From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sun Apr 2 09:21:25 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id JAA11844 for sonic-ll; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 09:21:05 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id JAA11839 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 09:21:03 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) id JAA22957; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 09:26:06 -0400 Message-Id: <199504021326.JAA22957@use.usit.net> Date: Sun, 02 Apr 95 09:25:32 EDT From: (Erich Schulman KTN4CA Team OS/2) To: sonic@sard.mv.net X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.05 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Sonic list archives Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Archives of the Sonic mailing list for February and March are now available for ftp. The filenames are soni0295.zip and soni0395.zip, and can be found on ftp.mv.com at /pub/users/rat/sonic/message-archive. Don't forget to use Binary or Image transfer mode. Each .zip is about 450K and expands to about 1100K. Archives of the current month (April) can, as always, be retrieved through the mailing list software. See the Sonic "How-To" file for instructions. If you use a Unix system, you can load all of the archive files as a mailbox folder for convenient browsing with pine or elm. |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| | A! JW2 WAR++ PI~ BR+i SL++++i SK+++ RI++^ RU+ GDF BU+ MI- MM KK-- | | P++ D $++ E59 Ee5 Eee35 TRita Ay68 M | | "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog | |-- A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! ------------------------------| From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sun Apr 2 09:21:25 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id JAA11851 for sonic-ll; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 09:21:09 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id JAA11846 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 09:21:08 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) id JAA22964; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 09:26:10 -0400 Message-Id: <199504021326.JAA22964@use.usit.net> Date: Sun, 02 Apr 95 09:29:37 EDT From: (Erich Schulman KTN4CA Team OS/2) To: sonic@sard.mv.net X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.05 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Sonic "How-To" Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net SONIC "HOW-TO" (7 February 1995) -------------------------------- This document contains information on things you might want to do with the software behind the Sonic mailing list. It will be reposted from time to time. Please read and save for future reference. All mail messages described in this document should be sent to majordomo@sard.mv.net. The subject line is ignored, but you might want to use the subject for your reference. The command "end" (but without the quotes) should be on its own line at the end of your mail message. A sample message appears at the end of this document. HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE / CANCEL --------------------------- Send this text in your message: unsubscribe sonic HOW TO GET A LIST OF FILES YOU CAN RETRIEVE ------------------------------------------- Send this text in your message: index sonic HOW TO GET A RETRIEVABLE FILE ----------------------------- Send this text in your message: get sonic filename.txt (Change filename.txt to the correct name of the file you want sent to you.) HOW TO REVIEW THE WELCOME / INTRODUCTORY TEXT --------------------------------------------- Send this text in your message: info sonic HOW TO LEARN ABOUT OTHER COMMANDS YOU CAN USE --------------------------------------------- Send this text in your message: help SAMPLE MESSAGE -------------- Your screens and software will differ from this example. This sample is intended to show a valid command message for the mailing list software. Contact your system administrator or his/her designated assistant if you need further help sending the mail message. > mail ? send _Send mail to? majordomo@sard.mv.net _Subject? Sample information request Enter your message below, /exit to end. help get sonic file1.txt get sonic file2.txt index sonic end /exit _Send this message now (Y/N)? y Sending mail to majordomo@sard.mv.net... ? quit > We are doing three things in this message. First, we are asking for a list of commands. The list software offers more commands than there are listed here. Next, we're asking for two files, one is file1.txt and the other is file2.txt. Finally, we are asking for a list of files we can get, just in case there might be more files that would interest us. The "end" command on the following command tells the list software not to expect any more commands in this message. The list software will send a reply with the information we requested. |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| | A! JW2 WAR++ PI~ BR+i SL++++i SK+++ RI++^ RU+ GDF BU+ MI- MM KK-- | | P++ D $++ E59 Ee5 Eee35 TRita Ay68 M | | "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog | |-- A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! ------------------------------| From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sun Apr 2 12:55:41 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA12193 for sonic-ll; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 12:55:34 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA12187; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 12:55:32 -0400 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 12:42:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman Subject: IMPORTANT Re: Sonic list archives To: sonic@sard.mv.net In-Reply-To: <199504021326.JAA22957@use.usit.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net If you are planning on downloading those message archive zips, this is important, otherwise you don't have to read.. On Sun, 2 Apr 1995, it was written: > Archives of the Sonic mailing list for February and March are now > available for ftp. The filenames are soni0295.zip and soni0395.zip, > and can be found on ftp.mv.com at /pub/users/rat/sonic/message-archive. > Don't forget to use Binary or Image transfer mode. Each .zip is > about 450K and expands to about 1100K. I tested them by downloading, and realized they were UNIX textfiles. I translated them, and rezipped them (they were zipped with the old zip) and now they are about 350K zipped. > If you use a Unix system, you can load all of the archive files as a > mailbox folder for convenient browsing with pine or elm. I have some good news for Eudora users. You can load any mail file as a mailbox for easy viewing. I tried this with the sonic mail file, and it works just great. Write me if anyone wants to know how. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work: paul@mv.mv.com | Play: rat@rat.mv.com WWW : http://www.mv.com/users/rat | FTP : ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat AOL : PaulHurley | CIS : 75014,77 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 3 14:22:56 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA17648 for sonic-ll; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:22:15 -0400 Received: from mailhost.primenet.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA17642 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:22:12 -0400 Received: from usr1.primenet.com (usr1.primenet.com [198.68.32.11]) by mailhost.primenet.com (8.6.11/wjp-h2.0) with ESMTP id LAA15065 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:33:24 -0700 Received: (rotor@localhost) by usr1.primenet.com (8.6.11/wjp-c2.0) id LAA07152; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:33:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:33:22 -0700 (MST) From: "David M. Pistone" To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Site Changes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Greetings all! The following changes to my FTP and WWW sites will be effective as of 6pm MST on Tuesday, April 4, 1995: FTP changes: My FTP site will NO LONGER be a place to download ANY material. From this point forward it is being maintained as a directory where people can go to get specific files that they have requested from me through private E-mail. This will be it's ONLY function. WWW changes: Dan Drazen's epic, 12-part Sonic adventure, "Bloodlines" will be made available on my stories page as of the above time and date. The highly controversial "cc-" Sonic pics will also be made available. Due to various factors, however, they will not be visibly listed on my pages. To access them, add the filename, "cc.html" at the end of my WWW site address. Also, a limited number of screen shots from the SatAM TV series will also be posted. A public thanx to Craig Moore for providing me with these pictures. The above changes will be slowly taking place over the next 24 hours and will be finished by the above time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "What do you get when you cross a lawyer with a godfather?" "You get an offer you can't understand." --David Pistone's distinguished collection of dumb lawyer jokes David M. Pistone -- rotor@primenet.com __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ ftp.primenet.com/users/r/rotor /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / http://www.primenet.com/~rotor / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ / ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 3 14:23:53 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA17701 for sonic-ll; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:23:53 -0400 Received: from mailhost.primenet.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA17695 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:23:51 -0400 Received: from usr1.primenet.com (usr1.primenet.com [198.68.32.11]) by mailhost.primenet.com (8.6.11/wjp-h2.0) with ESMTP id LAA15415 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:35:03 -0700 Received: (rotor@localhost) by usr1.primenet.com (8.6.11/wjp-c2.0) id LAA07221; Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:35:02 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:35:02 -0700 (MST) From: "David M. Pistone" To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Site Changes (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Greetings all! The following changes to my FTP and WWW sites will be effective as of 6pm MST on Tuesday, April 4, 1995: FTP changes: My FTP site will NO LONGER be a place to download ANY material. From this point forward it is being maintained as a directory where people can go to get specific files that they have requested from me through private E-mail. This will be it's ONLY function. WWW changes: Dan Drazen's epic, 12-part Sonic adventure, "Bloodlines" will be made available on my stories page as of the above time and date. The highly controversial "cc-" Sonic pics will also be made available. Due to various factors, however, they will not be visibly listed on my pages. To access them, add the filename, "cc.html" at the end of my WWW site address. Also, a limited number of screen shots from the SatAM TV series will also be posted. A public thanx to Craig Moore for providing me with these pictures. The above changes will be slowly taking place over the next 24 hours and will be finished by the above time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "What do you get when you cross a lawyer with a godfather?" "You get an offer you can't understand." --David Pistone's distinguished collection of dumb lawyer jokes David M. Pistone -- rotor@primenet.com __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ ftp.primenet.com/users/r/rotor /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / http://www.primenet.com/~rotor / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ / ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 4 11:10:30 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id LAA01976 for sonic-ll; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:10:07 -0400 Received: from smtp.utexas.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id LAA01971 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:10:05 -0400 Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by smtp.utexas.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA25168 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 10:18:09 -0500 Received: from slip-20-11.ots.utexas.edu (slip-20-11.ots.utexas.edu [128.83.111.155]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA27490 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 10:16:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199504041516.KAA27490@mail.utexas.edu> X-Sender: n5una@mail.utexas.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 10:16:19 -0500 To: sonic@sard.mv.net From: n5una@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU (Shawn Wolski) Subject: N5UNA's Virtual Domain Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Hi guys! I spent all last weekend redesigning my web page, making icons, and nearly pulling my hair out. But it's there, and has much more than it did last week. Check it out! In relation to my personal web page, I'm looking for others who have personal pages dedicated to Sonic Hedgehog (besides Rotor and Ratman, I have them already). Please e-mail me the URL if you want to have some more public exposure for the blue high-velocity Freedom Fighter. I'm also looking for some Freedom Fighter pictures that I might be able to use in my web page. Above all, tell me what you think of my contribution to our blue friend! ________________________________________________________________ Shawn Wolski, N5UNA An Indoctrinated Sonic T. Hedgehog Story Author "But I guess some things are better left in the past." -Sally, quote from "The Temporal Syndrome" n5una@mail.utexas.edu and my under construction home page: http://wwwvms.utexas.edu/~n5una/index.html _______________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 4 11:24:27 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id LAA02193 for sonic-ll; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:24:23 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id LAA02187; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:24:21 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:23:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman Subject: Re: N5UNA's Virtual Domain To: sonic@sard.mv.net In-Reply-To: <199504041516.KAA27490@mail.utexas.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Tue, 4 Apr 1995, Shawn Wolski wrote: > In relation to my personal web page, I'm looking for others who have > personal pages dedicated to Sonic Hedgehog (besides Rotor and > Ratman, I have them already). I have an ftp directory dedicated to sonic. No web page. I have a web page, but no sonic on it. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work: paul@mv.mv.com | Play: rat@rat.mv.com WWW : http://www.mv.com/users/rat | FTP : ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat AOL : PaulHurley | CIS : 75014,77 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 4 22:34:51 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA06435 for sonic-ll; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 22:34:35 -0400 Received: from ns2.ac.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA06430 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 22:34:33 -0400 Received: from jaguar.ac.edu by ns2.ac.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00290; Tue, 4 Apr 95 22:51:14 EDT Received: by jaguar.ac.edu (wcGATE v4) id 39221W Wed, 5 Apr 1995 01:31:57 GMT From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) Subject: Just a bit uncertain... Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 22:56:38 GMT Message-Id: <95040421315722232@jaguar.ac.edu> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA To: sonic@sard.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net I'm a bit uncertain. I getmy Email on -- get this-- a dial-in to a Wildcat bbs that can access the internet. Now, when I see an interesting mail message come across on the newsgroup, I'm not certain if I can reply directly-- since the messages all come from other sites than sard.mv.net. Anyone know if I have to forward any replies, or can I just reply to the message, expecting it to get to sard? OOT: I finally gotm STH:The Comic #s 21-23, and PS is easily one of the best artists that they've gotten so far. I'm just waiting for his rendition of Bunnie. THAT's worth waiting for... Robert From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Wed Apr 5 02:00:37 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id CAA07580 for sonic-ll; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 02:00:28 -0400 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id CAA07575 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 02:00:25 -0400 From: BBlaze@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA165262287; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 02:11:27 -0400 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 02:11:27 -0400 Message-Id: <950405020843_72341510@aol.com> To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: The Void Revisited 1/2 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Here's my first post-Doomsday story. It ties up most loose ends that were left by my original, "Pangolin Problems." Enjoy. -B.B. "We don't take kindly to big ol' floatin' heads." -A Cowboy, Relaxation Tape No. 5 This short story is based on the characters created and copyrighted by Archie Comic Publications, DiC Productions, Holly-Beth Kraft, Sega Incorporated, and Shawn Wolski. The author gives his permission to distribute this work freely as long as it's distributed in its full, unaltered form and currency has nothing to do with the distribution. Any questions, comments, or protests can be addressed to the author. Copyright (C) 1995, Michael Szal. Timeline: Late 3236, almost a year after Doomsday. Reunion, Part 1 by Michael Szal (bblaze@aol.com) Williams was sitting in his chair, looking through some files when his train of thought was broken by his computer. "Incoming visual transmission," it reported. Why would anybody contact him? The only person who knows he's here is Sonic, but why now? The only other person who could contact him was...Adam! "Computer, answer it!" A hologram of a very familiar numbat appeared before him. "Adam!" "It seems you ARE alive," noticed Adam. "What happened? Why didn't you contact me before?" "It's a long story. Why didn't YOU contact me?" "I tried. You never answered. I assumed you were roboticized but couldn't find you. That left but one alternative: death." "Well, I kinda had my computer 'confiscated.' But, obviously, I got it back. You have NO idea what we went through to get out of this mess." "WE? You mean--" A familiar paca stepped into the display. "Kristen!" "I'm so happy to finally see you again!" she exclaimed. "Are you okay?" "Fine now. At one point I fell out of air duct. I don't remember exactly what happened, but Adam says I broke my leg." "You should've seen it!" Adam tried to describe the situation. "Thirty or forty foot drop, knocked unconscious, leg broken right in half, blood everywhere. We were being chased so I--" "Chased?" Williams thought that to be strange. "By who? I though Robotnik was gone." "Apparently some Swat-bots are still here. Anyway, we were being chased so I had to climb down and get her out of there. By the time I got there, the bleeding stopped. I picked her up and brought her to the safest place I could find. I just stuck the leg back in place and within two hours the entire thing was healed! Not even a scar!" "I'm sure you have many more stories that can wait. Where are you?" "We've set up camp outside of Robotropolis, or what's left." "I'll be right there. Just send me the--" "No, we'll meet you in Wespero. It'll be good to be back home." "Okay, but hurry." The transmission was discontinued. Williams continued his work as he waited. The door burst open and Kristen came running in. Williams barely had enough time to get out of his chair before she pounced on him. They fell to the ground and Williams got a minor bump on his head, but he couldn't feel it--he was too busy being kissed by Kristen. "I'm so glad to see you!" she finally stopped and got up. "I can tell," noticed Williams. Adam helped him up and they hugged each other as tight as ever. He patted Williams on the back. "You're alive." Williams sat back down. "Yes, we've established that." "After Robotnik singled you out, I though that was the end of you." "Nah, he just wanted to interrogate me. Nothing I couldn't handle. What's your story?" "The rest of us were either executed or roboticized, depending on how well we behaved. "They shot my mother," Kristen told him. "Right there, right in front of me. They just shot her." Williams knew what this meant. "Kristen? You okay?" "No!" She broke into tears. "They shot her!" She needed a shoulder to cry on and Williams was there for her. "What happened?" "A Swat-bot ordered her to cooperate, but she didn't." Adam explained it for Kristen. "She fought it, but lost." Williams started to laugh. He was the only one laughing. "I can't imagine Helen going up against a Swat-bot!" Kristen always wondered how he could just shake these things off. "C'mon, Kristen." Williams tried to remedy the situation. "Best friends are reunited after each one thought the other was dead. We're supposed to laugh at each other's anecdotes, not dwell on the morbid aspects of our adventures. Don't you see? WE are what's left of this village, WE survived, WE won. Don't you feel...special?" It took a while, but she eventually calmed down. "I guess you're right. You know, one time--" "I'm sure it's a great story, but there's no time. We're off to the Great Unknown." Williams began to pack up his things. "But we just got here," complained Adam. Williams ignored him. "I've found a way to open the void. We're going to test my theory." "Why in the Great Unknown?" "In case anything goes wrong, nothing important will be sucked in." "You're always so optimistic." "You coming?" Williams directed his question to Kristen who was sitting on his bed. "No, I--" she sniffled, "I'll stay here." "So," inquired Adam, "what now?" They were in the middle of nowhere. "Computer," ordered Williams, "open 'the void' about four hundred feet in front of me." It took a while, but soon a bright yellow and purple helix appeared in front of him. "You want to go in first?" he gave Adam the honor. "That's okay. You opened it, you go in." "I think I'll send some nanites in first." Before he could instruct his computer to do anything, a scaly, six legged, thirty foot tall, six inch teeth, razor sharp clawed, insect-like animal came out of the void first. "Well, now you've done it." "Maybe it's friendly." Williams started to walk toward it. It noticed the two appetizers and let out a roar in their direction. "Or not. Computer, close 'the void.'" It did. "Hellooooo!" he called. It roared back. "Doesn't seem to be all that intelligent," noticed Adam. "Computer," ordered Williams, "send out some nanites to stun the...uh...the creature and give me a progress report." "Nanites released," reported his computer. About a minute later, "Nanites have infected host." A few seconds later, "Nanites have been destroyed." It started to walk toward them. "Adam, I suggest we make a strategic retreat to Wespero." They both took off running. The creature chased after them. Although it could run fast (compared to most Mobian animals), it got tired quickly. There was too little carbon dioxide in the air. "You're never going to believe what happened," Williams said as he sat down on his bed. "A, uh, creature came through the void." "A 'creature?'" Kristen looked to Adam for some sort of confirmation. "Don't look at me. I'm not the one who conjured it up." "What does it look like?" "Well, I'd say it's a cross between a dragon and an ant." "I think it was hungry," added Williams, "it started to chase us. I tried to stun it with some nanites, but they were all destroyed before they could do anything. It must have a super immune system." "Where is it now?" asked Kristen. "Good question. Computer, where is the creature?" "Near the Great Forest." "Probably found something to eat," said Kristen. "Considering the size of its teeth, I think it's carnivorous," stated Williams. "Could be omnivorous," contributed Adam. "Whatever the case, it's not supposed to be here. We need to find a way to send it back or kill it." "It's not a computer, you can't control it. Nanites are useless, you can't kill it. This isn't going to be easy." "Then we get some help." Tails was on lookout, sweeping the horizon with his binoculars. He stopped and backed up, something caught his eye. It was far, far away. He switched to a higher magnification to take a closer look. There was a big rock sitting at the edge of the forest. It was strange to see a rock that was never there before, but even more strange to see it move. His eyes were not deceiving him--the rock moved. From past experience, he knew that rocks did not move on their own. He kept observing it. A head popped up. "Sooooonic! SOOOOONIC!!!" Sonic came racing up to meet him. "What is it, big guy?" Tails handed him the binoculars and pointed in the rock's general direction. Sonic saw what Tails had seen. "What's THAT?" "Keep watching." Sonic observed the rock a bit more and saw the head pop up for a moment, then back down. "I'm gonna check it out." And he did. In under ten seconds, he was standing in front of the rock. "Mondo weird." The creature heard him coming and turned to look at the tiny, blue animal. Its target was in range and it spit at him. Direct hit. "Hey!" Sonic was covered in a cloudy, sticky substance. The creature, however, was confused. Usually when it hits another animal, the animal gets stunned instantly, ready to eat. It roared at him. Sonic could see a vast array of sharp teeth. For a moment, he stood motionless. The creature snapped at him. Sonic jumped out of the way and left for Knothole. He had seen enough. "Sal!" He ran up in front of her. "Sal, there's something--" "A monster in the forest? Tails already told me." "It spit on me!" He wiped some off. "What is this stuff, anyway?" Sally reached down and detached Nicole from her boot. "Nicole," Sally flipped her open, "what is the substance that Sonic is covered in?" "Sugar saturated water." "What kind of an animal is this?" "A big one," replied Sonic. "I'd like to go see it." "Are you crazy!?! That thing's dangerous!" "Sonic, it spits sugar. How dangerous can it be?" Sonic shook himself off and took Sally to see the creature. She found out just how dangerous it could be when she was standing in front of it. She saw for herself how big its teeth and claws were. "Nicole, full scan on the creature." "Scanning..." "Keep it busy until Nicole's done," she told Sonic. Sonic ran around to the creature's head. It spat at him. He ran underneath it to its tail. It slashed at him with one of its feet. He ran around to its side. It turned to face him and snapped at him. Again he ran to one side. This time the creature, realizing what was going on, whacked Sally against a tree with its tail. The blow from the tail broke a couple of ribs and punctured a lung in the process. The tree gave her a nice-sized concussion, shattered a shoulder blade, and fractured a vertebra or two. Sonic immediately ran over, gathered up Sally and Nicole (which just made things worse for Sally, but was better than being eaten), and took off for Knothole. Sonic put Sally down on her bed and went to get Bookshire. He was in his hut. "Bookshire! Sally's hurt!" The tone of Sonic's voice was the most obvious signal that something was very wrong. The blood on him was a close second. He barely had enough time to grab his first aid kit before Sonic grabbed him and took him back to Sally's hut. "Oh, boy." This was a much bigger problem than Sonic led him to believe. He panicked, slightly, but remembered to stay calm. "There's a, uh, box of stuff on the table in the, um, far corner of my hut." Sonic was gone and in a few seconds came back with the box. Bookshire took it from him and put it down next to the bed. "Get someone to guard the door," ordered Bookshire as he removed certain items from his first aid kit and his box. "No one disturbs us until I say so." Sonic was gone again. It took him a little longer this time, but only because he had to explain to Rotor, the closest person, what was going on. Sonic came back in and closed the door behind him. He and Bookshire worked as fast as they could to keep Sally alive. Williams and company were now in the Great Forest, on their way to Knothole Village. "What's so special about this village?" He remembered what happened the last time he was there, "I have...friends there. They might be able to help." As they were walking, Sandra stepped out of nowhere and blocked their path. "You again," greeted Williams. "Who wants me now?" "No one. I need your help. I take it you've noticed the creature?" "Yeah," answered Kristen. "Who is this?" She sounded jealous. "We are...old acquaintances." "Oh, we're more than acquaintances." Williams smiled at her. She grabbed him by the neck and held him up to her face, "Will you help me?" "I'm already on my way to Knothole to find some help of my own." It was hard to talk, his voice was scratchy. "You're welcome to tag along." Normally, Sandra would not "tag along" with anybody, but this was different. She dropped him on the ground, "Lead the way." Tails had resumed his scan of the horizon before Sonic and Sally left to see the creature and was oblivious to the whole "Sally" incident. He was, however, the only one who could see Williams and his band of adventurers coming towards Knothole. He decided to meet them and escort them the rest of the way. "Williams!" called Tails. He landed in front of them. "Hey! Look who it is!" replied Williams. "A kid?" asked Adam. "Don't underestimate him. He just might be able to beat you in a net-war." "What!?! No way!" "If I remember correctly, Packbell once referred to him as the 'Supreme Emperor of All Time and Space.' After we take care of this creature, we might have a chance to find out who's better." Turning to Tails, "Anyway, where's the princess?" "YOU know the princess?" asked Kristen. "Yeah, but she hates me." Back to Tails, "So where is she?" "Follow me." He led the group the final distance to Knothole. ---To-Be-Continued---> From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Wed Apr 5 02:01:29 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id CAA07608 for sonic-ll; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 02:01:28 -0400 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id CAA07602 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 02:01:26 -0400 From: BBlaze@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA170442348; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 02:12:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 02:12:28 -0400 Message-Id: <950405021122_72343035@aol.com> To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: The Void Revisited 2/2 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net The rest of it. -B.B. "We don't take kindly to big ol' floatin' heads." -A Cowboy, Relaxation Tape No. 5 This short story is based on the characters created and copyrighted by Archie Comic Publications, DiC Productions, Holly-Beth Kraft, Sega Incorporated, and Shawn Wolski. The author gives his permission to distribute this work freely as long as it's distributed in its full, unaltered form and currency has nothing to do with the distribution. Any questions, comments, or protests can be addressed to the author. Copyright (C) 1995, Michael Szal. Reunion, Part 2 by Michael Szal (bblaze@aol.com) They were approaching Sally's hut when Rotor noticed them. He remembered Sandra and Williams from before, but didn't recognize the other two. "What's going on, Tails?" "We're VIPs from Wespero and are here to see the princess on an important matter of global safety," explained Williams. "SHE is not a VIP," he directed his statement to Sandra. "No, she's just somebody we met on the way here. We need to see the princess." "Sonic said not to let anybody in." "Why not?" "Sally's been hurt, badly." "Is that all? Sandra, move him." She did not. "I don't take orders from you." Williams groaned. "Sandra, I am kindly asking you, not ordering you, to help me out." She complied. "Thank you." He opened the door and everybody came in. "You." Sonic also recognized the two. "And her. Why are you here? So you can finish Sally off?" "Hardly." Williams didn't take it personally, he liked having a reputation. "I came about the creature, but I guess I have time to save her life." "Save her life? How can you--" "She'll be better than ever in under four hours." "That's impossible!" "Sonic," Tails backed Williams up, "he saved my life. Let him help Sally." Sonic thought about it for a second. He didn't know what to do. "Let him try," encouraged Bookshire. Although his gut feeling told him that Williams could not be trusted, Sonic stepped out of the way. "Computer," said Williams, "send a thousand of my nanites to Princess Sally." He walked over to a corner of the room. "Huh?" Sonic had NO idea what just happened. Nothing happened! How can talking to a computer save Sally's life? "I'm not going to explain it. Not now, anyway. Those who know, know. Those who don't, don't need to. How did this happen?" "I was keeping the creature busy and Sal was scanning it with Nicole. Then it ignored me and whacked her with its tail." "So, the mighty Sonic Hedgehog was outsmarted by a big, dumb creature." He could tell he made Sonic angry. "Don't worry, it was my fault." "What do we do now?" "We wait for her to get better." For a while, they just waited. Then Williams simply left. He was sitting on a log next to the power ring pool when Adam soon joined him. Adam sat down on the log, "What are you doing here?" "Waiting." "You're going to sit here for four hours?" "Two and a half. By then she should be conscious." Adam thought about that for a while. "Robotnik's gone," he finally said. "There isn't much to do." "There's always these people to torment, it keeps them on their toes. Every once in a while, we help them, that keeps them guessing. Why are they here? Are they going to help us? Should we trust them? Sonic thought we were here to kill the princess, that's a reputation if anything." No one else said anything for a while. They could hear a noise coming towards them. It sounded much like a tiny hurricane or a breeze. It kept getting closer until it was directly over them, at which time it stopped and Tails landed right in front of them, "Will Aunt Sally be okay?" "Tails, you worry too much. When I say she'll be better than ever in four hours, she will." "What will you do after she gets better?" "We'll get rid of that creature." "And after that?" "Our work will be done, we will leave." "But......I want you to stay." "I appreciate that. There's only one problem: where are you in the chain of command? Who can you convince to get us to stay?" Tails had to stop and ponder. Sonic wouldn't listen, Tails saw his reaction. Sally might after she found out Williams saved her life. There was only one person who would agree with him. "Nina would listen to me." "Ah! Nina! Good, go get her. She should be a part of this." With that, Tails was gone. "Why's Nina so important?" asked Adam. "She and Tails, and Sandra, are the only people here who actually trust me. They would back me up. I'd consider them good friends." "Sandra? The one who tried to kill you in the forest? SHE is now your friend but, saaaaay...THE PRINCESS isn't?" "The princess would never trust me, not even after I saved her life. Sonic? Maybe by some miracle. Sandra does." "She shouldn't. Tails shouldn't either." "But they do. Don't you consider Nina a friend?" Adam thought about that. "Yeah," he sighed, "okay. But NOT Sandra." "You just don't know her well enough." The conversation ended there. Not before long, Adam brought up an interesting point. "We're pretty lucky. I save Nina's life, you save the princess' life, we help get rid of this creature. When the princess takes the throne, we're going to be famous." "More than you think. I also saved Tails' life. And then there was that thing with Sonic. He would've been blown into a million, smoldering pieces if it wasn't for me." "Well, I did save Kristen's life a few times." "I hear a challenge." "Okay, the creature is the deciding factor. Whoever takes care of it is the winner." "Done." Around two hours and thirty minutes later, Williams opened the door to Sally's hut. Adam followed him in. Everybody was there, it was somewhat crowded. "Adam! Williams!" Nina ran over to them. "I told you we'd see you again," reminded Williams. He could see that Sally was conscious. "I guess we should start with introductions." He made his way to a corner of the room. All eyes were on him. "Everybody, I am Gabriel Williams, but I go by Williams for reasons I don't want to go into. This is Adam Lockard." He dragged Adam into the spotlight. "And this is Kristen Taylor. We're all from Wespero and we came here to find help to get rid of this creature." He took a position next to Sandra. "Sandra Nightweaver, she captured me a while ago and traded me to Packbell for a hover unit. But I still like her," he put his arm around her, "it was fun." No sooner did he finish his sentence than Sandra took him by the arm and flipped him onto the ground. There was a moment of silence--everybody was shocked. Then Williams began to laugh. He got up and finished the introductions. "Tails, for obvious reasons." "Actually, it's Miles, Miles Prower. But everybody calls me Tails." "Okay. Tails was with me when Sandra caught us. Nina, I met her in a hover unit some time ago. Sonic Hedgehog, he just plain doesn't like me." He walked over to Sally's bed, "And this is Princess Sally." "Princess Sally Alicia of the House of Acorn." "Whatever. I just saved your life," he reminded her. He still had three more people to go. "Somebody else can introduce the rest of you." Tails immediately stepped forward. "This is Rotor and Bookshire Draftwood. And this is my brother, David Prower. He's an android." "It's good to meet all of you," David greeted the guests politely. Williams gave him an evil grin. "Android, huh? As in...android. Like a big, walking computer. Controlled by tiny, electrical impulses. Just waiting to be--Computer, scramble David!" David twitched a little, then fell to the floor. Tails knelt beside him. He shook David and asked him if he was all right, but nothing happened. "What have you done!?!" Bookshire didn't necessarily like it when somebody ruins a lot of his hard work and effort. "Okay, okay. Sorry, but I haven't done that in a while. Computer, unscramble David." He got up, "You can't just turn me off like a piece of equipment! I am a living being like anyone else!" "Oh, calm down. Think of it this way: I knock you unconscious in such a way that there is no permanent damage and I can wake you up at any time." The world went black. The next he knew, Williams was waking up to a bucket of water in his face. He could feel the bump on his head, realized what had happened, and began laughing. "How can he DO that?" The more Sally got to know Williams, the more she was confused by him, but, then again, doesn't everybody? When she was well enough to walk, Williams was placed in her now soaking wet bed. "I get it," said Williams. "Knocked unconscious, brought back with a bucket of water, no permanent damage. I get it." "You're not supposed to get it, it's not a joke. You're supposed to know how David felt." "Princess, I knew how he felt, I was fully prepared for this. I'll admit, however, that I didn't think anyone would actually do it. Who DID do it, anyway?" "I did," Sonic stepped forward. "Adam already explained everything," continued Sally. "He said you would get up and continue what you were doing as if nothing happened." "Exactly. Did he explain the creature?" "Yes, but I have a question. Adam said you opened the void and it came out, right?" Williams nodded. "I've been inside the void before, there are no giant insects in there." "Then my calculations were wrong. Robotnik didn't have many details on the void, I ended up doing most of the work myself. There was a chance that it wouldn't work when I opened it." "Where does yours lead?" "I don't know. Maybe I'll have a chance to take you in some day." "That's not likely." Williams sat up, "Well, what's the plan?" "We don't have one yet." Williams groaned. "I have one, but you won't like it." He got out of bed and headed for the door, but when he arrived, he stopped, "Almost forgot. Computer, deactivate all of Sally's nanites." After everybody was rounded up outside of the village, Williams gave everybody an encouraging pep-talk. "There is a giant creature out there that could easily kill any one of you. I brought it here, so you don't have to help me get rid of it if you don't want to." Nobody left. "Since no one has thought up a plan, I will present mine. We save David's memory, David jumps into the void, the creature follows, I close the void, you simply build another android, everybody's happy." There were a lot of objections to this approach. "We can't 'simply' build another android!" stated Bookshire. "You must have some kind of instructions." "I'm not the same android that they build me to be," said David. "I have improved myself to become better than the original design." "Good for you. Then we save YOUR specifications for later reference." "Just because he's an android doesn't mean we can sacrifice him to save ourselves," defended Sally. "Well, Princess, do you have a better idea?" She did not. "Considering the circumstances," David spoke up, "it would be best to follow Williams' plan." "There, ya' see? Now for the second part: we can't all go. David obviously has to go because he's going to lure it back whencesoever it came. I'm going because no one else can open the void, even if it is the wrong one. The rest--" "I'm going with you," insisted Adam. "Of course." "Me too," volunteered Tails. "Fine." "If Tails is going," said Sonic, "I'm going." "Nope. Too many people." "What!?!" "The rest of you can get to know each other better." After the necessary backups were made and the final good-byes said, the group left for the Great Swamp. For some odd reason or another the creature had migrated there, its trail of destruction gave its new hiding place away. They each said good-bye to David again and Adam went with him to the other side of the creature. "Computer," ordered Williams, "open 'the void' twenty-five yards east of the creature and close it as soon as the creature goes through it." The swirling helix again opened up. That was David's cue, "So long, Adam." "Sorry, but Computer, scramble David." He jumped out from behind the tree, waved his hands frantically, and called out to the creature. "What's he doing?" asked Tails. The creature noticed him and began chasing him. "Adam!" Williams tried to stop him, or at least get the creature away from him. "You demented fool!" It worked. The creature heard him and turned to start chasing him. Williams didn't expect that to happen. "Tails, run." "But--" "GO!" "I can't leave you!" There was nothing Williams could do at that point. There was no place for him to go, nothing for him to hide behind. Even if he found a way to escape, Tails was still there. And the only thing between Tails and the creature was him. "This'll be fun," he said under his breath. The creature slashed at him, he took the full force of the blow. One gash in his left arm, the other in his leg, and being knocked ten feet away--he expected worse. The creature moved in for the kill. It took a lot from Adam to regain the creature's full and undivided attention, he ended up having to kick its back leg. After that, the creature simply followed him out of annoyance into the void. That was it, the crisis was over, and Adam was gone. "Williams?" Tails ran over to him. "Pain. Pain is bad." "Adam saved us, he took David's place." "I know, that's what gets me. To save us, all he had to do was come up with a better plan than I did. But he went and got himself killed. There's no way that I can top that. I think he killed himself just to annoy me." "Williams," Tails was surprised at him, "your best friend is...gone." "Yeah," he sighed. "There's something wrong, though. Adam wouldn't just jump into a void." He slowly got up. "Should you be walking?" "I'll be fine." "Do you forgive me?" "Okay, why?" "I should've listened to you. If I had just left when you said so, then you could've..." "Could have what? Moved out of the way? Yeah, right. It doesn't matter if you stayed, ran, or took my place, one of us was going to get hit, maybe both. Aren't you glad it was me?" "Well...no. I mean, I don't want to see you hurt." "I'm trying to explain this to you. Would you rather get your arm hacked open, or have me, with my nanites that can fix almost anything, get my arm hacked open?" "Well..." He put his arm around Tails and gave him a type of half-hug. "Tails, I could tell that when I first met you I was going to like you. You are extremely intelligent and need to work on your sense of humor, but that's okay. There are a LOT of things I can teach you, maybe you can visit me sometime. Just don't tell Sally you're going." "Maybe YOU can visit me." "Oh I will. Every once in a while, at the most unexpected time, I'll drop by and say 'hello.'" He limped over to David's position, which was still behind the tree. "Computer, what is wrong with David?" "He has no recognizable command functions or interpretive data." "Computer, unscramble David." It did. David got up and tried to deduce exactly what went on whilst he was out. "Let's go," Williams started back for Knothole. But as soon as he turned around, the void opened up again and Adam popped out. Immediately afterwards, it closed. The trio ran (or limped as the case may be) over to Adam, who was sweating and breathing heavily. "They need more oxygen in their atmosphere," he panted. "Well, that's what you get for being heroic," commented Williams. He helped Adam up and they started back for Knothole. "I nearly get my leg lopped off after I try to save you, and you nearly suffocate after you save us." "I don't care--I won!" "Won what?" asked Tails. "We had a...bet going. Whoever could get rid of the creature was declared the winner." "There was nothing tangible at stake," added Williams. "It was just a matter of reputation. Something you can check off on your 'things-to-do' list. Saved planet, check. How did you get back, anyway?" "When you were unconscious I took your void programs. I would never jump into a void with no way to get back." "How was it in there?" "Nice place to visit. I'm never going there again. Promise me one thing, Williams, don't ever open it again." "That's a problem. See, I told the princess I'd take her in. And Tails might want to go. Then I'd have to show Kristen also. Maybe we could set up an attraction..." "Tails!" Nina ran up to meet him. They embraced, "Why is David here? Did the plan work?" "It's hard to explain." Williams' wounds had healed a bit, but were still quite noticeable. Kristen saw the torn clothing, missing scales, and dried blood and wanted to know what happened. He explained everything, including why David was still with them. "And now, Princess, we will be on our way." "Wait!" Tails stopped him. "Aunt Sally, can't they stay here just one more day?" She had to think for a minute. "Ultimately, it's not my decision to make. You'll have to ask Sonic." It took some convincing from Tails and Nina, even Bookshire put in a good word for them. Maybe it was because Adam saved the planet, maybe it was because Williams saved the princess, maybe even because Williams was injured. In the end, Sonic let them stay for twenty-four more hours, but no longer. The End... From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Wed Apr 5 17:15:51 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id RAA14002 for sonic-ll; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 17:15:29 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id RAA13997 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 17:15:27 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) id RAA00976; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 17:21:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:05:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2" To: Robert Haynie Subject: Re: Just a bit uncertain... In-Reply-To: <95040421315722232@jaguar.ac.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ReSent-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 17:20:54 -0400 (EDT) ReSent-From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2" ReSent-To: sonic@sard.mv.net ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Tue, 4 Apr 1995, Robert Haynie wrote: > I'm a bit uncertain. I getmy Email on -- get this-- a dial-in to a > Wildcat bbs that can access the internet. Now, when I see an > interesting mail message come across on the newsgroup, I'm not certain > if I can reply directly-- since the messages all come from other sites > than sard.mv.net. Anyone know if I have to forward any replies, or can > I just reply to the message, expecting it to get to sard? At least one other person here reads the Sonic list on a BBS, so you're not alone. If you look at the headers of the messages you get, you'll see a From: field (the person who posted) and a Reply To: field (the mailing list). Which address your reply goes to depends upon your mail software. Some programs only use the From: field, which is not good because it's more likely to be wrong. Other programs only use the Reply To: field. IMO, the better-designed programs will show you both addresses and ask which one you want the reply sent to. This way, if both addresses are correct, it's easier to reply to the list or directly to the poster according to your preference. You can always use the Enter a new message command instead of the Reply command. It's less convenient, but does ensure your reply goes to the address you intended. Ask your SysOp if you need more help with getting your replies out. > OOT: I finally gotm STH:The Comic #s 21-23, and PS is easily one of > the best artists that they've gotten so far. I'm just waiting for his > rendition of Bunnie. THAT's worth waiting for... I got my #23 yesterday, but I've not written up a summary for it yet. It says PS#3 is out now, but I've not received it nor have I seen it in my local stores. So far, only one of my local stores has PS#2 now -- and one store still has a lot of copies of the "In Your Face" special. |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| | A! JW2 WAR++ PI~ BR+i SL++++i SK+++ RI++^ RU+ GDF BU+ MI- MM KK-- | | P++ D $++ E59 Ee5 Eee35 TRita Ay68 M | | "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog | |-- A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! ------------------------------| From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Wed Apr 5 22:32:54 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA15858 for sonic-ll; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 22:32:42 -0400 Received: from serv0.cae.wisc.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA15853 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 22:32:39 -0400 Received: from hp-10.cae.wisc.edu (firmiss@hp-10.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.4.41]) by serv0.cae.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with ESMTP id VAA16319 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 21:44:13 -0500 From: James Firmiss Received: (firmiss@localhost) by hp-10.cae.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.9) id VAA20412 for sonic@sard.mv.net; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 21:44:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199504060244.VAA20412@hp-10.cae.wisc.edu> Subject: Re: Just a bit uncertain... To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Wed, 05 Apr 1995 21:44:18 CDT In-Reply-To: ; from "Erich Schulman" at Apr 5, 95 11:05 am X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 109.14] Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net > I got my #23 yesterday, but I've not written up a summary for it yet. It > says PS#3 is out now, but I've not received it nor have I seen it in my > local stores. So far, only one of my local stores has PS#2 now -- and > one store still has a lot of copies of the "In Your Face" special. Hee hee. I just found PS#3 at the comic shop today. If I had it with me now I'd type up a summary myself [I'm suprised.. did ANYONE get my summary of PS#2? There were no responses to it]. Anyway. Here's a hint. Check out Sally carefully in 1 and two... It gives some clues as to what's going on. > |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| > | A! JW2 WAR++ PI~ BR+i SL++++i SK+++ RI++^ RU+ GDF BU+ MI- MM KK-- | > | P++ D $++ E59 Ee5 Eee35 TRita Ay68 M | > | "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog | > |-- A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! ------------------------------| From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Thu Apr 6 15:49:10 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id PAA19894 for sonic-ll; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:48:47 -0400 Received: from ns2.ac.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id PAA19889 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:48:45 -0400 Received: from jaguar.ac.edu by ns2.ac.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14319; Thu, 6 Apr 95 16:05:52 EDT Received: by jaguar.ac.edu (wcGATE v4) id 36115W Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:56:45 GMT From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) Subject: Re: Just a bit uncertain... Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 17:37:39 GMT Message-Id: <95040615564522757@jaguar.ac.edu> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA To: sonic@sard.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net -> > OOT: I finally gotm STH:The Comic #s 21-23, and PS is easily o -> > the best artists that they've gotten so far. I'm just waiting for -> > rendition of Bunnie. THAT's worth waiting for... -> -> I got my #23 yesterday, but I've not written up a summary for it yet. -> says PS#3 is out now, but I've not received it nor have I seen it in -> local stores. So far, only one of my local stores has PS#2 now -- an -> one store still has a lot of copies of the "In Your Face" special. By PS I meant Pat Spazinante. That man can draw! I haven't seen any princess sally's yet... From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Thu Apr 6 16:37:53 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id QAA20295 for sonic-ll; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 16:36:46 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id QAA20290 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 16:36:44 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) id QAA12927; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 16:42:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 16:42:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2" To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: Just a bit uncertain... In-Reply-To: <199504060244.VAA20412@hp-10.cae.wisc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Wed, 5 Apr 1995, James Firmiss wrote: > If I had it with me now I'd type up a summary myself [I'm suprised.. did > ANYONE get my summary of PS#2? There were no responses to it]. I don't recall seeing your PS#2 summary. I know my summary did get out, but there were no responses either in direct mail or posted to the list. |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| | A! JW2 WAR++ PI~ BR+i SL++++i SK+++ RI++^ RU+ GDF BU+ MI- MM KK-- | | P++ D $++ E59 Ee5 Eee35 TRita Ay68 M | | "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog | |-- A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! ------------------------------| From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Thu Apr 6 18:21:28 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id SAA21286 for sonic-ll; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 18:21:11 -0400 Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id SAA21281 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 18:21:07 -0400 Received: from edmund (edmund.cs.andrews.edu) by peter.cs.andrews.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06345; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 18:32:59 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (5.x) id AA04947; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 18:32:56 -0400 Message-Id: <9504062232.AA04947@edmund> Subject: Re: Just a bit uncertain... To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 18:32:56 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "Erich Schulman" at Apr 6, 95 04:42:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net > > On Wed, 5 Apr 1995, James Firmiss wrote: > > > If I had it with me now I'd type up a summary myself [I'm suprised.. did > > ANYONE get my summary of PS#2? There were no responses to it]. > > I don't recall seeing your PS#2 summary. I know my summary did get out, > but there were no responses either in direct mail or posted to the list. > > |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| > Worry not: a summary of PS#2 is alive and well and currently residing in my FAQ file. Now, if the US Postal people will just get me the issues I ordered.... We now return you to your regularly scheduled rodent. ================================================================ || ___------__ || || |\__-- /\ _- || Daniel J. Drazen || | / __ _ || drazen@andrews.edu || //\ / \ /__ || || | o| 0|__ --_ || Custodian of one of the Sonic || \\____-- __ \ ___ - || the Hedgehog FAQ Files || (@@ __/ / /_ || || -_____--- --_ || ASCII Sonic by Han J. Lee ================================================================ From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Thu Apr 6 19:02:28 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id TAA21488 for sonic-ll; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:02:25 -0400 Received: from freenet.calgary.ab.ca by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id TAA21483 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:02:22 -0400 Received: from srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca by freenet.calgary.ab.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA32602; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 17:08:19 -0600 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 17:08:18 -0600 (MDT) From: "William T. Graham" To: sonic@sard.mv.net Cc: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: Just a bit uncertain... In-Reply-To: <95040615564522757@jaguar.ac.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Thu, 6 Apr 1995, Robert Haynie wrote: > By PS I meant Pat Spazinante. That man can draw! I haven't seen any > princess sally's yet... Oh, yeah, I have to agree. I _really_ like Spaz's style. It makes me sweat! With Art Mawhinney drawing Princess Sally, I sure hope that Spaz is doing most of Sonic in Your Face #2. I find that my local comic book store gets a given issue of Sonic in about 2 weeks before my subscription copy arrives in the mail (or on the comic racks in 7-11), so I end up with 2 copies of each issue. :-) - Spuug - From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Thu Apr 6 21:26:35 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id VAA22021 for sonic-ll; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 21:26:23 -0400 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id VAA22016 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 21:26:21 -0400 From: Gadget4190@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA098028668; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 21:37:48 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 21:37:48 -0400 Message-Id: <950406213746_74539488@aol.com> To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: Just a bit uncertain... Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >By PS I meant Pat Spazinante. That man can draw! Ditto on that! :) Definitely an inspiration, he is! It's fabulous to see such great talent coming to the Sonic comics these days. Makes me want to draw a couple comics myself! Yum! To a free Mobius! Morgan Ingersoll Aka CamCoon Gadget4190 From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 7 08:55:58 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id IAA23658 for sonic-ll; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 08:55:40 -0400 Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id IAA23653 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 08:55:29 -0400 Received: from edmund (edmund.cs.andrews.edu) by peter.cs.andrews.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09012; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:07:25 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (5.x) id AA14472; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:07:18 -0400 Message-Id: <9504071307.AA14472@edmund> Subject: Sonic FAQ File To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:07:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net ___------__ |\__-- /\ _- |/ __ _ //\ / \ /__ | o| 0|__ --_ \\____-- __ \ ___ - (@@ __/ / /_ -_____--- --_ // \ \\ - //|\__/ \\ ___- \_-\_____/ \-\ // \\--\| ____// ||_ /___//_\ /___\ ascii Sonic by Han J. Lee |====================== THE SONIC FAQ FILE =====================| Apr 7, 1995 edition Compiled by: Daniel J. Drazen Contributors: Ron Bauerle, Brad Clark, Maureen Furniss, Craig Moore, Michiyo Nakajima, Paula O'Keefe, Eric E. Pearson, Jeff Pegnato, Alessandro Sanasi, Erich Schulman, Fred Sloniker, Andy White Address all comments, corrections, contributions and flames to: drazen@andrews.edu ***************************************************************** WHAT'S NEW?: [Note: There WILL be spoilers. You have been warned. DJD] Q9: Why didn't ABC renew Sonic for a third season? A: The following represents the positions of neither ABC, Sega nor DiC, but rather is a recap of scuttlebutt on the Sonic e-mail group: DiC allegedly screwed the pooch by releasing StH animation cels onto the market without clearing it with Sega. Upon learning of this, Sega took umbrage that its property was being sold without its consent or agreement to a cut of the action (can you say "anal retentive"?). Words were exchanged and the show was effectively cancelled. If anyone has been in correspondence with any of the parties involved, a more "official" explanation would be appreciated...though it probably wouldn't be as much fun. **************************************************************** I. FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS II. SOURCE DESCRIPTIONS A. SONIC THE HEDGEHOG EPISODE GUIDE B. SONIC COMICS DESCRIPTIONS C. OTHER SOURCES I. FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ============================= Q1: How did Tails come to have two tails? Q2: Is "Tails" his real name? Q3: Is Tails related to Sally? He calls her "Aunt Sally" quite often. Q4: I can't figure out what kinds of animals some of the characters are supposed to be. Q5: "Sally Acorn?" Q6: How old are the characters supposed to be? Q7: What happened to the Princess Sally miniseries? Q8: Does anyone have a theory about Sonic's speed? Q9: Why didn't ABC renew Sonic for a third season? ================================================================ Q1: How did Tails come to have two tails? A: The writers of Sonic comics solicited reader responses to this in issue #___; the replies were printed in issue #___. They range from transplantation to mutation. The latest entry is in the Sonicgram of #22. They state that Tails just happened to be born that way--with no other comment (thus illustrating the difference between an Explanation and an Answer). At this point, there is no "official" explanation as to how Tails got that way, so you're pretty much free to believe what you like. Personally, I prefer the theory that it is a mutation, induced by Robotnik's pollution of Mobius. This would accord with the fact that Tails had not been born when Robotnik took over (cf. Q6). Q2: Is "Tails" his real name? A: No, his real name is "Miles Prower" (you have to say it sorta fast to get the joke). That was his name when he was introduced on the front screen of the Sonic 2 video game. Tails was given as his nickname, and it stuck. Q3: Is Tails related to Sally? He calls her "Aunt Sally" quite often. A:This argument has been put forward by the "Sally is a fox" camp (see below). However, if that were true, then he'd also be related to Bunnie, as he's been known to address her as "Aunt Bunnie." For that matter, it seems that everyone in the Knothole gang refers to Sir Charles Hedgehog as "Uncle Chuck," though he's technically only uncle to Sonic. While it was not explicitly stated in either the comics or in the cartoons, it has to be kept in mind that all of the freedom fighters' families were disrupted by Robotnik's takeover of Mobius. It's safe to assume that they all have had relatives who have ended up being roboticized. As a result, they have become not so much a paramilitary resistance group as a loose-knit family. Sonic, for instance, clearly relates to Tails as if the latter was his little brother, the difference in species notwithstanding. Q4: I can't figure out what kinds of animals some of the characters are supposed to be. A: Admittedly, it's trickier to spot some species in the series than others. Herewith is the list: Sonic and Sir Charles. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .hedgehogs Bunnie . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . rabbit Tails. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .fox Rotor. . . . . . . . . . . . . .walrus (sea lion, cf. Teitelbaum) Antoine D'Coolette . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .fox Sally Acorn. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ground squirrel/chipmunk Sally's father . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .fox The identification of Sally as a ground squirrel is based on extended discussion of the topic on Internet {alt.fan.furry and rec.arts.animation). She was also declared to be a ground squirrel in the comics, most recently in the Sonicgram of Sonic #19. As for the designation "ground squirrel/chipmunk", which has been questioned by at least one correspondent, I entered it this way on the assumption that the two terms were synonymous. I have consulted a dictionary, which states that the term "ground squirrel" applies to several kinds of rodents, including the chipmunk genus _Tamias_. Given the present ambiguity, the designation will remain as is. Despite this, controversy continues. Identifying Sally's species has been particularly vexing to some fans, especially those who reason that since Sally's father is clearly a fox, then she must be one herself. It is possible that Sally takes after her mother in this regard more than her father. Cross-species mating is a definite possibility, and an example is implied in the "flashforward" at the end of "Sally's Crusade" [Sonic: In Your Face #1]. At this point, the identification of Sally's nanny, Rosie, remains ambiguous. Given her buck teeth, she could be either a beaver or a woodchuck. Since she is always shown wearing a long cloak, I've been unable to spot the character beaver tail. Final identification is still pending. Q5: "Sally Acorn"? A: This is how she was identified as far back as the beginning of the comics [Sonic Miniseries, #0, Mar 1993]. Technically, royalty do not have surnames or family names in the accepted sense; rather, the title of the personage tends to serve the purpose. Her middle name, Alicia, is apparently seldom used (cf. "Blast to the Past," part 1). If you wanted to be grandiose about it, Sally's formal title would be: Sally Alicia, Princess of the House of Acorn. But in any event it's unlikely that Sally's formal title will come back into use so long as Robotnik is in charge. Q6: How old are the characters supposed to be? A: According to the TV series ["Blast to the Past: part 1"] Sonic and Sally were both 5 years old when Sally's father was overthrown and Robotnik took over. Two other age clues were given in the "Drood Henge" episode: that Tails was 10 years old, and that Sally wouldn't "come of age" for another two years. At one point, Sally's age is explicitly given as being 16, though the comics reportedly put both at age 15. Subtracting 5 from 16 leaves the number of years Robotnik has been in charge: 11. Thus, it would appear that Tails was born after the fall of the House of Acorn. Still, the simplest way out of this dilemma would be to put the age of majority on Mobius at 17 instead of 18; that would eliminate the extra year differential without altering the stated ages of Sonic and Sally (in the comics) or of Tails (in "Drood Henge"). Q7: What happened to the Princess Sally miniseries? A: Archie Comics was supposed to roll out a three-part miniseries starring Sally as the main character. The story actually began with "Deadliest of the Species" in Sonic #20. The cover art for the miniseries, however, differed in subsequent advertisements: one cover for the first issue prominently featured Geoffrey St. John, while another did not. The third issue cover either does or doesn't feature Sally doing battle with a clone of herself, depending upon where you see it. Two different versions of the cover for #2 appeared in Sonic #22. The fact that the Sally creative team PLUS Archie Comics PLUS Sega reportedly came together to discuss "improving" the series (as reported in the Sonicgram for Sonic #21) would seem to indicate that someone had come down with a case of "creative differences." In any event, the "improved" Sally miniseries began shipping the week of Feb 13. Q8: Does anyone have a theory about Sonic's speed? A: How, in other words, is Sonic able to run so fast? Apparently the same way you get to Carnegie Hall in the old joke: practice. I'm serious; here is the only print explanation I've come across so far: "Years ago, when things were right on Mobius, there lived a hedgehog named Sonic.... Sonic was only interested in running as fast as he could. Every day he practiced." [Michael Teitelbaum, _Sonic the Hedgehog_. Mahwah, NJ: Troll, 1993, pp.7- 8]. And that's the extent of Teitelbaum's explanation. Thanks a heap, Mike! Q9: Why didn't ABC renew Sonic for a third season? A: The following represents the positions of neither ABC, Sega nor DiC, but rather is a recap of scuttlebutt on the Sonic e-mail group: DiC allegedly screwed the pooch by releasing StH animation cels onto the market without clearing it with Sega. Upon learning of this, Sega took umbrage that its property was being sold without its consent or agreement to a cut of the action (can you say "anal retentive"?). Words were exchanged and the show was effectively cancelled. ================================================================= NOTICE: The fact that episode and story summaries appear here means there is a good chance that you will encounter spoilers. This is your only notice! II. SOURCE DESCRIPTIONS A. SONIC THE HEDGEHOG EPISODE GUIDE 1. First Season: 1993-94 Super Sonic Writer: Jules Dennis When Nicole malfunctions, Sonic and Sally go to Robotropolis to get replacement parts. While there, they discover the Forbidden Zone and a being named Lezar. Lezar causes Sonic to lose his speed abilities, and teaches him that he can still accomplish things without it. Sonic Boom Writer: Len Janson While on a mission in Robotropolis, Sally intercepts a message which includes the use of her father's pet name for her. They follow the lead to the Dark Swamp and the remains of Ironlock Prison. In the process, a freedom fighter named Cat is captured. The freedom fighters gain maps to Robotropolis, but the search for Sally's father proves futile. Sonic and Sally Writers: Pat Allee and Ben Hurst Before becoming the principle writers for the second season, Allee and Hurst wrote this account of Sally's capture by Robotnik's forces. Sonic rescues what he thinks is Sally but what is instead a robot double. Back in Knothole, Tails begins to doubt Sally's behavior because of small details, such as how she reads a bedtime story. After first dismissing Tails' fears, Sonic also comes to realizes he's been dealing with a "Stepford Sally." Hooked on Sonics Writer: Randy Rogel In an attempt to impress Sally, Antoine tries to capture Robotnik by himself. He attempts to lure Robotnik into the open with the offer of a power ring, but Antoine is himself captured and Sonic has to rescue him. Ultra Sonic Writer: David Villaire While on a raid in Robotropolis, Sonic finds his Uncle Chuck as a robot worker in a crystal mine. Uncle Chuck recovers his mind and will long enough to help destroy a giant crystal which would have damaged the ecosystem of the entire planet. As Uncle Chuck loses control of his will, Sonic vows to return for him. Sonic's Nightmare Writer: Frank Santopadre The freedom fighters are captured and held on a deserted island refinery. Sonic must not only rescue them but he also has to deal with a recurring nightmare where he unable to prevent Sally's being roboticized. Warp Sonic Writer: Matt Uitz The freedom fighters discover an underground civilization called Lower Mobius and one of its citizens, Griff. Lower Mobius draws energy from a power crystal, but it is weakening. Feigning friendship, Griff visits Knothole and steals the power stone which is the source of the power rings. After fighting off some mechanical rats, the power stone is retrieved. Griff apologizes for his theft and is given a portion of the stone to aid Lower Mobius. Harmonic Sonic Writer: David Villaire After Robotnik launches a robot-manned orbiting space station to locate Knothole, the Knothole freedom fighters use a rocket booster to reach and destroy it. Sonic and the Secret Scrolls Writer: Janis Diamond The freedom fighters journey to Mauga (sp?) to recover some legendary scrolls, but Robotnik is tailing them. Robotnik's ship is hurled off a plateau by a violent wind, and the Knothole gang mistakenly believe he is finished. Will they make the same mistake at the end of the second season? Sub-Sonic Writer: Barbara Slade Sonic discovers a stream of water that makes plants grow at a fantastic rate. In their search for the source, the Knothole gang discover a subterranean creature whose habitat has been disturbed by Robotnik's drilling operations. Heads or Tails Writer: Len Janson On a raid of Robotropolis, Sonic runs into Muttski, his now- roboticized pet dog and vows to return him to normal someday. The freedom fighters also have to contend with a squadron of Buzzbombers carrying an orange defoliant [Agent Orange? Hmmmm...] intent on destroying the Great Forest and exposing Knothole. Artwork in this ep is decidedly off-model. Sonic Past Cool Writers: Kayte Kuch & Sheryl Scarborough Tails finds a baby terrapod and the freedom fighters escort the terrapod herd to Boulder Bay, where they will be safe from Robotnik. Sonic Racer Writer: Len Janson While on a mission to disable Robotnik's power generators, Sonic is tempted into participating in a contest against a super-fast robot designed to capture him. While he engages the bot, Bunnie, Sally and Antoine go after their target: Robotnik's back-up generator. 2. Second Season: 1994-95 Game Guy Sonic rescues someone from capture by Robotnik; he turns out to be Ari, a freedom fighter from another group. Ari directs Sonic to a place which turns out to be a trap. Sonic manages to escape (after Robotnik toys with him), but Ari--whose comrades were roboticized and who was himself deceived by Robotnik--is sucked into the Void. Before falling into the Void, Ari says something about a list of other freedom fighters. Sonic Conversion To my way of thinking, THE breakthrough episode for the series! The Knothole gang test a deroboticizing process on Bunnie, whose partially-roboticized body is returned to normal. Sonic then goes after Uncle Chuck and is able to convince him to undergo the process. However, the process turns out to be only temporary as, in a poignant scene, Bunnie reverts to a half-robot. When Uncle Chuck reverts to robotic form, he captures Tails and Antoine for delivery to Robotnik; Sonic confronts him and manages to break the hold on Uncle Chuck's mind. Uncle Chuck returns to Robotropolis to work as a spy for the Knothole gang. No Brainer Sonic's thought processes are temporarily scrambled while on a mission in Robotropolis. Taking advantage of the situation, Snively convinces Sonic that they are friends. The disruption wears off just as the Knothole gang face imminent capture. Blast to the Past (two parts) Dulcy takes Sonic and Sally to a floating island where they use the Time Stones to return to Mobotropolis on the eve of the planet's conquest by Dr. Robotnik (then known as Julian, affiliated with the War Ministry and supposedly in charge of its dismantling). They also encounter themselves as 5-year-olds and learn that it was Sonic's Uncle Chuck who had perfected the roboticizer process in the first place, though Julian/Robotnik stole the process. Sally and Sonic work to keep their child selves from being roboticized, to prevent the Great Forest from being destroyed, and to make sure that Sally's nanny, Rosie, would not get captured. Fed Up With Antoine/Ghost Busted (back to back episodes) Feeling unappreciated, Antoine allows himself to be made "king" by a group of renegades, unaware that with the office comes the "honor" of being an entree./While out camping, Sonic's ghost story panics Tails, and Antoine once more demonstrates his ineptitude. Dulcy Dulcy begins having overpowering urges to fly to Dragonsnest, a nesting site for female dragons. She, Sonic and Sally, arrive just as Robotnik has captured another female dragon; they then discover the dragon's egg inside Dragonsnest. Taking the egg back to Knothole, they rescue the female dragon who returns in time to hatch the egg. The Void Sonic discovers an opening to the Void while out in the "Great Unknown" [another name for the Forbidden Zone?]. Sally and Bunnie are put under a spell and pulled into the Void by a sorcerer named Naugus, who had been imprisoned there years before by Robotnik and who needs Sonic's speed to escape. Sonic learns what has happened from Nicole and allows himself to be pulled into the Void. Attempting to rescue Sally and Bunnie, he is tricked into rescuing what he thinks is Sally's father but is really Naugus. Sonic returns to the Void and finds not only Sally and Bunnie but the King and Ari as well. He brings them all out, but Naugus and the King have spent so much time in the Void that their bodies cannot handle living on Mobius. Naugus breaks off his tormenting of Robotnik, and Sally's father gives her the list of other resistance groups. On the whole, Sally goes through the emotional rollercoaster ride of her life. The Odd Couple/Ro-Becca (back to back episodes) After a crash landing by Dulcy leaves Sonic homeless he moves in with Antoine, who predictably gets bent out of shape by Sonic's lifestyle./Rotor cobbles together a robot which develops the hots for Antoine. Cry of the Wolf The Knothole freedom fighters search for and discover the Wolf Pack, the remnants of an ancient race who are now one of the other resistance groups. After several unsuccessful attempts to destroy a test pod from the Doomsday Project, Sonic draws it into a lightning storm and destroys it. Drood Henge Sonic and Tails discover an archaeological dig by Robotnik; they learn from Nicole that the object of the search is the Deep Power Stones, and that Robotnik has recovered one of the two. Tails comes up with a plan to retrieve the second stone before Robotnik can get to it. Spyhog On the eve of final preparations of the Doomsday project, Robotnik begins to suspect that there is a spy in his midst. Uncle Chuck's cover is blown, but he escapes capture and goes back underground with a different cover. Doomsday In the season finale, a combined force of the five freedom fighter groups tries to destroy the Doomsday project. Robotnik, however, seems to have too many safeguards built in. As a last resort, Sonic and Sally use the Deep Power Stones. The Doomsday project is destroyed; Robotnik's fate is uncertain but Snively is ready to step into his shoes in a burst of megalomania and overacting. Cliffhanger: who or what does Snively have to help him? We'll never know: ABC chose not to run StH for a third season. VOICE CREDITS: SONIC: Jaleel White SALLY: Kath Soucie NICOLE: Kath Soucie (uncredited) TAILS: Bradley Pierce BUNNIE: Christine Cavanaugh ANTOINE: Rob Paulsen ROTOR: Mark Ballou (1st season) Cam Brainard (2d season) DULCY: Cree Summer Franks UNCLE CHUCK: William Windom ROBOTNIK: Jim Cummings SNIVELY: Charlie Adler ADDITIONAL VOICES: (First season): David Doyle Gaille Heindenmann Dana Hill Danny Mann Jason Marsden Charlie Schlatter Frank Welker (Second season): Shari Belafonte: Lupee (?) Michael Bell: Naugus (?) Crystal Cooke Tim Curry: Sally's father; Keeper of the Time Stones Dave Fennoy Dorian Harewood John Kassir Katie Leigh Nancy Linari Victor Love Tahj Mowry Hal Rayle Alaina Reed Hall Lindsay Ridgeway April Winchell Want to contact DiC? Write or phone: DiC 303 North Glenoaks Blvd. Burbank, CA 91502 (818) 955-5400 (818) 955-5696 (FAX) B. SONIC COMICS DESCRIPTIONS [CONTRIBUTIONS WELCOME] Now, direct from the Great White North, Brad Clark summarizes the original Sonic miniseries: Issue 0 "Don't Cry For Me, Mobius" Story: Michael Gallagher, Art: Scott Shaw! Sonic is chased by Dr. Robotnik. After the chase, which Robotnik loses, Sonic returns to Knothole where most of the main characters are introduced for the first time. (Note: Rotor is referred to as "Boomer.") Antoine then announces that there is a leak in Knothole (Knothole is located underground in this issue) that is caused by Robotnik. Sonic defeats Robotnik with a power ring. "The Royal Family of Mobius" Takes place before Robotnik was in power and has Sonic and Uncle Chuck running a chilidog take-out stand. Robotnik destroys the stand and captures Muttski and Uncle Chuck. Sonic meets Sally (with yellow hair and red fur) who introduces him to the rest of the freedom fighters in Knothole. Issue 1 "Run, Sally, Run" Story and art: Gallagher & Shaw! Sally [this time with pink fur and black hair] goes to see Robotnik about the return of her father. Robotnik captures Sally and almost throws her into the "Robo-machine." Sonic rescues Sally only to discover that Sally had wanted to get caught in order to gather information on the roboticizer, using some special boots designed by Boomer/Rotor. Issue 2 "A Crowning Achievement" Gallagher & Shaw! again. Sally decides to wear the "Crown of the Acorn Kings" which belonged to her father, but the crown is missing. They discover a robotic freedom fighter who tells them that Robotnik has stolen the crown and has scattered its jewels (the four Chaos Emeralds) throughout the land. Sonic retrieves the emeralds and Boomer/Rotor repairs the crown. Issue 3 "Sonic Flashback" Gallagher & Shaw! Sonic and Robotnik recall when they were kids. Uncle Chuck invents the power rings. Sonic and Robotnik have an argument, and it escalates until Robotnik is constructing mechanical monsters out of Uncle Chuck's appliances. Sonic then wakes up -- it was all just a daydream -- and resumes being chased by Robotnik. "Why Ask Spy" Sonic is made to look like a robot to trick Robotnik and to destroy one of his factories. In the process, Sonic discovers Uncle Chuck and Muttski who have both been roboticized. Sonic destroys the factory. #18 [Jan 1995]: "Wedding Bell Blues" Robotnik gets word of Sonic and Sally's impending wedding and plans an attack. "In the Still of the Night" While trying to determine the nature of the mysterious orb (cf. "First Star....", #17), Sally is called to the bedside of her old mentor, Julayla, just before she dies. Sonicgram: includes statement that Sonic is 15, and a German fan disses Dave Manak's artwork Sonic: In Your Face #1 [1995] "Sally's Crusade: The Quest" The orb is revealed to be a casing surrounding Nicole. Sally, with the others in tow, searches for what turns out to be Julayla's last testament. The significance of this document is spelled out in a "flashforward" at the end of the story. "Mirror Zone" An excuse to practice backwards lettering. Sonicgram: Sally's age is given as "about 15." [Note, if you're going to guess a lady's age, guess on the low side ;-) ] "Tails' Tallest Tale" Tails substitutes for Sonic, putting in an appearance at a con. His exaggerations almost get him into trouble. Artwork by Shaw!. #19 [Feb 1995]: "Night of a Thousand Sonics" In order to defeat Robotnik's latest scheme, Sonic has to call in as many versions of himself from as many parallel universes as he can. Artwork by Manak for the first half, Mawhinney for the second. Sonicgram: The name of Sally's father is given as "King Acorn" (but see FAQ #5). Scott Fulop hedges on when Knuckles will make an appearance and whose side he'll be on. Again, Sally is identified as a "ground squirrel." Hint is dropped as to a Sonic motion picture in the works. #20 [Mar 1995]: "That's the Spirit" Exposure to an antimatter explosion renders Sonic invisible; Sally and the others [Tails being the exception] believe he is dead. The comedic pacing and Manak's artwork mar what otherwise might have been a very poignant story. Great line (Sonic to Robotnik--who thinks he's dealing with a ghost): "Give Mobius back to the freedom fighters, lose weight and get a hairpiece!" "Deadliest of the Species" [Prologue to the Princess Sally miniseries] While on a sabotage mission, Sally is confronted by someone claiming to be part of a rebel underground. Sonicgram: Once again lists Sally's age as 15. #21 [Apr 1995]: "3 Phases of E.V.E" Pat Spaziante debuts as a story artist. Robotnik unleashes E.V.E. ["exceptionally versatile evolvoid"] to capture Sonic. As Sonic manages to outsmart E.V.E., it simply adapts to another form to compensate. Sonic lures it to Robotnik's headquarters where, assuming a self-conscious form, E.V.E. determines that it is being held back by its biological inheritance from Sonic and Robotnik [i.e., individual cells used in E.V.E.'s creation]. E.V.E. toasts Robotnik, but thanks to some quick thinking by Sonic--apparently, Sally's influence is rubbing off on him ;-) -- E.V.E. spares Sonic and travels out into space on a journey of self-actualization. Is Robotnik really history? That's the tease--stay tuned, probably until after the Sally miniseries. Sonicgram: announcement of the delay in rolling out the Sally miniseries; another special issue (48pp) due out in May. #22 [May 1995] "The Return," written by Ken Penders, art by Pat Spaziante & Harvey M. The story opens with Sonic & Sally MCW (Married with Children; cf. the end of "Sally's Quest" in _In Your Face #1_). Sonic & Sally are out with the kids when, during a lightning storm, an apparition of Robotnik appears and just as suddenly disappears. Have your pencils and scorecards ready to try and follow the remainder of the plot: Robotnik is actually on a satellite talking with Robo-Robotnik from "Night of a Thousand Sonics," (#19), only in this case only the consciousness of Robo-Robotnik (hereinafter "R-R") remains resident. Robotnik convinces R-R to teleport him back to Mobius, where it turns out Snively has activated an alternative Doomesday device which would go off if Robotnik was ever defeated. Robotnik actually deactivates "Operation Wasteland" himself to keep from being ruler over nothing and to have the pleasure of saying to Sonic: "You owe me!" Robotnik and Sonic MWC are declared to be at a stalemate. What about R-R? Who knows? Muddled story saved by Spaziante artwork. "Tails Knighttime Story," written by Angelo Decasare, art by Dave Manak & John Dagostino. As Tails grumps about "get[ting] baby-sat" while Sonic has all the fun and adventures, Sally tells him a bedtime story wherein Sonic is Sir Runalot and Tails is his page who "borrows" his armour one day and who, mistaken for the aforementioned knight, ends up doing battle with Sir Knightmare of Robotannia (guess who?) until the real Sir Runalot saves his...er...tails. Sonicgram: the comics should get a FAQ File, since two letters pepper them with questions (most are answered: "Keep reading." Translation: "we're working on it!"). The cover of Princess Sally #2 in an ad on the same page differs from one which appears on p. 17 of the same issue(!), thus bolstering the "creative differences" theory in Q7. [I am indebted to R.D.B. for the following, since the Sally miniseries has yet to hit the shelves in this corner of Michigan- -I've GOT to stop buying retail and subscribe!] Princess Sally Mini-series #1 [April 1995] "Deadliest of the Species!" written by Mike Kanterovich & Ken Penders, art by Art Mawhinney & Rich Koslowski. Opens with a nice splash page summarizing the struggle so far and describes the main characters (get this: "Antoine is renouned for his military skills" - okayyyy...). Next it recaps Sally's meeting Geoffrey St. John...in StH #20. Sally & Geoffrey are attacked by SWATbots after destroying the facility and manage to beat them off [hey, Ron, let's leave their private lives out of this ;-) ] and exchange some banter in the process (I can't call it friendly but it's not really sarcastic either). They then head back to the camp where some young trainee freedom fighters are waiting for Sally. Geoffrey mistakes them for enemies and jumps a pig (Hamlin) but they're separated by Sally. This establishes some bad blood between Hamlin and Geoffrey that continues all issue. The team proceeds to its next target (an energy substation) and after battling SWATbots and ORBbots manage to destroy it. During the battle Geoffrey saves Hamlin's life but Hamlin still doesn't trust him. That night, when everyone else is asleep, Geoffrey slips away, activates a teleportal, enters some kind of building and descends to its basement where he speaks to a figure in a glass case: Sally!? Also some fan art: two pics of Sally & Bunnie (both NBD), and one of Sally as a dominatrix (!). Princess Sally Miniseries #2 (Summary by Erich Schulman): The story opens with a fight between St. John and Hamlin, and Sally gives Hamlin a scolding. To reach the third, undestroyed substation, the freedom fighters use a new (!?) technology: hang gliders. Arlo's hang glider is hit by the defenses and he is wounded in action; Penelope volunteers to stay with him. Once inside, Sally and St. John are attacked by an octopod, and everyone barely manages to escape the explosions. Upon leaving, they find that Sally and Penelope are gone. Sally says they will return to camp without them (to which Hamlin is opposed), and they never show up again. Did you have your doubts about St. John? That night, St. John replaces Sally with a lookalike robot and delivers the real Sally to Robotnik. Fan mail (singular; only one letter appears): Will Sonic and Sally marry? "Could be." Has Sally met Knuckles? She will in a forthcoming 48-page S&K special. Does Sally have a mother, and if so what does she look like? "Of course...her origin may yet be told." Or [shameless plug] you can read about it in "Bloodlines" in the fanfic section of Rotor's homepage. NOTES FROM THE NET: that's the heading suggested for comix- related posts to a.f.s-h by none other than Paul Castiglia of Archie Comics. Seems P.C. thinks that NftN would make a good subsection of the Sonic Grams, and said so in a recent post. The idea is that you can post to a.f.s-h, and your post (and e-mail address if you want) will be reprinted in NftN. But ONLY if you specify that it's for NftN. Apparently Archie Comics is still getting a feel for whether they should go ahead with the plan, so let's see some support for it! Hmmm, wonder if Sally's e-mail address is princess@frdmftrs.mobius.org ? COMIC PUBLISHERS: For subscriptions and back issues--US & Canada: Archie Comics 325 Fayette Avenue Mamaroneck, NY 10543 (914) 381-5155. $15.00/year US monthly $18.00/year CAN monthly For subscriptions and back issues--United Kingdom (Fleetway Editions comics): Sonic The Comic Subscription Dept. OR Back Issue Zone Aim Ltd. P.O. Box 10 Pallion Industrial Estate Sunderland, SR4 6SN UNITED KINGDOM 01144-91-5102290 L28.60 (=28 pounds, 60 pence)/year UK fortnightly L45.00/year Europe fortnightly L47.00/year Overseas surface mail fortnightly L55.00/year Overseas airmail fortnightly C. OTHER SOURCES Michael Teitelbaum, _Sonic the Hedgehog_ (c)1993; _Sonic the Hedgehog: Robotnik's Revenge_ (c)1994; _Sonic the Hedgehog: Fortress of Fear_ (c)1994: Mahwah, New Jersey: Troll Associates. _Sonic the Hedgehog_ synopsis: COMING SOON _Sonic the Hedgehog: Robotnik's Revenge_ synopsis: one of the Knothole freedom fighters is captured by Robotnik and used as bait to lure Sonic into a trap. In this case, the victim is Bunnie, and the story supposedly explains how she came to be partially roboticized. This account is at odds with the explanation in the comics. In addition, both Uncle Chuck and Muttski in this book has been successfully deroboticized, which conflicts with "Sonic Conversion" and, in fact, the rest of the second season. _Sonic the Hedgehog: Fortress of Fear_ synopsis: COMING SOON OVERSEAS BOOKS: Martin Adams, _Sonic the Hedgehog and the Silicon Warriors_ (c)1993; _Sonic the Hedgehog in Castle Robotnik_ (c)1994; _Sonic the Hedgehog in the Fourth Dimension_ (c)1993; _Sonic the Hedgehog in Robotnik's Laboratory_ (c)1993: London: Virgin. From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 7 12:29:41 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA24540 for sonic-ll; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 12:29:36 -0400 Received: from sonic.segaoa.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA24534 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 12:29:22 -0400 Received: from blackhole.segaoa.com by sonic.segaoa.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA16669; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:41:41 +0800 Received: by blackhole.segaoa.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F856B09@blackhole.segaoa.com>; Fri, 07 Apr 95 09:40:41 PDT From: "Wallis, Mike" To: Sonic mailing list Subject: JPEGs of Tails & Sally Date: Fri, 07 Apr 95 09:40:00 PDT Message-Id: <2F856B09@blackhole.segaoa.com> Encoding: 12 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 content-length: 334 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Last night I posted JPEGs of both Tails and Princess Sally to alt.binaries.pictures.cartoons. I also uploaded the pictures to the following Sonic FTP site: ftp.mv.com in directory /pub/users/rat I hope you all like them! Over the weekend I'll be posting my remaining pictures: one of Sonic and 2 of Knuckles. See ya, -Mike From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 7 12:37:23 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA24598 for sonic-ll; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 12:37:21 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA24591 for sonic@sard.mv.net; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 12:37:20 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 12:37:20 -0400 From: Ratman Message-Id: <199504071637.MAA24591@sard.mv.net> To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: jpegs Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net tails2.jpg and sally.jpg are in: ftp.mv.com /pub/users/rat/sonic/images/ enjoy! Sally is really good, but Tails is very anime ( I hate they way they draw that mouth!!!! Sat AM. version is much better IMHO ) From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 7 13:26:40 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id NAA24868 for sonic-ll; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 13:26:37 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id NAA24862 for sonic; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 13:26:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 13:26:35 -0400 From: Ratman Message-Id: <199504071726.NAA24862@sard.mv.net> To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: hff.gif Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net I just added hff.gif to the sonic images directory for those of us who like the cute cross-eyed cartoony HFF. From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 7 14:23:39 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA25118 for sonic-ll; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 14:23:33 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA25112; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 14:23:32 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 14:21:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman Subject: RE: hff.gif To: sonic@sard.mv.net In-Reply-To: <2F858318@blackhole.segaoa.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, Wallis, Mike wrote: > >I just added hff.gif to the sonic images directory for those > >of us who like the cute cross-eyed cartoony HFF. > > Now, now... There's no need to be sarcastic... :) > > {grin} Well, this is all in fun. I'm smiling :-) the whole time I'm doing this. Hope you take it that way. I ASSUME EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT "HFF" MEANS. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work: paul@mv.mv.com | Play: rat@rat.mv.com WWW : http://www.mv.com/users/rat | FTP : ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat AOL : PaulHurley | CIS : 75014,77 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 7 14:24:56 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA25134 for sonic-ll; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 14:24:55 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA25128; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 14:24:54 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 14:23:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman Subject: RE: jpegs To: sonic@sard.mv.net In-Reply-To: <2F8579EF@blackhole.segaoa.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, Wallis, Mike wrote: > I guess it's a question of cute or cool. Unfortunately, we try to make > Tails in the games look cool, while the marketing and licensing group tries > to make him look cute. It is a battle that. > > -Mike I pick cute. But the other sonic isn't so cool, he's more deformed. I mean he looks like he's in pain. Having that mouth can't be comforitable. :-) cute! cute! cute! let's hear it for CUTE!! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work: paul@mv.mv.com | Play: rat@rat.mv.com WWW : http://www.mv.com/users/rat | FTP : ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat AOL : PaulHurley | CIS : 75014,77 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 7 14:50:24 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA25257 for sonic-ll; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 14:50:18 -0400 Received: from saul4.u.washington.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA25251 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 14:50:14 -0400 Received: by saul4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25534; Fri, 7 Apr 95 12:00:31 -0700 X-Sender: lazuli@saul4.u.washington.edu Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 11:59:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Sloniker To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: New GIFs on ftp.mv.com... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net ...and my quick comments. hff.gif: A shot of the Happy Fun Fox. I've seen it before. I'm not sure if I'd say it looks more like the SatAM or the American comic version. Pretty icky-looking noise on it, though. sally.jpg: The first-season version of Sally (sans jacket), probably from SatAM promotional materials. A little JPEG artifacting, but looks okay. ANyone got a second-season version? tails1.gif: New for me, anyway. A quick sketch of Tails in the style of the SatAM version. Lines are a little clunky, and his fur color's too dark for my taste, but otherwise decent. tails2.jpg: Someone else objected to the anime style of the drawing. I don't agree per se-- I like the rendering of him in the debug screen on Sonic CD, f'rinstance (anybody got a grab of that?)-- but here I agree that something doesn't quite 'work'. I think he doesn't look young enough; he's kinda vertically stretched or something, and looks more like the teenage Sonic then the cute innocent HFF we all know and love. tails_guitar.jpg is in the same style, but the proportions are better so it looks quite nice, IMHO. On a tangential note: a while back, someone posted the address of an alternate Sonic GIF site, which I checked out (natch). They had a few GIFs there that looked like they'd been ripped from the game data; frames of Sonic running, transforming into Super Sonic, going around loops, looking bored, that sort of thing. Anybody know (a) what site that was and (b) who put those GIFs up? I'd like to get in touch with them about some Tails binrips... ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer lazuli@u.washington.edu We are IBM. You will be assimilated. From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 7 14:55:45 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA25276 for sonic-ll; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 14:55:43 -0400 Received: from saul4.u.washington.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA25271 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 14:55:40 -0400 Received: by saul4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27952; Fri, 7 Apr 95 12:06:16 -0700 X-Sender: lazuli@saul4.u.washington.edu Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 12:04:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Sloniker To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: RE: jpegs In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, Ratman wrote: (A series of messages, some in reply to some I haven't seen yet. I may be experiencing technical difficulties... we shall see.) > On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, Wallis, Mike wrote: > > > I guess it's a question of cute or cool. Unfortunately, we try to make > > Tails in the games look cool, while the marketing and licensing group tries > > to make him look cute. It is a battle that. So who says he can't be both at the same time? Personally, I think he looks very cute when he punches his fist up at the end of a level (in Sonic 3 & Knuckles), or clings desperately to a pole as water sweeps by, or gets bored and yaaaaaaawns (Sonic could probably fit his whole fist in there!), or... well. (:3 I think, though, that you should have done something more visually interesting for Super Tails; maybe for Sonic 4 you can give him Do Not Taunt fur? (:3 > But the other sonic isn't so cool, he's more deformed. I mean he looks > like he's in pain. Having that mouth can't be comforitable. :-) Errr, since I haven't (yet) seen the message to which this replies, I ask: what other Sonic? ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer lazuli@u.washington.edu We are IBM. You will be assimilated. From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 7 15:39:41 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id PAA25562 for sonic-ll; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 15:38:54 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id PAA25555; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 15:38:53 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 15:38:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman Subject: RE: hff.gif To: sonic@sard.mv.net In-Reply-To: <2F858B53@blackhole.segaoa.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, Wallis, Mike wrote: > >Well, this is all in fun. I'm smiling :-) the whole time I'm doing this. > >Hope you take it that way. > > You bet! This is great! :) Well, I will keep both cute and cool images in my ftp directory. > >I ASSUME EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT "HFF" MEANS. > > But of course... Happy Fun Fox. (I'm seriously going to try to get that > into the credits of our next Sonic game. It's just too funny!) :P That would be great! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work: paul@mv.mv.com | Play: rat@rat.mv.com WWW : http://www.mv.com/users/rat | FTP : ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat AOL : PaulHurley | CIS : 75014,77 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 7 15:43:01 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id PAA25605 for sonic-ll; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 15:43:00 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id PAA25599; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 15:42:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 15:42:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman Subject: RE: jpegs To: sonic@sard.mv.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, Fred Sloniker wrote: > > But the other sonic isn't so cool, he's more deformed. I mean he looks > > like he's in pain. Having that mouth can't be comforitable. :-) > > Errr, since I haven't (yet) seen the message to which this replies, I > ask: what other Sonic? I'm sorry. I do that a lot. I really should read what I write before I send it. I meant Tails, not Sonic. tails2.jpg in my ftp dir is what i was referring to. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work: paul@mv.mv.com | Play: rat@rat.mv.com WWW : http://www.mv.com/users/rat | FTP : ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat AOL : PaulHurley | CIS : 75014,77 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 7 15:47:38 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id PAA25651 for sonic-ll; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 15:47:32 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id PAA25645; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 15:47:31 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 15:46:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman Subject: RE: New GIFs on ftp.mv.com... (fwd) To: sonic@sard.mv.net Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Did anybody else get this message? I think he meant to send it to the list, but I don't think it got there. Let me know if i'm wrong. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 07 Apr 95 12:36:00 PDT From: Wallis, Mike To: owner-sonic Subject: RE: New GIFs on ftp.mv.com... >tails2.jpg: Someone else objected to the anime style of the drawing. I >don't agree per se-- I like the rendering of him in the debug screen on >Sonic CD, f'rinstance (anybody got a grab of that?)-- but here I agree >that something doesn't quite 'work'. I think he doesn't look young >enough; he's kinda vertically stretched or something, and looks more like >the teenage Sonic then the cute innocent HFF we all know and love. >tails_guitar.jpg is in the same style, but the proportions are better so >it looks quite nice, IMHO. This picture was actually taken from a "Sonic & Knuckles" promotional poster where all three of our heroes were standing on a hill. There is perspective, rather than just a flat picture, hence his fist looks abnormally large... I do agree that Tails does look older than normal, though. Tails_guitar was just a flat poster scan (from a Japanese Sonic calendar). Therefore the proportions seem more "realistic." You'll see once I post the remaining picts of Sonic and Knuckles from the same poster. They both have the perspective look. :) -Mike From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 7 15:56:46 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id PAA25757 for sonic-ll; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 15:56:43 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id PAA25751; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 15:56:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 15:54:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman Subject: quick technical note.. To: sonic@sard.mv.net Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net I hate doing this since it's off topic (what on Mobius does a mailing list have to do with sonic?), but I just want to make sure everyone's clear on something. if you reply to a message posted to the mailing list, it should use the "reply-to:" field, which is sonic@sard.mv.net (soon to be lists.mv.net, but that's a different story). If not that address, then it should go to the actual sender of the message. But with some people (so far only Wallis@segaoa.com ) are sending it to owner-sonic which is just the list owners of the sonic mailing list. Make sure your messages are going to sonic and not owner-sonic. Look at the message headers to see what I mean by "reply-to" and "from". There. glad that's out of the way. back to sonic... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work: paul@mv.mv.com | Play: rat@rat.mv.com WWW : http://www.mv.com/users/rat | FTP : ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat AOL : PaulHurley | CIS : 75014,77 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 7 17:42:31 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id RAA26486 for sonic-ll; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 17:42:22 -0400 Received: from sonic.segaoa.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id RAA26481 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 17:42:11 -0400 Received: from blackhole.segaoa.com by sonic.segaoa.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA18027; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 14:54:35 +0800 Received: by blackhole.segaoa.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F85B45F@blackhole.segaoa.com>; Fri, 07 Apr 95 14:53:35 PDT From: "Wallis, Mike" To: Sonic mailing list Subject: RE: jpegs Date: Fri, 07 Apr 95 14:53:00 PDT Message-Id: <2F85B45F@blackhole.segaoa.com> Encoding: 16 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 content-length: 685 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >So who says he can't be both at the same time? Personally, I think he >looks very cute when he punches his fist up at the end of a level (in >Sonic 3 & Knuckles), or clings desperately to a pole as water sweeps by, >or gets bored and yaaaaaaawns (Sonic could probably fit his whole fist in >there!), or... well. (:3 I think, though, that you should have done >something more visually interesting for Super Tails; maybe for Sonic 4 >you can give him Do Not Taunt fur? (:3 That artwork is actually based upon the Japanese Tails model. He *is* cute, and cool. {grin} That's why he's such a great character! Of course, I don't need you tell you guys that, do I... :) -Mike From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 7 18:27:03 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id SAA26579 for sonic-ll; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 18:26:48 -0400 Received: from stein1.u.washington.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id SAA26574 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 18:26:45 -0400 Received: by stein1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07215; Fri, 7 Apr 95 15:38:52 -0700 X-Sender: lazuli@stein1.u.washington.edu Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 15:38:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Sloniker To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: several messages In-Reply-To: <2F85B45F@blackhole.segaoa.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, Ratman wrote: > But the other sonic isn't so cool, he's more deformed. I mean he looks > like he's in pain. Having that mouth can't be comforitable. :-) [...] > I meant Tails, not Sonic. tails2.jpg in my ftp dir is what i was > referring to. I dunno. I think it looks kinda cute. (:3 And fitting of a kitsune, don't you think, that he shouldn't look quite real? (American versions of Tails tend to make him look like his cranium's about to explode...) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, Wallis, Mike wrote: > But of course... Happy Fun Fox. (I'm seriously going to try to get that > into the credits of our next Sonic game. It's just too funny!) :P (grins) I hope you do. I *really* hope you do. That would be *so* cool, especially considering I started it (on this list, at least)... (:3 > This picture [of Tails] was actually taken from a "Sonic & Knuckles" > promotional poster where all three of our heroes were standing on a > hill. There is perspective, rather than just a flat picture, hence his > fist looks abnormally large... I do agree that Tails does look older > than normal, though. Can you supply us with the whole promo poster, then? Or do you only have access to its component parts? > Tails_guitar was just a flat poster scan (from a Japanese Sonic > calendar). Oooh, I want! (:3 (I finally got my Happy Fun Tails plush tail. Goes nicely with my Happy Meal Toy.) > That artwork is actually based upon the Japanese Tails model. Which artwork? The particular sequences I mentioned? If so, what did you do? (:3 > He *is* cute, and cool. {grin} That's why he's such a great character! > Of course, I don't need you tell you guys that, do I... :) Not a chance. I still have my 14-gemmed save position with Super Happy Fun Tails. (:3 ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer lazuli@u.washington.edu Fred's Sixth Law: The one thing you're not paying attention to is the one thing you should be. From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 7 19:17:11 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id TAA26766 for sonic-ll; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 19:17:09 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id TAA26761 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 19:17:07 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) id TAA02497; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 19:23:20 -0400 Message-Id: <199504072323.TAA02497@use.usit.net> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 95 19:29:26 EDT From: (Erich Schulman KTN4CA Team OS/2) To: sonic@sard.mv.net X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.05 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: The new image files Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Many thanks to Mike Wallis and Ratman for putting the new images on the ftp site! I liked all the new images, but my favorite is hff.gif. The only thing harder to resist than a cute picture of Tails is Tails himself (g). Besides more Tails, I'd also like to see more images of Sally, and maybe too a group pic of all the Freedom Fighters. |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| | A! JW2 WAR++ PI~ BR+i SL++++i SK+++ RI++^ RU+ GDF BU+ MI- MM KK-- | | P++ D $++ E59 Ee5 Eee35 TRita Ay68 M | | "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog | |-- A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! ------------------------------| From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 7 19:17:46 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id TAA26781 for sonic-ll; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 19:17:45 -0400 Received: from huey.csun.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id TAA26776 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 19:17:43 -0400 Received: from localhost (vboao0f2@localhost) by huey.csun.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id QAA28911; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 16:26:02 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 15:46:58 +0800 (PST) From: Sonic the Hedgehog Subject: Newest Tails image To: SonicMail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >From Sonic The Hedgehog, Hello friends and fans. I recently uploaded TailsDraw2.jpg to rat's ftp site. Hope you enjoy the drawing I did and compare it with the inset picture on that graphic. :^) See for yourself how good I can enlarge and draw. Rat - you should be proud as I did the image on non-lined paper and thanks for the terrific graphic advice! I also touched up some of my favorite drawings. The Files I uploaded are : TailsDraw2.jpg Sonic1.jpg Sonic2.jpg Rotor.jpg And I'm working on a colored in version of the Neutral Zone as depicted in Archie's comic book and will post it when it is done. Its GIGANTIC, thus taking me a while to do stuff, but it will be done shortly, hopefully. Stay tuned for more files. Please let me know if the files viewed correctly. Thanks. Sonic The Hedgehog World's Largest Sonic Archives CURATOR/COLLECTOR Bryant Melesko PS: I am looking for a person who can help me by archiving the files. I know this site is the only one so far that can accomodoate files. I can donate more files, but I know ratman has limited space handy. So please let me know where else I can put the files I have ? From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 7 20:01:37 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id UAA26858 for sonic-ll; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:01:31 -0400 Received: from sonic.segaoa.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id UAA26853 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:01:24 -0400 Received: from blackhole.segaoa.com by sonic.segaoa.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA18508; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 17:13:37 +0800 Received: by blackhole.segaoa.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F85D4F5@blackhole.segaoa.com>; Fri, 07 Apr 95 17:12:37 PDT From: "Wallis, Mike" To: Sonic mailing list Subject: Re: several messages Date: Fri, 07 Apr 95 17:12:00 PDT Message-Id: <2F85D4F5@blackhole.segaoa.com> Encoding: 31 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 content-length: 1210 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >I dunno. I think it looks kinda cute. (:3 And fitting of a kitsune, >don't you think, that he shouldn't look quite real? (American versions >of Tails tend to make him look like his cranium's about to explode...) Haha! :) That's one way of looking at it, I suppose. >(grins) I hope you do. I *really* hope you do. That would be *so* >cool, especially considering I started it (on this list, at least)... (:3 I'll do my best. No promises, but we just may be able to sneak it in... :) >Can you supply us with the whole promo poster, then? Or do you only have >access to its component parts? Unfortunately, the poster is 20x24, and thus too large to scan... I've scanned each character individually in order to at least give you guys something... Any suggestions on how I might get the entire posted scanned??? >> That artwork is actually based upon the Japanese Tails model. >Which artwork? The particular sequences I mentioned? If so, what did >you do? (:3 Yep, those sequences... Actually, all animations of Tails were based on the Japanese models. I didn't do any of it, because both Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles were released before I joined Sega. Have a great weekend! -Mike From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 7 22:04:15 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA27142 for sonic-ll; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 22:04:04 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA27136; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 22:04:02 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 22:02:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman Subject: Re: The new image files To: sonic@sard.mv.net In-Reply-To: <199504072323.TAA02497@use.usit.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, it was written: > Many thanks to Mike Wallis and Ratman for putting the new images on the ftp site! No prob.. > I liked all the new images, but my favorite is hff.gif. Thank you! Someone who agrees with me! > The only thing harder to resist than a cute picture of Tails is Tails himself (g). But he's all the way on Mobius. :-( --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work: paul@mv.mv.com | Play: rat@rat.mv.com WWW : http://www.mv.com/users/rat | FTP : ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat AOL : PaulHurley | CIS : 75014,77 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 7 22:58:51 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA27244 for sonic-ll; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 22:58:49 -0400 Received: from holodeck.cc.vt.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA27239 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 22:58:47 -0400 Message-Id: <199504080258.WAA27239@sard.mv.net> Received: from jpegnato.async.vt.edu by holodeck.cc.vt.edu with SMTP (8.6.10/16.2) id XAA07274; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 23:10:56 -0400 X-Sender: jpegnato@mail.vt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 07 Apr 1995 23:11:41 +0600 To: sonic@sard.mv.net From: jpegnato@vt.edu (Jeffrey Pegnato) Subject: Re: The new image files X-Mailer: Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, it was written: > >> Many thanks to Mike Wallis and Ratman for putting the new images on the ftp site! > >No prob.. > >> I liked all the new images, but my favorite is hff.gif. > >Thank you! Someone who agrees with me! > >> The only thing harder to resist than a cute picture of Tails is Tails himself (g). > >But he's all the way on Mobius. :-( So what? let's all take a trip to Mobius!!! As 'net Freedom Fighters, what's to stop us? Tails, Sally, Sonic, and the whole gang are only a fictitious universe away... From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 8 15:37:15 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id PAA29398 for sonic-ll; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 15:36:53 -0400 Received: from spot.Colorado.EDU by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id PAA29393 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 15:36:50 -0400 Received: from Freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU (freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU [140.226.1.8]) by spot.Colorado.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) with ESMTP id NAA26182 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 13:49:09 -0600 Received: (from av643@localhost) by Freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU (8.6.8/8.6.6) id NAA13539; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 13:49:04 -0600 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 13:49:04 -0600 Message-Id: <199504081949.NAA13539@Freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU> From: av643@Freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU (Dan Ramos) To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: The new image files Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net > So what? let's all take a trip to Mobius!!! > As 'net Freedom Fighters, what's to stop us? > Tails, Sally, Sonic, and the whole gang are only a fictitious > universe away... Fictitious?! HEY!! Whattya talkin' about?! Get yourself on FurTooniaMUCK and visit Mobius...at least, I don't THINK the MUCK if fictitious. :) tel 198.211.131.13 9999 From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 8 16:38:54 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id QAA29530 for sonic-ll; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 16:38:29 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id QAA29525 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 16:38:27 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) id QAA00774; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 16:44:52 -0400 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 16:44:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2" To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: The new image files In-Reply-To: <199504080258.WAA27239@sard.mv.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, Jeffrey Pegnato wrote: > >But he's all the way on Mobius. :-( > > So what? let's all take a trip to Mobius!!! > As 'net Freedom Fighters, what's to stop us? Remember the story Craig Moore and I are co-writing? Yeah, that one. In the still-developing story, we are now starting our first full day on Mobius. Everyone on the mailing list is now on Mobius. And if I recall correctly, everyone who returned the somewhat infamous survey has had their name mentioned at least once so far. Those who did not return a survey or have subscribed recently are anonymous parts of any of four groups. Two more notes for those who did return surveys. 1. It looks like everyone is going to get their first choice of location. 2. I hope to send out a new status report soon. Unfortunately, my co-writer has experienced a major hardware failure. > Tails, Sally, Sonic, and the whole gang are only a fictitious > universe away... I like to think cartoons create their own reality that exists apart from our reality. |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| | A! JW2 WAR++ PI~ BR+i SL++++i SK+++ RI++^ RU+ GDF BU+ MI- MM KK-- | | P++ D $++ E59 Ee5 Eee35 TRita Ay68 M | | "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog | |-- A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! ------------------------------| From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 8 20:22:48 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id UAA00149 for sonic-ll; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 20:22:29 -0400 Received: from smtp.utexas.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id UAA00144 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 20:22:27 -0400 Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by smtp.utexas.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA00903 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 19:34:09 -0500 Received: from slip-1-65.ots.utexas.edu (slip-1-65.ots.utexas.edu [128.83.204.65]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA14833 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 19:32:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199504090032.TAA14833@mail.utexas.edu> X-Sender: n5una@mail.utexas.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 08 Apr 1995 19:30:56 -0500 To: sonic@sard.mv.net From: n5una@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU (Shawn Wolski) Subject: Sonic FAQ now in HTML! Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Hi guys! I finished converting Dan's "Sonic FAQ File" post into HTML earlier today. I had to make a few changes here and there to insure that it would conform with HTML standard, but all the information is still there, with some extras I managed to include to make it more effective. Part of the advantage to HTML is that you can select a highlighted section of text and instantly jump to someplace else. A LOT of that is in there. You'll find it in my "Sonic the Hedgehog Advocate" section. I thank Dan for allowing this project to go forward. Hope all of you like it. I'll be watching the "Sonic FAQ File" for future updates in order to keep everything as synchronous as possible. ________________________________________________________________ Shawn Wolski, N5UNA An Indoctrinated Sonic T. Hedgehog Story Author "But I guess some things are better left in the past." -Sally, quote from "The Temporal Syndrome" n5una@mail.utexas.edu and my under construction home page: http://wwwvms.utexas.edu/~n5una/index.html _______________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 8 22:06:34 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA00573 for sonic-ll; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 22:06:30 -0400 Received: from ns.ge.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA00568 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 22:06:28 -0400 Received: from engr.erie.ge.com ([3.14.4.3]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA29020 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 22:18:50 -0400 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 22:18:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Ron Bauerle To: sonic@sard.mv.net CC: BAUERLE@engr.erie.ge.com Message-Id: <950408221849.e42d@engr.erie.ge.com> Subject: RE: quick technical note.. Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >From: SMTP%"owner-sonic@sard.mv.net" 7-APR-1995 16:09:17.98 >From: Ratman >Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >if you reply to a message posted to the mailing list, it should use the >"reply-to:" field, which is sonic@sard.mv.net (soon to be lists.mv.net, >but that's a different story). If not that address, then it should go to >the actual sender of the message. Unfortunately, my VAX mail system uses the first From: field above for replies, not the Reply-To: field. So if I want to reply to a message, I basically have to forward or send it (with my comments) as a separate message, which forces me to re-type the subject headers in. When the list first started up, this wasn't the case; the first header was "sonic", not "owner-sonic", but it later changed. Any reason why it can't be changed back for those of us with less than state-of-the art mail programs? Thanks, RDB From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sun Apr 9 00:01:21 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA00827 for sonic-ll; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 00:01:10 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA00821; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 00:01:08 -0400 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 00:01:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: RE: quick technical note.. In-Reply-To: <950408221849.e42d@engr.erie.ge.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net I'm going to upgrade majordomo to version 1.93 (we are now at 1.92). I hope it doesn't do anything bad. COMING SOON! - Digest mode.... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work: paul@mv.mv.com | Play: rat@rat.mv.com WWW : http://www.mv.com/users/rat | FTP : ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat AOL : PaulHurley | CIS : 75014,77 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sun Apr 9 00:52:23 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA01662 for sonic-ll; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 00:52:13 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA01656 for sonic; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 00:52:11 -0400 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 00:52:11 -0400 From: Ratman Message-Id: <199504090452.AAA01656@sard.mv.net> To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: testing Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net well, new majordomo seemed to not work too well. I'll have to look at it tomorrow when i'm more awake. for now, i reverted back to the old version. this is just a live test to make sure it's still working.. sigh. :-( From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sun Apr 9 00:58:13 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA01762 for sonic-ll; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 00:58:12 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA01755 for sonic; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 00:58:11 -0400 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 00:58:11 -0400 From: Ratman Message-Id: <199504090458.AAA01755@sard.mv.net> To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: brainstorm! Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net i think i fixed the new majordomo this is a test. please bear with me folks. if this doesn't work, I won't bug you with these tests again. From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sun Apr 9 08:00:16 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id IAA02841 for sonic-ll; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 08:00:06 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id IAA02836 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 08:00:04 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) id IAA19092; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 08:06:37 -0400 Message-Id: <199504091206.IAA19092@use.usit.net> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 95 20:02:36 EDT From: (Erich Schulman KTN4CA Team OS/2) To: sonic@sard.mv.net X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.05 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Re: several messages Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Fri, 7 Apr 1995 15:38:52 -0700 (PDT) you wrote: >Oooh, I want! (:3 (I finally got my Happy Fun Tails plush tail. Goes >nicely with my Happy Meal Toy.) I wasn't aware of any Sonic-related Happy Meal toys. Please send or post details for inclusion in the Sonic Merchandise List. There are probably even more things out there than I'm aware of. So to everyone on the list, if you've never seen the Merchandise List (or if you've not consulted it lately), get a copy from the mailing list software and see if there's anything else not included but should be. Then post or mail details to me so an update can be issued. |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| | A! JW2 WAR++ PI~ BR+i SL++++i SK+++ RI++^ RU+ GDF BU+ MI- MM KK-- | | P++ D $++ E59 Ee5 Eee35 TRita Ay68 M | | "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog | |-- A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! ------------------------------| From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sun Apr 9 10:08:00 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id KAA02944 for sonic-ll; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 10:07:34 -0400 Received: from smtp.utexas.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id KAA02939 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 10:07:32 -0400 Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by smtp.utexas.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA11893 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 09:19:13 -0500 Received: from slip-16-10.ots.utexas.edu (slip-16-10.ots.utexas.edu [128.83.111.42]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA23955 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 09:17:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199504091417.JAA23955@mail.utexas.edu> X-Sender: n5una@mail.utexas.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 09 Apr 1995 09:16:12 -0500 To: sonic@sard.mv.net From: n5una@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU (Shawn Wolski) Subject: Sonic Graphics from UK Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net (This is in response to a post that I saw a day ago on Sonic Net. Unfortunately, I have misplaced the mail message, and it's either buried under all the new mail I have or otherwise lost. But if you read this message, you'll know who it's for.) The Sonic graphics (the screen shots where he's shown running, jumping, etc.) were located at this address: http://www.cm.cf.ac.uk:80/Games/console/sega. The last time I tried to download something from there, even the small files took more than a "Sonic Second". In fact, I had to wait about 5 minutes to download a 3 kB file(!) If you want something from this address, get a good book to read if it's a large (say 50 kB or more for example) file. My current modem technology consists of a SupraFax 14.4, running at 14.4 kbaud. It shouldn't take this long to download a file (theoretically), but I guess the connect- tion there is either loaded, or they have a slow server, or there's some other reason. ________________________________________________________________ Shawn Wolski, N5UNA An Indoctrinated Sonic T. Hedgehog Story Author "But I guess some things are better left in the past." -Sally, quote from "The Temporal Syndrome" n5una@mail.utexas.edu and my under construction home page: http://wwwvms.utexas.edu/~n5una/index.html _______________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sun Apr 9 14:23:29 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA03484 for sonic-ll; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 14:23:05 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA03477; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 14:23:04 -0400 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 14:23:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic Graphics from UK In-Reply-To: <199504091417.JAA23955@mail.utexas.