From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 01:41:07 +0700 Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor >>The bottom line is that Swat Kats maybe need a new character if Callie >>going ever to get an assistant, Who knows ! maybe if the Kats series ever >>going to be revived again, we will see an assistant for Callie. (I personaly >>have a character for the assistant, but you may think that it's silly) > >They should at least give her a secretary or something. Yes, but maybe she already have a secretary, of course secretary aren't paid for handling big time criminals >I mean, isn't it enough for her to run the city without having to deal with >all the menial bullshit that goes with the job. Maybe what she need is close friend that will help her in every step of the way. >Ed From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 01:40:58 +0700 Subject: Re: How many vehicle does the SwatKats has ? >On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > >> Let's talk about what kind of vehicle the SwatKats have. >> >> Does anybody want to correct and add to this SwatKats vehicle collection >>list ? >> >I believe Razor tells Callie to keep the SandKat (looks like a slightly >modified Cyclotron really ...) if they don't return in "Chaos in Crystal". Ok, let's do a little recap. There's, The Cyclotron, the SwatKats land vehicle, Two kats can fit into this vehicle, although I saw Razor riding the one Kat version in "Razor Edge". The ThunderTruck the SwatKats land vehicle, Two kats can fit into this vehicle. The TurboKat the SwatKats main vehicle, Two kats can fit into this vehicle. The SandKat the SwatKats sand vehicle, the Kat capacity maybe as same as the Cyclotron. The Jetski the SwatKats water vehicle, can only fit one Kat. BTW does ejection seat can be consider a vehicle ? I saw at "The Pastmaster always ring twices" that they can do some manuvering on it. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 01:41:01 +0700 Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor >On Sat, 25 Nov 1995, MATT WEBER wrote: >> Seems to me that he's one notch below Feral. Feral outwardly dislikes the >> guys 'cause they always make him look bad (and how would it look for the >> Enforcer Commander to endorse a couple of vigilantes?) But inwardly, he >> likes what they're doing (it's rather obvious.) However, Steele shows his >> dislike of the guys to play on Feral's conscience and promote his own >> career. Steele doesn't show *any* good feelings towards the guys. > > Feral really does like the Kat guys. He just doesn't show it >because it would make any commander look bad, as said above. Feral may like the result, he just doesn't like how the Kat guys do it. (That's ok if a Enforcer/Police leader supporting a couple of vigilantes) >Check out "Katastrophe". Never see it ! but I will check it as soon it's shows up on my Television. >A.J. Freda Mac: "How do I supposed to know that was your >sister's car >ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" >"Tails" on IRC Molly: "Mac, You always hated my side of the family!" From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 01:41:04 +0700 Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor >>>>>And _I_ have a question: WHAT THE HECK _IS_ A DEPUTY MAYOR?????????? >>>> >>>>I think its kinda like president & vice-president. The deputy mayor does >>>>part of the work. (Or, in Callie's case, ALL the work. :) ) > >Actually, the deputy mayor does all the work, while the mayor gets >all the credit. That's not quite actualy true, sometimes things work in the right way, but sometimes the two doesn't do anything, in real life of course :-), but in Callie case, it's true what you say about the Deputy Mayor doing all the work. >>>I can't WAIT until Manx is finally bumped off. The SK have one less person >>>to rescue, and Cally (Or Callie) (?) finally gets some credit. Fanfic idea >>>coming on.... > >Callie will have the job, but only until the next election. She's a >hard worker, and does a great job of keeping things running, but >she's clearly no politician, and wouldn't stand a chance of getting >elected. Sad but true. Callie just wasn't the Politician type, she wasn't the Kat that would run for office, Manx in the other hand is the perfect Kat for the job, BTW how does she meet Manx anyway ? >Ed From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 00:10:25 -0800 Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor > >Callie just wasn't the Politician type, she wasn't the Kat that would run >for office, Manx in the other hand is the perfect Kat for the job, BTW how >does she meet Manx anyway ? You never find out much of that kind of background stuff from anybody (despite repeatedly asking), and I think it has its upside and downside. We never really _know_ how she meets Manx, or how old the Kat Guys really are, or how they met each other, or if Callie really _does_ appear in a "Swimsuit Issue" - but just think of all the fork-in-the-road possibilities for fanfic! _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 00:10:28 -0800 Subject: Katseye News Special Report! I was on the phone for about an hour with Christian Tremblay (maybe Santa will pay my phone bill for me this year...) and I've got a bunch of news. First off, the mail is *really* slow at this time of year, so the Draw deadline has been extended to Friday, December 8th. Now comes the fun part. Looks like there's going to be three additional prizes awarded to the main one, and if any of you (or your Kat-fan friends) haven't gotten in on this, don't wait. I can't pass on what at least the main prize is, but suffice to say that I've only seen one other example of this kind of thing, and *I* certainly can't afford one. Please keep your guesses to yourself lest the Legal Party-Poopers pre-empt all our fun. The address and instructions are in the stuff at the bottom of this post - and believe me - you forget to mail your entry in and you'll be kicking yourself from here to Helsinki when some Gloating Gertie posts what they won. (I'm *already* kicking myself because I'm disqualified - honesty is expensive, huh?) Next, the puzzling entity that is the Turner Organization has done it again. In California and the Western States at least, there is apparently a rather huge restaurant chain called "Carl Jr.'s" or something. Well, there's a big Kats promotion coming up *very* shortly, and Gordy Toy has supplied a bunch of "Happy Meal" style Kat toys to give away. I'm fairly sure that these things may be the same things given away in the "White Castle" promotion on the East Coast some time ago, but who knows? Maybe someone living in the area concerned could snag a whack of these things and offer 'em up to the geographically disadvantaged like myself and others. SwatKats watches have been made, and the Tremblay Bros. are awaiting their first sample from overseas in advance of the first shipment. They should be available in Toys R Us, Wal-Mart, K-Mart etc in the 'States at least, but still no word on Canada. The Bros. shopped around the California X-Mart's and so on, and report that there's a number of Kat-toys around - pretty much the only thing going at the moment other than "Toy Story". If you haven't got yours yet, now's the time. 'Kay bye... (don't forget to find yourself a stamp if you've put it off this long - remember, Santa always knows whether you've been Naughty or Nice!) _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:40:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) WOW!!!! I must have typed the right stuff or somethin': Look Below! : A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 04:15:30 -0500 From: ToonNet@aol.com To: ah518@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation Dear A.J., Well, I wish I had a better answer for you, but the bottom line is that some shows just don't get the support from viewers(read: ratings) needed to keep them on the air. That is not to say that SWATKats is not without its followers--we do get a lot of e-mail here regarding the show. In addition to the ratings game, there are other factors involved. As you may know, SWATKats was broadcast on other stations before it appeared on The Cartoon Network. Unless a show is a run-away smash hit--by the next season, many of the executives who are in charge of procuring syndicated shows for their stations are looking for what they think will be the next hottest thing. And in doing so, often shows that do have a good-sized following are cancelled, while, unfortunately, other not-so-good ones end up staying on the air and even others are created. It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, but it's been going on for quite a while--Did you know that the same fate befell one of Hanna-Barbera's most famous action series? "Jonny Quest" was only around for one season(1964) before it got the axe! As you know, when SWATKats disappeared from local channels, The Cartoon Network snatched it up and began airing it. We know there are a lot of viewers out there who are enjoying it, and we hope they continue to enjoy it. It is an excellent program, with unusually fluid animation--and as such, it is obviously expensive to produce. That was quite possibly also a factor with regards to its demise. And as much as we'd like to give the green light to start production on the series again, we don't have that authority. However, your comments are taken seriously and greatly appreciated. As Jonny Quest has developed a huge following and spun-off new series and TV movies, perhaps SWATKats will as well. Let's just hope that it doesn't take 30 years! Thanks again for your comments! The Cartoon Network --------------------- Forwarded message: From: ah518@leo.nmc.edu (ARTHUR JOHN FREDA) To: ToonNet@aol.com CC: kats@bort.mv.net Date: 95-11-01 14:56:08 EST Cartoon Network-- Why were SWAT Kats cancelled? And don't give me the "lack of merchandise" because as soon as SK stuff would get on the shelves it would dissapear. SWAT Kats was some of the best work Hanna-Barbera ever did. I never seen anything with such smooth animation and shading. Thousands, maybe millions of fans are very dissapointed with Ted Turner's actions. Please put SK back in the air. Please Reply, A.J. Freda A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:58:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Yes, I know. My sig is supposed to be "So sue me. How was I supposed to know that was your sister's car back there", but it really hard to change my sig. When I change it, I need to erase the whole thing and start over. A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:55:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: RE: Introducing a new member Mrs. Potato head..... Mrs. Potato head......Mrs. potato head....Mrs. Potato Head!!!!!! Buzz! A toy is stuck behind the dresser! To infinity, and BEYOND! great. We'll blink 'em to death. Woody: Buzz! Your flying! Buzz: No, I'm just FALLING WITH STYLE! A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From mad-sk@earth.naug.org Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: "White Trash (SK)" Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 22:08:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Swat Kats cancellation On Wed, 1 Nov 1995, Timothy D Fay wrote: > Wait a minute... My TV guide says the SWAT KATS are still on the Cartoon > Network at 4:30pm CST every weekday. Have I missed something? > Nope, they definately are still on at that time... At least last I checked... From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 22:51:09 -0800 Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) >WOW!!!! I must have typed the right stuff or somethin': Guess so. Too bad your sig spilled into the next post! (in-joke alert). >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 04:15:30 -0500 >From: ToonNet@aol.com >To: ah518@aol.com >Subject: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation > >Dear A.J., > > Well, I wish I had a better answer for you, but the bottom line is that >some shows just don't get the support from viewers(read: ratings) needed to >keep them on the air. That is not to say that SWATKats is not without its >followers--we do get a lot of e-mail here regarding the show. In addition to >the ratings game, there are other factors involved. ...factors like what kind of people are up at 4:30 in the morning to punch the pretty button on their Neilsen People Meters. As you may know, SWATKats >was broadcast on other stations before it appeared on The Cartoon Network. >Unless a show is a run-away smash hit--by the next season, many of the >executives who are in charge of procuring syndicated shows for their stations >are looking for what they think will be the next hottest thing. And in doing >so, often shows that do have a good-sized following are cancelled, while, >unfortunately, other not-so-good ones end up staying on the air and even >others are created. ...while some efforts become very successful in subsequent seasons because someone had the vision to stick with them, or the surgery required to realize that most kids aren't up enjoying their Saturday Morning Cornflakes before the bird gets the worm. Or the realization that ratings are seldom the only factor keeping ac/adv on the air, as toy sales and merchandising by far and away make up the biggest slice of the revenue pie, and Turner arrogantly ignored the "rules" for having the toy deals nailed down BEFORE the first air date, and wondered why the money wasn't rolling in. It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, but it's been >going on for quite a while--Did you know that the same fate befell one of >Hanna-Barbera's most famous action series? "Jonny Quest" was only around for >one season(1964) before it got the axe! Uh huh. Doug Wildey created the original series, had much creative control, and went way over budget doing it. Even back then, H-B wasn't willing to shell out for quality, and axed it based on that - evidently just like the Kats. Wildey was a visionary like the Tremblay Bros, and saw the kind of opportunities back then that the management of that day couldn't, and the whole thing is playing out yet again. H-B did the same exact thing with "Pirates of Dark Water" later, and has repeated the same mistake so often now that it must be like second nature. Even *they* realized that nothing they ever had in the ac/adv category was ever as successful as "Jonny" (witness the "Insects" thing and the upcoming revival) and I expect that they'll end up feeling the same way about Kats. Too bad hindsight comes at such a high price. > As you know, when SWATKats disappeared from local channels, The Cartoon >Network snatched it up and began airing it. We know there are a lot of >viewers out there who are enjoying it, and we hope they continue to enjoy it. >It is an excellent program, with unusually fluid animation--and as such, it >is obviously expensive to produce. That was quite possibly also a factor with >regards to its demise. And as much as we'd like to give the green light to >start production on the series again, we don't have that authority. And you know what? Try and find someone in the Turner org that *does* "have the authority". It's like searching for the Grail. > However, your comments are taken seriously and greatly appreciated. As >Jonny Quest has developed a huge following and spun-off new series and TV >movies, perhaps SWATKats will as well. Let's just hope that it doesn't take >30 years! > Thanks again for your comments! > The Cartoon Network I kinda like this guy...at least he seems to appreciate good stuff. I love the comment about "not-so-good ones staying on the air while still others are created", I wonder if he's thinking of the same things I am? Anyway, thanks for posting this AJ. _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From lsetnor@got.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: lsetnor@got.net (Leslie Setnor) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 19:35:34 -0800 Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) >>In addition to >>the ratings game, there are other factors involved. > >...factors like what kind of people are up at 4:30 in the morning to punch the pretty >button on their Neilsen People Meters. I think that's what did them in, because TBS aires all their programs at the same time across the nation. So to watch it on cable I have to program the VCR, and SK was axed off the local station that USED to show it because of a looong saturday morning Fox lineup. The only time SK ever got a break in my time zone was when they showed it at 6 PM. (3 in my area, right after school, perfect!) Karen Setnor lsetnor@got.net mcjd61b@prodigy.com "Ah, crud Razor!" From mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net (David Minter) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 20:55:30 -0600 Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) >are looking for what they think will be the next hottest thing. And in doing >so, often shows that do have a good-sized following are cancelled, while, >unfortunately, other not-so-good ones end up staying on the air and even >others are created. It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, but it's been >going on for quite a while--Did you know that the same fate befell one of >Hanna-Barbera's most famous action series? "Jonny Quest" was only around for >one season(1964) before it got the axe! > However, your comments are taken seriously and greatly appreciated. As >Jonny Quest has developed a huge following and spun-off new series and TV >movies, perhaps SWATKats will as well. Let's just hope that it doesn't take >30 years! Ah, "Southern Sunshine..." I'm sorry. I don't know where that came from. :> Well, I knew I was spot on when I took a stab at Turner with the Quest jab, but I never thought they'd come out and say it! Well, I for one, would rather the SWAT Kats die a graceful death than have them recycled as "The SWAT Kats vs. the Cyber Cy-Kat-as!" They ran that new Quest movie into the ground, only to prove the level of crap that Turner can a property into to! And, I don't want that to happen to my beloved SWAT Kats! Enough said. QED. Rant/Rave Mode Off. Stepping down from soap box now... David Minter mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net ( What an original signature! ) From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 11:20:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: How many vehicle does the SwatKats has ? Now lets not all forget the Hover-Kat, appearing only once, which was in "Unlikely Alloys". A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 19:15:32 +0700 Subject: Can the TurboKat swim ? I know that this is silly question, but can the TurboKat swim ? you know ! submersible, underwater, water proof, and all that underwatery stuff. I know that T-Bone doesn't like water, but does the TurboKat can turn into a some sort of sub ? -Still looking for someone to co-authored a Kat story- From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 19:15:35 +0700 Subject: Re: How many vehicle does the SwatKats has ? >Now lets not all forget the Hover-Kat, appearing only once, which was in >"Unlikely Alloys". Ok, the Hover-Kat, are this is some sort of hovercraft (I never watched "Unlikely Alloys" before) ? and are the Hover-Kat work in the same way as a hovercraft ? BTW, chance ! how are you doing in typing the second season episode guide from "Animato" ? and are you done yet ? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 19:15:37 +0700 Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) >> However, your comments are taken seriously and greatly appreciated. As >>Jonny Quest has developed a huge following and spun-off new series and TV >>movies, perhaps SWATKats will as well. Let's just hope that it doesn't take >>30 years! > > Ah, "Southern Sunshine..." I'm sorry. I don't know where that came >from. :> Well, I knew I was spot on when I took a stab at Turner with the >Quest jab, but I never thought they'd come out and say it! Well, I for one, >would rather the SWAT Kats die a graceful death than have them recycled as >"The SWAT Kats vs. the Cyber Cy-Kat-as!" When you mean graceful death, do you mean a great movie or an great episode that end the SwatKats series (For temporary at least :-) ) ? or do you mean T-Bone turning into "Doomsday" and crash the TurboKat in a suicidal attack run (Or something like that) ? or do you mean a total cancelation (Never going to be build as a new series again) ? >They ran that new Quest movie into >the ground, only to prove the level of crap that Turner can a property into >to! And, I don't want that to happen to my beloved SWAT Kats! Enough said. >QED. Rant/Rave Mode Off. Stepping down from soap box now... Come on, a cancelation doesn't mean the end of SwatKats or the degradation of SwatKats quality in latter release, maybe this could just be a rest time for making the SwatKats into a better series than ever ("SwatKats : The New Radical Squadron" maybe ?), who knows ? maybe you could be the one that will making the new SwatKats series. Then again if it's takes 30 years (No new Kats episode in 30 years), then it's going to be a totaly new series. > David Minter > mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net > ( What an original signature! ) BTW I just visit rat.org and I didn't saw Kay Chang "Razor Nemesis" in the story directory, Kay ! are the story typing into the computer is done yet ? From flogistn@netaxs.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 08:09:02 -0500 Subject: Regarding letters to HB, etc. My worthy friends, I have read with not a small amount of cringing the text of some of the letters being written to Turner Broadcasting and to Hannah-Barbera, and I feel it necessary to give a gentle reminder to be careful of wording. Remember, we want these people to listen to us. They are not evil; they are not sinister automatons. They can be reasoned with. To do so, however, we must make sure that our letters are taken seriously. Angry words, an excess of exclamation points, and insulting wording just make recipients shake their heads and throw the letter in the trash. "Just another crazy fan," they will say. The letter itself defeats its purpose. Consider the difference between the following: "I am very disappointed to see Swat Kats cancelled. It was one of a very few cartoons that is enjoyable enough to watch every week, and I know that there is a very large and loyal fan following..." vs. "ARE YOU PEOPLE OUT OF YOUR MINDS????" Which one, gentle fans, is going to be read through to the end? ----- Dr. Samuel Conway Senior Staff Fan Letter Writer Avid Therapeutics Philadelphia, PA flogistn@netaxs.com I really do look like Dr. Konway, but older and fatter. Ask Dana. From C.Carter@ulst.ac.uk Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: C.Carter@ulst.ac.uk Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 19:26:44 GMT Subject: RE: Can the TurboKat swim ? I don't know about converting, but in at least one episode ("Mutation city", I think) it does get submerged and then fly out again. I assume the jet engines must be specially modified to work on water as well as air! Ben Carter (c.carter@ulst.ac.uk, ben@gunk.demon.co.uk very soon!) From erudnick@pica.army.mil Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: Ed Rudnicki Date: Mon, 4 Dec 95 14:35:43 EST Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) >> Ah, "Southern Sunshine..." I'm sorry. I don't know where that came >>from. :> Well, I knew I was spot on when I took a stab at Turner with the >>Quest jab, but I never thought they'd come out and say it! Well, I for one, >>would rather the SWAT Kats die a graceful death than have them recycled as >>"The SWAT Kats vs. the Cyber Cy-Kat-as!" > >When you mean graceful death, do you mean a great movie or an great episode >that end the SwatKats series (For temporary at least :-) ) ? or do you mean >T-Bone turning into "Doomsday" and crash the TurboKat in a suicidal attack >run (Or something like that) ? or do you mean a total cancelation (Never >going to be build as a new series again) ? Well I wouldn't mind seeing for the Kats what was done with Alien Nation: the series had a sequel movie that was sufficiently open ended to allow for another sequel. >>They ran that new Quest movie into >>the ground, only to prove the level of crap that Turner can a property into >>to! And, I don't want that to happen to my beloved SWAT Kats! Enough said. >>QED. Rant/Rave Mode Off. Stepping down from soap box now... Well the Quest movie was the last of the "old" Quest, so blanketing TNT with it gets the character back in the "public eye", priming the potential audience for the new series. Sorry TedCo, but it didn't work for me. Ed From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 11:40:23 -0800 Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) In another post that seems quoter-proof, David Minter wrote: >> However, your comments are taken seriously and greatly appreciated. As >>Jonny Quest has developed a huge following and spun-off new series and TV >>movies, perhaps SWATKats will as well. Let's just hope that it doesn't take >>30 years! > > > Ah, "Southern Sunshine..." I'm sorry. I don't know where that came >from. :> Well, I knew I was spot on when I took a stab at Turner with the >Quest jab, but I never thought they'd come out and say it! Well, I for one, >would rather the SWAT Kats die a graceful death than have them recycled as >"The SWAT Kats vs. the Cyber Cy-Kat-as!" They ran that new Quest movie into >the ground, only to prove the level of crap that Turner can a property into >to! And, I don't want that to happen to my beloved SWAT Kats! Enough said. >QED. Rant/Rave Mode Off. Stepping down from soap box now... Heh. Someone on the phone brought up an interesting question. If Turner did decide that finishing the last three episodes was a good idea, but the trade-off would be obviously cheap animation, would we rather leave things as they are? That's a tough question. _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 11:32:50 -0800 Subject: What say we try this again... >To: kats@bort.mv.net >From: MATT WEBER >Subject: Re: How many vehicle does the SwatKats has ? > > >>The Cyclotron, the SwatKats land vehicle, Two kats can fit into this >>The ThunderTruck the SwatKats land vehicle, Two kats can fit into this >vehicle. >>The TurboKat the SwatKats main vehicle, Two kats can fit into this vehicle. >>The SandKat the SwatKats sand vehicle, the Kat capacity maybe as same as >>The Jetski the SwatKats water vehicle, can only fit one Kat. >> >Also: >The "TurboMole" used in "Caverns of Horror". >The "ATV/convert-a-submarine" used in "Katastrophe". >The "jet-buggy" used in "Bride of the Pastmaster". >The "jet-packs" also used in "Caverns of Horror". >The "Ejektor seats" would probably be considered a vehicle since they can be >controlled in flight. >I remember Razor using some type of hang-glider that deployed like a >parachute in one of the eps. > >Oh, yeah, what about the Tow-truck that converts into some kinda off-road >buggy? Is that the same thing as the ThunderTruck? > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us play: matt_w@beta.delphi.com >NOTE: This area under construction. Watch for falling anvils. >--------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 11:34:25 -0800 Subject: Matt's stuff to list: forwarded... >To: kats@bort.mv.net >From: MATT WEBER >Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor > >More extraneous >'s removed... > >>>Yep. Her regular Kamera-Kat is named "Rob", I think. >>In "Caverns of Horror" Annie called him "Johnny". "Rob" may be the name >>of the Kats Eye News chopper pilot. I seem to remember her talking to him, >>but I can't remember the ep. Annie asked him to get closer to the action >>and he said something like, "..after what did to those Enforcer >>choppers?! No way!" I'll have to go through my tapes. > >Ok, I figured it out... In "The Wrath of Dark Kat", Annie did ask the >chopper pilot to get closer to Dark Kat's ship. His name is in fact: >"Rob". "Johnny" is the name of the camerakat. > >>I wonder what the deal was with the significance of "MegaLITH City" was in >>"Bride of the Pastmaster"? It always seemed rather a strange choice to me. > >IMO, it's a play on words with either the Pastmaster's tower resembling a >monolith, or the towers inside the walls of Megalith city. Just a guess, tho.. > >>>How does she get the SwatKats communicator ? >>It isn't shown anywhere that I can recall, but the Kat guys gave Callie the >>communicator before we see them in any episodes. >> >>Just saw "Mutation City" today, and she looks great on those suit, it's too >>bad that the episode doesn't include more Callie. :-( > >Heh. Funny, I thought they should have included more Callie in "The Wrath of >Dark Kat". More specifically, I think they should have done a complete >episode on the "flashback" the guys had about being kicked out of the >Enforcers & their initial contact with Callie. It could have been a _great_ >opportunity for a character development story. > >>Strangely, "Razor" is played by the same voice-actor that does "Donatello" >>in the Ninja Turtles cartoon - with *that* character giving a communicator >>to April O'Neil in much the same fashion as Razor must have to Callie. >>Barry Gordon must really like being cast as a gadget-whiz with a penchant >>for giving away his toys to lovely ladies! > >:) Yeah, I've heard of actors being type-cast, but a _voice-actor_??! >Does Barry also do the voice of the rabbit/bunny in the Quik chocolate-milk >commercials? > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us play: matt_w@beta.delphi.com >NOTE: This area under construction. Watch for falling anvils. >--------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 11:35:48 -0800 Subject: postmaster@list.forward.com writes: >To: kats@bort.mv.net >From: MATT WEBER >Subject: Re: Katseye News Special Report! > >At 12:10 AM 12/1/95 -0800, you wrote: > >>Next, the puzzling entity that is the Turner Organization has done it >again. In California and >>the Western States at least, there is apparently a rather huge restaurant >chain called "Carl Jr.'s" >>or something. Well, there's a big Kats promotion coming up *very* shortly, >and Gordy Toy >>has supplied a bunch of "Happy Meal" style Kat toys to give away. I'm >fairly sure that these >>things may be the same things given away in the "White Castle" promotion on >the East Coast >>some time ago, but who knows? Maybe someone living in the area concerned >could snag >>a whack of these things and offer 'em up to the geographically >disadvantaged like myself and >>others. > >Yes! Please, anyone who can get ahold of these toys -- get a bunch of 'em! >I would've gotten 'em at White Castle had I even known they were promoting >the Kats.. > >>SwatKats watches have been made, and the Tremblay Bros. are awaiting their >first sample >>from overseas in advance of the first shipment. They should be available >in Toys R Us, Wal-Mart, > >Cool! I thought I heard from a previous post that the watches were >_already_ available. Sooo.. >I've been scrounging around at every *-mart in the area! (DOH!) I have come >across some Hanna-Barbera watches ala WB & Disney style. Only seen Fred >Flinstone so far. Do you know what "style" the watches will be? (i.e. >really small watches for kiddies only or the higher quality WB watches we've >all seen)? > >>K-Mart etc in the 'States at least, but still no word on Canada. The Bros. >shopped around >>the California X-Mart's and so on, and report that there's a number of >Kat-toys around - pretty >>much the only thing going at the moment other than "Toy Story". If you >haven't got yours yet, >>now's the time. > >Number of Kat-toys? What kinda numbers are we talkin' here? Please email >me so I can add to my list if anyone has additional information available. >(Hmm.. sounds like I'm starting a new part for the FAQ...) > >4 action figures: > 6" poseable action figure "Razor" weapon: Cross Bow Asst. #0366 Remco Toys > 6" poseable action figure "T-Bone" weapon: Flying Fist Asst. #0366 >Remco Toys > 6" poseable action figure "Dr. Viper" weapon: Slime Gun Asst. #0366 >Remco Toys > 6" poseable action figure "Dark Kat" weapon: Extra Death Ray Asst. #0366 >Remco Toys > >3 video tapes: > Volume 1: Strike of Dark Kat 45 mins. Turner Home Entertainment ISBN >1-56039-372-6 > Volume 2: Deadly Dr. Viper 45 mins. Turner Home Entertainment ISBN >1-56039-371-8 > Volume 3: Metallikats Attack 45 mins. Turner Home Entertainment ISBN >1-56039-373-4 > >2 hand held electronic LCD games: > Micro Games of America MGA-237 w/ blue control buttons (smaller packaging) > Micro Games of America MGA-237 w/ orange control buttons (larger packaging) > >1 Poster (no longer available) > American Arts & Graphics, Inc. PC1270 SWAT KATS > >1 SNES video game cartridge: > Hudson Soft (I don't have any other info) > >I've also heard that there's a set of hand-cuffs available, but I haven't >seen them yet. > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us play: matt_w@beta.delphi.com >NOTE: This area under construction. Watch for falling anvils. >--------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From mbotwin@ny.psca.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: Mitch Botwin Date: Mon, 4 Dec 95 16:00:05 -0500 Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) Begin forwarded message: From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 11:40:23 -0800 X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net In another post that seems quoter-proof, David Minter wrote: >> However, your comments are taken seriously and greatly = appreciated. As >>Jonny Quest has developed a huge following and spun-off new = series and TV >>movies, perhaps SWATKats will as well. Let's just hope that it = doesn't take >>30 years! > > > Ah, "Southern Sunshine..." I'm sorry. I don't know where = that came >from. :> Well, I knew I was spot on when I took a stab at Turner = with the >Quest jab, but I never thought they'd come out and say it! Well, = I for one, >would rather the SWAT Kats die a graceful death than have them = recycled as >"The SWAT Kats vs. the Cyber Cy-Kat-as!" They ran that new Quest = movie into >the ground, only to prove the level of crap that Turner can a = property into >to! And, I don't want that to happen to my beloved SWAT Kats! = Enough said. >QED. Rant/Rave Mode Off. Stepping down from soap box now... %Heh. Someone on the phone brought up an interesting question. If = Turner did decide %that finishing the last three episodes was a good idea, but the = trade-off would be obviously %cheap animation, would we rather leave things as they are? = That's a tough question. The choice between new adventures with a lessening of the product, = to me, would be=20 prefered to no product. If the Kats are being produced there is = always a chance to improve the quality. It nothing is being done...... _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original = Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return = address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky = Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 16:53:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) I wouldn't mind seeing the last 3 eps even if it was a little cheaper. So what if there's no shading? Ok, you're right. Shading has a lot to do with it..... A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 17:03:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: SK T-Shirts In an EXTREAMLY previous article, Field wrote something like: > Field is a genius and will make her own T. Good idea! I've printed stuff from rat.org, got an iron-on transfer pen, and traced the backs of the printouts and ironed it on. I have many poses of razor, t-bone, and I also have callie and feral. I also got some Marvy(c) The Fabric Pen and am coloring them in right now. Those fabric color pens are really good, but each one is about $2.50 a piece!!! MMMEEEOOOWWW!!!! Expensive! Spent $17.00 on the colors I needed. A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 08:43:39 +0700 Subject: Re: What say we try this again... Thanks chance ! I now got three message that was missing before, BTW I will send the message on the "Question about the Deputy Mayor" thread again. From lsetnor@got.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: lsetnor@got.net (Leslie Setnor) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 19:10:15 -0800 Subject: Re: Can the TurboKat swim ? >I know that this is silly question, but can the TurboKat swim ? you know ! >submersible, underwater, water proof, and all that underwatery stuff. I >know that T-Bone doesn't like water, but does the TurboKat can turn into a >some sort of sub ? Scientificly, no. But hey, this is a cartoon, the same one that has gadgets of every concievable nature that all fit into one jet. And after the aliens helped them upgrade a bit.... yeah, it's possible. Karen Setnor lsetnor@got.net mcjd61b@prodigy.com Of course is not without some irony that I'm writing a high-sea adventure story and of course had to name the main boat "TurboKat". From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 08:43:26 +0700 Subject: RE: Can the TurboKat swim ? >I don't know about converting, but in at least one episode ("Mutation city", >I think) it does get submerged and then fly out again. Yes, I saw it too on "Mutation city", that's why I curious on the TurboKat submersible ability, of course T-Bone aren't to hot to swiming in the water with the TurboKat. :-) >I assume the jet engines must be specially modified to work on water as >well as air! They also work in orbital flight in "When strikes Mutilor", I think they call it "sub-orbital" mode, maybe the TurboKat has some oxygen in the TurboKat tank for flying in a non air enviroment. >Ben Carter (c.carter@ulst.ac.uk, ben@gunk.demon.co.uk very soon!) -Still looking for someone to co-authored a Kat story- From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 08:43:36 +0700 Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) >>>Well, I for one, >>>would rather the SWAT Kats die a graceful death than have them recycled as >>>"The SWAT Kats vs. the Cyber Cy-Kat-as!" >> >>When you mean graceful death, do you mean a great movie or an great episode >>that end the SwatKats series (For temporary at least :-) ) ? or do you mean >>T-Bone turning into "Doomsday" and crash the TurboKat in a suicidal attack >>run (Or something like that) ? or do you mean a total cancelation (Never >>going to be build as a new series again) ? > >Well I wouldn't mind seeing for the Kats what was done with Alien >Nation: the series had a sequel movie that was sufficiently open >ended to allow for another sequel. A movie could be great way to attract new fans to the SwatKats, and it could be a great gimmick to sell Kats merchandise. >Ed From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 08:43:23 +0700 Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Hi, I'm sorry if this was send to this list before, but since I didn't get this back from the list, so I wasn't so sure is this message was already distributed, so here I go again. -------------------------------------------------- TSA CODED TRANSMISSION BEGIN -------------------------------------------------- >>The bottom line is that Swat Kats maybe need a new character if Callie >>going ever to get an assistan, Who knows ! maybe if the Kats series ever >>going to be revived again, we will see an assistan for Callie. (I personaly >>have a character for the assistant, but you may think that it's silly) (Stuff about Turner puncturing the TurboKat fuel tank is deleted for cutting down the reply size, BTW thanks for the info !) >Oh yeah, what exactly is your idea for an assistant for Deputy Mayor Briggs? >There's no such thing as "silly" on this mailing list Yes, you maybe right, after all nobody here in this list think SwatKats is "silly". :-) >- we've all taken turns! What do you mean by taken turns ? Oh, taken turns to get silly, OK ! Let's get silly. :-) Her assistant should be.....,well it should be...., well I think I better tell it on my story. :-), I'm still nervous about this. :-) PS: I want to write a story about this, but I cann't write a story, I can type, but I cann't write, does anybody here want to help me on making a Kat story ? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 08:43:34 +0700 Subject: Re: How many vehicle does the SwatKats has ? >>The Cyclotron, the SwatKats land vehicle, Two kats can fit into this >>The ThunderTruck the SwatKats land vehicle, Two kats can fit into this >vehicle. >>The TurboKat the SwatKats main vehicle, Two kats can fit into this vehicle. >>The SandKat the SwatKats sand vehicle, the Kat capacity maybe as same as >>The Jetski the SwatKats water vehicle, can only fit one Kat. >> >Also: >The "TurboMole" used in "Caverns of Horror". Are the TurboMole is a modified TurboKat ? >The "ATV/convert-a-submarine" used in "Katastrophe". ATV ? "all terrain vehicle" maybe ? am I right on this ? >The "jet-buggy" used in "Bride of the Pastmaster". This also the the TurboKat middle jet engine, am I right ? >The "jet-packs" also used in "Caverns of Horror". Are the "Jet-packs" also used in "When strikes Mutilor" ? I saw the SwatKats used it to escaped from the ThunderTruck. >The "Ejektor seats" would probably be considered a vehicle since they can be >controlled in flight. The "ejector seat got some" rockets on it sides, so I better put it in my SwatKats vehicle list. >I remember Razor using some type of hang-glider that deployed like a >parachute in one of the eps. I think that is the ejector seat parachute (It's a parachute shaped like a glider), the SwatKats used while in _Dinosaurville_. :-) on the "The Pastmaster always ring twice". >Oh, yeah, what about the Tow-truck that converts into some kinda off-road >buggy? Is that the same thing as the ThunderTruck? Yes it's the ThunderTruck, I saw the Kat guys converting it into the ThunderTruck in "When strikes Mutilor", and Razor said "Scratch one ThunderTruck !" when it blows up. From mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net (David Minter) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 20:32:46 -0600 Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) >In another post that seems quoter-proof, David Minter wrote: Um. Well. Okay... :> >> Ah, "Southern Sunshine..." I'm sorry. I don't know where that came >>from. :> Well, I knew I was spot on when I took a stab at Turner with the >>Quest jab, but I never thought they'd come out and say it! Well, I for one, >>would rather the SWAT Kats die a graceful death than have them recycled as >>"The SWAT Kats vs. the Cyber Cy-Kat-as!" They ran that new Quest movie into >>the ground, only to prove the level of crap that Turner can a property into >>to! And, I don't want that to happen to my beloved SWAT Kats! Enough said. >>QED. Rant/Rave Mode Off. Stepping down from soap box now... >Heh. Someone on the phone brought up an interesting question. If Turner did >that finishing the last three episodes was a good idea, but the trade-off would >cheap animation, would we rather leave things as they are? That's a tough >question. Yes. As I've made well known (), I would have some reservations about this. It would depend on the scripts. I will take stick figure animation with a good script over flashy animation with a terrible script. I would accept the cheap animation if the script warranted that it was good. However, in order to make this decision, the cheap animation would have to exist in the first place for me to see the episode and thus to get the script. And, were this to happen, I'd probably have a prejudice against it in the first place. Man, I hate paradoxes! :> David Minter mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net ( What an original signature! ) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 08:43:19 +0700 Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Hi, I'm sorry if this was send to this list before, but since I didn't get this back from the list, so I wasn't so sure is this message was already distributed, so here I go again. -------------------------------------------------- TSA CODED TRANSMISSION BEGIN -------------------------------------------------- >>BTW how does she meet Manx anyway ? > >You never find out much of that kind of background stuff from anybody I never was actually really expect to know all about that of kind background stuff from here, I just decided to started a disscusion by asking some question, after all I have to start with something, don't I ? (You did say that everything about the Kats is fair game) (despite repeatedly asking), Well, I could just do that, but that will be really annoying for everybody in the list, so I better not. ;-) >and I think it has its upside and downside. It has some leftside and rightside too. :-) >We never really _know_ how she meets Manx, Now this is really a serious question, the answer could just determine her _position_ as a Deputy Mayor. >or how old the Kat Guys really are, Hey it's a cartoon, cartoon characters never get old :-), I decided to ask that question, because I know that the people on this list like guessing age. >or how they met each other, If you ask me, I think that Jake and Chances meet at the Enforcer academy. >or if Callie really _does_ appear in a "Swimsuit Issue" What ! ( look suprised) BTW do you know more info in which particular issue she on ? He.he.he., just kidding ! :-) >- but just think of all the fork-in-the-road possibilities for fanfic! Ok, I will try to write some fanfic story, does anybody here want to help me write a story ? I do lously at writing a story, so I'm going to need some help. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 08:43:28 +0700 Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor >More extraneous >'s removed... > >>>Yep. Her regular Kamera-Kat is named "Rob", I think. >>In "Caverns of Horror" Annie called him "Johnny". "Rob" may be the name >>of the Kats Eye News chopper pilot. I seem to remember her talking to him, >>but I can't remember the ep. Annie asked him to get closer to the action >>and he said something like, "..after what did to those Enforcer >>choppers?! No way!" I'll have to go through my tapes. > >Ok, I figured it out... In "The Wrath of Dark Kat", Annie did ask the >chopper pilot to get closer to Dark Kat's ship. His name is in fact: >"Rob". "Johnny" is the name of the camerakat. Ok, the chopper pilot is Rob and the camerakat is Johnny, glad could get that straight :-), of course the helichopter blade was chopped by Dark Kat. >>I wonder what the deal was with the significance of "MegaLITH City" was in >>"Bride of the Pastmaster"? It always seemed rather a strange choice to me. > >IMO, it's a play on words with either the Pastmaster's tower resembling a >monolith, or the towers inside the walls of Megalith city. Just a guess, tho.. Maybe this is the reason they call it Megalith city, because monolith is an _ancient thing_ and the city is in an _ancient time_, they maybe decided to add "lith" to the name, the "Mega" probaly comes from MegaKat city. >>>How does she get the SwatKats communicator ? >>It isn't shown anywhere that I can recall, but the Kat guys gave Callie the >>communicator before we see them in any episodes. >> >>Just saw "Mutation City" today, and she looks great on those suit, it's too >>bad that the episode doesn't include more Callie. :-( > >Heh. Funny, I thought they should have included more Callie in "The Wrath of >Dark Kat". Yes, but she ain't wearing the jogging suit on that episode, so the lack of Callie isn't very noticeable :-) , BTW the only non Callie episode (At least for the moment, I'm only watch 9 SwatKats epsiode, so that mean I lack the information) is "Razor edge", great episode, although I much prefer the episode with Callie on it. :-) >More specifically, I think they should have done a complete >episode on the "flashback" the guys had about being kicked out of the >Enforcers & their initial contact with Callie. It could have been a _great_ >opportunity for a character development story. But it would added an extra 5 minutes to include _the Callie encounters_ (Which isn't very necesary), I think the SwatKats give the communicator to Callie in they first encounter, but it could be great moment though. >>Strangely, "Razor" is played by the same voice-actor that does "Donatello" >>in the Ninja Turtles cartoon - with *that* character giving a communicator >>to April O'Neil in much the same fashion as Razor must have to Callie. >>Barry Gordon must really like being cast as a gadget-whiz with a penchant >>for giving away his toys to lovely ladies! > >:) Yeah, I've heard of actors being type-cast, but a _voice-actor_??! Maybe it's a new trend. :-) From mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net (David Minter) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 20:32:32 -0600 Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) >> Ah, "Southern Sunshine..." I'm sorry. I don't know where that came >>from. :> Well, I knew I was spot on when I took a stab at Turner with the >>Quest jab, but I never thought they'd come out and say it! Well, I for one, >>would rather the SWAT Kats die a graceful death than have them recycled as >>"The SWAT Kats vs. the Cyber Cy-Kat-as!" >When you mean graceful death, do you mean a great movie or an great episode >that end the SwatKats series (For temporary at least :-) ) ? or do you mean >T-Bone turning into "Doomsday" and crash the TurboKat in a suicidal attack >run (Or something like that) ? or do you mean a total cancelation (Never >going to be build as a new series again) ? [Everything else snipped because this answer applies to all the other pertinent questions.] I meant, I'd rather SWAT Kats remain off the air (even if forever) if the other option is a new series like the Jonny Quest movies or a series not handled the way it was before. The scripts were good, and an American cartoon actually put some good money into good animation. I would rather SWAT Kats "die" than to come back with a script like "JQ vs the Cyber Insects" and the animation thereof. For my money, no final episode is better than a watered down finale. I will admit my opinions are rather biased. I've seen too many things I ever liked cancelled for no good reason (they're not selling any merchandice that isn't out yet, silly creative changes, etc.), so I must apologize for any flippant words that may have given a misimpression towards anyone's hopes (or mine, for that matter) of SK returning to its former glory. David Minter mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net ( What an original signature! ) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 09:52:21 +0700 Subject: Re: Regarding letters to HB, etc. (A wise man words is deleted to cut down the reply size) >Consider the difference between the following: > >"I am very disappointed to see Swat Kats cancelled. It was one of a very few >cartoons that is enjoyable enough to watch every week, and I know that there >is a very large and loyal fan following..." > >vs. > >"ARE YOU PEOPLE OUT OF YOUR MINDS????" > >Which one, gentle fans, is going to be read through to the end? Take your notebook and start writing guys ! this guy is a pro on writing fans letter. :-) >----- >Dr. Samuel Conway >Senior Staff Fan Letter Writer >Avid Therapeutics > >I really do look like Dr. Konway, but older and fatter. Ask Dana. Hi Conway ! are you look like _Dr.Konway_ when you was young ? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 09:52:27 +0700 Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) >I wouldn't mind seeing the last 3 eps even if it was a little cheaper. So >what if there's no shading? Ok, you're right. Shading has a lot to do >with it..... Maybe if they do some explaining in the begining of those episode, it could be understandable, Here's what the explanation should be: The SwatKats (In their normal clothes) was walking and suddenly suprised when they see themself aren't what they used to look, then someguy (Kat like) comes and tell them that they have to cut the quality because of low budget that was given, Chance was suprised and said "Who told you to cut the budget !", and some voice appear from nowhere and said "So what !", they suprised (In fear) and said "No sir, just a little disccusion here, do not take that seriously", then they started to take their position and the series begin (with cheaper animation). Gee, I don't know that I could write that ! or they could make an episode that put the Kat guys in a VR world (A simple VR world, just wireframe graphics), where they was trap there by Hard Drive, and that will surely left out the job for drawing shading. :-) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 09:52:24 +0700 Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor <<" thingys>>> >>Does she has home ? I only saw her at city hall. >>Outside "business hours", she hasn't been seen anywhere other than City >>Hall (to my recollection). She *must* sleep somewhere - the car is too >>cramped, and the Garage is off-limits because it's a family show. > >So does it means that Callie house will remain one of SwatKats mysteries? >Just like her glasses? <<>> I don't think those are pajamas, after all it could be very embarasing if a Deputy Mayor is wearing pajamas in public places, but then again, those does look like pajamas. <<>> Which I don't intend to visit if I live in MegaKat city :-), BTW why are Manx living in apartement ? I thought that Mayor were supposed to live in a big Mansion. <<>> Maybe Callie only has two suit, one for work and one for the home, or all her suit probaly still in the laundry. :-) >>Lt. Steel inhabits a rather grey area as regards good kat/bad kat status. >>He _could_ be a cool character if he wasn't such a ambitious sod - >I think that Steel maybe just fall in the same catagory as Manx, likeable >but never going to mount to anything. <<>> Steel maybe is the one who play the part of the one who always trying to his success, but always fail while he's on his way to success, they always do this in every cartoon. <<>> From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 10:39:40 +0700 Subject: Re: Can the TurboKat swim ? >>I know that this is silly question, but can the TurboKat swim ? you know ! >>submersible, underwater, water proof, and all that underwatery stuff. I >>know that T-Bone doesn't like water, but does the TurboKat can turn into a >>some sort of sub ? > >Scientificly, no. But hey, this is a cartoon, the same one that has gadgets >of every concievable nature that all fit into one jet. Glad to know that I wasn't the only one that noticed that it's impossible to fit all the gadgets into the TurboKats :-), I know it's scientificly cann't be done, but are the SwatKats designed the TurboKat so that it can swim ? >And after the aliens helped them upgrade a bit.... yeah, it's possible. I think that they improved the TurboKat durability, but it seems that is they only thing that they do, Razor was a little bit affraid when T-Bone was doing a little _space age car wash_ near the returned water, BTW how does Felina returned to the ground in that episode ? are her uncle come to pick her up ? or are the SwatKats give her a ride ? or are she just fly from there with the UFO fighter ? >Karen Setnor >lsetnor@got.net >mcjd61b@prodigy.com > >Of course is not without some irony that I'm writing a high-sea adventure >story and of course had to name the main boat "TurboKat". Is the TurboKat going to be a boat or a sub ? will the adventure takes above the water or below the water ? From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 22:57:22 -0800 Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) >>Well I wouldn't mind seeing for the Kats what was done with Alien >>Nation: the series had a sequel movie that was sufficiently open >>ended to allow for another sequel. > >A movie could be great way to attract new fans to the SwatKats, and it >could be a great gimmick to sell Kats merchandise. Is is just me, or is this Usenet deja-vu? I mean, all the responses arrive before the original article... Anyway, the possiblity of OAV stuff probably hinges on how well the Home Vid Kat-releases do (that's just a guess). Fox realized that the f***ed up large with "Alien Nation"'s cancellation, so they did the * two* sequel movies to try and "apologize" (or recoup their losses - depends who you ask). Ted might brain up and do some OAV's with the Kat guys, but I wouldn't hold my breath at the moment. (BTW, "Cartoon Network" across the world is attracting a lot of fans to the Kats. They might want to try a better ac-figure release overseas and use the market as a guinea-pig for a similar thing here. Man, I get wishful around Christmas, don't I?) _____________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 17:15:29 +0700 Subject: How does Katkind measured their time ? In SwatKats we can see that their civilation is paralel to ours late 20 century civilation, but we still doesn't know how they use their years, are they based in 365 days ? or could they based on a sky object like a certain star or a certain moon (If the Kats planet has more than one moon ) ? what year does the SwatKats live in ? are their starting year is mark by a certain event (Like the day the SwatKats put the Pastmaster out of commision on medieval times) ? does anybody here want to put their opinion ? I'm sorry if what I'm asking is background information, but it could be a great discussion topic in this list. From jake@rat.org Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: jake@rat.org Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 02:33:46 -0800 Subject: Kat stuff Greetings listers! I'm pleasantly surprised by the success of the list since it was started a little over eight months ago. Looks like there are quite a bit of us who are rather forceful in voicing our opinions on the show! Unable to give most of the posts more than just a cursory inspection at best, I can't comment on any real details on the past few digests. However, I did see a few points that I wanted to note: The amphibious Turbokat: in today's SK ep that aired on the Cartoon Network ("The Dark Side of the SWAT Kats"), the evil Razor hits the jet with a DeadHead Missile and sends it plunging into the water (Megakat Bay?). A few seconds later, it resurfaces, with Razor commenting on how well the jet's "speed of heat" shields held up. However, I don't think the jet is completely waterproof without these shields; in "Mutation City" slime *was* leaking into the jet (remember how eager Razor was to eject from the jet, but T-Bone kept vetoing the idea?). Barry Gordon (Razor's voice): I recognized Barry Gordon as doing Razor's voice almost immediately from the first SK episode I saw ("Destructive Nature"). Razor sounds like TMNT's Donatello (and yes, he's also voiced by Barry Gordon -- d'oh! ;-), only slightly gruffier. Trivia tidbit: From a posting I did on the net some time ago about TMNT, I learned that Barry Gordon, president of the Screen Actors' Guild, is now a full-fledged lawyer. Think of the possible implications of *that*! What floored me even more, though, was learning that Charlie Adler voices T-Bone. T-Bone sounded nothing like any of the previous characters that I know Adler does (with the *possible* exception of Tale Spin's Maddog, but even that is stretching it). BTW, has anyone noticed how fragile the walls of Megakat City's buildings are? Apparently they can be broken just by slamming someone hard against them (cf. "Razor's Edge"). And finally, does Dr. Conway look like Dr. Konway? I know the answer, but I'm not telling. -- === Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com/razor@rat.org/jake@rat.org) === From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 06:48:46 -0800 Subject: Re: Can the TurboKat swim ? >>Scientificly, no. But hey, this is a cartoon, the same one that has gadgets >>of every concievable nature that all fit into one jet. > >Glad to know that I wasn't the only one that noticed that it's impossible >to fit all the gadgets into the TurboKats :-), I know it's scientificly >cann't be done, but are the SwatKats designed the TurboKat so that it can >swim ? In Lance Falk's script "Blackout" on the FTP site, there's a margin note directed at the H-B execs like Potamkin that would be perusing the script to the effect that "Yeah, I know the Physics are ridiculous - but this is a CARTOON!". When you're writing science-fiction-fantasy like the Kats in some episodes, the physics of a particular situation work simply because you want them to. >>Of course is not without some irony that I'm writing a high-sea adventure >>story and of course had to name the main boat "TurboKat". > >Is the TurboKat going to be a boat or a sub ? will the adventure takes >above the water or below the water ? "Yes" _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 06:48:40 -0800 Subject: Re: Regarding letters to HB, etc. >(A wise man words is deleted to cut down the reply size) > >>Consider the difference between the following: >> >>"I am very disappointed to see Swat Kats cancelled. It was one of a very few >>cartoons that is enjoyable enough to watch every week, and I know that there >>is a very large and loyal fan following..." >> >>vs. >> >>"ARE YOU PEOPLE OUT OF YOUR MINDS????" >> >>Which one, gentle fans, is going to be read through to the end? > >Take your notebook and start writing guys ! this guy is a pro on writing >fans letter. :-) Heh. You have no idea...how about a repost of your fan-letter, Doctor C? >>I really do look like Dr. Konway, but older and fatter. Ask Dana. > >Hi Conway ! are you look like _Dr.Konway_ when you was young ? Warning..shameless Web Site plug follows... You can see the actual character model sheet from H-B of "Doc Konway" on the rat.org site by downloading "DocKat.gif" (I think). On letter to H-B and Toonnet in general - Doc Konway pretty much covered the important stuff completely - but also be aware that shorter letters tend to get read more often than their longer brethren, and write what you feel in your own voice as opposed to trying to copy someone else. Many of the outstanding letters I've read concerning how much viewers like a show (from all ages) come from folks who *don't* write like Hemingway. _____________________________________________________________ From erudnick@pica.army.mil Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: Ed Rudnicki Date: Tue, 5 Dec 95 10:15:28 EST Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor >>>I wonder what the deal was with the significance of "MegaLITH City" was in >>>"Bride of the Pastmaster"? It always seemed rather a strange choice to me. >> >>IMO, it's a play on words with either the Pastmaster's tower resembling a >>monolith, or the towers inside the walls of Megalith city. Just a guess, tho.. > >Maybe this is the reason they call it Megalith city, because monolith is an >_ancient thing_ and the city is in an _ancient time_, they maybe decided to >add "lith" to the name, the "Mega" probaly comes from MegaKat city. Sheesh! A Monolith is a single large stone. A Megalith is a group. The thing at Stonehenge is a megalith. Megalith City _is_ a megalith; it just also happens to be a clever play on words on MegaKat as well. Ed From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 06:48:48 -0800 Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) >The SwatKats (In their normal clothes) was walking and suddenly suprised >when they see themself aren't what they used to look, then someguy (Kat >like) comes and tell them that they have to cut the quality because of low >budget that was given, Chance was suprised and said "Who told you to cut >the budget !" Heh. >or they could make an episode that put the Kat guys in a VR world (A simple >VR world, just wireframe graphics), where they was trap there by Hard >Drive, and that will surely left out the job for drawing shading. :-) Just an aside, but normally the first thing to go during budget trimming is the shading/inking of a toon. Some of the Kats eps obviously had much higher budgets than others ("Mutation City", "Deadly Pyramid", "Unlikely Alloys"), and it shows. The writing was pretty fine in all of them, but the extra attention paid to the art in those ones makes all the difference. There's a beautiful shot of Razor running against a typical Anime "blurred colored-streak" background in "Bright and Shiny Future" (I think?) that could've easily been edited out entirely. Someone who liked Razor drew that sequence, and the money was well spent. The execs wouldn't be able to see why such an "extra" expenditure was necessary, but it added so much more to the episode for me, and I'm probably not the only one. Kats is one of the few animated series where the general quality actually went *up* in the second season; consider the artwork in the second seasons of "Mighty Max", "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes", "Animaniacs" and so on. It certainly didn't get any better in either of *those* cases. _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 06:48:33 -0800 Subject: Re: How many vehicle does the SwatKats has ? Edo wrote: >>The "TurboMole" used in "Caverns of Horror". > >Are the TurboMole is a modified TurboKat ? Nein. It's a vehicle in its own right - similar to the standard sci-fi "digging machine" but way cooler. >>The "jet-buggy" used in "Bride of the Pastmaster". >This also the the TurboKat middle jet engine, am I right ? Yep. I forgot about this one. >>The "Ejektor seats" would probably be considered a vehicle since they can be >>controlled in flight. >The "ejector seat got some" rockets on it sides, so I better put it in my >SwatKats vehicle list. The ejector-seat flies for 20 miles under its own power, so it could be considered a vehicle. The "ejector seat parachute" you mention from "Pastmaster Always Rings Twice" is actually the same ejector seat, just that when the fuel is exhausted, it parachute lands to earth. >>Oh, yeah, what about the Tow-truck that converts into some kinda off-road >>buggy? Is that the same thing as the ThunderTruck? > >Yes it's the ThunderTruck, I saw the Kat guys converting it into the >ThunderTruck in "When strikes Mutilor", and Razor said "Scratch one >ThunderTruck !" when it blows up. Yeah, "Thundertruck" is what results when the good ol' Tow Truck morphs. In "When Strikes Mutilor", the episode was originally written without the lengthy transformation sequence because the writer felt it broke up the pacing too much. The Story Editor put it in anyways, and you can see the result. Razor and T-Bone have nothing but "bad vehicle days" when using the "Cyclotron"; I don't think it's ever survived an episode intact - damn thing is a jinx! My favourite Cyclotron scenes are the Evel Kneivel style "jump" in "Deadly Pyramid" - the scene with the two Kat guys riding it on the open road from the same ep, and those shots with Razor firing missiles from it in "Razor's Edge" and I think "Enter the MadKat". _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 06:48:43 -0800 Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) > [Everything else snipped because this answer applies to all the other >pertinent questions.] I meant, I'd rather SWAT Kats remain off the air >(even if forever) if the other option is a new series like the Jonny Quest >movies or a series not handled the way it was before. The scripts were >good, and an American cartoon actually put some good money into good >animation. I would rather SWAT Kats "die" than to come back with a script >like "JQ vs the Cyber Insects" and the animation thereof. For my money, no >final episode is better than a watered down finale. There's some trepidation in H-B circles that Mario Piluso's "Cyber Ci-Kat-a" script will adversely colour public opinion of the JQ revival. In other words, some TNT execs are going " D'oh!". A friend who's a Story Editor couldn't believe that this particular script got approved, and didn't stick around long enough to see who was guilty in the credits. I think that this shows the Turner execs really have no clue as to why people liked the original "Jonny", and I think it showed in their treatment of SwatKats too. > I will admit my opinions are rather biased. I've seen too many things >I ever liked cancelled for no good reason (they're not selling any >merchandice that isn't out yet, silly creative changes, etc.), so I must >apologize for any flippant words that may have given a misimpression towards >anyone's hopes (or mine, for that matter) of SK returning to its former glory. Yeah. Neilsen could save a lot of money on "People Meters" if they just took note of what I watch, and cancelled it. It'd be a lot more efficient, and the results would be the same in the end anyway. Most cancellations like 'Kats don't really occur based solely on ratings - there's usually someone in the executive heirarchy that wasn't too thrilled with the project in the first place. This is what killed "Alien Nation" and the original "Star Trek"...look how 'sensible' those decisions are regarded now. _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 06:48:36 -0800 Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor >Yes, but she ain't wearing the jogging suit on that episode, so the lack of >Callie isn't very noticeable :-) , BTW the only non Callie episode (At >least for the moment, I'm only watch 9 SwatKats epsiode, so that mean I >lack the information) is "Razor edge", great episode, although I much >prefer the episode with Callie on it. :-) "Razor's Edge" is a fine episode without any alterations, and is one of the reasons I like Razor as much as I do. Imagine my surprise to hear that the freelance writer responsible, Mark Saraceni, copied the same plot elements verbatim on to an episode of "Biker Mice from Mars". >More specifically, I think they should have done a complete >episode on the "flashback" the guys had about being kicked out of the >Enforcers & their initial contact with Callie. It could have been a _great_ >opportunity for a character development story. The first 13 or so eps of a series are supposed to open a series of doors that they can go through later on when the series goes to a standard syndication package of 65. That's why we had things late in the second season like "The Origin of Dr. Viper" and the incomplete "Turmoil 2:The Revenge". You can bet that along with the second instalment of "MadKat" and "The Ghost Pilot" that we would've seen more on the Kat guys origins - and I doubt that someone like Lance Falk would've left the Kat guys' early career and Academy days slip by unexplored. You sort of got a hint of T-Bone's background as a "wrong side of the tracks" Kat in "Bright and Shiny Future". I kind of picture Razor as one of those over-bright kids in school that always stick out like a sore thumb. >>:) Yeah, I've heard of actors being type-cast, but a _voice-actor_??! > >Maybe it's a new trend. :-) Happens all the time. One of the reasons Barry got the gig on Kats is that the Tremblays had TMNT in mind when they came up with the series idea. Barry also does the voice for the "Quik Bunny" and a few other things - normally because advertising producers recognize a performance from something like the Kats and say "I want that voice!". Rob Paulsen and Frank Welker often get jobs based on their particular specialties as well (Paulsen is not only "Mighty Max", "PJ" and "Yakko Warner"...he's also "Hard Drive"!) _____________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 21:41:05 +0700 Subject: Re: Kat stuff >Greetings listers! > >I'm pleasantly surprised by the success of the list since it was started a >little over eight months ago. Looks like there are quite a bit of us who >are rather forceful in voicing our opinions on the show! > >Unable to give most of the posts more than just a cursory inspection at >best, I can't comment on any real details on the past few digests. >However, I did see a few points that I wanted to note: > >The amphibious Turbokat: in today's SK ep that aired on the Cartoon >Network ("The Dark Side of the SWAT Kats"), the evil Razor hits the jet >with a DeadHead Missile and sends it plunging into the water (Megakat >Bay?). A few seconds later, it resurfaces, with Razor commenting on how >well the jet's "speed of heat" shields held up. What is the "speed of heat" shields ? sorry ! but I haven't watched all the episode. >However, I don't think the >jet is completely waterproof without these shields; in "Mutation City" >slime *was* leaking into the jet I think that was acid that leaking into the TurboKat, the mutated creature is puting acid into the TurboKat, and about this waterproof, I think the TurboKat is waterproof, I saw the TurboKat flying on near orbit alttitude in "When strikes Mutilor", so it gotta be airproof and waterproof. >(remember how eager Razor was to eject from the jet, but T-Bone kept >revoting the idea?). T-Bone seems not to hot about liquid enviroment. >Barry Gordon (Razor's voice): I recognized Barry Gordon as doing Razor's >voice almost immediately from the first SK episode I saw ("Destructive >Nature"). Razor sounds like TMNT's Donatello (and yes, he's also voiced by >Barry Gordon -- d'oh! ;-), only slightly gruffier. I also noticed the same thing, but in the "When strikes Mutilor", Razor does sound like _Donatello_ when Razor is upgrading the TurboKat in that episode. >What floored me even more, though, was learning that Charlie Adler voices >T-Bone. T-Bone sounded nothing like any of the previous characters that I >know Adler does (with the *possible* exception of Tale Spin's Maddog, but >even that is stretching it). Charlie Adler seems to be a great voice cast for any cartoon series, his voice is totaly different from any other character that I have known. >BTW, has anyone noticed how fragile the walls of Megakat City's buildings >are? Apparently they can be broken just by slamming someone hard against >them (cf. "Razor's Edge"). Maybe those building is made by a cheap cement, maybe they using the same cement the SwatKats use for traping villain. >And finally, does Dr. Conway look like Dr. Konway? I know the answer, but >I'm not telling. Come on ! tell us the truth, does Dr. Conway look like Dr. Konway ? I'm curious. :-) >-- >=== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com/razor@rat.org/jake@rat.org) === From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 21:41:01 +0700 Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) >>> Ah, "Southern Sunshine..." I'm sorry. I don't know where that came >>>from. :> Well, I knew I was spot on when I took a stab at Turner with the >>>Quest jab, but I never thought they'd come out and say it! Well, I for one, >>>would rather the SWAT Kats die a graceful death than have them recycled as >>>"The SWAT Kats vs. the Cyber Cy-Kat-as!" > > >>When you mean graceful death, do you mean a great movie or a great episode >>that end the SwatKats series (For temporary at least :-) ) ? or do you mean >>T-Bone turning into "Doomsday" and crash the TurboKat in a suicidal attack >>run (Or something like that) ? or do you mean a total cancelation (Never >>going to be build as a new series again) ? > > > [Everything else snipped because this answer applies to all the other >pertinent questions.] I meant, I'd rather SWAT Kats remain off the air >(even if forever) if the other option is a new series like the Jonny Quest >movies or a series not handled the way it was before. Ok, let's presume there is a new SwatKats series, and it is bad (But can be fixed), would you watched and send a message to HB to correct their mistake ? or do you turn off your TV ? (note: the question above is directed to everybody in the list) >The scripts were >good, and an American cartoon actually put some good money into good >animation. I would rather SWAT Kats "die" than to come back with a script >like "JQ vs the Cyber Insects" and the animation thereof. For my money, no >final episode is better than a watered down finale. Ok people ! which do you choose, a final episode or watered down finale ? > I will admit my opinions are rather biased. I've seen too many things >I ever liked cancelled for no good reason (they're not selling any >merchandice that isn't out yet, silly creative changes, etc.), I think that you must have been suffering from cancelatium (A common diesease that struck someone that is has too many his favorite thing been taken away, the cure is to watch the old series back and talk about it to a friend) >so I must >apologize for any flippant words that may have given a misimpression towards >anyone's hopes (or mine, for that matter) of SK returning to its former glory. No, your word not giving the wrong impression (At least I'm think I getting the message), I think that (If I'm right) you don't want to see SwatKats suffered from low quality, and you rather not to watch SwatKats ever again if it isn't carry it's original charm, because of that the new series probaly will ruin the original SwatKats image, and what loyal fans that wouldn't be disappointed if their favorite show is gone bad ? You just don't want the SwatKats to be resurface as a low quality cartoon, I understand what you say about honorable death (aka "Permament cancelation") to the SwatKats, and I know that you will be the one that be happy (and every SwatKats fan) if SwatKats back in the air again as a _better_ than ever show. > David Minter > mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net > ( What an original signature! ) From flogistn@netaxs.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 11:52:11 -0500 Subject: Konway's fan letter, and Hemingway Are you implying, sir, that I write like Hemingway?? I think my writing is good. It is the kind of writing that is good. It is a good kind of writing. It is the kind of writing that men with large cojones sit around a fire and say, "It is good writing," as the sun sets over the bulls in the fields, bulls whose writing is not as good, but the men write well. The writing is good. The bulls do not write well, as men do. The bulls mate with cows, as that is what drives a bull, but the men who sit around the fire and say that the writing is good are driven by other things..... So there! ;) Anyway, is the text of the fan letter, and the response which I got, not already on the web site? Not being a web cruiser, I thought that it was. If, however, it does not exist there, I'll dig it up and see about reposting it. Actually, if anyone has saved that text, could someone please send it along? It would save me the chore of retyping it with my poor old, arthritic fingers. They are good fingers, but they are arthritic. It is a good kind of arthritis, though. The kind of arthritis that is good. My knuckles are huge with the goodness of it. It is the kind of arthritis that men with large knuckles sit... From erudnick@pica.army.mil Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: Ed Rudnicki Date: Tue, 5 Dec 95 13:07:28 EST Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) >>>Well I wouldn't mind seeing for the Kats what was done with Alien >>>Nation: the series had a sequel movie that was sufficiently open >>>ended to allow for another sequel. >> >>A movie could be great way to attract new fans to the SwatKats, and it >>could be a great gimmick to sell Kats merchandise. > >Anyway, the possiblity of OAV stuff probably hinges on how well the Home Vid Kat-releases >do (that's just a guess). Fox realized that the f***ed up large with "Alien Nation"'s cancellation, >so they did the * two* sequel movies to try and "apologize" (or recoup their losses - depends who >you ask). Ted might brain up and do some OAV's with the Kat guys, but I wouldn't hold my >breath at the moment. OTOH, TedCo likes money. RoJ (which to respond to a posting of yours elsewhere, is none too impressive because it was actually cobbled together from four TV series eps) and LBT2 showed that there's tons of money to be made in D2Vs. LBT3 comes out in a few weeks, and I think in the spring the third Aladdin will blow people away in terms of quality. At that point TedCo/H-B would have to look seriously at what they could put out into this market. I think with Alien Nation Fox also wanted to tie up the loose ends of the series. And note that they left it open-ended enough for a second sequel if the first did well, which apparently it did. >(BTW, "Cartoon Network" across the world is attracting a lot of fans to the Kats. They > might want to try a better ac-figure release overseas and use the market as a guinea-pig > for a similar thing here. Man, I get wishful around Christmas, don't I?) Am I the only one annoyed at the fact that people in Europe can watch the Cartoon Network and I can't? Arrggh! And my stupid cable company just added another stupid sports channel too :( Ed Rudnicki erudnick@pica.army.mil Oculis numquam claudentibus From mbotwin@ny.psca.