From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 1 14:16:05 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA18001 for kats-ll; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 13:42:55 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA17994 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 13:42:49 -0500 Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.3/merit-2.0) with SMTP id NAA26475 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 13:41:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa04562; 1 Mar 96 13:45 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <31376F94@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Fri, 01 Mar 96 13:43:48 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: Kats list Subject: RE: Super Chunk! Date: Fri, 01 Mar 96 13:42:00 PST Message-ID: <31376F94@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 16 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net August Paul Yang wrote: >Either I've seen severed from the list, or it's been *really* slow >these past two days. I'll opt for the latter. In any case, I've Heh. I had the same thought, but I thought it was my mail server.. :) >Well, I suggested that, as compensation, they show a Super Chunk TCN did do a Super Chunk a while back & another one sounds like a good idea to me. Along with those comments, I think I'll ask for another marathon in July -- make it an annual event! I'd really like to see the Tremblay brothers host it! -Matt mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 2 17:13:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA02524 for kats-ll; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:44:46 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA02519 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:44:42 -0500 Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA04446 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:44:20 -0500 Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:44:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199603022144.QAA04446@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: Super Chunk! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 11:27 PM 2/29/96 -0500, you wrote: >Well, I suggested that, as compensation, they show a Super Chunk >of SWAT Kats. It's not the *greatest* solution, but it'll Well, I just saw a commerical on TCN, and it looks like they will be showing a super chunk of SK next saturday at 4pm... Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 03:40:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id DAA15062 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 03:25:21 -0500 Received: from [164.67.20.82] (ts16-5.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.20.82]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id DAA15055 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 03:25:13 -0500 X-Sender: rat1@bort.mv.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 00:25:20 -0800 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: Green (Kat) thumbs... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Friday's SK episode, if you weren't already aware, was "Destructive Nature," which was, ironically, the same episode that introduced me to the series in the first place. It's in this episode that we find out that Jake's hobbies include horticulture (plants). One thing that I roleplayed, albeit briefly, on the mucks was an encounter between Razor and another character (TMNT Donatello) where Don asked Razor if his plants were perennials or evergreens. ;-) (Does it really matter in Megakat City?) Just a stray thought to liven up an otherwise relatively slow list... -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia "I was raised to always offer my seat to a lady..." -- Razor From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 12:10:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA10140 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 11:59:54 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA10128 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 11:59:50 -0500 Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA05910 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 11:59:20 -0500 Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 11:59:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199603031659.LAA05910@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: Green (Kat) thumbs... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 12:25 AM 3/3/96 -0800, you wrote: >if his plants were perennials or evergreens. ;-) (Does it really matter >in Megakat City?) Probably not. I don't recall any episode that seemed to be in a different "season" than the rest. Perhaps the city is near the equator, so the weather doesn't vary that much. But then, according to the garage calendar, it's usually July, right? A few other things I noticed about that episode (Destructive Nature): The air conditioning system in the building was set very low, cold enough to freeze the plant creature. Does this suggest the Kats would be more comfortable in a cooler climate than MegaKat city? Manx was entertaining foriegn company representives, trying to convince them to come to his new building and MegaKat city. This suggests there are other cities on the planet. Do they have similar problems with super villians? When Callie hits him over the head, Razor says "Good thing they make us wear helmets." Who is the "us" that makes safety rules for the Swat Kats? Couple notes in general: Has anyone even SEEN the MegaKat City Police Department? The one that keeps putting up the "do not cross" yellow tapes with "M. C. P. D." on them. To whoever was looking for younger kats, watch the background of the Mayor's golf games. There are almost always a few kat kids of various ages standing around. Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 15:16:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA20778 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:07:02 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA20772 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:06:59 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.171] (dyn1171.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.171]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA07864 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:08:14 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:05:09 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Season 2--re-evaluation Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>ANIMATION: >>Cry Turmoil also had a hint of this technic (sp?). Other >>episodes, like Mutation City, had HORRIBLE animation, >>especially with T-B and Razor. >>Watch that scene in the obstacle course in Mutation City > >I think what's happened is that Mook's anime style has "leaked" into the >animation and over-rode the style sheets. I think that in "A Bright and Shiny Future" Mook's anime style got spilled into the whole episode. Of course that isn't necesary a bad thing you know. ;-) BTW, I think that the best Anime-ish background is probaly in "The Deadly Pyramid" when Razor scratch the mummy visor. >IMO, I like the action & story >behind that scene and the animation isn't really _that_ bad -- just a little >different. I think that "Mutation City" is probably Doc Conway's favorite episode. ;-) >I think my favorite style is that from "Katastrophe" - it's probably my >favorite story too. "Unlikely Alloys" was good too, I like on how Zed was drawn (It was drawn with one eye. One mean evil looking eye.). > -Matt >mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "They're everywhere!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 15:39:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA20902 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:08:14 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA20896 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:08:11 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.171] (dyn1171.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.171]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA07927 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:09:24 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:06:21 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Is MegaKat a quiet place? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Is MegaKat city a quiet place at night time? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 15:44:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA20762 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:06:52 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA20753 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:06:49 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.171] (dyn1171.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.171]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA07853 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:08:04 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:04:59 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: The kats in your eyes Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Artur Hara wrote: >Hi people, > >Other day I was watching Dr. Sinian and I saw special things in your >characteristics, she looked a latin woman. "Tanned" hair and dark eyes. >I think that she is very hot internally, Very hot internally??? Heh. Spontaneus combustion. :-) >although she looked calm outside. >To me she was alike with Rachel Ticotin, but with less strong character, >although with looked body. Looked body??? what is that? >I thought that Felina be alike Sandra Bullock, the same wild virtue, >emotions and speed. Eyes and hairs certainly. I think that I just found a fanfic reason on why Felina was missing from the first season. :-) >I didn't find a woman that be alike Callie. That's because she is special, that's why. >Would she be Bridget Fonda? Or Jane? I think that the last is more >probable. Why? She was in great politic activity in 60's/70's I think. >Callie is deputy mayor, maybe the later phase of Jane. How do someone get choosen as Deputy Mayor in MegaKat city anyway? I'm curious here. BTW, I don't think that she is a politician, but I do think that she has a potential to be a politician. >Meanwhile >Callie is special, her nose, mouth and cheeks became her very singular. Her nose is pink (I doubt that you will find someone in real life that has a real pink nose.), her dress is quite unique (Believe me, her dress is _different_.), her... Hey! wait a minute, why do we suddenly talking about this? >... The OFFICIAL tagline of the 1996 Olympics! >___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 15:46:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA20909 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:08:18 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA20904 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:08:15 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.171] (dyn1171.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.171]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA07932 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:09:29 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:06:24 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: The truth is out there. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net How many SWAT Kats fan are there on planet Earth? And how many kats on MegaKat city? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 15:55:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA20806 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:07:31 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA20799 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:07:28 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.171] (dyn1171.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.171]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA07889 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:08:42 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:05:37 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Think about it... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net DJ wrote: >I've always wondered what happened to all those downed enforcer >choppers and planes. When Jake and Chance crashed once while they >where in the enforceres, they really were nailed for it. What happens >to the OTHER enforcers who crash into buildings? Well, Jake and Chance took their own action by disobeying Feral (Or at least questioned an order.). The other Enforcer follow Feral commands (BLINDLY, if they were order to jump from a building, THEY JUMP.), so if they crash into buildings, Feral will took all the responbilities from damage that those Enforcer caused. But Jake and Chance is on their own action when their craft accidentaly demolished the Enforcer building, they suffered from their own action. Besides, have you ever seen the other Enforcer walk away from the crash? they probaly never survive the crash to get yell by Commander Feral. >Feral must go through enforcers pretty fast. > > In my little world of SK (though I never bothered to mention it in >my fanfic), there was an old military base built beneath the salvage >yard long before our guys were there--probably before or during >MegaWar II. Of course, they had to update it, but . . . you have to >realize that the idea of Jake and Chance digging out and constructing >an entire hanger (without anyone realizing it, no less) is next to >impossible. Just don't send Sinian there, or else that SWAT Kats HQ gonna have a paranormal attack by ghost from MegaWar II. But then again, you did send her there don't you? Oh yeah I have a question, does MegaWar III ever happen on the SWAT Kats universe? > Dr. Jake ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "They're everywhere!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 16:01:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA20833 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:07:46 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA20825 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:07:43 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.171] (dyn1171.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.171]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA07897 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:08:59 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:05:54 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Name the Villain. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Ok people, lets do name the villain thing, lets build a list on villains that the SwatKats have fought. Who want to start first? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 16:05:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA20738 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:06:43 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA20732 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:06:40 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.171] (dyn1171.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.171]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA07845 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:07:53 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:04:48 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Cats and Kats. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Yep. We also see three other kats drowning. They are: Chance, the TurboKat, >>and Razor. > >I liked that scene, don't tell anyone, but I think I'm secretly a >sympathetic romantic. Shhhhh! Forget I said that!! Drowning is romantic??? >>Well, he's kitty litter now. > >Pun intended, I assume? Sure! :-) >>How about if I lock the cat (Or kats.) in a car and then push the car into >>a liquid enviornment? will that will work too? Of course it will work! if >>it work for us humans, I guess that it will work for cats (Or kats.). > >Do NOT hurt the cat, or your sister won't be the only one who'll never speak >to you again!! I like cats! They're my favorite animals!! Don't worry, I will never do that to cats (Or kats.), or to any other living beings. >>I have, do you want to see a picture of them? :-) > >Yeah! What are their names!! (them?) Yes, "them". The are currently four cats living in my house. Burkam. (With luck, he will be in one of my fanfic story.) IP. (I told you that it has some meaning to me.) Ici. (Yeah I know, strange name indeed.) Utih. (A derivative from "Putih", which means white.) >>BTW, "Joys"? > >If you don't like real cats, then why do you like the Swat Kats so much?? I like real cats (My grandmother and my aunt is a cat lover too.), that is one of the reason I like SwatKats. But sometimes my cats do something that could jeopardize their health on this house. >I mean, even Courtney, a self-certified dog lover admits to liking certain >types of cats. (With a 'c' and not a 'k', that is!!!) Dogs are dogs, cats are cats, I think that is what make them so unique and loveable. BTW Terra, what is the new title for "Early Dawn"? I got one that is probaly will match to the story plot, how about "A Rose by any other name..."? >Terra Chang, >Swat Kats fan, Ok, back to kats, does kats still chases thing? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 16:10:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA20892 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:08:07 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA20885 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:08:04 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.171] (dyn1171.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.171]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA07921 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:09:14 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:06:13 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Think about it... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Do they got the tools to make a jet? > >They're mechanics. My dad isn't one, and he's got his own workshop. Besides, >any tools they don't have, Jake can make :-). If he got the parts to make one. >>Besides, they will get arrested if >>they take public property from the road (The scrap metal that was once >>called jets and choppers.). > >Once Burke & Murray tow it, it goes to the salvage yard. Even if it is >illegal (in the kat universe), the Enforcers are really gonna take their time >to examine the salvage yard for missing metal. Hmmm, I wonder what will happen if someone was send to the junkyard to check it's contents. >>I want to know how do they can take off from the hangar without somebody >>noticing that a strange black craft always flying over the junkyard. > >If you ever notice, the hole where the Turbokat comes out of the hangar is >surrounded by junk. Yes, but once they leave the hangar and flying above the junkyard, someone will notice it. >>Hmmm, I wonder if Jake once build a Mole missile look alike >>when he was a kitten. > >Here's a question. At what age would kittens be considered adult kats? I think that once they enter their reproductive age, they can be consider as adult kats. _If_ the kats use the cats system. >Real >cats are adults when they're less than a year old(I think). So, would kats >use that system, or would the age be more around ours? Humans interpret the terms "adult" differently. >Lt FFeral@aol.com >Melissa "Ann Phibian" Anne (Proud owner of the new Garth Brooks CD, not that >anyone cares.) ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "They're everywhere!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 16:12:05 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA20771 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:06:59 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA20765 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:06:55 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.171] (dyn1171.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.171]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA07857 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:08:06 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:05:01 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Season 2--re-evaluation Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net DJ wrote: >I while ago I made a comment that second season sucked, and >I got spammed for it a bit. So, as soon as I got the time, I decided >to go back and re-evaluate the season in a whole. Glad to know that. :-) >My last impressions >weren't too good--the last I had seen of the series where the >episodes where Razor (my favorite character, surprise surprise) was >drawn as a box. In which episode does Razor look like a box? >Even David Doi, in my phone conversation with him, said >those episodes simply weren't done well. So the season basically left a >bad taste in my mouth. Well, he was right in some cases. >Also, seaQuest also sucked in its second season >and I was kind of used to that first-season-was-cool-second-season-had- >all-these-bad-scripts thing. Sorry. It's all in your mind, fight it! it's only an illusion. Believe me, something is only bad if you think that it's bad. > I don't have time to go through ALL the episodes ONE by ONE, so >here are my general comments: > >PLOTS: > Again, a good range--this time similar to 1st season. We had >TERRIFIC stuff like Razor's Edge (MY favorite of the season) A good episode, of course I think that it wasn't necesary since that Razor's character always been visible through out the whole episodes. But that episode does answer a lot of things, and it also raises a lot of question. >and Cry >Turmoil, which I rate up with Metal Urgency and Katastrophe. "Unlikely Alloys" was good too, but I don't know, it seem that something is missing, something about MegaKat seem ain't feel right. Oh well, probaly only just my feelings. >Origin >of Dr. Viper was OK too, it was good for fanfics, but I suppose it could >have been done better had it been given more time. On the other hand, >Volcanus Eruptus and Unplugged, basically sucked--nothing but fight >scenes. I think that the SwatKats already mention the reason on why they have to fight through out the whole episode. And I also think that in "Razor's Edge", their reason on why they have to fly was mention too. I liked "SwatKats Unplugged", it got a very amusing hangar scene, and it also proves that you don't need to have a long scene to make something good. >Mutation City was interesting, but again the animation was so >unbearable I can't watch it that often. Well, I will watch it often. But then again, I don't like organic things, I think that my true purpose here is to replace all organic beings with machines. >We also had that mining plot, >which was unfortunately a repeat of that cicadas episode. I think that the mining plot episode that you were talking about is called "Caverns of Horror". BTW, It seem that we always have a villain (Or thing) attacking the city thing or at least a villain (Or thing) attacking the SwatKats thing, how about an accident that happen to MegaKat city? or at least the SwatKats preventing an accident from ever happening? >CHARACTERS: > Felina Feral was the greatest thing to happen in season 2. Her >character was awesome, getting away from that damsel-in-distress stuff >we saw so much off in season 1. I much prefer to use the saying "kitten-in-distress" (Or at least "kitten in a tree that cann't come down.") than "damsel-in-distress", since that cats (Or kats.) always get in trouble. >Also, we saw some great stuff among female clothing-- >both Cally and Abi had episodes where they weren't wearing slim skirts >and business outfits. Cally had her own little car stunt in Mutation City, >and Abi was brave enough in Deadly Pyramid. Oh yeah, and even Anne Gora >got into pants. What is this? a fashion pageant? Oh yeah, back to the clothes. Dr.Sinian look great in "The Deadly Pyramid", and Ann seem to be a lot older in the second season episodes (Which is BTW a good thing, since that she look like a kitten in the first season episodes.). > As for males, we saw some GREAT stuff in Razor's Edge with Razor Well, I haven't see Jake wear any other clothes on "Razor's Edge". Of course unless you mean that "Razor Edge" reflect Razor's character? Well, Razor's character always been reflected in every SwatKats episodes. >and T-Bone in Cry Turmoil. Yeah, he look big on that Flight Commander uniform, he look sorta like Feral but only much younger. BTW, I think I read somewhere in the Animato's article about "'Kats" that in the original story of "Cry Turmoil", the one that was supposed to get hitch with Turmoil is Commander Feral. >Feral--well, I suppose he'll always be Feral, Feral is Feral, he hate the SwatKats because they broke every rule that he know. >and Manx'll always be Manx. I don't have any problem with that. Manx is a mayor, mayor supposed to act that way. He will be kicked out the mayor position if he doesn't act that way. > Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 16:15:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA20756 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:06:50 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA20746 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:06:47 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.171] (dyn1171.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.171]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA07850 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:07:59 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:04:54 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: A reply to Yang's "Lost in Cyberspace". Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Edo> Have you guys ever think about the Kats as a parent? >How about the other end of the spectrum? Has anyone thought about >what the guys would be like as kids? I have, and thinking writing a story about it (Of course assuming that my first fanfic will ever got finished.). >Would they know each other? Well, in my story they once meet. But never meet again until they join the Enforcer, and already forget each other by the time they meet again. >Maybe they were childhood friends and one convinved the other to >join the enforcers. I think that Andy's idea of they meet in the Enforcer academy and started helping each other is probaly what happen to the guys. >I'd like to think that they were friends as >kids as the bond they share is far too strong to be forged just >during their academy days. People can be good friends in just a few days. BTW, have you guys ever think what will the guys look like if they just a regular Earthling cat (That's with a "c" and not with a "k") ? >Edo> what could cause the appearance of a big moon? >It's an optical illusion. If you look at the moon of our world, >the closer it is to the horizon, the bigger it seems to be. Well, I saw the moon is above MegaKat city, and not close to the horizon. >The >farther away the moons is from the horizon, the smaller it seems >to be. However, if you take a ruler and measure the moon, you'll >find the moon does not actually "change size." I'm not sure, >however, why the moon seems bigger the close it is to the horizon. But a moon that is large enough to cover an entire kat? Oh yeah, speaking of sky object, their sun seem to be bigger than ours too. >Matt> Could it be possible that Dark Kat is actually Cmdr. Feral's >Matt> brother and Felina's father? >Nah. First of all, when Felina's risking her neck in "A Bright >and Shiny Future", Feral says he would throw her of the force for >her own protection but "my brother would never speak to me again". I think that Feral is worry about Felina's safety. Maybe the reason Felina doesn't show up at the first season is because Feral give her too much paperwork to do (This is a fanfic for a story plot only and not the real thing.) for preventing her to go out, and at the second season, Feral probaly feel bad about giving her too much paperwork and he decided to let her go out of the Enforcer building. And her first outside duty in the second season after Feral let her out is doing a regular night helichopter patrol, Feral think that nothing will happen at that night, so he just send her out for a patrol ... alone. >Clearly, Ulysses (sp?) cares for his brother very much, yet seems >to hate Dark Kat with an almost unnatural passion. Besides, that >would really be too soap-opera-ish for the series. Bleh. But it will make a great plot twist, just like Steel and Razor brotherhood. :-) Of course that will never happen in the series. >LtFFeral> How many of you out there are blessed with the joys of >LtFFeral> having an actual Cat? >Well, you can add my name to the list. My cat's name is "Johnathon" >although he has a chinese name "Mao Bi" which means "Brush Pen" >because he used to like to drink ink.... Cats seem to have strange habits, yours drink ink?? >Not a cat that's going to be piloting the TurboKat anytime soon. But probaly got a bright and shiny future on drawing cartoons. :-) >B-ko> Yes, they're appearing in my dreams now, too!! >You too? I recently had a dream about the SWAT Kats, A dream of either T-Bone, Razor, Jake, and Chance may seem to be normal (After all, they are the SwatKats, and the series ia about the SwatKats.), but another character from the SwatKats universe? I ask once, I ask again, is this normal? do I need some psyhciatric treament? >Edo> Does anybody here want to make a fanfic story when the >Edo> SwatKats is having s strange dream sequence? >Well, in my story, "The Golden Child", Jake has a dream sequence >but I'm not happy with it as I think it gives too much away at the >begining but it's too hard to re-write. *sigh* Cut some scene from the dream that is revealing the story too much, make it look like your dream. That will certainly give some thing different. BTW, can I read your story? >Edo> "thaurmaturgy" and "demonology"? >Thaurmaturgy is "magic", I think this is what our magicians call >their own magic. Can "Technomages" can be consider as magicians? >Demonology is the study of demons, like their >names, what are their sphere of influence, and what is their >position in the heirarchy of Hell. In another word, it's all about demons, right? >To link this with SWAT Kats, >what kind of demons do you think are in Kat mythology? Ted Turner? :-) >chance> Turner's Public Relations 2IC has been reading the katmail >chance> for the last two months >I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing. It's a good >thing if they see how many people are on the list and really enjoyed >the SWAT Kats (esp. if they were here for the toys thread). It's >a bad thing if they pick up on what kind of wackos we *really* are. >Br) I guess that it is the same possibilities as if we fliping a coin and hoping that it will come out as tail. So I say that the chance is 50-50. >chance> "just under 6K" >Allow me to apologize again for that post. It's how I usually do >things since I only have enough time to post once a week (now) and >I really don't want to repeat things which have already been said. I like it the way you post the message, please don't change. >August Paul Yang may have to change his posting style. Please? :-) I really like the way you post the message. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 16:16:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA20918 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:08:29 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA20913 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:08:26 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.171] (dyn1171.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.171]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA07941 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:09:38 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:06:35 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Green (Kat) thumbs... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >At 12:25 AM 3/3/96 -0800, you wrote: > >>if his plants were perennials or evergreens. ;-) (Does it really matter >>in Megakat City?) > >Probably not. I don't recall any episode that seemed to be in a different >"season" than the rest. Perhaps the city is near the equator, so the weather >doesn't vary that much. Could be. >But then, according to the garage calendar, it's >usually July, right? Just like what I said before in this list, MegaKat city seem to be stuck in a time warp. >A few other things I noticed about that episode (Destructive Nature): > >The air conditioning system in the building was set very low, cold enough to >freeze the plant creature. Does this suggest the Kats would be more >comfortable in a cooler climate than MegaKat city? Just like what you said before, MegaKat city could be near the equator. >Manx was entertaining foriegn company representives, trying to convince them >to come to his new building and MegaKat city. This suggests there are other >cities on the planet. Do they have similar problems with super villians? Judging that cats (Or kats.) always got themself in trouble, I say that they could be having similar problem. >When Callie hits him over the head, Razor says "Good thing they make us wear >helmets." Who is the "us" that makes safety rules for the Swat Kats? "us"??? I think that you meaning "they". - The Tremblays Brother - Their parents - The Enforcer Want to add more? >Couple notes in general: > >Has anyone even SEEN the MegaKat City Police Department? The one that keeps >putting up the "do not cross" yellow tapes with "M. C. P. D." on them. M. C. P. D.??? >To whoever was looking for younger kats, watch the background of the Mayor's >golf games. There are almost always a few kat kids of various ages standing >around. Hmmm, what are those kids doing there anyway? > Max ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "They're everywhere!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 16:20:12 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA20870 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:07:58 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA20858 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:07:55 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.171] (dyn1171.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.171]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA07911 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:09:08 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:06:03 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Kat Decency Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >At 01:27 AM 2/26/96 +0700, you wrote: > >>Well, I think that Feral think that the SwatKats are playing some sort of >>game, and affraid that something will go wrong if they keep continue >>playing the game. > >Perhaps that is Feral's view, but think Feral hates the Swat Kats first and >foremost because they tend to get things done and make Feral look bad in the >process. Well that too, of course Feral won't be soo mad if the SwatKats isn't always can get away with all the destruction that the SwatKats caused. I assume that for every damages that happen in MegaKat city, the responbilities for fixing those damages will go to Commander Feral. >If you take time to count them up, you'll find considerably more ENFORCER >missiles destroying public property, and there are a lot more of them flying >around. :-) Well, the Enforcer can do that, after all, they are the official protector of MegaKat city, they got the "license to destroy". >Max ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "They're everywhere!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 16:25:59 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA20826 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:07:44 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA20819 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:07:40 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.171] (dyn1171.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.171]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA07893 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:08:48 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:05:48 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Season 2--re-evaluation Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> I don't have time to go through ALL the episodes ONE by ONE, so >>here are my general comments: > >I have watched all the episodes except episode 24 (What's it's name?) I think that there is 23 SWAT Kats episodes + 1 episode where Ann Gora interview the SwatKats (S.K.I.Q.). >and >have had time to evaluate and analyze the entire series from "Giant Bacteria >to episode 23 (Dark Side of the SWAT Kats or Unlikly Alloys) so here are my >comments for both seasons. These are just my ideas. Be free to make your own. "Unlikely Alloys" was the last SWAT Kats episode to be drawn. "Turmoil II: Revenge", "Doctors of Doom", "Curse of Kataluna" are the SWAT Kats episodes that was never finished. >>ANIMATION: > >Season one showed a refreshing change from terrable "foregrounds" (The >moving gunk) and realistic backgrounds. Many scenes showed signs of two >shades of color to represent shadows, while others lacked. (Hey, it's VERY >difficult to draw like that!!) I cann't draw, so any animation is fine with me. :-) >Overall, the series was much more realistlc >than any other H-B production. Agreed. >Season two displayed average anime style with below average backgrounds, >excepting "Deadly Pyramid", which showed average anime throughout. Also >showing many different styles, the second season generally had more action >scenes and seemed generally at night, giving the animation a whole new style >of it's own. Hmmm, I always wanted to see the kats fighting in the rain. >>PLOTS: > >Season one had plots that were very develpoed. Many seemed to be solved by >trial and error, chance and logic. Elemants that generally are more >suspensfull, but other times, can drag on. > >Season two had plots less developed, but generally went quicker and more >intense because the goals seemed to be in sight, but out of reach, so to speak. I think that the first season episodes is dedicated on character building, while the second season episodes is dedicated for action. Hmmm, I wonder what will happen in the third season episodes. >>If I think of anything more to say I'll send out another note. > >I don't have enough time to put down my entire analyses, and besides, it get >tecnical. (and I don't like translating tecnical into English) That's ok, I'll read your analyses, no matter how technical it is. >gvvy03c >_______________________________________ >Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley >SWAT Kats Extremist >Good thing you can't see me in person!! >_______________________________________ ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "They're everywhere!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 16:29:12 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA20857 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:07:55 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA20839 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:07:50 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.171] (dyn1171.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.171]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA07906 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:09:04 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:05:59 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Kat Decency Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>We have always seen the Kats clothed, but is it acceptable in thier society >>to not wear anything at all? >> >I think that in the Kat's universe, a nude kat is the same as a nude human. Of course unless Scaredy Kat is another species of kats. >Jake and Razor are the same guy, tecnacly (however spelt) and T-Bone and >Chance are the same guy, tecnacly. Yes they are the same kat technicaly, but they are a different kat when they have changes into the SwatKats. >I have never understood exactly the Kat's transformation from, calm and >assertave to steatly and aggressave. It's like accelerating from 60 mph to 100 mph, things are the same, but something is different. >Oh well. I go from calm and passave to >hyper and out of control if I don't get enough sleep. People sometimes act strange when ever they didn't get enough sleep. >>watching a cartoon with a nude Kat in it.(Before you >>ask, I don't know which show it was from) > >I think it was either "Giant Bacteria", "Ghost pilot", or "The Wrath of Dark >Kat". One of the three. How about "The Metallikats"? Scaredy Kat was shown there too. >>Now, nude Kats (or cats) are perfectly acceptable in cartoons in OUR world, > >Right (tounge roll on the "R"). Nude cats, yes, nude kats, no (I speak out >of past trauma and excperiance) Watching nude cats is excusable, since that we consider that cats are animal here. Watching nude kats (Assuming that we talking about SWAT Kats's "kats" here.) can mean two things, one : Is excusable just as long that Scaredy Kat isn't too human-like (I forget the word, is it "anthromorphic"?), two : Not something that is in a public TV, since that if Scaredy Kat get too human-like and doesn't wear clothes, it will be a nude kat that doesn't wear clothes and will censored out. And I think that razor here once mention that someone is more human-like (Realistic.) on the second season animation, can you imagine what will happen if that particular character is naked? Now a question, why does the Metallikats doesn't wear clothes? and why does Rex Shard doesn't wear clothes when he was a crystal being. >>but a cartoon with a nude human generally would not be. How does all this >apply in to the Kats Universe? > >Same as our world. I'll have to review my tapes here (If this kat was a guy >[and I think it is], I think that Scaredy Kat is definetly a male. >could this mean that the SWAT Kats are gay [UGH! >SOMEBODY HELP ME! I'M THINKING TED THOUGHTS!!!!!!!!]) Hmmm, two guys living in the same roof.... Does Jake and Chance have any other friends beside themself? >>Max >_______________________________________ >Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley >SWAT Kats Extremist >Good thing you can't see me in person!! >_______________________________________ ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "They're everywhere!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 16:29:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA20743 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:06:45 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA20733 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:06:41 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.171] (dyn1171.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.171]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA07842 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:07:41 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:04:38 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: A reply to Yang's "This is what happens when I don't read my e-mail! Br)". Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Edo> how is the Turbocat look like ? >Hurm. I'll have to either get a picture the next time I'm in Hong >Kong or ask my parents to send a copy over. It's kinda hard to >describe. Where did you ride the Turbocat? I'm curious here. Since that I too was once in Hong Kong, and have taken some water transportation. >Konway Br)> Do they have an equivalent of Christmas? >Do they even have winter? I've seen nary a flake come from the >skies of MegaKat City. Maybe MegaKat City is near the kat planet's Equator lines. >Terra> What about other animals? >There have also been mentions of raccoons. Also, snakes, frogs, >and other reptiles have been seen on-screen, as well as cows and >birds. How about Dolphins? >chance> why put the Metallikats back together so many times? >Huh? He put them back to together *once*. Then he wanted to >reprogram them, but they destroyed the disks with the new >programming. You couldn't program someone to do good, that is immoral (Not to mention that isn't very nice thing to do.). I think that Hackle should put a deactivating switch on the Metallikats, so that when ever the Metallikats go out of control, he can turn off them off. >chance> they perhaps wanted to have a female character take on >chance> a more direct role in the action, but couldn't picture >chance> Callie crawling through the muck on her elbows holding >chance> a rocket launcher How about picturing her carrying a decrystalizer ray gun? >Well, being deputy mayor probably requires her to have some form >of decorum, but she still manages to get in a few good shots >every now and then. I think that the reason on why she isn't using a rocket launcher is because she isn't an Enforcer! that's why! (You need some training on using a rocket launcher. Well, if you want to shot it in the right way.) Besides, she doesn't have Commander Feral as her role model when she's just a little kitten. >Like when she floors Dark Kat with a bag >of money in the episode where *she* saves the SWAT Kats' fur. Although that she can act tough if she want to. :-) I think that she will act that way when ever the situation need her to do so. >Dr. Jake> Jake almost runs him over with the truck (he's a lousy >Dr. Jake> driver). >Sorry, but I have to leap to the defense of my favorite kat (and >apparently everyone else's. Br) Razor is a good driver. But it seem that when ever he drives, everybody has to stay away from the road. >Jake may not pilot the TurboKat >24/7, but he can handle everything all by his lonesome if need be. >Like in Mutation City, when T-Bone mutates into a kat/frog hybrid, I liked the fight scene between T-Bone and Razor when T-Bone is a mutated kat. It's very cat like. >Razor not only flies rings around a Godzilla-sized Dr. Viper, but >manages to mix the two-component anti-mutagen, and saves the city. >(There. I said it. I feel better. Br) Blep.Blep.Blep.Blep.Blep.... >Terra> Aren't calico cats s'posed to have many colored coats? >Yup. And Manx cats aren't supposed to have tails. I'm curious here, on what way do they put tail on the kats? >Matt> He (Dr. Greenbox) kinda went off the deep-end near the end >Matt> of that ep. and actually turned into a villian. I think that Greenbox cares for Zed, and want to be near with Zed forever (After all, Greenbox is Zed's father, and a father always loves his kid.). Greenbox gives the information that Zed needs, just like what William Decker did with V'ger at ST:TMP. >Evil thought here folx (I have quite a few of them). What >if Rex, in a later incarnation, teams up with the insane Dr. >Greenbox? If anyone want to use this for a fanfic idea, feel >free. I've got more ideas for fanfic than time to write. The same goes for here, lots of idea, cann't write a single story. BTW, Greenbox insane??? Nah, I think that he just the type of guy that always screw things up. >chance> We could've looked forward to yet _another_ revision had >chance> a movie been pitched.... >chance> ...the Tremblays were contemplating animatronics and >chance> Live-action a la TMNT! >Eew. I'm going to have to throw my lot with those who thinks this >would have been a "Bad Idea"(tm). The same goes here. BTW, about this human thing, should human be brought to the kat planet? And if human do appear on SwatKats, is it going to be a cartoon human or a real life human? >And there is very little reason for it. >Humans don't appear in the Kat Universe all that >frequently, so the need for live-action is minimized. Unless the SwatKats is katnapped by humans and taken to Earth. Then we really gonna know that the SwatKats do live on another planet. >Also, in >the Animato episode guide, the person writing it said that the >animation was almost feature quality, and Mook has experience >in producing animated features. Of course, making a film to >occupy an audience for ninety minutes is far different from >making a 22 minute episode. Why make a ninety minutes film? can we just start with 60 minutes first? I think that the SwatKats first movie should start small first as a first time movie. >Ed> Of course this begs the question of why he dislikes the >Ed> SWAT Kats _so_ much. >Well, in the first season, he really let the guys have it. >But for the most part, this was before the SWAT Kats started >saving his life on a regular basis. Of course he owe them nothing, and the SwatKats owe him nothing. BTW, is Feral supposed to safe SwatKats's fur in the original "Cry Turmoil"? >Also, he sees that Felina >cares about them in the second season so he's not so quick >to condemn. He keep his opinion on the SwatKats to himself. >And in the second season, he gets to zing the guys >at least once. ("Actually, I was going to thank you, but I >changed my mind." 'Revenge is mine!' sayeth the hologram! Br) Well, of course since that he has change his mind, I guess that he still hate them, I think that it gonna take more than Felina to convince him that the SwatKats are really a nice guy. BTW, I think that the reason on why he want to thank them, is because the whole thing is already unstopable by the Enforcer, and Feral take any help if the situation is really that uncontrolable by the Enforcer. ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "They're everywhere!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 17:06:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA26057 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 16:46:16 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA25924 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 16:46:11 -0500 Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA06438 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 16:45:42 -0500 Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 16:45:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199603032145.QAA06438@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: Green (Kat) thumbs... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >M. C. P. D.??? Yep. There's been a few scenes where you'll see the disaster area roped off with yellow tapes, and those are the initials on it. What else could it stand for other than Megakat City Police Department? >Hmmm, what are those kids doing there anyway? I'd guess they are being bored by the mayor's golf game like the rest of us. :-) They're just part of the crowd watching the game. Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 18:02:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA01370 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 17:52:00 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA01362 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 17:51:57 -0500 Received: from bossrkf2.bossnt.com (bossrkf2.bossnt.com [198.150.207.42]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA06541 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 17:51:17 -0500 Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 17:51:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199603032251.RAA06541@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: peej@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Peejster Subject: Re: Name the Villain. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 03:05 AM 3/4/96 +0700, you wrote: >Ok people, lets do name the villain thing, lets build a list on villains >that the SwatKats have fought. > >Who want to start first? > > > The Metallikats Peej From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 19:43:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA05824 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 19:31:59 -0500 Received: from tribeca.ios.com (root@tribeca.ios.com [198.4.75.48]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA05763 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 19:31:44 -0500 Received: from wntrmute.ios.com (ppp-65.ts-9.hck.idt.net [169.132.51.137]) by tribeca.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA01679 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 19:30:48 -0500 Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 19:30:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199603040030.TAA01679@tribeca.ios.com> X-Sender: wntrmute@tribeca.ios.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: wntrmute@tribeca.ios.com (August Yang) Subject: Re: Name the Villain. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net And now for you e-mailing pleasure... Tonight only at the MegaKat City TurboDome DARK KAT AND THE KREEPLINGS!!!! (sfx:Much applause and huzzahs) August Paul Yang should get more of his perscription soon. -- wntrmute@tribeca.ios.com | For my Life Public Relations and Official Test Audience for the FDC | Still ahead, "Shakespeare would have loved your ratings system. | Pity me. -Queen Twelfth Night would have been lucky to have lasted one." -Max Headroom From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 20:57:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA10686 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 20:46:58 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA10639 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 20:46:51 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA08766 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 20:33:44 -0500 Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 20:31:41 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.02658687.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Season 2--re-evaluation Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>episodes where Razor (my favorite character, surprise surprise) was >>drawn as a box. >In which episode does Razor look like a box? Mutation City, Unlikely Alloys, and parts of Caverns of Horror. >>Also, we saw some great stuff among female clothing-- >>both Cally and Abi had episodes where they weren't wearing slim skirts >>and business outfits. Cally had her own little car stunt in Mutation City, >>and Abi was brave enough in Deadly Pyramid. Oh yeah, and even Anne Gora >>got into pants. >What is this? a fashion pageant? Oh yeah, back to the clothes. Dr. Sinian >look great in "The Deadly Pyramid", and Ann seem to be a lot older in the >second season episodes (Which is BTW a good thing, since that she look like >a kitten in the first season episodes.). I don't care to much for Ann Gora, but Dr. Sinian is definitely my favorite character on the whole show, so it was nice to see her out of that DAMN MINISKIRT to help me visualize for fanfics. BTW, I'm not too fond of Cally either. >> As for males, we saw some GREAT stuff in Razor's Edge with Razor >Well, I haven't see Jake wear any other clothes on "Razor's Edge". Of >course unless you mean that "Razor Edge" reflect Razor's character? Well, >Razor's character always been reflected in every SwatKats episodes. Oh sorry, by that point I had moved on to character analysis. No, I actually like Jake in those overalls, though they looked pretty bad in "Metal Urgancy" for some reason. His hands got too big and his limbs too thick. >>and T-Bone in Cry Turmoil. >Yeah, he look big on that Flight Commander uniform, he look sorta like >Feral but only much younger. If I had been talking about fashion statements still (I didn't make that too clear, did I?) I would have mentioned I hated that STUPID UNIFORM! IT SUCKED IT SUCKED IT SUCKED! Razor's comment, "What's with the outfit?" Was just SO appropriate. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 3 21:17:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA12488 for kats-ll; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 20:58:42 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA12483 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 20:58:39 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA29580 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 20:37:36 -0500 Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 20:35:36 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.02659031.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Think about it... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>my fanfic), there was an old military base built beneath the salvage >>yard long before our guys were there--probably before or during >>MegaWar II. Of course, they had to update it, but . . . you have to >>realize that the idea of Jake and Chance digging out and constructing >>an entire hanger (without anyone realizing it, no less) is next to >>impossible. >Just don't send Sinian there, or else that SWAT Kats HQ gonna have a >paranormal attack by ghost from MegaWar II. But then again, you did send >her there don't you? The foundation is only laid for their relationship in my first fanfic. >Oh yeah I have a question, does MegaWar III ever happen on the SWAT Kats >universe? Are you asking me or the list? Not in my stories, it doesn't. > Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 4 08:59:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA29414 for kats-ll; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:43:07 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA29406 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:43:03 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.68] (dyn1068.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.68]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA19605 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:44:18 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:41:14 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Triangles Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >If the triangles are pink, could that mean T-Bone and Razor are living an >'alternate' lifestyle in the Kat universe? "'alternate' lifestyle"??? >After all, there are many >similarities between our world and the Kats' world. I'm confuse here, please help me. > Peejster From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 4 09:08:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA29422 for kats-ll; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:43:11 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA29415 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:43:08 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.68] (dyn1068.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.68]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA19608 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:44:21 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:41:17 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: A stray Kat thought... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >As a result, I've occasionally wondered >if flea infestations/epidemics been a recurring problem in Megakat City. >(If not, it'd be an interesting plot device, at least.) > >Comments? Yes, that will make a great plot device, I think that maybe it's maybe time that the SwatKats fight a disaster (Or something like that.) instead fighting a villain thing. >-- >=================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== > Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia >"I was raised to always offer my seat to a lady..." -- Razor ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "The past cann't exist without the future." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 4 09:13:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA29456 for kats-ll; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:44:23 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA29444 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:44:20 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.68] (dyn1068.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.68]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA19668 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:45:25 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:42:30 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Think about it... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Just don't send Sinian there, or else that SWAT Kats HQ gonna have >>a paranormal attack by ghost from MegaWar II. But then again, >>you did send her there don't you? > >The foundation is only laid for their relationship in my first fanfic. Cann't wait to read your story. :-) >>Oh yeah I have a question, does MegaWar III ever happen on the SWAT >>Kats universe? > >Are you asking me or the list? Not in my stories, it doesn't. I'm asking the whole list. >> Dr. Jake ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "The past cann't exist without the future." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 4 09:13:48 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA29396 for kats-ll; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:42:57 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA29386 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:42:51 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.68] (dyn1068.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.68]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA19581 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:43:52 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:41:00 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Tail... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Edo wrote: >>Have you guys ever noticed that the tail between kats aren't different? Matt.W wrote: >I don't think that's entirely true.. >Tiger Concklin (sp?), the mine operator in "Caverns of Horror" had a >different tail than the rest of the Kats as far as I can remember.. I mean that some of their tail look like was differented according to their classes (If there is some sort of class in the kats civilization.), I think that there is two classes on the Kat world, alley kat and house kat. Although that there is Felina and Ann that is confusing me on my theory on tails. Felina is a Feral kat (Alley kat.), but her tail is a bushy type of tail. Ann is a house kat, but her tail look like it belong to an alley kat. I'm confuse here, HELP! ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "The past cann't exist without the future." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 4 09:21:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA29442 for kats-ll; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:44:06 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA29437 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:44:03 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.68] (dyn1068.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.68]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA19651 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:45:09 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:42:12 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Green (Kat) thumbs... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>M. C. P. D.??? > >Yep. There's been a few scenes where you'll see the disaster area roped off >with yellow tapes, and those are the initials on it. What else could it >stand for other than Megakat City Police Department? Strange, most city use their name as initials for the police departement initials, like the New York Police Departement was called "N. Y. P. D" and the Los Angeles Police Departement was called "L. A. P. D.". Is the full name of MegaKat is "MegaKat City" or "MegaKat"? >>Hmmm, what are those kids doing there anyway? > >I'd guess they are being bored by the mayor's golf game like the rest of us. >:-) I like golf, I don't mind watching the mayor playing golf. But then again, I don't want to watch the Manx golf tourmanent in "Chaos in Crystal". >They're just part of the crowd watching the game. What are they doing there anyway? kitten usualy doesn't hang around in a golf course. Park yes, sandboxes yes, but golf course? >Max BTW, have anybody here visit the IRC lately? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 4 13:36:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA21883 for kats-ll; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 13:21:26 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA21878 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 13:21:23 -0500 Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA08333 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 13:20:41 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 13:20:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199603041820.NAA08333@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: Green (Kat) thumbs... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 08:42 PM 3/4/96 +0700, you wrote: >Strange, most city use their name as initials for the police departement >initials, like the New York Police Departement was called "N. Y. P. D" and >the Los Angeles Police Departement was called "L. A. P. D.". Is the full >name of MegaKat is "MegaKat City" or "MegaKat"? I'd venture to say the city's full name is "MegaKat City". It's spelled out that way on public buildings, and I don't recall anyone on the show dropping the "city" part when saying it's name. The only place you tend to see MegaKat used alone is as part of private business names, not public ones. >What are they doing there anyway? kitten usualy doesn't hang around in a >golf course. Park yes, sandboxes yes, but golf course? Probably brought there by thier parents, much like human parents tend to take thier kids where ever they go. Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 4 14:48:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA22533 for kats-ll; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 13:39:51 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA22528 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 13:39:47 -0500 Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA08359 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 13:39:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 13:39:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199603041839.NAA08359@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: A stray Kat thought... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >As a result, I've occasionally wondered >if flea infestations/epidemics been a recurring problem in Megakat City. >(If not, it'd be an interesting plot device, at least.) > >Comments? Fleas are probably still a problem at times, though I find it difficult (but humorous) to picture Jake and Chance scratching behind thier ears with thier back feet the way my cats always did. We do know that kats have still have trouble with hairballs, Razor has coughed one up, and there has been at least one voice over commerical pushing the latest "miracle cure" . You would think they would have licked that problem by now. :-) Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 4 15:09:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA26602 for kats-ll; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 14:17:52 -0500 Received: from genphysics.com (genphysics.com [206.215.35.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA26597 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 14:17:49 -0500 Received: from mailgate.genphysics.com (11.2.1.6) by mail.genphysics.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.60) with SMTP id ; Mon, 04 Mar 1996 14:17:39 -0500 Received: by mailgate.genphysics.com with Microsoft Mail id <313B41C9@mailgate.genphysics.com>; Mon, 04 Mar 96 14:17:29 EST From: "Roberts, Steve" To: "'Kats List'" Subject: RE: Green (Kat) thumbs... Date: Mon, 04 Mar 96 14:31:00 EST Message-ID: <313B41C9@mailgate.genphysics.com> Encoding: 11 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >What are they doing there anyway? kitten usualy doesn't hang around in >a golf course. Park yes, >sandboxes< yes, but golf course? Or Katboxes maybe? Didn't I hear that they use TidyKat in the bunkers at MC Country Club? Think how convenient that would be. . .. No untimely runs back to the pro shop during a round of play, not to mention the added incentive to stay on the green. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 4 15:14:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA27533 for kats-ll; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 14:39:58 -0500 Received: from genphysics.com (genphysics.com [206.215.35.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA27528 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 14:39:55 -0500 Received: from mailgate.genphysics.com (11.2.1.6) by mail.genphysics.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.60) with SMTP id ; Mon, 04 Mar 1996 14:39:53 -0500 Received: by mailgate.genphysics.com with Microsoft Mail id <313B46FF@mailgate.genphysics.com>; Mon, 04 Mar 96 14:39:43 EST From: "Roberts, Steve" To: "'Kats List'" Subject: RE: The truth is out there. Date: Mon, 04 Mar 96 14:53:00 EST Message-ID: <313B46FF@mailgate.genphysics.com> Encoding: 10 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >How many SWAT Kats fan are there on planet Earth? My family accounts for three! Steve From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 4 15:44:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA27459 for kats-ll; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 14:38:34 -0500 Received: from genphysics.com (genphysics.com [206.215.35.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA27454 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 14:38:31 -0500 Received: from mailgate.genphysics.com (11.2.1.6) by mail.genphysics.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.60) with SMTP id ; Mon, 04 Mar 1996 14:38:20 -0500 Received: by mailgate.genphysics.com with Microsoft Mail id <313B46A1@mailgate.genphysics.com>; Mon, 04 Mar 96 14:38:09 EST From: "Roberts, Steve" To: "'Kats List'" , owner-kats Subject: RE: Name the Villain. Date: Mon, 04 Mar 96 14:51:00 EST Message-ID: <313B46A1@mailgate.genphysics.com> Encoding: 12 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Ok people, lets do name the villain thing, lets build a list on villains >that the SwatKats have fought. How about T-bone, and Razor's ulterior conterparts in the time warp thing that aired the second season? Anybody got a name for that episode? Steve From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 4 16:49:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA06117 for kats-ll; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:11:58 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA06112 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:11:56 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA25234 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:05:23 -0500 Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 16:03:22 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.02716791.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Think about it.../fanfic Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Cann't wait to read your story. :-) "Children of the Stone" is finished (somewhat officially), but was not correctly recieved by B-Ko. I'll resend it Friday, but it may take him a while to put it up because he's been having problems with his server. Anyone else have any fanfic? Haven't seen anything new in a good 2 months. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 4 16:57:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA06191 for kats-ll; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:14:14 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA06184 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:14:11 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA61408 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:02:56 -0500 Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 16:00:56 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.02716618.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: A stray Kat thought... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >We do know that kats have still have trouble with hairballs, Razor has >coughed one up, and there has been at least one voice over commerical >pushing the latest "miracle cure" . You would think they would have licked >that problem by now. :-) > Max Hey, you'd think WE'd have baldness licked by now--lots of men have it, none like it (including my dad). We can see someone sneeze from a satellite but not sure a think like hair loss--there's technology for ya. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 4 17:20:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA07062 for kats-ll; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:39:33 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA07049 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:39:29 -0500 Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.3/merit-2.0) with SMTP id QAA28417 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:39:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa10405; 4 Mar 96 16:43 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <313B8DAE@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Mon, 04 Mar 96 16:41:18 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: Kats list Subject: Re: Green (Kat) thumbs... Date: Mon, 04 Mar 96 16:40:00 PST Message-ID: <313B8DAE@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 16 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>M. C. P. D.??? >Yep. There's been a few scenes where you'll see the disaster area roped off >with yellow tapes, and those are the initials on it. What else could it >stand for other than Megakat City Police Department? Hmm.. how 'bout Megakat City Public (works) Department? As for it always being July... There are some 24 episodes and there's 31 days in July... Let's see.. that works out to about 1 major disaster per day.. hehehe! -Matt From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 4 17:21:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA10003 for kats-ll; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:04:30 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA09983 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:04:22 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.157] (dyn1157.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.157]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA06339 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 05:05:35 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 05:02:32 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: RE: Name the Villain. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Ok people, lets do name the villain thing, lets build a list on villains >>that the SwatKats have fought. > >How about T-bone, and Razor's ulterior conterparts in the time warp thing >that aired the second season? Anybody got a name for that episode? "The Dark Sides of the SwatKats." >Steve From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 4 17:42:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA09544 for kats-ll; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:52:37 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA09539 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:52:34 -0500 Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.3/merit-2.0) with SMTP id QAA28856 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:52:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa10421; 4 Mar 96 16:56 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <313B909C@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Mon, 04 Mar 96 16:53:48 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: Kats list Subject: Origin of Friendship Date: Mon, 04 Mar 96 16:52:00 PST Message-ID: <313B909C@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 19 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net This was in one of the mondo-posts: >>Maybe they were childhood friends and one convinved the other to >>join the enforcers. >I think that Andy's idea of they meet in the Enforcer academy and started >helping each other is probaly what happen to the guys. >>I'd like to think that they were friends as >>kids as the bond they share is far too strong to be forged just >>during their academy days. They couldn't have been friends as kids.. In "Bright & Shiny Future", Chance is telling Jake about Pops and the newspaper stand, and how he grew up in the neighborhood. Unless of course they became friends later, after Chance had to move away with his parents or something. -Matt From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 4 17:55:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA10935 for kats-ll; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:31:21 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA10925 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:31:18 -0500 Received: from bossrkf3.bossnt.com (bossrkf3.bossnt.com [198.150.207.43]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA08740 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:30:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:30:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199603042230.RAA08740@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: peej@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Peejster Subject: RE: The truth is out there. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 02:53 PM 3/4/96 EST, you wrote: > > > >>How many SWAT Kats fan are there on planet Earth? > >My family accounts for three! > >Steve > > > Count me in as one!! :-) Peej From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 4 21:07:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA25044 for kats-ll; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:48:58 -0500 Received: from genphysics.com (genphysics.com [206.215.35.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA25028 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:48:48 -0500 Received: from mailgate.genphysics.com (11.2.1.6) by mail.genphysics.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.60) with SMTP id ; Mon, 04 Mar 1996 20:48:39 -0500 Received: by mailgate.genphysics.com with Microsoft Mail id <313B9D69@mailgate.genphysics.com>; Mon, 04 Mar 96 20:48:25 EST From: "Roberts, Steve" To: "'Kats List'" Subject: RE: Think about it.../fanfic Date: Mon, 04 Mar 96 21:02:00 EST Message-ID: <313B9D69@mailgate.genphysics.com> Encoding: 10 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Anyone else have any fanfic? Haven't seen anything new in a good >2 months. Pardon my ignorance, but, what is a fanfic? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 4 22:03:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA29929 for kats-ll; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 21:48:52 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA29893 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 21:48:47 -0500 Received: from bossrkf2.bossnt.com (bossrkf2.bossnt.com [198.150.207.42]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA09178 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 21:48:07 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 21:48:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199603050248.VAA09178@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: peej@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Peejster Subject: RE: Think about it.../fanfic Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 09:02 PM 3/4/96 EST, you wrote: > > >>Anyone else have any fanfic? Haven't seen anything new in a good >>2 months. > > > >Pardon my ignorance, but, what is a fanfic? > > > Fanfics are original stories written by fans of the SK's or whatever else they are fans of. If I'm wring, can anyone correct me? Thanks! Peej From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 5 02:11:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA24445 for kats-ll; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 02:01:27 -0500 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com (mail02.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.66]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA24440 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 02:01:22 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA27169 for kats@bort.mv.net; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 02:00:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 02:00:51 -0500 Message-ID: <960305020051_438373377@mail02.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Think about it.../fanfic Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Anyone else have any fanfic? Haven't seen anything new in a good >2 months. > > Dr. Jake I'm currently working on one. (No name for it yet) I hope to be finished soon, but I've got so much stuff to do, I have no idea when I'll finish it. Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa "Anne Phibian" Anne HAPPY LEAP YEAR DAY !!! (Jump Forrest, Jump!!)..... Kat's Alive!! The date of March 16th is fast approaching!!!!! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 5 11:00:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA25247 for kats-ll; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:45:32 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA25229 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:45:28 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.212] (dyn1212.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.212]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA23133 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:46:42 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:43:39 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Think about it.../fanfic Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >At 09:02 PM 3/4/96 EST, you wrote: >> >>>Anyone else have any fanfic? Haven't seen anything new in a good >>>2 months. >> >>Pardon my ignorance, but, what is a fanfic? >> >Fanfics are original stories written by fans of the SK's or whatever else >they are fans of. If I'm wring, can anyone correct me? Thanks! Actualy, fanfic stands for "fan fiction", which mean that every posibilities that the fans dream on about the thing that they're are fans of. A fanfic story is a story that is written by fans. Not a canon, but sometime is fun to read it. > Peej ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "The past cann't exist without the future." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 5 11:15:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA25337 for kats-ll; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:45:37 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA25246 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:45:32 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.212] (dyn1212.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.212]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA23138 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:46:45 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:43:42 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Think about it.../fanfic Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Anyone else have any fanfic? Haven't seen anything new in a good >>2 months. >> >> Dr. Jake > >I'm currently working on one. (No name for it yet) Lt. Feral, long time no see, the last time I see you is in IRC. Speaking of IRC, does anybody here visit the IRC anymore? Oh yeah Lt, have you register yourself to the TurboKat Bot? BTW Lt, about the title for your story, lets discuss the title here. After all, A.J. once ask us about the name for his story. >I hope to be finished >soon, but I've got so much stuff to do, I have no idea when I'll finish it. Neither do I with my fanfic. >Lt FFeral@aol.com >Melissa "Anne Phibian" Anne ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "The past cann't exist without the future." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 5 11:15:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA24996 for kats-ll; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:45:15 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA24923 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:45:11 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.212] (dyn1212.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.212]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA23105 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:46:24 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:43:21 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: A stray Kat thought... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>You would think they would have licked that problem (Flea problem) >>by now. :-) > >> Max > >Hey, you'd think WE'd have baldness licked by now--lots of men have >it, none like it (including my dad). We can see someone sneeze from a >satellite but not sure a think like hair loss--there's technology for >ya. Lets talk about cancer shall we? Well, I'm a little bit confuse here, you mention that in your story Chance die because of a cancer. Well, I don't know much about kats biology, but I do know one thing about cats and cancer, they don't have them! For some reason, cats seem to be immune of cancer. Of course cats and kats are different, but I think that they still the same creature. > Dr. Jake ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "The past cann't exist without the future." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 5 11:30:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA25245 for kats-ll; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:45:31 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA25212 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:45:26 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.212] (dyn1212.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.212]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA23128 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:46:40 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:43:36 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Think about it.../fanfic Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Cann't wait to read your story. :-) > >"Children of the Stone" is finished (somewhat officially), Well my story is unofficialy finished, you see, the story is still in my gray matter. And some stuff do break up when you translated it to a text file, resulting an unpleasant story. >but was >not correctly recieved by B-Ko. I'll resend it Friday, but it may >take him a while to put it up because he's been having problems >with his server. I cann't wait no more, I want to see it. NOW! BTW DJ, how do you send the file to B-Ko? I thought that you cann't send file attachment. >Anyone else have any fanfic? Haven't seen anything new in a good >2 months. I have, but is it finished? Nope, it just floating there inside the wasteland (The term I use for my 'my mind'.). > Dr. Jake ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "The past cann't exist without the future." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 5 11:39:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA24975 for kats-ll; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:45:13 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA24864 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:45:08 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.212] (dyn1212.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.212]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA23097 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:46:20 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:43:17 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: A stray Kat thought... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>As a result, I've occasionally wondered >>if flea infestations/epidemics been a recurring problem in Megakat City. >>(If not, it'd be an interesting plot device, at least.) >> >>Comments? > >Fleas are probably still a problem at times, though I find it difficult (but >humorous) to picture Jake and Chance scratching behind thier ears with thier >back feet the way my cats always did. Nah, I don't think that they will use their back feet to scratch the itch behind their ears, after all they do got their hands (front feet.) to do that. Hmmm, I always wonder how do the kats act when it is mating season, they probaly will act in the same way Lwaxana "ST:TNG" Troi act when she went through some sort of Betazoid menopause. BTW, how about a flu epidemic? >We do know that kats have still have trouble with hairballs, Razor has >coughed one up, and there has been at least one voice over commerical >pushing the latest "miracle cure" . "A year supllies of hairball elimanator." - Razor's Edge. >You would think they would have licked >that problem by now. :-) Hmmm, flea collar. > Max ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "The past cann't exist without the future." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 5 11:45:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA25234 for kats-ll; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:45:29 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA25161 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:45:23 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.212] (dyn1212.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.212]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA23117 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:46:33 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:43:31 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Season 2--re-evaluation Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net DJ wrote: >>>episodes where Razor (my favorite character, surprise surprise) >>>was drawn as a box. > >>In which episode does Razor look like a box? > >Mutation City, Unlikely Alloys, and parts of Caverns of Horror. Well, I just saw "Mutation City" recently, and I have no problem watching Razor. But then again, I wasn't looking for Razor at the time, I was busy watc ... er, analyzing something else. >I don't care to much for Ann Gora, Well Ann is a vital part of the SwatKats universe, she is the SwatKats's PR kat. But there is something strange about her, I don't know why, it just feel strange. I also feel strange when ever someone has been cut of from an episode. >but Dr. Sinian is definitely my >favorite character on the whole show, I thought that Razor was your favorite character? >so it was nice to see her out >of that DAMN MINISKIRT to help me visualize for fanfics. "Abby Sinian and the Temple of Doom." What do you think about this particular title? :) Can you imagine her using a bullwhip? Heh. I think that Jake can. ;) >BTW, I'm not too fond of Cally either. >fans> Why are you building a shelter? and who is this "Cally" character? >>>As for males, we saw some GREAT stuff in Razor's Edge with >>>Razor > >>Well, I haven't see Jake wear any other clothes on "Razor's Edge". >>Of course unless you mean that "Razor Edge" reflect Razor's >>character? Well, Razor's character always been reflected in >>every SwatKats episodes. > >Oh sorry, by that point I had moved on to character analysis. Oh, I misunderstood the message. I thought that you still mentioning clothes. >No, I actually like Jake in those overalls, though they looked >pretty bad in "Metal Urgency" for some reason. His hands got too big >and his limbs too thick. Oh, I understand now. You like on how Jake's appearance in "Razor's Edge". >>>and T-Bone in Cry Turmoil. > >>Yeah, he look big on that Flight Commander uniform, he look sorta >>like Feral but only much younger. > >If I had been talking about fashion statements still (I didn't make >that too clear, did I?) No, you don't. I thought that you were mentioning clothes, I thought that you like Jake's outfit in "Razor's Edge" and T-Bone's uniform in "Cry Turmoil". >I would have mentioned I hated that STUPID UNIFORM! IT >SUCKED IT SUCKED IT SUCKED! Well, Turmoil seem to like that uniform, and what girl that doesn't want to see her kat in an uniform? After all, T-Bone look kinda cute in that uniform. >Razor's comment, "What's with the >outfit?" Was just SO appropriate. :):):) ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "The past cann't exist without the future." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 5 15:12:38 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA13693 for kats-ll; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 14:42:04 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA13679 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 14:42:01 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.32] (dyn1032.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.32]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA01267 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 02:43:15 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 02:40:12 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Name the Villain. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Ok people, lets do name the villain thing, lets build a list on villains >that the SwatKats have fought. Dark Kat (How do you spell his name anyway?) Dark SwatKats Turmoil Hard Drive MadKat Mutilor Dr. Viper Rex Shard The Metallikats The Pastmaster Ci-Kat-A Red Lynx And my favorite is Zed. I think that I like Zed is because Zed lines itself between a villain and someone who are confuse, is too bad that Zed was destroyed in "Unlikely Alloys". But then again, does Zed really destroyed? Maybe it will come back just like V'Ger did in "ST: The Motion Picture". ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Third planet of the Sol system." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 5 15:29:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA13678 for kats-ll; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 14:42:01 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA13671 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 14:41:58 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.32] (dyn1032.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.32]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA01262 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 02:43:10 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 02:40:08 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Green (Kat) thumbs... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >At 08:42 PM 3/4/96 +0700, you wrote: > >>Is the full name of MegaKat is "MegaKat City" or "MegaKat"? > >I'd venture to say the city's full name is "MegaKat City". Here are the city of MegaKat City, a city that is full of felines. MegaKat City city was built by the first pioneer kats here in . >>What are they doing there anyway? kitten usualy doesn't hang around in a >>golf course. Park yes, sandboxes yes, but golf course? > >Probably brought there by thier parents, much like human parents tend to >take thier kids where ever they go. Heh. Their parents probaly have to drag them to the golf course. Hmmm, I guess that their parents are public figures, since that most people usualy don't go to golf course to watch their mayor plays golf. >Max ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Third planet of the Sol system." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 5 16:30:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA20994 for kats-ll; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:06:58 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA20987 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:06:53 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA58186 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:00:39 -0500 Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 15:58:37 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.02808640.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Origin of Friendship Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>I'd like to think that they were friends as >>kids as the bond they share is far too strong to be forged just >>during their academy days. >They couldn't have been friends as kids.. >In "Bright & Shiny Future", Chance is telling Jake about Pops and the >newspaper stand, and how he grew up in the neighborhood. Unless of course >they became friends later, after Chance had to move away with his parents or >something. > -Matt Yeah, I noticed that, too. I've always imagined they grew up together. When you really look into Jake's character, you realize he probably wouldn't have made the decision to go into the enforcers by himself. He needed a bud to back him. In a coming-of-age story I actually am writing for English class, I explain my theories on their origins. Chance (in my little world) grew up on the streets as a rough- around-the-edges city kid, but moved to the suburbs and met Jake when he was probably into early teens. I imagine that Jake was probably more of a wimp and Chance was more of a bully when they first met, and their personalities sort of blended with eachother after a while. For English Class, of course, I simply won't bother to mention they're kats. To the teacher it'll look like 2 kids named Jake and Chance. If I edit it after it's completion and post it on the rat site, I'll make a few adjustments. Example: the word "hands" in the original version would become "paws" and so on. Just for the offical word, an Animato! article (that I have not seen myself) said they met up in enforcers, but since it was not mentioned on the show itself I consider the topic up for grabs. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 5 16:35:38 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA21592 for kats-ll; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:18:19 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA21578 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:18:10 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA16628 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:14:59 -0500 Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 16:12:58 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.02809752.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Think about it.../fanfic Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >BTW DJ, how do you send the file to B-Ko? I thought that you cann't send >file attachment. B-Ko has both Prodigy and another independent server. Prodigy does permit file attachments, but only to other members of Prodigy. He gets it, downloads it into his hard drive, then sends it to rat through the other server. I might get another server too soon, Prodigy bills are skyhigh. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 5 16:50:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA21894 for kats-ll; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:27:34 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA21887 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:27:29 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA67864 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:21:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 16:19:13 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.02810273.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Season 2--re-evaluation Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>but Dr. Sinian is definitely my >>favorite character on the whole show, >I thought that Razor was your favorite character? Razor is not my favorite character. Jake is much cooler. I guess Jake and Abi are in a tie for first. >so it was nice to see her out >of that DAMN MINISKIRT to help me visualize for fanfics. "Abby Sinian and the Temple of Doom." What do you think about this particular title? :) Can you imagine her using a bullwhip? Heh. I think that Jake can. ;) you are sick, man >>BTW, I'm not too fond of Cally either. >>>fans> >Why are you building a shelter? and who is this "Cally" character? The bitchy one with the high shrieks, "Oh save me from the evil bad guy who wants to kill me!" >>No, I actually like Jake in those overalls, though they looked >>pretty bad in "Metal Urgency" for some reason. His hands got too big >>and his limbs too thick. >Oh, I understand now. You like on how Jake's appearance in "Razor's Edge". I like any episode where he wears overalls. They're pretty cool. His ears were kinda big in that episode, though. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 5 17:10:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA21413 for kats-ll; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:15:37 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA21406 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:15:34 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA14726 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:11:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 16:09:03 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.02809454.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: A stray Kat thought... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Lets talk about cancer shall we? >Well, I'm a little bit confuse here, you mention that in your story Chance >die because of a cancer. Well, I don't know much about kats biology, but I >do know one thing about cats and cancer, they don't have them! For some >reason, cats seem to be immune of cancer. Of course cats and kats are >different, but I think that they still the same creature. >> Dr. Jake >------------------------------------- >Edo Andromedo I'm in the process of reconsidering the angle Chance's death--cancer or no. Thanks for tellings me, though, so if I decide to kill 'im anyway I might not use that. The original point of killing off Chance was quite simply to get him out of the way (Chance fans don't read this!). When I get into the Abi/Jake relationship, he starts crowding the place. You realize that eventually they're going to get married, and well gosh darnit, I certainly don't think Abi can move in with them! I get Cally to take care of the "bill" so our guys can move out of the yard, which means Jake moves in with Abi, but where does Chance go? An apartment alone? HAHAHAHAHA. FUNNY. Uh uh. The easiest solution was to simply kill 'im, but I think I may have solved THAT problem in "Children of the Stone." Wait and see. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 5 17:51:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA26235 for kats-ll; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 17:20:59 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA26226 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 17:20:55 -0500 Received: from bossrkf1.bossnt.com (bossrkf1.bossnt.com [198.150.207.41]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA11075 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 17:20:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 17:20:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199603052220.RAA11075@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: peej@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Peejster Subject: Favourite character Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Since favourite characters have come up, folks, mine is T-Bone, he's cool. Who else has a favourite? Peej From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 5 18:36:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA00433 for kats-ll; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:08:31 -0500 Received: from PICA.ARMY.MIL (octavius.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.111]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA00421 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:08:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 96 18:00:44 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Favourite character Message-ID: <9603051800.aa07777@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Since favourite characters have come up, folks, mine is T-Bone, he's cool. >Who else has a favourite? I like both T-Bone and Razor, for different reasons. Callie? What can I say? :) Both Ferals are always good. But my favorite character is: Dr. Viper Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 5 20:48:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA10004 for kats-ll; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 20:37:41 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA09988 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 20:37:22 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d157.infoserve.net [199.175.157.157]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA00258 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 17:40:46 -0800 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 17:40:46 -0800 Message-Id: <199603060140.RAA00258@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Swatkats Vehicles... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net To: kats@bort.mv.net From: fhs1@shastalink.k12.ca.us (Foothill High School Library) Subject: Re: All the vehicles!? X-Mailer: >Clell wrote: >>O.K. SWAT Kat fans, can anyone name ALL the SWAT Kats vehicles? Or >>ALL the weapons for the jet - Memory laps, I can't remember name of >>jet! > >The vehicles: >"TurboKat" is the SwatKats primary vehicle. And it's also a very >interesting craft. a note about the TurboKat... I was watching 'Destructive Nature' the other day, and I found out where Callie sits in the TurboKat. I found out (to my surprise) that she sits in Razor's seat, the weapons/navigation seat... But Razor sits on her lap!!!!! The mystery has been solved... Maybe... >"Cyclotron" is the SwatKats land vehicle. Unfortunately the SwatKats keep >having a bad vehicle day with this one. Also, about the Cyclotron, there are some eps where the Cyclotron DOESN'T get TRASHED!!!!! In 'Ghost Pilot' the cyclotron doesn't get trashed. And there was another ep where it didn't get a scratch, plus, the Cyclotron actually DOCKED with the TurboKat in flight!!! Also, one more thing... I was looking through my Central Park Media anime catalog, and there was a movie with a bike or so called the Cyclotron. Any connection? >"ThunderTruck" is the SwatKats land vehicle. It basicaly just a modified >towing truck. >Some sort of Jet Ski was used during "Mutation City". >"Sand Kat" is the SwatKats desert vehicle. It look like a Cyclotron, but >can be use on a sand enviroment. >"Hover Kat" is the SwatKats hover vehicle. It's a hover craft. > >Weapons: >Cement Machine gun, shoot out cements. >Octopus Missile, form into an Octopus like shape a few seconds after it's >deployed >Match Head missile, this is intended for arsonist only.>>I think I once saw a bomb that was used to extuingish a fire in "The >>Metallikats", I think that that it was call "Hydro Bomb". >>Scrambler Missile, it will short circuit all the eletrical functions of the >>craft that has been hit by it. >>Ground Hog Missile, the name says it all. >>Mole Missile, it mimmick a mole (It dig a hole.). I think that there is two >>version of the mole version. >>Mega Volt Missile, it will electrify something. >>Shredder Missile, it will shred something to pieces. >>Slicer Missile, want to slice something? >>Banshee Missile, it destroy the target by bombarding it with sonic waves. >>Buzz Saw Missile, it will saw something. (And I mean saw as "a saw", not as >>see.) >>Cyclotron Missile, the Cyclotron is actualy a missile. >>Mega Beam, this is some sort of beam, the device that fired the beam is >>inside the TurboKat nose. >>Pincer Missile, use this if you want to pinch something. >>Plain Old missile, the old fashion way of blasting your target. >> >>And of course there is the Glovatrix, that has has a lot of mini weapons >>and gadgets in it: >>Mini cement launcher. >>Mini Scrambler missile. >>Blow Torch. >> >>Ok, that it's the best that I can think of right now. Anyone want to add >>more to this list? >> >> >> >Just a short thing here, but if there is a SWAT Kats MIDI file out there, >send it to B-Ko Daitokuji and I will get it from him. > >Bye, Bye. >> > > > _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 5 22:50:59 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA17760 for kats-ll; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:28:04 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA17754 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:28:02 -0500 Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA11734 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:27:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:27:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199603060327.WAA11734@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: Swatkats Vehicles... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 05:40 PM 3/5/96 -0800, you wrote: >Also, about the Cyclotron, there are some eps where the Cyclotron DOESN'T >get TRASHED!!!!! In 'Ghost Pilot' the cyclotron doesn't get trashed. And >there was another ep where it didn't get a scratch, plus, the Cyclotron >actually DOCKED with the TurboKat in flight!!! That happened in "Giant Bacteria". Another vehicle was the TurboMole, handy for those pesky collapsed mines. There is also a Cookie Cutter Missile, and there are extendable saw blades on top of the TurboKat, but I don't recall them calling them anything. T-Bone used them to cut the power lines in "Giant Bacteria". Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 6 11:19:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA15974 for kats-ll; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 11:04:11 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA15959 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 11:04:05 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.177] (dyn1177a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.177]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA26930 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:05:13 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:02:12 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Favourite character Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Since favourite characters have come up, folks, mine is T-Bone, he's cool. >Who else has a favourite? Well, if you read "Which character do you choose if you are stuck at the roof?" thread before, I think that you might get some indication on everybody's favorites character. > Peej ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Perimeter secure!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 6 19:06:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA19878 for kats-ll; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:37:13 -0500 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com (emout08.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.23]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA19867 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:37:10 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA27914 for kats@bort.mv.net; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:37:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:37:27 -0500 Message-ID: <960306183725_343178212@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: What's Up With Dogs? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net More stuff from Cartoon Network concerning SK: << Hiya! Well, as you probably know by now, SWAT Kats is now being shown only on Saturdays at 2:00 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. We're still trying to find out about why episodes of SWAT Kats shown here on Cartoon Network differ than when they were shown on TBS. Write us again next week, would you? Hopefully we'll have the information then. Thanks for your patience! Thanks for writing and stay tooned! Cartoon Network>> Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa 'Anne Phibian' Anne "Jump Forrest, Jump!!!" Kris on FurToonia From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 6 19:28:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA19877 for kats-ll; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:37:12 -0500 Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA19866 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:37:09 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA28013 for kats@bort.mv.net; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:36:25 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:36:25 -0500 Message-ID: <960306183624_343178138@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Swatkats Vehicles... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>The vehicles: >>"TurboKat" is the SwatKats primary vehicle. And it's also a very >>interesting craft. >a note about the TurboKat... I was watching 'Destructive Nature' the other >day, and I found out where Callie sits in the TurboKat. I found out (to my >surprise) that she sits in Razor's seat, the weapons/navigation seat... But >Razor sits on her lap!!!!! The mystery has been solved... Maybe... I think there's another ep (I forget which one, "Giant Bacteria" maybe?) where Callie also sits in the Turbokat. _Next_ to Razor. She also has an oxygen mask on in that scene... (other stuff on missles deleted) Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa 'Ann Phibian' Anne "Kat's Alive! It's Almost The Sixteenth! Lord, Help Us!!!" Kris on FurToonia From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 7 02:13:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA01165 for kats-ll; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 01:53:22 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA01153 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 01:53:16 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.186] (dyn1186a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.186]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04153 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 13:54:28 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 13:51:26 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Season 2--re-evaluation Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net DJ wrote: >>so it was nice to see her out >>of that DAMN MINISKIRT to help me visualize for fanfics. > >>"Abby Sinian and the Temple of Doom." What do you think about this >>particular title? :) Can you imagine her using a bullwhip? Heh. I=20 >>think that Jake can. ;) > >you are sick, man Well, I'm currently having a cough right now, how do you know that? Well, I think that Sinian should be just like Indy, with some minor= adjustment of course. For one thing, she cann't wear Indy's clothes (I got= a lot of reason on why she cann't wear Indy's clothes.). The others is that= she cann't bring a gun just like Indy did (Not because that I think she= cann't use it, but I don't think that Abby is the type of person that will= use gun. Felina use a gun because she is an Enforcer, and the Enforcer use= a gun to help them enforce the law, although that the Enforcer always= revert to violence as a last resort to enforce the law.), I think that she= should use a pen or something like that. The whip is probaly the weapon= that is perfect for her if she was an adventurer just like Indy. >>>BTW, I'm not too fond of Cally either. >>>>>Cally fans> > >>Why are you building a shelter? and who is this "Cally" character? > >The bitchy one with the high shrieks, "Oh save me from the evil bad >guy who wants to kill me!" Well, from all the SWAT Kats episodes I watch, I never heard that particular= line before. Do you know in what episode this line was said? But then again, I did hear that particular line before, but it's not in= english, and the line is a little bit different. But it certainly not in= one of SWAT Kats episodes that I ever watch before. >supplies, she may be in there for days> Well DJ, may I suggest more than a couple of days? and I think that you also= need a hydroponic farm, a fusion reactor, plus a fully operational life= support system in your shelter. And the shelter should be below the sea,= it's the safest place to be if a nuclear war is happening. But then again,= what will happen if Mutilor decided to re-edit "When Strikes Mutilor"? >>Oh, I understand now. You like on how Jake's appearance in "Razor's=20 >>Edge". > >I like any episode where he wears overalls. They're pretty cool. His >ears were kinda big in that episode, though. What is an "overalls"? are this is some sort of clothes? > Dr. Jake ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Perimeter secure!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 7 04:18:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id DAA08281 for kats-ll; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 03:55:08 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id DAA08276 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 03:55:03 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.144] (dyn1144a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.144]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA10056 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 15:56:17 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 15:53:15 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: SWAT Kats MIDI Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >To: kats@bort.mv.net >From: fhs1@shastalink.k12.ca.us (Foothill High School Library) >Subject: Re: All the vehicles!? >X-Mailer: > >Just a short thing here, but if there is a SWAT Kats MIDI file out there, >send it to B-Ko Daitokuji and I will get it from him. I think that A.J. is currently working on a SWAT Kats MIDI file. >Bye, Bye. ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Perimeter secure!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 7 04:34:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id DAA08324 for kats-ll; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 03:55:38 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id DAA08319 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 03:55:34 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.144] (dyn1144a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.144]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA10076 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 15:56:44 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 15:53:45 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Swatkats Vehicles... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>The vehicles: >>>"TurboKat" is the SwatKats primary vehicle. And it's also a very >>>interesting craft. >>a note about the TurboKat... I was watching 'Destructive Nature' the other >>day, and I found out where Callie sits in the TurboKat. I found out (to my >>surprise) that she sits in Razor's seat, the weapons/navigation seat... But >>Razor sits on her lap!!!!! The mystery has been solved... Maybe... > >I think there's another ep (I forget which one, "Giant Bacteria" maybe?) >where Callie also sits in the Turbokat. _Next_ to Razor. She also has an >oxygen mask on in that scene... Ok, does this mean that Razor also sit on Felina's lap at the end of "When Strikes Mutilor"? >Lt FFeral@aol.com >Melissa 'Ann Phibian' Anne "Kat's Alive! It's Almost The Sixteenth! Lord, >Help Us!!!" >Kris on FurToonia ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Perimeter secure!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 7 18:02:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA05841 for kats-ll; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:25:29 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA05833 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:25:05 -0500 Received: from net-2-074.austin.eden.com (net-2-074.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.74]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA27000 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 16:24:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 16:24:24 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603072224.QAA27000@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Season 2--re-evaluation X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>>BTW, I'm not too fond of Cally either. >>>>>>>Cally fans> >> >>>Why are you building a shelter? and who is this "Cally" character? >> >>The bitchy one with the high shrieks, "Oh save me from the evil bad >>guy who wants to kill me!" > >Well, from all the SWAT Kats episodes I watch, I never heard that particular line before. Do you know in what episode this line was said? > >But then again, I did hear that particular line before, but it's not in english, and the line is a little bit different. But it certainly not in one of SWAT Kats episodes that I ever watch before. Edo, she's talking about Cal(l?)ico Briggs, Deputy Mayor. (Y'know, the blond one who contacts them. And, oh yeah, DJ, she's not a bitch! That's a female dog! ;) And anyway, she's okay. (Another good person to pick on in fanfics. . .) >>>supplies, she may be in there for days> RUN! RUN! RUN! =) Very good idea. But not days, try months. Maybe even years. Hi, guys, I've been kinda busy, I'm considering going into "lurker" status for a while. I got too much to do in school, and I'm writing something for the abar. (Don't ask if you don't know.) I'll miss you guys, but I'll write (if I ever have time, that is) and maybe one day I'll come back. Bye, for the last time! (Maybe, hopefully not.) Terra Chang: writer and poet, crazy violinst =) "You've gone over the edge!" "Yeah--ain't it cool?" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 7 19:10:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA10690 for kats-ll; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:31:40 -0500 Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA10681 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:31:37 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA23076 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:31:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 18:28:48 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.03007209.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Season 2--re-evaluation/apologies Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Well, I think that Sinian should be just like Indy, with some minor= > adjustment of course. For one thing, she cann't wear Indy's clothes (I got= > a lot of reason on why she cann't wear Indy's clothes.). The others is that= > she cann't bring a gun just like Indy did (Not because that I think she= > cann't use it, but I don't think that Abby is the type of person that will= > use gun. Felina use a gun because she is an Enforcer, and the Enforcer use= > a gun to help them enforce the law, although that the Enforcer always= > revert to violence as a last resort to enforce the law.), I think that she= > should use a pen or something like that. The whip is probaly the weapon= > that is perfect for her if she was an adventurer just like Indy. Hmmmm . . . lemme think about this one for a few days . . . I dunno . . . >>>>BTW, I'm not too fond of Cally either. >>>>>>>Cally fans> >> >>>Why are you building a shelter? and who is this "Cally" character? >> >>The bitchy one with the high shrieks, "Oh save me from the evil bad >>guy who wants to kill me!" >Well, from all the SWAT Kats episodes I watch, I never heard that particular= >line before. Do you know in what episode this line was said? That was not a quote, but it seemed to be the jist of what she was saying. >Well DJ, may I suggest more than a couple of days? OK OK, I TAKE IT BACK! I TAKE IT BACK! I'M SORRY I EVER SAID IT! There? Is everybody satisfied? I'm terribly sorry, but it's women's history month and I've been in a 'raging feminist' mood for about a week now. She's not a bitch. She's just kind of annoying sometimes. I REALLY don't dig that damsel-in-distress thing, AT ALL. I'll admit she's quite advanced and politically correct, but once in a while the kat guys will have to pull some rediciluss (sp?) stunt to save her. I'M SORRY, OK? >>I like any episode where he wears overalls. They're pretty cool. His >>ears were kinda big in that episode, though. >What is an "overalls"? are this is some sort of clothes? >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 8 23:49:45 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA15166 for kats-ll; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 23:29:11 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA15146 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 23:28:23 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d142.infoserve.net [199.175.157.142]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA01268 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 20:33:27 -0800 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 20:33:27 -0800 Message-Id: <199603090433.UAA01268@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Mighty Morphin Cahuenga Blvd... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I'm about 40 messages behind in katmail because I've been tied up elsewhere for awhile. Some of us may have heard rumours to the effect that Hanna-Barbera is poised to disappear and be replaced by "Cartoon Network Animation". Well....sorta. One of the Turnerites said that "Cartoon Network Animation" will actually be a new division set up by Tedco in charge of new production (right Marc?), where the "Hanna-Barbera" div. will deal solely with the "Classic" properties. I think "SwatKats" might fall between the cracks here, but my first impression is that it would be considered "Classic" by virtue of the fact it's no longer in production. I said earlier that I was going to color photocopy some unreleased Kats stuff I got from H-B and send it to someone for scanning. I can't do that. My local print shop said that a further copy of this stuff wouldn't scan in very well, so I plan on sending someone my *originals* for scanning so that we can all download reasonable pics. I also haven't managed to get time for typing in this full Kats script I have called "Blackout", but now we have yet another script on the way (guess I better get typing) which is actually an early draft of the unfinished episode "Curse of Kataluna". "Blackout" was an unused script that became the genesis for Glenn Leopold's first season closer "Katastrophe", where this "Kataluna" script concerns a certain kat-vamp's affects on Commander Feral. I've had the time to read a bit of "Blackout" while typing it for someone, and I think everyone will get a kick out of it. Leaving these things in script format also gives you a good indication of how the storyboard artist takes his cues and helps transform it into a completed episode. It's kinda cool; you can actually picture the ep playing in your head as you read it....just as you can see the Turner execs playing *with* your head 'cuz you can't turn on the *TV* and see it. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 9 10:19:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA29432 for kats-ll; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 10:02:42 -0500 Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA29427 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 10:02:38 -0500 Received: from tole-cs-6.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-6.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.106]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id JAA11558 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 09:55:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 09:55:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199603091455.JAA11558@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Cats don't get Cancer ?!?!? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I thought that this didn't sound right, so I asked the experts- the rec.pets.cats newsgroup. Here's a selection of the responses so far... ************************************************************** Of course they get cancer!!! My Abigail died of liver cancer in 1993, and I've seen many, many people talk on this group about cats with various kinds of cancer since I started reading it in 1987. Ask whoever told you this what school of veterinary medicine he or she attended ... :-) ------------ Unfortunately, cats do indeed get cancer. I have several friends who have lost cats to cancer recently. It is probably under-reported in pets (compared to humans), because a lot of pet owners would not go to the expense of diagnosing the cancer. Hope this was a hypothetical question. --------------- Tuck, possibly the nicest cat our family ever owned, died of lung cancer. And he never smoked. ----------- Well, considering that just one week ago I lost a cat to cancer (confirmed by an atopsy done by the Vet), I would say that the person was incorrect. Not only did this cat die of cancer, but her mother had also died of cancer, so it the tendency toward cancer tun in the genes in cats as well as humans. I also spoke to a friend who has had numerous cats over the years and she says that she has lost more cats to cancer than any other cause. *************************************************************** I'll probably be getting more mail on this subject for a while, but I won't bother to pass it along unless there's something more technical. I would bet that few folks pay for an autopsy on their dead pet, so you don't hear about it so much. After thinking about it, I should have known the answer to this. I have a FeLV positive cat, (Fricassee), and after reading up on the virus, I knew that in the final stages a cat will get all sorts of wierd cancers. Like HIV in humans, there can be a long stage where one tests positive, but appears otherwise healthy. On a different subject, there's been a "SF for Cat Lovers" thread on rec.pets.cats for a while. I mentioned the upcoming SK superchunk, so maybe a few more folks may watch it. --------------------- Paul Kemner | "Many people appear to imagine that they cannot Toledo, Ohio | afford to have artistic surroundings, whereas pkemner@bright.net | the wonder is that they can afford so much --------------------- expensive ugliness." M. H. Baillie Scott From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 9 15:03:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA16426 for kats-ll; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:46:27 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA16416 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:46:22 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.203] (dyn1203a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.203]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA14927 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 02:47:30 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 02:44:34 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Lady Enforcer. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Well, we have seen Felina, where are the rest of the Enforcer population? Do you want know what I think? I think that maybe the original Policewoman does exist in the SWAT Kats universe, and she is probaly the one that help them become the SWAT Kats. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 9 15:17:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA16468 for kats-ll; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:46:48 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA16461 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:46:44 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.203] (dyn1203a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.203]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA14949 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 02:47:58 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 02:44:57 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Cats don't get Cancer ?!?!? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Oh well DJ, I guess that I was wrong. Bye Chance, nice knowing you, it's been a great adventure. -Edo, who are sitting in the corner, feeling stupid. ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Perimeter secure!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 9 15:21:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA16437 for kats-ll; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:46:32 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA16427 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:46:28 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.203] (dyn1203a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.203]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA14934 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 02:47:41 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 02:44:41 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Origin of Friendship Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net August wrote: >>>I'd like to think that they were friends as >>>kids as the bond they share is far too strong to be forged just >>>during their academy days. DJ wrote: >Yeah, I noticed that, too. I've always imagined they grew up together. >When you really look into Jake's character, you realize he probably >wouldn't have made the decision to go into the enforcers by himself. He probaly was send to the Enforcer academy by his parents. It could that= one of Jake's family members was once an Enforcer, or his parents want him= to be a kat. >He needed a bud to back him. In a coming-of-age story I actually am >writing for English class, I explain my theories on their origins. >Chance (in my little world) grew up on the streets as a rough- >around-the-edges city kid, but moved to the suburbs and met Jake >when he was probably into early teens. Hmmm, is the suburbs of MegaKat was shown in "Unlikely Alloys"? >I imagine that Jake was probably more of a wimp Well Jake is not a wimp or anything like that. He just a little bit more= sensitive than Chance, and to interact with other people that is different= than you sometimes can be a challenge. >and Chance was more of a bully when they first met, Well no argument here. Chance probaly started to like Jake when Jake do= something that really impressed him. Of course he isn't showing any sign= that he is impressed by Jake's action when Jake do that, but he considering= to make friends with this new kid that he just met. >and their >personalities sort of blended with each other after a while. Hmmm, "mind-melt"? >For English Class, of course, I simply won't bother to mention=20 >they're kats. To the teacher it'll look like 2 kids named Jake >and Chance. Hmmm, I wonder if the teacher watches "SWAT Kats". >If I edit it after it's completion and post it on the >rat site, I'll make a few adjustments. >Example:=20 >the word "hands" in the original version would become "paws" >and so on. Here is something that I like to hear: "Jake! stop scratching your claw on the blackboard." > Dr. Jake ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Perimeter secure!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 9 16:49:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA22052 for kats-ll; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 16:34:02 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA22037 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 16:33:44 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d157.infoserve.net [199.175.157.157]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA03011 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:39:40 -0800 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:39:40 -0800 Message-Id: <199603092139.NAA03011@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: I actually typed the whole thing! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I just sent it to /incoming, so it won't be available until Paul gets to it, but I typed in the whole "Blowout!" script (some 40 pages) for the amusement of katfans everywhere. For those of us who don't speak script-ese, I'll have a quick-reference glossary-type thing completed shortly that'll help define some of the terms used in Kats-scripts. When I get confirmation that the thing's actually on the site, I'll post to rec.arts.animation, alt.tv.swatkats and alt.fan.furry that it's available. Oh yeah, BTW. Because of the positive results obtained by using Mook for the animation of Swatkats, Hanna-Barbera has been convinced to use them as primary contractor for the new-new "Jonny Quest". They've also reversed a clueless decision to "update" the voice-cast for JQ, and have reverted back to the "traditional" cast. Let's hope some other clueless recent decisions will likewise be reviewed. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 9 19:37:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA02382 for kats-ll; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 19:24:42 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA02370 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 19:24:39 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA62010 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 19:20:48 -0500 Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 19:18:37 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.03167683.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Origin of Friendship Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >DJ wrote: >>Yeah, I noticed that, too. I've always imagined they grew up together. >>When you really look into Jake's character, you realize he probably >>wouldn't have made the decision to go into the enforcers by himself. >He probaly was send to the Enforcer academy by his parents. It could that= > one of Jake's family members was once an Enforcer, or his parents want him= > to be a kat. I have always believed (though this totally goes against the show and I know it) tht Hackle should have been Jake's father and that's the way it is in ALL my fanfics. I think I mentioned that before on this list. Does Hackle seem to be a very violent guy? Uh uh. >Hmmm, is the suburbs of MegaKat was shown in "Unlikely Alloys"? Dunno. I hated the animation in this episode so I've only forced myself to watch it a few times, and I never looked close enough to notice the scenery. >>I imagine that Jake was probably more of a wimp >Well Jake is not a wimp or anything like that. He just a little bit more= > sensitive than Chance, and to interact with other people that is different= > than you sometimes can be a challenge. Yeah, I probably meant 'sensitive.' Oh well. >>and their >>personalities sort of blended with each other after a while. >Hmmm, "mind-melt"? What I mean is Jake got tougher by being around Chance, and Chance got--well, I don't want to use the term "softer". How 'bout "more polite?" >>For English Class, of course, I simply won't bother to mention=20 >>they're kats. To the teacher it'll look like 2 kids named Jake >>and Chance. >Hmmm, I wonder if the teacher watches "SWAT Kats". I hope not. Still, it doesn't sound too much like the show. >Here is something that I like to hear: >"Jake! stop scratching your claw on the blackboard." Heh heh, that'd be funny wouldn't it? Unfortunatly, I don't have any classroom scenes. The story's about Jake's reaction to his mom's death. Despite what that sounds like, there's also some cool scenes with a gun (though no one gets shot) and you see how Jake gets the idea to join the enforcers with Chance. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 9 19:49:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA02675 for kats-ll; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 19:32:30 -0500 Received: from emout05.mail.aol.com (emout05.mail.aol.com [198.81.10.37]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA02650 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 19:32:27 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout05.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA27362 for kats@bort.mv.net; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 19:31:56 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 19:31:56 -0500 Message-ID: <960309193156_241934558@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: To Feral or not to Feral, that is the question. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Well, do you get so much into it that you even have a neice that (I can't >>say for certian) might look like Felina? Something like that's happening to >>me. Her parents kinda look like Felina, so I don't have a clue. Also, my >>urge for breaking things when I get highly agitated didn't start when I >>noticed the connection between us. THIS is why I say what I say. Does anyone >>else get this close to being a clone of a SWAT Kat character? > >My sister says I sound just like Jake (I have kinda the same "scratch" in my >voice), and sometimes I find myself acting like him too. > Mega Deja Vu!!! Bedides the stuff above, I just noticed (it's pretty pitiful that in my 13 years of exhistance on this planet, I just noticed) that I have blonde hair and green eyes, and I wear glasses. I actually hissed at one of my friends the other day (They're still my friend), believe it or not, it was a hiss! This is too wierd to be normal... Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa 'Ann Phibian' Anne / Kat's Alive! The date of March 16th is fast approaching!!! BTW- I just found this really neat program on my other on-line server, and now I have SK wallpaper... If only I had a little humility, I would be perfect. -Ted Turner (BARF!!!) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 10 00:12:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA19815 for kats-ll; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 23:48:27 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA19801 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 23:48:15 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d155.infoserve.net [199.175.157.155]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA23782 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 20:54:36 -0800 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 20:54:36 -0800 Message-Id: <199603100454.UAA23782@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Swatkats Vehicles... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >At 05:40 PM 3/5/96 -0800, you wrote: > >>Also, about the Cyclotron, there are some eps where the Cyclotron DOESN'T >>get TRASHED!!!!! In 'Ghost Pilot' the cyclotron doesn't get trashed. And >>there was another ep where it didn't get a scratch, plus, the Cyclotron >>actually DOCKED with the TurboKat in flight!!! > >That happened in "Giant Bacteria". "Razor's Edge" too, as I recall. >Another vehicle was the TurboMole, handy for those pesky collapsed mines. TurboMole also shows up in that script I banged in called "Blowout!", if briefly. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 10 00:27:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA19937 for kats-ll; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 23:54:16 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA19932 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 23:54:13 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d155.infoserve.net [199.175.157.155]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA23791 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 20:54:46 -0800 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 20:54:46 -0800 Message-Id: <199603100454.UAA23791@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats MIDI Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>To: kats@bort.mv.net >>From: fhs1@shastalink.k12.ca.us (Foothill High School Library) >>Subject: Re: All the vehicles!? >>X-Mailer: >> >>Just a short thing here, but if there is a SWAT Kats MIDI file out there, >>send it to B-Ko Daitokuji and I will get it from him. > >I think that A.J. is currently working on a SWAT Kats MIDI file. Yes, well A.J.'s mailbox was full to overflowing with unread mail, and the list server refuses to send him any more until he catches up with the backlog or starts indiscrminately deleting in the name of sanity. We all get behind occasionally, I guess. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 10 00:30:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA19831 for kats-ll; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 23:48:46 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA19822 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 23:48:33 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d155.infoserve.net [199.175.157.155]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA23801 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 20:54:56 -0800 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 20:54:56 -0800 Message-Id: <199603100454.UAA23801@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: RE: Name the Villain. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >From: "Roberts, Steve" >To: "'Kats List'" , owner-kats >Subject: RE: Name the Villain. >Date: Mon, 04 Mar 96 14:51:00 EST >Encoding: 12 TEXT > > > > >>Ok people, lets do name the villain thing, lets build a list on villains >>that the SwatKats have fought. > >How about T-bone, and Razor's ulterior conterparts in the time warp thing >that aired the second season? Anybody got a name for that episode? > >Steve Yup. "Dark Side of the SwatKats", though they did have "other selves" in "Bright and Shiny Future" as well (albeit presumably deceased!) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 10 00:42:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA19820 for kats-ll; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 23:48:32 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA19800 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 23:48:15 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d155.infoserve.net [199.175.157.155]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA23785 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 20:54:39 -0800 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 20:54:39 -0800 Message-Id: <199603100454.UAA23785@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: What's Up With Dogs? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >More stuff from Cartoon Network concerning SK: > ><< Hiya! > > Well, as you probably know by now, SWAT Kats is now being shown only on >Saturdays at 2:00 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. > We're still trying to find out about why episodes of SWAT Kats shown here >on Cartoon Network differ than when they were shown on TBS. Huh....wha...? How do the ones shown on TCN (which I'm legally prevented from getting) differ from the versions shown on TBS? The only thing I can think of at the moment is that the "Secret Files of the Swat Kats" interstitials were replaced with those abominable "We Are Cartoons" things. Also, they evidently don't know about the "Kats Eye News Special Report" compilation ep that contains the SKIQ thing. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 10 00:45:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA19844 for kats-ll; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 23:48:54 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA19830 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 23:48:45 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d155.infoserve.net [199.175.157.155]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA23773 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 20:54:31 -0800 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 20:54:31 -0800 Message-Id: <199603100454.UAA23773@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Origin of Friendship Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I have always believed (though this totally goes against the show and >I know >it) tht Hackle should have been Jake's father and that's the way it >is in ALL >my fanfics. I think I mentioned that before on this list. Does Hackle >seem to >be a very violent guy? Uh uh. Funny, but add about 60 years to Jake and a few brain cells missing-in-action, and you wind up with Hackle, no? Hackle's quite the inventor - so's Jake; Hackle had a past filled with weapons of every description used against foes - just as you could describe Jake's life in the present tense. Odd, huh? >Hmmm, is the suburbs of MegaKat was shown in "Unlikely Alloys"? >Dunno. I hated the animation in this episode so I've only forced >myself to watch it a few times, and I never looked close enough to notice the >scenery. Grr. Diff'rent strokes, I guess. I don't know whether I would've picked those "blocky" character models for the entire 65 ep run, but I really liked that ep. >Yeah, I probably meant 'sensitive.' Oh well. >What I mean is Jake got tougher by being around Chance, and >Chance got--well, I don't want to use the term "softer". How 'bout >"more polite?" The way I read it, Jake wouldn't likely have considered an Enforcer career without the persuasion of friends, family members etc. I imagine Jake in school would be somewhat reluctant to resort to violence in self-defence - even if picked on - whereas Chance would possess the self-confident air that would render him immune to being "picked on" at all. Their partnership is very complementary in nature, with the character traits of the one counterbalancing the equivalent lack of them in the other. Jake would learn some aspects of the way Chance deals with situations and modify some of his behaviour accordingly - perhaps realizing that some situations *must* necessitate other than a negotiated peace. Chance on the other hand would learn to temper his behaviour somewhat and maybe explore other avenues before throwing the milk-can through the TV in disgust, or blowing something to smithereens that merely needed a good spanking. Their friendship works like a good marriage: even though they're constantly learning from and adapting to one another, they'll never wind up being the same person. If someone wanted an example of the fundamental differences in the two Kats personality, I'd be tempted to use the appearance of a door-to-door salesman by way of illustration. Though neither Kat upon answering the door would much feel like a long, involved conversation about Vacuum cleaners, Jake would likely listen to the entire presentation in order to be "polite", and would likely be stuck at the door all day, failing to recognize that the salesperson's plaintive "help me out" type schtick was little more than victimization aimed at unwary souls in the name of commerce. Chance on the other hand would likely listen to the pitch for a few brief seconds, see through the psychological warfare BS of the professional scam artist, and dismiss the individual with a slam of the door or similar almost to the point of being offensively rude. Civilization is somewhere between the two extremes. >>"Jake! stop scratching your claw on the blackboard." > >Heh heh, that'd be funny wouldn't it? Unfortunatly, I don't have >any classroom scenes. Heh. That *would* be funny! _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 10 00:46:03 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA19850 for kats-ll; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 23:49:00 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA19810 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 23:48:25 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d155.infoserve.net [199.175.157.155]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA23795 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 20:54:49 -0800 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 20:54:49 -0800 Message-Id: <199603100454.UAA23795@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Green (Kat) thumbs... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >At 08:42 PM 3/4/96 +0700, you wrote: > >>Strange, most city use their name as initials for the police departement >>initials, like the New York Police Departement was called "N. Y. P. D" and >>the Los Angeles Police Departement was called "L. A. P. D.". Is the full >>name of MegaKat is "MegaKat City" or "MegaKat"? > >I'd venture to say the city's full name is "MegaKat City". It's spelled out >that way on public buildings, and I don't recall anyone on the show dropping >the "city" part when saying it's name. The only place you tend to see >MegaKat used alone is as part of private business names, not public ones. Yup. You see the letters "M.C.P.D." on the crowd-control barricades erected by the Enforcers in at least *one* episode, and probably more if you look. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 10 07:47:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id HAA19054 for kats-ll; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 07:41:20 -0500 Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA19049 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 07:41:17 -0500 Received: from tole-cs-1.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-1.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.101]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id HAA28261 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 07:34:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 07:34:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199603101234.HAA28261@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: M.C.P.D. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net M.C.P.D. ??? What about M.A.S.A. ? (The space agency, not the ground corn you make tortillas out of !) --------------------- Paul Kemner | "Many people appear to imagine that they cannot Toledo, Ohio | afford to have artistic surroundings, whereas pkemner@bright.net | the wonder is that they can afford so much --------------------- expensive ugliness." M. H. Baillie Scott From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 10 11:46:05 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA02022 for kats-ll; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 11:36:08 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA02016 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 11:36:04 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d157.infoserve.net [199.175.157.157]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA12685 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 08:42:51 -0800 Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 08:42:51 -0800 Message-Id: <199603101642.IAA12685@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: "Blowout!" script Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Okay, Rat just added the "Blowout!" script to the site. It's called, oddly, "blowout.txt" Happy reading. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 10 14:48:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA13043 for kats-ll; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 14:37:07 -0500 Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA13036 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 14:37:04 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA08334 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 14:36:48 -0500 Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 14:34:35 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.03213150.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Origin of Friendship Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>I have always believed (though this totally goes against the show and >>I know >>it) tht Hackle should have been Jake's father and that's the way it >>is in ALL >>my fanfics. I think I mentioned that before on this list. Does Hackle >>seem to >>be a very violent guy? Uh uh. >Funny, but add about 60 years to Jake and a few brain cells missing- in-action, >and you wind up with Hackle, no? Hackle's quite the inventor - so's Jake; Hackle >had a past filled with weapons of every description used against foes - just as >you could describe Jake's life in the present tense. Odd, huh? When I first say an episode with Hackle, it happened to be one with no Razor/Hackle or Jake/Hackle dialogue, so I assumed they were actually father/son. It wasn't until I say "The Metallikats's" ending scene in the salvage yard when I realized that was indeed not the case. Still, I like the idea anyway. Picture Jake with a gray beard. I really works. I drew him that way and it was quite an image. >>Hmmm, is the suburbs of MegaKat was shown in "Unlikely Alloys"? >>Dunno. I hated the animation in this episode so I've only forced >>myself to watch it a few times, and I never looked close enough to notice the >>scenery. >Grr. Diff'rent strokes, I guess. I don't know whether I would've picked those >"blocky" character models for the entire 65 ep run, but I really liked that ep. That' OK. It had an OK plot with some great character developments. I didn't care for the animation (and neither did Davis Doi). Everyone's entitled to their own opinion. >>What I mean is Jake got tougher by being around Chance, and >>Chance got--well, I don't want to use the term "softer". How 'bout >>"more polite?" >The way I read it, Jake wouldn't likely have considered an Enforcer career >without the persuasion of friends, family members etc. I imagine Jake in school >would be somewhat reluctant to resort to violence in self-defence - even if >picked on - whereas Chance would possess the self-confident air that would >render him immune to being "picked on" at all. Their partnership is very >complementary in nature, with the character traits of the one counterbalancing >the equivalent lack of them in the other. Jake would learn some aspects of >the way Chance deals with situations and modify some of his behaviour >accordingly - perhaps realizing that some situations *must* necessitate other >than a negotiated peace. Chance on the other hand would learn to temper >his behaviour somewhat and maybe explore other avenues before throwing the >milk-can through the TV in disgust, or blowing something to smithereens that >merely needed a good spanking. Their friendship works like a good marriage: even >though they're constantly learning from and adapting to one another, they'll never >wind up being the same person. Yup. That's exactly how I saw it. >chance Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 10 19:48:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA00777 for kats-ll; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 19:40:33 -0500 Received: from emout05.mail.aol.com (emout05.mail.aol.com [198.81.10.37]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA00772 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 19:40:30 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout05.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA20735 for kats@bort.mv.net; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 19:39:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 19:39:59 -0500 Message-ID: <960310193958_242596237@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: What's Up With Dogs? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>More stuff from Cartoon Network concerning SK: >> >><< Hiya! >> >> Well, as you probably know by now, SWAT Kats is now being shown only on >>Saturdays at 2:00 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. >> We're still trying to find out about why episodes of SWAT Kats shown here >>on Cartoon Network differ than when they were shown on TBS. > >Huh....wha...? How do the ones shown on TCN (which I'm legally prevented >from >getting) differ from the versions shown on TBS? The only thing I can think >of >at the moment is that the "Secret Files of the Swat Kats" interstitials were >replaced >with those abominable "We Are Cartoons" things. Also, they evidently don't >know >about the "Kats Eye News Special Report" compilation ep that contains the >SKIQ >thing. They also had this "Today on SWAT Kats" thing at the beginning, giving people a preview of the show. Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa 'Ann Phibian' Anne Kat's Alive! The date of March 16th is fast approaching!!! Kris on FurToonia From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 10 20:19:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA03415 for kats-ll; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 20:01:06 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA03409 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 20:01:02 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d144.infoserve.net [199.175.157.144]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA04612 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 17:07:55 -0800 Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 17:07:55 -0800 Message-Id: <199603110107.RAA04612@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: What's Up With Dogs? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >They also had this "Today on SWAT Kats" thing at the beginning, giving people >a preview of the show. I fired off a letter to TCN telling them the following to explain the "differences": The "Secret Files of the SwatKats" materials were all ordered sent to Turner Home Video for duplication and insertion into the VHS tapes (and undoubtedly the "Today on SwatKats" bumpers were sent right along with them). Cartoon Network was sent the syndication package for air, but stripped of all the stuff that would be added to each ep before it ran on TBS. I also passed along the HB production number for the missing "Kats Eye News Special Report/SKIQ" episode, along with a contact name at Hanna-Barbera to help them find it. Hopefully, the thing will hit air on TCN soon so everyone can add it to their library! (Especially those folks able to tape it with the CD quality possible with TCN on DSS). _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 10 21:49:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA08068 for kats-ll; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 21:37:57 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA08061 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 21:37:52 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.61] (dyn1061a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.61]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00167 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 09:39:05 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 09:36:06 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: The original TurboKat. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Is the original TurboKat suppose to have two engine instead of three? and how do the third engine got into the final version of the TurboKat? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 11 06:40:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id GAA16618 for kats-ll; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 06:22:54 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id GAA16613 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 06:22:50 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.217] (dyn1217a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.217]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA24376 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 18:24:02 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 18:21:03 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Hackle and Jake. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Here's an idea, what if Hackle is really an older Jake from the future? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 11 11:45:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA06727 for kats-ll; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 11:07:37 -0500 Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA06722 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 11:07:34 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA14024 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 11:07:29 -0500 Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 11:03:38 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.03277558.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Hackle and Jake. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Here's an idea, what if Hackle is really an older Jake from the future? >------------------------------------- >Edo Andromedo Ya know, that's a really interesting idea. I think it would screw up a lot of my stories, though. BTW, just as an update, B-Ko has all of my fanfic "Children of the Stone" but he is currently having problems with his computer (still). When he's posted it, I will also send him the short story I wrote involving Jake and Chance as kids. I am currently working on the sequel to "Children of the Stone." Yeah, when you get me writing I don't stop. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 11 14:20:05 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA19052 for kats-ll; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 13:41:16 -0500 Received: from PICA.ARMY.MIL (octavius.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.111]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA19047 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 13:41:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 13:40:25 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Kats Animation Art Message-ID: <9603111340.aa11656@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I was at ArtExpo in NYC on SAturday; it's sort of the art equivalent of Toy Fair. Hanna Barbera Animation Art was there. They were rather hard to miss, actually, with the big HB banner overhead, a Scooby Do statue, and a Scooby costumed walkaround. Anyhow, they had tons of the old JQ cels for sale. I asked the rep about (what else? :) SK cels, and received some good news and some bad news: The good news is that SWAT Kats cels should be released within the next few months. The bad news is that the SRPs will be the same as the JQ cels: $550-750 unframed :( Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 11 14:37:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA21727 for kats-ll; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 13:56:24 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA21714 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 13:56:10 -0500 Received: from net-1-054.austin.eden.com (net-1-054.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.54]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id MAA08959 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 12:56:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 12:56:02 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603111856.MAA08959@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Hackle and Jake. X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Here's an idea, what if Hackle is really an older Jake from the future? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Noway! the fur color's wrong. (Sorry for that little outburst, sugar starts getting to me if I get too much into my system.) The Blowout! script thingey was cool. It would've made a great episode. What do you guys think? I liked it. Hackle and Jake, Hackle and Jake, Hackle and Jake . . . Um, no, I'm sorry, I don't really see it. But that's just me. =) *Hugs* to you all! Terra Chang: Overdoser on sugar Fan of: Swat Kats Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles vacations and life. Thank you. =) P.S. is anyone else on the anne rice list? I **know** it's off subject, but I'm curious to know if I might see any of my kats friends there. Don't forget to say hi! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 11 14:53:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA22112 for kats-ll; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 14:03:02 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA22105 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 14:02:58 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d142.infoserve.net [199.175.157.142]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA18519 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 11:10:23 -0800 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 11:10:23 -0800 Message-Id: <199603111910.LAA18519@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: The original TurboKat. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Is the original TurboKat suppose to have two engine instead of three? and how do the third engine got into the final version of the TurboKat? Well, though it's rather erratic in the various episodes, that 'third engine' was normally used only as a thruster (as I recall) until Razor's various engine modifications later on. I have a pic of the original version of the Turbokat (with "S.K." written on each wing), and it looks a lot more "cartoonish" than what eventually wound up on screen. The details of the rear-engine area aren't visible from this particular angle, so I'm not sure about original intentions. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 11 20:47:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA20177 for kats-ll; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:18:24 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA20172 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:18:20 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA13701; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:23:45 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:23:45 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: SK MOVs? How about AVIs? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net SK AVI movies at http://www.maxie.com (If anyone didn't know). I somehow got unsubscribed off this list when my server lost its internet connection, so please correct me if I say anything that's already been said. Nitpicker's guide to 2nd season coming soon! (As soon as I start on it :)) A.J. Freda You want SWAT Kats sound clips, I'll make em! ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us Soon coming to rat.org: 16bit,44.1Khz, stereo "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kat WAV files!!!! Ranging from 4-10Mb! SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 11 21:10:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA20031 for kats-ll; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:14:19 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA20025 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:14:14 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA13399; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:19:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:19:05 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Ted Turner Dartboards are here! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I found a pic of Ted in Encarta '95 and I used Paintbrush to make circles with point marks! Only one problem: NO COLOR PRINTER, though I have a friend that is going to print it. FUN, FUN, FUN! as soon as I find out how much it costs to get a color copy, You'll be able to order them! (Only to cover the copy and shipping and handling, of course!) A.J. Freda A comparision: Speed Racer: 5 frames/sec ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us SWAT Kats: 20-24 frames/sec "Tails" on IRC PUT SWAT KATS BACK ON WEEKDAYS! SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 11 21:48:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA24188 for kats-ll; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 21:23:52 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA24175 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 21:23:45 -0500 Received: from net-6-179.austin.eden.com (net-6-179.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.179]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id UAA15412 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:23:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:23:40 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603120223.UAA15412@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Ted Turner Dartboards are here! X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I found a pic of Ted in Encarta '95 and I used Paintbrush to make circles >with point marks! Only one problem: NO COLOR PRINTER, though I have a >friend that is going to print it. > > FUN, FUN, FUN! as soon as I find out how much it costs to get a >color copy, You'll be able to order them! (Only to cover the copy and >shipping and handling, of course!) Don't have to! I have a color printer (I made a SK portfolio sorta thingey with it and I have Encarta '95. Where did you find his picture? This is gonna be gooooooooooood!!! ;) ;) Terra Chang: Now calming down, if only slightly, And who is very ecstatic (sp?) because there are new stories both in the a.b.a.r. and the SK place (the script) And who is also very giddy for no reason and is rambling starting from somewhere up there /\ / \ || || =) Okay, I'm leaving now, bye! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 12 08:35:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA11957 for kats-ll; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 08:13:58 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA11949 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 08:13:51 -0500 Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.4/merit-2.0) with SMTP id IAA17364 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 08:13:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa02898; 12 Mar 96 8:17 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <3145A2A8@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Tue, 12 Mar 96 08:13:28 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: Kats list Subject: Re: What's Up With Dogs? Date: Tue, 12 Mar 96 08:13:00 PST Message-ID: <3145A2A8@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 12 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Huh....wha...? How do the ones shown on TCN differ from the >versions shown on TBS? Along with the opening "Today on SK..", and the Secret Files, there were also bumpers before & after commercial breaks. A still frame of some action scene with "Take a break" or something, and a voice over saying "Nice flying guys! Now, take a break!". A similar intro bumper was inserted after the commercials (except it was "Back to the action!") -Matt From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 12 08:54:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA12990 for kats-ll; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 08:44:03 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA12985 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 08:44:01 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA62216 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 08:42:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 08:40:14 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.03360953.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Fanfic Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Where can I get the fanfic? From the authors or the Swat Kats site? > Peej http://rat.org/pub/kats/stories or ftp://rat.org/pub/kats/stories From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 12 10:09:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA20152 for kats-ll; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 09:57:54 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA20143 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 09:57:37 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d141.infoserve.net [199.175.157.141]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA14878 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 07:05:39 -0800 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 07:05:39 -0800 Message-Id: <199603121505.HAA14878@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: What's Up With Dogs? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > > >>Huh....wha...? How do the ones shown on TCN differ from the >>versions shown on TBS? > >Along with the opening "Today on SK..", and the Secret Files, there were >also bumpers before & after commercial breaks. A still frame of some action >scene with "Take a break" or something, and a voice over saying "Nice flying >guys! Now, take a break!". A similar intro bumper was inserted after the >commercials (except it was "Back to the action!") Ah, okay. There's a rule for broadcast programming in kiddie-land (Sat-AM) that states the broadcaster has to insert 'bumpers' like this at the act-breaks so that kids clearly realize where the teleplay ends and the commercials begin. There was great fear when the kid-TV industry was deregulated (i.e., dropping the "no half hour commercials masquerading as cartoons" rule) that shows would simply become "buy-buy-buy" subliminal seduction for the kiddies, and the bumper thing was introduced to help limit it. I think there's still a ruling that prohibits marketing of the toys catering to the show in commercials *during* the show (that is, you shouldn't see "Super Silly Silver Surfer" action figures promoted during the Super Silly Silver Surfer Show), but for some reason TCN gets away with murder. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 12 10:21:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA20244 for kats-ll; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 10:01:19 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA20239 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 10:01:15 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d141.infoserve.net [199.175.157.141]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA14975 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 07:09:14 -0800 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 07:09:14 -0800 Message-Id: <199603121509.HAA14975@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: FTP or WWW for fanfic access? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Where can I get the fanfic? From the authors or the Swat Kats site? > >> Peej > >http://rat.org/pub/kats/stories > or >ftp://rat.org/pub/kats/stories Um, go with the web-browser access gang...my last few attempts at FTP were about as successful as Custer. I think Rat said ftp access was limited to a comparitively small number of users, whereas the wwwway doesn't much care. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 12 10:33:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA18833 for kats-ll; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 09:49:00 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA18821 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 09:48:55 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d141.infoserve.net [199.175.157.141]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA14421 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 06:56:57 -0800 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 06:56:57 -0800 Message-Id: <199603121456.GAA14421@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Kats Animation Art Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >I was at ArtExpo in NYC on SAturday; it's sort of the art equivalent of Toy >Fair. Hanna Barbera Animation Art was there. They were rather hard to miss, >actually, with the big HB banner overhead, a Scooby Do statue, and a Scooby >costumed walkaround. Scooby-"do" , as opposed to "-doo"? Is that something like dog-do? >Anyhow, they had tons of the old JQ cels for sale. I asked the rep about >(what else? :) SK cels, and received some good news and some bad news: > >The good news is that SWAT Kats cels should be released within the next >few months. The bad news is that the SRPs will be the same as the JQ >cels: $550-750 unframed :( Now that I've picked myself up off the floor, *750 bucks!*? I mean, I just want a memento of an episode...not the dubious distinction of personally financing a "World Premiere Toon". That's outrageous. By comparison, at "Cartoon Corner" up here, production cels from Sat AM stuff sell for between 250.00-400.00, with much of the "Animaniacs"-type stuff coming in at 350.00-550.00....but not *750.00*, even for notoriously overpriced Disney stuff (though a production cel of DW Duck w/accompanying pencil-drawing went for something like 850.00). By comparison, TMNT cels sold for between 20.00 to 250.00 I guess A.J.'s got quite the little investment going now with his cel, huh? _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 12 10:37:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA18816 for kats-ll; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 09:48:51 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA18800 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 09:48:46 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d141.infoserve.net [199.175.157.141]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA14400 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 06:56:44 -0800 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 06:56:44 -0800 Message-Id: <199603121456.GAA14400@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Ted Turner Dartboards are here! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > FUN, FUN, FUN! as soon as I find out how much it costs to get a >color copy, You'll be able to order them! (Only to cover the copy and >shipping and handling, of course!) Scan it in maybe so we can all make copies! 'Course, rat.org might overload with the demand...all those Hanna-Barbera employees might get there first. >A.J. Freda A comparision: Speed Racer: 5 frames/sec >ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us SWAT Kats: 20-24 frames/sec Ut-oh, nitpick time. The frame rate (number of frames for each second of footage) is generally 24 frames/sec for film animation, and 30 frames/second for Television. One would thing that there's 30 different drawings on cels for every second of footage, but they generally double up on every fifth frame for TV cartoons as a byproduct of having to convert from the Film medium (at 24fps) to the Videotape rate of 30. Modern VCR's usually have a "still frame" or "jog shuttle" that lets you pause and count each frame to a maximum of 30 before the counter racks up another second, but only try it if you're _really_ bored. But A.J.'s right, sometimes the frame-rate dips horribly low as a means of saving money (less drawings being required means more can be done by fewer artists), and sometimes the cheaper efforts have 'action' sequences as low as 12fps. I think I'm saying that though Kats could drop to twenty distinct drawings within a thirty-frame sequence, I highly doubt "Speed" could drive the Mach 5 at anything below 12 (or some junk). _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 12 10:40:25 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA18843 for kats-ll; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 09:49:05 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA18818 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 09:48:53 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d141.infoserve.net [199.175.157.141]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA14406 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 06:56:47 -0800 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 06:56:47 -0800 Message-Id: <199603121456.GAA14406@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: H-B Animation scripts - glossary Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I forgot to do this, so here it is: (reference "Blowout!") O.S. = "Out of Shot". That portion of the scene occurring just outside the view of the 'camera', or otherwise obscured from being seen. VO = "Voice Over". The character's line of spoken dialogue or other sound effect is heard, but the camera isn't on the character or device responsible. For instance, the camera focusses in on Prof. Hackle driving out of the junkyard in his truck, and we hear the two Metallikats squabbling in the back, though we don't see them: MAC (VO) Maybe you could make her without a mouth? MOLLY(VO) .....and *him* taller! POV = "Point of View". The camera 'sees' the scene from the point of view of one of the characters present in it. For instance, if Callie, Razor and T-Bone were having a discussion and the Kat guys wound up blushing, the writer may have us 'look' at Razor/T-Bone from the 'POV' of Callie. OTS = "Over The Shoulder" Similar to POV in execution, but the character or prop named immediately following the 'OTS' is also visible in the shot. For instance, if the line went "ANGLE ON DARK KAT OTS RAZOR", we'd be looking at Dark Kat perhaps threatening Razor, from the back of Razor's head; literally, 'over his shoulder'. PAN WITH = The 'camera' follows the characters as they approach other characters or props. For instance, "PAN WITH Creeplings as they approach REACTOR CORE". WIDE TO ESTABLISH = Means that the 'camera' is looking at the scene far enough back that we can see the building, scene or other manner of 'set' that the action will take place in during subsequent frames. For instance, Razor and T-Bone land the Turbokat and we see them approaching a chain link fence, the scene fades out, then the camera goes "WIDE TO ESTABLISH" on the now familiar Pumadyne laboratory. You generally see this each time there's a major location change, like leaving the boys at the garage for a scene of Feral at Enforcer Hindquarters. After CUT TO: ENFORCER HQ, we'd have EXT. ENFORCER HQ - DAY and WIDE TO ESTABLISH. Basically, it's letting the audience know that the subsequent scenes of Feral take place during the daytime at Enforcer Headquarters, and not in the previous locale of Jake and Chance Garage. CUT TO, DISSOLVE TO, and FADE TO: = Are different ways of changing from one scene to the next. BG = "Back Ground". This is the painting that forms the background for various scenes. Each cel or combination of cels is placed overtop of a background painting and photographed. This is done 24 times for each second of film-footage, and many times that before the background is changed to something else. During the multi-character free-for-all at the end of "Katastrophe", the action takes place in the Tuna factory. There were very few backgrounds needed for that whole scene, though many different character cels were required to depict the fight happening against them. ANIMATE BG = "Animate Background" This *generally* means that there's action taking place in a mechanical contrivance of some description - like a train or the Turbokat - and these vehicles have to appear as though they're moving. We focus in on T-Bone flying the Turbokat cursing the throttle because he's flying far too fast, and the BG is actually what's moving - not the TK. This is sometimes used in conjunction with foreground motion to make something look as though it's hurtling by at light speed. ANGLE ON: A 'camera' direction. There's a big vault with Creeplings hammering away at the locking mechanism, and your attention is directed to the Vault door by "ANGLE ON VAULT DOOR". CLOSE ON: 'Camera' zooms in on a character or prop. We have an exterior shot of the Turbokat closing on a target, and we want to get a closer shot of the cockpit. The camera direction might be "CLOSE ON COCKPIT", or might go one step further to pay more attention to Razor than T-Bone by saying "CLOSE ON COCKPIT FAVOURING RAZOR". ECU, CU, XXCU: All variations of "Close Up" - 'Extreme Close Up", "Close Up" and "Xtra Xtra Close Up" respectively. Usually pertaining to a character when you want the focus on a particular facial expression that'd be basically invisible when the character is drawn full-frame (i.e., you can see his feet and head in the same shot!). XXCU might go as far as having only the character's eyes or mouth fill the 'screen'. WORM'S EYE VIEW: This is literally what it implies; that the camera is on the ground at roughly the level of a worm looking up at the scene. For instance, Dark Kat pulls a gun on Razor, and T-Bone throws a rock at Dark Kat's hand, knocking the gun to the ground immediately in front of Razor. Razor steps on the gun with his foot before DK can retrieve it. We want the camera to get Razor's foot on the gun, and Dark Kat's reaction all within the same frame, so the 'Camera Direction' might go something like this: WORM'S EYE VIEW: ANGLE ON DARK KAT OTS RAZOR Razor's foot stomps on the gun as Dark Kat attempts to retrieve it. Dark Kat rubs his sore wrist (note: There are *wide* variations in style depending on who is writing what and for whom. Some Disney scripts I've got are a bit more, well, "formal" than Lance's stuff, but are downright hard to read as a result. ) ENQUIRING KATS WANT TO KNOW: Q: "What's the difference between backgrounds and props?" A: Just like the stage, gang. A "prop", even a drawn one, is something that the characters interact with. "Background" is simply the eye-candy in, literally, the background. Jake and Chance sitting on the sofa watching Skaredy Kat in the garage breaks down like this: Garage, walls, pictures, famous 'ever-July' Calendar: all "Background" TV remote, Nachos, couch, anchovies: all "props". Skaredy Kat: believe it or not, he's considered a character despite the fact the TV is a prop! (Chance throws the milk can through the picture tube, you see, and thus interacts with it...keeping Katsui in the picture-tube business in the process) Anything that has to react to a character's touch is either another character or a prop. It's easy to tell the difference in everything but "The Twisted Tales of Felix the Cat" (where you even have to feed the backgrounds). Q: "Why is some stuff capitalized and other stuff not?" A: Tougher. Generally, all the directions to the 'camera' and character names are capitalized. Also, depending on the writer, actions requiring special effects and props that'll need new designs may also be capitalized for a variety of reasons. That's why you get things like: "The FEAR SHIP latches on to the Turbokat and YANKS it UP AND O.S." FEAR SHIP is something the artists are going to have to design for the show, and a sound effect and movement pattern will have to be developed for "YANK". These "special" drawings and breakdowns become part of what they called "show packs"; individual for each episode. That's why the drawings in the "Toon" article of the Glovatrix remind the storyboard artists that the armament found within the Glovatrix varies from show-to-show, and to check the "individual show-packs" for details. (Cut this out and save it somewhere for when we get the first draft of what would've been "Curse of Kataluna") Oh yeah, one more note. In the script, Lance references things like "From Show 4" and so on. If you have the "Animato!" article handy, the numerical order of the eps there is what Lance is referring to. There's also a couple of name changes that you'll pick up on, chiefly "Occulus" instead of "Morbulus"; "Fear Ship" instead of "Doomsday Express", and I-forget-which in place of "Turbo-Mole". When Lance wrote the first draft of this, the stuff that'd been previously written hadn't gotten beyond storyboards, and there were still changes to be made before the eps got animated overseas. For instance, the name "Occulus" from "The Giant Bacteria" was changed just before the completed episode aired (and Viper's dialogue all had to be re-done using "Morbulus" instead) because a copyright conflict was uncovered concerning the "Occulus" name and some defunct Marvel Comics character. Other names are changed for a variety of reasons, sometimes because Broadcast Standards and Practices ("BS&P" or "The Censors" for all you "Eek!", "Reboot" and "Animaniacs" fans) feels the name will be too frightening for kids, or might be interpreted as something naughty, or simply because someone with hungrier Lawyers used it first (as with "Occulus"). Often they're changed because someone in the crew like the Tremblays etc comes up with a better-sounding name while reading the script (as with "Turbo-Mole" vs. whatever was used in "Blowout!"). "Blowout!" was slated to end the first season, but was handed to Glenn Leopold for story editing and completely changed around to become "Katastrophe". Lance felt Leopold's script was better than his (in fact, he even went as far to describe himself as "burned-out" while penning it), so he didn't object to the changes whatsoever. (anyone still want to write screenplays for a career after that lot?) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 12 13:46:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA05181 for kats-ll; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:19:29 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA05171 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:19:17 -0500 Received: from net-2-065.austin.eden.com (net-2-065.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.65]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id MAA21976 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 12:18:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 12:18:37 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603121818.MAA21976@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: story stuff (good enough subject as any . . .) X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hi fellow kat fans! It's me again! I had this (good? bad? totally insane?) idea about the stories last night, but it was too late (11:45) to do anything then. I don't know what you guys will think, but oh, well, like I said, it's only an idea. What I thought was that maybe either the Rat or Chance could make another file sorta thingey in the story site for summaries. Now, before you start chewing me out, lemme 'splain. When an author writes something and sends it to the Rat, they could also write a short (one paragraph or so) summary of the story, that sort of thing. And also (I got this idea from the Black Rose's spec archieve) we could make different divisions, y'know, like one place for humor stories, one for action, one for ongoing series, that sorta thing. See, the Black Rose puts the stories in these different catagories like "Finished" and "In Progress" and "Silly" and so on. I know there's no humor stories yet, but who knows? Maybe one of these days I'll write one. =) Like I said before, this is only an idea. Anyone like it? Do tell. Do tell. =) Hey, if it worked for the a.b.a.r., why can't it work for us? I mean, the a.b.a.r. is just like our story site; an archieve of fan works. So, what do you guys think? Terra Chang: M.T.S.C. (More Than Slightly Cracked) happy, happy, joy, joy, Wondering "what the heck will the others think of my idea?" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 12 13:51:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA05600 for kats-ll; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:31:56 -0500 Received: from PICA.ARMY.MIL (octavius.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.111]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA05591 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:31:53 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 96 13:31:00 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Ted Turner Dartboards are here! Message-ID: <9603121331.aa12727@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Ut-oh, nitpick time. The frame rate (number of frames for each second of >footage) is generally 24 frames/sec for film animation, and 30 frames/second >for Television. One would thing that there's 30 different drawings on cels >for every second of footage, but they generally double up on every fifth >frame for TV cartoons as a byproduct of having to convert from the Film >medium (at 24fps) to the Videotape rate of 30. Modern VCR's usually >have a "still frame" or "jog shuttle" that lets you pause and count each frame to >a maximum of 30 before the counter racks up another second, but only try it >if you're _really_ bored. But A.J.'s right, sometimes the frame-rate dips >horribly low as a means of saving money (less drawings being required >means more can be done by fewer artists), and sometimes the cheaper >efforts have 'action' sequences as low as 12fps. I think I'm saying that though Most feature film animation is done on ones and on twos. That is, it's only a full 24 fps for scenes with lots of action, while it's 12 fps, with each cel used twice, for slower scenes. A lot of TV animation is done on twos as a maximum, with frame rates dropping as low as 4 fps. When 24 fps animation is transferred to 30 fps video, some of the twos become threes. The only way to get true frame-by-frame of the original film via video is from a CAV LD. >Kats could drop to twenty distinct drawings within a thirty-frame sequence, >I highly doubt "Speed" could drive the Mach 5 at anything below 12 (or some >junk). A lot of Speed Racer is "partial animation", where cels of the character's moving mouth are placed on an underlay of the character. I checked out the show on MTV, and was horrified at how bad it looks to me now. OTOH, I love my Marine Boy bootlegs, and that's no better, but I like the characters and premise more. Ah, youth... :) Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 12 14:10:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA05606 for kats-ll; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:31:59 -0500 Received: from PICA.ARMY.MIL (octavius.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.111]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA05599 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:31:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 96 13:24:47 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Kats Animation Art Message-ID: <9603121324.aa12711@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>I was at ArtExpo in NYC on SAturday; it's sort of the art equivalent of Toy >>Fair. Hanna Barbera Animation Art was there. They were rather hard to miss, >>actually, with the big HB banner overhead, a Scooby Do statue, and a Scooby >>costumed walkaround. > >Scooby-"do" , as opposed to "-doo"? Is that something like dog-do? Pardon me for misspelling the name of a character in a show I never watch. Sheesh! No good deed ever goes unpunished.... >>Anyhow, they had tons of the old JQ cels for sale. I asked the rep about >>(what else? :) SK cels, and received some good news and some bad news: >> >>The good news is that SWAT Kats cels should be released within the next >>few months. The bad news is that the SRPs will be the same as the JQ >>cels: $550-750 unframed :( > >Now that I've picked myself up off the floor, *750 bucks!*? I mean, I just >want a memento of an episode...not the dubious distinction of personally >financing a "World Premiere Toon". That's outrageous. By comparison, >at "Cartoon Corner" up here, production cels from Sat AM stuff sell for >between 250.00-400.00, with much of the "Animaniacs"-type stuff >coming in at 350.00-550.00....but not *750.00*, even for notoriously >overpriced Disney stuff (though a production cel of DW Duck w/accompanying >pencil-drawing went for something like 850.00). By comparison, TMNT >cels sold for between 20.00 to 250.00 Indeed the prices for the SK cels are horribly high, but IMHO so are the JQ cels. Both are priced above Disney TV cels, and the Disney shows have greater buyer appeal as they tie in to the feature films (TLM, Aladdin, TLK/T&P). Perhaps if the JQ cels don't move the prices for those and the SK cels will drop. If the H-B "authorized dealer" program is like Disney's the dealers pay half of retail, and I don't know many galleries that would pay $250+ for this stuff when they can get more easily sold Disney material for less. The TMNT cels are not a valid basis for comparison, as a huge number of them were dumped via TRU for $20, which pissed off the people who paid $200 and up from galleries. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 12 15:15:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA12997 for kats-ll; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 14:50:42 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA12984 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 14:50:38 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.202] (dyn1202a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.202]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA11294 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 02:51:52 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 02:48:53 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Hackle and Jake. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Here's an idea, what if Hackle is really an older Jake from the >>future? > >>------------------------------------- >>Edo Andromedo > >Ya know, that's a really interesting idea. I think it would screw up >a lot of my stories, though. Not to mention everyone else's stories. BTW, is everyone else have finished their story? > Dr. Jake ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 12 15:38:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA13002 for kats-ll; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 14:50:44 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA12993 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 14:50:40 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.202] (dyn1202a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.202]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA11298 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 02:51:54 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 02:48:55 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Hackle and Jake. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Here's an idea, what if Hackle is really an older Jake from the future? > >AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >Noway! the fur color's wrong. Well, Hackle (If he is Jake.) can change it to look different, so that his past self won't find out the secret. Oh yeah, speaking of furs, has the color blue, pink, and white ever show up in the series? >Hackle and Jake, Hackle and Jake, Hackle and Jake . . . >Um, no, I'm sorry, I don't really see it. But that's just me. =) Well, it's just an idea. >*Hugs* to you all! Gee Terra, thanks! =) >Terra Chang: ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 12 15:44:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA12994 for kats-ll; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 14:50:41 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA12909 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 14:50:33 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.202] (dyn1202a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.202]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA11279 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 02:51:39 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 02:48:42 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Season 2--re-evaluation Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>>Why are you building a shelter? and who is this "Cally" character? >>> >>>The bitchy one with the high shrieks, "Oh save me from the evil bad >>>guy who wants to kill me!" >> >>Well, from all the SWAT Kats episodes I watch, I never heard that >particular line before. Do you know in what episode this line was said? > >Edo, she's talking about Cal(l?)ico Briggs, This below is for razor: You see razor, this "Callico/Calico" thing is really confusing. I suggest that this thing should be explain, or at least mention in the FAQ. Right razor? >Deputy Mayor. (Y'know, the blond one who contacts them. Oh, you mean that the kat that I mention in my first post to this list? >And, oh yeah, DJ, she's not a bitch! That's a female >dog! ;) And anyway, she's okay. (Another good person to pick on in fanfics. . .) "She's okay". Hmmm, that's probaly what Chance said to himself when he saw Jake for the first time. Of course Chance said "He's okay" instead of "She's okay". >Hi, guys, I've been kinda busy, I'm considering going into "lurker" status >for a while. Hmmm, "lurker", "DownBelow"? >I got too much to do in school, and I'm writing something for >the abar. (Don't ask if you don't know.) I'll miss you guys, but I'll write >(if I ever have time, that is) and maybe one day I'll come back. Bye, for >the last time! (Maybe, hopefully not.) Hope to seeing you back again. >Terra Chang: >writer and poet, >crazy violinst =) ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 12 15:53:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA12995 for kats-ll; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 14:50:42 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA12943 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 14:50:35 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.202] (dyn1202a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.202]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA11288 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 02:51:47 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 02:48:48 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Origin of Friendship Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Dj wrote: >I have always believed (though this totally goes against the show and=20 >I know it) tht Hackle should have been Jake's father and that's the way it= =20 >is in ALL my fanfics. I think I mentioned that before on this list. Yes, but if Hackle is his father, where are the rest of his family? I always= presume that Jake comes from a big family, he's sorta the farmboy type. >Does Hackle seem to be a very violent guy? Uh uh.=20 Well, he could be a very deranged kat when he just a young kat. >>Hmmm, is the suburbs of MegaKat was shown in "Unlikely Alloys"? > >Dunno. I hated the animation in this episode so I've only forced=20 >myself to watch it a few times, and I never looked close enough to notice >the scenery. Well, the animation is good, but somehow the scene when T-Bone is making= "full throttle" to the engine when Zed grab the TurboKat is kinda slow. The= reason that I like about that episode is Zed, I think that Zed should go to= the junkyard instead of Pumadyne. >>>and their >>>personalities sort of blended with each other after a while. > >>Hmmm, "mind-melt"? > >What I mean is Jake got tougher by being around Chance, and >Chance got--well, I don't want to use the term "softer". How 'bout=20 >"more polite?" How about "more responsible"? I mean that he became sorta like a brother to = Jake. >>>To the teacher it'll look like 2 kids named Jake >>>and Chance. > >>Hmmm, I wonder if the teacher watches "SWAT Kats". > >I hope not. Still, it doesn't sound too much like the show. Does these kids last name still "Clawson" and "Furlong"? >The story's about Jake's reaction to his mom's death. Hmmm, mothers death. Don't know why, but it seem that mothers always= influence their kid lifes, even after they die. >Despite what that sounds like, there's also some >cool scenes with a gun (though no one gets shot) and you see how >Jake gets the idea to join the enforcers with Chance. Speaking of reason, have you guys ever think on what reason does Felina join= the Enforcer? Well, I think that the Commander is the reason on why she= join the Enforcer. > Dr. Jake ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 12 16:50:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA18839 for kats-ll; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:22:32 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com ([192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA18831 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:22:30 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA62090 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:17:10 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 16:14:52 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.03387573.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Origin of Friendship Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>I have always believed (though this totally goes against the show and=20 >>I know it) tht Hackle should have been Jake's father and that's the way it= >=20 >>is in ALL my fanfics. I think I mentioned that before on this list. >Yes, but if Hackle is his father, where are the rest of his family? I always= > presume that Jake comes from a big family, he's sorta the farmboy type. Farmboy? Farm? Hmmmm . . .never scene it that way. He IS a scientist of sorts--well, he builds all kinds of techno gear--I don't see him on a farm. >>What I mean is Jake got tougher by being around Chance, and >>Chance got--well, I don't want to use the term "softer". How 'bout=20 >>"more polite?" >How about "more responsible"? I mean that he became sorta like a brother to = >Jake. Oh yeah. I meant that. > >>I hope not. Still, it doesn't sound too much like the show. >Does these kids last name still "Clawson" and "Furlong"? Yup. Why change it? Furlong and Clawson are real names. Eddie Furlong is an actor and Clawson is the name of a pickle company. >>The story's about Jake's reaction to his mom's death. >Hmmm, mothers death. Don't know why, but it seem that mothers always= > influence their kid lifes, even after they die. I thought that, too. >>Despite what that sounds like, there's also some >>cool scenes with a gun (though no one gets shot) and you see how >>Jake gets the idea to join the enforcers with Chance. >Speaking of reason, have you guys ever think on what reason does Felina join= > the Enforcer? Well, I think that the Commander is the reason on why she= > join the Enforcer. That gets explained in the sequel to "Children on the Stone", which is coming along quite nicely. >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 12 17:25:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA22673 for kats-ll; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 17:09:40 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA22666 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 17:09:33 -0500 Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.4/merit-2.0) with SMTP id RAA05674 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 17:08:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa04239; 12 Mar 96 17:11 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <31461FE3@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Tue, 12 Mar 96 17:07:47 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: Kats list Subject: Re: Ted Turner Dartboards are here! Date: Tue, 12 Mar 96 17:07:00 PST Message-ID: <31461FE3@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 26 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Ut-oh, nitpick time. The frame rate (number of frames for each second of >footage) is generally 24 frames/sec for film animation, and 30 frames/second >for Television. One would thing that there's 30 different drawings on cels ... >Most feature film animation is done on ones and on twos. That is, >it's only a full 24 fps for scenes with lots of action, while it's 12 ... >When 24 fps animation is transferred to 30 fps video, some of the >twos become threes. The only way to get true frame-by-frame of the >original film via video is from a CAV LD. ... I don't want to get too far away from the subject, but... :) Some new transfer methods use an electronic shutter on the video "camera". Since each "frame" of film is 1/24th of a second, and video is 1/30th of a sec., you simply find the common denominator (120). The film & video will sync at 1/120th of a second shutter speed. Run the film and video normally with that shutter speed, boost the light from the projector, and you'll see no flicker. (Trust me, I've done this..) LD players are really cool! However, Kats haven't been released on LD unfortunately. Whose arm do I have to twist? -Matt From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 12 19:25:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA01173 for kats-ll; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 19:05:01 -0500 Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com (mail06.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.108]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA01168 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 19:04:58 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA08626 for kats@bort.mv.net; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 19:04:27 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 19:04:27 -0500 Message-ID: <960312190426_244455224@mail06.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Origin of Friendship Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Dj wrote: >>I have always believed (though this totally goes against the show and >>I know it) tht Hackle should have been Jake's father and that's the way it >>is in ALL my fanfics. I think I mentioned that before on this list. > >Yes, but if Hackle is his father, where are the rest of his family? I always >presume that Jake comes from a big family, he's sorta the farmboy type. > I wouldn't presume that he was the "farmboy" type. He probably wasn't born in Megakat City, but having Jake dressed up like that kat in "The Giant Bacteria" just doesn't work for me.*I* would presume that Jake would be the kind of kid that's really shy, hangs out with other kids that are really shy, would be the one recruited for "It's Academic", play in the band, and stuff like that, but definately NOT the "farmboy" type (of course, that's the opinion of a person looking at personalities from the _same_ angle, so feel free to disagree!). Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa 'Ann Phibian' KAT'S ALIVE! THE DATE OF MARCH 16TH IS FAST APPROACHING!!! (Excuse me while I faint!) Kris on FurToonia / Kriss on Furry From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 12 21:37:48 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA10059 for kats-ll; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 21:18:39 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA10054 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 21:18:34 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA24550; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 21:24:01 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 21:24:00 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Ted Turner Dartboards are here! In-Reply-To: <199603120223.UAA15412@natashya.eden.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net You can find Ted's face in Encarta by going to Find and then type in Ted Turner A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 13 08:17:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA28393 for kats-ll; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 08:04:18 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA28388 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 08:04:14 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.112] (dyn1112a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.112]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA28263 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 20:05:25 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 20:02:28 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Origin of Friendship Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net DJ wrote: >>Yes, but if Hackle is his father, where are the rest of his family? >>I always presume that Jake comes from a big family, he's sorta the >>farmboy type. > >Farmboy? Farm? Hmmmm . . .never scene it that way. He IS a scientist >of sorts--well, he builds all kinds of techno gear--I don't see him >on a farm. Well, a farmboy that knows lots of tricks. >>>I hope not. Still, it doesn't sound too much like the show. > >>Does these kids last name still "Clawson" and "Furlong"? > >Yup. Why change it? Furlong and Clawson are real names. Eddie >Furlong is an actor and Clawson is the name of a pickle company. Just curious. :) I'm still wondering if the teacher do watch SK or not. >>Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 13 10:17:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA07774 for kats-ll; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 10:05:43 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA07763 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 10:05:38 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.206] (dyn1206a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.206]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA04588 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 22:06:52 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 22:03:54 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: The original TurboKat. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Is the original TurboKat suppose to have two engine instead of three? and how do the third engine got into the final version of the TurboKat? > >Well, though it's rather erratic in the various episodes, that 'third engine' was normally >used only as a thruster (as I recall) until Razor's various engine modifications later >on. What kind of engine modifications? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 13 21:00:52 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA26748 for kats-ll; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 20:52:32 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA26741 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 20:52:23 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d158.infoserve.net [199.175.157.158]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA01471 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 18:01:16 -0800 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 18:01:16 -0800 Message-Id: <199603140201.SAA01471@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: The original TurboKat. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>Is the original TurboKat suppose to have two engine instead of three? and how do the third engine got into the final version of the TurboKat? >> >>Well, though it's rather erratic in the various episodes, that 'third engine' was normally >>used only as a thruster (as I recall) until Razor's various engine modifications later >>on. > >What kind of engine modifications? Well, aside from "Speed of Heat", there's an ep (and I can't recall the title without spending some time looking) where Razor's just finished doing some mod or other, and they're in the air heading off to some emergency. T-Bone says something along the lines of "We'll be right there!", to which Razor replies, "We'll get *there* a lot faster with *all* our engines!", then the third nozzle of the TK ingites. Oh yeah, my "Scooby-Doo/Do" thing wasn't a spelling flame, I think I was comparing the animation in "Scooby-Doo" to "Dog-do". The stories were still fun, we just expected a lot less in the late sixties/early seventies. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 14 13:49:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA13406 for kats-ll; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 13:40:53 -0500 Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA13400 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 13:40:50 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA16460 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 13:39:46 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 13:37:28 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.03549393.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Dr. Abi Sinian Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I thought I'd try and get a conversation started on her to see what you guys think about her character. She's my favorite (next to Jake), so I've been doing some watching off all the episodes I have that feature her. She's never been mentioned in ANY fanfiction up, so I've been wondering if I'm the only one who finds her to be an appealing character. "Children onf the Stone" has a good amount (probably more than any episode can boast), and it's seqeul is basically an Abi/Jake/Thoran story (you don't know who he is yet. He gets introduced in the first one). Abi's awesome! Most of you know that I'm not such a big Cally fan (my apologies to those who are). Abi's better for me because she stands up for herself (sort of) and does something HELPFUL in almost every scene she's in. I'm really upset that "Curse of Katuna" or whatever script was never made, because I heard she was in it. Dr. Jake PS. If anyone with a good scanner could put up some Abi and Hackle pics on the rat site (or their own) that would be great! Thanks! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 14 14:35:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA16343 for kats-ll; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 14:03:09 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA16336 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 14:03:06 -0500 Received: from net-1-056.austin.eden.com (net-1-056.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.56]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id NAA00800 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 13:02:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 13:02:54 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603141902.NAA00800@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I thought I'd try and get a conversation started on her to see what >you guys think about her character. She's my favorite (next to Jake), I like her. And Jake . . . don't we all love 'im? >so I've been doing some watching off all the episodes I have that >feature her. > She's never been mentioned in ANY fanfiction up, so I've been >wondering if I'm the only one who finds her to be an appealing >character. She's in my *REALLY* huge story I've got in my computer called "Watchers at Midnight" I am trying to see if I can send it, but if I can't >"Children onf the Stone" has a good amount (probably more than any >episode can boast), and it's seqeul is basically an Abi/Jake/Thoran >story (you don't know who he is yet. He gets introduced in the first >one). > Abi's awesome! Most of you know that I'm not such a big Cally >fan >(my apologies to those who are). Abi's better for me because she >stands >up for herself (sort of) and does something HELPFUL in almost every >scene she's in. I'm really upset that "Curse of Katuna" or whatever >script >was never made, because I heard she was in it. Well, I was dissapointed 'cause the story sounded cool. I am really into vampires and that sorta thing. (But then, you guys know that already, I think.) Whoa. Think about it. Feral actually having this "thing" for a woman! Very scary thought. I don't mean to dis his character, but frankly, I don't like him very much; and the idea of a bunch of little duplicates of him running around Megakat City gives me nightmares. (Oh, yeah, and it was "Curse of Kataluna." Luna! Don't ask. ;) > Dr. Jake P.S. I don't remember how long ago this was, or if anyone else remembers, but one time A.J. made this suggestion about us um, how do I say this . . . take the "role" of a character. (Like in the Sonic group on AOL. They have a "Sonic" and a "Sally" etc. I replied and said I would rather do my own character, and I think will. I'll add her name to my signature sooner or later. If you don't like the name, don't say anything, okay? =) I mean, we've got a "Razor" and "Chance" why not others, like he said? But I still think I will take my own personal character. Anyone understand what I just said? If there are, good. Explain it to me. Terra Chang: currently a little too hyper to make any sense writer and poet crazy violin player (really I am!) "You've gone over the edge!" "Yeah--ain't it cool?" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 14 17:27:48 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA29784 for kats-ll; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 16:50:49 -0500 Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA29778 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 16:50:46 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA29596 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 16:46:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 16:44:12 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.03560188.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>I thought I'd try and get a conversation started on her to see what >>you guys think about her character. She's my favorite (next to Jake), >I like her. And Jake . . . don't we all love 'im? Yeah. I supposed that's why I hooked 'em up together in the second "Children of the Stone" (which really needs a title). >> She's never been mentioned in ANY fanfiction up, so I've been >>wondering if I'm the only one who finds her to be an appealing >>character. >She's in my *REALLY* huge story I've got in my computer called "Watchers at >Midnight" I am trying to see if I can send it, but if I can't Server problems? Send it to me! I've been having problems because Prodigy won't let me, so I'm giving my files to my uncle, who as an independent server and will put it up for me. How long is it? How my KB? (just wondering) >P.S. I don't remember how long ago this was, or if anyone else remembers, >but one time A.J. made this suggestion about us um, how do I say this . . . >take the "role" of a character. (Like in the Sonic group on AOL. They have a >"Sonic" and a "Sally" etc. I replied and said I would rather do my own >character, and I think will. I'll add her name to my signature sooner or >later. If you don't like the name, don't say anything, okay? =) I mean, >we've got a "Razor" and "Chance" why not others, like he said? But I still >think I will take my own personal character. Go ahead. In my Prodigy SK club, we all took names, but I'm the only one that changed my actual ID name. Everyone else just signs their name in the club as that character. It's pretty funny, considering I used to just sign my notes Dr. Jake, but above the note it would flash my real name. I didn't think that was too cool, so I changed it under my membership. All my other mailing lists and clubs only know me as DJ Clawson; most of them think it's my real name, and if they know it's not they don't know what it means! I was at a seaQuest convention in Feb with a bunch of my internet friends, and everyone called me "DJ" or "Dr. Jake" or even "Jake". It was awesome! >Terra Chang: Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 14 20:25:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA14430 for kats-ll; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 20:10:00 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA14407 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 20:09:56 -0500 Received: from bossrkf4.bossnt.com (bossrkf4.bossnt.com [198.150.207.44]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA15050 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 20:16:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 20:16:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199603150116.UAA15050@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: peej@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Peejster Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 04:44 PM 3/13/96 EST, you wrote: >>>I thought I'd try and get a conversation started on her to see >what >>>you guys think about her character. She's my favorite (next to >Jake), > >>I like her. And Jake . . . don't we all love 'im? > >Yeah. I supposed that's why I hooked 'em up together in the second >"Children of the Stone" (which really needs a title). > >>> She's never been mentioned in ANY fanfiction up, so I've been >>>wondering if I'm the only one who finds her to be an appealing >>>character. > >>She's in my *REALLY* huge story I've got in my computer called >"Watchers at >>Midnight" I am trying to see if I can send it, but if I can't > > >Server problems? Send it to me! I've been having problems because >Prodigy won't let me, so I'm giving my files to my uncle, who as an >independent >server and will put it up for me. >How long is it? How my KB? (just wondering) > >>P.S. I don't remember how long ago this was, or if anyone else >remembers, >>but one time A.J. made this suggestion about us um, how do I say >this . . . >>take the "role" of a character. (Like in the Sonic group on AOL. >They have a >>"Sonic" and a "Sally" etc. I replied and said I would rather do my >own >>character, and I think will. I'll add her name to my signature >sooner or >>later. If you don't like the name, don't say anything, okay? =) I >mean, >>we've got a "Razor" and "Chance" why not others, like he said? But I >still >>think I will take my own personal character. > >Go ahead. In my Prodigy SK club, we all took names, but I'm the only >one that changed my actual ID name. Everyone else just signs their >name >in the club as that character. It's pretty funny, considering I used >to just >sign my notes Dr. Jake, but above the note it would flash my real >name. I >didn't think that was too cool, so I changed it under my membership. >All >my other mailing lists and clubs only know me as DJ Clawson; most of >them >think it's my real name, and if they know it's not they don't know >what it >means! I was at a seaQuest convention in Feb with a bunch of my >internet >friends, and everyone called me "DJ" or "Dr. Jake" or even "Jake". >It >was awesome! > >>Terra Chang: > > Dr. Jake > > Who is Dr. Abi Sinian?! That's a new one to me. Peej From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 14 22:27:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA22625 for kats-ll; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:11:11 -0500 Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA22620 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:11:08 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA33628 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:06:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 22:04:20 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.03588882.