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Sun, 9 Apr 1995, Shawn Wolski wrote: > The Sonic graphics (the screen shots where he's shown running, jumping, etc.) > were located at this address: http://www.cm.cf.ac.uk:80/Games/console/sega. > The last time I tried to download something from there, even the small files > took > more than a "Sonic Second". In fact, I had to wait about 5 minutes to > download a > 3 kB file(!) If you want something from this address, get a good book to > read if it's > a large (say 50 kB or more for example) file. It went fast for me. I just tried it now. Maybe it was a passing thing, like something was bogging down the server, or the connection was bad (did you try pinging them? see if there were a lot of lost packets). I noticed tails.gif is there. that's the cute-cartoony picture of the HFF. That's probably where I got the picture from. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work: paul@mv.mv.com | Play: rat@rat.mv.com WWW : http://www.mv.com/users/rat | FTP : ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat AOL : PaulHurley | CIS : 75014,77 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sun Apr 9 16:38:15 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id QAA05743 for sonic-ll; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 16:37:44 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id QAA05738 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 16:37:41 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) id QAA00551; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 16:32:25 -0400 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 16:32:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2" To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic Graphics from UK In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Sun, 9 Apr 1995, Ratman wrote: > On Sun, 9 Apr 1995, Shawn Wolski wrote: > > > The Sonic graphics (the screen shots where he's shown running, jumping, etc.) > > were located at this address: http://www.cm.cf.ac.uk:80/Games/console/sega. > > The last time I tried to download something from there, even the small files > > took > > more than a "Sonic Second". In fact, I had to wait about 5 minutes to > > It went fast for me. I just tried it now. Maybe it was a passing thing, > like something was bogging down the server, or the connection was bad I was just on, and it was very fast for me.. almost as if Sonic himself was bringing the files to me. It probably did help, though, that I was using lynx, a non-graphical Web browser for Unix (and DOS). |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| | A! JW2 WAR++ PI~ BR+i SL++++i SK+++ RI++^ RU+ GDF BU+ MI- MM KK-- | | P++ D $++ E59 Ee5 Eee35 TRita Ay68 M | | "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog | |-- A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! ------------------------------| From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sun Apr 9 20:37:58 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id UAA06829 for sonic-ll; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 20:37:42 -0400 Received: from serv0.cae.wisc.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id UAA06824 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 20:37:39 -0400 Received: from sun-10.cae.wisc.edu (sun-10.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.20.149]) by serv0.cae.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with ESMTP id TAA18069 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 19:37:40 -0500 From: James Firmiss Received: (firmiss@localhost) by sun-10.cae.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.9) id TAA06535 for sonic@sard.mv.net; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 19:37:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199504100037.TAA06535@sun-10.cae.wisc.edu> Subject: RE: jpegs To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Sun, 9 Apr 95 19:37:42 CDT In-Reply-To: <2F85B45F@blackhole.segaoa.com>; from "Wallis, Mike" at Apr 7, 95 2:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Eep. For a while I thought this mailing list was dying but it seems to have picked up again. --- Yeah.. I know.. Tails is cute in all (in hff.gif) but my favotire picture at Rat's site has to be 'sally.jpg' Thanks Mike for providing that. I was at the mall and again saw plush Sonics and Tails. I'm rather disappointed at how Plush Tails turned out and so far haven't gotten one. I got the plush Sonic though. I think its the exact same brand as in the 'sondoll.gif' (I've seen at least three different version of plush Sonic). Didn't someone say a plush Knuckles was planned? (I never heard plans for a plush Sally... I'd like to see one though) Speaking of things I'd like to see... --- Screen Shots I'd Like To See: I think the final scene where Sonic (and/or Tails and/or Knuckes) jumping toward the screen [from all Sonic games that I know of] might make a good JPEGs. If I had the equipment to do that kind of stuff I'd probably make JPEGs of those scenes myself :) AT&T "You Will" Devices I'd Like to See. Ever see that AT&T "You Will" commercial with the little computer-dog 'assistant' living in that woman's computer? It might be fun to have something like that but with Sonic and the rest of the Freedom Fighters. You could use different Freedom Fighters for different tasks (and if one's busy another would take his/her place). If you tried checking up on 'Sonic' while he was having trouble with your request the system might show 'Sonic' having a hard time on a mission dealing with Swatbots or something. Sonic might make some snide comments if he had to deal with a computer using 'Mario Brothers' or other Nintendo characters for its 'assistants'. (Of course.. what happens if he deals with a computer which ALSO uses Sonic & Crew for its agents?) Just a silly idea I came up with not long ago... but who knows. By 2005 it might be commonplace. -- When asked.. "What do you want to see in the next 'Sonic' game?" James Sime replied, "Thats easy, I want ... 'The Sonic Friends Network with Dionne Robotnik'" PS. ^^^^^ Um.. Mike Wallis? Ya think Sega might consider a game like this?... Hrm.. Didn't think so. From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sun Apr 9 20:38:18 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id UAA06847 for sonic-ll; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 20:38:16 -0400 Received: from smtp.utexas.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id UAA06836 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 20:38:13 -0400 Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by smtp.utexas.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA27862 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 19:37:52 -0500 Received: from slip-21-3.ots.utexas.edu (slip-21-3.ots.utexas.edu [128.83.111.163]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA10418 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 19:35:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199504100035.TAA10418@mail.utexas.edu> X-Sender: n5una@mail.utexas.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 09 Apr 1995 19:33:57 -0500 To: sonic@sard.mv.net From: n5una@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU (Shawn Wolski) Subject: "Mirror Image": Part 1 (3/3) Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net In warp space, Dulcy was unable to see anything in the "otherspace" which she and David were now in, so she experienced the flight utilizing her other senses. She felt no push or pull during warp travel, not even in the initial acceleration phase when the graviton warp field accrued the energy to pass into FTL space. There was no feeling of warmth or cold, aside from the heat that was generated in her from her instinctive response to the potentially hazardous endeavor. No sound was detected by her sensitive dragon ears, nor any discernible odor from the environment detectable with her nose. Opening her eyes slightly, she noticed a blinding white light that permeated the visible universe. It then exploded into a flash of blue light as David decelerated himself and Dulcy to a low-sublight velocity. The Cerenkov radiation from the dying warp field rapidly dissipated, spreading its graviton shearing force throughout the sky. They had successfully returned to their normal universe. All her senses returned to her, the most prominent one being her sense of gravity. Without compensating for the differences of transition from a gravimetrically-stable point in space to a total loss of it, she began falling at a rate of 9.8 meters per second squared. A scream from Dulcy notified David of his friend's sinking condition. A swoop downward executed by the vulpine plus a retrieval spared the dragon from a certain demise. From their location, three kilometers above ground level, the alternative would have most certainly be destructive. Dulcy eventually became aware of the fact that her decent had been terminated, plus the feeling of warm paws and arms on her abdomen. Able to control her wings again, she flapped them, and felt the release of pressure from her stomach, indicating that her savior determined that she was flight-capable again. She would live to be a Freedom Fighter for another day. "Please forgive me, Dulcy," David said with a concerned look on his face as he came to a hover a meter in front of her. "I apparently didn't allow you the required amount of time to act upon the warp/realspace transition. Are you injured in any way?" "Nothing besides my pride," Dulcy returned with embarrassment, belatedly realizing that she had failed to use the very piece of equipment given to her by evolution, as opposed to David's bequest by complex design of his rotor/nacelles and many hours of testing. If only privately, she had been upstaged by an artificial lifeform that probably wasn't even intended to be flight-capable in the first place. But David had progressed beyond his original design, both in technology and mentality. She knew in the back of her mind that the last thing her closest comrade would think of was the feeling of superiority. The compuorganic fox apparently wasn't convinced by her statement of health. He activated all his sensors to investigate the true nature behind the dragon's tone of voice. His sensors downloaded the required data billions of times in a nanosecond, and his computers checked and rechecked the data for validity. Seeing this take place and realizing what David was doing, she spoke with somewhat more control a second later, "No need to look me over, David. I'm fine. I was just a little thrown back by the sudden stop." He apparently wasn't completely satisfied with her explanation, but also wasn't inclined to continue the conversation further on what was obviously a situation more of disgrace than physical harm, if only to Dulcy. "I have located ten possible sites for us to investigate," he began, now all Freedom Fighter Commander again. "There is an area of interest as a possible habitation site 700.7 kilometers from our location. It has an unusually high concentration of metal, possible fuel resources, and water. Are you prepared for the operation?" "Yes," she dictated with more determination than she felt she had. "Let's go." She was having second thoughts about practicing her landing procedure, but she and David had both signed an unwritten pact to complete a mission and to keep a promise that they made the past night. For her to refuse would be futile, due to the fact that her associate wasn't the typical kind of person that would understand excuses. You either agreed on a promise with David and kept it, or you never approached him with the proposal in the first place. No gray area existed in his interpretation, part of what made him the fox he was today. Two seconds later, she was reflecting on her vulpine colleague's philosophy at another point in the space/time continuum... ...And en route to her first touchdown of the day. She and David were both flying (under their own power this time) above a plateau, near the border of the Dark Mountains and the Great Unknown. Dulcy didn't exactly know what was down in that area, but David had been able to study a great deal of geological data about many locations on Mobius, from what little information there was available at Knothole. The Dark Mountains region was at the forefront of his interest. 'Dark Mountains,' his compuorganic computer systems instantly identified. 'A 1.45 billion year-old exposed intrusion of gabbro, formed by an unexplained and unusual rise of magma through the crust. Possibilities: natural gaps in crust, or a cavity induced by a meteor. Meteor theory may explain the high concentration of iridium and radiogenic potassium near the Kathurc and Dueler age boundaries. Has been subjected to time and erosion, but apparently still remains prominent; not worn away. Isostacy (the balance between erosion and rock rise to compensate for displaced mass) may explain why the area has not been lost to time.' While spending a picosecond to formulate his own interpretations about the geological significance of the oldest known rock on Mobius, he executed a local scan of their immediate point over the border. What his sensors told him was in the fifty kilometer radius he didn't exactly care for. Acting as nonchalant as he could giving the potential outcome of their continued flight pattern over a now-designated hazardous area, he spoke to the dragon, "Try over there, Dulcy. That should permit you a long landing space." He indicated the desired area to her with a 5 microwatt phaser, sufficient for location purposes; not as a weapon. "Are you sure about this, David?" she asked, nervously. The only response from the black and gray vulpine was a stern glare. No arguments in regard to the proposition from him would be listened to or considered. That much was made clear sans vocal dialect. "Going down," was all she could submit with resignation. She tilted her body down, continuing until she obtained a thirty degree aspect with the ground. She was able to maintain a stable approach flight until she was about half a kilometer above the granitic rock of her landing strip. At that height, her tension built into a gargantuan monster, clasping her in its jaws. First, her stability wavered; then eventually developed into more of an uncontrolled fall rather than a controlled flight. Noticing his companion's deviation, David conjured a plan to give Dulcy something else to focus on. Matching his velocity to hers and surpassing it by 20%, he flew under her abdominal region, then grasped her pouch lip as he disengaged the rotation of his rotor/nacelles. They were both quickly approaching the ground, so it was necessary to act with as much haste as possible. He called to his peer, "Dulcy, to what degree do you enjoy my company?" He retained his grip on her pouch, the induced wind shear now threatening to strip him away from his stronghold as the dragon accelerated toward the ground. "A lot. Why'd you ask, David?" she inquired, baffled that her friend would demand such information from her at a time like this. "Prove it to me," he commanded as he expertly flipped himself into her pouch. He had no intention of leaving it, regardless of the outcome of her landing. The pressure mounted, only this time of a different sort. In Dulcy's mind, the effects of the landings that she would normally perform were now out of the question. This time, David would be right under her if the touchdown wasn't successful. A mistake here would be injurious, if not fatal, to him. Being compressed between approximately one metric ton of dragon plus a magnitude of two billion times that from the granite and acceleration due to gravity wouldn't exactly allow the vulpine to be in an amicable mood afterwards. It would have to be perfect the first time, period. Her approach straightened out at about 100 meters above her target. At about fifty meters above ground, she gradually raised her body to a point beyond being perpendicular to it, taking precautions with her wings and the rest of her aerodynamic aspect. She slowed as the aerodynamic drag took effect, but she had compensated a bit too much for her velocity decrease. Her landing pattern would have been excellent. The only problem was, in order for it to be so, the granite plateau had to be in a position two meters higher than it was then. Both fox and dragon experienced a mutual session off attraction to the dense igneous rock, then a debilitating dizziness induced from their resonance to the impact. David's graviton differential stabilizers dissipated the shock, conducting the resonance and spreading it throughout his body to prevent a focused point in the field. The majority of it transferred to Dulcy, enhancing her own disorientation. She had a tenuous contact with the ground, swaying forward and back, as if unable to decide what to do next. He leaped out of her pouch to the more stable granite, and used his navigational deflector to assist the beleaguered dragon front-down. The field created an air cushion between the excited gravitons and her body, and gradually compressed downward until she was at a stable position on the ground. She remained sprawled out in that position for about a minute, then woke up from the shock. "Ooohh, hello Ma. Yes, I cleaned the cave," she warbled. She then continued muttering phrases that either only she understood, or that came out by a reflex reaction to a particularly unfavorable landing. Hoping to give Dulcy a reference point to the present, David said, "Excuse me, Dulcy, but I don't believe I understood your mannerisms in that dialect. Would you please explain that to me?" THAT gave her the incentive she needed. After forcing the disorientation out of her head, she rose back to a standing position, regarding her comrade with nervous concern. David returned the focus of attention, only with look of mock discordance. The two Freedom Fighters, commander and subordinate, gauged each other with a novel intensity. David finally spoke again, sparing his female associate the trial of wordless communication. "You don't wish to continue our friendship, do you Dulcy?" Despite what could have been a adverse situation for him, he wasn't in a mood to be severe. In fact, he was willing to be almost jovial about it. Dulcy, on the other paw, did not anticipate the fox's approximately convivial attitude, and reacted accordingly. "Oh no, I really do, David. It's that...weeelll, the ground was coming up too fast , and I had to do..." She trailed off into hopeless babble about the events that transpired in the landing, while her commander gradually felt an increase in his humor register. When the register read 256, he initiated an uncontrollable laughter subroutine. After he had reacquired some of his control, he said, "I'm afraid I am the one who must apologize, Dulcy. I just find the situation so...humorous. I thought that you, of anyone, would have no trouble knowing exactly where ground level was." More guffaws from David, then Dulcy chimed in her own, as she thought the matter over herself. David's slackened muzzle immediately contorted and hardened into a grave stare. While he and Dulcy were both learning more about each other's humor, his sensors had been scanning the entire area around them within a fifty kilometer radius. Within that radius was a concealed base (which explained the high-metallic concentration). He counted the Hover Units, SWATBots and other robots in the base, along with other items of interest: fusion and geothermal power sources, advanced computer technology, and weapons systems. David had detected all of this on his first scan pass in the air, and again here on the ground. He had anticipated that the remote laser defense systems would be able to strike them down from the air. What he HAD NOT anticipated was that the 1.56 MW laser emitters and targeting systems had greater than 180 degrees of vertical axis displacement capability, since the apparent design indicated otherwise in his scan. He was correct in the assumption, but the lasers were apparently able to obtain more vertical axis displacement by permanently damaging their constrictive outer shells. One of the lasers had an emitter tube in this configuration, and also had both Freedom Fighters detected and targeted. An attosecond after David detected that the optical targeting sensors had a definite sight picture, a 630 kW discharge of focused red light was expelled from the emitter. The beam traveled at 300 megameters/second to its targets, the air in the immediate vicinity of the focused light discharge screaming with protest as the lethal energy forced its way to the ground. ...to be continued ________________________________________________________________ Shawn Wolski, N5UNA An Indoctrinated Sonic T. Hedgehog Story Author "But I guess some things are better left in the past." -Sally, quote from "The Temporal Syndrome" n5una@mail.utexas.edu and my under construction home page: http://wwwvms.utexas.edu/~n5una/index.html _______________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sun Apr 9 20:38:20 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id UAA06852 for sonic-ll; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 20:38:18 -0400 Received: from smtp.utexas.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id UAA06840 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 20:38:14 -0400 Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by smtp.utexas.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA27863 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 19:37:52 -0500 Received: from slip-21-3.ots.utexas.edu (slip-21-3.ots.utexas.edu [128.83.111.163]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA10401 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 19:35:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199504100035.TAA10401@mail.utexas.edu> X-Sender: n5una@mail.utexas.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 09 Apr 1995 19:33:36 -0500 To: sonic@sard.mv.net From: n5una@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU (Shawn Wolski) Subject: "Mirror Image": Part 1 (1/3) Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Sonic the Hedgehog "Mirror Image": Part 1 of 3 by Shawn Wolski The author will accept questions and comments via e-mail at the following address: n5una@mail.utexas.edu Sonic the Hedgehog and other associated characters are based on the creations of Service and Games (Sega), Archie Comic Publications, and the Sonic the Hedgehog cartoons (Saturday morning issue) created by DiC and Sega of America. Additional characters that appear are the original creations of their respective authors: David Pistone, Holly-Beth Vixie Kraft, Shawn Wolski. Some of the references in the story are somewhat "Star Trek" oriented to varying degrees, so in the event that Paramount has a copyright on subjects displayed here, the author refers the reader to "Star Trek: The Next Generation Technical Manual", written by Rick Sternbach and Michael Okuda. Technology in this work is either a direct translation in some cases, or adaptations made by the author that are based on the technology from the source indicated. This work is protected under various copyright laws. The author grants his permission for free distribution, under the premise that the work retains its original format. No other utilization of the following work, monetary or otherwise, is permitted. Copyrighted by Shawn Wolski, (c) 1995. Temporal Notice: The events detailed here take place in early fall (October 12th by Terran equivalent), year 3236. Present day... The month of September had been a tedious and very difficult one for all the Freedom Fighter groups. Once every thirteen years, for climatological reasons unknown, the winter season had a rather malicious habit of arriving too promptly for those that were unprepared for it. The end result: Knothole had been almost been at the level of desperation in supply distribution; since after the war ended with Robotnik about six months before, it had become the major control center of the Freedom Fighter groups by default. Since the locus of many of the tunnels was Knothole, the commanders had their hands full attempting to organize so many people into such a small space AND direct them to the appropriate centers for cargo shipping. This was a tedious process, since they only had a few Hover Units, and a Hover Unit can only contain a limited amount of cargo. Knothole was crowded in many ways more than one. Many of the members from the other groups moved there not very long ago, either to escape from unfavorable climate, be closer to their intimates, or for various other reasons. Unfortunately, this began to create an overpopulation bottleneck in Knothole, considering that the habitable zone was previously designed to maintain the original residents plus 25% surplus. Knothole was now at 35%, making the situation disturbing, and nearly intolerable for Sally, since the majority of the burden was hers to cope with. 'As much as I like them,' Sally said to herself in her thoughts, 'one of these days those people are going to have to find a new home. This overcrowding is really putting a cramp in my administrative duties, for both Knothole and everywhere else. I never thought it would be so difficult to work with all these extra people! Who knows, maybe some of this weather will drive them off...I hope.' A rapping sound emanating from her door snapped her mind to reality and from the universe of her thoughts. She walked to the location of the sound and opened the door. Of course, she should have remembered. Only David and Tails would ever signal that low on a door relative to everyone else. "Why, Tails," Sally said as benignly as possible, trying to keep the stress from the past month plus now out of her mind. "Please, come in." The little red fox hesitated for a second, for he couldn't miss the general impression that she was somewhat perturbed. He then entered, after analyzing the situation in his mind. She wasn't angry at him; just irritated, probably for the reason that nearly everyone else was. That knowledge still didn't resolve any of his reluctance, however. He scanned over what he could see in her hut. The place was a disaster area, which was very uncharacteristic of her; except for when she was under high levels of tension that she was incapable of dispensing with. "Gee," Tails began, trying to resonate his voice in a joking manner and failing at the attempt, "are you sure it's safe for me to come in here?" He chuckled a bit, nervously, belatedly uncertain that his faux jovial attitude would present him with the desired result. His suspicions were correct, and for once wished that they were not. All Sally did was fix him with a cold, hard stare for about ten seconds. As much as he desired to erase that expression from his mind's eye, he couldn't. She captured his gaze, and wouldn't release it under his accord. As if realizing what had transpired, she immediately averted her harsh regard. "Oh, I'm sorry, honey," she finally responded, nearly in tears. "I didn't mean to look at you like that. It's just that...I've been under a lot of stress lately, and..." She disengaged her monologue, not knowing how to continue her apology to the little cub. Tails went over to her in a gesture of reassurance, and embraced her. "It's OK, Aunt Sally," he stated with sympathy. "Nearly everyone's been this way for the past few weeks, except David." It was her turn for a faltering guffaw. "David?" she asked, observantly and somewhat disconcerted by the reference. "The only time I've seen David irritated about something is that time he had a system-wide failure before he completely rebuilt himself. I don't know if ANYTHING else perturbs your brother or not." "Well, that been the only thing so far," he ventured, "he hasn't gotten mad about anything el-" Another interruption from the direction of the door. From the general location of the sound, it had to be David, but appended to the knock was a high level of insistence. She opened the door and saw David standing before the doorway, with a look of extreme distress on his face. Sonic stood beside him, the normally cavorting hedgehog looking equally distraught. Aspects that were uncharacteristic of the David and Sonic she knew. Something was horribly wrong. "Hiya, Sal. Hi, big guy," the hedgehog greeted nervously. "Greetings, Aunt Sally," David dictated politely, despite the despairing mask he wore. Seeing his vulpine familiar next to her, he continued, "And to you, Tails. May we be allowed to enter?" "Why...yes, certainly. Come right in, both of you," she answered, careful to keep the expectancy out of her voice. She knew now wasn't the time to make demands, and that her friends would eventually notify her of the unspoken calamity. David was a fox of truth, and the truth would reveal itself when he regained his composure so that he could speak as a composed observer of events. Sonic was usually more at ease with reporting potential or known problems, but the lack of response told her that he either preferred to allow David to explain the situation since David would present the information in its entirety, or that it was so severe he couldn't face it himself. Sally and Tails sat on her bed, watching the fox and hedgehog pair stand and reflect on Knothole's status. A few minutes later, the fox altered his look of despair to one of seriousness, and that was her cue that he was prepared to disclose the information he was so reluctant to make known to her before. "What happened out there, David?" she demanded kindly. "I have taken the liberty as a Knothole Freedom Fighter Commander to assist a fellow officer in assessing the supply manifests," he initiated, with the extreme dread literally dripping from his voice, "and Sonic and I have concluded that we do not have a sufficient supply of reserve food stock to survive the winter." This was a very devastating report for Sally, and she knew that if this knowledge was made public, it would inevitably promote a state of alarm for the rest of Knothole. Besides the permanent residents of Knothole, there were the other members of the Mobius Freedom Fighter groups to consider as well. And the influx of new residents gradually increased every month at the least, sometimes even by the week. Hearing David report the potential calamity only served to portray the situation in its entirety, with the proof as tenacious as granite. "Who else besides us knows about this?" she inquired, as if expecting a riot to erupt anytime now. "We are the only four in Knothole who have the knowledge of the food supply statistics," David reassured, but cast a vacant stare directed toward the floor as he continued. "However, maintaining the subject under covert guard will merely delay the inevitable; not prevent it. The others will more than likely learn of the truth, if not now, then in the near future. It will become necessary for us to inform the rest of Knothole about the reserve food shortage anyway, so in either case we would have a responsibility to prevent panic and rioting." The compuorganic vulpine missed nothing. 'It's days like these when I wish David WASN'T so perfect,' she thought. 'Maybe if just a few little white lies were programmed in there somewhere, letting us know that things were all right, even though they might not be.' Yet, deep down inside, she knew that for him to do so would be a sin against his programming and moral beliefs. "What about shipping the surplus from other bases? How long would that take?" Sally asked, in order to get a better idea of how severe the state could be. Sonic answered for her. "No way, Sal. It could take days, and we don't have that time." Tails finally spoke after he saw that the preliminaries of the situation had been established from the verbal exchange. "What can we do about this, David?" he asked his relative, the one ultimately in command of the circumstances. "How hard could it be to repair the replicator?" Addressing both Tails and Sally this time, David responded, "The reports I've received from Rotor and Bookshire are not in our favor. The supply of replacement hardware has nearly been depleted, and even if the replicator did become active again, we no longer have the base organic stock necessary for food replication. We do have the required chemicals to create the organic stock, but we also do not have the hardware to overhaul the replicator." A long pause as he compiled and resolved the thoughts in his mind. "No, the only alternatives I can consider at this point and time would be to find suitable areas on Mobius for our surplus population to inhabit, locate a food resource area that we might conceivably be able to transport raw stock from, or locate the required hardware for the replicator. Unless either of you have other suggestions, I propose sending a survey party to analyze the potential success of executing the plans I specified." He waited patiently for an answer from Sally and Tails, for he and Sonic had already examined the matter at length before approaching Sally. The young fox and the more senior ground squirrel regarded each other with anxiety, as if to say, "I don't. Do you?" No resolution of the implied question for other theories of dealing with the problem at hand was forthcoming. They then returned their attention to the black and gray fox, then to the blue hedgehog. Neither had to receive verbal interpretation of the silence indicated by Sally and Tails. After inspecting his internal chronometer for an attosecond, David decreed, "Very well, then. The investigatory detail will depart at 1000 hours tomorrow, seeing as-", he indicated the illumination level outside, which was gradually grading toward darkness as the sun extended its contact with the horizon, "-it would be inadvisable to do so now." "Who do you plan to take?" Sally inquired. "As of now, the proposed party consists of me and Dulcy. If anyone else wishes to-" An interruption from Sonic. Not verbal, but his reaction was more than explanatory enough to convey his opinions about having Dulcy in a mission when there was more than likely to be flying involved. He seized Tails by the sides of his chest, and darted with him out of Sally's hut, in an effort to spare himself and his comrade from another of Dulcy's flights. Sally could only stare at the unannounced and rushed departure, whereas David placed his right paw on his forehead, sighing. "I had predicted the probability of this occurrence," he said with reservation to a point off in space, "and it looks as if I was correct. Next time, I will pay more attention to my predictive subroutine." After finally regaining some of her composure, Sally voiced her shock at the situation. "I never saw Sonic take off like that before, especially not about Dulcy. Is something wrong, David?" He responded, "Nothing beyond the usual faulty landings that she executes. Apparently, Sonic isn't the only one that shares the fear of being part of a mission with Dulcy. This belief has already spread through the rest of Knothole," he finished, with obvious sympathy for the dragon. "How bad is it now?" she continued. "I believe at this phase every one has lost faith in Dulcy to properly correct her landings. Especially from the incident where she impacted with ten huts after falling victim to a wind shear pattern on her final approach. She and ten others were injured in that crash." His computers and organic memory cells accessed the appropriate memory in question, and images in his mind's eye formed of him valiantly defending Dulcy, noticing how no one else would subscribe to his explanations. Not even Dulcy. There were the unspoken incidents of similar, countless failures in nearly all the touchdowns that Dulcy made. Invariably, she would land in the same fashion: lose her balance, then fall forward, scraping her chin on the ground, not to mention jarring her passengers. The rest of the Freedom Fighters eventually lost faith in Dulcy's abilities, and publicly made that point clear. "Well," Sally stated after thinking over the dragon's public appearance, "the only thing that we can do now is try to build up her confidence, and that of everyone else's in her." "I concur," the fox agreed. "I just so happen to have an experimental technique to bolster her confidence and perfect her landing procedure." His female comrade looked at him, as if surprised that a solitary vulpine could perform such a feat. She had her doubts about David's success in providing the dragon with the initiative for flying and going out in public again. Noticing the nature behind the dissension, he said, "It will be successful, Sally. Trust me." She chuckled, remembering who was famous for submitting that particular phrase. "OK, David," she finally said, smiling. "I believe you." If Sonic had done so, she wouldn't have believed it. Knowing David's record for truthfulness restricted her standard reflexive "Oh, I hate it when you say that" retort. If her young colleague believed that the undertaking was to result in a favorable outcome, then it would be so. She playfully tugged on his cheek, knowing that he would teasingly despise her for it. She then kissed his olfactory sensor, with the knowledge that the reaction would be humorous as well. Her suspicions were no further from the truth. The juvenile fox directed his gaze toward the floor, rubbing the protesting sensitivity out of his nose. After the uprising had dissipated, he lowered his arms to his sides while compressing his paws into dangerous-looking fists, brought his face into full view of Sally's field of vision, and set his expression into one of mock contempt. She parroted the threat to him. Laughter exploded from the hut as they lovingly embraced each other. This was the most rewarding occurrence for Sally in the past three weeks, and she intended to savor every second of it. After David regained control of his emotional state, but still visibly feeling the residual effects of the last fifteen seconds, he spoke. "Now that we both understand each other, I believe I have business to attend to. Good night, Aunt Sally." "Good night, David. Good luck with Dulcy," she replied. "Remember: this fox ALWAYS keeps his word." And with that last statement, he exited from her hut, walking toward Dulcy's. A deafening guffaw from the background immediately after David was out of the field of view. Sally snickered for a few seconds, then began the task of organizing her disorganized domicile. The stress, at least for today, had been alleviated. Having dispensed with the effects of what transpired in the past minute, David recomposed himself into his more reserved manner. He tapped on Dulcy's door, then patiently bided his time for her response. He received his invitation five seconds later. "Go away," the dragon demanded, the irritated and morbid sound of her voice indicating her interest for solitude. "Dulcy," the vulpine called genially, "it's me, David." "DAVID?!" she exclaimed, apparently surprised that out of all the others in Knothole, her closest advocate would arrive to visit her. "Oh, nonononononono," she mumbled in belated regret for her previous remark. The fox's sensitive hearing heard the dragon's racing steps, the audio frequency increasing with the Doppler shift as she approached the door. The door burst open, expelling a small amount of air from inside. She immediately, but gently, picked him up, then dashed back into her hut with him cradled in her arms as if he were an infant. The door created a clattering report as it regained contact with the doorway. Looking down on David with astonishment and embarrassment, she whispered so that only she and he could hear, "It's nice to see you again, David. But you really shouldn't be here." "Why is that?" he queried, in a slightly more audible voice. His face contorted from one of amazement at Dulcy's response to one of a cynical nature. "I'm bad luck. Everyone knows that," Dulcy explained in a beleaguered tone. "No one wants to go out with me anymore. I've lost my interest in flying, since there's nobody to be with me." She lightly placed her ally on the floor and turned her head away from him, as if to spare him from a curse. "Dulcy," David commenced, now in mock disgrace, "you insult me. I don't subscribe to the 'popular' theories concerning you; therefore I have no place in the universally-inclusive 'everyone'." He paused to permit the implied significance of the delivery take effect. The response was unfavorable, for Dulcy didn't redirect her head toward him. He was prepared to entrust his life to her, and she didn't take heed of the unspoken message. In favor of something more candid, he ordered, "Dulcy, I want to see you at the bridge at 1000 hours tomorrow. We have an exploratory mission to perform for food supplies, hardware for the replicator, and for possible habitation sites for our excess population here at Knothole. I require you to be prepared for it before that time." It was the dragon's turn to be taken aback by the unexpected. "You REALLY mean it, David?" her face deformed with the extreme amazement. "YOU want to go on a mission with ME? I didn't know you cared about me so much," she warbled, whimpering with gaiety. She very gently picked her comrade up again, and hugged him, her hot tears plummeting to the fox's head. "Of course I care about you," he assured, returning the embrace to Dulcy. "I am a Freedom Fighter Commander, and your comrade. I would not have the status I maintain now if I didn't consider the personal side, the needs of my subordinates. I'm still the David you always knew, Dulcy. Even if I don't always have the opportunity now to be with everyone here in Knothole, I love them all as my friends, and even as family. And I am proud to have you as a sister in our extended family." "Oh, David," she said with a kind of gratified sadness, clutching him tighter against her torso. "This is so touching. You're growing up, just like your brother." She then presented him with a full-bodied dragon kiss that reeked of hydrogen sulfide. She then returned him to his original position on the floor. "I meant what I told you, Dulcy, and I want you to remember that I'm available to assist you with every means I am capable of. Now if you will excuse me," he said as his dermal sensors indicated a slightly higher degree of water on his skin, plus the imposed and unpleasant smell, "I believe I need to continue my shower. See you tomorrow at 1000 hours." "I'll be there," the now exuberant dragon replied. As David walked away from the double-huts of his two closest female companions, he pretended not to notice that Sally and Dulcy were covertly watching him. He then heard a joyous "Yeeha!" as continued his cadence. The unanticipated comeback from the pair made him halt, and body visibly cringed in exaggerated astoundment. Tittering from the background indicated their appreciation. The soaked fox executed an about-face, as if to defend himself from a stealthy adversary. His visible light grids detected nothing, but his IR sensors located Sally and Dulcy, "hiding" from him under their windows. The vulpine shook his head with a small degree of awe. 'Now I have the knowledge that part of my duty as a Freedom Fighter Commander is complete,' he thought. 'When I have reinsured that level of happiness in two of my friends despite the general trend of the day, I know that I have been able to commit myself to their necessities, and succeed.' He engaged his rotor/nacelles, and flew off toward his and his brother's home. * * * ________________________________________________________________ Shawn Wolski, N5UNA An Indoctrinated Sonic T. Hedgehog Story Author "But I guess some things are better left in the past." -Sally, quote from "The Temporal Syndrome" n5una@mail.utexas.edu and my under construction home page: http://wwwvms.utexas.edu/~n5una/index.html _______________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sun Apr 9 20:38:20 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id UAA06858 for sonic-ll; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 20:38:19 -0400 Received: from smtp.utexas.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id UAA06845 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 20:38:15 -0400 Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by smtp.utexas.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA27864 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 19:37:53 -0500 Received: from slip-21-3.ots.utexas.edu (slip-21-3.ots.utexas.edu [128.83.111.163]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA10406 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 19:35:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199504100035.TAA10406@mail.utexas.edu> X-Sender: n5una@mail.utexas.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 09 Apr 1995 19:33:46 -0500 To: sonic@sard.mv.net From: n5una@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU (Shawn Wolski) Subject: "Mirror Image": Part 1 (2/3) Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net After arriving at the hut that he and Tails shared, he knocked on the door to signal his brother. He heard Tails walk from the bed to the door with his noise ranging circuitry counting every otherwise imperceptible impact on the floor. The door slid easily past the entryway, and his vulpine familiar was standing before him, prepared to permit him passage. David spoke first. "Freedom Fighter Commander Delivery Service," he dictated, as if trained to do so. "If I'm not mistaken, I believe I have your order. And you are...Tails, am I right?" Tails chuckled at first, but then noticed something unusual about his relative. "Eeew, David. What happened?" he questioned, before he pinched his nose to hold back the stench. "A very enthusiastic dragon happened to me," the drenched black and gray fox replied. "If I may be permitted...?" he asked, indicating the bathroom. "Sured, goo rgiht ahaed," the other said, refusing to disengage the fingerlock from his nose before David was in a slightly more presentable condition. He kept a vigilant watch on his family member before the other disappeared into the bathroom for a shower. After the door closed, Tails let out a long hard breath, attempting to recover from the temporary constriction of his sinuses. He then walked over to the bunk bed, and took his position on the top bed. David came out from the shower five minutes later, smelling like he had used copious amounts of shampoo and deodorant to dispel the evil aroma. His fur was still slightly damp and frizzled from the static electricity, creating the image of a black and gray fuzzball. After reactivating his antistatic subdermal field, his fur returned to its original orientation flat on his skin. He then traveled to the bunk bed to join his comrade. "You mean Dulcy did that to you?" the red vulpine asked. Ascending to the top bed, the counterpart said, "Yes, Tails, she did." After reaching the bed, he crawled over to sit by his confidant. "Merely part of being a Freedom Fighter Commander. You receive the opportunity to know your people more..." he stuttered, his electronic thesaurus failing to find a word that would properly express the situation. He found none that filled the requirements, even taking the clock/instruction speed into account by every attosecond. "Intimately," he finally ventured. "Eeeew! All that kissing and stuff, it's gross, David! Yuck!" came the derisive reply from his kinfox. "It's not completely undesirable, Tails. Besides, from what I've seen between you, Nina, and Vixie, I would have considered you to be less reserved on such matters," the compuorganic jovially retorted. The only response he got from his brother was a significantly slackened lower jaw. Stolidly maintaining his grin, David continued, "I rest my case. And don't be concerned; it's our little secret." He saw the other's stress potentials decrease with each second. Calm enough to speak again, Tails submitted in interest, "How far did it go?" "Nothing beyond an delightful embrace and an excellent kissing session," David returned, knowing exactly what his relative-by-law was ultimately referring to. He sighed with resignation. "We are too junior in age and inexperienced to concern ourselves with expanding our horizons in that fashion." The electronic thesaurus didn't fail David this time in his search for the appropriate phrase. "Although," he continued more seriously, "that will not be the case for you in the near future. As for myself, I may never know." What David was referring to was the fact that Tails had just turned a year older in the late summer, effectively making him eleven years old. This would only be the beginning of the experiences that Tails would have, and probably would peak around his thirteenth year. Basically stated, it would be the time that he would publicly and privately become more interested in the opposite sex, and Tails was already on his uphill race toward that mountain peak. As for David, he was a recent construct, so it was far too soon to determine what his reactions would be. In his upgrade session that he made to prevent the threat of total deactivation, he added multiple computer controls to the organic counterparts, in order for him to maintain a higher level of control over the organic body functions. This included regulation of his hormonal levels, appended with controls on their "target cells". The end result: David had duplex negative feedback loops (organic/computer) to delimit his body functions in a homeostatic balance. The possibility of his organic system revolting was possible, even in his advanced control state; however, it was highly improbable. In the event that did occur, David's personality was "hard-encoded" in both his positronic and organic brain components, with a small percentage of provisional rewritable code which would be analyzed intensively before incorporation. He would still have strict control, and any hormonal imbalances were more likely to be deliberately induced, in "proaction" with a situation rather than "reaction". In other words, he would take control as much as possible; not be the subject of control by the situation. There were, of course, rare cases where David was more likely to "react", due to his focusing on another subject matter rather than everything at once. He was advanced; not perfect. What everyone else at Knothole regarded in David wasn't his technical aspects or vulnerabilities. They treated him more like a close friend; not a highly advanced machine. Their comrade had feelings too, whether they were generated from what "emotions" could be defined as, or from computer coding. It made no difference, because they existed regardless of their origin. One of the more prominent pieces of his personality was his mental maturity. Even though David was constructed as an eleven year-old fox, he behaved like someone far beyond the maturity of all the Knothole residents combined. He had been (and still was) accused of being more "adult" than the adults in Knothole, astonishing for someone of his age. He never looked on the attribute as a proof of superiority; to him, it was part of his mental programming that made him the unique fox he was. "Don't sell yourself short, David," the loving scion decreed. "You can still grow up, right? Is there more you can do?" The philosophical one conceded. "Yes, I can. Mentally, I still have the capability to develop, and I could be accused of being more adult than everyone else than before. As far as my endoskeleton is concerned, it's capable of minor controlled growth, and THAT is only for any necessary repairs to the metallic frame. Nothing more." He paused for a second, projecting at least one million times how his future would be compared to his relative. "From the probable outcome, Tails," he continued, "I will be your little brother for quite some time." "Well," the other reported kindly, "maybe in height, but you'll always be a big brother to me in heart." David was disconcerted by the return. "Thank you, Tails. I had no knowledge that you felt that way about me," visibly taken aback by the unexpected delivery. One of the rare times where he could only react. "Yes, I do, David," Tails said, imitating an earlier statement. "Merely part of being a Freedom Fighter Commander's brother." No laughter passed between them, but they did smile as they hugged each other reverently. David then dropped to the floor and took his position in his bed. The fox pair fell asleep in a matter of seconds, for all was right in the world for them now. Tomorrow was another day to be concerned with, but only tomorrow would it be met with tenacity. Now was a time for sleep; an intensive day was ahead. * * * Normally in order for David to sleep, a audio filter program lies active, disregarding undesired noise that would otherwise keep him awake at night. Some of those sounds included: wind passing through leaves, footsteps (those identified as "friendly"), snoring, and various other noises. One of the audio patterns that was permitted to bypass the filter was the knocking on the hut door. And the power of the bypassed audio was so powerful (though in actuality, it was a tapping), that could feel his entire body resonating with the sound. 'Signal from doorway,' his mind automatically registered after determining the range and direction. Investigating his internal chronometer, he thought, '0250 hours 36.798969695055 seconds?! This had better be important.' He slowly rose from his bed, and walked to the doorway. He opened the door, and found Dulcy standing before him. "Dulcy," he asked in a whisper, "what purpose have you arrived here to serve?" He was somewhat irritated from the inauspicious time for waking up, but (thankfully) his verbal frequency circuits smoothed out the harsh tones that were not so well-intended. Unfortunately, the same was not true for his facial expression. "Oh, I'm sorry to wake you up so early, David," the dragon replied apologetically. "Maybe I should come back at a better time." She began rotating her body to permit her departure. "No, wait," David ordered, warmly this time. "I'm already awake, so you may speak to me if you so intend. Just maintain a low whisper. Tails isn't as amiable as I am from being woken up at this time of day," he said, indicating the slumbering Tails. "OK," the dragon reassured. After entering, she said, "I'm really glad that you decided to take me on a mission, David. Things are really getting a little cramped around here, with the feeling that nearly everyone is breathing down my neck." "I understand," the vulpine concurred. "It's gratifying to see that you are still willing to undertake such a task, considering the stress you have been experiencing." "Yeah, well," she responded, "you really woke me up, David. Told me that I still have a chance to do something right for a change, and that someone still believes in me." "Sometimes, Dulcy," the fox said philosophically, "that's part of what we need. But believing in yourself is the most important aspect. Otherwise, all the care and attention in the world won't make a difference; it has to originate from YOU. Do you truthfully feel confident enough in yourself to take that first step?" he said while pointing to her for emphasis. "Yes, I do," she said solemnly. "I WILL do my best today." "In that event," he began, "I suggest that you go to sleep. Otherwise, your best will not be enough to assist you in attaining the goals you seek for the future." He notated the time on the wall video display. She yawned in agreement. "Oops, excuse me. I am kinda pooped. Thanks a lot, David," the dragon said, and offered her paw. He returned the gesture, and she shook his paw with a strong, determined grip. That was all the persuasion that David required to know that Dulcy was ready to face one of her worst problems. His presence strengthened the promise she made to herself, for she knew that she and David would succeed where others had failed. She then lumbered out the doorway, on route to her hut. "Good night, Dulcy," her respected comrade called softly to her as he followed, stopping at the porch. "And don't allow anyone to defile your determination. We will show all of Knothole that you can land with the best of the dragons, or in this instructive case, foxes." She chuckled, then continued on her way home. * * * The next morning, David woke up at 0800 hours to begin his preparation for the planetary search for food, raw material, and habitation areas. After running the strongly recommended full-spectrum diagnostic on his major and minor compuorganic components, he slowly rose from bed and walked to the AVDO (Audio/Video/Digital/Other) wall unit. His stealthy subroutines automatically engaged, for his brother was still peacefully sleeping the early morning away. He investigated the final official reports from the fracas that occurred yesterday and many of the previous days before, and had his mood set for the day. The report told him that, basically, the situation was worse than he and Sonic anticipated. Data from the Northern Freedom Fighter group predicted that the early winter cold front was advancing faster than the original calculations suggested, and that the major ground-level supply routes to/from that area would be impassable in the next seven days. The tunnels would still be operative, yet they had a cantankerous habit of delaying shipments due to cave-ins and other minor geologic processes seeking a more stable state. As for Knothole, the front would arrive in the next eleven days, effectively arresting all cargo and other transport to/from the area. On another note, there were increasing levels of unrest gradually increasing in Knothole. This was partially due to the overcrowding, and to rumors floating around that the food supply was possibly not of sufficient amount to feed the entire resident population in the duration of the long winter. Apparently, the rumor itself was somewhat pervasive, given the fact that Knothole was literally flooded with people, and a minuscule (but significant) percentage of them were prone to gossip broadcasting. Not very conductive to an already precarious situation. Videos of potential rioting in his mind's eye came forth, a prediction of the near future if the situation was allowed to conglomerate more and more. If David could curse, the appropriate time would be now. He held the temptation at bay, not even acknowledging it in the privacy of his thoughts. He would not progress all this way to become notorious for profanity, even if only to himself. He combated the undesired emotional response, having the benefit of a secondary negative feedback system to minimize the properties of it and transport it to a null data core. Yet the residual effects of it still lingered... The compuorganic vulpine then downloaded other, more immediately important, data into his dynamic provisional memory: analysis of readiness for the mission that he and Dulcy would embark on in the next two hours. He began searching through the equipment closet for the required supplies for the trip, while downloading data via a remote low-level RF connection to the library computer in Rotor's workshop. After David was satisfied with the level of data that he felt would be pertinent to the mission, he quietly exited the hut and walked toward the workshop that Rotor and Bookshire shared in their mutual inventive moods. He had all but one very significant piece of information, and that didn't serve to improve the compuorganic fox's attitude. 'Rotor and Bookshire must be getting progressively more lax in their database revisions,' he thought as he slowly paced his trail to the intended target. 'However, I did have the opportunity to inquire him about the required hardware for the replicator. Yet, I did not. Possibility: am I becoming more and more prone to the effects of the past month?' The answer was, unfortunately, yes. After arriving at the workshop, his sensors penetrated the metallic mass that comprised the bulk composition of the hut. A lone walrus was present, about five meters from David's location. David announced his presence by knocking on the main door. The walrus came to the doorway and displaced the metal sheet that barricaded the exterior environment from entry. "Well, David," he said to his comrade, in awe of the situation, "what a pleasant surprise. Come right in." "Thank you, Rotor," the vulpine replied after he entered the make-shift technological center. He then continued in a less formal and more jovial tone, "It's pleasurable to have the knowledge that I am still capable of coming here." Rotor was a testimony to stress potentials and IR radiation. "Oh, David," the blue walrus responded, not completely in the mindset to be cavorting. "I want you to know that you're always welcome here. We've missed you in the past month." His dynamic interpreters were not required to give David what information he needed about Rotor's tone waveform. Deciding to bypass the more social preliminaries, he opted for a more severe vocal resonance, implying the true nature of his presence. "Excellent. Rotor, I require your assistance on obtaining data for the-" Interruption from the walrus, who audibly slapped his right paw on his face. "Oh, man! I forgot to tell you yesterday during the food supply run!" Insured that he and his associate were thinking of an identical subject, he resumed, "We are both at fault. I had an equal opportunity to discuss the replicator replacement part requirements." Admission of fallibility in this particular case he felt was the most sensible action to take. Not intending to dwell on the subject, he persisted in his diatribe, "Now that I have the time to do so, what hardware is needed?" Rotor then began naming the hardware components, while David annotated them in his database for future retrieval. * * * Dulcy and David met each other at the bridge at about 0955 hours. David began explaining the nature of the mission to Dulcy while assisting her in putting on her ruck sack, but was interrupted by the sound of Tails' voice bellowing at them. "David! Dulcy! Wait for me!" as he traversed the distance between Knothole Center and the bridge by flight. He reached his destination four seconds later, panting from the strain. "Hi, Tails," greeted the dragon to the breath-depleted fox. Tails could only wave back in acknowledgment. David, however, was not so amicable to his relative's arrival. He stated in a perplexed tone, "Tails, it's pleasing to see you here, but it's not necessary." "I want to go too, David. I don't care what Sonic and everyone else thinks," the red vulpine explained after his lungs regained the required amount of air to facilitate normal breathing and speech. "Very well-meaning of you, Tails, however..." He broke off his explanation, turning his head toward their female companion. "Dulcy," he asked, "will you please excuse us for a few minutes?" "Sure," answered the dragon, baffled by David's treatment of the situation. She watched her two comrades walk off to a secluded area in the Great Forest. "David, what's up?" Tails asked when he saw that David was satisfied with the general security of the location. A deep breath from his brother; not a favorable indication of what he would say. "Tails," he began, "I know that you have been waiting to go with Dulcy for some time, especially since you were the first-party observer to what Sonic thought of the idea. However, I would not recommend it." "Why can't I go?" queried the other, saddened and irritated at the suggestion. "I have a mission to perform," David continued, "but more than that, I have a promise to keep to Dulcy. She agreed to go on this mission with me as a surveyor, while I am responsible for assisting her in landing properly. Having someone else present might only serve to aggravate an already precarious atmosphere for her." "Oh," Tails returned in realization, "I see. Is there anything I can do to help?" "I need someone to monitor the transponder beacon signal. If anything unexpected occurs, it's necessary for someone to know IMMEDIATELY. And I nominate you for that position." The black and gray vulpine waited as his counterpart considered the significance of the statement. "OK, David, I'll make sure that you and Dulcy don't cause any trouble," Tails finally retorted jovially. "Moi?" David retorted back in mock innocence. "Cause trouble? What evidence do you have of that proposed history?" Tails could only chuckle as he flew off toward their hut. David regarded his brother with a reverent awe, having the knowledge that his brother would always try to do the most sensible thing. With the most immediate impedance resolved, he exited from the personal conference area, on a course back toward Dulcy. After he returned to his original position beside Dulcy, his friend asked, "What was all that about, David?" "I regret that I am unable to explain," he initiated with a grin on his face, "but what transpired falls under the premise of Security Access Level 4 Alpha. Access nullified, Dulcy." Missing the mark on the intended target, she said, "But I have Level 4 clearance. What's the big deal?" "Yes," he conceded, "you do have Level 4 access, but NOT the Alpha Amendment." "Well..." the confounded dragon questioned, "who can get the Alpha Amendment?" "Immediate family relatives of the Freedom Fighter Commander in question," he rejoined, saying nothing further, indicating the implied privacy he and Tails wished to maintain. Dulcy would not obtain any further information concerning the confidential interaction between the two foxes. Any further questioning directed toward or around the subject would be downloaded to one of David's null data cores. In his own way, David would effectively ignore interrogation. Nothing was more headstrong than an organic/computer system that had been programmed (either by the manufacturers, or by itself in David's case) to answer or not answer an input statement. She took the implication, and surrendered to it with reluctance. She then ventured the question relative to their mission, "So, where to? My wings are itching to fly after being stuck here with nowhere to go." No Alpha Amendment, nor a Level 4 restriction on that question. "To the equator," the two-tailed vulpine returned. "The equator?!" the adolescent dragon nearly screeched. "David, do you have any idea how far it is from here to there? And the heat, we're gonna melt!" "No need to concern yourself, Dulcy," he reassured his distressed comrade. "The purpose of our presence at the equator is to enhance my ability to obtain data more uniformly across the planet. The process itself will take less than a minute to perform. I will personally be responsible for the flights. They will consist of low-impulse propulsion velocities and warp engagements." He picked up her ruck sack from the ground, threw it over her back, and expertly secured it to her torso. "What YOU are required to execute are the LANDINGS. They will be under real-time conditions, relative to your organic timebase. And they will be conducted at all of the suitable sites that I locate. I project that you may receive a high degree of instruction today, so I believe the proper phrase is, 'keep your wits about you'. Any questions?" No return from Dulcy as she pondered over the mission plans. She scratched the underside of her muzzle, thinking about the possible important items that would make a difference between the success and failure of the undertaking at hand. She found nothing lacking in them, since everything had been emphasized over the course of the past day and now. As always, David had explained everything she needed to know. "Very well, then," he resumed, noticing that Dulcy had nothing further to add. "Our first flight will be a warp engagement to the equator for the long-range sensor scans, and we will remain in warp space until the download is complete. We will then investigate the favorable areas at a significantly closer range after the data has completed compilation." His eyes changed to a dark blue as a sensor probe emitted from them, looking up and down the dragon. "What's that?" she asked, remotely concerned about the unpleasant memories of SWATBot targeting sensors resurfacing in her mind. "A mass/volume determinator," he replied, resolving the computer image of the required graviton warp field geometry in his warp control computers. Seeing the puzzled look on her face, his dynamic interpreter suggested a response to the implied question. He informed, "I'll speak to you in detail about the theories behind graviton warp physics and everything else involved with my system operations at a later and more auspicious time. Right now, we have other labors to complete." He rotated his rotor/nacelles, and levitated to a midair position three meters from the ground. "Dulcy," he instructed his associate, "follow me." The dragon complied with the order, slowly rising from ground level to a position approximately a meter from David. She moved around a few times, attempting to locate herself at the required point in space where the warp field could easily envelop her without being critically distorted by an aphasic lobe. After she found it, David signaled to her to remain as stable as possible while he removed the protective shield partitions from his sensitive graviton field discharge sections on his tails. He gradually increased the warp field strength, phasing them out of the known physical universe. "David," Dulcy inquired, "how many times have you done this?" She was concerned that they would both be trapped in warp space for eternity, if the procedure did not succeed. The response from her comrade didn't exactly heighten her confidence. "Aside from the simulations in the restructure of the dynamic graviton warp drive field," David began, "this is my first attempt." What made the situation more ill-omened was that, despite all of David's simulation experience, he didn't seem very confident in the favorable outcome of the experiment either. One-billionth of a degree of critical distortion outside of the field's reshaping abilities, or a slightly miscalculated use of power, would be fatal to both of them. All the more incentive for David to investigate any and all factors of concern in the new potential travel method. 