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: Mitch Botwin Date: Tue, 5 Dec 95 15:54:04 -0500 Subject: Re: Konway's fan letter, and Hemingway It is always good to find writing that is good. It is good to find = writing that does not contain a lot of bull. It may contain a lot = of cows. I do not know the way to tell if writing contains cows. = Fans would ask if there were Kats in the fields. The writing is = good. The Kats are good. DarkKat is bad. The bulls are not bad. = The writing of DarkKat is not as good as writing bull. The Kats = will write, but Callie writes best. I'm sorry, I know I shouldn't have done this but the muse fell on = me and had me in a headlock. Mitch Begin forwarded message: From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 11:52:11 -0500 To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Konway's fan letter, and Hemingway Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Are you implying, sir, that I write like Hemingway?? I think my writing is good. It is the kind of writing that is = good. It is a good kind of writing. It is the kind of writing that men with = large cojones sit around a fire and say, "It is good writing," as the = sun sets over the bulls in the fields, bulls whose writing is not as good, = but the men write well. The writing is good. The bulls do not write = well, as men do. The bulls mate with cows, as that is what drives a bull, but = the men who sit around the fire and say that the writing is good are = driven by other things..... So there! ;) Anyway, is the text of the fan letter, and the response which I = got, not=20 already on the web site? Not being a web cruiser, I thought that = it was. If, however, it does not exist there, I'll dig it up and see about = reposting it. Actually, if anyone has saved that text, could someone please send = it along? It would save me the chore of retyping it with my poor old, = arthritic fingers. They are good fingers, but they are arthritic. It is a good kind = of arthritis, though. The kind of arthritis that is good. My knuckles are huge = with the=20 goodness of it. It is the kind of arthritis that men with large = knuckles sit... From kaychang@eden.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 16:22:37 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) >BTW I just visit rat.org and I didn't saw Kay Chang "Razor Nemesis" in the >story directory, Kay ! are the story typing into the computer is done yet ? SORRY!!!! I've got a big three-week project due TOMORROW!!!!! I said it would take a while. Oh, yeah, and everybody, IT'S TERRA!! T-E-R-R-A!!!! GOT IT????!!!!???? From flee@teleport.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: Felix Lee Date: Tue, 05 Dec 1995 17:46:58 -0800 Subject: Re: Can the TurboKat swim ? Edo Andromedo: > I know that this is silly question, but can the TurboKat swim ? you know ! > submersible, underwater, water proof, and all that underwatery stuff. I whichever makes for a better story. do you want the Kats stopped cold by the clever villain diving into the ocean, or do you want the Kats trying out their newly-modified submersible TurboKat, so you can explore the differences between aerodynamics and hydrodynamics? (and don't forget option c) none of the above.) -- From flee@teleport.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: Felix Lee Date: Tue, 05 Dec 1995 17:42:55 -0800 Subject: Re: Regarding letters to HB, etc. Dr. Konway: > Consider the difference between the following: > "I am very disappointed to see Swat Kats cancelled. It was one of a very few > cartoons that is enjoyable enough to watch every week, and I know that there > is a very large and loyal fan following..." > vs. > "ARE YOU PEOPLE OUT OF YOUR MINDS????" > Which one, gentle fans, is going to be read through to the end? the second, of course. the first one drawls on and on, and while it may be a source of quotable, intelligent opinions, the gist of it is apparent in the first sentence, and the rest of it can be ignored. since the second is just one sentence, then of course it'll be read through to the end. :) -- From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 20:43:17 -0800 Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) >>OTOH, TedCo likes money. RoJ (which to respond to a posting of yours >elsewhere, is none too impressive because it was actually cobbled >together from four TV series eps) and LBT2 showed that there's tons >of money to be made in D2Vs. LBT3 comes out in a few weeks, and I >think in the spring the third Aladdin will blow people away in terms >of quality. At that point TedCo/H-B would have to look seriously at >what they could put out into this market. Heh, Fondacom would _have_ to look at releasing a Kats OAV if something like LBT3 can make money...one was more than enough. Tad Stones is steering the third Aladdin effort, which is why I think we're going to be seeing a quality product there (despite some, er.."friction" with Dean Valentine) In fact, the only studios dragging their feet in the OAV department now are Turner and Warners. Mook "SwatKats" would be Anime-level OAV if handled right, and we're just now _starting_ to see how popular stuff like that _really_ is in North America. >Am I the only one annoyed at the fact that people in Europe can >watch the Cartoon Network and I can't? Arrggh! And my stupid cable >company just added another stupid sports channel too :( Canada can't get the Kats because the Cartoon Network is *not allowed* in the country. S'right...we can buy illegal DSS dishes and get it from the 'States satellites, but the "Canadian Version" coming out shortly is prohibited from carrying the signal. I find it ironic that former Iron Curtain countries "allow" the signal, yet Canada's government does not. Anyone got a TurboKat they can lend me - with Shrikes and fuel for Ottawa? _____________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 11:37:53 +0700 Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) >>BTW I just visit rat.org and I didn't saw Kay Chang "Razor Nemesis" in the >>story directory, Kay ! are the story typing into the computer is done yet ? > >SORRY!!!! I've got a big three-week project due TOMORROW!!!!! I said it >would take a while. Ok, I guess everybody here could wait a little while for the story. :-) >Oh, yeah, and everybody, IT'S TERRA!! T-E-R-R-A!!!! GOT IT????!!!!???? OKAY ! I get it ! Sorry ! but I confuse, who is writing the story ? and are Kay and Terra is the same person ? From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 20:31:32 -0800 Subject: Re: Konway's fan letter, and Hemingway >Are you implying, sir, that I write like Hemingway?? > >I think my writing is good. It is the kind of writing that is good. It is >a good kind of writing. It is the kind of writing that men with large >cojones sit around a fire and say, "It is good writing," ROTFLMAO! Thank you for that...you made my week! >Anyway, is the text of the fan letter, and the response which I got, not >already on the web site? Not being a web cruiser, I thought that it was. >If, however, it does not exist there, I'll dig it up and see about reposting Now, I do have this archived, but the question is...where? I think the site has it under seperate cover, but I'll have to check. _____________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 11:37:48 +0700 Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor >>>IMO, it's a play on words with either the Pastmaster's tower resembling a >>>monolith, or the towers inside the walls of Megalith city. Just a >>>guess, tho.. >> >>Maybe this is the reason they call it Megalith city, because monolith is an >>_ancient thing_ and the city is in an _ancient time_, they maybe decided to >>add "lith" to the name, the "Mega" probaly comes from MegaKat city. This was my opinion, so I could be wrong. >Sheesh! > >A Monolith is a single large stone. A Megalith is a group. The thing >at Stonehenge is a megalith. Megalith City _is_ a megalith; it just >also happens to be a clever play on words on MegaKat as well. Oh boy ! now I'm confuse, this play on word thing seems to get my head riddled. >Ed From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 11:37:55 +0700 Subject: Re: Can the TurboKat swim ? >Edo Andromedo: >> I know that this is silly question, but can the TurboKat swim ? you know ! >> submersible, underwater, water proof, and all that underwatery stuff. I > >whichever makes for a better story. do you want the Kats stopped cold >by the clever villain diving into the ocean, If the villain goes into the ocean when the story is near the end, I guess it quite posssible the Kats could let the villain go. >or do you want the Kats trying out their newly-modified submersible >TurboKat, so you can >explore the differences between aerodynamics and hydrodynamics? Cool ! of course the SwatKats have to do some explaining before they dive into the ocean, so that fans don't think that the SwatKats are desparate enough to dive without doing something special to the TurboKat. :-) >(and don't forget option c) none of the above.) >-- Ok, let's do option c), let's say that the SwatKats has an ally that could dive into the ocean, they could ask the ally to take them to dive into the ocean. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 11:37:46 +0700 Subject: Re: Can the TurboKat swim ? >>>Scientificly, no. But hey, this is a cartoon, the same one that has gadgets >>>of every concievable nature that all fit into one jet. >> >>Glad to know that I wasn't the only one that noticed that it's impossible >>to fit all the gadgets into the TurboKats :-), I know it's scientificly >>cann't be done, but are the SwatKats designed the TurboKat so that it can >>swim ? (Stuff about Blackout is deleted) >When you're writing science-fiction-fantasy like the Kats in some episodes, >the physics of a particular situation work simply because you want them to. Every sci-fi writers did this all the time, they make it work because they want it to work, physics is always take the back seat on every sci-fi story. >>>Of course is not without some irony that I'm writing a high-sea adventure >>>story and of course had to name the main boat "TurboKat". >> >>Is the TurboKat going to be a boat or a sub ? will the adventure takes >>above the water or below the water ? > >"Yes" Yes ? does this mean that the SwatKats will have a underwater adventure and sea adventure on this fanfic story ? and chance ! how do you know that this is going to happen ? are you the co-author on this story ? or do you know the author very well ? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 11:37:43 +0700 Subject: Re: Regarding letters to HB, etc. (Conway stuff deleted) >Heh. You have no idea...how about a repost of your fan-letter, Doctor C? When you say that I have no idea, do you mean I'm right about this :-) ? or do I foul up big time on this :-( ? >>>I really do look like Dr. Konway, but older and fatter. Ask Dana. >> >>Hi Conway ! are you look like _Dr.Konway_ when you was young ? > >Warning..shameless Web Site plug follows... > >You can see the actual character model sheet from H-B of "Doc Konway" on >the rat.org >site by downloading "DocKat.gif" (I think). Thanks ! >On letter to H-B and Toonnet in general - Doc Konway pretty much covered >the important >stuff completely - but also be aware that shorter letters tend to get read >more often than their >longer brethren, and write what you feel in your own voice as opposed to >trying to copy someone >else. Many of the outstanding letters I've read concerning how much >viewers like a show (from >all ages) come from folks who *don't* write like Hemingway. Yes I agree with you, if you want to write a fan letter, you should write what is in your heart, not writing what is in somebody mind , of course it wouldn't hurt to take a peek at somebody fan letter so that you will get the idea on how to write a fan letter, I don't have an idea on how to write a fan letter, so I better take a peek a somebody fan letter. ;-) From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 21:44:10 -0800 Subject: Re: Can the TurboKat swim ? >>>>Is the TurboKat going to be a boat or a sub ? will the adventure takes >>>above the water or below the water ? >> >>"Yes" > >Yes ? does this mean that the SwatKats will have a underwater adventure and >sea adventure on this fanfic story ? and chance ! how do you know that this >is going to happen ? are you the co-author on this story ? or do you know >the author very well ? No, it means I was humour-impaired at the time - probably too much "dark and stormy night" literary renditions a la Hemingway. Co-authoring fanfic is a tough ride, and I've really only seen one or two worthy efforts where the writers obviously "clicked". Who knows? With all the katfans now turning their pens to fanfic efforts, maybe that'll all change. (Just don't do "The Old Kat and the Sea", or "For Whom the Megalith Tolls") ...i think i get more obscure with age. _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 21:51:50 -0800 Subject: Re: Regarding letters to HB, etc. I don't have an idea on how to write >a fan letter, so I better take a peek a somebody fan letter. ;-) Eyaaah...just don't look at any of mine - I think I covered both halves of Doc Konway's equation and then some. I did have the good sense to leave out the artwork of Ted Turner in a compromising position with a barnyard animal though. (..'sides, Jane wanted the photo back) Oh, BTW - I fouled up with the name of the restaurant that is going to have the Kats "Happy Meal" kinda toy giveaway. It's actually "Carl's Jr.", and exists in the midwestern States as well as the West Coast. It does not however exist in Canada, so I'm still screwed. A friend has made a "Quicktime" kats movie file for playback on Macintosh. Does anyone know if there is an equivalent Windows utility that will play the thing back? Replies to me please and not the list (chance@unix.infoserve.net). _____________________________________________________________ From fayxx001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: Timothy D Fay Date: Wed, 6 Dec 95 00:27:24 -0600 Subject: Re: Regarding letters to HB, etc. >From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) >Oh, BTW - I fouled up with the name of the restaurant that is going to >have the Kats "Happy Meal" kinda toy giveaway. It's actually "Carl's >Jr.", and exists in the midwestern States as well as the West Coast. >It does not however exist in Canada, so I'm still screwed. I've never seen a Carl's Jr. west of the Rockies; there are certainly none in the upper Midwest U.S. (I'm in Minnesota). At least, none that I've ever seen. If there's anyone out there on the Left Coast that could pick up these toys for me, I'd gladly cover the cost of the meal. :) >A friend has made a "Quicktime" kats movie file for playback on Macintosh. >Does anyone know if there is an equivalent Windows utility that will play >the thing back? You need QuickTime for Windows. It's available at all the usual sites (and usually comes pre-installed with Windows 95). -Tim From flee@teleport.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: Felix Lee Date: Wed, 06 Dec 1995 05:54:28 -0800 Subject: Re: Can the TurboKat swim ? > Ok, let's do option c), let's say that the SwatKats has an ally that could > dive into the ocean, they could ask the ally to take them to dive into the > ocean. ok. someone they've met before, or someone they're meeting now? met-before means you can dive.. urrr.. start right into undersea action with just some throwaway mention of "they've met before". meeting-now means you have all sorts of character-building possibilities, as the kats decide whether to entrust themselves to this stranger and his rickety-yet-high-tech submersible. or something like that. and is this new kat someone who a) lives in a submersible a la Captain Nemo, b) lives in a shipyard with a submersible in his secret lair, c) lives in an undersea city, d) none of the above? -- From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 07:46:11 -0800 Subject: BOUNCE kats from Razor (I ain't sayin' a word!) >Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 00:50:18 -0800 >To: kats@bort.mv.net >From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) >Subject: More Kat stuff > >Tim Fay sez: >>I've never seen a Carl's Jr. west of the Rockies... > >Eh? Surely you jest! We've got 'em all over the place in Earthquake >Central, where I am. It's _White Castle_ that I've never seen over here. > > >Andy sez: >>There's a beautiful shot of Razor running against a typical Anime "blurred >>>colored-streak" background in "Bright and Shiny Future" (I think?) that >>could've easily been edited out entirely. > >Are you referring to the scene in "The Deadly Pyramid" where Razor attacks >the two mummies' eye shields when he and T-Bone are both inside the >pyramid? That's a brilliantly animated scene I can recall offhand, *and* >vividly. Very impressive, whether viewed at regular speed *or* in >slow-motion (yes, I've viewed the episode both ways). > > >Edo Andromedo sez: >>What is the "speed of heat" shields ? > >As best as I can recall, these are shields that Razor had developed for use >in the Turbokat for outer space travel ("When Strikes Mutilor" is where he >first installs them, I believe; they get their first test under fire). > >I'm starting to smell continuity here... > >Kats done right or not at all if continued: Let me throw something else in >here... the "SWAT Kats IQ" episode was the episode originally set to lead >the second season (according to Andy), but it wasn't aired until *after* >the other second-season episodes had aired. In my opinion, it wasn't among >the caliber of the other episodes in terms of writing (most of the >animation was reused footage, so it doesn't count). Would more of these >types of episodes be better than no new Kats eps at all? For me, it's a >toss-up, but I'd like to hear what the rest of the list thinks. > >-- >================ Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================ > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 23:42:52 +0700 Subject: Re: Can the TurboKat swim ? >>>"Yes" >> >>Yes ? does this mean that the SwatKats will have a underwater adventure and >>sea adventure on this fanfic story ? and chance ! how do you know that this >>is going to happen ? are you the co-author on this story ? or do you know >>the author very well ? > >No, it means I was humour-impaired at the time - probably too much "dark and >stormy night" literary renditions a la Hemingway. Oh ? ok ! :-) >Co-authoring fanfic is a tough ride, and >I've really only seen one or two worthy efforts where the writers >obviously "clicked". Who >knows? With all the katfans now turning their pens to fanfic efforts, >maybe that'll all change. Yes, maybe all that will change. >(Just don't do "The Old Kat and the Sea", or "For Whom the Megalith Tolls") Ok, although that just give me an idea. :-) >...i think i get more obscure with age. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 23:43:03 +0700 Subject: Re: Can the TurboKat swim ? >> Ok, let's do option c), let's say that the SwatKats has an ally that could >> dive into the ocean, they could ask the ally to take them to dive into the >> ocean. > >ok. someone they've met before, or someone they're meeting now? >met-before means you can dive.. urrr.. start right into undersea >action with just some throwaway mention of "they've met before". Someone that they have met before (In my mind of course :-), they never truly met in the series), I already done that character building stuff in the ally background, and now I only have to write a story about it (One _problem_, I do lously in writing a story :-), so I'm going to need help from someone here on this list). >and is this new kat someone who a) lives in a submersible a la Captain >Nemo, b) lives in a shipyard with a submersible in his secret lair, c) >lives in an undersea city, d) none of the above? Well, it's sorta like b), but it's truly the d), this Kat lives in MegaKat city (And also has some secret identity like the SwatKats), but this Kat is never truly a true living Kat (aka a robotic alien Kat), this Kat has some high-tech toys that make even Jake envy. Or the SwatKats could just use the "sub-orbital" mode and directly dive into the ocean (A space vehicle could be used on water too), although I prefer the mysterious character involvement in my story. BTW can the SwatKats use the TurboKat "sub -orbital" mode to do some underwatering manuver ? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 23:42:48 +0700 Subject: Re: How many vehicle does the SwatKats has ? >Edo wrote: > >>Are the TurboMole is a modified TurboKat ? > >Nein. It's a vehicle in its own right - similar to the standard sci-fi >"digging machine" >but way cooler. Does it's sorta look like a tank with a drill in front of it ? >>The "ejector seat" got some rockets on it sides, so I better put it in my >>SwatKats vehicle list. > >The ejector-seat flies for 20 miles under its own power, so it could be >considered a >vehicle. Ok, it's a vehicle, BTW how do you know that it could flies for 20 miles ? >The "ejector seat parachute" you mention from "Pastmaster Always Rings Twice" >is actually the same ejector seat I misplaced the quote thing, it supposed to be _the "ejector seat" parachute_, not _the "ejector seat parachute"_. >, just that when the fuel is exhausted, it parachute lands to earth. I think the parachute was shaped like glider so that it would have a more controlable landing. >>Yes it's the ThunderTruck, I saw the Kat guys converting it into the >>ThunderTruck in "When Strikes Mutilor", and Razor said "Scratch one >>ThunderTruck !" when it blows up. > >Yeah, "Thundertruck" is what results when the good ol' Tow Truck morphs. >In "When Strikes >Mutilor", the episode was originally written without the lengthy >transformation sequence because >the writer felt it broke up the pacing too much. The Story Editor put it >in anyways, and you >can see the result. I liked the scene when the ThunderTruck fire it's cannon at the alien ship. >Razor and T-Bone have nothing but "bad vehicle days" when using the >"Cyclotron"; I don't think it's ever survived an episode intact - damn >thing is a jinx! The Cyclotron seems to get wasted in almost every episode, are this one of SwatKats trademark ? >My favourite Cyclotron scenes are the Evel Kneivel style "jump" in "Deadly >Pyramid" - the >scene with the two Kat guys riding it on the open road from the same ep, >and those shots >with Razor firing missiles from it in "Razor's Edge" and I think "Enter >the MadKat". My favourite Cyclotron is when it got hit by the pyramid spear trap and the thruster jump on the pyramid lava trap, and when in the episode "A bright and shiny future" T-Bone slide through danger with the Cyclotron. This two episode has the Cyclotron destroyed as well. From fayxx001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: Timothy D Fay Date: Wed, 6 Dec 95 11:30:51 -0600 Subject: Re: BOUNCE kats from Razor (I ain't sayin' a word!) >>From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) >> >>Tim Fay sez: >>>I've never seen a Carl's Jr. west of the Rockies... >> >>Eh? Surely you jest! We've got 'em all over the place in Earthquake >>Central, where I am. It's _White Castle_ that I've never seen over here. OOPS! I meant EAST of the Rockies--sorry! Yeah, Crazyfornia is just crawling with Carls' (of course that's because Carl Carcher [sp?] hails from the Left Coast). In fact, it's kinda hard to find a McDonald's or Burger King in Southern Californa; it's either Carl's Jr. or Jack in the Box (and if you think Mickey D's food is bad, just try a Jack's burger!). But I've never seen a Carl's outside of the Golden State. Are there any beyond your borders? (P.S. For those who've never been there: Carl's Jr. is sort of like Wendy's, only the burgers aren't quite as greasy.) -Tim From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:13 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 00:36:58 +0700 Subject: Re: BOUNCE kats from Razor (I ain't sayin' a word!) >>Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 00:50:18 -0800 >>To: kats@bort.mv.net >>From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) >>Subject: More Kat stuff >> >>Edo Andromedo sez: >>>What is the "speed of heat" shields ? >> >>As best as I can recall, these are shields that Razor had developed for use >>in the Turbokat for outer space travel ("When Strikes Mutilor" is where he >>first installs them, I believe; they get their first test under fire). Did they use the "speed of heat" while they are chasing the alien ship (The big one, not the fighter craft) ? or do they use it while they chasing Mutilor ? how is the speed of heat is use ? BTW are the speed of heat is a normal shield or an invisible energy shield ? >>I'm starting to smell continuity here... >> >>Kats done right or not at all if continued: Let me throw something else in >>here... the "SWAT Kats IQ" episode was the episode originally set to lead >>the second season (according to Andy), but it wasn't aired until *after* >>the other second-season episodes had aired. In my opinion, it wasn't among >>the caliber of the other episodes in terms of writing (most of the >>animation was reused footage, so it doesn't count). Would more of these >>types of episodes be better than no new Kats eps at all? I think it maybe better if that kind of episode wouldn't aired at all if those were the new series episode, but if it was the last of the SwatKats series (if after those series, the SwatKats wouldn't have new series again for good), I think I will let them air, even if it is bad, after all those were the SwatKats last series. >>For me, it's a toss-up, but I'd like to hear what the rest of the list thinks. >> >>-- >>================ Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================ From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 17:12:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Can the TurboKat swim ? About you Felina getting a ride question, The SWAT Kats asked her, "Would you like to take a ride in our new jet?" and she replies with "Love to!" A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 17:00:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: How many vehicle does the SwatKats has ? That hang glider thing is a delta-pack, for any of you who saw "Unlikely Alloys" the delta-pack also appears in "Metal Urgency" and a bunch of others. A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From kaychang@eden.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 16:17:31 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) >OKAY ! I get it ! Sorry ! but I confuse, who is writing the story ? and are >Kay and Terra is the same person ? ME, Terra. Kay is Mom's name. I hafta use her address, and you don't know HOW frustrating it can get. I might get my own address, though. It will say "Terra" and not "Kay." P.S. Razor's Nemesis was actually written by my friend Courtney. I'm transfering it. It'll take a while, so don't hold your breath. 'kay bye. Terra From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 18:38:23 -0800 Subject: Re: BOUNCE kats from Razor (I ain't sayin' a word!) >>>Kats done right or not at all if continued: Let me throw something else in >>>here... the "SWAT Kats IQ" episode was the episode originally set to lead >>>the second season (according to Andy), but it wasn't aired until *after* >>>the other second-season episodes had aired. In my opinion, it wasn't among >>>the caliber of the other episodes in terms of writing (most of the >>>animation was reused footage, so it doesn't count). Would more of these >>>types of episodes be better than no new Kats eps at all? Yeah, what happened with the "Katseye News Special Report"/ SKIQ thing was than an outside producer (from an advertising outfit, if I recall) was brought in to make a kind of "introduction" to the second season Katseps for those who hadn't seen the original. Some of it was really fun (SKIQ was a scream!), but the vast majority of it had some really silly problems, and some of the clips were _so_ far out of context that they pissed off the staffers who wrote the original eps. The scene at the end of "Metal Urgency" was orchestrated by Falk to be very powerful, with only those three characters present. In the "Katseye" thing, it looked like he had an audience complete with camera crew viewing a moment that only really "worked" from a story/character standpoint as it was written in the first place. Also, check out the scenes of "Thundertruck" cribbed from "When Strikes Mutilor" that appear in this thing; they've supposedly all been shot by "an amateur video camera", yet are composed of scenes that no casual bystander with a Hi-8 could ever catch. This _was_ supposed to air as the first ep in the second season, but was shelved and replaced by "Mutation City". Even Christian Tremblay could only say "well, I'm not proud of it" when asked about "Katseye". >I think it maybe better if that kind of episode wouldn't aired at all if >those were the new series episode, but if it was the last of the SwatKats >series (if after those series, the SwatKats wouldn't have new series again >for good), I think I will let them air, even if it is bad, after all those >were the SwatKats last series. Yeah, but you wouldn't say that if you saw the reaction here and on the newsgroups. Fans were ecstatic just to get *anything* more in terms of "SwatKats" - even something as contrived and mediocre as "Katseye" was. Someone remarked earlier something to the effect that if they did revive the series with lower-quality animation, that they could always get better. Makes sense actually; you have to be moving in order to go faster. _____________________________________________________________ From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 22:36:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: How many vehicle does the SwatKats has ? Sorry folks, this got bounced the first time! >The Cyclotron, the SwatKats land vehicle, Two kats can fit into this >The ThunderTruck the SwatKats land vehicle, Two kats can fit into this vehicle. >The TurboKat the SwatKats main vehicle, Two kats can fit into this vehicle. >The SandKat the SwatKats sand vehicle, the Kat capacity maybe as same as >The Jetski the SwatKats water vehicle, can only fit one Kat. > Also: The "TurboMole" used in "Caverns of Horror". The "ATV/convert-a-submarine" used in "Katastrophe". The "jet-buggy" used in "Bride of the Pastmaster". The "jet-packs" also used in "Caverns of Horror". The "Ejektor seats" would probably be considered a vehicle since they can be controlled in flight. I remember Razor using some type of hang-glider that deployed like a parachute in one of the eps. Oh, yeah, what about the Tow-truck that converts into some kinda off-road buggy? Is that the same thing as the ThunderTruck? --------------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com NOTE: !!Please update your address book for the new changes!! --------------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 22:35:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: How many vehicle does the SwatKats has ? >Ok, it's a vehicle, BTW how do you know that it could flies for 20 miles ? I think it said something about the range on one of those "Secret Files of the SWAT Kats" bumpers. >>The "ejector seat parachute" you mention from "Pastmaster Always Rings Twice" >>is actually the same ejector seat >I think the parachute was shaped like glider so that it would have a more >controlable landing. I was actually refering to the hang-glider that Razor used at the end of "SWAT Kats Unplugged". Razor glides down to capture Hard Drive after he crashes his jet. >>>Yes it's the ThunderTruck, I saw the Kat guys converting it into the >>>ThunderTruck in "When Strikes Mutilor", and Razor said "Scratch one >>>ThunderTruck !" when it blows up. >>Yeah, "Thundertruck" is what results when the good ol' Tow Truck morphs. >I liked the scene when the ThunderTruck fire it's cannon at the alien ship. The truck that transforms in "Bright & Shiny Future" doesn't quite look the same as the Thundertruck from "When Strikes Mutilor". It looked more like a rocket powered truck than the Thundertruck. >My favourite Cyclotron is when it got hit by the pyramid spear trap and the >thruster jump on the pyramid lava trap, and when in the episode "A bright >and shiny future" T-Bone slide through danger with the Cyclotron. Just wonderin... why is the Cyclotron called a "missile" in the "Secret Files" screen? I know it's launched from the TurboKat, but what gives? --------------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com NOTE: !!Please update your address book for the new changes!! --------------------------------------------------------------- From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 12:51:08 +0700 Subject: Re: Can the TurboKat swim ? >About you Felina getting a ride question, The SWAT Kats asked her, "Would >you like to take a ride in our new jet?" and she replies with "Love to!" I know that she did get an offer to take a ride in the TurboKat, and I know that she did take the offer, but where did she sit in the TurboKat (Did she sit in the cockpit ? or did she sit inside the TurboKat (Not the cockpit part) ?) ? I didn't hear her voices when the TurboKat is flying near the returned water. Yes, I hear T-Bone offering "Would you like to take a ride in our new jet Liuetenant ?" too, but when I didn't hear her or see her at the TurboKat, oh boy ! now I'm starting to get confuse on this. From flee@teleport.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: Felix Lee Date: Wed, 06 Dec 1995 22:16:28 -0800 Subject: Re: Can the TurboKat swim ? Edo: > Well, it's sorta like b), but it's truly the d), this Kat lives in MegaKat > city (And also has some secret identity like the SwatKats), but this Kat is > never truly a true living Kat (aka a robotic alien Kat), this Kat has some > high-tech toys that make even Jake envy. ok. any idea why this mysterious stranger hasn't been a visible presence in the city? or has he been visible, but just happened not to appear in the tv series? who else knows about him? does Callie have yet another secret communicator with this guy? (imagine what the Deputy Mayor of the Tick's The City would have to lug around in his handbag. though I hear someone markets a PDA specifically for managing your secret superhero contacts.) > Or the SwatKats could just use the "sub-orbital" mode and directly dive > into the ocean (A space vehicle could be used on water too), although I > prefer the mysterious character involvement in my story. so go with it. forget suborbital mode. off-the-cuff rationale: structural integrity in deep-sea pressure is a different engineering problem than integrity in high-altitude vacuum. -- From razor@netcom.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 04:47:39 -0800 Subject: Kat stuff, III At 6:38 PM 12/6/95, chance wrote: >SKIQ was a scream! Ehh, I was rather lukewarm to the quiz itself, but I *did* like Tiger Stripe's narration of the different weapons that the Kats used. (Then again, I'm a rather big Rob Paulsen fan, as some of you know, so... ;-) >Check out the scenes of "Thundertruck" cribbed from "When Strikes Mutilor" that >appear in this thing; they've supposedly all been shot by "an amateur video >camera", yet are composed of scenes that no casual bystander with a Hi-8 could >ever catch. No kidding! I'd say the videographer would have had to have been damn *brave* to get such closeup footage. Of course, there's always the possibility that the SWAT Kats could have sent in the footage themselves, perhaps under their aliases... or simply by saying that the footage was 'shot by an amateur photographer' (yeah, I know I'm grasping at straws here). >Fans were ecstatic just to get *anything* more in terms of >"SwatKats" - even something as contrived and mediocre as "Katseye" was. I'll admit that while I wasn't too thrilled with the episode itself, I *did* like it enough to keep it on tape. Good thing, too, apparently -- the episode has never aired on the Cartoon Network since TBS pulled the series. One comment about the final scene in the episode: Callie Briggs was in the final original scene (from "Metal Urgency") but was shown as watching the news flash from home in SKIQ. That alone forced the editing of what I thought helped make the original scene as powerful as it was, namely the dialogue between Callie and Commander Feral after he neutralizes the Metallikats: Callie: Commander, I'm surprised! You could have... Commander: Don't say it! I just didn't want to owe those two anything... (I'm writing this from memory, so the dialogue may not be fully correct.) BTW, here's the WWW page which has a picture of Frank Welker on it: http://www.engr.wisc.edu/~steinfel/welker.html. And yes, I sent the addition of Doctor Viper's voice to the email address listed. -- ================ Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 21:01:54 +0700 Subject: Re: Can the TurboKat swim ? Felix: >Edo: >> Well, it's sorta like b), but it's truly the d), this Kat lives in MegaKat >> city (And also has some secret identity like the SwatKats), but this Kat is >> never truly a true living Kat (aka a robotic alien Kat), this Kat has some >> high-tech toys that make even Jake envy. > >ok. any idea why this mysterious stranger hasn't been a visible >presence in the city? or has he been visible, but just happened not >to appear in the tv series? This Kat hasn't been visible in the TV series (this Kat only a character that I created, and will be in my fanfic story, I will start writing it as soon as I find someone to co-authored with), I covered his first meeting with the SwatKats in my fanfic stories. >who else knows about him? Callie, Jake, and Chance. >does Callie have yet another secret >communicator with this guy? No, this Kat snooping the SwatKats communicator channel, this Kat can hear everything Callie and the SwatKats say. >> Or the SwatKats could just use the "sub-orbital" mode and directly dive >> into the ocean (A space vehicle could be used on water too), although I >> prefer the mysterious character involvement in my story. > >so go with it. forget suborbital mode. off-the-cuff rationale: >structural integrity in deep-sea pressure is a different engineering >problem than integrity in high-altitude vacuum. >-- Yes, you're right, but maybe the Kat aliens from "When Strikes Mutilor" may have strengthen the TurboKat structural integrity to stand great pressure. BTW, a deep space probe that build to hold the pressure on the Jupiter atmosphere, maybe can also be used in deep sea operation. -Still looking for someone to co-authored a Kat story- From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 21:01:50 +0700 Subject: Re: How many vehicle does the SwatKats has ? >>Ok, it's a vehicle, BTW how do you know that it could flies for 20 miles ? > >I think it said something about the range on one of those "Secret Files of >the SWAT Kats" bumpers. The Cartoon Network here hasn't show me any secret files yet. :-( >>>The "ejector seat parachute" you mention from "Pastmaster Always Rings Twice" >>>is actually the same ejector seat >>I think the parachute was shaped like glider so that it would have a more >>controlable landing. > >I was actually refering to the hang-glider that Razor used at the end of >"SWAT Kats Unplugged". Razor glides down to capture Hard Drive after he >crashes his jet. Does the hang glider expanded when Razor use it ? (Sorry ! but I haven't see this episode before) >>>>Yes it's the ThunderTruck, I saw the Kat guys converting it into the >>>>ThunderTruck in "When Strikes Mutilor", and Razor said "Scratch one >>>>ThunderTruck !" when it blows up. >>>Yeah, "Thundertruck" is what results when the good ol' Tow Truck morphs. >>I liked the scene when the ThunderTruck fire it's cannon at the alien ship. > >The truck that transforms in "Bright & Shiny Future" doesn't quite look the >same as the Thundertruck from "When Strikes Mutilor". It looked more like a >rocket powered truck than the Thundertruck. It is the same truck, only they haven't converted it into the ThunderTruck yet. >>My favourite Cyclotron scene is when it got hit by the pyramid spear trap and >>the thruster jump on the pyramid lava trap, and when in the episode "A bright >>and shiny future" T-Bone slide through danger with the Cyclotron. > >Just wonderin... why is the Cyclotron called a "missile" in the "Secret >Files" screen? I know it's launched from the TurboKat, but what gives? Maybe because the Cyclotron look like a missile when it was launced from the TurboKat. From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 07:37:29 -0800 Subject: Matt Weber's message: Forwarded. >To: kats@bort.mv.net >From: MATT WEBER >Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor > >Sorry folks, this message got bounced the first time! > >More extraneous >'s removed... > >>>Yep. Her regular Kamera-Kat is named "Rob", I think. >>In "Caverns of Horror" Annie called him "Johnny". "Rob" may be the name >>of the Kats Eye News chopper pilot. I seem to remember her talking to him, >>but I can't remember the ep. Annie asked him to get closer to the action >>and he said something like, "..after what did to those Enforcer >>choppers?! No way!" I'll have to go through my tapes. > >Ok, I figured it out... In "The Wrath of Dark Kat", Annie did ask the >chopper pilot to get closer to Dark Kat's ship. His name is in fact: >"Rob". "Johnny" is the name of the camerakat. > >>I wonder what the deal was with the significance of "MegaLITH City" was in >>"Bride of the Pastmaster"? It always seemed rather a strange choice to me. > >IMO, it's a play on words with either the Pastmaster's tower resembling a >monolith, or the towers inside the walls of Megalith city. Just a guess, tho.. > >>>How does she get the SwatKats communicator ? >>It isn't shown anywhere that I can recall, but the Kat guys gave Callie the >>communicator before we see them in any episodes. >> >>Just saw "Mutation City" today, and she looks great on those suit, it's too >>bad that the episode doesn't include more Callie. :-( > >Heh. Funny, I thought they should have included more Callie in "The Wrath of >Dark Kat". More specifically, I think they should have done a complete >episode on the "flashback" the guys had about being kicked out of the >Enforcers & their initial contact with Callie. It could have been a _great_ >opportunity for a character development story. > >>Strangely, "Razor" is played by the same voice-actor that does "Donatello" >>in the Ninja Turtles cartoon - with *that* character giving a communicator >>to April O'Neil in much the same fashion as Razor must have to Callie. >>Barry Gordon must really like being cast as a gadget-whiz with a penchant >>for giving away his toys to lovely ladies! > >:) Yeah, I've heard of actors being type-cast, but a _voice-actor_??! >Does Barry also do the voice of the rabbit/bunny in the Quik chocolate-milk >commercials? > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com >NOTE: !!Please update your address book for the new changes!! >--------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _____________________________________________________________ From kaychang@eden.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 16:16:05 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Can the TurboKat swim ? >I know that she did get an offer to take a ride in the TurboKat, and I know >that she did take the offer, but where did she sit in the TurboKat (Did she >sit in the cockpit ? or did she sit inside the TurboKat (Not the cockpit >part) ? Have you ever seen "The Giant Bacteria"? You see Callie sitting behind Razor when they blast out from Megakat Biochemical. Also, I think in "Destructive Nature", you see Razor put Callie behind his seat or something like that. Those of you who have time to reveiw your tapes please check it out and confirm, 'kay? 'kay bye Terra (Chang) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 09:54:09 +0700 Subject: Re: Can the TurboKat swim ? >>I know that she did get an offer to take a ride in the TurboKat, and I know >>that she did take the offer, but where did she sit in the TurboKat (Did she >>sit in the cockpit ? or did she sit inside the TurboKat (Not the cockpit >>part) ? > >Have you ever seen "The Giant Bacteria"? Nope, I'm only saw some of the SwatKats episodes. >You see Callie sitting behind Razor >when they blast out from Megakat Biochemical. Also, I think in "Destructive >Nature", you see Razor put Callie behind his seat or something like that. Does Callie sit behind Razor seat ? or behind Razor ? (Anybody can confirmed this ?) >Those of you who have time to review your tapes please check it out and >confirm, 'kay? Maybe I should recorded all the episode. >'kay bye >Terra (Chang) Bye Terra ! BTW did I say your name right this time ? :-) From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 20:12:24 -0800 Subject: Re: How many vehicle does the SwatKats has ? >>>Ok, it's a vehicle, BTW how do you know that it could flies for 20 miles ? >> >>I think it said something about the range on one of those "Secret Files of >>the SWAT Kats" bumpers. > >The Cartoon Network here hasn't show me any secret files yet. :-( Yeah. Unfortunately, the Cartoon Network seems to have been deleting the "Secret Files" interstitials and replacing them with those obnoxious "We Are Cartoons" things. What I'd really like to do is have someone with access to a frame grabber and a tape library cull all of the "Secret Files" things and post them up to the rat.org site. I want either the Razor or T-Bone one for my Windows Wallpaper! I might do it myself, I've asked Santa for one of the I/O style video processing boards on my Christmas list. >>Just wonderin... why is the Cyclotron called a "missile" in the "Secret >>Files" screen? I know it's launched from the TurboKat, but what gives? >Maybe because the Cyclotron look like a missile when it was launced from >the TurboKat. It's only labelled "missile" in the "Secret Files" thing. The Hanna-Barbera literature directed at toy manufacturers makes it quite clear that Cyclotron is a vehicle. Probably the same morons who made Razor's nose white on the Home Video boxes also figured a missile has wheels. I'd hate to be a military pilot stationed in Atlanta. Oh yeah, a note on Ted Turner. He really doesn't have a sense of humour and may in fact be a stark raving loony. Anyone catch "Toby Danger" on "Freakazoid"? Well, one of the storyboard artists at Warners tells me that Ted Turner was apoplectic at seeing the thing, and Jane Fonda herself called up "Toby"'s writer and berated him for over half an hour for causing her hubby so much distress. Special. This is the guy we have to beg to renew the Kats? _____________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 20:49:37 +0700 Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) >Heh. Someone on the phone brought up an interesting question. If Turner >did decide >that finishing the last three episodes was a good idea, but the trade-off >would be obviously >cheap animation, would we rather leave things as they are? That's a tough >question. That's according the result, is it going to be good or not ? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 20:49:43 +0700 Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor >>, BTW the only non Callie episode (At least for the moment, I'm only >>watch 9 SwatKats epsiode, so that mean I lack the information) is >>"Razor edge", great episode, although I much >>prefer the episode with Callie on it. :-) > >"Razor's Edge" is a fine episode without any alterations, and is one of >the reasons >I like Razor as much as I do. Imagine my surprise to hear that the >freelance writer >responsible, Mark Saraceni, copied the same plot elements verbatim on to >an episode >of "Biker Mice from Mars". It's a fine episode to me too, no alteration is needed, it brings up a classic situation, when the hero have to rethink about doing his job again when somebody is just got hurt because of his action. (I like Razor the first I see him) (Stuff about the SwatKats background is deleted) >>>:) Yeah, I've heard of actors being type-cast, but a _voice-actor_??! >> >>Maybe it's a new trend. :-) > >Happens all the time. Ok, so it's an old thing, I'm lack of knowledge in this thing. :-) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 20:49:46 +0700 Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats cancellation (fwd) >>The SwatKats (In their normal clothes) was walking and suddenly suprised >>when they see themself aren't what they used to look, then someguy (Kat >>like) comes and tell them that they have to cut the quality because of low >>budget that was given, Chance was suprised and said "Who told you to cut >>the budget !" > >Heh. Ok, it's sound silly, but do you like it ? or do you hated it ? >>or they could make an episode that put the Kat guys in a VR world (A simple >>VR world, just wireframe graphics), where they was trap there by Hard >>Drive, and that will surely left out the job for drawing shading. :-) > >Just an aside, but normally the first thing to go during budget trimming >is the shading/inking >of a toon. Less inking = No more bright animation, Less shading = No more realistic animation (Am I right on these two ?), I guess a typical cartoon lover wouldn't mind to see some detail chopped down, as along it's good. (Stuff about the connection between budget and good show is deleted for size sake) >Kats is one of the few animated series where >the general quality actually went *up* in the second season; No argument here. :-) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 20:49:50 +0700 Subject: Re: BOUNCE kats from Razor (I ain't sayin' a word!) Andy Hill wrote: >Edo Andromedo (That's me) wrote: > >>I think it maybe better if that kind of episode wouldn't aired at all if >>those were the new series episode, but if it was the last of the SwatKats >>series (if after those series, the SwatKats wouldn't have new series again >>for good), I think I will let them air, even if it is bad, after all those >>were the SwatKats last series. > >Yeah, but you wouldn't say that if you saw the reaction here and on the >newsgroups. What reaction ? I"m just entered this list a few weeks ago, so I don't the reaction. >Fans >were ecstatic just to get *anything* more in terms of "SwatKats" - even >something as contrived >and mediocre as "Katseye" was. Someone remarked earlier something to the >effect that if >they did revive the series with lower-quality animation, that they could >always get better. Makes >sense actually; you have to be moving in order to go faster. Yes, if the SwatKats does do get revived, and it looks bad (I even ask a question on this mailing list, about what will Kats fan will do if the SwatKats new series is bad), I think they would get a lot of help from their original fans to improve the new series. To start a new series is okay if the quality only degrade a little (They can improve it on later time), but if it look like a storyboard drawing and a half writen story, then it have to wait a little while till it can be use as a good SwatKats episode. From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance Date: Fri, 08 Dec 1995 07:54:56 -0800 Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Edo Andromedo wrote: > > >>, BTW the only non Callie episode (At least for the moment, I'm only > >>watch 9 SwatKats epsiode, so that mean I lack the information) is > >>"Razor edge", great episode, although I much > >>prefer the episode with Callie on it. :-) > > > >"Razor's Edge" is a fine episode without any alterations, and is one of > >the reasons > >I like Razor as much as I do. Imagine my surprise to hear that the > >freelance writer > >responsible, Mark Saraceni, copied the same plot elements verbatim on to > >an episode > >of "Biker Mice from Mars". > > It's a fine episode to me too, no alteration is needed, it brings up a > classic situation, when the hero have to rethink about doing his job again > when somebody is just got hurt because of his action. (I like Razor the > first I see him) > > (Stuff about the SwatKats background is deleted) > > >>>:) Yeah, I've heard of actors being type-cast, but a _voice-actor_??! > >> > >>Maybe it's a new trend. :-) > > > >Happens all the time. > > Ok, so it's an old thing, I'm lack of knowledge in this thing. :-) Frank Welker (who voices "Dr. Viper"), once did an animal noise on some animated project and has been "specializing" in them ever since. Right now, aside from "Viper", he's "Uni" on the old "Dungeons and Dragons" series, "Darwin" on "Seaquest 2032", "Tokka and Razhar" on "TMNT:Secret of the Ooze", and a bazillion other things. Busy dude, and whenever someone needs to give a snake its hiss or a bee its buzz - Frank's the guy they call. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 23:02:08 +0700 Subject: Let's talk about Lt.Steel. Let's talk about Mr.Steel, what do you think about him ? and do you think that he is older than the SwatKats ? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 23:02:14 +0700 Subject: Re: How many vehicle does the SwatKats has ? >>>>Ok, it's a vehicle, BTW how do you know that it could flies for 20 miles ? >>> >>>I think it said something about the range on one of those "Secret Files of >>>the SWAT Kats" bumpers. >> >>The Cartoon Network here hasn't show me any secret files yet. :-( > >Yeah. Unfortunately, the Cartoon Network seems to have been deleting the >"Secret >Files" interstitials and replacing them with those obnoxious "We Are >Cartoons" things. What ? no secret files ! what agony, what misery, what a tragedy.(Ok ! I cann't make a joke, but I can surely try :-) ) >What I'd really like to do is have someone with access to a frame grabber >and a tape >library cull all of the "Secret Files" things and post them up to the >rat.org site. Got the computer, got the video grabber, but no _secrets files_. :-( BTW you could lend your video tapes to your friend that use the Mac, and ask him to grabbed the secret files. (If you have a secret files tape) >I want >either the Razor or T-Bone one for my Windows Wallpaper! I might do it >myself, I've >asked Santa for one of the I/O style video processing boards on my >Christmas list. Hope you get one :-), I want to see the secret files too. >>>Just wonderin... why is the Cyclotron called a "missile" in the "Secret >>>Files" screen? I know it's launched from the TurboKat, but what gives? > >>Maybe because the Cyclotron look like a missile when it was launced from >>the TurboKat. > >It's only labelled "missile" in the "Secret Files" thing. The >Hanna-Barbera literature >directed at toy manufacturers makes it quite clear that Cyclotron is a >vehicle. Probably >the same morons who made Razor's nose white on the Home Video boxes also >figured >a missile has wheels. Hmmm..., a missile with wheels, maybe Razor could build a mini missile with wheels and called it the "RAT" missile (If he already built them, then I'm sorry, I only saw 9 SwatKats episode). >I'd hate to be a military pilot stationed in Atlanta. They probaly has their weapons confuse there. :-) (Stuff about Turner deleted) >This is the guy we have to beg to renew the Kats? I'm affraid so. :-( From mbotwin@ny.psca.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: Mitch Botwin Date: Fri, 8 Dec 95 12:09:27 -0500 Subject: Re: Let's talk about Lt.Steel. --NeXT-Mail-557866351-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would say he was younger then the Kats, not that soon out of = Enforcer school, but with ambition that far out stepped his = ability. He is annoying, and if I was Feral, I would of sent him = back to school, sooner then he was sent. Begin forwarded message: >Let's talk about Mr.Steel, what do you think about him ? and do = you think >that he is older than the SwatKats ? Mitch Botwin ------------------------------- Paradigm =20 mbotwin@ny.psca.com (212) 850-8100 Beeper (917) 641-6119 -------------------------------- --NeXT-Mail-557866351-1 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would say he was younger then the Kats, not that soon out of = Enforcer school, but with ambition that far out stepped his = ability. He is annoying, and if I was Feral, I would of sent him = back to school, sooner then he was sent. Begin forwarded message: >Let's talk about Mr.Steel, what do you think about him ? and do = you think >that he is older than the SwatKats ? Mitch Botwin ------------------------------- Paradigm =20 mbotwin@ny.psca.com (212) 850-8100 Beeper (917) 641-6119 -------------------------------- --NeXT-Mail-557866351-1-- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 18:22:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: How many vehicle does the SwatKats has ? >Yeah. Unfortunately, the Cartoon Network seems to have been deleting the "Secret >Files" interstitials and replacing them with those obnoxious "We Are Cartoons" things. >What I'd really like to do is have someone with access to a frame grabber and a tape >library cull all of the "Secret Files" things and post them up to the rat.org site. I want >either the Razor or T-Bone one for my Windows Wallpaper! I might do it myself, I've >asked Santa for one of the I/O style video processing boards on my Christmas list. I've already started doing this... So far, I've got all the ones from the videotapes available in the stores. Look for them on the ftp site soon! ---------------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us play: matt_w@newscorp.mci.com NOTE: !!Please update your address books with the new address!! ---------------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 18:26:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Let's talk about Lt.Steel. >>Let's talk about Mr.Steel, what do you think about him ? and do you think >>that he is older than the SwatKats ? Actually, I believe his name is spelled "Steele" according to the name plate he replaced Feral's with in "Wrath of Dark Kat" (I think). Even though he tells Annie that his name is "Steele -- with 2 e's" I think it means 2 "e's" in a row and not "ea" as in Steal. ---------------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us play: matt_w@newscorp.mci.com NOTE: !!Please update your address books with the new address!! ---------------------------------------------------------------- From lsetnor@got.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: lsetnor@got.net (Leslie Setnor) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 18:24:15 -0800 Subject: Re: How many vehicle does the SwatKats has ? >Oh yeah, a note on Ted Turner. He really doesn't have a sense of >humour and may in fact be a stark raving loony. Anyone catch "Toby >Danger" on "Freakazoid"? Well, one of the storyboard artists at >Warners tells me that Ted Turnerwas apoplectic at seeing the thing, >and Jane Fonda herself called up "Toby"'s writer and berated him for >over half an hour for causing her hubby so much distress. Special. >This is the guy we have to beg to renew the Kats? I didn't catch that episode. What did it have to do with ol' Uncle Ted? Karen Setnor lsetnor@got,net mcjd61b@prodigy.com "Ah, crud Razor!" From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 08:40:22 +0700 Subject: Re: Let's talk about Lt.Steel. >>Let's talk about Mr.Steel, what do you think about him ? and do you think >>that he is older than the SwatKats ? > >I would say he was younger then the Kats, not that soon out of Enforcer school, He maybe a little older than Razor, and a little bit younger than T-Bone, his age probaly fit between them. (BTW, if Steel is lieutenant, then what is the Kat guys rank before Feral kick them out ?) >but with ambition that far out >stepped his ability. Maybe he's done something in the past that make him very proud, too proud for his own good. >He is annoying, and if I was Feral, I would of sent him back to school, >sooner then he was sent. If I was Feral, I use him as a target practice :-), why waste money on building robotic drone target, when you can use a real living breathing target for practice. (With false ammo of course, you don't really think that I will shot him for real, do you ?) >Mitch Botwin From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 08:40:19 +0700 Subject: Re: Let's talk about Lt.Steel. >>Let's talk about Mr.Steel, what do you think about him ? and do you think >>that he is older than the SwatKats ? > >I don't know, but he sure likes blaming them. :) His needed a conversatonal subject for looking good to his superior, namely Commander Feral. >Try checking out Chance's story, "Swat Kats Unmasked." He did a lot of >embelishing and adding to the guy's character. Yes I read Chance's story, although it's nice to have Steel act that way, but it's very unlikely that Steel will ever do catch the SwatKats. >But, really, let's face it: Steel >is a weanie and not-to-nice. Makes you wonder how he managed to become >Leiutenant in the first place. Yes, this is why I confuse, Felina maybe can be a Lieutenant, but Steel ? he's must be do something very great in the past to earned that rank, probaly in the academy days. (With someone help of course) ***Below this is Sonic stuff, you can skip this part*** >P.S. Are you in the Sonic group too? No, do you know where I can join ? I love Sonic (The game is my primary interest not the cartoon, although I also watch the cartoon), as matter a fact I noticed SwatKats directory while I was looking for Sonic stuff at rat.org, but I skipped it since I want to see them in action in the Cartoon Network (Don't want to see them before I see them on TV), the SwatKats is coming soon to Cartoon Network at that time (The really funny part is I thought the SwatKats is flying a biplane instead of a jet, I was thinking of Tails biplane when is their directory). >'kay bye >Terra (Chang) From leetwail@iscs.nus.sg Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: Leet Wai Leong Simon Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 19:55:50 +0800 (GMT-8) Subject: Fanfic! Hi folks, just an announcement ... I've finally finished my piece of fanfic and I seem to be having problems getting into rat.org ... are there any violent objections to me sending it to the mailing list? It's big ... about 92K, although I could probably break it down into smaller parts. General question: How many people out there are interested in reading fiction about characters set in the SWATKats universe, but not the original characters from the series itself? Edo Andromedo's post about the SWATKat's ally and the sub thing got me thinking about it ... Simon Leet :) - "You know you're in trouble when ... you think divinity is a triple-layered cheesecake and being sinful is having too much divinity." From mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net (David Minter) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 06:51:45 -0600 Subject: Re: Let's talk about Lt.Steel. >Let's talk about Mr.Steel, what do you think about him ? and do you think >that he is older than the SwatKats ? I think he's Razor's older brother. I judge this merely by the fact that they have the same sounding voice. :> David Minter mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net ( What an original signature! ) From rat@granite.mv.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: Ratman Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 08:41:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Let's talk about Lt.Steel. On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, David Minter wrote: > >Let's talk about Mr.Steel, what do you think about him ? and do you think > >that he is older than the SwatKats ? > > I think he's Razor's older brother. I judge this merely by the fact > that they have the same sounding voice. :> That would be a cool twist. Maybe Steel was so ashamed at what Jake did to the enforcer building, that he pretends he doesn't know him. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- email: rat@rat.org WWW : http://rat.org FTP : ftp://rat.org/pub ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rat@granite.mv.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: Ratman Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 08:38:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Fanfic! On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Leet Wai Leong Simon wrote: > > Hi folks, just an announcement ... > I've finally finished my piece of fanfic and I seem to be having problems > getting into rat.org ... are there any violent objections to me sending > it to the mailing list? It's big ... about 92K, although I could probably > break it down into smaller parts. Yes there are. It's is against list policy. If you can't get it to rat.org, you're supposed to email it to me, then I can put it on rat.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------- email: rat@rat.org WWW : http://rat.org FTP : ftp://rat.org/pub ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 08:47:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Can the TurboKat swim ? On Tue, 5 Dec 1995, Felix Lee wrote: > whichever makes for a better story. do you want the Kats stopped cold > by the clever villain diving into the ocean, or do you want the Kats > trying out their newly-modified submersible TurboKat, so you can > explore the differences between aerodynamics and hydrodynamics? (and > don't forget option c) none of the above.) Razor: T-Bone! Go to the speed of water!!!! (Sorry, couldn't help it. That would be neat though. Probably create some whirlpools.) A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 20:29:51 +0700 Subject: Re: Fanfic! >Hi folks, just an announcement ... >I've finally finished my piece of fanfic and I seem to be having problems >getting into rat.org ... are there any violent objections to me sending >it to the mailing list? Just ask someone to do it for you, OK ! does anybody here want to help him ? >It's big ... about 92K, although I could probably >break it down into smaller parts. Yes, maybe you can do it ala Midnight Magic, but don't send it to the list, it isn't going to pleasent to over than 50 people to find out that their mailbox has gone 92k bigger. >General question: >How many people out there are interested in reading fiction about >characters set in the SWATKats universe, but not the original characters >from the series itself? Edo Andromedo's post about the SWATKat's ally and >the sub thing got me thinking about it ... Never thought that I will ever come a conversational subject before :-), I actualy do have a lot non original character to developed, just needed someone to help me write it down to bytes. >Simon Leet :) >- "You know you're in trouble when ... > you think divinity is a triple-layered cheesecake > and being sinful is having too much divinity." From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 20:29:39 +0700 Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor >Edo Andromedo wrote: >> >> >>>:) Yeah, I've heard of actors being type-cast, but a _voice-actor_??! >> >> >> >>Maybe it's a new trend. :-) >> > >> >Happens all the time. >> >> Ok, so it's an old thing, I'm lack of knowledge in this thing. :-) > >Frank Welker (who voices "Dr. Viper"), once did an animal noise on some >animated project and has been "specializing" in them ever since. Right now, >aside from "Viper", he's "Uni" on the old "Dungeons and Dragons" series, >"Darwin" on "Seaquest 2032", I liked when he say something to Bridger or Lucas. (When he's voicing for Darwin) Maybe if the SwatKats ever do meet a Dolphin, Frank probaly the one that they call. :-) >"Tokka and Razhar" on "TMNT:Secret of the Ooze", >and a bazillion other things. Busy dude, and whenever someone needs to give >a snake its hiss or a bee its buzz - Frank's the guy they call. So the conlusion is that Frank Welker expertise are voicing for talking animal voices , am I right ? BTW does the same also goes to Callie voice actor ? I see some resemblance between Callie and other cartoon character that Tress gives her sound to. PS: Does she also gives voice to Gadget from Disney "Rescue Rangers" ? please answer that question or I will never the same person again if I don't know who is giving Gadget her sound. (Gadget is the one who is wearing pilot goggles and her hair look like Callie's) From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 09:16:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: SK IQ on TCN Has anyone seen SWAT Kats IQ on the cartoon network? I'm making epsiode tapes for some friends for x-mas, and I'd like to have SK IQ along with them. I'll wait for a reply here before I write to ToonNet. A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 08:58:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Regarding letters to HB, etc. On Wed, 6 Dec 1995, Timothy D Fay wrote: > > You need QuickTime for Windows. It's available at all the usual sites (and > usually comes pre-installed with Windows 95). > > -Tim > > YES! Chance! Please upload it to rat! How large is it? What is the video about? Also, I might be getting Video Blaster RT-300. Will that let me pull video clips from a VCR or TV and turn them into a MOV or AVI file? If so, in about 6 months, you might see some SK MOVs or AVI at rat. A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 09:11:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: How many vehicle does the SwatKats has ? On Wed, 6 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > >Razor and T-Bone have nothing but "bad vehicle days" when using the > >"Cyclotron"; I don't think it's ever survived an episode intact - damn > >thing is a jinx! > > The Cyclotron seems to get wasted in almost every episode, are this one of > SwatKats trademark ? > > >My favourite Cyclotron scenes are the Evel Kneivel style "jump" in "Deadly > >Pyramid" - the > >scene with the two Kat guys riding it on the open road from the same ep, > >and those shots > >with Razor firing missiles from it in "Razor's Edge" and I think "Enter > >the MadKat". > > My favourite Cyclotron is when it got hit by the pyramid spear trap and the > thruster jump on the pyramid lava trap, and when in the episode "A bright > and shiny future" T-Bone slide through danger with the Cyclotron. > > This two episode has the Cyclotron destroyed as well. > > > I was editing my 1st season tapes last night, and The Cyclotron didn't get trashed in these following eps. (That I remember.) "The Giant Bacteria" (T-5secs. 4-3-2-1- GOTCHA!) "The Ghost Pilot" (Ready to try again, Mayor?) From 2nd season "Razor's Edge" (Now get your tail up here!) Hmm. I think that's it. Anyone to add to the "Cyclotron Intact" list???!!! A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 09:30:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Can the TurboKat swim ? On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Kay Chang wrote: > > >I know that she did get an offer to take a ride in the TurboKat, and I know > >that she did take the offer, but where did she sit in the TurboKat (Did she > >sit in the cockpit ? or did she sit inside the TurboKat (Not the cockpit > >part) ? > > Have you ever seen "The Giant Bacteria"? You see Callie sitting behind Razor > when they blast out from Megakat Biochemical. Also, I think in "Destructive > Nature", you see Razor put Callie behind his seat or something like that. > Those of you who have time to reveiw your tapes please check it out and > confirm, 'kay? > > 'kay bye > Terra (Chang) Confirmed. Just went through tapes last night, 1st season. that is. A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 10:21:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: How many missles does the SWAT Kats have? Ok, now that we have the vehicles down pat, how about all the missles? Octopus missle Cookie Cutter missle (Great For Baking!) Pincer missle Mole Missle 1 (Used in Wrath of DK) Mole Missle 2 (Used in Razor's Edge) Those diamond tint missles used in "Metal Urgency" (What's the name of them?) Buzz Saw missle Cement Machine Gun There's much more. Please add to this list. A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 08:46:41 -0800 Subject: Christian's Kats Contest results...(say _that_ three times fast!) Merry Christmas to all the Kat fans direct from Christian Tremblay! Some of us will get to open our presents a bit early this year - at least three of us anyway - so without further ado: Ist Prize: Tim Hewing from That Place in Illinois 2nd Prize: "Staying Tiny Toon'd is Michael Russell in Orlando, Florida" 3rd Prize: "SWATKATSWATKATS"... Our own A.J. Freda from deepest, darkest Michigan! Have fun guys, and try not to drool over the stuff before you get a chance to scan it in for _all_ of us to drool over! (I'll post a version of this to the newsgroups in the morning. Winners, don't hang your prize too close to that "Ted Turner" dartboard...things could get ugly.) _____________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 23:52:54 +0700 Subject: Re: Can the TurboKat swim ? >On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Kay Chang wrote: > >> you see Razor put Callie behind his seat or something like that. >> Those of you who have time to review your tapes please check it out and >> confirm, 'kay? >> >> 'kay bye >> Terra (Chang) > >Confirmed. Just went through tapes last night, 1st season. that is. Ok, does she sit behind Razor seat ? or behind Razor ? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 23:52:58 +0700 Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? >Ok, now that we have the vehicles down pat, how about all the missles? > >Octopus missle >Cookie Cutter missle (Great For Baking!) >Pincer missle >Mole Missle 1 (Used in Wrath of DK) >Mole Missle 2 (Used in Razor's Edge) >Those diamond tint missles used in "Metal Urgency" (What's the name of them?) >Buzz Saw missle >Cement Machine Gun Are the cement machine gun can be classified as a missile ? >There's much more. Please add to this list. Baby boomer missile (Used to destroy Dark Kat ship in "The Wrath of Dark Kat", but failed) Somekind of electric missile that was use to destroy Dark Kat ship force field (T-Bone: This one is for you Razor). Somekind of missile that has some drill in front of it but is attached to the Turbokat (Used in "When Strike Mutilor") Decoy missile (Used with conjuction of plan Z) A couple of mini missile that was fired to many alien ship fighter (Used in "When Strikes Mutilor") A missile that burn the oil sucking ell. (T-Bone: CRUD, now we have to have the TurboKat wash) A missile with a Sword in front of it (It use the same sword that Razor pulled it out from the stone) A couple of missile that was fired to Mutilor fighters (One of them slip and stuck in Mutilor cannon, BOOM) Please give the anonymous missile their name. (I forget their names) I also have some missile speculation for adding the SwatKats missile collection. (Some of them may appear in my story) From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 11:18:41 -0800 Subject: Re: How many missles does the SWAT Kats have? >Ok, now that we have the vehicles down pat, how about all the missles? > >Octopus missle >Cookie Cutter missle (Great For Baking!) >Pincer missle >Mole Missle 1 (Used in Wrath of DK) >Mole Missle 2 (Used in Razor's Edge) >Those diamond tint missles used in "Metal Urgency" (What's the name of them?) >Buzz Saw missle >Cement Machine Gun > >There's much more. Please add to this list. Oh, Banshee Missile, Groundhog Missile, Plain Old Missile ("From Razor with Love") Tar Head missile, DeadHead Missile, Drillbit missile ("Razor's Edge"), Match-head Missile...now all we need is a Renewal Missile. _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 11:18:46 -0800 Subject: Re: BOUNCE kats from Razor (I ain't sayin' a word!) > >>Andy sez: >>>There's a beautiful shot of Razor running against a typical Anime "blurred >>>>colored-streak" background in "Bright and Shiny Future" (I think?) that >>>could've easily been edited out entirely. >>Are you referring to the scene in "The Deadly Pyramid" where Razor attacks >>the two mummies' eye shields when he and T-Bone are both inside the >>pyramid? Nope (though "Deadly" was damned outstanding in every respect), definitely "Bright and Shiny Future". T-Bone and Razor are running the gauntlet of Mac and Molly's "non-metallic life form" traps while driving through downtown on the Cyclotron, and Razor gets pulled out of his seat by some metallic arm (and that's happened an awful lot, hasn't it?). Razor frees himself by slicing through the thing with Glovatrix, and then is shown running and raising up the Glovatrix to fire at something else in a beautiful scene of about a hundred or so frames against the "blurry" anime-ish background. The art in the whole ep ain't too bad, but this particular scene and T-Bone's reaction to seeing his Kat-bud yanked from behind him boost "ain't too bad" into the realm of jaw-dropping awesome. _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 11:18:43 -0800 Subject: Re: Fanfic! >Hi folks, just an announcement ... >I've finally finished my piece of fanfic and I seem to be having problems >getting into rat.org ... are there any violent objections to me sending >it to the mailing list? It's big ... about 92K, although I could probably >break it down into smaller parts. I kind of unilaterally posted mine, but seems Rat thinks that's a bad idea (all at once anyway...yeah, it probably wouldn't be too swift). What I would suggest is posting an excerpt from the first part to the list so people can get an idea of what it's all about, then mailing the rest to me or Rat, and either of us will upload it to the site ('course, Rat holds the keys, so he'll be doing all the work regardless). Fellow Kats, I've read the first half of Simon's story and I personally think it's great. I *still* haven't had time to read the other fanfic on our site, though Christmas break should solve that particular problem. >General question: >How many people out there are interested in reading fiction about >characters set in the SWATKats universe, but not the original characters >from the series itself? Edo Andromedo's post about the SWATKat's ally and >the sub thing got me thinking about it ... Tough one. What I liked about the series was that the peripheral characters were so well done that they could support an episode entirely devoted to each of them (with the possible exception of Burke and Murray). I suppose you could expand on that and create yet further additions to the Kat world, and I think many of us Kat-hungry types would read 'em. I would. _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 11:18:32 -0800 Subject: Re: Let's talk about Lt.Steel. >>I would say he was younger then the Kats, not that soon out of Enforcer school, > >He maybe a little older than Razor, and a little bit younger than T-Bone, >his age probaly fit between them. (BTW, if Steel is lieutenant, then what >is the Kat guys rank before Feral kick them out ?) Megakat City seems to have an odd command structure in the ranks of the Enforcers, but it looks as though the crews of the Jumpers and Choppers are simply "Officer" so-and-so. I think that's the way it works with the airborne cops in Houston's "Astro" division, and whatever LA calls it's sky patrol. I think you're dead on with the age. >>but with ambition that far out >stepped his ability. > >Maybe he's done something in the past that make him very proud, too proud >for his own good. Nah. You know what Steel is? His mommy and daddy are Cape Cod style socialites with way too much money, an overprotective nature, and more "influence" in Law Enforcement circles than the Kennedy clan. Steel probably did very well academically at the Enforcer Academy, but likely washed out in anything requiring backing up your troop-mates or other endeavours requiring a smidgen of teamwork. I'd bet that Mommy and Daddy pulled strings to get him a commission straight out of the Academy, where Kats like Jake and Chance had to *work* for it through the ranks like _real_ troops. He's got lots of ambition, likely is used to doing things solely for the gratification of Mommy and Daddy's three-martini Yacht Club bragging sessions, and doesn't deal with failure well. That said, he's probably a decent sort of Kat in the right set of circumstances, but doesn't understand that the "goal" is only as valuable as the experience gained in achieving it. He'll move up through the ranks, but it'll be in a kind of Klingon-promotion vein; someone else has to be utterly destroyed before you can fill their shoes. He'll get where he wants, but won't have any friends left when he arrives. It's no bargain. >If I was Feral, I use him as a target practice :-), why waste money on >building robotic drone target, when you can use a real living breathing >target for practice. (With false ammo of course, you don't really think >that I will shot him for real, do you ?) Hmm...try talking to some of the officers that come out of OCS as opposed to West Point. Scary. _____________________________________________________________ From CNbL@aol.