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Who is Dr. Abi Sinian?! That's a new one to me. > Peej She's the museum curator. She had her biggest roles in "The Pastmaster always strikes twice" and "Deadly Pyramid." She also appeared in "Ghost Pilot" and was set to appear in "Curse of Katuna" or whatever it's called (it was never made). She helps the SWAT Kats with supernatual stuff. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 14 22:43:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA23038 for kats-ll; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:24:29 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA23033 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:24:25 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.137] (dyn1137a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.137]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA05506 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 10:25:38 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 10:22:40 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Who is Dr. Abi Sinian?! That's a new one to me. She's the curator for the MegaKat City Museum of History. She appears on: "The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice" "The Ghost Pilot" "The Deadly Pyramid" She also suppose to appear on "Curse of Kataluna". > Peej ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 00:03:29 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA27651 for kats-ll; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 23:38:22 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA27640 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 23:38:16 -0500 Received: from net-1-052.austin.eden.com (net-1-052.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.52]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id WAA14197 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:38:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:38:05 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603150438.WAA14197@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >She also suppose to appear on "Curse of Kataluna". Ah, yes, one of the infamous "unfinished episodes." The only good thing is that *one* of these days we're gonna get the script to it. But I remember reading somewhere (I think it was the Animato! article) that "The Deadly Pryamid" was really "Abi's" episode. Understand what I just said? I can 'splain. But not here, cause I'm a little tied up right now. Literally. I got this huge Mardi Gras necklace from my mother, and now I am in the process of trying to untangle myself from it. (In some respects, I am like a earth cat. =) ) >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >"A shining beacon, all alone in the night." Terra Chang: thinking about names (run for cover, everybody!) writer and poet crazy violin player (really I am!) "You've gone over the edge!" "Yeah--ain't it cool?" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 00:19:52 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA00262 for kats-ll; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 23:51:07 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA00256 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 23:51:01 -0500 Received: from net-1-052.austin.eden.com (net-1-052.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.52]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id WAA15280 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:50:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:50:52 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603150450.WAA15280@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Fan stories--send 'em! X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hillo, peoples. The irreversablly hyper Terra is here again, and not exactly, how shall I put this . . . "herself" at the moment. I am not trying to act like a big bully, but to everybody who has stories nearly or totally finished or even started: "SEND THEM TO ME!!!!" I can give an honest critique before you post it to Rat. I should know about stories, I've written quite a few myself. Maybe we should put up guidelines or something for them . . . Anyway, I remember (and I still have the post that said it!) A.J. saying he finished part one of his story, (Don't remember the title, it'll probably hit me after I send this message.) is finished and that he would start sending it. It's been a while. Where is it? Send it. Please? If we beg you very, very nicely? And anyway, you could say that me and Ryan are vetrans at this writing buisness, but the problem is, I am a very greedy little soul. I can only continue contributing to our site if someone else gets off their butts and starts typing. It's only fair, isn't it? And if you don't have any ideas, I've got plenty! Just not enough time to put them all down on screen. (I'd say 'paper,' but you can't really write with a pencil on a computer screen. ) Come on people, I am not one of those people who can just sit around and yell and cuss at Ted for cancelling THE show, I wanna read fan stories! Who knows? Don't say "I suck at this, don't tell me I don't," cause I know the feeling! Been there, done that, bought the T-shirt!! If you have any *real* problems with writing, e-me and I'll be happy to help. But I have done enough for right now! (And as I'm saying this, I've got another story waiting to be sent.) BTW, don't remember who wrote it, but "T-Bone's Stakes," in the Rat's file--about it, *EXCELLENT* story! Loved it! C'mon, summer is fast approaching. I hope to see more stories comin' in; or at least from those of us who are around my age (12. Can you believe it?) or anybody who gets summer off. Okay, we now return you to your familier Crazy writer. (All these crazy ideas swimming around in my head . . . I need to talk to Chance!) ACK!!!!!!!!!!!! Terra Chang: thinking about names (run for cover, everybody!) writer and poet crazy violin player (really I am!) "You've gone over the edge!" "Yeah--ain't it cool?" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 04:54:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id EAA22784 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 04:34:27 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id EAA22776 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 04:34:23 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.197] (dyn1197a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.197]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA06013 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 16:35:36 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 16:32:38 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>She also suppose to appear on "Curse of Kataluna". > >Ah, yes, one of the infamous "unfinished episodes." The only good thing is >that *one* of these days we're gonna get the script to it. But I remember >reading somewhere (I think it was the Animato! article) that "The Deadly >Pryamid" was really "Abi's" episode. Understand what I just said? Well, in some sort of way, that episode is a "Sinian" episode. I think that Sinian's role was wisely use in that episode. >Terra Chang: >thinking about names (run for cover, everybody!) >writer and poet >crazy violin player (really I am!) ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 04:59:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id EAA22779 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 04:34:24 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id EAA22766 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 04:34:18 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.197] (dyn1197a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.197]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA05990 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 16:35:25 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 16:32:27 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I thought I'd try and get a conversation started on her to see what >you guys think about her character. She's my favorite (next to Jake), Hmmm, Jake and Sinian. Is this the reason why you match them both? >so I've been doing some watching off all the episodes I have that >feature her. > She's never been mentioned in ANY fanfiction up, Sinian is working for the museum, and most of us rarely use the museum for the fanfic stories. >so I've been >wondering if I'm the only one who finds her to be an appealing >character. Well DJ, you aren't the only one. >"Children onf the Stone" has a good amount (probably more than any >episode can boast), and it's seqeul is basically an Abi/Jake/Thoran >story (you don't know who he is yet. He gets introduced in the first >one). I wanted to read it just as soon as it's avaiable for downloading at rat.org. > Abi's awesome! Most of you know that I'm not such a big Cally >fan (my apologies to those who are). Abi's better for me because she >stands up for herself (sort of) and does something HELPFUL in almost >every scene she's in. I'm really upset that "Curse of Katuna" or whatever >script was never made, because I heard she was in it. Well, just because she is in that episode, that doesn't mean that the role that she got will be good. I always prefer to see her helping in the way of archaelogical terms, not in the supernatural departement. > Dr. Jake ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 05:03:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id EAA22778 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 04:34:23 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id EAA22765 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 04:34:17 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.197] (dyn1197a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.197]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA05997 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 16:35:29 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 16:32:32 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian + Nicknames Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Dj wrote: >> She's never been mentioned in ANY fanfiction up, so I've been=20 >>wondering if I'm the only one who finds her to be an appealing=20 >>character. Terra wrote: >She's in my *REALLY* huge story I've got in my computer called "Watchers at= =20 >Midnight" I am trying to see if I can send it, but if I can't What is the story all about? Is it about the "watchers"? DJ wrote: >> Abi's better for me because she stands up for herself (sort of) >>and does something HELPFUL in almost every scene she's in. I'm >>really upset that "Curse of Katuna" or whatever script was never >>made, because I heard she was in it. Terra wrote: >Well, I was dissapointed 'cause the story sounded cool. I am really into=20 >vampires and that sorta thing. Well, I'm not into vampires and that sorta thing, but I do think a lot of= the posibilities of a vampire living in MegaKat city. >Whoa. Think about it. Feral actually having this "thing" for a=20 >woman! Very scary thought. I don't mean to dis his character, but frankly,= I=20 >don't like him very much; and the idea of a bunch of little duplicates of= =20 >him running around Megakat City gives me nightmares. Well, I'm glad that Feral isn't the one that suppose to be with Turmoil, can= you imagine what will happen next if Feral do get to meet Turmoil? BTW, why is that Feral isn't in "Cry Turmoil"? >> Dr. Jake > >P.S. I don't remember how long ago this was, or if anyone else remembers,= =20 >but one time A.J. made this suggestion about us um, how do I say this . . .= =20 >take the "role" of a character. (Like in the Sonic group on AOL. They have= a=20 >"Sonic" and a "Sally" etc. I replied and said I would rather do my own=20 >character, and I think will. I think that making your own character is a much better alternative, it lets= you to be more creative. >I'll add her name to my signature sooner or=20 >later. If you don't like the name, don't say anything, okay? =3D) Just sign it, I want to see the name. :) >I mean,=20 >we've got a "Razor" and "Chance" why not others, like he said? Well, if it's okay, I think that I like to join on this nickname thing too. >But I still think I will take my own personal character. Well, to take your own character is a very good way to get into the= character that you have created. Of course you also need to explain who is= your character and what position that he/she is in the SWAT Kats universe,= so that everybody will know who is he/she really are. I think that a story= is probaly the best way to do it. >Anyone understand what I just said? >If there are, good. Explain it to me. > > >Terra Chang: >currently a little too hyper to make any sense >writer and poet >crazy violin player (really I am!) BTW Terra, I like R & R (your newest stories), that's probaly not what= happen to the guys, but I still like the story anyway (Except for one thing= that is near the end of the story.), I do have one question though, who is= Maxwell Clawson? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 07:54:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id HAA02359 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 07:43:11 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA02354 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 07:43:08 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA51880 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 07:42:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 07:40:25 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.03611993.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Conversation between Edo and Terra: >>>She also suppose to appear on "Curse of Kataluna". >> >>Ah, yes, one of the infamous "unfinished episodes." The only good thing is >>that *one* of these days we're gonna get the script to it. But I remember >>reading somewhere (I think it was the Animato! article) that "The Deadly >>Pryamid" was really "Abi's" episode. Understand what I just said? >Well, in some sort of way, that episode is a "Sinian" episode. I think that Sinian's role was wisely use in that episode. Odd how you define it as 'her' episode. I realize now I would do it that way, too. In order to get a good picture of her character in my head, I watched "The Pastmaster Rings Twice" 4 times yesterday, and if you're going by length of appearance she really did have a bigger part in that one. In "Deadly Pyramid" (which I can barely stand because I practically had a weekend marathon of it last Sunday) she had a slightly smaller part, but it was better. Another cool thing about her character is she doesn't wear a suit. In "Pastmaster . . ." she wears this nice skirt and a top, not a suit. I CAN'T STAND SUITS!!!!! DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO MOVE IN THOSE THINGS?!? I always wonder how the women in Megakat City run in heels, too. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 08:03:50 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id HAA04554 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 07:48:42 -0500 Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA04549 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 07:48:40 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA33084 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 07:48:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 07:46:11 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.03612195.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Edo wrote: >>I thought I'd try and get a conversation started on her to see what >>you guys think about her character. She's my favorite (next to Jake), >Hmmm, Jake and Sinian. Is this the reason why you match them both? It's probably one of them. I also didn't feel like creating another female character when Sinian's all alone. And as you'll see in "Children of the Stone" and "Vurthuril" (the sequel), they kind of end up spending A LOT of time together 'cause they're always in the museum. >>so I've been doing some watching off all the episodes I have that >>feature her. >> She's never been mentioned in ANY fanfiction up, >Sinian is working for the museum, and most of us rarely use the museum for the fanfic stories. Are you kidding? My fanfics are museum museum museum museum museum museum . . . ok i'll stop now >>"Children onf the Stone" has a good amount (probably more than any >>episode can boast), and it's seqeul is basically an Abi/Jake/Thoran >>story (you don't know who he is yet. He gets introduced in the first >>one). >I wanted to read it just as soon as it's avaiable for downloading at rat.org. It isn't yet. B-Ko's still having problems. However, I may get an independent server next week or even (if this drags on too long) simply get my uncle to send them. He has a different server. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 11:21:52 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA18133 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 10:51:28 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA18128 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 10:51:20 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d149.infoserve.net [199.175.157.149]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA13570 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 08:01:17 -0800 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 08:01:17 -0800 Message-Id: <199603151601.IAA13570@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Leopold's Dr. Abby "Ms. Exposition!" Sinian Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>She also suppose to appear on "Curse of Kataluna". >> >>Ah, yes, one of the infamous "unfinished episodes." The only good thing is >>that *one* of these days we're gonna get the script to it. But I remember >>reading somewhere (I think it was the Animato! article) that "The Deadly >>Pryamid" was really "Abi's" episode. Understand what I just said? > >Well, in some sort of way, that episode is a "Sinian" episode. I think that Sinian's role was wisely use in that episode. I loved that ep, but one of the things that really *bugs* me about writing, is when the characters go into a kind of "Mr. Exposition" trance for the benefit of the audience only. Glenn Leopold wrote that ep and was the story editor for the series. One of the duties of story editor is to "listen" from the perspective of the audience and ensure that the way plot points are conveyed in the script will be understood by the viewers. Sometimes writers take "short cuts" when they're too lazy to 'explain' something another way, and the characters end up spouting unnatural dialogue that would never be spoken character-to-character in a 'real-life' situation. Leopold did that with "Pyramid" in the person of Dr. Sinian. Glenn had to introduce the name of the dig, and 'foreshadow' the appearance of that big nasty that tangled with T-Bone and swatted Razor, and he tried to do it all at once: "Tie everything down or we're going to lose months of work on this Katcchu-Picchu excavation!" Um, yeah. First of all, her co-workers - arthritic and sunburned after 'months of work' on said dig - would likely be quite familiar the name of the project, so their response should collectively have been a 'Molly Metallikat'-ish, "well....duh!". Glenn, though a good writer, did that kind of thing on a few other occasions as well, and in each case it grated just as badly. Still, I guess they have to cram a lot into 22 minutes, and they aren't exactly paid to do "Citizen Kane". _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 11:29:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA18372 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 10:58:39 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA18360 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 10:58:30 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d149.infoserve.net [199.175.157.149]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA14039 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 08:08:28 -0800 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 08:08:28 -0800 Message-Id: <199603151608.IAA14039@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian + Nicknames Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Well, I'm glad that Feral isn't the one that suppose to be with Turmoil, can you imagine what will happen next if Feral do get to meet Turmoil? > >BTW, why is that Feral isn't in "Cry Turmoil"? Feral was supposed to be in T-Bone's shoes for "Cry Turmoil", and the writer was ordered to revise the script in favour of T-Bone. Glenn Leopold got to use Feral in a semi-romantic situation instead with "Curse of Kataluna", which is described as "very much Feral's episode". A scene with Feral and Turmoil *would* be a lot of fun, especially if Feral needed some information that only she could provide, and maybe he has to negotiate her "price" for it? Heh. Feral isn't really stupid, but I think he's intellectually outclassed by Turmoil to a fair extent. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 11:29:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA19035 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:11:16 -0500 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA19030 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:11:14 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with SMTP id LAA23800 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:11:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d149.infoserve.net [199.175.157.149]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA14283 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 08:15:40 -0800 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 08:15:40 -0800 Message-Id: <199603151615.IAA14283@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >CAN'T STAND SUITS!!!!! DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO >MOVE IN THOSE THINGS?!? I used to know, but I gave them up in favour of 'toon shirts, jeans and hiking boots (which wind up resting on the desk more often then not...especially in any situation where that kind of thing "simply isn't done!".) I always wonder how the women in >Megakat City run in heels, too. I would imagine the same way that they do in all the Hollywood fluff with Michelle Pfeiffer and Kim Basinger. It just happens, and you aren't supposed to ask! At the moment I can't recall, but do we see any Kat-women driving other than Ms. Briggs? I know Felina can fly a chopper (my kinda girl!), but I don't remember seeing her, or Ann, or Abby behind the wheel. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 12:27:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA23012 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:51:08 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA23007 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:51:06 -0500 Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA00596 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:52:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:52:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199603151652.LAA00596@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@underdog.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 08:15 AM 3/15/96 -0800, you wrote: >At the moment I can't recall, but do we see any Kat-women driving other than Ms. >Briggs? I know Felina can fly a chopper (my kinda girl!), but I don't remember >seeing her, or Ann, or Abby behind the wheel. What about the old woman (I don't recall her name at the moment) whose car keeps breaking down and the guys always rush off and leave her stranded for most of the show? Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 13:04:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA25348 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 12:41:30 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA25339 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 12:41:20 -0500 Received: from net-2-073.austin.eden.com (net-2-073.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.73]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id LAA09031 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:41:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:41:08 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603151741.LAA09031@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I would imagine the same way that they do in all the Hollywood fluff with Michelle Pfeiffer >and Kim Basinger. It just happens, and you aren't supposed to ask! ACK! Don't start with Hollywood names!!!!! (My A.R. list is and has been disscussing who should be who in TVL (The Vampire Lestat) movie if it ever gets made, and right now I've had it up to *here* with big-time names. (You would be surprised at who they think should be who in Hollywood. Fabio as Nicki? Yeah right. Don't ask if you don't know.) >At the moment I can't recall, but do we see any Kat-women driving other than Ms. >Briggs? I know Felina can fly a chopper (my kinda girl!), but I don't remember >seeing her, or Ann, or Abby behind the wheel. Well, in "The Giant Ci-Kat-A," there is a scene where Ann is driving the KatsEye news van. It's right after the bug screams and makes Razor crash into the wall. (Awwww, poor baby . . .) Oh yeah, and something I got from Courtney: "If you wanna introduce someone to the series, do *not* show them "The Giant Ci-Kat-A." (She tried with her friend Logan (girl) and she didn't like it 'cept for the jets. They both are really obessesed with jets. Sheesh. Terra Chang: thinking about names (run for cover, everybody!) writer and poet crazy violin player (really I am!) "You've gone over the edge!" "Yeah--ain't it cool?" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 13:30:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA27166 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 12:47:12 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA27027 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 12:47:07 -0500 Received: from net-2-073.austin.eden.com (net-2-073.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.73]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id LAA09457 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:46:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:46:53 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603151746.LAA09457@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian + Nicknames X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Well, I'm not into vampires and that sorta thing, but I do think a lot of the posibilities of a vampire living in MegaKat city. Join the club!! >I think that making your own character is a much better alternative, it lets you to be more creative. You actually *liked* my idea? Whoa . . . that's a new one. >Just sign it, I want to see the name. :) Okay, but it'll probably be a play-on off of Jake's name. >Well, if it's okay, I think that I like to join on this nickname thing too. YEAH!!! COME JOIN THE INSANITY!!!!!! (Sorry . . . sugar buzz.) >Well, to take your own character is a very good way to get into the character that you have created. Of course you also need to explain who is your character and what position that he/she is in the SWAT Kats universe, so that everybody will know who is he/she really are. I think that a story is probaly the best way to do it. Oh. Yeah. Thanks. >BTW Terra, I like R & R (your newest stories), that's probaly not what happen to the guys, but I still like the story anyway (Except for one thing that is near the end of the story.), I do have one question though, who is Maxwell Clawson? Thanks. (Someone actually liked it!!! Ohmigosh!! ) Maxwell? Well, he was gonna be Jake's dad, but . . . I'm gonna write another story sorta like this one, but different, know what'm sayin'? Anyway, probably any story we write of their childhood won't be right, 'cause we aren't the story writers for the series. Terra Chang: thinking about names (run for cover, everybody!) writer and poet crazy violin player (really I am!) "You've gone over the edge!" "Yeah--ain't it cool?" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 17:10:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA14384 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 16:38:14 -0500 Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA14379 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 16:38:11 -0500 From: LtFFeral@AOL.COM Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA21575 for kats@bort.mv.net; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 16:38:44 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 16:38:44 -0500 Message-ID: <960315163844_352276976@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I always wonder how the women in >>Megakat City run in heels, too. > >I would imagine the same way that they do in all the Hollywood fluff with >Michelle Pfeiffer >and Kim Basinger. It just happens, and you aren't supposed to ask! Women CAN run in heels. I've done it! >At the moment I can't recall, but do we see any Kat-women driving other than >Ms. >Briggs? I know Felina can fly a chopper (my kinda girl!), but I don't >remember >seeing her, or Ann, or Abby behind the wheel. Hmmm. Could it be that Megakat City only allows men to drive? (except for those women in politics, of course:-)). Probably not, but you never know! Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa Anne/ "Ann Phibian KAT'S ALIVE! TOMORROW IS MARCH 16TH! AAAAHHHH! (I think I'm going to faint... From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 17:14:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA14405 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 16:38:37 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA14398 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 16:38:34 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.214] (dyn1214a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.214]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA02464 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 04:39:43 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 04:36:49 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Season 2--re-evaluation/apologies Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>The bitchy one with the high shrieks, "Oh save me from the evil >>>bad guy who wants to kill me!" > >>Well, from all the SWAT Kats episodes I watch, I never heard that >>particular line before. Do you know in what episode this line was said? > >That was not a quote, but it seemed to be the jist of what she was >saying. "jist"??? >>Well DJ, may I suggest more than a couple of days? > >OK OK, I TAKE IT BACK! I TAKE IT BACK! I'M SORRY I EVER SAID IT! >There? Is everybody satisfied? Well DJ, that's only a suggestion you know. After all, a riot can last for weeks, even months. >I'm terribly sorry, but it's women's >history month and I've been in a 'raging feminist' mood for about a >week now. She's not a bitch. She's just kind of annoying sometimes. Well cats (Or kats.) sometimes can be annoying. So I understand how do you feel. >I REALLY don't dig that damsel-in-distress thing, AT ALL. Neither do I, but somehow that the damsel-in-distress (I still much prefer kitten-in-distress.) thing seem to be a running gag. >I'll admit >she's quite advanced and politically correct, but once in a while the >kat guys will have to pull some rediciluss (sp?) stunt to save her. Well, it's very hard to be diplomatic with something that called gravity. >I'M SORRY, OK? Hey, you only voicing your opinions. I understand. >>Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id > > Dr. Jake ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 19:06:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA23662 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 18:40:24 -0500 Received: from fw2.turner.com (ilock.turner.com [198.81.230.32]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA23511 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 18:37:43 -0500 From: Marc.Grossmann@turner.com Received: from smap@localhost by fw2.turner.com via smapdV1.3 id SAA17907; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 18:36:36 -0500 Received: from ccmailout.turner.com by interlock.turner.com for via SMTP (smap V1.3) id sma017879; Fri Mar 15 18:36:22 1996 Received: from ccMail by ccmailout.turner.com (IMA Internet Exchange 1.04b) id 14a00b30; Fri, 15 Mar 96 18:43:47 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 15:33:43 -0500 Message-ID: <14a00b30@turner.com> Subject: Re: Kats Animation Art To: kats@bort.mv.net, chance@unix.infoserv.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Actually if you really want to know the price is going to be more like $400--don't know where he got his info. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > >The good news is that SWAT Kats cels should be released within the next >few months. The bad news is that the SRPs will be the same as the JQ >cels: $550-750 unframed :( From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 19:43:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA27244 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 19:23:39 -0500 Received: from PICA.ARMY.MIL (octavius.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.111]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA27239 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 19:23:37 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 96 19:23:55 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Kats Animation Art Message-ID: <9603151923.aa15717@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Marc.Grossmann@turner.com > Actually if you really want to know the price is going to be more like > $400--don't know where he got his info. > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >> >>The good news is that SWAT Kats cels should be released within the next >>few months. The bad news is that the SRPs will be the same as the JQ >>cels: $550-750 unframed :( Well then you might want to have a word with the Hanna Barbera reps who were in attendance at ArtExpo, as they were my source. OTOH, this lower price is wonderful news! Thank you ever so much for posting! Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 20:49:25 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA00981 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 20:18:57 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA00975 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 20:18:52 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.196] (dyn1196a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.196]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA08868 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 08:19:52 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 08:17:06 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Edo wrote: >>Hmmm, Jake and Sinian. Is this the reason why you match them both? > >It's probably one of them. I also didn't feel like creating another >female character when Sinian's all alone. How about creating a friend for Sinian? I got a good name for that friend, how about "Marsha"? ;) >And as you'll see in "Children >of the Stone" and "Vurthuril" (the sequel), "Vurthuril"??? >they kind of end up spending >A LOT of time together 'cause they're always in the museum. Oh, I see, so they kinda know each other more, right? > Dr. Jake ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 21:05:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA01031 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 20:20:08 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA01026 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 20:20:04 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.196] (dyn1196a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.196]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA08903 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 08:20:53 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 08:18:17 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Heels and Driving. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>I always wonder how the women in >>>Megakat City run in heels, too. > >Women CAN run in heels. I've done it! Break any speed record? >>At the moment I can't recall, but do we see any Kat-women driving other than >>Ms. Briggs? I know Felina can fly a chopper (my kinda girl!), but I don't >>remember seeing her, or Ann, or Abby behind the wheel. > >Hmmm. Could it be that Megakat City only allows men to drive? (except for >those women in politics, of course:-)). What do you mean by "in politics"? >Probably not, but you never know! Well, I haven't seen other lady Enforcer beside Felina. >Lt FFeral@aol.com >Melissa Anne/ "Ann Phibian KAT'S ALIVE! TOMORROW IS MARCH 16TH! AAAAHHHH! (I >think I'm going to faint... Today is March 16. ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 21:10:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA01009 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 20:19:36 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA01003 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 20:19:33 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.196] (dyn1196a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.196]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA08897 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 08:20:44 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 08:17:48 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Childhood... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Edo wrote: >>I think that making your own character is a much better alternative, it >>lets you to be more creative. Terra wrote: >You actually *liked* my idea? Whoa . . . that's a new one. Well Terra, I always think that your ideas are good. >>who is Maxwell Clawson? > >Maxwell? Well, he was gonna be Jake's dad, but . . . I'm gonna write another >story sorta like this one, but different, know what'm sayin'? Ok, so who is gonna be Jake's father in your story? >Anyway, probably any story we write of their childhood won't be right, >'cause we aren't the story writers for the series. Yeah, I guess so, the power to make it canon isn't with us, but we can always have fun guessing it. >Terra Chang: >thinking about names (run for cover, everybody!) >writer and poet >crazy violin player (really I am!) ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 21:28:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA01001 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 20:19:29 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA00996 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 20:19:26 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.196] (dyn1196a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.196]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA08880 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 08:20:16 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 08:17:40 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net DJ wrote: >Conversation between Edo and Terra: >>>But I remember reading somewhere that "The Deadly Pryamid" >>>was really "Abi's" episode. Understand what I just said? > >>Well, in some sort of way, that episode is a "Sinian" episode. I >>think that Sinian's role was wisely use in that episode. > >Odd how you define it as 'her' episode. Well, "Razor Edge's" is Felina's episode, "Unlikely Alloys" is the Metallikats's episode, and so on. >I realize now I would do it >that way, too. In order to get a good picture of her character in my >head, I watched "The Pastmaster Rings Twice" 4 times yesterday, >and if you're going by length of appearance she really did have a >biggerpart in that one. The length of appearance is not an important thing, a good role is an important thing. >In "Deadly Pyramid" (which I can barely >stand because I practically had a weekend marathon of it last Sunday) >she had a slightly smaller part, but it was better. A 2 seconds scene can be a great scene. > Another cool thing about her character is she doesn't wear a suit. >In "Pastmaster . . ." she wears this nice skirt and a top, not a suit. "Suit"??? which suit that are you talking about? >I CAN'T STAND SUITS!!!!! DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO >MOVE IN THOSE THINGS?!? Yeah, not to mention wearing one of those in a hot day, no wonder the air conditioning system in the building always set on very low. >I always wonder how the women in >Megakat City run in heels, too. "Cartoon physics". ;) > Dr. Jake ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 21:36:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA05657 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 21:24:29 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA05647 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 21:24:24 -0500 Received: from net-2-073.austin.eden.com (net-4-145.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.145]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id UAA16226 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 20:24:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 20:24:10 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603160224.UAA16226@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Childhood... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Well Terra, I always think that your ideas are good. ACk, don't do that. I'm blushing! >Ok, so who is gonna be Jake's father in your story? I dunno what his name'll be yet . . . but I did like making Jake's father a bad guy. Maybe I'll keep that notion . . . after all, it gave him justification to become an Enforcer, didn't it? >Yeah, I guess so, the power to make it canon isn't with us, but we can always have fun guessing it. Yeah . . . but then, to me, just plain *writing* the stories are fun. If only I could pull off what I *really* wanna try writing. Well, if people think I should try pulling off this story stunt (and if I do, and it's a succses(sp?), I am gonna have a heart attack.) And what's the idea? I'm too embarassed. I'll tell if I'm asked very nicely, but otherwise, it's just gonna become another idea lost somewhere in the gray matter of my brain. Oh well. Write, write, write, write! Let's get some stories in before summer vacation!!! Ooooooh, my head. Y'know, I think I posted more this week than I have for a while. And Courtney was becoming worried I didn't like SK anymore . . . Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist "You've gone over the edge!" "Yeah--ain't it cool?" "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 22:50:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA09591 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 22:25:38 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA09586 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 22:25:32 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d152.infoserve.net [199.175.157.152]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA17776 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 19:35:48 -0800 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 19:35:48 -0800 Message-Id: <199603160335.TAA17776@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Kats Animation Art Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Marc Grossman wrote: > Actually if you really want to know the price is going to be more like > $400--don't know where he got his info. Thanks for the correction. A trip through our 'Cartoon Corner'-like outlet reveals not a whole lot below the $350.00 mark, so the Kat cels aren't out of line ('sides, the art will sure be better than most of the WB cels - provided the Mook stuff makes it to market in addition to the first season Hanho stuff). _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 22:56:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA10508 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 22:45:26 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA10178 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 22:45:10 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d152.infoserve.net [199.175.157.152]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA18741 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 19:55:18 -0800 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 19:55:18 -0800 Message-Id: <199603160355.TAA18741@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >At 08:15 AM 3/15/96 -0800, you wrote: > >>At the moment I can't recall, but do we see any Kat-women driving other >than Ms. >>Briggs? I know Felina can fly a chopper (my kinda girl!), but I don't remember >>seeing her, or Ann, or Abby behind the wheel. > >What about the old woman (I don't recall her name at the moment) whose car >keeps breaking down and the guys always rush off and leave her stranded for >most of the show? Heh. She doesn't have a name, but all her cameos in the 'Kats were priceless! Chance's rather impolite "this ain't a pizza delivery service, lady!" has been used by myself on a few occasions when "as soon as possible" simply wasn't fast enough for certain people. Chance's Pizza Delivery: Guaranteed delivery in under 30 minutes or your pizza's cold! _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 15 23:14:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA12442 for kats-ll; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 22:58:13 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA12434 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 22:58:07 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d152.infoserve.net [199.175.157.152]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA19507 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 20:08:24 -0800 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 20:08:24 -0800 Message-Id: <199603160408.UAA19507@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Well, in "The Giant Ci-Kat-A," there is a scene where Ann is driving the >KatsEye news van. It's right after the bug screams and makes Razor crash >into the wall. (Awwww, poor baby . . .) Yeah, that's right, isn't it? They say the memory goes first. >Oh yeah, and something I got from Courtney: >"If you wanna introduce someone to the series, do *not* show them "The Giant >Ci-Kat-A." (She tried with her friend Logan (girl) and she didn't like it >'cept for the jets. They both are really obessesed with jets. Sheesh. Hey..that was a great episode. Chance reveals his fear of bugs (spideys with me...), "I thought 'Hard Shell' was about a tank...not about some giant beetle...", and Razor takes time out to tease him about it even though they're in the heat of battle! CHANCE: "Why did it have to be *bugs*..." RAZOR: (sadistically) "...just like that Movie...hey, T-Bone..." Heh. It had a predictable "gee...another giant creature" type structure to it, but the dialogue was great throughout, and it kinda reminded me of those Godzilla/Mothra kinda things from the fifties/sixties. I think it was one of the faster-paced eps as well, and had a few unexpected surprises like all those poor Enforcer troops getting blown out of the sky after being 'infected' with nary a parachute in sight. MCPD must have *quite* the signing bonus for new recruits. (Oh yeah, Dr. Harley Street was to team up with Viper in the unfinished "Doctors of Doom". Maybe some kind soul will dig up the script for *that* one too.) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 16 10:54:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA01264 for kats-ll; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 10:39:52 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA01259 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 10:39:49 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.212] (dyn1212a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.212]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA04419 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 22:40:56 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 22:38:05 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Introducing the series to someone . Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Oh yeah, and something I got from Courtney: >"If you wanna introduce someone to the series, do *not* show them "The Giant >Ci-Kat-A." (She tried with her friend Logan (girl) and she didn't like it >'cept for the jets. What jets? The only jet that I saw in that episode is only the TurboKat. >They both are really obessesed with jets. Sheesh. How about "The Metallikats"? that is a good one, that is also my first SK episode. >Terra Chang: >thinking about names (run for cover, everybody!) >writer and poet >crazy violin player (really I am!) ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 16 14:01:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA11529 for kats-ll; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 13:35:28 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA11522 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 13:35:25 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA23644; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 13:40:57 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 13:40:56 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Kat Cels Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net How much would a Kat cel be worth if it was signed by the Tremblays? Just wonderin' :) A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 16 14:38:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA14995 for kats-ll; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 14:25:00 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA14990 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 14:24:56 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.54] (dyn1054a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.54]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA09779 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 02:26:02 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 02:23:13 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Cry Turmoil Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Edo wrote: >>Well, I'm glad that Feral isn't the one that supposed to be with Turmoil, can you imagine what will happen next if >>Feral do get to meet Turmoil? >> >>BTW, why is that Feral isn't in "Cry Turmoil"? chance wrote: >Feral was supposed to be in T-Bone's shoes for "Cry Turmoil", and the writer >was ordered to revise the script in favour of T-Bone. Why is that T-Bone was choosen to go with Turmoil instead of Feral? and why is that Feral was cut out from the final version of "Cry Turmoil"? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 16 14:52:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA15147 for kats-ll; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 14:31:34 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA15122 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 14:30:31 -0500 Received: from net-6-182.austin.eden.com (net-6-182.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.182]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id NAA09940 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 13:29:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 13:29:58 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603161929.NAA09940@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Kat Cels X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >How much would a Kat cel be worth if it was signed by the Tremblays? Just >wonderin' :) Don't matter how much. I won't have enough. but, oh well, can't have everything . . . (but you can come damn close!) BTW, A.J., whatever happened to "Shadow of the Red Lynx" fanfic (I *think* that was the title)?? >A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please >ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! >"Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club >SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist "You've gone over the edge!" "Yeah--ain't it cool?" "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 16 15:08:29 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA15485 for kats-ll; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 14:43:54 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA15464 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 14:43:34 -0500 Received: from net-6-182.austin.eden.com (net-6-182.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.182]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id NAA10489 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 13:43:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 13:43:23 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603161943.NAA10489@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Cry Turmoil X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Why is that T-Bone was choosen to go with Turmoil instead of Feral? and why is that Feral was cut out from the final version of "Cry Turmoil"? 'Cause an H-B executive changed it, he said something about it being about the SWAT Kats, not Feral, change it to T-Bone. It says that somewhere in the Animato! article, under the episode description of "Cry Turmoil." Has anyone else noticed how stupid some executives can be? Remember "When Strikes Mutilor?" The Aquians were *supposed* to be humans!! It would've been *soooo* cool if they were, but an executive changed it. Too bad. If they had kept it with people, it would've been me and Courtney's favorite episode, no matter *how* bad the rest of it was!!! I'm okay now . . . I think. C'ya! >------------------------------------- >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >"A shining beacon, all alone in the night." > > > Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist "You've gone over the edge!" "Yeah--ain't it cool?" "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 16 18:31:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA28214 for kats-ll; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 18:11:21 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA28180 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 18:10:52 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d149.infoserve.net [199.175.157.149]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA00136 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 15:21:40 -0800 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 15:21:40 -0800 Message-Id: <199603162321.PAA00136@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Cry Turmoil Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Why is that T-Bone was choosen to go with Turmoil instead of Feral? and why >is that Feral was cut out from the final version of "Cry Turmoil"? > >'Cause an H-B executive changed it, he said something about it being about >the SWAT Kats, not Feral, change it to T-Bone. It says that somewhere in the >Animato! article, under the episode description of "Cry Turmoil." Yup, basically right. It was supposed to be a 22-minute script with Feral *actually* switching sides and only reverting to Mr. Law 'n' Order when it became evident that Turmoil's plans were doomed, and claiming that he was just stringing her along the whole time. The writer intended it to be a statement that Feral could be a bad Kat under the right set of circumstances, and that a combination of "underappreciation" in MCPD and the opportunity presented by Turmoil provided those circumstances. The writer was told "the show is about the Kat Guys; don't overdevelop the supporting cast" and the role was swapped from Feral to T-Bone, and the episode shrunk to a short. It took a lot of convincing to get Falk to write another script. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 16 22:19:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA11341 for kats-ll; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 22:06:09 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA11334 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 22:06:05 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.204] (dyn1204a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.204]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA18074 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 10:07:19 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 10:04:23 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Ann Gora's earrings. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net How do she wear them anyway? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 16 22:33:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA11350 for kats-ll; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 22:06:12 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA11343 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 22:06:09 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.204] (dyn1204a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.204]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA18078 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 10:07:22 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 10:04:26 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Cry Turmoil + When Strikes Mutilor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Why is that T-Bone was choosen to go with Turmoil instead of Feral? and= why=20 >>is that Feral was cut out from the final version of "Cry Turmoil"? > >'Cause an H-B executive changed it, he said something about it being about= =20 >the SWAT Kats, not Feral, change it to T-Bone. It says that somewhere in= the=20 >Animato! article, under the episode description of "Cry Turmoil." Yeah, that I can understand (Although that I think that they should do a= little bit deviation by focusing on Feral or some other characters instead= of focusing just on the SwatKats.), but why is that Feral wasn't in "Cry= Turmoil"? It's a real pain to see someone was cut from a episode. >Has anyone else noticed how stupid some executives can be? Well, stupid people leads the workers. >Remember "When=20 >Strikes Mutilor?" The Aquians were *supposed* to be humans!! It would've=20 >been *soooo* cool if they were, but an executive changed it. Hmmm, I think that the addition of human into the SWAT Kats universe is a= very big step. So if humans do get introduced to the series, I think that= they should be very careful on how do they introduced the humans. >Too bad. If=20 >they had kept it with people, it would've been me and Courtney's favorite= =20 >episode, no matter *how* bad the rest of it was!!! Well I like that episode, I think that the coolest scene is probaly when the= SwatKats are fighting Mutilor by using the ThunderTruck. >I'm okay now . . . I think. C'ya! > >>------------------------------------- >>Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >>"A shining beacon, all alone in the night." > >Terra Chang: >writer and poet >crazy violinist ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 16 22:54:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA12142 for kats-ll; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 22:38:16 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA12137 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 22:38:13 -0500 Received: from net-4-138.austin.eden.com (net-4-138.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.138]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id VAA01662 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 21:37:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 21:37:55 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603170337.VAA01662@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Ann Gora's earrings. X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >How do she wear them anyway? When does she wear them? I haven't been watching for a while. (For shame!) When does she wear earings? Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 16 23:00:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA13221 for kats-ll; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 22:45:12 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA12978 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 22:45:05 -0500 Received: from net-4-138.austin.eden.com (net-4-138.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.138]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id VAA01876 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 21:44:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 21:44:57 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603170344.VAA01876@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Cry Turmoil + When Strikes Mutilor X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Yeah, that I can understand (Although that I think that they should do a little bit deviation by focusing on Feral or some other characters instead of focusing just on the SwatKats.), but why is that Feral wasn't in "Cry Turmoil"? It's a real pain to see someone was cut from a episode. Hmmmm . . . are you talking about Callie? >>Has anyone else noticed how stupid some executives can be? > >Well, stupid people leads the workers. Hmmm . . . quote: "Who more foolish? The fool or the fool who follows him?" (Try and guess where I got that from!) >Hmmm, I think that the addition of human into the SWAT Kats universe is a very big step. So if humans do get introduced to the series, I think that they should be very careful on how do they introduced the humans. Yeah . . . but still, it would've been cool. >Well I like that episode, I think that the coolest scene is probaly when the SwatKats are fighting Mutilor by using the ThunderTruck. YEAH! YEAH! YEAH! BIG EXPLOSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >"A shining beacon, all alone in the night." Claudia? Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 16 23:24:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA15234 for kats-ll; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 23:12:28 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA15229 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 23:12:20 -0500 Received: from net-4-138.austin.eden.com (net-4-138.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.138]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id WAA03002 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 22:12:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 22:12:10 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603170412.WAA03002@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: teaser for a tale (name says it all) X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Okay, I have an inkling of an idea for a story in the back of my head, and I want your opinions. Should I finish the whole twisted tale or run away while I can? Read on and see. This is an excert from something I've been cooking up for quite a while . . . . This would probably be rated R for violence and some pretty heavy mental images. Don't kill me, just read and tell me what you think. EXCERT FROM "THE LONG ROAD HOME" I stood there watching them cart the thing away, shuddering from the strain and exhaustion I felt. When was the last time I had gotten any decent amount of sleep? And the pain . . . I didn't know it would be like this!! I didn't know this would happen! I didn't know that . . . that . . . that *he* would be killed! I felt numb, all of a sudden, then vaguely peaceful. I looked down at my tightly clenched hand. I still held the gun in my hands. A smile spread over my face at this realization, a maniac smile of one who has nothing left to live for. And that was most definetely me. Yes . . . so simple. Just lift the gun, put it next to your skull and pull. Not that hard. Do it. End the pain. Yes . . . do it . . . no pain . . . But of course I don't. I'm too much of a coward to end it yet. Even when *he* is turning into rot and mold and dust as I walk and move. And the guilt makes it worse. Guilt from the knowledge that *I* could've prevented his death; guilt that I go on while he is rotting slowly in the ground; guilt that I am still alive while he, who did not deserve such pain and suffering at my hands, does not. Oh why, *why* did you have to go? I do not know if I say this out loud or if they just run rampart in my brain. *His* image is burning in my brain, and no matter how deep I sleep at night, I still see that face, those eyes, souless and hollow as he accuses me of everything I have done to him. And I deny it, even though I know it be true, as does he, and the jury who sits faceless behind us as we scream and curse each other. And suddenly, in my animal lust to see his sneering face lying smashed and broken on the stone floor, I suddenly leap at him, out of my own violation, and wrap my hands around his neck and squeeze as hard as I can, my knuckles turning white as he chokes and gasps and thrashes in my grasp. And I am laughing cruelly, taunt him as I slowly and mercilessly tighten my grip. His eyes are bugging out at this point, his face blue, visible even under the short fur. And then it is over. He is dead and once more I am the cause of it. And when the rage that so comsummed me minutes before leaves me, I see him lying there, broken and bloody, his face forever frozen in a look of pleading, begging me to stop, begging me to let him go . . . . . . and I did not. The jury stirs and mutters, both angrily and restlessly. A voice, deep and hollow booms throughout my mind. "Traitor! Murderer! Beassssst!!" Oh, and that last word . . . spoken in the silvery hiss of dry coils rubbing against each other, and I run, putting my hands to my ears and run, stumbling in my haste, tears flowing freely down my face, run and run and run and run . . . but I cannot get away. Okay, that was it. So, whaddya think? Should I finish it, or leave it like this and try something less . . . um, heavy? Should I run away and never come back to this . . . or should I finish it, pour out the whole bloody and depressing and moody tale? Well, whaddya think? Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 16 23:57:50 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA18193 for kats-ll; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 23:46:50 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA18188 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 23:46:46 -0500 Received: from bossrkf9.bossnt.com (bossrkf9.bossnt.com [198.150.207.49]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA03274 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 23:48:33 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 23:48:33 -0500 Message-Id: <199603170448.XAA03274@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: peej@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Peejster Subject: Swat Kat Plushes Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Do any of you folks know of any Swat Kat plushes? I know of the action figures and such. Peejster From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 00:07:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA18971 for kats-ll; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 23:56:05 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA18945 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 23:55:59 -0500 Received: from sl11.redding.snowcrest.net (sl3.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.67]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA14134 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 21:09:57 -0800 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 21:09:57 -0800 Message-Id: <199603170509.VAA14134@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: SWAT Kats MIDI Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Yes, I know. This is VERY old news, but I've been kicked off the Internet (and my main scources of kats stuff ack!) for over three weeks, now so I deserve a bit of slack here! >>>Just a short thing here, but if there is a SWAT Kats MIDI file out there, >>>send it to B-Ko Daitokuji and I will get it from him. Ahem. did you clear it with me first? I DON'T THINK SO! (The only thing I duplicate Katswize is the eps [I've still only got 23 of them UGH!]) >>I think that A.J. is currently working on a SWAT Kats MIDI file. Well hurry up! I'm dying to hear it (The cheesier and more 8 (or 16)-bit computer style, the better!! I love 8-bit!) > >Yes, well A.J.'s mailbox was full to overflowing with unread mail, and the list >server refuses to send him any more until he catches up with the backlog or >starts indiscrminately deleting in the name of sanity. We all get behind occasionally, >I guess. Don't let this happen to you, it's hell! _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 03:51:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id DAA06698 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 03:46:12 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id DAA06693 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 03:46:08 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.82] (dyn1082a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.82]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA26146 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 15:47:13 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 15:44:25 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Ann Gora's earings. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>How do she wear them anyway? > >When does she wear them? I haven't been watching for a while. (For shame!) >When does she wear earings? In every episodes that she appears (Well, from what I remember from my memory anyway. But then again, there's a hole in my mind.). >Terra Chang: >writer and poet >crazy violinist ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 08:16:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA20227 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 08:11:33 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA20222 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 08:11:30 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.88] (dyn1088a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.88]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA02386 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:12:41 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:09:45 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Characters + Fools + Humans Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Yeah, that I can understand (Although that I think that they should do a >little bit deviation by focusing on Feral or some other characters instead >of focusing just on the SwatKats.), but why is that Feral wasn't in "Cry >Turmoil"? It's a real pain to see someone was cut from an episode. > >Hmmmm . . . are you talking about Callie? Er, yes and no. I really hate it if one of the character was cut from an episode. But really, I do think that she get a good character placement in "Cry Turmoil". >>>Has anyone else noticed how stupid some executives can be? >> >>Well, stupid people leads the workers. > >Hmmm . . . quote: "Who more foolish? The fool or the fool who follows him?" >(Try and guess where I got that from!) Hmmm...... >>Hmmm, I think that the addition of human into the SWAT Kats universe is >>a very big step. So if humans do get introduced to the series, I think that >>they should be very careful on how do they introduced the humans. > >Yeah . . . but still, it would've been cool. Yeah, so is playing with fire. >>Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >>"A shining beacon, all alone in the night." > >Claudia? Claudia who? >Terra Chang: >writer and poet >crazy violinist To LtFFeral@aol.com: Ok, so what happen in March 16? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 11:04:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA27229 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 10:32:02 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA27224 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 10:31:59 -0500 Received: from net-2-066.austin.eden.com (net-2-066.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.66]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id JAA07434 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 09:31:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 09:31:54 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603171531.JAA07434@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Characters + Fools + Humans X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Er, yes and no. I really hate it if one of the character was cut from an episode. But really, I do think that she get a good character placement in "Cry Turmoil". Did she even appear? I don't remember that! >Hmmm...... >Yeah, so is playing with fire. I've got five candles in my room, and I lit them almost every night. >Claudia who? Claudia from IwtV. Part of your signature reminds me of a description Louis gave after the false death of Lestat. I can explain more later, but this is a 'Kats list, not A.R. >To LtFFeral@aol.com: >Ok, so what happen in March 16? Yeah, why did you say you think you were gonna faint? (Must've been pretty big.) >------------------------------------- >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >"A shining beacon, all alone in the night." Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 11:26:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA29935 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 11:07:27 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA29928 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 11:07:22 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d142.infoserve.net [199.175.157.142]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA05765 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 08:18:34 -0800 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 08:18:34 -0800 Message-Id: <199603171618.IAA05765@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Execs seldom focus on the same things we do... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>Yeah, that I can understand (Although that I think that they should do a >>little bit deviation by focusing on Feral or some other characters instead >>of focusing just on the SwatKats.), but why is that Feral wasn't in "Cry >>Turmoil"? It's a real pain to see someone was cut from an episode. >> >>Hmmmm . . . are you talking about Callie? > >Er, yes and no. I really hate it if one of the character was cut from an episode. But really, I do think >that she get a good character placement in "Cry Turmoil". Part of the reason that the supporting cast wasn't developed is likely that a "kiddie" ac/adv effort has to remain focussed on those elements that will hit the toy shelves before Christmas. If you take TMNT for example, the first miniseries kept the camera tight on the four turtle-dudes, April, and Shredder..which were indeed the only toys you could purchase that first season (as I recall). Followup seasons of the 'Kitties would've seen both an expanded toy line (according to Remco), some new bad guys, and some stories that would've shared the spotlight with the other castmembers interspersed with the giant monster battles we all know and love. I also think Turner vastly underestimated the average intelligence of viewers in general, but Kats viewers specifically. Most of the people on this list that I've spoken to over the course of a year or so are smarter than the average bear, liked the Katseps completed to date, but saw that more "mature" storylines were possible within the context of Kat-dom without shaking off the "other" audience. Look at the fanfic for example. The execs had been with other shows in kiddieville and learned their stuff during the mid-80's or earlier when things were a bit different. Everyone in 1991-93 was trying to come up with the next "Ninja Turtles" without realizing that it's unlikely a single property will ever again capture that kind of audience share now that the structure of things is so different from when the TMNT hit air in 1987. Problem was, Tedco expected TMNT-style licensing returns without venturing into TMNT-style licensing, and wasn't willing to give the program the support it needed to return the investment (something 'Garfield's Mark Evanier calls "deficit-financed"). Anyway, whenever you ask yourself a question that begins "why didn't they..." in terms of more adult storylines and such, remember that the creative crew were probably thinking along those lines, while the execs were thinking "it won't sell in toy stores". (I dunno, *I'd* certainly have purchased a "Feral" ac-fig...but then again I'm not a 9yr. old MMPR fan) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 11:56:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA00772 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 11:42:14 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA00766 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 11:42:11 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.148] (dyn1148a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.148]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA08575 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 23:43:22 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 23:40:27 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Stereo WAV, is it necesary? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Well, I don't know if this message is okay for this list, but since that= it's about the SWAT Kats, I guess that it's okay to talk about it in this= list. So don't fire any missile at me if I make a mistake by posting this= message. This message is directed to who ever that is currently (Or are= about to.) make sound clips from the series. I just downloaded some WAV files from rat.org, I found that the stereo files= isn't very necesary because the file size is double the size of a normal= WAV file (If we want hear the SWAT Kats theme song in stereo, I suggest= that we use a stereo MOD file instead of a stereo WAV file.). ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 12:01:29 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA00829 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 11:42:57 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA00814 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 11:42:53 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.148] (dyn1148a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.148]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA08614 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 23:44:04 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 23:41:11 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: The original TurboKat. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>>Is the original TurboKat suppose to have two engine instead of three? >>> >>>Well, though it's rather erratic in the various episodes, that 'third engine' was normally >>>used only as a thruster (as I recall) until Razor's various engine modifications later >>>on. >> >>What kind of engine modifications? > >Well, aside from "Speed of Heat", I'm still wondering about the "speed of heat" thing. >there's an ep (and I can't recall the title without >spending some time looking) where Razor's just finished doing some mod or other, >and they're in the air heading off to some emergency. T-Bone says something >along the lines of "We'll be right there!", to which Razor replies, "We'll get *there* >a lot faster with *all* our engines!", then the third nozzle of the TK ingites. So basicaly the third engine is normaly used as an extra thruster in an afterburner flight, right? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 12:09:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA00788 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 11:42:30 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA00781 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 11:42:27 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.148] (dyn1148a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.148]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA08591 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 23:43:34 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 23:40:42 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: story stuff (good enough subject as any . . .) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > What I thought was that maybe either the Rat or Chance could make >another file sorta thingey in the story site for summaries. Now, before you >start chewing me out, lemme 'splain. > When an author writes something and sends it to the Rat, they could >also write a short (one paragraph or so) summary of the story, that sort of >thing. Like the paragraph that you are using right now? > And also (I got this idea from the Black Rose's spec archieve) we >could make different divisions, y'know, like one place for humor stories, >one for action, one for ongoing series, that sorta thing. See, the Black >Rose puts the stories in these different catagories like "Finished" and "In >Progress" and "Silly" and so on. I got another idea, lets do the same for the kats/image/drawn directory, I'm still confuse on who draw who. > I know there's no humor stories yet, but who knows? Maybe one of >these days I'll write one. =) Well, I think that one of Ryan's stories can be consider as one. BTW, have anybody here have been thinking on making a humourous top ten list about the SwatKats? or some sort of cross-overs? > Like I said before, this is only an idea. Anyone like it? Do tell. >Do tell. =) Well, the SWAT Kats fanfic stories is only a few now, but I'm sure that when there is over 30-40 fanfic stories in rat.org, I think that the catagory thing will be perfect. >Terra Chang: >M.T.S.C. (More Than Slightly Cracked) >happy, happy, joy, joy, >Wondering "what the heck will the others think of my idea?" ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 12:11:05 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA00840 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 11:43:00 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA00830 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 11:42:57 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.148] (dyn1148a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.148]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA08619 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 23:44:10 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 23:41:14 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Childhood... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Well Terra, I always think that your ideas are good. > >ACk, don't do that. I'm blushing! He.he.he, I like it when you blush. :) >>Ok, so who is gonna be Jake's father in your story? > >I dunno what his name'll be yet . . . but I did like making Jake's father a= =20 >bad guy. Maybe I'll keep that notion . . . after all, it gave him=20 >justification to become an Enforcer, didn't it? Well, to join the Enforcer just because he felt guilty about on what his= father did before probaly isn't a very strong reason. But hey, it's your= story, do what ever you like. I think that Chance probaly screw up a lot of things in his life, and the= Enforcer maybe his last chance to patch things up. You could make him= encountering some problems with alchohol in his past life, but I don't= think that exactly his character, of course since that this a fanfic. Well,= you decide. After all, this is your story. Meanwhile Jake, there is some posibilities. The question is, which way? >If only I could pull off what I *really* wanna try writing. Well, >if people think I should try pulling off this story stunt. >And what's the idea? I'm too embarassed. I'll tell if I'm asked very= nicely,=20 >but otherwise, it's just gonna become another idea lost somewhere in the=20 >gray matter of my brain. Pretty please with cherry on top. :) >Terra Chang: >writer and poet >crazy violinist >"I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands.= =20 >Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" Heh. Sound like something that Feral will likely to say. ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 13:14:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA06571 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 12:57:27 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA06566 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 12:57:24 -0500 Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA04721 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 12:59:36 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 12:59:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199603171759.MAA04721@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@underdog.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: Stereo WAV, is it necesary? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 11:40 PM 3/17/96 +0700, you wrote: >I just downloaded some WAV files from rat.org, I found that the stereo files isn't very >necesary because the file size is double the size of a normal WAV file (If we want hear the Actually, unless you are coming off of one of the precorded video tapes, here's a better reason: Neither The Cartoon Network or TBS broadcast in stereo. Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 13:52:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA07587 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 13:38:10 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA07581 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 13:38:06 -0500 Received: from net-2-066.austin.eden.com (net-4-148.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.148]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id MAA14535 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 12:38:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 12:38:03 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603171838.MAA14535@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Childhood... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>If only I could pull off what I *really* wanna try writing. Well, >>if people think I should try pulling off this story stunt. >>And what's the idea? I'm too embarassed. I'll tell if I'm asked very nicely, >>but otherwise, it's just gonna become another idea lost somewhere in the >>gray matter of my brain. > >Pretty please with cherry on top. :) Well, since you asked so nicely . . . This is a "crazy idea" ala Razor. (e.g. "Razor, is this another one of your crazy ideas?" What I was thinking was to combine all of us writers into an RPG.(Role Playing Game.) I mean all of us, and make it into one HUGE story that we can all drag up and say "Twenty years from now I'm gonna look back on this and laaaaaaugh." But I need the list's approval and help. After all, one person by herself or himself, or even two people cannot do it. I was thinking, one RPG for us, and we each take on rolls of our own . . . (ala my "assuming the idenity of a character" idea.) They did it in the a.b.a.r. (I'm *NOT* saying either is better, I'm using them for an example for that it *can* be done!!!) So, what do you people think? Like it? An RPG of the 'Kats list? what say? And, if we do this, I wanna do the first post. I mean, it's only fair, 'caue it was my idea!! And who knows?! If this works, we can always try another one!! So what do you guys think? Go for it or drop it? Well?!?!?! Should we? (And I already have an idea of who should be Chance . . . ) Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan Thinking: Are we gonna go through with my crazy idea or not? "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 14:49:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA10988 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 14:42:22 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA10983 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 14:42:19 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.170] (dyn1170a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.170]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA12183 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 02:43:32 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 02:40:36 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Characters + Fire + Claudia Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Er, yes and no. I really hate it if one of the character was cut from an >>episode. But really, I do think that she get a good character placement in >>"Cry Turmoil". > >Did she even appear? I don't remember that! Bingo! that is exactly what I mean (She doesn't appear in "Cry Turmoil".), now why would a Deputy Mayor be running around inside a carrier? I think that episode really place her in a right place. >>Yeah, so is playing with fire. > >I've got five candles in my room, and I lit them almost every night. whistling> He.he.he, I always like playing with fire. "MatchHead Missile, DEPLOYED!" >>Claudia who? > >Claudia from IwtV. Part of your signature reminds me of a description Louis >gave after the false death of Lestat. I can explain more later, but this is >a 'Kats list, not A.R. Oh, I thought that you were refering to Claudia Christian. >>To LtFFeral@aol.com: >>Ok, so what happen in March 16? > >Yeah, why did you say you think you were gonna faint? (Must've been pretty big.) Let me guess, a gigantic purple ape is coming to your home for a visit, right Melissa? >>------------------------------------- >>Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >>"A shining beacon, all alone in the night." > >Terra Chang: >writer and poet >crazy violinist >SWAT Kats lover >Anne Rice fan ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 14:57:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA11009 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 14:42:47 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA11004 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 14:42:44 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.170] (dyn1170a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.170]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA12194 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 02:43:56 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 02:41:00 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Terra's Crazy idea... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >This is a "crazy idea" ala Razor. (e.g. "Razor, is this another one of your >crazy ideas?" >What I was thinking was to combine all of us writers into an RPG.(Role >Playing Game.) I mean all of us, and make it into one HUGE story that we can >all drag up and say "Twenty years from now I'm gonna look back on this and >laaaaaaugh." Cool! just like what they did on the Defiant Story List, they write story, then when the people that write it finish the story, they passed to others so that the story will continue. >But I need the list's approval and help. After all, one person by herself or >himself, or even two people cannot do it. I was thinking, one RPG for us, >and we each take on rolls of our own . . . (ala my "assuming the idenity of >a character" idea.) They did it in the a.b.a.r. (I'm *NOT* saying either is >better, I'm using them for an example for that it *can* be done!!!) Hey, it really can be done, the Defiant Story List that I subscribe to also can be consider as an example. Of course in the Defiant RPG, the one that lead us (The Defiant Crew) is Captain Bridges, now who is the one that are gonna lead us Kats? >So, what do you people think? Like it? An RPG of the 'Kats list? what say? >And, if we do this, I wanna do the first post. I mean, it's only fair, 'caue >it was my idea!! >And who knows?! If this works, we can always try another one!! > >So what do you guys think? Go for it or drop it? >Well?!?!?! Should we? Come people, we need more vote on this idea. Should we do it? >(And I already have an idea of who should be Chance . . . ) > >Terra Chang: >writer and poet >crazy violinist >SWAT Kats lover >Anne Rice fan >Thinking: Are we gonna go through with my crazy idea or not? Well Terra, I always follow you when ever you go. ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 15:02:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA13250 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 14:55:42 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA13238 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 14:55:18 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d155.infoserve.net [199.175.157.155]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA14681 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 12:06:37 -0800 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 12:06:37 -0800 Message-Id: <199603172006.MAA14681@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: The original TurboKat. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Chance wrote: >>there's an ep (and I can't recall the title without >>spending some time looking) where Razor's just finished doing some mod or other, >>and they're in the air heading off to some emergency. T-Bone says something >>along the lines of "We'll be right there!", to which Razor replies, "We'll get *there* >>a lot faster with *all* our engines!", then the third nozzle of the TK ingites. Edo wrote: >So basicaly the third engine is normaly used as an extra thruster in an afterburner flight, right? You'd figure that's how it *should* work, but the storyboard artists didn't make it clear to the overseas animators, I would guess, as that third nozzle seems to more or less randomly show "exhaust" whether they're hot to get somewhere or just taking in the view. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 15:18:45 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA13457 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 15:06:05 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA13450 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 15:05:59 -0500 Received: from net-2-066.austin.eden.com (net-4-148.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.148]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id OAA18401 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 14:05:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 14:05:56 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603172005.OAA18401@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: My crazy idea . . . (sorry, had to edit this . . . X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Cool! just like what they did on the Defiant Story List, they write story, then when the people that write it finish the story, they passed to others so that the story will continue. PROOF!! See people, it *does* work!!! >Of course in the Defiant RPG, the one that lead us (The Defiant Crew) is Captain Bridges, now who is the one that are gonna lead us Kats? Details, details . . . Either somebody who knows what they're doing . . . or maybe I can do it, I'm not sure. > Careful, we don't want you to do any serious damage to yourself. If you do, you can't help. >Come people, we need more vote on this idea. Should we do it? Yeah! YEAH! COme AgrEE wItH tHIS inSanE iDEA!!! >Well Terra, I always follow you when ever you go. Oh . . . I feel so appreciated. Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan Supporter of crazy ideas "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 15:22:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA13611 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 15:10:40 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA13604 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 15:10:34 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d155.infoserve.net [199.175.157.155]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA15222 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 12:21:47 -0800 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 12:21:47 -0800 Message-Id: <199603172021.MAA15222@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Childhood... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I think that Chance probaly screw up a lot of things in his life, and the >Enforcer maybe his last chance to patch things up. This is pretty good, maybe have Chance running with the wrong crowd (though basically a 'good kat'), and being picked up by the Enforcers rather frequently as a 'bad apple'. Perhaps one day he's picked up by a group of Enforcers for something extra-naughty, his rather extensive past record of petty juvenile delinquency pops up, and they're tempted to throw him in the Kat equivalent of Juvie Hall (that kind of Kiddie Jail). I'm thinking that one Enforcer realizes that Chance isn't a bad kat at all, and gives him the one break he needed to get back on track - and this Enforcer makes a lasting impression on Chance to the point that he wants to be like this person when he "grows up" (nobody having given him a break before, etc.). > You could make him encountering some problems with alchohol in his past life @@@@hh, in fanfic only, you could have one of the nuisance arrests be for 'drinking in a public place' etc, but I think he'd personally be more likely to stare from the sidelines and realize that he isn't really *like* those people he's hanging around with, but gets put in the frame right along with them just because he's "there". You of course wouldn't be able to so much as mention that kind of thing and get it through BS&P as an actual ep - and in any event I can't picture any version of an 'alcohol problem' you might come up with to fall into the 'chronic' category. Maybe more like trying one of your friend's cigarettes and realizing it "wasn't you" is more his speed as regards underage alcohol abuse. >>If only I could pull off what I *really* wanna try writing. Well, >>if people think I should try pulling off this story stunt. >>And what's the idea? I'm too embarassed. I'll tell if I'm asked very nicely, >>but otherwise, it's just gonna become another idea lost somewhere in the >>gray matter of my brain. A silly idea? Like, perhaps as silly as two French-Canadian brothers' idea of a pair of Cat fighter-pilots? Or four humanoid turtles with ninja weapons? Seems that the only difference between a silly idea that croaks on the paper and a good cartoon might be the writer's willingness to share it with others, no? _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 15:48:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA14005 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 15:37:03 -0500 Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA14000 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 15:37:01 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA02034 for kats@bort.mv.net; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 15:38:17 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 15:38:17 -0500 Message-ID: <960317153816_170689327@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Ann Gora's earings. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>How do she wear them anyway? They probably hang down really low from the bottom of her ears, if you can kinda picture that. >>When does she wear them? I haven't been watching for a while. (For shame!) >>When does she wear earings? > >In every episodes that she appears (Well, from what I remember from my memory >anyway. But then again, there's a hole in my mind.). > >>Terra Chang: >>writer and poet >>crazy violinist > >------------------------------------- >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >"A shining beacon, all alone in the night." > >To LtFFeral@aol.com: >Ok, so what happen in March 16? Big OM competition, we won Second Place:)! Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa Anne Probably one of the only people in the world to have a teacher crash their party! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 16:03:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA16380 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 15:52:06 -0500 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com (emout08.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.23]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA16375 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 15:52:03 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA06039 for kats@bort.mv.net; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 15:52:46 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 15:52:46 -0500 Message-ID: <960317155246_248286634@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Terra's Crazy Idea / Characters + Fire + Claudia Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Cool! just like what they did on the Defiant Story List, they write story, >then when the people that write it finish the story, they passed to others >so that the story will continue. > >PROOF!! See people, it *does* work!!! > >>Of course in the Defiant RPG, the one that lead us (The Defiant Crew) is >Captain Bridges, now who is the one that are gonna lead us Kats? > >Details, details . . . Either somebody who knows what they're doing . . . or >maybe I can do it, I'm not sure. > >> > >Careful, we don't want you to do any serious damage to yourself. If you do, >you can't help. > >>Come people, we need more vote on this idea. Should we do it? > >Yeah! YEAH! COme AgrEE wItH tHIS inSanE iDEA!!! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! I AgrEE wItH tHIS inSanE iDEA!!! >>Well Terra, I always follow you when ever you go. > >Oh . . . I feel so appreciated. > > >>>Yeah, so is playing with fire. >> >>I've got five candles in my room, and I lit them almost every night. >whistling> > >He.he.he, I always like playing with fire. "MatchHead Missile, DEPLOYED!" I do hope you're not pyromaniacs. (Ouch! My fingers are burn't!) >>>Claudia who? >> >>Claudia from IwtV. Part of your signature reminds me of a description Louis >>gave after the false death of Lestat. I can explain more later, but this is >>a 'Kats list, not A.R. > >Oh, I thought that you were refering to Claudia Christian. > >>>To LtFFeral@aol.com: >>>Ok, so what happen in March 16? >> >>Yeah, why did you say you think you were gonna faint? (Must've been pretty >big.) > >Let me guess, a gigantic purple ape is coming to your home for a visit, right >Melissa? Well, I'm sorry to say that Ted Turner isn't coming to my house. I sure wish he would though! >>>------------------------------------- >>>Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >>>"A shining beacon, all alone in the night." >> >>Terra Chang: >>writer and poet >>crazy violinist >>SWAT Kats lover >>Anne Rice fan > Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa Anne "...That's all I have to say about that..." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 17:40:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA20526 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 17:23:53 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA20521 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 17:23:51 -0500 Received: from sl1.redding.snowcrest.net (sl1.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.65]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA29951 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 14:38:26 -0800 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 14:38:26 -0800 Message-Id: <199603172238.OAA29951@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: teaser for a tale (name says it all) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 10:12 PM 3/16/96 -0600, you wrote: >Okay, I have an inkling of an idea for a story in the back of my head, and I >want your opinions. Should I finish the whole twisted tale or run away while >I can? Read on and see. Don't have to! If you got something going, finish it! THIS MEANS YOU! > >Terra Chang: Well, don't have to yell at you, Terra, do I? We're the only ones who write stuff for Rat or wherever (any other Kats sites besides Rat and Maxie [or whatever it's called] should be sent here! [or at least to me]). It's so snnoying seeing so much of your own work, that I can tell how much Terra and I feel. Other people have gotta help us, here. If you did one, try another. If you get writer's block I'll sure help you (Terra might too). If you're on Prodigy and can't get it to anyone, E-me at gvvy03 and I'll put it on for you, just do something!! Show you're loyalty! Have your name immortalized forever! And um...... I think I carried this to the extreme! I'll shut up now! (no hard feelings!!!) >writer and poet >crazy violinist >SWAT Kats lover >Anne Rice fan > >"I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. >Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" > Dink..... Kally...... Joker...... Wimp....... You are the ones to beat Giggas (EarthBound on the brain!) _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 18:26:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA24452 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 18:09:12 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA24443 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 18:09:06 -0500 Received: from net-2-066.austin.eden.com (net-4-129.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.129]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id RAA27516 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 17:09:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 17:09:02 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603172309.RAA27516@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: teaser for a tale (name says it all) X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Don't have to! If you got something going, finish it! THIS MEANS YOU! Ack!! Don't use the tiara on me! I'm a good kid! I get staight A's in the honor roll (makes you wonder, doesn't it?) I only get into minor trouble every other day!!! >Well, don't have to yell at you, Terra, do I? no . . . >We're the only ones who write >stuff for Rat or wherever (any other Kats sites besides Rat and Maxie [or >whatever it's called] should be sent here! >[or at least to me]). AHEM . . . . . . me too!!!!!!!!!!! It's so >snnoying seeing so much of your own work, that I can tell how much Terra and >I feel. Other people have gotta help us, here. If you did one, try another. >If you get writer's block I'll sure help you >(Terra might too). Cos' ah will. Y'all just write ta me here. If you don't know my address, for shame, but it's kaychang@eden.com >If you're on >Prodigy and can't get it to anyone, E-me at gvvy03 and I'll put it on for >you, just do something!! Show you're loyalty! Have your name immortalized >forever! And um...... I think I carried this to the extreme! I'll shut up >now! (no hard feelings!!!) Can't say I can do that (I might), but I can read them and give an honest critique. I do it all the time for Courtney! And yeah, as he said, no hard feelings. (I mean, we could always go on strike . . . write stories, but not post them, but give all these little half hints about them . . . >Dink..... > Kally...... (Callie?!) > Joker...... > Wimp....... > > You are the ones to beat Giggas (EarthBound on the brain!) >_______________________________________ >Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley >SWAT Kats Extremist >Good thing you can't see me in person!! >_______________________________________ > > > Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan Supporter of crazy ideas "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 19:39:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA28712 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 19:27:23 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA28707 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 19:27:21 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA17050 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 19:24:52 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 19:22:30 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.03764156.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Children of the Stone (it's up!) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I liked it!! Very good!!! Thanks a lot. I'm glad to see it finally got up for you guys. The sequel is in the works. And, BTW, did you get Lopine from Watership down, >with the Lapines? (Fiver, Hazel, etc.)? Frith-rah was their lord. Did you >get it from Watership Down or not?! Yup. I was kinda wondering when someone was gonna realize it. I posted a 4-part story called The Chomzon Chronicles on the seaQuest club on Prodigy's SCI-FI BB. The whole thing's about 350-400 pages long. Took me a year. Anyway, it's a seaQuest story that involves a Lopinenean race called chomzons (gee, that was hard to tell). I make TONS of Watership Down references throughout the whole thing, and NO ONE picked up on it. Lopine is a religion with origins unknown, but it is believed to have begun with a small cult of rabbits who practiced something called Lapine. From there it got a vowel change spread beyond thousands of specials. Beliefs, customs, and folklore range throughout the crowd. I could seriously write something up on it if you guys want to know more. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 20:29:47 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA02429 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:14:01 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA02421 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:13:58 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.221] (dyn1221a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.221]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA20422 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 08:15:10 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 08:12:15 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Stereo. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >At 11:40 PM 3/17/96 +0700, you wrote: > >>I just downloaded some WAV files from rat.org, I found that the stereo >>files isn't very necesary because the file size is double the size of a >>normal WAV file. > >Actually, unless you are coming off of one of the precorded video tapes, Are the SWAT Kats in stereo? >here's a better reason: >Neither The Cartoon Network or TBS broadcast in stereo. Yeah, I also wonder that too, so I decided to check to the WAV sound file, and to my suprise, I found out that the left sound and right sound were exactly the same! So actually we are hearing mono on two speakers., but the file is stereo. >Max ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 20:35:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA02460 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:14:21 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA02455 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:14:17 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.221] (dyn1221a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.221]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA20461 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 08:15:30 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 08:12:34 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: teaser for a tale (name says it all) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >At 10:12 PM 3/16/96 -0600, you wrote: >>>Okay, I have an inkling of an idea for a story in the back of my head, and I >>want your opinions. Should I finish the whole twisted tale or run away while >>I can? Read on and see. > >Don't have to! If you got something going, finish it! THIS MEANS YOU! He.he.he., ever thinking on writing a cross-over, B-Ko? >>Terra Chang: >_______________________________________ >Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley >SWAT Kats Extremist >Good thing you can't see me in person!! >_______________________________________ ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 20:43:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA02418 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:13:57 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA02410 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:13:52 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.221] (dyn1221a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.221]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA20415 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 08:15:05 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 08:12:09 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Leopold's Dr. Abby "Ms. Exposition!" Sinian Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Terra wrote: >>But I remember >>reading somewhere (I think it was the Animato! article) that "The Deadly >>Pryamid" was really "Abi's" episode. Understand what I just said? chance wrote: >I loved that ep, but one of the things that really *bugs* me about writing, is when >the characters go into a kind of "Mr. Exposition" trance for the benefit of the >audience only. >Leopold did that with "Pyramid" in the person of Dr. Sinian. >Glenn had to introduce the name of the dig, and 'foreshadow' the appearance of that >big nasty that tangled with T-Bone and swatted Razor, and he tried to do it all >at once: > >"Tie everything down or we're going to lose months of work on this Katcchu-Picchu > excavation!" > >Um, yeah. First of all, her co-workers - arthritic and sunburned after 'months of work' >on said dig - would likely be quite familiar the name of the project, Well, there is one magazine reporter that isn't part of her regular co-workers. Besides, it's natural enough for me, maybe some of her co-workers are having a hard time spelling that name, I know that I would. >so their response should collectively have been a 'Molly Metallikat'-ish, "well....duh!". > >Glenn, though a good writer, did that kind of thing on a few other occasions as >well, and in each case it grated just as badly. Still, I guess they have to cram a lot >into 22 minutes, and they aren't exactly paid to do "Citizen Kane". How about if the SWAT Kats series using some sort of a story arc? if 22 minutes is just too small, maybe they should do some sort of episode by episode story telling. ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 20:57:50 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA03471 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:44:12 -0500 Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA03466 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:44:10 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA34172 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:43:30 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 20:41:07 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.03770770.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Edo wrote: >>>Hmmm, Jake and Sinian. Is this the reason why you match them both? >> >>It's probably one of them. I also didn't feel like creating another >>female character when Sinian's all alone. >How about creating a friend for Sinian? I got a good name for that friend, how about "Marsha"? ;) Heh heh. Naaaaah. I all ready got one. His name's Thoran, and if you check out "Children of the Stone" you'll see the relationship start. I develop it A LOT in the sequel. >>And as you'll see in "Children >>of the Stone" and "Vurthuril" (the sequel), >"Vurthuril"??? Most people typically don't understand how things I write get titled until I read them. Don't worry about it. It'll get explained. >>they kind of end up spending >>A LOT of time together 'cause they're always in the museum. >Oh, I see, so they kinda know each other more, right? Yup. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 21:10:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA04948 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:52:10 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA04942 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:52:07 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA33464 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:47:21 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 20:44:59 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.03771160.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Leopold's Dr. Abby "Ms. Exposition!" Sin Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net chance wrote: >I loved that ep, but one of the things that really *bugs* me about writing, is when >the characters go into a kind of "Mr. Exposition" trance for the benefit of the >audience only >Sometimes writers take "short cuts" when they're >too lazy to 'explain' something another way, and the characters end up spouting >unnatural dialogue that would never be spoken character-to-character in a >'real-life' situation Yeah, I REALLY REALLY REALLY don't like that, especially when it's bluntly obvious. Noticed it, too. Oh well. They only had 22 minutes; the whole was rather rushed anyway (though I think cutting out the bus encounter could have cut them some slack). Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 21:18:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA04780 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:48:12 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA04774 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:48:09 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA68890 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:43:51 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 20:41:28 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.03770793.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Dr. Abi Sinian Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Edo wrote: >>>Hmmm, Jake and Sinian. Is this the reason why you match them both? >> >>It's probably one of them. I also didn't feel like creating another >>female character when Sinian's all alone. >How about creating a friend for Sinian? I got a good name for that friend, how about "Marsha"? ;) Heh heh. Naaaaah. I all ready got one. His name's Thoran, and if you check out "Children of the Stone" you'll see the relationship start. I develop it A LOT in the sequel. >>And as you'll see in "Children >>of the Stone" and "Vurthuril" (the sequel), >"Vurthuril"??? Most people typically don't understand how things I write get titled until I read them. Don't worry about it. It'll get explained. >>they kind of end up spending >>A LOT of time together 'cause they're always in the museum. >Oh, I see, so they kinda know each other more, right? Yup. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 17 22:58:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA12662 for kats-ll; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:47:37 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA12653 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:47:32 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.92] (dyn1092a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.92]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27665 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 10:48:38 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 10:45:43 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: My crazy idea . . . Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Of course in the Defiant RPG, the one that lead us (The Defiant Crew) is >>Captain Bridges, now who is the one that are gonna lead us Kats? > >Details, details . . . Either somebody who knows what they're doing . . . or >maybe I can do it, I'm not sure. I recommend that we choose chance, since that he always help a newbie when ever they are in trouble. >> > >Careful, we don't want you to do any serious damage to yourself. If you do, >you can't help. ROTFL >>Well Terra, I always follow you when ever you go. > >Oh . . . I feel so appreciated. > Yeah, who knows? >Terra Chang: >writer and poet >crazy violinist >SWAT Kats lover ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 18 00:35:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA26119 for kats-ll; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 00:27:01 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA26114 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 00:26:58 -0500 Received: from sl5.redding.snowcrest.net (sl5.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.69]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA18338 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 21:41:51 -0800 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 21:41:51 -0800 Message-Id: <199603180541.VAA18338@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: teaser for a tale (name says it all) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Blah, blah, blah, just do [write] something!! Show you're loyalty! Have your name immortalized >>forever! And um...... I think I carried this to the extreme! I'll shut up >>now! (no hard feelings!!!) > >Can't say I can do that (I might), but I can read them and give an honest >critique. I do it all the time for Courtney! And yeah, as he said, no hard >feelings. (I mean, we could always go on strike . . . write stories, but not >post them, but give all these little half hints about them . . . Yeah. I've got freinds who are begging me to print out stuff (that Grand Admiral Thrawn guy) and It's costing me lotz! I don't have to take tome to post my works, here (Last minute resort) > >>Dink..... >> Kally...... (Callie?!) Yes, Kally! I couldn't fit Callie, so I had to go for the next best thing! >> Joker...... >> Wimp....... >> >> You are the ones to beat Giggas (EarthBound on the brain!) _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist who lives in Megakat City Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ "And then I say 'Well duh! the only reason we survived was to take the fate of the world into our hands'" Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 18 00:54:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA26253 for kats-ll; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 00:34:44 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA26248 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 00:34:42 -0500 Received: from sl5.redding.snowcrest.net (sl5.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.69]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA18769 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 21:49:38 -0800 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 21:49:38 -0800 Message-Id: <199603180549.VAA18769@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Children of the Stone (it's up!) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 07:22 PM 3/16/96 EST, you wrote: >>I liked it!! Very good!!! > Ahem. Just very? >Thanks a lot. I'm glad to see it finally got up for you guys. The >sequel >is in the works. > YES! Give it to me when it's finished. >And, BTW, did you get Lopine from Watership down, >>with the Lapines? (Fiver, Hazel, etc.)? Frith-rah was their lord. >Did you >>get it from Watership Down or not?! The Lopineneans ramind me of The Archeivers (pronounced Are chee vers and not Are kiv ers) > >Yup. I was kinda wondering when someone was gonna realize it. >I posted a 4-part story called The Chomzon Chronicles on the >seaQuest >club on Prodigy's SCI-FI BB. The whole thing's about 350-400 pages >long. >Took me a year. Geez! I thought I was good! Rat needs someone like you. Mabye some others besides Terra and me will follow your example. (and yes, extremes are good! [am I taking this to the extreme? Nah.]) _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist who lives in Megakat City Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ "And then I say 'Well duh! the only reason we survived was to take the fate of the world into our hands'" Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 18 06:49:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id GAA15072 for kats-ll; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 06:29:27 -0500 Received: from [164.67.21.99] (ts38-9.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.102]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id GAA15067 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 06:29:18 -0500 X-Sender: rat1@bort.mv.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 03:29:34 -0800 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: Happy Birthday kats! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Well, I know it's early by a few days, but I won't be around to post to the list on its actual birthday (the 20th), so I thought I'd post something briefly now. The Kats list was created on March 20, 1995 and has survived for one year -- longer than even I would have expected it to have. But I'm pleased at the list's success and fairly surprised as to how large a following we've picked up in the past year alone. The listmail and newsgroup traffic plus the growing number of files on the FTP/HTTP site is more than enough proof of that. Here's to a great first year and to an even better second! Cheers! (Now back to your regularly scheduled listmail... -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia "T-Bone, if you drown... I'm gonna kill you!" -- Razor From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 18 10:42:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA01189 for kats-ll; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 10:22:04 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA01176 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 10:21:59 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d147.infoserve.net [199.175.157.147]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA07058 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 07:33:45 -0800 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 07:33:45 -0800 Message-Id: <199603181533.HAA07058@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: teaser for a tale (name says it all) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>Blah, blah, blah, just do [write] something!! Show you're loyalty! Have >your name immortalized >>>forever! And um...... I think I carried this to the extreme! I'll shut up >>>now! (no hard feelings!!!) >> >>Can't say I can do that (I might), but I can read them and give an honest >>critique. I do it all the time for Courtney! And yeah, as he said, no hard >>feelings. (I mean, we could always go on strike . . . write stories, but not >>post them, but give all these little half hints about them . . . > > Yeah. I've got freinds who are begging me to print out stuff >(that Grand Admiral Thrawn guy) and It's costing me lotz! I don't have to >take tome to post my works, here (Last minute resort) Here's where we pause and ask ourselves: "If we saw this page blowing about in the street and stopped to pick it up, would reading it aloud tell us or anyone listening with us that said page originated on a mailing list dedicated to 'Swat Kats'?" ...and the honest injuns among us would be forced to answer "No". and remember, Keep America On-Topic! (retire Gingrich?) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 18 10:56:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA01181 for kats-ll; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 10:22:02 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA01170 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 10:21:56 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d147.infoserve.net [199.175.157.147]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA07055 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 07:33:41 -0800 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 07:33:41 -0800 Message-Id: <199603181533.HAA07055@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Abby's Expositionary dialogue...cont'd Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Well, there is one magazine reporter that isn't part of her regular co-workers. Besides, it's natural enough for me, maybe some of her co-workers are having a hard time spelling that name, I know that I would. Eayh, but the magazine reporter was hardly being asked to drop down on her knees and practise her square-knot, huh? >How about if the SWAT Kats series using some sort of a story arc? > if 22 minutes is just too small, maybe they should do some sort of episode > by episode story telling. I'm sure that was discussed, but most producers of kidvid consider shooting the whole year's run as a continuing saga to be a bad gamble; it plays havoc with reruns and syndicated broadcast, and generally doesn't take into account that much of the audience in the traditional Sat-AM slots has a comparitively short attention span. "Robotech", though a fine show, was also a serial and a commercial failure when originally broadcast. "Exosquad" also used the serial format, but was considered only a moderate success by Universal, and still suffered from the same problems that killed "Robo" (though the anime-crowd will likely give you an argument about the yen in that regard). The best solution seems to be limited multi-ep story arcs a la "Batman: The Animated Series" and "Gargoyles" to permit more complex storylines, but I doubt Tedco figured out that the same audience watching these fairly "adult" series was also watching "SwatKats". Surprise! _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 18 11:43:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA05158 for kats-ll; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 11:00:16 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA05126 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 11:00:11 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d147.infoserve.net [199.175.157.147]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA09446 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 08:11:57 -0800 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 08:11:57 -0800 Message-Id: <199603181611.IAA09446@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Happy Birthday kats! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >The Kats list was created on March 20, 1995 and has survived for one year >-- longer than even I would have expected it to have. But I'm pleased at >the list's success and fairly surprised as to how large a following we've >picked up in the past year alone. The listmail and newsgroup traffic plus >the growing number of files on the FTP/HTTP site is more than enough proof >of that. > >Here's to a great first year and to an even better second! Cheers! > >(Now back to your regularly scheduled listmail... And I'll add that unlike many lists and newsgroups where the readership rolls over during the course of the year, the katslist still has most of the folks it started with. Pretty amazing considering we only have a 24 episode base from which to work from. "Flintstones" by comparison has something like 166, "Animaniacs" about 93, and Lord knows how many for "The Simpsons". One of the things that makes a canceled show 'classic' is the ability of the fans to keep it alive through fanfiction, as anyone can see during those long years where there were no new episodes of "Star Trek", and currently with the still extensive fan following of things like "Dr. Who" and "The Prisoner" - both long since defunct. Way to go, guys! >=================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== > Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia >"T-Bone, if you drown... I'm gonna kill you!" -- Razor ...and something else has remained virtually unchanged since March 20th of last year........Razor's Sig! _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 18 13:36:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA15602 for kats-ll; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:05:08 -0500 Received: from PICA.ARMY.MIL (octavius.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.111]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA15597 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:05:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 96 12:57:13 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Execs seldom focus on the same things we do... Message-ID: <9603181257.aa17176@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Everyone in 1991-93 was trying to come up with the next "Ninja Turtles" without >realizing that it's unlikely a single property will ever again capture that kind of >audience share now that the structure of things is so different from when the TMNT >hit air in 1987. Problem was, Tedco expected TMNT-style licensing returns >without venturing into TMNT-style licensing, and wasn't willing to give the program >the support it needed to return the investment (something 'Garfield's Mark Evanier >calls "deficit-financed"). It's interesting that TedCo put essentially nil into licensing the Kats, but has gone to almost the opposite extreme with JQ, in effect pulling out all the stops. It's obvious that someone learned a lesson, but unfortunately it's too late to save a superior property, the Kats, while something vastly inferior (new JQ) will benefit from the "lesson". Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 18 14:04:48 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA16433 for kats-ll; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:25:00 -0500 Received: from ny.psca.com (spaceghost.ny.psca.com [192.246.114.6]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA16426 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:24:56 -0500 Received: from aquaman. (aquaman [192.246.114.18]) by ny.psca.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA11477 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:21:15 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:21:15 -0500 From: Mitch Botwin Message-Id: <199603181821.NAA11477@ny.psca.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Happy Birthday kats! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Happy Birthday to you Happy Birthday to you Happy Birthday Dear Kats List Happy Birthday to you This is posted early for the same reason the reminder was posted early. Mitch Botwin -------------------------------------- Paradigm (212) 850-8129 Beeper 800-796-7363 pin#1047597 mbotwin@ny.psca.com -------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 18 15:07:25 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA21052 for kats-ll; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 14:33:42 -0500 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA21045 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 14:33:40 -0500 Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with SMTP id OAA21334 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 14:14:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA31920 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 14:13:38 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 14:11:14 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.03817829.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Anyone in Phoenix? (off-topic) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Anyone here in Phoenix, Arizona, or somewhere in the same area code? I'm going on Wednesday and I'd like to call you and meet some people on the kat's list (LOOK! I MENTIONED KATS!). Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 18 16:32:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA28383 for kats-ll; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 15:47:23 -0500 Received: from fw2.turner.com (ilock.turner.com [198.81.230.32]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA28373 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 15:47:20 -0500 From: Marc.Grossmann@turner.com Received: from smap@localhost by fw2.turner.com via smapdV1.3 id PAA10382; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 15:47:14 -0500 Received: from ccmailout.turner.com by interlock.turner.com for via SMTP (smap V1.3) id smaa10333; Mon Mar 18 15:46:57 1996 Received: from ccMail by ccmailout.turner.com (IMA Internet Exchange 1.04b) id 14dcd7a0; Mon, 18 Mar 96 15:54:18 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 12:41:39 -0500 Message-ID: <14dcd7a0@turner.com> Subject: H-B Lives! & Kats Animation Art To: kats@bort.mv.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Please allow me to clear up some things... Hanna-Barbera is NOT changing their name. Hanna-Barbera lives on! They have created a new division within H-B called Cartoon Network Studios. As far as I know (this not definite yet), it will serve as the production company for the new Dexter's Laboratory series as well as the new World Premiere Toons shorts. Every new production that is based on the classic H-B cartoons (Flintstones, Jetsons, Jonny Quest, etc.) will be from Hanna-Barbera Cartoons. Don't ask me where Swat Kats falls in this whole deal because I have no idea. They are NOT changing the name in front of our oh-so-colorful building. ALSO -- Re: Kats Animation Art -- I am in discussion with our Animation Art dept. to see if I can work a special deal on those Kats cels for our list members. Don't get your hopes up, but if something comes up, I'll post again. I will now return to my "lurker" status...Love to all! _______________________________________________________________________________ On 3/15/96 @ 7:46pm chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ One question while we're here. After all the song-and-dance over the Cartoon Network Animation 'name-change' thing, what name is slated to be hung over 3400 Cahuenga Blvd once all the dust settles - CNA or H-B? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 18 16:43:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA29242 for kats-ll; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:09:58 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA29237 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:09:54 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA23658; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:15:20 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:15:19 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Kat Cels In-Reply-To: <199603161929.NAA09940@natashya.eden.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >What happened to "Shadow Of the Red Lynx"? Well, I only have part 1 finished, and I may give it to some one else to write the rest. I'll get part 1 to rat as soon as I can A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 18 17:51:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA05122 for kats-ll; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 17:23:23 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA05117 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 17:23:19 -0500 Received: from net-1-043.austin.eden.com (net-1-043.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.43]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA02779 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:21:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:21:56 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603182221.QAA02779@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Anyone in Phoenix? (off-topic) X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Anyone here in Phoenix, Arizona, or somewhere in the same area >code? I'm going on Wednesday and I'd like to call you and meet some >people on the kat's list (LOOK! I MENTIONED KATS!). > > Dr. Jake Ooooh, sorry D.J., I live in Austin Texas. Don't think I'd like to go to Arizona though--I'm more of a cold-weather type person. (But that would be cool . . . meeting all the people who write crazy ideas, write stories (hint, hint) and so on. Anyone live in Texas ('sides me?) Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan Supporter of crazy ideas "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 18 18:04:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA05185 for kats-ll; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 17:24:35 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA05178 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 17:24:28 -0500 Received: from net-1-043.austin.eden.com (net-1-043.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.43]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA03040 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:24:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:24:18 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603182224.QAA03040@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: H-B Lives! & Kats Animation Art X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Please allow me to clear up some things... > >Hanna-Barbera is NOT changing their name. Hanna-Barbera lives on! > >They have created a new division within H-B called Cartoon Network Studios. As >far as I know (this not definite yet), it will serve as the production company >for the new Dexter's Laboratory series as well as the new World Premiere Toons >shorts. Every new production that is based on the classic H-B cartoons >(Flintstones, Jetsons, Jonny Quest, etc.) will be from Hanna-Barbera Cartoons. > >Don't ask me where Swat Kats falls in this whole deal because I have no idea. > >They are NOT changing the name in front of our oh-so-colorful building. > >ALSO -- Re: Kats Animation Art -- > >I am in discussion with our Animation Art dept. to see if I can work a special >deal on those Kats cels for our list members. Don't get your hopes up, but if >something comes up, I'll post again. > >I will now return to my "lurker" status...Love to all! Whoa . . . all this time, and I didn't know you were here . . . see what lurkers can get away with? They can spring the jump on all the senior members (hey, I joined this group as soon as I knew it exsisted . . . last year in May!!) And you work with Turner?! (Somebody hide the dartboard posts . . .) Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan Supporter of crazy ideas "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 18 18:11:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA08636 for kats-ll; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 17:55:13 -0500 Received: from PICA.ARMY.MIL (octavius.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.111]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA08631 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 17:55:10 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 96 17:50:52 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Cry Turmoil Message-ID: <9603181750.aa17429@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>Why is that T-Bone was choosen to go with Turmoil instead of Feral? and why >>is that Feral was cut out from the final version of "Cry Turmoil"? >> >>'Cause an H-B executive changed it, he said something about it being about >>the SWAT Kats, not Feral, change it to T-Bone. It says that somewhere in the >>Animato! article, under the episode description of "Cry Turmoil." > >Yup, basically right. It was supposed to be a 22-minute script with Feral >*actually* switching sides and only reverting to Mr. Law 'n' Order when >it became evident that Turmoil's plans were doomed, and claiming that >he was just stringing her along the whole time. The writer intended it to be >a statement that Feral could be a bad Kat under the right set of circumstances, and >that a combination of "underappreciation" in MCPD and the opportunity presented >by Turmoil provided those circumstances. I just can't see this at all. Regardless of underappreciation and opportunity, Feral would never switch sides like that. It just goes against his basic character. He might pretend to go along, like T-Bone did, but would never mean it. For those like Feral, "protect and serve" is not just a motto, but a way of life, soething that's an inextricable part of them. It's along the lines of Hudson's comment in the Gargoyles episode "Reawakening": "A Gargoyle can no more stop protecting his home than breathing the air." That's how I read Feral. >The writer was told "the show is about the Kat Guys; don't overdevelop the >supporting cast" and the role was swapped from Feral to T-Bone, and the episode >shrunk to a short. It took a lot of convincing to get Falk to write another script. That's an annoyingly myopic POV. In any well-developed series there are going to be eps that study the character of the supporting players. Maybe not to this degree, but close. To concentrate the show only on our heroes leads to stagnation. Then again, it _is_ TedCo... Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 18 21:28:59 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA23219 for kats-ll; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 21:13:50 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA23214 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 21:13:46 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.113] (dyn1113a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.113]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA22782 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:15:00 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:12:04 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Fanfic stories (was Re: Children of the Stone (it's up!)) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Oh well, since that everybody is now writing a story, I guess that I won't have to send my story to rat.org now. ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 18 21:39:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA23213 for kats-ll; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 21:13:44 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA23207 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 21:13:41 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.113] (dyn1113a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.113]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA22774 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:14:54 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:11:58 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Happy Birthday kats! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Happy Birthday to you >Happy Birthday to you >Happy Birthday Dear Kats List >Happy Birthday to you > >This is posted early for the same reason the reminder was posted >early. Ok, since that the list have already aged one year, I think that we should give us SWAT Kats fans a name, what it will be? >Mitch Botwin ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 18 21:52:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA24210 for kats-ll; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 21:42:03 -0500 Received: from emout05.mail.aol.com (emout05.mail.aol.com [198.81.10.37]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA24203 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 21:42:00 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout05.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA25154 for kats@bort.mv.net; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 21:41:25 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 21:41:25 -0500 Message-ID: <960318214123_171698635@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Anyone in Phoenix? (off-topic) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Anyone here in Phoenix, Arizona, or somewhere in the same area >>code? I'm going on Wednesday and I'd like to call you and meet some >>people on the kat's list (LOOK! I MENTIONED KATS!). >> >> Dr. Jake > >Ooooh, sorry D.J., I live in Austin Texas. Don't think I'd like to go to >Arizona though--I'm more of a cold-weather type person. >(But that would be cool . . . meeting all the people who write crazy ideas, >write stories (hint, hint) and so on. Anyone live in Texas ('sides me?) Ohhh! I feel so left out!:-/ Bein' more than half way across the US, and all (Baltimore, Maryland to be exact). I HATE cold weather! (see news stories 'bout blizzard of '96, and lotsa snow)! Besides that, the capital's right around the corner... Anyone near me? Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa Anne "Let me be a seaker of knowledge, Let me travel uncharted paths, and Let me use my creativity to make the world a better place in which to live." -OM Pledge (written by Samuel Micklus, OM Founder) >Terra Chang: >writer and poet >crazy violinist >SWAT Kats lover >Anne Rice fan >Supporter of crazy ideas From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 18 22:35:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA27031 for kats-ll; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 22:09:10 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA27026 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 22:09:07 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA30504 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 22:04:26 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:02:00 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.03859735.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Fanfic stories (was Re: Children of the Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Edo wrote: >Oh well, since that everybody is now writing a story, I guess that I won't have to send my story to rat.org now. DO IT! I DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONLY ONE WRITING GIANT FANFICTION STORIES (Ryan's excused)! SEND IT SEND SEND IT SEND IT SEND IT SEND IT! Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 18 22:56:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA27545 for kats-ll; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 22:23:47 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA27540 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 22:23:43 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.204] (dyn1204a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.204]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27262 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 10:24:45 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 10:21:57 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Story arc Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>How about if the SWAT Kats series using some sort of a story arc? >>if 22 minutes is just too small, maybe they should do some sort of episode >>by episode story telling. > >I'm sure that was discussed, but most producers of kidvid consider shooting >the whole year's run as a continuing saga to be a bad gamble; it plays hav= oc >with reruns and syndicated broadcast, and generally doesn't take into accou= nt >that much of the audience in the traditional Sat-AM slots has a comparitive= ly >short attention span. "Robotech", though a fine show, was also a serial= and a >commercial failure when originally broadcast. "Exosquad" also used the >serial format, but was considered only a moderate success by Universal, and >still suffered from the same problems that killed "Robo" (though the anime- >crowd will likely give you an argument about the yen in that regard). Well, I'm not talking about a serial kind of story arc, I was talking about= a story arc that where each episode will be able to stand alone, but if the= audiences continue to watch the show, then over time a story written on a= much larger scale will begin to emerge. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 08:36:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA08601 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:13:43 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA08596 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:13:40 -0500 Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.5/merit-2.0) with SMTP id IAA08950 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:13:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa18926; 19 Mar 96 8:16 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <314EDD4A@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Tue, 19 Mar 96 08:14:02 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: Kats list Subject: Re: Stereo WAV, is it necesary? Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 08:13:00 PST Message-ID: <314EDD4A@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 14 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Max wrote: >Actually, unless you are coming off of one of the precorded video tapes, >here's a better reason: >Neither The Cartoon Network or TBS broadcast in stereo. Actually, I think if someone out there has a DSS, TCN & TBS _are_ in stereo. Most local cable providers don't bother broadcasting all their channels in stereo. -Matt From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 09:36:05 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA12756 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:06:51 -0500 Received: from genphysics.com (genphysics.com [206.215.35.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA12750 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:06:48 -0500 Received: from mailgate.genphysics.com (11.2.1.6) by mail.genphysics.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.70) with SMTP id ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:06:08 -0500 Received: by mailgate.genphysics.com with Microsoft Mail id <314EBF46@mailgate.genphysics.com>; Tue, 19 Mar 96 09:05:58 EST From: "Roberts, Steve" To: "'Kats List'" Subject: RE: Anyone in Phoenix? (off-topic) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 09:06:00 EST Message-ID: <314EBF46@mailgate.genphysics.com> Encoding: 30 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>Anyone here in Phoenix, Arizona, or somewhere in the same area >>>code? >>> >>> Dr. Jake >> >>Ooooh, sorry D.J., I live in Austin Texas. Don't think I'd like to go to >>Arizona though--I'm more of a cold-weather type person. >Ohhh! I feel so left out!:-/ Bein' more than half way across the US, and all >(Baltimore, Maryland to be exact). I HATE cold weather! (see news >stories 'bout blizzard of '96, and lotsa snow)! Besides that, the capital's >right around the corner... Anyone near me? >Lt FFeral@aol.com >Melissa Anne Oh Melissa, don't feel so 'left out'. Kat Fans are closer than you might think. For instance, how about Columbia, MD? That practically makes us neighbors. BOS (back on subject), does anyone know what the Tremblay brothers are up to these days (animation wise)? Steve From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 10:19:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA14210 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:41:14 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA14203 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:41:11 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d141.infoserve.net [199.175.157.141]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA14085 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 06:53:40 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 06:53:40 -0800 Message-Id: <199603191453.GAA14085@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Fanfic stories (was Re: Children of the Stone (it's up!)) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Oh well, since that everybody is now writing a story, I guess that I won't have >to send my story to rat.org now. Heh. Send 'em all. You should see all the ones created for "Animaniacs" over the last couple of years... (Just make sure you don't post "Part 1" of a never-to-be-completed multipart Katsaga!) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 10:41:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA17010 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:53:38 -0500 Received: from ny.psca.com (spaceghost.ny.psca.com [192.246.114.6]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA17005 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:53:34 -0500 Received: from aquaman. (aquaman [192.246.114.18]) by ny.psca.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA14822 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:50:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:50:10 -0500 From: Mitch Botwin Message-Id: <199603191450.JAA14822@ny.psca.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Happy Birthday kats! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net ----- Begin Included Message ----- Ok, since that the list have already aged one year, I think that we should give us SWAT Kats fans a name, what it will be? >Mitch Botwin ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." ----- End Included Message ----- Katsters Kat_fans Kat_Masters Kat_a_logers Here a four for a start Mitch Botwin -------------------------------------- Paradigm (212) 850-8129 Beeper 800-796-7363 pin#1047597 mbotwin@ny.psca.com -------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 10:47:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA19586 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 10:05:57 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA19581 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 10:05:54 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d141.infoserve.net [199.175.157.141]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA14914 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 07:18:24 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 07:18:24 -0800 Message-Id: <199603191518.HAA14914@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: RE: Anyone in Phoenix? (off-topic) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >BOS (back on subject), does anyone know what the Tremblay brothers are up >to these days (animation wise)? I haven't talked to them since Christmas, but they're still slogging away at Film Roman. At the moment they're split amongst various projects; an animated "cute" kinda thing, an animated ac/adv thing, and a live-action project with no further details provided. I think they miss the Kats. (They always get me to say "Bonjour!" to the Katfans the minute I hang up...) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 10:55:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA17165 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:57:17 -0500 Received: from ny.psca.com (spaceghost.ny.psca.com [192.246.114.6]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA17157 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:57:13 -0500 Received: from aquaman. (aquaman [192.246.114.18]) by ny.psca.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA14835 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:53:43 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:53:43 -0500 From: Mitch Botwin Message-Id: <199603191453.JAA14835@ny.psca.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: RE: Anyone in Phoenix? (off-topic) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net ----- Begin Included Message ----- >>>Anyone here in Phoenix, Arizona, or somewhere in the same area >>>code? >>> >>> Dr. Jake >> >>Ooooh, sorry D.J., I live in Austin Texas. Don't think I'd like to go to >>Arizona though--I'm more of a cold-weather type person. >Ohhh! I feel so left out!:-/ Bein' more than half way across the US, and all >(Baltimore, Maryland to be exact). I HATE cold weather! (see news >stories 'bout blizzard of '96, and lotsa snow)! Besides that, the capital's >right around the corner... Anyone near me? >Lt FFeral@aol.com >Melissa Anne Oh Melissa, don't feel so 'left out'. Kat Fans are closer than you might think. For instance, how about Columbia, MD? That practically makes us neighbors. BOS (back on subject), does anyone know what the Tremblay brothers are up to these days (animation wise)? Steve ----- End Included Message ----- There are fans in NY which is not very far from Baltimore. The first weekend in April is Balticon. The Baltimore area Kat fans could arrange to meet there. Just a thought. .signatureMitch Botwin -------------------------------------- Paradigm (212) 850-8129 Beeper 800-796-7363 pin#1047597 mbotwin@ny.psca.com -------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 11:05:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA17198 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:57:45 -0500 Received: from genphysics.com (genphysics.com [206.215.35.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA17193 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:57:42 -0500 Received: from mailgate.genphysics.com (11.2.1.6) by mail.genphysics.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.70) with SMTP id ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:57:40 -0500 Received: by mailgate.genphysics.com with Microsoft Mail id <314ECB59@mailgate.genphysics.com>; Tue, 19 Mar 96 09:57:29 EST From: "Roberts, Steve" To: "'Kats List'" , wkoziol Subject: RE: SwatKats Fan Club Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 09:57:00 EST Message-ID: <314ECB59@mailgate.genphysics.com> Encoding: 55 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net A while ago, you wrote. . . >.. . .Right now I am looking for ways to be able to have club type >activities and other stuff as well. This is where >you the fans come in cause I need all the help I can get. (Come to >think of it I'm beyond help but that's besides the >point.) The club is now free to join, but if there are going to be >club activities going on then I'm going to ask for a >small fee to be able to do it. (IE Mailings, Newsletters, Misc, etc..) >I got the system to do this stuff but for mass >printing I don't have the means and I would have to go to the lowest >price printing place. If there is money left over I >will use the money to get Swat Kats merchandise (If I can find any) and >hold a raffle for it. I will not be looking for >ways to make a profit on this and I am intent on making this a >non-profit club. I would like this to be one of the best >clubs thats out there. If we work together and pull our resources >together then I know this club can fly high. Also, if >you have any special talents or you can write let me know and we could >start working on a newsletter even if its going >to be electronic. >Walter P. Koziol, Jr. (Pres, Vice Pres, Sec, Treasurer, >Editor-in-Charge, etc..) >email address wkoziol@ix.netcom.com >PS >HHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >I got to many titles and I need someone to take some of these titles >off of me as soon as possible. Thanks!!! :) Hi Walt, Sorry it took so long to get back to you, but, you know how all that goes. If there's anything I can do to help, with what time I do have, I would be more than happy to do so. It would be nice to see the fan club really take flight. Especially now, while we all sit patiently awaiting the return of the Kat Guys to a week broadcast schedule (with all new Katseps (a guy can hope)). Just let me know what I can do. BTW-I'm sending this reply to the KatsList as well. Prohaps there are some KatFolks out there that might like to help. Steve roberts@columbia.genphysics.com From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 11:59:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA24760 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 11:22:42 -0500 Received: from genphysics.com (genphysics.com [206.215.35.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA24755 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 11:22:35 -0500 Received: from mailgate.genphysics.com (11.2.1.6) by mail.genphysics.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.70) with SMTP id ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 11:22:33 -0500 Received: by mailgate.genphysics.com with Microsoft Mail id <314EDF3E@mailgate.genphysics.com>; Tue, 19 Mar 96 11:22:22 EST From: "Roberts, Steve" To: "'Kats List'" Subject: RE: Anyone in Phoenix? (off-topic) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 11:22:00 EST Message-ID: <314EDF3E@mailgate.genphysics.com> Encoding: 13 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >There are fans in NY which is not very far from Baltimore. The first >weekend in April is Balticon. The Baltimore area Kat fans could arrange >to meet there. >Mitch Botwin Great idea, but. . .what's a 'Balticon?' Steve From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 12:30:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA28479 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 11:58:43 -0500 Received: from ny.psca.com (spaceghost.ny.psca.com [192.246.114.6]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA28469 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 11:58:39 -0500 Received: from aquaman. (aquaman [192.246.114.18]) by ny.psca.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA15357 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 11:55:13 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 11:55:13 -0500 From: Mitch Botwin Message-Id: <199603191655.LAA15357@ny.psca.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: What time are the kats on TV Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net My cable system has been upgraded so we receive alot more on what channels and times are the Kats on? Mitch Botwin -------------------------------------- Paradigm (212) 850-8129 Beeper 800-796-7363 pin#1047597 mbotwin@ny.psca.com -------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 12:47:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA29864 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 12:30:46 -0500 Received: from genphysics.com (genphysics.com [206.215.35.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA29857 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 12:30:42 -0500 Received: from mailgate.genphysics.com (11.2.1.6) by mail.genphysics.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.70) with SMTP id ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 12:30:39 -0500 Received: by mailgate.genphysics.com with Microsoft Mail id <314EEF33@mailgate.genphysics.com>; Tue, 19 Mar 96 12:30:27 EST From: "Roberts, Steve" To: "'Kats List'" Subject: RE: Happy Birthday kats! Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 12:30:00 EST Message-ID: <314EEF33@mailgate.genphysics.com> Encoding: 12 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Ok, since that the list have already aged one year, I think that we should >give us SWAT Kats fans a name, what it will be? >Edo How about a name for the Fan List, say. . ."The Katalyst?" Hmm, 1 year huh. What's that in Kat years? Steve From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 13:21:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA03395 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 12:56:29 -0500 Received: from ny.psca.com (spaceghost.ny.psca.com [192.246.114.6]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA03390 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 12:56:26 -0500 Received: from aquaman. (aquaman [192.246.114.18]) by ny.psca.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA15558 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 12:52:55 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 12:52:55 -0500 From: Mitch Botwin Message-Id: <199603191752.MAA15558@ny.psca.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: RE: Anyone in Phoenix? (off-topic) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Balticon is the Baltimore Science Fiction Society (BSFS) annual gatering. It takes place at the Omni International 4/5 - 4/7. Mitch From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 13:30:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA04057 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 13:08:54 -0500 Received: from genphysics.com (genphysics.com [206.215.35.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA04052 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 13:08:51 -0500 Received: from mailgate.genphysics.com (11.2.1.6) by mail.genphysics.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.70) with SMTP id ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 13:08:49 -0500 Received: by mailgate.genphysics.com with Microsoft Mail id <314EF825@mailgate.genphysics.com>; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:08:37 EST From: "Roberts, Steve" To: "'Kats List'" Subject: RE: What time are the kats on TV Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:09:00 EST Message-ID: <314EF825@mailgate.genphysics.com> Encoding: 12 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >My cable system has been upgraded so we receive alot more >on what channels and times are the Kats on? >Mitch Botwin Hi Mitch, Try The Cartoon Network on Saturdays at 2:00pm -Eastern Steve From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 15:48:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA14171 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:21:02 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA14164 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:20:58 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.164] (dyn1164a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.164]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA13958 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 03:22:09 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 03:19:16 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: A name for SWAT Kats fans Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Edo wrote: >Ok, since that the list have already aged one year, I think that we should give us SWAT Kats fans a name, what it >will be? Mitch wrote: >Katsters >Kat_fans >Kat_Masters >Kat_a_logers > >Here a four for a start How about "Kats"? I think that is a good one. >Mitch Botwin ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 16:09:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA15020 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:41:21 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA15013 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:41:17 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.164] (dyn1164a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.164]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA14425 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 03:42:23 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 03:39:36 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Anyone in Phoenix? (off-topic) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Balticon is the Baltimore Science Fiction Society (BSFS) >annual gatering. It takes place at the Omni International 4/5 - 4/7. Is too bad that the SWAT Kats IRC project has failed, we could chat a lot of "off the topic" discussion there. >Mitch ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 17:51:48 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA23445 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 17:13:18 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA23440 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 17:13:15 -0500 Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.5/merit-2.0) with SMTP id RAA25489 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 17:13:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa20242; 19 Mar 96 17:16 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <314F5BCC@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Tue, 19 Mar 96 17:13:48 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: Kats list Subject: Re: Happy Birthday kats! Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 17:11:00 PST Message-ID: <314F5BCC@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 33 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>The Kats list was created on March 20, 1995 and has survived for one year >>-- longer than even I would have expected it to have. But I'm pleased at >>the list's success and fairly surprised as to how large a following we've >Pretty amazing considering we only have a 24 episode base from which to work Heh. Frankly, I don't think I've ever seen more dedicated fans (of a cancelled show) anywhere on the net! I remember when the Kats were canned, and although there was not an overwhelming amount of posting to groups like rec.arts.animation, some very impressive things were said. Usually posts about "What the heck's going on with Ted?!" led to discussion of why it was happening, who was responsible, what we can do, etc. (Were any of those questions ever really answered?) Although there weren't many posts, many had long threads and IMO won over more fans who hadn't ever heard of it. (Ever hear of advertising, Ted?) Now there's even a newsgroup specifically for Kats! If you look at the file size of the archives of this list, you'll get a good idea of how it's grown over the past year. Not only with the amount of messages, but the number of list members--many of which are lurkers (you know who you are!) In fact just over this past weekend, I got almost 70 messages in my mailbox! Can you imagine how many that would be if all the lurkers were posting too?! Even with the Kats being canned and only 24 eps. to work with, we've put out a ton of files (which I'm sure Paul can confirm). Even with a limited amount of merchandise in limited areas, we've shipped stuff all over the US & Canada for each other. I think everyone deserves a pat on the back for all the effort that's been put into everything! Happy Birthday! -Matt From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 17:52:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA23644 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 17:17:11 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA23637 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 17:17:09 -0500 Received: from net-2-090.austin.eden.com (net-2-090.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.90]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA02225 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:16:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:16:51 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603192216.QAA02225@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Fanfic stories (was Re: Children of the Stone (it's up!)) X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Oh well, since that everybody is now writing a story, I guess that I won't have to send my story to rat.org now. ACK!!!! NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO!!!!!!!! Send it, please!! (If not, I mean it, I'll go on strike! And I've got a really cool story started . . . not to mention I'm gonna try copying a story from paper again . . .) Send it! send it! SENDITSENDITSENDITSENDITSENDITSENDITSENDITSENDITSENDITSENDITSENDITSNEITSHERISNF (Sorry, kinda got carried away . . . ) Send it! Pretty pretty please with a cherry on top and sugar (sugar!!) and all that really nice junk? Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan Supporter of crazy ideas "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 18:11:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA24960 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 17:45:08 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (mail.santonio.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA24940 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 17:44:52 -0500 Received: from net-2-090.austin.eden.com (net-2-090.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.90]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA04594 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:44:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:44:13 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603192244.QAA04594@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: RE: Happy Birthday kats! X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >How about a name for the Fan List, say. . ."The Katalyst?" Eyeah . . . do you even know the real definition of catalyst? It means "something that brings about change." (I wish! I wish we could change Turner's mind about the cancellation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) >Hmm, 1 year huh. What's that in Kat years? 7. My lucky number. >Steve Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan Supporter of crazy ideas "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 18:21:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA26085 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 17:47:14 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA26069 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 17:47:06 -0500 Received: from net-2-090.austin.eden.com (net-2-090.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.90]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA04883 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:47:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:47:00 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603192247.QAA04883@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: A name for SWAT Kats fans X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >How about "Kats"? I think that is a good one. That's what I call myself at times . . . (example: in the A.R. list we were discussing different writers from the a.b.a.r. "Twilight" mentioned something, and in my reply I wrote: 'this little kat agrees wit'ya.') I like that name best. Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan Supporter of crazy ideas "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 18:25:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA24754 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 17:43:44 -0500 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA24749 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 17:43:43 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with ESMTP id RAA25624 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 17:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from net-2-090.austin.eden.com (net-2-090.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.90]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA04382 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:42:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:42:14 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603192242.QAA04382@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: RE: SwatKats Fan Club X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Just let me know what I can do. > >BTW-I'm sending this reply to the KatsList as well. Prohaps there are >some KatFolks out there that might like to help. Oh! I can help . . . summer vacation will soon be exsistant, and I will have lotsa free time. Walt!! 'Member me? Ahhhhhhh!! Where were you? Why didn't ja write? (Okay, I'll calm down now . . .) I can help . . . and I'm pretty reliable. I will do whatever I can to help. Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan Supporter of crazy ideas "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 19:35:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA02572 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:04:48 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA02567 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:04:44 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.209] (dyn1209a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.209]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA20430 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 07:05:53 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 07:03:03 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: The vortex scene on "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice". Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Is it a standard animation or a computer animation? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 19:51:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA03458 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:30:02 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA03429 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:29:58 -0500 Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA01118 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:31:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:31:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199603200031.TAA01118@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@underdog.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: A name for SWAT Kats fans Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 03:19 AM 3/20/96 +0700, you wrote: >How about "Kats"? I think that is a good one. A very good choice, and the one I use consistantly on my web site to refer to visitors. :-) Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 19:58:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA02619 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:05:46 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA02606 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:05:43 -0500 Received: from bossrkf7.bossnt.com (bossrkf7.bossnt.com [198.150.207.47]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA01032 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:07:12 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:07:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199603200007.TAA01032@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: peej@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Peejster Subject: RE: SwatKats Fan Club Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 04:42 PM 3/19/96 -0600, you wrote: >>Just let me know what I can do. >> >>BTW-I'm sending this reply to the KatsList as well. Prohaps there are >>some KatFolks out there that might like to help. > >Oh! I can help . . . summer vacation will soon be exsistant, and I will have >lotsa free time. >Walt!! 'Member me? Ahhhhhhh!! Where were you? Why didn't ja write? (Okay, >I'll calm down now . . .) >I can help . . . and I'm pretty reliable. I will do whatever I can to help. > > >Terra Chang: >writer and poet >crazy violinist >SWAT Kats lover >Anne Rice fan >Supporter of crazy ideas > >"I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. >Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" > I think a Swat Kats fan club is a great idea!! :-) Let me know how I may help. Peej From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 21:33:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA11514 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 21:09:02 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA11507 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 21:08:45 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d150.infoserve.net [199.175.157.150]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA21042 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 18:21:27 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 18:21:27 -0800 Message-Id: <199603200221.SAA21042@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Heh. Rat bounced a message to the list... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 18:31:05 -0500 (EST) From: Ratman To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Anyone in Phoenix? (off-topic) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 20 Mar 1996, Edo Andromedo wrote: > >Balticon is the Baltimore Science Fiction Society (BSFS) > >annual gatering. It takes place at the Omni International 4/5 - 4/7. > > Is too bad that the SWAT Kats IRC project has failed, we could chat a > lot of "off the topic" discussion there. Only my attempt at it did. I think if someone made an effort to organize it, it could happen. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 19 21:37:29 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA11681 for kats-ll; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 21:12:02 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA11676 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 21:11:59 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA66292 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 20:49:44 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 20:47:13 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.03938303.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: SK Drinking Game Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I'm going to Phoenix from Wednesday until Sunday, so here's a nice little present before I go (as if Children of the Stone wasn't big enough): THE SWAT KATS DRINKING GAME! (taken from the Gargoyles Drinking Game on the WWW fanfic archive) 1. Get an ample supply of your favorite drink. 2. Gulp every time the show meets this criteria: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- 1. Drink once if Cally mentions the SWAT Kats around Jake and Chance. Drink Twice if Cally mentions Jake and Chance around the SWAT Kats. 2. Drink once if the SKs/Jake and Chance call each other by the wrong aliases. (ex: TB calling Razor Jake while in flight suit). Drink twice if it's not in the hanger or the garage. 3. Drink once if one of the kats makes a REALLY, REALLY lame joke. Drink twice if a pun or proverb is involved. 4. Drink once if Feral says, "Bring me chopper backup!" Drink twice if he isn't in a chopper at the time. Drink three times if he's in a chopper, but hasn't crashed yet. 5. Drink once if the SWAT Kats dis Feral. Drink twice if he isn't there. Drink three times if Jake and Chance dis Feral. 6. Drink once if Dr. Sinian is in the episode. 7. Drink once if Felina imitates her uncle. 8. Drink once if Felina disobeys her uncle. 9. Drink once if Feral lets Felina go anyway. Drink twice if he feels bad about it. Drink three times if he mentions it out loud. 10. Drink once every time Ann Gora interrupts a show for a news flash. Drink twice if Ann Gora reports on ANYTHING that isn't a news flash. Drink three times if the report doesn't even involve someone attacking anyone, or the SWAT Kats. 11. Drink once if Charlie Adler (T-Bone, Murry, Zed) plays more than one guy in an episode. Drink twice if it's in the same scene. Drink three times if he has one-on-one dialogue with himself. 12. Drink once if Razor gets whiny and sounds like Donetello. Drink twice if it's for pretty much the whole episode. 13. Drink once if Mac and Molly bicker. Drink twice if they revert to name-calling. 14. Drink once if Molly makes a comment of Mac's driving. 15. Drink once if Professor Hackle acts senile. Drink twice if it's cute. 16. Drink once if we get to see Jake and Chance doing something related to their business. Drink twice if it gets in the way of being SKs. 17. Drink once if Cally acts cute and sounds like Babs. 18. Drink once if Dr. Viper hisses. Drinkk twice if it's in a word that doesn't REALLY have an "s" in it. 19. Drink once if Feral curses the SWAT Kats. Drink twice if he curses Jake and Chance the same way. 20. Drink once if Mayor Manx's hairpiece moves. Drink twice if he has to pick it up. Drink three times if someone picks it up for him. 21. Drink once of the SKs battle a monster we could all really care less about. 22. Drink once if AGAIN you notice the similarities between "Caverns of Horror" and "Ci-kat-ta" episodes. 23. Drink once if the episode involved a childish fear (or fault) T-Bone must overcome. 24. Drink once if Razor makes and comments on an update to their jet. Drink twice if it JUST HAPPENS to come in handy for that particular episode. 25. Drink once if Razor fights the bad guys in a building or something while T-Bone hangs out in the Turbokat. 26. Drink once if ANYONE in the city handles ANY problem by themselves, without the help of the SKs. 27. Drink once if you noticed that calender still on July. 28. Drink once if the Turbokat does some rediculious stunt. Drink twice if it goes against the laws of nature, gravity, and/or space. Hope that's enough to occupy you guys still I get back! BTW, Vurthuril (Children's sequel) is really coming along great. I think it's a bit better than the first. I hope you guys do to. Unfortunately, on Monday I return to school and G-d knows when I'll find time to finish it (don't worry. It'll be in the next month or so). SEE YA!!! Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 20 00:53:29 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA01181 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 00:44:03 -0500 Received: from ix16.ix.netcom.com (ix16.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.16]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA01176 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 00:43:58 -0500 Received: from Miles' World by ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id VAA04630; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 21:43:23 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 21:43:23 -0800 Message-Id: <199603200543.VAA04630@ix16.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: danramos@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Dan Ramos Subject: Re: Stereo WAV, is it necesary? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 11:40 PM 3/17/96 +0700, you wrote: > >I just downloaded some WAV files from rat.org, I found that the stereo files isn't very necesary because the file size is double the size of a normal WAV file (If we want hear the SWAT Kats theme song in stereo, I suggest that we use a stereo MOD file instead of a stereo WAV file.). > A mod, huh? :P heheh Makes almost as much as sense telling us to stick to a MIDI with SoundFont banks instead of using a WAV file. :P If someone would care to take the time to compose a MOD, that'd be nice--but it certainly wouldn't make me NOT want a stereo WAV file of the ACTUAL theme song. A MOD file is a sequenced music file format... a WAV file is an actual digital sound file--nothing is sequenced. Personally, I'd LOVE to have a MOD file of the theme, but I certainly wouldn't toss the WAV either--they'll be different. As for stereo.. for small sound samples, it's not necessary--no... but on the theme song--you better BELIEVE I wanna hear it in stereo... pile on those bytes..I want that theme to sound GOOD! -Dan Ramos Miles @ Furry/FurTooniaMUCKs From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 20 01:51:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA05652 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 01:46:17 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA05645 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 01:46:13 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.208] (dyn1208a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.208]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04562 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 13:47:27 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 13:44:31 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Happy Birthday kats! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>How about a name for the Fan List, say. . ."The Katalyst?" > >Eyeah . . . do you even know the real definition of catalyst? It means >"something that brings about change." (I wish! I wish we could change >Turner's mind about the cancellation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Well, I think that the mission of this list is to bring a change, to give us Kats a hope that someday maybe the SWAT kats series can go more than 24 episodes. >>Hmm, 1 year huh. What's that in Kat years? > >7. My lucky number. Well, I always think that 24 is my lucky number, but I don't think that is the right answer either. >>Steve > >Terra Chang: ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 20 01:56:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA05662 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 01:46:21 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA05651 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 01:46:16 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.208] (dyn1208a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.208]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04567 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 13:47:30 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 13:44:35 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: No swimming lesson? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net The Enforcer doesn't give swimming lesson? We surely know that Chance certainly didn't get one (ref. "Mutation City"). From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 20 07:50:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id HAA24063 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 07:38:36 -0500 Received: from genphysics.com (genphysics.com [206.215.35.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA24058 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 07:38:32 -0500 Received: from mailgate.genphysics.com (11.2.1.6) by mail.genphysics.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.70) with SMTP id ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 07:38:30 -0500 Received: by mailgate.genphysics.com with Microsoft Mail id <314FFC3D@mailgate.genphysics.com>; Wed, 20 Mar 96 07:38:21 EST From: "Roberts, Steve" To: "'Kats List'" Subject: RE: Happy Birthday kats! Date: Wed, 20 Mar 96 07:38:00 EST Message-ID: <314FFC3D@mailgate.genphysics.com> Encoding: 14 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>How about a name for the Fan List, say. . ."The Katalyst?" >Eyeah . . . do you even know the real definition of catalyst? It means >"something that brings about change." (I wish! I wish we could change >Turner's mind about the cancellation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) >Terra Chang: Heh, now we're thinking! Steve From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 20 09:06:47 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA00950 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 09:01:42 -0500 Received: from genphysics.com (genphysics.com [206.215.35.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA00936 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 09:01:28 -0500 Received: from mailgate.genphysics.com (11.2.1.6) by mail.genphysics.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.70) with SMTP id ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 09:01:26 -0500 Received: by mailgate.genphysics.com with Microsoft Mail id <31500FAC@mailgate.genphysics.com>; Wed, 20 Mar 96 09:01:16 EST From: "Roberts, Steve" To: "'Kats List'" Subject: Birthday Surprise for Tedco Date: Wed, 20 Mar 96 09:01:00 EST Message-ID: <31500FAC@mailgate.genphysics.com> Encoding: 23 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Heh, Idea. . .. In commemoration of the "Katalyst's" first year, let's all, "lurkers" included, send a big "Happy B-day to Kats" message to H-B, TCN and Tedco. Since we're such a large, austere body, if everyone sends a messsage, prohaps we can get the suits residing in Tedco's mahogany row to sit up and take notice. Then, . . .we can flood their fax machines with a barrage of "Heh, we're Kats and we're still out here" messages. I know I would be impressed, but then again, it doesn't take much. Well, there's the idea. I guess the next thing is to have E-mail addresses and fax numbers.. . .huh, anybody got any??? H-B's fax is (213) 969-1201 TCN's E-mail address is toonnet@aol.com This is from the swatkats.faq@rat.org, but that's all I have. Dana, can you help? BTW- Happy Birthday Kats. Steve From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 20 09:40:50 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA01802 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 09:21:43 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA01797 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 09:21:41 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA19680; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 08:21:35 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603201421.AA19680@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: OK, I'm back! To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 08:21:35 -0600 (CST) Cc: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) In-Reply-To: <199603192244.QAA04594@natashya.eden.com> from "Kay Chang" at Mar 19, 96 04:44:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2195 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hello! Long time readers/subscribers of this list may remember me as a SWAT Kats fan and then newbie (Though in all the ways that count I still am one.) who would loyally read and occasionally post to the list. The list regulars patiently tolerated my on-line mumbles and manic ranting and raving up until the day I had to leave for the summer, at which point they must have all cheered my departure. I asked for a few snail mail addresses, thanked those who were gracious enough to provide them, and then mysteriously never returned even after I got back on line. I fear I had became a Kats lurker (Horrors!) After a lengthy spell of procrastination I began to feel that I couldn't just come back out of the blue, I had to make an event out of it or somehow compensate my prolonged absence (Weird idea, I know.) I have done something similar that I'd been meaning to do for awhile; In the past several weeks a little under 50 new images have appeared at rat.org, and I'm the one who scanned and FTPed 'em. I won't go on about the difficulties I had scanning the stuff and tolerating the problems this server kept throwing at me, or will I tell of all the harassment I gave Ratman (At least not yet.) The important thing is that the images are there (Though they could use some gamma correction.) and I *am* back. And what better time to come back to the list than today, the list's birthday? Think of it as a gag gift. I was cosidering throwing out all sorts of topics for discussion in this post, but then I decided to instead kept it short and sweet and leave the discussion in other posts. I've read almost all of the posts made since I left, with a few holes in various places, and I've got a lot of things, old topics mainly, to ask about and comment on, but for now I'll keep them seperate as well, save one: Could someone please tell me who this Olga Person is? |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 20 10:46:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA07632 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 10:29:09 -0500 Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA07627 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 10:29:06 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA07708 for kats@bort.mv.net; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 10:28:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 10:28:35 -0500 Message-ID: <960320102834_450775777@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Birthday Surprise for Tedco/Re:What's up with dogs? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Heh, Idea. . .. >In commemoration of the "Katalyst's" first year, let's all, "lurkers" >included, send a big "Happy B-day to Kats" message to H-B, TCN and >Tedco. Since we're such a large, austere body, if everyone sends a >messsage, prohaps we can get the suits residing in Tedco's mahogany row >to sit up and take notice. Then, . . .we can flood their fax machines >with a barrage of "Heh, we're Kats and we're still out here" messages. I >know I would be impressed, but then again, it doesn't take much. How 'bout we all send our 'signatures' to someone, and they can send one big letter? And a bunch of personal letters. I would be impressed with 70 signatures in one letter and with 70 different letters from different people. If no one else wants to collect signatures, I will. (Of course, we have to agree on it first, and if no one wants to do my idea, I'll still go along with Steve's.) >Well, there's the idea. I guess the next thing is to have E-mail >addresses and fax numbers.. . .huh, anybody got any??? > >H-B's fax is (213) 969-1201 >TCN's E-mail address is toonnet@aol.com TCN said that TBS's address is richard.turner@turner.com Oh, here's the latest letter I recieved from ToonNet: Well, how happy of a Cartoon Network viewer are you? So happy that you can let us slide here...? Oh, we triiiiied to find out what the deal with SWAT Kats is. Goodness knows we tried! All of our information tells us that the same episodes aired, intact, on TBS and Cartoon Network. But apparently you've seen something we haven't. I can't get any more information from my end, Melissa. But you can try to e-mail TBS if you want. I don't know if it will do any good, though. Can't hurt, though! The address is: richard.turner@turner.com Thanks for your understanding! --Scott Miller Cartoon Network Online Representative Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa Anne Let's kick some tadpole tail!! And some froggy butt!!!!! (Don't ask!) >Steve From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 20 13:05:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA18040 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 12:42:45 -0500 Received: from genphysics.com (genphysics.com [206.215.35.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA18034 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 12:42:40 -0500 Received: from mailgate.genphysics.com (11.2.1.6) by mail.genphysics.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.70) with SMTP id ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 12:42:37 -0500 Received: by mailgate.genphysics.com with Microsoft Mail id <31504381@mailgate.genphysics.com>; Wed, 20 Mar 96 12:42:25 EST From: "Roberts, Steve" To: "'Kats List'" Subject: Who's Party is this anyway? Date: Wed, 20 Mar 96 12:42:00 EST Message-ID: <31504381@mailgate.genphysics.com> Encoding: 5 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Kinda quiet on the Kat front today. Are we celebrating a Birthday or mourning the loss of a favorite gerbil??? Somebody pass me that bottle of Chateau Le KatsFeet and let's party! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 20 16:25:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA04682 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 15:50:34 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA04675 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 15:50:25 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA04224; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 15:55:26 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 15:55:26 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: anime callie Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Ok, you all asked for it, I have found an anime callie with big eyes, etc. in "Mutation City" Where she is jumping anound on the cars above the muck. Looks like mook made a boo-boo! A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 20 18:10:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA11328 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 17:31:58 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA11310 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 17:31:42 -0500 Received: from net-4-147.austin.eden.com (net-4-147.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.147]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA23517 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 16:31:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 16:31:23 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603202231.QAA23517@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: OK, I'm back! X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Hello! > > Long time readers/subscribers of this list may remember me as a SWAT Kats >fan and then newbie (Though in all the ways that count I still am one.) who >would loyally read and occasionally post to the list. The list regulars >patiently tolerated my on-line mumbles and manic ranting and raving up until >the day I had to leave for the summer, at which point they must have all >cheered my departure. I asked for a few snail mail addresses, thanked those >who were gracious enough to provide them, and then mysteriously never returned >even after I got back on line. I fear I had became a Kats lurker (Horrors!) >After a lengthy spell of procrastination I began to feel that I couldn't just >come back out of the blue, I had to make an event out of it or somehow >compensate my prolonged absence (Weird idea, I know.) I have done something >similar that I'd been meaning to do for awhile; In the past several weeks a >little under 50 new images have appeared at rat.org, and I'm the one who >scanned and FTPed 'em. I won't go on about the difficulties I had scanning the >stuff and tolerating the problems this server kept throwing at me, or will I >tell of all the harassment I gave Ratman (At least not yet.) The important >thing is that the images are there (Though they could use some gamma >correction.) and I *am* back. And what better time to come back to the list >than today, the list's birthday? Think of it as a gag gift. Ummm, okay. Welcome back!! This little 'kat gives ya a big high-five for coming back to us!! > I was cosidering throwing out all sorts of topics for discussion in this >post, but then I decided to instead kept it short and sweet and leave the >discussion in other posts. I've read almost all of the posts made since I >left, with a few holes in various places, and I've got a lot of things, old >topics mainly, to ask about and comment on, Fine with me. I don't mind. (Heck, I've saved nearly every message I got from this list since I subsribed.) > Could someone please tell me who this Olga Person is? Sorry sir. I do not understand the question. > |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| > | | | | > \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / > \/ \/ Cool sig. I like the kats heads. (They *are* kats head, aren't they?) Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan Supporter of crazy ideas "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 20 18:16:52 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA11563 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 17:36:13 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA11502 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 17:34:48 -0500 Received: from net-4-147.austin.eden.com (net-4-147.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.147]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA23830 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 16:34:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 16:34:31 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603202234.QAA23830@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Who's Party is this anyway? X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >Kinda quiet on the Kat front today. Are we celebrating a Birthday or >mourning the loss of a favorite gerbil??? > >Somebody pass me that bottle of Chateau Le KatsFeet and let's party! Oooooo. Are we all invited? I don't have any pets. My parents won't let me get one. I wanna get a cat! Two of 'em! (And guess what I'd name them . . .) Oh yeah, and speaking of pets, Courtney got two new fish over spring break. A goldfish and an orange angel fish. They were offically named Jake and Chance. Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan Supporter of crazy ideas "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 20 19:20:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA18825 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 18:52:53 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA18820 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 18:52:49 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA115770; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 17:52:34 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603202352.AA115770@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: OK, I'm back! To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 17:52:32 -0600 (CST) Cc: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) In-Reply-To: <199603202231.QAA23517@natashya.eden.com> from "Kay Chang" at Mar 20, 96 04:31:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2078 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Ummm, okay. Welcome back!! This little 'kat gives ya a big high-five for > coming back to us!! And right back at ya! > >topics mainly, to ask about and comment on, > > Fine with me. I don't mind. (Heck, I've saved nearly every message I got > from this list since I subsribed.) I've got nearly all of them too, but someday I think I'll just replace everything with the rat.org archives to fill the holes and keep 'em seperate from all my other E-mail. But that would mean I would actually get something organized, a first if there ever was one. > > Could someone please tell me who this Olga Person is? > > Sorry sir. I do not understand the question. Others will (Ditto on the ) > > |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| > > | | | | > > \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / > > \/ \/ > > Cool sig. I like the kats heads. (They *are* kats head, aren't they?) Thanx! Well, more like the closest thing I could come to the Kat symbol as seen during the ending credits. I had earlier come up with this: |\/| \/ but decided on a bigger, four line version. Whether or not it looks good kind of depends upon the font you're using. Good in some fonts, bad in others. Which brings me to a question I've been meaning to ask: Has anyone ever made SWAT Kats ascii art? And if so could you please post it? I think I'll make a request in the ascii group for some, direct them to stuff up on rat.org and post whatever's made (Unless it's SWAT perv ) > Terra Chang: |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 20 20:01:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA20232 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 19:34:44 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA20226 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 19:34:41 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.204] (dyn1204a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.204]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA05441 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 07:35:54 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 07:32:59 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Who's Party is this anyway? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Kinda quiet on the Kat front today. Are we celebrating a Birthday or >>mourning the loss of a favorite gerbil??? >> >>Somebody pass me that bottle of Chateau Le KatsFeet and let's party! > >Oooooo. Are we all invited? >I don't have any pets. My parents won't let me get one. I wanna get a cat! >Two of 'em! (And guess what I'd name them . . .) Who? >Oh yeah, and speaking of pets, Courtney got two new fish over spring break. >A goldfish and an orange angel fish. They were offically named Jake and >Chance. Hmmm, what will happen if a goldfish named Mutilor join these two fish? >Terra Chang: ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 20 20:07:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA20302 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 19:35:38 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA20294 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 19:35:35 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.204] (dyn1204a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.204]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA05469 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 07:36:49 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 07:33:54 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: OK, I'm back! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Kevin.L wrote: >> I was cosidering throwing out all sorts of topics for discussion in this >>post, but then I decided to instead kept it short and sweet and leave the >>discussion in other posts. I've read almost all of the posts made since I >>left, with a few holes in various places, and I've got a lot of things, old >>topics mainly, to ask about and comment on, Terra wrote: >Fine with me. I don't mind. (Heck, I've saved nearly every message I got >from this list since I subsribed.) You also do that too, Terra? I too also saved *every* message that I receieved from the list since the day I subscribed, and I keep doing that even though I know that there is an archive somewhere. >> Could someone please tell me who this Olga Person is? > >Sorry sir. I do not understand the question. Same here, who the heck is Olga? >Terra Chang: From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 20 21:06:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA27378 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:58:55 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA27372 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:58:52 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA78388; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 19:58:42 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603210158.AA78388@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: anime Callie To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 19:58:42 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "ARTHUR JOHN FREDA" at Mar 20, 96 03:55:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1218 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Ok, you all asked for it, I have found an anime callie with big eyes, > etc. in "Mutation City" Where she is jumping anound on the cars above the > muck. Looks like mook made a boo-boo! Callie is looking here best, IMO in the Deadly Pyramid (Well, not actually *in* the pyramid, just in that episode ;-) ) and I think she looks the most anime like there as well. Coincidence? Maaaaaybe. She *was* looking a little angular in Mutation City (I check again soon to remind myself) with a somewhat strange looking mouth, but I don't immediately recall too much more of an anime look than in other eps, however, I do need to check again. But who's to say that's really a boo-boo? SWAT Kats already is very much like anime, and the more like anime, the better I say (You'd rather Kats look the like other H-B properties? I don't.) > A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 20 21:44:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA27661 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 21:02:43 -0500 Received: from occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net (occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net [204.71.75.187]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA27656 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 21:02:41 -0500 Received: from s17-pm01.occ-uky.campus.mci.net (s17-pm01.occ-uky.campus.mci.net [205.219.158.46]) by occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA18401 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:02:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:02:28 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603210202.UAA18401@occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net> X-Sender: mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: David Minter Subject: Re: Who's Party is this anyway? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 12:42 PM 3/20/96 EST, you wrote: > >Kinda quiet on the Kat front today. Are we celebrating a Birthday or >mourning the loss of a favorite gerbil??? > >Somebody pass me that bottle of Chateau Le KatsFeet and let's party! While I cannot supply that particular brand of alcohol, I will toss two pawfuls of Katfetti in celebration of our first year of kittenhood. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 20 22:22:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA02225 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 22:13:40 -0500 Received: from you.got.net (you.got.net [205.199.112.9]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA02219 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 22:13:37 -0500 Received: from lsetnor (lsetnor.got.net [205.199.119.206]) by you.got.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA20868 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:45:28 -0800 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:45:28 -0800 Message-Id: <199603210445.UAA20868@you.got.net> X-Sender: lsetnor@mail.got.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: lsetnor@got.net (Leslie Setnor) Subject: Re: Happy Birthday kats! X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Ok, since that the list have already aged one year, I think that we should give us SWAT Kats fans a name, what it will be? > >------------------------------------- >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id How about... SWAT Troopers? Katnips? SWAT Buffs? nah... Karen Setnor lsetnor@got.net mcjd61b@prodigy.com From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 20 23:21:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA06120 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:01:21 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA06108 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:01:18 -0500 Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA05251 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:02:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:02:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199603210402.XAA05251@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@underdog.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: Who's Party is this anyway? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 08:02 PM 3/20/96 -0600, you wrote: >Somebody pass me that bottle of Chateau Le KatsFeet and let's party! Naw, if we're going to celebrate, we should do it the way the Swat Kats do when *they* have a good day, by breaking out the cans of milk! Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 00:03:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA08719 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:47:07 -0500 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA08669 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:47:01 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with SMTP id XAA16858 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:46:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA03876 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:59:41 -0800 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:59:41 -0800 Message-Id: <199603210459.UAA03876@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SK Drinking Game Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I'm going to Phoenix from Wednesday until Sunday, so here's a nice >little present before I go (as if Children of the Stone wasn't big >enough): > > >THE SWAT KATS DRINKING GAME! > (taken from the Gargoyles Drinking Game on the >WWW fanfic archive) > >1. Get an ample supply of your favorite drink. > >2. Gulp every time the show meets this criteria: That was a *scream*! Thanks for sharing. Let's just hope we aren't playing while on IRC or everyone's typing will start looking like "blkadvmc:":?>}}_+.." ("blkadvmc:":?}}_+.."??? isn't that in the former Yugoslavia?) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 00:06:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA08467 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:46:34 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA08208 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:46:05 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA03842 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:59:32 -0800 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:59:32 -0800 Message-Id: <199603210459.UAA03842@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: RE: SwatKats Fan Club Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Just let me know what I can do. >> >>BTW-I'm sending this reply to the KatsList as well. Prohaps there are >>some KatFolks out there that might like to help. > >Oh! I can help . . . summer vacation will soon be exsistant, and I will have >lotsa free time. >Walt!! 'Member me? Ahhhhhhh!! Where were you? Why didn't ja write? (Okay, >I'll calm down now . . .) >I can help . . . and I'm pretty reliable. I will do whatever I can to help. Wow. That message that Steve quoted was oooollllldddd...like, November or some junk. Walt's old address, wkoziol@delphi.com, got unsubbed, and I haven't seen him resub under the new one (though he did have some concerns about the amount of katmail he was getting earlier, which may explain it). At the bottom of Dana's KATSFAQ there is a list of contributors, one of which is Walt with the new(er) address. He's also "T-Bone" on Furtoonia. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 00:21:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA17341 for kats-ll; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 00:07:32 -0500 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA17329 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 00:07:29 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with SMTP id XAA16687 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:46:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA03934 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:59:55 -0800 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:59:55 -0800 Message-Id: <199603210459.UAA03934@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: anime Callie Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > SWAT Kats already is >very much like anime, and the more like anime, the better I say (You'd rather >Kats look the like other H-B properties? I don't.) Hmm...the possibilities are endless in the WPT format. Lessee...Butch Hartman's "Callie and Chip"? Eh...nah. How about Eddie Fitzgerald's "Callie: The Worm"? Um...pass. Hey! I know! Pat Ventura presents "Callie and Yukky Duck paint the Town"! Um, no, wait....sorry Brain - nobody wants the town painted any shade of "vomit". "Callie's Lab"? Hmmm....series potential there.... (psst. Don't tell Dexter...) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 00:25:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA08575 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:46:58 -0500 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA08553 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:46:52 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with SMTP id XAA16461 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:46:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA03858 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:59:39 -0800 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:59:39 -0800 Message-Id: <199603210459.UAA03858@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Anyone in Phoenix? (off-topic) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Balticon is the Baltimore Science Fiction Society (BSFS) >>annual gatering. It takes place at the Omni International 4/5 - 4/7. > >Is too bad that the SWAT Kats IRC project has failed, we could chat a lot of "off the topic" discussion there. I know there's a pack of us that would like to get on IRC at the same time, but I'd have to skip out from work to make it. Most of you lot are in another timezone and I'm out here treading water in the Pacific. Maybe if you guys could make it *later*, say oh...1900 hrs my time, then I could make it, and maybe Dana and the others on the coast if they want. (duh...that'd be 7pm my time). Friday night works for me (I'm *normally* home or at least can access from work), and someone will need to put up the server/channel info again. (I might be able to work it 6pm...hmm.) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 00:26:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA08468 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:46:34 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA08422 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:46:23 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA03911 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:59:44 -0800 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:59:44 -0800 Message-Id: <199603210459.UAA03911@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Happy Birthday kats! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>How about a name for the Fan List, say. . ."The Katalyst?" >> >>Eyeah . . . do you even know the real definition of catalyst? It means >>"something that brings about change." (I wish! I wish we could change >>Turner's mind about the cancellation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) > >Well, I think that the mission of this list is to bring a change, to give us Kats a hope that someday maybe the SWAT kats series can go more than 24 episodes. We've been well-noticed in some rather odd quarters, but I don't know if there's any kind of measurable effect on those that hold the keys to the Turbokat. I *did* hear something interesting awhile ago that I didn't mention because I couldn't corroborate it, but it seems that certain people were asked to explain certain decisions on the carpet in Atlanta awhile back, and one of them was reportedly the mishandling of "certain properties". Sadly, certain people still have their job(s), so I'm not sure what happened. That was like around Christmas or some junk, and I've not heard much else since. Not to slam H-B at all, but friends in the upper echelons of competitive Animation concerns look at Turner's management record over the past few years and can't stop laughing. Maybe they're trying to turn it around, but unless you know where to stop turning you just wind up in a full circle. Apparently the whole fan-mail handling thing has taken yet another paradigm shift, but I'd have to call to get the details. Someone I just talked to passed on the name of someone I recognized from elsewhere, but last I'd heard all the fanmail was still going to the immortal Mark Hughes in "Classic Cartoons". Mebbe they never *got* to those unopened boxes of mail and were relieved of the responsibility. I'll try find out. (I've been kinda lax in my long-distance duties lately because judging by my last phone bill, I think I'm singlehandedly supporting the phone company's Fiber Optic revolution.) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 00:34:59 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA17342 for kats-ll; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 00:07:33 -0500 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA17333 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 00:07:30 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with SMTP id XAA16462 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:46:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA03855 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:59:36 -0800 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:59:36 -0800 Message-Id: <199603210459.UAA03855@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: The vortex scene on "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice". Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Is it a standard animation or a computer animation? >From what I understand, there was very little computer assisted anything involved in the production of Kats. In fact, and I stand to be corrected, I think the only computer-animation equipment resides with Turner Feature Animation (USAnimation platform) at the moment. At the moment, computer ink-and-paint is catching on ("Balto", "Tick", "Beavis and Butthead") along with some relatively sorry-lookin' assisted inbetweening (um.."Tick", sorry to say), but I think we're a bit far away from wholly created CGI Sat-AM animated sequences that *don't* look like "Space Strikers" and "Spiderman". (Those CG background bits *really* set my teeth on edge, and I hope that Davis and the 'Jonny' gang have managed to dump all those Frenchified CG backgrounds in favour of the beautiful stuff from 'Kats). Um...in other words, "no"...I'm pretty certain it was someone with a pencil and a great deal of imagination. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 00:42:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA17564 for kats-ll; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 00:13:48 -0500 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA17559 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 00:13:46 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with SMTP id XAA16628 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:46:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA03928 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:59:52 -0800 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:59:52 -0800 Message-Id: <199603210459.UAA03928@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: OK, I'm back! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> Ummm, okay. Welcome back!! This little 'kat gives ya a big high-five for >> coming back to us!! > > And right back at ya! > >> >topics mainly, to ask about and comment on, >> >> Fine with me. I don't mind. (Heck, I've saved nearly every message I got >> from this list since I subsribed.) > > I've got nearly all of them too, but someday I think I'll just replace >everything with the rat.org archives to fill the holes and keep 'em seperate >from all my other E-mail. But that would mean I would actually get something >organized, a first if there ever was one. Kevin was one of the very originals - in fact, I think his big movie idea post was one of the first batch I sent the Tremblays about a year ago now. I've been trying to keep an archive of katposts which I periodically download and mail Christian and Yvon, but I think I'll just d/l the zip file and save myself a lot of headaches! >> > Could someone please tell me who this Olga Person is? Olga purported to be a lonely Russian chick in search of one of our Kats to keep her warm at night in Siberia. I think she had trouble finding a hubby in the USSR because she smelled so strongly of Spam, and as such the term "Olga" now applies to any other spammer that attempts to crash the list security and post advertising. Since the inimitable "Olga", we've had three or four additional attempts which wind up in my dead-letter "owner-kats" box and are immediately consigned to the box of Happy-Kat where they belong. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 00:48:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA09950 for kats-ll; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:52:17 -0500 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA09945 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:52:15 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with SMTP id XAA17141 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:47:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA03925 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:59:48 -0800 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:59:48 -0800 Message-Id: <199603210459.UAA03925@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Birthday Surprise for Tedco/Re:What's up with dogs? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >How 'bout we all send our 'signatures' to someone, and they can send one big >letter? And a bunch of personal letters. I would be impressed with 70 >signatures in one letter and with 70 different letters from different people. >If no one else wants to collect signatures, I will. (Of course, we have to >agree on it first, and if no one wants to do my idea, I'll still go along >with Steve's.) I wanted to make sure that mail was actually *going* somewhere before exhorting the membership to write again. At the moment, it seems impossible to get a single *name* to address such mail to, as you can't pin responsibility for a kats on/off decision on any one person...though four-out-of-five-dentists (and not a few Barberians) highly recommend Fred Seibert. Fred's been using his mail to light cigars for over a year now, so maybe that's not the best plan either. I personally like a variation of a single unusually sized letter with a pack of signatures on it with two lines or so from each Katfan, but that'd be *very* hard to organize. BTW, I know at least ten people that have mailed Turner at the various addresses, and roughly three got responses outside the standard form-letter - and *none* of these came from the intended recipient (in addition to being totally "unofficial"). >>H-B's fax is (213) 969-1201 >>TCN's E-mail address is toonnet@aol.com > >TCN said that TBS's address is richard.turner@turner.com Um...careful here. Turner addresses are set up so that you can theoretically get hold of anyone by putting their full name, seperated by a period, before the "@turner.com". Don't swamp poor old Richard with mail, as I doubt he's meant to be TBS' version of an "in box". >Well, how happy of a Cartoon Network viewer are you? So happy that you can >let us slide here...? That's really cool...I like these guys. > Oh, we triiiiied to find out what the deal with SWAT Kats is. Goodness >knows we tried! All of our information tells us that the same episodes aired, >intact, on TBS and Cartoon Network. ...less "Secret Files of the SwatKats" and the "Katseye News Special Report/SKIQ" episode, and the "Today on SwatKats!" bumpers prior to the opening credits. Does TCN have those "and now back to SWATKATS" bumpers at the act-breaks? I guess someone lost the master of that SKIQ episode. I have a feeling I'm going to send them a videotape showing exactly what's missing. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 10:14:25 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA24317 for kats-ll; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 09:50:03 -0500 Received: from genphysics.com (genphysics.com [206.215.35.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA24268 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 09:49:57 -0500 Received: from mailgate.genphysics.com (11.2.1.6) by mail.genphysics.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.70) with SMTP id ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 09:49:54 -0500 Received: by mailgate.genphysics.com with Microsoft Mail id <31516C8B@mailgate.genphysics.com>; Thu, 21 Mar 96 09:49:47 EST From: "Roberts, Steve" To: wkoziol Cc: "'Kats List'" Subject: RE: SwatKats Fan Club Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 09:49:00 EST Message-ID: <31516C8B@mailgate.genphysics.com> Encoding: 66 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I wrote: >>Just let me know what I can do. >>BTW-I'm sending this reply to the KatsList as well. Prohaps there are >>some KatFolks out there that might like to help. >>Steve Walt replyed: >Thanks, now, could you give me the email address to Majordomo. When >I was switching over to my new email address I missed placed it. Oh >yea, you can be the secretary and treasure. But seriously though, you >could help me by taking off the load and collecting the snail mail >addresses. The past few months have been living hell for me and I've >missed placed some of the names. This is my own fault but I was doing >this at late at night and I was trying to catch with all the addresses. If >you could free me from this borden I would really apprciate it very much. >This will give me some time for other things like comming up with >activities and trying to get in touch with the guy who supposedly did a >Swat Kats Fanzine. I've been out of it these past few months and I >could use that extra time to play catch up as well. The only thing I >would ask from you is that you will send me an updated list at least >once or twice a year. If you are using a clone please let me know >which database, wordprocessing, spreadsheets, or anything else for that >matter software so I can tell you which would be the best way for you >to send it. If you are using any other system like a Mac, Amiga, then >send it to me via ASCII. If its an Atari 16bit systems send me the >file that you did. I can handle everything on the Atari platform of >computers. Thank you for taking your time and your offer to help. We >will get this club in flight. >From the List. . .. Tarra Wrote: >Oh! I can help . . . summer vacation will soon be exsistant, and I will have >lotsa free time. Walt!! 'Member me? Ahhhhhhh!! Where were you? Why >didn't ja write? (Okay, I'll calm down now . . .) >I can help . . . and I'm pretty reliable. I will do whatever I can to help. And, Peej Wrote: >I think a Swat Kats fan club is a great idea!! :-) Let me know how I may >help. Now for my part. . .. Due to unforseen circumstances well beyond my control (a situation that arose as late as yesterday evening), I'm unable to remain here in MegaKat City. So, with much regret, I must rescind my offer to help with the fan club . Majordomo's address is majordomo@lists.mv.net I'm forwarding this message to the KatsList. It looks like you can easily pull some support there. Tarra and Peej are looking to help. To the Kats: Well KatsFolks, It's been real. Hope to hear from you all again when the climent gets a little better around here. Don't eat too much Katnip. It'll turn your brain into mush. Best Regards to you Walt, and the rest of the Kats: Steve From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 11:25:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA28338 for kats-ll; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 10:49:00 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA28328 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 10:48:56 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.101] (dyn1101a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.101]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA11523 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 22:49:48 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 22:47:04 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Name for SWAT Kats fans. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Ok, since that the list have already aged one year, I think that we should >>give us SWAT Kats fans a name, what it will be? >> >>------------------------------------- >>Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id > >How about... SWAT Troopers? >Katnips? >SWAT Buffs? > >nah... Well, we could do it ala Trek fans (Trekkie and Trekker). >Karen Setnor >lsetnor@got.net >mcjd61b@prodigy.com ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 11:33:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA28298 for kats-ll; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 10:48:28 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA28284 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 10:48:23 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.101] (dyn1101a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.101]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA11483 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 22:49:13 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 22:46:33 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: anime Callie Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> Ok, you all asked for it, I have found an anime callie with big eyes, >> etc. in "Mutation City" Where she is jumping anound on the cars above the >> muck. Looks like mook made a boo-boo! > > Callie is looking here best, IMO in the Deadly Pyramid (Well, not >actually *in* the pyramid, just in that episode ;-) ) Well, I actually doesn't like on how she was drawn in "The Deadly Pyramid". But I do like on how she was drawn in "Mutation City", then again, it is hard to judge on how she looks in the second season episodes. >and I think she looks the most anime like there as well. Coincidence? >Maaaaaybe. > > She *was* looking a little angular in Mutation City (I check again soon to >remind myself) with a somewhat strange looking mouth, but I don't immediately >recall too much more of an anime look than in other eps, however, I do need to >check again. But who's to say that's really a boo-boo? Yes, it is a boo-boo, Mook has gone overboard by making it look more like anime. But it's a nice boo-boo. :) >SWAT Kats already is >very much like anime, and the more like anime, the better I say (You'd rather >Kats look the like other H-B properties? I don't.) Well, if SWAT Kats are becoming more like anime, us SWAT Kats fans are going to have an identity crisis, should we call ourself anime fans or Kats? >> A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please > >Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 11:54:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA02181 for kats-ll; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 11:45:07 -0500 Received: from ny.psca.com ([192.246.114.6]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA02116 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 11:45:03 -0500 Received: from aquaman. (aquaman [192.246.114.18]) by ny.psca.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA24835 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 11:41:04 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 11:41:04 -0500 From: Mitch Botwin Message-Id: <199603211641.LAA24835@ny.psca.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: anime Callie Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > > Well, if SWAT Kats are becoming more like anime, us SWAT Kats fans are going to have an identity crisis, should we call ourself anime fans or Kats? > > >> A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please > > > >Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu > > ------------------------------------- > Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id > "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." > > > Why do we have to limit ourselves to one type of fan or another. We can be both anime fans and Kats. Mitch Botwin -------------------------------------- Paradigm (212) 850-8129 Beeper 800-796-7363 pin#1047597 mbotwin@ny.psca.com -------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 14:57:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA16184 for kats-ll; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:36:46 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA16177 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:36:33 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA33056; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 13:32:41 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603211932.AA33056@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: anime Callie To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 13:32:41 -0600 (CST) Cc: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) In-Reply-To: <199603211641.LAA24835@ny.psca.com> from "Mitch Botwin" at Mar 21, 96 11:41:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1175 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > > Well, if SWAT Kats are becoming more like anime, us SWAT Kats fans are going to have an identity crisis, should we call ourself anime fans or Kats? > > Why do we have to limit ourselves to one type of fan or another. We can be bot h > anime fans and Kats. > > Mitch Botwin Exactly, Mitch. I was about to say the say thing. I'm both a Kats fan and an anime fan. Who ever said the two couldn't be synonymous? And besides, SWAT Kats is very much anime like to begin with. Where do you think those streaking backgrounds, for instance, come from? I would argue that if it weren't for anime and its influence, then SWAT Kats would be, ahem, radically different than what we see now. SWAT Kats is just what I'd expect from a synthesis of anime and H-B. Say, by any chance were the Tremblays influenced by anime or manga? I wouldn't be surprised if they were. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 15:02:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA16262 for kats-ll; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:38:48 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA16254 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:38:43 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA113022; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 13:38:37 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603211938.AA113022@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Name for SWAT Kats fans. To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 13:38:37 -0600 (CST) Cc: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at Mar 21, 96 10:47:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 647 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Well, we could do it ala Trek fans (Trekkie and Trekker). > > Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id SWATers? Katies? Nah, I'm just not seeing it. Howsabout Megafans, The Radicals, or Katphiles? I *do* kind of like just Kats fans, but a variation of that might be Kat fans (singular) No, I got it! The Anti-Teds! |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 15:10:45 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA19474 for kats-ll; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:58:49 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA19421 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:58:07 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA74486; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 13:58:00 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603211958.AA74486@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: The vortex scene on "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice". To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 13:58:00 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199603210459.UAA03855@unix.infoserve.net> from "chance" at Mar 20, 96 08:59:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1066 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >Is it a standard animation or a computer animation? > > >From what I understand, there was very little computer assisted anything > involved in the production of Kats. In fact, and I stand to be corrected, > > Um...in other words, "no"...I'm pretty certain it was someone with a pencil > and a great deal of imagination. I'm not an expert, but I'd say the scene where T-Bone and Razor go hurtling into the vortex back to prehistoric times *has* to be CG. I have no idea how it could be anything but. True, I don't immediately recall any type of CG mentioned in the credits (I'll check again.) but still, it looks mighty CG to me. Now the scenes with *exterior* of the vortex, if that's what you're talking about, those are hand drawn, that's clear. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 15:34:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA17925 for kats-ll; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:50:19 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA17898 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:49:53 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA69456; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 13:48:51 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603211948.AA69456@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: OK, I'm back! To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 13:48:51 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199603210459.UAA03928@unix.infoserve.net> from "chance" at Mar 20, 96 08:59:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1172 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Kevin was one of the very originals - in fact, I think his big movie idea post > was one of the first batch I sent the Tremblays about a year ago now. Oh, boy! Now a lot of kats fans are going to go digging through the old posts searching for it and then they'll see just how screwy I was and still can be! That movie post was long, but very disorganized, like most everything I've written. Long timers will be pleased to know that now I've cleared up and thought out just about darn near every aspect of the film and what it would be about, but I've got it stored in a very unreliable file, my brain. Someday I'll download, but knowing me that won't be any time too soon =-< > >> > Could someone please tell me who this Olga Person is? > > Olga purported to be a lonely Russian chick in search of one of our Kats to Let's introduce her to Dark Kat! |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 17:37:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA01579 for kats-ll; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 16:57:03 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA01566 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 16:56:45 -0500 Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.5/merit-2.0) with SMTP id QAA11684 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 16:56:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa24749; 21 Mar 96 16:59 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <3151FB27@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Thu, 21 Mar 96 16:58:15 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: Kats list Subject: IRC (was: Re: Anyone in Phoenix? (off-topic)) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 16:57:00 PST Message-ID: <3151FB27@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 17 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Is too bad that the SWAT Kats IRC project has failed, we could chat >>a lot of "off the topic" discussion there. >I know there's a pack of us that would like to get on IRC at the same time, >but I'd have to skip out from work to make it. Most of you lot are in another >timezone and I'm out here treading water in the Pacific. Maybe if you guys >could make it *later*, say oh...1900 hrs my time, then I could make it, The IRC project hasn't failed! Everytime I'm online, I have the chat channel open while I'm working on other stuff. Unfortunately, I'm having a lot of problems with my dial-up connection right now. I hope to have it fixed soon (within a week hopefully).. I'll try to be on the channel this Friday if I can get connected.. -Matt From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 18:18:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA03087 for kats-ll; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:28:01 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA03072 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:27:44 -0500 Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.5/merit-2.0) with SMTP id RAA12556 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:27:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa24880; 21 Mar 96 17:31 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <31520288@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Thu, 21 Mar 96 17:29:44 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: Kats list Subject: Mucks, Muds, & Moos Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 17:28:00 PST Message-ID: <31520288@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 7 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I'm just curious how many Kat fans are also involved with the Mucks (like Furtoonia)? I know that Dana, Walt, and myself have Kat identities when role-playing.. anyone else? -Matt (Purrcy on FT) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 18:42:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA07303 for kats-ll; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:14:38 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA07298 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:14:35 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.167] (dyn1167a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.167]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA24668 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 06:15:48 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 06:12:55 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Name for SWAT Kats fans. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> Well, we could do it ala Trek fans (Trekkie and Trekker). >> >> Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id > >SWATers? Katies? Nope, how about these? Kattie (Trekkie) Katter (Trekker) >Nah, I'm just not seeing it. Howsabout Megafans, The >Radicals, or Katphiles? I *do* kind of like just Kats fans, but a variation of >that might be Kat fans (singular) No, I got it! The Anti-Teds! Well, how about just plain "Kats"? ot "Kat" (singular)? >Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 18:51:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA07337 for kats-ll; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:15:03 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA07332 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:15:00 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.167] (dyn1167a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.167]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA24688 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 06:16:12 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 06:13:20 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: The vortex scene on "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice". Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Now the scenes with *exterior* of the vortex, if that's what you're >talking about, those are hand drawn, that's clear. Nope, I wasn't talking about the scene with the exterior of the vortex, I was refering to the scene where the TurboKat are *in* the vortex . >Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 19:04:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA07199 for kats-ll; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:13:14 -0500 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA07194 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:13:11 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with ESMTP id SAA27076 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:13:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from net-2-091.austin.eden.com (net-2-091.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.91]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id RAA16203 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:11:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:11:18 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603212311.RAA16203@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Name for SWAT Kats fans. X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> Well, we could do it ala Trek fans (Trekkie and Trekker). >> >> Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id > > SWATers? Katies? Nah, I'm just not seeing it. Howsabout Megafans, The >Radicals, or Katphiles? I *do* kind of like just Kats fans, but a variation of >that might be Kat fans (singular) No, I got it! The Anti-Teds! Well, no matter what everyone else decides on, I will still always refer to myself as "this little kat" when I can. Hey, I like that name. And this is sorta off-topic, but right now I am reading some really cool mystery stories, and the detective is a woman name Kat (Ahhhh!) Colorado. I wish I had that name . . . Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan Supporter of crazy ideas "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 19:16:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA07320 for kats-ll; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:14:58 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA07315 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:14:53 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.167] (dyn1167a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.167]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA24675 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 06:15:52 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 06:13:10 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: anime SWAT Kats Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>Well, if SWAT Kats are becoming more like anime, us SWAT Kats fans are going >>>to have an identity crisis, should we call ourself anime fans or Kats? >> >>Why do we have to limit ourselves to one type of fan or another. We can be >>both anime fans and Kats. Yeah, but what will we address ourself? should we address ourself as anime fans when there is a Katcon (If there is ever gonna be a Katcon)? or should we gone switching from anime fans to Kats to anime fans to Kats to anime fans, etc. >>Mitch Botwin > > Exactly, Mitch. I was about to say the say thing. I'm both a Kats fan and >an anime fan. Who ever said the two couldn't be synonymous? Yeah, but will SWAT Kats goes in the anime catagory? > And besides, SWAT Kats is very much anime like to begin with. >Where do you think those streaking backgrounds, for instance, come from? anime? >I would argue that if it weren't for anime and its influence, then SWAT Kats >would be, ahem, radically different than what we see now. Yeah, in animation wise, but in the story departement it will still remain the same. >SWAT Kats is just >what I'd expect from a synthesis of anime and H-B. Say, by any chance were the >Tremblays influenced by anime or manga? I wouldn't be surprised if they were. Influence I agree, becaming TOTALY anime is something that we must consider. >Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 19:18:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA06946 for kats-ll; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:06:40 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA06941 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:06:30 -0500 Received: from net-2-091.austin.eden.com (net-2-091.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.91]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id RAA15881 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:06:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:06:26 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603212306.RAA15881@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: RE: SwatKats Fan Club X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>From the List. . .. >Tarra Wrote: Not to bite off your head or anything, sweetie, but YOU SPELLED MY NAME WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!! I *****************************REALLY***************************************** ********* hate that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! I'm sorry . . . I didn't mean to sound rude but my name has been spelled wrong so many times that I am sick and tired of it!!!!!! Thank you. I've said my piece. >Now for my part. . .. > >Due to unforseen circumstances well beyond my control (a situation that >arose as late as yesterday evening), I'm unable to remain here in MegaKat >City. So, with much regret, I must rescind my offer to help with the fan >club . Oh, you poor thing. It's okay, if no one else understands, I do. (Trust me, this has happened to me a LOT before.) >I'm forwarding this message to the KatsList. It looks like you can >easily pull some support there. Tarra and Peej are looking to help. (TERRA. It's spelled T-e-r-r-a. Okay?) And I can help. Relly! >To the Kats: > >Well KatsFolks, It's been real. Hope to hear from you all again when the >climent gets a little better around here. Don't eat too much Katnip. > It'll turn your brain into mush. But it won't happen to me. Y'see, one day I let my mind wander, and it never came back. I think right now it is currently living in California, whereas I'm in Texas. >Best Regards to you Walt, and the rest of the Kats: > >Steve Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan Supporter of crazy ideas "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 19:38:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA10479 for kats-ll; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:59:45 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA10212 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:59:26 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA19534; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 19:05:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 19:05:04 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: sorry.... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Sorry I haven't been an avid poster lately, I've been working on drawing the kats close to a mook style. Currently I am at about the hanho level. If I had a scanner I'd scan in all my great artwork! A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 21 20:13:38 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA12323 for kats-ll; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 19:33:53 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA12315 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 19:33:49 -0500 Received: from bossrkf5.bossnt.com (bossrkf5.bossnt.com [198.150.207.45]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA07832 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 19:34:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 19:34:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199603220034.TAA07832@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: peej@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Peejster Subject: Re: Who's Party is this anyway? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >Naw, if we're going to celebrate, we should do it the way the Swat Kats do >when *they* have a good day, by breaking out the cans of milk! > > Max > > > > Maxie, include me in on that party and the milk too!! :-) Come on, everyone, let's party!! Peej From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 22 09:52:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA12145 for kats-ll; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 09:38:17 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA12140 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 09:38:14 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA61672; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:38:11 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603221438.AA61672@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: anime SWAT Kats To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:38:11 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at Mar 22, 96 06:13:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3881 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Yeah, but what will we address ourself? should we address ourself as anime fan s when there is a Katcon (If there is ever gonna be a Katcon)? or should we gone switching from anime fans to Kats to anime fans to Kats to anime fans, etc. I'm having trouble seeing as how there could be confusion. Just because you're a fan of more than one thing that doesn't mean you have to pick a single name and adhere to it steadfastly in all instances. Here I'm more readily recognized as a Kats Fan, in r.a.animation, an animation fan, in r.a.anime, an anime fan, and other times a comic book fan, and still *other* times a Jackie Chan fan. If an when there is a Katcon (I Hope, I Hope), it only seems reasonable to say you're a Kats Fan before any others, unless you mean something ultra specific like Callie Fan, T-Bone Fan, Feral Fan, etc. > >an anime fan. Who ever said the two couldn't be synonymous? > > Yeah, but will SWAT Kats goes in the anime catagory? Nah, SWAT Kats isn't anime. I've discussed just exactly what anime means extensively with a few people before. In Japan it just means animation. Elsewhere the term is nowhere near so general. Here's a rough definition that I've come up with: Anime: Animation of any type made primarily for Japanese consumership, with Japanese dialog (If any), usually animated in Japan, and always with Japanese writing and directing. It's not really enough to just say Japanese animation becuase there's so much of it made for American TV. The consumership part is to make exception for Macross ][ and Ghost in the Shell, the fact that the dialog (if any) is originally Japanese is something that all anime have in common, the animation is sometimes non-Japanese (Gatchaman and Tenchi Muyo are Korean animated, I think.), the Japanese writing and directing are, like the dialog, consistent with all anime, and so are similarly included. Whew! That's about as exact as I could make it. Heck, my defintion is more exact than the ones given by either Trish Ledoux or Helen MacArthy. The only thing Japanese about SWAT Kats is Mook's animation. Though certain styles in character design, animation, and theme are frequent among anime (Hence my use of the term "anime like"), those are not absolutes, so even if a production is the spitting image of anime, it isn't truly anime unless it meets the above criteria. Answer your question? I sure hope so. > > And besides, SWAT Kats is very much anime like to begin with. > >Where do you think those streaking backgrounds, for instance, come from? > > anime? I can't think of any other source. > >I would argue that if it weren't for anime and its influence, then SWAT Kats > >would be, ahem, radically different than what we see now. > > Yeah, in animation wise, but in the story departement it will still remain the same. Most likely. I'm not really seeing too much in the way of anime inspiration in the stories or writing other than the basic fact that SWAT Kats isn't dumbed down like so many other American shows, something which rarely occurs in similar Japanese productions. > >SWAT Kats is just > >what I'd expect from a synthesis of anime and H-B. Say, by any chance were t he > >Tremblays influenced by anime or manga? I wouldn't be surprised if they were From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 22 10:00:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA14006 for kats-ll; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 09:51:03 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA13996 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 09:50:58 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA41212; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:50:56 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603221450.AA41212@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: The vortex scene on "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice". To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:50:56 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at Mar 22, 96 06:13:20 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1453 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Nope, I wasn't talking about the scene with the exterior of the vortex, I was refering to the scene where the TurboKat are *in* the vortex . I checked it again last night, watched it a half doezen times and freezed framed through it. There is no way in the universe it can be hand animated. Portions of the "tunnel" such as the top look like they might be a photograph or video of, as weird as this may sound, clouds over the ocean as seen from space. It might also be a computer generated image, or *maybe* a painting (Which I guess would mean hand drawn.) As to how the effect was made, I don't know. Perhaps it was computer manipulation of the image, whatever it was, but it might have been an extreme lensing techinique. It reminds me a lot of the end of 2001. I don't think that used computers, so a low tech approach isn't out of the question. Oh, and there were no credits for computer graphics, but seeing as how there weren't any credits of any type for other type of FX, then CG still isn't ruled out. Could somebody please offer some opinions and/or knowhow to this discussion? I'd really like to know how it was done. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 22 10:31:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA15545 for kats-ll; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 10:06:20 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA15531 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 10:06:17 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA32140; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 09:06:14 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603221506.AA32140@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Milk: It does a Kat good. To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 09:06:14 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199603220034.TAA07832@underdog.maxie.com> from "Peejster" at Mar 21, 96 07:34:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1278 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >Naw, if we're going to celebrate, we should do it the way the Swat Kats do > >when *they* have a good day, by breaking out the cans of milk! > > > > Max > > > Maxie, include me in on that party and the milk too!! :-) > > Peej I'm with ya. This also make me wonder how milk fits into Kat society. It appears to be a very popular beverage, one that's analogous to soda and beer (Yes, they actually have carbonated milk!) and I betcha they use it like coffee, but Kats mix it with cocoa instead. It comes in regular and decaf, has instant versions (Mix with ordinary milk), and there are capuccino versions with marshmallows and everything. Can't you see beatnik Kats hanging out in chocolate milk bars listening to poetry readings? And what about wines? Perhaps some type of slightly soured skim milks? Kinda sounds gross, but when you consider the things humans drink, it's really all relative. What other milk types might Kats drink? |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 22 17:40:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA19755 for kats-ll; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 17:17:14 -0500 Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com (emout04.mail.aol.com [198.81.10.12]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA19747 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 17:17:11 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA02861 for kats@bort.mv.net; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 17:16:40 -0500 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 17:16:40 -0500 Message-ID: <960322171637_452509711@emout04.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Mucks, Muds, & Moos Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I'm just curious how many Kat fans are also involved with the Mucks (like >Furtoonia)? >I know that Dana, Walt, and myself have Kat identities when role-playing.. >anyone else? > > -Matt (Purrcy on FT) I spend time on Furry, but am more often found on FT. I'm working on Megakat Desert. My name's Kris! BTW- I've seen your palace. Nice place! (My house is off of the Dirt Road) Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa Anne Kris on FT / Kriss on Furry From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 22 20:55:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA04136 for kats-ll; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 20:37:08 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA04127 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 20:37:01 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA24608; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 20:42:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 20:42:42 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Nitpicking tonight! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I'm going to start my 2nd Season nitpick guide tonight! Wish me luck that I find all the little mistakes! A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 22 20:59:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA03880 for kats-ll; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 20:27:13 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA03875 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 20:27:08 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA24135; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 20:32:33 -0500 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 20:32:33 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: The vortex scene on "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice". In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Where the TurboKat are *in* the vortex And then callie says, "The SWAT Kats! There gone!" (If none of you knew *what* vortex Edo was talking about. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 22 21:23:52 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA07017 for kats-ll; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 21:04:26 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA07012 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 21:04:22 -0500 Received: from net-3-109.austin.eden.com (net-3-109.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.109]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id UAA12684 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 20:04:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 20:04:17 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603230204.UAA12684@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Nitpicking tonight! X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I'm going to start my 2nd Season nitpick guide tonight! Wish me luck that >I find all the little mistakes! Okay, sweetheart, good luck! And welcome back! And about that post you had earlier about your drawing . . . you should meet Courtney. She **LOVES** to draw Jake/Razor in all these really wierd situations. Do you all remember the scene in "The Lion King," where Timon asks "Whaddya want me to do, dress in a drag an' do the hula?"? Well, she drew a picture of Razor saying that, and then, on the next page, she did draw him on the hula, someone off the page (probably T-Bone) is saying "Shake those hips, baby!" while he's saying "Oh SHUT UP!" and underneath the entire picture it reads: "Believe me . . . somebody is going to HANG for this!!" Just a little lightner upper on your day. No need to make any sense! >A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please >ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! >"Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club >SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan Supporter of crazy ideas "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 03:56:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id DAA09044 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 03:49:36 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id DAA09039 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 03:49:32 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.48] (dyn1048a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.48]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA08725 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:54:46 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:51:53 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: anime SWAT Kats Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Yeah, but what will we address ourself? > > I'm having trouble seeing as how there could be confusion. My first question is related to my second question. >>Yeah, but will SWAT Kats goes in the anime catagory? > > Nah, SWAT Kats isn't anime. Ok, but will it gone anime? > Answer your question? I sure hope so. Well, I hope that SWAT Kats goes into its own catagory. >Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 12:00:48 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA03630 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 11:38:15 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA03625 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 11:38:12 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA22042; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 10:38:10 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603231638.AA22042@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Nitpicking tonight! To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 10:38:09 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "ARTHUR JOHN FREDA" at Mar 22, 96 08:42:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 785 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > I'm going to start my 2nd Season nitpick guide tonight! Wish me luck that > I find all the little mistakes! > > A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please All right! Finally some nitpicks on their way. Are you going to go for the technical stuff, nitpick the plots, or just about everything? One thing I'd like to see is a list of all the coloring boo-boos. There's not many, especially in comparison to lots of other shows, but there are some. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 15:42:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA17747 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:26:42 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA17728 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:26:19 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA91022; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:26:13 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603232026.AA91022@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: The vortex scene on "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice". To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:26:13 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "ARTHUR JOHN FREDA" at Mar 22, 96 08:32:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 973 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net This morning I finally realized where I had seen graphics similar to this before, the anime Silent Mobius. There's an extended sequence toward the end where one the main characters is in a vortex tunnel much like the one from TPART (Weird acronym, eh?), only this one is much darker. I think a similar effect is used in the original Doctor Who, and I'm sure there are dozens of other instances I'm not remembering or aware of. In the credits of Silent Mobius, "Special Effects" are credited, and nothing else. So, computers are not absolutely necessary for the effect, whatever it may be, and perhaps they've *never* been used for it. If I learn more, I'll post. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 15:59:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA18676 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:48:07 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA18669 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:48:02 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.177] (dyn1177a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.177]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA02836 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 03:49:13 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 03:46:20 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: The vortex scene on "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice". Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Where the TurboKat are *in* the vortex > >And then callie says, "The SWAT Kats! There gone!" (If none of you knew >*what* vortex Edo was talking about.) No, I think Callie said that in "A Bright and Shiny Future" (I don't remember she said that particular line in "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice.). I think she was with Sinian when the Pastmaster send the SwatKats to "Dinosaurville". That vortex scene in "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice" kinda remind me of a cool vortex scene that was produced by the Video Toaster. >A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please >ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! >"Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club >SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in cyberspace, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 15:59:38 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA18187 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:42:46 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA18182 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:42:41 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA26026; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:42:38 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603232042.AA26026@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Has BS&P ever been a problem? To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:42:37 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 998 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net In quite a few instances I've been surprised and relieved by the content of SWAT Kats and how it wasn't softened up, and I have to wonder, how did all of it get by Broadcast Standards and Practices? (Which is oh so appropriately abbreviated *BS*&P) I would think in many instances they would have jumped at ^^ the chance to neuter the Kats. (Sorry, couldn't resist, had to say it.) Did someone at H-B pull some strings, was BS&P asleep at the wheel, or did they come to their senses and let something of quality on to the air for a change? Or am I mistaken and has BS&P *been* a problem and what we see is the end result of they're restrictions? Anybody know more about this? |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 17:54:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA27061 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 17:48:14 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA27054 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 17:48:11 -0500 Received: from sl14.redding.snowcrest.net (sl14.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.78]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA09259 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:03:30 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:03:30 -0800 Message-Id: <199603232303.PAA09259@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Anyone in Phoenix? (very off-topic) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 02:11 PM 3/17/96 EST, you wrote: >Anyone here in Phoenix, Arizona, or somewhere in the same area >code? I'm going on Wednesday and I'd like to call you and meet some >people on the kat's list (LOOK! I MENTIONED KATS!). > > Dr. Jake How about Northern California. Anyone around there? Probably not, oh well! (there will be[hopefully]) _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist who lives in Megakat City Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ "And then I say 'Well duh! the only reason we survived was to take the fate of the world into our hands'" Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 18:14:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA28446 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:06:36 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA28440 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:06:34 -0500 Received: from sl14.redding.snowcrest.net (sl14.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.78]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA09707 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:22:13 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:22:13 -0800 Message-Id: <199603232322.PAA09707@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Fanfic stories (was Re: Children of the Stone (it's up!)) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Oh well, since that everybody is now writing a story, I guess that I won't have to send my story to rat.org now. 'scuse me? What? Uh........ Wait! why not just give it to me and......... no. Then you'd hate me if I put it on for you. Really, you should put it on. Personally, I LOVE to read other people's SWAT Kats fancics and suff (and not my own! [HINT, HINT]). >------------------------------------- >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >"A shining beacon, all alone in the night.................." > "And then you post your story and you are forever known. (HELLO?)" _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist who lives in Megakat City Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ "And then I say 'Well duh! the only reason we survived was to take the fate of the world into our hands'" Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 18:25:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA28580 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:11:59 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA28575 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:11:57 -0500 Received: from sl14.redding.snowcrest.net (sl14.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.78]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA09808 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:27:39 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:27:39 -0800 Message-Id: <199603232327.PAA09808@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Fanfic stories (was Re: Children of the Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Edo wrote: >>Oh well, since that everybody is now writing a story, I guess that I >won't have to send my story to rat.org now. > >DO IT! I DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONLY ONE WRITING GIANT >FANFICTION STORIES (Ryan's excused)! > See, other people besides Terra, and I want to read it. why not just give in and make our lives a little bit better. >SEND IT SEND SEND IT SEND IT SEND IT SEND IT! Ditto! > > Dr. Jake Thanks for excusing me. _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist who lives in Megakat City Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 18:28:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA28671 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:16:48 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA28666 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:16:45 -0500 Received: from sl14.redding.snowcrest.net (sl14.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.78]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA09875 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:32:27 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:32:27 -0800 Message-Id: <199603232332.PAA09875@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Story arc Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Well, I'm not talking about a serial kind of story arc, I was talking about a story arc that where each episode will be able to stand alone, but if the audiences continue to watch the show, then over time a story written on a much larger scale will begin to emerge. > I'm already trying to do that. The SWAT Kats are too good to be left untouched (Don't get any ideas [I mean get some! follow my example! Terra Chang and Dr. Jake are excused. The rest of the universe better do something before I....... I....... I go upstairs and pout in my room! Huh? @^( _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist who lives in Megakat City Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 18:51:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA28921 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:27:54 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA28915 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:27:51 -0500 Received: from sl14.redding.snowcrest.net (sl14.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.78]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA10110 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:43:31 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:43:31 -0800 Message-Id: <199603232343.PAA10110@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: RE: Happy Birthday kats! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Ok, since that the list have already aged one year, I think that we >should >>give us SWAT Kats fans a name, what it will be? > >>Edo > >How about a name for the Fan List, say. . ."The Katalyst?" Oh please! Anything but THAT! _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist who lives in Megakat City Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 18:58:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA29374 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:44:39 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA29369 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:44:37 -0500 Received: from sl14.redding.snowcrest.net (sl14.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.78]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA10474 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:00:18 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:00:18 -0800 Message-Id: <199603240000.QAA10474@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: The vortex scene on "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice". Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 07:03 AM 3/20/96 +0700, you wrote: >Is it a standard animation or a computer animation? > Standard Japaneese (season two, mostly) or Taiwanese animation! _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist who lives in Megakat City Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 19:08:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA29312 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:41:44 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA29307 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:41:40 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA29868; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:47:21 -0500 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:47:21 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Nitpicking tonight! In-Reply-To: <9603231638.AA22042@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I'm mostly focusing on the art/colors, incorrect inking, etc. I'll post the nitpicks for the 3 I did last night, "Mutation City", "Bright and Shiny Future", and "When Strikes Mutilor", later. Oh yeah, new fanfic idea if anyone want to start one. It's called "Mutilor Strikes Back". Okay, okay, It's a play on Star Wars. Maybe mutilor could come back as a ghost? Or maybe he survived the explosion? You decide! A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 19:15:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA29003 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:31:14 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA28998 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:31:11 -0500 Received: from sl14.redding.snowcrest.net (sl14.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.78]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA10178 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:46:54 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:46:54 -0800 Message-Id: <199603232346.PAA10178@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: A name for SWAT Kats fans Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Edo wrote: >>Ok, since that the list have already aged one year, I think that we should give us SWAT Kats fans a name, what it >will be? > >Mitch wrote: >>Katsters Mabye >>Kat_fans Not good enough, sorry. >>Kat_Masters That wourk >>Kat_a_logers Funny, but get a LIFE! (No wait! forget the name, but stay like you are now!) >> >>Here a four for a start > >How about "Kats"? I think that is a good one. > >>Mitch Botwin > >------------------------------------- >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >"A shining beacon, all alone in the night." > > > > _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist who lives in Megakat City Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 19:25:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA28093 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 17:54:44 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA28086 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 17:54:42 -0500 Received: from sl14.redding.snowcrest.net (sl14.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.78]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA09452 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:10:23 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:10:23 -0800 Message-Id: <199603232310.PAA09452@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: H-B Lives! & Kats Animation Art Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Don't ask me where Swat Kats falls in this whole deal because I have no idea. With Ted charge? Probably nowhere! along with anything else (If any) goon that TedCo ever made because Ted cancels all the good stuff! > >They are NOT changing the name in front of our oh-so-colorful building. > EXPLAIN PLEASE........... (Do you mean yo work at H-B or something??) >ALSO -- Re: Kats Animation Art -- > >I am in discussion with our Animation Art dept. to see if I can work a special >deal on those Kats cels for our list members. Don't get your hopes up, but if >something comes up, I'll post again. Too late, oh well! > >I will now return to my "lurker" status...Love to all! No! NO! Don't go! (Don't leave me! [Why did I just say that? 8^( ]) _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist who lives in Megakat City Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ "And then I say 'Well duh! the only reason we survived was to take the fate of the world into our hands'" Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 19:25:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA02004 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 19:08:25 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA01999 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 19:08:22 -0500 Received: from sl14.redding.snowcrest.net (sl14.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.78]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA10995 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:24:06 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:24:06 -0800 Message-Id: <199603240024.QAA10995@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Mucks, Muds, & Moos Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >I'm just curious how many Kat fans are also involved with the Mucks (like >Furtoonia)? >I know that Dana, Walt, and myself have Kat identities when role-playing.. >anyone else? > What and where is the Mucks? I'd like to get on whatever it is! > -Matt (Purrcy on FT) > > _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist who lives in Megakat City Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 19:31:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA01894 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 19:02:01 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA01889 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 19:01:59 -0500 Received: from sl14.redding.snowcrest.net (sl14.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.78]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA10795 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:17:43 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:17:43 -0800 Message-Id: <199603240017.QAA10795@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: anime callie Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 03:55 PM 3/20/96 -0500, you wrote: >Ok, you all asked for it, I have found an anime callie with big eyes, >etc. in "Mutation City" Where she is jumping anound on the cars above the >muck. Looks like mook made a boo-boo! What boo-boo? It's a typical Japanese Steroertype! Huge hair and large eyes. Any anime movie proves this! (Besides, I think it's cool!) @@8^) _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist who lives in Megakat City Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 19:31:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA02264 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 19:16:36 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA02259 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 19:16:34 -0500 Received: from sl14.redding.snowcrest.net (sl14.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.78]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA11208 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:32:13 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:32:13 -0800 Message-Id: <199603240032.QAA11208@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Nitpicking tonight! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I'm going to start my 2nd Season nitpick guide tonight! Wish me luck that >I find all the little mistakes! Start with Cry Turmoil. That has a lot of color mistakes. It's still good, though. _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist who lives in Megakat City Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 19:39:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA28225 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 17:59:43 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA28220 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 17:59:41 -0500 Received: from sl14.redding.snowcrest.net (sl14.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.78]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA09584 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:15:22 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:15:22 -0800 Message-Id: <199603232315.PAA09584@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Anyone in Phoenix? (off-topic) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Anyone here in Phoenix, Arizona, or somewhere in the same area >>code? I'm going on Wednesday and I'd like to call you and meet some >>people on the kat's list (LOOK! I MENTIONED KATS!). >> >> Dr. Jake > >Ooooh, sorry D.J., I live in Austin Texas. Don't think I'd like to go to >Arizona though--I'm more of a cold-weather type person. >(But that would be cool . . . meeting all the people who write crazy ideas, >write stories (hint, hint) and so on. Anyone live in Texas ('sides me?) No, Northern California. Right around this city that's got NOTHING kats in the whole @$#! place! >8^( . >Supporter of crazy ideas like my go to bed quicker by counting baby ducks jumping over hotdogs and into a bowl of tapioce and bumblebees? COOL! _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist who lives in Megakat City Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ "And then I say 'Well duh! the only reason we survived was to take the fate of the world into our hands'" Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 19:41:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA29200 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:39:29 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA29195 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:39:26 -0500 Received: from sl14.redding.snowcrest.net (sl14.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.78]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA10358 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:55:09 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:55:09 -0800 Message-Id: <199603232355.PAA10358@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Fanfic stories (was Re: Children of the Stone (it's up!)) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Oh well, since that everybody is now writing a story, I guess that I won't >have to send my story to rat.org now. > >ACK!!!! NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO!!!!!!!! Send it, please!! (If not, I >mean it, I'll go on strike! And I've got a really cool story started . . . >not to mention I'm gonna try copying a story from paper again . . .) > Send it! send it! Look what you did to this poor girl! depriving he of her SWAT Kats (That's one of the most evil acts ever!) > >SENDITSENDITSENDITSENDITSENDITSENDITSENDITSENDITSENDITSENDITSENDITSNEITSHERISNF >(Sorry, kinda got carried away . . . ) I'm near that point myself, so don't feel (that) bad. >Send it! Pretty pretty please with a cherry on top and sugar (sugar!!) and >all that really nice junk? and anything else sweet? Look at this cute face: 8^(( can you just say that and let her cry like that, uh....... this? *8^(( WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! You can make her look like this: *8^) Everyone, take my advice and....... well, you know. (Terra Chang has no relation to that sad face, but send your stuff anyway!) _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist who lives in Megakat City Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 19:43:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA02152 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 19:11:45 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA02147 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 19:11:43 -0500 Received: from sl14.redding.snowcrest.net (sl14.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.78]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA11075 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:27:27 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:27:27 -0800 Message-Id: <199603240027.QAA11075@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Name for SWAT Kats fans. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Nah, I'm just not seeing it. Howsabout Megafans, That's PERFECT! >> The Radicals, or Katphiles? I *do* kind of like just Kats fans, but a variation of >>that might be Kat fans (singular) No, I got it! The Anti-Teds! Anti-Teds? decisions decisions. > >Well, how about just plain "Kats"? ot "Kat" (singular)? I like Megafans, Anti-Teds, and Kats. Anyone support me, here? _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist who lives in Megakat City Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 19:50:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA02198 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 19:13:58 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA02192 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 19:13:56 -0500 Received: from sl14.redding.snowcrest.net (sl14.