From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 1 09:22:46 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA23404 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:11:55 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA23399 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:11:51 -0500 Received: from d141.infoserve.net (d141.infoserve.net [199.175.157.141]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA10364 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 06:20:50 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 06:20:50 -0800 Message-Id: <199511011420.GAA10364@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: New theme song Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >If the Wb were to take over, they could of course come up with a >new theme song for the opening..... > >(to the theme of Animaniacs) > >It's time for Radical Squadron Kats >Razor bombs, and Viper plants >T-bone flys the TurboKat, while Bill Clinton plays the sax >(sorry couldn't come up with another line) >We're Rad-ical Squa-drone Kats >See Mack and Molly try to take over the universe >When kreplings group together, Callie hits them with her purse >Manx chases clients, Red Lynx does his worst > >and so on and so on, feel free to add to this rearrange it and have FUN, >unless everyone else deems this pathetically stupid, in which case let it go. Heheheheh...ANIMX and I go back to 1993...and I'd like to see it finished - if for nothing else than to enable me to post it to alt.tv.animaniacs - my other "home" aside from rec.arts.animation! BTW, Warners may INDEED be considering it's future with Hanna-Barbera. A "Freakazoid" episode was recently re-run _without_ the lethal "Jonny Quest" parody - apparently because someone questioned the logic of bashing a show (an H-B show) that Warners has such a big stake in (I dunno that for sure - just a logical assumption at this point in time). Warners owning "SwatKats" is a "Good Idea" (TM) - Ruegger, Hastings and the others over there are _not_ stupid individuals (unlike their counterparts at TPS), and they appreciate their fans (unlike their counter...well, you get the idea). _____________________________________________________________ "I'm on the Internet...sometimes every day. I use it to plug in and feel the pulse of my audience. I think most producers used to wait for the fan mail to roll in. You don't need to do that anymore. There's instant communication with your audience. -- The "X-Files" Chris Carter _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 1 10:49:21 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA24155 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:40:51 -0500 Received: from dialup.oar.net (dialup.oar.net [131.187.1.130]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA24150 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:40:49 -0500 Received: from sv1.gentire.com for lynn@gentire.com by dialup.oar.net (8.6.10/931123.1402) id KAA26459; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:39:10 -0500 Received: from sv6.gentire.com by sv1.gentire.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10082; Wed, 1 Nov 95 09:40:32 CST Date: Wed, 1 Nov 95 09:40:32 CST From: lynn@gentire.com (Ian Lynn) Message-Id: <9511011540.AA10082@sv1.gentire.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: New theme song Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Come join the Swatkat buddies and the secret connection Cal (once again sorry, couldn't think of a word close to Dot) just for fun we fly around the MegaKat city blocks They sentenced us to a junkyard, the one time we got caught But now we're loose, got DarkKat's goose and soon it will be cooked >It's time for Radical Squadron Kats >Razor bombs, and Viper plants >T-bone flys the TurboKat, while Bill Clinton plays the sax >(sorry couldn't come up with another line) >We're Rad-ical Squa-drone Kats >See Mack and Molly try to take over the universe >When kreeplings group together, Callie hits them with her purse >Manx chases clients, Red Lynx does his worst ....Feral flipped, he's got no grip, why bother to converse We're Rad-ical Squa-dron Kats.... **Once again add to it, I need help!! (you decide what kind)** From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 1 15:06:58 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA26525 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:56:10 -0500 Received: from leo.nmc.edu (leo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.239]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA26520 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:55:55 -0500 Received: by leo.nmc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA17748; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:56:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:56:56 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: ToonNet@aol.com Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Swat Kats cancellation Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Cartoon Network-- Why were SWAT Kats cancelled? And don't give me the "lack of merchandise" because as soon as SK stuff would get on the shelves it would dissapear. SWAT Kats was some of the best work Hanna-Barbera ever did. I never seen anything with such smooth animation and shading. Thousands, maybe millions of fans are very dissapointed with Ted Turner's actions. Please put SK back in the air. Please Reply, A.J. Freda A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 1 15:44:00 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA26641 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:19:49 -0500 Received: from maroon.tc.umn.edu (root@maroon.tc.umn.edu [128.101.118.21]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA26636 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:19:47 -0500 Received: by maroon.tc.umn.edu; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:18:10 -0600 Message-Id: <3097d6020025002@maroon.tc.umn.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:18:10 -0600 From: Timothy D Fay To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Swat Kats cancellation Content-Length: 137 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Wait a minute... My TV guide says the SWAT KATS are still on the Cartoon Network at 4:30pm CST every weekday. Have I missed something? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 1 16:56:09 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA27335 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 16:33:05 -0500 Received: from fsac5.pica.army.mil (fsac5.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.100]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA27326 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 16:33:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:29:06 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Swat Kats cancellation Message-ID: <9511011629.aa05797@fsac5.Pica.Army.Mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Wait a minute... My TV guide says the SWAT KATS are still on the Cartoon >Network at 4:30pm CST every weekday. Have I missed something? Cartoon Network has very poor distribution compared to TBS. I don't have it. I'm not alone. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 1 22:22:39 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA00150 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 22:08:54 -0500 Received: from ernie.beta.delphi.com (ernie-fore.beta.delphi.com [199.93.12.36]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA00145 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 22:08:51 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (slip110-172.bb.delphi.com [206.15.110.172]) by ernie.beta.delphi.com (8.6.11/Delphi Beta SMTP GW) with SMTP id WAA22138 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 22:08:40 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 22:08:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199511020308.WAA22138@ernie.beta.delphi.com> X-Sender: matt_w@pop.beta.delphi.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Delphi Mail Version 2.1.1b5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: MATT WEBER Subject: Re: THAT"S IT!!!!! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Andy Hill wrote: >>I read an interesting article in the latest TV Guide. >>An interview with Steven Spielberg. >>One particular question goes like this: >>... > >(I'm going to cross this to Warners and alt.tv.animaniacs >if you don't object.) Hey, you can cross post it to anywhere you'd like. I'm not sure how TVG feels about electronically transmitting their material all over the world, but who's gonna know? >>S.S.: Tiny Toons, Freakazoid!, and Animaniacs were obviously >>never intended to sell merchandise because we have not put >>... > >Wow. SS and SwatKats would go together like paw-in-glove! When I first read the article, I was completely floored at what I saw and had the _exact_ same thought about SS & SK together! >Kids WB will likely be looking for mid-season replacements >after November sweeps kills of "Earthworm Jim" and "Freakazoid" >(that's a guess folks, not a fact) - maybe I could suggest the >'Kats now that they're "part of the family"? Ah, yes, I can see it all now... Hear the opening strums on the electric guitar, "DA DAT DA-DA DAAAA" The usual picture of T-Bone pops on the screen like so: "Steven Spielberg presents:" (picture of T-Bone) SWAT KATS: The Radical Squadron" So, what was the address for WB animation & Dreamworks? -------------------------------------------------------------- matt_w@beta.delphi.com NOTE: This area under construction. Watch for falling anvils. -------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 1 22:42:38 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA00251 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 22:16:39 -0500 Received: from ernie.beta.delphi.com (ernie-fore.beta.delphi.com [199.93.12.36]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA00244 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 22:16:37 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (slip110-172.bb.delphi.com [206.15.110.172]) by ernie.beta.delphi.com (8.6.11/Delphi Beta SMTP GW) with SMTP id WAA22887 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 22:16:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 22:16:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199511020316.WAA22887@ernie.beta.delphi.com> X-Sender: matt_w@pop.beta.delphi.com X-Mailer: Windows Delphi Mail Version 2.1.1b5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: MATT WEBER Subject: Re: Swat Kats cancellation Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Wait a minute... My TV guide says the SWAT KATS are still on the Cartoon >Network at 4:30pm CST every weekday. Have I missed something? You are correct sir! SK still airs on "Afternoon Adventures" carried on Cartoon Network at 5:30pm EST (4:30 CST). It's on right after, ugh, Capt. Plant-it. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 2 10:52:43 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA04468 for kats-ll; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:41:36 -0500 Received: from caesar.elte.hu ([157.181.42.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA04425 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:35:01 -0500 Received: by caesar.elte.hu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA39732; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:38:32 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:38:32 +0100 (MET) From: Field To: Swat kats mailing list Subject: To cancel or not cancel Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Please someone enlighten me. I have Cartoon Network but the Kats seem to have gone from here as well. I had a look at the teletext and it doesn't list the Kats anymore. Or am I blind? field who is very furious From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 2 20:30:28 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA09653 for kats-ll; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:24:35 -0500 Received: from matrix.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA09648 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:24:31 -0500 Received: from net-1-210.austin.eden.com (net-1-210.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.210]) by matrix.eden.com (8.6.12/8.6.12.1) with SMTP id TAA05059 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 19:24:27 -0600 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 19:24:27 -0600 Message-Id: <199511030124.TAA05059@matrix.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Odd Circumstances: title change X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I've decided to change the title of my story, "Odd Circumstances," but I don't know what to change it to. I'm open to suggestions. Tell me if I should keep the name I have for it or if I should change it. If you think I should change it, then give me a suggestion, okay?? Terra who is getting annoyed by her friend Courtney Farris to "read my story, cause if you don't, I'll get real mad and stuff." "Another Halloween has come and gone. Might as well go into town and look at the Christmas decorations." -Calvin from "The Authorative Calvin and Hobbes." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 2 21:01:51 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA09911 for kats-ll; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:54:35 -0500 Received: from gxl.woodtech.com (gxl.woodtech.com [204.248.87.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA09906 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:54:32 -0500 Received: (from clell@localhost) by gxl.woodtech.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA01709; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:03:32 -0600 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:03:32 -0600 (CST) From: "Clell A. Harmon" To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: To cancel or not cancel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Field wrote: > > Please someone enlighten me. I have Cartoon Network but the Kats seem > to have gone from here as well. I had a look at the teletext and it > doesn't list the Kats anymore. Or am I blind? Well, I don't know about your eyesight, but the Kats were on today (2 nov) at 4:30 CST...... From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 2 21:35:16 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA10118 for kats-ll; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:27:04 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA10113 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:27:01 -0500 Received: from d152.infoserve.net (d152.infoserve.net [199.175.157.152]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA10842 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:36:54 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:36:54 -0800 Message-Id: <199511030236.SAA10842@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: To cancel or not cancel Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > > >On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Field wrote: > >> >> Please someone enlighten me. I have Cartoon Network but the Kats seem >> to have gone from here as well. I had a look at the teletext and it >> doesn't list the Kats anymore. Or am I blind? > > Well, I don't know about your eyesight, but the Kats were on >today (2 nov) at 4:30 CST...... Might be a bit different in Hungary though, huh? >From what I gather, the TCN schedules/offerings vary rather widely between countries (as you would expect), and until we get something better, scheduling enquiries still have to go to the dreaded "toonnet@aol.com" address. They'd probably be thrilled to hear from a European someone like Field. _____________________________________________________________ "I'm on the Internet...sometimes every day. I use it to plug in and feel the pulse of my audience. I think most producers used to wait for the fan mail to roll in. You don't need to do that anymore. There's instant communication with your audience. -- The "X-Files" Chris Carter _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 3 18:36:24 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA01660 for kats-ll; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:46:30 -0500 Received: from leo.nmc.edu (leo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.239]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA01653 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:46:23 -0500 Received: by leo.nmc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA07624; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:47:56 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:47:55 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: SK Video Game Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Please someone tell me if it is worth renting the SK Video Game. I wish they'd come out with maybe a "Design Your own 'Kats cartoon" CD-ROM. Or maybe have a contest to win the TurboKat and free pilot lessons!!! WOW!!!!! Let's all send our idea to the "dreaded" (In shivering words with drops of blood) ToonNet@aol.com Who knows? If we win the kat war, maybe they'll do sonething like that. BTW I remember someone wanting to know the finale of the SK 1st season. They said they didn't know the name, but I DO!!! It's "Katastrophe". A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Nov 4 03:08:08 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA07736 for kats-ll; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 02:55:28 -0500 Received: from cortez.delphi.com (cortez-meta.delphi.com [206.15.105.99]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA07731 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 02:55:26 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cortez.delphi.com (8.7/Delphi SMTP GW 1.0) id WAA05297 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 22:16:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ernie-fore.beta.delphi.com(199.93.12.36) by cortez.delphi.com via smap (V1.3) id sma005178; Fri Nov 3 22:16:12 1995 Received: from LOCALNAME (slip109-196.bb.delphi.com [206.15.109.196]) by ernie.beta.delphi.com (8.6.11/Delphi Beta SMTP GW) with SMTP id WAA14251 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 22:16:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 22:16:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199511040316.WAA14251@ernie.beta.delphi.com> X-Sender: matt_w@pop.beta.delphi.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Delphi Mail Version 2.1.1b5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: MATT WEBER Subject: IRC? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Ok, I tried connecting to 206.98.16.4 around 10pm EST (hoping someone would still be around). All I got was a message stating something about being an unauthorized user and got kicked out by the computer. Could someone please put up specific instructions on how to login? Or, could we try one of the more popular "public" sites? -------------------------------------------------------------- matt_w@beta.delphi.com NOTE: This area under construction. Watch for falling anvils. -------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Nov 4 11:46:34 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA11134 for kats-ll; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 11:34:12 -0500 Received: from leo.nmc.edu (leo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.239]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA11129 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 11:33:54 -0500 Received: by leo.nmc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA17531; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 11:35:24 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 11:35:23 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: IRC? In-Reply-To: <199511040316.WAA14251@ernie.beta.delphi.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Sorry, I forgot to notify everyone that they have dropped the visitor login. Does anyone know another IRC we could use? On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, MATT WEBER wrote: > Ok, I tried connecting to 206.98.16.4 around 10pm EST (hoping someone would > still be around). All I got was a message stating something about being an > unauthorized user and got kicked out by the computer. Could someone please > put up specific instructions on how to login? Or, could we try one of the > more popular "public" sites? > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > matt_w@beta.delphi.com > NOTE: This area under construction. Watch for falling anvils. > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Nov 4 11:50:49 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA11157 for kats-ll; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 11:36:17 -0500 Received: from leo.nmc.edu (leo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.239]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA11152 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 11:36:10 -0500 Received: by leo.nmc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA17710; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 11:37:45 -0500 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 11:37:44 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: SK Test Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Are you REALLY a TRUE SWAT Kat fan? Take this SK IQ test to find out! After you're done, count up the amount of "yes" answers and look at the graph to see how you've done. Get Ready! 1. Did Mack and Molly used to belong to a mob before they died? [Y/N] 2. Was Dr. Viper mutated? [Y/N] 3. Have you, or are you, making a tape of all the eps. for future viewing? [Y/N] 4. Did you know that T-Bone and Razor's real names are Jake Clawson and Chance Furlong? [Y/N] 5. Is Dark Kat responsible for getting T-B & R out of the Enforcers? [Y/N] 6. Have you seen all the eps.? [Y/N] 7. Can you name every episode that you saw? [Y/N] 8. Do you draw the SWAT Kats or try to? [Y/N] 9. Have you recorded SK sounds for future hearing? [Y/N] 10. If you were given a picture of one of the SWAT Kat's suits, would you be able to color all the places on it with the correct colors? (Colorblind people say yes) [Y/N] 11. Are you on the SWAT Kats mailing list? [Y/N] 12. Do you post notes on the mailing list? [Y/N] 13. Do you write letters to ToonNet and Hanna-Barbera and tell them how upset you are about the cancellation of SWAT Kats? [Y/N] 14. Did you know that SWAT Kats is cancelled? [Y/N] 15. Do you hate Ted Turner's guts for what he did? [Y/N] 16. Do you visit the rat.org FTP site regularly? [Y/N] 17. Do you wish you could get your hands on all the Animato magazines that have SWAT Kats in them? [Y/N] 18. Are you angry that TBS dropped SK? [Y/N] 19. Did you wish that Hanna-Barbera would've used a different brodcasting system than Turner Program Services? [Y/N] 20. Do you think SWAT Kats not only entertains, but it also teaches aerodynamics and increases vocabulary? [Y/N] Total correct: ________ Total Questions: __20__ Use this graph to see how you've scored!: 1-5 Not a fan 6-10 You watch the show, but not much else. 11-15 Good fan. Knows a lot. 16-20 True fan. You really do like SK!!!!! When I uploaded this, my score was 19. (I haven't seen 3 eps.) Did you beat it? If you don't already belong to the mailing list, e-mail majordomo@bort.mv.net and in the BODY, not heading, put SUBCRIBE KATS A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Nov 4 13:06:35 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA11882 for kats-ll; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:02:30 -0500 Received: from dns.mcn.net (root@dns.mcn.net [204.212.170.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA11877 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:02:28 -0500 Received: from blpm01-179.MCN.NET (blpm01-179.MCN.NET [204.212.170.179]) by dns.mcn.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA02948 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 11:02:17 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 11:02:17 -0700 Message-Id: <199511041802.LAA02948@dns.mcn.net> X-Sender: ninja@mcn.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: ninja@mcn.net (Kurt Prowell) Subject: subcribe Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net subcribe kats From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Nov 4 15:52:06 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA13093 for kats-ll; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 15:36:50 -0500 Received: from mercury.unt.edu (mercury.unt.edu [129.120.1.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA13088 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 15:36:47 -0500 Received: from jove.acs.unt.edu by mercury.unt.edu with SMTP id AA14917 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sat, 4 Nov 1995 14:36:46 -0600 Received: (from nvb0001@localhost) by jove.acs.unt.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) id OAA06067; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 14:34:26 -0600 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 14:34:25 -0600 (CST) From: Nicole Virginia Boultinghouse To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: IRC? In-Reply-To: <199511040316.WAA14251@ernie.beta.delphi.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, MATT WEBER wrote: > Ok, I tried connecting to 206.98.16.4 around 10pm EST (hoping someone would > still be around). All I got was a message stating something about being an > unauthorized user and got kicked out by the computer. Could someone please > put up specific instructions on how to login? Or, could we try one of the > more popular "public" sites? > Okay, I am not in IRC all that much, but when I am , I will open #swatkats. I have a fairly large server, and I think most everyone should be able to get there just using their normal IRC server. If not, one address is irc.sdsc.edu and I have more if there are any problems. Anyway, whenever I am in IRC I open the cannel in case anyone wants to stop by. I would recomend that anyone else open the channel if it is not there too, that way we can get it known. Just to let you know... Niki From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Nov 4 16:37:13 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA13486 for kats-ll; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 16:23:12 -0500 Received: from occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net (occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net [204.71.75.187]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA13481 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 16:23:10 -0500 Received: from s27-pm02.occ-uky.campus.mci.net (s27-pm02.occ-uky.campus.mci.net [205.219.158.86]) by occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA21146 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 15:23:00 -0600 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 15:23:00 -0600 Message-Id: <199511042123.PAA21146@occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net> X-Sender: mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net (David Minter) Subject: Re: SK Video Game Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Please someone tell me if it is worth renting the SK Video Game. Oh, it's definately worth a rental! It has the stage selection option of Mega Man, combines the RPG element of gaining experience points to raise levels and get more life, different weapons, and better strength. Piloting the Turbo Kat is well integrated into the game play, unlike other platform games with simulators mixed in. There are sound clips at level up that amazingly close to Barry Gordon and Charlie Adler. The designers were either fans or viewed the show to get ideas for there are cameo appearances everywhere. The ending should give you a chuckle. Also, the difficulty level isn't troublesome, and can be set. The first time I played it, I set the difficulty on the highest setting and got all the way up to Dark Kat himself ( i.e. not just the stage ) before I had to continue. The game has a password feature that, if you compare passwords long enough, you can break the code. All in all, it's definately worth a rent, and now that it's been out for about two months, should have dropped considerably enough in price to be worth buying, too. And, hey! It looks more like SWAT Kats than the Remco figures! ( I'm never going to get off of that subject, am I! :> ) David Minter mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net ( What an original signature! ) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Nov 5 15:28:57 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA27700 for kats-ll; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 15:07:34 -0500 Received: from leo.nmc.edu (leo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.239]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA27694 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 15:07:22 -0500 Received: by leo.nmc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA08294; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 15:08:53 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 15:08:53 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: SK Video Game In-Reply-To: <199511042123.PAA21146@occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Any Computer Programmers out there? If so, maybe we could all pitch in ideas for a non-official SK computer game. My parents really don't like me renting the machines and the SK game, but if it was on disks or CD-ROM or something, they would probably let me. One of my ideas for it is flying in the TurboKat and getting to switch between Razor and T-Bone. On Sat, 4 Nov 1995, David Minter wrote: > > Please someone tell me if it is worth renting the SK Video Game. > > > Oh, it's definately worth a rental! It has the stage selection option > of Mega Man, combines the RPG element of gaining experience points to raise > levels and get more life, different weapons, and better strength. Piloting > the Turbo Kat is well integrated into the game play, unlike other platform > games with simulators mixed in. There are sound clips at level up that > amazingly close to Barry Gordon and Charlie Adler. The designers were > either fans or viewed the show to get ideas for there are cameo appearances > everywhere. The ending should give you a chuckle. Also, the difficulty > level isn't troublesome, and can be set. The first time I played it, I set > the difficulty on the highest setting and got all the way up to Dark Kat > himself ( i.e. not just the stage ) before I had to continue. The game has > a password feature that, if you compare passwords long enough, you can break > the code. All in all, it's definately worth a rent, and now that it's been > out for about two months, should have dropped considerably enough in price > to be worth buying, too. And, hey! It looks more like SWAT Kats than the > Remco figures! ( I'm never going to get off of that subject, am I! :> ) > > > > David Minter > mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net > ( What an original signature! ) > > A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Nov 5 15:43:09 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA27727 for kats-ll; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 15:15:24 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA27722 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 15:15:19 -0500 Received: from d144.infoserve.net (d153.infoserve.net [199.175.157.153]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA12239 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 12:26:10 -0800 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 12:26:10 -0800 Message-Id: <199511052026.MAA12239@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SK Test Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >1. Did Mack and Molly used to belong to a mob before they > died? [Y/N] Yup. >2. Was Dr. Viper mutated? [Y/N] Yup...from NBCW scientist Dr. Elrod Purvis (which, if you rearrange the letters of, gives you "Dr. Viper" with letters to spare...) >3. Have you, or are you, making a tape of all the eps. > for future viewing? [Y/N] Oh yeah..with a _lot_ of help from 'States friends like Mark Lungo and Michael Hirtes. They aren't shown in Canada at all. >4. Did you know that T-Bone and Razor's real names are > Jake Clawson and Chance Furlong? [Y/N] Yessirree..and originally, the guys were going to be called "Chuck" and "Yeager" after the famous test-pilot of the same name, and T-Bone was nearly renamed "Doomsday" before the H-B creative team settled on "T-Bone". >5. Is Dark Kat responsible for getting T-B & R out of the > Enforcers? [Y/N] Nah...he was just the Katalyst (forgive the pun) - I'd say Feral caused the dismissal and Dark Kat just provided the opportunity. Kat-guys seem to blame Dark Krud though... >6. Have you seen all the eps.? [Y/N] Yup...thanks to the qualifier in Question 3... >7. Can you name every episode that you saw? [Y/N] I think so..but it'll take up too much space here. >8. Do you draw the SWAT Kats or try to? [Y/N] Oh yeah, every day...but I get kinda discouraged when I compare my stuff to Mook's. I might be able to mimic Hanho Heung-Up on a bad day though. I've got the 'Kat guys on the side of my Army Jeep, and on a pile 'o' stuff at work too. >9. Have you recorded SK sounds for future hearing? [Y/N] I made an audio tape of "The Ci-Kat-a" for listening to in the car (cuz I'd only seen it "scrambled" up to that point...). >10. If you were given a picture of one of the SWAT Kat's > suits, would you be able to color all the places on it > with the correct colors? (Colorblind people say yes) [Y/N] Yup...might even be able to quote the Pantone numbers...(PPPGALF material..) >11. Are you on the SWAT Kats mailing list? [Y/N] Anyone answering "no" will be shot by the Center for Disease Control as being infectiously stupid... >12. Do you post notes on the mailing list? [Y/N] Lurkers are generally shy...a fifth of Scotch solves that problem... >13. Do you write letters to ToonNet and Hanna-Barbera and > tell them how upset you are about the cancellation of > SWAT Kats? [Y/N] Oh yeah, about 16 of 'em at last count - not including the faxes. 300 letters if you count my downloads to Christian, but I guess that's cheating. >14. Did you know that SWAT Kats is cancelled? [Y/N] You don't say? >15. Do you hate Ted Turner's guts for what he did? [Y/N] The Center for Disease Control will be making an additional stop in Atlanta... >16. Do you visit the rat.org FTP site regularly? [Y/N] I get a "No" here...I wasn't even aware other Katfic had been posted aside from my own. D'oh! >17. Do you wish you could get your hands on all the Animato > magazines that have SWAT Kats in them? [Y/N] We might be able to work something out if there's enough interest, else you can write or call Animato! yourselves for back-issues. I'll continue typing the thing in tonight (and I'd scan the art in too, but I _still_ haven't fixed the fax.). >18. Are you angry that TBS dropped SK? [Y/N] Stupidity should be fatal. With all the hours of programming that TBS has to fill, they couldn't find room for the 'Kats along with reruns of Scooby and Gilligan's Island? I don't buy it...I suspect something happened and they were told to take it off - maybe to boot up the rating for TCN. >19. Did you wish that Hanna-Barbera would've used a different > brodcasting system than Turner Program Services? [Y/N] That's kind of like saying "don't you wish the Big Mac was made by Wendy's?" Turner owns Hanna-Barbera, so they're a captive audience. Kats _should_ have been offered to Fox, CBS and ABC though...but Turner was so arrogant that they publicly stated that "we don't need to...we already have enough outlets". >20. Do you think SWAT Kats not only entertains, but it > also teaches aerodynamics and increases vocabulary? [Y/N] Um...yeah, I suppose. Though you won't likely see "Speed of Heat" or "Matchhead Missiles" on your average Tomcat anytime soon. Sadly, if SK was a primer for aerodynamics, we'd have a lot more crashes! >If you don't already belong to the mailing list, e-mail >majordomo@bort.mv.net and in the BODY, not heading, put >SUBCRIBE KATS Not to be confused with that other word "subscribe"? Um, not to diss you for your attempt at membership recruiting, but why preach to the converted? All of us are already members! (Post this whole thing to a.t.s.k. if you can - it needs something up there!) _____________________________________________________________ "Sorry for staring...it's just that you looked so much like the 'Cheshire Cat' for a minute there, and I was rather hoping bits of you would begin to disappear.." (--Me) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Nov 5 16:17:47 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA28086 for kats-ll; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 16:03:40 -0500 Received: from ernie.beta.delphi.com (root@ernie-fore.beta.delphi.com [199.93.12.36]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA28081 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 16:03:38 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (slip110-201.bb.delphi.com [206.15.110.201]) by ernie.beta.delphi.com (8.6.11/Delphi Beta SMTP GW) with SMTP id QAA11072 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 16:03:27 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 16:03:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199511052103.QAA11072@ernie.beta.delphi.com> X-Sender: matt_w@pop.beta.delphi.com X-Mailer: Windows Delphi Mail Version 2.1.1b5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: MATT WEBER Subject: Re: SK Video Game Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 03:08 PM 11/5/95 -0500, you wrote: > Any Computer Programmers out there? If so, maybe we could all >pitch in ideas for a non-official SK computer game. My parents really >don't like me renting the machines and the SK game, but if it was on >disks or CD-ROM or something, they would probably let me. One of my ideas >for it is flying in the TurboKat and getting to switch between Razor and >T-Bone. A while back, I started working on a DOOM .wad file with SK graphics & such. I didn't get very far and it's been put on the back burner until I get some time to work some more on it. (Heh. "Free-time". What a concept! I'm sure that some day I'll find out what it is first-hand. ) -------------------------------------------------------------- matt_w@beta.delphi.com NOTE: This area under construction. Watch for falling anvils. -------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Nov 7 19:23:11 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA22913 for kats-ll; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 19:10:20 -0500 Received: from dir1.ulst.ac.uk (dir1.ulst.ac.uk [193.61.189.