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: CNbL@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 15:01:11 -0500 Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? >Ok, now that we have the vehicles down pat, how about all the missles? >Octopus missle >Cookie Cutter missle (Great for baking!) >Pincer missle >Mole Missle 1 (Used in Wrath of DK) >Mole Missle 2 (Used inRazor's Edge) >Those diamond tipped missles used in Metal Urgency >Buzz Saw missle >Cement Machine Gun >There's much more, please add to the list. There's also: Megavolt missle (The Giant Bacteria) Plain Old missle (Chaos in Crystal) Banchi missle ( " " " ) Slicer missle Wire-Clipper missle (Night of the DK) Turboblades ( if you call them missles) Blowtorch missle (Launched from cycletron in Ghost Pilot) Shark missle (The Metallikats) Spider missle (Pastmaster Always Rings Twice) Match-Head missle Wrapper missle (Bride of the Pastmaster) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 04:35:13 +0700 Subject: Re: Let's talk about Lt.Steel. >On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, David Minter wrote: > >> >Let's talk about Mr.Steel, what do you think about him ? and do you think >> >that he is older than the SwatKats ? >> >> I think he's Razor's older brother. I judge this merely by the fact >> that they have the same sounding voice. :> > >That would be a cool twist. Maybe Steel was so ashamed at what Jake did to >the enforcer building, that he pretends he doesn't know him. He may even change his last name because of the Enforcer building incident, although this may make an interesting story plot, but it's very unlikely that there will be a TV series that contains this.(Oh yeah, does Steel is his last name ? or his first name ?) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 04:35:21 +0700 Subject: Re: Let's talk about Lt.Steel. >>>I would say he was younger then the Kats, not that soon out of Enforcer >>>school, >> >>He maybe a little older than Razor, and a little bit younger than T-Bone, >>his age probaly fit between them. (BTW, if Steel is lieutenant, then what >>is the Kat guys rank before Feral kick them out ?) > >I think you're dead on with the age. Dead on ? >>>but with ambition that far out >stepped his ability. >> >>Maybe he's done something in the past that make him very proud, too proud >>for his own good. (Steel life story is deleted for cutting down the size) In which episode that this was explain ? or are this is your opinion on Steel life ? >>If I was Feral, I use him as a target practice :-), why waste money on >>building robotic drone target, when you can use a real living breathing >>target for practice. (With false ammo of course, you don't really think >>that I will shot him for real, do you ?) > >Hmm...try talking to some of the officers that come out of OCS as opposed >to West Point. >Scary. Did they really use living target practice on OCS ? From kaychang@eden.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 16:06:24 -0600 (CST) Subject: Is it just me or does Razor get caught alot?? Hiya. Is it just me or do bad things happen to Razor a whole lot?? Like in "The Ci-kat-a," Razor gets snagged, he nearly drowns in "Mutation City," and his self-confidence is shattered for a little while in "Razor's Edge," etc. etc. And also the fanfic so far. Mostly Ryan's "Midnight Magic," but if ya read it there is something defietly wrong with him, and Courtney, with Razor's Nemesis"..... Jeez! Jeez and rice! P.S. Razor's Nemesis is almost down. Expect it by next week or so. Terra Chang "It's not the pace of life I'm scared of, it's the sudden stop at the end." Death to Ted Turner!!!! From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 17:13:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Christian's Kats Contest results...(say _that_ three times fast!) On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, chance wrote: > > Merry Christmas to all the Kat fans direct from Christian Tremblay! Some of us will get to > open our presents a bit early this year - at least three of us anyway - so without further ado: > > Ist Prize: Tim Hewing from That Place in Illinois > 2nd Prize: "Staying Tiny Toon'd is Michael Russell in Orlando, Florida" > 3rd Prize: "SWATKATSWATKATS"... Our own A.J. Freda from > deepest, darkest Michigan! > > Have fun guys, and try not to drool over the stuff before you get a chance to scan it in for > _all_ of us to drool over! Sorry, don't have a scanner yet... > (I'll post a version of this to the newsgroups in the morning. Winners, don't hang > your prize too close to that "Ted Turner" dartboard...things could get ugly.) Ha Ha. Where can I get a Ted Turner Dartboard? A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 17:11:11 -0800 Subject: Re: Is it just me or does Razor get caught alot?? >Hiya. Is it just me or do bad things happen to Razor a whole lot?? Like in >"The Ci-kat-a," Razor gets snagged, he nearly drowns in "Mutation City," and >his self-confidence is shattered for a little while in "Razor's Edge," etc. >etc. And also the fanfic so far. Mostly Ryan's "Midnight Magic," but if ya >read it there is something defietly wrong with him, and Courtney, with >Razor's Nemesis"..... Hmm...I haven't read Ryan's story yet, but Razor is meant to be the variable in the show, and T-Bone largely constant. That doesn't mean T-Bone doesn't have more than one side to his personality too, it just means he's less likely to be affected by the stresses and strains of hero-dom like Razor. T-Bone is kind of a Teflon Kat, nothing sticks - he just shrugs it off and keeps his focus on the big picture. The downside to a personality like that is when something *does* penetrate his thick hide, it's likely to take quite the toll on an emotional level and leave him devastated - like if Razor really did croak due to some misfortune or other. T-Bone's one of those Kats you can rely on utterly in a nasty situation to keep his calm, do the job, and survive to do it again the next day. Not sure about Razor. He's confident enough, certainly possesses the skills to take care of himself, but isn't as self-assured (or egocentric?) as T-Bone is, and it can end up a handicap in a situation like "Razor's Edge". For the record, Razor is my favourite character on the show because he's kind of like everybody's smaller brother. Go fig. >"It's not the pace of life I'm scared of, it's the sudden stop at the end." > >Death to Ted Turner!!!! That's not nice, poor Hanoi Jane would have to get a real job. _____________________________________________________________ From danramos@ix.netcom.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: Dan Ramos Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 19:13:24 -0800 Subject: Re: Fanfic! At 07:55 PM 12/9/95 +0800, you wrote: > >Hi folks, just an announcement ... >I've finally finished my piece of fanfic and I seem to be having problems >getting into rat.org ... are there any violent objections to me sending >it to the mailing list? It's big ... about 92K, although I could probably >break it down into smaller parts. ACK!! 92K?!?!!? I don't wanna hafta download 92K JUST to check my mail! :P From mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net (David Minter) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 21:04:51 -0600 Subject: Re: Christian's Kats Contest results...(say _that_ three times fast!) >Merry Christmas to all the Kat fans direct from Christian Tremblay! Some of us >open our presents a bit early this year - at least three of us anyway - so So, how many entries finally did arrive into the contest? From what it sounded like, it appeared to be pretty baren. Did extending the deadline help get in many more entries? David Minter mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net ( What an original signature! ) From leetwail@iscs.nus.sg Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: Leet Wai Leong Simon Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 11:34:25 +0800 (GMT-8) Subject: Re: Fanfic! Ok, my piece is now officially at http://rat.org/pub/kats/stories/stakes.txt or FTP at the same address. check it out! P/S: Heh, with all this talk about how Razor always gets clobbered, this might not be such a good time to read my piece ;) Simon Leet :) - "You know you're in trouble when ... you think divinity is a triple-layered cheesecake and being sinful is having too much divinity." From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 13:16:12 +0700 Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? >>Ok, now that we have the vehicles down pat, how about all the missiles? > >>Octopus missile >>Cookie Cutter missle (Great for baking!) >>Pincer missle >>Mole Missile 1 (Used in Wrath of DK) >>Mole Missile 2 (Used inRazor's Edge) >>Those diamond tipped missles used in Metal Urgency >>Buzz Saw missile >>Cement Machine Gun > >>There's much more, please add to the list. > > >There's also: >Megavolt missile (The Giant Bacteria) Are this is the same missile that T-Bone use to destroy Dark Kat force field ? >Blowtorch missile (Launched from cycletron in Ghost Pilot) Are the Blowtorch missile also been used to give the monster ell a stomach burn in "The Bride of the Pastmaster" ? >Shark missile (The Metallikats) It ripped out the Metalikats car roof, and the Metalikats decided to return the favor by giving the SwatKats the "Relentless" missile. >Wrapper missile (Bride of the Pastmaster) When is this missile was used ? From rat@granite.mv.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: Ratman Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 09:27:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Fanfic! On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Dan Ramos wrote: > At 07:55 PM 12/9/95 +0800, you wrote: > > > >Hi folks, just an announcement ... > >I've finally finished my piece of fanfic and I seem to be having problems > >getting into rat.org ... are there any violent objections to me sending > >it to the mailing list? It's big ... about 92K, although I could probably > >break it down into smaller parts. > > ACK!! 92K?!?!!? > I don't wanna hafta download 92K JUST to check my mail! :P That is why posting binaries to the list is forbidden. Don't worry, if anybody posts a files to the mailing list, they might find themselves unsubscribed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- email: rat@rat.org WWW : http://rat.org FTP : ftp://rat.org/pub ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lsetnor@got.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: lsetnor@got.net (Leslie Setnor) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 10:04:34 -0800 Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? After listing some 40 different missles they have, I'm thinking about the ones they *should* get... "Ferral Missle DEPLOYED" "Well, at least we won't have to put up with HIM anymore!" Karen Setnor lsetnor@got.net mcjd61b@prodigy.com "Purple Dinosaur Missle, DEPLOYED!!" From lsetnor@got.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: lsetnor@got.net (Leslie Setnor) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 10:11:05 -0800 Subject: Re: Christian's Kats Contest results...(say _that_ three times fast!) >> (I'll post a version of this to the newsgroups in the morning. Winners, don't hang >> your prize too close to that "Ted Turner" dartboard...things could get ugly.) > >Ha Ha. Where can I get a Ted Turner Dartboard? Somebody's going to have to make them and distribute them to everyone on the list. Or Maybe a voodoo doll. (This, BTW, you do NOT mention in your letters to HB.) Karen Setnor lsetnor@got.net mcjd61b@prodigy.com From kaychang@eden.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 12:03:40 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? One question about their missles: are they voice-activated or something like that? Razor always says the name as he deploys it (most of the time, anyway.) So, are they, or was the voice-thingy added so veiwers, (namely, us!) know which missle he's launching or something like that?? Terra Chang "It's not the pace of life I'm scared of, it's the sudden stop at the end." From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 13:27:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: The fanzine Hi! If you're still looking for submissions, I have some artwork you might like. I can email it to you if you like (that would be easier) in any format. The originals are done in Adobe Illustrator for Windows format, but I can convert to PostScript if you like. Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Please note the new play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com <---------------- address ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 13:19:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: SK IQ on TCN At 09:16 AM 12/9/95 -0500, you wrote: >Has anyone seen SWAT Kats IQ on the cartoon network? I'm making epsiode >tapes for some friends for x-mas, and I'd like to have SK IQ along with them. > >I'll wait for a reply here before I write to ToonNet. I've been making recordings for a friend too, and haven't seen the SK IQ on TCN at all. They're on the 3rd (I think) run-through of the complete series right now. ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Please note the new play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com <---------------- address ---------------------------------------------------------- From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 14:06:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Fanfic! I wouldn't mind having a binary in a mailing list. I like to read those stories. If you can't upload it to rat, please e-mail me a copy. Thanx. TURBOKAT BBS opening! My TurboKat BBS is now open, running "JetBBS" (Good reason to call it "TurboKat" most of the fanfic is on the BBS, and there is a posting room for SWAT Kats. Here's the info, if you don't mind long distance: 1 Line, 300-57600bps 24hrs. a day,/ 7 days a week (Unless I'm on the internet or checking mail.) I made some SK ansi screens too. Anyone who's on this mailing list gets FREE access. A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 14:10:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: The fanzine Please UUENCODE it in a JPG, GIF, BMP, CUT, or anything Paint Shop Pro can read or convert. Please e-mail it UUENCODED to not this address, but this one:: TAILS@Elgrande.win.net On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, MATT WEBER wrote: > Hi! If you're still looking for submissions, I have some artwork you might > like. I can email it to you if you like (that would be easier) in any > format. The originals are done in Adobe Illustrator for Windows format, but > I can convert to PostScript if you like. > > Thanks > ---------------------------------------------------------- > work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Please note the new > play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com <---------------- address > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 14:42:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: The fanzine At 01:27 PM 12/10/95 -0500, you wrote: >Hi! If you're still looking for submissions, I have some artwork you might Sorry! Sorry! Sorry! somehow the To: line got the wrong address! ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Please note the new play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com <---------------- address ---------------------------------------------------------- From clell@gxl.woodtech.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: "Clell A. Harmon" Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 17:38:36 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, Kay Chang wrote: > One question about their missles: are they voice-activated or something like > that? Razor always says the name as he deploys it (most of the time, > anyway.) So, are they, or was the voice-thingy added so veiwers, (namely, > us!) know which missle he's launching or something like that?? > Terra Chang > Perhaps it is for T-Bone's benefit. There may be different things that he must do for the Turbokat to launch each missile optimally, or perhaps it is to allow him to anticipate the weight change of missiles leaving from different ammo bays, and from different launch facilities of the plane.... Or maybe it's just for dramatic effect...... From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 07:08:26 +0700 Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? >After listing some 40 different missles they have, I'm thinking about the >ones they *should* get... > >"Ferral Missle DEPLOYED" "Well, at least we won't have to put up with HIM >anymore!" Does this missile homing on Feral ? if the SwatKats can make that maybe they should make the "Turner" missile ? :-) Anyone want to push the button ? :-) >Karen Setnor >lsetnor@got.net >mcjd61b@prodigy.com > >"Purple Dinosaur Missle, DEPLOYED!!" From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 07:08:23 +0700 Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? >One question about their missles: are they voice-activated or something like >that? No, I don't think so, I always saw Razor push a button before deploying the missile, so I didn't think that they are voice activated. (SwatKats technology aren't that hi-tech) >Razor always says the name as he deploys it (most of the time, >anyway.) So, are they, or was the voice-thingy added so viewers, (namely, >us!) know which missile he's launching or something like that?? >Terra Chang I think he got that saying missile name first habit from the Enforcer days, pilots always say something first before they do anything, I think that is done to let know their friend that they are going to do something. Or they may added that voice thing to know us which missile are fired. :-) >"It's not the pace of life I'm scared of, it's the sudden stop at the end." From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 16:24:52 -0800 Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? >One question about their missles: are they voice-activated or something like >that? Razor always says the name as he deploys it (most of the time, >anyway.) So, are they, or was the voice-thingy added so veiwers, (namely, >us!) know which missle he's launching or something like that?? It's just an illustrative thing done specifically for the audience, but it could also be considered as similar to the "bombs away" warning given by the bombardier to the plane's pilot in the war; warning him to compensate for the sudden weight reduction in the aircraft due to the 20,000-odd pounds of bombs no longer in the bomb-bay. In modern jet warfare (Vietnam anyway), the weapons officer like Razor would also often say something like "missile away" or "missile deployed" to warn the pilot to shield his eyes from the flash of something like a Shrike or a Sidewinder. A blinded pilot, even if temporarily, falls neatly into the category of a Bad Thing. ("Bad Thing" TM "Thunderlizards Productions", 1993,1995. All Rights Reserved.) _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 16:35:32 -0800 Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? >>After listing some 40 different missles they have, I'm thinking about the >>ones they *should* get... >> >>"Ferral Missle DEPLOYED" "Well, at least we won't have to put up with HIM >>anymore!" > >Does this missile homing on Feral ? if the SwatKats can make that maybe >they should make the "Turner" missile ? :-) > >Anyone want to push the button ? :-) Heh. The line forms outside... _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 16:24:33 -0800 Subject: Re: Christian's Kats Contest results...(say _that_ three times fast!) > So, how many entries finally did arrive into the contest? From what it >sounded like, it appeared to be pretty baren. Did extending the deadline >help get in many more entries? Actually, extending the deadline was really just to account for the problems with overseas mail arriving the same month it was mailed. Christian got 40 entries, seemed a bit disappointed, but wasn't really aware how internet works (i.e., me putting something on the 'net does not immediately mean it simultaneously appears on every computer screen on the globe!). Part of it was my server's fault, as the first post went out "local distribution" to those areas that got it at all. (Don't ask me, I have no idea how that's possible either). I didn't get enough advance warning to run an ad in "Animato!", TCN, or any of the trade pubs, but..well, better luck next time. I'm going to send the Tremblay Bros. a kind of pictorial representation of the Internet to show exactly how few Katfans I was actually able to reach in comparison to however many their actually are. (It probably would've helped had I been able to tell folks _exactly_ what they were going to get, but since the Kats have rather a cheap Uncle in Atlanta, that idea probably wouldn't have gone over well.) _____________________________________________________________ From GVVY03C@Prodigy.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: GVVY03C@Prodigy.com (B-KO DAITOKUJI) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 19:12:40 EST Subject: is it just me, or.... >Hiya. Is it just me or do bad things happen to Razor a whole lot?? Like in >"The Ci-kat-a," Razor gets snagged, he nearly drowns in "Mutation City," and >his self-confidence is shattered for a little while in "Razor's Edge, " etc. >etc. And also the fanfic so far. Mostly Ryan's "Midnight Magic," but if ya >read it there is something defietly wrong with him, and Courtney, with >Razor's Nemesis"..... >Jeez! Let me explain..... I've always seen T-Bone get beat up a lot more than Razor, who seems to get a little bad crud, but still a lot of attention, like in Bride Of Pastmaster (I never put the in front of Pastmaster's name, call me crazy!), Callista fell for Razor and T- Bone gets stuck doing the dirty work. Besides, I seem to have a knack of one way or another, finding another way for Razor's demise. With all the beatings I give the SWAT Kats in my stories, I'm surprised no one has called me Ted Turner! >Death to Ted Turner!!!! I could't agree with you more there!!!! (Gotta cut down on my Death to Turner. It's running my LIFE!!!) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 08:09:48 +0700 Subject: Re: Fanfic! >I wouldn't mind having a binary in a mailing list. I like to read those >stories. If you can't upload it to rat, please e-mail me a copy. Thanx. Yes, I don't mind too, but it seems that not everyone in the list has the same opinion. >1 Line, >300-57600bps >24hrs. a day,/ 7 days a week (Unless I'm on the internet or checking mail.) > >I made some SK ansi screens too. Anyone who's on this mailing list gets >FREE access. Cool ! why don't you send it to rat.org, so that everyone could get one too. (If someone already done that, then I'm sorry for saying this up) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 08:09:50 +0700 Subject: Re: Christian's Kats Contest results...(say _that_ three times fast!) >>> (I'll post a version of this to the newsgroups in the morning. Winners, >don't hang >>> your prize too close to that "Ted Turner" dartboard...things could get >ugly.) >> >>Ha Ha. Where can I get a Ted Turner Dartboard? I one want of those too, if the space was been used for dartboard with someone picture. :-) >Somebody's going to have to make them and distribute them to everyone on the >list. Or Maybe a voodoo doll. Or you could shot those dart board with your very own Glovatrix. (Does anybody here got one ?) >(This, BTW, you do NOT mention in your letters to HB.) Most definetly ! or Turner will put a permanent cancelation to the Kats. >Karen Setnor >lsetnor@got.net >mcjd61b@prodigy.com Maybe Turner got one too, but getting score is not the object of the game, maybe the object of the game is which shows that he is going to cancel, and unfortunenately he make a bullseye on the SwatKats picture. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 08:09:45 +0700 Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? >On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, Kay Chang wrote: > >> One question about their missles: are they voice-activated or something like >> that? Razor always says the name as he deploys it (most of the time, >> anyway.) So, are they, or was the voice-thingy added so veiwers, (namely, >> us!) know which missle he's launching or something like that?? >> Terra Chang >> > Perhaps it is for T-Bone's benefit. There may be different >things that he must do for the Turbokat to launch each missile >optimally, or perhaps it is to allow him to anticipate the weight change >of missiles leaving from different ammo bays, and from different launch >facilities of the plane.... Yes, maybe Razor say it first to let know T-Bone that he is going to do something, although that isn't very necesary since they think alike. > Or maybe it's just for dramatic effect...... Could be ! :-) From rat@granite.mv.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: Ratman Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 21:17:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Fanfic! On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > >I wouldn't mind having a binary in a mailing list. I like to read those > >stories. If you can't upload it to rat, please e-mail me a copy. Thanx. > > Yes, I don't mind too, but it seems that not everyone in the list has the > same opinion. It's a rule. Please follow it. No binaries. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- email: rat@rat.org WWW : http://rat.org FTP : ftp://rat.org/pub ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From CNbL@aol.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: CNbL@aol.com Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 22:39:42 -0500 Subject: Re: Fanfic! Pardon my ignorance, What's a binary? From CNbL@aol.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: CNbL@aol.com Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 22:34:06 -0500 Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? >"Feral Missle, DEPLOYED!" >"Purple Dinosaur Missle, DEPLOYED" Don't forget the Morphin'-Teenager Missle! From CNbL@aol.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: CNbL@aol.com Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 22:34:11 -0500 Subject: Re: SK IQ on TCN I've never seen it either, and I've been watching since they were first showing SWAT Kats. (Dogust) Peace! (This does not apply to things done to Ted Turner, Time Warner, Turnerco, Purple Dinosaurs, etc.) From CNbL@aol.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: CNbL@aol.com Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 22:33:48 -0500 Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? >>There's also: >>Megavolt missle (The Giant Bacteria) >Are this is the same missle that T-Bone use to destroy Dark Kat force field? I believe so. >>Blowtorch missle (Launched from cycletron in Ghost Pilot) >Are the blowtorch missle also been used to give the monstell a stomach burn in "The Bride of the Pastmaster" That was the Match-Head missle. >>Wrapper missle (Bride of the Pastmaster) >When is this missle was used? It's used on the ogre. The SWAT Kats deploy that little car from the back of their jet. They shoot the wrapper missle to wrap up the ogre's legs. BTW The last paragraph of my story (Return of Turmoil) on Rat's web site keeps getting screwed up. I'll probably post it tomorrow on the list for the benefit of those who read my story and didn't get it. It's probably the Turner Curse! Death to Ted Turner! From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:35:19 +0700 Subject: Re: Fanfic! >Pardon my ignorance, What's a binary? A binary can means anything, in the computer world it is the most basic thing that computer will need. When Ratman means binary in that message, Ratman means a computer files. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:35:08 +0700 Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? >>>After listing some 40 different missles they have, I'm thinking about the >>>ones they *should* get... >>> >>>"Ferral Missle DEPLOYED" "Well, at least we won't have to put up with HIM >>>anymore!" >> >>Does this missile homing on Feral ? if the SwatKats can make that maybe >>they should make the "Turner" missile ? :-) >> >>Anyone want to push the button ? :-) > >Heh. The line forms outside... Hmmm...,I wonder if "Jake and Chance garage" willing make a special missile that will homing on somebody, I got some special order if they willing to do it. :-) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:35:17 +0700 Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? >>>There's also: >>>Megavolt missile (The Giant Bacteria) > >>Are this is the same missile that T-Bone use to destroy Dark Kat force >field? > >I believe so. Thanks. :-) >>>Blowtorch missile (Launched from cycletron in Ghost Pilot) > >>Are the blowtorch missile also been used to give the monstell a stomach burn >in "The Bride of the Pastmaster" > >That was the Match-Head missle. Thanks for telling me. :-) >>>Wrapper missle (Bride of the Pastmaster) > >>When is this missile was used? > >It's used on the ogre. The SWAT Kats deploy that little car from the back of >their jet. Oh ! do you mean that Jet-buggy that is also the TurboKat middle engine ? Is that the little car that you mean ? >They shoot the wrapper missile to wrap up the ogre's legs. And the ogre fall down the trench. :-) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:35:10 +0700 Subject: Re: Fanfic! >On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > >> >I wouldn't mind having a binary in a mailing list. I like to read those >> >stories. If you can't upload it to rat, please e-mail me a copy. Thanx. >> >> Yes, I don't mind too, but it seems that not everyone in the list has the >> same opinion. > >It's a rule. And it's a nice rule too. :-) >Please follow it. Don't worry Ratman, nobody is that desperate to send binaries to the list, but some them who send it may not know how to share binaries with other people (I don't receive the instruction on how to share binaries when I join the list, but you tell me how to do it, and I'm still grateful that you told me the right way), so please go easy on first time offender Ratman, they not really a bad people, just a little confuse. >No binaries. Or anything else that look big and you have to download it for a long time when you check your mailbox. (BTW, text file are binaries too, does this mean every message that I send to the list is not allowed ?) Ok ! since this thread is about fanfic, so let's talk about fanfic story, there's some fanfic story that are still in writing like Courtney's "Razor Nemesis" (The writing is done, but the typing ain't done yet), my "Trouble in NeoKat city", Karen's high seas adventure story, and I assume that there is many stories that will be written SwatKats fans. Anybody want to add to this fanfic story list ? From leetwail@iscs.nus.sg Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: Leet Wai Leong Simon Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 19:25:42 +0800 (GMT-8) Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > >>>There's also: > >>>Megavolt missile (The Giant Bacteria) > > > >>Are this is the same missile that T-Bone use to destroy Dark Kat force > >field? > > I believe there was a scrambler missle somewhere too, think it was used against Hard Drive in the tank in "Metal Urgency" ... Can anyone refresh me memory as to how they're different? -Simon Leet :) From mbotwin@ny.psca.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: Mitch Botwin Date: Mon, 11 Dec 95 08:21:34 -0500 Subject: Re: Christian's Kats Contest results...(say _that_ three times fast!) Is it possible to post a list of the 40 names he received. I'm = curious if my postcard arrived? Mitch From rat@granite.mv.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: Ratman Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 08:20:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Fanfic! On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > >Pardon my ignorance, What's a binary? > > A binary can means anything, in the computer world it is the most basic > thing that computer will need. > > When Ratman means binary in that message, Ratman means a computer files. I was afraid of this. As I told him in private email, I don't want stuff like this getting to the list, because 10 people are going to reply. When I say posting binaries, I mean attaching a file to the mail message. Then the mail messages can get pretty big pretty fast. Any other discussion on this matter should be taken up with me. Especially if it's of a technical nature (how do I upload? where do I upload?) and has nothing to do with Kats. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- email: rat@rat.org WWW : http://rat.org FTP : ftp://rat.org/pub ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 09:13:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: (Stuff about Turner deleted) > Anyone want to push the button ? :-) MEEEE!!! MEEEE!!! MEEEEE!!!! If I had a pic of Ted Turner, I'd be more than happy to send you all a dartboard! > >"Purple Dinosaur Missle, DEPLOYED!!" What's a Purple Dinosaur Missle? Dino from Flinstones? A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 09:31:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: SK QT MOV When's the SK video gonna be at rat? and what's it about? I'm anxious. (I love video!) A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 09:25:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? On Sun, 10 Dec 1995 CNbL@aol.com wrote: > >>There's also: > >>Megavolt missle (The Giant Bacteria) > > >Are this is the same missle that T-Bone use to destroy Dark Kat force > field? > No. T-Bone used a SCRAMBLER missle. The megavolt missle has a shield which breaks off and little electric sparks fly around it. (to make it look charged with electricity) The Scrambler missle shows no signs of containing 1,000,000 megavolts when fired, but when it hits, you better be ready. Also the megavolt missle has only 1 megavolt, and the scrambler has 1,000,000 megavolts. Big difference in electrical power here. A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 07:19:29 -0800 Subject: Re: SK IQ on TCN >I've never seen it either, and I've been watching since they were first >showing SWAT Kats. (Dogust) > >Peace! (This does not apply to things done to Ted Turner, Time Warner, >Turnerco, Purple Dinosaurs, etc.) I don't think you're going to see it on the TCN roster anytime soon. If people want this episode to air, I can't think of a better place to voice your thoughts than "toonnet@aol.com". Don't forget to wish them "Merry Katsmas". _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 07:39:53 -0800 Subject: Re: SK QT MOV >When's the SK video gonna be at rat? and what's it about? I'm anxious. (I >love video!) Patience is a virgin...or something like that. Either myself or the creator of it will post to the list when it's up. We're just making sure Aol.com is allowing binaries at the moment - seems to be working fine so far. _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 07:19:44 -0800 Subject: Re: Fanfic! >>On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: >Ok ! since this thread is about fanfic, so let's talk about fanfic story, >there's some fanfic story that are still in writing like Courtney's "Razor >Nemesis" (The writing is done, but the typing ain't done yet), my "Trouble >in NeoKat city", Karen's high seas adventure story, and I assume that there >is many stories that will be written SwatKats fans. > >Anybody want to add to this fanfic story list ? Mark Lungo, the author of the "Animato!" thing, is working on one intermittently that has "Bright and Shiny Future"'s Evil Callie as a main character. I've been trying to find time for one that tentatively has TB & R in the awkward position of having to clear Feral from trumped up charges, and that introduces a fellow classmate from Enforcer Academy days who has *always* known who the Swatkats really are. I'll leave the backstory for this new character pretty cloudy, and if I were a writer for the series, I'd only intend that this guy be _seen_ in key spots in certain episodes, but rarely given any role to speak of aside from the odd phone call or clandestine meeting (kind of like "Ice Pick" on the "X-Files"). Maybe during the Christmas Break I can actually put pen to paper. _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 07:19:31 -0800 Subject: Re: Fanfic! >>Pardon my ignorance, What's a binary? > >A binary can means anything, in the computer world it is the most basic >thing that computer will need. > >When Ratman means binary in that message, Ratman means a computer files. Hate to rain on the parade, but could stuff like this maybe go directly to either me or Rat? It's kind of admin/off-topic, and we don't seem to have any shortage of traffic lately as it is. Now I'm back to happy-go-lucky mode, a "binary" is a non-ASCII file such as a GIF, JPEG, or text file formatted in something like MS WORD or WRITE that you normally send as a MIME attachment or similar that'll make it through the SMTP mail gateways. Unfortunately, a lot of mail readers tend to convert the things automatically, or worse...don't, and you either wait an hour to download your mail, or you end up with unintelligible gibberish. I've had both, I wasn't happy. Fanfic originated as mail and sent piecemeal (i.e., NOT 92K) to the list like a standard post? Dunno. I know how much _some_ folks hate that (though I'm not personally among them). Oh yeah, back on topic. Someone tells me that the U.S. version of the Katvids are now available in certain Canadian K-Marts (if I'm not the only hoser on the list), and cheap too - something like 7.99 Canadian (Monopoly money works too). They evidently only had two of the three titles available though. _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 07:19:40 -0800 Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? My memory won't let me remember who wrote: >>They shoot the wrapper missile to wrap up the ogre's legs. > >And the ogre fall down the trench. :-) I'm surprised that BS&P let H-B get away with that spikey-ball mace style thing hitting old One-eye square in the iris...I distinctly recall going "ooohhhh...that'll leave a mark!" ("Bride of the Pastmaster"). Strange, but though I personally was a bit lukewarm to this episode the first time I saw it, almost everyone writing or contemplating fanfic of some description considers this episode either pivotal, or deserving of some kind of sequel. Knowing that "Turmoil" had a sequel planned, I think the other two crying out for second eps (or fanfic) would be "Bright and Shiny Future" and "The Ghost Pilot". "Pilot" was shot down by H-B staffers because certain folks figured that any followup ep by Von Williams would likely just be a rehash of the original, though I thought the "ending" was sufficiently ambiguous to leave all kinds of possiblities open for exploration. How about the Enforcers dredging the thing up and putting it back into service, only to find out it's "possessed" at inappropriate times? Or for a real twist, how about Dark Kat or one of the other villains stealing the recovered "Blue Manx", arming it with a "Doomsday" type weapon, and discovering that the aircraft itself appears to have "other plans" when sent to its intended target? The Kats could be forced to team up with DK and the Creeplings to prevent the Red Lynx from using the hijacked weapon for his own ends, and you could do some outstanding "pact with evil" style character writing to put this ep up there with the best of 'em! (Where was all this imagination on "Career Day"?) _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 07:19:37 -0800 Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? >>>Does this missile homing on Feral ? if the SwatKats can make that maybe >>>they should make the "Turner" missile ? :-) >>> >>>Anyone want to push the button ? :-) >> >>Heh. The line forms outside... > >Hmmm...,I wonder if "Jake and Chance garage" willing make a special missile >that will homing on somebody, I got some special order if they willing to >do it. :-) Yeah, I could break out the Vice-grips and hammer together some more stuff for Razor (seeing as how he seems somewhat accident prone lately), maybe along the lines of: "Hanoi-seeking Missile": Left over from Vietnam, this missile was discarded by the Military because it kept homing in on Jane Fonda's workout bag. Must've been the towels she purr-loined from the Hanoi Hilton. (Kids, ask your parents - this one's *really* obscure!) "Moustache Clipper Missile": First used by Rocky and Bullwinkle against other moustachioed villainry from the past, this one is triggered by seeing Ted's Freudean tic of fondling his moustache on nationwide TV. Unfortunately, the arsenal seems to be comprised mainly of duds because though many have been triggered, none have gone off. Razor's put these things out to pasture in favour of something captured from Dark Kat: "The Clue-tron Bomb": This one is actually a "smart bomb" a la "Gulf War", and has been re-wired by Razor to smote truly-clueless individuals while leaving the buildings, paints, and Animation facilities intact. The guidance system is a thing of beauty: basically, it seeks out and crystallizes all those who diverted resources and cash away from MegaKat City and devoted them to things like "Iggy", "Yukky Duck" and "The Pagemaster", while leaving the Kats production team unscathed. T-Bone tried to convince Razor to include those responsible for "Captain Planet", but our Weaps-Kat figured that they were already condemned to an eternity in The Really Hot Place for that show anyway, so he took pity. Razor and T-Bone have some considerable modifications to perform in order for the TurboKat to carry such a payload, as a weapon that must reach Hollywood, New York *and* Atlanta ain't exactly light. (Thanks for the indulgence. S. daS left me in a rather impish mood, and here's the result). _____________________________________________________________ From erudnick@pica.army.mil Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: Ed Rudnicki Date: Mon, 11 Dec 95 10:55:14 EST Subject: Re: Fanfic! >I wouldn't mind having a binary in a mailing list. I like to read those >stories. If you can't upload it to rat, please e-mail me a copy. Thanx. I don't know if the Kats list is big enough, but the Ranger-List has three different sub-lists: digest, for the lurkers; the "regular" list; and "ranger-maniacs", for the die-hard fans, which is the only list that fanfic and binaries are sent to. Subscription to any and all is optional; that is, someone who does not wish to get the binaries and fanfic subscribes only to the "regular" list. Perhaps something to think about. I was amused by objections to a file of 92k :) :) But on a serious note I know some folks have memory space restrictions, and understand completely. Ed From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:04:45 +0700 Subject: Re: SK IQ on TCN >>I've never seen it either, and I've been watching since they were first >>showing SWAT Kats. (Dogust) >> >>Peace! (This does not apply to things done to Ted Turner, Time Warner, >>Turnerco, Purple Dinosaurs, etc.) > >I don't think you're going to see it on the TCN roster anytime soon. If >people want this >episode to air, I can't think of a better place to voice your thoughts >than "toonnet@aol.com". >Don't forget to wish them "Merry Katsmas". Does "toonnet@aol.com" also applied worldwide ? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 22:52:38 +0700 Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? >On Sun, 10 Dec 1995 CNbL@aol.com wrote: > >> >>There's also: >> >>Megavolt missle (The Giant Bacteria) >> >> >Are this is the same missle that T-Bone use to destroy Dark Kat force >> field? >> > No. T-Bone used a SCRAMBLER missle. The megavolt missile has a shield >which breaks off and little electric sparks fly around it. (to make it >look charged with electricity) The Scrambler missile shows no signs of >containing 1,000,000 megavolts when fired, but when it hits, you better >be ready. Also the megavolt missile has only 1 megavolt, and the scrambler >has 1,000,000 megavolts. I saw 1,000,000 megavolts in Razor display, where did you know that it was charged 1,000,000 megavolts ? >Big difference in electrical power here. Are "Scrambler" missile is a new much improved "Megavolt" missile ? (I didn't saw "The Giant Bacteria" before, I really want to watch the garage meeting that was mentioned in Animato :-) ) From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 15:30:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? Thanks for that DK & SK idea. I might start a fanfic! A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 08:55:54 +0700 Subject: Re: Fanfic! >>>On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > >>Ok ! since this thread is about fanfic, so let's talk about fanfic story, >>there's some fanfic story that are still in writing like Courtney's "Razor >>Nemesis" (The writing is done, but the typing ain't done yet), my "Trouble >>in NeoKat city", Karen's high seas adventure story, and I assume that there >>is many stories that will be written SwatKats fans. >> >>Anybody want to add to this fanfic story list ? > >Mark Lungo, the author of the "Animato!" thing, is working on one >intermittently that has >"Bright and Shiny Future"'s Evil Callie as a main character. Aren't the Callie in "A Bright and Shiny Future" is the same Callie from the present MegaKat city ? (An older Callie of course :-) ) >I've been trying to find time for >one that tentatively has TB & R in the awkward position of having to clear >Feral from >trumped up charges, and that introduces a fellow classmate from Enforcer >Academy days >who has *always* known who the Swatkats really are. It seems that that a lot of Enforcer character that people will are going to write. Simon Leet with his "Felix Decker", me with "Jace Feral", and you with this character, are anybody else also want to add this list of new Enforcer fanfic character ? >I'll leave the backstory for this >new character pretty cloudy, and if I were a writer for the series, I'd >only intend that this >guy be _seen_ in key spots in certain episodes, but rarely given any role >to speak of aside >from the odd phone call or clandestine meeting (kind of like "Ice Pick" on >the "X-Files"). Maybe during the Christmas Break I can actually put pen >to paper. Let the story writing begin ! :-) From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 20:10:52 -0800 Subject: Re: SK IQ on TCN >Does "toonnet@aol.com" also applied worldwide ? Most *definitely*! Turner is looking for feedback from TCN in international markets, so if I were you I'd make sure they knew *where* I was from within the first two lines, and go on from there. _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 20:10:49 -0800 Subject: Re: Christian's Kats Contest results...(say _that_ three times fast!) >Is it possible to post a list of the 40 names he received. I'm curious if my postcard arrived? > >Mitch I can ask if he received yours, but I think it would be a little tacky (?) to post all of 'em personally. BTW, we're getting the final three scripts for the Katseps upon Christian's return from Montreal after the Holidays. Typing them in will be a bit of a bitch - I still haven't completed "Animato!". Maybe Santa will slip me OCR. _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 20:10:38 -0800 Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? > >On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > >> >>>There's also: >> >>>Megavolt missile (The Giant Bacteria) >> > >> >>Are this is the same missile that T-Bone use to destroy Dark Kat force >> >field? >> > > >I believe there was a scrambler missle somewhere too, think it was used >against Hard Drive in the tank in "Metal Urgency" ... Can anyone refresh >me memory as to how they're different? "Scrambler" missile creates a high-power Radio-Frequency field to disrupt the operation of computer/radio devices such as navigation systems, weapons guidance, radar and so on. "MegaVolt" missile simply electrocutes stuff. Anyone recall what the name of the missile was that was used to capture Hard Drive in an insulated environment? (I think Razor used "Pincer" missiles to clip the Hydro wires in the scene immediately previous). _____________________________________________________________ From lsetnor@got.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: lsetnor@got.net (Leslie Setnor) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 22:38:01 -0800 Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? >>>Does this missile homing on Feral ? if the SwatKats can make that maybe >>>they should make the "Turner" missile ? :-) >>> >>>Anyone want to push the button ? :-) >> >>Heh. The line forms outside... Take a number and get in line. Hey, I just got the PERFECT idea for a "DOOM" patch!! :-) >Hmmm...,I wonder if "Jake and Chance garage" willing make a special missile >that will homing on somebody, I got some special order if they willing to >do it. :-) I'd order about 50. BTW, somebody asked which "Purple Dinosaur" I was referring to. It was Barney. Karen Setnor From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 18:28:55 +0700 Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? >> >>On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: >> >>> >>>There's also: >>> >>>Megavolt missile (The Giant Bacteria) >>> > >>> >>Are this is the same missile that T-Bone use to destroy Dark Kat force >>> >field? >>> > >> >>I believe there was a scrambler missle somewhere too, think it was used >>against Hard Drive in the tank in "Metal Urgency" ... Can anyone refresh >>me memory as to how they're different? > >"Scrambler" missile creates a high-power Radio-Frequency field to disrupt >the operation >of computer/radio devices such as navigation systems, weapons guidance, >radar and so on. Yes, but is this missile can destroy force field too ? >"MegaVolt" missile simply electrocutes stuff. I shocked at the result. :-) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 18:28:57 +0700 Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? >>>>Does this missile homing on Feral ? if the SwatKats can make that maybe >>>>they should make the "Turner" missile ? :-) >>>> >>>>Anyone want to push the button ? :-) >>> >>>Heh. The line forms outside... > >Take a number and get in line. Yes Sir (or is it Mam ? :-) ) ! >Hey, I just got the PERFECT idea for a "DOOM" patch!! :-) Just send it to rat.org when you finaly finished it, I'm sure that someone will be happy to use it. :-) (Oh yeah ! you just inspired me to do some fooling around with "Marathon" physics model too) >>Hmmm...,I wonder if "Jake and Chance garage" willing make a special missile >>that will homing on somebody, I got some special order if they willing to >>do it. :-) > >I'd order about 50. I'm only order 1, but there is 20 million people that has the same order as me. :-) >BTW, somebody asked which "Purple Dinosaur" I was referring to. It was > Barney. And not Dino from "Flinstones", poor Dino, how did he get in this mess anyway ? >Karen Setnor Ok, does anybody here want to add to this list of special missile that home in on somebody ? I just hope that somebody aren't already built one that is built especialy for me. :-) From leetwail@iscs.nus.sg Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: Leet Wai Leong Simon Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 20:24:40 +0800 (GMT-8) Subject: Re: Fanfic! On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > >I've been trying to find time for > >one that tentatively has TB & R in the awkward position of having to clear > >Feral from > >trumped up charges, and that introduces a fellow classmate from Enforcer > >Academy days > >who has *always* known who the Swatkats really are. Hmm sounds similar to what I've got planned ... guess Edo was right :) Too many Enforcer stories going around ... - Simon Leet (Aka Felix Decker on FurToonia) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 19:34:19 +0700 Subject: Re: SK IQ on TCN >>Does "toonnet@aol.com" also applied worldwide ? > >Most *definitely*! Turner is looking for feedback from TCN in >international markets, so >if I were you I'd make sure they knew *where* I was from within the first >two lines, and >go on from there. Ok, does anybody here want to give some pointers on how to write a letter to TCN ? From ben@gunk.demon.co.uk Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: Ben Carter Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 21:45:38 GMT Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? In message you wrote: > I believe there was a scrambler missle somewhere too, think it was used > against Hard Drive in the tank in "Metal Urgency" ... Can anyone refresh > me memory as to how they're different? I think a scrambler missile, as the name suggests, just scrambles all the electrical equipment (I think all of the controls in the tank went crazy, and Hard Drive had to pull off the neurohelmet thing), but it doesn't directly destroy anything - a megavolt missile frys it! -- Ben Carter +-------------------------------+ /---\ |Formerly c.carter@ulst.ac.uk...| ( . . )<- A Merp. Don't ask. |... now ben@gunk.demon.co.uk! | ( - ) (but buy the game anyway!) +-------------------------------+ \---/ From razor@netcom.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 19:48:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Yet More Kat Stuff... Eef! I don't check mail for a few days (computer was in the shop to fix a broken floppy drive -- but that's another story) and I find something like 120 or so messages in email, most of it Kats listmail. (Hey, I'm not complaining at the success of the list so far!) Here's a comment on some recent listmail. More to follow. On Razor (almost) always getting trashed: if you compare T-Bone and Razor by their appearances alone, T-Bone is obviously bulkier and taller than Razor. From that, it's probably a safe guess that T-Bone can endure a lot more physical abuse than Razor (or at least he *appears* that way). Yet Razor's no slouch, either. He's very agile (in "Destructive Nature", for example) and has endured near-direct hits ("Volcanus Erupts!"), but because he's smaller and thinner he'd be a better target for physical abuse than T-Bone would. In fact, I've been considering a fanfic premise where Razor gets injured and loses his memory. It's up to T-Bone to refresh it, which means he has to relate everything from their days as Enforcer comrades to their SWAT Kat days. (Keep in mind that this comes from someone who plays Razor on the MUCKS! ;-) -- ================ Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================ From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 20:26:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? How do you make a DOOM wad? I'm thinking of making a SWAT Kats one. Where can i get a doom version that will work with patches? I know that version something or later won't let you use patches until you register. A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From CNbL@aol.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: CNbL@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 22:31:36 -0500 Subject: Re: How many missiles does the SWAT Kats have? >Anyone recall what the name of the missle was that was used to capture Hard Drive >in >an insulated enviornment? (I think Razor used "Pincer" missles to clip the Hydro >wires >in the scene immediately previous). First they tried the Turboblades.Then, I believe, they used the Wire-Clipper missles. From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 21:49:29 -0800 Subject: Re: Fanfic! > >On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: (My stuff snipped to head off an Andy vs. Chance copyright suit...) >Hmm sounds similar to what I've got planned ... guess Edo was right :) >Too many Enforcer stories going around ... Well, it's a free country after all, so if you've got the same idea (and more spare time than I do), feel free to fanfic away. *I* certainly won't hold it against you (or anyone else for that matter). We aren't the only people who realize that the Enforcers play a big role in the Kat world - Lance Falk had envisioned a whole line of toys based on the Enforcers and their vehicles. What would "Kats be without the Enforcers?(and the occasional Feral-chopper ground loop!) _____________________________________________________________ From wntrmute@tribeca.ios.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: wntrmute@tribeca.ios.com (August Yang) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 00:51:10 -0500 Subject: Oh! What a tangled thread we weave... When first we practice not reading e-mail for a few months... Br) Commenting on *real* old stuff here so bear with me... WKOZIOL> You are forgetting one thing about WB and that is they do an WKOZIOL> incredible job with Batman the animated series. Well, the censors at WB tend to be a little more conservitive than I would like SWAT Kats to be exposed to. They would have never allowed the Doctor from "Ci-Kat-a" to fall to his doom without showing where he fell and that he was okay. Another scene that I'm sure WB would have poo-pooed on was the scene where the crystalized warden shattered in "Chaos in Crystal". Interestingly enough, Disney had no qualms about showing similar scenes in its Gargoyles series. Re: Can the Turbokat Swim? I should hope so, since lots of people from Hong Kong use it to get to Maccau. I'm serious! Over in Hong Kong (I was there during September), there are ships known as Turbocats that ferry people from Hong Kong to Maccau and back. I wanted to take a ride on the Turbocat, but I didn't have enough time during my vacation. Re: What are people willing to live with in terms of more SK? Well, lower quality animation I can live with as long as the scripts stay consistant with previous quality. Gargoyles has had some truly hideous animation, but I still enjoy the series since it's written quite well. Besides, Huang-Ho did an okay job before Mook took over. BTW, speaking of Mook, if you need a Mook animation fix and have cable. MTV's Aeon Flux is animated by Mook. Cool series, but bizzare. Edo> they could make an episode that put the Kat guys in a VR world If they got SGI to do the graphics this would be really cool. And Hard Drive springing a trap on them in this Virtual World is a wonderful idea. Another fanfic idea here, folx! chance>Imagine my surprise to hear that the freelance writer responsible, chance>Mark Saraceni, copied the same plot elements verbatim onto an episode chance>of "Biker Mice from Mars" Which episode is this? I'm kinda interested since I really enjoyed "Razor's Edge", but unforetunately, this sort of plot is as old as time itself. I remember seeing it on "Spiderman and his Amazing Friends" every two weeks. Br) Still, in "Razor's Edge" it was good to see Razor get better not by simply "snapping out of it", but by finding out it was a set-up. Terra> are [the missles] voice-activated or something like that? I'm really into anime and this, I thought, was an anime convention brought over into US. In anime, they are constantly shouting what kind of attacks or movements they're making to anyone who is willing to listen. Br) Also, it help T-Bone and Razor co-ordinate what they are doing. Edo>Anybody want to add to this fanfic story list? Add my name. I've got "The Golden Child" I'm currently working on, which is about another one of the Pastmaster's kind paying a visit to Megakat city. I also have on the back burner several other stories that I'd like to work on, if only I had the time. Too bad I need to eat, sleep, and play video games. Br) (And work, mustn't forget that I need to work... Br) August Paul Yang has tried Griblizt and finds he likes it. wntrmute@tribeca.ios.com (.sig under transfer.) From razor@netcom.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 04:29:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Yet Even More Kat Stuff Is it later now? In any event, here's even more Kat stuff: At 8:12 PM 12/7/95, chance wrote: >>The Cartoon Network here hasn't show me any secret files yet. :-( > >Yeah. Unfortunately, the Cartoon Network seems to have been deleting the >"Secret Files" interstitials and replacing them with those obnoxious "We Are >Cartoons" things. The Cartoon Network doesn't even do that. The Secret Files information has been taken out altogether from the episodes that had them (see my comment below). Interestingly enough, the Secret Files were shown only during the first season and for the first two episodes of the second seasons' episodes ("Mutation City," which had a file on Doctor Viper, and "A Bright And Shiny Future," which had a file on The Pastmaster). After that, the Secret Files were replaced with the "We Are Cartoons" bit. Lieutenant Steel(e): did we ever get an official word as to how the Lieutenant's name should be spelled? (If not, I think you're slipping in your duties, Andy! ;-) If so, this definitely sounds like something for the FAQ. Would he be Razor's *older* or *younger* brother? He seems to act far too spoiled, surly and power-hungry to be an older brother. (Of course, that's not saying that it *isn't* possible, either!) -- ================ Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================ From razor@netcom.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 04:44:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: Your Jet (fwd) Talk about being behind in mail -- I got this in the mail some time ago and don't really have a good idea as to how to respond. Can anyone give me some suggestions here? >Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 20:43:56 -0600 >From: Gary Kimbrell >Organization: Navy >Mime-Version: 1.0 >To: razor@rat.org >Cc: kimbrel@ConnectI.com >Subject: Your Jet >X-Url: http://rat.org/razor/ > >How did you come up with a neat jet?What kind of jet is >it?F-14..F-15..F-18???Could you write me back and tell me what kind >of jet it is?Please > > > Thanks!!!!!!!!! -- ================ Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 20:46:13 +0700 Subject: Feral drawings on "A bright and shiny future" Is it just me or Feral look cute (Funny) in "A bright and shiny future" ?? Does anybody want to add to this comment ? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 20:46:08 +0700 Subject: Re: Fanfic! >On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > >> >I've been trying to find time for >> >one that tentatively has TB & R in the awkward position of having to clear >> >Feral from >> >trumped up charges, and that introduces a fellow classmate from Enforcer >> >Academy days >> >who has *always* known who the Swatkats really are. > >Hmm sounds similar to what I've got planned ... guess Edo was right :) >Too many Enforcer stories going around ... My fanfic Enforcer character are going to be Steel old academy friends. (Well, he has to at least has some friend from the academy days :-) ) >- Simon Leet (Aka Felix Decker on FurToonia) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 20:46:23 +0700 Subject: Re: Yet Even More Kat Stuff >Is it later now? In any event, here's even more Kat stuff: > >Lieutenant Steel(e): did we ever get an official word as to how the >Lieutenant's name should be spelled? (If not, I think you're slipping in >your duties, Andy! ;-) If so, this definitely sounds like something for >the FAQ. Yes, all of these character names should have been put in the SwatKats FAQ (BTW Dana, the reason I ask you for the FAQ, is because I want to know Callie real name) >Would he be Razor's *older* or *younger* brother? He seems to >act far too spoiled, surly and power-hungry to be an older brother. (Of >course, that's not saying that it *isn't* possible, either!) Could be, does Razor and Steel ever meet in the TV series ? >-- >================ Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 20:46:19 +0700 Subject: Re: Fanfic! On Wed, 13 Dec 1995, Chance wrote: >(My stuff snipped to head off an Andy vs. Chance copyright suit...) > >On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Simon Leet wrote: > >>Hmm sounds similar to what I've got planned ... guess Edo was right :) >>Too many Enforcer stories going around ... > >Well, it's a free country after all, And this is a free Universe too. :-) >so if you've got the same idea (and more spare time than I do), feel free >to fanfic away. OK ! :-) >*I* certainly won't hold it against you (or anyone else for that matter). >We aren't the only people who realize that the Enforcers play a >big role in the Kat world - Lance Falk had envisioned a whole line of toys >based on the >Enforcers and their vehicles. The Enforcer have a lot big influnced on the Kat world, from the beginning to the present. >What would "Kats be without the Enforcers?(and the occasional >Feral-chopper ground loop!) I don't know the answer, does anybody here want to answer it for me ? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 20:46:15 +0700 Subject: Re: Oh! What a tangled thread we weave... >When first we practice not reading e-mail for a few months... Br) > >Commenting on *real* old stuff here so bear with me... > >Re: Can the Turbokat Swim? >I should hope so, since lots of people from Hong Kong use it to get to Maccau. >I'm serious! Over in Hong Kong (I was there during September), there are ships >known as Turbocats that ferry people from Hong Kong to Maccau and back. I >wanted to take a ride on the Turbocat, but I didn't have enough time during my >vacation. He...He...He..., art imitates life. :-) (BTW, how is the Turbocat look like ?) >Re: What are people willing to live with in terms of more SK? >Well, lower quality animation I can live with as long as the scripts stay >consistant with previous quality. Gargoyles has had some truly hideous >animation,but I still enjoy the series since it's written quite well. >Besides, Huang-Ho did an okay job before Mook took over. Better cartoons through great scripts. >Edo> they could make an episode that put the Kat guys in a VR world >If they got SGI to do the graphics this would be really cool. And Hard Drive >springing a trap on them in this Virtual World is a wonderful idea. Another >fanfic idea here, folx! Now this is a really cool idea, putting a computer graphics in in a cartoon, they could cut drawing time for drawing vehicles, instead of having a animated TurboKat they could make it a fully rendered TurboKat flying over MegaKat city. (I actualy have an idea of making a rendered TurboKat and send it to rat.org, unfortunately my knowledge on 3D is still in it's lowest form :-( ) >chance>Imagine my surprise to hear that the freelance writer responsible, >chance>Mark Saraceni, copied the same plot elements verbatim onto an episode >chance>of "Biker Mice from Mars" >Which episode is this? I'm kinda interested since I really enjoyed "Razor's >Edge", but unfortunately, this sort of plot is as old as time itself. Yes, the plot is a classic, I know every hero that has the same feelings as Razor. >Br) Still, in "Razor's Edge" it was good to see Razor get better not by simply >"snapping out of it", but by finding out it was a set-up. Yes, it was a good thing to make it as a set-up instead of a snap out. :-) >Terra> are [the missles] voice-activated or something like that? >I'm really into anime and this, I thought, was an anime convention brought over >into US. In anime, they are constantly shouting what kind of attacks or >movements they're making to anyone who is willing to listen. NIce thing to have in a cartoon, although it will be noisy. :-) >Br) Also, it help T-Bone and Razor co-ordinate what they are doing. Pilots and Gunners has to do that if they are going to make something work. >Edo>Anybody want to add to this fanfic story list? >Add my name. I've got "The Golden Child" I'm currently working on, which is >about another one of the Pastmaster's kind paying a visit to Megakat city. What this guy is up to in your story ? >August Paul Yang has tried Griblizt and finds he likes it. >wntrmute@tribeca.ios.com >(.sig under transfer.) From flogistn@netaxs.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 09:24:19 -0500 Subject: Re: Feral drawings on "A bright and shiny future" -Is it just me or Feral look cute (Funny) in "A bright and shiny future" ?? He's OLD! Old and bald and fat! It'll happen to you too someday, so don't laugh. ;) I think they did a very good job of aging the various characters. Feral going bald, Callie getting wrinkled, Manx senile and in denial... -------- Samuel Conway, Ph.D. Senior Fat Old Bald Chemist Avid Therapeutics Philadelphia, PA flogistn@netaxs.com From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 07:06:12 -0800 Subject: Re: Oh! What a tangled thread we weave... >Re: Can the Turbokat Swim? >I should hope so, since lots of people from Hong Kong use it to get to Maccau. >I'm serious! Over in Hong Kong (I was there during September), there are ships >known as Turbocats that ferry people from Hong Kong to Maccau and back. I >wanted >to take a ride on the Turbocat, but I didn't have enough time during my >vacation. This is really cool. In the words of another cartoon cat - 'Hmmm....I was not aware..." >chance>Imagine my surprise to hear that the freelance writer responsible, >chance>Mark Saraceni, copied the same plot elements verbatim onto an episode >chance>of "Biker Mice from Mars" >Which episode is this? I'm kinda interested since I really enjoyed "Razor's >Edge", I just ran through all my notes, and though I *did* write it down at one point, I think the dust-bunnies ate it. I'll try find out. >Terra> are [the missles] voice-activated or something like that? >I'm really into anime and this, I thought, was an anime convention brought over >into US. In anime, they are constantly shouting what kind of attacks or >movements >they're making to anyone who is willing to listen. Oh God, why do I suddenly get the mental picture of Razor saying "Flare Up Now!"? _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 07:17:56 -0800 Subject: Re: Feral drawings on "A bright and shiny future" >Is it just me or Feral look cute (Funny) in "A bright and shiny future" ?? > >Does anybody want to add to this comment ? Without being able to hide behind a stiffly starched uniform and all the trappings that go with the kind of "respect-on-demand" nature of the Enforcer position, he was actually a lot less anal-retentive. In fact, he even smiled for the first time ever when he was in Razor's TurboKat seat, and didn't demand to be the center of attention in the swamp as he usually does in every other situation (ever notice how he either snatches Ann Gora's mike, or leans in to the camera to ensure that your attention is focussed utterly?). He *did* look rather silly with the prominent moustache though! _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 07:22:36 -0800 Subject: Re: Your Jet (fwd) >Talk about being behind in mail -- I got this in the mail some time ago and >don't really have a good idea as to how to respond. Can anyone give me >some suggestions here? > > >>Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 20:43:56 -0600 >>From: Gary Kimbrell >>Organization: Navy >>Mime-Version: 1.0 >>To: razor@rat.org >>Cc: kimbrel@ConnectI.com >>Subject: Your Jet >>X-Url: http://rat.org/razor/ >> >>How did you come up with a neat jet?What kind of jet is >>it?F-14..F-15..F-18???Could you write me back and tell me what kind >>of jet it is?Please Man, I thought *I* got weird mail. The Turbokat is basically an F-14 Tomcat with an AV-8A Harrier identity crisis. The fuselage is all "14", but the VTOL elements are Harrier all the way. For "Top Gun" aficianados, the F-14 is Maverick's plane. _____________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 07:35:19 -0800 Subject: Re: Yet Even More Kat Stuff >>Lieutenant Steel(e): did we ever get an official word as to how the >>Lieutenant's name should be spelled? (If not, I think you're slipping in >>your duties, Andy! ;-) If so, this definitely sounds like something for >>the FAQ. Jim Stenstrum was a member of the SwatKats design team along with Lance Falk and the Tremblay Bros., and in his episode "Wrath of Dark Kat", he writes a line of dialogue for the Lieutenant that goes: "...'Steel'; that's with two 'e's..." I suspect somebody in storyboards fouled up by absent-mindedly using the more common "Steele" spelling, and the overseas outfit didn't know any better either. 'Course, Megakat City could be getting their nameplates done by the Siamese Kats, who knows? (Seriously, Stenstrum is now at Warners, but I'll ask someone to put the question to Falk). >Yes, all of these character names should have been put in the SwatKats FAQ >(BTW Dana, the reason I ask you for the FAQ, is because I want to know >Callie real name) No mystery there; "Calico Briggs". She says so herself on a few occasions, and that's how it's spelled in the product literature - as in "Calico Cat". I guess you had to be there. >Could be, does Razor and Steel ever meet in the TV series ? Of *course* they meet (unless it's one of the ones you haven't gotten in the Kingdom of "Id"). Wait for "Wrath of Dark Kat" to show up - it's the ep where you get to see the Kat guys origins, and their reasons for hating Feral explained. _____________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 23:46:53 +0700 Subject: Re: Your Jet (fwd) >>Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 20:43:56 -0600 >>From: Gary Kimbrell >>Organization: Navy >>Mime-Version: 1.0 >>To: razor@rat.org >>Cc: kimbrel@ConnectI.com >>Subject: Your Jet >>X-Url: http://rat.org/razor/ >> >>How did you come up with a neat jet?What kind of jet is >>it?F-14..F-15..F-18???Could you write me back and tell me what kind >>of jet it is?Please >> >> >> Thanks!!!!!!!!! > >Talk about being behind in mail -- I got this in the mail some time ago and >don't really have a good idea as to how to respond. Can anyone give me >some suggestions here? Does the guy that sending you that mail mean the TurboKat Dana ? >-- >================ Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================ The TurboKat I think is a combination of a F-14, F-15, and F-18 Ok, let's make some comparison between these jets and the TurboKat. Characteristic that has taken from the F-14: 1. F-14 swing wing technology 2. Two rudders 3. F-14 jet intake Characteristic taken from the F-15 1. Two rudders 2. F-15 big body Characteristic taken from the F-18 1. Two rudders 2. F-18 longs wing when on subsonic flight. Does anybody want to add the comparison list ? Of course nobody would dare to use the TurboKat VTOL technique, it just too a Radical concept to use, and only Razor know how the TurboKat VTOL mode really works. Oh yeah, I think I was once play an arcade game that one of their plane uses the same technique for VTOL as the TurboKat, forget the game name, but I know that there's a lot of planes on that game and dog fighting is the object of the game . From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 16:37:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Yet Even More Kat Stuff Also look for "Enter the MadKat" for the SWAT Kats meeting steel face to face. (And even get thrown on top of him by MadKat.) A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 16:29:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Fanfic! I'm working on "Return of the Red Lynx". It's a takeoff from chance's idea, where they repair the blue manx and it's possessed and dark kats needs to work with the SWAT Kats to stop it. "This is only a temorary alliance!" is what you'll see in part of my story... I can come up with stories pretty well, but I need an idea to start. Thanx, chance! Also, anyone have a better title? A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:14 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 16:35:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Your Jet (fwd) Ok, here's how you do it razor: In a very old letter, it said that the TurboKat was planned to be an F-14 design in the first place, with flaps on the wings and such, but with a little modifications. Here's a suggestion on how to write it: Dear (Place his name here), The TurboKat is similar to an F-14, but has a lot of extra features. Like 3 engines instead of two, retractable wings, and a BUNCH OF NEAT CARGO! Fell free to modify this in any way. A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From kaychang@eden.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 16:19:45 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Oh! What a tangled thread we weave... >Oh God, why do I suddenly get the mental picture of Razor saying "Flare Up Now!"? Oooooh. Scaaarrry. :) Terra Chang Swat Kats fan, writer, nice person, totally crazy. From kaychang@eden.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 16:22:31 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Fanfic! >I'm working on "Return of the Red Lynx". It's a takeoff from chance's >idea, where they repair the blue manx and it's possessed and dark kats >needs to work with the SWAT Kats to stop it. "This is only a temorary >alliance!" is what you'll see in part of my story... > > I can come up with stories pretty well, but I need an idea to >start. Thanx, chance! Also, anyone have a better title? I can ask Courtney, (but she'll probably say something too weird to understand) how about "Shadows of the Past"? or something like that? Terra Chang Swat Kats fan, writer, nice person, totally crazy. From ben@gunk.demon.co.uk Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: Ben Carter Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 19:52:35 GMT Subject: Re: Oh! What a tangled thread we weave... In message you wrote: [Other stuff snipped] > >Edo> they could make an episode that put the Kat guys in a VR world > >If they got SGI to do the graphics this would be really cool. And Hard Drive > >springing a trap on them in this Virtual World is a wonderful idea. Another > >fanfic idea here, folx! > > Now this is a really cool idea, putting a computer graphics in in a > cartoon, they could cut drawing time for drawing vehicles, instead of > having a animated TurboKat they could make it a fully rendered TurboKat > flying over MegaKat city. > (I actualy have an idea of making a rendered TurboKat and send it to > rat.org, unfortunately my knowledge on 3D is still in it's lowest form :-( > ) > Well - It might be OK if done very well, but IMHO mixing animation and rendered 3D is unlikely to work, especially in situations where you actually have to show Razor and T-Bone in the cockpit of the TurboKat. The only way I think it could be done to look natural would be if it was done like the stampede scene in The Lion King - where the computer graphics were deliberately designed to look like they were drawn. Could be interesting to do a 3D Turbokat as a project though - I might try when I get a free moment... -- Ben Carter +-------------------------------+ /---\ |Formerly c.carter@ulst.ac.uk...| ( . . )<- A Merp. Don't ask. |... now ben@gunk.demon.co.uk! | ( - ) (but buy the game anyway!) +-------------------------------+ \---/ From razor@netcom.