529.AAA04701@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Kat Decency Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 08:32 PM 2/20/96 -0800, you wrote: >to track down such a frame if it could be ballparked a bit closer. Actually, >what does Skaredy wear besides the occasional diving helmet and well-worn >Avery take? "Nothing" comes to mind, but I'll have to go look. The very Kat in question. I'm working from memory here, but after examining other frames in the same set, I believe the episode is "THE GHOST PILOT". Chance is watching tv while they work out, and I seem to remember the news coming on after that. As for ballparking the frame, I put a quick convert JPG of it on my server. It's not on the image page since I didn't take time to clean it up. but if you want it, use: http://www.maxie.com/pub/swatkats/images/sk15_06.jpg Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Feb 21 14:08:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA24312 for kats-ll; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 13:34:43 -0500 Received: from PICA.ARMY.MIL (octavius.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.111]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA24297 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 13:34:18 -0500 Received: by octavius.pica.army.mil id aa06823; 21 Feb 96 13:30 EST Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 13:27:44 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Kat Decency Message-ID: <9602211327.aa06820@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I was thinking about this today and wondering if anyone else had given it >any thought... I think the word you want is "modesty". >We have always seen the Kats clothed, but is it acceptable in thier society >to not wear anything at all? Given that it's acceptable in ours, under limited circumstances, and given that our clothing in most cases derived from a need for protection from the elements, which Kats having fur don't need as much, I'd say it's acceptable in their society. Not all the time, but moreso than ours. In addition to protection from the elements and modesty, clothing also serves to denote status. Ferinstance, as a professional I have to wear this silly useless noose around my neck. Some call it a "tie". Additionally, clothing is used to project an image. So Kats wear clothes for many of the same reason hy00mans do, but the "protection from the elements" aspect is not as important. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Feb 21 15:42:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA03438 for kats-ll; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 15:15:03 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA03425 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 15:15:00 -0500 Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA06436 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 15:14:28 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 15:14:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199602212014.PAA06436@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: Kat Decency Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 01:27 PM 2/21/96 EST, you wrote: >I think the word you want is "modesty". No, I don't this would directly apply to the question at hand. Modesty is more of the feelings of an individual than society as a whole, a modest Kat might desire to "cover up", but what if he felt otherwise? Would it be considered acceptable for him to stroll around MegaKat city unclothed? In most parts of the human world, it would not be (for a human, that is), and that attitude is reflected in our cartoons. The Swat Kats favoriate Kat cartoon character, though, generally wears nothing at all. Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Feb 21 16:54:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA07691 for kats-ll; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:05:43 -0500 Received: from PICA.ARMY.MIL (octavius.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.111]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA07685 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:05:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 15:59:31 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Kat Decency Message-ID: <9602211559.aa07068@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>I think the word you want is "modesty". >No, I don't this would directly apply to the question at hand. Modesty is >more of the feelings of an individual than society as a whole, a modest Kat >might desire to "cover up", but what if he felt otherwise? Would it be >considered acceptable for him to stroll around MegaKat city unclothed? In >most parts of the human world, it would not be (for a human, that is), and >that attitude is reflected in our cartoons. The Swat Kats favoriate Kat >cartoon character, though, generally wears nothing at all. Well "modesty" is typically a societal norm rather than an individual thing, and "decency" reflects the individual's adherence (or lack thereof!) to that norm. Modesty also has a definition that applies to individuals, but here I'm using it in the "group" sense. For instance, in the US customs of modesty dictate that at least some clothing be worn when in public (apart from nudist areas). An individual appearing completely unclothed is deemed to be indecent. Whereas in other cultures, particularly among certain aboriginal peoples in tropical areas, full nudity is an acceptable mode of (un)dress, that is, there is no standard of modesty, such an individual would not be "indecent". In such a society, a more modest (in the individual sense) individual may wear clothing, but he or she would be exceeding the modesty (group sense) of that society. Getting back to the Kats, clothing may not be needed for environmental reasons, but in that highly civilized society, the appearance/status function of clothing does apply, so I think it would be highly unlikely that typical Kats would be walking down the street sans clothing. I do think that atypical individuals, such as the homeless, could exist without clothing and not violate possible legal modesty standards, though it would likely be frowned upon. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Feb 21 17:36:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA12596 for kats-ll; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:13:28 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA12591 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:13:18 -0500 Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.3/merit-2.0) with SMTP id RAA19110 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:13:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa16014; 21 Feb 96 17:16 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <312BC344@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Wed, 21 Feb 96 17:13:40 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: Kats list Subject: RE: Kats at Toy Fair Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 17:13:00 PST Message-ID: <312BC344@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 22 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Anyway, Gordy Toy has retained the SK license, and still offers their full >SK product line: >Flash Gun, Sunglasses, Handcuffs, Flying Props, Action Set, Bubble >Blaster, Karate Punch Game, Glider Launcher, Binocular >They also had four different molded case watches: >Both Kats, T-Bone, Razor, TurboKat Any word on if these items are just being offered to buyers (i.e. toy stores), or to the public? I've collected a few of the items (not all from Gordy), but haven't been able to find any watches or the other items in the list. >TedCo is _very_ aggressively pushing Jonny Quest as a licensed property. Uh, Ted? Give it up man! It's a losing battle! -Matt mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Feb 21 17:45:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA13034 for kats-ll; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:23:42 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA13019 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:23:26 -0500 Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.3/merit-2.0) with SMTP id RAA19393 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:23:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa16038; 21 Feb 96 17:26 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <312BC586@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Wed, 21 Feb 96 17:23:18 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: Kats list Subject: Re: Kat Decency Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 17:22:00 PST Message-ID: <312BC586@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 10 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >given that our clothing in most cases derived from a need for >protection from the elements, which Kats having fur don't need as >much, I'd say it's acceptable in their society. Heh. You'd think that with all the villians/monsters running around town, everyone would be wearing camoflauged bullett proof vests & helmets! ;) -Matt mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Feb 21 18:22:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA16366 for kats-ll; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:56:04 -0500 Received: from PICA.ARMY.MIL (octavius.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.111]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA16359 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:56:01 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 17:50:15 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Gordy Toys Kat-alog Message-ID: <9602211750.aa07346@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I have a copy of the Gordy Toys catalog, which has a full page on their SK toy line, as well as some stuff on the SK watches. It's free to the first person who requests it. LMK. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Feb 21 18:32:03 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA16364 for kats-ll; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:56:03 -0500 Received: from PICA.ARMY.MIL (octavius.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.111]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA16354 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:56:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 17:48:44 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Kats at Toy Fair Message-ID: <9602211748.aa07341@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Anyway, Gordy Toy has retained the SK license, and still offers their full >>SK product line: > >>Flash Gun, Sunglasses, Handcuffs, Flying Props, Action Set, Bubble >>Blaster, Karate Punch Game, Glider Launcher, Binocular > >>They also had four different molded case watches: > >>Both Kats, T-Bone, Razor, TurboKat > >Any word on if these items are just being offered to buyers (i.e. toy >stores), or to the public? I've collected a few of the items (not all from >Gordy), but haven't been able to find any watches or the other items in the >list. Gordy was offering the complete line for sale, so presumably they're still available. The problem is that the stores aren't buying the line, no doubt because it's not on the air. FWIW, I only found the Flash Gun at the PathMark supermarket where I shop; they still have quite a few. While I was masquerading as a buyer, I can't follow through :) And as the items are all sold with a minimum of six dozen per, I don't know how one might get a retailer to special order them. I just checked the catalog, BTW, and everything is available. >>TedCo is _very_ aggressively pushing Jonny Quest as a licensed property. > >Uh, Ted? Give it up man! It's a losing battle! One article said that TedCo is putting about $40 million into the marketing campaign, and is giving JQ the same effort as a major theatrical film. Talk about misguided. Sigh... Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Feb 22 06:06:50 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id FAA11663 for kats-ll; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 05:58:47 -0500 Received: from [164.67.20.188] (ts24-6.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.20.211]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id FAA11658 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 05:58:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 05:58:36 -0500 X-Sender: rat1@bort.mv.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: Re: Kat decency (and other Kat stuff) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hmm... all of this talk about Kat decency, particularly lately, has had me wondering if the subject was at least partially brought up because of the recent passage of the Communications Decency Act. For those of you who don't know what it does (especially if you live outside the U.S.), it makes the electronic distribution of sexually explicit material to minors illegal. Sites that participate in such activity can be shut down. (Wonder how such an act would hold in Megakat City, eh? ;-) Why is Skaredy Kat nude and not the citizens of Megakat City? My answer is that Skaredy Kat's a toon, much like Tom of Tom & Jerry. Neither Skaredy nor Tom need to wear clothes, and they can both withstand -- more or less -- forms of abuse that would normally kill, maim or disfigure people, such as having bombs explode in their faces. Kats, on the other hand, are more like us -- they're much more prone to being injured or killed by a similar incident. (Imagine, for example, if the Oklahoma City bombing were to take place in Megakat City. The casualty count would probably be the same.) Okay, enough of that (toon clothing's been discussed to death on another mailing list I'm on). On to some listmail replies... Max comments on my query about Megakat City's building code (or lack thereof): > Considering large parts of the city are being constantly destroyed, > yet we seldom see any construction going on, they're throwing > buildings back up so fast that they couldn't be taking the time to > do it right. That or all the building are built by the same Kats > that make helicopters for the enforcers. Or Mayor Manx is diverting a lot of the city's money to his own projects (improvement of Megakat Springs Golf Course or reconstruction of Megakat Towers, etc.) that the city can't afford anything *but* shoddy construction and workmanship. Interestingly enough, we haven't seen the city get hit with any *natural* disasters, such as extensive flooding, earthquakes and so on. Neither has it been hit with any riots (citizens fleeing in panic don't count). > Besides, can anyone picture Feral checking building permits? Feral? Naah... he'd delegate it to either Felina or Lieutenant Steel(e). I'm revising a few of the Kats' web pages. In a few days or so I'll be adding pages for Commander Feral, Felina Feral, Mayor Manx and Deputy Mayor Briggs. If anyone has some good-quality scans of all of these characters by themselves, let me know (I'm planning on adding thumbnails of these characters to their respective web pages, like I did for T-Bone and Razor). Also in the works: I'll be updating the FAQ shortly. A new version should be on rat.org within a few hours of this listmail posting. -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia "I was raised to always offer my seat to a lady..." -- Razor From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Feb 22 11:34:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA01919 for kats-ll; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:07:32 -0500 Received: from PICA.ARMY.MIL (octavius.