'Oh, boy,' Dulcy thought with resignation. A new fear of traveling via FTL threatened to engulf her spirit and her belief in her comrade's abilities. She regarded the brightening blue light emission from David's still-rotating tails. A sudden stop to the rotor/nacelles' rotation, then a bright blue flash encompassed her field of vision as the acceleration into warp space commenced. Her eyes instinctively closed at the deafening influx of visible light. No time remained for retrospective analysis for either partner in this real-time experiment; only the hope that the procedure would operate well was on their minds. Back in their physical real-time universe, the only indication of their departure was an intense blue flash that spanned many kilometers through the Great Forest, and a 35 dB wind shear noise from the stressed air impacting David's navigational deflector, dampened only by the precision-geometry differential graviton fields. They no longer existed in that point of space on Mobius. * * * ________________________________________________________________ Shawn Wolski, N5UNA An Indoctrinated Sonic T. Hedgehog Story Author "But I guess some things are better left in the past." -Sally, quote from "The Temporal Syndrome" n5una@mail.utexas.edu and my under construction home page: http://wwwvms.utexas.edu/~n5una/index.html _______________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 10 00:28:21 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA07893 for sonic-ll; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 00:28:13 -0400 Received: from saul3.u.washington.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA07888 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 00:28:11 -0400 Received: by saul3.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00365; Sun, 9 Apr 95 21:28:53 -0700 X-Sender: lazuli@saul3.u.washington.edu Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 21:28:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Sloniker To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: RE: jpegs In-Reply-To: <199504100037.TAA06535@sun-10.cae.wisc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Sun, 9 Apr 1995, James Firmiss wrote: > Eep. For a while I thought this mailing list was dying but it seems to > have picked up again. Just needed a little nudge. (:3 BTW, what kind of volume are those of you getting a.f.s-h seeing? I get less than one message daily... > I was at the mall and again saw plush Sonics and Tails. I'm rather > disappointed at how Plush Tails turned out and so far haven't gotten > one. (nods) Yeah, he's not all that cute in plush form. I dunno if I would have bought him with my own money, but he was a gift, so I like him. (:3 > Screen Shots I'd Like To See: > I think the final scene where Sonic (and/or Tails and/or Knuckes) > jumping toward the screen [from all Sonic games that I know of] might > make a good JPEGs. If I had the equipment to do that kind of stuff I'd > probably make JPEGs of those scenes myself :) (nods) IMHO, though, the artwork on these 'zoom shots' isn't as good as the usual character animation or the artwork in the instruction books. I wonder why that is? Sonic looks especially bad in his Super/Hyper form at the end of S&K... ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer lazuli@u.washington.edu Ohhh... I'm dead and hungry, and that is not a very good combination. gaw. From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 10 00:32:19 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA07926 for sonic-ll; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 00:32:17 -0400 Received: from saul3.u.washington.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA07918 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 00:32:14 -0400 Received: by saul3.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01212; Sun, 9 Apr 95 21:32:57 -0700 X-Sender: lazuli@saul3.u.washington.edu Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 21:32:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Sloniker To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: several messages In-Reply-To: <199504091206.IAA19092@use.usit.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, it was written: > I wasn't aware of any Sonic-related Happy Meal toys. Please send or post > details for inclusion in the Sonic Merchandise List. Okay, lemme see if I can remember them all... The one I got was the Tails Flying Fox Launcher. A blue semi-cylindrical base with a ripcord attached launches an orange bit of plastic with stickers of Tails' snuggable body on both sides into the air, courtesy of the helicopter-like 'tails' attachment. It's a little tricky for us southpaws to work, but goes surprisingly high. They also had, if I remember correctly, a Sonic scooter thing, with a launcher to send it flying across the floor; a Knuckles whirling top toy, with him holding out his fists like he's imitating the Tazmanian Devil; and a Robotnik 'Just Won't Stop' vehicle, which reversed course when it bumped into walls and stuff (I don't know how it was powered; possibly a flywheel.) ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer lazuli@u.washington.edu Nostalgia isn't what it used to be. Why, in my day... From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 10 00:34:10 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA07960 for sonic-ll; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 00:34:09 -0400 Received: from saul3.u.washington.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA07955 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 00:34:07 -0400 Received: by saul3.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28953; Sun, 9 Apr 95 21:34:50 -0700 X-Sender: lazuli@saul3.u.washington.edu Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 21:34:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Sloniker To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic Graphics from UK In-Reply-To: <199504091417.JAA23955@mail.utexas.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Sun, 9 Apr 1995, Shawn Wolski wrote: > (This is in response to a post that I saw a day ago on Sonic Net. > Unfortunately, I have misplaced the mail message, and it's either buried > under all the new mail I have or otherwise lost. But if you read this > message, you'll know who it's for.) That would be me. (:3 > The Sonic graphics (the screen shots where he's shown running, jumping, > etc.) were located at this address: > http://www.cm.cf.ac.uk:80/Games/console/sega. Thanks. I'll look into it. Any idea who uploaded those binrips? ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer lazuli@u.washington.edu DISCLAIMER: My ideas are mine, and you can't have them. From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 10 01:43:40 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id BAA08048 for sonic-ll; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 01:43:37 -0400 Received: from smtp.utexas.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id BAA08043 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 01:43:35 -0400 Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by smtp.utexas.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA08443 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 00:43:24 -0500 Received: from slip-11-10.ots.utexas.edu (slip-11-10.ots.utexas.edu [128.83.128.106]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA09689 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 00:42:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199504100542.AAA09689@mail.utexas.edu> X-Sender: n5una@mail.utexas.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 00:41:18 -0500 To: sonic@sard.mv.net From: n5una@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU (Shawn Wolski) Subject: UK Sonic Address and Pictures Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >> The Sonic graphics (the screen shots where he's shown running, jumping, >> etc.) were located at this address: >> http://www.cm.cf.ac.uk:80/Games/console/sega. > >Thanks. I'll look into it. Any idea who uploaded those binrips? To tell you the truth, I don't have a clue who was ultimately responsible for getting the graphics to that address. I was wondering where our pic of the Happy Fun Fox was from. There or here? Hard to say, since there's no picture credit. I tried to access the address at about the same time Ratman did. Holy chew slow. I've seen 8088s go faster than what I was downloading at. Could be my location, since the UT server here is sometimes deccelerated sometimes itself. Or it's something else entirely. ________________________________________________________________ Shawn Wolski, N5UNA An Indoctrinated Sonic T. Hedgehog Story Author "But I guess some things are better left in the past." -Sally, quote from "The Temporal Syndrome" n5una@mail.utexas.edu and my under construction home page: http://wwwvms.utexas.edu/~n5una/index.html _______________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 10 04:07:46 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id EAA08262 for sonic-ll; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 04:07:44 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id EAA08257 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 04:07:42 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) id EAA21664; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 04:02:34 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 04:02:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2" To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: RE: jpegs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Sun, 9 Apr 1995, Fred Sloniker wrote: > On Sun, 9 Apr 1995, James Firmiss wrote: > > > Eep. For a while I thought this mailing list was dying but it seems to > > have picked up again. > > Just needed a little nudge. (:3 BTW, what kind of volume are those of > you getting a.f.s-h seeing? I get less than one message daily...> There will be busy periods, and there will be slow periods. And there were several stories posted at the time the slowdown began, so maybe quite a few were taking time out to read them. The list will be here as long as we all want it to be. As for the newsgroup, I normally see about 5-10 posts over a week's time. |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| | A! JW2 WAR++ PI~ BR+i SL++++i SK+++ RI++^ RU+ GDF BU+ MI- MM KK-- | | P++ D $++ E59 Ee5 Eee35 TRita Ay68 M | | "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog | |-- A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! ------------------------------| From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 10 12:45:43 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA09583 for sonic-ll; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 12:45:07 -0400 Received: from sonic.segaoa.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA09572 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 12:44:59 -0400 Received: from blackhole.segaoa.com by sonic.segaoa.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA22077; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 09:46:15 +0800 Received: by blackhole.segaoa.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F896099@blackhole.segaoa.com>; Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:45:13 PDT From: "Wallis, Mike" To: Sonic mailing list Subject: JPEGs of Sonic & Knuckles Date: Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:30:00 PDT Message-Id: <2F896099@blackhole.segaoa.com> Encoding: 12 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 content-length: 346 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Last night I posted JPEGs of both Sonic & Knuckles to alt.binaries.pictures.cartoons. I uploaded those picts to Ratman's Sonic FTP site (sorry, can't remember the address off hand). In addition, I also uploaded two --ahem-- risque Sonic pictures done by Doug Winger. One of Bunny and another of Bunny & Sonic. Hope you like 'em. -Mike From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 10 13:10:33 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id NAA09732 for sonic-ll; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:10:32 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id NAA09726; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:10:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:10:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: JPEGs of Sonic & Knuckles In-Reply-To: <2F896099@blackhole.segaoa.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Mon, 10 Apr 1995, Wallis, Mike wrote: > Last night I posted JPEGs of both Sonic & Knuckles to > alt.binaries.pictures.cartoons. > > I uploaded those picts to Ratman's Sonic FTP site (sorry, can't remember the > address off hand). In addition, I also uploaded two --ahem-- risque Sonic > pictures done by Doug Winger. One of Bunny and another of Bunny & Sonic. > > Hope you like 'em. I have put them in the sonic/images dir. it's: ftp.mv.com /pub/users/rat/sonic/images/ and the perverted ones are in /pub/users/rat/sonic/images/perv/ and they are pretty sick. I don't know why people like that smut. Oh well. If that's what people want. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work: paul@mv.mv.com | Play: rat@rat.mv.com WWW : http://www.mv.com/users/rat | FTP : ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat AOL : PaulHurley | CIS : 75014,77 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 10 13:11:30 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id NAA09751 for sonic-ll; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:11:29 -0400 Received: from mailhost.primenet.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id NAA09746 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:11:27 -0400 Received: from usr4.primenet.com (usr4.primenet.com [198.68.32.14]) by mailhost.primenet.com (8.6.11/wjp-h2.0) with ESMTP id KAA24999 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:12:18 -0700 Received: (rotor@localhost) by usr4.primenet.com (8.6.11/wjp-c2.0) id KAA28720; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:12:16 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:12:13 -0700 (MST) From: Dave Pistone To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: JPEGs of Sonic & Knuckles In-Reply-To: <2F896099@blackhole.segaoa.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Mon, 10 Apr 1995, Wallis, Mike wrote: > > Last night I posted JPEGs of both Sonic & Knuckles to > alt.binaries.pictures.cartoons. > > I uploaded those picts to Ratman's Sonic FTP site (sorry, can't remember the > address off hand). In addition, I also uploaded two --ahem-- risque Sonic > pictures done by Doug Winger. One of Bunny and another of Bunny & Sonic. > Ah yes, B_rabbot.gif and contract.gif right? I wouldn't call them risque. Actually I can think of some other words to use. They are also available at my Web page for everyone's info, as well as a few others. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "What do you get when you cross a lawyer with a godfather?" "You get an offer you can't understand." --David Pistone's distinguished collection of dumb lawyer jokes David M. Pistone -- rotor@primenet.com __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ ftp.primenet.com/users/r/rotor /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / http://www.primenet.com/~rotor / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ / ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 10 14:32:08 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA10279 for sonic-ll; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:32:02 -0400 Received: from unix.infoserve.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA10274 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:31:57 -0400 Received: from localhost (bradc@localhost) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA13747; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:35:58 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:35:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Clark Subject: new screen grabs To: sonic@sard.mv.net Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Just sent two screen grabs of Sonic and Knuckles game to the FTP site. The first is of the opening screen with Sonic and Knuckles, just before the lettering appears, and the other is of the 'no-way' screen that shows Tails, Sonic, Robotnick, and Knuckles. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brad D Clark Orwin Raccoon (IRC/Furtoonia) main--> bradc@unix.infoserve.net alts-->brad.clark@haven.ship.net Fido 1:153/969 bradclark@blaze.helix.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 10 18:48:05 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id SAA11551 for sonic-ll; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:47:39 -0400 Received: from huey.csun.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id SAA11546 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 18:47:34 -0400 Received: from localhost (vboao0f2@localhost) by huey.csun.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id PAA00115; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:43:58 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:43:13 +0800 (PST) From: Sonic the Hedgehog Subject: Has anyone seen my pictures? To: SonicMail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >From Sonic The Hedgehog, Has anyone seen my pictures on Ratman's ftp site yet? Or has my message gotten lost amongst the thread of messages? Sonic The Hedgehog From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 10 20:15:33 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id UAA11826 for sonic-ll; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 20:15:19 -0400 Received: from smtp.utexas.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id UAA11821 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 20:15:17 -0400 Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by smtp.utexas.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA02300 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 19:13:56 -0500 Received: from slip-14-1.ots.utexas.edu (slip-14-1.ots.utexas.edu [128.83.128.161]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA12951 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 19:12:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199504110012.TAA12951@mail.utexas.edu> X-Sender: n5una@mail.utexas.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 19:11:00 -0500 To: sonic@sard.mv.net From: n5una@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU (Shawn Wolski) Subject: Re: Has anyone seen my pictures? Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >From Sonic The Hedgehog, > >Has anyone seen my pictures on Ratman's ftp site yet? Or has my message >gotten lost amongst the thread of messages? > > Sonic The Hedgehog Uh, yeah, I am. I'm downloading them right now from his FTP site, and looking them over. ________________________________________________________________ Shawn Wolski, N5UNA An Indoctrinated Sonic T. Hedgehog Story Author, and Official Sonic FAQ File HTML Correspondent. "Aside from the simulations in the restructure of the dynamic graviton warp drive field, this is my first attempt." -David, in response to Dulcy as to the feasibility of his use of warp drive to transport more than himself in FTL space: "Mirror Image" n5una@mail.utexas.edu and visit my gradually expanding home page: http://wwwvms.utexas.edu/~n5una/index.html _______________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 11 00:16:03 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA12587 for sonic-ll; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 00:15:55 -0400 Received: from anvil.gatech.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA12582 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 00:15:53 -0400 Received: from acmey.gatech.edu (acmey.gatech.edu [130.207.165.23]) by anvil.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA23177 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 00:16:44 -0400 From: gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu (Robin Hood) Received: (gt6005a@localhost) by acmey.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA16499 for sonic@sard.mv.net; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 00:16:43 -0400 Message-Id: <199504110416.AAA16499@acmey.gatech.edu> Subject: Re: several messages To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 00:16:42 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "Fred Sloniker" at Apr 9, 95 09:32:55 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1971 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net > Okay, lemme see if I can remember them all... > > The one I got was the Tails Flying Fox Launcher. A blue semi-cylindrical > base with a ripcord attached launches an orange bit of plastic with > stickers of Tails' snuggable body on both sides into the air, courtesy of > the helicopter-like 'tails' attachment. It's a little tricky for us > southpaws to work, but goes surprisingly high. > > They also had, if I remember correctly, a Sonic scooter thing, with a > launcher to send it flying across the floor; a Knuckles whirling top toy, > with him holding out his fists like he's imitating the Tazmanian Devil; > and a Robotnik 'Just Won't Stop' vehicle, which reversed course when it > bumped into walls and stuff (I don't know how it was powered; possibly a > flywheel.) > Being guilty of working at a McDonald's, I can tell you how the toy promotions work. I haven't seen these toys myself, but all of our promotions work in multiples of 4, so you've either listed all the toys, or there's 4 missing :). Also, there was one more Sonic McDonald's toy. Remember the McDonald's Birthday (or something like that) promotion they had last year. 16 toys, each from a different past promotion, together forming a train? Sonic was on one of those toys as well. later---Kris -- *******Robin Hood (Kris Kelley) gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu***************** * fnord-42-froinlaven-cowabunga-the truth is out there-get out-spin dash * * are you pondering what I'm pondering?-welcome to the next level-yars!! * * finish him!-i hope i've shown you how to treat a lady-i'm a character! * ************************************************************************** * "Don't care what people say / Just follow your own way." - Enigma * * "I'm not sure that the world would be ready for 2 of me!" - P. O'Toole * * "Life: Am I taking this too personally?" - me * ************************************************************************** From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 11 02:49:41 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id CAA13488 for sonic-ll; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 02:49:34 -0400 Received: from saul5.u.washington.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id CAA13483 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 02:49:31 -0400 Received: by saul5.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24461; Mon, 10 Apr 95 23:50:28 -0700 X-Sender: lazuli@saul5.u.washington.edu Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 23:50:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Sloniker To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: UK Sonic Address and Pictures In-Reply-To: <199504100542.AAA09689@mail.utexas.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Mon, 10 Apr 1995, Shawn Wolski wrote: > To tell you the truth, I don't have a clue who was ultimately > responsible for getting the graphics to that address. I'm tracking the culprit down. (:3 > I tried to access the address at about the same time Ratman did. Holy > chew slow. I've seen 8088s go faster than what I was downloading at. I didn't have any trouble when I lynx'ed it. Maybe it's a time-of-day issue. ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer lazuli@u.washington.edu Trials of a furry lover #47: explaining the scars down your back at work. From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 11 03:11:13 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id DAA13843 for sonic-ll; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 03:11:08 -0400 Received: from saul5.u.washington.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id DAA13838 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 03:11:05 -0400 Received: by saul5.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25949; Tue, 11 Apr 95 00:12:03 -0700 X-Sender: lazuli@saul5.u.washington.edu Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 00:12:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Sloniker To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: Has anyone seen my pictures? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Mon, 10 Apr 1995, Sonic the Hedgehog wrote: > Has anyone seen my pictures on Ratman's ftp site yet? Or has my message > gotten lost amongst the thread of messages? I saw 'em. They were pretty decent; better than I could do, certainly. I give 'em a B. (:3 ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer lazuli@u.washington.edu "Klingons do *not* write stupid taglines!" --Lt. Worf, sorta From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 11 03:49:13 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id DAA13925 for sonic-ll; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 03:49:05 -0400 Received: from spot.Colorado.EDU by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id DAA13920 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 03:49:02 -0400 Received: from Freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU (freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU [140.226.1.8]) by spot.Colorado.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) with ESMTP id BAA12089 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 01:49:49 -0600 Received: (from av643@localhost) by Freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU (8.6.8/8.6.6) id BAA12373; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 01:49:48 -0600 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 01:49:48 -0600 Message-Id: <199504110749.BAA12373@Freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU> From: av643@Freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU (Dan Ramos) To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: several messages Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net okokok...I can see nobody else has these McDonald's toys (of which I have SEVERAL of each). :) The first promotional was FOUR toys. SONIC: The Sonic toy had Sonic on a fireball and you could launch him off from it. TAILS: The Tails toy was a simple handheld launcher with a flat picture of tails on a rotary (though four-tailed) tail shaped helicopter deal. :) KNUCKLES: The Knuckles toy was a whirlwind toy you pushed/pulled along a tabletop and watched Knuckles spin as you moved it. roBUTTnik: The BUTTnik toy looked exactly like the weekday syndicated version of ol' BUTTnik on his hover thingy. When it moved, it would bump along walls and move all over the place bumping into walls. The SECOND promotional was ONE of twelve different toys McD's had, but there was only ONE of those twelve related to Sonic. The toy looks exactly like a purple/pinkish television with a dark purple back end to it. On top of the television is a black NEW Sega Genesis console with a 3-button controller. As you moved the television (which has wheels like a train underneath and train hitches to attach to the other 12 toys in this series on both ends of the TV), the picture in the TV shoed a pic of Sonic running (with a birthday hat on), then shows Tails (also with a B-day hat on), then shows an angry weekday afternoon syndicated show version on BUTTnik rchasin' after 'em. :) Anywayz, guys. Hopes this helps. I got so many Sonic thingies in here I don't even remember what to TELL you guys I have. :) From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Wed Apr 12 02:12:59 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id CAA18405 for sonic-ll; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 02:12:41 -0400 Received: from serv0.cae.wisc.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id CAA18400 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 02:12:38 -0400 Received: from sun-32.cae.wisc.edu (sun-32.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.69.182]) by serv0.cae.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with ESMTP id BAA23032 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 01:13:41 -0500 From: James Firmiss Received: (firmiss@localhost) by sun-32.cae.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.9) id BAA05168 for sonic@sard.mv.net; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 01:13:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199504120613.BAA05168@sun-32.cae.wisc.edu> Subject: Sonic MiniSeries Part III Summary To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Wed, 12 Apr 95 1:13:45 CDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net I mentioned not long ago that I got the finale to the Princess Sally miniseries. I finally brought it with me so now I can type up a summary. ------ Credits credits! Love them credits! Cover: Art Mawhinney and D'Agostino ( Cover colors by 'Heroic Age Colors' ) Script: Mike Kanterovich & Ken Penders Pencils: Art Mawhinney Inks: Rich Koslowski Letters: Mindy Eisman Colors: Barry Grossman Editor: Scott Fulop Managing Director: Victor Gorelick Editor-in-Cheif: Richard Goldwater (as always) ( Same credits as in part II... not sure about part I though ) Spoilers ahead... [warning warning warning warning warning warning warning warning warning] Quick Recap of Parts O, I and II ( I call the prelude.. found in a Sonic issue part 0 ) ( Part 0 ) While on a mission to destroy an energy substation alone, Sally runs into 'Former Secret Agent Geoffery St. John' [skunk]'. ( Part I ) St. John joins Sally and her group of 'freedom fighter trainees'. ( Hamlin [pig], Penelope [platypus], Arlo [armadillo], Dylan [porcupine?] ) The plan: Knock out two more energy substations and that 'should' cripple Robotnik's defensive net. The trainees don't like St. John's attitude (especially Hamlin) but Sally seems to have complete confidence in him. All six work together to destroy the 2nd substation. At the end of Part I however... we see St. John wander off while everyone is asleep... 'teleport' to a laboratory somewhere, and look what appears to be a duplicate of Sally in a chamber. ( Part II ) While hang-gliding in to the third substation, Arlo's glider is shot and he crashes in the trees. Penelope stays with him while the others go to the substation. They succeed in destroying it but find can't find Arlo or Penelope when they return (no sign of trouble and no tracks)... The go back to camp hoping their missing comrades will either be there or will somehow show up. After a few hours there's still no sign of them. Shortly before dawn, while the others are asleep, St. John takes Sally (asleep) with him, swaps her with the other Sally, and contacts Robotnik telling of his success. The next morning, with the 3 substations down and the defenses supposedly crippled, Sally (the other Sally that is), Hamlin, and Dylan begin their raid on Robotropolis (Hamlin wonders where St. John is but Sally says he's scouting ahead. Meanwhile, St. John brings Sally (in the container) to Robotnik. Robotnik seems confident the others are falling for his trap. --- ( Part III ) And now for the Conclusion of 'Deadliest of the Species' Sally, Hamlin, and Dylan are fighting their way into Robotropolis with their paint-guns and grenades (blinding the SWATBots). Dylan's believes that attacking at half-strength isn't wise yet they press on. Hamlin nearly falls from a collapsing catwalk but Sally rescues him. The eventually reach their objective, break down the doors, and find... Robotnik, St. John, and Sally (in the container). Hamlin realizes Geffory must be a traiter so he jumps him. Sally breaks it up and says she and St. John are on the same side... The jig is up! Robotnik announces that Sally is an Auto-Automaton (a perfect robot duplicate in every way) and that there was NO weakness in the defense system. With the first Auto-Automaton successful his masterplan is to replace key members of the freedom fighters (i.e. we see Auto-Automatons of Sonic and Tails being built) Robotnik also plans to roboticize Sally (the one in the container which St. John brought). Robotnik begins the roboticization process but the chamber blows up! A "feedback loop" occurred. Something which is impossible unless... the subject is ALREADY a robot. He tried to robotizice the Auto-Automaton and the REAL Sally was with Dylan and Hamlin!. Sally tries to 'arrest' Robotnik, but he had a backup plan. Large Stealth'Bots begin coming out of the walls and capture the freedom fighters. ( Its interesting to note that you could see outlines of the Stealth'Bots 5 pages back when the freedom fighters first entered ). St. John clicks on a remote control and a vehicle burrows its way up from the floor! Out pop Penelope, Arlo, and three 'moles' from the vehicle. They help free Sally, Dylan and Hamlin (more paint-guns). Robotnik however, manages to activate a 30 second self-destruct sequence and slides down an escape chute. With the seconds ticking away, Sally and the others all head to the Vehicle Maintenance area and grab saucer-shaped air-cars ( from Hangar 18.. haw haw ) and 'Shooom!' out of there with no time to spare. With everyone back at the base, Sally gives Hamlin, Penelope, Arlo, and Dylan Battlefield Commissions and promotes them to full-fledged Freedom Fighters. But.. How did all this happen??? Afterwards Sally explains: The FIRST 'Sally Switch' occurred right at the beginning of Part I shortly after meeting St. John. St. John was really the leader of the 'Rebel Underground' and acted as a double agent in order to gain Robotnik's trust and activate the robot duplicate prematurely in order to find out what its plans were. It was the Auto-Automaton Sally which helped attack the 2nd and 3rd substations. The Auto-Automaton was such a good copy that it gave orders, made hard choices, and even grieved for missing comrades. There were TWO differences though: (1) Robot Sally wore a Purple vest while the real one wore blue. (2) Robot Sally referred to St. John as "Geoffrey" while the real Sally referred to him as "Mister Saint John". The SECOND 'Sally Switch' was done in Part II so Robotnik could see it. Robotnik (as well as most readers) thought that this was the first and only switch. And what about Arlo and Penelope? They were taken away by the Rebel Underground moles which literally came up from underground. St. John's Rebel Underground were also ment to be a 'Safety Net' in case something unexpected came up. The story ends with Sally trying to convince Geoffery to come with her to Knothole. Geoffery declines the offer because the Rebel Underground still need him. He does give her a passionate goodbye kiss though. (Yo Sonic! Watch out!) ----- This is definitely one of the most complicated story Archie's 'Sonic' group has ever come up with. Congrats Archie Crew... I really enjoyed it! ==== SallyGrams ==== Horace Hawkins (14) wishes Sally a Happy Valentine's Day. He also says he'd like to be her boyfriend. Editor Scott Fulop asks if you'd like to see a montly Princess Sally comic... If so, send a postcard with the printed words: Give Me Princess Sally. Montly. Now!!! And send it to: Sally-Grams c/o Archie Comic Publishing 325 Fayette Ave Mamaroneck, NY 10543 Also look for 'Sonic & Knuckles 48-page Special #1' coming in May! -- "The Q stands for 'Uality'" -- Dilbert From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Wed Apr 12 03:02:30 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id DAA18451 for sonic-ll; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 03:02:24 -0400 Received: from mailhost.primenet.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id DAA18446 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 03:02:22 -0400 Received: from usr1.primenet.com (usr1.primenet.com [198.68.32.11]) by mailhost.primenet.com (8.6.11/wjp-h2.0) with ESMTP id AAA00422 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 00:03:35 -0700 Received: (rotor@localhost) by usr1.primenet.com (8.6.11/wjp-c2.0) id AAA06010; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 00:03:31 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 00:03:30 -0700 (MST) From: Bookshire Draftwood To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Unknown Elevator Entity Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Not ten minutes ago, I heard, from a friend on America On-line, that he apparently knows a reliable source close to who used to be the Producer of the SatAM Sonic show. . . Now to put the debate at rest once and for all...this source said that the creatur in the elevator with Snively at the end of"The Doomsday Project" was..... was............. was...................Knuckles himself! I am not kidding! See ya' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "What do you get when you cross a lawyer with a godfather?" "You get an offer you can't understand." --David Pistone's distinguished collection of dumb lawyer jokes David M. Pistone -- rotor@primenet.com __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ ftp.primenet.com/users/r/rotor /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / http://www.primenet.com/~rotor / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ / ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Wed Apr 12 14:30:00 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA20586 for sonic-ll; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 14:29:36 -0400 Received: from saul5.u.washington.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA20579 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 14:29:32 -0400 Received: by saul5.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA32537; Wed, 12 Apr 95 11:30:48 -0700 X-Sender: lazuli@saul5.u.washington.edu Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 11:30:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Sloniker To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: Unknown Elevator Entity In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Wed, 12 Apr 1995, Bookshire Draftwood wrote: > Not ten minutes ago, I heard, from a friend on America On-line, that he > apparently knows a reliable source close to who used to be the Producer > of the SatAM Sonic show. . . While the deleted spoiler about who's in the tube with Snively is interesting, and also plausible (someone else on the list guessed it), this chain of associations is somewhat less than reliable. Any chance you can follow the chain back to the source and get more official confirmation thereof? ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer lazuli@u.washington.edu If ignorance is bliss, why aren't there more blissful people? From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Thu Apr 13 14:56:52 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA25056 for sonic-ll; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 14:56:23 -0400 Received: from smtp.utexas.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA25051 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 14:56:21 -0400 Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by smtp.utexas.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA19542 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:52:59 -0500 Received: from slip-1-10.ots.utexas.edu (slip-1-10.ots.utexas.edu [128.83.204.10]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA15369 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:48:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199504131848.NAA15369@mail.utexas.edu> X-Sender: n5una@mail.utexas.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 13:46:25 -0500 To: sonic@sard.mv.net From: n5una@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU (Shawn Wolski) Subject: Locating people... Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net I suppose everyone's on FurToonia! CU there in the future! ________________________________________________________________ Shawn Wolski, N5UNA (RL), David_Prower on FurToonia An Indoctrinated Sonic T. Hedgehog Story Author, and Official Sonic FAQ File HTML Correspondent. "Aside from the simulations in the restructure of the dynamic graviton warp drive field, this is my first attempt." -David, in response to Dulcy as to the feasibility of his use of warp drive to transport more than himself in FTL space: "Mirror Image" n5una@mail.utexas.edu and visit my gradually expanding home page: http://wwwvms.utexas.edu/~n5una/index.html _______________________________________________________________ From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Thu Apr 13 20:14:18 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id UAA26475 for sonic-ll; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 20:14:03 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id UAA26470 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 20:14:01 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) id UAA26920; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 20:09:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 20:09:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2" To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: Locating people... In-Reply-To: <199504131848.NAA15369@mail.utexas.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Thu, 13 Apr 1995, Shawn Wolski wrote: > I suppose everyone's on FurToonia! CU there in the future! I'm not at this time. I don't really expect to have time to really try for a while yet. I did make a trial connection last weekend mostly to make sure I could connect. My software choked on the intro screen, but otherwise no problems. I wish they provided a command prompt character (like ">", ".", "%", etc.) so one would know when long text dumps are finished. I couldn't do anything but read news and info, which is more or less what I expected. From what I've seen from the help info, it appears that learning my way around there is going to be about as challenging as taking on another programming language. For now, the story I'm co-writing has priority over other net.sonic-activities except for the daily care and feeding of this list. For when the time comes, I do now know that it is possible for me to connect. BTW, is there any printed documentation for FT? I'm really going to need to RTFM before connecting for real. |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| | A! JW2 WAR++ PI~ BR+i SL++++i SK+++ RI++^ RU+ GDF BU+ MI- MM KK-- | | P++ D $++ E59 Ee5 Eee35 TRita Ay68 M | | "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog | |-- A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! ------------------------------| From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Thu Apr 13 22:15:01 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA26970 for sonic-ll; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:14:53 -0400 Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA26965 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:14:48 -0400 Received: from edmund (edmund.cs.andrews.edu) by peter.cs.andrews.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA13798; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:16:17 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (5.x) id AA09490; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:16:16 -0400 Message-Id: <9504140216.AA09490@edmund> Subject: Re: Locating people... To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:16:15 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "Erich Schulman" at Apr 13, 95 08:09:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Cut to the chase: > > On Thu, 13 Apr 1995, Shawn Wolski wrote: > > > I suppose everyone's on FurToonia! CU there in the future! > > I'm not at this time. I don't really expect to have time to really try > for a while yet. I did make a trial connection last weekend mostly to > make sure I could connect. My software choked on the intro screen, but > For when the time comes, I do now know that it is possible for me to > connect. BTW, is there any printed documentation for FT? I'm really > going to need to RTFM before connecting for real. > > |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| That makes two of us! We now return you to your regularly scheduled rodent. ================================================================ || ___------__ || || |\__-- /\ _- || Daniel J. Drazen || | / __ _ || drazen@andrews.edu || //\ / \ /__ || || | o| 0|__ --_ || Custodian of one of the Sonic || \\____-- __ \ ___ - || the Hedgehog FAQ Files || (@@ __/ / /_ || || -_____--- --_ || ASCII Sonic by Han J. Lee ================================================================ From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Thu Apr 13 22:16:25 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA26994 for sonic-ll; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:16:24 -0400 Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA26984 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:15:38 -0400 Received: from edmund (edmund.cs.andrews.edu) by peter.cs.andrews.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA13815; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:17:07 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (5.x) id AA09606; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:17:05 -0400 Message-Id: <9504140217.AA09606@edmund> Subject: Sonic FAQ File To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:17:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net ___------__ |\__-- /\ _- |/ __ _ //\ / \ /__ | o| 0|__ --_ \\____-- __ \ ___ - (@@ __/ / /_ -_____--- --_ // \ \\ - //|\__/ \\ ___- \_-\_____/ \-\ // \\--\| ____// ||_ /___//_\ /___\ ascii Sonic by Han J. Lee |====================== THE SONIC FAQ FILE =====================| Apr 7, 1995 edition Compiled by: Daniel J. Drazen Contributors: Ron Bauerle, Brad Clark, James Firmiss, Maureen Furniss, Craig Moore, Michiyo Nakajima, Paula O'Keefe, Eric E. Pearson, Jeff Pegnato, David Pistone, Alessandro Sanasi, Erich Schulman, Fred Sloniker, Andy White, Shawn Wolski Address all comments, corrections, contributions and flames to: drazen@andrews.edu ***************************************************************** WHAT'S NEW?: [Note: There WILL be spoilers. You have been warned. DJD] #23 Jun 1995 "Ivo Robotnik, Freedom Fighter" Story: Angelo Decesare; Art: Dave Manak Sonic, Sally, Rotor, Tails, Robotnik and Snively are all captured by Car-Heem, a giant alien who wants to study them. In order to save Robotnik from "disposal," Sonic convinces Car-Heem that they are interdependent species, a novelty to the autonomous Car-Heem. Thanks to a diversion by Sonic, the others escape their confinement in a craft of Robotnik's design. Although Robotnik blows Car-Heem and Sonic out of the alien spacecraft's airlock, Rotor retrieves them. In gratitude, Car-Heem returns everyone to Mobius and Rotor, inspired, releases the inhabitants of his ant farm [Heavy Message]. There's also a really bad pun which I'm not going to reveal. Do-It-Yourself Sonic Contest winners announced. "Vol-ANT-teer" Story: Angelo Decesare; Art: Dave Manak Antoine ventures into Robotropolis alone to retrieve Tails' lost backpack with a power ring in it. Bunnie shadows him just in case. Surprising last panel gives the impression that Antoine isn't entirely clueless. Sonicgram: Further indication that Knuckles will put in an appearance in the next Sonic special, though no hint as to his allegiance; also look for an appearance by Knack the Weasel [c.f., the Triple Trouble game] in the same issue. "Deadliest of the Species, Part III" Story: Mike Kanterovich & Ken Penders Art: Art Mawhinney (Summary: James Firmiss) (Recap of parts 0, 1 and 2 omitted) Sally, Hamlin and Dylan are fighting their way into Robotropolis with paint guns and grenades (blinding SWATbots). Dylan believes that attacking at half strength isn't wise, yet they press on. Hamlin nearly falls from a collapsing catwalk but Sally rescues him. They eventually reach their objective, break down the doors and find...Robotnik, St. John and Sally (in the container). Hamlin believes Geoffrey to be a traitor so he jumps him. Sally breaks it up and says she and St. John are on the same side. Robotnic reveals that Sally is an auto-automaton, a perfect robot duplicate, and that there was no weakness in the defense system. His master plan is to replace key members of the freedom fighters--we see auto-automatons of Sonic and Tails being built. Robotnik also plans to roboticize the Sally delivered to him by St. John. Robotnik begins the roboticization process but the chamber blows up because a "feedback loop" has occurred. Something which is impossible unless...he were trying to roboticize a robot! The real Sally was with Dylan and Hamlin. Sally tries to 'arrest' Robotnik, but large StealthBots emerge from the walls and capture the freedom fighters. Note: you could see the outlines of the StealthBots 5 pages back. St. John pushes a button on a remote control and a vehicle burrows its way up through the floor. Out pop Penelope, Arlo and three "moles". They help free Sally, Dylan and Hamlin (more paint guns). Robotnik manages to activate a 30-second self-destruct and disappears down an escape chute. Sally and the others all head for the vehicle maintenance area and grab saucer-shaped air cars (from Hanger 18! X-P ) and get out with no time to spare. With everyone back at the base, Hamlin, Penelope, Arlo and Dylan are promoted to full-fledged freedom fighters. Sally tries to convince Geoffrey to come to Knothole but he declines in order to rejoin the Rebel Underground. He does engage Sally in some serious lip-locking before they part. If you're not confused yet, here's a run-down of the plot- twists, as Sally explains them at the end: The FIRST Sally switch occurred right at the beginning of Part 1 shortly after meeting St. John. St. John really was the leader of the "Rebel Underground" and acted as a double agent in order to gain Robotnik's trust and activate the robot double prematurely in order to find out what its plans were. It was the auto-automaton Sally that helped attack the 2d and 3d substations. It was such a good copy that it could give orders, make hard choices, and even grieve for missing comrades. But did you notice the two clues that would have tipped you off that this was an automated Sally: 1. "Auto" Sally wore a purple vest instead of a blue one. 2. "Auto" Sally referred to Geoffrey by his first name, while the real Sally always called him "Mr. St. John." The SECOND Sally switch occurred in Part II, when Robotnik (and the reader) was supposed to think that Sally was being replaced by a robot double. And what about Arlo and Penelope? They were taken away by the moles from the literal Rebel UNDERGROUND. The Rebel Underground was also supposed to be backup in case anything unexpected happened. "This is definitely one of the most complicated stories Archie's Sonic group has ever come up with. Congrats...." JF SallyGram: Horace Hawkins (14) wishes Sally a Happy Valentine's Day, and expresses the desire to be her boyfriend. LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD! Scott Fulop (Editor) asks if there is interest in a MONTHLY Sally comic. If so, send a postcard with the following: Give me Princess Sally. Monthly. NOW!!! to: SallyGrams c/o Archie Comic Publishing 325 Fayette Avenue Mamaroneck, NY 10543 Attention WEB-Slingers: The following individuals have set up Sonic the Hedgehog home pages on the World Wide Web. You can access them at: David Pistone http://www.primenet.com/~rotor Stories and fanart Shawn Wolski http://wwwvms.utexas.edu/~n5una/index.html Fanart and this FAQ file **************************************************************** I. FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS II. SOURCE DESCRIPTIONS A. SONIC THE HEDGEHOG EPISODE GUIDE B. SONIC COMICS DESCRIPTIONS C. OTHER SOURCES I. FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ============================= Q1: How did Tails come to have two tails? Q2: Is "Tails" his real name? Q3: Is Tails related to Sally? He calls her "Aunt Sally" quite often. Q4: I can't figure out what kinds of animals some of the characters are supposed to be. Q5: "Sally Acorn?" Q6: How old are the characters supposed to be? Q7: What happened to the Princess Sally miniseries? Q8: Does anyone have a theory about Sonic's speed? Q9: Why didn't ABC renew Sonic for a third season? ================================================================ Q1: How did Tails come to have two tails? A: The writers of Sonic comics solicited reader responses to this in issue #___; the replies were printed in issue #___. They range from transplantation to mutation. The latest entry is in the Sonicgram of #22. They state that Tails just happened to be born that way--with no other comment (thus illustrating the difference between an Explanation and an Answer). At this point, there is no "official" explanation as to how Tails got that way, so you're pretty much free to believe what you like. Personally, I prefer the theory that it is a mutation, induced by Robotnik's pollution of Mobius. This would accord with the fact that Tails had not been born when Robotnik took over (cf. Q6). Q2: Is "Tails" his real name? A: No, his real name is "Miles Prower" (you have to say it sorta fast to get the joke). That was his name when he was introduced on the front screen of the Sonic 2 video game. Tails was given as his nickname, and it stuck. Q3: Is Tails related to Sally? He calls her "Aunt Sally" quite often. A:This argument has been put forward by the "Sally is a fox" camp (see below). However, if that were true, then he'd also be related to Bunnie, as he's been known to address her as "Aunt Bunnie." For that matter, it seems that everyone in the Knothole gang refers to Sir Charles Hedgehog as "Uncle Chuck," though he's technically only uncle to Sonic. While it was not explicitly stated in either the comics or in the cartoons, it has to be kept in mind that all of the freedom fighters' families were disrupted by Robotnik's takeover of Mobius. It's safe to assume that they all have had relatives who have ended up being roboticized. As a result, they have become not so much a paramilitary resistance group as a loose-knit family. Sonic, for instance, clearly relates to Tails as if the latter was his little brother, the difference in species notwithstanding. Q4: I can't figure out what kinds of animals some of the characters are supposed to be. A: Admittedly, it's trickier to spot some species in the series than others. Herewith is the list: Sonic and Sir Charles. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .hedgehogs Bunnie . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . rabbit Tails. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .fox Rotor. . . . . . . . . . . . . .walrus (sea lion, cf. Teitelbaum) Antoine D'Coolette . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .fox Sally Acorn. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ground squirrel/chipmunk Sally's father . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .fox The identification of Sally as a ground squirrel is based on extended discussion of the topic on Internet {alt.fan.furry and rec.arts.animation). She was also declared to be a ground squirrel in the comics, most recently in the Sonicgram of Sonic #19. As for the designation "ground squirrel/chipmunk", which has been questioned by at least one correspondent, I entered it this way on the assumption that the two terms were synonymous. I have consulted a dictionary, which states that the term "ground squirrel" applies to several kinds of rodents, including the chipmunk genus _Tamias_. Given the present ambiguity, the designation will remain as is. Despite this, controversy continues. Identifying Sally's species has been particularly vexing to some fans, especially those who reason that since Sally's father is clearly a fox, then she must be one herself. It is possible that Sally takes after her mother in this regard more than her father. Cross-species mating is a definite possibility, and an example is implied in the "flashforward" at the end of "Sally's Crusade" [Sonic: In Your Face #1]. At this point, the identification of Sally's nanny, Rosie, remains ambiguous. Given her buck teeth, she could be either a beaver or a woodchuck. Since she is always shown wearing a long cloak, I've been unable to spot the character beaver tail. Final identification is still pending. Q5: "Sally Acorn"? A: This is how she was identified as far back as the beginning of the comics [Sonic Miniseries, #0, Mar 1993]. Technically, royalty do not have surnames or family names in the accepted sense; rather, the title of the personage tends to serve the purpose. Her middle name, Alicia, is apparently seldom used (cf. "Blast to the Past," part 1). If you wanted to be grandiose about it, Sally's formal title would be: Sally Alicia, Princess of the House of Acorn. But in any event it's unlikely that Sally's formal title will come back into use so long as Robotnik is in charge. Q6: How old are the characters supposed to be? A: According to the TV series ["Blast to the Past: part 1"] Sonic and Sally were both 5 years old when Sally's father was overthrown and Robotnik took over. Two other age clues were given in the "Drood Henge" episode: that Tails was 10 years old, and that Sally wouldn't "come of age" for another two years. At one point, Sally's age is explicitly given as being 16, though the comics reportedly put both at age 15. Subtracting 5 from 16 leaves the number of years Robotnik has been in charge: 11. Thus, it would appear that Tails was born after the fall of the House of Acorn. Still, the simplest way out of this dilemma would be to put the age of majority on Mobius at 17 instead of 18; that would eliminate the extra year differential without altering the stated ages of Sonic and Sally (in the comics) or of Tails (in "Drood Henge"). Q7: What happened to the Princess Sally miniseries? A: Archie Comics was supposed to roll out a three-part miniseries starring Sally as the main character. The story actually began with "Deadliest of the Species" in Sonic #20. The cover art for the miniseries, however, differed in subsequent advertisements: one cover for the first issue prominently featured Geoffrey St. John, while another did not. The third issue cover either does or doesn't feature Sally doing battle with a clone of herself, depending upon where you see it. Two different versions of the cover for #2 appeared in Sonic #22. The fact that the Sally creative team PLUS Archie Comics PLUS Sega reportedly came together to discuss "improving" the series (as reported in the Sonicgram for Sonic #21) would seem to indicate that someone had come down with a case of "creative differences." In any event, the "improved" Sally miniseries began shipping the week of Feb 13. Q8: Does anyone have a theory about Sonic's speed? A: How, in other words, is Sonic able to run so fast? Apparently the same way you get to Carnegie Hall in the old joke: practice. I'm serious; here is the only print explanation I've come across so far: "Years ago, when things were right on Mobius, there lived a hedgehog named Sonic.... Sonic was only interested in running as fast as he could. Every day he practiced." [Michael Teitelbaum, _Sonic the Hedgehog_. Mahwah, NJ: Troll, 1993, pp.7- 8]. And that's the extent of Teitelbaum's explanation. Thanks a heap, Mike! Q9: Why didn't ABC renew Sonic for a third season? A: The following represents the positions of neither ABC, Sega nor DiC, but rather is a recap of scuttlebutt on the Sonic e-mail group: DiC allegedly screwed the pooch by releasing StH animation cels onto the market without clearing it with Sega. Upon learning of this, Sega took umbrage that its property was being sold without its consent or agreement to a cut of the action (can you say "anal retentive"?). Words were exchanged and the show was effectively cancelled. ================================================================= NOTICE: The fact that episode and story summaries appear here means there is a good chance that you will encounter spoilers. This is your only notice! II. SOURCE DESCRIPTIONS A. SONIC THE HEDGEHOG EPISODE GUIDE 1. First Season: 1993-94 Super Sonic Writer: Jules Dennis When Nicole malfunctions, Sonic and Sally go to Robotropolis to get replacement parts. While there, they discover the Forbidden Zone and a being named Lezar. Lezar causes Sonic to lose his speed abilities, and teaches him that he can still accomplish things without it. Sonic Boom Writer: Len Janson While on a mission in Robotropolis, Sally intercepts a message which includes the use of her father's pet name for her. They follow the lead to the Dark Swamp and the remains of Ironlock Prison. In the process, a freedom fighter named Cat is captured. The freedom fighters gain maps to Robotropolis, but the search for Sally's father proves futile. Sonic and Sally Writers: Pat Allee and Ben Hurst Before becoming the principle writers for the second season, Allee and Hurst wrote this account of Sally's capture by Robotnik's forces. Sonic rescues what he thinks is Sally but what is instead a robot double. Back in Knothole, Tails begins to doubt Sally's behavior because of small details, such as how she reads a bedtime story. After first dismissing Tails' fears, Sonic also comes to realizes he's been dealing with a "Stepford Sally." Hooked on Sonics Writer: Randy Rogel In an attempt to impress Sally, Antoine tries to capture Robotnik by himself. He attempts to lure Robotnik into the open with the offer of a power ring, but Antoine is himself captured and Sonic has to rescue him. Ultra Sonic Writer: David Villaire While on a raid in Robotropolis, Sonic finds his Uncle Chuck as a robot worker in a crystal mine. Uncle Chuck recovers his mind and will long enough to help destroy a giant crystal which would have damaged the ecosystem of the entire planet. As Uncle Chuck loses control of his will, Sonic vows to return for him. Sonic's Nightmare Writer: Frank Santopadre The freedom fighters are captured and held on a deserted island refinery. Sonic must not only rescue them but he also has to deal with a recurring nightmare where he unable to prevent Sally's being roboticized. Warp Sonic Writer: Matt Uitz The freedom fighters discover an underground civilization called Lower Mobius and one of its citizens, Griff. Lower Mobius draws energy from a power crystal, but it is weakening. Feigning friendship, Griff visits Knothole and steals the power stone which is the source of the power rings. After fighting off some mechanical rats, the power stone is retrieved. Griff apologizes for his theft and is given a portion of the stone to aid Lower Mobius. Harmonic Sonic Writer: David Villaire After Robotnik launches a robot-manned orbiting space station to locate Knothole, the Knothole freedom fighters use a rocket booster to reach and destroy it. Sonic and the Secret Scrolls Writer: Janis Diamond The freedom fighters journey to Mauga (sp?) to recover some legendary scrolls, but Robotnik is tailing them. Robotnik's ship is hurled off a plateau by a violent wind, and the Knothole gang mistakenly believe he is finished. Will they make the same mistake at the end of the second season? Sub-Sonic Writer: Barbara Slade Sonic discovers a stream of water that makes plants grow at a fantastic rate. In their search for the source, the Knothole gang discover a subterranean creature whose habitat has been disturbed by Robotnik's drilling operations. Heads or Tails Writer: Len Janson On a raid of Robotropolis, Sonic runs into Muttski, his now- roboticized pet dog and vows to return him to normal someday. The freedom fighters also have to contend with a squadron of Buzzbombers carrying an orange defoliant [Agent Orange? Hmmmm...] intent on destroying the Great Forest and exposing Knothole. Artwork in this ep is decidedly off-model. Sonic Past Cool Writers: Kayte Kuch & Sheryl Scarborough Tails finds a baby terrapod and the freedom fighters escort the terrapod herd to Boulder Bay, where they will be safe from Robotnik. Sonic Racer Writer: Len Janson While on a mission to disable Robotnik's power generators, Sonic is tempted into participating in a contest against a super-fast robot designed to capture him. While he engages the bot, Bunnie, Sally and Antoine go after their target: Robotnik's back-up generator. 2. Second Season: 1994-95 Game Guy Sonic rescues someone from capture by Robotnik; he turns out to be Ari, a freedom fighter from another group. Ari directs Sonic to a place which turns out to be a trap. Sonic manages to escape (after Robotnik toys with him), but Ari--whose comrades were roboticized and who was himself deceived by Robotnik--is sucked into the Void. Before falling into the Void, Ari says something about a list of other freedom fighters. Sonic Conversion To my way of thinking, THE breakthrough episode for the series! The Knothole gang test a deroboticizing process on Bunnie, whose partially-roboticized body is returned to normal. Sonic then goes after Uncle Chuck and is able to convince him to undergo the process. However, the process turns out to be only temporary as, in a poignant scene, Bunnie reverts to a half-robot. When Uncle Chuck reverts to robotic form, he captures Tails and Antoine for delivery to Robotnik; Sonic confronts him and manages to break the hold on Uncle Chuck's mind. Uncle Chuck returns to Robotropolis to work as a spy for the Knothole gang. No Brainer Sonic's thought processes are temporarily scrambled while on a mission in Robotropolis. Taking advantage of the situation, Snively convinces Sonic that they are friends. The disruption wears off just as the Knothole gang face imminent capture. Blast to the Past (two parts) Dulcy takes Sonic and Sally to a floating island where they use the Time Stones to return to Mobotropolis on the eve of the planet's conquest by Dr. Robotnik (then known as Julian, affiliated with the War Ministry and supposedly in charge of its dismantling). They also encounter themselves as 5-year-olds and learn that it was Sonic's Uncle Chuck who had perfected the roboticizer process in the first place, though Julian/Robotnik stole the process. Sally and Sonic work to keep their child selves from being roboticized, to prevent the Great Forest from being destroyed, and to make sure that Sally's nanny, Rosie, would not get captured. Fed Up With Antoine/Ghost Busted (back to back episodes) Feeling unappreciated, Antoine allows himself to be made "king" by a group of renegades, unaware that with the office comes the "honor" of being an entree./While out camping, Sonic's ghost story panics Tails, and Antoine once more demonstrates his ineptitude. Dulcy Dulcy begins having overpowering urges to fly to Dragonsnest, a nesting site for female dragons. She, Sonic and Sally, arrive just as Robotnik has captured another female dragon; they then discover the dragon's egg inside Dragonsnest. Taking the egg back to Knothole, they rescue the female dragon who returns in time to hatch the egg. The Void Sonic discovers an opening to the Void while out in the "Great Unknown" [another name for the Forbidden Zone?]