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 19:34:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: [none] For lack of a creative subject line, I'm omitting one from this post. ;-) Thanks everyone who suggested how to reply to the person who sent me the emails about the jet. I haven't had time to reply, but I plan on getting one out in the next couple of days or so! Guidelines for list submissions: how about, say, no larger than about 6K for a listmail submission? Anything substantially larger (like 92K) goes directly to the FTP site. (This, btw, is a variant of something we've done on the Disney TV Animation Mailing List and it's worked out nicely as far as I can tell.) On to a few listmail comments and replies: August writes: > Well, the censors at WB tend to be a little more conservitive than I would > like SWAT Kats to be exposed to. They would have never allowed the Doctor > from "Ci-Kat-a" to fall to his doom without showing where he fell and that he > was okay. Another scene that I'm sure WB would have poo-pooed on was the > scene where the crystalized warden shattered in "Chaos in Crystal". Unfortunately, scenes like these were the ultimate demise of the SWAT Kats. According to the FAQ (which I should probably update and repost), the Kats were cancelled because "Turner found the series suddenly violent" and not because of the lack of merchandising, which is the reason that Turner had given for canning the series. Another scene I liked which I'm a little surprised got by the censors: T-Bone throwing Ann Gora off a cliff to get rid of a mutated scorpion, then flying down and picking her up before she hit the lava below (cf. "Caverns of Horror"). Very nicely done, although this is something I'd NEVER have expected to see in "sanitized-for-your-protection" American animation. > Still, in "Razor's Edge" it was good to see Razor get better not by simply > "snapping out of it", but by finding out it was a set-up. Snapping out of it would have been one thing. Gradually regaining his confidence (like in a similar-themed "Tale Spin" episode) is another. But I agree that something like this, tho somewhat contrived, is rather well-done. > Besides, Huang-Ho did an okay job before Mook took over. Hanho Heung-Up did several episodes of "Tale Spin" and "Darkwing Duck" before doing its work on the Kats. I wouldn't brush this studio off too readily, although its work does pale by comparison to Mook's second-season work. chance sez: > No mystery there; "Calico Briggs". She says so herself on a few occasions, > and that's how it's spelled in the product literature - as in "Calico Cat". > I guess you had to be there. That spelled with one or two 'l's? Seriously, though, Callie's name is spelled as such in the placard on her desk and in the end credits (second-season episodes). The first time she mentions her full name is, I believe, in the episode "The Metallikats," when she introduces herself to the Metallikats as "Callico Briggs! I'm the one who turned down your paroles, bribes and all!" >>Could be, does Razor and Steel ever meet in the TV series ? > > Of *course* they meet (unless it's one of the ones you haven't gotten in the > Kingdom of "Id"). Wait for "Wrath of Dark Kat" to show up - it's the ep > where you get to see the Kat guys origins, and their reasons for hating Feral > explained. They've also met in "Enter the Madkat," when both T-Bone and Razor enter the commander's office to protect the Deputy Mayor (Callie being the "Queen" in Ringtail's/Madkat's revenge). However, as far as I can tell Razor and the Lieutenant haven't talked to each other directly, as in one-on-one. Whenever Razor's met with the Lieutenant, either T-Bone or Callie (or Commander Feral, even!) have been around. -- ================ Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 08:52:51 +0700 Subject: Re: Your Jet (fwd) >Ok, here's how you do it razor: > >In a very old letter, it said that the TurboKat was planned to be an F-14 >design in the first place, with flaps on the wings and such, but with a >little modifications. Here's a suggestion on how to write it: > >Dear (Place his name here), > > The TurboKat is similar to an F-14, but has a lot of extra >features. Like 3 engines instead of two, retractable wings, and a BUNCH >OF NEAT CARGO! What is this retractable wings ? aren't F-14 using swing wing technology ? Oh yeah, don't forget to mention those moveable air intake, aimable middle jet, and a VTOL flight that no other plane has use before. >Fell free to modify this in any way. Does anybody want to add they comments to this VTOL thing ? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 08:52:49 +0700 Subject: Re: Fanfic! >>I'm working on "Return of the Red Lynx". It's a takeoff from chance's >>idea, where they repair the blue manx and it's possessed and dark kats >>needs to work with the SWAT Kats to stop it. "This is only a temorary >>alliance!" is what you'll see in part of my story... >> >> I can come up with stories pretty well, but I need an idea to >>start. Thanx, chance! Also, anyone have a better title? > >I can ask Courtney, (but she'll probably say something too weird to >understand) how about "Shadows of the Past"? or something like that? How about "The Shadow of the Lynx" ? or "A blast from the Past" ? >Terra Chang Agree, that is the real name. >Swat Kats fan, Agree. >writer, Agree, writer of "Day and Night" >nice person, Agree. >totally crazy. Don't know about that, I have to ask your shrink first. :-) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 08:52:42 +0700 Subject: Re: Your Jet (fwd) >>Talk about being behind in mail -- I got this in the mail some time ago and >>don't really have a good idea as to how to respond. Can anyone give me >>some suggestions here? >> >> >>>Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 20:43:56 -0600 >>>From: Gary Kimbrell >>>Organization: Navy >>>Mime-Version: 1.0 >>>To: razor@rat.org >>>Cc: kimbrel@ConnectI.com >>>Subject: Your Jet >>>X-Url: http://rat.org/razor/ >>> >>>How did you come up with a neat jet?What kind of jet is >>>it?F-14..F-15..F-18???Could you write me back and tell me what kind >>>of jet it is?Please > >Man, I thought *I* got weird mail. The Turbokat is basically an F-14 >Tomcat with >an AV-8A Harrier identity crisis. The fuselage is all "14", but the VTOL >elements >are Harrier all the way. For "Top Gun" aficianados, the F-14 is >Maverick's plane. Aren't the harrier use a diverted engine thrust to gain VTOL flight ? I think the TurboKat uses a middle jet and two air intake to gain VTOL flight. Does anybody want to add to this VTOL flight teory ? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 08:54:15 +0700 Subject: Re: Yet Even More Kat Stuff >>>Lieutenant Steel(e): did we ever get an official word as to how the >>>Lieutenant's name should be spelled? (If not, I think you're slipping in >>>your duties, Andy! ;-) If so, this definitely sounds like something for >>>the FAQ. > >>Yes, all of these character names should have been put in the SwatKats FAQ >>(BTW Dana, the reason I ask you for the FAQ, is because I want to know >>Callie real name) > >No mystery there; "Calico Briggs". She says so herself on a few >occasions, and that's >how it's spelled in the product literature - as in "Calico Cat". I guess >you had to be there. Do you know what name that I called her the first time ? It was something like "Caleco Bridges" or something like that. (Oh yeah, how does she get two "l"s on her nickname ?) >>Could be, does Razor and Steel ever meet in the TV series ? > >Of *course* they meet (unless it's one of the ones you haven't gotten in >the Kingdom of "Id"). They already aired that episode months ago. >Wait for "Wrath of Dark Kat" to show up - it's the ep where you get to see >the Kat guys >origins, and their reasons for hating Feral explained. They never talk or have any interaction to each other in that episode, does this is what you mean by ignoring each other ? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 08:52:45 +0700 Subject: Re: Oh! What a tangled thread we weave... >In message you wrote: > >[Other stuff snipped] > >> >Edo> they could make an episode that put the Kat guys in a VR world >> >If they got SGI to do the graphics this would be really cool. And Hard >>Drive >> >springing a trap on them in this Virtual World is a wonderful idea. Another >> >fanfic idea here, folx! >> >> Now this is a really cool idea, putting a computer graphics in in a >> cartoon, they could cut drawing time for drawing vehicles, instead of >> having a animated TurboKat they could make it a fully rendered TurboKat >> flying over MegaKat city. >> (I actualy have an idea of making a rendered TurboKat and send it to >> rat.org, unfortunately my knowledge on 3D is still in it's lowest form :-( >> ) >> > > Well - It might be OK if done very well, but IMHO mixing animation and >rendered 3D is unlikely to work, >especially in situations where you >actually have to show Razor and T-Bone in the cockpit of the TurboKat. Use the regular animation while they are in the cockpit scene, and use the CGI animation while the TurboKat is on a flyby over (Not showing the inside of the cockpit ). >The only way I think it could be done to look natural would be if it was >done like the stampede scene in The Lion >King - where the computer >graphics were deliberately designed to look like they were drawn. > > Could be interesting to do a 3D Turbokat as a project though - I might >try when I get a free moment... Great :-), does anybody want to add to this 3D TurboKat project ? >-- > Ben Carter From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 09:19:34 +0700 Subject: Re: >For lack of a creative subject line, I'm omitting one from this post. ;-) > >Thanks everyone who suggested how to reply to the person who sent me the >emails about the jet. I haven't had time to reply, but I plan on getting >one out in the next couple of days or so! > >Guidelines for list submissions: how about, say, no larger than about 6K >for a listmail submission? Anything substantially larger (like 92K) goes >directly to the FTP site. (This, btw, is a variant of something we've done >on the Disney TV Animation Mailing List and it's worked out nicely as far >as I can tell.) > >On to a few listmail comments and replies: > >chance sez: >> No mystery there; "Calico Briggs". She says so herself on a few occasions, >> and that's how it's spelled in the product literature - as in "Calico Cat". >> I guess you had to be there. > >That spelled with one or two 'l's? Ok, which one is it ? Callico or Calico ? any confirmation on this ? this is the sorta thing that have to go to the FAQ. >Seriously, though, Callie's name is spelled as such in the placard on her >desk and in the end credits (second-season episodes). In which episode does her nameplate appear on the desk ? >The first time she >mentions her full name is, I believe, in the episode "The Metallikats," >when she introduces herself to the Metallikats as "Callico Briggs! I'm the >one who turned down your paroles, bribes and all!" Yes, "The Metalikats" is the episode that I hear her mention her full name, as matter a fact "The Metalikats" is the first SwatKats episode that I watch. >>>Could be, does Razor and Steel ever meet in the TV series ? >> >> Of *course* they meet (unless it's one of the ones you haven't gotten in the >> Kingdom of "Id"). Wait for "Wrath of Dark Kat" to show up - it's the ep >> where you get to see the Kat guys origins, and their reasons for hating Feral >> explained. > >However, as far as I can tell Razor and the Lieutenant haven't talked to >each other directly, as in one-on-one. Whenever Razor's met with the >Lieutenant, either T-Bone or Callie (or Commander Feral, even!) have been >around. Could be this no talking one-on-one is the pretending thing that Ratman mentioned ? >-- >================ Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================ From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 00:10:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Yet Even More Kat Stuff At 07:35 AM 12/13/95 -0800, you wrote: > >>>Lieutenant Steel(e): did we ever get an official word as to how the >>>Lieutenant's name should be spelled? (If not, I think you're slipping in >"...'Steel'; that's with two 'e's..." Hmm.. more discussion on this, eh? IMO, he says "Steele, that's with two e's" referring to the fact that there are 2 "e's" next to each other and it's not spelled "ea" as in "Steal". As for the trailing "e", well, you can see how it's spelled on his nameplate on the desk. Therefore, there have been no mixups between writing & animation. From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 00:09:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Yet Even More Kat Stuff At 07:35 AM 12/13/95 -0800, you wrote: > >>>Lieutenant Steel(e): did we ever get an official word as to how the >>>Lieutenant's name should be spelled? (If not, I think you're slipping in >"...'Steel'; that's with two 'e's..." Hmm.. more discussion on this, eh? IMO, he says "Steele, that's with two e's" referring to the fact that there are 2 "e's" next to each other and it's not spelled "ea" as in "Steal". As for the trailing "e", well, you can see how it's spelled on his nameplate on the desk. Therefore, there have been no mixups between writing & animation. From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 00:08:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Fanfic! Chance wrote: >Mark Lungo, the author of the "Animato!" thing, is working on one intermittently that has >"Bright and Shiny Future"'s Evil Callie as a main character. I've been trying to find time for I think you're referring to "Dark Side of the SWAT Kats". Callie was just a sweet, old kat in "Bright & Shiny Future". Art wrote: >I'm working on "Return of the Red Lynx". It's a takeoff from chance's > > I can come up with stories pretty well, but I need an idea to >start. Thanx, chance! Also, anyone have a better title? How 'bout "Dead On Arrival"? heh. I thought it sounded pretty cool! Holy Kats! We're gonna have to start publishing a 'zine just to keep up with all the fanfic... ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Please note the new play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com <---------------- address ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 00:10:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Fanfic! Chance wrote: >Mark Lungo, the author of the "Animato!" thing, is working on one intermittently that has >"Bright and Shiny Future"'s Evil Callie as a main character. I've been trying to find time for I think you're referring to "Dark Side of the SWAT Kats". Callie was just a sweet, old kat in "Bright & Shiny Future". Art wrote: >I'm working on "Return of the Red Lynx". It's a takeoff from chance's > > I can come up with stories pretty well, but I need an idea to >start. Thanx, chance! Also, anyone have a better title? How 'bout "Dead On Arrival"? heh. I thought it sounded pretty cool! Holy Kats! We're gonna have to start publishing a 'zine just to keep up with all the fanfic... ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Please note the new play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com <---------------- address ---------------------------------------------------------- From razor@netcom.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 00:36:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Yet Even More Kat Stuff At 12:10 AM 12/14/95, MATT WEBER wrote: >>"...'Steel'; that's with two 'e's..." > >Hmm.. more discussion on this, eh? >IMO, he says "Steele, that's with two e's" referring to the fact that there >are 2 "e's" next to each other and it's not spelled "ea" as in "Steal". As >for the trailing "e", well, you can see how it's spelled on his nameplate on >the desk. Therefore, there have been no mixups between writing & animation. "Steal"? Somehow that sounds more appropriate for the Lieutenant, seeing as how he's always trying to "steal" Feral's job! OK, back to your regularly scheduled listmail... -- ================ Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================ From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 00:11:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Oh! What a tangled thread we weave... >[Other stuff snipped] >> Now this is a really cool idea, putting a computer graphics in in a >> cartoon, they could cut drawing time for drawing vehicles, instead of >> having a animated TurboKat they could make it a fully rendered TurboKat >> flying over MegaKat city. Yes, a very cool idea. However, if you've ever seen shows that incorporate this (GI Joe Extreme or Battletech) it doesn't seem to work. At least not for me. I think one of the things that sets the series apart is the flat colors & 2-tone shading ala anime. It just wouldn't fit to have a nicely rendered 3D model of the TurboKat sporting a perfect gradient of colors and that "cookie-cutter" computer graphics look with the anime-ish backgrounds & character animation. (ooh! A run-on sentence!) > Could be interesting to do a 3D Turbokat as a project though - I might try when I get a free moment... This might be pretty easy to do with some modifications to a 3D model of an F-14. ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Please note the new play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com <---------------- address ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 00:09:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Oh! What a tangled thread we weave... >[Other stuff snipped] >> Now this is a really cool idea, putting a computer graphics in in a >> cartoon, they could cut drawing time for drawing vehicles, instead of >> having a animated TurboKat they could make it a fully rendered TurboKat >> flying over MegaKat city. Yes, a very cool idea. However, if you've ever seen shows that incorporate this (GI Joe Extreme or Battletech) it doesn't seem to work. At least not for me. I think one of the things that sets the series apart is the flat colors & 2-tone shading ala anime. It just wouldn't fit to have a nicely rendered 3D model of the TurboKat sporting a perfect gradient of colors and that "cookie-cutter" computer graphics look with the anime-ish backgrounds & character animation. (ooh! A run-on sentence!) > Could be interesting to do a 3D Turbokat as a project though - I might try when I get a free moment... This might be pretty easy to do with some modifications to a 3D model of an F-14. ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Please note the new play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com <---------------- address ---------------------------------------------------------- From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 22:14:05 -0800 Subject: Re: Oh! What a tangled thread we weave... >Use the regular animation while they are in the cockpit scene, and use the >CGI animation while the TurboKat is on a flyby over (Not showing the inside >of the cockpit ). Hey, great idea! Here's my helpful suggestion. You know how well they combine 3D CGI and traditional cel animation on UPN's "Space Strikers"! Well....don't do that. (I'm still a dinosaur when it comes to CG stuff in Sat-AM cartoons. You'd have to show me something truly amazing before I'd be willing to accept it for the 'Kat guys. Video Games, sure - but I haven't seen anything so far in Saturday morning fare that coerces the word "like" from my lips.) _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 22:13:56 -0800 Subject: Re: >Guidelines for list submissions: how about, say, no larger than about 6K >for a listmail submission? Anything substantially larger (like 92K) goes >directly to the FTP site. (This, btw, is a variant of something we've done >on the Disney TV Animation Mailing List and it's worked out nicely as far >as I can tell.) Roughly what I was thinking as well. I've only one request: if Miss Da S. was responsible for the idea, what say we make it "7k" instead of "6"...you know, for contrast or some junk. >That spelled with one or two 'l's? >Seriously, though, Callie's name is spelled as such in the placard on her >desk and in the end credits (second-season episodes). The first time she >mentions her full name is, I believe, in the episode "The Metallikats," >when she introduces herself to the Metallikats as "Callico Briggs! I'm the >one who turned down your paroles, bribes and all!" Unfortunately, the stuff I have from H-B either just refers to her as "Callie", or arbitrarily chooses spellings of "Callico" according to the whim of the writer. I'd go with the credits, as Siamese Kat nameplates don't appear to be all that reliable. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 22:24:13 -0800 Subject: Re: Fanfic! >I think you're referring to "Dark Side of the SWAT Kats". Callie was just a >sweet, old kat in "Bright & Shiny Future". You'll excuse me while I bang my head on the keyboard....qrpoit GKNBVO08T20 AD... there, I feel better. Apologies to all for the errors that have been creeping in lately...guess two hours sleep a night just isn't rejuvenating the little grey kat-cells properly. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 22:14:02 -0800 Subject: Re: Your Jet (fwd) >Aren't the harrier use a diverted engine thrust to gain VTOL flight ? >I think the TurboKat uses a middle jet and two air intake to gain VTOL flight. > >Does anybody want to add to this VTOL flight teory ? If you listen carefully, you'll hear the sound of rain on someone's parade. Um, maybe a new rule should be considered: please don't respond five or six times to the same post - especially if it's your own. A couple of folks have complained about people quoting an entire post and adding a single line of response, only to decide they wanted to add more at a later date and quote the whole thing again. That's okay for us Eudora types, but like pulling teeth for those using Netscape Mail or the UNIX type junk on a slow ISP. If you take a close look up at a Harrier, you'll see that the jet exhaust appears to be routed away from the main port and out through the "nozzles" at approximately the point where the wing attaches. In the Turbokat, it looks as though a portion of the two main engines' exhaust is also similarly routed for VTOL operations, with the "third" engine physically changing attitude to act as a stabilizer. I can't recall seeing a scene off the top of my head where both the Turbokat's main engines AND the VTOL ports in the wings are operating simultaneously. Swingwings? That concept has been around since the late 'fifties actually, and I think got its production start in the F-111 program (I'll have to look). Turbokat IS essentially an F-14 according to the design team, though there are enough physical variations to entertain a bit of speculation. I don't see a lot of similarity between Turbokat and either the F-16 or 18 though (and only partly because the TK's tailplanes don't crack when you look at them sideways!). _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 22:13:59 -0800 Subject: Re: Fanfic! >How about "The Shadow of the Lynx" ? or "A blast from the Past" ? I kinda like "Shadow of the Lynx" personally, 'sides, "Blast from the Past" is the name of an existing ep of TMNT. "Shadow" would work as a title based on what I'd conceived - I even have a serviceable idea for a scene which would tie it all together. > _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:36:00 +0700 Subject: Re: Feral drawings on "A bright and shiny future" >-Is it just me or Feral look cute (Funny) in "A bright and shiny future" ?? > > >He's OLD! Old and bald and fat! I didn't noticed that he's fat and bald in "A bright and shiny future", I just noticed that something is different on Feral look. >It'll happen to you too someday, so don't laugh. ;) Don't worry, I'm not the kind of person that laugh on somebody. >I think they did a very good job of aging the various characters. Feral >going bald, Callie getting wrinkled, Manx senile and in denial... They look the same to me, but Feral is the one that get my attention. >-------- >Samuel Conway, Ph.D. Does anyone want to add more comments ? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:35:56 +0700 Subject: Re: Feral drawings on "A bright and shiny future" >>Is it just me or Feral look cute (Funny) in "A bright and shiny future" ?? >> >>Does anybody want to add to this comment ? > >Without being able to hide behind a stiffly starched uniform and all the >trappings that go with >the kind of "respect-on-demand" nature of the Enforcer position, he was >actually a lot less >anal-retentive. In fact, he even smiled for the first time ever when he >was in Razor's TurboKat seat, and didn't >demand to be the center of >attention in the swamp as he usually does in every other > situation Yes, I too also noticed that he doesn't complain when Razor ask for the seat, and he seems less commenting on the SwatKats action. >(ever notice how he either snatches Ann Gora's mike, or leans in to the >camera to ensure that your attention is focussed utterly?). I don't know about the grabing the mike thing, but I noticed that he always want to tell Kateyes news that the SwatKats is a couple of vigilantes. >He *did* look rather silly with the prominent moustache though! Yes, he did look rather silly with that moustache, maybe that is the one that get my attention. Does anyone more want to add more comments ? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 17:50:32 +0700 Subject: Re: Your Jet (fwd) >>Aren't the harrier use a diverted engine thrust to gain VTOL flight ? >>I think the TurboKat uses a middle jet and two air intake to gain VTOL flight. >> >>Does anybody want to add to this VTOL flight teory ? (New rule idea is explained) >If you take a close look up at a Harrier, you'll see that the jet exhaust >appears to be >routed away from the main port and out through the "nozzles" at >approximately the >point where the wing attaches. All the Harrier jet exhaust is routed through the "nozzles" all the time. >In the Turbokat, it looks as though a portion of the two >main engines' exhaust is also similarly routed for VTOL operations, with >the "third" engine >physically changing attitude to act as a stabilizer. Where is the TurboKat VTOL ports is located ? The Swingwing technology is an old technology, it was used on F-111, B-1 Bomber, and F-14. >I don't see a lot of similarity between Turbokat and either >the F-16 or 18 though (and only partly because the TK's tailplanes don't >crack when you look >at them sideways!). But the F-16 only got one tail ??? How do one tail can crack ? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 17:50:36 +0700 Subject: All in one. I'm combining all the stuff from the other post to one single message to avoided the confusion. Is it a cool idea to have the TurboKat rendered ? Ben wrote: >Well - It might be OK if done very well, but IMHO mixing animation and >rendered 3D is unlikely to work, >especially in situations where you >actually have to show Razor and T-Bone in the cockpit of the TurboKat. Chance wrote: >Hey, great idea! Here's my helpful suggestion. You know how well they >combine 3D CGI >and traditional cel animation on UPN's "Space Strikers"! Well....don't do >that. Matt wrote: >Yes, a very cool idea. However, if you've ever seen shows that incorporate >this (GI Joe Extreme or Battletech) it doesn't seem to work. At least not >for me. My opinion: If it's going to be good, then do it. One problem, no new SwatKats series is planed. :-( Will Callie real name will be finaly be agree ? Chance wrote: >Unfortunately, the stuff I have from H-B either just refers to her as >"Callie", or >arbitrarily chooses spellings of "Callico" according to the whim of the >writer. I'd go with >the credits, as Siamese Kat nameplates don't appear to be all that reliable. Dana wrote: >That spelled with one or two 'l's? >Seriously, though, Callie's name is spelled as such in the placard on her >desk and in the end credits (second-season episodes). My opinion: IMO, her full name is Callico, if it's Calico then her nickname should be _Cal_ instead of Callie. Will Lt.Steel(e) name spelling will be known ? Dana wrote: >Lieutenant Steel(e): did we ever get an official word as to how the >Lieutenant's name should be spelled? Chance wrote: >I suspect somebody in storyboards fouled up by absent-mindedly using the >more common >"Steele" spelling, and the overseas outfit didn't know any better either. Matt wrote: >Actually, I believe his name is spelled "Steele" according to the name plate >he replaced Feral's with in "Wrath of Dark Kat" (I think). Even though he >tells Annie that his name is "Steele -- with 2 e's" I think it means 2 >"e's" in a row and not "ea" as in Steal. My opinion: Let's just call him Steel instead of Steele, it nicer (To me, and maybe somebody else) to hear Steel. How do the TurboKat VTOL flight really work ? Chance says: He says that the TurboKat use the same VTOL flight as the "Harrier". My opinion: I says the TurboKat use a different VTOL flight from the "Harrier". Will a new rule must be used ? Chance wrote: >If you listen carefully, you'll hear the sound of rain on someone's >parade. Um, maybe a >new rule should be considered: please don't respond five or six times to >the same post - >especially if it's your own. My opinion: This new rule should be used as soon as everybody can follow it. Is the SwatKats FAQ have to be updated ? My opinion: There is still some question that left unaswered when the FAQ has been read. From leetwail@iscs.nus.sg Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: Leet Wai Leong Simon Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 21:04:58 +0800 (GMT-8) Subject: Re: All in one. On Thu, 14 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > I'm combining all the stuff from the other post to one single message to > avoided the confusion. > > Is it a cool idea to have the TurboKat rendered ? > > Matt wrote: > >Yes, a very cool idea. However, if you've ever seen shows that incorporate > >this (GI Joe Extreme or Battletech) it doesn't seem to work. At least not > >for me. I'd have to agree with Matt on this one, given the choice, I'd rather just have the cel animation as opposed to CGI + animation. I find that kind of thing rather jarring. > Edo's opinion: > IMO, her full name is Callico, if it's Calico then her nickname should be > _Cal_ instead of Callie. How so? If Bob can be equivalent to Robert (rather than say, Rob) I don't see a problem with Callie being Calico as opposed to Callico > Edo's opinion: > Let's just call him Steel instead of Steele, it nicer (To me, and maybe > somebody else) to hear Steel. It sounds the same anyway ... why split hairs? -Simon Leet :) From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 07:01:36 -0800 Subject: Re: Feral drawings on "A bright and shiny future" >>He's OLD! Old and bald and fat! Yeah...I expected the double peace sign and "I am not a crook"! >>It'll happen to you too someday, so don't laugh. ;) ...just ask Terry Bradshaw... >>I think they did a very good job of aging the various characters. Feral >>going bald, Callie getting wrinkled, Manx senile and in denial... > >They look the same to me, but Feral is the one that get my attention. Nah. Look closer. Manx is completely threadbare, looks as though the dentures could've used spark plugs and a tune up, and Callie (though still glamorous after a fashion) risked a call from the Wardrobe Police. The only one relatively unchanged was Felina, but somehow the artists still managed to convey the look of an overtired resistance fighter who's slept with one eye open far too long. Hackle was senile to being with, so it wasn't too much of a stretch. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 07:14:48 -0800 Subject: Re: All in one. >Chance says: >He says that the TurboKat use the same VTOL flight as the "Harrier". Not. Just trying to give the Turbokat some frame of reference to real military aviation. It could run on fairy-dust for all I know. Spelling of names and other such stuff? Most of the friendlies at Hanna-Barbera have either been sacked or have quit in disgust, so asking such questions of the current regime either garners one the blankest of stares, or causes them to phone Atlanta to see if they'll still acknowledge even making the show in the first place. Tremblays were basically "big picture" men, and left the trivial stuff to the rest of the design team (Razor's exact age, T-Bone's hat size, how much Fairy Dust the Turbokat consumes during VTOL ops, and so on). Lance Falk has some of that info locked away in his mind and a desk drawer or two, but I can only get questions to him irregularly at best. There are three on my list now: Callico vs. Calico, real-life "ideal" for the Turbokat's VTOL operations, and whether or not we can hate "Steal" with two "e"'s or three. Who does Callie's hair anyone? _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 12:29:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Yet Even More Kat Stuff >(Oh yeah, how does she get two "l"s on her nickname? Proper english. if it had 1 l, it would be pronounced CAYLEE and not CAL-Y A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 12:26:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Your Jet (fwd) >What is this retractible wings? If you've seen "SWAT Kats UnPlugged" , you'll know what I was talking about. When HD was chasing them, Razor told t-bone to go through megakat tunnel and the TurboKat retracted it's wings and HD retracted his too, and razor said "Darn! Hard Drive has retractible wings, too!" A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From erudnick@pica.army.mil Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: Ed Rudnicki Date: Thu, 14 Dec 95 13:47:05 EST Subject: Re: Your Jet (fwd) >>Aren't the harrier use a diverted engine thrust to gain VTOL flight ? >>I think the TurboKat uses a middle jet and two air intake to gain VTOL flight. >> >>Does anybody want to add to this VTOL flight teory ? > >If you take a close look up at a Harrier, you'll see that the jet exhaust appears to be >routed away from the main port and out through the "nozzles" at approximately the >point where the wing attaches. In the Turbokat, it looks as though a portion of the two >main engines' exhaust is also similarly routed for VTOL operations, with the "third" engine >physically changing attitude to act as a stabilizer. I can't recall seeing a scene off the top of >my head where both the Turbokat's main engines AND the VTOL ports in the wings are >operating simultaneously. The Pegasus engine in the Harrier doesn't have a "main port". All of the exhaust is directed through four nozzles, all of which pivot to provide lift/thrust. The rear ports are core engine exhaust while the front port is fan exhaust only. The Turbokat in this regard has some similarity to the Russian Yak-141 prototype supersonic VTOL jet (the Harrier and Russian Yak-38 are subsonic), which has a single rear nozzle that can pivot down. This however uses a couple of lift engines at the front of the aircraft which are used only in VTOL mode. The Turbokat differs from both in that the air intakes become the front nozzles in VTOL mode. It's possible that the TK uses lift engines too, which discharge through the front nozzles/intakes, and while in this mode the main engines are getting air from other intake ports that we just don't see. There is precedent for this, in that the MiG-29 can close off its main air intakes while on the ground, to prevent foreign object damage from rough runways, with intake air coming from intakes atop the intake trunks which are normally closed in flight. Bottom line is that you can use weird geometries in VTOL mode because drag is not as big a problem, but in normal flight you need to be as clean as possible. Like the TK is. I think I'm taking this too seriously :) >Swingwings? That concept has been around since the late 'fifties actually, and I think >got its production start in the F-111 program (I'll have to look). Turbokat IS essentially >an F-14 according to the design team, though there are enough physical variations to >entertain a bit of speculation. I don't see a lot of similarity between Turbokat and either >the F-16 or 18 though (and only partly because the TK's tailplanes don't crack when you look >at them sideways!). The F-111 was the first production aircraft to use swing wings. There was an "X" series that used them, and the idea goes back to WW2 Germany. When did the Turbokat actually appear with the wings moving? I've not seen all the eps. Ed Rudnicki erudnick@pica.army.mil Oculis numquam claudentibus From mbotwin@ny.psca.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: Mitch Botwin Date: Thu, 14 Dec 95 14:26:44 -0500 Subject: Re: Your Jet (fwd) Begin forwarded message: >I think I'm taking this too seriously :) Not in the least. Blueprints would be nice. --- Mitch Botwin ------------------- Paradigm (212) 850-8100 Beeper 917-762-5506 mbotwin@ny.psca.com ------------------- From erudnick@pica.army.mil Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: Ed Rudnicki Date: Thu, 14 Dec 95 14:58:59 EST Subject: Re: Your Jet (fwd) >>I think I'm taking this too seriously :) > > >Not in the least. Blueprints would be nice. I'd think so too, but as this is all stuff I read about for fun (my USAF uncles got me interested in aircraft), no can do :) Ed Rudnicki erudnick@pica.army.mil Oculis numquam claudentibus From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 03:02:30 +0700 Subject: Re: Your Jet (fwd) >>What is this retractible wings? > > If you've seen "SWAT Kats UnPlugged" , you'll know what I was >talking about. When HD was chasing them, Razor told t-bone to go through >megakat tunnel and the TurboKat retracted it's wings and HD retracted his >too, and razor said "Darn! Hard Drive has retractible wings, too!" Retractable wings in a tunnel ? Cool ! How do they retract the TurboKat and HD craft wings ? do they fold the wing up or down ? or they do something else with wings ? From kaychang@eden.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 16:11:11 -0600 (CST) Subject: more fanic added!!! Hi. 'Day and Night' is sorta 'back into production', thankz to Ryan Kelley. I also got an old story that I've been tossing aorund for a while. It's called "Unexpected Evils". And I'm almost finished. Be proud! Terra Chang Swat Kats fan, writer, nice person, totally crazy. From kaychang@eden.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 16:17:54 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Fanfic! >Holy Kats! We're gonna have to start publishing a 'zine just to keep up >with all the fanfic... Nahh, let's just make it a book. With lotsa chapters! Make it an 'anthology' of kats fan stories Terra Chang Swat Kats fan, writer, nice person, totally crazy. From lsetnor@got.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: lsetnor@got.net (Leslie Setnor) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 19:18:54 -0800 Subject: [none] Callie's name- Got out the Big Book O Cat Stuff and found that the correct spelling is "Calico", one "L". Calico refers to a specific breed; only Calico cats are colored "calico" with black and brown splotches on white. The TurboKat- Pulled out the Big Book O Interceptor Aircraft to look for similarities. I paused the VCR on a first season episode and found that the TurboKat did indeed look very much like an F-14 Tomcat (beautifully appropriate, don't cha think?) , but also looked like a cartoony cross between that and a MiG 29 Fulcrum. At least, that's for the first season. According to my brother, they totally butchered the plane in the second season, making it, quote, "Totally un-realistic!" In his eyes, the TurboKat doesn't look at ALL like an F-14 anymore. Granted, this is his opinion, not mine. Karen Setnor lsetnor@got.net mcjd61b@prodigy.com Gargoyles.SWATKats.Eek.Exosquad.TheMaxx.SavageDragon.TheTick.Batman.ReBoot. From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 08:05:20 -0800 Subject: Re: Fanfic! > >>Holy Kats! We're gonna have to start publishing a 'zine just to keep up >>with all the fanfic... >Nahh, let's just make it a book. With lotsa chapters! Make it an 'anthology' >of kats fan stories You know, this isn't that bad an idea. If everyone finishes (or starts..sheesh) the fanfic they've planned, then we'll have almost enough for something like those collections of Bradbury short-stories. Hmmm.... Harrier. I was too lazy too check exactly where everything was, electing to go from my Abbotsford Airshow recollections instead. Bad plan. Swingwings? Can't recall an ep where you actually see the geometry change whilst the TurboKat is in flight. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 16:06:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: What's your favorite SK character? My favorite SK character(s) are the Creeplings. My favorite ep. with them is "Night of Dark Kat" A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 16:10:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Fan Mail People needed? If my server gets "Vanity" names, I'll change my ID to feral and get mail from people asking me why I hate the SWAT Kats. I'll just say would it look good for a commander to endorse vigilanties? Who's willing to be manx, callie, dark kat, dr. viper, pastmaster, Mack Mettallikat, Molly Metallikat? We could start a big fan mail list here! Rat could have something like "Write to your favorite SK character"We already have chance and jake, so all we need is what's above. Anyone want to add to this list? (Besides my favorites, the creeplings! :-) ) A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 15:53:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Fanfic! Yeah. I like "Shadows of the Past" also, but how about "Shadow of the Red Lynx" ? That sounds like the return of a monster on a horror movie or something. Yup. Feral's still bragging about the Blue Manx jet to the SWAT Kats. A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From danramos@ix.netcom.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: Dan Ramos Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 13:45:36 -0800 Subject: Re: Fan Mail People needed? At 04:10 PM 12/15/95 -0500, you wrote: >If my server gets "Vanity" names, I'll change my ID to feral and get mail >from people asking me why I hate the SWAT Kats. I'll just say would it >look good for a commander to endorse vigilanties? > > Who's willing to be manx, callie, dark kat, dr. viper, >pastmaster, Mack Mettallikat, Molly Metallikat? We could start a big fan >mail list here! Rat could have something like "Write to your favorite SK >character"We already have chance and jake, so all we need is what's >above. Anyone want to add to this list? (Besides my favorites, the >creeplings! :-) ) > Gee.. if it gets down to that.. why not just join a MUCK and roleplay it or at least have the mindset of the character as you interact with other characters? heheh... really. :) I mean, on FurTooniaMUCK (red_panda.tbyte.com 9999) and FurryMUCK (furry.org 8888) and several other toony like MUCKs already have a few. :) Like Razor played by Dana Uehara and T-Bone played by Walter Koziol. Even I play SONIC on both MUCKs plus my OWN original character MILES. :) I dunno that getting an Email "vanity name" is really the way to go if you wanna get into a character's mindset. :P From kaychang@eden.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 16:16:15 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Fan Mail People needed? > Who's willing to be manx, callie, dark kat, dr. viper, >pastmaster, Mack Mettallikat, Molly Metallikat? Well, if I *have* to, I'd take Callie. (Rather make up my *own* character!!) Terra Chang Swat Kats fan, writer, nice person, totally crazy. From kaychang@eden.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 16:14:54 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: What's your favorite SK character? >My favorite SK character(s) are the Creeplings. My favorite ep. with them >is "Night of Dark Kat" NOOOOO!!!!! That's *evil*!! *My* favorite is Razor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Courtney thinks so too!!!!) :) Terra Chang Swat Kats fan, writer, nice person, totally crazy. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 05:52:15 +0700 Subject: Re: Fanfic! >Yeah. I like "Shadows of the Past" also, but how about "Shadow of the Red >Lynx" ? Yes, "Shadow of the Red Lynx" is fine with me. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 05:52:13 +0700 Subject: Re: Fan Mail People needed? > Who's willing to be manx, callie, dark kat, dr. viper, >pastmaster, Mack Mettallikat, Molly Metallikat? Just as like Terra said, _if I *have* too_, then I take Manx, I got my own reason on choosing him. :-) PS: I actualy want to take a character that I make up in my fanfic story, just as like Terra said "Rather make up my *own* character!!". From fayxx001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: Timothy D Fay Date: Fri, 15 Dec 95 17:10:06 -0600 Subject: Re: What's your favorite SK character? My favorite character is Calico (a/k/a "Callie") Briggs. She can be my Deputy Mayor any time! :) -Tim From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 06:09:31 +0700 Subject: Re: What's your favorite SK character? >>My favorite SK character(s) are the Creeplings. My favorite ep. with them >>is "Night of Dark Kat" > >NOOOOO!!!!! That's *evil*!! *My* favorite is >Razor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well if he said to choose a favorite character in the SwatKats universe, that's ok if he choose someone other than the SwatKats, even if it's an evil character. I think I choose *Callie* as my favorite character in the SwatKats universe. >Terra Chang But if you mean a favorite SwatKats character, I think I choose Razor. From flogistn@netaxs.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 18:50:27 -0500 Subject: Re: What's your favorite SK character? I'm rather partial to Doctor Konway. ;) But if it's favorites, I'd have to pic Razor. ------ Samuel Conway, Ph.D. Senior Staff Chemist Avid Therapeutics Philadelphia, PA flogistn@netaxs.com From lsetnor@got.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: lsetnor@got.net (Leslie Setnor) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 21:10:03 -0800 Subject: Re: What's your favorite SK character? Favorite good guy: Razor, but T-Bone is better looking. ;) Fav. Villian: Turmiol, but maybe that's just my feminist side kicking in. Karen Setnor lsetnor@got.net mcjd61b@prodigy.com Gargoyles.SWATKats.Eek.Exosquad.TheTick.TheMaxx.SavageDragon.Batman.ReBoot From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 23:49:34 -0800 Subject: Re: What's your favorite SK character? >My favorite SK character(s) are the Creeplings. My favorite ep. with them >is "Night of Dark Kat" ...somewhat reluctant to join the chorus of "Me Too", but my favourite character is also RazorKat. For whatever reason, he's my favourite ac-adv toon character among everything that I've watched since the cross-legged-with-Corn-Flakes days in front of the TV Saturday Mornings (...um, *last* Saturday Morning come to think of it...). I like T-Bone too, but I already know quite a few people like Chance, but none whatsoever like Razor. He's interesting. Other cast? I really like Feral due to the kind of 'depth' his character has, and think that Steel(e) has the capability of going places too. In the Katwoman department: Felina is a couple of notches above Callie in my eyes, but then again I like Klingon women so whaddo I know? _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 23:49:37 -0800 Subject: Re: Fan Mail People needed? >Gee.. if it gets down to that.. why not just join a MUCK and roleplay it or >at least have the mindset of the character as you interact with other >characters? >heheh... really. :) There's a bunch of list-members that are alternately Turtles, Kats and Hedgehogs crawling about in the MUCK. I haven't had the on-line time to try out any of 'em yet, but plan on ditching this account in favour of a more flexible one after the Ho Ho Holidays. Part of the other drag is that the Surgeon General has determined that imagination decreases with amount worked - so I'm not sure there's enough left to role-play. . Even I play SONIC >on both MUCKs plus my OWN original character MILES. :) See? Even Dan's schizophrenic...just now we'll have someone playing both Raphael and Razor. (heheheheh...) Actually, on "Furtoonia" there is an entire cyberversion of "MegaKat City" to MUCK-about in - complete with a park and stuff last time I heard. Just stay out of the park after dark - there's enough of that going on in a.f.f. at the moment. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 07:36:04 GMT Subject: Re: JQ vs. Cyber Insects k._m._schoonmaker@spacesta.com (K. M._SCHOONMAKER) wrote: The Cyber-Insects (wasps, assassin bugs, etc.) >kinda reminded me of the monster bugs in the respective "SWAT Kats" episodes >"The Ci-Kat-a" and "The Origin of Dr. Viper." (I'll bet our Kat-boys woulda >mopped up the floor with Dr. Zin and his bugs if this had been THEIR movie!) Of course they would! Only problem is that it wouldn't keep the word "Jonny" on the tip of your tongue for the launch of "New Adventures of.." in '96. Turner's piled a ton of money into this, and is backing up the release with a merchandising campaign that'll put "Jonny" on everything from underwear to ironing board covers. The direct quote (which I'm going to leave unattributed to protect the innocent) goes: "We learned a lot from failing to market SwatKats properly. We aren't making the same mistakes with 'Jonny Quest', and will have...(licensed goods)...ready before the first air date". Kinda rare to hear the "m" word from Turner org. Maybe Captain Planet will up H-B's allowance just enough to finish the remaining three episodes of Kats as kind of a viewers' going away present. No doubt we will. _______________________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 O'clock..." -"Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment on "conspiracy to traffick" charges, complete with fuzzy wristband. _______________________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 07:35:56 GMT Subject: Re: JQ vs. Cyber Insects **************************************************************************** Very amusing post from rec.arts.animation submitted for your enjoyment. Lets hope Turnerco was listening. **************************************************************************** In rec.arts.animation, k._m._schoonmaker@spacesta.com (K. M._SCHOONMAKER) wrote: >Hi, Guys! Finally got a chance to watch the "JQ vs. the Cyber Insects" movie >Friday night (12/1). It was a wonderful adventure/sci-fi/coming-of-age film >...NOT! >The human characters were drawn flat and expressionless; Jonny's father sounded >like such a dork when he lectured his son on growing up etc. And couldn't you >just see the happy "Jonny learns his lesson, saves the world, and passes the >trial of manhood" ending coming halfway through the opening credits? >About the only things that impressed me about "JQ vs. C-I" were the titular >mutants, and 4-Dac the robot. The Cyber-Insects (wasps, assassin bugs, etc.) >kinda reminded me of the monster bugs in the respective "SWAT Kats" episodes >"The Ci-Kat-a" and "The Origin of Dr. Viper." (I'll bet our Kat-boys woulda >mopped up the floor with Dr. Zin and his bugs if this had been THEIR movie!) >BTW, in between commercials, I watched some parts of "Saturday Morning Televi- >sion's Greatest Hits" on CN's "Toonapalooza." (I could almost swear I was >watching "Alternative Nation!") >Anybody else watch that special? >... "I'll bet you've never tasted a living mutation before..." >___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 _______________________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 O'clock..." -"Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment on "conspiracy to traffick" charges, complete with fuzzy wristband. _______________________________________________________________________ From ben@gunk.demon.co.uk Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: Ben Carter Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 00:48:56 GMT Subject: Re: Fan Mail People needed? In message you wrote: > If my server gets "Vanity" names, I'll change my ID to feral and get mail > from people asking me why I hate the SWAT Kats. I'll just say would it > look good for a commander to endorse vigilanties? > > Who's willing to be manx, callie, dark kat, dr. viper, > pastmaster, Mack Mettallikat, Molly Metallikat? We could start a big fan > mail list here! Rat could have something like "Write to your favorite SK > character"We already have chance and jake, so all we need is what's > above. Anyone want to add to this list? (Besides my favorites, the > creeplings! :-) ) I wouldn't mind doing Hard Drive - If I had to be ruthlessly evil (stop grinning!), I think that's what I'd be like... Also, is it ever explained how he got his "powers"? (He appears from the phone in "Swat Kats unplugged") Could be interesting... Also, a while back someone suggested doing an episode where he trapped the Swat Kats in a VR universe (to cut animation costs, I think) - does anyone mind me doing this as a piece of fan-fic? (Is anyone already doing it?) Seeya! -- Ben Carter +-------------------------------+ /---\ |Formerly c.carter@ulst.ac.uk...| ( . . )<- A Merp. Don't ask. |... now ben@gunk.demon.co.uk! | ( - ) (but buy the game anyway!) +-------------------------------+ \---/ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 22:40:04 +0700 Subject: Kats in SwatKats that doesn't have a first name. Commander Feral Liuetenant Steel(e) Mayor Manx Doc Konway (BTW, are his first name is the same as Samuel Conway ?) Ok, maybe they do have a first name, but since I don't know their first name, how about someone from this list telling me what their first name is ? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 22:40:09 +0700 Subject: Re: Fan Mail People needed? >In message you wrote: > >> Who's willing to be manx, callie, dark kat, dr. viper, >> pastmaster, Mack Mettallikat, Molly Metallikat? > > Also, a while back someone suggested doing an episode where he trapped >the Swat Kats in a VR universe (to cut animation costs, I think) - does >anyone mind me doing this as a piece of fan-fic? (Is anyone already doing >it?) Hey, that's me you talking about, oh yeah back to your question, I don't think anyone will mind if you did a fan-fic story about this, just like chance says "so if you've got the same idea (and more spare time than I do), feel free to fanfic away.", and that is what he say about this same fan-fic idea thing, oh yeah ! if I may help, maybe I can give some idea on how the SwatKats been trap there and how Hard Drive attack them in this VR world (Don't know Hard Drive yet, but like to know more about him, love high-tech thing :-) ). > Seeya! > >-- > Ben Carter From flogistn@netaxs.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 10:51:59 -0500 Subject: Re: Kats in SwatKats that doesn't have a first name. Doctor Konway was never given a first name. Maybe it's Siam? ;) ------ Samuel Conway, Ph.D. Senior etc. etc. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 01:20:23 +0700 Subject: Re: Kats in SwatKats that doesn't have a first name. >Doctor Konway was never given a first name. How about if we try to give him a first name (Just for fun) ? any suggestion people ? >Maybe it's Siam? ;) Could be, anyone agree on Conway's suggestion on Konway first name ? >------ >Samuel Conway, Ph.D. >Senior etc. etc. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 01:20:25 +0700 Subject: The TurboKat similarities. Is it just me or does the TurboKat (When view from the top in delta wing mode) look like the SwatKats symbol (Logo) ? Oh yeah, since this is about the TurboKat, let's talk about the TurboKat middle jet too, let's talk about it functions: 1. Used in afterburner flight 2. Used in VTOL flight 3. Work as Jet car (or buggy depend on who you ask :-) ) when is separate from the TurboKat. (Hmmm..., maybe this is the one that pulled the TurboKat after "Mutation City") Anyone want to add to this middle jet function list ? From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 13:54:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Kats in SwatKats that doesn't have a first name. Feral's first name is Ullyiissies "Pronounced U-LIS-EEE" (I forgot how to spell it. Check out "Unlikely Alloys" for his name. \ Steel Greenhorn. Check out "Wrath of Dark Kat". Steel: "I'm really not trained for this... I think I'm gonna be sick. Ughh..." Feral: "And you wanted my job greenhorn?" My dialouge isn't exactly correct, for I never really paid much attention to that part. VTOL stuff: My dad knows a ton about aircraft, and he said that the TurboKat's VTOL is simialr to a Harrier's. A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From flogistn@netaxs.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 14:13:32 -0500 Subject: Steel's name, and Kristmas Kats - Steel Greenhorn. Check out "Wrath of Dark Kat". Steel: "I'm -really not trained for this... I think I'm gonna be sick. Ughh..." Feral: -"And you wanted my job greenhorn?" My dialouge isn't exactly correct, for -I never really paid much attention to that part. Ahhhh...no. Greenhorn's not his name. Greenhorn is what Feral was calling him. A greenhorn is someone who is very new and inexperienced at something. Feral was basically calling him a rookie. Now.... With the upcoming holiday season, I began to wonder about how such a thing would be handled in MegaKat City. Do they have an equivalent of Christmas? Religion is never discussed in cartoons, heavens no, but would they have an equivalent secular holiday? All this led to images in my head of the Turbokat hauling a sleigh behind it. Makes me wonder if the Brothers Tremblay ever had anything in the backs of their minds about this. ------ Samuel Conway, Ph.D. Senior Fat Jolly Old Guy in a Red Suit Avid Therapeutics Philadelphia, PA flogistn@netaxs.com From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 11:39:53 -0800 Subject: Re: Kats in SwatKats that doesn't have a first name. >Doctor Konway was never given a first name. >Maybe it's Siam? ;) Heh...Siamese fur and Rayon lab-coats must make for an interesting static problem. I bet when Konway takes off his coat, his entire body looks like a Don King fright-wig. Two more for my list - Mr. Yung doesn't have a first name, his associates are mute, so they don't rate a name whatsoever, and Warden Meese didn't have one either (though "Cyrus" comes to mind for some reason - maybe I need to watch it again). >------ >Samuel Conway, Ph.D. >Senior etc. etc. Man, I only minored in etc. etc. - how many years of school for a Doctorate in it? _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 11:39:50 -0800 Subject: Re: Kats in SwatKats that doesn't have a first name. >Commander Feral Commander Feral has the awkward monicker "Ulysses" to try and fit on his nameplate. >Liuetenant Steel(e) L-I-E-U-tenant, actually (pronunskiated "leftenant" if you're a Brit). >Mayor Manx >Doc Konway (BTW, are his first name is the same as Samuel Conway ?) Strange, huh? I mean, we have "Ann" Gora, "Felina" Feral, "Abby" Sinian etc, but only surnames for the guys (discrimination! Kat brothers unite and rise against the female oppressor!). I mean, Professor Hackle, Mayor Manx, Lt. Steel, Dr. Viper (though I guess he's technically Elrod Purvis) and so on. We need Kat-guy suffragettes... (I don't volunteer - a six-inch wide sash will clash with the pumps.) _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 15:36:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: Kats Christmas Song Here's a song I made to the tune of "12 days of x-mas". Feel free to change it. T-Bone: On the 12th day of Christmas, Razor gave to me: 12 Ci-Kat-As 11 Buzz-Saw missles 10 Octopus Launchers 9 Cement Machine Guns 8 Slicer blades 7 Grappling hooks 6 Glov-a-trixes 5 Golden HAIRBALLS! (Got that one from Ren&Stimpy's Crock-o-Christmas) 4 Villians running (Dr. Viper, Dark Kat, Mac, and Molly) 3 Little Creeplings (My favorite!) 2 Evil SWAT Kats And a TurboKat stuck in a tree! A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 15:42:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Creeplings (WAS What is your favorite SK character?) >NOOOO!!!! THAT'S EVIL!!!! Depends. Creeplings could have just been steered in the wrong direction by Dark Kat. (FanFic idea coming on......) I like their happy laughs and when they played with one of the Glovatrixes and were shotting at each other and laughing. Creepling should show up more. "Night of Dark Kat" was the only one where they showed up the most. Now--for the FanFic idea: Maybe Dark Kat could have found the Creeplings orphaned of something and he raised them to be evil. Just an idea. A.J. Freda Decent writer Not-so-CRAZY! person. SysOp of TurboKat BBS. The ONLY BBS that has special posting and d-loading areas for SWAT Kats and Sonic the Hedgehog! Call 616-922-1733 People on this mailing list get free access! Ren&Stimpy MOVies too! A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From danramos@ix.netcom.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: Dan Ramos Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 13:03:45 -0800 Subject: Re: Fan Mail People needed? At 11:49 PM 12/15/95 -0800, you wrote: >. Even I play SONIC >>on both MUCKs plus my OWN original character MILES. :) > >See? Even Dan's schizophrenic...just now we'll have someone playing both Raphael and Razor. >(heheheheh...) Actually, on "Furtoonia" there is an entire cyberversion of "MegaKat City" to >MUCK-about in - complete with a park and stuff last time I heard. Just stay out of the park >after dark - there's enough of that going on in a.f.f. at the moment. Heh, actually.. know what's kewl? When David Litterbin airs on all the televisions all over MegaKat city and in the park, on FurTooniaMUCK. :) Yupyup... 'tis fun to role play a cartoon universe. :) Evern weirder when Sonic and Robotnik meet and then something you'll NEVER see on television happens--Razor and T-Bone show up... then DarkKat, etc..etc.. :) From kaychang@eden.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 15:16:41 -0600 (CST) Subject: Eh he, sorry..... Whoops. Big mistake. The file in wich I kept "Razor's Nemesis" busted on me. It may or may not make it. Sorry peoples. (kats.) BTW, Feral's name, doesn't it mean "Hate Wild?" (after all, Feral means wild, untamed, ect. and Ulysess means hate. If his name was Feral Ulysess, it would make more sense (Wild Hate, and Feral *apparently* hates the Swat Kats.... But then, maybe I've been staying up to late reading. :) Terra Chang Swat Kats fan, writer, nice person, totally crazy. From fayxx001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: Timothy D Fay Date: Sat, 16 Dec 95 15:20:59 -0600 Subject: Re: Kats Christmas Song Wonderful! Thanks for posting it! -Tim From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 13:56:20 -0800 Subject: Re: Creeplings (WAS What is your favorite SK character?) > > Now--for the FanFic idea: > > Maybe Dark Kat could have found the Creeplings orphaned of >something and he raised them to be evil. Just an idea. Man, I forgot to mention something, but it looks as though A. J. already covered it pretty well. I don't remember who told me this (from Christian or Falk - I think) but Dark Kat's origin actually revolves around him seeking sanctuary in a cave or some junk, and finding the Creeplings already there mumbling and muttering about in the darkness. Kinda sounds like the House of Commons. Anyway, if anyone wants to develop the Creeplings along these lines, now you know there's some basis in Kat-lore. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From CNbL@aol.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: CNbL@aol.com Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 19:35:41 -0500 Subject: Re: What's your favorite SK character? My favorite would have to be Felina. They should have shown more of her in the series :-( From CNbL@aol.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: CNbL@aol.com Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 19:36:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Fan Mail People needed? > Who's willing to be manx, callie, dark cat, dr. viper, > pastmaster,, Mack Metallikat, Molly Metallikat?..... I'd pick Felina, but if I had to pick from the above list, Molly. From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 20:12:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats Hi everyone! I got a response from an email I sent to ToonNet@aol.com. I can't find my original letter, but look at my notes: >Dear Matt: > >Thanks for writing and inquiring about the Swat Kats! Unfortunately, the only >response that I found when inquiring about Hanna-Barbera stopping production >on the Swat Kats was that it did not do well in the ratings. Hanna-Barbera >originally produced the series for Superstation WTBS and TNT - Cartoon >Network just acquired the series and we now air all the episodes that have >been made. Hmmm.. I don't remember asking why it was cancelled, but I may have. > >We're excited about the Time-Warner/Turner merge, but we're not sure exactly >what to expect around here. We're already in production for a new Jonny Quest >series as well as continuing production on the World Premiere Toon program. >The animation studios in Los Angeles may merge, or stay as separate >production companies - we never know. Heh. I _did_ ask if the merger between TW & Turner would affect the control that TPS has over HB. Of course, they just keep pushing Jon & WPT :P > >I don't have any information on any available merchandise, but you can call >1-800-285-7001 and order a Turner catalogue with lots of merchandise from >Cartoon Network. Hmm.. I also asked if they knew what kind of Kats merchandise was/is available and where to get it. I think I'll try that phone number & see what goodies may be out there. > >Happy holidays! >Cartoon Network > ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Please note the new play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com <---------------- address ---------------------------------------------------------- From lsetnor@got.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: lsetnor@got.net (Leslie Setnor) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 18:41:50 -0800 Subject: Re: Eh he, sorry..... >BTW, Feral's name, doesn't it mean "Hate Wild?" (after all, Feral means >wild, untamed, ect. and Ulysess means hate. >If his name was Feral Ulysess, it would make more sense (Wild Hate, and >Feral *apparently* hates the Swat Kats.... If his name is Feral (I for some reason, was under the impression it was "Ferrel") it make sence for a cat. When talking about feral cats or dogs, it usually means a domestic animal that has moved back into the wild. So it is a common cat-related name, but it's hardly something that describes Feral. Seems like a better name for Chance. Karen Setnor lsetnor@got.net mcjd61b@prodigy.com Gargoyles.TheTick.SWATKats.Eek.TheMaxx.Exosquad.SavageDragon.Batman.ReBoot From mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net (David Minter) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 20:12:05 -0600 Subject: Re: What's your favorite SK character? >My favorite SK character(s) are the Creeplings. My favorite ep. with them >is "Night of Dark Kat" I divide this subject (no matter what media) into good guys and bad guys. Favorite "good guy" Commander Feral. He's a wonderfully complex character that should get more of the spotlight. I mean, with the SK, he'd never win, and though he'll never admit it, he needs as the SK, as evidenced on a few occasions. Favorite bad guy: Hardrive. Okay, I'll admit I'm biased here. I'm a computer science major. But, he's drawn so nicely, almost like a smaller, meaner Feral. And, his HD coat kind of makes him look sort of regal, the circuitry being almost like badges of honor. David Minter mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net ( What an original signature! ) From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 22:56:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: What's your favorite SK character? Nooo! You can't make me *pick* a favorite! I could never make a choice between Razor, T-Bone or Callie, not to mention any of the other characters! (Although I find it easier to draw T-Bone.) There's no way this show would work without one or the other main characters. ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 22:56:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Kats in SwatKats that doesn't have a first name. >Strange, huh? I mean, we have "Ann" Gora, "Felina" Feral, "Abby" Sinian etc, but only >surnames for the guys (discrimination! Kat brothers unite and rise against the female >oppressor!). I mean, Professor Hackle, Mayor Manx, Lt. Steel, Dr. Viper (though I guess >he's technically Elrod Purvis) and so on. > >We need Kat-guy suffragettes... Heh. What about Kats with no _last_ name!?? Johnny (camerakat), Rob (chopper pilot), Burke, Murray, etc. uh-oh. I think I just opened up another can of worms! ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 22:56:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Multi-response Chance wrote: >Swingwings? Can't recall an ep where you actually see >the geometry change whilst the TurboKat is in flight. This happened in "SWAT Kats Unplugged" & a few other eps. I believe. Someone wrote: >>I think the TurboKat uses a middle jet and two air >>intake to gain VTOL flight. >Does anybody want to add to this VTOL flight teory ? I think this is one of those questions that will remain un-answered. Actually, it would be _impossible_ for the TurboKat to fly in RL. I goes against all the laws of physics! Heh. I'd like to see a Harrier carry a supply of 25 different types of missiles, 3 extra vehicles, a crew of 2 (with room for more) and fly rings around an F-15! Suffice it to say that Kats technology is *far* beyond that of humans.. ;) An on-going debate: >IMO, her full name is Callico, if it's Calico Ah.. The spelling of Callie's name.. I assume that she was orginally named "Calico Briggs" due to the reference of a calico cat. Webster spells it "calico" with only one "l". My vote's with Webster. Unless of course Lance Falk has other ideas! :) I wrote: >Actually, I believe his name is spelled "Steele" >according to the name plate he replaced Feral's >with in "Wrath of Dark Kat" (I think). Edo wrote: >Let's just call him Steel instead of Steele, Sorry, I'm not letting this go.. heh. Webster defines "steel" as "to fill with resolution or determination". I'm not really sure the Lieutenant has either of those qualities -- he seems to be lacking in both those areas. I still vote for "Steele". From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 14:31:51 +0700 Subject: Steel(e) and Razor, brothers ? Since Ratman mention this, I could never stop thinking about this, I have watched "The Wrath of Dark Kat" and it seems that they never meet face to face in this episode (The SwatKats take off as soon as the Enforcer arrives), someone also said that they also meet in "Enter the MadKat" (An another episode that I haven't watched), maybe we should discuss more about this "brotherhood" possiblities thing. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 14:31:53 +0700 Subject: Re: Eh he, sorry..... >BTW, Feral's name, doesn't it mean "Hate Wild?" (after all, Feral means >wild, untamed, ect. and Ulysess means hate. Yes that probaly it, maybe because he hate wild/disorder/chaos thing, of course this is my opinion, so I could be wrong about this. >If his name was Feral Ulysess, it would make more sense (Wild Hate, and >Feral *apparently* hates the Swat Kats.... But that could also change Felina last name. >But then, maybe I've been staying up to late reading. :) Could be. :-) >Terra Chang From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 14:32:01 +0700 Subject: My reply to Matt's multi response. ---Favorite character debate: My response to Matt's: >Nooo! You can't make me *pick* a favorite! Yes you right, picking favorite only make us apart, and it's unfair for them either. >I could never make a choice >between Razor, T-Bone or Callie, not to mention any of the other characters! >(Although I find it easier to draw T-Bone.) There's no way this show would >work without one or the other main characters. Ok, let's change the question into something else, which character that you choose to hang out with if you stuck in MegaKat city ? you may choose a lot of characters in this question. My response to CNbL@aol.com: >My favorite would have to be Felina. >They should have shown more of her in the series :-( Yes, they should have her more in the series, but it seems that if they focus on her, Callie will have to get out of the picture :-(, and it depressed me when either one of them is left out from the series. ---VTOL flight debate: My response to Matt's: >I wrote: >>Does anybody want to add to this VTOL flight teory ? > >I think this is one of those questions that will remain un-answered. >Actually, it would be _impossible_ for the TurboKat to fly in RL. I goes >against all the laws of physics! Heh. I'd like to see a Harrier carry a >supply of 25 different types of missiles, 3 extra vehicles, a crew of 2 >(with room for more) and fly rings around an F-15! Suffice it to say that >Kats technology is *far* beyond that of humans.. ;) Unless it could be that the law of physic in the Kat universe is different from ours. ;) (Kat technology maybe more advanced than ours, but I don't think that their is *far* beyond us, they still use nuclear powerplants in "The Wrath of Dark Kat") ---Spelling debate: My response to Matt's: >An on-going debate: >>IMO, her full name is Callico, if it's Calico > >Ah.. The spelling of Callie's name.. >I assume that she was orginally named "Calico Briggs" due to the reference >of a calico cat. Webster spells it "calico" with only one "l". My vote's >with Webster. Unless of course Lance Falk has other ideas! :) Ok, let's we all call Callie, and ask her. ;-) (BTW, I still vote for "Callico") >I still vote for "Steele". I still vote for "Steel". From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 01:14:10 -0800 Subject: Re: What's your favorite SK character? >My favorite would have to be Felina. >They should have shown more of her in the series :-( Like it says in the "Animato!" article, Callie Briggs wasn't originally going to be the first Kat-woman in the show. The first concept was for a "policewoman", but she was 'postponed' until the second season in favour of Callie. "Felina" is what this policewoman evolved into, and she would've had a greater role as things went on; she was supposedly set to play a major part in the unfinished "Curse of Kataluna" in which her uncle falls under the spell of a Vampire-esque succubus-type character. "Clue-tron bomb....DEPLOYED!" (..before H-B and WBA merge of course...) _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 01:09:20 -0800 Subject: Re: SWAT Kats >>Thanks for writing and inquiring about the Swat Kats! Unfortunately, the only >>response that I found when inquiring about Hanna-Barbera stopping production >>on the Swat Kats was that it did not do well in the ratings. >Hmmm.. >I don't remember asking why it was cancelled, but I may have. Heh. It's called a Freudian Slip, and it happens when you automatically expect everyone to ask the question you aren't allowed to admit people are asking. >Heh. I _did_ ask if the merger between TW & Turner would affect the control >that TPS has over HB. Of course, they just keep pushing Jon & WPT :P Double "heh"...I think I'm going to forward a snippet of this to Warners if there aren't any objections. The "pushing Jon & WPT" theme seems hauntingly reminiscent of that ABA convention awhile back where Turner reps brushed off Kats as "not a current property we're pursuing" and kept trying to drift the topic back on to Jonny and the WPT's. Well, at least they're consistent. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 11:50:09 -0800 Subject: Re: Animaniacs Fan insults Joe Barbera! ***Here's something forwarded from e-mail after an exchange on rec.arts.animation. This particular animation fan doesn't really fall into the hard-core Swat "Cats" fandom, but I've noted that his opinion seems to be shared by many folks that I talk to. *** From: TReed10@aol.com >Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 12:19:08 -0500 >To: chance@unix.infoserve.net >Subject: Re: Animaniacs Fan insults Joe Barbera! >Incidentally, what do you think of Hanna-Barbara (under Turner's rule) >disemboweling itself? Admittedly, they don't have much of a history to be >proud of, but what little they have, they are wrecking. "Space Ghost Coast to >Coast" may be funny for a while, but it gets as tiring as David Letterman. >And now I understand they're going to stick Birdman into something similar. >Are they mocking their own past, claiming "We're more sophisticated than that >old stuff we used to do"? That might be a perilous approach, since their >present isn't much to brag about. (With the possible exception of "SWAT >Cats.") > > _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 02:55:57 +0700 Subject: Re: Steel(e)'s name, and Kristmas Kats >Now.... > >With the upcoming holiday season, I began to wonder about how such a thing >would be handled in MegaKat City. Do they have an equivalent of Christmas? Could be, maybe they have some celebration that always done near the end of every year, like a parade or something like that. >but would they have an equivalent secular holiday? Yes that probaly it, maybe they have "Manx week" for a holliday, as a honor to their mayor. >All this led to images in my head of the Turbokat hauling a sleigh behind it. Does anybody here want to convert "Jingle bells" to kats song ? :-) >------ >Samuel Conway, Ph.D. >Senior Fat Jolly Old Guy in a Red Suit From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 12:07:02 -0800 Subject: Re: Kats in SwatKats that doesn't have a first name. > > >Heh. What about Kats with no _last_ name!?? Johnny (camerakat), Rob >(chopper pilot), Burke, Murray, etc. And after you opened the can of worms, I get to confuse 'em a little. Just to make things interesting, they throw some Kat guys with _two_ names into the mix: "Tiger Conklin", "Dr. Leiter Greenbox", "Dr. En Zyme", "Mac Mange" etc. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 02:56:03 +0700 Subject: Re: What's your favorite SK character? >>My favorite would have to be Felina. >>They should have shown more of her in the series :-( > >Like it says in the "Animato!" article, Callie Briggs wasn't originally >going to be the first >Kat-woman in the show. The first concept was for a "policewoman", but she >was 'postponed' >until the second season in favour of Callie. What is the reason they choose Callie to replace the "policewoman" ? could it be that Callie and Felina is the same kat ? but divided into two kats. >"Felina" is what this policewoman evolved into, and she >would've had a greater role as things went on; she was supposedly set to >play a major part in >the unfinished "Curse of Kataluna" in which her uncle falls under the >spell of a Vampire-esque >succubus-type character. Does anybody here want to write a fanfic story about Felina ? I like the first helichopter scene of "Mutation City", they should have more like that, that could make Felina and Callie a little bit closer and work as a team. PS: A question, what if Felina misses her shot at that scene ? From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 15:42:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Kats in SwatKats that doesn't have a first name. >"Dr. En Zyme" Enzyme. Hah, sounds like stomach fluids or a chemical that dissloves something. Good choice for a scientist! :) A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From kaychang@eden.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 15:58:29 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: What's your favorite SK character? >Does anybody here want to write a fanfic story about Felina ? I would, but Felina's not a big favorite of mine. (Don't start boo-ing me yet. I've got more stories on the site than anyone 'cept Ryan.) >PS: A question, what if Felina misses her shot at that scene ? Callie gets toasted, and all her fans turn up for the funeral. Next question please. Terra Chang Swat Kats fan, writer, nice person, totally crazy. From kaychang@eden.