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA22908 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 19:10:16 -0500 From: C.Carter@ulst.ac.uk Received: from mgvax.ulst.ac.uk (mgvax.ulst.ac.uk [193.61.189.3]) by dir1.ulst.ac.uk (8.6.9/UURelay1.1a) with SMTP id AAA06100 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 00:09:25 GMT Received: by mgvax.ulst.ac.uk (MX V4.1 VAX) id 3672; Wed, 08 Nov 1995 00:05:45 GMT Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 00:05:44 GMT To: KATS@bort.mv.net Message-ID: <009990F6.69759B00.3672@mgvax.ulst.ac.uk> Subject: Re : SK Video Game Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I haven't been on this list long, but when I saw this I thought prehaps now was as good a time as any to stop lurking... ARTHUR JOHN FREDA wrote : > Any Computer Programmers out there? If so, maybe we could all >pitch in ideas for a non-official SK computer game. My parents really >don't like me renting the machines and the SK game, but if it was on >disks or CD-ROM or something, they would probably let me. One of my ideas >for it is flying in the TurboKat and getting to switch between Razor and >T-Bone. Yep! I write games for Acorn machines (which no-one's ever heard of!), and I'm just starting to fiddle about with PC games. I haven't actually seen the "official" game (what format is it on? If it's for the SNES, then I should at least be able to play it at some point), but the idea of an unofficial one is interesting... I dunno how whoever wrote the official one would react though - after all, they *paid* for the license (I assume). I think it would be nice to do the game in 3D, looking a bit like StarFighter 3000 (another Acorn game, being ported to the 3D0,PC,Playstation, ect.) with a huge polygon city to fly around, along with some of the outside areas, such as the canyons. There could be a series of missions based on individual episodes, with the landscape altering to suit - The (damn can't remember the name) episode with Rex Shard in it would be a great excuse to put in an entirely crystal level with nice effects like in Donkey Kong (glittering crystals with light shining through then and creating rainboms of colour). The Cyclotron and the speedboat (does it have a name) could be incorperated too, adding vareity to the game. You would start each mission in the TurboKat, but could launch the Cyclotron or land back at the hanger to get the boat. A 1st person walking-around-the-city view would also be nice, allowing you to explore buildings and so on (although this could make the game world unbelievably difficult to design :-( ). A couple of immediately obvious problems, though : 1) How do you control 2 characters at once? The best solution would probably be to have the other character use some form of AI system, but it would have to be damn good to get the right atmosphere. 2) The 3D engine would have to be very fast to cope with the sort of speeds needed to keep the gameplay fluid enough. Anyway, a very nice idea - If only we could persuade someone to give us a free license... (I wonder - Does the company who have done this other game have the console license only, or a license for computer versions, too?) Well... That was a ridiculously long first message, but I hope at least some of it makes sense! Seeya! /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Ben Carter | Disclaimer : Anything which you find offensive,| |\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\| annoying or just plain wrong is a typo. | | c.carter@ulst.ac.uk | So there. | \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Nov 7 22:36:43 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA24853 for kats-ll; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:33:46 -0500 Received: from bert.beta.delphi.com (root@bert-fore.beta.delphi.com [199.93.12.35]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA24848 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:33:43 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (slip110-165.bb.delphi.com [206.15.110.165]) by bert.beta.delphi.com (8.6.11/Delphi Beta SMTP GW) with SMTP id WAA16704 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:33:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:33:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199511080333.WAA16704@bert.beta.delphi.com> X-Sender: matt_w@pop.beta.delphi.com X-Mailer: Windows Delphi Mail Version 2.1.1b5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: MATT WEBER Subject: Re: Re : SK Video Game Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 12:05 AM 11/8/95 GMT, you wrote: > > I haven't been on this list long, but when I saw this I thought prehaps now >was as good a time as any to stop lurking... >I haven't actually seen the "official" game (what format is it on? It's available for SNES only (as far as I know) and is written/distributed by HudsonSoft. I've seen it available in some local places according to their software list, but havn't seen the actual game yet. > I think it would be nice to do the game in 3D, looking a bit like Do you mean like first-person 3D (Doom-esque) or the parallax scrolling type, or both in the same game. For instance, use the TurboKat in the parallax scrolling type portion in a "Defender" or "1942" clone, then switch to 1st person when doing paw-to-paw combat. > The Cyclotron and the speedboat (does it have a name) could be incorperated Very cool. And don't forget about the Thunder Truck (?) > A couple of immediately obvious problems, though : > >1) How do you control 2 characters at once? The best solution would probably >be to have the other character use some form of AI system, but it would have >to be damn good to get the right atmosphere. How 'bout 2 player via modem/network? >Anyway, a very nice idea - If only we could persuade someone to give us a >free license... (I wonder - Does the company who have done this other game >have the console license only, or a license for computer versions, too?) Hmm.. This brings up an interesting point. Since Turner seems to want nothing to do with Kats anymore and it's become kinda Taboo around TPS, why would he really care? >Well... That was a ridiculously long first message, but I hope at least some >of it makes sense! Hope to see more of your messages! Don't be such a stranger, er, lurker! -------------------------------------------------------------- matt_w@beta.delphi.com NOTE: This area under construction. Watch for falling anvils. -------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Nov 7 22:51:53 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA24903 for kats-ll; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:38:30 -0500 Received: from bert.beta.delphi.com (root@bert-fore.beta.delphi.com [199.93.12.35]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA24898 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:38:28 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (slip110-165.bb.delphi.com [206.15.110.165]) by bert.beta.delphi.com (8.6.11/Delphi Beta SMTP GW) with SMTP id WAA17140 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:38:26 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:38:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199511080338.WAA17140@bert.beta.delphi.com> X-Sender: matt_w@pop.beta.delphi.com X-Mailer: Windows Delphi Mail Version 2.1.1b5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: MATT WEBER Subject: Copyrights? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Ben's response about the video game made me think. I know it is technically "illegal" to use any Kats images, etc. for personal profit without licensing from TPS, HB, yadda yadda. And I know that you can't really get into _big_ trouble by doing some personal artwork, stories, etc. & sending it to some friends. So, as long as whatever you're doing is non-profit and just for friends, could you get into hot water by having T-shirts or mouse pads printed and distributed "at-cost" to a few people? -------------------------------------------------------------- matt_w@beta.delphi.com NOTE: This area under construction. Watch for falling anvils. -------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 8 02:08:08 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA26616 for kats-ll; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 01:41:31 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA26611 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 01:41:27 -0500 Received: from d161.infoserve.net (d161.infoserve.net [199.175.157.161]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA17212 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:42:55 -0800 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:42:55 -0800 Message-Id: <199511080642.WAA17212@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Re : SK Video Game Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > > I haven't been on this list long, but when I saw this I thought prehaps now >was as good a time as any to stop lurking... Too bad it isn't contagious... > Yep! I write games for Acorn machines (which no-one's ever heard of!), and >I'm just starting to fiddle about with PC games. I haven't actually seen the >"official" game (what format is it on? If it's for the SNES, then I should at >least be able to play it at some point), but the idea of an unofficial one is >interesting... I dunno how whoever wrote the official one would react >though - after all, they *paid* for the license (I assume). The current game is written for the SNES, and should be available in the UK - I mean, even Canada has it in Toys R Us (for 74.99 though...ouch). If you go visit rat.org, you'll find some screen grabs of various scenes in the game courtesy of Brad Clark. I think they're titled "KATSNES1" through 7. individual episodes, with the landscape altering to suit - The (damn can't >remember the name) episode with Rex Shard in it would be a great excuse to >put in an entirely crystal level with nice effects like in Donkey Kong >(glittering crystals with light shining through then and creating rainboms of >colour). "Chaos in Crystal" is the Shard ep. I'd like to see the first level be the "simulator" thing outlined by Kats writer Lance Falk in that "Cold War" script I typed in - you know, with appearances by all the villains from the first 13 eps. It'd give folks unfamiliar with the show a preview of coming attractions on higher levels. 1) How do you control 2 characters at once? The best solution would probably >be to have the other character use some form of AI system, but it would have >to be damn good to get the right atmosphere. This would be cool, but would be a heckuva program on its own. Razor or T-Bone's moves (whichever is the AI character - i.e. not run by the player) would have to be based on a stunning array of variables. I can't think of a game I'd rather play though. >Anyway, a very nice idea - If only we could persuade someone to give us a >free license... (I wonder - Does the company who have done this other game >have the console license only, or a license for computer versions, too?) As far as I know, the licensee, HudsonSoft, has only thought far enough ahead to produce the SNES version (which itself was _horrendously_ late). >Well... That was a ridiculously long first message, but I hope at least some >of it makes sense! Heck, if it made sense, you'd be in the wrong list... _____________________________________________________________ "Sorry for staring...it's just that you looked so much like the 'Cheshire Cat' for a minute there, and I was rather hoping bits of you would begin to disappear.." (--Me) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 8 02:11:05 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA26825 for kats-ll; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 02:00:05 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA26770 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 01:59:58 -0500 Received: from d161.infoserve.net (d161.infoserve.net [199.175.157.161]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA18822 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 23:01:30 -0800 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 23:01:30 -0800 Message-Id: <199511080701.XAA18822@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Copyrights? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Ben's response about the video game made me think. I know it is technically >"illegal" to use any Kats images, etc. for personal profit without licensing >from TPS, HB, yadda yadda. And I know that you can't really get into _big_ >trouble by doing some personal artwork, stories, etc. & sending it to some >friends. So, as long as whatever you're doing is non-profit and just for >friends, could you get into hot water by having T-shirts or mouse pads >printed and distributed "at-cost" to a few people? I think Tim Fay knows more about this end of things than I, but from what I know, making tapes of the show for friends at no charge won't get your whiskers pulled or your claws removed, but selling such things would. I think the T-Shirts could conceivably also fall within this category. Copyrighted artwork is a bit of a bitch though...the extent to which people who do this kind of stuff are hunted down and exterminated varies greatly with the organization. Still, I want my Kats Tee - so Teddy can get stuffed. _____________________________________________________________ "Sorry for staring...it's just that you looked so much like the 'Cheshire Cat' for a minute there, and I was rather hoping bits of you would begin to disappear.." (--Me) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 8 02:23:54 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA26747 for kats-ll; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 01:54:42 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA26742 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 01:54:40 -0500 Received: from d161.infoserve.net (d161.infoserve.net [199.175.157.161]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA18433 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:56:09 -0800 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:56:09 -0800 Message-Id: <199511080656.WAA18433@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Re : SK Video Game Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >At 12:05 AM 11/8/95 GMT, you wrote: > >It's available for SNES only (as far as I know) and is written/distributed >by HudsonSoft. I've seen it available in some local places according to >their software list, but havn't seen the actual game yet. Try Toys R Us, Target, Wal-Mart - all of which supposedly have it. >> The Cyclotron and the speedboat (does it have a name) could be incorperated > >Very cool. And don't forget about the Thunder Truck (?) Oh yeah, Thundertruck....when someone told me the concept for Thundertruck, I thought it pretty dumb - until I saw "When Strikes Mutilor" and that amazing sequence when they're dodging the laser bolts and they drive off the pier. Take a close look at what Razor does during the whole sequence - _damn_ good artwork. Anyway, T-Truck would be an indispensible part of said game - maybe in one or two levels you actually get a choice of vehicle to use - Cyclotron, TurboKat, Jet-Powered ejection seats, SandKat, Thundertruck, TurboMole... For adversaries, don't forget the almost unbeatable combination of "The Ghost Pilot" and the new Enforcer Jet: "The Blue Manx". Talk about your basic dogfight. >Hmm.. This brings up an interesting point. Since Turner seems to want >nothing to do with Kats anymore and it's become kinda Taboo around TPS, >why would he really care? You could call it a version of fan-fiction - therefore "parody" - and not lose any sleep over it. _____________________________________________________________ "Sorry for staring...it's just that you looked so much like the 'Cheshire Cat' for a minute there, and I was rather hoping bits of you would begin to disappear.." (--Me) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 8 07:21:36 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id HAA29733 for kats-ll; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 07:15:33 -0500 Received: from netman.iscs.nus.sg (root@netman.iscs.nus.sg [137.132.87.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA29727 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 07:15:19 -0500 Received: from sununx.iscs.nus.sg (leetwail) by netman.iscs.nus.sg with SMTP id AA11855 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for KATS@bort.mv.net); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 20:15:02 +0800 Received: (from leetwail@localhost) by sununx.iscs.nus.sg (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA04727; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 20:14:59 +0800 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 20:14:59 +0800 (GMT-8) From: Leet Wai Leong Simon To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: KATS@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Re : SK Video Game In-Reply-To: <009990F6.69759B00.3672@mgvax.ulst.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Wed, 8 Nov 1995 C.Carter@ulst.ac.uk wrote: > Yep! I write games for Acorn machines (which no-one's ever heard of!), and > I'm just starting to fiddle about with PC games. I haven't actually seen the > "official" game (what format is it on? If it's for the SNES, then I should at > least be able to play it at some point), but the idea of an unofficial one is > interesting... I dunno how whoever wrote the official one would react > though - after all, they *paid* for the license (I assume). Who cares?! Turner certainly doesn't seem to ... > I think it would be nice to do the game in 3D, looking a bit like > StarFighter 3000 (another Acorn game, being ported to the 3D0,PC,Playstation, > ect.) with a huge polygon city to fly around, along with some of the outside > areas, such as the canyons. There could be a series of missions based on > individual episodes, with the landscape altering to suit - The (damn can't > remember the name) episode with Rex Shard in it would be a great excuse to > put in an entirely crystal level with nice effects like in Donkey Kong > (glittering crystals with light shining through then and creating rainboms of > colour). I think the G-LOC flight engine (a sega genesis game) would be great ... and should probably be easier to do too. Keep realism down to a minimum and keep the action coming in fast and furious. I don't really like the idea of doing levels based on particular episodes though, might be better to construct levels around elements from the series, but not the plot ... it's like everyone already knows the weaknesses of the monsters and such. For example, you might want to center an entire level around Dr. Viper, but you probably wouldn't want to have the giant bacteria as the final boss ... a sub-boss maybe, then surprise the heck out of the players when they find out its only a cover for something bigger and meaner >:) > The Cyclotron and the speedboat (does it have a name) could be incorperated > too, adding vareity to the game. You would start each mission in the > TurboKat, but could launch the Cyclotron or land back at the hanger to get > the boat. A 1st person walking-around-the-city view would also be nice, > allowing you to explore buildings and so on (although this could make the > game world unbelievably difficult to design :-( ). Forget about too much realism, it's just not feasible, kinda like Bethseda Softworks' "Arena" which had lots and lots of huge cities to explore, but essentially very little to do. It might be nice to have different levels structured around different recurring villians like the Metallikats or the Pastmaster and have different "hotspots" around a map of the city which can be done in any order by the player before facing off with the final boss, with each "hotspot" having a different goal to be accomplished and even a different engine. I think a platform engine would be more appropriate for the sequences in which the Kats are on foot because, if done right, it gives the game a much more cartoon feel to it ... Megaman X is an example that comes to mind. > A couple of immediately obvious problems, though : > > 1) How do you control 2 characters at once? The best solution would probably > be to have the other character use some form of AI system, but it would have > to be damn good to get the right atmosphere. Having those sequences in a platform engine would make this easier to solve ... You mentioned Donkey Kong earlier, I believe? I thought that had one of the best solutions to this kind of problem in all my years of game playing. Use a tag mode or something similar ... and make sure that T-Bone and Razor have different strengths and weaknesses so that the choice of Kat in any situation leads to different challenges. Have a 2-player mode on the same computer ... modem might be nice, but it's probably more trouble than it's worth. > 2) The 3D engine would have to be very fast to cope with the sort of speeds > needed to keep the gameplay fluid enough. True, you could always use a "psuedo-3D" engine like in DOOM or just use the platform engine (see a pattern here? ;) The flight sim bit would still be something of a problem though. One thing I would REALLY like to see is the ability to choose your weaponary before you embark on any level or sub-level, like picking out what kind of ammo for the glovatrix or what kind of missles to use for the TurboKat ... I REALLY hated the fact that the Hudsonsoft game had nothing but plain 'ol missles and the glovatrix had to be upgraded by leveling up (which was a fairly ridiculous concept after a while because you just became tremendously powerful ...) > Well... That was a ridiculously long first message, but I hope at least some > of it makes sense! Heck, ever been to a newsgroup? ;) I've got a whole buncha nifty ideas for a SWATKats game (which was probably why I felt rather disappointed with the SNES one) so if anyone is seriously thinking about making a game, please mail me! -Simon Leet (leetwail@iscs.nus.sg) NOTE: My account is about to be terminated, if no-one receives any replies, you have my apologies. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 9 00:51:33 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA21746 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 00:37:34 -0500 Received: from occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net (occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net [204.71.75.187]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA21741 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 00:37:32 -0500 Received: from s03-pm01.occ-uky.campus.mci.net (s03-pm01.occ-uky.campus.mci.net [205.219.158.32]) by occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA04871 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 23:37:23 -0600 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 23:37:23 -0600 Message-Id: <199511090537.XAA04871@occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net> X-Sender: mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net (David Minter) Subject: Re: Re : SK Video Game Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >ARTHUR JOHN FREDA wrote : > Yep! I write games for Acorn machines (which no-one's ever heard of!), and >I'm just starting to fiddle about with PC games. I haven't actually seen the >"official" game (what format is it on? If it's for the SNES, then I should at >least be able to play it at some point), but the idea of an unofficial one is >interesting... I dunno how whoever wrote the official one would react >though - after all, they *paid* for the license (I assume). The only video games to my knowledge are the Hudson Soft Super NES game and a hand held game seen at Kay-Bee that I've only heard about here. I don't think Hudson would mind since the game hasn't, sadly, set any records in sales for the company. But, Turner probably would since he just wants to get his hands around the Kats' and our throats and strangle the fans with his silly actions! >1) How do you control 2 characters at once? The best solution would probably >be to have the other character use some form of AI system, but it would have >to be damn good to get the right atmosphere. Well, not necessarily two characters at once, but how about an idea I had while playing the SNES game. There, tou can choose to enter a stage as T-Bone or Razor, but you must finish the stage or die to change Kats. I think being able to switch between them in a stage to complete that stage's particular traps would be nice. In the SNES game, there are parts that only one of the particular Kats can reach ( Razor with a jet-pack and T-Bone with a bazooka ). This I think would add a strategy element to the game. >Well... That was a ridiculously long first message, but I hope at least some >of it makes sense! Well, you've probably written more than I have lurking about this listserv. :> But then, I rarely speak unless spoken to anyway... David Minter mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net ( What an original signature! ) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 9 04:22:47 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id EAA24822 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 04:09:16 -0500 Received: from netcom13.netcom.com (razor@netcom13.netcom.com [192.100.81.125]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id EAA24817 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 04:09:13 -0500 Received: by netcom13.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id BAA12332; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 01:08:23 -0800 From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Message-Id: <199511090908.BAA12332@netcom13.netcom.com> Subject: More SK figurine sightings... To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 01:08:23 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 378 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net While in Hawaii on vacation last week (well, I was there for a couple of weeks, but who's counting? ;-), I stopped by a Kay-Bee Toy Store and saw a few SK action figures there. Apologies if this topic was already mentioned... but I *was* off the digest temporarily during my vacation. -- ====================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ==================== From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 9 14:38:09 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA05234 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:28:44 -0500 Received: from leo.nmc.edu (leo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.239]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA05228 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:28:30 -0500 Received: by leo.nmc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA22802; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:28:52 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:28:51 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: KATS@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Re : SK Video Game In-Reply-To: <009990F6.69759B00.3672@mgvax.ulst.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Actually, since I got a good report card, I can now rent the SK game and a Super Nintendo!!!! On Wed, 8 Nov 1995 C.Carter@ulst.ac.uk wrote: > > I haven't been on this list long, but when I saw this I thought prehaps now > was as good a time as any to stop lurking... > > ARTHUR JOHN FREDA wrote : > > > Any Computer Programmers out there? If so, maybe we could all > >pitch in ideas for a non-official SK computer game. My parents really > >don't like me renting the machines and the SK game, but if it was on > >disks or CD-ROM or something, they would probably let me. One of my ideas > >for it is flying in the TurboKat and getting to switch between Razor and > >T-Bone. > > Yep! I write games for Acorn machines (which no-one's ever heard of!), and > I'm just starting to fiddle about with PC games. I haven't actually seen the > "official" game (what format is it on? If it's for the SNES, then I should at > least be able to play it at some point), but the idea of an unofficial one is > interesting... I dunno how whoever wrote the official one would react > though - after all, they *paid* for the license (I assume). > > I think it would be nice to do the game in 3D, looking a bit like > StarFighter 3000 (another Acorn game, being ported to the 3D0,PC,Playstation, > ect.) with a huge polygon city to fly around, along with some of the outside > areas, such as the canyons. There could be a series of missions based on > individual episodes, with the landscape altering to suit - The (damn can't > remember the name) episode with Rex Shard in it would be a great excuse to > put in an entirely crystal level with nice effects like in Donkey Kong > (glittering crystals with light shining through then and creating rainboms of > colour). > > The Cyclotron and the speedboat (does it have a name) could be incorperated > too, adding vareity to the game. You would start each mission in the > TurboKat, but could launch the Cyclotron or land back at the hanger to get > the boat. A 1st person walking-around-the-city view would also be nice, > allowing you to explore buildings and so on (although this could make the > game world unbelievably difficult to design :-( ). > > A couple of immediately obvious problems, though : > > 1) How do you control 2 characters at once? The best solution would probably > be to have the other character use some form of AI system, but it would have > to be damn good to get the right atmosphere. > > 2) The 3D engine would have to be very fast to cope with the sort of speeds > needed to keep the gameplay fluid enough. > > Anyway, a very nice idea - If only we could persuade someone to give us a > free license... (I wonder - Does the company who have done this other game > have the console license only, or a license for computer versions, too?) > > Well... That was a ridiculously long first message, but I hope at least some > of it makes sense! > > Seeya! > > /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\ > | Ben Carter | Disclaimer : Anything which you find offensive,| > |\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\| annoying or just plain wrong is a typo. | > | c.carter@ulst.ac.uk | So there. | > \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ > A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 9 18:52:14 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA12421 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 18:36:38 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA12416 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 18:36:35 -0500 Received: from net-1-216.austin.eden.com (net-1-216.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.216]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.1.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id RAA03127 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 17:36:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 17:36:28 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199511092336.RAA03127@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: SK Video Game on other systems (I think) X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hi it's me, the Annoying One Who Asks Too Many Questions. (Terra, some people think I'm my mom, Kay. :) ) I am reading alot on making aun-offical game. I'd like that, if we can actually manage to do it. Someone who has played the game e-me (personally, not to the list) and tell me about sutff like the different levels and junk. I'd find out myself, but I don't HAVE a SNES. I have Genisis. That does cause problems, ya know. Courtney, I starting to...Fish!" -My friend Logan, yelling at Courtney Farris. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 10 06:11:05 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id GAA25581 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 06:01:57 -0500 Received: from netcom12.netcom.com (razor@netcom12.netcom.com [192.100.81.124]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id GAA25574 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 06:01:52 -0500 Received: by netcom12.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id DAA01229; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 03:00:32 -0800 From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Message-Id: <199511101100.DAA01229@netcom12.netcom.com> Subject: Kat rumor?! To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 03:00:31 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 457 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net While online on FurryMUCK the other day, someone told me that the Kats had been picked up by a company in Indiana (I think that's what I was told) and that there are new episodes in the works. My understanding has been that as far as Turner is concerned, SK is history. But I'm not sure what the Tremblay brothers have been up to (Andy, wanna give some insight here? ) -- ====================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ==================== From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 10 10:24:08 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA29845 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 10:17:12 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA29839 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 10:17:08 -0500 Received: from d141.infoserve.net (d141.infoserve.net [199.175.157.141]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA07535 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 07:20:03 -0800 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 07:20:03 -0800 Message-Id: <199511101520.HAA07535@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Kat rumor?! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >While online on FurryMUCK the other day, someone told me that the Kats >had been picked up by a company in Indiana (I think that's what I was >told) and that there are new episodes in the works. > >My understanding has been that as far as Turner is concerned, SK is >history. But I'm not sure what the Tremblay brothers have been up to >(Andy, wanna give some insight here? ) As far as Turner is concerned, Kats *is* history. Tremblay Bros. would've mentioned any kind of sale/pickup by a third party when I spoke to them last, but there was no such mention. Since I can't think of anything headquartered in Indiana that falls within the realm of an entertainment giant, I would guess that the FurryMUCK denizen simply noted that some local independent station had begun airing the series. Did you get a name from the furry? I've got the rack all warmed up and Igor on overtime... _____________________________________________________________ "Sorry for staring...it's just that you looked so much like the 'Cheshire Cat' for a minute there, and I was rather hoping bits of you would begin to disappear.." (--Me) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 10 10:59:09 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA00267 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 10:36:29 -0500 Received: from dialup.oar.net (dialup.oar.net [131.187.1.130]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA00260 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 10:36:23 -0500 Received: from sv1.gentire.com for lynn@gentire.com by dialup.oar.net (8.6.10/931123.1402) id KAA24724; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 10:34:35 -0500 Received: from sv6.gentire.com by sv1.gentire.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12848; Fri, 10 Nov 95 09:36:00 CST Date: Fri, 10 Nov 95 09:36:00 CST From: lynn@gentire.com (Ian Lynn) Message-Id: <9511101536.AA12848@sv1.gentire.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Kat rumor?! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Andy sez- As far as Turner is concerned, Kats *is* history. Tremblay Bros. would've mentioned any kind of sale/pickup by a third party when I spoke to them last, but there was no such mention. Since I can't think of anything headquartered in Indiana that falls within the realm of an entertainment giant, I would guess that the FurryMUCK denizen simply noted that some local independent station had begun airing the series. Did you get a name from the furry? I've got the rack all warmed up and Igor on overtime... I would unfortuantely have to second this guess. Being from Indiana and all, I don't recall there being anything in the state that would handle an animated series/production/etc. Unless there is something in the upper part of the state that they've been keeping secret, I have to guess that someone on the MUCK made an error. Ian (former Hoosier, home of John Mellencamp, Bobby Knight, and T-Bone and Razor(?)) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 10 16:04:07 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA07870 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:43:03 -0500 Received: from indy.net (root@indynet.indy.net [199.3.65.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA07862 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:42:57 -0500 Received: from indy1.indy.net by indy.net with SMTP id AA26237 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:41:10 -0500 Received: by indy1.indy.net (8.6.12/Damon-0.1) id PAA20039; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:42:31 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:42:30 -0500 (EST) From: William Fields Subject: Re: Kat rumor?! To: kats@bort.mv.net In-Reply-To: <9511101536.AA12848@sv1.gentire.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > I would unfortuantely have to second this guess. Being from Indiana and all, > I don't recall there being anything in the state that would handle an animated > series/production/etc. Unless there is something in the upper part of the state > that they've been keeping secret, I have to guess that someone on the MUCK made an > error. > > Ian (former Hoosier, home of John Mellencamp, Bobby Knight, and T-Bone and Razor(?)) > Actually, a small animation company did start here in Indiana. I don't recall the name of the company though, and I never bothered to check out any of the stuff they do. I don't even know if they're still around. Anyway, just thought I'd mention that. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 10 20:24:26 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA14625 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 20:11:42 -0500 Received: from ernie.beta.delphi.com (root@ernie-fore.beta.delphi.com [199.93.12.36]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA14620 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 20:11:38 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (slip110-106.bb.delphi.com [206.15.110.106]) by ernie.beta.delphi.com (8.6.11/Delphi Beta SMTP GW) with SMTP id UAA20142 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 20:11:36 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 20:11:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199511110111.UAA20142@ernie.beta.delphi.com> X-Sender: matt_w@pop.beta.delphi.com X-Mailer: Windows Delphi Mail Version 2.1.1b5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: MATT WEBER Subject: IRC?? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Just curious.. Are we still doing an IRC anytime soon? Apparently, the server Art was using is no longer accepting "visitors". Anyone planning anything? --------------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us play: matt_w@beta.delphi.com NOTE: This area under construction. Watch for falling anvils. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 10 20:38:55 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA14562 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 20:08:43 -0500 Received: from ernie.beta.delphi.com (root@ernie-fore.beta.delphi.com [199.93.12.36]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA14557 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 20:08:41 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (slip110-106.bb.delphi.com [206.15.110.106]) by ernie.beta.delphi.com (8.6.11/Delphi Beta SMTP GW) with SMTP id UAA19469 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 20:08:38 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 20:08:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199511110108.UAA19469@ernie.beta.delphi.com> X-Sender: matt_w@pop.beta.delphi.com X-Mailer: Windows Delphi Mail Version 2.1.1b5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: MATT WEBER Subject: Re: More SK figurine sightings... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >While in Hawaii on vacation last week (well, I was there for a couple >of weeks, but who's counting? ;-), I stopped by a Kay-Bee Toy Store >and saw a few SK action figures there. HAWAII??!?! And you didn't even ask me if I wanted to go! Anyways, I also saw some figures available in Kay-Bee here in MI. Not very many, though. I think there was only 1 Dr. Viper and 2 T-Bone figures. But they also carry the hand-held electronic games of which there are 2 versions. --------------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us play: matt_w@beta.delphi.com NOTE: This area under construction. Watch for falling anvils. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 10 20:55:15 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA14821 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 20:23:23 -0500 Received: from bert.beta.delphi.com (root@bert-fore.beta.delphi.com [199.93.12.35]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA14815 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 20:23:21 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (slip110-106.bb.delphi.com [206.15.110.106]) by bert.beta.delphi.com (8.6.11/Delphi Beta SMTP GW) with SMTP id UAA09264 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 20:23:18 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 20:23:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199511110123.UAA09264@bert.beta.delphi.com> X-Sender: matt_w@pop.beta.delphi.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Delphi Mail Version 2.1.1b5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: MATT WEBER Subject: George of the Jungle? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I was watching SK today (11/10 - The Giant Bacteria) and noticed something strange. Right at the beginning when TB & R were flying over MegaKat bay, there was an elephant sticking about half-way out from the right-hand side of screen. It started walking forward, and I thought I caught George (from George of the Jungle) on the elephant. Then it looked like the animation reversed and it disappeared off the right side of the screen. Is TCN running some kind of contest or something? --------------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us play: matt_w@beta.delphi.com NOTE: This area under construction. Watch for falling anvils. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 10 21:10:24 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA16029 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 21:02:57 -0500 Received: from ernie.beta.delphi.com (root@ernie-fore.beta.delphi.com [199.93.12.36]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA16022 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 21:02:54 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (slip110-106.bb.delphi.com [206.15.110.106]) by ernie.beta.delphi.com (8.6.11/Delphi Beta SMTP GW) with SMTP id VAA23757 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 21:02:51 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 21:02:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199511110202.VAA23757@ernie.beta.delphi.com> X-Sender: matt_w@pop.beta.delphi.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Delphi Mail Version 2.1.1b5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: MATT WEBER Subject: New place for discussion! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net While surfing the web, I came across something of interest. Check out http://www.scifi.com Click on the B-Board icon, then on #6-Anime/Cartoons. If you look, you'll find articles on SWAT Kats! I think you may be able to go directly to http://www.scifi.com/cgi-bin/rbox/articles.pl?1&6&68 but I'm not sure if that'll work. You do have to register with them before posting anything. --------------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us play: matt_w@beta.delphi.com NOTE: This area under construction. Watch for falling anvils. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Nov 11 04:22:41 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id EAA24276 for kats-ll; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 04:09:08 -0500 Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (razor@netcom9.netcom.com [192.100.81.119]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id EAA24271 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 04:09:05 -0500 Received: by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id BAA07943; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 01:07:15 -0800 From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Message-Id: <199511110907.BAA07943@netcom9.netcom.com> Subject: Re: TCN and other Kat stuff... To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 01:07:15 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1627 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > From: MATT WEBER > Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 20:23:18 -0500 > Subject: George of the Jungle? > > I was watching SK today (11/10 - The Giant Bacteria) and noticed something > strange. Right at the beginning when TB & R were flying over MegaKat bay, > there was an elephant sticking about half-way out from the right-hand side > of screen. It started walking forward, and I thought I caught George (from > George of the Jungle) on the elephant. Then it looked like the animation > reversed and it disappeared off the right side of the screen. Is TCN > running some kind of contest or something? Bingo! TCN's been running commercials about this stuff, actually. Thing is, this'll tend to screw up anyone who's trying to get the SK episodes on tape because it's not just a video, but also audio overlay (there's cheering or something while the main program's sound is diminished). I remember having a similar problem while trying to tape some Disney TV Animation episodes -- the kids' club had a similar contest which ran a banner at the bottom of the screen during some of the episodes; and the episodes they chose happened to be some first-run ones, too. As far as the person who mentioned the rumored new SK episodes, I unfortunately don't remember who it was that told me. I do remember that they mentioned something about another episode involving the SK's evil doubles and/or something about the Pastmaster (no log, so no details, unfortunately -- 'scuse me a minute while I go whack myself over the head)... -- ====================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ==================== From owner-kats@bort Sat Nov 11 08:36:09 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA26600 for kats-ll; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 08:34:15 -0500 Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (razor@[192.100.81.119]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA26595 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 08:34:12 -0500 Received: by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id FAA21496; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 05:32:52 -0800 From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Message-Id: <199511111332.FAA21496@netcom9.netcom.com> Subject: copyright warning To: kats@lists.mv.net Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 05:32:51 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 902 Sender: owner-kats@bort Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort I just received some email yesterday about possible litigation by Warner Bros. over an 'unauthorized' web page. The author of the original letter had requested, apparently, that it be distributed as far as possible to other lists, nets, etc. that may be concerned. My impression of the letter (and I'll admit that I just skimmed it) is that it said that WB would take any steps necessary to protect its copyrights, including having its (unauthorized) web page discontinued. I won't reprint the letter to the list as it is very much off-topic, but I *will* forward the letter itself to anyone upon request. Now before any of you on the list start to panic, keep in mind that this is NOT for the Kats themselves, but if WB does decide to push through with this suit, then it could set a precedent for other companies. -- ====================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ==================== From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Nov 11 18:24:49 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA03955 for kats-ll; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 18:16:34 -0500 Received: from gxl.woodtech.com (gxl.woodtech.com [204.248.87.4]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA03950 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 18:16:32 -0500 Received: (from clell@localhost) by gxl.woodtech.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA09818; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 18:26:21 -0600 Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 18:26:18 -0600 (CST) From: "Clell A. Harmon" To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: George of the Jungle? In-Reply-To: <199511110123.UAA09264@bert.beta.delphi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Fri, 10 Nov 1995, MATT WEBER wrote: > I was watching SK today (11/10 - The Giant Bacteria) and noticed something > strange. Right at the beginning when TB & R were flying over MegaKat bay, > there was an elephant sticking about half-way out from the right-hand side > of screen. It started walking forward, and I thought I caught George (from > George of the Jungle) on the elephant. Then it looked like the animation > reversed and it disappeared off the right side of the screen. Is TCN > running some kind of contest or something? Cartoon Network is running a contest using such things.... From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Nov 11 21:24:45 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA05559 for kats-ll; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 21:18:43 -0500 Received: from eri.erinet.com (root@eri.erinet.com [198.6.245.100]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA05554 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 21:18:41 -0500 Received: from Default by eri.erinet.com (8.6.12/EriNet) id VAA26850; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 21:16:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199511120216.VAA26850@eri.erinet.com> X-Sender: wakko@mail.erinet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 21:21:56 -0500 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: wakko@erinet.com (Paul Gunton) Subject: Re: TCN and other Kat stuff... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >As far as the person who mentioned the rumored new SK episodes, I >unfortunately don't remember who it was that told me. I do remember >that they mentioned something about another episode involving the SK's >evil doubles and/or something about the Pastmaster (no log, so no >details, unfortunately -- 'scuse me a minute while I go whack myself >over the head)... > >-- >====================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ==================== > > I've seen this episode. It's a very interesting episode. Where the SwatKats actually team up with Faral. Miss Briggs was working with DarkKat to be the new mayor. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Nov 12 13:42:16 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA16415 for kats-ll; Sun, 12 Nov 1995 13:38:38 -0500 Received: from leo.nmc.edu (leo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.239]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA16410 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 1995 13:38:27 -0500 Received: by leo.nmc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA04806; Sun, 12 Nov 1995 13:40:07 -0500 Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 13:40:05 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: More SK figurine sightings... In-Reply-To: <199511110108.UAA19469@ernie.beta.delphi.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Where in MI? I must know!!!! I live in MI, and I can't find any!!!!!!!!!!!On Fri, 10 Nov 1995, MATT WEBER wrote: > >While in Hawaii on vacation last week (well, I was there for a couple > >of weeks, but who's counting? ;-), I stopped by a Kay-Bee Toy Store > >and saw a few SK action figures there. > > HAWAII??!?! And you didn't even ask me if I wanted to go! > > Anyways, I also saw some figures available in Kay-Bee here in MI. Not very > many, though. I think there was only 1 Dr. Viper and 2 T-Bone figures. But > they also carry the hand-held electronic games of which there are 2 versions. > --------------------------------------------------------------- > work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us play: matt_w@beta.delphi.com > NOTE: This area under construction. Watch for falling anvils. > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Nov 12 15:17:36 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA17747 for kats-ll; Sun, 12 Nov 1995 14:58:16 -0500 Received: from bert.beta.delphi.com (root@bert-fore.beta.delphi.com [199.93.12.35]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA17742 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 1995 14:58:14 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (slip109-195.bb.delphi.com [206.15.109.195]) by bert.beta.delphi.com (8.6.11/Delphi Beta SMTP GW) with SMTP id OAA23700 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 1995 14:57:58 -0500 Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 14:57:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199511121957.OAA23700@bert.beta.delphi.com> X-Sender: matt_w@pop.beta.delphi.com X-Mailer: Windows Delphi Mail Version 2.1.1b5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: MATT WEBER Subject: Re: More SK figurine sightings... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Where in MI? I must know!!!! I live in MI, and I can't find >any!!!!!!!!!!! I'm in SE Lower Michigan area. --------------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us play: matt_w@beta.delphi.com NOTE: This area under construction. Watch for falling anvils. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Nov 13 00:26:15 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA25180 for kats-ll; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 00:14:34 -0500 Received: from smtp1.interramp.com (smtp1.interramp.com [38.8.45.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA25174 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 00:14:32 -0500 Received: from us010700 by smtp1.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id AAA08371; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 00:12:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199511130512.AAA08371@smtp1.interramp.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Matthew Milam" To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 23:14:04 +0000 Subject: Listen people... Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.20) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net This can't be the end of the Swat Kats.....There's just got to be a way to get them on the air. They renewed Exosquad, They renewed Star Trek. So what's wrong with a-not-so-hyped show like Swat Kats. Somebody out there in tvland please answer me.. Matthew __________________________________________________________ Attn: Swat Kats: The Radical Squardon fans. Please help renew this well-like animated series. To those who know about the show and are in any tv studio please subscribe to our mailing list by sending a message to majordomo@lists.mv.net and put in the body of the message "subscribe kats" and you well be helping a desperate show see The light. Matmilam (Swat Kats fan). E-mail me if you don't know what i'm talking about ___________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Nov 13 16:11:40 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA06514 for kats-ll; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 15:44:47 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA06509 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 15:44:42 -0500 Received: from d146.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA12034 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 12:49:43 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 12:49:43 -0800 Message-Id: <199511132049.MAA12034@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: TCN and other Kat stuff... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>As far as the person who mentioned the rumored new SK episodes, I >>unfortunately don't remember who it was that told me. I do remember >>that they mentioned something about another episode involving the SK's >>evil doubles and/or something about the Pastmaster (no log, so no >>details, unfortunately -- 'scuse me a minute while I go whack myself >>over the head)... > Wakko wrote (Hithere..fellow a.t.a. 'er!) >I've seen this episode. It's a very interesting episode. Where the SwatKats >actually team up with Faral. Miss Briggs was working with DarkKat to be the >new mayor. This is one of the eps that cries out for a sequel - the other being "The Ghost Pilot". A couple of folks I know are working on fanfic efforts along the lines of a sequel, but none have gone beyond the first page yet evidently. That's the problem when you have a life, I guess. This ep had similar themes to "opposite universe" stuff that some of us have seen with the original Trek eps and "NegaDuck" or whatever...but for whatever reason, not all the good 'n' evil alignments were changed. Feral, aside from being a bit more tight-assed, wasn't really "evil" to speak of - and Felina seems pretty much the same Kat she is on regular days at the office. The idea I had for a sequel was to have the Kat guys wake up as usual, but find themselves in Nega-Kat City as opposed to their usual reality. The plot would move on from there with the Kat-guys trying to discover how this happened, and who's responsible - perhaps even allying themselves with one of the villains who finds him/herself in a similar state of confusion. I think it'd work. The ep's called "Dark Side of the SwatKats" for those who haven't seen it, and the art (especially the BG work and the drawings of the guys) is great. Some of us already know from earlier, but check out how "Evil" Razor and T-Bone haven't shaved (another round of "furgonomics" anyone?) but our heroes have. Also check out when Razor operates the TurboKat's weaps panel in either Turbokat: Evil Razor has his claws out as a matter of course, but our Razor keeps them retracted until they're necessary. It's a great comment on the motivations between our Kats and their opposing numbers. _____________________________________________________________ "Sorry for staring...it's just that you looked so much like the 'Cheshire Cat' for a minute there, and I was rather hoping bits of you would begin to disappear.." (--Me) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Nov 13 16:24:34 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA06764 for kats-ll; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 15:50:09 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA06759 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 15:50:05 -0500 Received: from d146.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA12357 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 12:55:02 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 12:55:02 -0800 Message-Id: <199511132055.MAA12357@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Listen people... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >This can't be the end of the Swat Kats.....There's just got to be a >way to get them on the air. They renewed Exosquad, They renewed Star >Trek. So what's wrong with a-not-so-hyped show like Swat Kats. > >Somebody out there in tvland please answer me.. > >Matthew Heh. Um..._not_ getting a response from toonnet might end up being a "Good Idea" after all. I'd encourage all of us to send them another message about the the 'Kats being canned off of TBS - seems a lot of folks are looking for mid-season replacements right about now (November Sweeps period), and Turner has nothing going for them at the moment whatsoever. "I love it when a plan comes together..." (The A-Team's "Hannibal") _____________________________________________________________ "Sorry for staring...it's just that you looked so much like the 'Cheshire Cat' for a minute there, and I was rather hoping bits of you would begin to disappear.." (--Me) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Nov 13 16:34:58 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA06776 for kats-ll; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 15:51:00 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA06771 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 15:50:56 -0500 Received: from d146.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA11104 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 12:37:40 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 12:37:40 -0800 Message-Id: <199511132037.MAA11104@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: TCN and other Kat stuff... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Bingo! >TCN's been running commercials about this stuff, actually. Thing is, >this'll tend to screw up anyone who's trying to get the SK episodes >on tape because it's not just a video, but also audio overlay (there's >cheering or something while the main program's sound is diminished). Yeah, YTV's been doing this for years too...extremely annoying for some of us who want a library of shows without releasing the moths from our collective wallets. >As far as the person who mentioned the rumored new SK episodes, I >unfortunately don't remember who it was that told me. I do remember >that they mentioned something about another episode involving the SK's >evil doubles and/or something about the Pastmaster (no log, so no >details, unfortunately -- 'scuse me a minute while I go whack myself >over the head)... Again, a development with Kats that the Tremblays don't know about is _extremely_ unlikley, and if such a thing was to occur with their knowledge, they'd call one of us with instructions to make it available to list-members at least, and perhaps the newsgroups as well. What I _do_ find interesting is that this particular MUCK-rumour has details - rather uncommon for fan-rumours on such things. Later. _____________________________________________________________ "Sorry for staring...it's just that you looked so much like the 'Cheshire Cat' for a minute there, and I was rather hoping bits of you would begin to disappear.." (--Me) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Nov 14 18:34:09 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA29789 for kats-ll; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:05:46 -0500 Received: from leo.nmc.edu (leo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.239]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA29783 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:05:39 -0500 Received: by leo.nmc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA24165; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:07:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:07:21 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: SK sound bites Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I have been recording some SK sound bites and will be uploading them to rat. They are recorded in WAV format at 16-bits, 44.1Khz Mono If anyone has a sound card that can't play that format, please tell me and I will lower the format. I'd like to see how many people can guess which eps. all the bites came from. So far, all I have is stuff from the "Ci-Kat-A" but I'm planning on doing all eps. A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 15 09:06:43 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA08222 for kats-ll; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 09:01:45 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA08217 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 09:01:42 -0500 Received: from d140.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA25764 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 06:07:52 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 06:07:52 -0800 Message-Id: <199511151407.GAA25764@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SwatKats Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Wow. Check this out, gang...I must've pushed the right buttons or some junk. (Man, this has been a weird week....) >From: ToonNet@aol.com >Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 13:54:06 -0500 >To: chance@unix.infoserve.net >Subject: Re: SwatKats > >As a personal fan of Swat Kats, I have vowed to discover the real reasons >behind the cancellation of Swat Kats: The Radical Squadron. I have been >contacting people throughout Turner, looking for an answer. As soon as I get >one, I will send you the answer, with knowledge that you will spread the word >for me. I do know that HB is currently setting aside funds for the World >Premiere Toon program and the new Jonny Quest series. Apparently communcation >between HB and Cartoon Network needs to be strengthened - so we can provide >you and your friends with clearer information. > >We do listen to our viewers response - one of the reasons why Dexter's Lab >will be a short series in the Spring, and for the creation of second episodes >for Jonny Bravo and the Powerpuff Girls. I am responsible for compiling all >viewer e-mail and distributing it amongst the various departments at Cartoon >Network. The insight it provides is extremely valuable to the network. Thanks >for taking the time to write to us, and please feel secure that I am >searching for the answer. > >Stay tooned! >Demetrios Lambros >Cartoon Network Online Representative. > > _____________________________________________________________ "Sorry for staring...it's just that you looked so much like the 'Cheshire Cat' for a minute there, and I was rather hoping bits of you would begin to disappear.." (--Me) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 15 09:22:58 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA08140 for kats-ll; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:57:26 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA08135 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:57:23 -0500 Received: from d140.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA25597 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 06:03:25 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 06:03:25 -0800 Message-Id: <199511151403.GAA25597@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Animato! article cont'd (aka "Where's my OCR software when I need it?") Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net ***There have been a number of parts prior to this one. If anyone wants the earlier portions of this thing (a "must have" for every Kat fan), feel free to e-mail and I'll send the missing parts via e-mail (I don't bite - unless you're standing in my supper dish...) 6. BRIDE OF THE PASTMASTER Airdates: October 16/17, 1993 Written by Glenn Leopold (who's doing "Fantastic Four" eps as we speak...Ed.) Caught in one of the Pastmaster's time vortexes, the SWAT Kats are drawn back into the Dark Ages. They find the wretched warlock invading "Megalith City" with an army of magical monsters, threatening to destroy the town unless its leader - Queen Callista, Callie Briggs lookalike ancestor - agrees to marry him. And that's not the only romantic complication: when Callista sees Razor pull a certain sword from a certain stone, she falls for him, causing T-Bone to become jealous. This is a fun episode that puts the SWAT Kats in unfamiliar territory, both physically and emotionally - this is the first time either of them has a requited love interest. Queen Callista is as courageous, intelligent and likable as her present day descendant. (Tress MacNeille's excellent vocal performance, subtly different from her Callie Briggs voice, adds a lot to the Queen's appeal). "Bride" also uses a clever framing device: the episode begins and ends with the SWAT Kats in mid-battle against two worm-like sea monsters who are attacking oil tankers. A- 7. NIGHT OF THE DARK KAT Airdates: October 23/24, 1993 Written by David Ehrman Dark Kat enlists Hard Drive to help him destroy both the SWAT Kats and their reputation; aftter the villains lure the pilots into a conveyor belt death trap, Hard Drive uses the stolen TurboKat to pose as the SWAT Kats and frame them as criminals. Good points: 1. Mook's animation is well done. 2. Callie has a strong role that tests both her courage and her trust in the SWAT Kats; she even gets to save their lives for a change. Bad points: 1. The cliched "make the heroes look like villains" plot. 2. The whole death trap business. Dark Kat is foolish not to kill the SWAT Kats outright; even Hard Drive sensibly complains to his partner, "I still say you should have let me fry those two!" 3. Hard Drive's introduction is marred by a clumsy, contrived monologue meant to explain the "high-tech low-life's" powers to the audience. The verdict: I've seen worse, but this one needed one or two rewrites. B 8. CHAOS IN CRYSTAL Airdates: October 30/31, 1993 Written by Lance Falk An accident with an experimental diamond mining machine somewho transforms brutal convict Rex Shard (John Vernon) into a crystalline giant whose touch turns people and objects into crystal...and that's only the beginning of his new powers. Yes, it's another "giant monster" episode, but at least this time the creature has a unique gimmick (not to mention a personality). "Crystal" is also the first SWAT Kats set totally outside Megakat City - most of the desperate battle between Shard and the two fighter pilots takes place in the desert. Not a classic, but a decent way to kill a half hour. B Appearances: The mining device's inventor is one Dr. Greenbox ("Terminator 2's" Robert Patrick), who returns in the second season's "Unlikely Alloys". Musings: Warden Cyrus Meese (Jim Cummings), whose greedy exploitation of his prisoners causes Shard's accident in the first place, is knocked onto his office floor and shattered after he's "crystallized" (which Falk intended as "poetic justice"). As the episode ends, every location Shard turned to crystal is shown changing back to normal - except the warden's office. No prizes for guessing why. Lance Falk: Falk planned to make Rex Shard another recurring SWAT Kats villain - backed up with two concepts that had never been used before. (ed. note - see the "Cold War" script premise on the ftp site "rat.org" for an example of what Falk intended for Shard). "What makes [Shard] a villain is his mean and criminal mind, and after the crystal incident, he's so bent on getting the heroes back that he'll go to any length to get some kind of edge, some kind of weapon or power. What I wanted to do was to bring him back three, four, or five times, and each time he came back [he'd] have a different power. He'd escape from prison and dive into an experimental energy source and [become] a big fire demon...or a snow guy that freezes the city over. I would have done something more original than those things I mentioned; I thought the crystal guy was an original idea, and I want to come up with stuff just that cool. The other thing was, not only did [Shard] keep coming back with different powers, but every time out there'd be a price to pay the next time he came back. He'd lose an eye, so from then on when you saw the guy he had an eyepatch. And each time he comes back, he's a little more beat up. He's become a fanatic, and he's lost all sight of everything but revenge, and it's really destroying him." 9. THE GHOST PILOT Airdates: November 6/7, 1993 Written by Von Williams The vengeful spirit of The Red Lynx (Mark Hamill), an enemy air ace from "Megawar II", returns from his watery grave to kill the descendant of the flier who put him there, The Blue Manx. Said descendant happens to be - you guessed it - Mayor Manx, the flier's great grandson. Can even the SWAT Kats shoot down "the most evil pilot in history"? And can Mayor Manx overcome his own cowardice - even to save his own life? Manx gets his biggest role of the entire series here, but it's the Red Lynx who makes this episode a classic. The ghost pilot, with his grotesque character design and aura of creepiness, is one of the SWAT Kats best one-shot villains, and he inspires the animators to create several wonderfully eerie images throughout the episode. A Appearances: The ever-helpful Dr. Sinian discovers that only a relative of the Blue Manx (such as the mayor) can destroy the Red Lynx. 10. METAL URGENCY Airdates: November 13/14, 1993 Written by Lance Falk and Eric Clark The Metallikats escape from their creator Professor Hackle, who intends to "program out all [their] criminal tendencies." In search of their armoured hovercraft, the Metallikat Express, Mac and Molly wind up at the salvage yard near Jake and Chance's Garage - where they discover the SWAT Kats' headquarters! In a unique action scene, Clawson and Furlong, still in their civvies, must defend their own base from the robot gangsters. The SWAT Kats destroy the Metallikats' bodies, but the tin-plated thugs survive as two disembodied heads crawling around on spider-like legs, and they soon continue their rampage by taking over two huge space exploration robots. There's mayhem aplenty in this episode, but there's also some of SWAT Kats' best dialogue, as well as two character-driven scenes involving Commander Feral. First, Feral and Callie Briggs finally have The Big Argument over the commander's hatred of the SWAT Kats. Then Feral redeems himself at the end of the episode; in a powerful scene, he chooses his principles over a chance to capture his hated rivals. All this and a cameo by Hard Drive - who could ask for anything more? A In-Jokes: 1. Early in the episode, Professor Hackle and the Metallikats watch the SWAT Kats capture Hard Drive on live TV, making a fool of Feral (as usual). HACKLE: "Such senseless violence. It's all so disheartening." MAC: "Wow, Molly! That Feral hates the SWAT Kats even more than we do!" MOLLY: "Why shouldn't he, Mac? Those fighter jocks make him look stupid at least once a week!" 2. Hackle plans to turn the de-criminalized Metallikats into servants - Mac, a chauffeur, Molly, a housekeeper. He even buys uniforms which the Manges destroy when they escape his lab. However, Hackle must have had two spare uniforms, because they're shown in the second season's "Deadly Pyramid". Appearances: Burke & Murray harass Jake & Chance yet again while the Metallikats watch (Mac refers to the four as "duelling lowlifes". He should talk!). "Star Wars" fan Lance Falk says, "Comedy characters aren't my forte. I put [Burke & Murray] in there just so I could meet Mark Hamill." (ed. note - Lance Falk meant that placing strictly comedic characters within the action-adventure format wasn't "his forte". He now works art-directing on Warner's "Animaniacs", and has proven that comedy is _indeed_ his "forte"!) Lance Falk: "I wanted to do a big, blowout episode, and I wanted to do something with Feral. I thought Feral was kind of one-dimensional." Falk expanded on Feral's personality in in "Metal Urgency" 's finale, where the Commander refuses the defeated Metallikats' offer to exchange the SWAT Kats' secret identities for their freedom. "I wanted to show that jerk though he may be, he's got a code - he has a line that he won't cross, and that line is he doesn't deal with scum. He doesn't need to know anything bad enough to owe the bad guy. That moment is my favourite moment in the whole series, and I think it's my best character writing for the show. I know it's a kids' cartoon, but that scene was really important to me, and all the other stuff was just a device to lead to the last scene." _____________________________________________________________ "Sorry for staring...it's just that you looked so much like the 'Cheshire Cat' for a minute there, and I was rather hoping bits of you would begin to disappear.." (--Me) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 15 10:07:24 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA08717 for kats-ll; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 09:49:33 -0500 Received: from dialup.oar.net (dialup.oar.net [131.187.1.130]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA08712 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 09:49:30 -0500 Received: from sv1.gentire.com for lynn@gentire.com by dialup.oar.net (8.6.10/931123.1402) id JAA05796; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 09:47:46 -0500 Received: from sv6.gentire.com by sv1.gentire.