. Sally and Bunnie are put under a spell and pulled into the Void by a sorcerer named Naugus, who had been imprisoned there years before by Robotnik and who needs Sonic's speed to escape. Sonic learns what has happened from Nicole and allows himself to be pulled into the Void. Attempting to rescue Sally and Bunnie, he is tricked into rescuing what he thinks is Sally's father but is really Naugus. Sonic returns to the Void and finds not only Sally and Bunnie but the King and Ari as well. He brings them all out, but Naugus and the King have spent so much time in the Void that their bodies cannot handle living on Mobius. Naugus breaks off his tormenting of Robotnik, and Sally's father gives her the list of other resistance groups. On the whole, Sally goes through the emotional rollercoaster ride of her life. The Odd Couple/Ro-Becca (back to back episodes) After a crash landing by Dulcy leaves Sonic homeless he moves in with Antoine, who predictably gets bent out of shape by Sonic's lifestyle./Rotor cobbles together a robot which develops the hots for Antoine. Cry of the Wolf The Knothole freedom fighters search for and discover the Wolf Pack, the remnants of an ancient race who are now one of the other resistance groups. After several unsuccessful attempts to destroy a test pod from the Doomsday Project, Sonic draws it into a lightning storm and destroys it. Drood Henge Sonic and Tails discover an archaeological dig by Robotnik; they learn from Nicole that the object of the search is the Deep Power Stones, and that Robotnik has recovered one of the two. Tails comes up with a plan to retrieve the second stone before Robotnik can get to it. Spyhog On the eve of final preparations of the Doomsday project, Robotnik begins to suspect that there is a spy in his midst. Uncle Chuck's cover is blown, but he escapes capture and goes back underground with a different cover. Doomsday In the season finale, a combined force of the five freedom fighter groups tries to destroy the Doomsday project. Robotnik, however, seems to have too many safeguards built in. As a last resort, Sonic and Sally use the Deep Power Stones. The Doomsday project is destroyed; Robotnik's fate is uncertain but Snively is ready to step into his shoes in a burst of megalomania and overacting. Cliffhanger: who or what does Snively have to help him? We'll never know: ABC chose not to run StH for a third season. VOICE CREDITS: SONIC: Jaleel White SALLY: Kath Soucie NICOLE: Kath Soucie (uncredited) TAILS: Bradley Pierce BUNNIE: Christine Cavanaugh ANTOINE: Rob Paulsen ROTOR: Mark Ballou (1st season) Cam Brainard (2d season) DULCY: Cree Summer Franks UNCLE CHUCK: William Windom ROBOTNIK: Jim Cummings SNIVELY: Charlie Adler ADDITIONAL VOICES: (First season): David Doyle Gaille Heindenmann Dana Hill Danny Mann Jason Marsden Charlie Schlatter Frank Welker (Second season): Shari Belafonte: Lupee (?) Michael Bell: Naugus (?) Crystal Cooke Tim Curry: Sally's father; Keeper of the Time Stones Dave Fennoy Dorian Harewood John Kassir Katie Leigh Nancy Linari Victor Love Tahj Mowry Hal Rayle Alaina Reed Hall Lindsay Ridgeway April Winchell Want to contact DiC? Write or phone: DiC 303 North Glenoaks Blvd. Burbank, CA 91502 (818) 955-5400 (818) 955-5696 (FAX) B. SONIC COMICS DESCRIPTIONS [CONTRIBUTIONS WELCOME] Now, direct from the Great White North, Brad Clark summarizes the original Sonic miniseries: Issue 0 "Don't Cry For Me, Mobius" Story: Michael Gallagher, Art: Scott Shaw! Sonic is chased by Dr. Robotnik. After the chase, which Robotnik loses, Sonic returns to Knothole where most of the main characters are introduced for the first time. (Note: Rotor is referred to as "Boomer.") Antoine then announces that there is a leak in Knothole (Knothole is located underground in this issue) that is caused by Robotnik. Sonic defeats Robotnik with a power ring. "The Royal Family of Mobius" Takes place before Robotnik was in power and has Sonic and Uncle Chuck running a chilidog take-out stand. Robotnik destroys the stand and captures Muttski and Uncle Chuck. Sonic meets Sally (with yellow hair and red fur) who introduces him to the rest of the freedom fighters in Knothole. Issue 1 "Run, Sally, Run" Story and art: Gallagher & Shaw! Sally [this time with pink fur and black hair] goes to see Robotnik about the return of her father. Robotnik captures Sally and almost throws her into the "Robo-machine." Sonic rescues Sally only to discover that Sally had wanted to get caught in order to gather information on the roboticizer, using some special boots designed by Boomer/Rotor. Issue 2 "A Crowning Achievement" Gallagher & Shaw! again. Sally decides to wear the "Crown of the Acorn Kings" which belonged to her father, but the crown is missing. They discover a robotic freedom fighter who tells them that Robotnik has stolen the crown and has scattered its jewels (the four Chaos Emeralds) throughout the land. Sonic retrieves the emeralds and Boomer/Rotor repairs the crown. Issue 3 "Sonic Flashback" Gallagher & Shaw! Sonic and Robotnik recall when they were kids. Uncle Chuck invents the power rings. Sonic and Robotnik have an argument, and it escalates until Robotnik is constructing mechanical monsters out of Uncle Chuck's appliances. Sonic then wakes up -- it was all just a daydream -- and resumes being chased by Robotnik. "Why Ask Spy" Sonic is made to look like a robot to trick Robotnik and to destroy one of his factories. In the process, Sonic discovers Uncle Chuck and Muttski who have both been roboticized. Sonic destroys the factory. #18 [Jan 1995]: "Wedding Bell Blues" Robotnik gets word of Sonic and Sally's impending wedding and plans an attack. "In the Still of the Night" While trying to determine the nature of the mysterious orb (cf. "First Star....", #17), Sally is called to the bedside of her old mentor, Julayla, just before she dies. Sonicgram: includes statement that Sonic is 15, and a German fan disses Dave Manak's artwork Sonic: In Your Face #1 [1995] "Sally's Crusade: The Quest" The orb is revealed to be a casing surrounding Nicole. Sally, with the others in tow, searches for what turns out to be Julayla's last testament. The significance of this document is spelled out in a "flashforward" at the end of the story. "Mirror Zone" An excuse to practice backwards lettering. Sonicgram: Sally's age is given as "about 15." [Note, if you're going to guess a lady's age, guess on the low side ;-) ] "Tails' Tallest Tale" Tails substitutes for Sonic, putting in an appearance at a con. His exaggerations almost get him into trouble. Artwork by Shaw!. #19 [Feb 1995]: "Night of a Thousand Sonics" In order to defeat Robotnik's latest scheme, Sonic has to call in as many versions of himself from as many parallel universes as he can. Artwork by Manak for the first half, Mawhinney for the second. Sonicgram: The name of Sally's father is given as "King Acorn" (but see FAQ #5). Scott Fulop hedges on when Knuckles will make an appearance and whose side he'll be on. Again, Sally is identified as a "ground squirrel." Hint is dropped as to a Sonic motion picture in the works. #20 [Mar 1995]: "That's the Spirit" Exposure to an antimatter explosion renders Sonic invisible; Sally and the others [Tails being the exception] believe he is dead. The comedic pacing and Manak's artwork mar what otherwise might have been a very poignant story. Great line (Sonic to Robotnik--who thinks he's dealing with a ghost): "Give Mobius back to the freedom fighters, lose weight and get a hairpiece!" "Deadliest of the Species" [Prologue to the Princess Sally miniseries] While on a sabotage mission, Sally is confronted by someone claiming to be part of a rebel underground. Sonicgram: Once again lists Sally's age as 15. #21 [Apr 1995]: "3 Phases of E.V.E" Pat Spaziante debuts as a story artist. Robotnik unleashes E.V.E. ["exceptionally versatile evolvoid"] to capture Sonic. As Sonic manages to outsmart E.V.E., it simply adapts to another form to compensate. Sonic lures it to Robotnik's headquarters where, assuming a self-conscious form, E.V.E. determines that it is being held back by its biological inheritance from Sonic and Robotnik [i.e., individual cells used in E.V.E.'s creation]. E.V.E. toasts Robotnik, but thanks to some quick thinking by Sonic--apparently, Sally's influence is rubbing off on him ;-) -- E.V.E. spares Sonic and travels out into space on a journey of self-actualization. Is Robotnik really history? That's the tease--stay tuned, probably until after the Sally miniseries. Sonicgram: announcement of the delay in rolling out the Sally miniseries; another special issue (48pp) due out in May. #22 [May 1995] "The Return," written by Ken Penders, art by Pat Spaziante & Harvey M. The story opens with Sonic & Sally MCW (Married with Children; cf. the end of "Sally's Quest" in _In Your Face #1_). Sonic & Sally are out with the kids when, during a lightning storm, an apparition of Robotnik appears and just as suddenly disappears. Have your pencils and scorecards ready to try and follow the remainder of the plot: Robotnik is actually on a satellite talking with Robo-Robotnik from "Night of a Thousand Sonics," (#19), only in this case only the consciousness of Robo-Robotnik (hereinafter "R-R") remains resident. Robotnik convinces R-R to teleport him back to Mobius, where it turns out Snively has activated an alternative Doomesday device which would go off if Robotnik was ever defeated. Robotnik actually deactivates "Operation Wasteland" himself to keep from being ruler over nothing and to have the pleasure of saying to Sonic: "You owe me!" Robotnik and Sonic MWC are declared to be at a stalemate. What about R-R? Who knows? Muddled story saved by Spaziante artwork. "Tails Knighttime Story," written by Angelo Decasare, art by Dave Manak & John Dagostino. As Tails grumps about "get[ting] baby-sat" while Sonic has all the fun and adventures, Sally tells him a bedtime story wherein Sonic is Sir Runalot and Tails is his page who "borrows" his armour one day and who, mistaken for the aforementioned knight, ends up doing battle with Sir Knightmare of Robotannia (guess who?) until the real Sir Runalot saves his...er...tails. Sonicgram: the comics should get a FAQ File, since two letters pepper them with questions (most are answered: "Keep reading." Translation: "we're working on it!"). The cover of Princess Sally #2 in an ad on the same page differs from one which appears on p. 17 of the same issue(!), thus bolstering the "creative differences" theory in Q7. #23 [Jun 1995] "Ivo Robotnik, Freedom Fighter" Story: Angelo Decesare; Art: Dave Manak Sonic, Sally, Rotor, Tails, Robotnik and Snively are all captured by Car-Heem, a giant alien who wants to study them. In order to save Robotnik from "disposal," Sonic convinces Car-Heem that they are interdependent species, a novelty to the autonomous Car-Heem. Thanks to a diversion by Sonic, the others escape their confinement in a craft of Robotnik's design. Although Robotnik blows Car-Heem and Sonic out of Car-Heem's spacecraft's airlock, Rotor retrieves them. In gratitude, Car-Heem returns everyone to Mobius and Rotor, inspired, releases the inhabitants of his ant farm [Heavy Message]. There's also a really bad pun which I'm not going to reveal. Do-It-Yourself Sonic Contest winners announced. "Vol-ANT-teer" Story: Angelo Decesare; Art: Dave Manak Antoine ventures into Robotropolis alone to retrieve Tails' lost backpack with a power ring in it. Bunnie shadows him just in case. Surprising last panel gives the impression that Antoine isn't exactly clueless. Sonicgram: Further indication that Knuckles will put in an appearance in the next Sonic special, though no hint as to his allegiance; look for an appearance by Knack the Weasel [c.f., the Triple Trouble game] in the same issue. Princess Sally Mini-series #1 [April 1995] Summary by Ron Bauerle "Deadliest of the Species!" written by Mike Kanterovich & Ken Penders, art by Art Mawhinney & Rich Koslowski. Opens with a nice splash page summarizing the struggle so far and describes the main characters (get this: "Antoine is renouned for his military skills" - okayyyy...). Next it recaps Sally's meeting Geoffrey St. John...in StH #20. Sally & Geoffrey are attacked by SWATbots after destroying the facility and manage to beat them off [hey, Ron, let's leave their private lives out of this ;-) ] and exchange some banter in the process (I can't call it friendly but it's not really sarcastic either). They then head back to the camp where some young trainee freedom fighters are waiting for Sally. Geoffrey mistakes them for enemies and jumps a pig (Hamlin) but they're separated by Sally. This establishes some bad blood between Hamlin and Geoffrey that continues all issue. The team proceeds to its next target (an energy substation) and after battling SWATbots and ORBbots manage to destroy it. During the battle Geoffrey saves Hamlin's life but Hamlin still doesn't trust him. That night, when everyone else is asleep, Geoffrey slips away, activates a teleportal, enters some kind of building and descends to its basement where he speaks to a figure in a glass case: Sally!? Also some fan art: two pics of Sally & Bunnie (both NBD), and one of Sally as a dominatrix (!). Princess Sally Miniseries #2 (Summary by Erich Schulman): The story opens with a fight between St. John and Hamlin, and Sally gives Hamlin a scolding. To reach the third, undestroyed substation, the freedom fighters use a new (!?) technology: hang gliders. Arlo's hang glider is hit by the defenses and he is wounded in action; Penelope volunteers to stay with him. Once inside, Sally and St. John are attacked by an octopod, and everyone barely manages to escape the explosions. Upon leaving, they find that Sally and Penelope are gone. Sally says they will return to camp without them (to which Hamlin is opposed), and they never show up again. Did you have your doubts about St. John? That night, St. John replaces Sally with a lookalike robot and delivers the real Sally to Robotnik. Fan mail (singular; only one letter appears): Will Sonic and Sally marry? "Could be." Has Sally met Knuckles? She will in a forthcoming 48-page S&K special. Does Sally have a mother, and if so what does she look like? "Of course...her origin may yet be told." Or [shameless plug] you can read about it in "Bloodlines" in the fanfic section of Rotor's homepage. "Deadliest of the Species, Part III" Story: Mike Kanterovich & Ken Penders Art: Art Mawhinney (Summary: James Firmiss) (Recap of parts 0, 1 and 2 omitted) Sally, Hamlin and Dylan are fighting their way into Robotropolis with paint guns and grenades (blinding SWATbots). Dylan believes that attacking at half strength isn't wise, yet they press on. Hamlin nearly falls from a collapsing catwalk but Sally rescues him. They eventually reach their objective, break down the doors and find...Robotnik, St. John and Sally (in the container). Hamlin believes Geoffrey to be a traitor so he jumps him. Sally breaks it up and says she and St. John are on the same side. Robotnic reveals that Sally is an auto-automaton, a perfect robot duplicate, and that there was no weakness in the defense system. His master plan is to replace key members of the freedom fighters--we see auto-automatons of Sonic and Tails being built. Robotnik also plans to roboticize the Sally delivered to him by St. John. Robotnik begins the roboticization process but the chamber blows up because a "feedback loop" has occurred. Something which is impossible unless...he were trying to roboticize a robot! The real Sally was with Dylan and Hamlin. Sally tries to 'arrest' Robotnik, but large StealthBots emerge from the walls and capture the freedom fighters. Note: you could see the outlines of the StealthBots 5 pages back. St. John pushes a button on a remote control and a vehicle burrows its way up through the floor. Out pop Penelope, Arlo and three "moles". They help free Sally, Dylan and Hamlin (more paint guns). Robotnik manages to activate a 30-second self-destruct and disappears down an escape chute. Sally and the others all head for the vehicle maintenance area and grab saucer-shaped air cars (from Hanger 18! X-P ) and get out with no time to spare. With everyone back at the base, Hamlin, Penelope, Arlo and Dylan are promoted to full-fledged freedom fighters. Sally tries to convince Geoffrey to come to Knothole but he declines in order to rejoin the Rebel Underground. He does engage Sally in some serious lip-locking before they part. If you're not confused yet, here's a run-down of the plot- twists, as Sally explains them at the end: The FIRST Sally switch occurred right at the beginning of Part 1 shortly after meeting St. John. St. John really was the leader of the "Rebel Underground" and acted as a double agent in order to gain Robotnik's trust and activate the robot double prematurely in order to find out what its plans were. It was the auto-automaton Sally that helped attack the 2d and 3d substations. It was such a good copy that it could give orders, make hard choices, and even grieve for missing comrades. But did you notice the two clues that would have tipped you off that this was an automated Sally: 1. "Auto" Sally wore a purple vest instead of a blue one. 2. "Auto" Sally referred to Geoffrey by his first name, while the real Sally always called him "Mr. St. John." The SECOND Sally switch occurred in Part II, when Robotnik (and the reader) was supposed to think that Sally was being replaced by a robot double. And what about Arlo and Penelope? They were taken away by the moles from the literal Rebel UNDERGROUND. The Rebel Underground was also supposed to be backup in case anything unexpected happened. "This is definitely one of the most complicated stories Archie's Sonic group has ever come up with. Congrats...." JF SallyGram: Horace Hawkins (14) wishes Sally a Happy Valentine's Day, and expresses the desire to be her boyfriend. LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD! Scott Fulop (Editor) asks if there is interest in a MONTHLY Sally comic. If so, send a postcard with the following: Give me Princess Sally. Monthly. NOW!!! to: SallyGrams c/o Archie Comic Publishing 325 Fayette Avenue Mamaroneck, NY 10543 NOTES FROM THE NET: that's the heading suggested for comix- related posts to a.f.s-h by none other than Paul Castiglia of Archie Comics. Seems P.C. thinks that NftN would make a good subsection of the Sonic Grams, and said so in a recent post. The idea is that you can post to a.f.s-h, and your post (and e-mail address if you want) will be reprinted in NftN. But ONLY if you specify that it's for NftN. Apparently Archie Comics is still getting a feel for whether they should go ahead with the plan, so let's see some support for it! Hmmm, wonder if Sally's e-mail address is princess@frdmftrs.mobius.org ? COMIC PUBLISHERS: For subscriptions and back issues--US & Canada: Archie Comics 325 Fayette Avenue Mamaroneck, NY 10543 (914) 381-5155. $15.00/year US monthly $18.00/year CAN monthly For subscriptions and back issues--United Kingdom (Fleetway Editions comics): Sonic The Comic Subscription Dept. OR Back Issue Zone Aim Ltd. P.O. Box 10 Pallion Industrial Estate Sunderland, SR4 6SN UNITED KINGDOM 01144-91-5102290 L28.60 (=28 pounds, 60 pence)/year UK fortnightly L45.00/year Europe fortnightly L47.00/year Overseas surface mail fortnightly L55.00/year Overseas airmail fortnightly C. OTHER SOURCES Michael Teitelbaum, _Sonic the Hedgehog_ (c)1993; _Sonic the Hedgehog: Robotnik's Revenge_ (c)1994; _Sonic the Hedgehog: Fortress of Fear_ (c)1994: Mahwah, New Jersey: Troll Associates. _Sonic the Hedgehog_ synopsis: COMING SOON _Sonic the Hedgehog: Robotnik's Revenge_ synopsis: one of the Knothole freedom fighters is captured by Robotnik and used as bait to lure Sonic into a trap. In this case, the victim is Bunnie, and the story supposedly explains how she came to be partially roboticized. This account is at odds with the explanation in the comics. In addition, both Uncle Chuck and Muttski in this book has been successfully deroboticized, which conflicts with "Sonic Conversion" and, in fact, the rest of the second season. _Sonic the Hedgehog: Fortress of Fear_ synopsis: COMING SOON OVERSEAS BOOKS: Martin Adams, _Sonic the Hedgehog and the Silicon Warriors_ (c)1993; _Sonic the Hedgehog in Castle Robotnik_ (c)1994; _Sonic the Hedgehog in the Fourth Dimension_ (c)1993; _Sonic the Hedgehog in Robotnik's Laboratory_ (c)1993: London: Virgin. Attention WEB-Slingers: The following individuals have set up Sonic the Hedgehog home pages on the World Wide Web. You can access them at: David Pistone http://www.primenet.com/~rotor Stories and fanart Shawn Wolski http://wwwvms.utexas.edu/~n5una/index.html Fanart and this FAQ file; also access to Ratman's Sonic Web Page. From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Thu Apr 13 22:29:19 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA27035 for sonic-ll; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:29:18 -0400 Received: from ns.ge.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA27030 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:29:01 -0400 Received: from engr.erie.ge.com ([3.14.4.3]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA11950 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:30:37 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:30:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Ron Bauerle To: sonic@sard.mv.net CC: aa2043@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu, bradclar@outb.wimsey.bc.ca, james.walt@mercopus.com, pearse@rpi.edu, quozl@netcom.com, ray.rooney@dscmail.com, BAUERLE@engr.erie.ge.com Message-Id: <950413223030.4338@engr.erie.ge.com> Subject: Re: Sonic FAQ File Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) >WHAT'S NEW?: >[Note: There WILL be spoilers. You have been warned. DJD] >#23 Jun 1995 >"Vol-ANT-teer" >Surprising last panel gives the impression that Antoine >isn't entirely clueless. Indeed; so much for that fan-fic of Rotor and Bunnie :^) >"Deadliest of the Species, Part III" >(Summary: James Firmiss) > Sally, Hamlin and Dylan are fighting their way into >Robotropolis with paint guns and grenades (blinding SWATbots). Somehow I thought this was a bit pacifist - where was the heavy artillery to blow them apart? I hope the Emulation Clause isn't sneaking itself into the comics... >Dylan believes that attacking at half strength isn't wise, Since all the other trainees' names matched their species (except Geoffrey and Hamlin, but the latter is close enough :^)), what the heck is Dylan supposed to be? >head for the vehicle maintenance area and grab saucer-shaped air >cars (from Hanger 18! X-P ) If this is an in-joke, I didn't get it... >Sally tries to convince Geoffrey to come to Knothole but he declines in >order to rejoin the Rebel Underground. He does engage Sally in some >serious lip-locking before they part. Quoting her diary: "as for my heart, where once there was one, now there are two" - yow! RDB From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Thu Apr 13 22:52:54 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA27149 for sonic-ll; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:52:44 -0400 Received: from virginia.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA27144 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:52:42 -0400 Received: from watt.seas.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa18329; 13 Apr 95 22:54 EDT Received: (from bjw4u@localhost) by watt.seas.Virginia.EDU (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA83609 for sonic@sard.mv.net; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:54:18 -0400 From: Bryan Wang Message-Id: <199504140254.WAA83609@watt.seas.Virginia.EDU> Subject: Re: Sonic FAQ File To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Thu, 13 Apr 95 22:54:18 EDT In-Reply-To: <950413223030.4338@engr.erie.ge.com>; from "Ron Bauerle" at Apr 13, 95 10:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3.1 PL11] Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net You're on this, too? I just joined. Heh. :) Bry From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 14 00:07:57 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA27420 for sonic-ll; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 00:07:39 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA27413; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 00:07:38 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 00:07:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic FAQ File In-Reply-To: <199504140254.WAA83609@watt.seas.Virginia.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Thu, 13 Apr 1995, Bryan Wang wrote: > You're on this, too? I just joined. Heh. :) > > Bry we all are! You just mailed that to entire mailing list by the way. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work: paul@mv.mv.com | Play: rat@rat.mv.com WWW : http://www.mv.com/users/rat | FTP : ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat AOL : PaulHurley | CIS : 75014,77 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 14 00:30:39 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA27538 for sonic-ll; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 00:30:37 -0400 Received: from virginia.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA27533 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 00:30:36 -0400 Received: from watt.seas.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa04640; 14 Apr 95 0:32 EDT Received: (from bjw4u@localhost) by watt.seas.Virginia.EDU (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA111329; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 00:32:13 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 00:32:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Bryan Wang To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic FAQ File In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Fri, 14 Apr 1995, Ratman wrote: > On Thu, 13 Apr 1995, Bryan Wang wrote: > > > You're on this, too? I just joined. Heh. :) > > > > Bry > > we all are! > You just mailed that to entire mailing list by the way. i noticed a few minutes ago... boy do I feel stupid. ;) -lamer From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 14 08:48:09 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id IAA28217 for sonic-ll; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 08:47:56 -0400 Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id IAA28212 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 08:47:47 -0400 Received: from edmund (edmund.cs.andrews.edu) by peter.cs.andrews.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA10618; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 08:49:23 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (5.x) id AA23890; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 08:49:21 -0400 Message-Id: <9504141249.AA23890@edmund> Subject: Re: Sonic FAQ File To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 08:49:21 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <950413223030.4338@engr.erie.ge.com> from "Ron Bauerle" at Apr 13, 95 10:30:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Ron: A couple clarifiers: > > > Sally, Hamlin and Dylan are fighting their way into > >Robotropolis with paint guns and grenades (blinding SWATbots). > > Somehow I thought this was a bit pacifist - where was the heavy > artillery to blow them apart? I hope the Emulation Clause isn't sneaking > itself into the comics... > I don't mind all that much. This has always struck me as a war of harassment anyway as opposed to one of serious confrontation. Didn't seem all that out of place when I first encountered it in "Sally's Crusade" from In Your Face #1. > > Since all the other trainees' names matched their species (except Geoffrey > and Hamlin, but the latter is close enough :^)), what the heck is Dylan > supposed to be? > Jim Firmiss identifies Dylan as a "[porcupine?]" so even he hedged his bets. With the invocation of Dylan and Arlo, I thought the writers were going for a 1960's rock stars sort of thing. Remember, the writing team of Kanterovich and Penders also named Sally's old teacher Julayla--a synthesis, I believe, of the titles of two rock songs: "Julia" from the Beatles' white album, and Eric Clapton's "Layla." > >head for the vehicle maintenance area and grab saucer-shaped air > >cars (from Hanger 18! X-P ) > > If this is an in-joke, I didn't get it... > In a sense, you should be glad. "Hanger 18" is a legendary 1980 pseudo-documentary which one source called the cinematic equivalent of yellow journalism. It's supposedly about the "fact" that the US Air Force has been keeping a crashed UFO under wraps in the aforementioned hanger while officially denying the existence of UFOs. Produced by Sunn Classics (which specialized in the genre with films such as "In Search of Noah's Ark"), it's a crackpot "What is the secret that our government is keeping from us?" sort of thing. Years before "The X-Files" and light years behind in terms of competence. If your local video store has a copy, it might be good for a hoot. > >Sally tries to convince Geoffrey to come to Knothole but he declines in > >order to rejoin the Rebel Underground. He does engage Sally in some > >serious lip-locking before they part. > > Quoting her diary: "as for my heart, where once there was one, now there > are two" - yow! > First Bunnie and Antoine, now Sally and Geoffrey -- hmmmm. They'd better start creating some new female players before the existing ones get worn out! ;-) We now return you to your regularly scheduled rodent. ================================================================ || ___------__ || || |\__-- /\ _- || Daniel J. Drazen || | / __ _ || drazen@andrews.edu || //\ / \ /__ || || | o| 0|__ --_ || Custodian of one of the Sonic || \\____-- __ \ ___ - || the Hedgehog FAQ Files || (@@ __/ / /_ || || -_____--- --_ || ASCII Sonic by Han J. Lee ================================================================ From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 14 18:21:17 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id SAA02265 for sonic-ll; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 18:21:08 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id SAA02260 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 18:21:06 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) id SAA01301; Fri, 14 Apr 1995 18:16:58 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 18:16:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2" To: Post Sonic Subject: New images at ftp site Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net There are several new images at the ftp site. I uploaded one file which, at this time, is still pending approval. Unless changed, the filename is knuckles_drawing_www.gif. This file was clipped out of a Web page (it was not a link) I found; this was the only Sonic-related item on that page. As a reminder, the ftp site is ftp.mv.com and the directory to cd to is /pub/users/rat/sonic. |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| | A! JW2 WAR++ PI~ BR+i SL++++i SK+++ RI++^ RU+ GDF BU+ MI- MM KK-- | | P++ D $++ E59 Ee5 Eee35 TRita Ay68 M | | "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog | |-- A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! ------------------------------| From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 15 18:50:21 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id SAA08173 for sonic-ll; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:49:54 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id SAA08168 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:49:52 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) id SAA02878; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:45:58 -0400 Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:45:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2" To: Post Sonic Subject: Sonic Merchandise List v1.1 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net SONIC THE HEDGEHOG MERCHANDISE LIST v1.1 (15 April 1995) Compiled by Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) Send submissions and corrections to acme@use.usit.net. All information on Sega products was cut and pasted from a session log on CompuServe. Some information was cut and pasted from Sonic mailing list postings and from personal e-mail. Contributors: Alessandro Sanasi, Dan Drazen, Chris Baird, David M. Pistone, Dan Ramos, Fred Sloniker, Robin Hood (Kris Kelley) GAMES ===== 1. Sonic the Hedgehog 3 LCD Game from Tiger Electronics. 2. Sonic the Hedgehog LCD Wrist Game from Tiger Electronics. This was offered in conjunction with some of the video cassettes. You would return proofs of purchase and some cash and then get the game. The offer has already expired. Is this game also sold in stores? The packaging makes it appear that it is. 3. AMAZING SONIC THE HEDGEHOG POCKET ARCADE from Sega Sonic and Robotnik are at it again! The diaboloicol Dr. Robotnik has created a robot factory and it's up to Sonic to stop the mass production of metal mutants! Sonic works his way through the maze-like rooms in an effort to find and remove the Emeralds - the factory's only power source. Team up with Sonic through 12 levels of fast and furious action as he tries to put Robotnik out of business - for good! 4. GAME GEAR SONIC 2 SYSTEM from Sega 5. GENESIS SONIC 2 SYSTEM from Sega 6. SONIC CD from Sega In his first CD adventure, Sonic goes head to head with The Metal Sonic, Dr. Robotnik's head with The Metal Sonic, Dr. Robotnik's evil Hedgehog creation! Sonic discovers Robotnik wants all of the Time Stones from The Little Planet so he can bend time and rule the world! Can you help Sonic get them first? The CD contains 34 audio selections which can be played on a regular CD player. 7. SONIC CHAOS FOR GAME GEAR from Sega Here he comes, straight from his high-speed Sonic 2 adventure! Headstrong Sonic The Hedgehog and his feisty friend Tails blast into hyperspeed to save the Chaos Emeralds. If evil Dr. Robotnik snatches the Emeralds first, he'll make a Super Bomb! Could this be the end? 8. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 LCD Game from Tiger Electronics. TOYS (NON-GAME) =============== 1. Sonic plush toy. It's of Sonic, about 12". From Caltoy. 2. Tails plush toy. It's of Tails, also about 12". From Caltoy. 3-6: McDonald's toys, 1st promotion 3) SONIC: The Sonic toy had Sonic on a fireball and you could launch him off from it. 4) TAILS: The Tails toy was a simple handheld launcher with a flat picture of Tails on a rotary (though four-tailed) tail shaped helicopter deal. :) 5) KNUCKLES: The Knuckles toy was a whirlwind toy you pushed/pulled along a tabletop and watched Knuckles spin as you moved it. 6) Robotnik: The BUTTnik toy looked exactly like the weekday syndicated version of ol' BUTTnik on his hover thingy. When it moved, it would bump along walls and move all over the place bumping into walls. 7. McDonald's toy, 2nd promotion. ONE of twelve different toys McD's had, but there was only ONE of those twelve related to Sonic. The toy looks exactly like a purple/pinkish television with a dark purple back end to it. On top of the television is a black NEW Sega Genesis console with a 3-button controller. FOOD ==== 0. I've seen a commercial for Honey Nut Cheerios featuring Sonic and its bee mascot. Watch the General Mills section of your grocer's cereal aisle in case there is a Sonic cereal in the future. 1. _Fanta_ can from England with Sonic on it and the text 'Orange Zone - Sonic cool can - the drink with attitude'. Fanta is made by Coca-Cola. 2. Fruit Roll-Ups by Betty Crocker (General Mills). APPAREL ======= 1. Boys' briefs from Fruit of the Loom. 2. SLEEVELESS SONIC AND KNUCKLES DENIM JACKET from Sega 3. SONIC AND KNUCKLES 2ND TO NONE T-SHIRT from Sega 4. SONIC AND KNUCKLES LOW-CROWN CAP from Sega 5. SONIC AND KNUCKLES MOVING DISC WATCH from Sega 6. SONIC THE HEDGEHOG "RELAXED" CAP from Sega 7-12: T-Shirts (Wow, an entire rack devoted to Sonic :) All to fit sizes M to L, full colour, and made of cotton. 7) Front: Large portrait of Sonic doing that "standard" pointing pose, with the rest of the black cotton shirt covered (all over) in a dark yellow collage of scenes from the ?original video game. Back: cheesy rear view of same. Size M; Mnf. by "Top Heavy". 8) A black cotton T-Shirt -- small picture of Sonic "in action" over the pocket area w/ "Sonic" banner underneath. Mnf. Acme. [Btw, this and the rest of the shirts are from Acme's "SEGA Mega Wear" line.] 9) Black cotton shirt with warm yellow and orange picture of a combat ?troll poking his head out from a tank on the front. Large banner with "Pretend its a Game" in faux-bitmap text on back. [Prolly not Hedgehog related, but mnf. by Acme..] 10) Black cotton shirt with several faux-bitmapped Sonics to show him running about (the final and largest pic with his arms folded) with the banner "Think Fast". By ?????. 11) Black or white cotton shirt with the canonical "Sonic 2" portrait (with Tails) and S2 banner. By ?????. 12) Black cotton shirt with a "television's eye view" of Sonic frantically playing with a game controller. Exaggerated comic-eqsue line work by "Brad". By ?????. 13. Sonic sneakers by ?????. Mentioned in Sonic-Grams (in the Archie comics) and existence confirmed in a K-Mart ad. CARDS AND COLLECTIBLES ====================== 1. Valentine's Day cards. By ???????? 2. Collector cards from Topps (sold in 1993). 33 sticker cards, 33 game tips cards and 6 (very rare) prism cards. 3. Official SEGA sticker album from Panini. 228 stickers showing scenes from the games and the weekday Sonic cartoon. Available at least in England and Germany. PUBLICATIONS ============ 1. SONIC STRATEGY GUIDE from Sega 2. "Sonic the Hedgehog" comic, issued monthly plus occasional special editions. From Archie Comics. 3. "Sonic the Comic" comic, issued fortnightly. From Fleetway Publications. 4. "Sonic the Hedgehog", (c) 1993 By Michael Teitelbaum. From Troll Associates. 5. "Sonic the Hedgehog: Robotnik's Revenge", (c) 1994. By Michael Teitelbaum. From Troll Associates. 6. "Sonic the Hedgehog: Fortress of Fear, (c) 1994. By Michael Teitelbaum. From Troll Associates. 7. "Sonic the Hedgehog and the Silicon Warriors", (c) 1993. By Martin Adams. Published by Virgin, London 8. "Sonic the Hedgehog in the Fourth Dimension", (c) 1993. By Martin Adams. Published by Virgin, London 9. "Sonic the Hedgehog in Robotnik's Laboratory", (c) 1993. By Martin Adams. Published by Virgin, London 10. "Sonic the Hedgehog in Castle Robotnik", (c) 1994. By Martin Adams. Published by Virgin, London VIDEO AND AUDIO =============== 1. (S) Super Sonic (Buena Vista 2850) Episodes: "Super Sonic", "Sonic and Sally" 2. (S) Hooked On Sonics (Buena Vista 2849) Episodes: "Hooked On Sonics", "Warp Sonic" 3. (S) Sonic Racer (Buena Vista 2851) Episodes: "Sonic Racer", "Sonic Boom" 4. (A) Grounder the Genius (Buena Vista 2380) Episodes: "Grounder The Genius", "Black Headed Eagle" 5. (A) Road Hog (Buena Vista 2381) Episodes: "Road Hog", "Tails In Charge" 6. (A) Robotnik Express (Buena Vista 2382) Episodes: "Robotnik Express", "Tails' New Home" 7. (A) Slowww Going (Buena Vista 2383) Episodes: "Slowww Going", "Over the Hill" 8. (A) Sonic's Song (Buena Vista 2379) Episodes: "Sonic's Song", "Best Hedgehog" 9. (A) Super Special Sonic Search Squad (Buena Vista 2385) Episodes: "Sonic Underground", "Lovesick Sonic" 10. Audio CD "Sonic Boom" All video listings are VHS cassettes. All tapes marked (A) are the "Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog" weekday series, and those marked (S) are part of the Saturday morning series. OTHER STUFF =========== 1. Drink bottles (of the attach-to-bicycle-frame persuasion) -- robust looking plastic moulding printed with a STH banner and two pictures of Sonic-- one a typical running pose, the other of him reclining in a sun chair wearing dark glasses. Mnf by ??? Made in Australia. 2. Bike helmets -- made from expanded polystyrene and a thin plastic shell covered with multiple pictures of Sonic lifting weights. Available in sizes SM/M and with a black or white background. Mnf. by "Headstart". UNCONFIRMED (or, do these things actually exist?) ================================================= 1. Someone posted to the mailing list that DIC was offering Sonic cels. SUPPLIERS ========= Acme /* Not the same Acme you see in WB cartoons (g) */ Archie Comics 325 Fayette Ave. Mamaroneck, NY 10543 Buena Vista Home Video Burbank, CA 91521 Caltoy, a division of C&H Toy of America Inc. La Palma, CA Coca-Cola Co. One Coca-Cola Plaza N.W. Atlanta, GA 30313 Fleetway Editions Ltd. 25/31 Tavistock Place London WC1H 9SU Tel. 071 344-6400 Fruit of the Loom 6300 Sears Tower Chicago, IL 60606 General Mills One General Mills Blvd. Minneapolis, MN 55426 Headstart McDonald's Corp. McDonald's Plaza Oak Brook, IL 60521 Panini -- PANINI PUBLISHING LTD Tunbridge Wells 2TN2 5TT Distribution in Germany: ASV Vertriebs GmbH Suederstrasse 77 20097 Hamburg Distribution in Austria: Pressegrossvertrieb Salzburg Niederalm 300 5081 Salzburg Sega of America 255 Shoreline Dr. Redwood City, CA 94065 SONIC BACK ISSUE ZONE /* Back issues of "Sonic the Comic" */ Aim Ltd. PO Box 10 Sunderland, SR4 6SN United Kingdom Tiger Electronics Inc. 980 Woodlands Parkway Vernon Hills, IL 60061 Top Heavy Sydney, Australia THE TOPPS COMPANY INC. Duryea, PA 18642 Troll Associates Mahwah, NJ Virgin, London Whole Toon Catalog /* cartoon video tape retailer */ P.O. Box 369 Issaquah, WA 98027 |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| | A! JW2 WAR++ PI~ BR+i SL++++i SK+++ RI++^ RU+ GDF BU+ MI- MM KK-- | | P++ D $++ E59 Ee5 Eee35 TRita Ay68 M | | "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog | |-- A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! ------------------------------| From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 15 22:24:30 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA08875 for sonic-ll; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 22:24:27 -0400 Received: from ns.ge.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA08870 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 22:24:24 -0400 Received: from engr.erie.ge.com ([3.14.4.3]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA01510 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 22:26:27 -0400 Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 22:26:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Ron Bauerle To: sonic@sard.mv.net CC: aa2043@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu, bradclar@outb.wimsey.bc.ca, james.walt@mercopus.com, pearse@rpi.edu, quozl@netcom.com, ray.rooney@dscmail.com, BAUERLE@engr.erie.ge.com Message-Id: <950415222619.6fe@engr.erie.ge.com> Subject: Re: An Author's Thanks Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) >Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 16:16:30 -0500 (EST) >To all those who have commented on Bloodlines: >[Note: if you haven't read the story yet, we're talking major spoilers >coming up here] Courtesy form-feed: > In all honesty, I had no idea that Bunnie and Sandy's relationship > would take the turn it did when I started writing. I had no > intention of outing Bunnie or anyone else. I guess my basic reaction is that it's out of character (show reference: after Uncle Chuck's temporarily deroboticized, she tells Sally maybe she should "take another look at that man...") _and_ it wasn't really necessary to the story line (IMVNSHO). > Obviously I wrote this before reading "The Power of Love," and > before Netscape was installed on my machine so I could discover > how large a part Bunnie plays in the Mature [or should that be > "IMmature"?] Fan Art section of Rotor's homepage. I don't want to know... >I was sort of afraid that some of her drooling fanboys would take umbrage. Maybe I deserve that, although Babs Bunny will still be #1 :^) Actually, I wasn't all that offended, probably because I've seen worse on alt.tv.tiny-toon (speaking as a survivor of the great TTBS flamewar...), plus I didn't get as attached to Bunnie as I did Babs, plus it had been a long day between Good Friday services and pretty much deciding I was fed up with my job enough to see if there are any better ones out there (anybody need a digital/analog circuit designer? :^)), so I was more or less too tired to get upset when I finally got around to reading it last night :^) > Hope nobody got too bummed by my allowing Queen Alicia to die. Well, it was pretty much expected, but it was still quite sad - especially Sally's reaction... I'll confess I got a bit teary-eyed at it, which bothered me because it was yet another reminder that I am moved more by the suffering of imaginary characters than I am my fellow man. >Thanks for putting up with my ramblings. And mine :^) I meant none of the above criticism personally, nor the following: I guess I'm a bit disappointed that with the exception of "The Power of Love", all of the fan-fic so far has more or less been on the grim side (especially the latest stuff with Packbell). While I admit I do like the dark theme of the Sat. AM show itself, at least most of the episodes have enough hope in them that this tempers things a bit. I don't seem to see this in the fan-fic. But far be it from me to tell people what to write - if I decide that it's not worth discussing the comics (that and the fan-fic are about all that's left to talk about), I can always unsubscribe... PS to my non-list CCers: if you want a copy of the story, e-mail me - I still have it for now. I haven't decided how long or if I'll keep it though... BTW, Happy Easter everybody! I pray that those of you who don't know Christ as your personal Savior will take a moment to consider His claims and what He has to offer; also, if you were to die tonight and stand before God and He asks you "Why should I let you into My heaven?", what answer would you give Him? Sermon mode OFF, RDB From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 15 23:03:27 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id XAA08999 for sonic-ll; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 23:03:24 -0400 Received: from spot.Colorado.EDU by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id XAA08994 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 23:03:22 -0400 Received: from Freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU (freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU [140.226.1.8]) by spot.Colorado.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) with ESMTP id VAA25855 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 21:05:25 -0600 Received: (from av643@localhost) by Freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU (8.6.8/8.6.6) id VAA03914; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 21:05:19 -0600 Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 21:05:19 -0600 Message-Id: <199504160305.VAA03914@Freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU> From: av643@Freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU (Dan Ramos) To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: An Author's Thanks Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net HAPPY EASTER EVERYBODY!!!!! --------------------------- Laters!! From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sun Apr 16 01:20:28 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id BAA10868 for sonic-ll; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 01:20:11 -0400 Received: from netcom17.netcom.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id BAA10863 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 01:20:08 -0400 Received: by netcom17.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id WAA29583; Sat, 15 Apr 1995 22:16:10 -0700 From: quozl@netcom.com (D.M. "Quozl" Falk) Message-Id: <199504160516.WAA29583@netcom17.netcom.com> Subject: Re: An Author's Thanks To: BAUERLE@engr.erie.ge.com (Ron Bauerle) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 22:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sonic@sard.mv.net, aa2043@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu, bradclar@outb.wimsey.bc.ca, james.walt@mercopus.com, pearse@rpi.edu, quozl@netcom.com, ray.rooney@dscmail.com, BAUERLE@engr.erie.ge.com In-Reply-To: <950415222619.6fe@engr.erie.ge.com> from "Ron Bauerle" at Apr 15, 95 10:26:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 5005 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net And so Ron said...... > >From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) > >Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 16:16:30 -0500 (EST) > > >To all those who have commented on Bloodlines: > > >[Note: if you haven't read the story yet, we're talking major spoilers > >coming up here] > > Courtesy form-feed: > > > In all honesty, I had no idea that Bunnie and Sandy's relationship > > would take the turn it did when I started writing. I had no > > intention of outing Bunnie or anyone else. > > I guess my basic reaction is that it's out of character (show reference: > after Uncle Chuck's temporarily deroboticized, she tells Sally maybe she > should "take another look at that man...") _and_ it wasn't really necessary > to the story line (IMVNSHO). To be perfectly honest, I'd have to agree to both parts of the above. If anything, Bunnie has a certain affinity for Sonic in the cartoons, which she carefully controls since her best friend is Sally.... > > Obviously I wrote this before reading "The Power of Love," and > > before Netscape was installed on my machine so I could discover > > how large a part Bunnie plays in the Mature [or should that be > > "IMmature"?] Fan Art section of Rotor's homepage. I'll pretend I didn't hear that. > I don't want to know... Only one of the GIFs I'd say you might be offended by, Ron.... (contract.gif) > >I was sort of afraid that some of her drooling fanboys would take umbrage. I was bothered, if only that she was taken out of character. There was no basis for this in the story up to that point (too sudden)... > Maybe I deserve that, although Babs Bunny will still be #1 :^) Yes, Babs is still a far better draw for me, but Bunnie is not very low on the list... :) > Actually, I wasn't all that offended, probably because I've seen worse on > alt.tv.tiny-toon (speaking as a survivor of the great TTBS flamewar...), At least we *tried* keeping the characters in character... (I know what we TTBSers did was not to your taste. No apologies are needed for that on our part, but we do respect your feelings. That's why .fandom was created. Apologies, however, if *that* sounds terse- I'm really not the best communicator that I could be...) > plus I didn't get as attached to Bunnie as I did Babs, plus it had been a > long day between Good Friday services and pretty much deciding I was fed up > with my job enough to see if there are any better ones out there (anybody > need a digital/analog circuit designer? :^)), so I was more or less too > tired to get upset when I finally got around to reading it last night :^) Can't help you with your job-seeking, although I'm trying to work on an NTSC-PAL video conversion project with Jono Nicholson in the UK... > > Hope nobody got too bummed by my allowing Queen Alicia to die. > > Well, it was pretty much expected, but it was still quite sad - especially > Sally's reaction... I'll confess I got a bit teary-eyed at it, which > bothered me because it was yet another reminder that I am moved more by the > suffering of imaginary characters than I am my fellow man. That means the story's working... :) Seriously, I'll agree with Ron that that's what was to be expected. No, wasn't bothered by that at all... > >Thanks for putting up with my ramblings. > > And mine :^) I meant none of the above criticism personally, nor the > following: I guess I'm a bit disappointed that with the exception of > "The Power of Love", all of the fan-fic so far has more or less been on the > grim side (especially the latest stuff with Packbell). While I admit I do > like the dark theme of the Sat. AM show itself, at least most of the > episodes have enough hope in them that this tempers things a bit. I don't > seem to see this in the fan-fic. But far be it from me to tell people what > to write - if I decide that it's not worth discussing the comics (that and > the fan-fic are about all that's left to talk about), I can always > unsubscribe... I can really agree with the above: the series had HOPE, and this does seem to be lacking in the current crop of stories, even though the stories themselves are rather well-written. To those writing: please try to work on the "human element", OK? I want to feel more for the *characters*, rather than seeing just what the latest plot to foil Robotnik is... Also, it's going to be just as much an adventure to rebuild Mobius and regain control of the throne.... > PS to my non-list CCers: if you want a copy of the story, e-mail me - > I still have it for now. I haven't decided how long or if I'll keep it > though... Ron's been bouncing them my way, BTW... Rotor's web site already has the stories.... (Hey, Rotor! The site hasn't changed much in the last month, except when you added Bloodlines... I know one story has been posted to a.f.s-h, but I didn't save it, knowing it would be on the site- I was wrong...) Enjoy Nature's rejuvination, everybody! :) ....Quozl! From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 17 23:19:33 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id XAA22993 for sonic-ll; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 23:18:54 -0400 Received: from holodeck.cc.vt.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id XAA22988 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 23:18:45 -0400 Message-Id: <199504180318.XAA22988@sard.mv.net> Received: from jpegnato.async.vt.edu by holodeck.cc.vt.edu with SMTP (8.6.10/16.2) id XAA15093; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 23:21:14 -0400 X-Sender: jpegnato@mail.vt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 23:21:46 +0600 To: sonic@sard.mv.net From: jpegnato@vt.edu (Jeffrey Pegnato) Subject: all ye non-believers, I'm back... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Seeing as how I'm severely bored & there isn't much to call discussion going on here, I thought i might share with you an interresting little message I recieved a few minutes ago... "...Yes. Sally is definalty a fox, she's just not old enough to have a full tail yet. Remember, they are only teenagers in the comic book (all but Tails and Bunny, who are younger and older respecivly)" Ha Ha Ha Ha...I'm not the only believer in Sally's vixendom! There are others...and were multiplying!...Ha Ha Ha Ground Squirell... how ridiculous! C'mon, there can't be more than 5 or 6 dozen on this list, hardly a fair fight against me...Ha Ha Ha! (talk about opening an old can-o-worms, eh?) Member: Sally is a vixen fan club...all opposition will be crushed. Foxes forever! ***"When you are courting a nice girl an hour seems like a second. When you sit on a red-hot cinder a second seems like an hour. That's relativity."*** - Albert Einstein Working hard to destroy stupidity everywhere... Jeffrey Pegnato jpegnato@vt.edu From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 18 01:05:45 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id BAA23382 for sonic-ll; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 01:05:37 -0400 Received: from unix.infoserve.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id BAA23377 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 01:05:34 -0400 Received: from localhost (bradc@localhost) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) id WAA14585; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 22:11:05 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 22:11:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Clark Subject: Re: all ye non-believers, I'm back... To: sonic@sard.mv.net cc: sonic@sard.mv.net In-Reply-To: <199504180318.XAA22988@sard.mv.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Mon, 17 Apr 1995, Jeffrey Pegnato wrote: > Seeing as how I'm severely bored & there isn't much to call > discussion going on here, I thought i might share with you > an interresting little message I recieved a few minutes ago... > > "...Yes. Sally is definalty a fox, she's just not old > enough to have a full tail yet. Remember, they are only teenagers in the > comic book (all but Tails and Bunny, who are younger and older respecivly)" < SNIP > > Ground Squirell... how ridiculous! Just hope your not trying to start a flame war here =) Just in case you didn't notice though, in one of the comics, actually two of them...it says in the 'Sonic-grams' that Sally is a squirell. I tend to side with this, because I'm sure the people drawing/working on the comic KNOW what they are drawing. Secondly, isn't the name Sally 'ACORN' just a bit weird for a fox? Also, Tails is much younger than Sally, and his tails are the right size ;) Just my opinion/comments on the matter. From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 18 12:15:22 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA25221 for sonic-ll; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 12:14:57 -0400 Received: from sonic.segaoa.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA25216 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 12:14:49 -0400 Received: from blackhole.segaoa.com by sonic.segaoa.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA17070; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 09:17:50 +0800 Received: by blackhole.segaoa.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F93E5EA@blackhole.segaoa.com>; Tue, 18 Apr 95 09:16:42 PDT From: "Wallis, Mike" To: Sonic mailing list Subject: RE: all ye non-believers, I'm back... Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 09:16:00 PDT Message-Id: <2F93E5EA@blackhole.segaoa.com> Encoding: 29 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 content-length: 1096 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >>>Seeing as how I'm severely bored & there isn't much to call discussion going on here, I thought i might share with you an interresting little message I recieved a few minutes ago... "...Yes. Sally is definalty a fox, she's just not old enough to have a full tail yet. Remember, they are only teenagers in the comic book (all but Tails and Bunny, who are younger and older respecivly)"<<< {grin} Well... Seeing as how I *work* for Sega and how I'm working *on* a new Sonic title, I guess I would know. :) Sally is, in no way, a vixen. (Sure, she may be a fox to some, but not a vixen... Anyone understand that?) :-P >Ha Ha Ha Ha...I'm not the only believer in Sally's vixendom! There are >others...and were multiplying!...Ha Ha Ha You must be stopped. You and your growing horde. >Member: Sally is a vixen fan club...all opposition will be crushed. >Foxes forever! I'll agree with the "Foxes forever" part, but not that Sally is a vixen. I mean, the one TRUE vixen and certainly foxy female is Disney's Maid Marian. She's one that'll get your blood boiling. :> -Mike From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 18 14:16:38 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA26115 for sonic-ll; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:16:14 -0400 Received: from unix.infoserve.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA26109 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:16:11 -0400 Received: from localhost (bradc@localhost) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA16174; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:22:16 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:22:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Clark Subject: RE: all ye non-believers, I'm back... To: sonic@sard.mv.net cc: Sonic mailing list In-Reply-To: <2F93E5EA@blackhole.segaoa.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Tue, 18 Apr 1995, Wallis, Mike wrote: > {grin} Well... Seeing as how I *work* for Sega and how I'm working *on* a > new Sonic title, I guess I would know. :) Sally is, in no way, a vixen. > (Sure, she may be a fox to some, but not a vixen... Anyone understand > that?) :-P Hey Mike, maybe you can clear this one up for me...I'm still a little confused as to what Antoine is supposed to be. People have been saying he is a fox too, but I find his tail to be just a bit on the short side in the comics for him to be a fox. He looks, (and acts), more like a coyote to me. Just to add to it, King Acorn definately does appear to be a fox, although it's never actually been said that he is. Could this just be another 'glich' in the story somewhere? From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 18 15:28:20 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id PAA27039 for sonic-ll; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 15:28:03 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id PAA27034 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 15:28:01 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) id PAA24436; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 15:24:28 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 15:24:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2" To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: RE: all ye non-believers, I'm back... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Tue, 18 Apr 1995, Brad Clark wrote: > confused as to what Antoine is supposed to be. People have been saying > he is a fox too, but I find his tail to be just a bit on the short side > in the comics for him to be a fox. He looks, (and acts), more like a One of the comics said Antoine gave his Tail to Tails so that Tails would have two tails. I'd say that otherwise he looks like a fox, and more so than Sally does. |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| | A! JW2 WAR++ PI~ BR+i SL++++i SK+++ RI++^ RU+ GDF BU+ MI- MM KK-- | | P++ D $++ E59 Ee5 Eee35 TRita Ay68 M | | "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog | |-- A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! ------------------------------| From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 18 15:59:20 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id PAA27336 for sonic-ll; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 15:57:54 -0400 Received: from mailhost.primenet.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id PAA27331 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 15:57:52 -0400 Received: from usr4.primenet.com (usr4.primenet.com [198.68.32.14]) by mailhost.primenet.com (8.6.11/wjp-h2.0) with ESMTP id NAA08658 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 13:00:23 -0700 Received: (rotor@localhost) by usr4.primenet.com (8.6.11/wjp-c2.0) id MAA19431; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 12:50:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 12:50:02 -0700 (MST) From: Bookshire Draftwood To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: New Pics Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Greetings! I just got finished posting those two pictures of Princess Sally that were posted to a.b.p.e.c. the other day to my WWW page so now they are available for download. Also, for you "alternative" thinkers out there, my cc.html page is now available. It is not available from my normal homepage so, to access it, simply place '/cc.html' at the end of my WWW address. The second part of "The Experiment" is coming slowly, but, for those of you who have been asking, it should be done in about a week or two. Well, that's all I have to say for now. Bye! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "What do you get when you cross a lawyer with a godfather?" "You get an offer you can't understand." --David Pistone's distinguished collection of dumb lawyer jokes David M. Pistone -- rotor@primenet.com __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / http://www.primenet.com/~rotor / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ / ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 18 21:42:46 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id VAA04097 for sonic-ll; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 21:42:38 -0400 Received: from sonic.segaoa.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id VAA04092 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 21:42:34 -0400 Received: from blackhole.segaoa.com by sonic.segaoa.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA19790; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:45:45 +0800 Received: by blackhole.segaoa.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F946B04@blackhole.segaoa.com>; Tue, 18 Apr 95 18:44:36 PDT From: "Wallis, Mike" To: Sonic mailing list Subject: RE: all ye non-believers, I'm back... Date: Tue, 18 Apr 95 18:44:00 PDT Message-Id: <2F946B04@blackhole.segaoa.com> Encoding: 23 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 content-length: 1118 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >Hey Mike, maybe you can clear this one up for me...I'm still a little >confused as to what Antoine is supposed to be. People have been saying >he is a fox too, but I find his tail to be just a bit on the short side >in the comics for him to be a fox. He looks, (and acts), more like a >coyote to me. Just to add to it, King Acorn definately does appear to be >a fox, although it's never actually been said that he is. Could this >just be another 'glich' in the story somewhere? Unfortunately, I can't clear this up for you. Antoine, I believe, is a character created by either DiC or Archie, and only approved for use by Sega. Unfortunately again, due to the loose grip that our licensing department has on Sonic-related characters, numerous glitches can be found in the story. Apparently our character group is trying to get a better handle on it due to Sonic's popularity, but I don't know how or when any sort of 'official' documentation will come out regarding the other Freedom Fighters. I currently only have access to character info on Sonic, Tails, Robotnik, Knuckles, and Sally. -Mike From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Wed Apr 19 00:50:01 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA04520 for sonic-ll; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 00:49:43 -0400 Received: from holodeck.cc.vt.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA04515 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 00:49:39 -0400 Message-Id: <199504190449.AAA04515@sard.mv.net> Received: from jpegnato.async.vt.edu by holodeck.cc.vt.edu with SMTP (8.6.10/16.2) id AAA02601; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 00:52:22 -0400 X-Sender: jpegnato@mail.vt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 00:52:52 +0600 To: sonic@sard.mv.net From: jpegnato@vt.edu (Jeffrey Pegnato) Subject: RE: all ye non-believers, I'm back... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >Unfortunately again, due to the loose grip that our licensing department has >on Sonic-related characters, numerous glitches can be found in the story. Ha Ha Ha, "numerous glitches" - that's a nice way to put it. > Apparently our character group is trying to get a better handle on it due >to Sonic's popularity, but I don't know how or when any sort of 'official' >documentation will come out regarding the other Freedom Fighters. I >currently only have access to character info on Sonic, Tails, Robotnik, >Knuckles, and Sally. > -Mike O.K. then: How do you know Sally is NOT a fox for sure? (if you mention the comic, I'll ignore you) (and WHO decides these things?) Why does Tails have 2 tails? What happened to Robotnik at the end of the last season? Is Knuckles really the one behind Snively in the elevator scene? (not that these last 2 quesitons really matter now that the show is cancelled) Why, if her father is a fox, is Sally not? What happened to her mother? (seems to follow last question) Why are there so many inconsistencies between the comic book, T.V. show, and books? Many more questions to follow... BTW, Mike , would it be possible to share your "character info" with the 'net freedom fighters? It might help to limit the stupid questions I keep asking on this mailing list ;-) I think I've set a record! ***"When you are courting a nice girl an hour seems like a second. When you sit on a red-hot cinder a second seems like an hour. That's relativity."