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 16:07:57 -0600 (CST) Subject: other animals in the kats universe What about other animals. I dunno if anyone else who saw this remembers, but in S.K.I.Q., one of trivia question's answer choices was "dog drool." (they showed a picture of the cement machine gun and asked what they were shhoting.) In Chance's story, there are lions, tigers, and bears (oh my!) wich escape, and basically start the main plot. Are there dogs and stuff there? And what about *humans?* Where does *our* species fit in? A definete fanfic idea is here, anyone wanna try making it into a story? 'kay bye. Terra Chang Swat Kats fan, writer, nice person, totally crazy. From mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net (David Minter) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 17:43:30 -0600 Subject: Re: Steel's name, and Kristmas Kats >With the upcoming holiday season, I began to wonder about how such a thing >would be handled in MegaKat City. Do they have an equivalent of Christmas? >Religion is never discussed in cartoons, heavens no, but would they have >an equivalent secular holiday? All this led to images in my head of the >Turbokat hauling a sleigh behind it. > >Makes me wonder if the Brothers Tremblay ever had anything in the backs of >their minds about this. Well, I think we already have it here in our own dimension. It's called "The Jingle Cats." :> But, that made me think. Wouldn't "Jingle Bells" be interesting if done on a synthesizer, ala "Jingle Cats," using Razor's "BINGO!" Perhaps not. After all, I am irrevicably cracked... David Minter mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net ( What an original signature! ) From mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net (David Minter) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 18:03:04 -0600 Subject: Re: other animals in the kats universe >What about other animals. I dunno if anyone else who saw this remembers, but >in S.K.I.Q., one of trivia question's answer choices was "dog drool." (they >showed a picture of the cement machine gun and asked what they were >shhoting.) In Chance's story, there are lions, tigers, and bears (oh my!) >wich escape, and basically start the main plot. Are there dogs and stuff >there? And what about *humans?* Where does *our* species fit in? A definete >fanfic idea is here, anyone wanna try making it into a story? Well, from the cartoon alone there are Kats, lizards (Viper mutation), bats (I'm calling the Kreeplings a form of bat.), bacteria, whatever Mutilor was, and insects. These are all I can come up from memory. David Minter mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net ( What an original signature! ) From CNbL@aol.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: CNbL@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 19:47:27 -0500 Subject: Re: other animals in the kats universe >Well, from the cartoon alone there are Kats, lizards (Viper mutation), >bats (I'm calling the Kreeplings a form of bat.), bacteria,whatever Mutilor >was, and insects. These are all I can come up from memory. Don't forget fish! (Tuna) ...>And what about *humans?* Where does *our* species fit in? A definete >fanfic idea is here, anyone wanna try making it into a story? Hmm, I might give it a go. If anyone wants to contribute to it, please do! From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 17:12:47 -0800 Subject: Re: Fan Mail People needed? > Also, a while back someone suggested doing an episode where he trapped the Swat Kats in a VR universe (to cut animation costs, I think) - does anyone mind me doing this as a piece of fan-fic? (Is anyone already doing it?) > > Seeya! Go for it...you could even work in the traffic helicopters! (inside joke...sorry). _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 17:25:59 -0800 Subject: Re: What's your favorite SK character? >What is the reason they choose Callie to replace the "policewoman" ? could >it be that Callie and Felina is the same kat ? but divided into two kats. Oh, they aren't the same Kat by a longshot. Callie wasn't put in there to appease the .fandom drooler faction of the viewership - it looks as though they figured she'd attract the younger female audience more than would 'Felina' as she was conceived at that time. Another indication that Turner really had no idea concerning the makeup of the audience. >I like the first helichopter scene of "Mutation City", they should have >more like that, that could make Felina and Callie a little bit closer and >work as a team. That was a fine scene, as was the "Obstacle Course" scene with Razor and T-Bone from the opener. "Mutation City" remains one of my favourite eps because of it (though all of them are in the "A" category for me anyway). _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 17:32:56 -0800 Subject: Re: other animals in the kats universe >What about other animals. I dunno if anyone else who saw this remembers, but >in S.K.I.Q., one of trivia question's answer choices was "dog drool." (they >showed a picture of the cement machine gun and asked what they were >shhoting.) In Chance's story, there are lions, tigers, and bears (oh my!) >wich escape, and basically start the main plot. Are there dogs and stuff >there? And what about *humans?* Where does *our* species fit in? A definete >fanfic idea is here, anyone wanna try making it into a story? All us neighbourhood old-timers went over the various other creatures that live in the Kat world some time back, but a brief recap includes frogs, cats (no da...), snakes, tigers, fish, and a few other members of the food chain. Humans were left specifically out of the equation to keep you guessing where and when the events of the Kat world take place, and Lance Falk's attempts to have humans appear at the end of "When Strikes Mutilor" as Star Trek-style explorers instead of the Aquians were killed by the production folks who told him "nah...just make them cat aliens". Lance wasn't a happy kat. I had another fanfic idea along those lines, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea to "limit" possibilities by writing it. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From GVVY03C@Prodigy.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: GVVY03C@Prodigy.com (B-KO DAITOKUJI) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 20:19:16 EST Subject: Re: What's your favorite character? Yes, I've begun the idea on a Felina fanfic, probably limked to one of the sries that I'm writing, called "Felina will be the death of me. " hope I have time to, somehow, I've got about six things I'm working on at once! From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 17:20:22 -0800 Subject: Re: Steel's name, and Kristmas Kats >Ahhhh...no. Greenhorn's not his name. Greenhorn is what Feral was calling >him. A greenhorn is someone who is very new and inexperienced at something. >Feral was basically calling him a rookie. Yep, yet more proof that the Western is Dead. I think people believe John Ford made the Mustang. >Now.... > >With the upcoming holiday season, I began to wonder about how such a thing >would be handled in MegaKat City. Do they have an equivalent of Christmas? >Religion is never discussed in cartoons, heavens no, but would they have >an equivalent secular holiday? All this led to images in my head of the >Turbokat hauling a sleigh behind it. Cool...another great scene comes to mind; Jake and Chance exchanging gifts on Christmas morning in the J&C Garage...maybe one Kat is into the trappings of the season and the other isn't? One is a sentimental sap stringing Christmas lights everywhere while the other cranks up either Litterbin or Skaredy Kat to drown out the Jingle Bells? One Kat might like the snow and the other consider it more trouble for Thundertruck than it's worth? Possiblities abound! What do you think they'd get eachother? Or Callie? or Feral? (...or Dark Kat?) >Makes me wonder if the Brothers Tremblay ever had anything in the backs of >their minds about this. They seemed to think Christmas was important enough to park all their current efforts and take off to Montreal and spend Christmas with the relatives. That's pretty cool. I'm sure it would've crept in during later eps had Ted given them that extra scoop of coal for the fire. >Samuel Conway, Ph.D. >Senior Fat Jolly Old Guy in a Red Suit Bah! Humbug! (somewhere near Dusseldorf, I think...) _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 17:35:22 -0800 Subject: Re: Steel's name, and Kristmas Kats > Well, I think we already have it here in our own dimension. It's >called "The Jingle Cats." :> But, that made me think. Wouldn't "Jingle >Bells" be interesting if done on a synthesizer, ala "Jingle Cats," using >Razor's "BINGO!" >Perhaps not. After all, I am irrevicably cracked... Oh man, can't you just visualize this? Razor and T-Bone singing "bingo, bingo, bingo, bingo.." with Callie on the pitch-pipe, and Feral, Steel and Manx doing three part harmony in backup! Heheheheh...gotta draw this one! _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 13:40:08 +0700 Subject: Re: What's your favorite SK character? >>Does anybody here want to write a fanfic story about Felina ? >I would, but Felina's not a big favorite of mine. (Don't start boo-ing me >yet. I've got more stories on the site than anyone 'cept Ryan.) Don't worry, I'm sure that someone will write about Felina soon. :-) >>PS: A question, what if Felina misses her shot at that scene ? >Callie gets toasted, and all her fans turn up for the funeral. > >Next question please. Ok, who are gonna shows up at her funeral ? (I mean the people on this list, and the other character from the series) >Terra Chang From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 13:40:05 +0700 Subject: Re: other animals in the kats universe Chance wrote: >Lance Falk's attempts to have humans appear at the end of "When Strikes >Mutilor" as Star Trek-style explorers instead of the Aquians were killed >by the production >folks who told him "nah...just make them cat aliens". Lance wasn't a >happy kat. >I had another fanfic idea along those lines, but I'm not sure if it's a >good idea to "limit" >possibilities by writing it. To have a human in a cartoon series that was devoted to animal characters, may look little bit strange. CNbL@aol.com wrote: >...>And what about *humans?* Where does *our* species fit in? A definete >>fanfic idea is here, anyone wanna try making it into a story? > >Hmm, I might give it a go. If anyone wants to contribute to it, please do! I have already have a character in my mind, my character it's a human from our dimension who happen to be stuck in MegaKat city by accidental dimension portal (Some sort of wormhole), and have to live there in artificial Kat body (ala the Metalikats) so that can fit in the kat enviroment (You don't want to be different from the others around you, do you ?). PS: *Our* species fit in _this universe_. From leetwail@iscs.nus.sg Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: Leet Wai Leong Simon Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 19:46:45 +0800 (GMT-8) Subject: Re: Kats in SwatKats that doesn't have a first name. On Sun, 17 Dec 1995, chance wrote: > >Heh. What about Kats with no _last_ name!?? Johnny (camerakat), Rob > >(chopper pilot), Burke, Murray, etc. > > And after you opened the can of worms, I get to confuse 'em a little. Just to make things > interesting, they throw some Kat guys with _two_ names into the mix: "Tiger Conklin", > "Dr. Leiter Greenbox", "Dr. En Zyme", "Mac Mange" etc. Heh ... when I first read "Mac Mange" the image of a very distasteful burger came to mind ... ;) On the topic of names though, why IS Felina referred to as such and not Lt. Feral? Seems like an odd breach of protocol. Oh, and any more neat little jokes or ideas behind other Kat names like "Mutilor" or "Kliban"? -Simon leet :) From flogistn@netaxs.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 11:39:28 -0500 Subject: Re: other animals in the kats universe Hrm. Someone please help out my poor failing memory. It's Alzheimer's, you know. The mind is the first thing to go. I ate too many meals out of aluminum pots, or something. Don't I recall the opening scene of one of the episodes featuring a dog (the four-legged bow-wow variety) barking at the approaching off-screen monster? Or am I just senile? Maybe it's time for the Home. ----- Samuel Conway, Ph.D. Senior Old Canine Rememberer Avid Therapeutics Philadelphia, PA flogistn@netaxs.com From fayxx001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: Timothy D Fay Date: Mon, 18 Dec 95 11:14:27 -0600 Subject: The Fanzine Just a quick note to everyone: Due to recent events I'm afraid that I will be unable to finish work on my proposed Swat Kats fanzine. I apologize to everyone who was interested in contributing. Mostly, it's just a matter of time, of which I don't have enough. Among other things, my supervisor just got called up to go to Germany to support the Bosnia operation, so I now find myself doing my job, along with most of his. :) If anyone else would like to put together some sort of Kats fanzine, I would be very much interested in helping out in any way that I can. Again, my apologies and thanks to those who were interested. -Tim From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 10:11:56 -0800 Subject: Re: other animals in the kats universe >Hrm. Someone please help out my poor failing memory. It's Alzheimer's, >you know. The mind is the first thing to go. I ate too many meals out of >aluminum pots, or something. > >Don't I recall the opening scene of one of the episodes featuring a dog >(the four-legged bow-wow variety) barking at the approaching off-screen >monster? > >Or am I just senile? Maybe it's time for the Home. Hmmm...from memory I'd say it was from "Mutation City" but I'll probably go check the tape lest we wind up in the same Home comparing prescriptions. Hackle must've made too much tea in aluminum - or perhaps had a gallon or two more radiator-hooch than he should've...why put the Metallikats back together so many times? (unless it's meant to be an allegory for the bad uses to which good science has been put over the years?). _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 10:07:01 -0800 Subject: Re: Kats in SwatKats that doesn't have a first name. > >Heh ... when I first read "Mac Mange" the image of a very distasteful >burger came to mind ... ;) Would you like fries with that? On the topic of names though, why IS Felina >referred to as such and not Lt. Feral? Seems like an odd breach of >protocol. Oh, and any more neat little jokes or ideas behind other Kat >names like "Mutilor" or "Kliban"? Yup. "Kliban" is, of course, a reference to "Kliban's Cat"; a series of comic strips and compilations of same that had a lot of Cat-related humour - usually mute as I recall. "Mutilor" was the name of a Goldfish belonging to Lance Falk's director friend Chris Otsuki (currently working on the new "Casper" toon) who'd given his miniscule pets grandiose names like this and "Galactus" to help compensate for their relative insignificance in the food chain. Lance Falk also came up with "Turmoil", which is in itself an anagram of "Mutilor". Also check out in "The Origin of Dr. Viper" where the snake-to-be's name is given as "Elrod Purvis". Play with re-arranging the letters of "Elrod Purvis" a bit and you end up at "Dr.Viper" with letters to spare. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From erudnick@pica.army.mil Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: Ed Rudnicki Date: Mon, 18 Dec 95 19:19:09 EST Subject: Re: JQ vs. Cyber Insects >Of course they would! Only problem is that it wouldn't keep the word "Jonny" on >the tip of your tongue for the launch of "New Adventures of.." in '96. Turner's >piled a ton of money into this, and is backing up the release with a >merchandising campaign that'll put "Jonny" on everything from underwear to >ironing board covers. The direct quote (which I'm going to leave unattributed >to protect the innocent) goes: Some branch of TedCo has even put out a flyer touting JQ animation art, including material from "Silly Insects". I don't even want that stuff on my TV screen, let alone hanging on my wall. Ed From ben@gunk.demon.co.uk Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: Ben Carter Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 22:44:52 GMT Subject: Re: Kats in SwatKats that doesn't have a first name. In message you wrote: [snip] > Heh ... when I first read "Mac Mange" the image of a very distasteful > burger came to mind ... ;) On the topic of names though, why IS Felina > referred to as such and not Lt. Feral? Seems like an odd breach of > protocol. Oh, and any more neat little jokes or ideas behind other Kat > names like "Mutilor" or "Kliban"? I'm certain Felina is referred to as Lt. Feral several times - usually by Cmdr. Feral himself! I can't remember which episodes, though. I suppose the Swat Kats know her well enough to be on first-name terms... Although they do call Callie "Miss Briggs" most of the time... hmmm... Dunno about the last two, though, although "Mutilor" sounds like a stardard B-movie bad-guy name. -- Ben Carter +-------------------------------+ /---\ |Formerly c.carter@ulst.ac.uk...| ( . . )<- A Merp. Don't ask. |... now ben@gunk.demon.co.uk! | ( - ) (but buy the game anyway!) +-------------------------------+ \---/ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 18:07:01 -0800 Subject: Re: JQ vs. Cyber Insects >Some branch of TedCo has even put out a flyer touting JQ animation >art, including material from "Silly Insects". I don't even want that >stuff on my TV screen, let alone hanging on my wall. The evil part of me wants this revival to bomb Hiroshima-style, but America proves time and again that they'll watch anything, so Fondacom will likely get rich despite the fact that "Toby Danger" was far closer to Wildey's vision than any of this H-B drek. The CGI backgrounds in the new series *really* make me shudder, as does the terrible twosome of Takashi and Peter Lawrence - the top of who's resume is occupied by "Stone Protectors". Still, I suppose if you aren't in the market for thematic underwear and ironing board covers, you aren't the target demographic anyway, so the Ted and Jane show could probably care less. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 20:51:08 -0800 Subject: Re: JQ vs. Cyber Insects > >>Some branch of TedCo has even put out a flyer touting JQ animation >>art, including material from "Silly Insects". I don't even want that >>stuff on my TV screen, let alone hanging on my wall. > >The evil part of me wants this revival to bomb Hiroshima-style, but America proves time and >again that they'll watch anything, so Fondacom will likely get rich despite the fact that "Toby >Danger" was far closer to Wildey's vision than any of this H-B drek. The CGI backgrounds Sorry gang, didn't check the header and figured I was replying to Ed directly re my post to rec.arts.animation. I forgot I'd forwarded bits to the list. Two things while I'm here. I finally picked up "Deadly Dr. Viper" at a Canadian K-Mart (complete with those foully coloured transfers), but not only is it the Canadian pressing sans the "Clawmarks" across the House of Turner logo, but it's also defective: one channel of audio cuts out, then the damn thing gets stuck in an endless hunt/track/correct loop. Anyone else have this, or is my luck still holding out? (i.e., "all bad"). Next. I forwarded a paraphrased version of the "toonnet" guy's comments about the merger of HB/WB to WB Animation for comments. I hope to have some kind of concrete reply shortly. Later. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:58:03 +0700 Subject: Re: What's your favorite character? >Yes, I've begun the idea on a Felina fanfic, probably limked to one >of the series that I'm writing, called "Felina will be the death of me." Felina will be the death of me?? who say that ? >hope I have time to, somehow, I've got about six things I'm working >on at once! Are this six is part of the Midnight Magic series ? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 22:00:24 +0700 Subject: Re: Kats in SwatKats that doesn't have a first name. >In message >you wrote: > >[snip] >>On the topic of names though, why IS Felina >> referred to as such and not Lt. Feral? Seems like an odd breach of >> protocol. > > I'm certain Felina is referred to as Lt. Feral several times - usually by >Cmdr. Feral himself! I can't remember >which episodes, though. I suppose >the Swat Kats know her well enough to be on first-name terms... Or could be that Felina want to be call Lt.Felina instead of Lt.Feral, there's some people that like using their first name instead of their last name. >Although they do call Callie "Miss Briggs" most of the time... hmmm... Formalities, although Razor almost call her Callie at "The Metalikats" when they is outside city hall. From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 07:41:07 -0800 Subject: Re: Kats in SwatKats that doesn't have a first name. >>Although they do call Callie "Miss Briggs" most of the time... hmmm... > >Formalities, although Razor almost call her Callie at "The Metalikats" >when they is outside city hall. Yeah, they only refer to the Deputy Mayor as "Callie" when she's not present it seems. Also, I think Callie has too much hair in her ears. Razor sounds exactly the same saying "Miss Briggs" either in or out of the flight suit, yet Callie doesn't pick up on it. Same can't be said for T-Bone, as his delivery is quite different when he's "Chance" because it tends to be a bit more laid back and less gruff. Best ep to see this is probably "The Giant Bacteria" when he says something like "lets check the news" or similar after dumping Morbulus into Megakat Bay. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 17:27:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: other animals in the kats universe At 04:07 PM 12/17/95 -0600, you wrote: >What about other animals. I dunno if anyone else who saw this remembers, but Well, we definately know that there are Real animals: Cows (Giant Bacteria) Tuna (various factories being blown up) Frogs & Snakes (Mutation City) Insects (Ci-kat-a & Origin of Dr. V) Scorpions (Caverns of Horror) Make-believe: Giant Eels (Bride of the Pastmaster) Creeplings (Wrath of D.K. among others) Plantimals (Destructive Nature) Dragons (Bride of the Pastmaster) Extinct: Saber-toothed Kat (Pastmaster Always Rings Twice) Dinosaurs of some sort (also P.A.R.T) I can't remember if there was a bird cage in the "Gremlins" shop in "Enter the Madkat" when Ringtail found the Madkat box.. That's all I can come up with.. From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 17:45:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: I GOT MY PRIZE!!!! I got my prize. "DO NOT FOLD" was all over the package. There was a drawing of T-Bone that said: "Hey Mailman! This is a gift for A.J., so don't mess with it!" Inside was a letter. And encloased was an animation cell. It's the one where they say "yes" and do a thumbs up. I can't remember which ep. They said mine was the first to be recieved, so I got the first prize! Anyone else get theirs? A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 17:28:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Steel's name, and Kristmas Kats [snip] >What do you think they'd get eachother? Or Callie? or Feral? (...or Dark Kat?) Jake gives Chance a set of "Scaredy Kat" videos to watch instead of those old MegaWar 2 videos. Chance gives Jake a brand-new soldering iron with variable heat control & cool-touch grip. A bottle of Malox & a stress reduction video for Feral. Hmm.. perhaps something from "Katrina's Secret" for Callie.. >They seemed to think Christmas was important enough to park all their current efforts and >take off to Montreal and spend Christmas with the relatives. That's pretty cool. I'm sure it >would've crept in during later eps had Ted given them that extra scoop of coal for the fire. And for being such a bad boy, a lump of coal for Ted. ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:05:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Who did what? Which eps. did Mook and Huang Ho do? I know mook did night of dark kat and all the second season, but what about 1st season? A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 17:27:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats >>>Thanks for writing and inquiring about the Swat Kats! Unfortunately, the only >>>response that I found when inquiring about Hanna-Barbera stopping production >>>on the Swat Kats was that it did not do well in the ratings. >>Heh. I _did_ ask if the merger between TW & Turner would affect the control >>that TPS has over HB. Of course, they just keep pushing Jon & WPT :P >Double "heh"...I think I'm going to forward a snippet of this to Warners if there aren't >any objections. The "pushing Jon & WPT" theme seems hauntingly reminiscent of that >ABA convention awhile back where Turner reps brushed off Kats as "not a current property >we're pursuing" and kept trying to drift the topic back on to Jonny and the WPT's. Well, at >least they're consistent. Please! I would be more than happy if you sent this along to WB! Perhaps we've been approaching this from the wrong direction. I think WB knows what quality animation & storytelling is (i.e. SK)-- and maybe they will respond to the fans' questions. As long as TPS keeps ignoring the same question, they never have to answer it. WB doesn't even know what the questions are -- yet! ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 17:54:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Lt. Steele & Razor Hmm.. I'm watching "Enter the Madkat" right now and noticed that Razor & Lt. Steele _did_ meet face-to-face! When TB & R walk into Feral's office and Steele's sitting behind the desk -- they don't actually speak directly to each other, but they do see each other. Also near the end when TB & R finally rescue everyone, Steele is there trying to blame them for destroying the city (as usual). However, they still don't say anything to each other. ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:08:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Kats in SwatKats that doesn't have a first name. >>[snip] >>>On the topic of names though, why IS Felina >>> referred to as such and not Lt. Feral? Seems like an odd breach of >>> protocol. >> >> I'm certain Felina is referred to as Lt. Feral several times - usually by >>Cmdr. Feral himself! I can't remember >which episodes, though. I suppose >>the Swat Kats know her well enough to be on first-name terms... > >Or could be that Felina want to be call Lt.Felina instead of Lt.Feral, >there's some people that like using their first name instead of their last >name. > It may simply be because the writers don't want to confuse the audience with the only difference heard being "commander" or "lieutenant" before the name. ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:02:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: JQ vs. Cyber Insects >Two things while I'm here. I finally picked up "Deadly Dr. Viper" at a Canadian K-Mart >(complete with those foully coloured transfers), but not only is it the Canadian pressing >sans the "Clawmarks" across the House of Turner logo, but it's also defective: one channel >of audio cuts out, then the damn thing gets stuck in an endless hunt/track/correct loop. > >Anyone else have this, or is my luck still holding out? (i.e., "all bad"). Sorry Chance, the videos that I picked up come through loud & clear in full stereo. No problem with the tracking either. Sounds like the dubbing house didn't do a very good job. >Next. I forwarded a paraphrased version of the "toonnet" guy's comments about the merger of >HB/WB to WB Animation for comments. I hope to have some kind of concrete reply shortly. Heh. I can't wait to hear about this one! Could you imagine if the suits at WB take a look at SK and then ask Ted, "What the H*LL were you thinking!!? We've got a _goldmine_ here!" (Speaking as if _I_ were a marketer.) ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 19:51:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Shadow of the Red Lynx in progress.... Here's what I have so far. tell me what you think! Also, this should be less than 6K so it should be okay to post. Tell me if I should change or have any ideas. Thanks. "Shadow of the Red Lynx" ------------------------------------------------------------------- by A.J. Freda SysOp of TurboKat BBS and (ah518@leo.nmc.edu) TurboKat BBS 616-922-1733 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Noontime at MegaKat City. The Enforcers have just finished hauling the Blue Manx jet out of MegaKat bay. They take it to Enforcer Headquarters to get it restored. One week later... After extensive work on the Blue Manx, it finally is restored. Mayor Manx was quite upset that he had to sink $1 billion of the city treasury into repairing it. It was damaged very badly from when it was shot down by Mayor Manx a year ago. Feral couldn't wait to try out the Blue Manx and show off to the SWAT Kats. It was getting late, so they left the repair room where the jet was sitting. Feral left three guards to guard it overnight. He didn't want anything to happen to it like it did with the Red Lynx. At approximately midnight, Dark Kat's Creeplings sneak into the repair room with Dark Kat trailing behind. The Creeplings shut off all the security and knock the three guards unconsious. Dark Kat gets into the Blue Manx, takes off and heads back to his hideout. "Soon I will be able to destroy Enforcer Headquarters with my high-explosive detonator!" says Dark Kat. Any ideas/comments will be appriciated. Even bad comments! Please! send everything! A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From lsetnor@got.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: lsetnor@got.net (Leslie Setnor) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:39:51 -0800 Subject: Re: Steel's name, and Kristmas Kats >Hmm.. perhaps something from "Katrina's Secret" for Callie.. > But who would give it to her, Jake and Chance or T-Bone and Razor? Karen Setnor lsetnor@got.net mcjd61b@prodigy.com Gargoyles.SWATKats.SavageDragon.TheMaxx.Exosquad.Batman.TheTick.Eek.ReBoot From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:42:10 -0800 Subject: Re: I GOT MY PRIZE!!!! >I got my prize. "DO NOT FOLD" was all over the package. There was a >drawing of T-Bone that said: "Hey Mailman! This is a gift for A.J., so >don't mess with it!" Inside was a letter. And encloased was an animation >cell. It's the one where they say "yes" and do a thumbs up. I can't >remember which ep. They said mine was the first to be recieved, so I got >the first prize! Anyone else get theirs? Hey, right on A.J! I don't know how many cels Christian still had kicking around to give away in the contest, but I suppose he has one less now, huh? Is that the same scene of Razor and T-Bone in the Turbokat doin' the Thumbs Up that we used to get in those interstitials on TBS? Christian would've likely come up with some more stuff, but I couldn't get any press or airtime during SwatKats on TCN to help promote it. Atlanta wouldn't have been amused anyway, as though those cels were Christian's to do with as he pleased, Turnerco isn't interested in promoting the Kitties and I think TPS hopes we'll all go away like a bad dream. If my high-up friend at Warners ends up in any kind of position to influence H-B after the merger (???), maybe TCN could be convinced to run a similar contest of their own. That should help define the difference between the viewership of something quality like the Kats, as opposed to "something" like the Pat Ventura stuff (though Pat's evidently pretty cool, "Yukky Duck" and ilk are leading Turner down a road that very few people are interested in following). (Oh yeah, Fred Seibert at H-B announced awhile ago that the first WPT to become a series will be "Dexter's Lab", and I heard earlier that "Shake and Flick" would be the second. Odd behaviour for an outfit who were in such a hurry to kill series TV after "SwatKats" and "Two Stupid Dogs", huh?) _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:54:57 -0800 Subject: Re: Steel's name, and Kristmas Kats >[snip] > >>What do you think they'd get eachother? Or Callie? or Feral? (...or Dark Kat?) >Jake gives Chance a set of "Scaredy Kat" videos to watch instead of those >old MegaWar 2 videos. Hey, what's wrong with MegaWar2 videos? I have a bunch! Didja know that "Scaredy Kat" is an actual cartoon in the Real World? (and as soon as I find out where that is, I'll let you know.) >Chance gives Jake a brand-new soldering iron with variable heat control & >cool-touch grip. Got me one of them. Still burns the paws if you leave it on "high" for more than half an hour though. Can't ace the bad-Kats from the Weapons panel with singed fur...you might hit Atlanta by accident. >A bottle of Malox & a stress reduction video for Feral. Feral basically needs anything with lots of fibre...you know, "Feral looks like he hasn't hit the litterbox in a week!" Manx needs either the missing half of his brain, or a new set of golf clubs...and K-Mart's all out of brains. He also needs one of those pocket "Siamese/Megakat" translators so he can more clearly convey the concept of Megakat Towers being decidely uninhabitable. The Investors just don't seem to get the hint. >Hmm.. perhaps something from "Katrina's Secret" for Callie.. Callie needs at least one change of clothes...maybe she'd look somewhat cool in an evening gown or something during a future episode. It would be kind of interesting to see them all invited to some kind of large MegaKat City social function - you know, where they'd all have to dress up. Can you imagine either Jake or Chance in a *tie*? Dunno about Jake, but I'm sure Chance would agree with me when I say that "a tie is essentially a Noose with an attitude". Heh. >>They seemed to think Christmas was important enough to park all their >current efforts and >>take off to Montreal and spend Christmas with the relatives. That's pretty >cool. I'm sure it >>would've crept in during later eps had Ted given them that extra scoop of >coal for the fire. > >And for being such a bad boy, a lump of coal for Ted. That's okay, for the Southern Man who has everything, it looks as though Ted might get an ouster for Christmas. Don't you just love the rumour mill? _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 19:32:56 -0800 Subject: Re: JQ vs. Cyber Insects >>Next. I forwarded a paraphrased version of the "toonnet" guy's comments >about the merger of >>HB/WB to WB Animation for comments. I hope to have some kind of concrete >reply shortly. > >Heh. I can't wait to hear about this one! Could you imagine if the suits at >WB take a look at SK and then ask Ted, "What the H*LL were you thinking!!? >We've got a _goldmine_ here!" (Speaking as if _I_ were a marketer.) Warners has got their own problems lately, but mostly due to an optimistic "80 percent" coverage level as opposed to what they used to have on Fox. They're obviously looking forward to gaining access to "The Cartoon Network", and I think the fate of two of their shows is hanging in the balance waiting to see if the merger deal finally becomes concrete. Some of the industry types I've talked to over the course of a year really like the Kats, others don't - but that same ratio would apply to any program you asked their opinion of. Pretty much all of them agree that cancellation was a really bonehead play though, and the dissenters only really agree with it based on believing that the incompetence displayed by Turner marketing would likely continue and kill Hanna-Barbera altoghether. Nobody this year has any bona-fide hits, and new eps of the Kats on a network like Fox would've killed everything for miles and left a really big crater. WB is currently developing "Superman:The Animated Series" but it's *woefully* behind schedule. CBS' ac/adv efforts last year in the Jim Lee/Marvel vein all bombed, and this is the last year (rumouredly) for "X-Men", and certainly the last for BTAS. "SwatKats" in this market with second-season production values and the odd OAV to help promote it? Unreal...I'd put lottery winnings into that scheme. If "The New Adventures of Jonny Quest" bombs for Turner Programming Services - that's it. All their eggs are in one basket, and I doubt Time-Warner will be that interested in trying to clean up the resulting mess. (heck, if I got paid by the word, *I'd* be Ted Turner. I'd just divorce Hanoi Jane and ditch the 'stache...) _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 19:32:51 -0800 Subject: Re: SWAT Kats >Please! I would be more than happy if you sent this along to WB! Perhaps >we've been approaching this from the wrong direction. I think WB knows what >quality animation & storytelling is (i.e. SK)-- and maybe they will respond >to the fans' questions. As long as TPS keeps ignoring the same question, >they never have to answer it. WB doesn't even know what the questions are >-- yet! Okay, I've stripped off the header and forwarded the pertinent bits. Actually, many Warners people (and a high-up at Disney Marketing) pissed themselves laughing at Tedco when Kats got axed. I mean, H-B has three scripts already written and storyboarded, and the only thing preventing them from being finished is a postage stamp and a plane heading to Japan. And, of course, mentality that thinks we'll put up with "Magilla Gorilla" reruns now that we've seen what H-B is capable of doing. For the record, TPS has given the following "reasons" in public... "Fans weren't buying enough...(nonexistent)...merchandise" "We weren't picked up for a third season...(yes, but what about completing the second?)" "The ratings weren't good enough" (translation: most of the kats run was 4:35 am West of the Mississippi) E-mail reasons mailed "anonymously" to me included: "Turner hated the program" (borne out by some comments to a comix industry type at San Diego Comicon by a Turner rep). "It was too violent" (Turner cancelled plans to produce the extremely violent "Nexus" after spending a mint acquiring the rights...) "Certain people were in for a promotion and a big raise if they got the green light for 65 - as was promised if the second season was completed and aired...(or similar, I forget the exact wording and I'm too lazy to look it up)." So, I guess the "Toonnet" guy would be running into the same firewall that the rest of us have. If I can find archived Neilsens, I'll have a go at pulling the records for the halfway decent timeslots. Canada didn't get the series AT ALL (unless you have pay-cable), which can't have helped much in terms of N.American figures. (Man, I'm ranting today, huh?) _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 19:53:37 -0800 Subject: Re: Who did what? >Which eps. did Mook and Huang Ho do? I know mook did night of dark kat >and all the second season, but what about 1st season? Hanho Heung-Up did everything from the first season except for "The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice", "Night of the Dark Kat", "Metal Urgency" and "Katastrophe". The executive powers-that-be had to practically be begged to use Mook for the episodes given to them despite the fact they were actually *cheaper* than Hanho! (I'll ask Dana to update the FAQ). Tremblays were really impressed with Mook's stuff, as was Lance Falk - who combed Mook's Japanese Features to demonstrate what he wanted the big blast from "Unlikely Alloys" to look like. Lance, the Tremblays and Davis Doi were all pleasantly surprised by the result, as the nuclear-type blast in "Unlikley" was actually *better* than the Mook Feature scene which inspired it. (...and if I ever get finished typing the "Animato!" kats article from #32, we can all be as smart as I think you think I think I am...or some junk). _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 20:08:07 -0800 Subject: Re: Fanfic idea ... Here's a scene from something I'm writing as it comes to me (hopefully approaching something like a linear story during the holidays). I'm going to steer clear of a roughly similar story in the works by our Simon Leet, and this actually represents the equivalent of a "thumbnail" sketch sent earlier to Simon to make sure our stories won't collide. Lemme know what you think! (Yeah, even "don't quit your day job" is welcome). ___________________________BEGIN__________________________________ I had some vague idea of a Feral having a highly publicized falling out with either Callie or Mayor Manx shortly before some catastrophe befalls Megakat City, apparently attributable to some Enforcer weaponry that ended up in the wrong hands. The conclusion jumpers will be able to trace Feral as the Kat who was supposed to destroy the surplus weapons, with the strong implication being that he aided and abetted the forces of villainry to "get back" at Manx. My two "heavy" scenes would be Razor and T-Bone sneaking into Feral's holding cell at night, and later at the rather "Fixed" trial later. (again, essentially the result of a political up-and-comer from within the ranks of the Enforcers or elsewhere responsible for the frame-job). The after-hours jail cell scene would go something like this. Feral's lying on the bunk in the darkened jail-cell staring blankly off into space under the weight of his predicament. He doesn't react to the sudden appearance of Razor and T-Bone at the bars, but is fully aware of their presence all the same. "Come to gloat, vigilantes?" asked Feral without either turning to look at them or taking any interest whatsoever at the turn of events. The Kat guys look at each other, then at Feral, saying nothing. "Ironic, isn't it? I'm in here like a caged animal while you two lawless vigilantes remain free to inflict carnage and destruction throughout my city at will...take a good, long look - then get out." T-Bone and Razor stared at each other wondering who would be first to ask the unavoidable question. Razor took the initiative. "Commander...._did_ you do it?" Feral got up slowly from the cot, nonchalantly dusted himself off, and lunged toward Razor, grabbing the cell bars and leaning in to drive home his point. "DO YOU EVEN NEED TO ASK!!". T-Bone, alarmed by the sudden increase in volume, ran toward the cell-block door and checked for activity in the hallway. He signalled "all clear" to Razor, and returned to his position at the bars. "Yes, Commander...I think we do" added T-Bone. Feral sat down on the cot trying to retain his composure but was obviously dejected at the almost universal lack of faith. "It seems that you also have convicted and sentenced me before the trial, as vigilantes tend to do...." "..Just as YOU have done to US?" growled Razor, the glint of teeth visible in the shadows. "It would seem, "Commander", that you *still* don't recognize an ally when you see one...." ***Ehh..needs work, but you get the idea. After this scene, the Kat guys will either break Feral out of jail or enlist the help of Felina and Callie - I haven't really decided, but I kind of want to go the "breakout" route just so they're forced to work together. Lots of great possibilities there. The "Trial" scene isn't really even at the germination stage currently - a lot of it depends on the events that would've occurred immediately subsequent to the proceedings above. *** _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From fayxx001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: Timothy D Fay Date: Tue, 19 Dec 95 22:09:34 -0600 Subject: Re: I GOT MY PRIZE!!!! >From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Dec 19 20:55 CST 1995 >Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:42:10 -0800 >X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net >Mime-Version: 1.0 >To: kats@bort.mv.net >From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) >Subject: Re: I GOT MY PRIZE!!!! Chance wrote: >...as opposed to "something" like the Pat Ventura stuff (though Pat's >evidently pretty cool, "Yukky Duck" and ilk are leading Turner down a >road that very few people are interested in following... ...And we can all be thankful for that. The two "Yukky Duck" cartoons, along with the two new "George and Junior" shorts, are the worst abominations I have had the displeasure of watching in a very long time. George and Junior, especially, since it trashes a very funny series of cartoons directed by Tex Avery. "Yukky" is the word, all right... >(Oh yeah, Fred Seibert at H-B announced awhile ago that the first WPT to >become a series will be "Dexter's Lab", and I heard earlier that "Shake >and Flick" would be the second. I didn't think those two shorts were that popular. Then again, I would not have figured anyone could stomach more than a microsecond of Yukky Duck. It's too bad the Powerpuff Girls didn't get their own show--that was a pretty funny WPT. -Tim From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 21:15:44 -0800 Subject: Re: I GOT MY PRIZE!!!! >I didn't think those two shorts were that popular. Then again, I would >not have figured anyone could stomach more than a microsecond of Yukky >Duck. It's too bad the Powerpuff Girls didn't get their own show--that >was a pretty funny WPT. So was "Yoink of the Yukon" evidently, though I didn't catch it. When "SwatKats" was cancelled, the Turner org kept trying to put a positive spin on things though they were rather obviously trying to slash budgets everywhere. "SwatKats" and WPT producer Buzz Potamkin recently posted to rec.arts.animation that a "certain show...(the budget of) went north of $700,000 for a single episode..". I wrote him back and suggested that he was perhaps alluding to "The Deadly Pyramid", and he didn't deny it. When Tedco canned the series production of "Two Stupid Dogs" and the 'Kat guys, they laid off a whole whack of people as "not being necessary to current projects", or "specializing in an art style we have no current use for". One of them was a 30 year-pin man by the name of Tony Sgroi, who probably could've lent an immeasurable amount of talent to the sorrier of the WPT's - as he had done to Jonny Quest and Kats before them - if only he hadn't also come equipped with 30 years seniority in the union and a payscale to match. Turner kept pitching the WPT's as some kind of philanthropic program to "help struggling artists get shorts made that otherwise would never get done" or similar, now the focus appears to be shifting away from this kind of idealism to using the "What a Cartoon" and "WPT" programs as a breeding ground for cheap, easily exploitable splatterfests without undue consideration for the kind of quality evident in the Kats. Hanna-Barbera pretty much washed it's hands of the "Hanna-Barberian" imagery earned with many pre-Kats efforts in the seventies, now Turner appears bent on not only restoring the sorry rep, but one-upping it in the process. "Yukky" indeed. (ain't it funny that the kind of junk that the 'Kat guys watch on the tube in the form of "Scaredy Kat" actually ended up replacing them in the hearts and minds of Turnercom? Irony's a bitch.) _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 13:43:58 +0700 Subject: Re: Steel's name, and Kristmas Kats >>Hmm.. perhaps something from "Katrina's Secret" for Callie.. > >But who would give it to her, Jake and Chance or T-Bone and Razor? How about if the sender is never known by her? or even to us? it just says "anonymous" on the box. >Karen Setnor From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 13:43:53 +0700 Subject: Re: What's your favorite SK character? >>What is the reason they choose Callie to replace the "policewoman" ? could >>it be that Callie and Felina is the same kat ? but divided into two kats. > >Oh, they aren't the same Kat by a longshot. Yeah, but they look like they were relate to something, maybe if some of their personalities were join the "policewoman" will appear , of course this is my opinion, so you can electrify me with a "Megavolt" missile if you like. (BTW, how the "policewoman" supposed to act in some sort of situation? I'm curious if the "policewoman" do appear) >Callie wasn't put in there to appease the >fandom drooler faction of the viewership - it looks as though they figured >she'd attract >the younger female audience more than would 'Felina' as she was conceived >at that time. Yeah, but it seems that they should bring Felina from day one, Callie couldn't attract the younger female audience if she was force to handle them, the SwatKats, Feral, Manx, and the Villain at the same time, having Felina could bring her burden a little bit easier. (The Callie in "A bright and shiny future" seems can attract the audience that you mention before, but SwatKats aren't supposed to attract that kind of audience) >Another indication that Turner really had no idea concerning the makeup of >the audience. Definetly ! From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 13:56:35 +0700 Subject: Re: Steel's name, and Kristmas Kats >>Hmm.. perhaps something from "Katrina's Secret" for Callie.. > >Callie needs at least one change of clothes...maybe she'd look somewhat >cool in an evening >gown or something during a future episode. Got a vision of that, but have to erase it out of my mind, it just too distubing, my mind just couldn't handle it. >It would be kind of interesting to see them all >invited to some kind of large MegaKat City social function - you know, >where they'd all >have to dress up. Can you imagine either Jake or Chance in a *tie*? >Dunno about Jake, but >I'm sure Chance would agree with me when I say that "a tie is essentially >a Noose with an >attitude". Heh. Yes I can imagine that, I was imagining that they were attending some sort dance party, and at the end they decided to leave the party in their own style. From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:15 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 08:15:49 -0800 Subject: Word back from WB... Too early to say what form this will take, but someone at WB confirms that H-B and WBA will be merging. Further updates as events warrant (damn, never *could* do Walter Cronkite properly...) _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 09:10:37 -0800 Subject: Re: What's your favorite SK character? > >Yeah, but they look like they were relate to something, maybe if some of >their personalities were join the "policewoman" will appear , of course >this is my opinion, so you can electrify me with a "Megavolt" missile if >you like. Nope. You just about nailed it, I think. Callie represents the cross between a strong role model and a Barbie Doll, but Felina really only manages to put across "tough broad". If I was on the development team, I think I'd worry that while "Felina" was obviously a strong role model, "Callie" was more likely to be emulated by the nine-year old girl set looking for a hero than would be Felina in the same circumstances. "Callie" could still appeal to the princess 'n' pony set on some level, but would also keep the little girls who wanted "to be like her when I grow up" interested without unnecessarily limiting themselves to "Policewoman" in the bargain. I think that's why "Callie" was chosen over Felina to begin with. Later on as the series progressed, they perhaps wanted to have a female character take on a more direct role in the action, but couldn't picture Callie crawling through the muck on her elbows holding a rocket launcher - hence Felina's role. They ended up with the best of both worlds, but obviously found it difficult to incorporate both strong female characters in a single :22 ep without having the effort result in fairly minor scenes like the Helicopter rescue in "Mutation City". >Yeah, but it seems that they should bring Felina from day one, Callie >couldn't attract the younger female audience if she was force to handle >them, the SwatKats, Feral, Manx, and the Villain at the same time, having >Felina could bring her burden a little bit easier. >(The Callie in "A bright and shiny future" seems can attract the audience >that you mention before, but SwatKats aren't supposed to attract that kind >of audience) Really, anybody that tells you that the character models aren't designed in part to appeal to the "Jessica Rabbit" set hasn't spent much time visiting our lovely planet. They won't admit it, of course, but a ratings point is a ratings point, and a viewer a viewer - irrespective of what makes them tune in every week. Sad perhaps, but also true. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 03:04:13 +0700 Subject: which character that you choose? If you were stuck at the MegaKat city hall roof, and have to spend the whole night there, which character do you choose for your companion? I think my opinion is the same as Tim and Ed, of course this only speculation, so I could be wrong. Oh yeah A.J., if you choose the creeplings, that's cheating!, they could fly you to the ground, and that will surely invalidate the question. :-) Oh yeah, if you choose one of the villain, OK! that will do too. :-) From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 18:56:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: which character that you choose? Ok, If I can't choose Creeplings, then how about the TurboKat? Use VTOL to get to the ground! :) Anyway, I'f spend it with Razor. He's the closest I can relate to. Also, I usually like the Creeplings when the get shot or beat up. I watched "Katastrophe" today and saw just that. I wonder if dark kat just uses them for sheilds? :) Well, okay. Change what I said. I still like them whether they get beat up or not. I just like their little "AHH!" screams. Creepling look best when _well_ animated. Mook does just that. They don't look as nice as in "Wrath of Dark Kat", which HunHo Hueng-Up did, or whoever. A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From CNbL@aol.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: CNbL@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 19:49:29 -0500 Subject: Re: Kats in SwatKats that doesn't have a first name. >I'm certain Felina is referred to as Lt. Feral several times - usually by Cmdr. Feral >himself! I suppose the SWAT Kats know her well enough to be on first-name terms... Most of the time the SWAT Kats call her Lt. Feral,but like Callie, it's Felina behind her back. From CNbL@aol.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: CNbL@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 22:29:46 -0500 Subject: Re: which character that you choose? >If you were stuck at the Megakat city hall roof, and have to spend the >whole night there, which character do you chose for your companion? Probably Felina (go fig). One of the 'Kats would attract too much attention(and they could use their glov-a-trix to get me down). Felina would be protection, and especially _company_(I don't think I could sleep a full night in Megakat City with all those wierdo villians running around). From razor@netcom.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 06:08:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: Kat-ching up... A few comments on some previous listmail (being out of town for a few days hasn't helped me here! ): My favorite SK character: I'd think my login handle as well as the other email addresses I use (razor@rat.org, jake@rat.org) kinda give away who it is. Interestingly enough, I've discovered that since I've started playing Razor on the MUCKs I've become more and more like him, especially where he loses his confidence in the episode "Razor's Edge". Matt writes: > Ah.. The spelling of Callie's name.. > I assume that she was orginally named "Calico Briggs" due to the reference > of a calico cat. Webster spells it "calico" with only one "l". My vote's > with Webster. Unless of course Lance Falk has other ideas! :) Well, the writers *could* be writing in a phonetic world, like they do in Disney TV Animation. I'm basing my spelling of Miz Briggs' name off one episode where a placard on her desk clearly shows it written with two 'l's. Edo writes: > Someone also said that [Razor and Steel(e)] also meet in "Enter the MadKat" > (another episode that I haven't watched) Affirmative. Actually, the characters in the office at the time are T-Bone, Razor, the Lieutenant, Callie Briggs and the one Kat who was robbed (was his name ever mentioned)? The "Twelve Days of Christmas," Kat-style: two claws-up! Maybe the song name should be changed to "The Twelve Days of Kats-mas"? More later... -- ================ Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 08:08:54 -0800 Subject: Re: which character that you choose? >>If you were stuck at the Megakat city hall roof, and have to spend the >>whole night there, which character do you chose for your companion? > (I don't think I could sleep a full night in Megakat City with all those wierdo villians running around). You mean Feral and Steele? Heh. I'd probably also pick Razor...he seems like a genuinely great individual the way he's written, and besides - Kats can sleep with one eye open watching for Creeplings, whereas I'd want to be kippin' out. I'd probably stay up all night anyway getting tips for arming my aircraft using parts from household appliances, or discussing why the Kat month appears to have six weeks. If he puts Litterbin on the wrist-TV though, he's roadkill. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 08:08:58 -0800 Subject: Last part of the Animato! article - Season Two ep guide "When are you gonna finish typing that stuff in, Christmas?!!" Um...not quite, but close. Here's the last part. It's not 92k, but hey..I try. **Standard season is normally 13 episodes, but Turner cancelled the series while H-B was in the middle of episode 11. Turner ordered the storyboards done and voice tracks laid for the remaining three episodes, but did not send them to Mook for animation. A description of these eps appears at the end of list, provided courtesy of ex-Kats designer Lance Falk. ___________________CUT HERE_________________________________ 14. MUTATION CITY Airdates: September 10/11, 1994 Written by Glenn Leopold Story concept by Christian and Yvon Tremblay Dr. Viper floods Megakat City with a "hideous mutating ooze" that transmogrifies ordinary animals into (what else?) giant monsters. With the city submerged in slime and infested by huge, repulsive creatures, the SWAT Kats undertake the perilous mission of reaching MegaKat Biochemical Labs, where they must retrieve an anti-mutagen that can change everything back to normal. Complications: 1. T-Bone, who can't swim, nearly drowns in the muck. 2. Later, T-Bone becomes a mutant when one of the monsters bites him. (T-Bone's having a bad day, isn't he?) 3. Viper eventually uses the mutagen to turn himself into a Godzilla-sized monstrosity. This is no classic, but it keeps your attention. It's also Felina Feral's first debut episode -- ironically, she's first seen rescuing Callie Briggs, whom she replaced as SWAT Kats' major heroine. B Trivia: Callie's communications link with the SWAT Kats is supposed to be a secret, but here she not only uses her communicator in front of Mayor Manx, but she also lets him us it as well. (My notes: Actually, after looking at this ep a number of times, it appears that Callie is using a police portable rather than anything resembling her special Kats transceiver which is rather more triangle shaped <"Pastmaster Always Rings Twice">. She hands it to Manx because it's more than likely he who handed it to *her* in the first place. I'll have to bug Mark about it.) 15. BRIGHT AND SHINY FUTURE Airdates: September 17/18, 1994 Written by Glenn Leopold The Pastmaster sends T-Bone and Razor to Megakat City's near future -- a nightmare world where The Metallikats rule as fascist dictators, killer robots confine "non-metallic creatures" to slave labor camps, the SWAT Kats' friends are fugitive freedom fighters, and the SWAT Kats' future selves are dead. This is one of the SWAT Kats' highlights; the story is intriguing, the team up of high-tech and magical villains is unique within the series, Mook's animation is excellent, and the art staff really did earn their pay in creating the dystopian setting. A. (My notes: This ep rather reminded me of "Red Dawn" and "Amerika" in the live-action world - possibly with a little "V" thrown in for good measure. I thought some of the "Callie" scenes were quite off-model, though Alison Leopold's background crew certainly *did* earn their pay in this and the other second season eps, and probably an Emmy besides. The "SwatKats" BG work is some of the best I've ever seen - especially the beautiful color work.) 16. WHEN STRIKES MUTILOR Airdates: September 24/25, 1994 Written by Lance Falk Story concept by Christian and Yvon Tremblay Mutilor (Michael Dorn), the four-armed, vaguely lobster-like leader of a pack of space pirates, plans to drain all the water from the SWAT Kats world and sell it to a desert planet. The SWAT Kats and the Enforcers (especially Felina Feral) defend their homeworld by engaging the aliens in an epic battle that begins over Megakat City and ends on Mutilor's spaceship (which he stole from a kat-like race of pacifists called the Aquians). This exciting episode moves like a shot; once Mutilor starts his attack, the action barely lets up till the end. The theatrical Mutilor is one of the SWAT Kats' most entertaining villains, and Traag (Christopher Smith), his syncophantic aide-de-camp, is also a fun character. One of the best episodes of SWAT Kats' second season. A. Trivia: "When Strikes Mutilor" is SWAT Kats' second alien invasion episode, and both here and in "The Ci-Kat-A", the writers go out of their way to avoid mentioning the name of the SWAT Kats' planet because they didn't want to raise the questions that might have resulted, such as what the world outside Megakat City was like, were there any intelligent species besides Kats, etc. (My Trivia: Before going to the Turner/H-B empire to pitch the concept of "SWAT Kats: The Radical Squadron", the Tremblay Bros. had submitted the idea to Disney Television. Disney studied the premise, then turned it down on the basis that "it won't work without humans" - curiously ignoring their own immediate history with the all-animal world of "Tale Spin" and others. I imagine that Disney was more in the mood for a "Gargoyles" type show, which of course they eventually produced with Greg Weisman). In-Jokes: Lance Falk derived the name "Mutilor" from an unusual source: some goldfish owned by his friend Chris Otsuki, now a director at Warner Bros. TV Animation (Me: um, actually, Chris is now working on Universal's "Casper" toon) "because they were such little, harmless, stupid-looking things, I gave them ridiculous, tough names." These included "Galactus" (after the 'Fantastic Four' villain), 'Bruno the Orangutroid' -- and 'Mutilor'. "Years later, I'm doing this show and I needed a name for this big, lobster-like villain, so I named him after Chris' goldfish because the name worked, so there's no point in not using it." ("In Jokes" from me: Mutilor's 2 I.C., "Traag", is probably cribbed from the Turtles' "General Traag"; likewise a right-hand-man of a major villain - in this case "Krang".) Lance Falk: After the SWAT Kats free the Aquians, their leader Captain Grimalkin (Michael Bell) tells the pilots that his peaceful crew won't help fight Mutilor. In the finished episode T-Bone replies, "Hey, I can respect that, but we have to get your ship out of Mutilor's hands. He's destroying our world!" Falk had intended T-Bone to criticize the Aquians: "You've got a responsibility to clean up after your own messes," he says to them in an early draft. "You made this dangerous toy, and this toy is going to kill us, so you'd better help us!" An H-B executive caused the scene to be changed. Also, Falk wanted to give "Mutilor" a provocative conclusion. "I thought the twist ending made the story like the Feral scene made 'Metal Urgency'. The pacifist aliens were originally all wearing helmets and you couldn't see what they looked like, because Mutilor took over their ship, and he changed the atmosphere to suit himself so it was poisonous to the actual owners of the ship, so they had to wear space suits. [The SWAT Kats] rally these aliens, they free the ship, they get the bad guy, and at the very end, the saucer's taking off and the little computer voice says, 'Okay, the environment's back to normal,' and the [aliens] look at each other and one says 'Wow! A planet of intelligent cats! How interesting!' and the other guy says, 'Well, it's a big universe. Anything is possible.' And they pop their helmets off and they're human! And then you back away and you see an American flag on the wall, and what you're seeing in one fell swoop is that SWAT Kats is absolutely [set] on another planet in the future. I thought that would have blown people out of their seats if they saw that, but one of the executives said 'Naaah, I don't get it. Just make them cat aliens.' And that cheesed me off quite a bit." (My notes: "When Strikes Mutilor" was first conceived with Megakat City's air supply as the target rather than the water, but was changed in an early draft. I think they wanted something more "visual", as it's somewhat hard to depict air vanishing aside from portraying a bunch of kats gasping out their last in what likely would've given BS&P a bad case of red ink) 17. RAZOR'S EDGE Airdates: October 29/30, 1994 Written by Mark Saraceni Razor's self-confidence is shattered when he believes that he injured two elderly civilians during a battle. Will he become discouraged enough to quit the SWAT Kats, leaving T-Bone to face Dark Kat's latest evil plot alone? Saraceni, co-developer to it's companion series "Two Stupid Dogs" (among others), brings a fresh approach to the series. His script emphasizes characterization ( a sadly rare occurrence on SWAT Kats), and acknowledges that the violence surrounding our heroes has to affect them sooner or later. Speaking of violence, Saraceni also offsets the usual trash-the-city mayhem with a funny, cleverly staged hospital fight scene. His only misstep is the tiresome plot device of Dark Kat having a stupid henchman who accidentally gives his scheme away. A ( My Notes: The writer of this ep, Mark Saraceni, evidently re-used the 'Razor's Edge' premise in an episode of "Biker Mice", though I don't watch the show and can't really tell you anything beyond that. Any ep with Razor in a character-dev situation is great in my book, and this one is definitely on the first page.) 18a. CRY TURMOIL Airdates: November 5/6, 1994 Written by Lance Falk Turmoil (Kath Soucie), a harshly beautiful villainess in a Nazi-like uniform, attempts to conquer the skies of Megakat City with a powerful airship, a squadron of female fighter pilots and a disorienting "vertigo beam". When T-Bone withstands these obstacles, Turmoil is so impressed (and smitten) that she offers him a job as her flight commander -- but first he must prove his loyalty by killing Razor. The first SWAT Kats short (and the only one originally planned as a half-hour episode) has a familiar plot, but compensates with the unusual relationship between T-Bone and Turmoil: he's genuinely attracted to her ("She's kind of cool, in a nasty sort of way"), but his duty to stop her is clear. (So much for T-Bone's crush on Callie Briggs, a running gag during the first season.) B+ In-Jokes: When Lance Falk pitched "Cry Turmoil" to the Tremblays, they had already conceived "The UFO Story", which eventually became "When Strikes Mutilor". Falk saw that the ideas were similar: "They're [both] about a big, giant aircraft that has a lot of little fighter aircraft in it, and there's a main bad guy on the big aircraft, so they're structually the same. The [SWAT Kats] fight their way through the defenses, go inside, beat the villain, and that's the end." Falk was chosen to write both episodes in order to make them as different as possible. As a reference to the situation, he named his villain "Turmoil" -- which is an anagram of "Mutilor". (My notes: the "big, giant aircraft that has a lot of little fighter aircraft in it" is an idea that's been around awhile - previously seen incarnations include Don Karnage's "Iron Vulture" in DTV's "Tale Spin" and a series of dirigibles commissioned by the U.S. Navy which had the capability of launching aircraft.) Lance Falk: "I created [Turmoil] because outside of Molly [Mange], we didn't have any female villains, and even Molly, as good a villain as she is, is half of a team." Falk originally conceived "Cry Turmoil" as a "bookend" to "Metal Urgency", in which he depicted Commander Feral as a character with integrity: "I wanted to show that he could be a really bad guy under the right circumstances. At the very beginning of the episode, Feral is made a bigger fool than ever by the SWAT Kats. He loses his cool and gets fired. Turmoil is impressed with him in spite of all that. She sees that 1. He knows all the city's weak points, 2. He's as mad at the SWAT Kats as she is, 3. She finds him virile and manly, and 4. He's got nothing to lose by joining her, because he just got drummed out." Feral joins with Turmoil, just as T-Bone does in the finished episode. But unlike T-Bone, Feral really does become a villain: "He's not just pretending, not just waiting for the right moment to turn the tables on her." When Feral realizes that the SWAT Kats are going to beat Turmoil, "He turns on her out of self-interest and says 'I was planning to do this all along'", and at the end only Feral and the audience know the truth. Falk's idea was changed by an H-B executive who said, "The show's about Razor and T-Bone, so make her fall in love with T-Bone instead." Falk says this changed the tone of the episode: "It's possible that Feral wold be bad, but it's never possible that T-Bone would ever betray his partner, so there's nothing suspenseful about it." As for Commander Feral, he doesn't even appear in the final version of "Cry Turmoil". 18b. SWATKATS UNPLUGGED Airdates: November 5/6, 1994 Written by Glenn Leopold Hard Drive uses a stolen "anti-weapon scrambler" to deactivate the TurboKat's weapon systems. "We can't fight him, so we're going to have to outwit him," Razor declares, eloquently summarizing the simple plot of this SWAT Kats super short. It's only 7:15 long, which isn't nearly enough time to develop a compelling adventure story. Everyone tries their best, though. B- Appearances: This is supposed to be Hard Drive's solo showcase, but even here he has to share screen time with a second villain: Chop Shop (Nick Chinlund), a loudly dressed thief with pink hair and an annoying laugh who is quickly caught by the SWAT Kats and never seen again. In-Jokes: When Ann Gora asks the SWAT Kats why they do what they do, T-Bone paraphrases a famous line from Raymond Chandler's essay "The Simple Art of Murder" when he answers, "We have a mission, Ann. Down these mean skies a kat must fly.." 19. THE DEADLY PYRAMID Airdates: November 12/13, 1994 Written by Glenn Leopold Story concept by Christian and Yvon Tremblay Every action/adventure cartoon does a mummy episode, but leave it to SWAT Kats to top the other series with an army of mummy commandoes as big as a small building. They're controlled by the Pastmaster, who unearths them from "the lost pyramid of Katchu-Picchu" as part of his latest attempt to take over Megakat City. When one of the monsters knocks off Callie Briggs' glasses, the sorcerer finally sees her resemblance to his beloved Queen Callista ("Bride of the Pastmaster" - another Leopold script), so he kidnaps her and starts the whole "You will marry me!" business all over again. As in "The Giant Bacteria", the plot is pretty basic and the violence is excessive, but "Pyramid" has some good points. It's SWAT Kats best looking episode; Mook's animation here is among the finest ever done for an American television program. Callie has never looked better (which almost makes up for her being relegated to damsel-in-distress status in this story). And the underused Dr. Sinian gets her most active role of the whole series. B+ Appearances: Another member of "Pyramid"'s crowded cast is Professor Hackle, making his only appearance in an episode without the Metallikats. Cybertron, a plucky, R2D2-like robot who protects the pilots and their friends. (Me: editing glitch, this part makes no sense) Considering the dismal track record of plucky, R2D2-like robots in TV animationi, Cybertron is surprisingly tolerable, even almost likable. (My notes: "Cybertron" is a name which was last connected to TV Animation as the name of the "Transformers" homeworld off in the space of 1984 somewhere. Though the animation in this episode is indeed some of the best I'd ever seen, I thought Razor's facial expressions were a bit "off", though T-Bone and the rest of the cast have never looked better. There are many scenes in this that recommend themselves to even the most casual viewer of Anime, but check out the staging and animation of the early scenes of the Kat guys on the Cyclotron, and the beautiful "jump" that they do on the thing while entering the Pyramid itself. You will find nothing better in North American animation - Feature or otherwise - and when I showed the ep to a friend, he practically passed out when I told him that the same outfit culpable in "The Smurfs" had also created this.) 20. CAVERNS OF HORROR Airdates: November 19/20, 1994 Written by Glenn Leopold Story concept by Christian and Yvon Tremblay When the SWAT Kats, Felina Feral and Ann Gora search for some missing miners in the caverns beneath Megakat City, they soon find the cause of the disappearances: rock scorpions who have been mutated into gigantic, kat-eating monsters by illegally dumped toxic waste. As with "Bride of the Pastmaster" and "Chaos in Crystal", this tale's setting is a welcome change of pace from all the "Megakat City under attack" episodes. The heroes' underground journey is interesting in its own right, and it also means that the TurboKat must be used sparingly for once. But after all the buildup, in the end this is just another "SWAT Kats vs. monsters" episode. And SWAT Kats had done too many of those already. B 21a. VOLCANUS ERUPTS Airdates: November 26/27, 1994 Written by Glenn Leopold Story concept by Christian and Yvon Tremblay Mayor Manx and Mr. Young plan to build an industrial park on Anakata Island, the SWAT Kats equivalent to Hawaii. During construction, the ancient "fire demon" Volcanus (Frank Welker - no dialogue, just monster noises) is accidentally freed from his volcano prison. "Lava Lips" soon heads for the mainland and becomes the latest giant monster to stomp through the streets of Megakat City, ho hum. There are only two things of interest here: Razor wears a nifty heat suit while battling the beast, and veteran actor Clyde Kusatsu ("All-American Girl") plays an islander who tries to warn Manx and Young about Volcanus. C. 21b. THE ORIGIN OF DR. VIPER Airdates: November 26/27, 1994 Written by Glenn Leopold With SWAT Kats nearing its end, the mystery surrounding one of its major villains is finally solved in this flashback story. Dr. Zyme (who was killed in "The Giant Bacteria") and his partner Dr. Elrod Purvis co-develop Viper Mutagen 368, a regenerative growth formula that the "idealistic fool" Zyme wants to donate to Megakat City but he greedy Purvis wants to sell to the highest bidder. While attempting to steal the chemical, Purvis spills it on himself and seems to die, but the flawed formula causes him to revive as the murderous mutant we all know and hate. And when Viper endangers Zyme, Mayor Manx, Deputy Mayor Briggs and Commander Feral with his giant mutant mosquitoes, only the SWAT Kats can rescue them all. Easily the best of the SWAT Kats shorts, this is so densely packed with characters and subplots that it easily could have been expaned to a full-length episode. But then, how could we live without "Volcanus Erupts". A- 22. THE DARK SIDE OF THE SWAT KATS Airdates: December 10/11, 1994 Written by Jim Katz T-Bone and Razor enter a parallel dimension where evil counterparts of the SWAT Kats and Callie Briggs are conspiring with Dark Kat to blow up Enforcer Headquarters. It's fun to watch the three evil twins verbally abuse each other, but this episode has little else ot offer because Katz fails to take full advantage of the alternate universe concept. What if more of the good characters had been evil in the parallel world? What if some of the villains had been heroes? "Dark Side..." just isn't as good as such similar tales as 'Star Trek's' "Mirror- Mirror" or 'Darkwing Duck's' "Life, the Negaverse, and Everything." B- Musings: One of this episode's best moments is a silent sequence in which both sets of SWAT Kats infiltrate Pumadyne (a high-tech weapons company that appears in several other episodes) to retrieve the "mega-detonator" for Dark Kat's bomb. The good ones are content to sneak past the guards; the evil ones knock them out for the sheer sadistic pleasure of doing so. 23. UNLIKELY ALLOYS Airdates: December 24/25, 1994 Written by Lance Falk "Chaos in Crystal"'s Dr. Leiter Greenbox (now voiced by Nick Chinlund) creates Zed (Charlie Adler), a "micro-brain repair unit" that can automatically fix any damaged machine. When the injured Metallikats use Zed to rebuild themselves, the device's programming is "contaminated with their criminal personalities". Zed begins absorbing other machines (including Mac Mange), builds and ever-grwoing armored body around itself that's eventually large enough to dwarf a skyscraper, and starts talking about "total world domination". The SWAT Kats, Dr. Greenbox and Molly Mange reluctantly team up and enter Zed's body in a desperate attempt to deactivate the metal menace from the inside. Molly predictably acts up, but Greenbox's reaction is even worse -- overwhelmed by what his genius has produced, his mind snaps and he unites with Zed so they can take over the world together! SWAT Kats' last episode (at least so far) is one of its best. Mook's animation is fantastic, the story is strong, the Metallikats' devotion to each other makes them semi-sympathetic characters, and Greenbox's transformation is effective even though it's too abrupt. All this and Commander Feral's first name is finally revealed, too! (it's Ulysses). A In-Jokes: The SWAT Kats, when they first encounter Zed: T-BONE: "Crud! What is that thing?" RAZOR: "Giant-monster-of-the-week?" Lance Falk: 'Unlikely Alloys', which was an unused idea from the first season, is Falk's favourite of the SWAT Kats episodes he wrote. "It was Davis (Doi's) idea to split the Metallikats up," says Falk, who had planned to have both Manges join the fantastic voyage inside Zed's body. "I [originally] had a big robot fight at the end, but Davis turned it into a love story. As bad as [the Metallikats] are, as much as they fight and bicker, they're willing to sacrifice themselves for one another. I thought that was a very strong idea, and the instant I heard it I was mad at myself for not thinking of it." (My notes: Lance Falk is a self-professed science fiction aficianado and even submitted two scripts to "Star Trek: The Next Generation" which, sadly, weren't used. "Unlikely" demonstrates some of these science fiction influences with obvious references to the movie "Fantastic Voyage" in addition to an episode of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" in which Lt. Barkley's situation is roughly analogous to that of Dr. Greenbox.) THE UNFINISHED EPISODES Lance Falk was kind enough to give brief synopses of the three unfinished SWAT Kats episodes. All three scripts were written by Glenn Leopold. *24* TURMOIL II: THE REVENGE Turmoil busts out of jail. It opens up in a womens' prison, and this big mole machine comes out of the ground and [the prisoners] all pile into it. Turmoil busts out the entire womens' prison, and they all work for her. She gets ahold of a massive laser satellite system, or a big death beam -- I've forgotten exactly what it was. It's controlled from her fortress, which is a castle on top of a snowbound mountain. The SWAT Kats must scale the mountain and do all this snow fighting stuff. It's real James Bond-ish. *25* DOCTORS OF DOOM Dr. Viper teams up with Dr. Harley Street, the alien-possessed scientist from "The Ci-Kat-A" (hence the title). "They create a lot of monsters that have to be blown up within 22 minutes. I hardly remember that one." *26* THE CURSE OF KATALUNA "It was a succubus story, about a woman that Commander Feral really had a thing for, and she was really draining the life out of him. He was getting older and older through the show, until he was practically a mummy at the end. [Kataluna] drained his energy and became this big, huge harpy, and she had other harpy things that helped her, and they were terrorizing the city." The SWAT Kats became involved when a justifiably concerned Felina Feral called on them to help save her uncle. Kataluna was voiced by Nancy Linari, who had played "Morticia"on H-B's 1992-94 "Addams Family" series. " 'Kataluna' was a real strong episode with another terrific female villain," Falk says. "It used Commander Feral more than any of the other shows that used him -- it was really Feral's episode." Not surprisingly, Dr. Sinian also appears; after helping the SWAT Kats defeat "The Pastmaster" and "The Red Lynx", she's an old hand at handling supernatural villains by now. Finally, the Tremblays created a character that the SWAT Kats producers never used: "Nimbus the Weather Warrior", who Falk describes as "a weather villain who rode a big motorcycle." Thanks to Bodie Chandler, Davis Doi, Glenn Leopold, and Kris Zimmerman at Hanna-Barbera for their help. Special thanks to Lance Falk ("One thing I want to make sure you put into the article is: Davis Doi is the best boss I've ever worked with") and John Zuker for consenting to be interviewed. Any comments on this article? Write and tell me what you think! Mark Lungo, 7705 Ragall Pkwy, Middleburg Heights, OH 44130-6414. Mark Lungo is a Cleveland-based freelance writer who has contributed to "Action Figure News and Toy Review", "Collectible Toys & Values" and "Action Figure Collector". This is his first article for ANIMATO! ____________________________END__________________________________ _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 03:01:05 +0700 Subject: Re: First name. >I suppose the SWAT Kats know her well enough to be on first-name >terms... > >Most of the time the SWAT Kats call her Lt. Feral,but like Callie, it's >Felina behind her back. This is a formality issue, should you call your colleague or your superior by his/her first name? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 03:01:02 +0700 Subject: Re: Kat-ching up... Dana Uehara wrote: >A few comments on some previous listmail (being out of town for a few days >hasn't helped me here! ): < >I'm basing my spelling of Miz Briggs' name off one >episode where a placard on her desk clearly shows it written with two 'l's. In which episode? I actualy was planning to see her real name on her office door or something like that, but I couldn't wait that long and decided to see the FAQ instead (Which BTW has no her full name on it :-( ), and so I decided to ask the list then. >Actually, the characters in the office at the time are >T-Bone, Razor, the Lieutenant, Callie Briggs and the one Kat who was robbed >(was his name ever mentioned)? I'm curious at this other kat, how does he look like? how does he speak? what kind fur does he has? >-- >================ Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 03:00:57 +0700 Subject: Re: Callie and Felina >>Yeah, but they look like they were relate to something, maybe if some of >>their personalities were join the "policewoman" will appear , > >Nope. You just about nailed it, I think. Callie represents the cross >between a strong >role model and a Barbie Doll, Barbie Doll??? Hmmm.... maybe if they make an action figure of her, that might sell :-), of course there still the problem of the Glasses thing and the lack of dress. ;-) (The relation between Callie, Felina, and little girl is deleted) >I think that's why "Callie" was chosen over Felina to begin with. Later >on as the series progressed, >they perhaps wanted to have a female character take on a more direct role >in the action, but >couldn't picture Callie crawling through the muck on her elbows holding a >rocket launcher - hence >Felina's role. Sound like Kallinne or Millenia to me, they both Neo-Enforcer, well....at least Kallinne was an Neo-Enforcer. (Oh yeah, they are one of my fanfic character, you might see them in my story, provided that I actualy finish it) >>They ended up with the best of both worlds, but obviously found it >>difficult to >incorporate both strong female characters in a single :22 ep without >having the effort result in >fairly minor scenes like the Helicopter rescue in "Mutation City". They make a mess when they decided to enter Callie instead, a real fine mess, now they have to worry about giving a fair role to both of them in a single episode. >Really, anybody that tells you that the character models aren't designed >in part to >appeal to the "Jessica Rabbit" set hasn't spent much time visiting our >lovely planet. Yeah you right, after all Callie is one of the reason I watched SwatKats. :-) (BTW, which planet do you mean? the one with the katkind on it or the one with mankind?) >They won't admit it, of course, but a ratings point is a ratings point, >and a viewer a >viewer - irrespective of what makes them tune in every week. Sad perhaps, but >also true. Maybe the SwatKats should change their direction to attract more audience, or at least make a slight deviation , but then again, maybe that will really mess things up for good. Forget my idea above, forget that I ever mention it before, that is a bad idea. From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 15:39:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: which character that you choose? On Wed, 20 Dec 1995, ARTHUR JOHN FREDA wrote: > Ok, If I can't choose Creeplings, then how about the TurboKat? > Use VTOL to get to the ground! :) Instead of Creeplings, maybe Dark Kat. He could summon them and get us to the ground! TONS of possiblities! A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From razor@netcom.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 16:42:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Merry Kats-mas Season's greetings and holiday wishes to the mailing list! Yeah, I know I'm a few days early for Christmas, but I don't know if I'll be available to post anything to the list on that day. In any event, I'm still in Kat-ching up mode, so here goes with a few more replies: Edo writes: > If you were stuck at the MegaKat city hall roof, and have to spend the > whole night there, which character do you choose for your companion? Aww, I only get *one*? ;-) I'd be tempted to pick Callie, especially since she was drawn with a lot more curves in the second season than in the first. But I'd probably choose Razor because I can identify with and relate to him (and as I've learned, I'm not alone on this either). On Felina being called "Lieutenant" rather than "Felina": as far as I can tell, only her uncle has called her by her first name. I also think it's a matter of rank -- do we know what rank Jake and Chance were (I'm assuming they were at the same rank. probably corporal) when Commander Feral kicked them out of the Enforcers? And as for why Felina is referred to as "Lieutenant Feral" rather than just "Feral" -- well, Commander Feral's name is usually shortened to "Feral," so I think that adding on the "Lieutenant" is so that there isn't any real confusion between the two. Yeah, yeah, I know I'm rambling. So shoot m... wait, no! *oof*! (Dana gets hit with a cement slug from a Glovatrix offstage) -- ================ Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================ From erudnick@pica.army.mil Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: Ed Rudnicki Date: Thu, 21 Dec 95 19:22:21 EST Subject: Re: which character that you choose? Edo: >If you were stuck at the MegaKat city hall roof, and have to spend the >whole night there, which character do you choose for your companion? > >I think my opinion is the same as Tim and Ed, of course this only >speculation, so I could be wrong. Well, if you mean Callie, you'd be right. Now, before I get that "drooling fanboy" accusation leveled at me (I've been guilty of it, but not this time :), consider this: in addition to being very easy on the eyes, Callie is also intelligent, strong-willed, gutsy, and yet she's still charming and personable. She's the sort of person you could talk with for hours and hours, and never run out of things to discuss. And if they shut down the heat at night, such that a bit of cuddling is necessary to keep warm, well, this is not a bad thing :) Razor would be a good choice as well. He's smart and able, yet doesn't have T-Bone's bravado, which does get annoying at times. You'd get to find out the very many unconventional uses of common office equipment :), and hearing about the Kats' exploits from the quiet partner would be thrilling. Not that T-Bone would be boring either, but it would be a case of him talking and me listening attentively. Now that I've thought about it, he reminds ma a lot of an old USAF sergeant I used to know, who spent his career working on fixed-wing gunships. Every time we ran into each other at meetings we'd hit the bar and he'd start with the "gunship stories" from his VN days . >Oh yeah, if you choose one of the villain, OK! that will do too. :-) Dark horse for me: Turmoil. Most of the villains are rather megalomaniacal, and it'd be fun to sit and listen while they rant on and on and on about their plans for conquering whatever. But in that there's a sameness to them in this regard, I'd take the pretty one with the mellifluous voice :) Ed From us010700@pop3.interramp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: "Matthew Milam" Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 22:55:28 +0000 Subject: Hi guys!!! I haven't been on this list in a while just because i didn't see a point at first..But now i do. In recent months word has come down that Disney's Hit Gargoyles could die out after season three due to hatred by the new president of Walt Disney Animation. Now i am even more conviced to send letters out to all the newsgroups related to tv and scifi and animation. Let's do it for the Kats.... And for a third season.. ___________________________________________________________ Attn: Swat Kats: The Radical Squardon Fans We need your support to bring this well-animated series back on the air were it belongs. For infomation on how you can save the show e-mail. Matthew Milam (us010700@interramp.com) __________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 13:16:37 +0700 Subject: Re: which character that you choose? Sorry, I forget to include more description on my question, it should be like this: If you were stuck at the MegaKat city hall roof, and have to spend the whole night there, which character do you choose for your companion? you can pick what ever character that you want for compay, the sky is the limit, just as along that you don't choose all the character that ever appear on SwatKats in one same roof, if you do that then we have some space problem here, somebody will have to go down (The hard way) , and you choose one of the villain, I can be sure that it isn't one of them who are going down. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 13:16:34 +0700 Subject: Re: Merry Kats-mas >Season's greetings and holiday wishes to the mailing list! Yeah, I know >I'm a few days early for Christmas, but I don't know if I'll be available >to post anything to the list on that day. There is some mailing list that all it's subscriber (almost) are gone for the hollidays, so if you ever do disappear, we will know where you are because you tell us where you are going to be, so to you all of you on this list, tell us first before you are gone for the hollidays. >Edo writes: >> If you were stuck at the MegaKat city hall roof, and have to spend the >> whole night there, which character do you choose for your companion? > >Aww, I only get *one*? ;-) Well, I forget to include more description on that question (Sorry), you guys can pick all the character you want, the more the better. >-- >================ Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 15:20:21 +0700 Subject: Re: which character that you choose? >On Wed, 20 Dec 1995, ARTHUR JOHN FREDA wrote: > >> Ok, If I can't choose Creeplings, then how about the TurboKat? >> Use VTOL to get to the ground! :) > Instead of Creeplings, maybe Dark Kat. He could summon them and >get us to the ground! TONS of possiblities! Yes that could work too, but that will surely a short stay on the city hall roof ;-), what if all the characters powers are gone when they are on the roof that night? T-Bone aren't T-Bone, Razor aren't Razor, Hard Drive cann't do anything, Felina without her gun or weapons (It could be nice talking to her when she is off duty), etc. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 16:13:16 +0700 Subject: Re: Last part of the Animato! article - Season Two ep guide >"When are you gonna finish typing that stuff in, Christmas?!!" > >Um...not quite, but close. Here's the last part. It's not 92k, but >hey..I try. > >14. MUTATION CITY > >Trivia: Callie's communications link with the SWAT Kats is supposed to be >a secret, but here >she not only uses her communicator in front of Mayor Manx, but she also >lets him us it as well. >(My notes: Actually, after looking at this ep a number of times, it >appears that Callie is using > a police portable rather than anything resembling her special Kats >transceiver which is rather > more triangle shaped <"Pastmaster Always Rings Twice">. Her communicator fall when she try to contact them, I think she use one of the Enforcer communication device to contact the SwatKats. >15. BRIGHT AND SHINY FUTURE > >The Pastmaster sends T-Bone and Razor to Megakat City's near future -- a >nightmare world >where The Metallikats rule as fascist dictators, killer robots confine >"non-metallic creatures" >to slave labor camps, the SWAT Kats' friends are fugitive freedom >fighters, and the SWAT >Kats' future selves are dead. Are the SwatKats are going to die in the future? but then again when someone travel through time, you could never be sure what the future will look like. >16. WHEN STRIKES MUTILOR > >were there any intelligent species besides Kats, etc. Yes, the are other sentient beings besides Kats, they living in the same planet as the Kats, and they try to conquer the whole planet. (Sorry folks, just promoting my story, a little ad won't hurt anyone, would they?) >the little computer voice says, 'Okay, the environment's back to normal,' >and the [aliens] look >at each other and one says 'Wow! A planet of intelligent cats! How >interesting!' and the other >guy says, 'Well, it's a big universe. Anything is possible.' And they >pop their helmets off and they're >human! And then you back away and you see an American flag on the wall, American flag??? I thought USA goverment was destroyed after a total destruction that has happened to our planet, and new totaly humankind organisation was build to rebuild our planet, then they try to send a ship to a distant planet, so that once we will see ocean again in our planet, unfortunenately the ship has never seen again. >and what you're >seeing in one fell swoop is that SWAT Kats is absolutely [set] on another >planet in the future. He.he.he, great idea! :-) wrong universe, maybe if they make it on a real life film kind of thing that may work, but this is a cartoon that is devoted to animal like characters, you just cann't rewrite the whole cartoon universe, that will destroy the entire universe from the first cartoon that was created for animal like beings to the SwatKats series, too bad :-(, this could be a good episode that fit the kat planet position though. :-( Now if Lance make them come from a different universe (Gone to an interdimension portal by accident, ala Voyager) , and unfortunenately has been hijacked by Mutilor pirates clan, he send the rest of his troops back to his articifial planet hideout, while he make a business use for the ship, then at the end they (The Humans) have to survive in this universe (Make them come back awhile to the kat planet for a visit), I think this thing could work, but then again this is my opinion, anyone want to comment on this? BTW, does this mean that the kat planet atmosphere is poisonous to us? if the SwatKats can breath inside the same atmosphere as Mutilor lives, does this mean if I were breathing their atmosphere that I will die for sure? Oh yeah, if you want to see other intelligent being that look like cats, try the Kilrathi, WARNING the Kilrathi never take any prisoner. >I thought that would have blown people out of their seats if they saw >that, but one of the >executives said 'Naaah, I don't get it. Just make them cat aliens.' And >that cheesed me off >quite a bit." Those executives really whip his tail. From leetwail@iscs.nus.sg Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: Leet Wai Leong Simon Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 19:57:12 +0800 (GMT-8) Subject: Re: which character that you choose? On Thu, 21 Dec 1995, Ed Rudnicki wrote: > Edo: > >If you were stuck at the MegaKat city hall roof, and have to spend the > >whole night there, which character do you choose for your companion? > Ed: > And if they shut down the heat at night, such that a bit of > cuddling is necessary to keep warm, well, this is not a bad thing :) [Drooling fanboy alert! Drooling fanboy alert!] Boy, you were almost credible for a moment there ... ;) If keeping warm was the utmost priority, I'd choose Hard Drive :) Okay, if I had to choose one person, I'd pick Steele ... then I could push him off the roof ;) > >Oh yeah, if you choose one of the villain, OK! that will do too. :-) I'd pick Hard Drive again ... I could swipe his surge coat and get the heck off the roof ... (another one for the list A.J. ;) Simon Leet :) - Who's currently using an account that's supposed to be non-existant ... From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 07:24:27 -0800 Subject: Re: which character that you choose? >Yes that could work too, but that will surely a short stay on the city hall >roof ;-), what if all the characters powers are gone when they are on the >roof that night? T-Bone aren't T-Bone, Razor aren't Razor, Hard Drive >cann't do anything, Felina without her gun or weapons (It could be nice >talking to her when she is off duty), etc. The more I think of this "on the roof" question, the more I keep coming up with these interesting scene possibilities. Okay, if I was marooned on said roof and wanted some material for a script, I'd really like to be stuck up there for hours with both Razor and Lt. Steele. Odd, huh? I'd like to see their interaction, as I somehow doubt it would be limited to hostility. Hmm.... (Oh yeah, the current movie "Balto" seems to take a hint from the Kats...the central "bad dog!" villain is named "Steele". Kinda cool even if they don't know how to spell..) _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 07:19:32 -0800 Subject: Re: Hi guys!!! >I haven't been on this list in a while just because i didn't see a >point at first..But now i do. > >In recent months word has come down that Disney's Hit Gargoyles could >die out after season three due to hatred by the new president of Walt Disney Animation. > >Now i am even more conviced to send letters out to all the newsgroups >related to tv and scifi and animation. > >Let's do it for the Kats.... > >And for a third season.. Yeah, someone's been trying to get hold of me with the Gargs developments...seems Dean Valentine is actually _worse_ than Gary Krisel was (who knew?). SwatKats and Gargs fall into the same category because they're both quality shows that need a pile of money spent on them to keep the quality up. A lot of companies now want to do the "thirty-day thinking" routine and pander to current "trends" without investing in a classic that will be viewable for years like "Jonny Quest" or the "Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies" shorts. It's false economy, really. Despite not finishing the second season, even Christian Tremblay recognizes that TCN and H-B have a "classic" in "SwatKats:The Radical Squadron", which will still be watchable in ten or fifteen years when everyone's forgotten "Jonny Quest and the Cyber Ci-Kat-As". Time for another letter to my good friend Fred Seibert, I think - though I expect he's trying to keep things together over there with whatever budgetary table scraps Atlanta is willing to send over. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 22:27:47 +0700 Subject: Re: which character that you choose? >Edo: >>If you were stuck at the MegaKat city hall roof, and have to spend the >>whole night there, which character do you choose for your companion? >> >>I think my opinion is the same as Tim and Ed, of course this only >>speculation, so I could be wrong. > >Well, if you mean Callie, you'd be right. Just like Razor said, BINGO! :-) since you two (Tim and Ed) is the first one who answer my first question, I think that maybe we all three has something in common. :-) (The reason is deleted, BTW I also has the same reason too:-) ) >She's the sort of person >you could talk with for hours and hours, and never run out of things to >discuss. Yes, it would nice to talk to her all night (No! it doesn't mean that she is a loud mouth), but then again in a cold weather like that, I wouldn't dare to talk long, heat mustn't vent out from the mouth. Oh yeah, without her personalities, Razor maybe dead by now, remember the water hose? >And if they shut down the heat at night, such that a bit of >cuddling is necessary to keep warm, well, this is not a bad thing :) Well, you are stuck at the roof (The same one that has stars, starlight, full moon, moonlight, and frezzing temperature), not inside the building (I could call the security guard to unlock the door if I was stuck, but the roof doesn't have any intercom), and it's frezzing when is night there, I think it take more than _a little bit_ cuddling to keep warm, I think you going to need an artic survival kit, or something warmer. Oh yeah, this cuddling bit, I rather jump from that roof first before I do that! is not that I don't like her, but I could get emotionaly out of control if that happen. (Razor and T-Bone comments is deleted for size sake) I choose Jake as the second kat for my companion (Jake, as in Jake Clawson, not Razor), want to guess which one is the third and fourth? >Ed Simon Leet wrote: >Okay, if I had to choose one person, I'd pick Steele ... then I could >push him off the roof ;) He my fifth kat in my list (Don't worry, I won't pushed him, unless he try to push me first), want to guess who is on sixth? :-) >I'd pick Hard Drive again ... I could swipe his surge coat and get the >heck off the roof ... (another one for the list A.J. ;) How? sorry I haven't see him yet, but how he get away? I know that he can travel by cables, but which cables? unless you mean the cable that directed static eletricity (Lightning) to the ground, now if there is a electric storm that night, I wouldn't dare use that route. Oh yeah, you can choose more than one kat, but since the possibilities that three or more kats stuck in the roof is slim, I think I choose just one, myself! From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 07:43:36 -0800 Subject: Re: Last part of the Animato! article - Season Two ep guide Lance Falk thru Mark Lungo thru Chance thru Macsonic wrote: >>and what you're >>seeing in one fell swoop is that SWAT Kats is absolutely [set] on another >>planet in the future. ..then, Macsonic wrote: >BTW, does this mean that the kat planet atmosphere is poisonous to us? if >the SwatKats can breath inside the same atmosphere as Mutilor lives, does >this mean if I were breathing their atmosphere that I will die for sure? You know, this is the first thing that went through my mind (and what a short trip that was) when I read it. Either the Kat guys would have to spend the entire ep in spacesuits, or you'd be left with the impression that the atmosphere in Megakat City would be poisonous to humans. Hmm. I think us near-human types would only have trouble breathing in Megakat City if we happened to be standing next to Feral and his Kat-qua Velva. >>I thought that would have blown people out of their seats if they saw >>that, but one of the >>executives said 'Naaah, I don't get it. Just make them cat aliens.' And >>that cheesed me off >>quite a bit." > >Those executives really whip his tail. I'm trying to steer clear of the pseudo-political industry junk, but this begs comment. Two inexplicable decisions brought a couple of individuals to the Kats project who's talents were better suited elsewhere. The first of these was a guy by the name of Joe Mazzuca. Joe is labelled "The Angel of Death" by animation people because he's only brought in to a project to take severe measures to get it back on track and under budget - which he normally does by cutting a swath through the art department. The second individual was an executive named Margot McDonough, who was essentially appointed to a position where she had the power to veto the decisions of the design team including Lance Falk, and even the story editor Glenn Leopold. Margot was actually more surprised at her appointment than her underlings-to-be, saying something like "Well, okay...but I don't understand the whole idea behind action-adventure cartoons". Gee Ted, great choice. Margot's inestimable contributions to the Kats project included interfering on creative choices here and in "Turmoil", requesting changes at the storyboard level based on an inadequate understanding of the media, and generally making life unnecessarily difficult for no good reason. I'm think Lance's idea was a good one, but perhaps it was too early in the Kats run to reveal something like that. The perfect place for that kind of thing would've been in an OAV or theatrical Kats movie released in between two seasons during the summer hiatus. That *really* would've blown the audience away. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 23:10:16 +0700 Subject: Re: Last part of the Animato! article - Season Two ep guide >(My notes: "Cybertron" is a name which was last connected to TV Animation >as the name > of the "Transformers" homeworld off in the space of 1984 somewhere. No wonder the name seems familiar, I guess Cybertron maybe related to Optimus Prime. :-) It is too bad Cybertron get damaged while in the fight, it could be a good sidekick. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 00:40:52 +0700 Subject: Re: which character that you choose? >>Yes that could work too, but that will surely a short stay on the city hall >>roof ;-), what if all the characters powers are gone when they are on the >>roof that night? > >The more I think of this "on the roof" question, the more I keep coming up with >these interesting scene possibilities. I actualy dream this scene when I cann't sleep (Go fig), and then try putting this as my first scene in my story (My first try is only the roof and only one kat). (At the end of the story, there is five kats is hurt, one is destroyed, one is heart broken, one has lost a good friend, one has lost a colleague, and one has lost a fellow fans of Kat Kommando) >Okay, if I was marooned on said roof and wanted >some material for a script, I'd really like to be stuck up there for hours >with both Razor and >Lt. Steele. Odd, huh? No, not very odd indeed, you are you doing what scientist always do, observing an experiment, then write it down. (I think Konway do this all the time, I don't know about Conway though, but I'm sure that scientist always do this) >I'd like to see their interaction, as I somehow doubt it would be >limited to hostility. Hmm.... Hope you have success on this Steel(e) and Razor thing. :-) Oh yeah, does Steel(e) related to Remington Steele? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 00:40:48 +0700 Subject: Re: Last part of the Animato! article - Season Two ep guide Chance wrote: >>BTW, does this mean that the kat planet atmosphere is poisonous to us? if >>the SwatKats can breath inside the same atmosphere as Mutilor lives, does >>this mean if I were breathing their atmosphere that I will die for sure? > >You know, this is the first thing that went through my mind (and what a >short trip that was) >when I read it. Either the Kat guys would have to spend the entire ep in >spacesuits, or >you'd be left with the impression that the atmosphere in Megakat City >would be poisonous to >humans. A spacesuit maybe will more realistic, but then again it doesn't guarante that we will survive on their atmosphere (All the race have their own special atmosphere), but if they (The humans) only wear the helmet for formality use only (Why is that Storm Trooper always wear their helmet?), I think that they could make the whole thing work. Of course this will turn to StarTrek kind of episode, other sentient beings living in the same atmosphere. >Hmm. I think us near-human types would only have trouble breathing in Megakat >City if we happened to be standing next to Feral and his Kat-qua Velva. Near-humans??? does it mean that you (And maybe some other people in this) was a humanoid being that was stranded here? (Or send here to conquer planet Earth, depend on who you ask), or all the SwatKats viewer are mutated into a near-human being? >I'm think Lance's idea was a good one, but perhaps it was too early in the >Kats run to reveal >something like that. Yes, I think that is a good idea too, but it seem will to soon to reveal the kat planet location in space (Some people may take it hard if they ever do see a kat and a human in the same enviroment, especialy in cartoon), even Mobius location still remains a mystery (Hmmm..., I wonder if Callie house is on an another planet :-) ). >The perfect place for that kind of thing would've been in an OAV or >theatrical Kats movie released in between two seasons during the summer >hiatus. That *really* >would've blown the audience away. Yes, that will a perfect thing to do in an OAV (I soon as I find out what OAV means, I will be more happier) and a Kats movie. From WKOZIOL@delphi.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: WKOZIOL@delphi.com Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 23:55:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: New member Whoever the person is thats in charge could you change a.hara@sul.com.br to artur.hara@mandic.com.br. He's been having problems with the other address. Thank you for changing it. BTW, he's from Brazil so lets give him a warm welcome when he comes on. From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 23:20:18 -0800 Subject: Re: New member >Whoever the person is thats in charge could you change a.hara@sul.com.br to >artur.hara@mandic.com.br. He's been having problems with the other address. >Thank you for changing it. BTW, he's from Brazil so lets give him a warm >welcome when he comes on. This has already been posted a couple of times, but it would appear once more wouldn't hurt. In Charge Type Individuals concerning the Kats List: Administrator: Yours Truly - chance@unix.infoserve.net Technical Junk& Keeper of the Rose Bush - Paul Hurley, rat@rat.org Basically, the technical glitches that crop up periodically get forwarded to rat@rat.org, and content issues, over-full mailbox complaints, off-topic complaints, and all that kind of nifty stuff come to me. Later. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 17:10:40 +0700 Subject: Is there other policewoman than Felina? Since we see that the only lady Enforcer is Felina (Well at least I only see Felina), I wonder if there is more lady enforcer other than Felina. Could it be that the original SwatKats contact was truly there (Never appear in the series, but do exist in the SwatKats universe), and when she decided to move from MegaKat (A change of job position, moved to other Enforcer HQ), so she give the job to Briggs instead (Could it be that Razor never give the communicator to Callie?), this maybe what is truly happen in the kat world. This only a plot possibilities, but we all know that the "policewoman" is evolved into Felina, which is appear in the second season, but this could make an interesting plot, just like Razor and Steel(e) "brotherhood". From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 17:10:43 +0700 Subject: Put who with who? Ok since all fantasy have to come to an end, yes Ed! is now the time to stop dreaming about stuck with her at the roof (I have to stop dreaming that too, it started to destroyed me from the inside), I think it's time that we think other things, chance mention something about putting Steel(e) and Razor on the same roof, and I think that maybe the perfect idea to observe a interaction between those character, OK! let's put who with who. Ok, anybody want to put t-Bone and Turmoil in the same roof, how about Dark Kat and Razor, how about Razor and Cybertron, how about Feral and Kataluna (Hey! how that get in here!), etc (etc meaning: put other possibilities here). (This question is started to look like "Which one do you choose if you stuck in a tiny island?" thing, of course we do this in MegaKat style.) Oh yeah, Callie and Felina is out of the character selection this time (Unless you put the two of them together, now that is a good idea), and you can choose more than two kats. From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 09:20:06 -0800 Subject: Re: Last part of the Animato! article - Season Two ep guide >It is too bad Cybertron get damaged while in the fight, it could be a good >sidekick. Glenn Leopold thought so too, as the robotic Sancho Panza has a part in one of the unfinished episodes. Speaking of episodes, the actual script for "Blackout" is on its way to me via the U.S. Postal Service, and I'll put it up to the rat.org site shortly thereafter. I can also post it in bite-sized chunks for the ftp-deprived, but maybe I'll solicit comments first. Comment-away... _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 09:34:47 -0800 Subject: Re: Last part of the Animato! article - Season Two ep guide >>Near-humans??? does it mean that you (And maybe some other people in this) >was a humanoid being that was stranded here? (Or send here to conquer >planet Earth, depend on who you ask), or all the SwatKats viewer are >mutated into a near-human being? Ummm...close. I think it means that I don't share much in common with the lager-lout Monster-Truckin' Country-Music "Married-with-America's Funniest Home Children" mindset that seems to make up most of the North American audience. I don't care too much for lightweight throwaway near-funny TV programming, and get more laughs out of the incidental funny bits in SwatKats ("Feral's after your heads!" -- "So's Razor...") than any of the "laugh now..." mentality responsible for most of the WPT's and what passes for entertainment in some other programs. 'Course, I also liked "Earth 2", "Battlestar Galactica" "Cadillacs and Dinosaurs", "Young Indiana Jones Chronicles" and everything else that was cancelled because it was cheaper to produce a two-set sitcom than anything spanking of quality. (For sale: one slightly used soapbox. Enquire within). >Yes, that will a perfect thing to do in an OAV (I soon as I find out what >OAV means, I will be more happier) and a Kats movie. Sorry. Katslist alumnus Jon Higa calls that "hitting me with those TLA's again - Three Letter Acronyms!". "OAV" (sometimes OVA) stands for "Original Animated Video"; basically something like "A Goofy Movie" solely created for distribution in the Home Video market. Many companies are starting to see the benefits of creating/releasing projects especially for the Home-theater types, and Turner would do well to consider a similar effort for Kats - maybe even compiling the unfinished eps into a 90 minute anthology with a TCN promo attached. Let me do the covers though - at least *I* know what colour Razor's nose is. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 02:16:16 +0700 Subject: Re: Last part of the Animato! article - Season Two ep guide >>It is too bad Cybertron get damaged while in the fight, it could be a good >>sidekick. > >Glenn Leopold thought so too, as the robotic Sancho Panza has a part in >one of the >unfinished episodes. Cybertron is supposed to be back in the unfinished episode??? but Hackle says it will take years to rebuild it, of course unless he has some help (My fanfic character story is connected to this episode), or are this only a small part? what is the part anyway? I'm curious, Cybertron is the one who get my attention in "Deadly Pyramid". >Speaking of episodes, the actual script for "Blackout" is on its way to me >via the U.S. Postal >Service, and I'll put it up to the rat.org site shortly thereafter. I can >also post it in bite-sized >chunks for the ftp-deprived, but maybe I'll solicit comments first. >Comment-away... Do it, but divided in chunks, like three acts divided in three chunks, more chunks if it is larger 300k. From GVVY03C@Prodigy.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: GVVY03C@Prodigy.com (B-KO DAITOKUJI) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 19:55:56 EST Subject: which character that you choose? >If you were stuck at the MegaKat city hall roof, and have to spend the >whole night there, which character do you choose for your companion? Let me see..... T-Bone, No, Razor! No!, aw, to heck with it all, I'd have 'em all, make it some kind of party!!!! or something. :/ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 12:47:05 +0700 Subject: Dr.Sinnian. Does anybody here want to talk to Dr.Sinnian? after all Felina and Callie isn't the only lady in MegaKat you know! She does look like Sophia Hapgood (A character from "Indiana Jones and the fate of Atlantis"), who is BTW, is Indy ex colleague. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 12:47:09 +0700 Subject: Steel(e), great character? Since he only appear in two episode ("The Wrath of Dark Kat" and "Enter the MadKat", well at least that is what I think), and we talk about him like he is the regular character, we even talk the possibilities of that he is related to Razor, maybe we should consider his possibilities as a regular character in the kats universe. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 12:47:11 +0700 Subject: Re: which character that you choose? >which character do you choose for your companion? > >Let me see..... >T-Bone, No, Razor! No!, aw, to heck with it all, I'd have 'em all, >make it some kind of party!!!! > >or something. :/ Good idea, maybe we should name this "the roof party", anyone you want to invite? :-) Well, I going to make it a small party, so I just invite four kats only. From fayxx001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: Timothy D Fay Date: Sun, 24 Dec 95 00:11:10 -0600 Subject: Re: Dr.Sinnian. Edo wrote: >Does anybody here want to talk to Dr.Sinnian? after all Felina and Callie >isn't the only lady in MegaKat you know! I wouldn't kick her out of my lab, if that's what you mean. ;-) -Tim From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 12:47:07 +0700 Subject: Will the SwatKats give up TurboKat? Since we all see the TurboKat always try to be ejected, but never destroyed (I never seen a TurboKat destroyed before), just let say that some villain is in control inside Enforcer HQ, and there is no way to eliminate the problem unless you destroy the entire building, the SwatKats can activated all their explosive weapon and headed the TurboKat to the building, this could be make a great ending (Until the new TurboKat is rebuild again of course), anyone want to write a fanfic about this? From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 01:36:42 -0800 Subject: Re: Will the SwatKats give up TurboKat? >Since we all see the TurboKat always try to be ejected, but never destroyed >(I never seen a TurboKat destroyed before), just let say that some villain >is in control inside Enforcer HQ, and there is no way to eliminate the >problem unless you destroy the entire building, the SwatKats can activated >all their explosive weapon and headed the TurboKat to the building, this >could be make a great ending (Until the new TurboKat is rebuild again of >course), anyone want to write a fanfic about this? It's destroyed twice, I think...once in "Enter the MadKat", and the other in "Katastrophe". (I think it's "Enter" where Manx says "...and of course your jet, SWAT Kats..."). _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From WKOZIOL@delphi.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: WKOZIOL@delphi.com Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 04:28:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Will the SwatKats give up TurboKat? As for destroying the Turbokat, it already happend. The ep that it happend in is called "Katastraphe." This is the ep where at the end Mayor Manx is trying to worm his way out of rebuilding the Turbokat but Callie steps in and threathens the Mayor in Miss Briggs fashion. The mayor sighs and then agrees to it. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 16:46:31 +0700 Subject: Re: Dr.Sinnian. >Edo wrote: >>Does anybody here want to talk to Dr.Sinnian? after all Felina and Callie >>isn't the only lady in MegaKat you know! > >I wouldn't kick her out of my lab, if that's what you mean. ;-) Well...no! I mean that the SwatKats always hang around with either Callie or Felina, maybe it's time that they hang around with Sinnian. PS: Since I know very little about kat history, I doubt that I can find a very good topic to talk about, so I may have hard time talking to her, but I agree with you Tim! I wouldn't kick her out. :-) >-Tim Oh yeah Tim! which one do you choose if you stuck in the roof? me and Ed already choose "one", which one do you choose? you can choose a lot of character if you want to, the more the better. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 17:06:03 +0700 Subject: Re: Will the SwatKats give up TurboKat? >It's destroyed twice, I think...once in "Enter the MadKat", and the other >in "Katastrophe". >(I think it's "Enter" where Manx says "...and of course your jet, SWAT >Kats..."). Great! another episode that I haven't seen before :-(, how did it get destroyed? and how is the rebuilding process? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 17:06:06 +0700 Subject: Re: Will the SwatKats give up TurboKat? >As for destroying the Turbokat, it already happend. I don't know that, in my mind the TurboKat is still safe (Still hasn't seen the episode that has the TurboKat destroy), BTW does this explain Razor line when he said that he doesn't want to rebuild the TurboKat again in "When Strikes Mutilor"? >The ep that it >happend in is called "Katastraphe." This is the ep where at the end >Mayor Manx is trying to worm his way out of rebuilding the Turbokat but >Callie steps in and threathens the Mayor in Miss Briggs fashion. The >mayor sighs and then agrees to it. How do the TurboKat get destroyed? and how do Manx help in rebuilding the TurboKat? From CNbL@aol.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: CNbL@aol.com Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 19:41:39 -0500 Subject: Re: Dr.Sinnian. >Well...no! I mean that the SwatKats always hang around with either Callie or Felina, >maybe it's time that they hung around with Sinnian. They sort of do in "The Deadly Pyramid", well, Cybertron does, anyway. Just in case you didn't see the ep yet, her full name is Abbey (Aby) Sinian (I'm not sure how it's spelled). In "Ghost Pilot" Callie is on the phone with her and says "Thanks Abbey (Aby)". BTW I might not get to check my mail tomorrow (being Christmas) so: Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Merry Cobb's day, Happy Yaksmas, or whatever. HAPPY HOLIDAYS! :-) From fayxx001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: Timothy D Fay Date: Sun, 24 Dec 95 23:38:00 -0600 Subject: Re: Dr.Sinnian. Edo wrote: >Oh yeah Tim! which one do you choose if you stuck in the roof? me and Ed >already choose "one", which one do you choose? you can choose a lot of >character if you want to, the more the better. I think I already mentioned that I'd choose my favorite Deputy Mayor, drooling fanboy that I am... :) -Tim From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 13:16:19 +0700 Subject: Re: Dr.Sinnian. >>Well...no! I mean that the SwatKats always hang around with either Callie or >Felina, maybe it's time that they hang around with Sinnian. > >They sort of do in "The Deadly Pyramid", well, Cybertron does, anyway. Well, I got the idea of asking about her after I watched "Deadly Pyramid", is either Callie or Felina who is always with them, but Sinnian never got to hang around with the SwatKats (Well, she did "hang" when the SwatKats lowered her to the roof :) ). > Just in case you didn't see the ep yet, her full name is Abbey (Aby) >Sinian (I'm not sure how it's spelled). Not another conflict of name spelling again, Chance say "Abby", you say "Abbey/Aby", this name spelling thing is got to be resolved in the FAQ, I think that the FAQ is going to need an update, Dana! we need that new FAQ, desperately! >In "Ghost Pilot" Callie is on the >phone with her and says "Thanks Abbey (Aby)". Why she call her by her first name? does Callie know her well? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 14:27:46 +0700 Subject: Re: Dr.Sinnian. >Edo wrote: >>Oh yeah Tim! which one do you choose if you stuck in the roof? > >I think I already mentioned that I'd choose my favorite Deputy Mayor, Oh! do you mean that "She can be my Deputy Mayor any time!" thing, well..., same here. >drooling fanboy that I am... :) I said before that we all three will choose the same one, and I was right. :-) >-Tim Ok since this topic is about Sinnian, let's go back to her. From leetwail@iscs.nus.sg Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: Leet Wai Leong Simon Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 20:08:28 +0800 (GMT-8) Subject: Enforcer ranks ... Just hit a snag while writing my fanfic ... how are Enforcers ranked anyway? Like the police? Like the army? Like the air force?! As far as I know, no organization has "Commander" as the top-dog rank, but if the Lt. is the next highest ranked (like Steele) then it would probably be closer to police ranks ... any opinions folks? Better yet, any real organizations which parallel the Enforcers? (doubtful as it may seem ...) Oh, and Merry Christmas folks! :) (or whatever it's kitty equivalent might be ...) Simon Leet :) - "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a savior, which is Christ the Lord." - Luke 2:11 From bruno.abud@mandic.com.br Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: bruno.abud@mandic.com.br (BRUNO ABUD) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 95 12:37:00 -0200 Subject: Re: Brazilian SK fan Hello, everybody. I'm from Sao Paulo, Brazil, and love SWAT KATS. Here, SK is shown at 2 stations: --- Cartoon Network (weekdays at 8:30 pm - Brasilia time and saturdays at 5:00 pm) --- Gazeta TV Network (weekdays at 6:00pm). Unfortunately, Gazeta (brazilian non-cable station) has the lowest audience among all the 7 brazilian stations, but SK has the highest audience in this station. I work as a radio journalist and news announcer. My favorite episode if "Razor's Edge" ("O Desafio de Razor") and , of course, Razor if my favorite. No SK stuff in Brazil. :( I'd like to know if some company in U.S. make SK comics (Marvel, DC, HB or else). How can I purchase them? Sorry for the bad english. Thanks. Bruno Abud Radio Educadora AM/FM bruno.abud@mandic.com.br ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.21 [NR] From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 23:42:45 +0700 Subject: Anybody here? Hmmm..., it seems that everybody is gone for the hollidays, OK! I will try you give guys questions, so that if you guys return, you will have your mailbox filling with many messages. 1. Do you think that the SwatKats need an ally? (I got a character who supposed to be their ally) 2. Is it okay if I add a new regular character to my story? 3. Is it okay if I deviated a little from the series? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 23:42:48 +0700 Subject: Re: Brazilian SK fan > Hello, everybody. > > I'm from Sao Paulo, Brazil, and love SWAT KATS. > Here, SK is shown at 2 stations: > (TV stuff is deleted) > and , of course, Razor if my favorite. Aren't everyone? :-) > No SK stuff in Brazil. :( Turner's way of handling a good thing. > I'd like to know if some company in U.S. make SK comics (Marvel, DC, HB > or else). How can I purchase them? Well, curently (To my knowledge) there is no SK comics, but there is SNES game of SK though. BTW there is a fanzine that is in the works by Timothy Fay. > Sorry for the bad english. Every english message is welcome here, no matter what languange do you speak, if you are SwatKats fans, you are welcome here, just as long if we understand what you are saying. > Thanks. > Bruno Abud From kaychang@eden.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 11:10:33 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Anybody here? >Hmmm..., it seems that everybody is gone for the hollidays, OK! I will try >you give guys questions, so that if you guys return, you will have your >mailbox filling with many messages. I'm not goin' anywhere. I get to stay home. >1. Do you think that the SwatKats need an ally? (I got a character who >supposed to be their ally) Don't they have many already? (Callie, Felina, Hackle, etc.) >2. Is it okay if I add a new regular character to my story? I don't care, but none of that crap saying "soandso is copyrighted by soandso" ok? I mean, everyone'll know it's yours since you're the only onbe asking. >3. Is it okay if I deviated a little from the series? What does "deviated" mean? Terra Chang Swat Kats fan, writer, nice person, totally crazy. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 01:38:29 +0700 Subject: Re: Anybody here? >>1. Do you think that the SwatKats need an ally? (I got a character who >>supposed to be their ally) >Don't they have many ally already? (Callie, Felina, Hackle, etc.) Sorry, I mean a new ally. Well, what I have in mind is a character that is a mysterious ally, the one who they (the SwatKats) doesn't truly know anything about this character., like Knuckles. This question is related to my second question. >>2. Is it okay if I add a new regular character to my story? >I don't care, but none of that crap saying "soandso is copyrighted by >soandso" ok? I mean, everyone'll know it's yours since you're the only onbe >asking. Don't worry I wont do that kind of thing, I won't stamp any copyrights on my character, everybody can use it if they like to. >>3. Is it okay if I deviated a little from the series? >What does "deviated" mean? Sorry! I wasn't very good at english, what I mean is, "is it okay if my story take a little bit different way from the series?", since the series is primary dedicated to action, is it okay if I write in a different way. >Terra Chang BTW Terra, how is "Early Dawning"? did Serena finaly choose the one who are going to be her new host? From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 10:55:48 -0800 Subject: Re: Dr.Sinnian. >> Just in case you didn't see the ep yet, her full name is Abbey (Aby) >>Sinian (I'm not sure how it's spelled). > >Not another conflict of name spelling again, Chance say "Abby", you say >"Abbey/Aby", this name spelling thing is got to be resolved in the FAQ, I >think that the FAQ is going to need an update, Dana! we need that new FAQ, >desperately! No conflict here, guys. "Abby" is short for "Abigail", whereas "Abbey" strictly refers to Monasteries with an attitude (don't take my word for it, ask Miriam Webster). >>In "Ghost Pilot" Callie is on the >>phone with her and says "Thanks Abbey (Aby)". > >Why she call her by her first name? does Callie know her well? Hard to tell. You get the idea they have some kind of history from Callie's dialogue concerning her in "The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice" - though Callie (I think) always says things like "thanks, Dr. Sinian" rather than "Abby". _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 11:06:10 -0800 Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >Just hit a snag while writing my fanfic ... how are Enforcers ranked >anyway? Like the police? Like the army? Like the air force?! As far as I >know, no organization has "Commander" as the top-dog rank, but if the Lt. >is the next highest ranked (like Steele) then it would probably be closer >to police ranks ... any opinions folks? Better yet, any real >organizations which parallel the Enforcers? (doubtful as it may seem ...) The Enforcers are almost a direct cross between the Military and Police forces of most countries, and an exact parallel to Singapore's Police Force (watch that gum!). None of the H-B stuff I have says anything about Enforcer hierarchies, but in U.S. police forces it goes something like: Patrolman (in Canada, generally "Constable" - and "Officer" generically) Corporal Sergeant Lieutenant Captain Commander Commissioner It's very unusual to have anybody on the streets above the grade of corporal, though sergeants are often on the sites of radar traps, safety checks, or other operations in a supervisory capacity, or driving around as the shift supervisor in an "on call" type role. Lieutenant and above are almost always desk-jockeys, which is why many officers are loathe to get promoted out of the NCO ranks and sentenced to pencil-pushing duty until retirement. There are many exceptions. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 11:20:00 -0800 Subject: Re: Anybody here? >>Hmmm..., it seems that everybody is gone for the hollidays, OK! I will try >>you give guys questions, so that if you guys return, you will have your >>mailbox filling with many messages. > >I'm not goin' anywhere. I get to stay home. Me too...though we have the family-thing happening all weekend. Something big is going down at Hanna-Barbera at the moment, but the details are really sketchy. I'll post it when I can. >>1. Do you think that the SwatKats need an ally? (I got a character who >>supposed to be their ally) >Don't they have many already? (Callie, Felina, Hackle, etc.) A character I had in mind would be a peripheral ally, but I really don't think we need a "third Swat Kat", if that's the concept. >>2. Is it okay if I add a new regular character to my story? >I don't care, but none of that crap saying "soandso is copyrighted by >soandso" ok? I mean, everyone'll know it's yours since you're the only onbe >asking. Heh. "Bingo!!". It's up to the individual, of course, but I personally find all this Copyright junk appended to fanfic somewhat offensive. My opinion as a Katfan, not the list administrator. >>3. Is it okay if I deviated a little from the series? >What does "deviated" mean? "Deviated" means a departure from the standard, normal, and ordinary in this case. In other words, he wants to do something, somehow that is a change from what we would normally expect from the series. Hey, it's fanfic - your arena, your game. > _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 11:13:20 -0800 Subject: Re: Brazilian SK fan > Hello, everybody. Hi there! Welcome to the ranks of the Kats-obsessed. We have a life, it's just that we don't want Turner to find out.... > I'm from Sao Paulo, Brazil, and love SWAT KATS. > Here, SK is shown at 2 stations: Well, Brazil beats Canada then...we don't get it on any. > --- Cartoon Network (weekdays at 8:30 pm - Brasilia time and > saturdays at 5:00 pm) > --- Gazeta TV Network (weekdays at 6:00pm). > > Unfortunately, Gazeta (brazilian non-cable station) has the > lowest audience among all the 7 brazilian stations, but SK > has the highest audience in this station. As far as I know (subject to correction), "SwatKats: The Radical Squadron" is one of "The Cartoon Network"'s most highly rated shows. I think "Space Ghost Coast-to-Coast" is like #4 or something. Guess I'll have to ask the Toonnet guy. > I'd like to know if some company in U.S. make SK comics (Marvel, DC, HB > or else). How can I purchase them? Unfortunately, nothing in terms of comics was ever produced. Hanna-Barbera was all set to go with a title from "Harvey" comics before their alliance fell through, and though Archie evidently expressed interest, they were told to forget it. Co-creator Christian Tremblay also tried to get a SwatKats title off the ground with "Dark Horse" comix, but was told during the final meeting that "cat characters don't work", or some other such clueless drivel. > Sorry for the bad english. > Thanks. > Bruno Abud > Radio Educadora AM/FM > bruno.abud@mandic.com.br >___ Blue Wave/386 v2.21 [NR] Hey, your English is better than 90 percent of Canada! (and your radio programming likely follows suit...) _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 02:36:25 +0700 Subject: Re: Dr.Sinian. >>> Just in case you didn't see the ep yet, her full name is Abbey (Aby) >>>Sinian (I'm not sure how it's spelled). >> >>Not another conflict of name spelling again, Chance say "Abby", you say >>"Abbey/Aby", this name spelling thing is got to be resolved in the FAQ, I >>think that the FAQ is going to need an update, Dana! we need that new FAQ, >>desperately! > >No conflict here, guys. "Abby" is short for "Abigail", whereas "Abbey" >strictly refers to >Monasteries with an attitude (don't take my word for it, ask Miriam Webster). How do I supposed to know which name do I use, a FAQ is needed to explain this. >>>In "Ghost Pilot" Callie is on the >>>phone with her and says "Thanks Abbey (Aby)". >> >>Why she call her by her first name? does Callie know her well? > >Hard to tell. You get the idea they have some kind of history from >Callie's dialogue concerning >her in "The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice" - though Callie (I think) >always says things like >"thanks, Dr. Sinian" rather than "Abby". Yes, this is why I was a little bit confuse, Callie call her Dr.Sinian in "The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice", then she call her Abby in "Ghost Pilot", does this mean that they are a little bit closer after "The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice"? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 03:12:17 +0700 Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >It's very unusual to have anybody on the streets above the grade of corporal, >why many officers are loathe to get promoted out of the NCO ranks and >sentenced to >pencil-pushing duty until retirement. There are many exceptions. One of them is when a villain (Or big time criminal) is wrecking your city to pieces, now that is a exception, and the Enforcer sure have enough of that "exception". From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 03:12:15 +0700 Subject: Re: Anybody here? >>>Hmmm..., it seems that everybody is gone for the hollidays, >>I'm not goin' anywhere. I get to stay home. > >Me too...though we have the family-thing happening all weekend. Something >big is going >down at Hanna-Barbera at the moment, but the details are really sketchy. >I'll post it when >I can. Just let us know as soon as you found out about this *big thing*. >>>1. Do you think that the SwatKats need an ally? (I got a character who >>>supposed to be their ally) >>Don't they have many already? (Callie, Felina, Hackle, etc.) > >A character I had in mind would be a peripheral ally, but I really don't >think we need a >"third Swat Kat", if that's the concept. Yes, I think two is enough, although my cable TV guide booklets (The one that I usualy get every month) says that the TurboKat is sometimes considered as the Third SwatKats, does this is true? >>>3. Is it okay if I deviated a little from the series? >>What does "deviated" mean? > >Hey, it's fanfic - your arena, your game. Great! thanks for the advice chance! :-) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 03:36:31 +0700 Subject: Re: Brazilian SK fan >> Hello, everybody. > >We have a life, it's just that we don't want Turner to find out.... Or he will surely drain ours. >> I'm from Sao Paulo, Brazil, and love SWAT KATS. >> Here, SK is shown at 2 stations: > >Well, Brazil beats Canada then...we don't get it on any. Another point for Brazil, the only way I can watch SwatKats here, is only by Cartoon Network. From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 13:47:33 -0800 Subject: Re: Anybody here? >Just let us know as soon as you found out about this *big thing*. Yes, I'll do that. Probably have to wait until Wednesday though. >Yes, I think two is enough, although my cable TV guide booklets (The one >that I usualy get every month) says that the TurboKat is sometimes >considered as the Third SwatKats, does this is true? Yep. That "third SwatKat" stuff I've seen elsewhere as well. I think it comes from some of the earlier Hanna-Barbera promotional literature, and was likely passed on to TCN along with the series. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 13:52:19 -0800 Subject: Re: Brazilian SK fan >Another point for Brazil, the only way I can watch SwatKats here, is only >by Cartoon Network. When I get a minute, I think I'll pass on a big "Thank you" from all the Katfans to TCN, as they're the only folks who seem to realize people like the show. In fact, all things being equal, TCN *should* have the autonomy to be able to order further SwatKats episodes from Hanna-Barbera. Even networks with a 65 ep syndication package of a popular show can only run the eps just so many times before having to supplement them with the occasional new offering, and "SwatKats" only has 23 (well, 24 including the "Katseye News" special, but TCN doesn't know it exists!). Face it, "Jonny" is horribly behind schedule, and the WPT's alone can't carry Hanna-Barbera through the long cartoon winter until Fall '96. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 13:44:25 -0800 Subject: Re: Dr.Sinian. > >How do I supposed to know which name do I use, a FAQ is needed to explain this. I suppose it isn't much of a surprise, but the FAQ needs a major re-write. Dana's stuff is all great, but some of it is outdated, and there's a bunch more info to add. >Yes, this is why I was a little bit confuse, Callie call her Dr.Sinian in >"The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice", then she call her Abby in "Ghost >Pilot", does this mean that they are a little bit closer after "The >Pastmaster Always Rings Twice"? Nah. Usually when you are introduced to someone for the first time, the conversation immediately afterward is usually salted with the awkward "Mr. So-and-so" in both directions until someone decides it's silly. After working with Dr. Sinian on the "Rings Twice" ep, Callie obviously feels comfortable enough with her to use the more familiar "Abby". It's the same everywhere, actually. _____________________________________________________________ "Is this going to take long? I have racquetball game at 2 o'clock..." -- "Russians" gang member Taras Filonov at his arraignment for "conspiracy to traffick" - complete with fuzzy wristband. ______________________________________________________________ From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 18:07:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: All figures found! If you have trouble finding all 4 SK figs, go to Kay-Bee and Toyz-R-Us in North Carolina. I got them for X-mas A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From bruno.abud@mandic.com.br Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: bruno.abud@mandic.com.br (BRUNO ABUD) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 95 21:43:00 -0200 Subject: Re: Brazilian SK fan Hello: > Unfortunately, Gazeta (brazilian non-cable station) has the > lowest audience among all the 7 brazilian stations, but SK > has the highest audience in this station. Ch> As far as I know (subject to correction), "SwatKats: The Radical Ch> Squadron" is o ne of Ch> "The Cartoon Network"'s most highly rated shows. I think "Space Ghost Ch> Coast-to -Coast" Ch> is like #4 or something. Guess I'll have to ask the Toonnet guy. During a SK ad at Gazeta, the announcer told it's the number 1 toon in audience in U.S. (it was 10/94). As the #1 in Gazeta, Swat Kats are watched by + - 150.000 (only in Sao Paulo). Here some curiosities about SK in Brazil: 1- The proper names are the same as the original (T-Bone, Razor, Jake, Chance, Ferral, Dark Kat, MegaKat City, etc.) , except for Mayor Manx ("Prefeito Manx"), Miss Briggs ("Senhorita Briggs") and "The Radical Squadron" ("O Esquadrao Radical"). 2- In american version, Razor's voice is acuter than T-Bone's. In Brazil, T-Bone, with all that powerness, has a keen voice. And Razor has a hoarse voice. And brazilian version destructed the funny voice of Mayor Manx. 3- Gazeta didn't acquired the second season of SK. Bruno Abud Radio Educadora AM/FM bruno.abud@mandic.com.br ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.21 [NR] From fayxx001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: Timothy D Fay Date: Mon, 25 Dec 95 19:22:13 -0600 Subject: Re: All figures found! I've never found _any_ of them. If any kind list-member can help me acquire at least a T-Bone and a Razor, I would be much obliged... -Tim From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 11:24:10 +0700 Subject: 10 things that will never happen on the series. (Humour) 10. MegaKat is actualy safe, and doesn't need help from either the SwatKats or the Enforcer. 9. Dark Kat actual plans for MegaKat city is to turn it to a theme park. 8. From the beginning to the end, Callie doesn't even talk to the SwatKats (Well, "Razor Edge" doesn't count, she doesn't even there) 7. The Pastmaster actualy doesn't show any interest on any girl that look like Queen Callista. 6. Th Enforcer actualy can deal with a big crisis, and doesn't need a help from the SwatKats. 5. Mayor Manx finaly acting like a real mayor. (Well, I mean what a mayor supposed to do, a real mayor actualy act like him) 4. Callie gets in trouble and can get out of trouble by herself without any help from the SwatKats. (Hey! if there is no one to be rescued, when is the SwatKats can get any action?) 3. A Cyclotron finaly can be considered as a safe vehicle. (They just keep having a bad vehicle with this) 2. A TurboKat is destroyed and doesn't get rebuild again. (This is Ted Turner wishes) 1. Felina is actualy seen with a dress. (Tell me which episode that have her with a dress, I haven't see it, yet!) Hope you like it, and please don't tell Razor to deployed a missile on me if you don't like it. This list is dedicated to Mark Lungo, who wishes the paralel world in "the Dark sides of the SwatKats" could have been better paralel world thing. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 12:23:19 +0700 Subject: Wacky list of toys. Well since almost everybody here is gone for the hollidays, how about if we (the one who are here right now) make a little list on what toys that is based on the SwatKats maybe look like, like an action figure of Feral that can actualy talk and ask for Chopper backup, a doll that is modeled just like Callie (Of course there is still problem the lack of dress and the unfallable glasses), a SwatKats communicator that can speak and respond to you, a radio control model of the Cyclotron (WARNING, don't play this on the street), an action figure of Felina with her gun like grapling hook (This action figure can be put on every vehicle in the Enforcer vehicle lines), etc Since this is your fantasy, go wacky on these list, don't let anything standing in your way, just go crazy with this one. From leetwail@iscs.nus.sg Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: Leet Wai Leong Simon Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 13:32:45 +0800 (GMT-8) Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... On Mon, 25 Dec 1995, chance wrote: > The Enforcers are almost a direct cross between the Military and Police > forces of most countries, and an exact parallel to Singapore's Police Force > (watch that gum!). *Sigh* Almost, almost ... too bad there aren't any targets big enough for them to use their REALLY big guns on ... think one guy finally snapped and pulled a bazooka on a gum chewer ... ;) > It's very unusual to have anybody on the streets above the grade of corporal, > though sergeants are often on the sites of radar traps, safety checks, or > other operations in a supervisory capacity, or driving around as the shift > supervisor in an "on call" type role. I believe there was some speculation as to the SWATKats' ranks before they were kicked out from the Enforcers ... anyone remember what it was? My memory fails me ... > Lieutenant and above are almost always desk-jockeys, Which makes Lt. Feral an interesting exception, no? Isn't gun-toting Rambo-ish machismo frowned upon at that rank? Wonder if that special privilege has anything to do with her uncle ... Simon Leet :) - "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a savior, which is Christ the Lord." - Luke 2:11 From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 15:08:13 +0700 Subject: Re: Dr.Sinian. >>a FAQ is needed to explain this. > >I suppose it isn't much of a surprise, but the FAQ needs a major re-write. >Dana's stuff >is all great, but some of it is outdated, and there's a bunch more info to add. Yes, maybe it is time that the FAQ needs a major rewrite, after all, when is the last time the FAQ was updated? >>does this mean that they are a little bit closer after "The >>Pastmaster Always Rings Twice"? > >Nah. After working with Dr. Sinian on the "Rings Twice" ep, >Callie obviously feels comfortable enough with her to use >the more familiar "Abby". It's the same everywhere, actually. Ok! which one do I use? Abby? Aby? Abigail? or Abbey? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 16:03:21 +0700 Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... On Tue, 26Dec 1995, Simon Leet wrote: >On Mon, 25 Dec 1995, chance wrote: >> It's very unusual to have anybody on the streets above the grade of corporal > >I believe there was some speculation as to the SWATKats' ranks before >they were kicked out from the Enforcers ... anyone remember what it was? >My memory fails me ... Yes, there is some speculation here on Jake and Chance rank, but there is no resolution (No answer) to that speculation, so the one who know they ranks is probaly the guys, Feral, a couple of Enforcer, and maybe the creator of the SwatKats. >> Lieutenant and above are almost always desk-jockeys, > >Which makes Lt. Feral an interesting exception, no? Isn't gun-toting >Rambo-ish machismo frowned upon at that rank? Wonder if that special >privilege has anything to do with her uncle ... Well, I don't think so, her uncle doesn't want her to get hurt, Feral always leave out Felina from the attacking team when ever a dangerous situation appear, although I think that Feral maybe let her do some non office job, just as along it isn't very dangerous. BTW, this could also explain Steel(e) behaviour. ;-) >Simon Leet :) From lsetnor@got.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: lsetnor@got.net (Leslie Setnor) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 11:13:51 -0800 Subject: Re: All figures found! >I've never found _any_ of them. If any kind list-member can help me >acquire at least a T-Bone and a Razor, I would be much obliged... > >-Tim If you haven't seen them at a "K-Mart" or any other "-Marts", I'd be happy to send them. Karen Setnor lsetnor@got.net mcjd61b@prodigy.com From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 01:27:16 +0700 Subject: Dogfight, or is it Katfight? How do the kats call a Dogfight? do they call it a Dogfight or a Katfight? From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 12:17:11 -0800 Subject: Re: 10 things that will never happen on the series. (Humour) >9. Dark Kat actual plans for MegaKat city is to turn it to a theme park. ...and pulls back his hood to reveal "Mouse Ears" while cackling maniacally in conjunction with similarly attired Creeplings... >8. From the beginning to the end, Callie doesn't even talk to the SwatKats > (Well, "Razor Edge" doesn't count, she doesn't even there) ...she makes "Moon eyes" at the two Kat guys standing next to Feral, and as they both close their eyes in anticipation of a kiss, she walks right past them and plants one on Feral. As Count Floyd would say, "oooohhh....sssccaaarrryyy"... >7. The Pastmaster actualy doesn't show any interest on any girl that look >like Queen Callista. ...and shows up to the annual MegaKat City Villains Ball arm-in-arm with Leona Helmsley... > (Hey! if there is no one to be rescued, when is the SwatKats can get >any action?) Heh. I'm not touching this one.... >This list is dedicated to Mark Lungo, who wishes the paralel world in "the >Dark sides of the SwatKats" could have been better paralel world thing. Yeah, like he mentioned, the "parallel world" thing only selectively flipped the character's alignments, but it was still a pretty good ep (something about "evil" Razor and the extra-gruff voice that's really cool. Guess he's saving that for cross-examination in court now that he's a full-fledged lawyer). _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 12:22:26 -0800 Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >On Mon, 25 Dec 1995, chance wrote: >I believe there was some speculation as to the SWATKats' ranks before >they were kicked out from the Enforcers ... anyone remember what it was? >My memory fails me ... > >> Lieutenant and above are almost always desk-jockeys, > >Which makes Lt. Feral an interesting exception, no? Isn't gun-toting >Rambo-ish machismo frowned upon at that rank? Wonder if that special >privilege has anything to do with her uncle ... Both Los Angeles and Houston have helicopter divisions of their respective police forces, and you don't normally find a pilot below the grade of Sergeant (though the weapons officer/engineer is often simply a "Patrolman"). Since we've seen an example of how much more mature the average Megakat City "Sergeant" is than our Kat guys, I'd have to guess that they're just the Patrolman/"Officer" -Constable type grade. (Oh yeah, the "Sergeant" to which I refer is the rather gruff, brown-uniformed dude occasionally seen talking to Feral). _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 18:30:46 -0800 Subject: Turnercom... I don't know what order these posts will arrive in, but you'll either be reading or have read something I've just posted to the Animation newsgroups and alt.tv.swatkats regarding that "development" at H-B I was talking about earlier. There are more than a few people who think this is the last nail in H-B's coffin. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 02:12:56 GMT Subject: Ted's Christmas Bonus Just before Christmas, Turner Entertainment's Christmas Bonus to a few top Hanna-Barbera personnel was a Pink Slip. "Jonny Quest" producers Takashi, Peter Lawrence, and another executive have been fired in light of the fact that nearly 9 million dollars has failed to yield even a single airable episode of "New Adventures of Jonny Quest". Sources at Turner are said to be in favour of complete abandonment of the project, but merchandising agreements already in place to coincide with the projected release of the show prevent any form of easy about-face for the Turner execs. The three fired individuals have all had extensive experience in the TV Animation field, and if any "blame" is to be laid for the continued inablility of Turner to get their collective act together, I personally think it must be placed squarely at the feet of those Turner blue-suits who royally screwed up "Pirates of Dark Water" and "SwatKats", rather than the all-too-convenient scapegoats currently working out their severance pay. Nine million bucks, huh? This kind of fruitless expenditure from an organization who thought the same amount for 23 episodes of "SwatKats: The Radical Squadron" to be 'extravagant'? Perhaps if TPS would like to find out why "Jonny" is drowning, they should take a long, hard look at what they wanted for "Jonny" in the first place. Wildey's "Jonny" has been, and remains, the definitive "Jonny", but those H-B personnel familiar with the original series and the concepts behind it were kept off the "Jonny" crew by the same mentality that now threatens to kill the project altogether. TPS, before forging any further ahead, maybe take a look at where you've been in the harshest possible light. *Then* start writing Pink Slips. ______________________________________________________________________________ "...animation takes a long time. Balto took three years. When your team works together for that long, things get done. Good things sometimes just happen." -- Amblimation's Steve Hickner ______________________________________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 02:11:36 GMT Subject: Ted's Christmas Bonus Just before Christmas, Turner Entertainment's Christmas Bonus to a few top Hanna-Barbera personnel was a Pink Slip. "Jonny Quest" producers Takashi, Peter Lawrence, and another executive have been fired in light of the fact that nearly 9 million dollars has failed to yield even a single airable episode of "New Adventures of Jonny Quest". Sources at Turner are said to be in favour of complete abandonment of the project, but merchandising agreements already in place to coincide with the projected release of the show prevent any form of easy about-face for the Turner execs. The three fired individuals have all had extensive experience in the TV Animation field, and if any "blame" is to be laid for the continued inablility of Turner to get their collective act together, I personally think it must be placed squarely at the feet of those Turner blue-suits who royally screwed up "Pirates of Dark Water" and "SwatKats", rather than the all-too-convenient scapegoats currently working out their severance pay. Nine million bucks, huh? This kind of fruitless expenditure from an organization who thought the same amount for 23 episodes of "SwatKats: The Radical Squadron" to be 'extravagant'? Perhaps if TPS would like to find out why "Jonny" is drowning, they should take a long, hard look at what they wanted for "Jonny" in the first place. Wildey's "Jonny" has been, and remains, the definitive "Jonny", but those H-B personnel familiar with the original series and the concepts behind it were kept off the "Jonny" crew by the same mentality that now threatens to kill the project altogether. TPS, before forging any further ahead, maybe take a look at where you've been in the harshest possible light. *Then* start writing Pink Slips. ______________________________________________________________________________ "...animation takes a long time. Balto took three years. When your team works together for that long, things get done. Good things sometimes just happen." -- Amblimation's Steve Hickner ______________________________________________________________________________ From mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net (David Minter) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 21:46:28 -0600 Subject: Re: Anybody here? >3. Is it okay if I deviated a little from the series? Well, this group has seemed to allow my "Southern Sunshine." And, if having Ted Turner disguised as Dark Kat destroying the entire Kat universe with a simple remote control isn't deviating a little from the series, I'd like to read your story. :> David Minter mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net ( What an original signature! ) From mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net (David Minter) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 21:46:24 -0600 Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >Just hit a snag while writing my fanfic ... how are Enforcers ranked >anyway? Like the police? Like the army? Like the air force?! As far as I >know, no organization has "Commander" as the top-dog rank, but if the Lt. >is the next highest ranked (like Steele) then it would probably be closer >to police ranks ... any opinions folks? Better yet, any real >organizations which parallel the Enforcers? (doubtful as it may seem ...) I've always had the impression that they were more like the National Guard. David Minter mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net ( What an original signature! ) From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 09:36:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Last part of the Animato! article - Season Two ep guide On Sat, 23 Dec 1995, chance wrote: > Let me do the covers though - at least *I* know what colour Razor's nose is. So do I. It's a bright white!!! ;-) A.J. Freda Molly: "Where'd you learn to drive, the ah518@leo.nmc.edu demolishion derby? "Tails" on IRC Mac: "So I ran a couple of stop signs." Molly: "Yeah, and here they all are!" From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 09:39:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Last part of the Animato! article - Season Two ep guide How about having a broken in chunks one and a complete one? I'm not FTP-deprived, and I don't like cutting and pasting for a whole hour. :) A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 09:44:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: which character that you choose? On Sun, 24 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > Good idea, maybe we should name this "the roof party", anyone you want to > invite? :-) Hehehe. Gotta draw this one. Dr. Viper, Dark Kat, Creeplings, T-Bone and Razor, all with little party hats on eating cake..with those little things you blow into and they go TWEEEEEEEET! Oh yeah, Metallikats too. Maybe Zed, even. :) A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 09:40:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Steel(e), great character? On Sun, 24 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > Since he only appear in two episode ("The Wrath of Dark Kat" and "Enter the > MadKat", well at least that is what I think), and we talk about him like he > is the regular character, we even talk the possibilities of that he is > related to Razor, maybe we should consider his possibilities as a regular > character in the kats universe. Steel got fired after the 1st season. Felina took his place. I don't blame Feral for firing him. A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 09:46:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Will the SwatKats give up TurboKat? On Sun, 24 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > Since we all see the TurboKat always try to be ejected, but never destroyed > (I never seen a TurboKat destroyed before), just let say that some villain > is in control inside Enforcer HQ, and there is no way to eliminate the > problem unless you destroy the entire building, the SwatKats can activated > all their explosive weapon and headed the TurboKat to the building, this > could be make a great ending (Until the new TurboKat is rebuild again of > course), anyone want to write a fanfic about this? Hate to burst your bubble POP! but the TBKat got destroyed in Katastrophe and Enter the MadKat, and I think a few others. A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 09:53:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Dr.Sinnian. On Sun, 24 Dec 1995 CNbL@aol.com wrote: > Just in case you didn't see the ep yet, her full name is Abbey (Aby) > Sinian (I'm not sure how it's spelled). In "Ghost Pilot" Callie is on the > phone with her and says "Thanks Abbey (Aby)" It should be spelled "Abby" cause Abbey would be pronounced "ABAYY" and Aby would be pronounced "AYY-BEE" > Merry Christmas, > Happy Hanukkah, > Merry Cobb's day, > Happy Yaksmas, > or whatever. Happy Happy, Joy Joy! A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 09:47:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Will the SwatKats give up TurboKat? On Sun, 24 Dec 1995, chance wrote: > >Since we all see the TurboKat always try to be ejected, but never destroyed > >(I never seen a TurboKat destroyed before), just let say that some villain > >is in control inside Enforcer HQ, and there is no way to eliminate the > >problem unless you destroy the entire building, the SwatKats can activated > >all their explosive weapon and headed the TurboKat to the building, this > >could be make a great ending (Until the new TurboKat is rebuild again of > >course), anyone want to write a fanfic about this? > > It's destroyed twice, I think...once in "Enter the MadKat", and the other in "Katastrophe". > (I think it's "Enter" where Manx says "...and of course your jet, SWAT Kats..."). > Oops. Sorry. I haven't checked my mail for a few days. :) A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:29:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. hmmm. Generic Enforcer action figures, Talking Feral that says "I hate vigilanties!" when you pull his string on his back. Callie barbie dressup doll. Pastmaster's watch that tells time. Mac and Molly costumes out of real metal. Like armor with glowing red eyes with Nerf(c) cannon. "Build Your Own Doomsday Device" from Dark Kat industries. A bottle of REAL Viper mutagen so you can turn your self into a mutation. (Recommmended for childen above 3 years of age.) SWAT Kat Happy Meal Life-size T-Bone and Razor Talking Lt. Steele that says: "Back off! This area is under Enforcer control!" Pet Creeplings MadKat jack in the box Raise your own Ci-Kat-As Zed to repair broken stuff Inflatable 30 ft. Ballon of Rex Shard in crystal "Grow Your Own Giant Bacteria" A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:43:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Question about SK MOV what is the SK quicktime about? A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:43:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Purple dino missle? >PURPLE DINOSAUR MISSLE, DEPLOYED!!! What did Barney ever do to deserve this? A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 23:22:15 +0700 Subject: Re: Steel(e), great character? >On Sun, 24 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > >Steel got fired after the 1st season. Felina took his place. I don't >blame Feral for firing him. When? is it after "Enter the MadKat"? how is Feral word when he fired Steel? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 23:21:56 +0700 Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >>On Mon, 25 Dec 1995, chance wrote: > >>I believe there was some speculation as to the SWATKats' ranks before >>they were kicked out from the Enforcers ... anyone remember what it was? >>My memory fails me ... > >Since we've seen an example of how much more mature the average >Megakat City "Sergeant" is than our Kat guys, I'd have to guess that >they're just the Patrolman/"Officer" >-Constable type grade. Does this mean that Steel(e) has a higher rank than the Kat guys? BTW, let's speculated what Steel(e) doing when the Kat guys are kick out from the Enforcer, is he still in the academy? or already a lieutenant? or still a civilian? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 23:22:16 +0700 Subject: He! so I make a few mistake. It seem that I have make a couple few mistake, like the TurboKat, Steel, and a couple of silly thing, Sorry! but these are the only episode that I have watched so far. -The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice -The Wrath of Dark Kat -The Metallikats -The Bride of the Pastmaster -Mutation City -A Bright and Shiny Future -When Strikes Mutilor -Razor Edge -The Deadly Pyramid And I presumed that you know how to subtract, so I just won't mention the other episode that I haven't watched (And the last three episode that haven't been aired). Hmmm, better e-mail "toonnet@aol .com" if I still watched those episode after the new year, and not watching any new ones. Sorry for this annoucement, but I thought that you guys better know about this. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 23:21:52 +0700 Subject: Re: 10 things that will never happen on the series. (Humor) >>8. From the beginning to the end, Callie doesn't even talk to the SwatKats > >...she makes "Moon eyes" at the two Kat guys standing next to Feral, and >as they both >close their eyes in anticipation of a kiss, she walks right past them and >plants one on Feral. >As Count Floyd would say, "oooohhh....sssccaaarrryyy"... Scary indeed, I shiver when ever I think of that. >>7. The Pastmaster actualy doesn't show any interest on any girl that look >>like Queen Callista. > >...and shows up to the annual MegaKat City Villains Ball arm-in-arm with >Leona Helmsley... Good one! :-) anybody want to add to this one? >>This list is dedicated to Mark Lungo, who wishes the paralel world in "the >>Dark sides of the SwatKats" could have been better paralel world thing. > >Yeah, like he mentioned, the "parallel world" thing only selectively >flipped the character's >alignments, but it was still a pretty good ep. How is Mark Lungo doing on his fanfic thing? Ok! anybody want to add this list? come people! just for laugh sake, let get silly on this one. From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:44:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Dogfight, or is it Katfight? At 01:27 AM 12/27/95 +0700, you wrote: >How do the kats call a Dogfight? do they call it a Dogfight or a Katfight? I believe they mention "dogfighting" in "The Ghost Pilot" ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:44:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Kat-ching up... At 06:08 AM 12/21/95 -0500, you wrote: >> Ah.. The spelling of Callie's name.. [snip] >Disney TV Animation. I'm basing my spelling of Miz Briggs' name off one >episode where a placard on her desk clearly shows it written with two 'l's. Hmm.. I don't ever recall seeing her name written down anywhere. Do you remember what ep. that was in? >Affirmative. Actually, the characters in the office at the time are >T-Bone, Razor, the Lieutenant, Callie Briggs and the one Kat who was robbed >(was his name ever mentioned)? His name was never mentioned. However, if you've ever seen the movie "Gremlins", you'll know _exactly_ where the scene comes from. ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:45:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. >Since this is your fantasy, go wacky on these list, don't let anything >standing in your way, just go crazy with this one. Heh. this list will get wackier farther down. A _complete_ video collection on LD & VHS (but especially LD!) A CD with music from the show A glovatrix that plugs into the computer or SNES to use as a controller. A Win95 theme (which is my next project) A Turbokat big enough to put the action figures into (the figs. are 6" tall) with lights & sounds. A life-size cut-out of TB & R (ala ST:TNG characters you've seen) A wallpaper mural of the inside of the hangar. A *real* cyclotron (heh. I've got a motorcycle license!) A Dr. Viper chemistry set complete with mutagens & DNA from a creepling for cloning (AJ!) Hmm.. that's a start! ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:24:59 -0800 Subject: Re: Steel(e), great character? >>On Sun, 24 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: >> >>Steel got fired after the 1st season. Felina took his place. I don't >>blame Feral for firing him. > >When? is it after "Enter the MadKat"? how is Feral word when he fired Steel? Steele never got fired, A.J. is just yanking our tails. Actually, even if a real-life officer was as mouthy and back-stabbing as Steele, there'd be very little you could do to remove him aside from fragging his furry behind. Sadly, incompetence and arrogance get promoted, and Steele is *definitely* in line for Feral's throne once the "Top Kat" steps down, or is stepped on, or whatever. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:44:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Steel's name, and Kristmas Kats Sorry I've been away for so long -- I've been having email problems! At 06:54 PM 12/19/95 -0800, you wrote: >>Hmm.. perhaps something from "Katrina's Secret" for Callie.. > >Callie needs at least one change of clothes...maybe she'd look somewhat cool in an evening >gown or something during a future episode. It would be kind of interesting to see them all >invited to some kind of large MegaKat City social function - you know, where they'd all >have to dress up. Can you imagine either Jake or Chance in a *tie*? Dunno about Jake, but >I'm sure Chance would agree with me when I say that "a tie is essentially a Noose with an >attitude". Heh. KATS ALIVE! That's _exactly_ the fan artwork I've been off-and-on working at! If you've happened to notice that the teaser pic of "calliedm.gif" shows our beloved Deputy Mayor in a slightly low-cut dress, it's because it's actually an evening gown! I planned on putting Chance & Jake (or TB & R) in Tuxedos - escorting Callie to a formal dinner (probably the re-re-opening of MegaKat Tower ). Well, you know what they say: Great minds think alike! ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:44:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Last part of the Animato! article - Season Two ep guide >>15. BRIGHT AND SHINY FUTURE >> >>The Pastmaster sends T-Bone and Razor to Megakat City's near future -- a >>nightmare world where The Metallikats rule as fascist dictators, killer >>robots confine "non-metallic creatures" to slave labor camps, the SWAT >>Kats' friends are fugitive freedom fighters, and the SWAT Kats' future >>selves are dead. >> >Are the SwatKats are going to die in the future? but then again when >someone travel through time, you could never be sure what the future will >look like. The more I think about it, the more the story-line of this ep. bugs me. *Why* would the Pastmaster & the Metallikats want to bring TB & R back from the past when they're already dead in the time which they take over the city? Callie & Feral said they saw the Turbokat destroyed (and they showed it smashing into that building). Unless they ejected at the last moment & have been hiding for years, they're dead and any of the villians could do whatever they want. If you ask me, it was pretty stupid on the part of PM & Metallikats to even *think* of bringing the SK into the future just to destroy them again. Hmm.. maybe I shouldn't be so critical -- afterall, it's not real life! :) ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:44:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Brazilian SK fan At 01:52 PM 12/25/95 -0800, you wrote: >When I get a minute, I think I'll pass on a big "Thank you" from all the Katfans to >TCN, as they're the only folks who seem to realize people like the show. In fact, all things >being equal, TCN *should* have the autonomy to be able to order further SwatKats episodes Good idea! TCN seems to be much more responsive to the fans than anyone from "the other side". And I do agree that TCN should have some authority over continuation of a series. Let's face it -- TCN knows what they're doing. They're promoting Kats a lot more and put them into a decent time-slot. Thumbs up TCN! >from Hanna-Barbera. Even networks with a 65 ep syndication package of a popular show >can only run the eps just so many times before having to supplement them with the occasional >new offering, and "SwatKats" only has 23 (well, 24 including the "Katseye News" special, but >TCN doesn't know it exists!). Face it, "Jonny" is horribly behind schedule, and the WPT's >alone can't carry Hanna-Barbera through the long cartoon winter until Fall '96. Heh. I've seen all the episodes several times now, and I still watch it every day! The fact that it's right between Capt. Planet & Johnny Q. makes SK seem to be a better offering than anything else Ted has. Heh. I don't turn the TV on until 5:30EST (when CP is over) and change the channel at 6EST after SK. ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:24:51 -0800 Subject: Re: which character that you choose? >On Sun, 24 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > >> Good idea, maybe we should name this "the roof party", anyone you want to >> invite? :-) > >Hehehe. Gotta draw this one. Dr. Viper, Dark Kat, Creeplings, T-Bone and >Razor, all with little party hats on eating cake..with those little >things you blow into and they go TWEEEEEEEET! Oh yeah, Metallikats too. >Maybe Zed, even. :) Oh, I just had a thought of pure evil...how about, in addition to the party favours above, a wonderful round-robin game of "pin the tail on the Turner", with a big-butted caricature of the Tedster on his hands and knees with a "Col. Sanders" face painted on his bare backside and a "bullseye" for a nose? The first pin to find it's mark will bring an all new meaning to "Song of the South". _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:44:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Ted's Christmas Bonus At 02:12 AM 12/27/95 GMT, you wrote: >"Jonny Quest" producers Takashi, Peter Lawrence, and another executive have been >fired in light of the fact that nearly 9 million dollars has failed to yield >even a single airable episode of "New Adventures of Jonny Quest". Sources at >Turner are said to be in favour of complete abandonment of the project, but >merchandising agreements already in place to coincide with the projected release >of the show prevent any form of easy about-face for the Turner execs. Hmm.. $9 million? Where the heck did that kinda cash go? I haven't even seen any commercials for JQ besides the TCN promotions of the old shows. I betcha it didn't cost that much for WB to make that short of "Toby Dangerous"... >Nine million bucks, huh? This kind of fruitless expenditure from an >organization who thought the same amount for 23 episodes of "SwatKats: The >Radical Squadron" to be 'extravagant'? Perhaps if TPS would like to find out >why "Jonny" is drowning, they should take a long, hard look at what they wanted >for "Jonny" in the first place. Wildey's "Jonny" has been, and remains, the >definitive "Jonny", but those H-B personnel familiar with the original series >and the concepts behind it were kept off the "Jonny" crew by the same mentality >that now threatens to kill the project altogether. When will they learn that you can't copy an original, much less try to improve on it. It's already been tried with that poorly done 2nd run of JQ. *sigh* Sorry.. I'm just totally disgusted right now! ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:44:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: JQ vs. Cyber Insects >all of them agree that cancellation was a really bonehead >play though, and the dissenters only really agree with it >based on believing that the incompetence displayed by Turner >marketing would likely continue and kill Hanna-Barbera >altoghether. Nobody this year has any bona-fide hits, and >new eps of the Kats on a network like Fox would've killed >everything for miles and left a really big crater. True, very true! Seems that anyone I've talked to (in RL) hasn't heard of SK. I've loaned some of my videotapes to a few people and they love it. Heh. I even drew a picture of T-Bone for my art class & told everyone where & when the show aired! >WB is currently developing "Superman:The Animated Series" >but it's *woefully* behind schedule. CBS' ac/adv efforts >last year in the Jim Lee/Marvel vein all bombed, and this >is the last year (rumouredly) for "X-Men", and certainly >the last for BTAS. I'm sorry, but I think Superman's been _way_ overdone. Anyone who's a fan of "Lois & Clark" would probably have a hard time with TAS (I know I would). And the comic books have already killed Superman & then brought him back from the dead -- what gives? I really liked B:TAS, but it has grown old now and I haven't watched in a long time. I stopped watching X-men after the 2nd season -- Marvel just doesn't do it for me anymore. The market has been saturated with mutant this and that. How many human/mutant toons are on in one Saturday morning block? It's too many if you ask me. >"SwatKats" in this market with second-season production >values and the odd OAV to help promote it? Unreal...I'd >put lottery winnings into that scheme. If "The New >Adventures of Jonny Quest" bombs for Turner Programming >Services - that's it. All their eggs are in one basket, >and I doubt Time-Warner will be that interested in trying >to clean up the resulting mess. Do you mean "if" or "when" it bombs? $9M bucks with nothing to show. 'nuff said. WPT? Please! I didn't think that any of these were _spectacular_. At least not in a way that they merit their own series. Out of all the shows that have come out of TPS, Turner axed the only one that could have competed with shows like TMNT (in it's glory days) or MMPR. ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:25:02 -0800 Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >Does this mean that Steel(e) has a higher rank than the Kat guys? Oh yeah, Steele is *definitely* a higher rank than the Kats. In reality, I doubt T-Bone would've made it above Corporal/Sergeant because he'd do anything to remain "hands-on", and wouldn't likely play the political games required to get promoted above NCO. Also, here anyway, one of the prerequisites for attaining the higher ranks was a University level education...something I suspect T-Bone wouldn't have, despite not being a "dummy-Kat" by any stretch of the imagination. Razor? Dunno...he might be promotable, but I doubt he'd Kow-Tow to Steele and his ilk either for very long. The price of advancement is too high. Feral is the equivalent of some of the Police Chiefs we see slowly being rotated out as members of "The Old School" like Darryl Gates from L.A., our own Bob Stewart in Vancouver and so on. They're "get the job done" kinda guys, but don't have the "Politically Correct" office-skills required to avoid stubbing toes in the process. Feral's one of those guys that belongs in a glass box with a sign that says "break in case of trouble" - as he certainly isn't the kind of 90's "sensitive" law-enforcement official that seems to be all the rage. >BTW, let's speculated what Steel(e) doing when the Kat guys are kick out >from the Enforcer, is he still in the academy? or already a lieutenant? or >still a civilian? Nah. Steele would've been at his current grade when the Kat guys got hoofed out, snickering on the sidelines. I would not at all be surprised if they'd rubbed noses with each other on some occasion previous to the first ep of the show, as Steele would tend to be one of those administrative people that's always in your face just to remind you who's boss. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:24:54 -0800 Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. >hmmm. > >Generic Enforcer action figures, Double "hmmm"...here's the list of what was intended for the Kats from the outset. Paws up all those who would've bought the lot.... 1) The SWAT Kat Playset with electronic sound Glovatrix, flight helmet and flight vest. Be your favourite SWAT Kat! Action Figures: 2) Razor & T-Bone Action Figures with removable Glovatrix & Flight helmet. 3) Callie Briggs with Beeping Signal Device. (ed: she was going to be given a special briefcase later on). 4) Commander Feral with Sidearm 5) Dr. Viper with Plantimals 6) The Pastmaster with Tome of Time and Casket of the Ages. 7) The Metallikats with an assortment of Multi-Weapon Arms. 8) Madkat with a Bag of Assorted Tricks 9) Dark Kat with the Creeplings 10) Megakat City Enforcer with Riot Gear. Other Cool Stuff! : 11) The Deluxe Turbokat! With MovableWings, Hover Jets and Landing Gear, Missile Launch Function and 4 realistic Electronic Sounds! Holds Razor and T-Bone Figures (sold separately). 12) The Multi-Leveled Swat Kat Secret Hangar! With Turbokat Turntable and Launch Function! (Turbokat sold separately). 13) The Cyclotron Missile/Motorcycle (???) 14) Enforcer Chopper 15) Enforcer Sedan 16) Dark Kat's Fear Ship 17) The Metallikat's Metallikraft 18) Enforcer Tank **Obviously, some of the ship names were changed later as the series progressed, and oh yeah, "batteries not included"! Notice no Manx or Felina at this stage of the game. >Talking Feral that says "I hate vigilanties!" when you pull his string on >his back. How about "I don't deal with Scum...." Heh. >Callie barbie dressup doll. With Razor as "Ken" (but man, lose the wardrobe..). We'll put the "MK" symbol on the side of Barbie's Beach Buggy and send them off to the sandbox for a picnic. >Pastmaster's watch that tells time. Yeah, "tells time" to go backwards, and forwards.....and stop. Mac and Molly costumes out of real metal. Like armor with glowing red >eyes with Nerf(c) cannon. Before it was judged a bit on the expensive side, apparently Mac and Molly would've been able to transform back and forth between their "Metallikat" and "Mobster" incarnations. Razor and T-Bone were likewise intended to be able to don flight suits and change from Razor to Jake and back...though I personally think this would've been tough, far better to have maybe one of each ac-fig instead. >"Build Your Own Doomsday Device" from Dark Kat industries. Heh. All the instructions would be in Arabic... >Life-size T-Bone and Razor Yeah. I would personally love either a king-size ac-fig for each of the main characters, and perhaps even a plushie or two thrown in for good measure. >Talking Lt. Steele that says: "Back off! This area is under Enforcer >control!" Or even better..."I want my mommy!". >Pet Creeplings Add water, stick them in a closet, and voila! Instant Creepling Chia-pet! >Zed to repair broken stuff I need a portable "Zed" for my Army Jeep...only I think it would be a battle who would take over who; my vehicles always seem to be a bit meglomaniacal themselves. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 02:53:04 +0700 Subject: Re: Dr.Sinnian. On Wed, 27 Dec 1995, A.J. wrote: >On Sun, 24 Dec 1995 CNbL@aol.com wrote: > >> Just in case you didn't see the ep yet, her full name is Abbey (Aby) >> Sinian (I'm not sure how it's spelled). In "Ghost Pilot" Callie is on the >> phone with her and says "Thanks Abbey (Aby)" > > It should be spelled "Abby" cause Abbey would be pronounced "ABAYY" and >Aby would be pronounced "AYY-BEE" I go with A.J. spelling, of course this still hasn't clarify her true name, when is the FAQ are going to come out? so that we finaly can agree on her name, Callie name, Steel name, and so on. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 02:53:09 +0700 Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. >>Since this is your fantasy, go wacky on these list, don't let anything >>standing in your way, just go crazy with this one. > >Heh. this list will get wackier farther down. > >A _complete_ video collection on LD & VHS (but especially LD!) Turner supposed to do that, but then again he ain't that smart. >A CD with music from the show A regular thing. >A glovatrix that plugs into the computer or SNES to use as a controller. I think that Nintendo already done that, remember "Power Glove"? of course if it is a real functioning Glovatrix, I think that it will sell. BTW, there is another glove like that, it was produced to be as a VR controler. >A Win95 theme (which is my next project) A win95 theme??? oh! the startup sound, how do you that? I want to try that too. >A Turbokat big enough to put the action figures into (the figs. are 6" tall) >with lights & sounds. Of course this have to be put in a really big place, a hangar is the perfect place for it. >A wallpaper mural of the inside of the hangar. >A *real* cyclotron (heh. I've got a motorcycle license!) Just hope that it also come with a good luck charm, or you will be toasted. >A Dr. Viper chemistry set complete with mutagens & DNA from a creepling for >cloning (AJ!) Definetly must not get to A.J. hands. >Hmm.. that's a start! And the list will continue! From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:31:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Steel(e), great character? Heh heh. Sorry. It never showed Feral firing Steele, and there can only be one Lt. in one force, correct? Well, if Felina, became Lt. in the 2nd season, Feral would have had to fire Steele to make room for Felina. A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:58:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. >Heh. All the instructions would be in Arabic.. That's okay. I have access to an English-Arabic Alphabet Poster! A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 02:53:06 +0700 Subject: Re: Last part of the Animato! article - Season Two ep guide >>>15. BRIGHT AND SHINY FUTURE >> >>Are the SwatKats are going to die in the future? but then again when >>someone travel through time, you could never be sure what the future will >>look like. > >The more I think about it, the more the story-line of this ep. bugs me. >*Why* would the Pastmaster & the Metallikats want to bring TB & R back from >the past when they're already dead in the time which they take over the >city? I think that the Pastmaster want to show off to the SwatKats (The one that come from the past), then again, the Pastmaster aren't too smart (Hey! this is the guy who cann't tell the different between Queen Callista and Miss Briggs). >Callie & Feral said they saw the Turbokat destroyed (and they showed >it smashing into that building). Unless they ejected at the last moment & >have been hiding for years, they're dead and any of the villians could do >whatever they want. Yeah! that's right, where are the other villains? >If you ask me, it was pretty stupid on the part of PM & >Metallikats to even *think* of bringing the SK into the future just to >destroy them again. No, the Pastmaster just want to show off, he planning to return them back, but the Metallikats destroy their alliance by attacking the Pastmaster. >Hmm.. maybe I shouldn't be so critical -- afterall, it's not real life! :) Good critics build, bad ones destroy. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 02:53:01 +0700 Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. >hmmm. > >Generic Enforcer action figures, ....that can fit on every Enforcer vehicle, and can carry any weapons. (Just like Felina action figures, but only it has a more generic look) >Talking Feral that says "I hate vigilanties!" when you pull his string on >his back. Don't forget to add his Enforcer communicator, and when you pressed the thing, it says "Bring me chooper back up!" >Callie barbie dressup doll. Hmmm, a good idea, of course when they have solve the dress problem, I'm sure that this will sell, the question is, who is the one who are going to buy them? which age? >Pastmaster's watch that tells time. I want one of those, I'm a Temporal neuratic, like time...., and travel, like it better when two is join. :-) >Mac and Molly costumes out of real metal. Like armor with glowing red >eyes with Nerf(c) cannon. Hey! that's like my fanfic character costume, of course the styling ain't Metallikats style. >"Build Your Own Doomsday Device" from Dark Kat industries. Not avaiable to people that aren't mentaly unstable, so that leaves me out of the picture. >A bottle of REAL Viper mutagen so you can turn your self into a mutation. >(Recommmended for childen above 3 years of age.) I'm sure that T-Bone aren't getting one of those, he has already have enough mutagen. >Life-size T-Bone and Razor Every SwatKats fans dream is to have one of those. >Talking Lt. Steele that says: "Back off! This area is under Enforcer >control!" He.he.he, want one of those too. :-) >Pet Creeplings I'm sure that A.J. will take those. :-) >Zed to repair broken stuff Nice handy stuff, especialy if you want to infiltrate a living machine, hey! this thing is better than Nanites. >"Grow Your Own Giant Bacteria" This maybe also can put with the same toy line as Jurasssic Park "Grow your very own dinosaur". :-) From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:49:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: which character that you choose? >"Pin the Tail on the Turner" Okay. I'll add that too. When or if I get it done, I'll try to U-load it to rat. A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:40:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Last part of the Animato! article - Season Two ep guide Actually, The PastMaster wanted to bring SK into the future to destroy them again so he could go back to the present and change the future so that HE was in control, and not the Metallikats. That's probably why the Metallikats didn't let him go back. A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:16 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 03:31:25 +0700 Subject: Re: Steel(e), great character? >>>On Sun, 24 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: >>> >>>Steel got fired after the 1st season. Felina took his place. I don't >>>blame Feral for firing him. >> >>When? is it after "Enter the MadKat"? how is Feral word when he fired Steel? > >Steele never got fired, A.J. is just yanking our tails. Thanks chance, now I can put him back again in my story, thought that I have to change the story line. >Actually, even if a real-life officer was as mouthy and back-stabbing as >Steele, there'd >be very little you could do to remove him aside from fragging his furry >behind. Sadly, >incompetence and arrogance get promoted, True, a kat like Steel always get promoted. >and Steele is *definitely* in line for Feral's >throne once the "Top Kat" steps down, or is stepped on, or whatever. What ever that come first. BTW, can Felina replaced Feral? From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:42:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Steel(e), great character? >Steele never got fired, A.J. is just yanking our tails. Sorry. I thought only 1 Lt. was allowed in a force, so I thought Felina took his place or something. A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 06:12:32 +0700 Subject: Re: Steel(e), great character? >Heh heh. Sorry. It never showed Feral firing Steele, and there can only >be one Lt. in one force, correct? Well, I don't know about Enforcer ranking (Or maybe everyone else), but I presumed that there can be more than one Lieutenant in the force, hey! one of my fanfic character is a Lieutenant, so I stick with my opinion. BTW, Steel and Felina have to work together in my story, so I say that Steel is still on the forces. >Well, if Felina, became Lt. in the 2nd >season, Feral would have had to fire Steele to make room for Felina. Nah, I don't think that Feral is firing him, after all he can send Steel to do all the dangerous stuff, while Felina doing all the desk job, she may not like it, but it is for her own good (Well, at least that is what her uncle want her to do). From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 07:01:53 +0700 Subject: Re: Steel(e), great character? >>Steele never got fired, A.J. is just yanking our tails. > >Sorry. I thought only 1 Lt. was allowed in a force, Well, I'm sure that there is more than one lieutenant, Felina probaly was there from the very beginning, just wasn't seen in the first season. >so I thought Felina took his place or something. Anybody got the idea of Felina replacing Feral? I think that she could beat Steel in a office politics, hey! she is a Feral, a Feral always be in the Enforcer. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 07:01:49 +0700 Subject: Re: Last part of the Animato! article - Season Two ep guide >Actually, The PastMaster wanted to bring SK into the future to destroy >them again so he could go back to the present and change the future so >that HE was in control, I was under the impression that he just want to show off, after all, if he want them destroyed, why don't just bring them to NeoKat city (Sorry! just promoting my story), I presumed that the TurboKat will surely be destroyed (They have a bad day there). BTW, if the SwatKats is destroyed at the future by the Metallikats, why he help the Metallikats back in their feet, he just could take any other villain to help him, like Dark Kat, or someone else, oh boy! this thing is getting complicated. >and not the Metallikats. That's probably why the >Metallikats didn't let him go back. I thought that the Metallikats want him to work as slaves, because he is non-metalic (Hmmm, I wonder if the original Mange was send to the future), am I right? comments please? From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 19:29:10 -0800 Subject: Re: Ted's Christmas Bonus >When will they learn that you can't copy an original, much less try to >improve on it. It's already been tried with that poorly done 2nd run of JQ. > >*sigh* Sorry.. I'm just totally disgusted right now! You and me both - not to mention some of the Animation Illuminati who sent me e-mail in regards to their friends getting fired due to no fault of their own. One of those concerned told me that he "thinks we're seeing the end of Hanna-Barbera as it gets absorbed by Time-Warner". I believe him. Still, this isn't necessarily bad for the Kats, as Warners will inherit the back catalogue and TCN, and will undoubtedly start looking for performers. Turnercom has always been about scapegoats, and Takashi, the Tremblays, and the fired Kats crews are living evidence. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From XXRJ13C@Prodigy.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: XXRJ13C@Prodigy.com (MISS DJ S CLAWSON) (by way of chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance)) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 19:36:30 -0800 Subject: Help! SK questions for fanfic! Hi! Bare with me, I'm rather new to this. Just for some very quick background info, I'm the Prez. of the SK Club on the BBs of Prodigy. We don't really do anything, aside from having the guy playing the Pastmaster and the girl playing Cally fight a lot. We had a NL a while back, but it was run jointly by the Prez. of the BB Gargoyles Club, Kyle Cummings. He eventually switched it to an entire Gargoyles NL, and now he does WINGS articles (yes the sitcom). My only claim to fame is I have Davis Doi's phone #. He sent me it. And I have all the toys (THEY SUCK!). And a Turbokat kyechain. Getting to the point, I write A LOT. Most of my stuff is seaQuest stories, but I've taken a break from my main one while I'm trying to get it published to write a SWAT Kats/ Gargoyles story. For those of you who haven't seen the show, I suggest you check it out. No, the story isn't a crossover. It involves a pack of gargoyles from Megallith City. Anyway, I have a few questions. 1. What's Dr. Abi (the museum curator)'s last name? What's the spelling? 2. Can anyone think of a gargoyle version of a name for Chance? I tried Chansis for a while put it just isn't working out. Thanks! Dr. Jake From leetwail@iscs.nus.sg Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: Leet Wai Leong Simon Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:54:16 +0800 (GMT-8) Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. On Wed, 27 Dec 1995, ARTHUR JOHN FREDA wrote: > Generic Enforcer action figures, Ooooo ... and they should have the unique ability to bail out of any of the Enforcer vehicle toys in a hurry (ejector tails maybe ...?) > Callie barbie dressup doll. I'm not touching THIS one! ;) > Pastmaster's watch that tells time. ... and either a) sends you back in time, b) summons monsters from the timestream, c) fires neat bolts of energy to fry people you don't like and provide a means for putting your neo-anarchistic plans for the world into action or d) plays a neat little SWATKat ditty (sorry, I just can't get over how inane the swatch Musicall watches are ...) > A bottle of REAL Viper mutagen so you can turn your self into a mutation. > (Recommmended for childen above 3 years of age.) Just remember not to touch any animals before you use it, especially rats or turtles ... ;) > SWAT Kat Happy Meal Yeesh! Makes them sound like Alf food ... > Talking Lt. Steele that says: "Back off! This area is under Enforcer > control!" I was thinking more along the lines of a "Crash test dummy" Lt. Steele ;) >Madkat jack in a box I'd like a pack of those razor edge playing cards actually ... > Raise your own Ci-Kat-As YEAH! Sea-monkeys for the '90s! > Zed to repair broken stuff Pardon my ignorance, but is he a character from the second season? > Inflatable 30 ft. Ballon of Rex Shard in crystal I'd settle for a 6" one made of real crystal! > "Grow Your Own Giant Bacteria" Bah! Who'd pay for that?! I'm already growing my own! :) - "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a savior, which is Christ the Lord." - Luke 2:11 From GVVY03C@Prodigy.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: GVVY03C@Prodigy.com (B-KO DAITOKUJI) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 01:34:22 EST Subject: Re: which character that you choose? Edo: >If you were stuck at the MegaKat city hall roof, and have to spend the >whole night there, which character do you choose for your companion? I think I would have to go with T-Bone. I think he's the coolest! (Well, Razor's a close second) It's better than spending a night with A-ko. B-ko Daitokuji SWAT Kat fan to the extreme full time A-ko Magami and Ted Turner hater Too crazy to be true! From GVVY03C@Prodigy.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: GVVY03C@Prodigy.com (B-KO DAITOKUJI) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 02:03:41 EST Subject: Anybody here? >1. Do you think that the SwatKats need an ally? (I got a character who >supposed to be their ally) Mabye. You might add one, but I added literally thousandsof altered characters made to fit the kats universe. Mabye, a bit much :/ >2. Is it okay if I add a new regular character to my story? If I can add Naiome Furlong, I think you could add one too! >3. Is it okay if I deviated a little from the series? Hey, some of my kats ideas are so outrageous, they're redicioulous (I can't spell!)! Jake Shard SWAT Kats extremist From GVVY03C@Prodigy.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: GVVY03C@Prodigy.com (B-KO DAITOKUJI) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 02:11:01 EST Subject: All figures found! > If you have trouble finding all 4 SK figs, go to Kay-Bee and Toyz-R- Us >in North Carolina. I got them for X-mas Just watch, when I come looking, A-ko will have taken the last ones off the shelves. From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 00:19:14 -0800 Subject: Re: Steel(e), great character? >Heh heh. Sorry. It never showed Feral firing Steele, and there can only >be one Lt. in one force, correct? Well, if Felina, became Lt. in the 2nd >season, Feral would have had to fire Steele to make room for Felina. Nah redux. The only rank that there's one of is usually "Commissioner", but there's all manner of Captains, Lieutenants, Corporals and Patrolmen in the average Police Force. In Feral's case, "Commissioner" is actually "Commander", which suggests a military command structure rather than a civilian one. Kind of like a cross between all branches of the service (remember that Enforcer aircraft carrier in "The Ghost Pilot"?), the police, and the National Guard. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 15:43:31 +0700 Subject: Re: Help! SK questions for fanfic! > Hi! Bare with me, I'm rather new to this. > Just for some very quick background info, I'm the Prez. >of the SK Club on the BBs of Prodigy. We don't really do >anything, aside from having the guy playing the Pastmaster >and the girl playing Cally fight a lot. I think Miss Briggs was call Callie, but then again, anybody can use any name when they are in the net. > Getting to the point, I write A LOT. Most of my stuff is >seaQuest stories, SeaQuest! hey can I get one of SeaQuest ships schematics? like the Stingray, SeaQuest, Whiskers, etc >1. What's Dr. Abi (the museum curator)'s last name? What's >the spelling? Her last name is Sinian, although I much prefer Sinnian, I think it has a more profesional look, and we (Well, I still confuse) still hasn't agree on what to call her yet (Is either Abby/Aby/Abbey/Abigail). (Dana! where are the new FAQ?) >2. Can anyone think of a gargoyle version of a name for >Chance? I tried Chansis for a while put it just isn't working >out. How about Clasis? but then again, I don't know much about gargoyles. >Thanks! > Dr. Jake From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 15:43:33 +0700 Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. >On Wed, 27 Dec 1995, ARTHUR JOHN FREDA wrote: > >> Generic Enforcer action figures, > >Ooooo ... and they should have the unique ability to bail out of any of >the Enforcer vehicle toys in a hurry (ejector tails maybe ...?) Hmmm, some of they never make it in "Mutation City", to be as an Enforcer is not a job, is a curse! >> Callie barbie dressup doll. > >I'm not touching THIS one! ;) But I'm sure that somebody will. ;-) >> Pastmaster's watch that tells time. > >... and either a) sends you back in time, This is the one I want, a little bit primitive, but it will do, got to get out of this timezone, PRONTO! >b) summons monsters from the timestream, Hey! I want to summon evil metalic creature from the future. >c) fires neat bolts of energy to fry people you don't like >and provide a means for putting your neo-anarchistic plans for the world >into action or Hey! it sound like me. :-) >d) plays a neat little SWATKat ditty (sorry, I just can't >get over how inane the swatch Musicall watches are ...) Or played the Pastmaster voice like this "You shall be mine!". >> A bottle of REAL Viper mutagen so you can turn your self into a mutation. > >Just remember not to touch any animals before you use it, especially rats >or turtles ... ;) Especialy Razor. ;-) >> SWAT Kat Happy Meal > >Yeesh! Makes them sound like Alf food ... Heh, Gordon probaly get addicted by those. >> Talking Lt. Steele that says: "Back off! This area is under Enforcer >> control!" > >I was thinking more along the lines of a "Crash test dummy" Lt. Steele ;) I was thinking of "Target Pratice Steel". ;-) BTW, you can walk away from a crash, with the proper safety precautions of course. >> Zed to repair broken stuff > >Pardon my ignorance, but is he a character from the second season? Yes, it is a character from the second episode, the last one before SKIQ , I still hasn't watch that episode. :-( >> Inflatable 30 ft. Ballon of Rex Shard in crystal > >I'd settle for a 6" one made of real crystal! I settle with an episode that has him in it. >Seriously, the one item I'd really like is a SWATKats game (the Hudson >soft one was a huge disappointment) which has a two-player mode, either >in a Simulation form (ala the Star Wars arcade game by Sega) Like that Star Wars game, has a hard time pulling me out of that game when I was Singapore. BTW, I was once played a game that has a TurboKat like craft (It aim the jet down to gained VTOL flight), I think it was in WIWY wonderspace, the one that is near the Movie Theater, I played it while I was on Singapore, would you please check it out for Simon? since you live there. Or a real life simulation of the TurboKat, just like the one that the military has. BTW, anybody here got the idea of making a doom style game (Or Marathon style, depending on who ask)? but the plot is Kat Kommando. >Simon Leet :) BTW Simon, my story is a little bit incomplete, can I send one of it's part right now? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:01:00 +0700 Subject: Re: Steel(e), great character? >>Heh heh. Sorry. It never showed Feral firing Steele, and there can only >>be one Lt. in one force, correct? Well, if Felina, became Lt. in the 2nd >>season, Feral would have had to fire Steele to make room for Felina. > >Nah redux. In Feral's case, "Commissioner" is actually "Commander", which >suggests a >military command structure rather than a civilian one. Can I put a rank of Colonel in the Enforcer rank? I want to name my character a Colonel. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 22:57:07 +0700 Subject: SwatKats identity. Who knows the SwatKats true identity? (Haven't saw all the episode) I know that the Metallikats know their true identity, but could Hackle also know? (He told the SwatKats to meet him at the lab in "Deadly Pyramid") hey! he could look at their databank and see it. How is Jake and Chance relation to Callie? did they get along fine? or did she call they third rate mechanics just like Terra's Cassandra? How is Jake and Chance relation to Felina? did they know her from the old Enforcer days? Now is for Steel, did they know him while they is still in the Enforcer? but then again Steel only has two episode, so I don't think that these episode could explain a lot. From CNbL@aol.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: CNbL@aol.com Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:27:15 -0500 Subject: Re: 10 things that will never happen on the series. (Humor) >>>7. The Pastmaster actually doesn't show any interest on any girl that look >>>like Queen Callista. >> >>...and shows up to the annual MegaKat City Villains Ball arm-in-arm with >>Leona Helmsley... ...next to Ted and Jane. From ben@gunk.demon.co.uk Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: Ben Carter Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 21:35:21 GMT Subject: Re: Purple dino missle? In message you wrote: > >PURPLE DINOSAUR MISSLE, DEPLOYED!!! > > What did Barney ever do to deserve this? I would tell you, but we've already decided not to post large files to the list... -- Ben Carter +-------------------------------+ /---\ |Formerly c.carter@ulst.ac.uk...| ( . . )<- A Merp. Don't ask. |... now ben@gunk.demon.co.uk! | ( - ) (but buy the game anyway!) +-------------------------------+ \---/ From ben@gunk.demon.co.uk Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: Ben Carter Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 21:37:11 GMT Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. In message <199512271745.MAA16108@camus-s1.delphi.com> you wrote: > A _complete_ video collection on LD & VHS (but especially LD!) Nice, but not everyone's got a LD player... > A CD with music from the show Yes! Definately! > A glovatrix that plugs into the computer or SNES to use as a controller. Do you remember the Nintendo Power Glove? You could get one of those and re-spray it! > A Win95 theme (which is my next project) Could you post the raw images too, please, for those of us who have other systems? > A Turbokat big enough to put the action figures into (the figs. are 6" tall) Hell. Why not go the whole hog and ask for a TurboKat? Complete with the neat remote-controller... > with lights & sounds. No. With live ammo! > A life-size cut-out of TB & R (ala ST:TNG characters you've seen) Then stick them on bits of wood and parade up and down outside Ted's office! > A wallpaper mural of the inside of the hangar. As Terry Pratchett suggested, a bit of "Breaking and Decorating" could be applied here! > A *real* cyclotron (heh. I've got a motorcycle license!) Oh no! Do you _realise_ how much that would cost to insure? > A Dr. Viper chemistry set complete with mutagens & DNA from a creepling for > cloning (AJ!) Argh! (visions of my sister with that) -- Ben Carter +-------------------------------+ /---\ |Formerly c.carter@ulst.ac.uk...| ( . . )<- A Merp. Don't ask. |... now ben@gunk.demon.co.uk! | ( - ) (but buy the game anyway!) +-------------------------------+ \---/ From ben@gunk.demon.co.uk Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: Ben Carter Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 21:32:52 GMT Subject: Re: which character that you choose? In message you wrote: > On Sun, 24 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > > > Good idea, maybe we should name this "the roof party", anyone you want to > > invite? :-) > > Hehehe. Gotta draw this one. Dr. Viper, Dark Kat, Creeplings, T-Bone and > Razor, all with little party hats on eating cake..with those little > things you blow into and they go TWEEEEEEEET! Oh yeah, Metallikats too. > Maybe Zed, even. :) What a picture! Zed "assimilating" a piece of cake! -- Ben Carter +-------------------------------+ /---\ |Formerly c.carter@ulst.ac.uk...| ( . . )<- A Merp. Don't ask. |... now ben@gunk.demon.co.uk! | ( - ) (but buy the game anyway!) +-------------------------------+ \---/ From us010700@pop3.interramp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: "Matthew Milam" Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 15:18:20 +0000 Subject: I going to try something... I when i first came on the list as "Mcshade" said i have a talk with Buzz Potakmin, the exec producer of Swat Kats. I am going to try and see if i can get him on the list. This sounds crazy but i can't wait any longer. Matthew ___________________________________________________________ Attn: Swat Kats: The Radical Squardon Fans We need your support to bring this well-animated series back on the air were it belongs. For infomation on how you can save the show e-mail. Matthew Milam (us010700@interramp.com) __________________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 05:42:19 +0700 Subject: Re: Purple dino missle? >In message you wrote: > >> >PURPLE DINOSAUR MISSILE, DEPLOYED!!! >> >> What did Barney ever do to deserve this? > > I would tell you, but we've already decided not to post large files to >the list... Why not send him the list directly? BTW, since we already has a list of 10 things that will never on the series, how about making a list of 10 missile that you want to build to home in on somebody? and NO! there is no Barney missile in this list, just keep it in the SwatKats universe. >-- > Ben Carter From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 05:42:10 +0700 Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >>Does this mean that Steel(e) has a higher rank than the Kat guys? > >Oh yeah, Steele is *definitely* a higher rank than the Kats. (chance opinion about Chance is deleted for size sake) My opinion on Chance, that he is sorta pilot that can be consider an ace, a hot shot and a lunatic, but never truly back down from a friend, besides he also doesn't follow order too, so he is not really the kat that is perfect for promotion, and you right! Chance is the sorta kat that doesn't like desk job. BTW, I have a fanfic idea where the SwatKats visit an alternate world , and found that it has no SwatKats in it, the casualties is because Chance is a really a Commander type of kat, and when Feral order them to back off, he followed his order, and guess what? the Enforcer building is safe, of course there is still the destruction of the MegaKat city hall. >Razor? Dunno...he might be promotable, but I doubt >he'd Kow-Tow to Steele and his ilk either for very long. The price of >advancement is too high. Ok, so Jake is out of the picture, how about Felina? I think that she can make it, what's your opinion? (Comments about Feral is deleted to cut down size) >>BTW, let's speculated what Steel(e) doing when the Kat guys are kick out >>from the Enforcer, is he still in the academy? or already a lieutenant? or >>still a civilian? > >Nah. Steele would've been at his current grade when the Kat guys got >hoofed out, snickering >on the sidelines. Which grade? Lieutenant? >I would not at all be surprised if they'd rubbed noses with each other on >some occasion previous to the first ep of the show, as Steele would tend >to be one of those >administrative people that's always in your face just to remind you who's boss. Hmmm, the more I hear you talk about Steel(e), the more I want to use his name as handle, so don't be suprised the next time you hear from me, my name will change to Steel. From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 18:22:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: I going to try something... Just put his e-mail address, in the CC: area, but majordomo@kats.mv.net, and write a letter to him to suggest he do SUBCRIBE KATS, and the message will bounce back w/o his permission and he will be automattically subcribed. Neat, huh? A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From LtFFeral@aol.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 20:01:11 -0500 Subject: Hello, _again_! Hello to everyone on the list, again. I changed my screen name from CNbL to Lt FFeral (anyone wanna guess what it stands for?)Don't ask me why. I'm not new to the list, but my screen name is. From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:19:04 -0800 Subject: Re: I going to try something... >I when i first came on the list as "Mcshade" said i have a talk with >Buzz Potakmin, the exec producer of Swat Kats. > >I am going to try and see if i can get him on the list. > >This sounds crazy but i can't wait any longer. Sorry to spoil a worthy plan, but SwatKats Executive Producer Buzz Potamkin was fired from Turner along with the others. He's got an aol.com address now, and I've already asked for his comments. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From XXRJ13C@Prodigy.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: XXRJ13C@Prodigy.com (MISS DJ S CLAWSON) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 19:59:49 EST Subject: SwatKats identity. >I know that the Metallikats know their true identity, but could Hackle also >know? (He told the SwatKats to meet him at the lab in "Deadly Pyramid") >hey! he could look at their databank and see it. He probably doesn't know. Hackel's not that kind of guy. Besides, in my fanfic, Hackel is Jake's father (this doesn't match the show). >How is Jake and Chance relation to Callie? did they get along fine? or did >she call they third rate mechanics just like Terra's Cassandra? In the episode with the Giant Bacteria, Cally's car broke down and she went to the shop and talked with them. They're friends, but I think she's kind of stupid not to figure it out. >How is Jake and Chance relation to Felina? did they know her from the old >Enforcer days? It was never mentioned on the show. She was a new addition in the second season, so chances are (not pun intended) they never knew her. >Now is for Steel, did they know him while they is still in the Enforcer? >but then again Steel only has two episode, so I don't think that these >episode could explain a lot. There's no way to know. Make it up if you're writing a fanfic. It was also never mentioned in the show. Hope I could help! Dr. Jake From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 08:24:51 +0700 Subject: Re: I going to try something... >Just put his e-mail address, in the CC: area, but majordomo@kats.mv.net, >and write a letter to him to suggest he do SUBCRIBE KATS, and the message >will bounce back w/o his permission and he will be automattically >subcribed. Neat, huh? That's forceful! but might work, do it Matthew! Of course you have to write "subscribe kats" instead of "subcribe kats", or else it won't work. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 08:24:40 +0700 Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. >In message <199512271745.MAA16108@camus-s1.delphi.com> you wrote: > >> A _complete_ video collection on LD & VHS (but especially LD!) > > Nice, but not everyone's got a LD player... But it will look much better. >> A Win95 theme (which is my next project) > > Could you post the raw images too, please, for those of us who have other >systems? Yes, so that I can also use it as a pict resource for my startup screen, hey! I use Sonic and Tails picture as my startup screen, I presumed that 640*480 is enough for me. >> A Turbokat big enough to put the action figures into (the figs. are 6" tall) > > Hell. Why not go the whole hog and ask for a TurboKat? Complete with the >neat remote-controller... Too big, but a miniaturized version of the TurboKat is always welcome by me, just as long it can do all the neat stuff that the real thing do (Presuming that there is a _real_ TurboKat). >> with lights & sounds. > > No. With live ammo! Ahem, and I presumed that you already choosen your target. >-- > Ben Carter From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:50:43 -0800 Subject: Re: I going to try something... >Just put his e-mail address, in the CC: area, but majordomo@kats.mv.net, >and write a letter to him to suggest he do SUBCRIBE KATS, and the message >will bounce back w/o his permission and he will be automattically >subcribed. Neat, huh? Yeah...and if I catch anyone doing it, they'll have a nastygram in their mailbox that'll make their fur hurt. If someone has a problem doing the sub thing, just have'em talk to me or rat...we'll sort it out. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 21:11:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Hello, _again_! Lt. Felina Feral A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 09:40:04 +0700 Subject: Re: Hello, _again_! >Hello to everyone on the list, again. I changed my screen name from CNbL to >Lt FFeral (anyone wanna guess what it stands for?)Don't ask me why. I'm not >new to the list, but my screen name is. Hi Felina! since she already change her name, I think I changed my name too, guess who I'm going to be? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 09:51:34 +0700 Subject: Re: I going to try something... >>I when i first came on the list as "Mcshade" said i have a talk with >>Buzz Potakmin, the exec producer of Swat Kats. >> >>I am going to try and see if i can get him on the list. >> >>This sounds crazy but i can't wait any longer. > >Sorry to spoil a worthy plan, but SwatKats Executive Producer Buzz Potamkin was >fired from Turner along with the others. He's got an aol.com address now, >and I've >already asked for his comments. Let's invite him to our little list (A non forceful way of course, just ask him if he want to join our list, no CC thing), after all, it's nice to have someone that once was work on the series with us. BTW, Turner is the guy you have to talk to, he's the one who cancel the series. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 09:51:31 +0700 Subject: Re: SwatKats identity. >In the episode "the Giant Bacteria", Cally's car broke down and >she went to the shop and talked with them. They're friends, How is their friendship? does she just know them? or they are close friends? >but I think she's kind of stupid not to figure it out. Don't call her stupid! (Sorry! a little bit out of control, have to defend my boss) she just doesn't quite noticed the similarities (Feral surely isn't know their true identity), since that they meet only when her car need to be fix, I supposed to drive the car to the garage. >It was never mentioned on the show. She was a new addition in the >second season, so chances are that they never knew her. Felina was an evolution from the original SwatKats contact. >There's no way to know. Make it up if you're writing a fanfic. It was >also never mentioned in the show. Ok, thanks for all the information. > Hope I could help! Thanks! > Dr. Jake Arthur Blair, assistant to the Deputy Mayor. (Yes! that is my fanfic character) From GVVY03C@Prodigy.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: GVVY03C@Prodigy.com (B-KO DAITOKUJI) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:19:09 EST Subject: Question about SK MOV >what is the SK quicktime about? Who cares? As long as there is one, I'll be happy! (MUST HAVE IT!!) Jake Shard SWAT Kat Extremist From GVVY03C@Prodigy.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: GVVY03C@Prodigy.com (B-KO DAITOKUJI) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:21:46 EST Subject: Re: 10 things that will never happen on >>>7. The Pastmaster actualy doesn't show any interest on any girl that look >>>like Queen Callista. >> >>...and shows up to the annual MegaKat City Villains Ball arm-in-arm with >Leona Helmsley... >Good one! :-) anybody want to add to this one? Yeah! TED TURNER! TED TURNER!!! Ryan Kelley SWAT Kat Extremist From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:01:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Help! SK questions for fanfic! > My only claim to fame is I have Davis Doi's phone #. He >sent me it. And I have all the toys (THEY SUCK!). And a >Turbokat kyechain. Sorry about getting off the subject, but WHERE did you find a keychain?? ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From GVVY03C@Prodigy.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: GVVY03C@Prodigy.com (B-KO DAITOKUJI) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:39:28 EST Subject: Help! SK questions for fanfic! >1. What's Dr. Abi (the museum curator)'s last name? What's >the spelling? It's like Dr. Sinian >2. Can anyone think of a gargoyle version of a name for >Chance? I tried Chansis for a while put it just isn't working >out. Chancellor! Just kidding..... Mabye..... Uhhhh, I don't know! most of my names I use are Japanese names found in the Project A-ko 1-4 & VS Battle 1 Grey Side & Battle 2 Blue Side. Mabye Sato? From LtFFeral@aol.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:53:20 -0500 Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. If someone already said this stuff, I didn't know. (I lost all my unread mail when I changed my screen name) "Madkat & Me" book (Written by Lenny Ringtail) A "How To Relieve Stress" VHS. Hosted by Commander Feral. A _Genuine_ Piece of Volcanus. From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:00:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Last part of the Animato! article - Season Two ep guide At 03:40 PM 12/27/95 -0500, you wrote: >Actually, The PastMaster wanted to bring SK into the future to destroy >them again so he could go back to the present and change the future so >that HE was in control, and not the Metallikats. That's probably why the >Metallikats didn't let him go back. AAHHH!! Now we're gettin' into that Star Trek cosmic quantum time-space stuff! My head is startin' to hurt! ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:07:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: SwatKats identity. >>In the episode "the Giant Bacteria", Cally's car broke down and >>she went to the shop and talked with them. They're friends, > >How is their friendship? does she just know them? or they are close friends? > >>but I think she's kind of stupid not to figure it out. > >Don't call her stupid! (Sorry! a little bit out of control, have to defend >my boss) she just doesn't quite noticed the similarities (Feral surely >isn't know their true identity), since that they meet only when her car >need to be fix, I supposed to drive the car to the garage. I dunno.. T-Bone & Razor seem to drop little hints once in a while. I don't remember which ep it was but they're driving Callie's car and T-Bone says "Gee Razor, too bad you can't keep the Turbokat runnin' this good." And if you slo-mo the tape at the point it shows all 3 of them in the car, Callie & Razor look at each other as if they know. I'll send the pic to Rat for everyone to look at -- it's cute. Feral probably knows too (I think this was in an earlier thread) but doesn't let on that he does know. ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:00:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. >>Talking Feral that says "I hate vigilanties!" when you pull his string on >>his back. >Don't forget to add his Enforcer communicator, and when you pressed the >thing, it says "Bring me chooper back up!" ...and an Enforcer chopper that losses its prop and makes a crashing sound >>Callie barbie dressup doll. >Hmmm, a good idea, of course when they have solve the dress problem, I'm >sure that this will sell, the question is, who is the one who are going to >buy them? which age? umm.. the answers are "me" and "25" >>A Win95 theme (which is my next project) >A win95 theme??? oh! the startup sound, how do you that? I want to try that too. Not only just a startup sound; but icons, backgrounds, various sound effects, etc. >> Could you post the raw images too, please, for those of us who have other >>systems? Yes, but let me get at least _something_ started first! >>> A _complete_ video collection on LD & VHS (but especially LD!) >> Nice, but not everyone's got a LD player... >But it will look much better. Yes, it will look *much* better. And if there's an LD release, you can bet for sure there'd be a VHS one too! >>A *real* cyclotron (heh. I've got a motorcycle license!) >Just hope that it also come with a good luck charm, or you will be toasted. Toasted?!? I *love* performance bikes and I always wear a helmet. :) (Actually, I'm looking for a bike right now. Preferrably a Kawasaki KZ1000!) ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:00:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >here anyway, one of the prerequisites for attaining the >higher ranks was a University level education...something >I suspect T-Bone wouldn't have, despite not being a >"dummy-Kat" by any stretch of the imagination. Razor? >Dunno...he might be promotable, but I doubt he'd Kow-Tow >to Steele and his ilk either for very long. The price >of advancement is too high. Hmm.. Reminded me of your story Chance! (Swat Kats Unmasked) Although, this is a bit more background then you let on in the fanfic. To me, it seems like (as in your fanfic) T-Bone would pick Razor to go through the hands-on portion of the flight program. Likewise, Razor would help T-Bone through the classroom portion of the Enforcer program. Might make for an interesting fanfic to go all the way back to the very beginning.. >Feral is the equivalent of some of the Police Chiefs >we see slowly being rotated out as members of "The Old >School" like Darryl Gates from L.A., our own Bob Stewart >in Vancouver and so on. They're "get the job done" >kinda guys, but don't have the "Politically Correct" >office-skills required to avoid stubbing toes in the >process. Heh. I can imagine Feral standing up in front of the Enforcer classroom! Chance is sitting back in his chair with his feet up on the desk and that confident look on his face. Jake is sitting right next to him with all his books out, papers & pencils ready and looking at Chance with that "wha'd ya think you're doin'?" expression. Feral's got the usual scowl on his face starring right at Chance and about to spout off some "young hot-shot" comment. ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From buster@fdt.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: Buster Bunny Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 01:16:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: SwatKats identity. On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > >In the episode "the Giant Bacteria", Cally's car broke down and > >she went to the shop and talked with them. They're friends, > How is their friendship? does she just know them? or they are close friends? > >but I think she's kind of stupid not to figure it out. > Don't call her stupid! (Sorry! a little bit out of control, have to defend > my boss) she just doesn't quite noticed the similarities (Feral surely > isn't know their true identity), since that they meet only when her car > need to be fix, I supposed to drive the car to the garage. [...] The reason Callie (or anyone for that matter) haven't even suspected Jake and Chance of being the SWAT Kats probably has something to do with their generally preceived reputation... What with having been kicked out of the Enforcers and all. If we didn't know any better, (like Callie and Feral) they just wouldn't seem like the type... -Buster Bunny ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit Buster Bunny's FTP site! ftp://ftp.fdt.net/pub/users/b/buster Home of the official Chris Brown distirbution site! From GVVY03C@Prodigy.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: GVVY03C@Prodigy.com (B-KO DAITOKUJI) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 01:21:31 EST Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. >> A CD with music from the show > Yes! Definately! what do you mean definatly? I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT IT!! >> A glovatrix that plugs into the computer or SNES to use as a controller. > Do you remember the Nintendo Power Glove? You could get one of those and re-spray it! Too bad my dad threw away my nintendo. >> A Win95 theme (which is my next project) > Could you post the raw images too, please, for those of us who have other systems? would Win 3x work just as fine? I've been trying to get about six of mine in .wav format to Rat, no such luck! >> A Turbokat big enough to put the action figures into (the figs. are 6" tall) > Hell. Why not go the whole hog and ask for a TurboKat? Complete with the neat remote-controller... >> with lights & sounds. > No. With live ammo! and built in Ted Turner and A-ko death ray machine!!! >> A life-size cut-out of TB & R (ala ST:TNG characters you've seen) > Then stick them on bits of wood and parade up and down outside Ted's office! Good, but why not get Dr. Viper to clone the SWAT Kats and have THEM tell Ted what they think of them!! Hmmmm..... Another idea for the tribute to Ted Turner I'm working on! >> A wallpaper mural of the inside of the hangar. > As Terry Pratchett suggested, a bit of "Breaking and Decorating" could be applied here! Why not just have the hangar in your own backyard? saves time & trouble! >> A *real* cyclotron (heh. I've got a motorcycle license!) > Oh no! Do you _realise_ how much that would cost to insure? Worse, what about the multiple repair costs you'll have to make on it when you mysteriously seem to crash it almost every time you ride it? >> A Dr. Viper chemistry set complete with mutagens & DNA from a creepling for >> cloning (AJ!) > Argh! (visions of my sister with that) Then, why not a device to clone the SWAT Kats with. Build up an anti- A-ko\Ted army! YES!! B-ko Daitokuji SWAT Kat Extremist A-ko hater (I'm cuter than she is!) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:26:09 +0700 Subject: Re: Last part of the Animato! article - Season Two ep guide >AAHHH!! Now we're gettin' into that Star Trek cosmic quantum time-space >stuff! My head is startin' to hurt! Yes we are, aren't we mister Data? OK! head for Earth at warp 5 (Got to obey the speed limit thing), and avoid any strange space anomalies, I want to make it home for dinner. BTW, what happen if the SwatKats meet their double when they are time traveling? could they face their double calmly? or do they scream and hide behind a background object? any comments? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:26:03 +0700 Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. >>Don't forget to add his Enforcer communicator, and when you pressed the >>thing, it says "Bring me chooper back up!" > >...and an Enforcer chopper that losses its prop and makes a crashing sound BOOM! there's goes another chopper. >>>who is the one who are going to buy them? which age? > >umm.. the answers are "me" and "25" Don't forget to add me, Tim, and Ed. >>>A Win95 theme (which is my next project) > >Not only just a startup sound; but icons, backgrounds, various sound >effects, etc. And don't forget to send the original art to rat.org, I want to make one on my system too. (Already have Sonic and George Jetson) >>> Could you post the raw images too, please, for those of us who have other >>>systems? > >Yes, but let me get at least _something_ started first! Ok, you have 23 minutes, now move!!! :-) >>>> A _complete_ video collection on LD & VHS (but especially LD!) >>> Nice, but not everyone's got a LD player... >>But it will look much better. > >Yes, it will look *much* better. And if there's an LD release, you can bet >for sure there'd be a VHS one too! Sure, for every LD release there's always a VHS release (And vice versa), just as long Turner get the idea. >>>A *real* cyclotron (heh. I've got a motorcycle license!) >>Just hope that it also come with a good luck charm, or you will be toasted. > >Toasted?!? I *love* performance bikes and I always wear a helmet. :) I just hope that you aren't having a bad vehicle day with this one, I know that the SwatKats does, it even get destroyed at my story. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:51:47 +0700 Subject: Re: SwatKats identity. >On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > >[...] > >The reason Callie (or anyone for that matter) haven't even suspected Jake >and Chance of being the SWAT Kats probably has something to do with their >generally preceived reputation... Reputation??? oh! like destroying an Enforcer building, is this the reputation that you mention? >What with having been kicked out of the Enforcers and all. >If we didn't know any better, (like Callie and Feral) >they just wouldn't seem like the type... Yes, that maybe it, they seem just ain't that type of kat. > -Buster Bunny BTW, aren't you the same Buster that answer my question on fandom? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:51:50 +0700 Subject: Re: SwatKats identity. >I dunno.. T-Bone & Razor seem to drop little hints once in a while. I don't >remember which ep it was but they're driving Callie's car and T-Bone says >"Gee Razor, too bad you can't keep the Turbokat runnin' this good." And if >you slo-mo the tape at the point it shows all 3 of them in the car, Just like chance said, she has too many hairs on her ears. >Callie & Razor look at each other as if they know. Ahem, we talking about Jake and Chance here, she probaly just see some similarities on them and the SwatKats, but don't think that this are the sorta people that can be consider as vigilantes. >I'll send the pic to Rat for everyone to look at -- it's cute. Ok, in what name? >Feral probably knows too (I think this was in an earlier thread) but doesn't >let on that he does know. I don't know about this, but if he found out about them, he will react for sure. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:51:56 +0700 Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. >> Then stick them on bits of wood and parade up and down outside >Ted's office! > >Good, but why not get Dr. Viper to clone the SWAT Kats and have THEM >tell Ted what they think of them!! Them??? does this mean that Ted is part of a collective? >Hmmmm..... Another idea for the tribute to Ted Turner I'm working >on! Good! do it! >Why not just have the hangar in your own backyard? saves time & >trouble! But certainly not space. ;-) >> Oh no! Do you _realise_ how much that would cost to insure? > >Worse, what about the multiple repair costs you'll have to make on it >when you mysteriously seem to crash it almost every time you ride it? Certainly not the thing that you want if you on a budget. >Then, why not a device to clone the SWAT Kats with. Build up an anti- >A-ko\Ted army! YES!! Sound like the cloning device that Dark Kat use on my story, fortunately he has choosen the wrong people to built the thing. >B-ko Daitokuji >SWAT Kat Extremist From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:51:52 +0700 Subject: Re: SwatKats identity. >>Who knows the SwatKats true identity? (Haven't saw all the episode) > >My interpretations is that only the Metallikats (yes! let's screw up >even more here!) know the SWAT Kats' Identities. I think that in your story, all MegaKat know their true identity. >>hey! he could look at their databank and see it. > >Could be. Could be quite interesting to find out....... One of my character could find out and suprised that it was his friends and then quickly erase any memory of it. -"Sorry Metallikats, but this is for your own good and their's" >>How is Jake and Chance relation to Callie? > >I think she likes both of them a lot, and the SWAT Kats want to be >with her eternally (But what guy dosn't!) Ahem, I know one that doesn't want to be near her eternally (But he just faking it!). >>I don't think that these episode could explain a lot. > >Do tell! So fat, I have gotten no clues whatsoever. Maybe they do know from the academy, but then again, I haven't watched "Enter the MadKat". From tazman@primenet.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: Tazman Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 04:41:04 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Question about SK MOV Where can I get the SK MOV? Also, does anyone have the Swat Kats SNES game for sale? Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- tazman __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ tazman@primenet.com /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ / ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From leetwail@iscs.nus.sg Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: Leet Wai Leong Simon Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 19:52:28 +0800 (GMT-8) Subject: Re: SwatKats identity. On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, MATT WEBER wrote: > I dunno.. T-Bone & Razor seem to drop little hints once in a while. I don't > remember which ep it was but they're driving Callie's car and T-Bone says > "Gee Razor, too bad you can't keep the Turbokat runnin' this good." And if > you slo-mo the tape at the point it shows all 3 of them in the car, Callie & > Razor look at each other as if they know. I'll send the pic to Rat for > everyone to look at -- it's cute. Hmmm ... I saw it more as a private joke than a hint, Razor wasn't really looking at Callie, he was looking past her at T-Bone with that "Hey! Waitaminute ..." look on his face. Callie's just looking for a response from Razor. Simon Leet :) - "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a savior, which is Christ the Lord." - Luke 2:11 From XXRJ13C@Prodigy.