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.111]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA01914 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:07:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 11:07:31 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Kat decency (and other Kat stuff) Message-ID: <9602221107.aa07847@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Why is Skaredy Kat nude and not the citizens of Megakat City? My answer is >that Skaredy Kat's a toon, much like Tom of Tom & Jerry. Neither Skaredy >nor Tom need to wear clothes, and they can both withstand -- more or less >-- forms of abuse that would normally kill, maim or disfigure people, such >as having bombs explode in their faces. Kats, on the other hand, are more But the problem is that Skaredy Kat is a Kat, rather than some other species. If he was of some other species the question would have never arisen. The analogy is that naked humans are generally not acceptable in mainstream 'toons, apart from a few enlightened countries. >Max comments on my query about Megakat City's building code (or lack thereof): >> Considering large parts of the city are being constantly destroyed, >> yet we seldom see any construction going on, they're throwing >> buildings back up so fast that they couldn't be taking the time to >> do it right. That or all the building are built by the same Kats >> that make helicopters for the enforcers. > >Or Mayor Manx is diverting a lot of the city's money to his own projects >(improvement of Megakat Springs Golf Course or reconstruction of Megakat >Towers, etc.) that the city can't afford anything *but* shoddy construction >and workmanship. Or the Kat Mob has their fingers in the construction pie, just like we have here :( >Interestingly enough, we haven't seen the city get hit with any *natural* >disasters, such as extensive flooding, earthquakes and so on. Neither has >it been hit with any riots (citizens fleeing in panic don't count). Not having seen all the eps :( :( :(, I ask: were there any eps with totally conventional villains, that is villains without super powers or hardware? >> Besides, can anyone picture Feral checking building permits? > >Feral? Naah... he'd delegate it to either Felina or Lieutenant Steel(e). None of the above. More likely there is a Housing Department in City Hall which has its own flunkies for that. The Enforcers have far better things to do. Well, sometimes :) Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Feb 22 11:59:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA02558 for kats-ll; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:24:27 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA02553 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:24:24 -0500 Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA08782 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:23:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:23:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199602221623.LAA08782@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: (and other Kat stuff) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 05:58 AM 2/22/96 -0500, Razor wrote: >Or Mayor Manx is diverting a lot of the city's money to his own projects >(improvement of Megakat Springs Golf Course or reconstruction of Megakat >Towers, etc.) that the city can't afford anything *but* shoddy construction >and workmanship. Good point. Just how does he keep getting re-elected? Are the citizens that clueless about how he mismanages the city, or is it that he is the only one that runs in the elections? You see signs "Re-Elect Mayor Manx" all over the place, but I don't recall seeing one "Elect someone else". Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Feb 22 14:19:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA11566 for kats-ll; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:37:03 -0500 Received: from PICA.ARMY.MIL (octavius.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.111]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA11559 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:37:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:36:50 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: (and other Kat stuff) Message-ID: <9602221336.aa08089@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Or Mayor Manx is diverting a lot of the city's money to his own projects >>(improvement of Megakat Springs Golf Course or reconstruction of Megakat >>Towers, etc.) that the city can't afford anything *but* shoddy construction >>and workmanship. >Good point. Just how does he keep getting re-elected? Are the citizens that >clueless about how he mismanages the city, or is it that he is the only one >that runs in the elections? You see signs "Re-Elect Mayor Manx" all over the >place, but I don't recall seeing one "Elect someone else". Those of us from northeast NJ are familiar with the Democratic machine controlled towns in Hudson and southeast Bergen counties, where putting up a sign for a Republican candidate will get you a visit from a high-ranking police official, who will ask you to consider removing the "eyesore". And Manx may just as well be able to pull off enough good things to keep getting re-elected. Few of the crises we see on SK can be directly attributed to him, and I suspect they don't happen nearly as often as we see on the show - I seem to recall that when the old show "S.W.A.T." was on TV a real LA-area SWATtie commented that the guys on the show see more action in a week than his guys do in several months (though that may have changed recently :). Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Feb 22 15:03:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA15699 for kats-ll; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:35:08 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA15639 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:33:45 -0500 Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA09179 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:33:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:33:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199602221933.OAA09179@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: (and other Kat stuff) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 01:36 PM 2/22/96 EST, you wrote: >And Manx may just as well be able to pull off enough good things to >keep getting re-elected. I suspect also we see a lot more of him than his campaign department allows the citizens of MegaKat city to see... Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Feb 22 16:08:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA20315 for kats-ll; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 15:30:52 -0500 Received: from ix7.ix.netcom.com (ix7.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.7]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA20310 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 15:30:49 -0500 Received: from Miles' World by ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id MAA13736; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:30:16 -0800 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:30:16 -0800 Message-Id: <199602222030.MAA13736@ix7.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: danramos@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Dan Ramos Subject: Re: (and other Kat stuff) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 11:23 AM 2/22/96 -0500, you wrote: >At 05:58 AM 2/22/96 -0500, Razor wrote: >>Or Mayor Manx is diverting a lot of the city's money to his own projects >>(improvement of Megakat Springs Golf Course or reconstruction of Megakat >>Towers, etc.) that the city can't afford anything *but* shoddy construction >>and workmanship. >Good point. Just how does he keep getting re-elected? Are the citizens that >clueless about how he mismanages the city, or is it that he is the only one >that runs in the elections? You see signs "Re-Elect Mayor Manx" all over the >place, but I don't recall seeing one "Elect someone else". > They prolly all wanna keep watchin' their POPULAR Major on some kinda famous golfing show on TV ersumjunk. :) heheh... kinda like Nixon doin' all those LAFF-IN cameos in RL. :) Wonder if Mayor Manx isn't mebbe bein' KEPT there by someone who keeps trying to promote him to keep things goin' the way they are? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Feb 22 20:17:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA11455 for kats-ll; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 19:59:26 -0500 Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA11450 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 19:59:22 -0500 Received: from tole-cs-5.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-5.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.105]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.3/CICNet) with SMTP id TAA28898 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 19:52:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 19:52:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199602230052.TAA28898@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: The End ?!? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Just saw a promo today that Speed Racer is going to be showing in the time slot that Kats is now, starting in March. Has anyone heard of where/if Kats is going? --------------------- Paul Kemner | "Many people appear to imagine that they cannot Toledo, Ohio | afford to have artistic surroundings, whereas pkemner@bright.net | the wonder is that they can afford so much --------------------- expensive ugliness." M. H. Baillie Scott From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Feb 22 21:54:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA16728 for kats-ll; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 21:18:54 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA16721 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 21:18:49 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA19588 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 21:10:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 21:08:24 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.01862274.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Need dialogue for SK promo Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I heard about the SWAT Kat commercial with the interview who jumps on the Turbokat. Can anyone who has a copy of the tape write down the dialogue and send it to me? Thanks a lot. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 23 08:00:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id HAA29405 for kats-ll; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 07:37:05 -0500 Received: from desiree.teleport.com (desiree.teleport.com [192.108.254.21]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA29400 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 07:37:02 -0500 Received: from teleport.com ([204.119.17.50]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id EAA11006 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 04:37:00 -0800 Message-Id: <199602231237.EAA11006@desiree.teleport.com> Subject: elect Mayor Manx To: kats@bort.mv.net In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:23:43 EST. <199602221623.LAA08782@underdog.maxie.com> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 04:37:24 -0800 From: Felix Lee Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Good point. Just how does he keep getting re-elected? Are the citizens that > clueless about how he mismanages the city, or is it that he is the only one > that runs in the elections? You see signs "Re-Elect Mayor Manx" all over the he has good help (Callie). plus he's got decent political savvy, good presence, and doesn't need handlers to direct his public appearances (unlike some members of the US congress). compare, from an article "The Ten Most Dimwitted Members of Congress" by Ken Silverstein. No. 3 - Senator Larry Pressler - South Dakota (1978) Most recently noted for his attacks on public broadcasting, Pressler, the only Senator to make the list, is considered to be a hopeless nitwit by virtually all of his colleagues. Ted Kennedy once asked a former Senatorial colleague of Pressler, "Has he had a lobotomy?" South Dakota's other senator, Thomas Daschle, said of Pressler, "A Senate seat is a terrible thing to waste." Pressler has had repeated difficulties with closets. On one occasion he fell asleep in one and arrived late to an important hearing. In another incident he rose from a meeting with colleagues in the Commerce Committee and mistook a closet door for the exit. He realized his mistake but apparently thought the best strategy would be to wait to emerge until everyone else left the room, a tactic that failed when his companions decided to wait him out. Pressler has sponsored virtually no important legislation during his two decades in Washington, a fact he seeks to obscure by issuing frequent press releases touting his meager achievements. One example: "New York Times Carries Pressler Drought Letter." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 23 10:28:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA11413 for kats-ll; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 10:17:15 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA11395 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 10:17:11 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d142.infoserve.net [199.175.157.142]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA04659 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 07:32:53 -0800 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 07:32:53 -0800 Message-Id: <199602231532.HAA04659@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Kats stays on the air! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net ***Repost*** (I don't simply like hearing the sound of my own voice - it appears a lot of folks didn't get it the first time around) From: The Cartoon Network Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 11:08:14 -0500 To: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Kats going off air? Dear Andy: It's true that Speed Racer is replacing Swat Kats' Monday - Friday 5:30 pm time slot. Swat Kats will still air on Saturdays at 2pm Eastern Time. This schedule is effective March 4th. The schedule will change again in June and the Swat Kats may go back into their regular schedule. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 23 10:43:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA11414 for kats-ll; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 10:17:16 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA11396 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 10:17:11 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d142.infoserve.net [199.175.157.142]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA04662 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 07:32:57 -0800 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 07:32:57 -0800 Message-Id: <199602231532.HAA04662@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: A SWAT Kats' month? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > E-Mailing Ted himself is better, though, >since it was probably the one who did it. Hey, Mabye it wasn't him, One of the things I'd heard early on was "...(Ted) always hated the program". I won't claim that to be true - there's no way to back it up. >considering all the confusion, Tedco might have stopped the series from >production by mistake. It looks as though nobody cares about H-B anymore, and that the "Jonny" thing is going forward simply because they were in bed too far already with the licensees to bail. One of the production people that hangs on rec.arts tells me that "Turner was never really that interested in new H-B production, he just wanted the back catalogue. They just kept the studio operating because they thought it more valuable as a going concern". Sounds about right, and indicative of an attitude change that a lot of folks noticed around the time the Kats and Two Stupid Dogs were canned. They can get eight or so WPT's for the price of a single katsep - keeping the studio "a going concern" without any regard for where it's "going". If this is true, then I didn't write "A Tribute to >Ted Turner by B-ko Daitokuji" Even though it is at the end of one of my >other fanfics! Yeah, yeah...trying to get out of it, are we? Ted doesn't hold a grudge - especially during his Olympic year - but I did notice a "Ryan Kelley" listed as front-runner in the javelin-catching competition. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 23 17:53:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA12797 for kats-ll; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 17:15:50 -0500 Received: from www.genphysics.com (www.genphysics.com [206.215.35.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA12792 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 17:15:47 -0500 Received: from mailgate.genphysics.com (206.215.35.6) by www.genphysics.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.60) with SMTP id ; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 17:15:30 -0500 Received: by mailgate.genphysics.com with Microsoft Mail id <312E3C77@mailgate.genphysics.com>; Fri, 23 Feb 96 17:15:19 EST From: "Roberts, Steve" To: "'Kats List'" Subject: Kat's Alive Date: Fri, 23 Feb 96 17:16:00 EST Message-ID: <312E3C77@mailgate.genphysics.com> Encoding: 13 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >From the FAQ: >- A fanzine, KAT'S ALIVE, is also in the works and will be available >for a limited run (contact Timothy Fay [fayxx001@maroon.tc.unm.edu] for >details). Just tried to E-mail Tim to check on the status of the Fanzine, but the E-mail fails. Does anyone know if he's still out there and/or what's happening with Kat's Alive? I kinda expect Tim has headed off to MegaKat City. Steve From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 23 18:22:52 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA12349 for kats-ll; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 17:06:12 -0500 Received: from [164.67.20.118] (ts39-6.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.115]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA12334 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 17:05:59 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 17:05:59 -0500 X-Sender: rat1@bort.mv.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: Kat stuff Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net A few quick comments on Manx's stay in office: Why doesn't he have any opponents? Good question. Sometimes I wonder if Callie Briggs would win if she ran against him. I'm sure she'd get at least *two* votes, and perhaps under her leadership more things would actually get done in the city. As it is, she's probably the main reason City Hall hasn't fallen. Far be it from me to get into politics (well, heavily into it, anyway) here, but on second thought it's not very hard to see why Manx remains in office as long as he does. In Honolulu, Hawaii, the same mayor held office for something like 12 years or so (with one 4-year break when he was actually defeated). He had to resign to run for governor under a recently passed state law (and yes, he was rather bitter about it, too). Dan writes: > Wonder if Mayor Manx isn't mebbe bein' KEPT there by someone who keeps > trying to promote him to keep things goin' the way they are? Well, who would that be, hmm? Feral, maybe? (And I'm talking about the Commander here, not Felina.) On another subject, Ed writes: > But the problem is that Skaredy Kat is a Kat, rather than some other > species. If he was of some other species the question would have > never arisen. The analogy is that naked humans are generally not > acceptable in mainstream 'toons, apart from a few enlightened > countries. Is Skaredy Kat a Kat per se, or a 'toon Kat (or cat)? For those of you who might be getting confused by the difference between cats and Kats (and perhaps this should also go in the FAQ), a Kat is, as Doc Conway was kind enough to define for me, "an anthropomorphized feline who hails from a society that is slightly more technologically advanced than our own." -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia "I was raised to always offer my seat to a lady..." -- Razor From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 23 22:28:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA02264 for kats-ll; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 22:12:07 -0500 Received: from ix13.ix.netcom.com (ix13.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.13]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA02257 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 22:12:03 -0500 Received: from miles--world by ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id TAA07163; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:11:30 -0800 Message-ID: <312E8290.2BE1@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 22:14:24 -0500 From: Dan Ramos X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Kat stuff References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Razor wrote: > > Dan writes: > > Wonder if Mayor Manx isn't mebbe bein' KEPT there by someone who keeps > > trying to promote him to keep things goin' the way they are? > > Well, who would that be, hmm? Feral, maybe? (And I'm talking about the > Commander here, not Felina.) I dunno, Feral doesn't seem the type. He seems aweful set in things being orderly and being done RIGHT. I also don't think he'd believe in getting involved in politics. Just my opinion of his persona. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 24 22:09:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA29913 for kats-ll; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 22:03:20 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com ([199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA29908 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 22:03:15 -0500 Received: from bossrkf3.bossnt.com (bossrkf2.bossnt.com [198.150.207.42]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA15591 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 22:01:34 -0500 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 22:01:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199602250301.WAA15591@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: peej@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Peejster Subject: Triangles Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net If the triangles are pink, could that mean T-Bone and Razor are living an 'alternate' lifestyle in the Kat universe? After all, there are many similarities between our world and the Kats' world. Peejster From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 24 22:23:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA29834 for kats-ll; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 22:00:32 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA29829 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 22:00:30 -0500 Received: from sl6.redding.snowcrest.net (sl6.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.70]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA01550 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 19:06:48 -0800 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 19:06:48 -0800 Message-Id: <199602250306.TAA01550@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: B-ko Daitokuji Subject: Re: Think about it... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Hmmmm....could it be the infamous 'cartoon physics?' Ahhh, the wonders of >the cartoon world! (Sorry, end-of-vacation depression. I'll be myself again >tomorrow. Promise!) > Yeah, but cartoon physics could be anything from real life physics to vomiting twice your body weight, so who knows? Cartoon physics is declining, however. From denying death (Cyote and Roadrunner come to mind in a big way) to now. Now, it states that all, and I mean all humans on the face of this earth live in places so gross, that even cockroaches won't live there, and vomiting and other gross (PG-13 rated) body functions occur as often and as everyday as breathing! What's going on, here??? Did Tedco forget to look out the window or something? > >Terra Chang, >fan of a buncha stuff, Extremist of SWAT Kats >nice person (really, I am! Most of the time!) possable nice person (undecided! really!!) >totally crazy. naturally crazy. Got a problem with it? Don't worry, I'll take it as a compliment! Gee, I really am crazy! > >"We protest you calling us little kids! We prefer to be called 'vertically >impaired pre-adults'." > -Yakko Warner Well, I'm simply a mentally impaired SWAT Kat extremist who someday wished to be an adult, so there! (Look it up in the dictionairy and there's a picture of me!, only you need the dictionairy that I put my picture in!) _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 24 22:23:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA29826 for kats-ll; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 22:00:27 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA29821 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 22:00:24 -0500 Received: from sl6.redding.snowcrest.net (sl6.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.70]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA01543 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 19:06:41 -0800 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 19:06:41 -0800 Message-Id: <199602250306.TAA01543@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: B-ko Daitokuji Subject: Re: Um...this 'forward' gets some extra comments... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >(Here's the forwarded part ">") Wow! Here's your forwarded stuff. You see, the more ">"'s there are, the more times It's been quoted, when sometimes not necesary (I myself used to do this, of course, to an extreme.) >>Due to a school Internet agreement, I cannot use My real name, so therefore, >>I am now changing my name to Grand Admiral Thrawn. Sorry, but one of the >>people in charge of making sure that nothing gets screwed up or that pervs >>don't send us kiddie-porn-type-crud. Well, I am still trying to get Ted >>Turner's E-Mail address. Why uugghh? Getting his E-Mail address would be the best thing ever! >> Also, I am doing something (nothing that >>will get the Feds on my case) involving ToonNet@AOL.COM (Hah!!!! Have fun >>trying to figure out what that will be!) Don't worry, I'll make him spill it, then I'll tell (If I'm feeling especially cruel, of course!). > >...and here's my pre-emptive editorial. > Huh? >Dude, Toonnet@aol.com represents the Cartoon Network. I've talked with the >Cartoon Network - they're on our side - Uh, huh, right! Well, mabye..... > and would like nothing better than >more katseps to run beyond the completed 24. WAHT'S IT'S NAME???????????????? > Unfortunately, Turner is set up >so that the slowest form of communication occurs horizontally, so Cartoon Network's >lines of communication to the rest of the Turner Empire are actually *worse* than >ours to the Turner Empire. Well, who'se in charge of the corperation. What else would wou expect (insert evil grin!). > Scary, isn't it? No, very hopefull! Mabye we can get closer than TCN (and yes, I DIDN'T knock it [again]) > For instance, Cartoon Network started >receiving a ton of katmail at that there "toonnet" address, and someone there >started making enquiries of the Turner chain-of-command as to why such an >obviously popular show was canned in favour of relative drivel. Turner took a few >days, then one of the suits in the heirarchy came up with "ratings". In reality, the >answer should've been "Pirates of Dark Water"; the same type of mismanagement >was responsible for the clueless behaviour witnessed in either sorry spectacle. > So you're saying, we're beginning to make a dent here? That's good. We should all persist on this. Once it dies, who knows what might happen (more WPT's YUK!) >The labyrinth of the Turner organization is designed so that it's impossible to >simply pick up the phone, dial someone in the Atlanta Pentagon, and actually >get connected to someone willing to take responsibility for something. Many >have tried both within and without. > Another reason America is so screwed up today. It's not teens, it's people like Ted Making bad choices blaming it on the younger generation. Any comments? > All of that can still be considered >"positive", but adding juvenile internet parlor tricks to up the ante and spam addresses >setup for fan feedback is not acceptable behaviour, is utterly counterproductive, and >won't be cheered on the sidelines by any of the katfans I know. You don't know me very well. Whatever works to a posative goal toward SWAT Kats, you'll se me doing! >Turner screwed up big with public-relations on this whole Kat-thing, but we don't >need to press the big "down" button to descend to the same level, do we? It dosn't matter to me. If I have to a level lower to reach what I want, I'll do it. Remember, some people do get vicious when it comes to SWAT Kats (or Anti-SWAT Kats mainly from my freinds [soon to be seen otherwise]). _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 24 22:56:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA00825 for kats-ll; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 22:41:25 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA00820 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 22:41:23 -0500 Received: from sl6.redding.snowcrest.net (sl13.