*** - Albert Einstein Working hard to destroy stupidity everywhere... Jeffrey Pegnato jpegnato@vt.edu From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Wed Apr 19 08:53:29 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id IAA05345 for sonic-ll; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:53:11 -0400 Received: from freenet.calgary.ab.ca by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id IAA05340 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:53:07 -0400 Received: from srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca by freenet.calgary.ab.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA26444; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 06:49:40 -0600 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 06:49:40 -0600 (MDT) From: Squeamish Ossifrage To: sonic@sard.mv.net Cc: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: RE: all ye non-believers, I'm back... In-Reply-To: <199504190449.AAA04515@sard.mv.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net A recent post prompted me to add my thoughts on the subject... Mike Wallis writes: > I currently only have access to character info on Sonic, Tails, > Robotnik, Knuckles, and Sally. I'm curious about exactly who created Sonic in the first place. Did Sonic appear anywhere before the Sonic 1 game? On Wed, 19 Apr 1995, Jeffrey Pegnato wrote: > How do you know Sally is NOT a fox for sure? (if you mention the > comic, I'll ignore you) (and WHO decides these things?) Comparing Sally with the squirrels in my back yard, there is a striking resemblance, particularly with her face (mouth and nose) and hands. Ok, so she doesn't have beady eyes and a big, fluffy tail, but then again she's a _Mobian_ squirrel, so it's allowed. > Why does Tails have 2 tails? How else is a HFF going to fly? Since he is a "Two-tailed fox, Mobius variety", that's just normal for him. What I'd like to know is how he manages to rotate his tails without getting them wrapped around each other. It's just magical the way he does that. :-) > What happened to Robotnik at the end of the last season? Similar sort of thing as happened at the end of '3 Phases of Eve', I expect. > Why, if her father is a fox, is Sally not? Obviously, Mobian genetics are quite different than ours. Judging by Sally and Sonic's kids in 'The Quest' and 'The Return', a Mobian species is inherited from the parent of the same gender. (Their daughter inherited Sonic's faster-than-lightning trait, so not all characteristics are inherited this way.) That would suggest that Sally's mother is a squirrel too. > Why are there so many inconsistencies between the comic book, T.V. show, > and books? I invented a "windows on Mobius" theory to deal with this. We have many such windows now: each game is one, the SatAM cartoon is one, the Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog cartoon is another, and all of the comics, books, and posters are yet others. The "glass" in these windows acts like lenses, changing the way Mobius is seen through them. Does Sonic have 3, or 4 fingers on his hands? It depends on the window you're looking through. Each artistic group on Team Sonic creates their own window, as does anyone who draws a Freedom Fighter. - William Graham - From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Wed Apr 19 12:05:27 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA06145 for sonic-ll; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 12:05:13 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA06139; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 12:05:10 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 12:05:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: bad news Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Try mailing to Wallis@segaoa.com it says "user unknown". He must be having some mondo-serious way-past uncool mail problems (there, now no one can say this message is off-topic). Any mail you addressed to the list intending for him to read got bounced back, so he definatly did not get it. Good thing the messages in the list are archived, eh? :-) I'm sure he'll announce his return. So please hold your questions. thanks. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work: paul@mv.mv.com | Play: rat@rat.mv.com WWW : http://www.mv.com/users/rat | FTP : ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat AOL : PaulHurley | CIS : 75014,77 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Wed Apr 19 14:13:05 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA07995 for sonic-ll; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:12:58 -0400 Received: from holodeck.cc.vt.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA07990 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:12:55 -0400 Message-Id: <199504191812.OAA07990@sard.mv.net> Received: from jpegnato.async.vt.edu by holodeck.cc.vt.edu with SMTP (8.6.10/16.2) id OAA19911; Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:15:44 -0400 X-Sender: jpegnato@mail.vt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:16:15 +0600 To: sonic@sard.mv.net From: jpegnato@vt.edu (Jeffrey Pegnato) Subject: RE: all ye non-believers, I'm back... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >> How do you know Sally is NOT a fox for sure? (if you mention the >> comic, I'll ignore you) (and WHO decides these things?) > >Comparing Sally with the squirrels in my back yard, there is a striking >resemblance, particularly with her face (mouth and nose) and hands. >Ok, so she doesn't have beady eyes and a big, fluffy tail, but then again >she's a _Mobian_ squirrel, so it's allowed. By this logic, what's to prevent her from being a _Mobian_ fox? (or bear, chipmunk, mouse, dog, etc.....) >> Why does Tails have 2 tails? > >How else is a HFF going to fly? >Since he is a "Two-tailed fox, Mobius variety", that's just normal for him. >What I'd like to know is how he manages to rotate his tails without getting >them wrapped around each other. It's just magical the way he does that. :-) Thanx. That explains nothing... >> What happened to Robotnik at the end of the last season? >Similar sort of thing as happened at the end of '3 Phases of Eve', I expect. Huh? >> Why, if her father is a fox, is Sally not? >Obviously, Mobian genetics are quite different than ours. >Judging by Sally and Sonic's kids in 'The Quest' and 'The Return', >a Mobian species is inherited from the parent of the same gender. >(Their daughter inherited Sonic's faster-than-lightning trait, so >not all characteristics are inherited this way.) >That would suggest that Sally's mother is a squirrel too. or, once again, a bear, mouse, dog, cat, etc.. >> Why are there so many inconsistencies between the comic book, T.V. show, >> and books? >I invented a "windows on Mobius" theory to deal with this. We have many >such windows now: each game is one, the SatAM cartoon is one, the >Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog cartoon is another, and all of the >comics, books, and posters are yet others. The "glass" in these windows >acts like lenses, changing the way Mobius is seen through them. Yep, I like this explanation. That's the same way I look at it - each is a separate story with the same characters >Does Sonic have 3, or 4 fingers on his hands? It depends on the window >you're looking through. Each artistic group on Team Sonic creates their >own window, as does anyone who draws a Freedom Fighter. > I'll just have to get creative in some of my drawings...I might even finnish one before the end of '95! l8er. ***"When you are courting a nice girl an hour seems like a second. When you sit on a red-hot cinder a second seems like an hour. That's relativity."*** - Albert Einstein Working hard to destroy stupidity everywhere... Jeffrey Pegnato jpegnato@vt.edu From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Thu Apr 20 11:54:53 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id LAA12219 for sonic-ll; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:54:08 -0400 Received: from sonic.segaoa.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id LAA12212 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:54:01 -0400 Received: from blackhole.segaoa.com by sonic.segaoa.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA25272; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 08:57:31 +0800 Received: by blackhole.segaoa.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F968425@blackhole.segaoa.com>; Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:56:21 PDT From: "Wallis, Mike" To: Sonic mailing list Subject: I'm back... Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:55:00 PDT Message-Id: <2F968425@blackhole.segaoa.com> Encoding: 11 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 content-length: 266 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Yesterday our internet gateway was down, but it appears to be functioning today. I uploaded (to the Sonic FTP site) a picture of Knuckles that I scanned off a model sheet. The file is called knuckmod.jpg and is around 78k. I also posted it to a.b.p.c -Mike From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 21 12:13:44 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA16426 for sonic-ll; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:13:17 -0400 Received: from sonic.segaoa.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA16421 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:12:58 -0400 Received: from blackhole.segaoa.com by sonic.segaoa.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA29916; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:16:40 +0800 Received: by blackhole.segaoa.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F97DA21@blackhole.segaoa.com>; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:15:29 PDT From: "Wallis, Mike" To: Sonic mailing list Subject: Sonic character info Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:14:00 PDT Message-Id: <2F97DA21@blackhole.segaoa.com> Encoding: 97 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 content-length: 4571 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Hi everyone... I had posted this info around 3 weeks ago on alt.fan.sonic-hedgehog, and was asked if I could send this to the List, so here it is. :) -=-=-=-=- Okay folks. Now for a little lesson on Sonic. :) But first, a bit of legal stuff. This information comes from either one of two sources: 1) "Sonic the Hedgehog Official Stylebook and Character Manual" (c) 1994 SEGA or 2) "Sonic the Hedgehog Bible, August 1991" (c) 1991 SEGA Both used without permission (oops!). Footnotes indicate which book the information came from. Any spelling errors are my own, unless so denoted by "sic". :) Now on with the session. Here's some information about Sonic's biography, abilities, attitude, etc. BIOGRAPHY (book 1) Sonic The Hedgehog --- the fastest, coolest hedgehog anywhere. It's more than just speed - it's his wit, that won't quit. He's all heart, and super smart! Sonic's always racing from one place to the next --- barely stopping to catch his breath. As Sonic developed his incredible speed, his attitude became legendary. This Dude with a 'Tude is irreverent, confident, impatient and constantly bursting at the quills with energy. Above all, he's the bravest big-hearted hedgehog anywhere. Sonic's way cool, power red sneakers blast him around at supersonic speeds without burning through their soles. Our hero's favorite color is --- you guessed it: blue! He loves gumballs and chili dogs, too, but he hates water 'cause he can't swim. Sonic is always there for his friends --- they know they can count on him, especially in times of trouble. It all comes down to loyalty, and important quality that this hedgehog is full of --- among other things. All Sonic really wants is for life to return to the way it was --- before Dr. Robotnik took over, polluted the planet and roboticized everyone. To free his friends from the Dr.'s grasp, Sonic must trash Robotnik and his vile eggomatic machine. Maybe Sonic will go into a Supersonic Spin Attack --- whatever happens, watch out. 'Cause the super blue hedgehog is... UP... OVER --- AND GONE! MENTAL ABILITIES (book 2) Sonic thinks he's perfect, but he's not! Forest-smart, Sonic is of average intelligence. He has to struggle to figure out the solution to a problem or puzzle. usually, he relies on his great charm and physical capabilities to get out of tight spots. Sonic never analyzes a situation, he just plunges in. He's a Hedgehog of Action. ATTITUDE, PERSONALITY (book 2) Carefree and radically cool --- that's what Sonic is all about. Nothing deep. That's not to say Sonic is an airhead! When he's not teasing you or playing a joke on you, he's probably the best friend you could ever hope for. He cares about his forest pals and delights in coming to their rescue. Sonic does not swear, take drugs, harm the environment, or eat anything that one might consider healthy. he does make mistakes --- quite a few of them --- but not without regret. Then there's Sonic's Attitude. When he wants something, he goes for it --- 150%. Sonic does not respond well to authority --- he's juat(sic) too impulsive. He's cocky, independent, self-assured, but never obnoxious or cruel. LIKES, DISLIKES (book 2) Sonic loves any thing or any way to move through life at top speed. His favorite diet? Fast food and candy bars --- what else! Sonic loves burgers, tacos, nachos, fries, anything chocolate, and cola. Sonic doesn't eat or drink diet anything --- he needs the calories! (A note from me: it appears Sonic's chili dog fetish developed AFTER the bible had been printed.) One more clue about Sonic's personality --- he's more than a bit vain about his blue spikes. His spikes are always perfect. In Sonic's world, slobs finish last. But when he does slow down, there's nothing Sonic likes more than exploring new places, playing practical jokes, or playing video games. Patience is not one of Sonic's strong points. When he feels the pace is too slow, he'll cop his trademark "What's the matter with you, dude!" attitude and tap his foot with impatience. OBJECTIVES IN LIFE (book 2) Sonic's objectives in life are to have fun and enjoy the ride! Life is a blast, if you don't stop to think about it --- that sums up Sonic's philosophy. As long as he had his supersonic speed, his sneakers, and his good buddies, Sonic is one cool and happy dude. -=-=-=-=- Hope you enjoyed it! I'll post info on Robotnik and Tails in a few days. -Mike From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 21 12:23:12 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA16490 for sonic-ll; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:23:11 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA16484; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:23:10 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:23:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: anyone notice... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net This just occured to me when I was falling asleep, one foot in reality, and one in unconciousness.... In season one of the show, Sally was looking for her father. And a quote from sally was "my father was here!". And she most certainly was no where near the void. In season two, it was made clear that her father was thrown into the void right after Julian took over. Then it was shown that Sally's dad couldn't leave the void without turning to crystal. Did anyone else notice this? I don't read the comic book, so I don't care about inconsistancies between it and the Sat. AM show. But between the Sat. AM show and the Sat. AM show? There aren't any other than the one I meantioned above that I can think of. Of course I don't ever claim that "what I can think of" is fact. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work: paul@mv.mv.com | Play: rat@rat.mv.com WWW : http://www.mv.com/users/rat | FTP : ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat AOL : PaulHurley | CIS : 75014,77 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 21 12:25:20 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA16515 for sonic-ll; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:25:20 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA16509; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:25:18 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:25:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic character info In-Reply-To: <2F97DA21@blackhole.segaoa.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Fri, 21 Apr 1995, Wallis, Mike wrote: > Hope you enjoyed it! I'll post info on Robotnik and Tails in a few days. > > > -Mike Tails! Tails! Tails! Tails! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work: paul@mv.mv.com | Play: rat@rat.mv.com WWW : http://www.mv.com/users/rat | FTP : ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat AOL : PaulHurley | CIS : 75014,77 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 21 15:40:47 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id PAA19254 for sonic-ll; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:40:29 -0400 Received: from anvil.gatech.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id PAA19249 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:40:25 -0400 Received: from acmex.gatech.edu (acmex.gatech.edu [130.207.165.22]) by anvil.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA24031 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:43:40 -0400 From: gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu (Robin Hood) Received: (gt6005a@localhost) by acmex.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA15049 for sonic@sard.mv.net; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:43:39 -0400 Message-Id: <199504211943.PAA15049@acmex.gatech.edu> Subject: Re: anyone notice... To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:43:38 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "Ratman" at Apr 21, 95 12:23:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1898 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net > > This just occured to me when I was falling asleep, one foot in reality, > and one in unconciousness.... > > In season one of the show, Sally was looking for her father. And a quote from > sally was "my father was here!". And she most certainly was no where near the > void. > > In season two, it was made clear that her father was thrown into the void > right after Julian took over. > Then it was shown that Sally's dad couldn't leave the void without turning to > crystal. > Well, one could just simply add that to the many other inconsistencies between the first and second seasons...but how's this: Remember the scene in "Blast to the Past" where Julian was holding King Acorn prisoner? In fact, this was the scene where the King was thrown into the void. Now, where did this take place? It could have been somewhere in the city, or it could have been Ironlocke. Since Julian and King Acorn were not communicating in person, the King by then could have been taken anywhere by Julian's forces. Ironlocke is, of course, the valid explanation, and since Julian/Dr. Robotnik possesses the technology to open up the Void anywhere he wants to, there you go! Problem solved. next... :-) later---Kris -- *******Robin Hood (Kris Kelley) gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu***************** * fnord-42-froinlaven-cowabunga-the truth is out there-get out-spin dash * * are you pondering what I'm pondering?-welcome to the next level-yars!! * * finish him!-i hope i've shown you how to treat a lady-i'm a character! * ************************************************************************** * "Don't care what people say / Just follow your own way." - Enigma * * "I'm not sure that the world would be ready for 2 of me!" - P. O'Toole * * "Life: Am I taking this too personally?" - me * ************************************************************************** From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 21 18:31:03 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id SAA19859 for sonic-ll; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 18:30:40 -0400 Received: from holodeck.cc.vt.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id SAA19854 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 18:30:37 -0400 Message-Id: <199504212230.SAA19854@sard.mv.net> Received: from jpegnato.async.vt.edu by holodeck.cc.vt.edu with SMTP (8.6.10/16.2) id SAA07430; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 18:33:57 -0400 X-Sender: jpegnato@mail.vt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 18:34:28 +0600 To: sonic@sard.mv.net From: jpegnato@vt.edu (Jeffrey Pegnato) Subject: Re: anyone notice... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >Remember the scene in "Blast to the Past" where Julian was holding King >Acorn prisoner? In fact, this was the scene where the King was thrown >into the void. Now, where did this take place? It could have been >somewhere in the city, or it could have been Ironlocke. Since Julian and >King Acorn were not communicating in person, the King by then could have >been taken anywhere by Julian's forces. >Ironlocke is, of course, the valid explanation, and since Julian/Dr. Robotnik >possesses the technology to open up the Void anywhere he wants to, there >you go! Problem solved. > >next... :-) > >later---Kris Good observation, but if you'll recall that same show, Naugus also went into the void through that same room the King did a year (or so) later... I kind of doubt Naugus would have selected such a place to enter the void...but, to each his own! :-) l8er. ***"When you are courting a nice girl an hour seems like a second. When you sit on a red-hot cinder a second seems like an hour. That's relativity."*** - Albert Einstein Working hard to destroy stupidity everywhere... Jeffrey Pegnato jpegnato@vt.edu From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 22 03:40:37 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id DAA21568 for sonic-ll; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 03:40:26 -0400 Received: from saul1.u.washington.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id DAA21563 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 03:40:22 -0400 Received: by saul1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22043; Sat, 22 Apr 95 00:43:46 -0700 X-Sender: lazuli@saul1.u.washington.edu Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 00:43:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Sloniker To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: RE: all ye non-believers, I'm back... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Wed, 19 Apr 1995, Squeamish Ossifrage wrote: > I'm curious about exactly who created Sonic in the first place. > Did Sonic appear anywhere before the Sonic 1 game? I'm curious as well. Oh, Miiiiike... (:3 > > Why does Tails have 2 tails? > > How else is a HFF going to fly? Pixie dust? (:3 > What I'd like to know is how he manages to rotate his tails without > getting them wrapped around each other. It's just magical the way he > does that. :-) > > What happened to Robotnik at the end of the last season? > > Similar sort of thing as happened at the end of '3 Phases of Eve', I expect. Actually, that scene rather confused me. Why does anyone think Robotnik bit the big one? I mean, Snively saw him getting into an escape pod when everything started going foom, and I don't remember seeing that escape pod crashing or blowing up or anything... ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer lazuli@u.washington.edu Data compression: what you get when you squash an android. From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 22 03:42:49 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id DAA21584 for sonic-ll; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 03:42:48 -0400 Received: from saul1.u.washington.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id DAA21579 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 03:42:46 -0400 Received: by saul1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06300; Sat, 22 Apr 95 00:46:11 -0700 X-Sender: lazuli@saul1.u.washington.edu Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 00:46:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Sloniker To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: RE: all ye non-believers, I'm back... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Sat, 22 Apr 1995, Fred Sloniker wrote: > On Wed, 19 Apr 1995, Squeamish Ossifrage wrote: > > > What I'd like to know is how he manages to rotate his tails without > > getting them wrapped around each other. It's just magical the way he > > does that. :-) What I *meant* to say is: Maybe he's got some sort of rotator cuff built into his butt? (:3 ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer lazuli@u.washington.edu Fred's Fifth Law: "Common sense" isn't. From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 22 04:51:30 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id EAA21715 for sonic-ll; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 04:51:18 -0400 Received: from saul1.u.washington.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id EAA21710 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 04:51:15 -0400 Received: by saul1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24858; Sat, 22 Apr 95 01:54:40 -0700 X-Sender: lazuli@saul1.u.washington.edu Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 01:54:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Sloniker To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic character info In-Reply-To: <2F97DA21@blackhole.segaoa.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Fri, 21 Apr 1995, Wallis, Mike wrote: > Hi everyone... I had posted this info around 3 weeks ago on > alt.fan.sonic-hedgehog, and was asked if I could send this to the List, > so here it is. :) Good thing, too. My a.f.s-h distribution is non-existent; all I get are stupid 'How to Pick up Women' flames. In fact, it was only yesterday that I got my first Sonic-related information there in weeks... Anyone wanna tell me, in private email, if there are ways to improve this situation, other than waiting? > But first, a bit of legal stuff. This information comes from either one of > two sources: > 1) "Sonic the Hedgehog Official Stylebook and Character Manual" (c) 1994 > SEGA > or > 2) "Sonic the Hedgehog Bible, August 1991" (c) 1991 SEGA Any chance of us poor plebes getting our hands on copies of these? I'd gladly pay duplication costs or what have you... [Much way-past-cool info deleted] > Hope you enjoyed it! I'll post info on Robotnik and Tails in a few days. Oooh, I wanna see! I wanna see! Tails is so happy fun, and Mr. R is grossly underestimated... Got anything on Knuckles, pray tell? ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer lazuli@u.washington.edu "Hey! Watch your language! We're among #$(*% civvies!" --ALBEDO #2 (old) P.S.: a while back, someone offered to send copies of the eps to anyone who'd pay the duplication costs, but I lost the address. You still out there? From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 22 10:45:56 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id KAA22340 for sonic-ll; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 10:45:35 -0400 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id KAA22335 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 10:45:33 -0400 From: BBlaze@aol.com Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA193482113; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 10:48:33 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 10:48:33 -0400 Message-Id: <950422104831_92172950@aol.com> To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: anyone notice... Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >And a quote from sally was "my father was here!". And >she most certainly was no where near the void. >In season two, it was made clear that her father was >thrown into the void right after Julian took over. >Then it was shown that Sally's dad couldn't leave the >void without turning to crystal. My theory: The room from Blast to the Past is most likely some type of a lab where the void was first developed. Robotnik (Julian, whatever) captures the king and holds him in Ironlock(e?) until he's ready to throw the king into the void. While he's there, he leaves a message for Sally (or Sandy according to Daniel Drazen). Years later, Sally happens to find the message and comes to the obvious conclusion, "my father was here!" -B.B. "Liiiiisa! Get in here! In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!" -Homer Simpson, The Simpsons From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 22 11:12:19 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id LAA22449 for sonic-ll; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 11:12:18 -0400 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id LAA22444 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 11:12:16 -0400 From: BBlaze@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA255003717; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 11:15:17 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 11:15:17 -0400 Message-Id: <950422111516_92190572@aol.com> To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: RE: all ye non-believers,... Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >> > What I'd like to know is how he manages to rotate his tails without >> > getting them wrapped around each other. It's just magical the way he >> > does that. :-) > >What I *meant* to say is: > >Maybe he's got some sort of rotator cuff built into his butt? (:3 First of all, you can't fly with two tails anyway. Since Tails is a fox, chances are his tails are not aerodynamically designed for flying. But let's say they are, he'd have to rotate them pretty fast to get himself off the ground. But let's say he has some special muscle that can do that (like a hummingbird), his tails would get wrapped around each other. He could spin them one way for a while, then when they get caught up, spin them the other way. Or he could spin one clockwise and one counterclockwise where each one would go over the other so they don't hit each other. Problem solved. -B.B. "Simple, just change the gravitational constant of the universe." -Q, Star Trek: The Next Generation From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 22 11:18:18 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id LAA22481 for sonic-ll; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 11:18:16 -0400 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id LAA22476 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 11:18:14 -0400 From: BBlaze@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA266924069; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 11:21:09 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 11:21:09 -0400 Message-Id: <950422112107_92194658@aol.com> To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: RE: all ye non-believers,... Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >Why does Tails have 2 tails? "Tails' Tale," David Pistone. >What happened to her mother? "Bloodlines," Daniel Drazen. -B.B. "I am not just a doctor. I've been designed with the information from two thousand medical reference sources and the experience of forty-seven individual medical officers. I am the embodiment of modern medicine. How much dirt do you need?" -The Doctor, Star Trek: Voyager From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 22 16:07:01 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id QAA23046 for sonic-ll; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 16:06:45 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id QAA23040; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 16:06:43 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 16:06:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: anyone notice... In-Reply-To: <950422104831_92172950@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Sat, 22 Apr 1995 BBlaze@aol.com wrote: > >And a quote from sally was "my father was here!". And > >she most certainly was no where near the void. > >In season two, it was made clear that her father was > >thrown into the void right after Julian took over. > >Then it was shown that Sally's dad couldn't leave the > >void without turning to crystal. > > My theory: > The room from Blast to the Past is most likely some type of a lab where > the void was first developed. Robotnik (Julian, whatever) captures the king > and holds him in Ironlock(e?) until he's ready to throw the king into the > void. While he's there, he leaves a message for Sally (or Sandy according to > Daniel Drazen). Years later, Sally happens to find the message and comes to > the obvious conclusion, "my father was here!" > > -B.B. Not bad. I wish they would have hinted at that. That's not a bad theory. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work: paul@mv.mv.com | Play: rat@rat.mv.com WWW : http://www.mv.com/users/rat | FTP : ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat AOL : PaulHurley | CIS : 75014,77 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 22 22:51:22 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA24611 for sonic-ll; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 22:51:05 -0400 Received: from holodeck.cc.vt.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA24606 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 22:51:03 -0400 Message-Id: <199504230251.WAA24606@sard.mv.net> Received: from jpegnato.async.vt.edu by holodeck.cc.vt.edu with SMTP (8.6.10/16.2) id WAA19963; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 22:54:38 -0400 X-Sender: jpegnato@mail.vt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 22:55:10 +0600 To: sonic@sard.mv.net From: jpegnato@vt.edu (Jeffrey Pegnato) Subject: New pic - Sally X-Mailer: Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net New pic just sent to rat/incoming...awaiting acceptance... He He He.... I know you're ALL going to like this one... Be afraid, be VERY afraid... 'Think I'll post it to a.b.p.c also... l8er. ***"When you are courting a nice girl an hour seems like a second. When you sit on a red-hot cinder a second seems like an hour. That's relativity."*** - Albert Einstein Working hard to destroy stupidity everywhere... Jeffrey Pegnato jpegnato@vt.edu From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 22 22:55:30 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA24637 for sonic-ll; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 22:55:29 -0400 Received: from ns.ge.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA24632 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 22:55:27 -0400 Received: from engr.erie.ge.com ([3.14.4.3]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA19310 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 22:59:03 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 22:59:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Ron Bauerle To: sonic@sard.mv.net CC: BAUERLE@engr.erie.ge.com Message-Id: <950422225901.50c4@engr.erie.ge.com> Subject: Re: New pic - Sally Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >From: jpegnato@vt.edu (Jeffrey Pegnato) >I know you're ALL going to like this one... >Be afraid, be VERY afraid... >'Think I'll post it to a.b.p.c also... Should that be a.b.p.e.c? Is anybody interested in an ASCII and/or ANSI pic of Sally? Both were posted to the Fidonet Toons echo, and while I didn't think they were that great, if anybody wants them I can send them out... RDB From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 22 23:47:29 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id XAA24888 for sonic-ll; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 23:47:28 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id XAA24882; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 23:47:26 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 23:47:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: New pic - Sally In-Reply-To: <199504230251.WAA24606@sard.mv.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Sat, 22 Apr 1995, Jeffrey Pegnato wrote: > New pic just sent to rat/incoming...awaiting acceptance... > > He He He.... > I know you're ALL going to like this one... > > Be afraid, be VERY afraid... > > 'Think I'll post it to a.b.p.c also... He's referring to: ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat/sonic/images/sallyfox.gif --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work: paul@mv.mv.com | Play: rat@rat.mv.com WWW : http://www.mv.com/users/rat | FTP : ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat AOL : PaulHurley | CIS : 75014,77 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sun Apr 23 00:44:13 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA25220 for sonic-ll; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 00:44:02 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA25215 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 00:43:59 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) id AAA06877; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 00:41:23 -0400 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 00:41:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2" To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: New pic - Sally In-Reply-To: <950422225901.50c4@engr.erie.ge.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Sat, 22 Apr 1995, Ron Bauerle wrote: > Is anybody interested in an ASCII and/or ANSI pic of Sally? Both were > posted to the Fidonet Toons echo, and while I didn't think they were that > great, if anybody wants them I can send them out... Go ahead and post them. I think someone did before ask about getting other Sonic ASCII art, other than the one that appears at the top of faq-dd. As many of us use VT-100 terminals on the 'net, you might want to UUencode any ANSI images so no one's screen will get messed up by the different control codes. This isn't a binaries list, but short, infrequent posts of ANSI art shouldn't be much of a problem for anyone here. For you those of you who can run DOS programs (ie, not to forget OS/2 and SoftPC users), I've got two programs that can be used to convert .GIF images to ASCII. Both will require some experimentation with each image to get satisfactory results. Both programs are small, and both are free. If anyone is interested in getting these programs, please let me know. |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| | A! JW2 WAR++ PI~ BR+i SL++++i SK+++ RI++^ RU+ GDF BU+ MI- MM KK-- | | P++ D $++ E59 Ee5 Eee35 TRita Ay68 M | | "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog | |-- A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! ------------------------------| From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 24 00:04:15 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA03956 for sonic-ll; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:03:49 -0400 Received: from anvil.gatech.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA03951 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:03:46 -0400 Received: from acmey.gatech.edu (acmey.gatech.edu [130.207.165.23]) by anvil.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA26875 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:07:29 -0400 From: gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu (Robin Hood) Received: (gt6005a@localhost) by acmey.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA19959 for sonic@sard.mv.net; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:07:28 -0400 Message-Id: <199504240407.AAA19959@acmey.gatech.edu> Subject: Run with the Fox, Part 0 To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:07:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1927 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Run with the Fox A Sonic the Hedgehog story by Kris Kelley This story is protected by copyright laws. Feel free to distribute this story, but the author does not allow any unauthorized alteration of the story or distribution for profit. Part 0. Author's comments, "thank you"s, and the usual legal formalities... Hello again, and welcome to my second Sonic (and Tolouse) story. Thanks go to Alan White, Chris Squire, Pete Sinfield, Dan Ramos, David Pistone, Craig Moore, and "Sally" for story inspiration. "Hiya!"s go to all the FurTooniacs: Tails, Orwin, Vision, Tyro, and whoever else needs one. :-) Please send any comments or suggestions to: gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu All characters depicted herein are the creation and property of Service and Games (SEGA) and/or Archie Publications and/or DiC except for the following: Tolouse: created and owned by Kris Kelley. Bookshire and Packbell: created and owned by David Pistone. Song lyrics are from "Run with the Fox", written by Alan White, Chris Squire, and Pete Sinfield. (c) 1981, published by Topographic Music. Historian's Note: This story begins exactly "Tolouse's Story" left off. ---Kris, who's getting just a little bit tired with all the "alternative" pictures. -- *******Robin Hood (Kris Kelley) gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu***************** * fnord-42-froinlaven-cowabunga-the truth is out there-get out-spin dash * * are you pondering what I'm pondering?-welcome to the next level-yars!! * * finish him!-i hope i've shown you how to treat a lady-i'm a character! * ************************************************************************** * "Don't care what people say / Just follow your own way." - Enigma * * "I'm not sure that the world would be ready for 2 of me!" - P. O'Toole * * "Life: Am I taking this too personally?" - me * ************************************************************************** From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 24 00:04:15 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA03964 for sonic-ll; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:04:02 -0400 Received: from anvil.gatech.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA03958 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:03:58 -0400 Received: from acmey.gatech.edu (acmey.gatech.edu [130.207.165.23]) by anvil.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA26899 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:07:47 -0400 From: gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu (Robin Hood) Received: (gt6005a@localhost) by acmey.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA19998 for sonic@sard.mv.net; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:07:46 -0400 Message-Id: <199504240407.AAA19998@acmey.gatech.edu> Subject: Run with the Fox, Part 1 To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:07:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 7234 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Run with the Fox A Sonic the Hedgehog story by Kris Kelley This story is protected by copyright laws. Feel free to distribute this story, but the author does not allow any unauthorized alteration of the story or distribution for profit. Part 1. Now the season, now the question Time to breathe a moment's grace For the hunter, and the hunted Take the time to break the pace! Are you hopeful, are you haunted By the Ghost of Christmas Past? Face the future undaunted Step aside or take your chance! * * * "So you want to be a Freedom Fighter, huh?" "Yes. I do." Sonic studied Tolouse, looking him up and down. Tolouse stood very still, not knowing how and if he should move. Suddenly, Sonic smiled and slapped him on the back, surprising Tolouse. Sonic laughed. "I like ya, bud! I don't know why yet, but I like ya! So, how'd you know about us?" That got Tolouse talking, and he spoke rapidly. "We had a radio, and we heard talk, and I decided that I should find you, and---" "Whoa, slow down there, bud!" Sonic interrupted. "Why don't you start from a place I can understand. Like the beginning!" Tolouse and Sonic sat down on the forest floor, and Tolouse told as best as he could what had happened. Sonic listened, seeing the fox move from tears to anger, hearing his voice move from cracking with sorrow to iron-cold with determination. Then, the story was over. Tolouse sat pawing the ground, and Sonic looked at him. Sonic then smiled to himself. I just know he'd make a great Freedom Fighter, he thought. Tolouse finally broke the silence with a question he hesitated to ask. "So. Will you let me join?" Sonic stood up. "Well..." Sonic wanted to say yes, but he knew he better check with a certain someone, first. He studied Tolouse for a second more, and made certain his earlier thoughts. "C'mon, get up, bud!" Tolouse got up, a look of hope on his face. "Here, you better let me carry you. We'll get there faster." Tolouse look confused. "Huh? Faster...?" Sonic smirked, holding his hands out. "You bet! Come on!" Tolouse let Sonic pick him up. "Where're we going?" "Knothole! Hang on!" Sonic began building momentum. "Hang on? Hang on to wha---" Tolouse's last question changed to a scream in utter surprise and a grip for dear life as he experienced his first ride from Sonic the Hedgehog. * * * Sally heard a knock, and got up from her seat, setting Nicole down on a table. She opened the door and saw a familiar hedgehog with a familiar smirk on his face, and an unfamiliar fox who looked like his life had just flashed before his eyes. "Hey, Sally! I've got somebody for you to meet. This is Tolouse." Tolouse caught his breath and nodded politely. "Hello." Sally returned a polite "Hello," and asked Sonic to step inside. "Who is he?" "I found him in the forest, where he'd been following Bookshire. Listen, I think you should talk to him." Sally remembered Bookshire's earlier visit, and figured this must be the results of Sonic's search. "Uh-huh," she said, somewhat curious. "And why is that?" "He wants to join us. Hear 'im out." Before Sally could reply, Sonic motioned Tolouse inside the hut. Tolouse stepped in, a little nervously. "Tolouse, this is Sally," Sonic pretended to clear his throat and then said with a deeper voice, "Princess of the House of Acorn!" Sonic chuckled, and Tolouse blinked in astonishment. Sally dismissed the grand title. "Please, Sonic, you know I'm just 'Sally' here." Then, she looked at Tolouse, who looked at Sonic as if for a cue. "Tell her what you told me, Tolouse." He then walked towards the door. "I'll be runnin' around outside." When he closed the door, Sally turned and looked at Tolouse again. "So, your name is Tolouse?" Tolouse spoke as confidently as he could. "Yes. I want to join the Freedom Fighters." This was not the first time Sally had heard this. "I see. Why do you wish to join?" Tolouse told her the story he had told Sonic earlier that morning. * * * Tolouse paced about in Sonic's hut, wondering what they could be saying. What if they won't let me join? he thought. They have to! They just have to! Sonic and Sally continued talking in Sally's hut. Sonic was convinced that Tolouse could help in the cause. Sally wasn't so sure. "Sonic, I sympathize with him completely. I've lost my father too, you know. But we've got quite a few in Knothole asking to go on missions already, and you know we can't just take anybody. Does he even realize what can happen if a mission fails?" "I think he does, Sal. Besides, there aren't many people I know that seem as sure about it than he is. Most of them I already call Freedom Fighters!" Sally sighed. "Well, what can he contribute? You've got speed, Bunnie has strength, Antoine---" Sonic smirked at the recent addition to the Freedom Fighters. "Yeah, why'd we pick him, anyway?" Sally sighed. "He's been here as long as we have, and he's studied all the military strategy books and files we could find. He comes up with a good idea every now and then, you know." "Sure. About as often as Rotor cleans his equipment shed!" Sonic snickered at his own joke. "Too cool, too cool." "Sonic, I'm serious. Every person you and I pick has something to give to the cause, and they know what they face. Are you sure Tolouse is up to that?" For a rare moment, Sonic became as serious as Sally was. "Sally, I think he is. But you know something else? I don't think he's really planned for anything else. Think about it. He's spent half his life thinking about it, and wandered around in the forest for three weeks trying to find us. He'd still be out there if he hadn't've seen Bookshire." Sonic's and Sally's eyes met. "I'd hate to be the one to tell him no." Sally sighed, still uncertain. "C'mon, Sal! I'll take responsibility for him." Sally couldn't help but laugh. "Oh you will, hmm?" Sonic brightened up. "You betcha!" "That would be a first!" "Hey! So, will you let him?" * * * Tolouse was sitting on Sonic's bed when he heard the door open. He quickly got up and anxiously asked, "So?" Sonic looked at Tolouse, his face revealing nothing. "Sally wants to see you again." to be continued -- *******Robin Hood (Kris Kelley) gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu***************** * fnord-42-froinlaven-cowabunga-the truth is out there-get out-spin dash * * are you pondering what I'm pondering?-welcome to the next level-yars!! * * finish him!-i hope i've shown you how to treat a lady-i'm a character! * ************************************************************************** * "Don't care what people say / Just follow your own way." - Enigma * * "I'm not sure that the world would be ready for 2 of me!" - P. O'Toole * * "Life: Am I taking this too personally?" - me * ************************************************************************** From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 24 00:04:39 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA03984 for sonic-ll; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:04:37 -0400 Received: from anvil.gatech.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA03979 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:04:34 -0400 Received: from acmey.gatech.edu (acmey.gatech.edu [130.207.165.23]) by anvil.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA26997 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:08:23 -0400 From: gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu (Robin Hood) Received: (gt6005a@localhost) by acmey.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA20070 for sonic@sard.mv.net; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:08:22 -0400 Message-Id: <199504240408.AAA20070@acmey.gatech.edu> Subject: Run with the Fox, Part 2 To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:08:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 6679 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Run with the Fox A Sonic the Hedgehog Story by Kris Kelley This story is protected by copyright laws. Feel free to distribute this story, but the author does not allow any unauthorized alteration of the story or distribution for profit. Part 2. Tolouse walked slowly over to Sally's hut, anxious. When he got to the door, he took one last look at the village that was Knothole. He sighed and said to himself, "When I leave this hut, I'll either be a Freedom Fighter ...or I won't ever come back." Then, just before turning around and knocking on the door, he breathed deeply and said, "Well, it won't be because I didn't try. I am *not* going to mess this up!" Taking one last deep breath, he knocked on the door. "Come in," said a pleasant voice. He did. Sally looked up from where she was seated. "Tolouse. Sit down." He did. For a few minutes there was silence, and Tolouse's heart pounded against his chest. But he made himself keep still, and he locked his gaze with Sally's. I am *not* going to mess this up! Finally, Sally spoke. [[Author's note: Tolouse has been sworn to secrecy about the conversation that took place between him and Sally. Therefore, this story has been edited for the public. Sorry :-).]] Sally looked at Tolouse once again, and then smiled, very faintly so Tolouse would not notice. Then, she got up and looked out the window. "Tolouse, do me a favor. You must promise not to tell anyone about these questions or your answers." Tolouse nodded. "I promise." Sally turned back around. "Can you, on oath as a Freedom Fighter?" Tolouse's eyes shot up at her. Sally chuckled. "Well, if you're going to be a Freedom Fighter, prove to me that I can trust you like one!" Tolouse got up and stood tall. "Princess Sally, I promise you that I will not tell anyone about your questions." Sally smiled, and placed her hand on his shoulder. "Welcome aboard, Tolouse." Tolouse's mind flew in one thousand different directions at once, and his body threatened to do the same, but he held his composure and said, "Thank you, Princess." Sally chuckled again. "Please, like I told Sonic, just refer to me as 'Sally'. You see, the reason I want you to not say anything is so I can use these questions again, with other potential Freedom Fighters. Understand what I mean?" Tolouse nodded. "I do." "Good. Now, do me another favor will you? Help me play a little joke on Sonic." Tolouse blinked. "A joke?" Sally giggled. "Well, even I can have a little fun every once in a while, especially where that hedgehog is concerned." Sally grinned. "Will you help me?" "Sure, I guess. What do I do?" "Stay here while I walk out and tell him that I've decided you should not be a Freedom Fighter. Then, I'll let him come in, and you play your part. Then we'll spring it on him together!" Tolouse thought about it. "He...won't mind...?" Sally giggled again. "That hedgehog is always playing jokes on people. He'll just be getting a dose of his own medicine." "Uh, okay. I can do that." Sally smiled. "Thank you. Just wait here, okay?" and she was out the door. Right as the door closed, a loud "YES!!" could have been heard within the walls of Sally's hut. * * * "You did, huh?" "I am sorry, Sonic, but I think he took it well. I told him he was welcome to stay at Knothole, but I just don't think he's ready to be a Freedom Fighter yet." Sonic shook his head, but said nothing. Sally spoke up. "Why don't you go and talk to him? I'm sure he could use the company." "I guess," Sonic said, and walked towards Sally's hut. He didn't hear Sally's faint giggle coming from behind him. * * * Tolouse looked up as Sonic came in, and did his best to hide his excitement. He got up and pretended to look wistfully out the window. "Hey, bud. Sally, uh, told me." "I guess," Tolouse said, making sure to put a note of sadness in his voice. "C'mon, cheer up, Tolly! You can stay here, and someday, maybe..." Oh, I can't hold on any longer! But right as Tolouse turned around, Sally entered the hut. "Gotcha, Sonic," she said, and giggled. "Huh?" Sonic turned to Tolouse, confused. Tolouse burst out laughing. Sonic turned back to Sally, more confused. "But I thought...hey! You tricked me!" "That I did, Sonic," Sally said. She looked at Tolouse. "Sonic, meet our newest Freedom Fighter." Sonic looked at Tolouse, who was beaming with pride. "All right!!" * * * Later that day, Sonic and Tolouse sat under a tree, talking about themselves and listening to the wind rustling the leaves. Sonic looked over at Tolouse and smiled. "You're in, bud." Tolouse sighed. "I'm in." Tears of joy once again began to well in his eyes. Sonic couldn't take such a display of emotion. "Hey, ease up!" he said. Finally, he got up and stretched. "Come on. Sally and I are gonna talk to you tomorrow about what we do. But first thing's first. We gotta get you some place to live, and I want ya to meet a few people!" He thought for a moment, then started back towards the village. "Follow me, I know just where you can stay. Si's old place!" Sonic stopped right when the name 'Si' left his lips, and he remembered what Sally had warned about failed missions. He sighed as his mind went back to a couple of months ago, when such a mission had resulted in the loss of a friend. "Tolouse?" "Yes, Sonic?" He studied Tolouse once again. "This really what you want?" Tolouse felt more certain with each passing second. "Yes, Sonic. I've waited my whole life for this." Sonic saw the look of certainty in Tolouse's eyes, and his spirits lifted again. "Well that's good, bud, 'cuz you're gonna be in for quite an adventure! Let's go!" to be continued -- *******Robin Hood (Kris Kelley) gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu***************** * fnord-42-froinlaven-cowabunga-the truth is out there-get out-spin dash * * are you pondering what I'm pondering?-welcome to the next level-yars!! * * finish him!-i hope i've shown you how to treat a lady-i'm a character! * ************************************************************************** * "Don't care what people say / Just follow your own way." - Enigma * * "I'm not sure that the world would be ready for 2 of me!" - P. O'Toole * * "Life: Am I taking this too personally?" - me * ************************************************************************** From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 24 00:05:00 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA04005 for sonic-ll; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:04:59 -0400 Received: from anvil.gatech.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA03999 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:04:55 -0400 Received: from acmey.gatech.edu (acmey.gatech.edu [130.207.165.23]) by anvil.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA27028 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:08:45 -0400 From: gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu (Robin Hood) Received: (gt6005a@localhost) by acmey.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA20151 for sonic@sard.mv.net; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:08:44 -0400 Message-Id: <199504240408.AAA20151@acmey.gatech.edu> Subject: Run with the Fox, Part 3 To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:08:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 5921 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Run with the Fox A Sonic the Hedgehog Story by Kris Kelley This story is protected by copyright laws. Feel free to distribute this story, but the author does not allow any unauthorized alteration of the story or distribution for profit. Part 3. One week later. Tolouse lay on his bed, thinking about what had occured during the days since Sally had told him he was accepted as a Freedom Fighter. He had been told many things. He had seen how the Freedom Fighters and the rest of the villagers lived and worked. And, he was finding a place for himself... * * * ...A Freedom Fighter leaves no detail unnoticed... ...Sonic and Tolouse walked through the forest. "Remember, Tolouse, use your eyes, ears, nose, everything. But don't start using one so much that you ignore all the others. You're gonna hafta rely on all of them all the time..." ..."Found her!" Sonic ran up beside him. "Good work, Tolouse!" Sally got up from her hiding place. "Yes, good work. Tell me, Tolouse, how did you find me? I was completely hidden from view." "I saw where you had stepped on leaves, and then when I was close, I noticed your scent." Sonic said, "There, you see? You hafta use all the senses all the time. You did great!" Tolouse smiled, proud... ...A Freedom Fighter does not ignore any possible sign of danger... ...Tails jumped. "Ah! What is that?" Sonic had suggested that Tolouse and Tails spend some time getting to know each other. What Tolouse didn't know was that Sonic and Tails also had a plan of their own, and this was another test for Tolouse. Tolouse looked in the direction that the noise was coming from, and was a little scared himself. He thought that perhaps it was just a forest animal, but his life had taught him never to be too sure of anything. In his old village, everybody would have been underground by now. He looked at Tails, and tried to sound confident. "Uh...wait here Tails. I'll check it out..." Tolouse began to cautiously approach the area of the noise...but then he stopped himself... ...A Freedom Fighter never puts anybody at unnecessary risk... ...Wrong answer, Tolouse, he thought to himself. Looking at Tails again, he said, "Come on. It's probably nothing, but I don't really know. We'll go back and tell the others." Suddenly, a blue streak broke out of the forest from where the noise had occured, and stopped right in front of Tolouse and Tails. The streak formed itself into Sonic, who stood there smirking. Tolouse jumped in surprise, and Tails giggled. "Right answer, Tolouse," Sonic said. "You win again!" "So that was...aww, I should've known!" Tails piped up, "But you didn't know, Tolouse. You can't take chances when you are with somebody else. Right, Sonic?" Sonic gave Tails a high-five. "Right, big guy!" "Advice that you should follow yourself, Sonic Hedgehog." All three turned around to see Sally. "Aww, Sal, I never take any chances. I always know what I'm doing." Sally rolled her eyes, and said, chuckling, "Of course you do." Tails giggled. Sonic shrugged and said, "Come on, big guy, race you home." "Okay, Sonic," and they were off in a blur of legs and tails, while Sally and Tolouse decided not to try and keep up as they walked back to the village... ...Most importantly, a Freedom Fighter stays calm in the face of danger... ...Tolouse and Sonic sat in the look-out post the Freedom Fighters had constructed near the southern edge of the Great Forest. Sonic handed a pair of binoculars to Tolouse. "You see that?" Tolouse looked through the binoculars at the horizon. Through them, the city came into detail, and he shivered. "Yes." "Robotropolis, where Ro-butt-nik lives. Pretty scary just to look at, isn't it?" "Yeah, it is." "Well, you can't stay scared, bud. Some day you are going to be with us on a mission there, and you're gonna hafta make yourself stay unscared. Understand?" Tolouse looked at the horizon, the city a small dot once again to his un- aided eyes. "Yes, I understand." "Good. Now, how do you like it up here?" "What, up here in the tree? It's okay, I guess." "Glad you like it! That's your first mission: you have sentry duty tonight." "Huh??" Sonic chuckled. "Like Sally would say, I'm just full of surprises." Tolouse look bewildered. "Uh, tonight?" Sonic laughed. "Don't worry, all you gotta do is stay up and watch. If you see anything bad looking, just use this box to call Sally." Sonic handed Tolouse a com-link. "Think you'll be okay?" "Yeah, I guess. Just wish I had known a little ahead of time." Sonic laughed again. "I told you you were in for an adventure. And adventures don't keep schedules." As he started to climb down, he said. "Oh, Tolouse, I'll be back to check up on ya. Don't fall asleep!"... * * * A knock sounded on Tolouse's door. When Tolouse opened it, he saw Sonic standing there. "Hi, Sonic. What's up?" Sonic looked him in the eye and said, "We have a mission, bud." to be continued -- *******Robin Hood (Kris Kelley) gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu***************** * fnord-42-froinlaven-cowabunga-the truth is out there-get out-spin dash * * are you pondering what I'm pondering?-welcome to the next level-yars!! * * finish him!-i hope i've shown you how to treat a lady-i'm a character! * ************************************************************************** * "Don't care what people say / Just follow your own way." - Enigma * * "I'm not sure that the world would be ready for 2 of me!" - P. O'Toole * * "Life: Am I taking this too personally?" - me * ************************************************************************** From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 24 00:05:23 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA04024 for sonic-ll; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:05:21 -0400 Received: from anvil.gatech.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA04019 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:05:17 -0400 Received: from acmey.gatech.edu (acmey.gatech.edu [130.207.165.23]) by anvil.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA27073 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:09:07 -0400 From: gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu (Robin Hood) Received: (gt6005a@localhost) by acmey.