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: XXRJ13C@Prodigy.com (MISS DJ S CLAWSON) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 09:51:36 EST Subject: Re:Re: Help! SK questions for fanfic! >Sorry about getting off the subject, but WHERE did you find a keychain?? I thought someone would ask that. Back in the first season, I mailed SWAT Kats at their address with a nice long letter. I got a super-ultra-cheezy form letter back, (and a few decales) so I wrote a pissed-off letter. They felt bad and sent me the keychain. There's no colors, but if you push a button it makes sounds like an engine and if you do it again it makes gun noises. Dr. Jake From rat@granite.mv.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: Ratman Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:10:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Question about SK MOV On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Tazman wrote: > Where can I get the SK MOV? Also, does anyone have the Swat Kats SNES > game for sale? Thanks. Ok, i've been gone awhile. What MOV? If there is one, please send it to rat.org so I can put it there for people to download. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- email: rat@rat.org WWW : http://rat.org FTP : ftp://rat.org/pub ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 22:25:02 +0700 Subject: Re: Question about SK MOV >Where can I get the SK MOV? chance is working on bringing SK MOV to rat.org, hope the AOL problem will be solve soon. >tazman From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 08:14:17 -0800 Subject: Wow...just when you thought it was safe... Heh. Um, my...we've been busy, huh? I just got something off the grapevine that I find somewhat intersting, from a source that's usually about 60 percent. It seems that Turner Corporate has scheduled a series of meetings (the first of which evidently resulted in the firing of the "Jonny" crew and Potamkin) to determine what's to become of Hanna-Barbera. The direct quote is "Time-Warner considers H-B to be a liability in its current form, and...(some changes need to be made)". Turns out that in the last four years of H-B's existence, their most popular programs (regardless of how 'profitable' the accountants showed them to be) were the ones they cancelled in favour of 9 million bucks spent on "Jonny" party favours. It gets better, as I'm told "recent decisions are currently being re-evaluated...", which sounds promising on the surface, but really likely applies to the "Jonny" thing and plans to turn the extant WPT's into series rather than anything Kats related. Still, you never know. One other thing that's related before I try catch up on the 36 messages. People who deal with fan-mail in an official capacity to determine trends, demographic information and so forth have this little rule-of-thumb concerning letters about a show. I forget the exact figure, but for every letter they receive, it can be counted on to represent the views of great many more. Some folks are beginning to realize this, and Internet is becoming a major part of the feedback process. Warner Bros. regularly monitors the newsgroups dedicated to "Animaniacs", and has, for a FACT, made decisions based on commentary found within that group. There are a couple of "trends" emerging from newsgroups/Internet regarding the fandom of various shows, mainly the volume of posts, and whether or not the group continues to flourish in the absence of external stimulus. Well, while their were no new episodes for "Animaniacs" while Warners caught up, the volume in that group remained constant in anticipation of the new season. "SwatKats" *continues* to grow without even the vague *hope* of a new season - doubling in membership within a period of six months as overseas markets gain access to "The Cartoon Network" and the program. What's even more amazing is that (as many of you have also said) so many people have never even *heard* of the program, yet begin the hunt for the Home Videos the minute any of us pop in a cassette and show them what it's all about. Pat yourselves on the back, gang...you aren't going to find this for the "World Premiere Toons" or "Jonny Quest"...or even Exosquad. And Universal is re-thinking the cancellation of Exosquad. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 01:02:52 +0700 Subject: Re: SwatKats identity. >>How is their friendship? does she just know them? or they are close >friends? > >They know each other pretty well, maybe a little too far for close >friends. A little too far for close friend??? Nooooooo! >When Cally entered she said, "Hi, guys!" And Chance spend the whole >time flirting with her. The irony is in the end, she said, "Goodbye, Jake, >" in a real sweet voice and it made Chance seem left out. This is my >favorite scene for just about the entire series. I got to watch these scene, I got to watch this episode, I got to know what's happening! > Dr. Jake BTW, did they ever meet outside the garage? From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 11:01:58 -0800 Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >>Nah. Steele would've been at his current grade when the Kat guys got >>hoofed out, snickering >>on the sidelines. > >Which grade? Lieutenant? Yup. Steele would've bought his way through MegaKat OCS (Officer Candidate School) or maybe was even a loathsome ROTC Kat...either way, you leave the establishment as a Lieutenant despite the fact your leadership skills are worse than any Sergeant. >Hmmm, the more I hear you talk about Steel(e), the more I want to use his >name as handle, so don't be suprised the next time you hear from me, my >name will change to Steel. I always liked Steele (though I still think he more resembles a Fox than any Kat I've ever seen...not that it's a problem or anything...) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 11:02:22 -0800 Subject: Re: SwatKats identity. Simon wrote (why the Hell doesn't my quoter do this automatically?) >Hmmm ... I saw it more as a private joke than a hint, Razor wasn't really >looking at Callie, he was looking past her at T-Bone with that "Hey! >Waitaminute ..." look on his face. Callie's just looking for a response >from Razor. That whole scene and things like "Feral's after your head!" .."so's Razor..." are what sets this show apart from all the other cardboard cut-out characters populating most of the other ac/adv stuff throughout history. Characters that actually play off of each other rather than simply co-exist are really rare - and there's all kind of chemistry between the Kat guys, their allies, and even their enemies. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 11:02:19 -0800 Subject: Re: Question about SK MOV >Where can I get the SK MOV? Also, does anyone have the Swat Kats SNES >game for sale? Thanks. We're still working on the sk.mov, but when (and if) we get it up to the rat.org site, it'll be announced here. The SNES game is currently in "Toys R Us" in Canada, and I've heard you can find it in some of the specialty shops as well. If you want to rent it, try Blockbuster and the like, and maybe K-Mart/Wal-Mart/Target for purchase if TRU doesn't have it. If worst comes to worst, I can pick them up here for 74.99 Canadian and send them stateside if there's any takers....works out to be about 60-65.00 American including shipping to your door. (I'm still shy all the action figures and one of the vids myself...) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 11:02:10 -0800 Subject: Re: Question about SK MOV >>what is the SK quicktime about? > >Who cares? As long as there is one, I'll be happy! (MUST HAVE IT!!) I'll look into it again. For the new folks on the list, there's a vast archive of pics, script premises, and whatnot on the "SwatKats" site "rat.org" in the directory /pub/kats. Admin note for lurkers: posting to the list is easy, and fun for the whole family...here's how in case you've forgotten. Beside the "To:" line, you need to write "kats@lists.mv.net". The "Subject:" and body of the message can be anything you like (on-topic, that is), though I'd ask that all fanfic be completed on paper prior to posting small segments to the list. *NO BINARIES* to the list please. Questions about listmail, the contents of "rat.org", and suggestions concerning what you'd like to see can either go to me (list administrator) or rat@rat.org (list server owner), or up to the list if group discussion is warranted. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 11:02:07 -0800 Subject: Re: I going to try something... >Let's invite him to our little list (A non forceful way of course, just ask >him if he want to join our list, no CC thing), after all, it's nice to have >someone that once was work on the series with us. There's a standing invitation to the Tremblays, Kats crews, and ex-Kats crews, but many of 'em work at other shops now, and don't have time to keep up. *Some* Turner folks were apparently warned earlier that talking to us (well, er..._some_ of us at any rate) was a "conflict of interest". Ever wonder why Mark Hughes never returned any of our phone calls? 'Nuff said. >BTW, Turner is the guy you have to talk to, he's the one who cancel the series. Yes and no depending on who you talk to. TPS has layer upon layer of middle management, and after almost a year of asking, nobody will own up to the deed. Christian Tremblay gave me a brief glimpse into how many hoops had to be gone through just to get an answer on some relatively trivial marketing issue. It's amazing that Kats ever got made. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 11:02:25 -0800 Subject: Re:Re: Help! SK questions for fanfic! >I thought someone would ask that. >Back in the first season, I mailed SWAT Kats at their address with >a nice long letter. I got a super-ultra-cheezy form letter back, >(and >a few decales) so I wrote a pissed-off letter. They felt bad and >sent >me the keychain. There's no colors, but if you push a button it >makes sounds like an engine and if you do it again it makes gun >noises. Yeah..I've got colour concept-pix of these things in the H-B "Style Guide" binder I have. They had a number of Kat-related things in the H-B "Employee Store" that were really cool, one of which apparently was this keychain thing. Many of us got those form letters back from H-B, but some of them had an extra paragraph added in answer to any specific questions you may have posed. So far, aside from Miss Claws, I haven't heard of *anyone* who's received anything other than the sticker. All the fan-mail ops have been handed over to "Classic" cartoon div under Mark Hughes, but I don't believe anything is being done with Katmail aside from piling it somewhere (despite assurances to the contrary earlier). Most outfits wouldn't even have sent so much as a letter. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 11:02:12 -0800 Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. >>>Talking Feral that says "I hate vigilanties!" when you pull his string on >>>his back. >>Don't forget to add his Enforcer communicator, and when you pressed the >>thing, it says "Bring me chooper back up!" > >...and an Enforcer chopper that losses its prop and makes a crashing sound Yeah, "how do you tell MegaKat City just spent another million bucks?" Heh. Feral says "Bring me Chopper Backup!!!". >>>> A _complete_ video collection on LD & VHS (but especially LD!) >>> Nice, but not everyone's got a LD player... >>But it will look much better. > >Yes, it will look *much* better. And if there's an LD release, you can bet >for sure there'd be a VHS one too! Turner marketing really screwed up the video releases too. Turner Home Video complained that they "didn't sell as well as hoped", yet no promotion stuff was done outside of a couple of TCN spots that I know of, and no promotional posters and stuff were offered to video retailers/renters. Can't buy what you can't find. A Laser Disc release of that second-season art would be absolutely beautiful, as even with the Turner release of the first season eps on VHS you can notice how much better the eps look as opposed to the tube. >>>A *real* cyclotron (heh. I've got a motorcycle license!) >>Just hope that it also come with a good luck charm, or you will be toasted. > >Toasted?!? I *love* performance bikes and I always wear a helmet. :) >(Actually, I'm looking for a bike right now. Preferrably a Kawasaki KZ1000!) How about a compromise? A Kawa with the Cyclotron's missiles and speed...perfect for Vancouver's traffic problems! _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 11:02:00 -0800 Subject: Re: SwatKats identity. >>I know that the Metallikats know their true identity, but could >Hackle also >>know? (He told the SwatKats to meet him at the lab in "Deadly >Pyramid") >>hey! he could look at their databank and see it. > >He probably doesn't know. Hackel's not that kind of guy. Besides, in >my >fanfic, Hackel is Jake's father (this doesn't match the show). Hey, I really like this idea...never thought of it before, but it kinda makes sense. If you think about it, Hackle spent his younger days designing weaponry ("The Metallikats") just like Razor, and renounced that way of life when he got older and more clueless (I mean, resurrecting Mac and Molly Mange as a virtually indestructible robotic "Bonnie and Clyde" was a *real* no-brainer). I hope if Razor makes it to old-age (in other words, the heart lasts beyond the next instance of "Plan Z"), that they'll have a cure for senility. We could sell it to Ted. >In the episode with the Giant Bacteria, Cally's car broke down and >she >went to the shop and talked with them. They're friends, but I think >she's >kind of stupid not to figure it out. It's the City garage, so they work on all the City cars - Deputy Mayor's included. She might be a bit stupid for not figuring it out, but you'd be surprised how many people wrapped up in their careers fail to notice stuff that's blatantly obvious to the rest of us. >>How is Jake and Chance relation to Felina? did they know her from >the old >>Enforcer days? > >It was never mentioned on the show. She was a new addition in the >second >season, so chances are (not pun intended) they never knew her. Kinda doubt they knew her, as I think she would've "graduated" just in time for the second season...likely also from the same OCS school that Steele graduated from. I think I know who I'd pick to back me up. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 11:02:16 -0800 Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >Hmm.. Reminded me of your story Chance! (Swat Kats Unmasked) Although, this >is a bit more background then you let on in the fanfic. To me, it seems >like (as in your fanfic) T-Bone would pick Razor to go through the hands-on >portion of the flight program. Likewise, Razor would help T-Bone through >the classroom portion of the Enforcer program. Might make for an >interesting fanfic to go all the way back to the very beginning.. >Heh. I can imagine Feral standing up in front of the Enforcer classroom! >Chance is sitting back in his chair with his feet up on the desk and that >confident look on his face. Jake is sitting right next to him with all his >books out, papers & pencils ready and looking at Chance with that "wha'd ya >think you're doin'?" expression. Feral's got the usual scowl on his face >starring right at Chance and about to spout off some "young hot-shot" comment. EXACTLY what I had in mind! If you got that out of my story, you didn't miss a beat. Chance would've helped Jake overcome what I kind of picture as a sort of "insecurity" when it came to hands on stuff. I think Jake would've been picked on to some degree by the others in the Enforcer Academy because he was physically smaller than most of them, and a good deal brighter - both of which are the equivalent of a "kick me!" sign in any school environment. Chance, on the other hand, would've fit right in with the others as a fairly ruff'n'tumble kinda kat, but might've suffered a bit in purely academic subjects like "theory of flight" and the finer points of thrust mechanics and physics and such. Razor would undoubtedly help him out cramming for the scarier exams, just as T-Bone undoubtedly put some extra-curricular effort into helping Razor with self-defense and assertiveness training. Like any team that works, the one complements the other, and the whole becomes stronger than the sum of its parts. Kind of like the program itself. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 04:03:07 +0700 Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >>Hmmm, the more I hear you talk about Steel(e), the more I want to use his >>name as handle, so don't be suprised the next time you hear from me, my >>name will change to Steel. > >I always liked Steele (though I still think he more resembles a Fox than >any Kat I've >ever seen...not that it's a problem or anything...) Hey! I love Fox, especialy the one that has two tails on it. :-) BTW chance, are the are anymore Steel story that you have been writing? Steel are going to be in my story too. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 04:52:46 +0700 Subject: How is MegaKat city hall organization structure? How is the organization on city hall? I'm going to need this information for my story. From ben@gunk.demon.co.uk Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: Ben Carter Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 19:43:19 GMT Subject: Re: 10 things that will never happen on In message <091.07540844.GVVY03C@prodigy.com> you wrote: > >>>7. The Pastmaster actualy doesn't show any interest on any girl > that look > >>>like Queen Callista. > >> > >>...and shows up to the annual MegaKat City Villains Ball arm-in-arm > with > >Leona Helmsley... > > >Good one! :-) anybody want to add to this one? > > Yeah! TED TURNER! TED TURNER!!! Uh oh! It would appear that we are gaining a paramilitary wing... (is this a Good Idea, or a Bad Idea? ) ..... (thinks) .................................................. ................................................................. (visions of future life walking up and down outside parliment with "equal rights for toons!" signs)................................ ................................................................. ................................................................. - Too much thinking for one day, I thi. -- Ben Carter +-------------------------------+ A!JW21 WAR+++ R&R+++++ SL- PP! Df $+ |Formerly c.carter@ulst.ac.uk...| TRita E10 PonSadMeal XTakeYou A16 GM |... now ben@gunk.demon.co.uk! | +-------------------------------+ "Quick! Extra boiling oil!" From ben@gunk.demon.co.uk Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: Ben Carter Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 19:48:03 GMT Subject: Re: Wow...just when you thought it was safe... In message <199512291614.IAA03949@unix.infoserve.net> you wrote: [snip] > One other thing that's related before I try catch up on the 36 messages. People who deal with > fan-mail in an official capacity to determine trends, demographic information and so forth have > this little rule-of-thumb concerning letters about a show. I forget the exact figure, but for every > letter they receive, it can be counted on to represent the views of great many more. Some folks > are beginning to realize this, and Internet is becoming a major part of the feedback process. > Warner Bros. regularly monitors the newsgroups dedicated to "Animaniacs", and has, for a FACT, > made decisions based on commentary found within that group. There are a couple of "trends" > emerging from newsgroups/Internet regarding the fandom of various shows, mainly the volume > of posts, and whether or not the group continues to flourish in the absence of external stimulus. Yes - But surely there could be a problem here, as the SK *newsgroup* is very much DOA! Prehaps we should start crossposting stuff? (is this technically possible?) -- Ben Carter +-------------------------------+ A!JW21 WAR+++ R&R+++++ SL- PP! Df $+ |Formerly c.carter@ulst.ac.uk...| TRita E10 PonSadMeal XTakeYou A16 GM |... now ben@gunk.demon.co.uk! | +-------------------------------+ "Quick! Extra boiling oil!" From GVVY03C@Prodigy.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: GVVY03C@Prodigy.com (B-KO DAITOKUJI) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 20:21:43 EST Subject: Re: Help! SK questions for fanfic! >> My only claim to fame is I have Davis Doi's phone #. He >>sent me it. And I have all the toys (THEY SUCK!). And a >>Turbokat kyechain. > >Sorry about getting off the subject, but WHERE did you find a keychain?? Yes, WHERE? (I must have it!!!) Do you know Davis Doi's E-mail address?? Now TAHT has possabilities!! From GVVY03C@Prodigy.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: GVVY03C@Prodigy.com (B-KO DAITOKUJI) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 20:29:41 EST Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. >"Madkat & Me" book (Written by Lenny Ringtail) Written by me! I'm madder than Madkat could ever dream of! >A "How To Relieve Stress" VHS. Hosted by Commander Feral. send me a copy. I need it!! >A _Genuine_ Piece of Volcanus. How about a Ted Turner Dart board? a nine story tall robo T-Bone? lifesize posters of the SWAT Kat characters? Ryan Kelley SWAT Kats extremist From GVVY03C@Prodigy.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: GVVY03C@Prodigy.com (B-KO DAITOKUJI) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 20:24:48 EST Subject: Re: Last part of the Animato! article - >>Actually, The PastMaster wanted to bring SK into the future to destroy >>them again so he could go back to the present and change the future so >>that HE was in control, and not the Metallikats. That's probably why the >>Metallikats didn't let him go back. > >AAHHH!! Now we're gettin' into that Star Trek cosmic quantum time- space >stuff! My head is startin' to hurt! Now you see things my way! Take lots of asprin. It helps the pain go away. Can you get an asprin overdose? B-ko Daitokuji SWAT Kat extremist (MY HEAD STILL HURTS!!!! I HATE TED!!!!!!) From kaychang@eden.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 19:53:24 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. >>"Madkat & Me" book (Written by Lenny Ringtail) > >Written by me! I'm madder than Madkat could ever dream of! Aren't we all? :) 'Course, everyone I know (even my parents) seriously think *I've* gone over the hill. (not 'cause I'm old, 'cause I'm uh, lets just say "*extremely* strange".) Terra Chang Swat Kats fan, writer, nice person, totally crazy. From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:37:57 -0800 Subject: Re: Wow...just when you thought it was safe... >In message <199512291614.IAA03949@unix.infoserve.net> you wrote: > Yes - But surely there could be a problem here, as the SK *newsgroup* is very much DOA! Prehaps we should start crossposting stuff? (is this technically possible?) Good point. I was going to manually cross over some of the listmail to the a.t.s. group (no one posts to an empty group), but my server won't allow crossing stuff from SMTP to NNTP because, well...it's ancient. I was hoping to come across something that we could incorporate into the server, but nobody knows what the hell I'm talking about when I ask. I'll keep looking. (A lot of people still say the don't have access to a.t.s., so the prop can't be all that good). _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 13:04:49 +0700 Subject: Re: Wow...just when you thought it was safe... > Yes - But surely there could be a problem here, as the >SK *newsgroup* is very much DOA! Prehaps we should >start crossposting stuff? (is this technically possible?) Is technically possible, I can do that. BTW chance, should we do this crossposting thing? >-- > Ben Carter From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 13:04:52 +0700 Subject: Re: I going to try something... >>BTW, Turner is the guy you have to talk to, he's the one who cancel >the series. > >That's the problem.... I've tried to get a letter to him, but just >got something nasty back. any suggestions for my next move? Try sending a mailbomb next. :-) And if that isn't working, get a TurboKat and target him with your death ray. :-) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 13:05:01 +0700 Subject: Re: Last part of the Animato! article - >>AAHHH!! Now we're gettin' into that Star Trek cosmic quantum time- >>space stuff! My head is startin' to hurt! > >Now you see things my way! Take lots of asprin. It helps the pain go >away. But it will stick again on your head, unless you elimanted the problem. >Can you get an asprin overdose? I don't know about that, Doctor Conway! can we get an aspirin overdose? >B-ko Daitokuji >SWAT Kat extremist BTW Ryan, how are you in your story? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 13:05:04 +0700 Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. >>"Madkat & Me" book (Written by Lenny Ringtail) > >Written by me! I'm madder than Madkat could ever dream of! And we know that for sure, aren't we Ryan? >>A "How To Relieve Stress" VHS. Hosted by Commander Feral. > >send me a copy. I need it!! Hope that your stress will quickly relieve. >>A _Genuine_ Piece of Volcanus. > >How about a Ted Turner Dart board? Already have the idea, want one Ryan? >a nine story tall robo T-Bone? I actualy have an idea of a gigantic robot dinosaur on my story, the SwatKats is almost got crushed by it, even the Cyclotron is flatten now. >lifesize posters of the SWAT Kat characters? I'm sure that somebody here can print them. >Ryan Kelley >SWAT Kats extremist From leetwail@iscs.nus.sg Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: Leet Wai Leong Simon Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 20:33:35 +0800 (GMT-8) Subject: Re: SwatKats identity. On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, chance wrote: > >He probably doesn't know. Hackel's not that kind of guy. Besides, in my > >fanfic, Hackel is Jake's father (this doesn't match the show). > > Hey, I really like this idea...never thought of it before, but it kinda makes > sense. If you think about it, Hackle spent his younger days designing > weaponry ("The Metallikats") just like Razor, and renounced that way of life > when he got older and more clueless (I mean, resurrecting Mac and Molly > Mange as a virtually indestructible robotic "Bonnie and Clyde" was a *real* > no-brainer). I hope if Razor makes it to old-age (in other words, the heart > lasts beyond the next instance of "Plan Z"), that they'll have a cure for > senility. We could sell it to Ted. I think this seems highly unlikely ... I dunno, but it kinda takes something away from Hackle's character. He's essentially a lonely old man who squandered his youth making weapons for the government - as far as we know, he has absolutely no relationships with anybody. I don't think it's a no brainer for him to ressurrect Mac and Molly again and again ... it's kinda sad how he keeps trying to improve things but fails and desperately tries again. Not only that, but I think he refers to them as his "children" which kind of hints at a longing for offspring he never had and provides another reason for his continued attempts to fix the Metallikats. > She might be a bit stupid for not figuring it out, but you'd be surprised > how many people wrapped up in their careers fail to notice stuff that's > blatantly obvious to the rest of us. Oooooo ... subtle commentary on the Ted-SWATKats relationship ;) > >>How is Jake and Chance relation to Felina? did they know her from > >the old Enforcer days? Doubtful unless she knows their identity. Haven't watched the 2nd season, but from the conversations around here that doesn't seem to be the case. Simon Leet :) - "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a savior, which is Christ the Lord." - Luke 2:11 From leetwail@iscs.nus.sg Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: Leet Wai Leong Simon Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 20:38:26 +0800 (GMT-8) Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > Hey! I love Fox, especialy the one that has two tails on it. :-) > > BTW chance, are the are anymore Steel story that you have been writing? > Steel are going to be in my story too. Yup, he plays an interesting role somewhere near the end of my "projected-to-be-really-REALLY-long-piece-of-fanfic" 92K? Pah! That's nothing! ;) (Assuming I ever complete it ...) Simon Leet :) - "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a savior, which is Christ the Lord." - Luke 2:11 From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 20:16:55 +0700 Subject: Re: SwatKats identity. >On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, chance wrote: > >> I hope if Razor makes it to old-age (in other words, the heart >> lasts beyond the next instance of "Plan Z"), that they'll have a cure for >> senility. We could sell it to Ted. > >I think this seems highly unlikely ... I dunno, but it kinda takes >something away from Hackle's character. Yes, it's kinda take away something away from his character. >He's essentially a lonely old man >who squandered his youth making weapons for the government - as far as we >know, he has absolutely no relationships with anybody. He maybe has a family in the past, but they probaly die or not been heard again. >I don't think it's >a no brainer for him to ressurrect Mac and Molly again and again ... it's >kinda sad how he keeps trying to improve things but fails and desperately >tries again. A scientist always do that, no matter what their creation have done to them, they always try to improve it no matter what they have done to them, remember Lore and Data? maybe we should have an opposite robot kat that do nice things. >Not only that, but I think he refers to them as his >"children" which kind of hints at a longing for offspring he never had >and provides another reason for his continued attempts to fix the >Metallikats. Let's give him a nephew, I already have him as an uncle of my fanfic character, a step uncle of course. >Simon Leet :) From XXRJ13C@Prodigy.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: XXRJ13C@Prodigy.com (MISS DJ S CLAWSON) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:01:56 EST Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >Yup, he plays an interesting role somewhere near the end of my >"projected-to-be-really-REALLY-long-piece-of-fanfic" 92K? Pah! That's >nothing! ;) (Assuming I ever complete it ...) Cool. Yeah, my fanfic's pretty long--I'm about halfway done and I'm at 72KB! Dr. Jake From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 23:07:51 +0700 Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > >> BTW chance, are the are anymore Steel story that you have been writing? >> Steel are going to be in my story too. > >Yup, he plays an interesting role somewhere near the end of my What kind of role? >"projected-to-be-really-REALLY-long-piece-of-fanfic" 92K? Pah! That's >nothing! ;) Whoa! when you write a story, you really write _a story_. ;) >(Assuming I ever complete it ...) Especialy after new year. (Even I doubt that one of fanfic are going to be finished.) > Simon Leet :) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 00:26:32 +0700 Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: >Especialy after new year. >(Even I doubt that one of fanfic are going to be finished.) Correcrtion:(Even I doubt that one of my fanfic are going to be finished.) From leetwail@iscs.nus.sg Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: Leet Wai Leong Simon Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 01:56:22 +0800 (GMT-8) Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > >Yup, he plays an interesting role somewhere near the end of my > > What kind of role? The usual, Steele's being a pain in the tail to folks trying to save MegaKat City ;) > >"projected-to-be-really-REALLY-long-piece-of-fanfic" 92K? Pah! That's > >nothing! ;) > > Whoa! when you write a story, you really write _a story_. ;) I'm breaking it down into 13 or so chapters, the first is almost done at about 20-30K, watch for it ... > >(Assuming I ever complete it ...) > > Especialy after new year. > (Even I doubt that one of fanfic are going to be finished.) *vigorous nodding!* Simon Leet :) - "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a savior, which is Christ the Lord." - Luke 2:11 From kaychang@eden.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:20:32 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >> Especialy after new year. >> (Even I doubt that one of fanfic are going to be finished.) > >*vigorous nodding!* Well, of *course* it won't happen. We've only got two days 'till the new year. Oh well..... too bad we can't storm Turner, take over, and make 'em start producing Swat Kats again... (wishful thinking) :_-( Happy two-days-until-New-Years Day!!! Terra Chang Swat Kats fan, writer, nice person, totally crazy. From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 10:31:04 -0800 Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. >How about a Ted Turner Dart board? >a nine story tall robo T-Bone? >lifesize posters of the SWAT Kat characters? Heh. The "Ted Turner" dartboard is actually a favourite among some H-B staff too (past and present). The ultimate souvenir would have to be the huge "Razor" banner, as tall as H-B's building itself, purr-loined by a Kats fan sometime back. Quite the engineering feat actually, as the damn thing had to be about 30 feet tall, and must've weighed in at 200 lbs. TurboKat could do it nicely...hmmmm.... Reminds me of something. When some of us were calling H-B earlier, there were embryonic plans to offer a few things to Katfans through the fan-mail channels. Have any of the TCN-equipped heard anything like that mentioned during airings? I think they were talking T-Shirts 'n' stickers and other stuff at the time. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 10:24:30 -0800 Subject: Re: Help! SK questions for fanfic! >>> My only claim to fame is I have Davis Doi's phone #. He >>>sent me it. And I have all the toys (THEY SUCK!). And a >>>Turbokat kyechain. >> >>Sorry about getting off the subject, but WHERE did you find a >keychain?? > >Yes, WHERE? (I must have it!!!) Do you know Davis Doi's E-mail >address?? Now TAHT has possabilities!! Um...I wouldn't pursue that one if I were you. I don't know how much "Big Brother" watches e-mail in/out of turner.com addresses, but it has the potential of getting good people in bad trouble. It's up to the individual though - most Turner e-adds are simply the name of the individual (first and last) separated by a ".", and of course "turner.com". So in theory, you could do "jane.fonda@turner.com", but I think it's a tad naive to think that'll work. A couple of people have already been called on Atlanta's carpet for releasing information through "inappropriate" media (which I assume means that their spin-doctors hadn't had time to sugar-coat it like the Gary Owens/Space Ghost thing). Also, "Producer" is basically a crew title in Animation - as in he conducts the orchestra, but really only has authority over things directly affecting the production of whatever series. The exec powers went up the ladder from there to people like Buzz Potamkin and Fred Seibert. >From there it goes through an inscrutable maze of TPS blue-suits in New York, L.A. and Atlanta, and from there to Ted. Again, this is why it's pretty hard to put a name to the cancel order, and even folks within the organization asking similar questions can't get anywhere. Seibert also regularly dumps his mail. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 10:34:17 -0800 Subject: Re: Wow...just when you thought it was safe... >> Yes - But surely there could be a problem here, as the >>SK *newsgroup* is very much DOA! Prehaps we should >>start crossposting stuff? (is this technically possible?) > >Is technically possible, I can do that. > >BTW chance, should we do this crossposting thing? It's a good plan, because the search engines point to the "TV" group, which in turn point to the empty alt.tv.swatkats. It's kind of the "if you build it, they will come" kinda deal, so if you can cross stuff...go ahead. I'll patrol it and forward appropriate replies to the list. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:03:41 -0800 Subject: Re: SwatKats identity. >> She might be a bit stupid for not figuring it out, but you'd be surprised >> how many people wrapped up in their careers fail to notice stuff that's >> blatantly obvious to the rest of us. > >Oooooo ... subtle commentary on the Ted-SWATKats relationship ;) Heh. Evil, arent I? Yep, I think maybe that Ted has to keep track of so much stuff that he loses his perspective on individual properties like H-B. Sad really. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:03:38 -0800 Subject: Re: I going to try something... macsonic wrote, as part of a choir, >Try sending a mailbomb next. :-) Um...maybe we should try avoid comments like these ones, because not everyone will notice the smiley at the end, and men in bad suits might come to your door asking if you know what a "Unabomber" is. Mail with a fuse attached does get more attention that the rest of the mail, but it isn't the kind of attention we want. >And if that isn't working, get a TurboKat and target him with your death >ray. :-) This is a bit better, I think you'd have to be quite the wingnut to take this seriously... 'course *I'm* not on Lithium... _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 05:59:46 +0700 Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >>> Especialy after new year. >>> (Even I doubt that one of fanfic are going to be finished.) >> >>*vigorous nodding!* > >Well, of *course* it won't happen. We've only got two days 'till the new >year. Oh well..... too bad we can't storm Turner, take over, and make 'em >start producing Swat Kats again... (wishful thinking) :_-( I want to suggest you guys to build a TurboKat, but chance said that my comment could be misinterpret as the real thing and not a joke. :-) >Happy two-days-until-New-Years Day!!! Two days for you guys, but one day for me and Simon. >Terra Chang Happy new year everybody! :-) BTW anybody here got the idea of making a Kats new year story? I already have. From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 00:11:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >>>Nah. Steele would've been at his current grade >>>when the Kat guys got hoofed out, snickering >>>on the sidelines. >> >>Which grade? Lieutenant? > >Yup. Steele would've bought his way through MegaKat OCS [snip] >leave the establishment as a Lieutenant despite the fact I just noticed this today, but Feral referred to Steele as "Lieutenant Commander Steele" in "Enter the MadKat". So now Steele is a step above a Lt.? ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 00:11:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Question about SK MOV >>Where can I get the SK MOV? >We're still working on the sk.mov, but when (and if) >we get it up to the rat.org site, it'll be announced here. I assume the .mov is just a grab of a segment of video from a tape?? >The SNES game is currently in "Toys R Us" in Canada, If you live in the MidWest, FuncoLand may be a good place to check - they even have it listed in their "used" section of their paper for $29.99US, although I haven't seen it yet. :P >(I'm still shy all the action figures and one of the vids myself...) I'm still looking for a _complete_ listing of all the toys & stuff available.. ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 00:11:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Wow...just when you thought it was safe... >> Yes - But surely there could be a problem here, as the SK *newsgroup* is very much DOA! Prehaps we should start crossposting stuff? (is this technically possible?) > >Good point. I was going to manually cross over some of the listmail to the a.t.s. group (no >one posts to an empty group), but my server won't allow crossing stuff from SMTP to NNTP >(A lot of people still say the don't have access to a.t.s., so the prop can't be all that good). Hmm.. maybe those of us with access to the group should just copy & paste our mail into the newsgroup.. I think I'll start doing that. ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 00:11:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: SwatKats identity. >>I'll send the pic to Rat for everyone to look at -- it's cute. >Ok, in what name? It's called "RZ-CAL.JPG". It's on the ftp site now. >>Feral probably knows too (I think this was in an >>earlier thread) but doesn't let on that he does know. >I don't know about this, but if he found out about >them, he will react for sure. I don't think he would react. Afterall, they've saved MegaKat city more times than the Enforcers have, as well as Feral's life on more than one occasion. Feral knows he has a good thing going and doesn't want to mess it up, but he can't _look_ like he's protecting them either. Simon Leet wrote: >Hmmm ... I saw it more as a private joke than a hint, >Razor wasn't really looking at Callie, he was looking >past her at T-Bone with that "Hey! Waitaminute ..." >look on his face. Callie's just looking for a response >from Razor. Uhh.. I don't think so.. Look closely at the picture (I grabbed the best shot I could). Both Razor's & Callie's eyes kinda scrunch up at each other. It didn't really seem like a "wait a minute" look to me.. Edo Andromedo wrote: >BTW, did they ever meet outside the garage? I don't ever recall seeing this in a scene, but since Jake & Chance were once Enforcers, they may have met her then. Chance wrote: >That whole scene and things like [snip] >sets this show apart from all the other cardboard cut-out >characters populating most of the other ac/adv stuff [snip] >really rare - and there's all kind of chemistry between >the Kat guys, their allies, and even their enemies. Yes - very true. It's really unfortunate that they couldn't put more of the character relations into the stories; but when you've only got 22 minutes to do an entire show, some things have to be left out.. *whew* I don't think I broke the file size limit! ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 00:11:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. >Reminds me of something. When some of us were calling >H-B earlier, there were embryonic plans to offer a few >things to Katfans through the fan-mail channels. Have >any of the TCN-equipped heard anything like that >mentioned during airings? I think they were talking >T-Shirts 'n' stickers and other stuff at the time. YEAH! YEAH! Heck, I'd just like to be able to *buy* the stuff. However, I haven't heard zip from TCN regarding any Kat-related items. In fact, the only time I've seen SK mentioned on the air is for commercials promoting the "Afternoon Adventures" time-block. I saw 1 commercial for SK being aired on "Power Zone" (12:15am EST) - only 1 ep. was played, then the usual Fantastic 4, blah, blah came on. I'll tell you something tho - they're pushing hard for WPT! *sigh* Come on guys! Give it a rest! Besides, whatever happened to 1 new toon per week for the entire year?? I think there's only about 18 of 'em. >>Yes, it will look *much* better. And if there's an >>LD release, you can bet for sure there'd be a VHS one too! >Sure, for every LD release there's always a VHS release >(And vice versa), just as long Turner get the idea. Umm.. There's not _always_ an LD for every VHS release (unfortunately). >Can't buy what you can't find. A Laser Disc release of >that second-season art would be absolutely beautiful, as >even with the Turner release of the first season eps on >VHS you can notice how much better the eps look as >opposed to the tube. Ya know, if Mr. Turner released the complete series on LD, I would snatch it up in a second! (Heh. If he released the complete series on VHS I'd do the same thing!) Well, I can always *dream* can't I?! Afterall, TPS did release some of the WB collection that they have on LD.. >How about a compromise? A Kawa with the Cyclotron's >missiles and speed...perfect for Vancouver's traffic >problems! Heh. So _that's_ where Jake got the idea for the Cyclotron -- from the Katwasaki ZX-11! Although the ZX-11 only goes 200mph off the showroom floor, the Cyclotron does 300mph! ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 14:13:37 +0700 Subject: Re: Wow...just when you thought it was safe... >>Good point. I was going to manually cross over some of the listmail to the >>a.t.s. group , but my server won't allow crossing stuff from > >Hmm.. maybe those of us with access to the group should just copy & paste >our mail into the newsgroup.. I think I'll start doing that. I will support you on this Matt, I think that I will do it too, when we started this? new year? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 14:13:34 +0700 Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >>>Which grade? Lieutenant? > >I just noticed this today, but Feral referred to Steele as "Lieutenant >Commander Steele" in "Enter the MadKat". Lieutenant Commander??? we maybe have to think more on this Enforcer ranking system, the moment I heard Lieutenant Commander, I think of an Android. >So now Steele is a step above a Lt.? How do someone get promoted in the Enforcer? does the Enforcer has a main HQ (The center of all Enforcer from around the kat planet) somewhere? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 14:13:39 +0700 Subject: Re: SwatKats identity. >>I don't know about this, but if he found out about >>them, he will react for sure. > >I don't think he would react. Afterall, they've saved MegaKat city more >times than the Enforcers have, as well as Feral's life on more than one >occasion. But if they have gone out of the line (Although I doubt that they will), he will surely act, then MegaKat city will be doom of destruction. >Feral knows he has a good thing going and doesn't want to mess it >up, But if Feral keep this up, the SwatKats will surely be hang in some sort position that you will never sure what it is. >but he can't _look_ like he's protecting them either. Why? an Enforcer job is protecting somebody. >Simon Leet wrote: >>Razor wasn't really looking at Callie, he was looking >>past her at T-Bone with that "Hey! Waitaminute ..." >>look on his face. Callie's just looking for a response >>from Razor. > >Uhh.. I don't think so.. Look closely at the picture (I grabbed the best >shot I could). Both Razor's & Callie's eyes kinda scrunch up at each other. Stop this! I cann't take it any more, one more of this and I jump from MegaKat city hall roof. >It didn't really seem like a "wait a minute" look to me.. Arghhhh! (Running around like a lunatic and then jump from the roof.) :-) Matt wrote: >Edo Andromedo wrote: >>BTW, did they ever meet outside the garage? > >I don't ever recall seeing this in a scene, but since Jake & Chance were >once Enforcers, they may have met her then. I'm a little bit confuse here, how do being an ex-Enforcer got to do with a Deputy Mayor? Matt wrote: >Yes - very true. It's really unfortunate that they couldn't put more of the >character relations into the stories; but when you've only got 22 minutes to >do an entire show, some things have to be left out.. That's why we have fanfic for, to expand the boundaries of the kat universe, to boldy go where no kat has gone before. :-) >*whew* I don't think I broke the file size limit! The sky is the limit, then again, I think it was 6kb. :-) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 18:20:24 +0700 Subject: T-MINUS 5 hours, 46 minutes, and 50 seconds Today is the last day before 1995 is ending, hope that nothing will happen at midnight tonight. Just in case something do happen, any last word that you want to say about the kats? Happy New year everybody! hope Dark Kat aren't putting a bomb on my city tonight. :-) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 18:20:17 +0700 Subject: Lt.Feral living enviroment. Ok, since Miss Briggs house location is unknown to rest of us, I think that we also must focus ourself on finding the resting place of Lt.Feral (I'm not saying a house, since I predict that her living enviroment maybe not as comfy as Briggs's), could it be that she is living inside Enforcer HQ? Comments please? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 18:19:49 +0700 Subject: Re: Question about SK MOV >>>Where can I get the SK MOV? >>We're still working on the sk.mov, but when (and if) >>we get it up to the rat.org site, it'll be announced here. > >I assume the .mov is just a grab of a segment of video from a tape?? What do you expect? a special animation that was made just for us? I don't think that Ted would alllow that to be given to us, especialy after we just verbaly abuse him many time. (Well I do, don't know about everbody else though.) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 18:19:59 +0700 Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. >>Sure, for every LD release there's always a VHS release >>(And vice versa), just as long Turner get the idea. > >Umm.. There's not _always_ an LD for every VHS release (unfortunately). Ok, things may not always be perfect, but that's life. :-( >Heh. So _that's_ where Jake got the idea for the Cyclotron -- from the >Katwasaki ZX-11! Although the ZX-11 only goes 200mph off the showroom >floor, the Cyclotron does 300mph! But which one that will go to the repair shop first? :-) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 21:50:10 +0700 Subject: Callname. How do Razor and T-Bone stop from calling each other by their real name while in SwatKats mode? I'm always curious on why they never slip out, or do something like that, which BTW could blow their cover as a SwatKat. From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 08:09:26 -0800 Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >I just noticed this today, but Feral referred to Steele as "Lieutenant >Commander Steele" in "Enter the MadKat". So now Steele is a step above a Lt.? Hm. That's Naval rank. In the Navy, it goes something like (top to bottom): Captain, Commander, Lt. Commander and so on down to Ensign and Ordinary Seaman (similar to Starfleet). That means if Feral is Commander, Steele would indeed fill his spot as the next-highest rank should Feral have an accident....accidentally or otherwise. Wow. In that case, poor Felina is way down the Totem pole and also has to answer to Steele. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 08:56:26 -0800 Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >Lieutenant Commander??? we maybe have to think more on this Enforcer >ranking system, the moment I heard Lieutenant Commander, I think of an >Android. > >>So now Steele is a step above a Lt.? Okay, I think I figured it out for the fanfic writers. They appear to be using a mix of Naval, Land Forces and Civil Police rank, and I think this is how it goes...*ahem*..: The Mayor is ultimate civilian authority, and titular head of the Enforcers. Callie also has the power to tell Feral what to do as Deputy Mayor. 1) Commander 2) Lt. Commander (Lieutenant Commander) 3) Captain 4) Lieutenant 5) Sergeant 6) Corporal 7) Enforcer ("Patrolman" or "Officer" also). We haven't actually seen a Captain yet, but every service from the Navy through Fire Department has that rank, so I put it in for good measure. For those of us wondering where Colonel and Major would fit, those ranks aren't used in either the Naval or Civilian setups, but in the military "Major" would be above "Captain", and "Colonel" above "Major". If we aren't confused enough already, there's also "Lt. Colonel" in the Military, and rather a number of grades of "Sergeant". I'd stick with 1-7 for the purposes of fanfic, as you won't be contradicting anything so far in the series, nor hopefully anything to come. >How do someone get promoted in the Enforcer? does the Enforcer has a main >HQ (The center of all Enforcer from around the kat planet) somewhere? Looks like MegaKat City is the rough equivalent of "Cape Suzette" from "Tale Spin". CS was actually part of a continent called "Usland", but as it was never brought up in the series, it becomes irrelevant. Obviously, just as there was "Thembria" to "Cape Suzette", there is also some form of "Siam" to account for Mr. Yung's frequent flier mileage elsewhere on the Kat planet. "Enforcer HQ" is the sole headquarters of the Kats military, though there's obviously other places on the Kat planet with Military might as well: remember the accent of "The Ghost Pilot" and the apparent necessity for an Aircraft Carrier? WRT ranking, I think if you look at the respective uniforms of Jake and Chance, Feral, Felina, the Sergeant and Steele, you'll be able to see what they use for insignia. If I get a minute, I'll have a look myself. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From kaychang@eden.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 10:56:12 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Callname. >How do Razor and T-Bone stop from calling each other by their real name >while in SwatKats mode? I'm always curious on why they never slip out, or >do something like that, which BTW could blow their cover as a SwatKat. There are two episodes where Razor call T-Bone "Chance": The Ci-Kat-a and the Dark kat episode where one learns their history as former Enforcers (I always get the two episodes with "Dark Kat" in their names mixed up) Maybe it's a force of habit, but then, I don't know. Terra Chang Swat Kats fan, writer, nice person, totally crazy. From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 09:09:37 -0800 Subject: Re: Callname. >How do Razor and T-Bone stop from calling each other by their real name >while in SwatKats mode? I'm always curious on why they never slip out, or >do something like that, which BTW could blow their cover as a SwatKat. They screw up in a couple of instances like in "Wrath of Dark Kat" where they're fixing the TK in the hangar, and Razor calls T-Bone "Chance". I think they also screw up in "The Ci-Kat-a" If you think about it, even with all the hair in Callie's ears, she'd work it out instantly if either of the Kat guys were hung-over after a New Year's party and accidentally let their aliases slip in front of her (unless of course she's in a similar condition...). _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 12:28:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: SK WAVs SK WAVs are on their way! Look for 2 new ones a day until I'm dry out. I have : Night of Dark Kat Wrath of Dark Kat Ci-Kat-A Metallikats SK Themes look for these soon! A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 09:06:32 -0800 Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. >>Heh. So _that's_ where Jake got the idea for the Cyclotron -- from the >>Katwasaki ZX-11! Although the ZX-11 only goes 200mph off the showroom >>floor, the Cyclotron does 300mph! That "300 mph" reminds me of something...Razor's nuts. Insane, bent, warped...spent cartridge... getting measured for one of those Kat suits with extra-long sleeves tied up at the back. I mean, he does 300 mph on what is essentially a missile with wheels, parachutes on top of falling Nuclear devices, shimmies down the TK's grappling cable only to yell "Yeee-haah!!" atop the payload, and worst of all....he watches David Litterbin. T-Bone's supposed to be the maniac, but really, he's practically a school crossing-guard compared to Razor. >But which one that will go to the repair shop first? :-) Tough call. The Kawa would bread down way before the Cyclotron, if only for the reason that the Kats' machine is usually vaporized before it has a *chance* to mechanically fail. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From clell@gxl.woodtech.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: "Clell A. Harmon" Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 11:26:25 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. On Sun, 31 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > >Heh. So _that's_ where Jake got the idea for the Cyclotron -- from the > >Katwasaki ZX-11! Although the ZX-11 only goes 200mph off the showroom > >floor, the Cyclotron does 300mph! > > But which one that will go to the repair shop first? :-) > Given the pure-d bad luck Jake has with the Cyclotron, I would venture a guess that it would be the Cyc...... -Clell A Harmon USN (Retired) "The more you read about politics, you got to admit that each Party is worse than the other." -Will Rogers From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 12:35:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Help! SK questions for fanfic! >Gary Owens/Space Ghost thing.) Does Gary Owens do Space Ghost? He does Feral too. I can see it all now....:"Feral Coast to Coast" and Zorak could be Steele, and Felina Moltar. Feral : "Alrighty!" (Imagine That!) A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 01:00:10 +0700 Subject: Putting our favorite character in a futuristic costume. How about if we give them some cool futuristic costume, just for fun sake. Oh yeah, since it is now officialy a new year on my place, so happy new year everybody! :-) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 01:00:12 +0700 Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >>I just noticed this today, but Feral referred to Steele as "Lieutenant >>Commander Steele" in "Enter the MadKat". So now Steele is a step above a Lt.? > >Hm. That's Naval rank. In the Navy, it goes something like (top to >bottom): Captain, Commander, >Lt. Commander and so on down to Ensign and Ordinary Seaman (similar to >Starfleet). Starfleet was using a Naval rank, Gene Roddenberry was once in the Navy, that's why the naval influence got into SF. >That means if Feral is Commander, Steele would indeed fill his spot as the >next-highest rank should Feral have an >accident....accidentally or otherwise. If Steel(e) was a Lieutenant Commander, then this could happen, but if he is Lieutenant, what will happen to the Enforcer leadership? >Wow. In that case, poor Felina is way down the Totem >pole and also has to answer to Steele. Unless she leave the forces and became a civilian, she may do that if Steel(e) _do_ get the Enforcer leader rank. From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 01:00:15 +0700 Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >>Lieutenant Commander??? we maybe have to think more on this Enforcer >>ranking system, the moment I heard Lieutenant Commander, I think of an >>Android. >> >>>So now Steele is a step above a Lt.? > >Okay, I think I figured it out for the fanfic writers. They appear to be >using a mix of Naval, >Land Forces and Civil Police rank, and I think this is how it goes...*ahem*..: I'm going to use Naval, I was actualy going to use an Admiral, but that doesn't quite necesary in my story. >The Mayor is ultimate civilian authority, and titular head of the >Enforcers. Callie also >has the power to tell Feral what to do as Deputy Mayor. If both the Mayor and Deputy Mayor is gone, who will the civilian authority MegaKat city goes to? does city hall also has some ranking? (The Seven rank.) >I'd stick with 1-7 for the purposes of fanfic, as you won't be >contradicting anything so far in the >series, nor hopefully anything to come. Don't worry, I use the colonel thing in the far future of MegaKat, the Enforcer rank probaly has change by that time, even the Enforcer aren't the same again in my story. >>How do someone get promoted in the Enforcer? does the Enforcer has a main >>HQ (The center of all Enforcer from around the kat planet) somewhere? > >"Enforcer HQ" is the sole headquarters of the Kats military, though >there's obviously other places >on the Kat planet with Military might as well: remember the accent of "The >Ghost Pilot" and >the apparent necessity for an Aircraft Carrier? Could it be that there's another Feral working on another military like organization? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 01:56:16 +0700 Subject: Re: SK WAVs >SK WAVs are on their way! Look for 2 new ones a day until I'm dry out. > >I have : > >Night of Dark Kat >Wrath of Dark Kat Does these two above only has the sound of creeplings A.J.? ;-) >Ci-Kat-A >Metallikats >SK Themes What kind of quotes that all of these has? >look for these soon! From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 01:56:13 +0700 Subject: Re: Callname. >>How do Razor and T-Bone stop from calling each other by their real name >>while in SwatKats mode? I'm always curious on why they never slip out, or >>do something like that, which BTW could blow their cover as a SwatKat. > >There are two episodes where Razor call T-Bone "Chance": The Ci-Kat-a and >the Dark kat episode where one learns their history as former Enforcers (I >always get the two episodes with "Dark Kat" in their names mixed up) I think it was "The Wrath of Dark Kat", the SwatKats remember their origin in that episode. >Maybe it's a force of habit, but then, I don't know. Maybe when ever they put their mask, all their other identity are gone (Jake is gone, Chance is gone, what left is only Razor and T-Bone), and they became....the SwatKats. Could it be that they talk to each other in callname when ever they are wearing their flight suit. >Terra Chang Happy new year Terra! and also everybody on this list. From XXRJ13C@Prodigy.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: XXRJ13C@Prodigy.com (MISS DJ S CLAWSON) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 15:20:25 EST Subject: Re: Callname. >How do Razor and T-Bone stop from calling each other by their real name >while in SwatKats mode? I'm always curious on why they never slip out, or >do something like that, which BTW could blow their cover as a SwatKat. They did, in that episode with the cicadas or something (the bug one). Either they didn't notice it or the writers didn't, but no one was around. About a quarter or halfway into the episode, they're standing outside the labs with the bugs and Razor calls T-Bone "Chance." Dr. Jake From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 08:22:02 +0700 Subject: Re: Callname. >>How do Razor and T-Bone stop from calling each other by their real >>name while in SwatKats mode? I'm always curious on why they never slip >>out, or do something like that, which BTW could blow their cover as a >>SwatKat. > They did, in that episode with the cicadas or something (the bug >one). "The Ci-Kat-A", I think that was the name of the episode. >Either they didn't notice it or the writers didn't, but no one was >around. Just let call this an unknown bug in the episode, some story do have some bugs on it, and I don't mean the crawler type of bug. >About a quarter or halfway into the episode, they're standing outside the >labs with the bugs and Razor calls T-Bone "Chance." Well, if they said it while they are alone, I think it is can be excuse, but if this was said in front of the public, I think I better put hair on everybody ears. > Dr. Jake BTW Dr.Jake, if you sending a mail, try sending it to the kats mailing list only, your message has come in as double to my mailbox. From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 21:02:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Lt.Feral living enviroment. >Ok, since Miss Briggs house location is unknown to rest of us, I think that >we also must focus ourself on finding the resting place of Lt.Feral (I'm >not saying a house, since I predict that her living enviroment maybe not as >comfy as Briggs's), could it be that she is living inside Enforcer HQ? > >Comments please? Commander Feral's bedroom is pictured in "Enter the Madkat". (Boy, Feral really works out alot - he looks bigger than T-Bone.) I don't think I've ever seen Felina in any kinda "regular" place (like Callie always in City Hall). ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 21:01:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Wow...just when you thought it was safe... >>>Good point. I was going to manually cross over some of the listmail to the >>>a.t.s. group , but my server won't allow crossing stuff from >> >>Hmm.. maybe those of us with access to the group should just copy & paste >>our mail into the newsgroup.. I think I'll start doing that. > >I will support you on this Matt, I think that I will do it too, when we >started this? new year? > I've already started! Each message/response I put to the mail-list, I'll put on the newsgroup (except stuff like this which only belongs on the mail-list). ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 21:02:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Enforcer ranks ... >Okay, I think I figured it out for the fanfic writers. >They appear to be using a mix of Naval, Land Forces and >Civil Police rank, and I think this is how it goes...*ahem*..: [snip] >WRT ranking, I think if you look at the respective uniforms >of Jake and Chance, Feral, Felina, the Sergeant and Steele, >you'll be able to see what they use for insignia. If I get >a minute, I'll have a look myself. I've noticed that only Commander Feral and Lt. Cmdr. Steele wear "coats". Feral's epaulettes have 2 yellow bars on them, while Steele's only have 1. Felina's collar (depending on which outfit she's wearing) has some kind of markings which may indicate rank. If you have the picture "Felina4.gif" you get an idea of what I'm talking about. ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 09:16:36 +0700 Subject: Should Briggs remove some of her hair from her ears? Since we always talking about how she never could figure it out the SwatKats true identity (although I don't care much about this.), is it possible that her life could be more in danger if she found out their true identity? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 09:16:40 +0700 Subject: Re: Wacky list of toys. >On Sun, 31 Dec 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > >> >Although the ZX-11 only goes 200mph off the showroom >> >floor, the Cyclotron does 300mph! >> >> But which one that will go to the repair shop first? :-) > > Given the pure-d bad luck Jake has with the Cyclotron, I would >venture a guess that it would be the Cyc...... Of course chance said that the Cyclotron may not make it to the repair shop. :-) (I love this regular destruction of the Cyclotron, it just like the red shirt thing on the TOS) > -Clell A Harmon USN (Retired) From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 21:01:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: SwatKats identity. [snip] >>Feral knows he has a good thing going and doesn't want to mess it >>up, > >But if Feral keep this up, the SwatKats will surely be hang in some sort >position that you will never sure what it is. > >>but he can't _look_ like he's protecting them either. > >Why? an Enforcer job is protecting somebody. > I meant to say that _if_ Feral secretly knows, or has a suspision of the real identities of TB & R, he would be a fool to "let the kat out of the bag". Telling everykat the secret identities would surely put an end to the Swat Kats' saving MegaKat city. (Although it appears Ted has already done this.) Feral knows he's got a good thing with the SK protecting MK city. Even he knows that the Enforcers can't handle everything. (Feral says "I guess it's up to the Swat Kats" in "When Strikes Mutilor".) But Feral can't outwardly show that he approves of what TB & R do, even though (I think) he really does. >>>BTW, did they ever meet outside the garage? >> >>I don't ever recall seeing this in a scene, but since Jake & Chance were >>once Enforcers, they may have met her then. > >I'm a little bit confuse here, how do being an ex-Enforcer got to do with a >Deputy Mayor? That is to say that when Jake & Chance _were_ in the Enforcers, they may have met Callie.. ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 18:12:01 -0800 Subject: Re: Help! SK questions for fanfic! >>Gary Owens/Space Ghost thing.) > >Does Gary Owens do Space Ghost? He does Feral too. I can see it all >now....:"Feral Coast to Coast" and Zorak could be Steele, and Felina Moltar. > >Feral : "Alrighty!" (Imagine That!) Owens did the original "Space Ghost" (and of course, Feral), but was passed over for the "Space Ghost Coast-to-Coast" gig. Turner's PR machinery attempted to put a positive spin on what was strictly a cost-saving move by saying that "Owens was unavailable to work in Atlanta" - where SGC2C is done. Gary was really mad, as he'd done tons of free charity appearances for Hanna-Barbera/Turner, and some of his friends explained things a bit more clearly. It seems that the Atlanta SGC2C operation is non-Union, and Gary is of course a SAG member, and a bit too pricey for Ted's blood despite all the free goodwill stuff that the Turner org got gratis as part of the deal. Turner's "geographic" reasoning was shot down by a number of individuals in the industry, not least of which was Gary himself - very odd considering the traditional "keep your mouth shut or you'll never work in this town again" kind of mentality that tends to keep this stuff under wraps. Considering that some voice performers record their tracks in studios other than the primary one, and then forward the performance later electronically, "geography" didn't enter into it. When Turner was pressed for further explanation, the astonishingly silly 'reason' for Gary's pass-over was then given as "we needed someone more suited to improv". Um, yeah...like someone who's worked on everything from 50's radio through "Laugh-In" and beyond wasn't a seasoned improv artist? Nonsense. Seeing all this unfold helped to explain the varied "reasons" given at one time or another by the Turner org concerning the Kats cancellation. Most people simply believe what they read... ....some don't. (This is kind of tangential to the Kats, so maybe interested parties could save followups for e-mail?) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From chance@unix.infoserve.net Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 18:12:05 -0800 Subject: Kat guys must be Lt.'s Okay, I watched "Wrath of Dark Kat" (on the purchased Home Video that *does* work), and I got a pretty good idea what's what. Feral radios an order to an pilot obviously in charge of a flight of "Jumpers" (jets), and addresses him as "Captain", likely meaning that all the other pilots would be Lieutenants (all military pilots are Lt. or above). I noticed something about the rank insignia and uniforms as well. Ranks below "Lieutenant" all seem to have this kind of brownish-type uniform with a single gold stripe on the cuffs and epaulettes denoting "Sergeant", whereas the rank-and-file Enforcers don't appear to wear any rank whatsoever (same for Jake and Chance - who's epaulettes were obscured by by the harness padding in the flashbacks). HQ and command personnel like Steele and Feral seem to have this kind of overcoat-type thing in grey and purple, with the same single-stripe on cuff/epaulettes that "Sergeants" have, except in the case of Feral who has two such stripes on the epaulettes, and none on the sleeves (just a purple band on each). Feral addresses Steele as "Lieutenant" throughout the "Wrath of" ep, though Steele introduces himself to the ladies as "Lt. Commander Steele", his actual rank. Feral's car also differs from those of the other Enforcers, as his is immediately identifiable in a crowd shot as being his because it has the same color scheme as his uniform overcoat - purple and grey, as opposed to the other Enforcer vehicles which are uniformly light-grey/dark-grey. All this stuff is way more anal than I like to get, but heck...it was raining, I was bored. Oh yeah, the ep following "Wrath of Dark Kat" on the Home Vid tape "Strike of Dark Kat" is "Night of the Dark Kat" written by David Ehrman, and it represents (to me, anyway) the best Mook art in the first season full stop. It's beautiful. If you've got it canned, check out how the Kat guys and the TK move, their facial expressions especially, and the attention to little "extras" like the fact Razor forgot to shave that morning! Damn fine. Check out some of the faster movements as well - very much anime-style - especially in the scene where they insult Feral from a newly closed cockpit, and an earlier scene where Razor shakes his head side-to-side rapidly. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From LtFFeral@aol.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 21:27:47 -0500 Subject: Re:Wacky list of toys. (Other stuff deleted) >YEAH! YEAH! Heck, I'd just like to be able to *buy* the stuff. However, I >haven't heard zip from TCN regarding any Kat-related items. In fact, the >only time I've seen SK mentioned on the air is for commercials promoting the >"Afternoon Adventures" time-block. I saw 1 commercial for SK being aired on >"Power Zone" (12:15am EST) - only 1 ep. was played, then the usual Fantastic >4, blah, blah came on. You have to watch the full powerzone. I believe that between eps they stick Fantastic 4, Frankenstein Jr, Space Ghost, and other cartoon shorts. They usually show more than one ep of the advertised show (If my memory serves me right). From bruno.abud@mandic.com.br Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: bruno.abud@mandic.com.br (BRUNO ABUD) Date: Mon, 01 Jan 96 00:26:00 -0200 Subject: Re: Brazilian SK fan DR> HIYA BRUNO!!! :) DR> Saw ya on the Swat Kats mailing list!! Welcome to the list! DR> I'm Dan Ramos.. a list member located out in Springfield, DR> Massachusettes in the country of USA. I noticed you're hailing from DR> Brazil so I figured I'd give ya a reply to say a nice "Boa vinda au DR> nosa lista!" :) (I'm Portuguese) DR> ENJOY Hello, Ramos, how are you? Thanks for the reply. And, as says T-Bone: "Vamos chutar alguns rabos". Bruno Abud Radio Educadora AM/FM Brazil ... . ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.21 [NR] From bruno.abud@mandic.com.br Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: bruno.abud@mandic.com.br (BRUNO ABUD) Date: Mon, 01 Jan 96 00:26:00 -0200 Subject: Re: SwatKats identity. To: kats@bort.mv.net Hello: >In the episode "the Giant Bacteria", Cally's car broke down and >she went to the shop and talked with them. They're friends, EA> How is their friendship? does she just know them? or they are close EA> friends? >but I think she's kind of stupid not to figure it out. I think they are a bit close friends. She had the initiative to tell T-Bone and Razor about Jake and Chance, during their escape from the Enforcers. And telling this to SWAT KATS... they became flattered. Grande abraco!! Bruno Abud Radio Educadora AM/FM Brazil ... - ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.21 [NR] From danramos@ix.netcom.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: Dan Ramos Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 19:18:17 -0800 Subject: Re: Brazilian SK fan At 12:26 AM 1/1/96 -0200, you wrote: > Hello, Ramos, how are you? > > Thanks for the reply. And, as says T-Bone: "Vamos chutar alguns > rabos". heh.. I'm doin' alright! :) Boa ano novo, amigo!!! :) From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 22:41:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Secret Files are in front of our faces! The SK video game has HALF of the villian secret files. Why doesn't someone capture them and send em to rat? Also, As I saw in "KATSNES6.JPG" and "KATSNES7.JPG" were the selection menu where you choose T-Bone or Razor. I rented the game once, and the background looked cool, and I know when you switch between the character pictures, it shows a blank screen of that background. Could someone please grab it? TurboKat BBS 616-922-1733 Home of "Shadow of the Red Lynx" Part 1 Look for it at rat soon! NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: I think it's going to be TAILS@Elgrande.win.net please make note of this, for I will be checking that mailbox more often. A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From ah518@leo.nmc.edu Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 22:44:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: "Shadow of the Red Lynx" Part One "Shadow of the Red Lynx" Part 1 is complete. It is a little over a Kilobyte, so even the 300 baud FTP deprived people can have it in no time. I will be uploading it in parts, and eventually a complete story. TurboKatBBS 616-922-1733 "Go where no kat has gone before!" A.J. Freda Mac: "So sue me! How was I supposed to know that ah518@leo.nmc.edu was your sister's car back there?" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 22:44:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re:Wacky list of toys. >>"Power Zone" (12:15am EST) - only 1 ep. was played, then the usual Fantastic >>4, blah, blah came on. > >You have to watch the full powerzone. I believe that between eps they stick >Fantastic 4, Frankenstein Jr, Space Ghost, and other cartoon shorts. They >usually show more than one ep of the advertised show (If my memory serves me >right). I watched the whole thing - it actually seemed to end a little early to me and I only saw 1 Kat episode. No biggie tho, I can watch 'em everyday now. ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ---------------------------------------------------------- From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 10:54:17 +0700 Subject: Re: Wow...just when you thought it was safe... >>when we started this? new year? >> >I've already started! Each message/response I put to the mail-list, I'll >put on the newsgroup (except stuff like this which only belongs on the >mail-list). You may also know that I began to started crossposting too when I read your message on the newsgroup, anyone more on this crossposting stuff? From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 10:54:21 +0700 Subject: Re: Lt.Feral living enviroment. (Lt.Feral home location probality is been discuss) >>Comments please? > >Commander Feral's bedroom is pictured in "Enter the Madkat". >(Boy, Feral really works out alot - he looks bigger than T-Bone.) Hey! how come Commander Feral got into this discussion? this are for the Lieutenant one, not the Commander one, I'm not really interested on visiting the Commander house, of course unless Lt.Feral invite me to met her uncle. :-) >I don't think I've ever seen Felina in any kinda "regular" place >(like Callie always in City Hall). Maybe we should see her when she is off duty sometimes, and talk about something with her. (Maybe her favorite hang out when she is off duty is the arcade, probaly spend most of her times there playing Kat Kommando games.) From macsonic@rad.net.id Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:39:05 +0700 Subject: Re: SwatKats identity. > >In the episode "the Giant Bacteria", Cally's car broke down and > >she went to the shop and talked with them. They're friends, > > EA> How is their friendship? does she just know them? or they are close > EA> friends? > I think they are a bit close friends. Good, now I can rest easily now. :-) > She had the initiative to > tell T-Bone and Razor about Jake and Chance, during their escape > from the Enforcers. And telling this to SWAT KATS... they became > flattered. And they probaly be more flattered when they has found out that she also tell her friend about Jake and Chance, great things about Jake and Chance. > Bruno Abud From matt_w@mci.newscorp.com Fri Feb 2 18:40:17 1996 From: MATT WEBER Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 23:26:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Wow...just when you thought it was safe... >>I've already started! Each message/response I put to the mail-list, I'll >>put on the newsgroup (except stuff like this which only belongs on the >>mail-list). > >You may also know that I began to started crossposting too when I read your >message on the newsgroup, anyone more on this crossposting stuff? Actually, I think if we had half as much traffic on the newsgroup as we do here, the propagation would be a lot better! All I'm doing is a CTRL-A (Select All) & CTRL-C in the email message, clicking on the newsreader window & pressing CTRL-V. That's it! ---------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us | Purrcy on IRC & play: matt_w@mci.newscorp.com | soon on Furtoonia ----------------------------------------------------------