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.77]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA02986 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 19:47:45 -0800 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 19:47:45 -0800 Message-Id: <199602250347.TAA02986@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: B-ko Daitokuji Subject: Jonny Quest and the stupidity of TedCo Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >TedCo is _very_ aggressively pushing Jonny Quest as a licensed property. > Oh, you're telling me! I was channel surfing a few times, saw something animeish and found it was that stupid movie! Man!! And I don't even watch that channel! I wonder how many times this stupid thing has been shown. I've counted four in one week (I think). No wonder SWAT Kats is in the gutter! > > >Ed > > _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 24 23:07:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA00643 for kats-ll; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 22:35:13 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA00638 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 22:35:11 -0500 Received: from sl6.redding.snowcrest.net (sl13.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.77]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA02818 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 19:41:28 -0800 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 19:41:28 -0800 Message-Id: <199602250341.TAA02818@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: B-ko Daitokuji Subject: What was your first SWAT Kats Ep? was Um...this 'forward' gets some extra comments... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Oh yeah everybody, what is your first SwatKats episode? > >First for moi was, I think, "The Giant Bacteria". > "The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice" was mine. Really gave a pretty good overture if that episode was the first you'd ever seen. I'm trying to get another one of my friends into the show. I think "Cry Turmoil" would be a good one for her to see next (since she watched the first five minutes of "The Giant Bacteria", including the opening intro and a few minutes of ads). Since she likes Batman, and Cry Trumoil is a lot like Batman (Is there one even closer to Batman that would work better?), I might be able force her to watch the whole thing. Any ideas that might help me to get her to into the series? I think first, I'll put the exact "Cry Turmoil" story and fit Batman around it, then go from there. If we get enough supporters, we might be able to bring back this (Rant rave) cool show. I'll do twice my part, anyway. _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 24 23:14:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA03058 for kats-ll; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 22:50:30 -0500 Received: from you.got.net (you.got.net [205.199.112.9]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA03053 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 22:50:28 -0500 Received: from lsetnor (lsetnor.got.net [205.199.119.206]) by you.got.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA00297 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 21:19:47 -0800 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 21:19:47 -0800 Message-Id: <199602250519.VAA00297@you.got.net> X-Sender: lsetnor@mail.got.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: lsetnor@got.net (Leslie Setnor) Subject: Color blindess (was about triangle stuff) X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Somebody brought up that cats are colorblind. Good thing kats aren't! Can you imagine the Turbokat in spring green and pink? Or T-Bone and Razor in sky blue uniforms? Karen Setnor lsetnor@got.net mcjd61b@prodigy.com From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 24 23:22:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA03494 for kats-ll; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 23:14:42 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA03489 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 23:14:39 -0500 Received: from sl6.redding.snowcrest.net (sl13.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.77]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA04065 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:21:01 -0800 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:21:01 -0800 Message-Id: <199602250421.UAA04065@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: B-ko Daitokuji Subject: Re: Kat Decency Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I was thinking about this today and wondering if anyone else had given it >any thought... > With B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji around, there always will be a comment (Ugh! I act like Feral without even trying!) >We have always seen the Kats clothed, but is it acceptable in thier society >to not wear anything at all? > I think that in the Kat's universe, a nude kat is the same as a nude human. >Before anyone says "Say What?!" I'll explain what brought this on. I was >going through video frames today to put some more online, and I ran accross >one of Jake and Razor Jake and Razor are the same guy, tecnacly (however spelt) and T-Bone and Chance are the same guy, tecnacly. I have never understood exactly the Kat's transformation from, calm and assertave to steatly and aggressave. Oh well. I go from calm and passave to hyper and out of control if I don't get enough sleep. >watching a cartoon with a nude Kat in it.(Before you >ask, I don't know which show it was from) I think it was either "Giant Bacteria", "Ghost pilot", or "The Wrath of Dark Kat". One of the three. Since I study the SWAT Kats, (watch episodes fifty times in succession), and learn about 40% faster than most (usually in one ear and out the other and something sticks at the back of my mind), I remember this too. >Now, nude Kats (or cats) are perfectly acceptable in cartoons in OUR world, Right (tounge roll on the "R"). Nude cats, yes, nude kats, no (I speak out of past trauma and excperiance) >but a cartoon with a nude human generally would not be. How does all this apply in to the Kats Universe? Same as our world. I'll have to review my tapes here (If this kat was a guy [and I think it is], could this mean that the SWAT Kats are gay [UGH! SOMEBODY HELP ME! I'M THINKING TED THOUGHTS!!!!!!!!]) > > Max > _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Feb 24 23:37:48 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA03679 for kats-ll; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 23:27:45 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA03674 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 23:27:43 -0500 Received: from sl6.redding.snowcrest.net (sl13.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.77]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA04470 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:34:05 -0800 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:34:05 -0800 Message-Id: <199602250434.UAA04470@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: B-ko Daitokuji Subject: Re: Kat Decency Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > a modest Kat >might desire to "cover up", but what if he felt otherwise? Would it be >considered acceptable for him to stroll around MegaKat city unclothed? >From personal experiance, uh, probably not, unless it's in a nuddist colony. >In >most parts of the human world, it would not be (for a human, that is), and >that attitude is reflected in our cartoons. The Swat Kats favoriate Kat >cartoon character, though, generally wears nothing at all. > This is really a provoking thought. My recources say that the SWAT Kats ar "Bi", but I think my scources for my resources are "Bi" so I don't know what to beleive! Uh, mabye I'd better shut up here. > Max Did I say that my name was B-ko? No! I'm A-ko impersonating A-ko! Yeah! Get mad at A-ko if you're gonna get mad! Uh........ bye _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 00:05:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA04922 for kats-ll; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 23:47:15 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA04878 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 23:47:06 -0500 Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA15930 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 23:45:31 -0500 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 23:45:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199602250445.XAA15930@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: Kat Decency Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 08:21 PM 2/24/96 -0800, you wrote: >I have never understood exactly the Kat's transformation from, calm and >assertave to steatly and aggressave. Oh well. That one is pretty easy to answer. As I or anyone else that has frequently played role based games can tell you, after a while it is possible to completely shift into a character you have created without really having to think about it, even if the personality is totally different. The difference in this case, of course, is the Swat Kats aren't playing. :-) Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 03:10:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA22530 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 02:57:32 -0500 Received: from [164.67.20.81] (ts16-4.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.20.81]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA22521 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 02:57:23 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 02:57:23 -0500 X-Sender: rat1@bort.mv.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: My first SK episode (and other stuff)... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net My first ep of SK (that I actually *saw*) was "Destructive Nature." The first SK ep I taped was, I believe, "Bride of the Pastmaster," although I never did have a chance to see it. I can't be certain of the episode title since I evidently erased the episode later (I couldn't find it on any of the tapes that would have had it at the time). Now, of course, it's moot point since I have all 24 on tape. ;-) Re: Kat's Alive -- I've been told that Tim Fay unsubscribed from the list some time ago. I also lost the address to his web page in a hard disk crash, so I unfortunately have no way of contacting him at the moment except perhaps via the MUCKs (although I'll be spending less time there over the next few weeks while I concentrate on job-hunting). Dan comments on my comment about Feral being the one to keep Manx in office: > I dunno, Feral doesn't seem the type. He seems aweful set in things > being orderly and being done RIGHT. I also don't think he'd believe > in getting involved in politics. Just my opinion of his persona. Maybe not directly, but if Feral likes things to be done orderly and properly, then why couldn't he at least push for Manx to remain in office? Manx and Feral generally tend to support each other, tho Feral's ruffled Manx's fur a few times (and vice versa). Ryan "B-Ko/Snoopy" writes: > Cartoon physics could be anything from real life physics to > vomiting twice your body weight, so who knows? Cartoon physics > is declining, however. I'm not so sure about this. I agree with the first sentence (to a point), but I dunno about the second comment. I still maintain that Kats aren't 'toons per se, at least not in the sense of Skaredy Kat, for example. > From denying death (Cyote and Roadrunner come to mind in a big way) > to now. Fundamental Law of Cartoon Physics #1: Toons don't die. Thus, a murder attempt is foolish. (Of course, there are a few exceptions, but the toons themselves still return for more.) Thus, since Kats *do* die (and we've seen this in several episodes), they aren't toons. ;-) OTOH, Skaredy Kat can take such abuse as having a bomb planted right in his face and exploding, yet escape with only a charred face to remind him of the incident... which makes him a toon. And speaking of Skaredy Kat, I can only think of two episodes where he appears (I have to go back and watch the older eps to see if he appears in any others): "The Ghost Pilot" and "The Metallikats." I'm not sure if he appears in "Metal Urgency" or not (although I think he might). -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia "I was raised to always offer my seat to a lady..." -- Razor From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 11:42:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA18062 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:26:05 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA18057 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:26:01 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.38] (dyn1038.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.38]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA13103 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 23:27:15 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 23:24:07 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Color blindess. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Somebody brought up that cats are colorblind. Good thing kats aren't! I think I can imagine on how Ann Gora reporting for Katseye news in black and white. BTW, it seem that the kats have known television for a long time, when is the first television is invented in the kat planet? Hmmm, better ask Sinian about this. >Can you imagine the Turbokat in spring green and pink? How about yelllow and green sky? >Or T-Bone and Razor in sky blue uniforms? How about in a purple suit? >Karen Setnor >lsetnor@got.net >mcjd61b@prodigy.com ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 11:48:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA18055 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:25:55 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA18043 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:25:52 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.38] (dyn1038.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.38]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA13087 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 23:27:01 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 23:23:51 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Jumping, running, and hitting. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Callie do that in "Katastrophe"? COOL!!!! I know that she can really do >>that, I got to see this episode. > >No, sorry to burst your bubble, but she did that in one of the Dark Kat >episodes, not "Katastrophe." (I can *NEVER* get the Dark Kat episodes >straight!! :p) I haven't watch "Katastrophe", so I didn't know a lot of thing that happen on "Katastrophe". >The one where Dark Kat and Hard Drive steal the Turbokat. I >*think* it was the other one, _*NOT*_ "Night of the Dark Kat". Dark Kat appears on these episodes below: "The Wrath of Dark Kat" Dark Kat build a doomsday device. "Razor's Edge" Dark Kat build a robotic spider. "Night of Dark Kat" cann't comment on this, I haven't watch this. "Katastrophe" cann't comment on this, I haven't watch this. >Terra Chang, ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 11:56:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA18050 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:25:53 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA18040 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:25:50 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.38] (dyn1038.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.38]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA13093 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 23:27:06 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 23:23:55 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Kat-things Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >A couple of miscellaneous Kat-things here: > >Saw "Razor's Edge" on the Cartoon Network today and noticed something -- is >it just me, or does Megakat City have a very lax building code? It appears >that just about anything can destroy the walls of buildings, even by simply >slamming someone hard against a wall. Er, Manx is the mayor, isn't he? BTW, what will happen if a runaway rocket crashing to all the building? >On the subject of teenage Kats: in "When Strikes Mutilor" you see what >would probably be the closest to teenage Kats (or at least college-age >ones) at Megakat State Beach. I think that they were college kids, probaly about the same age as Jake and Chance, but a little bit younger than Jake and Chance. >Of course, Kat age is a relative thing (we >don't know what the average lifespan of a Kat is, for example; tho judging >by all of the destruction that takes place in the city it probably isn't >very high ;-). Hmmm, kats mortality rate... I always wonder if the kats family is a big family or a small family, since that cats have a lots of kittens so that there will always be a descendant to continue their family line. >-- >=================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== > Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia >"I was raised to always offer my seat to a lady..." -- Razor ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 12:00:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA18157 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:32:08 -0500 Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA18149 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:32:06 -0500 Received: from tole-cs-1.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-1.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.101]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.4/CICNet) with SMTP id LAA05387 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:25:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:25:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199602251625.LAA05387@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Mayor Manx Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net One of the first times I was watching Kats, my wife came in & said "Hey- Manx cats don't have tails!" Well, I knew this, and apparently some other people on this list have noticed it as well. After extensive research I've discovered the secret- Manx has a tail toupee! Did it come from "Tail Club for Toms?" He knows that nobody will vote for a tailless kat. Just look at that tail- it's bigger & bushier that Callie's! That's why folks vote for him. (he wears a toupee on his head too - you can see it getting blown off of his head in several eps.) Anyway, this false tail throws off his balance- which is why he's not good at golf. (Don't you wonder why he's so bad, even though he spends every waking hour on his game?) The other reason he gets re-elected is for entertainment value. Here in T-Town, our mayor is "Carty Finkbeiner" (I kid you not!) He has regular tantrums, fires all his staff, blames & sacrifices staff for his silly ideas, and has gotten the city on national news for falling for old Galleger routines "Hey- lets put deaf people in those houses near the airport!" He's run as a Republican, Independant, AND Democrat (and you thought there was a difference!). Regular polls in the snoozpaper show that he will lose by a substantial margin to any of his former or future opponents, any fictional character from a comic strip, or to a randomly selected planarian! Yet we'll re-elect him by a wide margin. Paul Kemner pkemner@bright.net Toledo, OH From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 12:11:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA21009 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 12:03:35 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA21004 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 12:03:32 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA10099 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 09:20:37 -0800 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 09:20:37 -0800 Message-Id: <199602251720.JAA10099@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: $175,000.00 per ep? Rather spend it on Katfood... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>TedCo is _very_ aggressively pushing Jonny Quest as a licensed property. >> >Oh, you're telling me! I was channel surfing a few times, saw something >animeish and found it was that stupid movie! Man!! And I don't even watch >that channel! I wonder how many times this stupid thing has been shown. I've >counted four in one week (I think). No wonder SWAT Kats is in the gutter! The "stupid movie" was Mario Piluso's fault - he being the guy that took over "Pirates of Darkwater" to halve the budget, and managed to draw and quarter the quality instead; eventually prompting the overlords to can it as "we weren't able to maintain the quality". No da. Hanna-Barbera is spending 175K per episode getting the new "Jonny" done overseas (Disney is currently spending about 225K per ep), and I think some katseps must've come in at about 300K per. Ted's cheap, and the new programs reflect it. Great for the shareholders if you can get away with it, but kids aren't stupid, and those almost adults among us that recognized crap from the 70's don't have trouble recognizing it in the 90's, and neither do the kids we know. "Jonny" now has two ex-Kats hands driving the bus, but they still have to rely on Ted for the gas, and 9 million bucks worth has already evaporated through "spillage". Think how many katseps that would've bought! Ted could've had something to show for his investment aside from a few H-B calendars and some "Animation Magazine" pre-release press that's going to haunt them almost as badly as their 94 NATPE comments concerning Kats. Too bad the arrogant and self-absorbed seldom get embarrassed. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 13:30:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA24481 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 13:09:30 -0500 Received: from [164.67.21.206] (ts33-1.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.21.206]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA24475 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 13:09:18 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 13:09:18 -0500 X-Sender: rat1@bort.mv.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: A stray Kat thought... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net A couple of weeks or so there was a mini-TP (TinyPlot) on FurryMUCK where Razor gave Decker (another Kat looking somewhat like Razor, only with blue fur) "a little flea problem." (I'm sure Doc Conway and Simon Leet remember this incident fairly well.) As a result, I've occasionally wondered if flea infestations/epidemics been a recurring problem in Megakat City. (If not, it'd be an interesting plot device, at least.) Comments? -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia "I was raised to always offer my seat to a lady..." -- Razor From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 13:46:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA24916 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 13:29:35 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA24911 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 13:29:32 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.140] (dyn1140.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.140]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA16000 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 01:30:47 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 01:27:39 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Who is the loneliest? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Who is the loneliest character in the SwatKats universe? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 13:56:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA24908 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 13:29:30 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA24903 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 13:29:27 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.140] (dyn1140.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.140]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA15996 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 01:30:43 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 01:27:33 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Kat Decency Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Max wrote: >At 08:21 PM 2/24/96 -0800, B-Ko wrote: > >>I have never understood exactly the Kat's transformation from, calm and >>assertave to steatly and aggressave. Oh well. > >That one is pretty easy to answer. As I or anyone else that has frequently >played role based games can tell you, after a while it is possible to >completely shift into a character you have created without really having to >think about it, even if the personality is totally different. The difference >in this case, of course, is the Swat Kats aren't playing. :-) Well, I think that Feral think that the SwatKats are playing some sort of game, and affraid that something will go wrong if they keep continue playing the game. > Max ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 13:56:45 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA24900 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 13:29:25 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA24895 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 13:29:22 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.140] (dyn1140.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.140]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA15991 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 01:30:37 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 01:27:27 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Think about it... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Of course, they had to update it, but . . . you have to realize >>that the idea of Jake and Chance digging out and constructing >>an entire hanger (without anyone realizing it, no less) is >>next to impossible. >> >> Dr. Jake > >Hmmmm....could it be the infamous 'cartoon physics?' Could it be that the physics that they are using is 'Superhero physics'? because it seem that all superheroes have a secret HQ. >Ahhh, the wonders of the cartoon world! (Sorry, >end-of-vacation depression. I'll be myself again >tomorrow. Promise!) > >Terra Chang, >fan of a buncha stuff, ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 14:04:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA24892 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 13:29:19 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA24887 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 13:29:16 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.140] (dyn1140.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.140]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA15985 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 01:30:27 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 01:27:20 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Think about it... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Well, the"TurboKat" is made out of junk (I have some funny experience about >>the TurboKat, want to hear it?), so if there is no junk around, so I guess >>that there is no TurboKat. > >Heh. With the way that the Enforcer choppers & jets rain from the sky, >you'd think there'd be 3 or 4 Turbokats! Do they got the tools to make a jet? Besides, they will get arrested if they take public property from the road (The scrap metal that was once called jets and choppers.). And I think that a TurboKat that made by those scrap metal from the road can be easy detected by the Enforcer radar. >I'd really like to know how the >guys dug out that huge underground base without anyone noticing... I want to know how do they can take off from the hangar without somebody noticing that a strange black craft always flying over the junkyard. BTW, how do they build their HQ anyway? I think that one of the first missile that Jake is probaly the Mole missile, they probaly use it for digging holes. Hmmm, I wonder if Jake once build a Mole missile look alike when he was a kitten. > -Matt >mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 14:12:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA27170 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 13:49:20 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA27119 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 13:49:16 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA14158 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:06:17 -0800 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:06:17 -0800 Message-Id: <199602251906.LAA14158@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Kat's Alive Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >>From the FAQ: > >>- A fanzine, KAT'S ALIVE, is also in the works and will be available >>for a limited run (contact Timothy Fay [fayxx001@maroon.tc.unm.edu] for >>details). > >Just tried to E-mail Tim to check on the status of the Fanzine, but the >E-mail fails. Does anyone know if he's still out there and/or what's >happening with Kat's Alive? I kinda expect Tim has headed off to MegaKat >City. Tim had to ditch the fanzine project because he had too much on his plate already. In fact, he was unable to keep up with the listmail due to his workload, so he's had to unsubscribe. You can ask him yourself, but you'll have to pull up his new e-address from one of his posts to alt.fan.furry. A fanzine isn't a bad idea, but the costs are a bit prohibitive for a single individual to take on, and more than a challenge for a coalition of fans who are separated by too much geography. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 14:20:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA27670 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 14:02:28 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA27649 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 14:02:10 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA15250 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:19:11 -0800 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:19:11 -0800 Message-Id: <199602251919.LAA15250@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Kat decency (and other Kat stuff) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Or the Kat Mob has their fingers in the construction pie, just like >we have here :( "It's a lie! We're all honest contractors! We even give a lifetime warranty on cement shoes!" -- Fango and Katscratch Construction Pty. >>Interestingly enough, we haven't seen the city get hit with any *natural* >>disasters, such as extensive flooding, earthquakes and so on. Neither has >>it been hit with any riots (citizens fleeing in panic don't count). > >Not having seen all the eps :( :( :(, I ask: were there any eps with >totally conventional villains, that is villains without super powers >or hardware? I would've liked to have a couple with the Katguys taking on someone without any supernatural/hypernatural overtones (like "Steele" in my "Unmasked" thing, or some natural disaster as suggested above), and perhaps even do a story where they have to ally themselves with one of the villains with a common, if temporary, goal. A lot of the better eps of ac/adv series have used this "pact with evil" theme to good effect; "Gargoyles", "He-Man"... yadda, yadda. The H-B villain-in-waiting closest to the "without super powers" description would probably be Elliot Kliban from the unused "Blackout" premise on the Rat.org site. Tremblays also had plans for "Nimbus, the Weather Warrior" on some kind of motorcycle, but as their tastes run to the radically "visual", I'd bet this dude was intended as supernatural as you could get. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 15:53:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA01914 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:37:21 -0500 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com (mail04.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.53]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA01909 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:37:19 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA22185 for kats@bort.mv.net; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:36:48 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:36:48 -0500 Message-ID: <960225153647_153099781@mail04.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: What was your first SWAT Kats Ep? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>Oh yeah everybody, what is your first SwatKats episode? >> >>First for moi was, I think, "The Giant Bacteria". >> >"The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice" was mine. (big paragraph about "Cry Turmoil" deleted) My first ep was (I think) "Chaos in Crystal" (The series was on TBS at the time). I'm not really sure if it was my first ep, 'cause when I saw it, the characters looked really farmiliar, but that's the first ep I _remember_ seeing. Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa "Ann Phibian" Anne From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 16:07:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA02420 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:44:43 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA02415 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:44:40 -0500 Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA17235 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:43:33 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:43:33 -0500 Message-Id: <199602252043.PAA17235@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: Think about it... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 01:27 AM 2/26/96 +0700, you wrote: >Do they got the tools to make a jet? Besides, they will get arrested if >they take public property from the road (The scrap metal that was once >called jets and choppers.). And I think that a TurboKat that made by those >scrap metal from the road can be easy detected by the Enforcer radar. Since thier job is to run the scrapyard, the junk gets delivered to them. They don't have to pick it up. No one is going to care, or notice, what becomes of that junk once it hits the yard. The kats aren't real big on recycling. As for the question of radar, that was explained in "Unlikely Alloys"... The TurboKat has a radar jamming device to prevent the Enforcers picking them up. A interesting question is how do Jake and Chance manage to buy all the jet fuel and explosives they need without someone taking notice? Most likely, they have friends in high places. The Swat Kats are more popular with the mayor than Feral is, and definitely more popular with Callie, so I expect she probably arranges for the Swat Kats to get what they need. And once Mayor Manx did pay to get the TurboKat replaced as a reward for saving the city. >I'd really like to know how the guys dug out that huge underground base without anyone >noticing... Perhaps the base existed there before the Swat Kats. What is now a junk yard could well have once been a military base from one of the Mega Wars. It is very unlikely they could have constructed a concrete bunker by themselves. >I want to know how do they can take off from the hangar without somebody >noticing that a strange black craft always flying over the junkyard. The junkyard seems to be some distance from the city, maybe there is no one around to notice. Still, you'd think that big vapor trail they leave would be a very large "Hey, Look where we've been!" :-) But even if someone did notice, who's going to turn them in? The Swat Kats are very popular with the citizens. Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 16:13:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA04631 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:50:22 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA04626 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:50:19 -0500 Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA17246 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:49:18 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:49:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199602252049.PAA17246@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: Kat Decency Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 01:27 AM 2/26/96 +0700, you wrote: >Well, I think that Feral think that the SwatKats are playing some sort of >game, and affraid that something will go wrong if they keep continue >playing the game. Perhaps that is Feral's view, but think Feral hates the Swat Kats first and foremost because they tend to get things done and make Feral look bad in the process. If you take time to count them up, you'll find considerably more ENFORCER missiles destroying public property, and there are a lot more of them flying around. :-) Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 16:26:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA04859 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 16:03:12 -0500 Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA04852 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 16:03:08 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA19624 for kats@bort.mv.net; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 16:03:07 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 16:03:07 -0500 Message-ID: <960225160306_230920895@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Think about it... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Do they got the tools to make a jet? They're mechanics. My dad isn't one, and he's got his own workshop. Besides, any tools they don't have, Jake can make :-). >Besides, they will get arrested if >they take public property from the road (The scrap metal that was once >called jets and choppers.). Once Burke & Murray tow it, it goes to the salvage yard. Even if it is illegal (in the kat universe), the Enforcers are really gonna take their time to examine the salvage yard for missing metal. >And I think that a TurboKat that made by those >scrap metal from the road can be easy detected by the Enforcer radar. It really doesn't matter what kind of metal it is, it's the shape of the jet. F-117s are radar deterrant (sp?). The Turbokat might not be, but they do have a radar jammer, and metal *is* metal. >>I'd really like to know how the >>guys dug out that huge underground base without anyone noticing... > >I want to know how do they can take off from the hangar without somebody >noticing that a strange black craft always flying over the junkyard. If you ever notice, the hole where the Turbokat comes out of the hangar is surrounded by junk. >BTW, how do they build their HQ anyway? I think that one of the first >missile that Jake is probaly the Mole missile, they probaly use it for >digging holes. Hmmm, I wonder if Jake once build a Mole missile look alike >when he was a kitten. Here's a question. At what age would kittens be considered adult kats? Real cats are adults when they're less than a year old(I think). So, would kats use that system, or would the age be more around ours? Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa "Ann Phibian" Anne (Proud owner of the new Garth Brooks CD, not that anyone cares.) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 17:46:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA09102 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:27:54 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA09097 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:27:52 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA57840 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:24:34 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:22:51 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.02062908.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: What was your first SWAT Kats Ep? was Um Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Oh yeah everybody, what is your first SwatKats episode? > I was lucky, I saw "Katastrophe" which had terrific animation and gave me a broad range of characters in one episode. I was in a hotel in Washington, watching TV randomly Sunday morning with my brother, and said, "Wow, this is cool! Hey, that guy [Razor] sounds just like Donetello!" My brother has looked at my strangely since. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 17:59:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA09301 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:35:39 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA09296 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:35:36 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA56286 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:35:16 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:33:33 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.02063738.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Who is the loneliest? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Who is the loneliest character in the SwatKats universe? Dr. Abi Sinian (but I take care of that problem in my fanfic!) Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 18:11:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA09224 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:33:45 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA09214 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:33:40 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA31164 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:30:36 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:28:50 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.02063376.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Kat Decency Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>I have never understood exactly the Kat's transformation from, calm and >>assertave to steatly and aggressave. Oh well. >That one is pretty easy to answer. As I or anyone else that has frequently >played role based games can tell you, after a while it is possible to >completely shift into a character you have created without really having to >think about it, even if the personality is totally different. The difference >in this case, of course, is the Swat Kats aren't playing. :-) > Max That and perhaps Jake and Chance aren't so calm. We saw them as enforcerers in Wrath of Dark Kat, and they seemed very similar under fire as their SWAT Kat selves. Also in Metal Urgency, they fought the Metallikats in their own hanger (one of my favorite scenes!), and they got pretty wild once it really knocked into them that they had to fight. Their character change might not have anything to do with their masks. Before Jake find their guns in the wall, their both pretty passive and nervous. Once they realize they have a fighting chance, something just CLICKS up there and they're ready for action. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 18:18:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA09009 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:22:57 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA09004 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:22:55 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA04326 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:21:06 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:19:23 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.02062595.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Color blindess (was about triangle Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Somebody brought up that cats are colorblind. Good thing kats aren't! Can >you imagine the Turbokat in spring green and pink? >Or T-Bone and Razor in sky blue uniforms? >Karen Setnor >lsetnor@got.net >mcjd61b@prodigy.com The toys are like that. T-Bone seems to be remotely close to the right colors, but Razor is purple and green instead of blue and red. And all four figures seem A LOT meaner than on the show. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 19:11:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA15236 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 18:51:58 -0500 Received: from ix3.ix.netcom.com (ix3.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA15224 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 18:51:54 -0500 Received: from miles--world by ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id PAA21465; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:51:19 -0800 Message-ID: <3130F6AC.3EB3@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 18:54:20 -0500 From: Dan Ramos X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Mayor Manx References: <199602251625.LAA05387@brutus.bright.