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA20243 for sonic@sard.mv.net; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:09:06 -0400 Message-Id: <199504240409.AAA20243@acmey.gatech.edu> Subject: Run with the Fox, Part 4 To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:09:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 9231 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Run with the Fox A Sonic the Hedgehog Story by Kris Kelley This story is protected by copyright laws. Feel free to distribute this story, but the author does not allow any unauthorized alteration of the story or distribution for profit. Part 4. The Freedom Fighters had to choose their missions carefully. They didn't have the supplies nor the people to pursue a war with reckless abandon, and because each mission involved a huge amount of risk, they had to make sure that what would occur if they were successful was worth it. If they were successful. A while back, Bookshire and Rotor had managed to force a link to the Robotropolis Main Computer Core, but even with that source of information, they had to be cautious. Packbell, Robotnik's android commander, knew of the link, and was constantly planting false information in the computer files, hoping to trap the Freedom Fighters. It was false information that had led to a failed mission where Bunnie was partially roboticized. That was not something the Freedom Fighters wanted to have happen again. Now, however, there was enough reliable information to be had, and Sally decided it was time for another mission. That evening, all who would be involved with the mission were gathered in Sally's hut to go over what would take place. There was Sally, Sonic, Bookshire, Bunnie...and Tolouse. Sonic and Tolouse were the last ones to appear. As they stepped through the doorway, Tolouse saw the somber expression on everybody's face, and he knew it was for real this time. He sat down in a chair offered to him, breathing deeply in an attempt to calm his nerves. Sonic sat next to him, and then the room quieted as Sally got up to give the details of the mission. She set Nicole down on the table and said, "Nicole, display the coolant treatment plant." The small computer beeped in reply, and soon a holographic projection of one of Robotnik's city structures was floating in front of the gathering. Sally stood beside it. "According to information Bookshire was able to retrieve, all of Robotnik's factories use a coolant system to keep the machines from overheating. However, the coolant formula that he uses is very unstable, and must be constantly recycled. Here," Sally pointed to the hologram, "is where that takes place. If we succeed in disabling the treatment plant, all of Robotnik's factories will be off line, until he gets the plant repaired or rebuilt. This means there will be less opportunity for him to search for Knothole and other forest refugees, which means we have succeeded in buying valuable time." She hesitated before saying softly, "Time that could quite possibly allow us to find a way to beat him once and for all." She cleared her throat and continued in a normal voice. "The plant follows a schedule. Every day of the week coolant is brought in from different parts of the city for treatment and recycling. We've found out that many of the factories that normally have their coolant recycled tomorrow are undergoing reconstruction, so this is our best opportunity to disable the plant. "Now, here's the plan: I will see to any security measures that need taking care of, and Tolouse will be with me, standing guard and helping if necessary. Once I give an okay, Sonic and Bunnie will go inside and plant the explosives. Any questions?" There were none. "Okay. Sonic, Bunnie, I'm sure I don't have to tell you that even though the plant won't be as busy as normal, there will still be worker- bots and Swat-bots all throughout the plant. Please be careful. And, Tolouse..." Sally smiled. "This will be your first time going with us to Robotropolis. Are you ready?" Tolouse tried to remember a time when he felt more scared, and he did. He had been four years old, and he and his mother were fleeing Mobotropolis. But, this was what he was here for. "Yes. I am." Sally nodded. "Good. Okay, everybody, try and get some sleep. We...have a long day set for tomorrow. Good night." They all got up and gave their polite good-byes. As Tolouse approached the door, he was tapped on the shoulder. He turned around, and saw Sonic. "Well, bud, this is it. How ya feelin'?" Tolouse was not going to lie. "Scared as heck." Sonic nodded. "You'd be crazy not to. Don't worry too much, though. After all," Sonic elbowed Tolouse's side, "you got the *easy* part. Just stand beside Sally and look around." Tolouse swallowed, trying not to sound too uncertain. "Okay. I'll do my best." "That's the spirit, bud. Okay, go home, get some rest. Big day tomorrow." Sonic waved good night, and Tolouse waved in return. Tolouse spent most of the night lieing in bed, wide awake, thinking of his mother and the rest of the underground villagers, thinking of his new friends at Knothole, and thinking of tomorrow's mission. This is it. Here we go... * * * Early the next morning, the mission began. Sonic did his usual service as transportation, and soon they were all standing in the junk yards outside of Robotropolis. After that, they walked towards the treatment plant. Soon, the plant was towering above them. Sally handed Sonic and Bunnie com-links and pointed to the rubble of a collapsed building. "You two hide over there until while I figure out a way in. Tolouse, follow me." Sally spent the next few minutes looking over the outside of the structure, hoping to find a way in that would allow for the least amount of tinkering with the security systems. Tolouse followed closely, ready to do anything he was told. * * * Dr. Ivo Robotnik sat in his command chair, drumming his fingers as if he were bored. Snively, of course, knew better. Whenever he saw Robotnik like this, it was usually soon followed by Robotnik jumping out of his chair as if struck by some great inspiration, and soon yet another factory or another technologically-wonderful toy or another fearce weapon to be used against the Freedom Fighters was being built. Well, Snively thought to himself with sarcasm, the old goon will be *quite* happy with this latest development. "Sir?" "What is it, Snively?" "I am pleased to report, sir, that the factories you requested additions to..." "Yes?" Robotnik interrupted, leaning forward. "They have been finished ahead of schedule, sir." Robotnik stood up, excitement coursing through him. "That is wonderful news, Snively. Well, get them running! Establish the links to the power generators, the water plants, the coolant plant..." "Preparations are being made, sir," said Snively, feeling more arrogant with each passing moment. As if *I* need to be told how to run these things... "Excellent, Snively," Robotnik said, rubbing his hands together. "This is turning out to be a fine day..." He looked at Snively. "Well? Carry on!" "Yes, sir." Snively turned on his heel and walked out of the room. * * * Tolouse was hiding in the rubble, keeping his eye on the treatment plant and the area surrounding it. Sally had found a way in, and now, Sonic and Bunnie were somewhere inside, while Sally stood watch near their make-shift entrance. Provided that all went as planned, the only thing left for Tolouse to do was to wait until all three of them returned to the rubble. Of course, it was also his mission to warn them should anything approach the plant, even though there was not supposed to be activity until later in the day. Tolouse yawned and rubbed his eyes. When he opened them again, again, he saw three tankers making their way to the plant. "Oh, gods!" He quickly pulled out his com-link and said into it, "Guys, there's some tankers coming to the plant! They're coming from the..." Tolouse paused to look around and remember his directions. He never got a chance to decide on the right one. "FREEZE, PRISONER!" Tolouse heard a robotic voice say. He spun around and saw a Swat-bot holding a laser rifle to his head. He froze, the com-link slipping out of his hand and clattering on the concrete below. The Swat-bot called to another bot, and soon Tolouse was being escorted to the prison block. The com-link left behind came to life. "Tolouse, repeat that...Tolouse?...oh gods, Tolouse...? Bunnie, Sonic, abort the mission. Let's get out of here!" to be continued -- *******Robin Hood (Kris Kelley) gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu***************** * fnord-42-froinlaven-cowabunga-the truth is out there-get out-spin dash * * are you pondering what I'm pondering?-welcome to the next level-yars!! * * finish him!-i hope i've shown you how to treat a lady-i'm a character! * ************************************************************************** * "Don't care what people say / Just follow your own way." - Enigma * * "I'm not sure that the world would be ready for 2 of me!" - P. O'Toole * * "Life: Am I taking this too personally?" - me * ************************************************************************** From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 24 00:05:45 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA04050 for sonic-ll; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:05:43 -0400 Received: from anvil.gatech.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA04042 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:05:39 -0400 Received: from acmey.gatech.edu (acmey.gatech.edu [130.207.165.23]) by anvil.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA27127 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:09:29 -0400 From: gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu (Robin Hood) Received: (gt6005a@localhost) by acmey.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA20285 for sonic@sard.mv.net; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:09:27 -0400 Message-Id: <199504240409.AAA20285@acmey.gatech.edu> Subject: Run with the Fox, Part 5 To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:09:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 10151 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Run with the Fox A Sonic the Hedgehog Story by Kris Kelley This story is protected by copyright laws. Feel free to distribute this story, but the author does not allow any unauthorized alteration of the story or distribution for profit. Part 5. "I tell you, I should have gone after him right then!!" "Sonic, we had to get out of there! With those tankers coming in, there would not have been any hiding place at all! There was no time!" "Yeah, but..." Sonic had to finish his sentence with a fist to the wall. He stood, shaking his head, and finally said, "Well, what's to stop me from going after him, now? I've got a power ring. All I've got to do is bust him out of the prison block, right?" Sally looked at Bookshire, who sat looking at his computer. "It doesn't look that way, Sonic," he said. "According to this, Tolouse has yet to be entered as a prisoner." "What??" Bookshire explained. "Robotnik has a system for keeping track of prisoners. Whenever a 'rebel' is captured, he is taken to the prison block, informed that he has been tried for treason and found guilty, and then his name is entered into the computer. Some time after that, he is roboticized and sent to work wherever Robotnik 'needs' him. I'm looking at those records now. Tolouse's name is nowhere to be seen." "So what does that mean? He could still be in the prison block, right, and just not typed in?" Sally answered. "That is a possibility, but there is no way to guarantee that, and you would spend too much time looking for him. For all we know he could have been," she swallowed, "killed right after he called us." "Or, he could still be alive hiding somewhere, right?! I want to go look for him!" "Sonic, please, listen!" Sally tried to comfort him, but her voice was cracking as well. "The odds of him being alive and hiding are...not enough to justify this. Right now there is nothing we can do. But..." and she turned to look at Bookshire, "as soon as he finds out anything, we will go find him." Sonic looked at Sally, but said nothing. Soon after that, he walked slowly out of Bookshire's dwelling. Bookshire sighed and said quietly, "Sally, I'll try everywhere. It may take a while, but there are some other files I can try breaking into that might help..." Sally mouthed a quiet "thank you" and turned to follow Sonic. * * * Some time earlier... Packbell paced around Tolouse slowly, calmly repeating his question one last time. "Now, I'll ask once more, and if you answer politely and honestly, there may be hope for you. What were you doing near the coolant treatment plant?" Tolouse trembled with fear, and he knew that he didn't sound convincing, but he wasn't going to betray his friends. "J-j-just walking around." Packbell glared at him, a stare that bore deep into Tolouse and threatened to make him faint. "Very well, I guess I will have to---" "Packbell! How is my favorite android today? I hear we have a new prisoner!" Packbell cursed silently, and turned to greet Robotnik. "Good day, sir. I was conducting interrogation of this prisoner." "Yes, something that you are quite good at. However, I have something else in mind today. Take the prisoner to my personal transport. I wish to...have a little talk with him." Packbell's basic emotions allowed him to experience surprise and utter disbelief. "Sir? Perhaps you would be interested in---" "Not today, Packbell, not today. I am in a rare good mood, and I intend to make the most of it. And I think this prisoner can help me." Tolouse wasn't sure if he should feel relieved that he was getting away from Packbell or even more scared that Robotnik apparently had special plans for him. He was numbly aware of the Swat-bots releasing him from the interrogation chair and leading him towards Robotnik's vehicle. Packbell continued to regard Robotnik with shock. "Sir, may I ask what you have in mind?" Robotnik sighed. "Just a little game I have had in my mind for quite some time that I wish to play. Today is the perfect day for it. Well, good day, Commander. Continue the superb work that you do." Packbell had one last thought concerning Robotnik as he watched him leave: "That confounded fool is going to make one mistake too many, some day. I will be there, waiting." * * * It was very seldom that Dr. Ivo Robotnik was in a good mood. Most of the time he was too busy planning some new way to add to the monoliths of Robotropolis, or he was finding something to destroy in frustration over a defeat at the hands of the Freedom Fighters. Today, however, was different. The factories that he had ordered rebuilt were now finished, a full three days earlier than scheduled, and now it appeared that some Freedom Fighter plan had been thwarted, for they had managed to capture one of them, and there had been no negative consequences. Yes, today was truly a good day. And when Robotnik was in a good mood, he had the potential to become more evil than even Packbell dared to hypothesize. It was quite fortunate, he thought to himself now, as he looked over the files that he had read and reread so much, that the prisoner was a fox. This made the game that he was about to play that much more enjoyable. "Swat-bots, bring the prisoner in." Tolouse was brought into the room, and ordered to take a seat next to Robotnik's workstation. "Greetings, prisoner. You know, I think we are going to get to know each other very well today, and I would prefer to have something else to call you. What should that be?" Tolouse looked at him in fright, but didn't know what else he could say. "T-Tolouse," he stammered. "Tolouse. Pleased to have you in my company...if only for a short while." Robotnik chuckled evilly. Then, he looked at the text that filled the workstation's monitor. "Tolouse, how familiar are you with Mobian history?" "I-I'm not...I..." "Oh do not worry, I would not kill you simply for that. Here. Allow me to enrich your mind. Did you know that, according to most research, foxes were the first species on Mobius to evolve into sentient beings?" Tolouse was too scared even to shake his head. What was going on here? Robotnik continued. "This, according to theory, occured nearly 3 and a half million years ago. I could go into the fascinating details that these files provide for each stage of evolution, but I do not see any need to fill your head with such useless information. However, one could begin to think that this is possibly the reason why foxes are the most populous of all the species on this planet, don't you think? Perhaps this is also why one got to be king of all civilization...if only for a few short months." Robotnik chuckled again, then continued with his lecture. "Now, what I will tell you next intrigues me even more. This same research that says foxes were Mobius's first intellegent animals, also says that humans were the last. Foxes became sentient 3 and a half million years ago, and humans only 2 million years ago. Well, that does not seem the fairest thing in the world, now does it? We poor humans seem to have gotten the short end of the evolutionary stick! Perhaps that is why humans like me intend to...make up for it, hmm?" Robotnik laughed and looked at Tolouse, who by now sat still with a dazed expression on his face, continuing to prepare for the worst, and continuing to see the worst put off by events he could not begin to comprehend. Robotnik was enjoying himself. But, he thought to himself, the best is yet to come. He typed in a command, and a new page of text appeared on the monitor. "Now, here is where it gets even more fascinating. During that time when your ancestors were apparently intelligent, but mine were not, there was an interesting practice that many ancient foxes took part in. It seems that when a group of foxes got together and decided they all wanted some excitement, they would find some poor unsuspecting animal, force it to run around while they chased it, and then finally corner and kill it. This was known simply as, The Hunt. And you know what? More often than not, the animals they hunted like this were the direct ancestors of humans! "Well, you can imagine how...unfair I thought all this was when I first read it. Imagine, a gang of foxes attacking a single, defenseless human. It makes me want to find some way to justify it all, to avenge those ancestors of mine who were wrongfully killed in this manner. And so, Tolouse, with your help, I plan on doing just that. You will represent your ancestors, and I will represent mine, in a new twist on the Hunt, which I shall call the Fox-Hunt. You will be the hunted, and I will be the hunter. Tell me, does this not sound like a great game to play, for not only does it pass the time, it also corrects the wrongs that out ancestors experienced so long ago. And..." Robotnik leaned forward and gave Tolouse a deep look that Packbell would have been impressed with. "I am sure that you find this much more appealing than...the roboticizer." Robotnik searched Tolouse's dazed face for a reaction, and finally got one. Tolouse fainted dead away. to be continued -- *******Robin Hood (Kris Kelley) gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu***************** * fnord-42-froinlaven-cowabunga-the truth is out there-get out-spin dash * * are you pondering what I'm pondering?-welcome to the next level-yars!! * * finish him!-i hope i've shown you how to treat a lady-i'm a character! * ************************************************************************** * "Don't care what people say / Just follow your own way." - Enigma * * "I'm not sure that the world would be ready for 2 of me!" - P. O'Toole * * "Life: Am I taking this too personally?" - me * ************************************************************************** From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 24 00:06:06 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA04067 for sonic-ll; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:06:04 -0400 Received: from anvil.gatech.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA04061 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:06:00 -0400 Received: from acmey.gatech.edu (acmey.gatech.edu [130.207.165.23]) by anvil.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA27163 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:09:49 -0400 From: gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu (Robin Hood) Received: (gt6005a@localhost) by acmey.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA20367 for sonic@sard.mv.net; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:09:48 -0400 Message-Id: <199504240409.AAA20367@acmey.gatech.edu> Subject: Run with the Fox, Part 6 To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:09:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 8930 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Run with the Fox A Sonic the Hedgehog Story by Kris Kelley This story is protected by copyright laws. Feel free to distribute this story, but the author does not allow any unauthorized alteration of the story or distribution for profit. Part 6. Tolouse was curled up into a ball, paralyzed with fear. He was in Robotnik's private transport, and they were headed towards the Great Unknown. Robotnik had waited until Tolouse woke up again, and then continued to explain his 'game'... "...The ancient foxes that played in The Hunt usually relied on their nose to find their prey. Unfortunately, humans cannot smell as well as foxes can, and I have yet to master such technology for the Swat-bots. So, just to make this as 'fair' as possible, I have decided on this." He fastened a small device to Tolouse's wrist, locking it. "This is a homing signal." He chuckled. "Don't worry, dear fox, it is not a very powerful one. I still have to know your general location for it to work. Think of it as my sense of smell. And...think of this," he said, displaying a hover-scooter, "as my legs. Those ancient foxes could run much faster than their poor prey, and I intend on making this Fox-Hunt as close to the original as possible." Robotnik laughed loudly, and Tolouse's jaw dropped in grim fear. His mind screamed, NO!! But his voice would not work, and he could only stare at Robotnik in helpless, fearful silence... Tolouse felt the vehicle slow to a stop, and then he heard Robotnik step out. Soon, the door to the cargo hold slid open, and Tolouse felt the afternoon sun. "Here we are, Tolouse. Let the Fox-Hunt begin!" A Swat-bot forced Tolouse out of the cargo hold, and he stood on the ground, his legs trembling. "All right, now. Off you go, my dear fox." Tolouse could only stare, his heart pounding and his mind hopelessly confused by panic. Robotnik glared at him. "I am giving you a head start, fox. USE IT!!!" Those last words got through, and Tolouse found himself tearing off into the Great Unknown, running as fast as he could. Robotnik snickered darkly, then, remembering to make this as 'fair' and as exciting as possible, put his robotic hand over his eyes. "One-Robotropolis, two-Robotropolis, three-Robotropolis..." * * * "Sally! Sally! Open up!" Bookshire pounded on Sally's door. Sally finally opened the door, and she looked at the out-of-breath raccoon. "Yes, Bookshire?" "I think...I think I found something!" he huffed. "Robotnik's private transport left about a half hour ago, headed towards the Great Unknown." "Yes?" "According to the transport logs, it carried Robotnik, a Swat-bot, and a 'nonroboticized fox'!" Sally's eyes flew open wide. "What? Was it Tolouse?" Bookshire shook his head, still breathing hard from running. "I don't know. It didn't say. But Sally, whoever it is, they need help!" "Right. Sonic?" Sally called back into her hut, and Sonic was suddenly beside her in the doorway. "What's up?" "Robotnik's in the Great Unknown, and according to Bookshire, he's got somebody there!" "Who? Tolouse?" "We don't know, but you must find whoever it is before Robotnik is... finished with them." "Right. I'm outta here!" "Wait! Do you have a---?" They heard Sonic's voice say, "I've got a ring." But it might have been an echo, because by the time they heard the voice, Sonic was nowhere to be seen. * * * Oh gods, help me, HELP ME!!! Tolouse was badly out of breath, and he was blinded both by the spots that danced in his vision and by the tears that were soaking the fur of his cheeks. Still, he kept running, knowing if he didn't, he would never run again. * * * Robotnik climbed onto the hover-scooter. "It is time to hunt!" * * * Sonic tore through the Great Forest, the trees passing above and around him in a brown and green blur. "I've got to get to the Great Unknown!" He took out the power ring and held it above his head. The energy coursed through his body, and his mind shouted, "Faster! Faster! FASTER!!" BOOM!!! * * * Tolouse felt the energy draining from his body, but he forced himself onward. His mind had ceased all conscious thought several minutes ago, but the fear was still there, instinctively telling him to run...run...run... All around him spread the desolate plains of the Great Unknown. * * * Robotnik began flying wider and wider circles around the transport's location, waiting for the tracking device to start signalling Tolouse's whereabouts. "You cannot hide forever, my dear fox." The tracking device began beeping. "Ah, good." He accelerated the hover-scooter, paying close attention to the device. * * * Tolouse collapsed, his body refusing to further. His chest heaved violently, his eyes were no longer working, and his body trembled from fear, exhaustion, and the cold, bitter winds of the Great Unknown. Why...why? * * * "HEDGEHOG, PRIORITY ONE! HEDGEHO---" The Swat-bot was soon lying in pieces on the ground. "Not today, metal-head, I've got a fox to rescue! Now...where is old 'Buttnik, anyways?" Sonic picked a direction, and soon was off, leaving Robotnik's transport vehicle and the dismantled Swat-bot behind. * * * Tolouse picked himself up, tried to run, and collapsed again about 20 feet from where he had been. His mind was trying to spur him on, but now there was another voice as well, a less optomistic voice. It's over, Tolouse. You tried...but it's over. * * * The device's beeping increased in frequency. "You are close, dear fox, and you are getting closer." Robotnik unlatched the laser rifle and held it one hand, his heart beating faster as he anticipated the climax of the Fox-Hunt. Yes, today is truly one of the best days I have had in a long time. * * * Tolouse refused to listen to that voice, and he tried to get up again. His legs refused to support him. Denying that fact, he made himself run, and managed to stumble forward in a combined run and crawl. I don't want to die like this! I don't want to die... * * * Sonic stood on a small incline, worried. Robotnik and whoever he had brought out here (It's Tolouse, I know it! It's Tolouse!) were nowhere to be seen. Suddenly, his eyes made out a small detail, close to the horizon. He took out the binoculars from his back-pack. "THERE HE IS!!" Instantly the incline was abandoned. * * * The device's beeping had virtually turned into a hum, and Robotnik began looking around the area. Soon, his eyes found something, and he grinned an evil grin. "There he is." The hover-scooter changed directions and homed in on what his eyes were dead-set on. * * * Tolouse looked behind him, and saw Robotnik approaching. It's over, Tolouse... No!! Gods, please, NOOOO!!!! * * * Robotnik stopped the hover-scooter and dismounted. Slowly, methodically, he stepped forward, raising the laser rifle until it was aiming at his target. "It was a pleasant hunt, dear fox. And now, the culmination..." * * * "Oh no you don't, 'Buttnik!" Sonic didn't waste any time. He slowed down just enough to be able to grab Tolouse, then, again taking out the power ring, he began putting as much distance between Tolouse and Robotnik as he could. * * * Robotnik thought his eyes had played a trick on him. One moment, the fox was laying on the ground in front of him, and the next, he was gone! And what was that streak of bl---? His mind found the answer before it even completed the question, and soon Robotnik was turning bright red in pure, furious anger. "NO!!! YOU...BLASTED...HEDGEHOG!!!" After that, he temporarily lost the ability to speak coherently. * * * Tolouse was unconscious in Sonic's arms, and in his dreaming mind, Robotnik's rifle was still aimed at his head, frozen in time... Those eyes, those piercing, red eyes... to be continued -- *******Robin Hood (Kris Kelley) gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu***************** * fnord-42-froinlaven-cowabunga-the truth is out there-get out-spin dash * * are you pondering what I'm pondering?-welcome to the next level-yars!! * * finish him!-i hope i've shown you how to treat a lady-i'm a character! * ************************************************************************** * "Don't care what people say / Just follow your own way." - Enigma * * "I'm not sure that the world would be ready for 2 of me!" - P. O'Toole * * "Life: Am I taking this too personally?" - me * ************************************************************************** From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 24 00:06:26 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA04090 for sonic-ll; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:06:23 -0400 Received: from anvil.gatech.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA04085 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:06:20 -0400 Received: from acmey.gatech.edu (acmey.gatech.edu [130.207.165.23]) by anvil.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA27229 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:10:09 -0400 From: gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu (Robin Hood) Received: (gt6005a@localhost) by acmey.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA20407 for sonic@sard.mv.net; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:10:07 -0400 Message-Id: <199504240410.AAA20407@acmey.gatech.edu> Subject: Run with the Fox, Part 7 To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:10:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 4929 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Run with the Fox A Sonic the Hedgehog Story by Kris Kelley This story is protected by copyright laws. Feel free to distribute this story, but the author does not allow any unauthorized alteration of the story or distribution for profit. Part 7. An ear-splitting scream filled the room. Sonic, Sally, and Bookshire turned around to see Tolouse sitting up, eyes shut tight and voice in full volume, in utter terror. "Tolouse! Tolouse! You're okay, Tolouse!" All three crowded around him, trying to stop the violent convulsions of his body. "Tolouse, calm down! You're safe! You're safe!" Slowly, agonizingly slowly, Tolouse's trembling ceased, and his eyes opened wide with shock. He looked around, not recognizing anything. Sonic leaned over. "Tolouse! It's me Sonic, your buddy! Your okay, pal!" Sonic...Sonic...oh, gods!! Tolouse seized Sonic and hugged him tightly, sobbing uncontrollably. Sally breathed a sigh of relief, and Bookshire nodded. "He'll be okay," he whispered to her. Tolouse refused to let Sonic go, and he cried non-stop for the next half-hour. * * * Two days later, Tolouse visited Sally's hut for a talk. "I am sorry, Tolouse. I..." She hesitated. "I don't know if I can say anything that will comfort you. Everybody at this village has a story to tell, about the pain they have suffered and the loss that they have experienced at the hands of Robotnik. Mostly it has been common understanding that comforts us. No words need be spoken." Tolouse nodded. The words were slow in coming out of him as well. "I...I have been doing a lot of thinking..." "And?" Most of the fear had subsided, but uncertainty had taken its place. "Since...I got caught and the mission had to be aborted...I was wondering...am I still...a Freedom Fighter?" "Oh, Tolouse," Sally said gently, shaking her head and smiling. "You warned us at the plant when there was danger. Because of that, Sonic and Bunnie were able to get out of the plant before they were seen. I couldn't have asked for a better job from you. You are an honorable Freedom Fighter. But, Tolouse..." Tolouse looked up. "Having seen...what you have," she spoke, her voice almost a whisper, "I am concerned for you. Your experiences are very unique, and you have seen first-hand just how demented Robotnik is. I must ask: Do you wish to continue on as a Freedom Fighter?" Tolouse sat in silence, thinking. Sally nodded. "You don't have to answer today, and if you say no, there isn't a soul in this village who would blame you." But Tolouse had already made up his mind. He stood up and said in a voice with new-found confidence, "Sally, I wish to go on as a Freedom Fighter. I have dedicated my life to it." Sally looked back at him. "Are you sure?" "I am very sure." "Very well." She smiled broadly. "I did not want to say this before I knew for sure, but I am very glad that you will continue with us. You have more than proven yourself to the cause." Tolouse exhaled with relief. "Thank you, Sally." "Thank you, Tolouse. Now go on, scoot. Make sure Sonic isn't making a nuisance of himself somewhere." She giggled. Tolouse smiled, "Okay." As he closed the door to her hut, a shiver ran through his body. Those eyes, those piercing, red eyes... He shook his head, clearing it. That is in the past now, he told himself. And I am still alive, and I am still going to fight! "Y'all 'right, sugar?" Tolouse looked up and saw Bunnie standing a few feet away. "I'm fine, Bunnie. I am fine." * * * Let us live to tell our story Here on Earth and out in space Forward on the road to glory History records the chase! Across the ice of frozen lakes, run with the fox. Along the lanes a lover takes, run with the fox. Beneath the moon, a Christmas moon, run with the fox. And sing a tune, a lover's tune, run with the fox. Across the Bridge of Many Ways, run with the fox. Onto the plains where dreamers play, run with the fox. ---The End. The saga will continue, in "On My Mother's Grave". -- *******Robin Hood (Kris Kelley) gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu***************** * fnord-42-froinlaven-cowabunga-the truth is out there-get out-spin dash * * are you pondering what I'm pondering?-welcome to the next level-yars!! * * finish him!-i hope i've shown you how to treat a lady-i'm a character! * ************************************************************************** * "Don't care what people say / Just follow your own way." - Enigma * * "I'm not sure that the world would be ready for 2 of me!" - P. O'Toole * * "Life: Am I taking this too personally?" - me * ************************************************************************** From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 24 08:19:56 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id IAA05519 for sonic-ll; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:19:45 -0400 Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id IAA05514 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:19:39 -0400 Received: from edmund (edmund.cs.andrews.edu) by peter.cs.andrews.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27395; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:23:16 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (5.x) id AA25416; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:23:17 -0400 Message-Id: <9504241223.AA25416@edmund> Subject: Re: New pic - Sally To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:23:16 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "Erich Schulman" at Apr 23, 95 00:41:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net > > For you those of you who can run DOS programs (ie, not to forget OS/2 and > SoftPC users), I've got two programs that can be used to convert .GIF > images to ASCII. Both will require some experimentation with each image > to get satisfactory results. Both programs are small, and both are > free. If anyone is interested in getting these programs, please let me know. > > |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| > I'll take one of those! Daniel J. Drazen drazen@andrews.edu "The dead have risen and are voting Republican!" Bart Simpson From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 24 08:44:12 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id IAA05629 for sonic-ll; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:44:11 -0400 Received: from ns.ge.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id IAA05624 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:44:08 -0400 Received: from engr.erie.ge.com ([3.14.4.3]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id IAA29123 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:48:03 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 8:48:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Ron Bauerle To: sonic@sard.mv.net CC: BAUERLE@engr.erie.ge.com Message-Id: <950424084801.555e@engr.erie.ge.com> Subject: Re: New pic - Sally Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2" >On Sat, 22 Apr 1995, Ron Bauerle wrote: >> Is anybody interested in an ASCII and/or ANSI pic of Sally? Both were >> posted to the Fidonet Toons echo, and while I didn't think they were that >> great, if anybody wants them I can send them out... >Go ahead and post them. I think someone did before ask about getting >other Sonic ASCII art, other than the one that appears at the top of >faq-dd. I'll attach the ASCII one at the end of this message. >As many of us use VT-100 terminals on the 'net, you might want >to UUencode any ANSI images so no one's screen will get messed up by the >different control codes. This isn't a binaries list, but short, >infrequent posts of ANSI art shouldn't be much of a problem for anyone here. I suspect just uploading it from my PC to my VAX and downloading it to the UNIX system here at work have messed it up, but tonight I'll try to uuencode it and see what happens. (Anybody know how to view ANSI on a Unix system?) Message #288 - Cartoons and Animation (CONV) Date: 18-Apr-95 01:46:00 From: Sean Andersen To: All Subject: Princess Sally ÿ@UNEWSGR:F-TOONS N Here's a nice cheapo picture I did. 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I have the whole body drafted out, but decided to do the head instead. This is a very idea what the Sally ansi and Sally gif which will be alot better (I'm hoping :) ) then this one. Enjoy!!! -=[Sneakers]=- Within the mind of the fox --- QScan v1.067b * Origin: Viking's Cove BBS * Trenton ON (1:249/304) Message #325 - Cartoons and Animation (CONV) Date: 20-Apr-95 20:55:04 From: Andrew German To: Sean Andersen Subject: Re: Princess Sally Ascii Who's Princess Sally? Peregrin Looking for something to believe in. --- Renegade v10-05 Exp * Origin: Moon Base Tycho, Rosedale Md (410)391-6291 (1:261/1303) (I thought about flaming this guy, but decided to let somebody else do it :^)) RDB From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 24 10:53:49 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id KAA11848 for sonic-ll; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 10:53:39 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id KAA11843 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 10:53:36 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) id KAA20382; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 10:51:19 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 10:51:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2" To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: New pic - Sally In-Reply-To: <950424084801.555e@engr.erie.ge.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Mon, 24 Apr 1995, Ron Bauerle wrote: > uuencode it and see what happens. (Anybody know how to view ANSI on a Unix > system?) You'll need a termcap file that describes the ANSI terminal type in a way that the Unix system can understand. Then you enter a command to change your terminal type to ANSI. I can poke around this system and one other Unix system I have access to, and hopefully I'll find a ANSI termcap. If not, I know two others who use two more Unix systems, and one of those might have the termcap. ANSI and VT-10x are fairly similar, so a ANSI file might be viewable anyway, but I'd rather not chance it if I were posting ANSI files here. |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| | A! JW2 WAR++ PI~ BR+i SL++++i SK+++ RI++^ RU+ GDF BU+ MI- MM KK-- | | P++ D $++ E59 Ee5 Eee35 TRita Ay68 M | | "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog | |-- A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! ------------------------------| From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 24 11:47:58 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id LAA12118 for sonic-ll; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 11:47:57 -0400 Received: from holodeck.cc.vt.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id LAA12113 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 11:47:54 -0400 Message-Id: <199504241547.LAA12113@sard.mv.net> Received: from jpegnato.async.vt.edu by holodeck.cc.vt.edu with SMTP (8.6.10/16.2) id LAA23264; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 11:51:50 -0400 X-Sender: jpegnato@mail.vt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 11:52:19 +0600 To: sonic@sard.mv.net From: jpegnato@vt.edu (Jeffrey Pegnato) Subject: Re: Run with the Fox, Part 0 X-Mailer: Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >Run with the Fox >A Sonic the Hedgehog story >by Kris Kelley Good story! I really enjoy these fanfic works which keep in tune with the emotional themes that the show portrayed. This story gives a new, horrifying perspective of Robuttnik that is just amazing! It also had an interresting piece of evolution thrown in...no spoilers here, just read it! Can't wait for the next part! >---Kris, who's getting just a little bit tired with all the "alternative" > pictures. What do you mean "alternative"? Or have I missed seeing something? ***"When you are courting a nice girl an hour seems like a second. When you sit on a red-hot cinder a second seems like an hour. That's relativity."*** - Albert Einstein Working hard to destroy stupidity everywhere... Jeffrey Pegnato jpegnato@vt.edu From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 24 12:08:20 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA14294 for sonic-ll; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 12:08:04 -0400 Received: from holodeck.cc.vt.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA14289 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 12:08:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199504241608.MAA14289@sard.mv.net> Received: from jpegnato.async.vt.edu by holodeck.cc.vt.edu with SMTP (8.6.10/16.2) id MAA00770; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 12:11:56 -0400 X-Sender: jpegnato@mail.vt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 12:12:26 +0600 To: sonic@sard.mv.net From: jpegnato@vt.edu (Jeffrey Pegnato) Subject: Enough is enough... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net I just read a few messages (flames, really) in my E-mail & on the Usenet which I am really unhappy about... This post is a response to those messages & E-mails... I honestly couldn't believe the poor responses I got to this simple bit 'o creativity. So to all those who care: my views on the Princess & why... What in the name of Mobius is going on here!?! The drawing "SALLYFOX.GIF" was a response to the long running discussion about Princess Sally's species. I personally am of the mind-set that she is a fox, thus, I thought she would look good with a nice, long tail. Now I know all you comic book fans love to boast that she is specifically referred to as a "ground squirrel", but I for one have realized that the show and comic book have nothing to do with each other! There are inconsistencies between the two (discussed at nauseam) which can only be reconciled if you think of the show, comic book, (and any other Sonic writing) as separate stories with the same basic characters. Each media is like looking through different "windows" to Mobius, as another 'net Freedom Fighter put it. With that in mind, Think of the SatAM Sonic show. Now, it puzzles me a great deal as to WHY the artists/animators/writers would have made Sally's father a FOX if she herself was not one. This makes no logical sense to me. I think it is fairly obvious that SOMEONE on the design team thought Sally was a fox if they drew her father as one. In response to the realization that Sally's father is a fox (on the show) alot of interesting theories suddenly popped up: "Her mother was a ground squirrel" and "she was adopted" are my personal favorites. Also, a couple of new terms evolved: "Mobian biology" and "cartoon genetics" are my favs from that bunch. All in all, I see this as alot of creative B.S. which attempts a rational explanation to this dilemma in species. Of course, since there is no hint of species on the show, NO ONE (save maybe the artist him/herself) can argue this point. (and since the show was canceled, this will never be resolved.) So put away your torches and flame-throwers and save them for someone who really deserves it. As I said, it doesn't make any logical sense to me for Sally to be a ground squirrel, but to each his own. I'm done arguing this point and can accept that some people still like her as a ground squirrel. If you don't like what I drew, erase it, but don't bug me about it. If you disagree with me, fine, but realize also that you may be the one who is wrong... Net Freedom Fighter and keeper of at least one iconoclastic view, Jeffrey Pegnato From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 24 14:59:29 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA18933 for sonic-ll; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 14:59:12 -0400 Received: from mailhost.primenet.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA18928 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 14:59:10 -0400 Received: from ip034.phx.primenet.com (ip034.phx.primenet.com [198.68.46.34]) by mailhost.primenet.com (8.6.11/wjp-h2.0) with SMTP id MAA06893 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 12:03:00 -0700 Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 12:03:00 -0700 Message-Id: <199504241903.MAA06893@mailhost.primenet.com> X-Sender: rotor@mailhost.primenet.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sonic@sard.mv.net From: rotor@PrimeNet.Com (David M. Pistone) Subject: Run with the Fox Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Great story! The characters were wonderfully portrayed and the story line was very involving. I look foward to your next story (which I already know a little about from talking to a certain person on FT) Hey, Kris, could you send me a complete copy in one mail message? It would make it a lot easier for my to post it to my WWW page if I didn't have to do all the cutting and pasting to the 8 parts you have there. See ya'! From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 24 16:07:00 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id QAA19545 for sonic-ll; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 16:06:57 -0400 Received: from anvil.gatech.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id QAA19540 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 16:06:55 -0400 Received: from acmey.gatech.edu (acmey.gatech.edu [130.207.165.23]) by anvil.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA08416 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 16:10:52 -0400 From: gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu (Robin Hood) Received: (gt6005a@localhost) by acmey.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA04657 for sonic@sard.mv.net; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 16:10:52 -0400 Message-Id: <199504242010.QAA04657@acmey.gatech.edu> Subject: Re: Run with the Fox To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 16:10:52 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <199504241903.MAA06893@mailhost.primenet.com> from "David M. Pistone" at Apr 24, 95 12:03:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1050 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net > Hey, Kris, could you send me a complete copy in one mail message? It would > make it a lot easier for my to post it to my WWW page if I didn't have to do > all the cutting and pasting to the 8 parts you have there. > > Will do, and I still promise to get my "Racso" to you as well. I might even have some time to do it this evening. Let us hope :). later---Kris -- *******Robin Hood (Kris Kelley) gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu***************** * fnord-42-froinlaven-cowabunga-the truth is out there-get out-spin dash * * are you pondering what I'm pondering?-welcome to the next level-yars!! * * finish him!-i hope i've shown you how to treat a lady-i'm a character! * ************************************************************************** * "Don't care what people say / Just follow your own way." - Enigma * * "I'm not sure that the world would be ready for 2 of me!" - P. O'Toole * * "Life: Am I taking this too personally?" - me * ************************************************************************** From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 24 17:03:59 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id RAA19985 for sonic-ll; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:03:55 -0400 Received: from sonic.segaoa.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id RAA19973 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:03:52 -0400 Received: from blackhole.segaoa.com by sonic.segaoa.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA06011; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 14:08:20 +0800 Received: by blackhole.segaoa.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F9C12FB@blackhole.segaoa.com>; Mon, 24 Apr 95 14:07:07 PDT From: "Wallis, Mike" To: Sonic mailing list Subject: RE>: all ye non-believers, I'm back... Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 14:05:00 PDT Message-Id: <2F9C12FB@blackhole.segaoa.com> Encoding: 21 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 content-length: 724 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >> I'm curious about exactly who created Sonic in the first place. >> Did Sonic appear anywhere before the Sonic 1 game? >I'm curious as well. Oh, Miiiiike... (:3 Sonic was created at Sega of Japan mostly by Hirokazu Yasuhara. Since then, he has come out to Sega of America to work in the STI group on Sonic 2, Sonic 3, and Sonic & Knuckles. So, before the Sonic 1 Sega Genesis game, there was no Sonic. (Just like before "Steamboat Mickey," there was no Mickey Mouse.) > What I'd like to know is how he manages to rotate his tails without > getting them wrapped around each other. It's just magical the way he > does that. :-) I like the response of Tails having a rotator cuff in his butt. Hehe... -Mike From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 24 17:20:28 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id RAA20036 for sonic-ll; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:20:26 -0400 Received: from anvil.gatech.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id RAA20031 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:20:24 -0400 Received: from acmez.gatech.edu (acmez.gatech.edu [130.207.165.24]) by anvil.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA21140 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:24:22 -0400 From: gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu (Robin Hood) Received: (gt6005a@localhost) by acmez.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA03268 for sonic@sard.mv.net; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:24:22 -0400 Message-Id: <199504242124.RAA03268@acmez.gatech.edu> Subject: Re: Run with the Fox To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:24:21 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <199504242010.QAA04657@acmey.gatech.edu> from "Robin Hood" at Apr 24, 95 04:10:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 846 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Sorry about that. I was under the impression that message was mailed to me personally, so I blindly "replied" to it. David, I'm sure you got that :). later---Kris -- *******Robin Hood (Kris Kelley) gt6005a@prism.gatech.edu***************** * fnord-42-froinlaven-cowabunga-the truth is out there-get out-spin dash * * are you pondering what I'm pondering?-welcome to the next level-yars!! * * finish him!-i hope i've shown you how to treat a lady-i'm a character! * ************************************************************************** * "Don't care what people say / Just follow your own way." - Enigma * * "I'm not sure that the world would be ready for 2 of me!" - P. O'Toole * * "Life: Am I taking this too personally?" - me * ************************************************************************** From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 24 17:26:42 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id RAA20081 for sonic-ll; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:26:41 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id RAA20075; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:26:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:26:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: RE>: all ye non-believers, I'm back... In-Reply-To: <2F9C12FB@blackhole.segaoa.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Mon, 24 Apr 1995, Wallis, Mike wrote: > So, before the Sonic 1 Sega Genesis game, there was no Sonic. (Just like > before "Steamboat Mickey," there was no Mickey Mouse.) Oh, I gotta say it. It was "Steamboat Willie". Mickey came later. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work: paul@mv.mv.com | Play: rat@rat.mv.com WWW : http://www.mv.com/users/rat | FTP : ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat AOL : PaulHurley | CIS : 75014,77 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Mon Apr 24 19:54:25 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id TAA20695 for sonic-ll; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 19:54:08 -0400 Received: from luey.cadvision.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id TAA20690 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 19:54:06 -0400 Received: from cad210.cadvision.com by luey.cadvision.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.04.tri.dcx) id AA44638; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:59:20 -0600 Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:59:20 -0600 Message-Id: <9504242359.AA44638@luey.cadvision.com> From: "Craig Hickey" To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: all ye non-believers, I'm back... Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >> What I'd like to know is how he manages to rotate his tails without >> getting them wrapped around each other. It's just magical the way he >> does that. :-) They probably go in opposite directions... From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 25 08:27:58 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id IAA23049 for sonic-ll; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 08:27:34 -0400 Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id IAA23044 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 08:27:27 -0400 Received: from edmund (edmund.cs.andrews.edu) by peter.cs.andrews.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26542; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 08:31:31 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (5.x) id AA17166; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 08:31:28 -0400 Message-Id: <9504251231.AA17166@edmund> Subject: Chaos To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 08:31:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Greetings: I'm starting to do research for a Sonic apocalypse story (i.e., how Robotnik is defeated once and for all and everything is put right). I find, however, that I'd like as much information as possible on the Chaos Emeralds and any other Chaos elements in the Sonic story (...before I go about making up my own ;-) ). I know the Chaos Emeralds figured in the original miniseries but I don't know how. I need info on size, properties, origin...in short, ANYTHING! We now return you to your regularly scheduled rodent. ================================================================ || ___------__ || || |\__-- /\ _- || Daniel J. Drazen || | / __ _ || drazen@andrews.edu || //\ / \ /__ || || | o| 0|__ --_ || Custodian of one of the Sonic || \\____-- __ \ ___ - || the Hedgehog FAQ Files || (@@ __/ / /_ || || -_____--- --_ || ASCII Sonic by Han J. Lee ================================================================ From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 25 15:50:52 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id PAA27417 for sonic-ll; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:50:00 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id PAA27412 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:49:58 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) id PAA11037; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:47:53 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:47:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2" To: Post Sonic Subject: .GIF to ASCII converters Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net (These files are pending approval.) I have uploaded to the ftp site the two .GIF to ASCII converters I said I have in a previous post. I originally got both of them from the Graphics SIG on Delphi (GO MAIN COM GRA), and neither had documentation files. Once posted, they will be found at ftp.mv.com, tentatively at /pub/users/rat/sonic/pc. Both programs are for DOS. Now that the tools are available, maybe we can make some more Sonic (and Tails!) ASCII art. If anyone on the list has TheDraw, why not try some ANSI art and ANSI animations? If no one on the list has it, I can upload it too. (TheDraw is also a DOS program.) |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| | A! JW2 WAR++ PI~ BR+i SL++++i SK+++ RI++^ RU+ GDF BU+ MI- MM KK-- | | P++ D $++ E59 Ee5 Eee35 TRita Ay68 M | | "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog | |-- A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! ------------------------------| From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 25 16:08:07 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id QAA27601 for sonic-ll; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 16:08:06 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id QAA27595; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 16:08:04 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 16:08:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: .GIF to ASCII converters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Tue, 25 Apr 1995, Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2 wrote: > (These files are pending approval.) Approved. host: ftp.mv.com directory: /pub/users/rat/pc/ ascgif.exe gifsci21.exe --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work: paul@mv.mv.com | Play: rat@rat.mv.com WWW : http://www.mv.com/users/rat | FTP : ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat AOL : PaulHurley | CIS : 75014,77 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 25 17:30:45 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id RAA28105 for sonic-ll; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 17:30:37 -0400 Received: from saul1.u.washington.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id RAA28100 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 17:30:34 -0400 Received: by saul1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26149; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:34:43 -0700 X-Sender: lazuli@saul1.u.washington.edu Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:34:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Sloniker To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: Chaos In-Reply-To: <9504251231.AA17166@edmund> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Tue, 25 Apr 1995, Dan Drazen wrote: [A request for information on the Chaos Emeralds.] I can't help you as far as the SatAM series (though I don't think the Emeralds ever showed up) or the US comic (haven't seen an issue with them in it), but I *can* tell you about the games, and my own personal theory about them... ___ In Sonic 1, there were six Chaos Emeralds that could be collected / _ \ throughout the game; they came in assorted colors (these colors / / \ \ have varied from game to game; if you're interested, I'll make a \ \_/ / list) and were shaped something like the ASCII art to the left. \___/ Collecting all six didn't do anything special, except for making a better end to the game (Sonic throws them into the air, there's a flash, and all the plants and stuff are de-robotisized). In the Special Stage, they were about half as big as Sonic, but in the end sequence they're shown to be about hand-sized. (Perhaps the Special Stage distorts spatial relationships?) In Sonic 2, there were seven Chaos Emeralds, of the same shape and size(s), and collecting all seven allowed Sonic to turn into Super Sonic, a nearly indestructible yellow speed demon. (Obviously, neither Sonic nor 'Buttnik found the seventh one the first time around.) Tails was unable to harness the Emeralds' power. In Sonic 3, the Emeralds were pretty much identical to those in Sonic 2 (the color choices may have been different, I don't know), though Super Sonic was powered down a little (made slower, mainly, which is actually an advantage; I've never bothered to get all the Emeralds legitimately in Sonic 2 because Super Sonic there is too hard to control). Similarly, in Sonic & Knuckles alone there were no changes (though Knuckles now becomes Super Knuckles, a flashing pink echidna who climbs faster and runs as fast as Sonic usually does). ______ /_/__\_\ In Sonic 3 & Knuckles, the first seven Emeralds are still identical \ \ / / to those in Sonic 2, but when the S&K portion of the game is \ \/ / entered, a warp to the Hidden Palace Zone is found. There, the \ / Chaos Emeralds are 'planted', making giant gray Emeralds that are \/ nearly as big as Sonic. Subsequent forays into the Special Stage uncover the seven Super Emeralds, which in that stage are still half-Sonic-sized; each one found lights up its counterpart in the 'real world'. When all seven are lit, the Master Emerald, an even bigger (fully Sonic-sized) green gem, lights up, making Sonic Hyper Sonic (a flashing yellow hedgehog who shoots sparks off his body, runs very fast, and can kill most enemies on screen at will, not to mention rocket in any direction in mid-air), Knuckles Hyper Knuckles (flashes pink with afterimages, moves even faster, and can kill enemies by pounding a wall and making the screen shake), and Tails Super Tails (flashes white and his usual orange, flies faster, runs faster, and is attended by four 'bluebirds' (who actually match his coloration) that kill enemies on their own initiative). Sonic CD doesn't have Chaos Emeralds, but instead has Time Gems; they look the same, but instead of allowing him to become Super Sonic, they negate Robotnik's presence in the past of the Little Planet, allowing a good ending. I haven't seen Knuckles Chaotix yet, and don't know anything about the Game Gear versions, except that some of them, I'm told, have the Emeralds hidden on the level instead of in some special stage. I hope this was in some way helpful! (:3 ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer lazuli@u.washington.edu "Anyone who beats you up for wearing a shirt isn't your friend." --Marge From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 25 17:55:37 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id RAA28256 for sonic-ll; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 17:55:36 -0400 Received: from hubcap.clemson.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id RAA28251 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 17:55:33 -0400 Received: (pgettle@localhost) by hubcap.clemson.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) id SAA04833; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 18:00:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 18:00:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Gettle To: sonic@sard.mv.net cc: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: Chaos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Also, the Chaos Emeralds from Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles were in the shape of doedecahedrons. (12 pentagonal sides) This is probably how they originally envisioned them, but their graphics werent as good in the earlier versions of the game. The 3-d graphics of the latest Sonic's special stages allowed them to render the emerald as polyheadral. -- Paul Gettle (pgettle@hubcap.clemson.edu) "You're wrong. I'm right. As usual." -- Princess Sally "Caution: Happy Fun Fox may suddenly acclerate to dangerous speeds. Do not taunt Happy Fun Fox" -- Disclaimer From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 25 17:57:55 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id RAA28279 for sonic-ll; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 17:57:54 -0400 Received: from ns2.ac.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id RAA28274 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 17:57:51 -0400 Received: from jaguar.ac.edu by ns2.ac.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29604; Tue, 25 Apr 95 18:07:17 EDT Received: by jaguar.ac.edu (wcGATE v4) id 32315W Tue, 25 Apr 1995 21:58:05 GMT From: rhaynie@jaguar.ac.edu (Robert Haynie) Subject: Nothin... Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 21:27:01 GMT Message-Id: <95042517580627635@jaguar.ac.edu> Organization: Augusta College, Augusta GA To: sonic@sard.mv.net Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Just making sure the ML don't drop... From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 25 18:39:45 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id SAA28512 for sonic-ll; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 18:39:30 -0400 Received: from saul5.u.washington.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id SAA28507 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 18:39:28 -0400 Received: by saul5.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13323; Tue, 25 Apr 95 15:43:40 -0700 X-Sender: lazuli@saul5.u.washington.edu Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:43:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Sloniker To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: all ye non-believers, I'm back... In-Reply-To: <9504242359.AA44638@luey.cadvision.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Mon, 24 Apr 1995, Craig Hickey wrote: > >> What I'd like to know is how he manages to rotate his tails without > >> getting them wrapped around each other. It's just magical the way he > >> does that. :-) > > They probably go in opposite directions... That would also explain why he doesn't spin in little circles when he takes off. (:3 ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer lazuli@u.washington.edu FUN (n): The passage of time in a profitless and non-practical way. --Kryten From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 25 21:05:38 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id VAA29161 for sonic-ll; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 21:05:27 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id VAA29156 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 21:05:25 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) id VAA22827; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 21:03:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 21:03:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2" To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: all ye non-believers, I'm back... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Tue, 25 Apr 1995, Fred Sloniker wrote: > On Mon, 24 Apr 1995, Craig Hickey wrote: > > > >> What I'd like to know is how he manages to rotate his tails without > > >> getting them wrapped around each other. It's just magical the way he > > >> does that. :-) > > > > They probably go in opposite directions... > > That would also explain why he doesn't spin in little circles when he > takes off. (:3 Does anyone on the list have a really good VCR and video system? Or maybe access to the equipment at their school's Radio/TV department? If someone does and plays a tape of Tails flying and studies it one frame at a time, some light just might get shed on the subject. My equipment isn't up to the job, so I really don't know what you'll find if anyone decides to try this. If you do try it, don't forget to post your findings here :-) |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| | A! JW2 WAR++ PI~ BR+i SL++++i SK+++ RI++^ RU+ GDF BU+ MI- MM KK-- | | P++ D $++ E59 Ee5 Eee35 TRita Ay68 M | | "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog | |-- A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! ------------------------------| From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Tue Apr 25 21:48:36 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id VAA29214 for sonic-ll; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 21:48:34 -0400 Received: from hubcap.clemson.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id VAA29209 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 21:48:31 -0400 Received: (pgettle@localhost) by hubcap.clemson.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) id VAA00179; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 21:53:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 21:53:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Gettle To: sonic@sard.mv.net cc: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: all ye non-believers, I'm back... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Tue, 25 Apr 1995, Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2 wrote: > Does anyone on the list have a really good VCR and video system? Or > maybe access to the equipment at their school's Radio/TV department? If > someone does and plays a tape of Tails flying and studies it one frame at a > time, some light just might get shed on the subject. My equipment isn't > up to the job, so I really don't know what you'll find if anyone decides > to try this. If you do try it, don't forget to post your findings here :-) Who needs a VCR? I've seen the first season enough times (I practically wore out my tape) that it's burned into my brain. UNfortunately, the only eppisode of the first season where Tails flew, was the one where the art looks more like the comic book used to (Heads or Tails, but I'm not sure that's the title). In that epp., Tails kinda hops in the air and hovers toonishly, rear held high, as he twists his two tails round each other clockwise, till their entwined up to the tip, where he goes helifox and flies off. -- Paul Gettle (pgettle@hubcap.clemson.edu) "You're wrong. I'm right. As usual" -- Princess Sally "Caution: Happy Fun Fox may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds Do not taunt Happy Fun Fox." -- Disclaimer From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Wed Apr 26 00:56:50 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA00216 for sonic-ll; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 00:56:33 -0400 Received: from saul4.u.washington.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA00211 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 00:56:31 -0400 Received: by saul4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28428; Tue, 25 Apr 95 22:00:45 -0700 X-Sender: lazuli@saul4.u.washington.edu Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 22:00:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Sloniker To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: all ye non-believers, I'm back... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Tue, 25 Apr 1995, Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2 wrote: > Does anyone on the list have a really good VCR and video system? Or > maybe access to the equipment at their school's Radio/TV department? If > someone does and plays a tape of Tails flying and studies it one frame at a > time, some light just might get shed on the subject. My equipment isn't The only time I've seen Tails fly on TV was when I happened to catch an episode of the weekday show. In that one, he pretty plainly spins them both around in the same direction; however, he also pretty plainly spins them in a way that couldn't possibly provide any lift (sort of like the box art on Sonic 3). In the games, his tails are replaced by a helicopter-blade-shaped blur. Maybe it's pixie dust. We all know the HFF is full of happy thoughts... (:3 ---Fred M. Sloniker, stressed undergrad L. Lazuli R'kamos, FurryMUCKer lazuli@u.washington.edu Jr ner rkcrevrapvat grpuavpny qvssvphygvrf. Cyrnfr fgnaq ol. From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Wed Apr 26 01:28:30 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id BAA00356 for sonic-ll; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 01:28:27 -0400 Received: from freenet.calgary.ab.ca by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id BAA00351 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 01:28:24 -0400 Received: from srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca by freenet.calgary.ab.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA60358; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 23:22:00 -0600 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 23:22:00 -0600 (MDT) From: "William T. Graham" To: sonic@sard.mv.net Cc: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Tails' heli-tails In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Tue, 25 Apr 1995, Erich Schulman wrote: > If someone does and plays a tape of Tails flying and studies it one frame > at a time, some light just might get shed on the subject. My equipment isn't > up to the job, so I really don't know what you'll find if anyone decides > to try this. If you do try it, don't forget to post your findings here :-) The pilot epiosode of "Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog" (namely "Super Special Sonic Search and Smash Squad") shows Tails flying quite clearly. While flying, he is drawn with 4 tails at 90 degrees to each other, each tail curving up at the end in an "S" shape, and all tails rotating in a clockwise direction (as viewed from above). The drawing in this episode is in the unmistakeable style of Scott Shaw!, with the same body-morphing technique seen in the Archie comic Sonic mini-series. Usually, Tails' heli-tails are just drawn as a blur. There is another "Adventures" episode ("Tails Prevails"(?)) in which Tails (accidentally) starts a cyclone vortex by twirling his tails, which wouldn't happen with counter-rotating tails. - William T. Graham, .net Freedom Fighter - From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Wed Apr 26 08:19:44 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id IAA01270 for sonic-ll; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 08:19:24 -0400 Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id IAA01265 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 08:19:18 -0400 Received: from edmund (edmund.cs.andrews.edu) by peter.cs.andrews.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27146; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 08:19:07 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (5.x) id AA27656; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 08:19:06 -0400 Message-Id: <9504261219.AA27656@edmund> Subject: Re: Chaos To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 08:19:05 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "Fred Sloniker" at Apr 25, 95 02:34:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Fred, Thanks for the info. I haven't encountered the CEs outside of the game, though the comics (esp. the initial miniseries) might have had something to say about them. I figure: if you're going to be apocalyptic, at least be canonical. We now return you to your regularly scheduled rodent. ================================================================ || ___------__ || || |\__-- /\ _- || Daniel J. Drazen || | / __ _ || drazen@andrews.edu || //\ / \ /__ || || | o| 0|__ --_ || Custodian of one of the Sonic || \\____-- __ \ ___ - || the Hedgehog FAQ Files || (@@ __/ / /_ || || -_____--- --_ || ASCII Sonic by Han J. Lee ================================================================ From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Wed Apr 26 13:11:37 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id NAA03406 for sonic-ll; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 13:11:25 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id NAA03395; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 13:11:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 13:11:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: sonic@sard.mv.net, kats@sard.mv.net Subject: lists were deleted! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net I accidently deleted all the mailing lists. But the last backup was last week. So the list of people on the list might not be current. Sorry about this guys. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work: paul@mv.mv.com | Play: rat@rat.mv.com WWW : http://www.mv.com/users/rat | FTP : ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat AOL : PaulHurley | CIS : 75014,77 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Wed Apr 26 14:41:39 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA04064 for sonic-ll; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 14:41:27 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA04059 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 14:41:24 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) id OAA20704; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 14:35:10 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 14:35:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2" To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: all ye non-believers, I'm back... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Tue, 25 Apr 1995, Fred Sloniker wrote: > The only time I've seen Tails fly on TV was when I happened to catch an > episode of the weekday show. In that one, he pretty plainly spins them > both around in the same direction; however, he also pretty plainly spins > them in a way that couldn't possibly provide any lift (sort of like the > box art on Sonic 3). In the games, his tails are replaced by a > helicopter-blade-shaped blur. You can see him fly (but not for long) in some of the second-season episodes of the Saturday series. One is just before Dulcy won't let Tails see Sonic while Sonic and Sally are doing experiments (the de-robiticizer) and they don't want to be disturbed. Another is when Tails gets a power ring so Sonic can get his memory back. (Did anyone notice that when Snively got zapped, his memory loss didn't last nearly as long as Sonic's memory loss?) |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| | A! JW2 WAR++ PI~ BR+i SL++++i SK+++ RI++^ RU+ GDF BU+ MI- MM KK-- | | P++ D $++ E59 Ee5 Eee35 TRita Ay68 M | | "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog | |-- A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! ------------------------------| From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Wed Apr 26 14:58:57 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA04311 for sonic-ll; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 14:58:57 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id OAA04305; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 14:58:55 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 14:58:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: all ye non-believers, I'm back... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Wed, 26 Apr 1995, Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2 wrote: > Tails gets a power ring so Sonic can get his memory back. (Did anyone > notice that when Snively got zapped, his memory loss didn't last nearly > as long as Sonic's memory loss?) Sonic had to be shocked with a power ring. Snivley was shocked out of it by fear. That's my theory. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Work: paul@mv.mv.com | Play: rat@rat.mv.com WWW : http://www.mv.com/users/rat | FTP : ftp://ftp.mv.com/pub/users/rat AOL : PaulHurley | CIS : 75014,77 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Wed Apr 26 22:47:14 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA06470 for sonic-ll; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 22:46:57 -0400 Received: from use.usit.net by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id WAA06464 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 22:46:55 -0400 Received: (from acme@localhost) by use.usit.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) id WAA07000; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 22:40:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 22:40:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2" To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: all ye non-believers, I'm back... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Wed, 26 Apr 1995, Ratman wrote: > Sonic had to be shocked with a power ring. > Snivley was shocked out of it by fear. That's my theory. I noticed the element of fear, but I never considered it as an explanation. I simply thought of that scene as a non sequitor. That does sound reasonable just the same. One could then expand the theory to suggest that any shock of sufficient magnitude would cure the victim's memory loss. We never did see the others return to normal, but we know that they did by the next episode. What would have brought them back to normal? We'll never know the correct answer, but we can always speculate about what went on between episodes. |-- Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) + Team OS/2 ---- acme@use.usit.net -----| | A! JW2 WAR++ PI~ BR+i SL++++i SK+++ RI++^ RU+ GDF BU+ MI- MM KK-- | | P++ D $++ E59 Ee5 Eee35 TRita Ay68 M | | "Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog | |-- A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius! ------------------------------| From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 28 00:09:05 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA17108 for sonic-ll; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 00:08:43 -0400 Received: from spot.Colorado.EDU by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id AAA17102 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 00:08:35 -0400 Received: from Freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU (freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU [140.226.1.8]) by spot.Colorado.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12/CNS-3.6) with ESMTP id WAA17366 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 22:08:33 -0600 Received: (from av643@localhost) by Freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU (8.6.8/8.6.6) id WAA17980; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 22:08:27 -0600 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 22:08:27 -0600 Message-Id: <199504280408.WAA17980@Freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU> From: av643@Freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU (Dan Ramos) To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: RE>: all ye non-believers, I'm back... Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net Mike, just a minor correction (but I'm so picky)... Mickey's first cartoon in 1938 wasn't "Steamboat Mickey" it was called "Steamboat Willie." This was aan animation that Walt E. Disney and Ub Iwekrs both worked on. (Sorry...big Disney archives fanatic...hadda nitpick). :) From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 28 13:37:16 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id NAA20084 for sonic-ll; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 13:35:00 -0400 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id NAA20078; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 13:34:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 13:34:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: RE>: all ye non-believers, I'm back... (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net he goofed again I think. He meant to send this to the list. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 28 Apr 95 09:38:00 PDT From: Wallis, Mike To: owner-sonic Subject: Re: RE>: all ye non-believers, I'm back... I know, I know... I typed that up quickly, realized the mistake after the message went through the gateway, and have received mail about it... Haha! That's it, I quit. :) -Mike ---------- From: owner-sonic To: sonic Subject: Re: RE>: all ye non-believers, I'm back... Date: Thursday, April 27, 1995 10:08PM Mike, just a minor correction (but I'm so picky)... Mickey's first cartoon in 1938 wasn't "Steamboat Mickey" it was called "Steamboat Willie." This was aan animation that Walt E. Disney and Ub Iwekrs both worked on. (Sorry...big Disney archives fanatic...hadda nitpick). :) From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Fri Apr 28 20:10:26 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id UAA21849 for sonic-ll; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 20:10:21 -0400 Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id UAA21844 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 20:09:49 -0400 Received: from edmund (edmund.cs.andrews.edu) by peter.cs.andrews.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA20510; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 20:09:37 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (5.x) id AA18689; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 20:09:33 -0400 Message-Id: <9504290009.AA18689@edmund> Subject: Sonic FAQ File To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 20:09:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net ___------__ |\__-- /\ _- |/ __ _ //\ / \ /__ | o| 0|__ --_ \\____-- __ \ ___ - (@@ __/ / /_ -_____--- --_ // \ \\ - //|\__/ \\ ___- \_-\_____/ \-\ // \\--\| ____// ||_ /___//_\ /___\ ascii Sonic by Han J. Lee |====================== THE SONIC FAQ FILE =====================| Apr 28, 1995 edition Compiled by: Daniel J. Drazen Contributors: Ron Bauerle, Brad Clark, James Firmiss, Maureen Furniss, Craig Moore, Michiyo Nakajima, Paula O'Keefe, Eric E. Pearson, Jeff Pegnato, David Pistone, Alessandro Sanasi, Erich Schulman, Fred Sloniker, Andy White, Shawn Wolski Address all comments, corrections, contributions and flames to: drazen@andrews.edu ***************************************************************** WHAT'S NEW?: [Note: There WILL be spoilers. You have been warned. DJD] _Sonic_The_Hedgehog_ by Michael Teitelbaum [Mahwah, NJ]: Troll, 1994 Note: Any resemblance between this book and the original comics miniseries shouldn't be surprising; what IS surprising is how far from the TV series this is. Herewith, the "Cliff's Notes" description: Ch.1: At the beginning, Sonic is 7, Robotnik is 15, and both are staying with Uncle Chuck (you get some idea of how non-canonical this is going to get!). While Robotnik is only interested in gadgets, Sonic is only interested in running fast. While Uncle Chuck works on perfecting a power ring, Robotnik cannibalizes parts from Uncle Chuck's old tractor for a robot. When Uncle Chuck starts up the tractor, it goes out of control and heads for Robotnik. Ch. 2: Sonic interrupts a game of one-against-nine baseball to move the tractor which has pinned Robotnik and Uncle Chuck. He's able to move it with the power ring and he takes both Robotnik and Uncle Chuck to the hospital. Ch. 3: After being released from the hospital, Uncle Chuck and Robotnik return home. Robotnik's robot confesses to Uncle Chuck that he was put together with the stolen tractor parts, and Robotnik is grounded. Robotnik cobbles together another robot from Uncle Chuck's major appliances; it grabs Uncle Chuck but Sonic defeats it by wrapping it up in a garden hose. Robotnik leaves. Ch. 4: "Eight years passed." Sonic, 15, has a pet dog, Muttski, and works as a delivery hedgehog for his Uncle Chuck's chili dog stand. Sonic tests his new sneakers (designed by Uncle Chuck) while filling a large order, but in his absence Robotnik returns and arrests "Uncle Chuck" and his robots trash the stand. Ch. 5: Sonic delivers the chili dogs to an old factory, walking into a trap. He escapes and returns to what's left of the stand. He destroys a couple of robots who try to capture him and learns that Robotnik is responsible. He heads off for Robotnik's factory. Ch. 6: Stopping in the forest just outside the factory he encounters "a cute little chipmunk girl": Princess Sally Acorn. She shows Sonic a short-cut to the "Ro-Bo-Machine." Ch. 7: Reaching the fence around the factory, Sonic sees that Uncle Chuck has already been roboticized. Sally tries to stop him, but Sonic goes over the fence. Ch. 8: Sonic goes into Sonic Spin and takes out the SWATbots. With Sally's help, they get Uncle Chuck and Muttski and head for the Great Forest. Ch. 9: Sally leads them to "Knothole Village" which is "under the forest floor." (cf. Sonic #0). Sonic uses a power ring to restore Uncle Chuck and Muttski. None of the other Freedom Fighters are introduced. **************************************************************** I. FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS II. SOURCE DESCRIPTIONS A. SONIC THE HEDGEHOG EPISODE GUIDE B. SONIC COMICS DESCRIPTIONS C. OTHER SOURCES I. FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ============================= Q1: How did Tails come to have two tails? Q2: Is "Tails" his real name? Q3: Is Tails related to Sally? He calls her "Aunt Sally" quite often. Q4: I can't figure out what kinds of animals some of the characters are supposed to be. Q5: "Sally Acorn?" Q6: How old are the characters supposed to be? Q7: What happened to the Princess Sally miniseries? Q8: Does anyone have a theory about Sonic's speed? Q9: Why didn't ABC renew Sonic for a third season? ================================================================ Q1: How did Tails come to have two tails? A: The writers of Sonic comics solicited reader responses to this in issue #___; the replies were printed in issue #___. They range from transplantation to mutation. The latest entry is in the Sonicgram of #22. They state that Tails just happened to be born that way--with no other comment (thus illustrating the difference between an Explanation and an Answer). At this point, there is no "official" explanation as to how Tails got that way, so you're pretty much free to believe what you like. Personally, I prefer the theory that it is a mutation, induced by Robotnik's pollution of Mobius. This would accord with the fact that Tails had not been born when Robotnik took over (cf. Q6). Q2: Is "Tails" his real name? A: No, his real name is "Miles Prower" (you have to say it sorta fast to get the joke). That was his name when he was introduced on the front screen of the Sonic 2 video game. Tails was given as his nickname, and it stuck. Q3: Is Tails related to Sally? He calls her "Aunt Sally" quite often. A:This argument has been put forward by the "Sally is a fox" camp (see below). However, if that were true, then he'd also be related to Bunnie, as he's been known to address her as "Aunt Bunnie." For that matter, it seems that everyone in the Knothole gang refers to Sir Charles Hedgehog as "Uncle Chuck," though he's technically only uncle to Sonic. While it was not explicitly stated in either the comics or in the cartoons, it has to be kept in mind that all of the freedom fighters' families were disrupted by Robotnik's takeover of Mobius. It's safe to assume that they all have had relatives who have ended up being roboticized. As a result, they have become not so much a paramilitary resistance group as a loose-knit family. Sonic, for instance, clearly relates to Tails as if the latter was his little brother, the difference in species notwithstanding. Q4: I can't figure out what kinds of animals some of the characters are supposed to be. A: Admittedly, it's trickier to spot some species in the series than others. Herewith is the list: Sonic and Sir Charles. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .hedgehogs Bunnie . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . rabbit Tails. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .fox Rotor. . . . . . . . . . . . . .walrus (sea lion, cf. Teitelbaum) Antoine D'Coolette . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .fox Sally Acorn. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ground squirrel/chipmunk Sally's father . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .fox The identification of Sally as a ground squirrel is based on extended discussion of the topic on Internet {alt.fan.furry and rec.arts.animation). She was also declared to be a ground squirrel in the comics, most recently in the Sonicgram of Sonic #19. As for the designation "ground squirrel/chipmunk", which has been questioned by at least one correspondent, I entered it this way on the assumption that the two terms were synonymous. I have consulted a dictionary, which states that the term "ground squirrel" applies to several kinds of rodents, including the chipmunk genus _Tamias_. Given the present ambiguity, the designation will remain as is. Despite this, controversy continues. Identifying Sally's species has been particularly vexing to some fans, especially those who reason that since Sally's father is clearly a fox, then she must be one herself. It is possible that Sally takes after her mother in this regard more than her father. Cross-species mating is a definite possibility, and an example is implied in the "flashforward" at the end of "Sally's Crusade" [Sonic: In Your Face #1]. At this point, the identification of Sally's nanny, Rosie, remains ambiguous. Given her buck teeth, she could be either a beaver or a woodchuck. Since she is always shown wearing a long cloak, I've been unable to spot the character beaver tail. Final identification is still pending. Q5: "Sally Acorn"? A: This is how she was identified as far back as the beginning of the comics [Sonic Miniseries, #0, Mar 1993]. Technically, royalty do not have surnames or family names in the accepted sense; rather, the title of the personage tends to serve the purpose. Her middle name, Alicia, is apparently seldom used (cf. "Blast to the Past," part 1). If you wanted to be grandiose about it, Sally's formal title would be: Sally Alicia, Princess of the House of Acorn. But in any event it's unlikely that Sally's formal title will come back into use so long as Robotnik is in charge. Q6: How old are the characters supposed to be? A: According to the TV series ["Blast to the Past: part 1"] Sonic and Sally were both 5 years old when Sally's father was overthrown and Robotnik took over. Two other age clues were given in the "Drood Henge" episode: that Tails was 10 years old, and that Sally wouldn't "come of age" for another two years. At one point, Sally's age is explicitly given as being 16, though the comics reportedly put both at age 15. Subtracting 5 from 16 leaves the number of years Robotnik has been in charge: 11. Thus, it would appear that Tails was born after the fall of the House of Acorn. Still, the simplest way out of this dilemma would be to put the age of majority on Mobius at 17 instead of 18; that would eliminate the extra year differential without altering the stated ages of Sonic and Sally (in the comics) or of Tails (in "Drood Henge"). Q7: What happened to the Princess Sally miniseries? A: Archie Comics was supposed to roll out a three-part miniseries starring Sally as the main character. The story actually began with "Deadliest of the Species" in Sonic #20. The cover art for the miniseries, however, differed in subsequent advertisements: one cover for the first issue prominently featured Geoffrey St. John, while another did not. The third issue cover either does or doesn't feature Sally doing battle with a clone of herself, depending upon where you see it. Two different versions of the cover for #2 appeared in Sonic #22. The fact that the Sally creative team PLUS Archie Comics PLUS Sega reportedly came together to discuss "improving" the series (as reported in the Sonicgram for Sonic #21) would seem to indicate that someone had come down with a case of "creative differences." In any event, the "improved" Sally miniseries began shipping the week of Feb 13. Q8: Does anyone have a theory about Sonic's speed? A: How, in other words, is Sonic able to run so fast? Apparently the same way you get to Carnegie Hall in the old joke: practice. I'm serious; here is the only print explanation I've come across so far: "Years ago, when things were right on Mobius, there lived a hedgehog named Sonic.... Sonic was only interested in running as fast as he could. Every day he practiced." [Michael Teitelbaum, _Sonic the Hedgehog_. Mahwah, NJ: Troll, 1993, pp.7- 8]. And that's the extent of Teitelbaum's explanation. Thanks a heap, Mike! Q9: Why didn't ABC renew Sonic for a third season? A: The following represents the positions of neither ABC, Sega nor DiC, but rather is a recap of scuttlebutt on the Sonic e-mail group: DiC allegedly screwed the pooch by releasing StH animation cels onto the market without clearing it with Sega. Upon learning of this, Sega took umbrage that its property was being sold without its consent or agreement to a cut of the action (can you say "anal retentive"?). Words were exchanged and the show was effectively cancelled. ================================================================= NOTICE: The fact that episode and story summaries appear here means there is a good chance that you will encounter spoilers. This is your only notice! II. SOURCE DESCRIPTIONS A. SONIC THE HEDGEHOG EPISODE GUIDE 1. First Season: 1993-94 Super Sonic Writer: Jules Dennis When Nicole malfunctions, Sonic and Sally go to Robotropolis to get replacement parts. While there, they discover the Forbidden Zone and a being named Lezar. Lezar causes Sonic to lose his speed abilities, and teaches him that he can still accomplish things without it. Sonic Boom Writer: Len Janson While on a mission in Robotropolis, Sally intercepts a message which includes the use of her father's pet name for her. They follow the lead to the Dark Swamp and the remains of Ironlock Prison. In the process, a freedom fighter named Cat is captured. The freedom fighters gain maps to Robotropolis, but the search for Sally's father proves futile. Sonic and Sally Writers: Pat Allee and Ben Hurst Before becoming the principle writers for the second season, Allee and Hurst wrote this account of Sally's capture by Robotnik's forces. Sonic rescues what he thinks is Sally but what is instead a robot double. Back in Knothole, Tails begins to doubt Sally's behavior because of small details, such as how she reads a bedtime story. After first dismissing Tails' fears, Sonic also comes to realizes he's been dealing with a "Stepford Sally." Hooked on Sonics Writer: Randy Rogel In an attempt to impress Sally, Antoine tries to capture Robotnik by himself. He attempts to lure Robotnik into the open with the offer of a power ring, but Antoine is himself captured and Sonic has to rescue him. Ultra Sonic Writer: David Villaire While on a raid in Robotropolis, Sonic finds his Uncle Chuck as a robot worker in a crystal mine. Uncle Chuck recovers his mind and will long enough to help destroy a giant crystal which would have damaged the ecosystem of the entire planet. As Uncle Chuck loses control of his will, Sonic vows to return for him. Sonic's Nightmare Writer: Frank Santopadre The freedom fighters are captured and held on a deserted island refinery. Sonic must not only rescue them but he also has to deal with a recurring nightmare where he unable to prevent Sally's being roboticized. Warp Sonic Writer: Matt Uitz The freedom fighters discover an underground civilization called Lower Mobius and one of its citizens, Griff. Lower Mobius draws energy from a power crystal, but it is weakening. Feigning friendship, Griff visits Knothole and steals the power stone which is the source of the power rings. After fighting off some mechanical rats, the power stone is retrieved. Griff apologizes for his theft and is given a portion of the stone to aid Lower Mobius. Harmonic Sonic Writer: David Villaire After Robotnik launches a robot-manned orbiting space station to locate Knothole, the Knothole freedom fighters use a rocket booster to reach and destroy it. Sonic and the Secret Scrolls Writer: Janis Diamond The freedom fighters journey to Mauga (sp?) to recover some legendary scrolls, but Robotnik is tailing them. Robotnik's ship is hurled off a plateau by a violent wind, and the Knothole gang mistakenly believe he is finished. Will they make the same mistake at the end of the second season? Sub-Sonic Writer: Barbara Slade Sonic discovers a stream of water that makes plants grow at a fantastic rate. In their search for the source, the Knothole gang discover a subterranean creature whose habitat has been disturbed by Robotnik's drilling operations. Heads or Tails Writer: Len Janson On a raid of Robotropolis, Sonic runs into Muttski, his now- roboticized pet dog and vows to return him to normal someday. The freedom fighters also have to contend with a squadron of Buzzbombers carrying an orange defoliant [Agent Orange? Hmmmm...] intent on destroying the Great Forest and exposing Knothole. Artwork in this ep is decidedly off-model. Sonic Past Cool Writers: Kayte Kuch & Sheryl Scarborough Tails finds a baby terrapod and the freedom fighters escort the terrapod herd to Boulder Bay, where they will be safe from Robotnik. Sonic Racer Writer: Len Janson While on a mission to disable Robotnik's power generators, Sonic is tempted into participating in a contest against a super-fast robot designed to capture him. While he engages the bot, Bunnie, Sally and Antoine go after their target: Robotnik's back-up generator. 2. Second Season: 1994-95 Game Guy Sonic rescues someone from capture by Robotnik; he turns out to be Ari, a freedom fighter from another group. Ari directs Sonic to a place which turns out to be a trap. Sonic manages to escape (after Robotnik toys with him), but Ari--whose comrades were roboticized and who was himself deceived by Robotnik--is sucked into the Void. Before falling into the Void, Ari says something about a list of other freedom fighters. Sonic Conversion To my way of thinking, THE breakthrough episode for the series! The Knothole gang test a deroboticizing process on Bunnie, whose partially-roboticized body is returned to normal. Sonic then goes after Uncle Chuck and is able to convince him to undergo the process. However, the process turns out to be only temporary as, in a poignant scene, Bunnie reverts to a half-robot. When Uncle Chuck reverts to robotic form, he captures Tails and Antoine for delivery to Robotnik; Sonic confronts him and manages to break the hold on Uncle Chuck's mind. Uncle Chuck returns to Robotropolis to work as a spy for the Knothole gang. No Brainer Sonic's thought processes are temporarily scrambled while on a mission in Robotropolis. Taking advantage of the situation, Snively convinces Sonic that they are friends. The disruption wears off just as the Knothole gang face imminent capture. Blast to the Past (two parts) Dulcy takes Sonic and Sally to a floating island where they use the Time Stones to return to Mobotropolis on the eve of the planet's conquest by Dr. Robotnik (then known as Julian, affiliated with the War Ministry and supposedly in charge of its dismantling). They also encounter themselves as 5-year-olds and learn that it was Sonic's Uncle Chuck who had perfected the roboticizer process in the first place, though Julian/Robotnik stole the process. Sally and Sonic work to keep their child selves from being roboticized, to prevent the Great Forest from being destroyed, and to make sure that Sally's nanny, Rosie, would not get captured. Fed Up With Antoine/Ghost Busted (back to back episodes) Feeling unappreciated, Antoine allows himself to be made "king" by a group of renegades, unaware that with the office comes the "honor" of being an entree./While out camping, Sonic's ghost story panics Tails, and Antoine once more demonstrates his ineptitude. Dulcy Dulcy begins having overpowering urges to fly to Dragonsnest, a nesting site for female dragons. She, Sonic and Sally, arrive just as Robotnik has captured another female dragon; they then discover the dragon's egg inside Dragonsnest. Taking the egg back to Knothole, they rescue the female dragon who returns in time to hatch the egg. The Void Sonic discovers an opening to the Void while out in the "Great Unknown" [another name for the Forbidden Zone?]. Sally and Bunnie are put under a spell and pulled into the Void by a sorcerer named Naugus, who had been imprisoned there years before by Robotnik and who needs Sonic's speed to escape. Sonic learns what has happened from Nicole and allows himself to be pulled into the Void. Attempting to rescue Sally and Bunnie, he is tricked into rescuing what he thinks is Sally's father but is really Naugus. Sonic returns to the Void and finds not only Sally and Bunnie but the King and Ari as well. He brings them all out, but Naugus and the King have spent so much time in the Void that their bodies cannot handle living on Mobius. Naugus breaks off his tormenting of Robotnik, and Sally's father gives her the list of other resistance groups. On the whole, Sally goes through the emotional rollercoaster ride of her life. The Odd Couple/Ro-Becca (back to back episodes) After a crash landing by Dulcy leaves Sonic homeless he moves in with Antoine, who predictably gets bent out of shape by Sonic's lifestyle./Rotor cobbles together a robot which develops the hots for Antoine. Cry of the Wolf The Knothole freedom fighters search for and discover the Wolf Pack, the remnants of an ancient race who are now one of the other resistance groups. After several unsuccessful attempts to destroy a test pod from the Doomsday Project, Sonic draws it into a lightning storm and destroys it. Drood Henge Sonic and Tails discover an archaeological dig by Robotnik; they learn from Nicole that the object of the search is the Deep Power Stones, and that Robotnik has recovered one of the two. Tails comes up with a plan to retrieve the second stone before Robotnik can get to it. Spyhog On the eve of final preparations of the Doomsday project, Robotnik begins to suspect that there is a spy in his midst. Uncle Chuck's cover is blown, but he escapes capture and goes back underground with a different cover. Doomsday In the season finale, a combined force of the five freedom fighter groups tries to destroy the Doomsday project. Robotnik, however, seems to have too many safeguards built in. As a last resort, Sonic and Sally use the Deep Power Stones. The Doomsday project is destroyed; Robotnik's fate is uncertain but Snively is ready to step into his shoes in a burst of megalomania and overacting. Cliffhanger: who or what does Snively have to help him? We'll never know: ABC chose not to run StH for a third season. VOICE CREDITS: SONIC: Jaleel White SALLY: Kath Soucie NICOLE: Kath Soucie (uncredited) TAILS: Bradley Pierce BUNNIE: Christine Cavanaugh ANTOINE: Rob Paulsen ROTOR: Mark Ballou (1st season) Cam Brainard (2d season) DULCY: Cree Summer Franks UNCLE CHUCK: William Windom ROBOTNIK: Jim Cummings SNIVELY: Charlie Adler ADDITIONAL VOICES: (First season): David Doyle Gaille Heindenmann Dana Hill Danny Mann Jason Marsden Charlie Schlatter Frank Welker (Second season): Shari Belafonte: Lupee (?) Michael Bell: Naugus (?) Crystal Cooke Tim Curry: Sally's father; Keeper of the Time Stones Dave Fennoy Dorian Harewood John Kassir Katie Leigh Nancy Linari Victor Love Tahj Mowry Hal Rayle Alaina Reed Hall Lindsay Ridgeway April Winchell Want to contact DiC? Write or phone: DiC 303 North Glenoaks Blvd. Burbank, CA 91502 (818) 955-5400 (818) 955-5696 (FAX) B. SONIC COMICS DESCRIPTIONS [CONTRIBUTIONS WELCOME] Now, direct from the Great White North, Brad Clark summarizes the original Sonic miniseries: Issue 0 "Don't Cry For Me, Mobius" Story: Michael Gallagher, Art: Scott Shaw! Sonic is chased by Dr. Robotnik. After the chase, which Robotnik loses, Sonic returns to Knothole where most of the main characters are introduced for the first time. (Note: Rotor is referred to as "Boomer.") Antoine then announces that there is a leak in Knothole (Knothole is located underground in this issue) that is caused by Robotnik. Sonic defeats Robotnik with a power ring. "The Royal Family of Mobius" Takes place before Robotnik was in power and has Sonic and Uncle Chuck running a chilidog take-out stand. Robotnik destroys the stand and captures Muttski and Uncle Chuck. Sonic meets Sally (with yellow hair and red fur) who introduces him to the rest of the freedom fighters in Knothole. Issue 1 "Run, Sally, Run" Story and art: Gallagher & Shaw! Sally [this time with pink fur and black hair] goes to see Robotnik about the return of her father. Robotnik captures Sally and almost throws her into the "Robo-machine." Sonic rescues Sally only to discover that Sally had wanted to get caught in order to gather information on the roboticizer, using some special boots designed by Boomer/Rotor. Issue 2 "A Crowning Achievement" Gallagher & Shaw! again. Sally decides to wear the "Crown of the Acorn Kings" which belonged to her father, but the crown is missing. They discover a robotic freedom fighter who tells them that Robotnik has stolen the crown and has scattered its jewels (the four Chaos Emeralds) throughout the land. Sonic retrieves the emeralds and Boomer/Rotor repairs the crown. Issue 3 "Sonic Flashback" Gallagher & Shaw! Sonic and Robotnik recall when they were kids. Uncle Chuck invents the power rings. Sonic and Robotnik have an argument, and it escalates until Robotnik is constructing mechanical monsters out of Uncle Chuck's appliances. Sonic then wakes up -- it was all just a daydream -- and resumes being chased by Robotnik. "Why Ask Spy" Sonic is made to look like a robot to trick Robotnik and to destroy one of his factories. In the process, Sonic discovers Uncle Chuck and Muttski who have both been roboticized. Sonic destroys the factory. #18 [Jan 1995]: "Wedding Bell Blues" Robotnik gets word of Sonic and Sally's impending wedding and plans an attack. "In the Still of the Night" While trying to determine the nature of the mysterious orb (cf. "First Star....", #17), Sally is called to the bedside of her old mentor, Julayla, just before she dies. Sonicgram: includes statement that Sonic is 15, and a German fan disses Dave Manak's artwork Sonic: In Your Face #1 [1995] "Sally's Crusade: The Quest" The orb is revealed to be a casing surrounding Nicole. Sally, with the others in tow, searches for what turns out to be Julayla's last testament. The significance of this document is spelled out in a "flashforward" at the end of the story. "Mirror Zone" An excuse to practice backwards lettering. Sonicgram: Sally's age is given as "about 15." [Note, if you're going to guess a lady's age, guess on the low side ;-) ] "Tails' Tallest Tale" Tails substitutes for Sonic, putting in an appearance at a con. His exaggerations almost get him into trouble. Artwork by Shaw!. #19 [Feb 1995]: "Night of a Thousand Sonics" In order to defeat Robotnik's latest scheme, Sonic has to call in as many versions of himself from as many parallel universes as he can. Artwork by Manak for the first half, Mawhinney for the second. Sonicgram: The name of Sally's father is given as "King Acorn" (but see FAQ #5). Scott Fulop hedges on when Knuckles will make an appearance and whose side he'll be on. Again, Sally is identified as a "ground squirrel." Hint is dropped as to a Sonic motion picture in the works. #20 [Mar 1995]: "That's the Spirit" Exposure to an antimatter explosion renders Sonic invisible; Sally and the others [Tails being the exception] believe he is dead. The comedic pacing and Manak's artwork mar what otherwise might have been a very poignant story. Great line (Sonic to Robotnik--who thinks he's dealing with a ghost): "Give Mobius back to the freedom fighters, lose weight and get a hairpiece!" "Deadliest of the Species" [Prologue to the Princess Sally miniseries] While on a sabotage mission, Sally is confronted by someone claiming to be part of a rebel underground. Sonicgram: Once again lists Sally's age as 15. #21 [Apr 1995]: "3 Phases of E.V.E" Pat Spaziante debuts as a story artist. Robotnik unleashes E.V.E. ["exceptionally versatile evolvoid"] to capture Sonic. As Sonic manages to outsmart E.V.E., it simply adapts to another form to compensate. Sonic lures it to Robotnik's headquarters where, assuming a self-conscious form, E.V.E. determines that it is being held back by its biological inheritance from Sonic and Robotnik [i.e., individual cells used in E.V.E.'s creation]. E.V.E. toasts Robotnik, but thanks to some quick thinking by Sonic--apparently, Sally's influence is rubbing off on him ;-) -- E.V.E. spares Sonic and travels out into space on a journey of self-actualization. Is Robotnik really history? That's the tease--stay tuned, probably until after the Sally miniseries. Sonicgram: announcement of the delay in rolling out the Sally miniseries; another special issue (48pp) due out in May. #22 [May 1995] "The Return," written by Ken Penders, art by Pat Spaziante & Harvey M. The story opens with Sonic & Sally MCW (Married with Children; cf. the end of "Sally's Quest" in _In Your Face #1_). Sonic & Sally are out with the kids when, during a lightning storm, an apparition of Robotnik appears and just as suddenly disappears. Have your pencils and scorecards ready to try and follow the remainder of the plot: Robotnik is actually on a satellite talking with Robo-Robotnik from "Night of a Thousand Sonics," (#19), only in this case only the consciousness of Robo-Robotnik (hereinafter "R-R") remains resident. Robotnik convinces R-R to teleport him back to Mobius, where it turns out Snively has activated an alternative Doomesday device which would go off if Robotnik was ever defeated. Robotnik actually deactivates "Operation Wasteland" himself to keep from being ruler over nothing and to have the pleasure of saying to Sonic: "You owe me!" Robotnik and Sonic MWC are declared to be at a stalemate. What about R-R? Who knows? Muddled story saved by Spaziante artwork. "Tails Knighttime Story," written by Angelo Decasare, art by Dave Manak & John Dagostino. As Tails grumps about "get[ting] baby-sat" while Sonic has all the fun and adventures, Sally tells him a bedtime story wherein Sonic is Sir Runalot and Tails is his page who "borrows" his armour one day and who, mistaken for the aforementioned knight, ends up doing battle with Sir Knightmare of Robotannia (guess who?) until the real Sir Runalot saves his...er...tails. Sonicgram: the comics should get a FAQ File, since two letters pepper them with questions (most are answered: "Keep reading." Translation: "we're working on it!"). The cover of Princess Sally #2 in an ad on the same page differs from one which appears on p. 17 of the same issue(!), thus bolstering the "creative differences" theory in Q7. #23 [Jun 1995] "Ivo Robotnik, Freedom Fighter" Story: Angelo Decesare; Art: Dave Manak Sonic, Sally, Rotor, Tails, Robotnik and Snively are all captured by Car-Heem, a giant alien who wants to study them. In order to save Robotnik from "disposal," Sonic convinces Car-Heem that they are interdependent species, a novelty to the autonomous Car-Heem. Thanks to a diversion by Sonic, the others escape their confinement in a craft of Robotnik's design. Although Robotnik blows Car-Heem and Sonic out of Car-Heem's spacecraft's airlock, Rotor retrieves them. In gratitude, Car-Heem returns everyone to Mobius and Rotor, inspired, releases the inhabitants of his ant farm [Heavy Message]. There's also a really bad pun which I'm not going to reveal. Do-It-Yourself Sonic Contest winners announced. "Vol-ANT-teer" Story: Angelo Decesare; Art: Dave Manak Antoine ventures into Robotropolis alone to retrieve Tails' lost backpack with a power ring in it. Bunnie shadows him just in case. Surprising last panel gives the impression that Antoine isn't exactly clueless. Sonicgram: Further indication that Knuckles will put in an appearance in the next Sonic special, though no hint as to his allegiance; look for an appearance by Knack the Weasel [c.f., the Triple Trouble game] in the same issue. Princess Sally Mini-series #1 [April 1995] Summary by Ron Bauerle "Deadliest of the Species!" written by Mike Kanterovich & Ken Penders, art by Art Mawhinney & Rich Koslowski. Opens with a nice splash page summarizing the struggle so far and describes the main characters (get this: "Antoine is renouned for his military skills" - okayyyy...). Next it recaps Sally's meeting Geoffrey St. John...in StH #20. Sally & Geoffrey are attacked by SWATbots after destroying the facility and manage to beat them off [hey, Ron, let's leave their private lives out of this ;-) ] and exchange some banter in the process (I can't call it friendly but it's not really sarcastic either). They then head back to the camp where some young trainee freedom fighters are waiting for Sally. Geoffrey mistakes them for enemies and jumps a pig (Hamlin) but they're separated by Sally. This establishes some bad blood between Hamlin and Geoffrey that continues all issue. The team proceeds to its next target (an energy substation) and after battling SWATbots and ORBbots manage to destroy it. During the battle Geoffrey saves Hamlin's life but Hamlin still doesn't trust him. That night, when everyone else is asleep, Geoffrey slips away, activates a teleportal, enters some kind of building and descends to its basement where he speaks to a figure in a glass case: Sally!? Also some fan art: two pics of Sally & Bunnie (both NBD), and one of Sally as a dominatrix (!). Princess Sally Miniseries #2 (Summary by Erich Schulman): The story opens with a fight between St. John and Hamlin, and Sally gives Hamlin a scolding. To reach the third, undestroyed substation, the freedom fighters use a new (!?) technology: hang gliders. Arlo's hang glider is hit by the defenses and he is wounded in action; Penelope volunteers to stay with him. Once inside, Sally and St. John are attacked by an octopod, and everyone barely manages to escape the explosions. Upon leaving, they find that Sally and Penelope are gone. Sally says they will return to camp without them (to which Hamlin is opposed), and they never show up again. Did you have your doubts about St. John? That night, St. John replaces Sally with a lookalike robot and delivers the real Sally to Robotnik. Fan mail (singular; only one letter appears): Will Sonic and Sally marry? "Could be." Has Sally met Knuckles? She will in a forthcoming 48-page S&K special. Does Sally have a mother, and if so what does she look like? "Of course...her origin may yet be told." Or [shameless plug] you can read about it in "Bloodlines" in the fanfic section of Rotor's homepage. "Deadliest of the Species, Part III" Story: Mike Kanterovich & Ken Penders Art: Art Mawhinney (Summary: James Firmiss) (Recap of parts 0, 1 and 2 omitted) Sally, Hamlin and Dylan are fighting their way into Robotropolis with paint guns and grenades (blinding SWATbots). Dylan believes that attacking at half strength isn't wise, yet they press on. Hamlin nearly falls from a collapsing catwalk but Sally rescues him. They eventually reach their objective, break down the doors and find...Robotnik, St. John and Sally (in the container). Hamlin believes Geoffrey to be a traitor so he jumps him. Sally breaks it up and says she and St. John are on the same side. Robotnic reveals that Sally is an auto-automaton, a perfect robot duplicate, and that there was no weakness in the defense system. His master plan is to replace key members of the freedom fighters--we see auto-automatons of Sonic and Tails being built. Robotnik also plans to roboticize the Sally delivered to him by St. John. Robotnik begins the roboticization process but the chamber blows up because a "feedback loop" has occurred. Something which is impossible unless...he were trying to roboticize a robot! The real Sally was with Dylan and Hamlin. Sally tries to 'arrest' Robotnik, but large StealthBots emerge from the walls and capture the freedom fighters. Note: you could see the outlines of the StealthBots 5 pages back. St. John pushes a button on a remote control and a vehicle burrows its way up through the floor. Out pop Penelope, Arlo and three "moles". They help free Sally, Dylan and Hamlin (more paint guns). Robotnik manages to activate a 30-second self-destruct and disappears down an escape chute. Sally and the others all head for the vehicle maintenance area and grab saucer-shaped air cars (from Hanger 18! X-P ) and get out with no time to spare. With everyone back at the base, Hamlin, Penelope, Arlo and Dylan are promoted to full-fledged freedom fighters. Sally tries to convince Geoffrey to come to Knothole but he declines in order to rejoin the Rebel Underground. He does engage Sally in some serious lip-locking before they part. If you're not confused yet, here's a run-down of the plot- twists, as Sally explains them at the end: The FIRST Sally switch occurred right at the beginning of Part 1 shortly after meeting St. John. St. John really was the leader of the "Rebel Underground" and acted as a double agent in order to gain Robotnik's trust and activate the robot double prematurely in order to find out what its plans were. It was the auto-automaton Sally that helped attack the 2d and 3d substations. It was such a good copy that it could give orders, make hard choices, and even grieve for missing comrades. But did you notice the two clues that would have tipped you off that this was an automated Sally: 1. "Auto" Sally wore a purple vest instead of a blue one. 2. "Auto" Sally referred to Geoffrey by his first name, while the real Sally always called him "Mr. St. John." The SECOND Sally switch occurred in Part II, when Robotnik (and the reader) was supposed to think that Sally was being replaced by a robot double. And what about Arlo and Penelope? They were taken away by the moles from the literal Rebel UNDERGROUND. The Rebel Underground was also supposed to be backup in case anything unexpected happened. "This is definitely one of the most complicated stories Archie's Sonic group has ever come up with. Congrats...." JF SallyGram: Horace Hawkins (14) wishes Sally a Happy Valentine's Day, and expresses the desire to be her boyfriend. LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD! Scott Fulop (Editor) asks if there is interest in a MONTHLY Sally comic. If so, send a postcard with the following: Give me Princess Sally. Monthly. NOW!!! to: SallyGrams c/o Archie Comic Publishing 325 Fayette Avenue Mamaroneck, NY 10543 NOTES FROM THE NET: that's the heading suggested for comix- related posts to a.f.s-h by none other than Paul Castiglia of Archie Comics. Seems P.C. thinks that NftN would make a good subsection of the Sonic Grams, and said so in a recent post. The idea is that you can post to a.f.s-h, and your post (and e-mail address if you want) will be reprinted in NftN. But ONLY if you specify that it's for NftN. Apparently Archie Comics is still getting a feel for whether they should go ahead with the plan, so let's see some support for it! Hmmm, wonder if Sally's e-mail address is princess@frdmftrs.mobius.org ? COMIC PUBLISHERS: For subscriptions and back issues--US & Canada: Archie Comics 325 Fayette Avenue Mamaroneck, NY 10543 (914) 381-5155. $15.00/year US monthly $18.00/year CAN monthly For subscriptions and back issues--United Kingdom (Fleetway Editions comics): Sonic The Comic Subscription Dept. OR Back Issue Zone Aim Ltd. P.O. Box 10 Pallion Industrial Estate Sunderland, SR4 6SN UNITED KINGDOM 01144-91-5102290 L28.60 (=28 pounds, 60 pence)/year UK fortnightly L45.00/year Europe fortnightly L47.00/year Overseas surface mail fortnightly L55.00/year Overseas airmail fortnightly C. OTHER SOURCES Michael Teitelbaum, _Sonic the Hedgehog_ (c)1993; _Sonic the Hedgehog: Robotnik's Revenge_ (c)1994; _Sonic the Hedgehog: Fortress of Fear_ (c)1994: Mahwah, New Jersey: Troll Associates. _Sonic the Hedgehog_ synopsis: Note: Any resemblance between this book and the original comics miniseries shouldn't be surprising; what IS surprising is how far from the TV series this is. Herewith, the "Cliff's Notes" description: Ch.1: At the beginning, Sonic is 7, Robotnik is 15, and both are staying with Uncle Chuck (you get some idea of how non-canonical this is going to get!). While Robotnik is only interested in gadgets, Sonic is only interested in running fast. While Uncle Chuck works on perfecting a power ring, Robotnik cannibalizes parts from Uncle Chuck's old tractor for a robot. When Uncle Chuck starts up the tractor, it goes out of control and heads for Robotnik. Ch. 2: Sonic interrupts a game of one-against-nine baseball to move the tractor which has pinned Robotnik and Uncle Chuck. He's able to move it with the power ring and he takes both Robotnik and Uncle Chuck to the hospital. Ch. 3: After being released from the hospital, Uncle Chuck and Robotnik return home. Robotnik's robot confesses to Uncle Chuck that he was put together with the stolen tractor parts, and Robotnik is grounded. Robotnik cobbles together another robot from Uncle Chuck's major appliances; it grabs Uncle Chuck but Sonic defeats it by wrapping it up in a garden hose. Robotnik leaves. Ch. 4: "Eight years passed." Sonic, 15, has a pet dog, Muttski, and works as a delivery hedgehog for his Uncle Chuck's chili dog stand. Sonic tests his new sneakers (designed by Uncle Chuck) while filling a large order, but in his absence Robotnik returns and arrests "Uncle Chuck" and his robots trash the stand. Ch. 5: Sonic delivers the chili dogs to an old factory, walking into a trap. He escapes and returns to what's left of the stand. He destroys a couple of robots who try to capture him and learns that Robotnik is responsible. He heads off for Robotnik's factory. Ch. 6: Stopping in the forest just outside the factory he encounters "a cute little chipmunk girl": Princess Sally Acorn. She shows Sonic a short-cut to the "Ro-Bo-Machine." Ch. 7: Reaching the fence around the factory, Sonic sees that Uncle Chuck has already been roboticized. Sally tries to stop him, but Sonic goes over the fence. Ch. 8: Sonic goes into Sonic Spin and takes out the SWATbots. With Sally's help, they get Uncle Chuck and Muttski and head for the Great Forest. Ch. 9: Sally leads them to "Knothole Village" which is "under the forest floor." (cf. Sonic #0). Sonic uses a power ring to restore Uncle Chuck and Muttski. None of the other Freedom Fighters are introduced. _Sonic the Hedgehog: Robotnik's Revenge_ synopsis: one of the Knothole freedom fighters is captured by Robotnik and used as bait to lure Sonic into a trap. In this case, the victim is Bunnie, and the story supposedly explains how she came to be partially roboticized. This account is at odds with the explanation in the comics. In addition, both Uncle Chuck and Muttski in this book has been successfully deroboticized (see above), which conflicts with "Sonic Conversion" and, in fact, the rest of the second season. _Sonic the Hedgehog: Fortress of Fear_ synopsis: COMING SOON OVERSEAS BOOKS: Martin Adams, _Sonic the Hedgehog and the Silicon Warriors_ (c)1993; _Sonic the Hedgehog in Castle Robotnik_ (c)1994; _Sonic the Hedgehog in the Fourth Dimension_ (c)1993; _Sonic the Hedgehog in Robotnik's Laboratory_ (c)1993: London: Virgin. Attention WEB-Slingers: The following individuals have set up Sonic the Hedgehog home pages on the World Wide Web. You can access them at: David Pistone http://www.primenet.com/~rotor Stories and fanart Shawn Wolski http://wwwvms.utexas.edu/~n5una/index.html Fanart and this FAQ file; also access to Ratman's Sonic Web Page. From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 29 02:07:16 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id CAA23043 for sonic-ll; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 02:06:51 -0400 Received: from hubcap.clemson.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id CAA23038 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 02:06:49 -0400 Received: (pgettle@localhost) by hubcap.clemson.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) id CAA26309; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 02:07:18 -0400 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 02:07:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Gettle To: sonic@sard.mv.net cc: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic FAQ File (What's new response) In-Reply-To: <9504290009.AA18689@edmund> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Fri, 28 Apr 1995, Dan Drazen wrote: > ***************************************************************** > WHAT'S NEW?: > [Note: There WILL be spoilers. You have been warned. DJD] > > > _Sonic_The_Hedgehog_ by Michael Teitelbaum > [Mahwah, NJ]: Troll, 1994 > encounters "a cute little chipmunk girl": Princess Sally Acorn. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Goddess no!!!!! The last thing we need is even more species confusion! -- Paul Gettle (pgettle@hubcap.clemson.edu) "You're wrong. I'm right. As usual." -- Princess Sally "Caution: Happy Fun Fox may suddenly accellerate to dangerous speeds. Do not taunt Happy Fun Fox." -- Disclaimer From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 29 05:19:09 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id FAA23450 for sonic-ll; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 05:18:45 -0400 Received: from quack.kfu.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id FAA23444 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 05:18:40 -0400 Received: by quack.kfu.com id AA07391 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4 for sonic@sard.mv.net); Sat, 29 Apr 1995 02:18:37 -0700 From: Pat Carson Message-Id: <199504290918.AA07391@quack.kfu.com> Subject: Re: Sonic FAQ File (What's new response) To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 02:18:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: from "Paul Gettle" at Apr 29, 95 02:07:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1179 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net > > On Fri, 28 Apr 1995, Dan Drazen wrote: > > > ***************************************************************** > > WHAT'S NEW?: > > [Note: There WILL be spoilers. You have been warned. DJD] > > > > [Blank spaces nicely nuked. :)] > > > > > _Sonic_The_Hedgehog_ by Michael Teitelbaum > > [Mahwah, NJ]: Troll, 1994 > > encounters "a cute little chipmunk girl": Princess Sally Acorn. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Goddess no!!!!! The last thing we need is even more species confusion! > > Hmm, I thought chipmunks WERE a type of ground squirrel... I could be wrong, tho... Feel free to thwap me if I am. :) -- /---------> ##### ##### ##### # <---------------------------------------\ |Peace, -> # # # # # <- Vision (Pat Carson in RealLife(TM)) | | Love, -> ##### ### # # <- vision@quack.kfu.com | | and -> # # # <- /-----------------------------------\| \---------> # ##### ##### # <--| Nakedness is a concept created by |/ | Humans with fur envy :) | \-----------------------------------/ From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 29 10:23:20 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id KAA23895 for sonic-ll; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 10:23:09 -0400 Received: from peter.cs.andrews.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id KAA23890 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 10:23:00 -0400 Received: from edmund (edmund.cs.andrews.edu) by peter.cs.andrews.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA28888; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 10:22:53 -0400 From: drazen@andrews.edu (Dan Drazen) Received: by edmund (5.x) id AA02764; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 10:22:45 -0400 Message-Id: <9504291422.AA02764@edmund> Subject: Species Argument, Round 2 (was: Re: Sonic FAQ) To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 10:22:44 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "Paul Gettle" at Apr 29, 95 02:07:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net > > On Fri, 28 Apr 1995, Dan Drazen wrote: > > > ***************************************************************** > > WHAT'S NEW?: > > [Note: There WILL be spoilers. You have been warned. DJD] > > > > > > _Sonic_The_Hedgehog_ by Michael Teitelbaum > > [Mahwah, NJ]: Troll, 1994 > > encounters "a cute little chipmunk girl": Princess Sally Acorn. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Goddess no!!!!! The last thing we need is even more species confusion! > > > -- Paul Gettle (pgettle@hubcap.clemson.edu) > > "You're wrong. I'm right. As usual." -- Princess Sally > Sorry to disappoint all you "Sally is a fox" partisans. Hey, I don't write'em, I just quote 'em. And if I DID write 'em, I'd show Sally more dignity than to call her a "cute little girl." "Cute" indeed; by age 15 she should be moving away from "cute" and be halfway towards "stunning!" We now return you to your regularly scheduled rodent. ================================================================ || ___------__ || || |\__-- /\ _- || Daniel J. Drazen || | / __ _ || drazen@andrews.edu || //\ / \ /__ || || | o| 0|__ --_ || Custodian of one of the Sonic || \\____-- __ \ ___ - || the Hedgehog FAQ Files || (@@ __/ / /_ || || -_____--- --_ || ASCII Sonic by Han J. Lee ================================================================ From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 29 10:38:29 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id KAA23960 for sonic-ll; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 10:38:28 -0400 Received: from hubcap.clemson.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id KAA23953 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 10:38:26 -0400 Received: (pgettle@localhost) by hubcap.clemson.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) id KAA08527; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 10:39:02 -0400 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 10:39:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Gettle To: sonic@sard.mv.net cc: sonic@sard.mv.net Subject: Re: Sonic FAQ File (What's new response) In-Reply-To: <199504290918.AA07391@quack.kfu.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net On Sat, 29 Apr 1995, Pat Carson wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Apr 1995, Dan Drazen wrote: > > > > > ***************************************************************** > > > WHAT'S NEW?: > > > [Note: There WILL be spoilers. You have been warned. DJD] > > > > > > > [Blank spaces nicely nuked. :)] ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Those were supposed to be spoiler spaces, but you're right, they weren't needed. > > > > > > > > _Sonic_The_Hedgehog_ by Michael Teitelbaum > > > [Mahwah, NJ]: Troll, 1994 > > > encounters "a cute little chipmunk girl": Princess Sally Acorn. > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > Goddess no!!!!! The last thing we need is even more species confusion! > > Hmm, I thought chipmunks WERE a type of ground squirrel... > > I could be wrong, tho... Feel free to thwap me if I am. :) Well maybe they are, but with all the species confusion, we need one concrete answer. Sega? Save us? -- Paul Gettle (pgettle@hubcap.clemson.edu) "You're wrong. I'm right. As usual." -- Princess Sally "Caution: Happy Fun Fox may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds. Do not taunt Happy Fun Fox" -- Disclaimer From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 29 12:45:37 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA24349 for sonic-ll; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 12:45:32 -0400 Received: from holodeck.cc.vt.edu by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id MAA24344 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 12:45:29 -0400 Message-Id: <199504291645.MAA24344@sard.mv.net> Received: from jpegnato.async.vt.edu by holodeck.cc.vt.edu with SMTP (8.6.10/16.2) id MAA24534; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 12:45:26 -0400 X-Sender: jpegnato@mail.vt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 12:45:54 +0600 To: sonic@sard.mv.net From: jpegnato@vt.edu (Jeffrey Pegnato) Subject: NO round 2!![wuz:Re: Species Argument, Round 2] X-Mailer: Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net >Sorry to disappoint all you "Sally is a fox" partisans. Hey, I don't "all you" - I thought I wuz the only one...or at least the only one to admit it. >write'em, I just quote 'em. And if I DID write 'em, I'd show Sally more >dignity than to call her a "cute little girl." >"Cute" indeed; by age 15 she should be moving away from "cute" and be >halfway towards "stunning!" You mean you quoted this out of the book? HaHaHaHa... It's really pathetic that people have tried to argue with ME about this subject when there are at least 3 different views of this from the "experts" YES! by age 15,16,17 or whatever you prefer, according to what you read, 'ol Sally girl is definitely growing up...and out... ;-)~~~~ incidentally, after starting this argument the first, second, and a just recent third time on the mailing list, I strongly suggest not wasting anymore time with it - NO ONE CAN EVER WIN THE ARGUMENT!!! (NO round 2, o.k.?) For every instance you say she is a squirrel, I can disprove it with fox, another with chipmunk, another with mink, another with..........(get the idea?) *** "When you are courting a nice girl an hour seems like a second. When you sit on a red-hot cinder a second seems like an hour. That's relativity." *** - Albert Einstein Working hard to destroy stupidity everywhere... Jeffrey Pegnato jpegnato@vt.edu From owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Sat Apr 29 20:01:03 1995 Received: by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id UAA25581 for sonic-ll; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 20:00:22 -0400 Received: from quack.kfu.com by sard.mv.net (8.6.9/mv(b)/mem-941101) id UAA25576 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 20:00:17 -0400 Received: by quack.kfu.com id AA03522 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4 for sonic@sard.mv.net); Sat, 29 Apr 1995 17:00:02 -0700 From: Pat Carson Message-Id: <199504300000.AA03522@quack.kfu.com> Subject: Re: Species Argument, Round 2 (was: Re: Sonic FAQ) To: sonic@sard.mv.net Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 17:00:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9504291422.AA02764@edmund> from "Dan Drazen" at Apr 29, 95 10:22:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1182 Sender: owner-sonic@sard.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sonic@sard.mv.net > > Sorry to disappoint all you "Sally is a fox" partisans. Hey, I don't > write'em, I just quote 'em. And if I DID write 'em, I'd show Sally more > dignity than to call her a "cute little girl." > "Cute" indeed; by age 15 she should be moving away from "cute" and be > halfway towards "stunning!" > Hey, just because someone grows up (and out, as someone here put it :), and starts filling the 'stunning' category, that doesn't disqualify them from being cute. Although, In Sally's case, 'cute' doesn't really fit.. I prefer the term 'waycute'... Maybe even, to paraphrase Blue Boy himself, 'Way Past Cute'... :) -- /---------> ##### ##### ##### # <---------------------------------------\ |Peace, -> # # # # # <- Vision (Pat Carson in RealLife(TM)) | | Love, -> ##### ### # # <- vision@quack.kfu.com | | and -> # # # <- /-----------------------------------\| \---------> # ##### ##### # <--| Nakedness is a concept created by |/ | Humans with fur envy :) | \-----------------------------------/