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14022; Wed, 15 Nov 95 08:49:12 CST Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 08:49:12 CST From: lynn@gentire.com (Ian Lynn) Message-Id: <9511151449.AA14022@sv1.gentire.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: SwatKats Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Stay tooned! >Demetrios Lambros >Cartoon Network Online Representative. > Seems to me it would be wise to direct an "in care of" directly to this gentleman, if, which he seems to be, on the up and up. This is far and away the most "responsive" response I have seen from toonnet, including somewhere in the range of 8-10 from me. Definitely this was better than the typical one line "We'll forward this and get back to you". We may have another insider on our side, he may be at the bottom, but he's alot closer than most, we should really keep our claws in him. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 15 12:53:23 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA11053 for kats-ll; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:45:07 -0500 Received: from maroon.tc.umn.edu (root@maroon.tc.umn.edu [128.101.118.21]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA11048 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:45:01 -0500 Received: by maroon.tc.umn.edu; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:44:05 -0600 Message-Id: <30aa26e52eda002@maroon.tc.umn.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:44:05 -0600 From: Timothy D Fay To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Rat Gets The Bird Content-Length: 272 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hey, I just heard that rat.org was forced to take down all of its Sega fan art after Sega's lawyers sent a nastygram to the site admin. The gorey details are in misc.news.internet.discuss. I mention this because rat.org is also site of a lot of SWAT KATS stuff. -Tim From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 15 14:08:23 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA11907 for kats-ll; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:01:35 -0500 Received: from granite.mv.net (rat@granite.mv.net [199.125.70.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA11900 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:01:34 -0500 Received: by granite.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA16121; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:01:33 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:01:33 -0500 (EST) From: Ratman To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Rat Gets The Bird In-Reply-To: <30aa26e52eda002@maroon.tc.umn.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Timothy D Fay wrote: > Hey, I just heard that rat.org was forced to take down all of its Sega > fan art after Sega's lawyers sent a nastygram to the site admin. The > gorey details are in misc.news.internet.discuss. The only post I saw was from Quozl, and he wrote he was in email contact with me. The truth is he offered his help if I needed any legal backup, and I said if I needed it, I'd take him up on it. > I mention this because rat.org is also site of a lot of SWAT KATS stuff. > > -Tim Here's what really happened. A woman from Sega's legal department (not a lawyer) called me on the phone and asked me nicely to take down the x-rated Sonic fan art I had. I decided it was best not to get on Sega's bad side, and I understood how it's not good for Sega's image to have this artwork floating around, so I cooperated and took them all down. I asked her to follow up with an email, which she did and I posted it to http://rat.org/sonic/noperv.html As far as the normal fan artwork and fan fiction, nobody seems to have a problem with that. That person from Sega did ask me to get permission for the other stuff, which I replied "who can I ask?", and they never got back to me. So as far as I'm concerned, I'll keep the stuff on the site unless they have a problem. Nobody has contacted me regarding the dirty Kats art, and if they do, I'll take those down as well. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- email: rat@rat.org WWW : http://rat.org FTP : ftp://rat.org/pub ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 15 18:07:25 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA14938 for kats-ll; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 18:01:23 -0500 Received: from smtp2.interramp.com (smtp2.interramp.com [38.8.200.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA14933 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 18:01:20 -0500 Received: from us010700 by smtp2.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id SAA14027; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 18:01:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199511152301.SAA14027@smtp2.interramp.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Matthew Milam" To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 17:02:29 +0000 Subject: Re: Rat Gets The Bird Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.20) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Listen up..... I'm getting real tried of all this hide-the-x-rated stuff...what harm is it going to do to watch your favorite hero's (Other than a few i wish never did) get into to some real loving. I feel like every company is at the mercy of the parents in this coutry. I'll admit some things should never be x-rated but come on....it's was evident the Swat Kats wanted Caille, Even T-Bone wanted Turmoil. But when Sonic and Sally do it noooooooooo, Sega has to put the damn g-rated only crap on him. Which means he'll be a g-rated idiot. In my own opinon..... Matthew __________________________________________________________ Attn: Swat Kats: The Radical Squardon fans. Please help renew this well-like animated series. To those who know about the show and are in any tv studio please subscribe to our mailing list by sending a message to majordomo@lists.mv.net and put in the body of the message "subscribe kats" and you well be helping a desperate show see The light. Matmilam (Swat Kats fan). E-mail me if you don't know what i'm talking about ___________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 15 18:38:01 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA15204 for kats-ll; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 18:30:16 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA15199 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 18:30:13 -0500 Received: from net-1-181.austin.eden.com (net-1-181.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.181]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.1.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id RAA18818 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 17:30:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 17:30:08 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199511152330.RAA18818@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Rilly wierd idea for a story by a friend X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net 'Lo all. I've been busy lately (school) and haven't had much time for writing. (sigh). Well, like the subject of this message, my friend Courtney gave me this idea: ________________________________________________________________________________ Courtney: "You should make like, a vampire bite Razor and like, make it a two-parter!" Me: "What's gonna happen to T-Bone?" Courtney: "He could like, try to find a cure!!" ________________________________________________________________________________ (Me and Courtney both like SK, Sonic, and...Vampire Hunter D. ;) ) I've got two going already, but unless someone else offers to write something like that, or doesn't like it, I can write. But it WILL take some time. (I've got "Odd Circumstances", "Day and Night", for SK, "Celeste" for Sonic, and to top it all off, I got a big ole project on folklore at school to do.) Sheesh. OK, I'm done now. tell me what you think of this idea. I won't be hurt, cause it ain't MY idea, it was Courtney's. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 15 21:10:23 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA17096 for kats-ll; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 21:01:34 -0500 Received: from leo.nmc.edu (leo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.239]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA17091 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 21:01:26 -0500 Received: by leo.nmc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA09539; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 21:03:14 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 21:03:13 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: ToonNet to subcribe to mailing list for Kats Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Is there any way we could get toonnet to join our mailing list? Like put majordomo@bort.mv.net on the CC area, and have the message say: "SUBCRIBE KATS" ? That would strenthen our kat power. A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 15 21:24:03 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA17070 for kats-ll; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 20:59:24 -0500 Received: from leo.nmc.edu (leo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.239]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA17065 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 20:59:13 -0500 Received: by leo.nmc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA09201; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 21:00:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 21:00:55 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Rat Gets The Bird In-Reply-To: <199511152301.SAA14027@smtp2.interramp.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net That calbound.gif or whatever in the SK perv directory, could the author please take out the callie and just have a NORMAL picture of Dr. Viper and his little mushroom monster? That's a great drawing of DR. Viper and I would like to use it to draw without any perv stuff. A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 15 23:05:43 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA18335 for kats-ll; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 22:58:23 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA18328 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 22:58:19 -0500 Received: from d143.infoserve.net (d143.infoserve.net [199.175.157.143]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA06403 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 20:04:42 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 20:04:42 -0800 Message-Id: <199511160404.UAA06403@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SwatKats Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >>Stay tooned! >>Demetrios Lambros >>Cartoon Network Online Representative. >> >Seems to me it would be wise to direct an "in care of" directly to this gentleman, >if, which he seems to be, on the up and up. This is far and away the most "responsive" >response I have seen from toonnet, including somewhere in the range of 8-10 from me. >Definitely this was better than the typical one line "We'll forward this and get back >to you". We may have another insider on our side, he may be at the bottom, but he's >alot closer than most, we should really keep our claws in him. Yes, but the danger with using the guy's name is that others may be viewing the mailbox, and it might end up looking rather negative. I'm not sure if his views on the Kats would be all that popular with his bosses. By all means, write toonnet to voice support for the show and future episodes though - he'll likely use the volume to further his (and our) efforts. _____________________________________________________________ "Sorry for staring...it's just that you looked so much like the 'Cheshire Cat' for a minute there, and I was rather hoping bits of you would begin to disappear.." (--Me) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 15 23:14:36 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA18346 for kats-ll; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 22:58:28 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA18334 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 22:58:22 -0500 Received: from d143.infoserve.net (d143.infoserve.net [199.175.157.143]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA06415 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 20:04:52 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 20:04:52 -0800 Message-Id: <199511160404.UAA06415@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: ToonNet to subcribe to mailing list for Kats Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Is there any way we could get toonnet to join our mailing list? >Like put majordomo@bort.mv.net on the CC area, and have the message say: >"SUBCRIBE KATS" ? That would strenthen our kat power. I have passed on the information should they wish to sub, but I'm not going to do anything unilaterally. Speaking about "strengthening our Kat Power" - um, guys...Christian Tremblay lets me know that precisely one entry has been received for the original Kat art he thought he'd award as a prize to thank us for all our support of the Kats. We've got sixty-three folks on this list, and I would have thought that an offer like this from one of the guys who *created* the show for something like this would be enough inspiration for certain individuals to buy a stamp, and mail off a postcard or even an empty envelope with your return address on the back. Heck, even Ted Turner has more enthusiasm than you guys. Anyway, I personally don't mind looking sheepish in front of the Bros, but I am rather disappointed that folks don't consider the offer worthy of a stamp. (That's about as "heavy" as I get...but it's in earnest). I'll repost the address in the next listmail. _____________________________________________________________ "Sorry for staring...it's just that you looked so much like the 'Cheshire Cat' for a minute there, and I was rather hoping bits of you would begin to disappear.." (--Me) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 15 23:25:46 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA18354 for kats-ll; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 22:58:32 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA18339 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 22:58:26 -0500 Received: from d143.infoserve.net (d143.infoserve.net [199.175.157.143]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA06418 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 20:04:56 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 20:04:56 -0800 Message-Id: <199511160404.UAA06418@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SWATKATS:Free draw for artwork! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net In rec.arts.animation, chance@unix.infoserve.net (Chance) wrote: SWATKATS Internet fans should probably know that in the course of the last year, I've been downloading posts concerning "SWAT Kats: The Radical Squadron" and forwarding them to the guys who originated the characters, Christian and Yvon Tremblay. So far, from the newsgroups, e-mail (with permission, natch) and the Kats mailing list, I've collected over 300 pages of the stuff, all of which has been read by the Brothers Tremblay. Anyway, by way of a big "Thank You!" to all the fans of the show who took the time to voice their support (and, in spite of Turner Entertainment) Christian's decided to hold a random draw for a piece of original "SwatKats" artwork, signed by the Bros, and mounted. All you have to do is send in a postcard to the address given below (one per person, multiple entries bearing the same name will be immediately disqualified) with your name, return address, and phone number - plus whatever comments you may feel like adding. Entries will be recieved starting November 1st, 1995, and the contest cutoff will be December 1st, 1995 - with the draw to be held shortly afterward. Good Luck 'Katfans! Legal Junk: This draw is being held independently of Turner Entertainment, Hanna-Barbera Cartoons Inc., or any wholly or partly owned subsidiary of the Turner Empire. Draw will take place the first week of December from all eligible entries recieved before the cutoff date. Artwork to be awarded is not owned by Turner Entertainment, nor any of its subsidiaries. (I think I'm saying Turner can get stuffed.) Mail your postcard (or an empty envelope with your return address marked clearly on the back) to: SWATKATS CONTEST 15460 Sherman Way #1-310 Van Nuys, CA USA 91406 (Contest open to all SwatKats fans worldwide and the nearby planets. Questions to chance@unix.infoserve.net) -- _____________________________________________________________ "Sorry for staring...it's just that you looked so much like the 'Cheshire Cat' for a minute there, and I was rather hoping bits of you would begin to disappear.." (--Me) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 16 00:50:45 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA19070 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:35:45 -0500 Received: from netcom17.netcom.com (razor@netcom17.netcom.com [192.100.81.130]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA19065 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:35:42 -0500 Received: by netcom17.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id VAA25803; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 21:34:14 -0800 From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Message-Id: <199511160534.VAA25803@netcom17.netcom.com> Subject: How do you think of the wepons? (fwd) To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 21:34:13 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 848 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Here's something I received through email which I believe was based from my web page (look at the URL reference). Thought the list might find it interesting, and it's most certainly on topic. Forwarded message: > From kimbrel@ConnectI.com Tue Nov 14 18:14:21 1995 > Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 20:15:06 -0600 > From: Gary Kimbrell > X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b2 (Windows; I; 32bit) > To: razor@rat.org > Subject: How do you think of the wepons? > X-Url: http://rat.org/razor/ > > -- How do you think of the wepons you use?I would like to think of > those kinds of wepons to.I watch your show every day right when i get > home from school.Would you wright me back,my home adress is 342 Fox > Brair,Hondo , Texas 78861.I love your show!!!!!!!!!!! -- ====================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ==================== From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 16 01:05:50 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA19359 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:56:57 -0500 Received: from ix13.ix.netcom.com (ix13.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.13]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA19354 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:56:54 -0500 Received: from 205.184.172.41 by ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id VAA26193; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 21:55:36 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 21:55:36 -0800 Message-Id: <199511160555.VAA26193@ix13.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: danramos@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Dan Ramos Subject: Re: Rat Gets The Bird Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 05:02 PM 11/15/95 +0000, you wrote: >Listen up..... > >I'm getting real tried of all this hide-the-x-rated stuff...what harm >is it going to do to watch your favorite hero's (Other than a few i >wish never did) get into to some real loving. Bleah! I can't agree... it shouldn't be openly accessible for KIDS and personally.. I wasn't too happy to see them myself. :/ >I feel like every company is at the mercy of the parents in this >coutry. I don't think it's unreasonable for them to complain... although I *DO* think it was unreasonable to say it must be GONE *PERIOD*.. I do believe it should be hidden somewhere or that access should be granted to only the 18+ crowd (don't know what standards the Internet will adopt for this... :P heh) >I'll admit some things should never be x-rated but come on....it's >was evident the Swat Kats wanted Caille, Even T-Bone wanted Turmoil. >But when Sonic and Sally do it noooooooooo, Sega has to put the damn >g-rated only crap on him. Which means he'll be a g-rated idiot. > >In my own opinon..... > >Matthew Bleah! I'm all for losing censorship and all...but let's at least have a little decency about the way we go about it. ...my opinion. :) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 16 01:49:51 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA20045 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 01:38:39 -0500 Received: from you.got.net (you.got.net [205.199.112.9]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA20040 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 01:38:36 -0500 Received: from lsetnor (lsetnor.got.net [205.199.119.206]) by you.got.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA23962 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 22:39:16 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 22:39:16 -0800 Message-Id: <199511160639.WAA23962@you.got.net> X-Sender: lsetnor@mail.got.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: lsetnor@got.net (Leslie Setnor) Subject: Video Game X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hello, I'm new! Funny, I've spent a full year on the Swat Kats Fan Club on Prodigy and didn't even KNOW about this mailing list. Anyway, have you guys already talked about the Swat Kats Video Game for SNES? Does anybody have any codes? (If so, I'll have to rent it again. I can't find it for sale *anywhere* around here.) Karen "Cally" Setnor lsetnor@got.net mcjd61b@prodig.com PS- I put in the address for this list on the BB, so we might get some new members. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 16 02:04:39 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA20091 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 01:41:51 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA20086 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 01:41:48 -0500 Received: from d145.infoserve.net (d145.infoserve.net [199.175.157.145]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA19193 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 22:48:22 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 22:48:22 -0800 Message-Id: <199511160648.WAA19193@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Rat Gets The Bird Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I don't think it's unreasonable for them to complain... although I *DO* >think it was unreasonable to say it must be GONE *PERIOD*.. I do believe it >should be hidden somewhere or that access should be granted to only the 18+ >crowd (don't know what standards the Internet will adopt for this... :P heh) >I'm all for losing censorship and all...but let's at least have a little >decency about the way we go about it. >...my opinion. :) Since this is cropping up all over, here's where I'm at on this regarding Kats stuff (and Animaniacs, for that matter). Personally, I get more out of drawings that leave a little something up to the imagination, but if I come across the more intense stuff, I get more of a chuckle than any grand sense of disgust (well, for the most part anyway). I'm not into the heavily obscene stuff whatsoever - and if there's even the slightest _hint_ of kiddie-porn type junk - the artist had better be a faster runner than I am. Furry-stuff has a built in safeguard against that kind of thing - you can't really draw a parallel to anything in RL without an overactive imagination and way too much time on your hands. There is no way to "restrict" stuff to the over 18's on FTP sites that I'm aware of aside from disallowing anonymous FTP - but that's kind of self-defeating. As far as the naughty Kat-art goes that's resident on rat.org - it's in a directory marked "perv" guys - I don't imagine you'd go there looking for religious tracts, do you? "Common sense" is a far more powerful tool than blanket censorship. Be responsible netizens and tread carefully if you're likely to be offended by stuff - these images don't leap out unbidden from the VGA screen to poison your mind - a lot of work is involved looking for them. If you don't like that kind of thing - don't search for it. We may get _told_ very shortly to ditch the images anyway - as it looks like TWC is on the warpath, and it may extend to H-B properties. That's an educated guess at the moment, but I'd _strongly_ suggest downloading what you will from the directories as soon as you get time just in case. Paranoia has a way of spreading faster than most other diseases. Later. _____________________________________________________________ "Sorry for staring...it's just that you looked so much like the 'Cheshire Cat' for a minute there, and I was rather hoping bits of you would begin to disappear.." (--Me) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 16 05:04:27 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id EAA21504 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 04:54:23 -0500 Received: from bos1h.delphi.com (SYSTEM@bos1h.delphi.com [192.80.63.8]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id EAA21499 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 04:54:21 -0500 From: WKOZIOL@delphi.com Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V5.0-5 #10880) id <01HXP5WWI1GM9IALZS@delphi.com> for kats@bort.mv.net; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 04:53:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 04:53:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: SWATKATS:Free draw for artwork! To: kats@bort.mv.net Message-id: <01HXP5WWI1GO9IALZS@delphi.com> X-VMS-To: IN%"kats@bort.mv.net" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net SWAT Kats Contest Is this just for the artists or are the brothers going to do stuff for the so called non-artists like myself and others as well? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 16 10:09:57 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA24135 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 10:00:40 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA24130 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 10:00:37 -0500 Received: from d140.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA07708 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 07:07:24 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 07:07:24 -0800 Message-Id: <199511161507.HAA07708@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SWATKATS:Free draw for artwork! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >SWAT Kats Contest > >Is this just for the artists or are the brothers going to do stuff for the so >called non-artists like myself and others as well? Guys, it's for everyone who knows how to lick a stamp. You know all those comments we've all been making over the course of a year? I sent them to Christian, lock, stock & barrel - and he's read them all (translating for Yvon, one would assume). This Draw thing is the big "thank you" for the support he's gotten from members of the Katslist, and appreciation for us recognizing a quality program where Turner could not. _____________________________________________________________ "Sorry for staring...it's just that you looked so much like the 'Cheshire Cat' for a minute there, and I was rather hoping bits of you would begin to disappear.." (--Me) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 16 17:47:43 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA29045 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 17:05:10 -0500 Received: from leo.nmc.edu (leo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.239]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA29036 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 17:04:58 -0500 Received: by leo.nmc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA06481; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 17:07:28 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 17:07:27 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: SWATKATS:Free draw for artwork! In-Reply-To: <199511161507.HAA07708@unix.infoserve.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net When chance said that he heard from the bros. that only 1 postcard was recieved, it IS MINE!!!! It has a drawing of t-bone's face on it. A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 16 18:39:19 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA03526 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 18:13:13 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA03521 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 18:13:06 -0500 Received: from net-1-142.austin.eden.com (net-1-142.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.142]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.1.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA28413 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 16:47:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 16:47:37 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199511162247.QAA28413@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: ToonNet to subcribe to mailing list for Kats X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net About the picture: Heck, I WOULD write, but I lost the @#$%^& address. Send it again, and I'll write. Scouts honor! (I'm still officially a Girl Scout so I can say that) :) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 16 19:42:16 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA06894 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:04:32 -0500 Received: from leo.nmc.edu (leo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.239]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA06886 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:04:18 -0500 Received: by leo.nmc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA13946; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:06:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:06:56 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Uploading to rat Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net How do I upload to the /incoming directory? It doesn't say anything there like "Begin your transfer now" or anything. and no, I do not have winsock or anything because my server is text-only. A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 16 19:50:03 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA06847 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:01:52 -0500 Received: from leo.nmc.edu (leo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.239]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA06835 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:01:44 -0500 Received: by leo.nmc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA13823; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:04:22 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:04:22 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Mettallikats , Dr. Viper, and Dark Kat. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net C'mon, all you SK artists out there! Make some Dark Kat, Metallikats, Dr. Viper pictures and upload 'em to rat!!! If I had some pictures so I would KNOW how to draw them well, I'd do it myself. A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 16 19:56:56 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA06875 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:03:22 -0500 Received: from leo.nmc.edu (leo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.239]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA06869 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:03:09 -0500 Received: by leo.nmc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA13892; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:05:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:05:42 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: ToonNet to subcribe to mailing list for Kats In-Reply-To: <199511162247.QAA28413@natashya.eden.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Here ya go, Terra. The address is ToonNet@aol.com On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, Kay Chang wrote: > About the picture: > > Heck, I WOULD write, but I lost the @#$%^& address. Send it again, and I'll > write. Scouts honor! (I'm still officially a Girl Scout so I can say that) :) > > A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 16 20:00:29 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA06781 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:00:03 -0500 Received: from leo.nmc.edu (leo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.239]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA06771 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 18:59:52 -0500 Received: by leo.nmc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA13677; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:02:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:02:24 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: CNN buys disney? Yeah, right! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At school, on of our teachers brought up something about some company buying some other company, and she said that CNN bought disney and that Ted owns it now, but the kids corrected her that it was disney that bought ABC. (Whew! I thought I was going to have to boycott disney now!) I've seen how well of marketing disney has done with it's gargoyles. I hope disney would buy H-B and do the same with SK. I'm not sure about Warner Bros. doing SK. Warner Bros. is best at doing "Eye-Popping, mouth dropping" cartoons. I don't think I want to see T-B or R's eye's pop out when they're surprised! A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 16 20:21:01 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA10391 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:55:38 -0500 Received: from granite.mv.net (rat@granite.mv.net [199.125.70.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA10385 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:55:36 -0500 Received: by granite.