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Paul Kemner wrote: > After extensive research I've discovered the secret- Manx has a tail toupee! > Did it come from "Tail Club for Toms?" He knows that nobody will vote for a > tailless kat. Just look at that tail- it's bigger & bushier that Callie's! > That's why folks vote for him. (he wears a toupee on his head too - you can > see it getting blown off of his head in several eps.) Anyway, this false > tail throws off his balance- which is why he's not good at golf. (Don't you > wonder why he's so bad, even though he spends every waking hour on his game?) heh.. for anyone who frequents FurTooniaMUCK enough, you might know that MILES, my character, has a TAIL CLUB FOR FURS. Heheh... ya see... I, as president-- AND client, can't say whether the Mayor is a member or not. He'll have to tell you himself... but.. this certainly makes you wonder, doesn't it? heeheheh -Dan Ramos http://www.furry.com/lycos/ramosdan.html Miles @ FurTooniaMUCK and FurryMUCK From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 23:11:05 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA29086 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 23:02:37 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA29076 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 23:01:50 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d142.infoserve.net [199.175.157.142]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA10377 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:19:07 -0800 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:19:07 -0800 Message-Id: <199602260419.UAA10377@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Think about it... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >At 01:27 AM 2/26/96 +0700, you wrote: > >>Do they got the tools to make a jet? Besides, they will get arrested if >>they take public property from the road (The scrap metal that was once >>called jets and choppers.). And I think that a TurboKat that made by those >>scrap metal from the road can be easy detected by the Enforcer radar. > >Since thier job is to run the scrapyard, the junk gets delivered to them. >They don't have to pick it up. No one is going to care, or notice, what >becomes of that junk once it hits the yard. The kats aren't real big on >recycling. You would not *believe* the stuff that gets chucked out in Military scrapyards. I was just in the Disposal yard of Malmstrom AFB in Great Falls, Montana and they had *tons* of electronic consoles and radar/guidance gear just lying out in the snow ready for a visit from a bucket shovel. Where does the TK get fuel? We bought 121 jeeps from the AFB scrapyard, and each had 5-15 gallons of fuel inside. I'd assume the Kat-guys would have access to at least similar amounts - they work for the Government still - even if their new vocation is junkpatrol. >A interesting question is how do Jake and Chance manage to buy all the jet >fuel and explosives they need without someone taking notice? Most likely, >they have friends in high places. The Swat Kats are more popular with the >mayor than Feral is, and definitely more popular with Callie, so I expect >she probably arranges for the Swat Kats to get what they need. >And once Mayor Manx did pay to get the TurboKat replaced as a reward for >saving the city. Twice, I think. Once at the end of the first season with "Katastrophe" and once before in, what, "Enter the Madkat" maybe? Someone correct me - I haven't got time to go check! _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 23:23:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA29611 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 23:18:08 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA29604 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 23:18:03 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d142.infoserve.net [199.175.157.142]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA10967 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:35:24 -0800 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:35:24 -0800 Message-Id: <199602260435.UAA10967@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats logo -> Red Triangles ? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Edo wrote: >I just saw some of the art (Pictures) from the SNES game (I saw them from >rat.org.), and it seem that their logo is in the place of the red triangles >that we talk about recently, are this is the sketches that you mention? Hmm...maybe, but even those drawings were taken from elsewhere... >Is Christian Tremblay's sketches was use as an art for the SNES game? (I >mean the cover of the game package, the manual page, and the title screen.) Yeah, there's two screens in the game where it either says "Razor" or "T-Bone" as you choose your characters (and I think Brad Clark scanned each for the rat.org site) that come from Tremblay drawings found within this "Style Guide" thing I got from (kinda from) H-B. Most of the other "stock" drawings like those from the ads, posters, packaging etc can also be found in this thing as either B&W line art or color panels. Still trying to break away from work to get a copy made for scanning purposes so we can each download what we like from it. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Feb 25 23:51:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA29792 for kats-ll; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 23:22:44 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA29777 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 23:22:36 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d142.infoserve.net [199.175.157.142]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA11032 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:39:41 -0800 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:39:41 -0800 Message-Id: <199602260439.UAA11032@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Season 2--re-evaluation Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I will comment on the second season after I have seen all the second episodes. >BTW, I think that I like the early second season's plot, it really >incorporated Felina's role in the SwatKats universe, some of the later >second season's plot seem to be just a recap from the first season >episodes. Um, these two statements contradict alarmingly. I don't personally see any duplication from any first season eps to those of the second - in point of fact, the thing got axed just as the writers were getting comfortable with the characters and the possibilities inherent in the setup. YMMV. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 26 03:44:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id DAA21668 for kats-ll; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 03:27:46 -0500 Received: from desiree.teleport.com (desiree.teleport.com [192.108.254.21]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id DAA21663 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 03:27:43 -0500 Received: from teleport.com ([204.119.17.67]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA05796 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 00:27:40 -0800 Message-Id: <199602260827.AAA05796@desiree.teleport.com> Subject: Re: Who is the loneliest? To: kats@bort.mv.net In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 26 Feb 1996 01:27:39 +0700. Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 00:28:06 -0800 From: Felix Lee Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Edo Andromedo: > Who is the loneliest character in the SwatKats universe? Arthur Coon, a middle-aged advertising copy writer for TransKat Pharmaceuticals. In high school he was class president, and although he didn't marry the prom queen, he did marry her sister. But he's divorced now; no kittens. He spends his days trying to find new ways of saying that TKP's nepetalactone soda (commonly called "katmint") is better, fresher, smoother, naturaller, incomparabler than their competition's brand. At night, he drinks a sixpack of katmint (the competition's brand, of course), and watches Scaredy Kat reruns and David Litterbin until he falls asleep. Asleep, he dreams of prowling like an animal through empty city streets, trying to find the mailbox that leads back to his dreamtime home, a place where bees fill the air like rain, and tall, stately frogs perform Kabuki beneath the weeping willows. Sometimes the mailbox is a parking meter. He never remembers his dreams past the second caffeine donut at breakfast. Still, his conversations tend to lead oddly to frogs or bees. "Nice weather", someone says to him, and he might reply, "Too warm for bees. Did you know that a hive controls its temperature by making its workers flap their wings, like this?" His coworkers avoid talking to him. His manager thinks he's gay, so she casually flirts with him (and learns the names of forty-seven species of frog). She's wrong, but it's not like it makes any difference at the moment. Not until he can remember his dreams all the way to lunch, and can face the secret they hide. -- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 26 10:07:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA13413 for kats-ll; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:50:09 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA13404 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:50:06 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA29115 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 07:07:47 -0800 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 07:07:47 -0800 Message-Id: <199602261507.HAA29115@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Pink triangles Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Ryan wrote: >Let's see... After checking out the SWAT Kat's uniforms, I *have* found pink >triangles on their heads, and um, they're used for hearing. Strange, all >kats have these triangles, also known as ears. Anything pink on the actual >SWAT Kat uniform, T-Bone has pink on his uniform in "Cry Turmoil" You know, >the purple one that didn't go with the helmet? Even then, it's not >triangles, so forget it! You know what ticked me off about the character designs for "Turmoil"? I'd rather have seen them go with 'Fascist' style uniforms reminiscent of the Nazis - or perhaps the old "Eastern Alliance" getups from "Battlestar Galactica" - instead of the Khaddafy-ized third-world doorman things they settled on. You kind of wanted T-Bone to look more, well "menacing" as opposed to simply ludicrous - and it would've added so much more to whatever "tension" they thought they'd accomplish by having you believe that T-Bone had swapped sides if he looked the part. Though Turmoil's pilots on the other hand.....meow. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 26 10:21:29 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA13414 for kats-ll; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:50:11 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA13401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:50:04 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA29112 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 07:07:44 -0800 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 07:07:44 -0800 Message-Id: <199602261507.HAA29112@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Jumping, running, and hitting. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Someone wrote (Lt. Feral, I believe) >Math!? AHHHHHH!!! I know how you feel. (I hate math! I just sit there, >wishing all the time I had a Glov-A-Trix so I could...) Grrr..agreed. I believe Razor would be able to hold his own with a blackboard full of Einsteinian gibberish, but Chance would likely limit his algebrain to determining how much tape he'd need at what speed to get the whole "Skaredy Kat" marathon fit on. In that respect - I'm afraid I'm rather like Chance! (and I'll have my boots up on the desk in the manner described by someone earlier as well...) >>"I'm sorry...you looked so much like the 'Chesire Cat' that I was actually >>hoping bits of you would start to dissapear." >> -Andy Hill (Chance), really cool friend o' Heh. Thank you. I had someone from a.t.a. ask me where I got that from (you've got it pretty close - from memory, no?) and I had to admit I made it up. I must've been thinking of Turner at the time announcing how great he was on CNN. ("Sorry for staring... it's just that you looked so much like the Cheshire Cat back there, and I was rather hoping bits of you would begin to disappear...") _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 26 10:26:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA13421 for kats-ll; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:50:13 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA13416 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:50:11 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA29118 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 07:07:50 -0800 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 07:07:50 -0800 Message-Id: <199602261507.HAA29118@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Kat Decency Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >At 08:21 PM 2/24/96 -0800, you wrote: > >>I have never understood exactly the Kat's transformation from, calm and >>assertave to steatly and aggressave. Oh well. > >That one is pretty easy to answer. As I or anyone else that has frequently >played role based games can tell you, after a while it is possible to >completely shift into a character you have created without really having to >think about it, even if the personality is totally different. The difference >in this case, of course, is the Swat Kats aren't playing. :-) Heh. Try being forcedly schizophrenic as relates to the difference in your work/play environments. I think I've got two completely different personalities depending on what side of the weekend it is, and what shows up at work Monday is very much an RPG character until 4:30 Friday rolls around. Sad, huh? Kat guys are somewhat like that too, I think - as they undoubtedly consider it kinda, well...dullsville to confine themselves to their junkmen alter-egos when they'd much rather be doing something more adventurous in the TK as being closer to what they really *are* as opposed to what others force them to be. (Did any of that make the slightest bit of sense?) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 26 10:35:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA13402 for kats-ll; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:50:05 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA13388 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:50:01 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA29109 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 07:07:40 -0800 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 07:07:40 -0800 Message-Id: <199602261507.HAA29109@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Nitpicker's Guide to SWAT Kats Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Edo wrote: >I do have a question about "Unlikely Alloys", how do Zed got corupted by >the Metallikats criminal personalities? I know that Zed fix the >Metallikats, but do Zed really plug in to the Metallikats memory banks? Oh >yeah, when Greenbox merge with Zed, why is that they doesn't speak at the >same time? and why does Zed need to search for more information? isn't the >information from Mac already sufficient? "Unlikely Alloys" was Lance Falk's Sci-Fi homage tour-de-force, incorporating references from "Star Trek: The Next Generation", "Fantastic Voyage" and visual bits 'n' pieces from Japanime theatrical releases. Dr. Greenbox becoming part of his creation is a parallel to the STNG episode where Barkelely (sp?) creates the supercomputer in the Holodeck in an attempt to create a more powerful interface with which to carry out the Argus repairs. Just as "Broccoli" was transformed and absorbed by *his* creation, so Leiter Greenbox was annexed by his. Zed was altered by other computer/machines he'd come into contact with in much the same way as your computer has the ability to absorb unwanted information in the form of viruses from other storage media - most times unbeknownst to the operator - and thereby altering the behaviour of the machine. Falk likely intended this aspect of "Zed" to reference the Classic Trek episode with the schizophrenic Martian/Earth probe bent on destroying all that did not meet with its criteria for perfection. (Did you know that Lance Falk submitted two scripts to the producers of STNG, only to have them rejected as "too much like the old 'Trek"?) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 26 18:05:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA14062 for kats-ll; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:44:42 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA14057 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:44:39 -0500 Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.3/merit-2.0) with SMTP id RAA00674 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:44:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa24919; 26 Feb 96 17:47 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <31326230@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Mon, 26 Feb 96 17:45:20 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: Kats list Subject: Re: Kat-things Date: Mon, 26 Feb 96 17:43:00 PST Message-ID: <31326230@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 17 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Of course, Kat age is a relative thing (we >>don't know what the average lifespan of a Kat is, for example; tho judging >>by all of the destruction that takes place in the city it probably isn't >>very high ;-). >Hmmm, kats mortality rate... I always wonder if the kats family is a big >family or a small family, since that cats have a lots of kittens so that >there will always be a descendant to continue their family line. Seems like they live a pretty long time to me.. "Pops" who appeared in the beginning of "Bright & Shiny Future" was already up there in age -- he'd known Chance since he was little. Later on in the (pretty far off) future, we saw Pops again - almost unchanged. -Matt mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 26 18:07:50 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA13485 for kats-ll; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:30:44 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA13479 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:30:42 -0500 Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.3/merit-2.0) with SMTP id RAA00264 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:30:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa24892; 26 Feb 96 17:33 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <31325EEB@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Mon, 26 Feb 96 17:31:23 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: Kats list Subject: RE: A stray Kat thought... Date: Mon, 26 Feb 96 17:30:00 PST Message-ID: <31325EEB@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 18 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >A couple of weeks or so there was a mini-TP (TinyPlot) on FurryMUCK where >Razor gave Decker (another Kat looking somewhat like Razor, only with blue >fur) "a little flea problem." (I'm sure Doc Conway and Simon Leet remember >this incident fairly well.) As a result, I've occasionally wondered >if flea infestations/epidemics been a recurring problem in Megakat City. >(If not, it'd be an interesting plot device, at least.) heh. Sounds like an epidemic could be bad news for everykat, sans Dr. Viper (does he have fur?) I'd think that with all their advanced technology, they'd have figured out a way to almost completely eliminate the problem. (Much like we have nearly eliminated Small Pox.) Although, who knows.. This could be a great way for Dr. Viper to get the upper claw. :) -Matt mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Feb 26 18:20:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA13135 for kats-ll; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:23:27 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA13129 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:23:20 -0500 Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.3/merit-2.0) with SMTP id RAA29808 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:23:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa24877; 26 Feb 96 17:26 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <31325D39@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Mon, 26 Feb 96 17:24:09 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: Kats list Subject: Re: Kat Decency Date: Mon, 26 Feb 96 17:23:00 PST Message-ID: <31325D39@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 25 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Perhaps that is Feral's view, but think Feral hates the Swat Kats first and >foremost because they tend to get things done and make Feral look bad in the >process. >If you take time to count them up, you'll find considerably more ENFORCER >missiles destroying public property, and there are a lot more of them flying >around. :-) If you really think about it, the Enforcers must be keeping the regular criminals in line and over-all law and order. Their stories just wouldn't be nearly exciting to see. (Someone has to be keeping an eye on the "mob" & writing parking tickets.) The guys are exactly what their name implies "SWAT" Kats as in "S.W.A.T." team. In other words, they put out the criminal "fires". Feral's not stupid or incompetant. He's the kind of guy that gets the job done -- it's just not always possible given the limitation of the weapons, craft, & personnel he's got to deal with. that's my $0.02 worth -Matt mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 27 00:30:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA19369 for kats-ll; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 00:13:51 -0500 Received: from psycfrnd.interaccess.com (root@psycfrnd.interaccess.com [198.80.0.26]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA19364 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 00:13:49 -0500 Received: from mcshade.interacces.com (d102.loop.interaccess.com [206.183.68.102]) by psycfrnd.interaccess.com (8.7.2/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA28594 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 23:11:55 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199602270511.XAA28594@psycfrnd.interaccess.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Matthew Milam" To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 23:15:41 +0000 Subject: SWAT KATS and Top Gun.. Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net As sort of a paradoy question?? What happens when you combine the music of Swat Kats and The Music of Top Gun? Matthew From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 27 01:43:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA22737 for kats-ll; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 01:27:42 -0500 Received: from ix6.ix.netcom.com (ix6.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.6]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA22732 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 01:27:40 -0500 Received: from Miles' World by ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id WAA07779; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 22:27:07 -0800 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 22:27:07 -0800 Message-Id: <199602270627.WAA07779@ix6.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: danramos@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Dan Ramos Subject: Re: SWAT KATS and Top Gun.. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 11:15 PM 2/26/96 +0000, you wrote: >As sort of a paradoy question?? > >What happens when you combine the music of Swat Kats and The Music of >Top Gun? > Ah! Now... this I *HAVE* actually seen. :) Dana Uehara actually put together his own "music video" using DANGER ZONE that he kinda mixed together using two VCR's for video 'splicing.' :) Was REALLY REALLY cool, if I might say so! :) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 27 02:07:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA22798 for kats-ll; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 01:32:09 -0500 Received: from [164.67.21.131] (ts28-6.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.21.131]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA22786 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 01:31:53 -0500 X-Sender: rat1@bort.mv.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 22:32:04 -0800 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: And more Kat stuff... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net DJ comments on Razor sounding like TMNT's Donatello. Interestingly enough, that's what originally drew me into the series (recognizing a familiar voice). And yes, if you didn't already know, Razor and Don are both voiced by the same person (Barry Gordon). Although I have yet to fully verify this, I believe Barry Gordon also voices the Nestle Quik Bunny as well as a few other characters (Junior on the Snorks, for example). As a side note, Barry Gordon is now a full-fledged lawyer. He was also president of the Screen Actors Guild, tho I don't know if he still is. Kat-transformations: I was planning to comment on this, but I don't think I did, so here goes... the model sheets in "Toon" magazine have a few interesting comments on the construction notes of Razor as oppsed to Jake: "Although this is the same character, 'Razor' has thicker limbs, bigger hands and more dynamic body language than Jake... 'Razor' should always look _fast_ and _ready for action_ -- 'Jake' is _slower_ and more _laid-back_..." It looks as though we aren't just seeing changes in how T-Bone and Razor behave (in going from garage mechanics to SWAT Kats), but also how they look. Matt queries: > What happens when you combine the music of Swat Kats and The Music of > Top Gun? Well, just imagine mixing Harold Faltemeyer (composer of the Top Gun theme) and Queen (on which the Kats' music style is based) and you have your answer. -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia "I was raised to always offer my seat to a lady..." -- Razor From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Feb 27 02:38:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA26122 for kats-ll; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 02:24:43 -0500 Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA26116 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 02:23:54 -0500 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ab22168; 27 Feb 96 0:14 GMT Received: from gunk.demon.co.uk ([158.152.14.46]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa29043; 27 Feb 96 0:13 GMT To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ben Carter Subject: Re: What was your first SWAT Kats Ep? References: <960225153647_153099781@mail04.mail.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <960225153647_153099781@mail04.mail.aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 23:47:49 GMT Message-ID: <19960226.234749.89@gunk.demon.co.uk> Organization: You must be joking! X-Mailer: Archimedes TTFN Version 0.36 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net In message <960225153647_153099781@mail04.mail.aol.com> you wrote: > > > >>>Oh yeah everybody, what is your first SwatKats episode? > >> > >>First for moi was, I think, "The Giant Bacteria". > >> > >"The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice" was mine. (big paragraph about "Cry > Turmoil" deleted) > > My first ep was (I think) "Chaos in Crystal" (The series was on TBS at the > time). I'm not really sure if it was my first ep, 'cause when I saw it, the > characters looked really farmiliar, but that's the first ep I _remember_ > seeing. The first ep I saw was "Bride of the Pastmaster" - I only watched it because I saw a piece about the SNES game in Super Play, complete with picture of T-Bone and Razor, and thought "Hey! That looks nice!"... -- Ben Carter +-------------------------------+ A!JW21 WAR+++ R&R+++++ SL- PP! Df $+ |Formerly c.carter@ulst.ac.uk...| TRita E10 PonSadMeal XTakeYou A16 GM |... now ben@gunk.demon.co.uk! | +-------------------------------+ "Quick! Extra boiling oil!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Feb 29 23:55:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA17104 for kats-ll; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 23:31:26 -0500 Received: from tribeca.ios.com (root@tribeca.ios.com [198.4.75.48]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA16987 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 23:28:40 -0500 Received: from wntrmute.ios.com (ppp-64.ts-9.hck.idt.net [169.132.51.136]) by tribeca.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA10006 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 23:27:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 23:27:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199603010427.XAA10006@tribeca.ios.com> X-Sender: wntrmute@tribeca.ios.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: wntrmute@tribeca.ios.com (August Yang) Subject: Super Chunk! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Howdy All! Either I've seen severed from the list, or it's been *really* slow these past two days. I'll opt for the latter. In any case, I've just e-mail to Toonnet@aol.com about my dismay that Speed Racer is taking the SWAT Kats' timeslot in the afternoons. Well, I suggested that, as compensation, they show a Super Chunk of SWAT Kats. It's not the *greatest* solution, but it'll make the hurt of not seeing the SWAT Kats every weekday a little less. So, those of you that get the Cartoon Network, would you please send them a note saying that you'd like to see a Super Chunk of SWAT Kats? August Paul Yang gets a good idea every now and again. -- wntrmute@tribeca.ios.com | For my Life Public Relations and Official Test Audience for the FDC | Still ahead, "Shakespeare would have loved your ratings system. | Pity me. -Queen Twelfth Night would have been lucky to have lasted one." -Max Headroom