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-941101) id TAA08480; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:55:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:55:35 -0500 (EST) From: Ratman To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Uploading to rat In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, ARTHUR JOHN FREDA wrote: > How do I upload to the /incoming directory? Questions of this nature should go to me. Thanks. If you can't remember that, then at least can you remember owner-kats@lists.mv.net ??? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- email: rat@rat.org WWW : http://rat.org FTP : ftp://rat.org/pub ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 16 22:06:36 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA15227 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 21:44:29 -0500 Received: from bos1h.delphi.com (SYSTEM@bos1h.delphi.com [192.80.63.8]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA15222 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 21:44:27 -0500 From: WKOZIOL@delphi.com Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V5.0-5 #10880) id <01HXQ57LDCQO9IAU79@delphi.com> for kats@bort.mv.net; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 21:43:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 21:43:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: SWATKATS:Free draw for artwork! To: kats@bort.mv.net Message-id: <01HXQ57LDMDU9IAU79@delphi.com> X-VMS-To: IN%"kats@bort.mv.net" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net SWAT Kats Contest Could you repeat the address for us idiots that haven't written it down yet? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 16 22:19:46 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA17319 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 21:54:04 -0500 Received: from bos1h.delphi.com (SYSTEM@bos1h.delphi.com [192.80.63.8]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA17307 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 21:54:00 -0500 From: WKOZIOL@delphi.com Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V5.0-5 #10880) id <01HXQ5BH82QU9IAU79@delphi.com> for kats@bort.mv.net; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 21:52:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 21:52:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: CNN buys disney? Yeah, right! To: kats@bort.mv.net Message-id: <01HXQ5BH82QW9IAU79@delphi.com> X-VMS-To: IN%"kats@bort.mv.net" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net You are forgetting one thing about WB and that is they do an incredible job with Batman the animation series. For you hard core toon aholoics out there if you remember Dick Tracey that was also done by WB. I think WB could really improve the kats and make them more animated like the Dick Tracey or Batman toons. They (WB) do have the talent and the equipment that can even rival Disney if they really want to. You got to admit one thing about WB over Disney and that is WB is by far more original in their stories and their full length animations than Disney is. IE: Rover Dangerfield, the animation was good, the story was of course straight Rodney Dangerfield classic stuff but it also had a nice plot to it, and it was an original. WB didn't have to go and blow few hundred thousand dollars to get a story. I can definitly see WB hopefully doing the SWAT Kats cause the sound and everything else will definitly kick tail. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 16 22:34:43 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA18205 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 22:20:08 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA18200 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 22:20:04 -0500 Received: from d140.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA21920 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:27:05 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:27:05 -0800 Message-Id: <199511170327.TAA21920@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: ToonNet to subcribe to mailing list for Kats Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >About the picture: > >Heck, I WOULD write, but I lost the @#$%^& address. Send it again, and I'll >write. Scouts honor! (I'm still officially a Girl Scout so I can say that) :) Again (and it's going in my sig for here and newsgroups), send a postcard or envelope with your name and return address clearly marked on the back to: SWATKATS DRAW 15460 Sherman Way #1-310 Van Nuys, CA USA 91406 Don't delay - send today! (I've _seen_ a lot of the artwork he has kicking around. Wow. Makes you want to go buy a palmtop photocopier and create a whole whack more wall-space...) _____________________________________________________________ "Sorry for staring...it's just that you looked so much like the 'Cheshire Cat' for a minute there, and I was rather hoping bits of you would begin to disappear.." (--Me) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 16 22:40:57 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA18237 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 22:22:17 -0500 Received: from ix12.ix.netcom.com (ix12.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.12]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA18232 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 22:22:15 -0500 Received: from ix-spr-ma1-15.ix.netcom.com by ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id TAA12526; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:22:56 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:22:56 -0800 Message-Id: <199511170322.TAA12526@ix12.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: danramos@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Dan Ramos Subject: Re: Rat Gets The Bird Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 10:48 PM 11/15/95 -0800, you wrote: >There is no way to "restrict" stuff to the over 18's on FTP sites that I'm aware of >aside from disallowing anonymous FTP - but that's kind of self-defeating. As far >as the naughty Kat-art goes that's resident on rat.org - it's in a directory marked >"perv" guys - I don't imagine you'd go there looking for religious tracts, do you? >"Common sense" is a far more powerful tool than blanket censorship. Be responsible >netizens and tread carefully if you're likely to be offended by stuff - these images >don't leap out unbidden from the VGA screen to poison your mind - a lot of work >is involved looking for them. If you don't like that kind of thing - don't search for it. Personally, I'd rather just not bother checkin' 'em out--so that works. But the problem arises when the typical 8 year old on Prodigy happens across RAT.ORG and checks out the perv sections not knowing any better--or perhaps KNOWING better. :P >We may get _told_ very shortly to ditch the images anyway - as it looks like TWC >is on the warpath, and it may extend to H-B properties. That's an educated guess >at the moment, but I'd _strongly_ suggest downloading what you will from the >directories as soon as you get time just in case. Paranoia has a way of spreading >faster than most other diseases. No surprise there. :P heh... surprised? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 16 23:06:55 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA20735 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 22:51:18 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA20730 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 22:51:14 -0500 Received: from d140.infoserve.net (d154.infoserve.net [199.175.157.154]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA24706 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:58:16 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:58:16 -0800 Message-Id: <199511170358.TAA24706@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: CNN buys disney? Yeah, right! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >At school, on of our teachers brought up something about some company >buying some other company, and she said that CNN bought disney and that >Ted owns it now, but the kids corrected her that it was disney that >bought ABC. (Whew! I thought I was going to have to boycott disney now!) Wow. Your teachers need a good teacher. Time-Warner "bought" Turner, and Disney bought Cap Cities (and therefore ABC and DIC). > I've seen how well of marketing disney has done with it's >gargoyles. I hope disney would buy H-B and do the same with SK. I'm not >sure about Warner Bros. doing SK. Warner Bros. is best at doing >"Eye-Popping, mouth dropping" cartoons. I don't think I want to see T-B >or R's eye's pop out when they're surprised! Actually, now that you bring this up - it's what I find amazing about Hanna-Barbera. Look at some of the excellent work on Razor, T-Bone, Callie etc - then try compare it to "Yukky Duck" (or whatever it was called). Eeesh. Tex Avery type stuff works well in some areas (very few, IMO - my favorite directors are Jones, Freleng and McKimson), but nowhere _near_ the Kat guys. There's only one scene in Kats where it looks like the studio didn't quite have a handle on what they were supposed to do, and Razor does this bizarre little "squash and stretch" maneuver which is utterly out of place. (It's in "Katastrophe" during the scene after the Kat guys escape the "bubble" thing and Razor ducks to avoid something or other). Kats art in general is phenomenal - especially the Mook stuff from the second season - and if you rent the tapes available - check out how beautiful the Backgrounds are in a couple of the eps. Damn outstanding, and hard to believe they came from the same studio that's done "Captain Planet" and some of the lousier World Premiere Toons. (Besides, I just can't see "TEEBONE, YOU EEEEEDIOOOTTT!" with the appropriate artwork somehow...) _____________________________________________________________ "Sorry for staring...it's just that you looked so much like the 'Cheshire Cat' for a minute there, and I was rather hoping bits of you would begin to disappear.." (--Me) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 17 00:15:57 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA24061 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 23:57:08 -0500 Received: from occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net (occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net [204.71.75.187]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA24056 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 23:57:05 -0500 Received: from s03-pm01.occ-uky.campus.mci.net (s03-pm01.occ-uky.campus.mci.net [205.219.158.32]) by occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA01409 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 22:56:58 -0600 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 22:56:58 -0600 Message-Id: <199511170456.WAA01409@occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net> X-Sender: mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net (David Minter) Subject: Copyright legality information Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Okay. While the subject has come recently, what is the final word on this subject? I write short stories all the time based on other copyrighted information, and I've done my best to get all the copyright owners at the beginning. However, I'm currently on a SK story, but I don't know how to phrase the copyright? Is it a three way copyright between the Brothers Tremblay, HB, and Turner or do the Brothers hold exclusive copyright or what? David Minter mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net ( What an original signature! ) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 17 01:30:35 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA27720 for kats-ll; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 01:15:03 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA27711 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 01:14:59 -0500 Received: from d140.infoserve.net (d153.infoserve.net [199.175.157.153]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA08029 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 22:22:11 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 22:22:11 -0800 Message-Id: <199511170622.WAA08029@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Copyright legality information Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Okay. While the subject has come recently, what is the final word on >this subject? I write short stories all the time based on other copyrighted >information, and I've done my best to get all the copyright owners at the >beginning. However, I'm currently on a SK story, but I don't know how to >phrase the copyright? Is it a three way copyright between the Brothers >Tremblay, HB, and Turner or do the Brothers hold exclusive copyright >or what? Hooray...something on copyright that I *know*! The copyright is actually registered to "Hanna-Barbera Cartoons Inc.", which is a wholly owned subsidiary of Turner Entertainment. The Bros. don't hold any form of copyright (H-B creators have to sign over all their rights in order to get stuff like the WPT's and "Two Stupid Dogs" done in the first place) aside from the apparent rights to a feature film should one be produced. Your disclaimer really only has to include "Hanna-Barbera". _____________________________________________________________ "Sorry for staring...it's just that you looked so much like the 'Cheshire Cat' for a minute there, and I was rather hoping bits of you would begin to disappear.." (--Me) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 17 11:04:05 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA26141 for kats-ll; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 10:38:47 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA26136 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 10:38:42 -0500 Received: from d140.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA27895 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 07:46:09 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 07:46:09 -0800 Message-Id: <199511171546.HAA27895@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Video Game Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Hello, I'm new! Funny, I've spent a full year on the Swat Kats Fan Club on >Prodigy and didn't even KNOW about this mailing list. Yeah, for some reason Kyle Cummings and Dr. Cat don't join us for fun, thrills and totally irrelevent monologues. Their loss - heck, we've even had all our shots. >Anyway, have you guys already talked about the Swat Kats Video Game for >SNES? Does anybody have any codes? (If so, I'll have to rent it again. I >can't find it for sale *anywhere* around here.) Try the usual culprits for purchasing the game - up in Canada we've got the thing only at Toys R Us so far (at 74.99 Canadian - MEOW!) - but these things are SUPPOSED to be in the 'States at Target and whatever stores you guys have that begin with some random consonant and end with "-Mart". >PS- I put in the address for this list on the BB, so we might get some new >members. Cool. Could you also broadcast the Artwork Draw info to P* katfans? I asked Kyle Cummings, but haven't heard anything back yet. Codes? Hmmm....haven't played the thing myself, but a couple of us have probably worn out their first copy by now - how 'bout it SNES fans? _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 17 18:38:57 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA29274 for kats-ll; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 18:14:01 -0500 Received: from ix7.ix.netcom.com (ix7.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.7]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA29269 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 18:13:58 -0500 Received: from by ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id PAA21432; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 15:13:23 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 15:13:23 -0800 Message-Id: <199511172313.PAA21432@ix7.ix.netcom.com> From: danramos@ix.netcom.com (Dan Ramos ) Subject: Re: How do you think of the wepons? (fwd) To: kats@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net You wrote: > >Here's something I received through email which I believe was based >from my web page (look at the URL reference). Thought the list might >find it interesting, and it's most certainly on topic. > > >Forwarded message: >> From kimbrel@ConnectI.com Tue Nov 14 18:14:21 1995 >> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 20:15:06 -0600 >> From: Gary Kimbrell >> X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b2 (Windows; I; 32bit) >> To: razor@rat.org >> Subject: How do you think of the wepons? >> X-Url: http://rat.org/razor/ >> >> -- How do you think of the wepons you use?I would like to think of >> those kinds of wepons to.I watch your show every day right when i >> get home from school.Would you wright me back,my home adress is 342 >> Fox Brair,Hondo , Texas 78861.I love your show!!!!!!!!!!! > Heh... that rocks! :) Fan mail! ;) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Nov 19 17:38:46 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA13130 for kats-ll; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 17:22:47 -0500 Received: from leo.nmc.edu (leo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.239]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA13124 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 17:22:40 -0500 Received: by leo.nmc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA19170; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 17:25:22 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 17:25:21 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: RAT.ORG down? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I can't access rat.org what's wrong? A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Nov 19 18:10:10 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA15500 for kats-ll; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 17:58:15 -0500 Received: from granite.mv.net (rat@granite.mv.net [199.125.70.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA15495 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 17:58:13 -0500 Received: by granite.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-941101) id RAA10800; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 17:58:13 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 17:58:12 -0500 (EST) From: Ratman To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: RAT.ORG down? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sun, 19 Nov 1995, ARTHUR JOHN FREDA wrote: > I can't access rat.org what's wrong? Please. Mail like this SHOULD NOT go to the list. Send them to rat@rat.org Or if you can't remember that, try owner-kats@lists.mv.net remember that message goes to over 50 people, and only one of which (me) could give you an answer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- email: rat@rat.org WWW : http://rat.org FTP : ftp://rat.org/pub ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Nov 21 19:51:01 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA06420 for kats-ll; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 19:26:39 -0500 Received: from you.got.net (you.got.net [205.199.112.9]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA06415 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 19:26:36 -0500 Received: from lsetnor (lsetnor.got.net [205.199.119.206]) by you.got.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA30518 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 16:31:23 -0800 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 16:31:23 -0800 Message-Id: <199511220031.QAA30518@you.got.net> X-Sender: lsetnor@mail.got.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: lsetnor@got.net (Leslie Setnor) Subject: Re: Video Game X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Yeah, for some reason Kyle Cummings and Dr. Cat don't join us for fun, thrills >and totally irrelevent monologues. Their loss - heck, we've even had all our shots. Kyle seems to have no time for anything, he didn't even sign up for the Gargoyles mailing list and he's the club president! (grumble) >>Anyway, have you guys already talked about the Swat Kats Video Game for >>SNES? Does anybody have any codes? (If so, I'll have to rent it again. I >>can't find it for sale *anywhere* around here.) > >Try the usual culprits for purchasing the game - up in Canada we've got the thing >only at Toys R Us so far (at 74.99 Canadian - MEOW!) - but these things are >SUPPOSED to be in the 'States at Target and whatever stores you guys have >that begin with some random consonant and end with "-Mart". 75 Bucks? Me-OWCH! I've looked at all the "Marts" and video game retailers and NOBODY has heard of it. They also give me these funny looks when I tell them the title. Karen Setnor lsetnor@got.net mcjd61b@prodigy.com From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Nov 21 21:51:23 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA13139 for kats-ll; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 21:19:03 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA13134 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 21:19:00 -0500 Received: from net-1-234.austin.eden.com (net-1-234.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.234]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.1.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id UAA06578 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 20:18:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 20:18:47 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199511220218.UAA06578@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: SORRY!!!! I AM TOO BUSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Okay!...Sorry I have not added to my stories for a while, I'm REALLY busy. (I am considering asking the Rat to delete my DAY & NIGHT series, and ending ODD CIRCUMSTANCES.:-( I don't have enough TIME. (Go ahead, rant and scream, tear little strips from my hide, I'm not changing my mind. If you want the rest, though, e-me and I'll send you your own personal copy! Then your happy, I'M happy! I think from now on when I have a story, I'll make it straght to the Rat and stick with one at a time. BTW, my friend Courtney and I are co-writing something for SK. (When she first saw "SK" she thought it was "Sonic and Knuckles.") It's called "Razor's Nemisis" (I think!) with vampires and all that junk. (Gee, maybe we sould have tried writing this BEFORE Halloween!) I got another one coming, so get mad at me now, okay? (Like I said, get mad at me for being fightly, but I don't really care, so don't waste your breath or time or e-mail. :-) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 22 02:19:24 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA28687 for kats-ll; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 01:54:29 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA28682 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 01:54:24 -0500 Received: from d145.infoserve.net (d145.infoserve.net [199.175.157.145]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA24861 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 23:04:36 -0800 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 23:04:36 -0800 Message-Id: <199511220704.XAA24861@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Animato! Katseps guide...the Next Generation Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net (Again, for newcomers, if you missed the earlier parts and want them, just e-mail me and I'll send 'em over. Reprinted with permission). 11. THE CI-KAT-A Airdates: November 20/21, 1993 Written by Glenn Leopold Cicada-like aliens (with pointed, kat-like ears!) take over MASA Space Center, turning scienties Harley Street (Robert Ridgely) and others into literally bug-eyed slaves as part of their plan for world conquest. It's up to the SWAT Kats to thwart the invasion -- and T-Bone must fight his phobic fear of insects every step of the way. This self-conscious tribute to 1950's sci-fi thrillers is moderately enjoyable, but it's undone by the aliens' lack of personality -- compared with the flamboyant Mutilor (from the second season's "When Strikes Mutilor"), the giant bugs aren't very memorable. The best things about this episode are Callie Briggs' brief fight scene with Dr. Street (one of her best heroic moments) and the unusually large role given to Ann Gora (who discovers the alien plot in the first place) B In-Jokes: 1. "The Ci-Kat-a" reuses locations from two earlier SWAT Kats adventures when the alien leader feeds on energy at Megakat Nuclear Plant ("The Wrath of Dark Kat"), then creates a nest for its new brood in the penthouse of Megakat Tower ("Destructive Nature"). When Callie sees the nest she exclaims, "Not again! This building must be cursed!" MASA Space Center had also appeared briefly in "Destructive Nature". 2. Speaking of "Destructive Nature", Mr. Young has a silent cameo here. He and Mayor Manx fare even worse than in the earlier episode, getting covered with alien bug slime at the climax of the action. (ed. note: I personally really liked this one, and Mark's point about the bugs having no personality compared to "Mutilor" seems a bit like comparing "Godzilla" to "Alien". "Alien", like "Ci-Kat-a", was simply extraterrestrial, nasty, and *here*!) 12. ENTER THE MADKAT Airdates: November 27/28 Written by Glenn Leopold Insane comedian Lenny Ringtail, whose mind snapped when he was turned down by "The David Litterbin Show", lets himself be possessed by the vengeful ghost (yes, another one) of a medieval court jester who suffered a similar rejection hundreds of years ago. The result is Madkat (Roddy McDowall), a wisecracking, shapeshifting harlequin who uses his magical powers to kidnap "the king, queen, knight and jester" (AKA Mayor Manx, Deputy Mayor Briggs, Commander Feral and David Litterbin) one by one, then vanish into thin air before the SWAT Kats can stop him. Madkat's Beetlejuice-like stunts make for some wonderfully surreal action sequences, but he just isn't a memorable character -- and for a comedian, he's not very funny, either. McDowall does a good job as Madkat, but an actor with more of an off-the-wall sense of humour (Dan Castellaneta? Mickey Dolenz? Matt Frewer?) could have given the character the Joker-like personality he needed. And unlike his inspiration, David Litterbin (John Byner) comes across as surly instead of amusingly sarcastic. B Appearances: Lt. Steel, who somehow avoided getting fired after his irresponsible actions in "The Wrath of Dark Kat", assumes control of the Enfgorcers when Madkat captures Commander Feral. Trivia: When "Enter the Madkat" aired during the first season, it ran with the wrong closing credits (from "Metal Urgency"), so guest voice actors McDowall, Byner, and James Hong initially received no recognition for their work. The credits were corrected during the second season. (ed. note: The credits were changed after a phone call to H-B from the author of all this; Mark Lungo [hence his mentioning it!]. Roddy McDowall was likely cast as Madkat due to his work as Jervis Tetch (sp?) "The Mad Hatter" on BTAS. Initially, the concept for "Madkat" was a series of sketches and colour models presented to the eps writer, Glenn Leopold, with the instructions that it should become a story. Glenn said something similar to "okay - what's the backstory?", and the Bros. were said to simply have looked at eachother - having not thought it out that far [they're artists, after all]. Leopold came up with the backstory for the character, and thus the ep was born. I found the device of the "king, queen, knight, jester" bit to be one of the most original things I'd ever seen in Sat-AM production, and it more than made up for whatever Mark perceived as this eps shortcomings [IMO]). 13. KATASTROPHE Airdates: December 4/5, 1993 Written by Glenn Leopold SWAT Kats concludes its first season with the supervillain teamup many fans had been waiting for, as Dark Kat, Dr. Viper, and The Metallikats form "an invincible alliance of evil" with only one goal: "Destroy the SWAT Kats!". Can the SWAT Kats (and Manx, Briggs and Feral) take on four villains at once? And how long can these greedy, selfish evildoers cooperate before they start stabbing each other in the back? This episode has a lot to recommend it besides the Teamup -- the pacing is just right, Mook's animation is great, Feral gives on of his best performances, and the end of the second act is a powerful emotional moment. Only some inconsistent writing in the third act (Dark Kat gives three contradictory orders within two minutes, and gives away his desire to betray his partners with two "slips of the tongue" to boot) keeps this from getting an "A+". A (ed. note: [One more of these and I'll have to legally change my name to "ed"] I think Mark's statement about Dark Kat's "contradictory" orders in the third act is simply Dark Kat being duplicitious as opposed to "inconsistent". Rather than "giving away his desire to betray his partners", he's simply doing some rather clumsy foreshadowing - still believing that the allies he's about to betray are as thick as he thinks they are. Didn't work out that way, huh?) (That's it for today - two more parts and we're done. Sadly, the last two parts are the easiest - as the second season only had 10 of the scheduled 13 eps completed. Less to type, but less to watch - it ain't a fair trade). Oh yeah, while we're here. The President of H-B, Fred Seibert, was talking to a WBA friend about setting up a lunch date in the near future. He said something to the effect that their conversation would likely end up being rather "limited" due to the gag order in place concerning the " merger thing currently happening". Looks like there might finally be some movement in the TWC/H-B thing after all. I've asked my WBA friend to put "the dreaded cancellation question" to Fred, and I'll post a form of the answer should one be forthcoming. (Buzz never got back to me...hmmm.) _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 22 10:52:18 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA24365 for kats-ll; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:20:24 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA24360 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:20:16 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.143] (dyn143.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.143]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA22521 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 22:20:15 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 22:16:24 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hi,I'm new at this thing SwatKats, as matter a fact the first episode of SwatKats I saw is a few month ago, and so as a newbie it seems natural that I asked a lot of question, here's my question about the Deputy Mayor: How old is she ? IMHO I personaly think that she are much older than Razor or T-Bone. How does she keep her glasses from falling ? Are they glued ? or her hair is so thick that glasses just stick there ? Does she always wear the same dress in every episode ? The only other dress I saw is the one that her past counterpart wear. How do you spell her fullname and nickname ? I never could figure if it's Callie or Kally. Does she has home ? I only saw her at city hall. BTW is there more character in the good guys side beside Ann Gora, Commander Ferral, Cybotron, Fellina Ferral, Razor, T-Bone, The Archaelogy Doctor, The Deputy Mayor, The Deputy Mayor past counterpart, The Proffesor, Lt.Steel, and Mayor Manx ? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 22 11:55:13 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA28778 for kats-ll; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:34:48 -0500 Received: from maroon.tc.umn.edu (root@maroon.tc.umn.edu [128.101.118.21]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA28773 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:34:45 -0500 Received: by maroon.tc.umn.edu; Wed, 22 Nov 95 10:33:37 -0600 Message-Id: <30b350e15145002@maroon.tc.umn.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 95 10:33:37 -0600 From: Timothy D Fay To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Content-Length: 1560 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Edo Andromedo wrote: >Hi,I'm new at this thing SwatKats, as matter a fact the first episode of >SwatKats I saw is a few month ago, and so as a newbie it seems natural that >I asked a lot of question, here's my question about the Deputy Mayor: >How old is she ? IMHO I personaly think that she are much older than Razor >or T-Bone. She's probably about the same age as T-Bone and Razor, i.e., late 20's. >How does she keep her glasses from falling ? Are they glued ? or her hair >is so thick that glasses just stick there ? Magic. :) >Does she always wear the same dress in every episode ? The only other dress >I saw is the one that her past counterpart wear. She wore a jogging suit in "Mutation City," but apart from that she wore only the business suit. A pity; she'd probably look cute in a bikini. ;) >How do you spell her fullname and nickname ? I never could figure if it's >Callie or Kally. Her full name is Calico Briggs. So I assume "Callie" is the correct spelling (and that's how it's spelled on the model sheets). >Does she has home ? I only saw her at city hall. She lives at City Hall. Being Deputy Major is her life. That, and getting rescued by T-Bone and Razor. ;) >BTW is there more character in the good guys side beside Ann Gora, >Commander Ferral, Cybotron, Fellina Ferral, Razor, T-Bone, The Archaelogy >Doctor, The Deputy Mayor, The Deputy Mayor past counterpart, The Proffesor, >Lt.Steel, and Mayor Manx ? Um. Nope. That's pretty much all of them. Except for Doctor Konway, and who could forget him? :-) -Tim From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 22 12:51:23 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA02751 for kats-ll; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 12:33:28 -0500 Received: from dir1.ulst.ac.uk (dir1.ulst.ac.uk [193.61.189.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA02742 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 12:33:22 -0500 From: C.Carter@ulst.ac.uk Received: from mgvax.ulst.ac.uk (mgvax.ulst.ac.uk [193.61.189.3]) by dir1.ulst.ac.uk (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA11073 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 17:12:49 GMT Received: by mgvax.ulst.ac.uk (MX V4.1 VAX) id 654; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 17:11:06 GMT Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 17:11:05 GMT To: kats@bort.mv.net Message-ID: <00999C85.F8B49CE0.654@mgvax.ulst.ac.uk> Subject: RE: SORRY!!!! I AM TOO BUSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Yes, please! (That probably made no sense as this mailreader won't quote stuff) What I mean is, I'd like a copy of your story - It's just a pity you don't have enough time to work on it, but I know how you feel! Anyway, Thanks very much. Ben Carter (c.carter@ulst.ac.uk) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 22 14:46:05 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA10826 for kats-ll; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 14:23:40 -0500 Received: from dir1.ulst.ac.uk (dir1.ulst.ac.uk [193.61.189.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA10818 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 14:22:54 -0500 From: C.Carter@ulst.ac.uk Received: from mgvax.ulst.ac.uk (mgvax.ulst.ac.uk [193.61.189.3]) by dir1.ulst.ac.uk (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id TAA13037 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 19:24:16 GMT Received: by mgvax.ulst.ac.uk (MX V4.1 VAX) id 678; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 19:22:34 GMT Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 19:22:33 GMT To: kats@bort.mv.net Message-ID: <00999C98.56442940.678@mgvax.ulst.ac.uk> Subject: RE: SORRY!!!! I AM TOO BUSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Sorry about that! I thought "reply" would send to the authot only, not the list! We now returnyou to your normally scheduled postings... Ben Carter (c.carter@ulst.ac.uk) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 22 15:03:34 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA11223 for kats-ll; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 14:38:37 -0500 Received: from fsac5.pica.army.mil (fsac5.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.100]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA11218 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 14:38:34 -0500 Received: by fsac5.Pica.Army.Mil id aa12000; 22 Nov 95 14:40 EST Date: Wed, 22 Nov 95 14:31:49 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Message-ID: <9511221431.aa11944@fsac5.Pica.Army.Mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Tim Fay: >Edo Andromedo wrote: >>Hi,I'm new at this thing SwatKats, as matter a fact the first episode of >>SwatKats I saw is a few month ago, and so as a newbie it seems natural that >>I asked a lot of question, here's my question about the Deputy Mayor: > >>How does she keep her glasses from falling ? Are they glued ? or her hair >>is so thick that glasses just stick there ? > >Magic. :) Well, they have fallen off at least once ("Bride of the Pastmaster" I think). And there has to be something to keep them on, since as you well know her ears are farther up on her head (a much nicer arrangement I might add :) and the temple pieces pass below rather than over her ears. Perhaps it's springiness in them. OTOH she _does_ have such wonderfully thick hair :) >>Does she has home ? I only saw her at city hall. > >She lives at City Hall. Being Deputy Major is her life. That, and getting >rescued by T-Bone and Razor. ;) Well, there are indications she lives elsewhere, as she's not always menaced when at City Hall. Often she's menaced while driving :) >>BTW is there more character in the good guys side beside Ann Gora, >>Commander Ferral, Cybotron, Fellina Ferral, Razor, T-Bone, The Archaelogy >>Doctor, The Deputy Mayor, The Deputy Mayor past counterpart, The Proffesor, >>Lt.Steel, and Mayor Manx ? > >Um. Nope. That's pretty much all of them. Except for Doctor Konway, and >who could forget him? :-) Well, doesn't Ann Gora have a more-or-less regular kameraman, or is that kamera-kat? Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 23 07:12:29 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id HAA08029 for kats-ll; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 07:06:13 -0500 Received: from netman.iscs.nus.sg (root@[137.132.87.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA08024 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 07:06:06 -0500 Received: from sununx.iscs.nus.sg (leetwail) by netman.iscs.nus.sg with SMTP id AA13460 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for kats@bort.mv.net); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 20:05:23 +0800 Received: (from leetwail@localhost) by sununx.iscs.nus.sg (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA25326; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 20:05:17 +0800 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 20:05:16 +0800 (GMT-8) From: Leet Wai Leong Simon To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor In-Reply-To: <9511221431.aa11944@fsac5.Pica.Army.Mil> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >>BTW is there more character in the good guys side beside Ann Gora, > >>Commander Ferral, Cybotron, Fellina Ferral, Razor, T-Bone, The Archaelogy > >>Doctor, The Deputy Mayor, The Deputy Mayor past counterpart, The Proffesor, > >>Lt.Steel, and Mayor Manx ? > > > >Um. Nope. That's pretty much all of them. Except for Doctor Konway, and > >who could forget him? :-) > > Well, doesn't Ann Gora have a more-or-less regular kameraman, or is > that kamera-kat? Isn't he called Bob or something? I vaguely remember her referring to one of her coworkers by that name before ... or maybe that was the Katseye News Chopper pilot ... He's a regular as far as I know, usually refers to Ann as Annie or something ... -Simon Leet :) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 23 10:16:17 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA15306 for kats-ll; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 09:51:16 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA15301 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 09:51:12 -0500 Received: from d149.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA14697 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 07:02:20 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 07:02:20 -0800 Message-Id: <199511231502.HAA14697@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Well, they have fallen off at least once ("Bride of the Pastmaster" >I think). And there has to be something to keep them on, since as >you well know her ears are farther up on her head (a much nicer >arrangement I might add :) and the temple pieces pass below rather >than over her ears. Perhaps it's springiness in them. > >OTOH she _does_ have such wonderfully thick hair :) They fell off in "The Deadly Pyramid", and her appearance sans glasses caused The Pastmaster to have an acid-flashback to "Queen Callista" from "Bride of the Pastmaster". Callie's glasses stay in place because...her...hair..doesn't...move....... *ever*. She brushed her fingers through it once at the end of "Bride", I think - but I doubt it's normally possible without special tools. >>>Does she has home ? I only saw her at city hall. >> >>She lives at City Hall. Being Deputy Major is her life. That, and getting >>rescued by T-Bone and Razor. ;) > >Well, there are indications she lives elsewhere, as she's not always >menaced when at City Hall. Often she's menaced while driving :) Outside "business hours", she hasn't been seen anywhere other than City Hall (to my recollection). She *must* sleep somewhere - the car is too cramped, and the Garage is off-limits because it's a family show. >>>BTW is there more character in the good guys side beside Ann Gora, >>>Commander Ferral, Cybotron, Fellina Ferral, Razor, T-Bone, The Archaelogy >>>Doctor, The Deputy Mayor, The Deputy Mayor past counterpart, The Proffesor, >>>Lt.Steel, and Mayor Manx ? >> >>Um. Nope. That's pretty much all of them. Except for Doctor Konway, and >>who could forget him? :-) > >Well, doesn't Ann Gora have a more-or-less regular kameraman, or is >that kamera-kat? Yep. Her regular Kamera-Kat is named "Rob", I think. I'd technically add Dr. N. Zyme to the good guy cast, despite his apparent demise at the hands of Dr. Viper in "The Deadly Bacteria" (Glenn Leopold calls him "survivally challenged" as opposed to real-dead dead). "The Archeology Doctor" is named Dr. Abby Sinian, and her silliest line comes from "The Deadly Pyramid" in the form of: "We'll ruin months of work on this Katchu Picchu excavation!" (Thank you Mr. Exposition..) Lt. Steel inhabits a rather grey area as regards good kat/bad kat status. He _could_ be a cool character if he wasn't such a ambitious sod - and, is it just me, or does Steel look more Fox than Kat? I gather the "Professor" mentioned in the honor roll above refers to Hackle? Hackle, though undoubtedly a "good kat" deep down, was also responsible for creating Mac and Molly Metallikat (nee "Mange"), and the Giant Military Robots (call 'em "zords" and I'll lock you in a room with Burke and Murray) which trashed MegaKat city in "Metal Urgency". You also get a glimpse of Hackle's vast collection of nifty weapons during a shot in "The Metallikats" (though mine is similar, and I'm *definitely* a good 'Kat). Oh yeah, silly point of anality, but it's "Feral" with a single "r", and the word actually means "wild and unkempt" outside of it's connection with the Kat names (though it seems to suite Felina to a T...) _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 23 14:22:47 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA26865 for kats-ll; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 13:42:07 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA26860 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 13:42:03 -0500 Received: from net-1-219.austin.eden.com (net-1-219.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.219]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.1.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id MAA16633 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 12:42:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 12:42:01 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199511231842.MAA16633@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Yep. Her regular Kamera-Kat is named "Rob", I think. It's Johnny. I watch the credits VERY carefully. (Am I a fanatic kats fan or what?) I don't know where those other names came from, but his name is Johnny. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 23 16:43:52 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA05842 for kats-ll; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 16:14:07 -0500 Received: from leo.nmc.edu (leo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.239]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA05837 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 16:14:00 -0500 Received: by leo.nmc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA01341; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 16:16:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 16:16:41 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: SK TurboKat BBS legal? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Is it legal for me to call my BBS "TurboKat" and have little ansi SK logos, and have SK stuff available for d-load, and call the SysOp "T-Bone" and the co-SysOp "Razor" please tell me before I change all my ansi screens to fit sk. Also, a big BBS i'm on might be getting telnet and FTP and there are chat rooms there. Maybe we could hold our chats there since I am a member! I'll have to ask him. SK Sound Bite update ----------------------------- I almost have the soundbites for "Wrath..." , "Night of Dark....." and "The Metallikats". As soon as I finish them all, I'll be uploading them! A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 23 19:43:48 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA14882 for kats-ll; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:22:43 -0500 Received: from leo.nmc.edu (leo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.239]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA14877 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:22:31 -0500 Received: by leo.nmc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA06394; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:25:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:25:06 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor In-Reply-To: <199511231842.MAA16633@natashya.eden.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net And _I_ have a question: WHAT THE HECK _IS_ A DEPUTY MAYOR?????????? A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 23 20:43:36 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA17495 for kats-ll; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 20:09:25 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA17490 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 20:09:22 -0500 Received: from net-1-156.austin.eden.com (net-1-156.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.156]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.1.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id TAA25945 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:09:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:09:20 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199511240109.TAA25945@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >And _I_ have a question: WHAT THE HECK _IS_ A DEPUTY MAYOR?????????? I think its kinda like president & vice-president. The deputy mayor does part of the work. (Or, in Callie's case, ALL the work. :) ) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 23 20:57:00 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA17638 for kats-ll; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 20:17:43 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA17633 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 20:17:40 -0500 Received: from net-1-156.austin.eden.com (net-1-156.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.156]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.1.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id TAA26146 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:17:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:17:32 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199511240117.TAA26146@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Episode list X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net No offense to whoever made the episode list on Rat's site, but it sucks. "Metal Urgency"'s description didn't even mention the fact that the Metalikats discovred who the Swat Kats are. Maybe we should put the Animato! episode guide in its place? (I can just HEAR he groans of those unlucky people who have to do the typing if everyone agrees with me.) "Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 24 00:41:49 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA29227 for kats-ll; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 00:15:23 -0500 Received: from you.got.net (you.got.net [205.199.112.9]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA29222 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 00:15:20 -0500 Received: from lsetnor (lsetnor.got.net [205.199.119.206]) by you.got.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA31931 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 21:21:47 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 21:21:47 -0800 Message-Id: <199511240521.VAA31931@you.got.net> X-Sender: lsetnor@mail.got.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: lsetnor@got.net (Leslie Setnor) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>And _I_ have a question: WHAT THE HECK _IS_ A DEPUTY MAYOR?????????? > >I think its kinda like president & vice-president. The deputy mayor does >part of the work. (Or, in Callie's case, ALL the work. :) ) I can't WAIT until Manx is finally bumped off. The SK have one less person to rescue, and Cally (Or Callie) (?) finally gets some credit. Fanfic idea coming on.... Karen Setnor lsetnor@got.net mcjd61b@prodigy.com From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 24 01:21:09 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA02446 for kats-ll; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 01:07:22 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA02436 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 01:07:18 -0500 Received: from d144.infoserve.net (d144.infoserve.net [199.175.157.144]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA04311 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 22:18:54 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 22:18:54 -0800 Message-Id: <199511240618.WAA04311@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Episode list Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >No offense to whoever made the episode list on Rat's site, but it sucks. >"Metal Urgency"'s description didn't even mention the fact that the >Metalikats discovred who the Swat Kats are. Maybe we should put the Animato! >episode guide in its place? (I can just HEAR he groans of those unlucky >people who have to do the typing if everyone agrees with me.) > >"Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional." The ep list on rat.org actually came from "Toon" magazine awhile back, and Mike Swanigan can't even claim it sucks with some originality - he stole it verbatim from Lance Falk. I'm the unlucky sod who's doing all the typing for the "Animato!" one, but it should be up on rat.org when I'm done ( It's the only time I've ever thieved anything in print _with_ permission). _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 24 01:28:47 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA02334 for kats-ll; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 01:03:49 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA02314 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 01:03:26 -0500 Received: from d144.infoserve.net (d144.infoserve.net [199.175.157.144]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA03703 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 22:14:43 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 22:14:43 -0800 Message-Id: <199511240614.WAA03703@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SK TurboKat BBS legal? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Is it legal for me to call my BBS "TurboKat" and have little ansi >SK logos, and have SK stuff available for d-load, and call the SysOp >"T-Bone" and the co-SysOp "Razor" please tell me before I change all my >ansi screens to fit sk. Also, a big BBS i'm on might be getting telnet >and FTP and there are chat rooms there. Maybe we could hold our chats >there since I am a member! I'll have to ask him. Eyahhh...we're currently going through all of this on alt.tv.animaniacs. Um, I can't tell you it's legal, but so far most Entertainment entities seem not to worry too much provided you don't have explicit stuff on your site, and you're not deriving profit from the images and text information by any means. In short, it's up to you. "The Cartoon Network" apparently has a site on America On-Hold. Has anyone visited to see if there is any Katstuff present? _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 24 01:32:47 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA01915 for kats-ll; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 00:57:37 -0500 Received: from occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net (occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net [204.71.75.187]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA01910 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 00:57:34 -0500 Received: from s27-pm02.occ-uky.campus.mci.net (s27-pm02.occ-uky.campus.mci.net [205.219.158.86]) by occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA24948 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 23:57:13 -0600 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 23:57:13 -0600 Message-Id: <199511240557.XAA24948@occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net> X-Sender: mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net (David Minter) Subject: Here's a short story... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net SWAT Kats: The Radical Squadron "Southern Sunshine" Copyright 11-23-95 by David B. Minter. SWAT Kats: The Radical Squadron, T-Bone, Razor, Dark Kat, and MegaKat City @1995 by Hanna-Barbera. T-Bone gritted his teeth as his hold against Dark Kat began to give sway. Strength for strength was vying in this fight, and strength was losing... T-BONE'S! Dark Kat returned the SWAT Kat's grimace with an evil grin, one of impending triumph. "You're mine, SWAT Kat! Mine from the very beginning!" Chained to a nearby wall, Razor could only look on, both of their Glovatrixes lying just desperately out of reach on the table in front of Dark Kat's computer. Finally, Dark Kat forced T-Bone down to the cold stone floor of the cave. The small stones dug into T-Bone's fur, even through his jacket. Small pricks of pain ran down his spine, but he wouldn't let his enemy know it. Dark Kat slithered up into his face. His looming, evil hulk casting an ominous shadow over our hero. "Fool! How could you have possibly hoped to have contended with me?!" The acid droll, underscored by Dark Kat's heavy tone, which sounded strangely enough like Brock Peters, reverberated through T-Bone's ears. "I'm only doing this for your greater good!" "You're mad! You're only doing this... whatever it is... for yourself, Dark Kat!" Razor used his buddy's comments as a cue to introduce this story's EI, Evil Invention. "T-BONE! You've got to stop him!" Razor turned to face the titanic cannon-like device jutting up out of the cave through a small latch. "That's an electromagnetic reversing cyclotron! If he activates it, he can control or destroy all radio and television waves with it! Even Video Kat-Sette Recorders won't display audio or video; YOU'VE GOT TO STOP HIM... or free me, one of the two..." T-Bone stared down Dark Kat's gaze. The villains hot, leering breath was in his face. And, that was when he noticed something quite unusual. A small patch of Dark Kat's purple face appeared to have come loose, almost falling away. "Why don't you try to help you friend, SWAT Kat?" And with that, T-Bone brought his paws up into Dark Kat's torso. "Did anyone ever tell you you sound like Brock Peters, Dark Kat?" Using principles of leverage that would take too long to go into right at this moment, T-Bone flipped Dark Kat over onto his back, reversing the hold. He worked a hand free from Dark Kat's grasp and banged his elbow into the villain's nose. Stunned, Dark Kat was caught off guard, and T-Bone took a firm hold of the loose piece of flesh. With a single swipe, T-Bone tore Dark Kat's face off! He was just as stunned as you. In desperation, Dark Kat covered his face with one forepaw and tossed T-Bone into the wall where Razor was chained up with the other. Momentarily stunned, T-Bone shook the soured milk out of his noggin, and began working to free his comrade from his bonds. After a few initial failure tugs, he finally managed to tear the manacles from the wall. RAZOR WAS FREE! The pair snatched their Glovatrixes from the table, and donned them. "THERE!" Razor shouted, pointing to a bank of complicated looking switches. The pair raised their paws, only to be knocked across the room by a Kreepling tossed at them by Dark Kat. The SWAT Kats bounced a few times across the room before finally coming to rest. They stood to see Dark Kat approaching. "Why must you two constantly foil me?! My plans are for the better good. You two had your time, but now it's time for it to come crashing down to an all too early end!" "But why?! We've only just begun!" "We haven't had our chance to-" "Oh, but you have-" Dark Kat interrupted T-Bone. He dropped his forepaw from his face. "-SWAT KATS!" The SWAT Kats were agape at the sight of the revealed Dark Kat. It had all been a ruse, a mask all along. He had never intended to allow them to survive. The creased face bore down on them. His silver hair was slightly disheveled from the conflict. His mouth was a big, toothy grin as he spoke with a southern drawl. "You don't seem to understand! Accept the facts! Both Jane and I prefer Jonny Quest anyway!" He pulled the remote control from his pocket, and aimed it at his cannon. T-Bone and Razor raised their Glovatrixes to try and stop the madman, but it was too late. A far away view of Megakat City would have betrayed the doom rapidly approaching it. The serene city embraced death in its usual manner: unknowingly. The whole city suddenly turned into a long, cylindrical beam of energy, a large dot at its epicenter. With a final BLEEP, the city was shut off for the last time... NOTE: Before I get flamed, this story was, of course, not intended to be taken seriously and was entirely satire against the treatment that the SWAT Kats have received. David Minter mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net ( What an original signature! ) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 24 01:48:00 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA02650 for kats-ll; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 01:18:21 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA02645 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 01:18:18 -0500 Received: from d144.infoserve.net (d144.infoserve.net [199.175.157.144]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA05207 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 22:29:56 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 22:29:56 -0800 Message-Id: <199511240629.WAA05207@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >>Yep. Her regular Kamera-Kat is named "Rob", I think. > >It's Johnny. I watch the credits VERY carefully. (Am I a fanatic kats fan or >what?) I don't know where those other names came from, but his name is Johnny. Hmmm. In Lance Falk's "Chaos in Crystal", the news helo is trying to get a shot of Shard, I think, and Ann Gora leans in to the pilot (I think) and says: "Don't wimp out on me now Rob!" I'll have to go check "The Ci-Kat-a" on VHS to see if Ann Gora actually calls the dude "Jonny" - the other ep where he plays a large part is "Caverns of Horror". **Just a pestering reminder, but you've only got a few days to get your postcard in the mail for the Tremblay's Art Draw...see the sig below if you missed the ten or so earlier posts*** _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 24 02:04:14 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA02589 for kats-ll; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 01:14:00 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA02584 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 01:13:57 -0500 Received: from d144.infoserve.net (d144.infoserve.net [199.175.157.144]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA04967 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 22:25:32 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 22:25:32 -0800 Message-Id: <199511240625.WAA04967@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>And _I_ have a question: WHAT THE HECK _IS_ A DEPUTY MAYOR?????????? >> >>I think its kinda like president & vice-president. The deputy mayor does >>part of the work. (Or, in Callie's case, ALL the work. :) ) > > >I can't WAIT until Manx is finally bumped off. The SK have one less person >to rescue, and Cally (Or Callie) (?) finally gets some credit. Fanfic idea >coming on.... Some of the folks on the list earlier said that they were getting a bit tired of Manx playing the buffoon - but I think he's a likable character just the same. My fave line from Manx comes at the end of "Destructive Nature". After the Siamese Kats get slimed (and their lease of Megakat Towers..er.."delayed"), Manx chases after them as they're walking away from him and says: "Wait...we have some wonderful parting gifts....just don't "part"!!!" Heh. Guess you had to be there. He's a bit inept, a bit dishonest, and would be the model for every civic politician if it weren't for the fact that he's also likable! (I wonder if Ted Turner has a cutout of himself in the window when _he's_ supposed to be burning the midnight oil). **Happy Thanksgiving, South of the 49th types!*** _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 24 02:47:59 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA05396 for kats-ll; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 02:33:56 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA05391 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 02:33:51 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.148] (dyn148.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.148]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA00364 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 14:35:07 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 02:31:05 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>And _I_ have a question: WHAT THE HECK _IS_ A DEPUTY MAYOR?????????? > >I think its kinda like president & vice-president. The deputy mayor does >part of the work. Yes, it just like the Sheriff Deputy or the Deputy Marshall, so the Deputy Mayor means an assistant to the mayor. >(Or, in Callie's case, ALL the work. :-) ) Of all that work on her back, she should deserve at least an assistant of her own. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 24 10:41:57 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA26895 for kats-ll; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 10:27:52 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA26890 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 10:27:50 -0500 Received: from d142.infoserve.net (d142.infoserve.net [199.175.157.142]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA21936 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 07:39:43 -0800 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 07:39:43 -0800 Message-Id: <199511241539.HAA21936@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>And _I_ have a question: WHAT THE HECK _IS_ A DEPUTY MAYOR?????????? >> >>I think its kinda like president & vice-president. The deputy mayor does >>part of the work. > >Yes, it just like the Sheriff Deputy or the Deputy Marshall, so the Deputy >Mayor means an assistant to the mayor. > >>(Or, in Callie's case, ALL the work. :-) ) > >Of all that work on her back, she should deserve at least an assistant of >her own. I nominate -- Razor! (Though I think they'd have widely varying definitions concerning "authorized duties"). _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 24 13:40:15 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA06612 for kats-ll; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 13:28:33 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA06607 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 13:28:30 -0500 Received: from net-1-154.austin.eden.com (net-1-154.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.154]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.1.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id MAA23933 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 12:28:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 12:28:27 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199511241828.MAA23933@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Hmmm. In Lance Falk's "Chaos in Crystal", the news helo is trying to get a shot >of Shard, I think, and Ann Gora leans in to the pilot (I think) and says: > >"Don't wimp out on me now Rob!" She was talking to the guy flying the choper. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 24 16:10:26 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA14960 for kats-ll; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:05:37 -0500 Received: from leo.nmc.edu (leo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.239]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA14947 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:05:26 -0500 Received: by leo.nmc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA05971; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:08:04 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:08:03 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: SK TurboKat BBS legal? In-Reply-To: <199511240614.WAA03703@unix.infoserve.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I was over at a friend's house one day, and he has AOL, we went to the TCN site, and no sk stuff was to be seen, except for a little SK bulitin board. That bulitin board is how I found out about rat.org!!!! Thank You to whoever posted rat.org on the bulitin board!!!! A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 24 16:46:01 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA15175 for kats-ll; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:13:11 -0500 Received: from leo.nmc.edu (leo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.239]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA15164 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:12:59 -0500 Received: by leo.nmc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA06327; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:15:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:15:43 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor In-Reply-To: <199511240629.WAA05207@unix.infoserve.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Ann Gora does say his name is Johnny in "Caverns Of Horror" I think. She says "How's the picture, Johnny?" and he replies with "Crystal!" A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 24 17:05:44 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA15331 for kats-ll; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:21:48 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA15325 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:21:45 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.140] (dyn140.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.140]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id EAA17156 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 04:22:57 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 16:18:55 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Hmmm. In Lance Falk's "Chaos in Crystal", the news helo is trying to get >>a shot >>of Shard, I think, and Ann Gora leans in to the pilot (I think) and says: >> >>"Don't wimp out on me now Rob!" > >She was talking to the guy flying the choper. I think that she also say that in "The Wrath of Dark Kat", and the result is a chopped helicopter blade. :-) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 24 17:08:16 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA15324 for kats-ll; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:21:44 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA15316 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:21:41 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.140] (dyn140.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.140]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id EAA17153 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 04:22:54 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 16:18:52 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>>And _I_ have a question: WHAT THE HECK _IS_ A DEPUTY MAYOR?????????? >>> >>>I think its kinda like president & vice-president. The deputy mayor does >>>part of the work. (Or, in Callie's case, ALL the work. :) ) >> >> >>I can't WAIT until Manx is finally bumped off. The SK have one less person >>to rescue, and Cally (Or Callie) (?) finally gets some credit. Fanfic idea >>coming on.... > >Some of the folks on the list earlier said that they were getting a bit >tired of >Manx playing the buffoon - but I think he's a likable character just the same. Yes, Manx just like Steel, they maybe likeable but their use is just for laugh. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 24 17:15:23 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA15317 for kats-ll; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:21:42 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA15310 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:21:39 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.140] (dyn140.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.140]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id EAA17150 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 04:22:51 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 16:18:49 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Of all that work on her back, she should deserve at least an assistant of >>her own. > >I nominate -- Razor! (Though I think they'd have widely varying >definitions concerning "authorized duties"). Yes, having Razor as Deputy Mayor assistant may be nice, but unfortunetaly he's already taken by T-Bone and Chance, and after all, who's gonna repair the TurboKat ? I may also nominate Lt.Steel, but it seems that he's ain't very good at handling a problem, and after all Feral already got him.(He's needed Steel so that he can used him as a target practice for the Enforcer :-) ) The bottom line is that Swat Kats maybe need a new character if Callie going ever to get an assistan, Who knows ! maybe if the Kats series ever going to be revived again, we will see an assistan for Callie. (I personaly have a character for the assistan, but you may think that it's silly) PS: I even bet that if there's an opened oppurtunity for being Callie assistan, I know that all the SwatKats fan will be lining up at Mega Kat city hall for the job. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Nov 24 23:10:06 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA02550 for kats-ll; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 22:42:38 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA02545 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 22:42:34 -0500 Received: from d142.infoserve.net (d142.infoserve.net [199.175.157.142]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA01767 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 19:54:38 -0800 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 19:54:38 -0800 Message-Id: <199511250354.TAA01767@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >The bottom line is that Swat Kats maybe need a new character if Callie >going ever to get an assistan, Who knows ! maybe if the Kats series ever >going to be revived again, we will see an assistan for Callie. (I personaly >have a character for the assistan, but you may think that it's silly) Hanna-Barbera sunk something like 10 million of Ted's bucks into "SwatKats", which is why cancellation after a handful of eps seems ludicrous. TCN is going to need some more ac/adv to air shortly, and you can only run the back-catalogue just so many times before it gets stale. TCN is also programming in many other nations aside from the CONUS (although Canada ain't among 'em), and many of these folks haven't seen any American ac/adv aside from TMNT whatsoever. I think the only thing stopping Turnerco from refuelling the Turbokat at the moment is cash. Ted realizes that he can get far more minutes of animation for his dollar by sinking it all in to the most Ruby-Spears-ish of the World Premiere Toons/What a Cartoon! outings, and could more than likely get ten/fifteen of these 7-minuters as opposed to one 22 minute ep of the Kats. Kinda false economy if you ask me. I don't think it's a coincidence that the people responsible for fan-relations at TCN and Hanna-Barbera Classic Characters both are Kat-fans, and both think the cancel order seems a bit silly. Maybe now that WB is entering the picture, something will move in a positive direction. H-B sure needs one of those. Oh yeah, what exactly is your idea for an assistant for Deputy Mayor Briggs? There's no such thing as "silly" on this mailing list - we've all taken turns! _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Nov 25 19:15:10 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA27982 for kats-ll; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 18:50:48 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA27977 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 18:50:43 -0500 Received: from d146.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA16745 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 16:03:05 -0800 Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 16:03:05 -0800 Message-Id: <199511260003.QAA16745@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net This was apparently meant for the list, so..here goes! >X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id >Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 06:22:36 +0700 >To: chance@unix.infoserve.net >From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) >Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor > >>They fell off in "The Deadly Pyramid", > >They also fell off in "The Metalikats". > >>>>Does she has home ? I only saw her at city hall. >> >>Outside "business hours", she hasn't been seen anywhere other than City >>Hall (to >>my recollection). She *must* sleep somewhere - the car is too cramped, and >>the Garage is off-limits because it's a family show. > >So does it means that Callie house will remain one of SwatKats mysteries ? >Just like her glasses ? > >>>>Well, doesn't Ann Gora have a more-or-less regular kameraman, or is >>>>that kamera-kat? >> >>Yep. Her regular Kamera-Kat is named "Rob", I think. >>Lt. Steel inhabits a rather grey area as regards good kat/bad kat status. >>He _could_ be a cool character if he >wasn't such a ambitious sod - > >I think that Steel maybe just fall in the same catagory as Manx, likeable >but never going to mount to anything. > >>and, is it just me, or does Steel look more Fox than Kat? > >Yes, you're right, Steel look more like a Fox instead of a Kat, maybe it >just because of his personalities. > >>I gather the "Professor" mentioned in the honor roll above refers to Hackle? > >Yes, that's him all right. > >>Hackle, though undoubtedly a "good kat" deep down, was also responsible >>for creating Mac and Molly >>Metallikat (nee "Mange"), > >Well, he doesn't create them, he just give them a new body, and he also >create Cybotron (A friendly fellow if I might add :-) ). > >>and the Giant Military Robots (call 'em "zords" and I'll lock you in a >>room with Burke and Murray) which trashed >MegaKat city in "Metal >>Urgency". > >I never meet Burke and Murray, but my Kat senses says that if I meet them, >I should run to a radius of 10 km from them. :-) > >>You also get a glimpse of Hackle's vast collection of nifty weapons during >>a shot in >>"The Metallikats" (though mine is similar, and I'm *definitely* a good 'Kat). > >He aren't producing them anymore and the Metalikat took all of them, BTW >he's now devoting all his invention to the good of Katkind. (Ok, I'm >defending him, but he's one of my favorite charachter) > >>Oh yeah, silly point of anality, but it's "Feral" with a single "r", and >>the word actually >>means "wild and unkempt" outside of it's connection with the Kat names > >Thanks, maybe if I watch "The Wrath of Dark Kat" again I will know he's >name correctly.(Steel throw out Feral name plate from his desk on that >episode) > >>(though it seems to suite Felina to a T...) > >Why ? > > > > _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Nov 25 22:46:28 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA08051 for kats-ll; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:27:03 -0500 Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com (mail06.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.108]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA08046 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:27:00 -0500 From: CNbL@aol.com Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA21511 for kats@bort.mv.net; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:26:29 -0500 Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:26:29 -0500 Message-ID: <951125222628_33942807@mail06.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re:Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>outside "buisness hours"' she hasn't been seen anywhere other than City Hall. I have most of the series on tape and I reviewed them today. I don't think they ever showed her home, but you can catch a glimpse of Feral's appartment in "Enter The Madkat". From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Nov 25 22:55:39 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA07960 for kats-ll; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:22:55 -0500 Received: from ernie.beta.delphi.com (root@ernie-fore.beta.delphi.com [199.93.12.36]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA07955 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:22:52 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (slip110-184.bb.delphi.com [206.15.110.184]) by ernie.beta.delphi.com (8.6.11/Delphi Beta SMTP GW) with SMTP id WAA18831 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:22:46 -0500 Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:22:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199511260322.WAA18831@ernie.beta.delphi.com> X-Sender: matt_w@pop.beta.delphi.com X-Mailer: Windows Delphi Mail Version 2.1.1b5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: MATT WEBER Subject: Re: SK TurboKat BBS legal? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 04:16 PM 11/23/95 -0500, you wrote: >and FTP and there are chat rooms there. Maybe we could hold our chats >there since I am a member! I'll have to ask him. Well, depending on the capacity of his machine, we may have quite a bit of lag working from here. However, for all you out there interested, you can usually find a SK channel open on a regualar basis. The IRC server is irc.cerf.net and the channel is #swatkats. I will be there Tuesday at 9pm EST (11/28) (provided my i-net service is operational at the time.) --------------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us play: matt_w@beta.delphi.com NOTE: This area under construction. Watch for falling anvils. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Nov 25 22:58:34 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA07972 for kats-ll; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:23:05 -0500 Received: from ernie.beta.delphi.com (root@ernie-fore.beta.delphi.com [199.93.12.36]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA07965 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:23:02 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (slip110-184.bb.delphi.com [206.15.110.184]) by ernie.beta.delphi.com (8.6.11/Delphi Beta SMTP GW) with SMTP id WAA12384 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:22:58 -0500 Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:22:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199511260322.WAA12384@ernie.beta.delphi.com> X-Sender: matt_w@pop.beta.delphi.com X-Mailer: Windows Delphi Mail Version 2.1.1b5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: MATT WEBER Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 07:54 PM 11/24/95 -0800, you wrote: >Hanna-Barbera sunk something like 10 million of Ted's bucks into "SwatKats", >which is why cancellation after a handful of eps seems ludicrous. TCN is going >to need some more ac/adv to air shortly, and you can only run the back-catalogue >just so many times before it gets stale. i.e. The non-stop re-running of the "Johnny Quest & the Cyber Insects" crap on TNT. Ted, I couldn't watch it all the way through the first time. Why would you want to keep showing it ad infinitum? Maybe if you put some Swat Kats on TNT instead... >I think the only thing stopping Turnerco from refuelling the Turbokat at the >moment is cash. Ted realizes that he can get far more minutes of animation for >his dollar by sinking it all in to the most Ruby-Spears-ish of the World Premiere >Toons/What a Cartoon! outings, and could more than likely get ten/fifteen of >these 7-minuters as opposed to one 22 minute ep of the Kats. Kinda false Yeah, the only thing stopping him is cash... and a kick in the pants! Ahem. Ted, there's an old saying, "You get what you pay for." The fans certainly recognize the difference in quality & content between stuff like WPT and SK. I don't understand why you can't. >are Kat-fans, and both think the cancel order seems a bit silly. Maybe now that >WB is entering the picture, something will move in a positive direction. H-B sure >needs one of those. Well, I wouldn't count on WB getting into the picture anytime soon (unless you've heard otherwise Chance.) I'm sure that H-B is the _least_ of WB's worries at the moment. I'd think they'd focus all their energy on other projects, especially since WB has their own network and Toons to think about. I've been lurking too much again! --------------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us play: matt_w@beta.delphi.com NOTE: This area under construction. Watch for falling anvils. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Nov 25 23:07:58 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA07986 for kats-ll; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:23:13 -0500 Received: from ernie.beta.delphi.com (root@ernie-fore.beta.delphi.com [199.93.12.36]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA07977 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:23:10 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (slip110-184.bb.delphi.com [206.15.110.184]) by ernie.beta.delphi.com (8.6.11/Delphi Beta SMTP GW) with SMTP id WAA18853 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:23:07 -0500 Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:23:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199511260323.WAA18853@ernie.beta.delphi.com> X-Sender: matt_w@pop.beta.delphi.com X-Mailer: Windows Delphi Mail Version 2.1.1b5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: MATT WEBER Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net OK, I removed a bunch of the ">" thingys >Does she has home ? I only saw her at city hall. >Outside "business hours", she hasn't been seen anywhere other than City >Hall (to my recollection). She *must* sleep somewhere - the car is too >cramped, and the Garage is off-limits because it's a family show. >So does it means that Callie house will remain one of SwatKats mysteries? >Just like her glasses? In "Origin of Dr. Viper" she went to visit MegaKat Biochemical on Saturday ("Saturday's usually my day to sleep in.") and showed up wearing a jogging outfit--or were those pajamas? :) In "Mutation City" we kinda see where Manx lives (well, you see the bathroom anyway). You could probablly guess that Manx lives in an apartment hi-rise (note the windows in the background when the camera angle's looking down on him--there's no ground outside). Also, Callie is wearing the jogging outfit again and is on her way to Enforcer headquarters. (hmm..) >Well, doesn't Ann Gora have a more-or-less regular kameraman, or is >that kamera-kat? >Yep. Her regular Kamera-Kat is named "Rob", I think. In "Caverns of Horror" Annie called him "Johnny". "Rob" may be the name of the Kats Eye News chopper pilot. I seem to remember her talking to him, but I can't remember the ep. Annie asked him to get closer to the action and he said something like, "..after what did to those Enforcer choppers?! No way!" I'll have to go through my tapes. >Lt. Steel inhabits a rather grey area as regards good kat/bad kat status. >He _could_ be a cool character if he wasn't such a ambitious sod - >I think that Steel maybe just fall in the same catagory as Manx, likeable >but never going to mount to anything. Seems to me that he's one notch below Feral. Feral outwardly dislikes the guys 'cause they always make him look bad (and how would it look for the Enforcer Commander to endorse a couple of vigilantes?) But inwardly, he likes what they're doing (it's rather obvious.) However, Steele shows his dislike of the guys to play on Feral's conscience and promote his own career. Steele doesn't show *any* good feelings towards the guys. hmm.. someday I'm gonna have to make the "Definitive Kats Compendium". --------------------------------------------------------------- work: mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us play: matt_w@beta.delphi.com NOTE: This area under construction. Watch for falling anvils. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Nov 26 00:47:21 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA14042 for kats-ll; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 00:21:51 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA14037 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 00:21:37 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.148] (dyn148.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.148]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA16094 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 12:22:42 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 00:18:40 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Tim Fay: >>>How does she keep her glasses from falling ? Are they glued ? or her hair >>>is so thick that glasses just stick there ? > >Well, they have fallen off at least once ("Bride of the Pastmaster" I think) No, I think that it's probally "Deadly Pyramid" and "The Metalikats" episodes, that's the only two episodes I saw Callie dropped her glass accidently, "The Bride of Pastmaster" doesn't show any Callie at all. .>And there has to be something to keep them on, since as you well know her ears are farther up on her head >(a much nicer arrangement I might add :-) ) and the temple pieces pass below rather than over her ears. Maybe an upside down human glasses will work for her too, with a little modification of course. :-) >Perhaps it's springiness in them. Of course it have to be a strong spring to clam on her head, and a strong spring aren't comfortable to wear unless you have a thick hair (Of course that isn't really a big problem :-) ). >OTOH she _does_ have such wonderfully thick hair :-) Well, she has a nice long tail too. :-) >>Does she has home ? I only saw her at city hall. > >Well, there are indications she lives elsewhere, as she's not always >menaced when at City Hall. Often she's menaced while driving :-) Excuse me, but what is a "menaced" ? sorry about that, but my english aren't that good. >>BTW is there more character in the good guys side. > >Well, doesn't Ann Gora have a more-or-less regular kameraman, or is that >kamera-kat? Let's we just call him the camera guy, and are one of Ann camere guy ever did something out of the ordinary ? >Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Nov 26 00:53:11 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA14049 for kats-ll; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 00:22:05 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA14044 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 00:21:54 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.148] (dyn148.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.148]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA16090 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 12:22:37 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 00:18:35 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>How old is she ? IMHO I personaly think that she are much older than Razor >>or T-Bone. > >She's probably about the same age as T-Bone and Razor, i.e., late 20's. Yes, now I think that her age maybe even closer to T-Bone and Razor, but if I may judged her age by her personalities, I think that she may be a little bit older than them. >>How does she keep her glasses from falling ? Are they glued ? or her hair >>is so thick that glasses just stick there ? > >Magic. :-) Magic ? Hmmm......, cartoon magic perhaps ? Is it the same magic that make the TurboKat could load all the SwatKats mini vehicle ? >>Does she always wear the same dress in every episode ? The only other dress >>I saw is the one that her past counterpart wear. > >She wore a jogging suit in "Mutation City," Just saw "Mutation City" today, and she looks great on those suit, it's too bad that the episode doesn't include more Callie. :-( >but apart from that she wore only the business suit. Maybe she give her best look on a business suit. ;-) >A pity; she'd probably look cute in a bikini. ;-) I'm glad to know that I wasn't the only one who also think of that :-), BTW the only episode that I saw a beach is "When strikes Mutilor", maybe Callie doesn't like water. :-) >Her full name is Calico Briggs. So I assume "Callie" is the correct >spelling (and that's how it's spelled on the model sheets). Then the name of her past counterpart must be Callista, and are the Briggs is with two "g"s or one "g" ? >>Does she has home ? I only saw her at city hall. > >She lives at City Hall. Being Deputy Major is her life. How many kats that actualy lives inside city hall ? and how does she meet Manx ? >That, and getting rescued by T-Bone and Razor. ;-) How does she get the SwatKats communicator ? >>BTW is there more character in the good guys side ? > >Um. Nope. That's pretty much all of them. Except for Doctor Konway, and >who could forget him? :-) Are Konway got more part besides "Mutation City" ? It's seems that he just play a little part in "Mutation City". >-Tim From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Nov 26 05:18:25 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id FAA27192 for kats-ll; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 05:04:00 -0500 Received: from dir1.ulst.ac.uk (dir1.ulst.ac.uk [193.61.189.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id FAA27187 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 05:03:57 -0500 From: C.Carter@ulst.ac.uk Received: from mgvax.ulst.ac.uk (mgvax.ulst.ac.uk [193.61.189.3]) by dir1.ulst.ac.uk (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA27788 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 10:06:38 GMT Received: by mgvax.ulst.ac.uk (MX V4.1 VAX) id 806; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 10:03:36 GMT Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 10:03:35 GMT To: KATS@bort.mv.net Message-ID: <00999F6E.E9AD5480.806@mgvax.ulst.ac.uk> Subject: BBC re-runs (UK) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I don't know if any other UK viewers read this list, but I thought I'd point out that BBC are starting to re-run SK on weekday mornings (BBC2, around 8AM) in case you hadn't noticed! Ben Carter (c.carter@ulst.ac.uk) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Nov 26 21:13:23 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA12868 for kats-ll; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 20:58:06 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA12863 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 20:58:01 -0500 Received: from d150.infoserve.net (d150.infoserve.net [199.175.157.150]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA20073 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 18:11:27 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 18:11:27 -0800 Message-Id: <199511270211.SAA20073@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: GVVY03C@Prodigy.com (B-KO DAITOKUJI) (by way of chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance)) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >OTOH she _does_ have such wonderfully thick hair :) The typical Japanese stereotype of kats and people IS, in fact, huge hair, and large eyes. SWAT Kats Dosn't show this as much, because it has an unfortionate American influence @@@@8) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Nov 26 21:43:00 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA13477 for kats-ll; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 21:27:37 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA13470 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 21:27:32 -0500 Received: from d150.infoserve.net (d150.infoserve.net [199.175.157.150]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA22318 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 18:40:59 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 18:40:59 -0800 Message-Id: <199511270240.SAA22318@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Here's a short story... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> The SWAT Kats were agape at the sight of the revealed > Dark Kat. It had all been a ruse, a mask all along. He > had never intended to allow them to survive. The creased > face bore down on them. His silver hair was slightly > disheveled from the conflict. His mouth was a big, toothy > grin as he spoke with a southern drawl. "You don't seem > to understand! Accept the facts! Both Jane and I prefer > Jonny Quest anyway!" hehehehehhhe...right on. After I got the rundown on that "Jonny Quest and the Extra Crispy Bugs" or whatever, it would appear that Atlanta is seriously short of clues this year. I wonder if any of the execs at TCN/HB/Fonda-com would be able to look anyone in the eye and tell them that a Kat-feature aired on TNT in a similar manner to the forgettable Jonny outing *WOULDN'T* do well. Then again, you don't get to be head of such an empire without being a damn good liar. _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Nov 26 21:50:48 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA13356 for kats-ll; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 21:18:49 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA13351 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 21:18:43 -0500 Received: from d150.infoserve.net (d150.infoserve.net [199.175.157.150]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA21342 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 18:32:06 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 18:32:06 -0800 Message-Id: <199511270232.SAA21342@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>She's probably about the same age as T-Bone and Razor, i.e., late 20's. > >Yes, now I think that her age maybe even closer to T-Bone and Razor, but if >I may judged her age by her personalities, I think that she may be a little >bit older than them. To me, I think Callie would be of an age roughly between the two Kat guys (most of us seem to agree that T-Bone is older than Razor). >Magic ? Hmmm......, cartoon magic perhaps ? Is it the same magic that make >the TurboKat could load all the SwatKats mini vehicle ? Heh. Those are questions we've learned not to ask! "Cartoon Physics" is a couple of words that should *never* be seen together . >Just saw "Mutation City" today, and she looks great on those suit, it's too >bad that the episode doesn't include more Callie. :-( I think I recall someone telling me that Callie was consciously utilized less in the second season than she was the first - in order to give Felina a chance in the spotlight. Felina was actually conceived before the first ep of the program was even filmed, but her appearance was "postponed" in favour of Callie Briggs for the first season. >>Her full name is Calico Briggs. So I assume "Callie" is the correct >>spelling (and that's how it's spelled on the model sheets). > >Then the name of her past counterpart must be Callista, and are the Briggs >is with two "g"s or one "g" ? Two "g"'s - always! I wonder what the deal was with the significance of "MegaLITH City" was in "Bride of the Pastmaster"? It always seemed rather a strange choice to me. >How does she get the SwatKats communicator ? It isn't shown anywhere that I can recall, but the Kat guys gave Callie the communicator before we see them in any episodes. Strangely, "Razor" is played by the same voice-actor that does "Donatello" in the Ninja Turtles cartoon - with *that* character giving a communicator to April O'Neil in much the same fashion as Razor must have to Callie. Barry Gordon must really like being cast as a gadget-whiz with a penchant for giving away his toys to lovely ladies! >>>BTW is there more character in the good guys side ? >Are Konway got more part besides "Mutation City" ? It's seems that he just >play a little part in "Mutation City". The bragging rights actually belong to the lists' own Doctor Conway, on which "Doc Konway" was directly modelled, but the character does not appear in any other episodes or unused scripts that I'm aware of. Our Doc Conway wrote a great fan-letter to the show early on in the run, and the Tremblay Bros wrote back and turned him in to a character (and sent him a drawing!) for "Mutation City" (which was itself an idea of the Tremblays). One of the other list gang was offered "character" status, but the series was nixed before he could take 'em up on it. _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Nov 27 11:14:22 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA25155 for kats-ll; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:52:06 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA25091 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:52:01 -0500 Received: from d142.infoserve.net (d142.infoserve.net [199.175.157.142]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA28479 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 08:05:42 -0800 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 08:05:42 -0800 Message-Id: <199511271605.IAA28479@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Kats art Drawing... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Just reminding everyone that the window on the draw for the Tremblays artwork closes in a couple days, so you might want to put off your procrastinating for another day if you haven't already sent in your postcard/whatever. See the sig at the bottom of this for address information. Oh yeah, for general information. If you were ever tempted to send a fan-letter off to the Bros., that address will work for that too up until about the sixth or seventh of December. You may or may not get a reply because they're swamped with the new stuff they're doing for Film Roman. Anyways, they always welcome Katmail (and Hanna-Barbera no longer forwards whatever they get). Later. _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Nov 27 12:54:41 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA01082 for kats-ll; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 12:19:58 -0500 Received: from fsac5.pica.army.mil (fsac5.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.100]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA01077 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 12:19:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 12:15:52 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Here's a short story... Message-ID: <9511271215.aa15613@fsac5.Pica.Army.Mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>> The SWAT Kats were agape at the sight of the revealed >> Dark Kat. It had all been a ruse, a mask all along. He >> had never intended to allow them to survive. The creased >> face bore down on them. His silver hair was slightly >> disheveled from the conflict. His mouth was a big, toothy >> grin as he spoke with a southern drawl. "You don't seem >> to understand! Accept the facts! Both Jane and I prefer >> Jonny Quest anyway!" > >hehehehehhhe...right on. After I got the rundown on that "Jonny Quest and the >Extra Crispy Bugs" or whatever, it would appear that Atlanta is seriously short >of clues this year. I wonder if any of the execs at TCN/HB/Fonda-com would >be able to look anyone in the eye and tell them that a Kat-feature aired on TNT >in a similar manner to the forgettable Jonny outing *WOULDN'T* do well. Then >again, you don't get to be head of such an empire without being a damn good liar. But, but, but it's not the same. "Jonny Quest and the Silly Insects" is supposed to be the last gasp of the "old" Jonny Quest. Tedco's upcoming "hit series" is supposed to be the "new" Jonny Quest. Personally I'd rather spend my time haranguing my cable company to get TCN so I can watch the Kats, so I won't waste my time on any of this Quest-ionable material. Hell, I hated it when I was a kid. Ed Rudnicki erudnick@pica.army.mil Oculis numquam claudentibus From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Nov 27 15:33:06 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA13874 for kats-ll; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:23:11 -0500 Received: from fsac5.pica.army.mil (fsac5.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.100]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA13869 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:23:09 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 15:27:23 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Message-ID: <9511271527.aa16344@fsac5.Pica.Army.Mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>>How does she keep her glasses from falling ? Are they glued ? or her hair >>>>is so thick that glasses just stick there ? >> >>Well, they have fallen off at least once ("Bride of the Pastmaster" I think) > >No, I think that it's probally "Deadly Pyramid" and "The Metalikats" Deadly Pyramid it is. I was thinking of the Pastmaster's flashbacks to Callista. I haven't seen all the eps yet. So sue me :) >.>And there has to be something to keep them on, since as you well know her >ears are farther up on her head >(a much nicer arrangement I >might add :-) ) and the temple pieces pass below rather than over her >ears. > >Maybe an upside down human glasses will work for her too, with a little >modification of course. :-) That won't work, because gravity would still tend to pull them downwards. >>Perhaps it's springiness in them. > >Of course it have to be a strong spring to clam on her head, and a strong >spring aren't comfortable to wear unless you have a thick hair (Of course >that isn't really a big problem :-) ). That's probably it. I had thought that kats might wear glasses with straps, like goggles, but when Callie dropped her glasses that stopped working. >>OTOH she _does_ have such wonderfully thick hair :-) > >Well, she has a nice long tail too. :-) Indeed (Ed mutters about furries rubbing off on him. Pun intended :). >>>Does she has home ? I only saw her at city hall. >> >>Well, there are indications she lives elsewhere, as she's not always >>menaced when at City Hall. Often she's menaced while driving :-) > >Excuse me, but what is a "menaced" ? sorry about that, but my english >aren't that good. Menaced = threatened, imperiled, placed in danger, that sort of thing. About to have bad things happen to :) Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Nov 27 16:43:00 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA18096 for kats-ll; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 16:26:04 -0500 Received: from leo.nmc.edu (leo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.239]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA18088 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 16:25:53 -0500 Received: by leo.nmc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA07572; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 16:28:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 16:28:39 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor In-Reply-To: <199511260323.WAA18853@ernie.beta.delphi.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sat, 25 Nov 1995, MATT WEBER wrote: > In "Caverns of Horror" Annie called him "Johnny". "Rob" may be the name of > the Kats Eye News chopper pilot. I seem to remember her talking to him, but > I can't remember the ep. Annie asked him to get closer to the action and he > said something like, "..after what did to those Enforcer choppers?! No Way!" To find out the pilot's name, just check in just about any episode that has "Dark Kat" in the title, like "Night of" and "Wrath". > Seems to me that he's one notch below Feral. Feral outwardly dislikes the > guys 'cause they always make him look bad (and how would it look for the > Enforcer Commander to endorse a couple of vigilantes?) But inwardly, he > likes what they're doing (it's rather obvious.) However, Steele shows his > dislike of the guys to play on Feral's conscience and promote his own > career. Steele doesn't show *any* good feelings towards the guys. Feral really does like the Kat guys. He just doesn't show it because it would make any commander look bad, as said above. Check out "Katastrophe". A.J. Freda Mac: "I didn't know that was your sister's car ah518@leo.nmc.edu back there!" "Tails" on IRC Molly: "You always hated my side of the family!" SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Nov 27 17:51:38 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA22580 for kats-ll; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:33:34 -0500 Received: from fsac5.pica.army.mil (fsac5.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.100]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA22570 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:33:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 17:36:47 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Message-ID: <9511271736.aa16631@fsac5.Pica.Army.Mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >The bottom line is that Swat Kats maybe need a new character if Callie >going ever to get an assistan, Who knows ! maybe if the Kats series ever >going to be revived again, we will see an assistan for Callie. (I personaly >have a character for the assistan, but you may think that it's silly) They should at least give her a secretary or something. I mean, isn't it enough for her to run the city without having to deal with all the menial bullshit that goes with the job. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Nov 27 18:05:20 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA22967 for kats-ll; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:43:34 -0500 Received: from fsac5.pica.army.mil (fsac5.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.100]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA22962 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:43:32 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 17:41:13 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Message-ID: <9511271741.aa16646@fsac5.Pica.Army.Mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>>And _I_ have a question: WHAT THE HECK _IS_ A DEPUTY MAYOR?????????? >>> >>>I think its kinda like president & vice-president. The deputy mayor does >>>part of the work. (Or, in Callie's case, ALL the work. :) ) Actually, the deputy mayor does all the work, while the mayor gets all the credit. >>I can't WAIT until Manx is finally bumped off. The SK have one less person >>to rescue, and Cally (Or Callie) (?) finally gets some credit. Fanfic idea >>coming on.... Callie will have the job, but only until the next election. She's a hard worker, and does a great job of keeping things running, but she's clearly no politician, and wouldn't stand a chance of getting elected. Sad but true. >Some of the folks on the list earlier said that they were getting a bit tired of >Manx playing the buffoon - but I think he's a likable character just the same. >My fave line from Manx comes at the end of "Destructive Nature". After the >Siamese Kats get slimed (and their lease of Megakat Towers..er.."delayed"), >Manx chases after them as they're walking away from him and says: > >"Wait...we have some wonderful parting gifts....just don't "part"!!!" > >Heh. Guess you had to be there. He's a bit inept, a bit dishonest, and would be >the model for every civic politician if it weren't for the fact that he's also likable! Manx is at once a politician and a parody of a politician. That's why the character works so well. Yet another stroke of genius. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Nov 27 20:49:34 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA04287 for kats-ll; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:28:48 -0500 Received: from you.got.net (you.got.net [205.199.112.9]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA04282 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:28:46 -0500 Received: from lsetnor (lsetnor.got.net [205.199.119.206]) by you.got.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA30371 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 18:48:39 -0800 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 18:48:39 -0800 Message-Id: <199511280248.SAA30371@you.got.net> X-Sender: lsetnor@mail.got.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: lsetnor@got.net (Leslie Setnor) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>OTOH she _does_ have such wonderfully thick hair :) > > The typical Japanese stereotype of kats and people IS, in >fact, huge hair, and large eyes. SWAT Kats Dosn't show this >as much, because it has an unfortionate American influence @@@@8) Ahem? Excuse me? Unfortunate? Karen Setnor lsetnor@got.net mcjd61b@prodigy.com From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Nov 27 23:26:25 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA14728 for kats-ll; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 23:11:43 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA14714 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 23:11:35 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.218] (dyn218.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.218]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA16367 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:12:55 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 23:08:54 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Here's a short story... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I have a question to ask, who is Brock Peters ? I know that he is the one who gives Dark Kat voice, but who is he ? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Nov 27 23:47:25 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA14734 for kats-ll; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 23:11:49 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA14715 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 23:11:37 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.218] (dyn218.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.218]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA16371 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:12:57 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 23:08:56 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>OTOH she _does_ have such wonderfully thick hair :) >> >> The typical Japanese stereotype of kats and people IS, in >>fact, huge hair, and large eyes. SWAT Kats Dosn't show this >>as much, because it has an unfortionate American influence @@@@8) > >Ahem? Excuse me? Unfortunate? > It's unfortunate, because Callie could be more cute if she was draw in a more anime way. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Nov 27 23:47:48 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA14729 for kats-ll; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 23:11:44 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA14712 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 23:11:33 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.218] (dyn218.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.218]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA16358 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:12:52 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 23:08:50 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>No, I think that it's probally "Deadly Pyramid" and "The Metalikats" > >Deadly Pyramid it is. I was thinking of the Pastmaster's flashbacks >to Callista. Her glasses also fall too in "The Metalikats", they fall when the Metalikats throw her at the wall, she put it back on when the Metalikats is busy with the "Mayor". >I haven't seen all the eps yet. So sue me :-) Me either, I have only seen 9 episode of the SwatKats. >>.>And there has to be something to keep them on, since as you well know her >>ears are farther up on her head >(a much nicer arrangement I >>might add :-) ) and the temple pieces pass below rather than over her >>ears. >> >>Maybe an upside down human glasses will work for her too, with a little >>modification of course. :-) > >That won't work, because gravity would still tend to pull them >downwards. Yes, you maybe right, her ears are too far to the top anyway. >>>Perhaps it's springiness in them. >> >>Of course it have to be a strong spring to clam on her head, and a strong >>spring aren't comfortable to wear unless you have a thick hair (Of course >>that isn't really a big problem :-) ). > >That's probably it. I had thought that kats might wear glasses with >straps, like goggles, but when Callie dropped her glasses that >stopped working. Yes, that maybe the best logical solution, maybe her glasses work just like Geordi "ST:TNG" La Forge visor. >>Excuse me, but what is a "menaced" ? sorry about that, but my english >>aren't that good. > >Menaced = threatened, imperiled, placed in danger, that sort of >thing. About to have bad things happen to :) Oh, if I may put in another way, she always get in trouble everywhere expect in her home, am I right ? (Home is the best shelter you can get, and in Callie case, it's TRUE !) >Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Nov 28 00:05:38 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA14739 for kats-ll; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 23:11:52 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA14710 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 23:11:32 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.218] (dyn218.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.218]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA16335 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:12:43 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 23:08:43 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >To me, I think Callie would be of an age roughly between the two Kat guys Yes, but it seems that their age is depend who is guessing them. ;-) >(most of us seem to agree that T-Bone is older than Razor). No argument here. :-) >>Magic ? Hmmm......, cartoon magic perhaps ? Is it the same magic that make >>the TurboKat could load all the SwatKats mini vehicle ? > >Heh. Those are questions we've learned not to ask! "Cartoon Physics" is a >couple of words that should *never* be seen together . Hmmm...Ok, everything can happen on SwatKats as long it looks cool, am I right ? :-) >>Just saw "Mutation City" today, and she looks great on those suit, it's too >>bad that the episode doesn't include more Callie. :-( > >I think I recall someone telling me that Callie was consciously utilized >less in the >second season than she was the first - in order to give Felina a chance in the >spotlight. Felina was actually conceived before the first ep of the >program was >even filmed, but her appearance was "postponed" in favour of Callie Briggs >for the first season. Yes, it isn't going to be fair for Felina if Callie stole all the audience attention. (BTW I read somewhere that Felina was originaly supposed to be SwatKats contacts, but after some disscusion the job was given to Callie, am I right ?) >>Then the name of her past counterpart must be Callista, and are the Briggs >>is with two "g"s or one "g" ? > >Two "g"'s - always! I wonder what the deal was with the significance of >"MegaLITH City" was in "Bride of the Pastmaster"? It always seemed rather >a strange choice to me. Maybe they needed a city to replace MegaKat city places. >>How does she get the SwatKats communicator ? > >It isn't shown anywhere that I can recall, but the Kat guys gave Callie the >communicator before we see them in any episodes. Strangely, "Razor" is >played by the same voice-actor that does "Donatello" in the Ninja Turtles >cartoon - with *that* character giving a communicator to April O'Neil in >much the same fashion as Razor must have to Callie. Barry Gordon must >really like being cast as a gadget-whiz with a penchant for giving away his >toys to lovely ladies! Maybe it's a new Radical way to get a date if you ask me. :-) (I was a bit suprised when I saw Callie using her communicator, the TMNT and SwatKats communicator paralel are too big to go unnoticed) >>Are Konway got more part besides "Mutation City" ? It's seems that he just >>play a little part in "Mutation City". > >The bragging rights actually belong to the lists' own Doctor Conway, on which >"Doc Konway" was directly modelled, but the character does not appear in any >other episodes or unused scripts that I'm aware of. Our Doc Conway wrote a >great fan-letter to the show early on in the run, and the Tremblay Bros wrote >back and turned him in to a character (and sent him a drawing!) for "Mutation >City" (which was itself an idea of the Tremblays). One of the other list gang >was offered "character" status, but the series was nixed before he could take >'em up on it. Do you mean that Doc Konway was modeled after a real person ? and he's on this list ? Sorry Conway but I'm new on this list, so that mean I don't know about you and this transformation. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Nov 28 01:08:01 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA19239 for kats-ll; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 00:44:56 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA19231 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 00:44:52 -0500 Received: from d153.infoserve.net (d150.infoserve.net [199.175.157.150]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA22592 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:46:45 -0800 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:46:45 -0800 Message-Id: <199511280546.VAA22592@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>>OTOH she _does_ have such wonderfully thick hair :) >>> >>> The typical Japanese stereotype of kats and people IS, in >>>fact, huge hair, and large eyes. SWAT Kats Dosn't show this >>>as much, because it has an unfortionate American influence @@@@8) >> >>Ahem? Excuse me? Unfortunate? >> > >It's unfortunate, because Callie could be more cute if she was draw in a >more anime way. Eyaaahh...I dunno. Felina is drawn "in a more Anime way" (with the familiar cat-ears and button nose), but I find each to be kinda cute in her own way just as they are. Unless you mean Anime-ish along the lines of Jungle Taisei or Astroboy? _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Nov 28 01:17:44 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA19181 for kats-ll; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 00:41:53 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA19176 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 00:41:49 -0500 Received: from d153.infoserve.net (d150.infoserve.net [199.175.157.150]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA22472 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:43:39 -0800 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:43:39 -0800 Message-Id: <199511280543.VAA22472@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>To me, I think Callie would be of an age roughly between the two Kat guys > >Yes, but it seems that their age is depend who is guessing them. ;-) Heh! Good point...I'm 30 myself, but a fairly good guesser for the most part. >Hmmm...Ok, everything can happen on SwatKats as long it looks cool, am I >right ? :-) Bingo!!! Actually, this came up during a concept session for "Caverns of Horror". See, initially the show was going to be the first Kats two-parter before it was "revised" by the executive types. Christian Tremblay and his brother worked out a neat scene of the T-Bone flying the Turbokat through the caverns weaving in and out of the stalactites etc. before the execs said "nah...you could never fly a jet down there", two which Christain said something like "yeah, but it _looks_ cool...". The early version of "Caverns" had Razor and T-Bone camping overnight underground at the point where they were unable to fly the TurboKat any further due to the lack of maneuvering room. The next day they were to proceed on the cycles or something, but would've been attacked in the middle of the night by some kind of nasties. One scene kinda remains though: when the Monster-du-jour attaches itself to the canopy of the Turbokat, I think they do some kind of "Speed of Heat" move to nix it. In the original storyboard for that same scene, the creepy breaks through the cockpit perspex above Razor, and Razor fires the Glovatrix at short range into it's mouth with the exclamation "Eat This!". Too bad it got blitzed - that scene would've been cool, but Mark Lungo probably would've given it a "D" as a direct result! >Yes, it isn't going to be fair for Felina if Callie stole all the audience >attention. (BTW I read somewhere that Felina was originaly supposed to be >SwatKats contacts, but after some disscusion the job was given to Callie, >am I right ?) In the first part of the "Animato!" article, there is written something similar to what's said here. Callie/Felina was first envisioned as a "Policewoman"...but then again, T-Bone was nearly called "Doomsday"! >Do you mean that Doc Konway was modeled after a real person ? and he's on >this list ? Sorry Conway but I'm new on this list, so that mean I don't >know about you and this transformation. I was kinda hoping he'd jump in himself, but allow me to be Mr. Exposition. The guy who "Doc Konway" is modelled after is Dr. Samuel Conway, and yes, he's a member of the list (though apparently rather wrapped up in a Mime class or something lately). I think my favourite quote of his is something along the lines of "bring on the Giant Monsters! More Monsters!". Must be a Godzilla fan too. _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Nov 28 01:23:56 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA20463 for kats-ll; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 00:51:37 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA20448 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 00:51:32 -0500 Received: from d153.infoserve.net (d150.infoserve.net [199.175.157.150]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA23116 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:53:21 -0800 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:53:21 -0800 Message-Id: <199511280553.VAA23116@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Actually, the deputy mayor does all the work, while the mayor gets >all the credit. Sorta the working model for the entire Turner Organization... >Callie will have the job, but only until the next election. She's a >hard worker, and does a great job of keeping things running, but >she's clearly no politician, and wouldn't stand a chance of getting >elected. Sad but true. Callie's cool for delivering lines like the one she zinged at Rexx Shard after his "What's the matter? I thought Diamonds were a Girl's Best Friend!" line. Her reply: "I don't like the setting!" Heh. She's direct, doesn't sugar-coat everything, but is unmistakably honest and forthright as a result. Politicians have to do a lot of handshakes and baby-kissing; neither of which is up Callie's particular street...that's what Manx is there for. I'm sure that their particular "understanding" is mimicked in thousands of City Halls across the world. >Manx is at once a politician and a parody of a politician. That's >why the character works so well. Yet another stroke of genius. Yup. Callie is one of the "behind the scenes people" that pull the strings which make things happen. Manx is just the puppet on stage; he's all you see, but doesn't really control his own destiny to any degree! _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Nov 28 07:16:32 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id GAA09657 for kats-ll; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 06:52:52 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id GAA09640 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 06:52:35 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.174] (dyn174.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.174]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA00360 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 18:53:26 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 06:49:25 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: How many vehicle does the SwatKats has ? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Let's talk about what kind of vehicle the SwatKats have. The TurboKat, appearing on every episode of the SwatKats. Jetski, appearing on "Mutation City". A Dragster car which also the TurboKat middle jet engine, appearing on "The Bride of Pastmaster". Motorcycle, appearing on "Razor Edge", and "Deadly Pyramid". The ThunderTruck, appearing on "When strikes Mutilor" and also show some of its interior on "A bright and shiny future". Does anybody want to correct and add to this SwatKats vehicle collection list ? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Nov 28 07:32:47 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id GAA09651 for kats-ll; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 06:52:50 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id GAA09641 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 06:52:39 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.174] (dyn174.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.174]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA00387 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 18:53:43 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 06:49:42 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>How old is she ? IMHO I personaly think that she are much older > >I suspect Razor's 24 (In my Midnight Magic 2, he turns 25, though) I agree with you on this. > Callie's 25 Yes I agree on this on "The Metalikats" episode, but is hard to believe that someone that old could quickly become a Deputy Mayor, although Manx maybe doesn't care about age. :-) (My age calculation went wild when I saw her at "Mutation City", she looks like in her early 30's on that episode) > and T-bone's 26 I agree with you on this too. PS: Maybe we aren't suppose to talk about Calllie age, after all it isn't very polite to talk about a Lady age. ;-) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Nov 28 07:41:54 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id GAA09635 for kats-ll; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 06:52:33 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id GAA09627 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 06:52:21 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.174] (dyn174.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.174]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA00377 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 18:53:38 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 06:49:37 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>>>OTOH she _does_ have such wonderfully thick hair :) >>>> >>>> The typical Japanese stereotype of kats and people IS, in >>>>fact, huge hair, and large eyes. SWAT Kats Dosn't show this >>>>as much, because it has an unfortionate American influence @@@@8) > >Eyaaahh...I dunno. Felina is drawn "in a more Anime way" (with the familiar >cat-ears and button nose), but I find each to be kinda cute in her own way just >as they are. Unless you mean Anime-ish along the lines of Jungle Taisei or >Astroboy? Yes, you maybe right, after all Callie and Felina does looks cute on their own special ways. BTW cute is depends on the way you look at things. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Nov 28 07:43:56 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id GAA09668 for kats-ll; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 06:53:04 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id GAA09656 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 06:52:52 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.174] (dyn174.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.174]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA00372 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 18:53:35 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 06:49:34 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Yes, but it seems that their age is depend who is guessing them. ;-) > >Heh! Good point...I'm 30 myself, but a fairly good guesser for the most part. 30 years old, and still watching cartoons. :-) (Maybe her age will remain a mystery next to her house and glasses) >>Hmmm...Ok, everything can happen on SwatKats as long it looks cool, am I >>right ? :-) (Stuff about cool but unbelieveable things are deleted to reduced this message) My science part refusing to believes that the TurboKat can actualy do a VTOL flight, but the cartoon part believes it. :-) >>Yes, it isn't going to be fair for Felina if Callie stole all the audience >>attention. (BTW I read somewhere that Felina was originaly supposed to be >>SwatKats contacts, but after some disscusion the job was given to Callie, >>am I right ?) > >In the first part of the "Animato!" article, there is written something >similar to what's >said here. Callie/Felina was first envisioned as a "Policewoman"...but >then again, T-Bone >was nearly called "Doomsday"! Yes, I read it on Animato, and do you mean that Felina and Callie originaly was designed as one Kat ? Maybe the concept of an Enforcer becoming a contacts of a bunch of vigilantes isn't going to fit in. BTW aren't "Doomsday" is the callsign of one of your fellow wingman on Wing Commander ? >>Do you mean that Doc Konway was modeled after a real person ? and he's on >>this list ? Sorry Conway but I'm new on this list, so that mean I don't >>know about you and this transformation. > >I was kinda hoping he'd jump in himself, but allow me to be Mr. >Exposition. The guy who >"Doc Konway" is modelled after is Dr. Samuel Conway, and yes, he's a >member of the list >(though apparently rather wrapped up in a Mime class or something lately). >I think my >favourite quote of his is something along the lines of "bring on the Giant >Monsters! More >Monsters!". Must be a Godzilla fan too. It seems that his passion for Godzilla was realized on "Mutation City" when doctor Viper turns into a giant. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Nov 28 10:34:10 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA23260 for kats-ll; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:14:44 -0500 Received: from fsac5.pica.army.mil (fsac5.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.100]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA23255 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:14:41 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 95 10:13:27 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Message-ID: <9511281013.aa17699@fsac5.Pica.Army.Mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>OTOH she _does_ have such wonderfully thick hair :) >> >> The typical Japanese stereotype of kats and people IS, in >>fact, huge hair, and large eyes. SWAT Kats Dosn't show this >>as much, because it has an unfortionate American influence @@@@8) > >Ahem? Excuse me? Unfortunate? _Some_ anime fans are animation bigots, looking down with disdain upon non-Japanese animation. Pay it no mind. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Nov 28 10:44:52 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA23019 for kats-ll; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:09:58 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA23013 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:09:54 -0500 Received: from d143.infoserve.net (d143.infoserve.net [199.175.157.143]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA13204 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:12:01 -0800 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:12:01 -0800 Message-Id: <199511281512.HAA13204@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> Seems to me that he's one notch below Feral. Feral outwardly dislikes the >> guys 'cause they always make him look bad (and how would it look for the >> Enforcer Commander to endorse a couple of vigilantes?) But inwardly, he >> likes what they're doing (it's rather obvious.) However, Steele shows his >> dislike of the guys to play on Feral's conscience and promote his own >> career. Steele doesn't show *any* good feelings towards the guys. > > Feral really does like the Kat guys. He just doesn't show it >because it would make any commander look bad, as said above. Check out >"Katastrophe". I really like both the Steel and Commander Feral character (hence their extensive parts in my "SwatKats Unmasked" thing I guess). A lot of us already know this, but here it is again for the newer folks anyway. Lance Falk (one of the H-B design team members responsible for much of the Kats) also really liked the character of Commander Feral. As noted in the "Animato!" article, he felt the scene at the end of "Metal Urgency" with Feral was the most important thing in that particular episode, and what he considered his best character writing for the entire series. He felt that Feral had a set of rules that even he himself would never break, and the "Urgency" bit demonstrated that ably. Lance actually wrote "Cry Turmoil" with Feral in the role eventually occupied by T-Bone - as he felt that Feral could be persuaded to ally himself with Turmoil as "a basically good-guy who could be capable of bad things given the right circumstances". The execs at H-B shot down the version of "Turmoil" with Feral, and not only forced Lance to re-write it in favour of T-Bone ("Lance...the show's about the Kat-guys. Don't overdevelop the supporting cast..."), but truncated it to 11 minutes instead of the planned 22! I felt that Feral knew who the Kat guys were, but wouldn't be morally "forced" to do anything about it unless he was faced with the kind of unavoidable "evidence" that the Metallikats would've furnished by revealing the info to Feral in exchange for their lives. I imagine Falk had Feral grease them in that script because Feral knew the Kats, despite being "lawless vigilante scum", were actually performing a useful task for the citizens of MegaKat city that he himself could not (being bound as he is by the "letter" of the law). Feral would've finally had his showcase episode in the form of "The Curse of Cataluna"; one of the episodes scripted for the second season but never animated. _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Nov 28 13:20:57 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA05818 for kats-ll; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:59:47 -0500 Received: from netman.iscs.nus.sg (root@[137.132.87.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA05813 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:59:43 -0500 Received: from sununx.iscs.nus.sg (leetwail) by netman.iscs.nus.sg with SMTP id AA18702 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for kats@bort.mv.net); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 01:58:25 +0800 Received: (from leetwail@localhost) by sununx.iscs.nus.sg (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA23220; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 01:58:22 +0800 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 01:58:21 +0800 (GMT-8) From: Leet Wai Leong Simon To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: How many vehicle does the SwatKats has ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Edo Andromedo wrote: > Let's talk about what kind of vehicle the SwatKats have. > > The TurboKat, appearing on every episode of the SwatKats. > Jetski, appearing on "Mutation City". > A Dragster car which also the TurboKat middle jet engine, appearing on "The > Bride of Pastmaster". > Motorcycle, appearing on "Razor Edge", and "Deadly Pyramid". > The ThunderTruck, appearing on "When strikes Mutilor" and also show some of > its interior on "A bright and shiny future". > > Does anybody want to correct and add to this SwatKats vehicle collection list ? > > I believe Razor tells Callie to keep the SandKat (looks like a slightly modified Cyclotron really ...) if they don't return in "Chaos in Crystal". From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Nov 28 17:55:29 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA24617 for kats-ll; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:38:03 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA24608 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:38:01 -0500 Received: from net-1-140.austin.eden.com (net-1-140.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.140]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.1.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA05140 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:37:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:37:52 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199511282237.QAA05140@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: How many vehicle does the SwatKats has ? X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Motorcycle, appearing on "Razor Edge", and "Deadly Pyramid". Actually, the cycletron (I think that's how it's spelled) appeared a lot in the first season. (Like "Katastrophe", the first season's finale.) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Nov 28 18:03:40 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA24403 for kats-ll; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:29:14 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA24398 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:29:11 -0500 Received: from net-1-140.austin.eden.com (net-1-140.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.140]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.1.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA04390 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:29:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:29:06 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199511282229.QAA04390@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Razor's Nemisis X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net 'Lo all you fanatic fans out there. My friend Courtney has finished "Razor's Nemisis. It's kinda long, so it might be a while before you see it on the kats fanfic site. I will satrt sending them to the Rat today, but don't hold your breath. Courtney doesn't have a computer, so I hafata TYPE the whole damn thing out. (really mournful and pained face right here.) I know I said co-authored, but I DID add some of my own touches. 'kay bye. Terra From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 29 09:59:25 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA22042 for kats-ll; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:55:47 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA22037 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:55:38 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.162] (dyn162.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.162]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA16079 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 21:56:47 +0700 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:52:48 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Question about the Deputy Mayor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>> The typical Japanese stereotype of kats and people IS, in >>>fact, huge hair, and large eyes. SWAT Kats Dosn't show this >>>as much, because it has an unfortionate American influence @@@@8) >> >>Ahem? Excuse me? Unfortunate? > >_Some_ anime fans are animation bigots, looking down with disdain >upon non-Japanese animation. Pay it no mind. Yes, some people does that sometimes. (Of course I take any animation that I can watch, I don't care where they come from, as along it's good :-) ) >Ed Ok, now that the animation warfare is ending, let's we talk about Callie and Felina, which episode that you think that they give their best perfomance ? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 29 17:36:18 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA22975 for kats-ll; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:15:25 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA22966 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:15:20 -0500 Received: from net-1-199.austin.eden.com (net-1-199.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.199]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.1.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA22628 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:14:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:14:58 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199511292214.QAA22628@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Introducing a new member X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hi. It's me again. My friend Courtney Farris (who wrote Razor's Nemisis, which I am TRYING to transfer into the computer.) wants to join our group. She has AOL, but it's so old she can't get into Netscape.:( She (and I) were wondering if she could become an honarary member of our newsgroup? She REALLY likes the Swat Kats, and since she has more time than I do, she will be contributing to the story site a great deal. I will have to transfer them to the computer and send them to Rat. Anyhoo, is that alright? Chance? Anyone? Is this okay? 'kay bye. Terra From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 29 18:19:34 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA25814 for kats-ll; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:57:59 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA25809 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:57:57 -0500 Received: from net-1-199.austin.eden.com (net-1-172.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.172]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.1.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA25385 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:57:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:57:54 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199511292257.QAA25385@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: This isn't really for the list, but.... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Sorry about this. I lost Ryans Kelly'e e-mail address. I need to tell him something and I lost it. Sorry. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 29 18:30:53 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA27363 for kats-ll; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 18:11:04 -0500 Received: from dir1.ulst.ac.uk (dir1.ulst.ac.uk [193.61.189.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA27356 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 18:11:00 -0500 From: C.Carter@ulst.ac.uk Received: from mgvax.ulst.ac.uk (mgvax.ulst.ac.uk [193.61.189.3]) by dir1.ulst.ac.uk (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA20691 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 23:14:19 GMT Received: by mgvax.ulst.ac.uk (MX V4.1 VAX) id 154; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 23:09:30 GMT Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 23:09:29 GMT To: kats@bort.mv.net Message-ID: <0099A238.32E58020.154@mgvax.ulst.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Introducing a new member Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Sorry, this may be a silly question, but where does Netscape come into it? Surely having e-mail is enough to join the list? Anyway, I don't know about anyone else, but any Kat fan should surely be welcome, e-mail or not! Anyway, seeya! Ben Carter (c.carter@ulst.ac.uk) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Nov 29 18:49:46 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA28291 for kats-ll; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 18:38:30 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA28286 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 18:38:27 -0500 Received: from net-1-199.austin.eden.com (net-1-172.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.172]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.1.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id RAA28034 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:38:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:38:21 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199511292338.RAA28034@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: RE: Introducing a new member X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Sorry, this may be a silly question, but where does Netscape come into it? >Surely having e-mail is enough to join the list? Anyway, I don't know about >anyone else, but any Kat fan should surely be welcome, e-mail or not! The thing is, her e-mail is BUST!!! (that could be a problem, now WOULDN'T it??? anyway, she wants to join the NEWSGROUP as well. (and send stuff to rat, and look at the pwetty pictures and so on and so on and so on....) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Nov 30 00:48:02 1995 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA21331 for kats-ll; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 00:41:10 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA21326 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 00:41:07 -0500 Received: from d149.infoserve.net (d149.infoserve.net [199.175.157.149]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA17525 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 21:42:02 -0800 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 21:42:02 -0800 Message-Id: <199511300542.VAA17525@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: RE: Introducing a new member Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Sorry, this may be a silly question, but where does Netscape come into it? >>Surely having e-mail is enough to join the list? Anyway, I don't know about >>anyone else, but any Kat fan should surely be welcome, e-mail or not! > >The thing is, her e-mail is BUST!!! (that could be a problem, now WOULDN'T it??? >anyway, she wants to join the NEWSGROUP as well. (and send stuff to rat, and >look at the pwetty pictures and so on and so on and so on....) AAAAARRRGGGHHH! E-mail me, e-mail Rat, e-mail SOMEONE to ask these questions - but not sixty-seven someones! Drop me a line in mail and we'll try and sort out her access. I might as well use this for an added administrative type note. For the lurkers who may have long since forgotten how to send posts to the list, please save the following on your hard-drive, piece of paper, stone tablet, whatever: Where you normally write the address of the person you write to, put "kats@lists.mv.net" beside the "To:" instead. The "Subject" can be anything (on-topic!) you like, as can the body of the message. Anything Kats-related is fair game, and certain digressions concerning H-B/Turner (probably because I'm responsible for most of 'em) where they relate to Kats etc will be tolerated until someone says "uncle" (Felina says "Uncle", hmmm.....). I think Christian Tremblay's been trying to call me (so I'm told), and I think it's to tell me that he hasn't received a ton of entries yet. I know some of us missed the post the first time around and/or live in far-off lands, so I'm going to try and get him to postpone the draw until the fifth or so - just so the stragglers can make it into the bag for a shot at it as well. He'll likely tell me who the winner is, and unless I've been expressly told not to post it, I'll let everyone know. Later. (Oh, BTW - don't start a round-table on this, but if you want to check out a great flick, don't miss "Toy Story". Damn fine.) _____________________________________________________________ SwatKats fans: Series' creators holding free Draw for Original Art! Send a postcard (or even an empty envelope) with your name and return address to: SWATKATS DRAW, 15460 Sherman Way #1-310, Van Nuys CA, USA 91406. (Draw closes Dec. 1st, 1995. BIGSIG copyright Ricky Foltz) _____________________________________________________________