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.78]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA11122 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:29:41 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:29:41 -0800 Message-Id: <199603240029.QAA11122@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: anime SWAT Kats Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 06:13 AM 3/22/96 +0700, you wrote: >>>>Well, if SWAT Kats are becoming more like anime, us SWAT Kats fans are going >>>>to have an identity crisis, should we call ourself anime fans or Kats? Personally, I'm an anime and SWAT Kat extremist. I consider SWAT Kats as anime. >>>Why do we have to limit ourselves to one type of fan or another. We can be >>>both anime fans and Kats. That would work. _______________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley SWAT Kats Extremist who lives in Megakat City Good thing you can't see me in person!! _______________________________________ "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 21:27:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA09590 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 21:17:31 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA09581 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 21:17:28 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.167] (dyn1167a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.167]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09965 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 09:18:41 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 09:15:48 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Name for SWAT Kats fans. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I like Megafans, Anti-Teds, and Kats. Anyone support me, here? Hmmm, how about this? Megafans is the name for SWAT Kats fans extremist. Kats is the name for SWAT Kats fans. Both Kats and Megafans are Anti-Teds. BTW, I think that I just figure out the "Kats and anime fans" thing, Kats are in the anime fans community. IF we consider SWAT Kats as an anime. >_______________________________________ >Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley >SWAT Kats Extremist who lives in Megakat City >Good thing you can't see me in person!! >_______________________________________ ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in cyberspace, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 21:32:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA09584 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 21:17:29 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA09575 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 21:17:24 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.167] (dyn1167a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.167]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09962 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 09:18:38 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 09:15:44 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Feral and the Dark Side (The original Cry Turmoil) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net chance wrote: >>The writer intended it to be a statement that Feral could be a bad >>Kat under the right set of circumstances, and that a combination of >>"underappreciation" in MCPD and the opportunity presented by >>Turmoil provided those circumstances. Ed wrote: >I just can't see this at all. Regardless of underappreciation and >opportunity, Feral would never switch sides like that. It just goes >against his basic character. He might pretend to go along, like >T-Bone did, but would never mean it. For those like Feral, "protect >and serve" is not just a motto, but a way of life, soething that's >an inextricable part of them. It's along the lines of Hudson's >comment in the Gargoyles episode "Reawakening": "A Gargoyle can no >more stop protecting his home than breathing the air." That's how I >read Feral. Same here, I also think that Feral would never betray the Enforcer, no= matter how bad on what they do to him,and I think that in "Metal Urgency"= he already said that he doesn't do deals with scum. Besides, what would= Felina say if she found out that her favorite uncle has gone bad? Now if it's Steel, that could turn out very different indeed, but then= again, why do Turmoil want him? Plot idea: =46eral and Steel is flying the helicopter (With Feral on the controls of= course) fighting Turmoil's air carrier, Turmoil is curious on who is flying= that chopper, so she ordered her crew to take out that chopper and drag it= to the carrier. Feral and Steel were knocked out by the vertigo beam, and= the rest is just like the final version, except Steel is in the place of T-= Bone. Now, what will happen next? >>The writer was told "the show is about the Kat Guys; don't overdevelop the= =20 >>supporting cast" and the role was swapped from Feral to T-Bone, and the ep= isode >>shrunk to a short. It took a lot of convincing to get Falk to write= another script. > >That's an annoyingly myopic POV. In any well-developed series there >are going to be eps that study the character of the supporting >players. Maybe not to this degree, but close. To concentrate the >show only on our heroes leads to stagnation. Yeah, just because the series is named SWAT Kats, it doesn't mean that we= have to watch the guys all the time >Then again, it _is_ TedCo... > >Ed ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in cyberspace, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 23 22:25:38 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA13213 for kats-ll; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 22:19:19 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA13208 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 22:19:15 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.130] (dyn1130a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.130]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA11908 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 10:20:25 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 10:17:36 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: anime callie Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >At 03:55 PM 3/20/96 -0500, you wrote: >>Ok, you all asked for it, I have found an anime callie with big eyes, >>etc. in "Mutation City" Where she is jumping anound on the cars above the >>muck. Looks like mook made a boo-boo! > >What boo-boo? It's a typical Japanese Steroertype! That's why it's a boo-boo, they aren't supposed to make a Japanese animation. Oh well, at least it's a nice boo-boo. >Huge hair and large eyes. >Any anime movie proves this! (Besides, I think it's cool!) @@8^) Well, to quote a particular ambassador I know, "One moment of perfect beauty." >_______________________________________ >Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley >SWAT Kats Extremist who lives in Megakat City >Good thing you can't see me in person!! >_______________________________________ ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in cyberspace, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 24 00:50:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA28108 for kats-ll; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 00:40:36 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA28103 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 00:40:34 -0500 Received: from sl39.redding.snowcrest.net (sl39.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.135]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA18296 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 21:56:29 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 21:56:29 -0800 Message-Id: <199603240556.VAA18296@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Giyggas Subject: Re: Name for SWAT Kats fans. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>I like Megafans, Anti-Teds, and Kats. Anyone support me, here? > >Hmmm, how about this? > >Megafans is the name for SWAT Kats fans extremist. >Kats is the name for SWAT Kats fans. > >Both Kats and Megafans are Anti-Teds. > >BTW, I think that I just figure out the "Kats and anime fans" thing, Kats are in the anime fans community. IF we consider SWAT >Kats as an anime. That works. If SWAT Kats is your life, you're a Megafan (like me!) If you actually HAVE a life outside this one and only show, you're a Kats fan (or Kat) And since SWAT Kats animation is anime, which automatically makes it entirly Japanese (without dubbing or subtitling) animation, we're all anime fans. The two worlds are seperated by only a fine line. ___________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley (Giyggas to Ted Turner) SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan Good thing you can't see me in person!! ___________________________________________________ "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 24 00:55:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA28129 for kats-ll; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 00:42:30 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA28124 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 00:42:28 -0500 Received: from sl39.redding.snowcrest.net (sl39.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.135]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA18320 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 21:58:23 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 21:58:23 -0800 Message-Id: <199603240558.VAA18320@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: anime callie Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>Ok, you all asked for it, I have found an anime callie with big eyes, >>>etc. in "Mutation City" Where she is jumping anound on the cars above the >>>muck. Looks like mook made a boo-boo! >> >>What boo-boo? It's a typical Japanese Steroertype! > >That's why it's a boo-boo, they aren't supposed to make a Japanese animation. Oh well, at least it's a nice boo-boo. Well, I think she looks more attractave anime style! ___________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley (Giyggas to Ted Turner) SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan Good thing you can't see me in person!! ___________________________________________________ "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 24 02:16:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA03907 for kats-ll; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 02:06:32 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA03902 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 02:06:29 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.96] (dyn1096a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.96]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18130 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 14:07:39 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 14:04:45 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: anime callie Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>>Ok, you all asked for it, I have found an anime callie with big eyes, >>>>etc. in "Mutation City" Where she is jumping anound on the cars above the >>>>muck. Looks like mook made a boo-boo! >>> >>>What boo-boo? It's a typical Japanese Steroertype! >> >>That's why it's a boo-boo, they aren't supposed to make a Japanese >>animation. Oh well, at least it's a nice boo-boo. > >Well, I think she looks more attractave anime style! Ahhh.... beautiful.... I will miss this... when it is gone. >___________________________________________________ >Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley (Giyggas to Ted Turner) >SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan >Good thing you can't see me in person!! >___________________________________________________ ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in cyberspace, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 24 04:25:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id EAA10266 for kats-ll; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 04:01:29 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id EAA10259 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 04:01:26 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.198] (dyn1198a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.198]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA20742 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 16:02:38 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 15:59:45 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: The vortex scene on "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice". Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >At 07:03 AM 3/20/96 +0700, you wrote: >>Is it a standard animation or a computer animation? >> >Standard Japaneese (season two, mostly) or Taiwanese animation! Isn't Mook the one that draw for the "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice" episode? >_______________________________________ >Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley >SWAT Kats Extremist who lives in Megakat City >Good thing you can't see me in person!! >_______________________________________ ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in cyberspace, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 24 04:33:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id EAA10271 for kats-ll; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 04:01:31 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id EAA10265 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 04:01:28 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.198] (dyn1198a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.198]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA20746 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 16:02:42 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 15:59:49 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Name for SWAT Kats fans. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>BTW, I think that I just figure out the "Kats and anime fans" thing, Kats >>are in the anime fans community. IF we consider SWAT Kats as an anime. >And since SWAT Kats animation is anime, which automatically makes it >entirly Japanese (without dubbing or subtitling) animation, we're all >anime fans. >The two worlds are seperated by only a fine line. Ahhh... lines and curves...The basic components of the SWAT Kats universe. Aren't they wonderful? >___________________________________________________ >Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley (Giyggas to Ted Turner) >SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan >Good thing you can't see me in person!! >___________________________________________________ ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in cyberspace, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 24 10:04:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA27351 for kats-ll; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 09:49:48 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA27341 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 09:49:41 -0500 Received: from net-1-038.austin.eden.com (net-1-038.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.38]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id IAA04366 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 08:49:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 08:49:39 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603241449.IAA04366@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Name for SWAT Kats fans. X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Well, how about just plain "Kats"? ot "Kat" (singular)? > >I like Megafans, Anti-Teds, and Kats. Anyone support me, here? I support "Kats." I always used it, and I think I said this before, but no matter what every one else decides on, I am going to refer to myself as a Kat. _______________________________________ >Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley >SWAT Kats Extremist who lives in Megakat City >Good thing you can't see me in person!! >_______________________________________ >"Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." > >Snoopy? Yes, Snoopy. (Sorry, I had to do that.) Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan Supporter of crazy ideas "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 24 12:15:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA05340 for kats-ll; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 11:57:27 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA05335 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 11:57:24 -0500 Received: from net-1-038.austin.eden.com (net-1-038.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.38]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id KAA08662 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 10:57:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 10:57:21 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603241657.KAA08662@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Whaddya think of this {story} idea? X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Seeing as how some of us are having some minature disscussions about stories, I was thinking. (I'm in the middle of writing one, this is basically what the post is about.) I am writing a story that takes place in "A Bright and Shiny Future" universe, with a few modifications. I am going to basically make it a different version of "Future," changed around a little. The title is, tenatively, "SWAT Kats: Refugees." I am using some characters that you will probably see again in my later stories, just changed slightly. If you think you would like for me to branch out on this story, please e-me. If you guys would like, I can post a character guide for each of the new characters I used in this story. If I do, I would suggest you keep it, 'cause you'll see 'em again in later tales from my twisted thoughts. Oh yeah, and one more thing: What are we gonna do about the RPG idea I had a while ago? Are we doing it or not? (Hello, Chance? Where are you?) Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan Supporter of crazy ideas "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 24 17:47:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA24171 for kats-ll; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 17:37:33 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA24164 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 17:37:29 -0500 Received: from sl13.redding.snowcrest.net (sl13.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.77]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA26509 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 14:53:57 -0800 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 14:53:57 -0800 Message-Id: <199603242253.OAA26509@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Whaddya think of this {story} idea? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Seeing as how some of us are having some minature disscussions about >stories, I was thinking. (I'm in the middle of writing one, this is >basically what the post is about.) >I am writing a story that takes place in "A Bright and Shiny Future" >universe, with a few modifications. I am going to basically make it a >different version of "Future," changed around a little. The title is, >tenatively, "SWAT Kats: Refugees." I am using some characters that you will >probably see again in my later stories, just changed slightly. >If you think you would like for me to branch out on this story, please e-me. >If you guys would like, I can post a character guide for each of the new >characters I used in this story. If I do, I would suggest you keep it, >'cause you'll see 'em again in later tales from my twisted thoughts. > If you start a story, chances are it's the coolest thing ever. Whatever it's about, you should post it (HAVE YOU LEARNED NOTHING [from my screaming?]) >Oh yeah, and one more thing: What are we gonna do about the RPG idea I had a >while ago? Are we doing it or not? (Hello, Chance? Where are you?) > Well, I and my friend will....... but OTHER PEOPLE need to help us, here (HELLO?) Hey, it's Jedi Master Wheeler here, reading B-Ko's Mail It's Giyggas (B-ko, Snoopy, whoever!)! whatever! Well, I'd be glad to help on a SWAT Kats RPG... Is it going to be a board (bored) game... What about one of those Customizable Card Games like Magic: The Gathering and Star Wars.... Or is it going to be a text or graphical computer game? If it's a CCG, I could help with design advice (I play both Magic and Star Wars, and now am learning Marvel OverPower.) A SW: tRS (SWATKATS: The Radical Squadrone acronym) trading card game would ROCK! I am in the process of talking to Central Park Media (who puts out English translations of anime like Project A-Ko, MD Giest, etc., etc., etc....) about them starting a manga/anime CCG. If anyone would like to help me, E-Mail me at... louallen.wheeler@fatal.com Heeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee'''' '''''''''''sssssssssssssssssss GIYGGAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He still needs a little work to program all the bugs out of his system. Don't worry! I'll finish my brainwashing class soon! (he, he!) ___________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley (Giyggas to Ted Turner) SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan Good thing you can't see me in person!! ___________________________________________________ "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 24 18:02:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA25456 for kats-ll; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 17:52:52 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA25432 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 17:52:47 -0500 Received: from sl13.redding.snowcrest.net (sl13.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.77]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA26903 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 15:09:17 -0800 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 15:09:17 -0800 Message-Id: <199603242309.PAA26903@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Name for SWAT Kats fans. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 08:49 AM 3/24/96 -0600, you wrote: >>>Well, how about just plain "Kats"? ot "Kat" (singular)? >> >>I like Megafans, Anti-Teds, and Kats. Anyone support me, here? >Hey, Jedi Louie Wheeler here... My idea was that we'd call ourselves "The Katalysts'." You know... Like the phrase that Public Television is soo fonda' "...a catalyst for change..." I think the name is pretty good. It suits what our purpose of the list\group\fanclub is for... To get Turner to put back on SWATKats: The Radical Squadrone. Okay, okay... I'll go... But as a not-so-wise person once said... "Rant\Rave Mode off... Stepping down from soap box now..." "It's not whether you win or... Okay, okay; maybe it is..." --A. Hitler; Taken from One Must Fall docs >I support "Kats." I always used it, and I think I said this before, but no >matter what every one else decides on, I am going to refer to myself as a >Kat. I think that the idea of: If SWAT Kats is your life, you're called a Megafan. If you actually HAVE a life, you're a Kat fan, Kat, or Katalyst, depending on what you want to call yourselves (SWAT Kats is my life [I pity everyone else who don't share my fate!]) Boo! Hisss! ACK!!!! Barf!!! Hurl!!! GAG!!!!! Thump!!! He died from disgust of the thought of what was mention above... Oh, well... His loss!!!!! >>"Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." True! >> >>Snoopy? > >Yes, Snoopy. (Sorry, I had to do that.) > 'Sokay! I comment on yours alla time!! > >Terra Chang: >writer and poet >crazy violinist >SWAT Kats lover >Anne Rice fan >Supporter of crazy ideas > >"I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. >Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" > > > ___________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley (Giyggas to Ted Turner) SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan Good thing you can't see me in person!! ___________________________________________________ "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 24 18:22:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA26109 for kats-ll; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 18:00:04 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA26092 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 18:00:01 -0500 Received: from sl13.redding.snowcrest.net (sl13.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.77]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA27084 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 15:16:27 -0800 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 15:16:27 -0800 Message-Id: <199603242316.PAA27084@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: The vortex scene on "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice". Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>Is it a standard animation or a computer animation? >>> >>Standard Japaneese (season two, mostly) or Taiwanese animation! > >Isn't Mook the one that draw for the "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice" episode? > > Yeah. They're very capable! ___________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley (Giyggas to Ted Turner) SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan Good thing you can't see me in person!! ___________________________________________________ "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 24 18:23:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA25842 for kats-ll; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 17:54:29 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA25831 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 17:54:23 -0500 Received: from net-1-045.austin.eden.com (net-1-045.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.45]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA23445 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 16:54:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 16:54:13 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603242254.QAA23445@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Whaddya think of this {story} idea? X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >If you start a story, chances are it's the coolest thing ever. Whatever it's >about, you should post it (HAVE YOU LEARNED NOTHING [from my screaming?]) I have. Believe me. I learned that it costs a lot more to buy earplugs than I thought it did. >>Oh yeah, and one more thing: What are we gonna do about the RPG idea I had a >>while ago? Are we doing it or not? (Hello, Chance? Where are you?) >> >Well, I and my friend will....... but OTHER PEOPLE need to help us, here >(HELLO?) > Hey, it's Jedi Master Wheeler here, reading B-Ko's Mail > > It's Giyggas (B-ko, Snoopy, whoever!)! I'd be lying if I said I understood that . . . > whatever! Well, I'd be glad to help on a SWAT Kats RPG... Is it >going to be a board (bored) game... What about one of those Customizable >Card Games like Magic: The Gathering and Star Wars.... Or is it going to be >a text or graphical computer game? If it's a CCG, I could help with design >advice (I play both Magic and Star Wars, and now am learning Marvel >OverPower.) A SW: tRS (SWATKATS: The Radical Squadrone acronym) trading >card game would ROCK! I am in the process of talking to Central Park Media >(who puts out English translations of anime like Project A-Ko, MD Giest, >etc., etc., etc....) about them starting a manga/anime CCG. If anyone >would like to help me, E-Mail me at... > louallen.wheeler@fatal.com Well, I was thinking more of what they do in other mailing lists. Y'know, we take on the identity of our character, then sorta write from their POV. (A really good example of what I mean is at the Black Rose's site. And even though it *is* A.R., it's got an example of what I mean. Look under Role Playing Games in her archieve. The adress is: http://www.eskimo.com~ash/archive.html) Check it out if you don't understand my RPG idea. What you find there will give you the gist of it. > Heeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee'''' >'''''''''''sssssssssssssssssss > > > GIYGGAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! who the hell is Giyggas? > He still >needs a little work to program all the bugs out of his system. Don't worry! >I'll finish my brainwashing class soon! (he, he!) Good. Use it on Ted, okay? Tell him "You must bring the kats back . . . you must bring the kats back . . . YOU MUST BRING THE KATS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >___________________________________________________ >Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley (Giyggas to Ted Turner) >SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan >Good thing you can't see me in person!! >___________________________________________________ >"Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." > >Snoopy? Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan Supporter of crazy ideas "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 24 18:30:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA27450 for kats-ll; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 18:12:45 -0500 Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA27445 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 18:12:43 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA24514 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 18:11:21 -0500 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:11:22 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <096.04305102.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Drawn kat pics Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I'm back from vacation! (for those who missed it, I was in Phoenix). I hoped everyone liked the little "going away present" I sent out! There was no TCN down there (there isn't any here, either, but I do have VCR tapes at home), so NO SKS--oh well, I brought some color printouts of pics I pulled from the rat site and Max's site. Anyone out there drawing SKs in wierd positions (that HAS a scanner)? One of my favorite pastimes. I have drawings of Thoran, Felina as a gargoyle, Chip, Jumicus, and Jake as a 40-year-old with a beard (BOY DOES HE LOOK LIKE HACKLE!). DRAWING RULES! Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 24 19:17:38 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA00559 for kats-ll; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 18:59:33 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA00533 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 18:59:18 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA18940; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 17:59:06 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603242359.AA18940@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Name for SWAT Kats fans. To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 17:59:05 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199603240027.QAA11075@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> from "Ryan Kelley" at Mar 23, 96 04:27:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 803 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >>Nah, I'm just not seeing it. > Howsabout Megafans, > > That's PERFECT! Hey, Glad you like it! > >Well, how about just plain "Kats"? ot "Kat" (singular)? > > I like Megafans, Anti-Teds, and Kats. Anyone support me, here? I know some folks will hate my guts for saying this, but: I am not a Kat, I am a human being! I've always thought of Kats just as those furry people in the show, but I'm not one of them, just an admirer. > Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 24 19:26:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA00946 for kats-ll; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 19:14:54 -0500 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA00941 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 19:14:52 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with SMTP id TAA08313 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 19:14:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA55614; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 18:12:47 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603250012.AA55614@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Name for SWAT Kats fans. To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 18:12:46 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at Mar 24, 96 09:15:48 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Hmmm, how about this? > > Megafans is the name for SWAT Kats fans extremist. > Kats is the name for SWAT Kats fans. > > Both Kats and Megafans are Anti-Teds. Sounds about right. But it's interesting that plain old Kats Fans get to actually say "Kats" in reference to themselves, while "Megafans" sounds cryptic to those outside of the established Kats Fans community. But then if Megafans really *are* extremist SWAT Kats Fans, then they likely hate and wouldn't talk to anyone who isn't a Kats Fan. And yet another thing to consider is the possibility of a Kats fan with first name of Ted - It would sound like the Kats Fans hate him instead of the other, despicable Ted. The extremists would probably suggest he change his name, but the more moderates would be faced with a dilemma. Gee, I really didn't think this through when I came up with the term. I'll make things more complicated by tossing out another name: MegaKatsfan > BTW, I think that I just figure out the "Kats and anime fans" thing, Kats are in the anime fans community. IF we consider SWAT Kats as an anime. Go back and read my post, I thought I cleared up all this. > >Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley > > Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 24 19:36:29 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA01266 for kats-ll; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 19:26:00 -0500 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA01261 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 19:25:59 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with SMTP id TAA09445 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 19:25:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA54634; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 18:24:00 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603250024.AA54634@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: The vortex scene on "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice". To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 18:24:00 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at Mar 24, 96 03:59:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >Standard Japaneese (season two, mostly) or Taiwanese animation! > > Isn't Mook the one that draw for the "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice" episod e? Mook did animate TPART (What I consider the first season's best), but something that needs to be cleared up (I think in the FAQ as well.) is that Hanho is not a Taiwanese studio, they're Korean, right? Some time ago the nationality got mixed up and folks (Including me for a long while) have been confused ever since. > Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 24 19:45:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA01102 for kats-ll; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 19:20:30 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA01097 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 19:20:26 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA55402; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 18:20:15 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603250020.AA55402@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: anime callie To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 18:20:15 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at Mar 24, 96 02:04:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1117 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>>muck. Looks like mook made a boo-boo! >>> >>>What boo-boo? It's a typical Japanese Steroertype! >> >>That's why it's a boo-boo, they aren't supposed to make a Japanese >>animation. Oh well, at least it's a nice boo-boo. Well, Mook is a Japanese animation studio, so they can't really help but make Japanese animation. The question is whether Callie is to have Tezuka eyes, and some other anime-like features, and if so to what extent? And whose to say that the storyboards and layouts didn't look that way to begin with? >Well, I think she looks more attractave anime style! Callie has had so many different appearances in SWAT Kats that you have to pick just *which* anime-like style? I still choose The Deadly Pyramind as her best. >Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley (Giyggas to Ted Turner) |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 24 20:13:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA04018 for kats-ll; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 19:57:47 -0500 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA04013 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 19:57:45 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with SMTP id TAA13436 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 19:51:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA73400; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 18:48:37 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603250048.AA73400@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Let's clear this up. To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 18:48:37 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at Mar 24, 96 03:59:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>BTW, I think that I just figure out the "Kats and anime fans" thing, Kats >>are in the anime fans community. IF we consider SWAT Kats as an anime. >And since SWAT Kats animation is anime, which automatically makes it >entirly Japanese (without dubbing or subtitling) animation, we're all >anime fans. No, SWAT Kats *isn't* anime, and just because something is Japanese animated, that doesn't mean it's anime, otherwise Tiny Toon Adventures, for instance, could be considered anime. I've known some people to use anime to mean anything animated and cool, but that't not it. I've already said what anime *really* means, stick to that. (BTW, I mispelled a name, that's Helen *McCarthy*.) What SWAT Kats is is an animated action adventure series made primarily for American (And I 'spose Canadian) audiences which happens to utilize Japanese animation and many stylings adopted and emulated from anime, but it is *not* anime, just anime-like. When I have an itch, I scratch it! >Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley (Giyggas to Ted Turner) |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 24 20:59:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA04971 for kats-ll; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 20:37:06 -0500 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com (emout08.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.23]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA04966 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 20:37:04 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA02244 for kats@bort.mv.net; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 20:36:48 -0500 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 20:36:48 -0500 Message-ID: <960324203647_453906318@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Nitpicking tonight! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>I'm going to start my 2nd Season nitpick guide tonight! Wish me luck that >>I find all the little mistakes! > >Okay, sweetheart, good luck! And welcome back! And about that post you had >earlier about your drawing . . . you should meet Courtney. She **LOVES** to >draw Jake/Razor in all these really wierd situations. Do you all remember >the scene in "The Lion King," where Timon asks "Whaddya want me to do, dress >in a drag an' do the hula?"? Well, she drew a picture of Razor saying that, >and then, on the next page, she did draw him on the hula, someone off the >page (probably T-Bone) is saying "Shake those hips, baby!" while he's saying >"Oh SHUT UP!" and underneath the entire picture it reads: > "Believe me . . . somebody is going to HANG for this!!" >Just a little lightner upper on your day. No need to make any sense! Excuse me while I get this outta my system.(HAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! HA! HAAAAAAAAAAA! HA! rfdga3q B5325 HA!! N7654WN tujhiyre bgtaui htrebvioHAAAAAAAA!! HAAA! HA!).That sure put a wierd picture in my mind! OK, sorry. I feel better now. Anyway, I draw wierd things too. I drew both Jake & Chance as young kittens, and hope to get 'em scanned soon (I don't have a scanner myself, but someone I know is scannin' them fer me. I hope to get a scanner soon, though!). I also draw pictures of my own character (on FT) in different positions, and if you look at any one of my math papers, there's all kinds of sketches in the margins . Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa Anne Kris on FT >>A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please >>ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! >>"Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club >>SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS > > >Terra Chang: >writer and poet >crazy violinist >SWAT Kats lover >Anne Rice fan >Supporter of crazy ideas > >"I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. >Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 24 22:15:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA11138 for kats-ll; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 21:58:57 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA11133 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 21:58:53 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.61] (dyn1061a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.61]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21733 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 10:00:06 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:57:13 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Name for SWAT Kats fans. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Gee, I really didn't think this through when I came up with the >term. I'll make things more complicated by tossing out another name: >MegaKatsfan Too long. >> BTW, I think that I just figure out the "Kats and anime fans" thing, Kats are >in the anime fans community. IF we consider SWAT Kats as an anime. > > Go back and read my post, I thought I cleared up all >this. Well, here is my definition on anime: Anime is an animation that was drawn by Japanese artist or an animation that share some characteristic of an anime. >>Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id > >Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 24 22:31:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA11166 for kats-ll; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 21:59:23 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA11160 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 21:59:20 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.61] (dyn1061a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.61]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21784 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 10:00:34 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:57:41 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Name for SWAT Kats fans. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> I like Megafans, Anti-Teds, and Kats. Anyone support me, here? > > I know some folks will hate my guts for saying this, but: > > I am not a Kat, I am a human being! You should see me talk at IRC. > I've always thought of Kats just as those furry people in the show, but I'm >not one of them, just an admirer. Well, Kats is a definition for people that are fans of the cartoon show that named "SWAT Kats: The Radical Squadron" (If we finaly agree on this thing.), they don't have to have furs, tail, or even funny looking ear. >>Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley > >Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in cyberspace, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 24 22:40:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA11152 for kats-ll; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 21:59:14 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA11142 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 21:59:11 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.61] (dyn1061a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.61]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21744 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 10:00:09 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:57:32 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: anime callie Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Well, Mook is a Japanese animation studio, so they can't really help but >make Japanese animation. The question is whether Callie is to have Tezuka >eyes, and some other anime-like features, and if so to what extent? And whose >to say that the storyboards and layouts didn't look that way to begin with? Hey, those are my question! >>Well, I think she looks more attractave anime style! > > Callie has had so many different appearances in SWAT Kats that you have to >pick just *which* anime-like style? I still choose The Deadly Pyramind as her >best. Well, I never like on how she look in "The Deadly Pyramid". >>Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley (Giyggas to Ted Turner) > >Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in cyberspace, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 25 00:31:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA28040 for kats-ll; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 00:25:32 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA28029 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 00:25:29 -0500 Received: from sl33.redding.snowcrest.net (sl33.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.129]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA06361 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 21:42:13 -0800 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 21:42:13 -0800 Message-Id: <199603250542.VAA06361@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Whaddya think of this {story} idea? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> Hey, it's Jedi Master Wheeler here, reading B-Ko's Mail >> >> It's Giyggas (B-ko, Snoopy, whoever!)! > >I'd be lying if I said I understood that . . . Well, I'd be lying if I understood even half of what my friend says! >Well, I was thinking more of what they do in other mailing lists. Y'know, we >take on the identity of our character, then sorta write from their POV. So I got screwed up. That would be even cooler! >(A really good example of what I mean is at the Black Rose's site. And even >though it *is* A.R., it's got an example of what I mean. Look under Role >Playing Games in her archieve. The adress is: >http://www.eskimo.com~ash/archive.html) Check it out if you don't understand >my RPG idea. What you find there will give you the gist of it. > >> Heeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee'''' >>'''''''''''sssssssssssssssssss >> >> >> GIYGGAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >who the hell is Giyggas? I am known as Giyggas to Ted. So far, I know his name is probably NOT part of his E-Mail address. What in the hell IS his address anyway? > >> He still >>needs a little work to program all the bugs out of his system. Don't worry! >>I'll finish my brainwashing class soon! (he, he!) > >Good. Use it on Ted, okay? Tell him "You must bring the kats back . . . you >must bring the kats back . . . YOU MUST BRING THE KATS >BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just let me be their savior! (Casshan. I want to be like Casshan! [He's a white robot android who saves humanity from the hollocaust like yoke of robot rule in the movie Casshan-Robot Hunter]) ___________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley (Giyggas to Ted Turner) SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan Good thing you can't see me in person!! ___________________________________________________ "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 25 00:44:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA28276 for kats-ll; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 00:34:36 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA28271 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 00:34:33 -0500 Received: from sl33.redding.snowcrest.net (sl33.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.129]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA06604 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 21:51:19 -0800 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 21:51:19 -0800 Message-Id: <199603250551.VAA06604@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Let's clear this up. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > No, SWAT Kats *isn't* anime, and just because something is Japanese >animated, that doesn't mean it's anime, otherwise Tiny Toon Adventures, for >instance, could be considered anime. I've known some people to use anime >to mean anything animated and cool, but that't not it. I've already said what >anime *really* means, stick to that. (BTW, I mispelled a name, that's Helen >*McCarthy*.) > Not to burst your bubble, but I just think that SWAT Kats is due to that American cartoons don't have such shading, and esides, the plots can get almost as complex as some of the anime I've seen. It's pretty much what you think is anime. It's up to each individual to decide wether this hybrid is mostly American, or in the broad specturm of Anime. Either place, there's something to drag it to the other side. > > When I have an itch, I scratch it! > Don't we all? ___________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley (Giyggas to Ted Turner) SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan Good thing you can't see me in person!! ___________________________________________________ "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." Snoopy? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 25 07:51:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id HAA21642 for kats-ll; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:46:17 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA21637 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:46:14 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA05510; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:51:59 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:51:59 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Name for SWAT Kats fans. In-Reply-To: <199603241449.IAA04366@natashya.eden.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sun, 24 Mar 1996, Terra Chang wrote: > I support "Kats." I always used it, and I think I said this before, but no > matter what every one else decides on, I am going to refer to myself as a > Kat. Me too! :) A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 25 07:59:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id HAA21253 for kats-ll; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:43:42 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA21245 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:43:39 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA05438; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:49:23 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:49:23 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: The vortex scene on "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice". In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Isn't Mook the one who did "The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice" episode? Yep. Also, if you want to know a particular scene in an ep., example: The "We'd get THERE faster with all our engines" what chance posted a while back. It was from "Night of Dark Kat" A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 25 13:29:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA16572 for kats-ll; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 12:50:37 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA16558 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 12:50:28 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA42594; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 11:50:19 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603251750.AA42594@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: SWAT Kats LOUD To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 11:50:19 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "ARTHUR JOHN FREDA" at Mar 25, 96 07:51:59 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1856 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net If you watch SWAT Kats on a small mono TV, then you are missing out on a the true listening experience. I don't own any kind of spectacular system here myself (a 13 mono TV and recently broken mono VCR are about it for me.), but back at home we have a stereo VCR hooked up to an amp and some pretty big speakers. When I'm home I put my videos, especially the prerecordeds in, set the base a couple notches higher, and crank it up. SWAT Kats, dare I say more than any other animated series, can utilize big sound to its fullest extent. For starters, the soundtrack totally rocks. Just listen to the flight sequence early on in Night of the Dark Kat, the music played during the Macrobots, the Megasaurous Rex attack, and about a dozen other incredible sounding scenes. At the risk of sounding cliched, its a rush, a real pulse pounding trip. High Volume Kats music is like no other, that's for sure. And it's not just the music either, but the subtle sound FX that come through in high volume. All the details are amplified as if I myself were a Kat with ears perked, ready to catch everything and anything that can be listened to. The sound of feet - I mean paws - touching the ground, the clink of a guard's keys, and all the other little nuances that the sound engineers go out of their way to provide. And then there's the already loud stuff: The blare of the SWAT Kats alert buzzer, the roar of the TurboKats engines, and Oh, *those*explosions*. With high volume stereo, it's like you're there, right in the middle of all the action. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 25 14:04:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA18908 for kats-ll; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:21:21 -0500 Received: from PICA.ARMY.MIL (octavius.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.111]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA18903 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:21:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 96 13:17:30 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Let's clear this up. Message-ID: <9603251317.aa22586@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> No, SWAT Kats *isn't* anime, and just because something is Japanese >>animated, that doesn't mean it's anime, otherwise Tiny Toon Adventures, for >>instance, could be considered anime. I've known some people to use anime >>to mean anything animated and cool, but that't not it. I've already said what >>anime *really* means, stick to that. (BTW, I mispelled a name, that's Helen >>*McCarthy*.) >> >Not to burst your bubble, but I just think that SWAT Kats is due to that >American cartoons don't have such shading, and esides, the plots can get >almost as complex as some of the anime I've seen. It's pretty much what you >think is anime. It's up to each individual to decide wether this hybrid is >mostly American, or in the broad specturm of Anime. Either place, there's >something to drag it to the other side. Anime is Japanese animation _made for the Japanese market_. Whether it was brought to the US later matters not; the fact that it was made there for their domestic market is what makes it anime. SWAT Kats was made for the North American market, and thus by definition _cannot_ be anime. "Shading" and "complexity" are irrelevant. I also caught a line about Callie having "Tezuka eyes" in this tangled thread (pun intended). Most amusing, given that Tezuka copied this from Disney, and admits it :) Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 25 14:26:59 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA21398 for kats-ll; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:53:36 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA21392 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:53:30 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA19373; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:59:14 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:59:13 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: SWAT Kats LOUD In-Reply-To: <9603251750.AA42594@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Yup. I've done the same thing you have. Also, I think I might get TCN in stereo because I took my stereo sk wav file and switched it to mono, and ARRRGGGHHH! It didn't sound as good as the stereo version. Good thing i didn't save the changes :) A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 25 18:55:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA13304 for kats-ll; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:35:24 -0500 Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA13296 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:35:20 -0500 Received: from tole-cs-3.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-3.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.103]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id SAA11783 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:28:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:28:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199603252328.SAA11783@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Get them Back on Air! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net ... and we should NEVER give up until the Kats are back on the ... Huh? What??? They're Back ?!?!? What's this new schedule stuff ? SwatKats are back on at 4:30, weekdays ? Fantastic! Now what we need are the new episodes ! Paul Kemner Toledo, OH From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 25 21:22:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA24461 for kats-ll; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 20:55:28 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA24456 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 20:55:25 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d147.infoserve.net [199.175.157.147]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA00643 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:11:55 -0800 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:11:55 -0800 Message-Id: <199603260211.SAA00643@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Forwarded for Snoopy's friend... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >To: kats@bort.mv.net >From: fhs1@shastalink.k12.ca.us (Foothill High School Library) >Subject: just something... >X-Mailer: > > Hey, KatsFans (UGH!; I like Katalysts! ^_^) Well, I still am >writing the story 'SWATKATS: Battle 1-Grey Side; Battle 2-Blue Side.' I >have to post it somehow on rat.org via e-mail, and from a BBS system, >attachments to a Eudora mailbox account don't work; I tried to send some >files to Snoopy, but no go... About the SW RPG game... I would like to >help, and if in CCG (Magic: the Gathering and Star Wars card games) I could >help with that. Also, is anyone out there interested in a Space Balls II: >The Search for More Money story? I'm writing it, but have been recently >concentrating on SW story mentioned above. Well, gotta' go! > > 'Kay, Bye! (Sorry Terra! It's just a cool bye! > > > > <'Scuse me while I recharge my flamethrower...> > > > _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 25 21:23:47 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA25150 for kats-ll; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 21:15:45 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA25143 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 21:15:42 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d147.infoserve.net [199.175.157.147]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA02251 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:32:17 -0800 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:32:17 -0800 Message-Id: <199603260232.SAA02251@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Boingy, boingy...check the account you're using, guys! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >To: kats@bort.mv.net >From: carrie@frontier.eznet.net (Carrie) >Subject: Re: Get them Back on Air! > >> ... and we should NEVER give up until the Kats are back on the ... >>Huh? What??? >>They're Back ?!?!? What's this new schedule stuff ? SwatKats are back on at >>4:30, weekdays ? Fantastic! >> >>Now what we need are the new episodes ! >> >>Paul Kemner >>Toledo, OH >> >> >> > >They're back with the new schedule? What time in CST? Desparate fan would >like to know!!! > >Frank Fuller >fuller@sioux.sodak.net >Proud to be a Swat Kats fan at 22 years old > > > _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 25 22:25:03 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA29496 for kats-ll; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:17:50 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA29491 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:17:47 -0500 Received: from bossrkf3.bossnt.com (bossrkf3.bossnt.com [198.150.207.43]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA04573 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:19:32 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:19:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199603260319.WAA04573@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: peej@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Peejster Subject: Name of Katfans Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I like the name "Katalysts;" any other new names? Peejster From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Mar 25 23:16:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA03282 for kats-ll; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 23:07:48 -0500 Received: from sioux.sodak.net (root@sioux.sodak.net [205.164.184.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA03275 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 23:07:43 -0500 Received: from sioux.sodak.net ([205.164.184.206]) by sioux.sodak.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA23867 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:29:59 -0600 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:29:59 -0600 Message-Id: <199603260429.WAA23867@sioux.sodak.net> X-Sender: fuller@sioux X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: fuller@sioux.sodak.net (Frank Fuller) Subject: Re: Boingy, boingy...check the account you're using, guys! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >>To: kats@bort.mv.net >>From: carrie@frontier.eznet.net (Carrie) >>Subject: Re: Get them Back on Air! >> >>> ... and we should NEVER give up until the Kats are back on the ... >>>Huh? What??? >>>They're Back ?!?!? What's this new schedule stuff ? SwatKats are back on at >>>4:30, weekdays ? Fantastic! >>> >>>Now what we need are the new episodes ! >>> >>>Paul Kemner >>>Toledo, OH >>> >>> >>> >> >>They're back with the new schedule? What time in CST? Desparate fan would >>like to know!!! >> >>Frank Fuller >>fuller@sioux.sodak.net >>Proud to be a Swat Kats fan at 22 years old >> >> >> >_____________________________________________________ >"Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed > antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, > through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in > the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" >_____________________________________________________ > > Errrk, sorry, my GF uses my e-mail address, as well as her own on another site, I forgot to unset some of the stuff from her using it, before I mailed about that. fuller@sioux.sodak.net Frank Fuller Proud to be a Swat Kats fan at 22 From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 26 01:14:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA20841 for kats-ll; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 00:56:56 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA20826 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 00:56:38 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d160.infoserve.net [199.175.157.160]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA15589 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:13:08 -0800 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:13:08 -0800 Message-Id: <199603260613.WAA15589@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Whaddya think of this {story} idea? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net ." I am using some characters that you will >probably see again in my later stories, just changed slightly. >If you think you would like for me to branch out on this story, please e-me. >If you guys would like, I can post a character guide for each of the new >characters I used in this story. If I do, I would suggest you keep it, >'cause you'll see 'em again in later tales from my twisted thoughts. Hmm. Before you do that, you're going to make sure the story's finished, right? >Oh yeah, and one more thing: What are we gonna do about the RPG idea I had a >while ago? Are we doing it or not? (Hello, Chance? Where are you?) I'm watching "Skaredy" on TV, as per usual, but I'm like *buried* in e-mail at the moment, and a like amount of work as well. Personally, it sounds like fun, and people do it all the time on Furtoonia, but I'm not going to have the time to participate. Bummer, but unless someone invents 32 hour days, there just isn't enough time for everything! (like now - this is message 16 of something like 64!). Moving right along...no. 17... _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 26 01:24:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA21325 for kats-ll; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 01:10:29 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA21316 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 01:10:23 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d160.infoserve.net [199.175.157.160]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA16434 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:26:56 -0800 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:26:56 -0800 Message-Id: <199603260626.WAA16434@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Nitpickers guide to the Galaxy: Posting etiquette... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Seeing as how some of us are having some minature disscussions about >>stories, I was thinking. (I'm in the middle of writing one, this is >>basically what the post is about.) (Chance brings out the Really Big Scissors....*kersnip*) Pretty please with Katnip on it, please, please don't quote more than you need to of previous messages, especially if there's fifteen different levels of ">>>" to show that others ignored a like number of "pleases". If you're responding to something in a novel, do you quote the whole novel? The whole chapter? No. Generally just the paragraph, or if you're really sharp - just the sentence. Please regard the following. Take notes. There will be a test. (meetcha at the bottom..) >etc., etc., etc....) about them starting a manga/anime CCG. If anyone >would like to help me, E-Mail me at... > louallen.wheeler@fatal.com > Heeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee'''' >'''''''''''sssssssssssssssssss > > > GIYGGAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > He still >needs a little work to program all the bugs out of his system. Don't worry! >I'll finish my brainwashing class soon! (he, he!) >___________________________________________________ >Ryan "B-ko "Snoopy" Daitokuji" Kelley (Giyggas to Ted Turner) >SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan >Good thing you can't see me in person!! >___________________________________________________ >"Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." > >Snoopy? > > ...still with me? Good. Essentially, this is the biggest sig in captivity (though kinda cool) and is causing the vacuum tubes in majordomo unnecessary pain and suffering. Maybe just trim 'em to four lines or so, 'kay? Also, exclamation marks are rapidly becoming an endangered species, so maybe ask yourself whether or not you'd like to save a couple for posterity rather than so generously distribute them to 70 others. Thank you for your attention, Grouchykat. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 26 01:34:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA21550 for kats-ll; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 01:20:35 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA21543 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 01:20:26 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d160.infoserve.net [199.175.157.160]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA16779 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:37:08 -0800 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:37:08 -0800 Message-Id: <199603260637.WAA16779@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Whaddya think of this {story} idea? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Well, I was thinking more of what they do in other mailing lists. Y'know, we >take on the identity of our character, then sorta write from their POV. (A >really good example of what I mean is at the Black Rose's site. And even >though it *is* A.R., it's got an example of what I mean. Look under Role Another variation of this (good) idea is maybe do something where you write, say, two/three paragraphs about another character of your choice, from the POV of another character of your choice. For example, you could be Callie recounting a story about Jake, or Razor describing the sometimes irritating habits of T-Bone, and so on. Generally, if you like a character you're generally able to "get in their heads" and predict how they'd react to situations not covered in the body of eps. In that regard, there's basically no difference between the fans and the scriptwriters - except that the scriptwriters get paid. >http://www.eskimo.com~ash/archive.html) Check it out if you don't understand Hm. "eskimo.com" is about 30 miles south of me. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 26 01:42:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA21853 for kats-ll; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 01:38:01 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA21843 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 01:37:56 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d160.infoserve.net [199.175.157.160]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA17530 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:54:30 -0800 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:54:30 -0800 Message-Id: <199603260654.WAA17530@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Feral and the Dark Side (The original Cry Turmoil) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >chance wrote: >>>The writer intended it to be a statement that Feral could be a bad >>>Kat under the right set of circumstances, and that a combination of >>>"underappreciation" in MCPD and the opportunity presented by >>>Turmoil provided those circumstances. > >Ed wrote: >>I just can't see this at all. Regardless of underappreciation and >>opportunity, Feral would never switch sides like that. It just goes >>against his basic character. He might pretend to go along, like >>T-Bone did, but would never mean it. >>That's how I read Feral. "That's how I read Feral" as well, and think that Feral in the T-Bone role would've only worked if he had similar motives. I can't see his infatuation with Turmoil eclipsing what constitutes his very being - ramrod straight, hard-assed, by-the-book (at least publicly) jarhead copper. If Buzz Potamkin (or Margot McDonough - I can't rightly recall which) ordered the Feral/T-Bone swap based on preserving this aspect of his charcter, well...then the decision was a good one. However... >>That's an annoyingly myopic POV. In any well-developed series there >>are going to be eps that study the character of the supporting >>players. Maybe not to this degree, but close. To concentrate the >>show only on our heroes leads to stagnation. Not to mention that the central protagonists develop almost sympathetically when the ancilliary cast does, as their environment changes with every bit of "growing up" that the supporting characters go through. An ep focusing on Feral that results in some change in the character would doubtlessly influence further interaction with the Kat-guys at some point in the future. The Kats' reaction to Feral would doubtlessly also be different in some respects, and there you have it: both characters change even though the 'focus' didn't always remain on Razor and T-Bone. Development of the supporting cast is similar to changing the background paintings during the course of telling a story. "Razor and T-Bone" filmed against the same background each time would still fundamentally be "SwatKats", but how much more interesting is it when they're filmed against many different backdrops, and doing Kat-things in many different locales. Same goes with the supporting cast. If they don't change somewhat during the course of the series, they become little better than that same, stale background painting that never changes. It was justified by the overlords at the time by saying: "Lance. You're writing for a bunch of 9yr. olds". 'Kay...hands up; how many of you are 9 yrs. old? _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 26 01:57:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA24224 for kats-ll; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 01:51:51 -0500 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA24219 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 01:51:48 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with SMTP id BAA25287 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 01:51:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d160.infoserve.net [199.175.157.160]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA18039 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 23:07:12 -0800 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 23:07:12 -0800 Message-Id: <199603260707.XAA18039@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Nitpicking tonight! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> I'm going to start my 2nd Season nitpick guide tonight! Wish me luck that >> I find all the little mistakes! >> >> A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please > > All right! Finally some nitpicks on their way. Are you going to go for >the technical stuff, nitpick the plots, or just about everything? One thing >I'd like to see is a list of all the coloring boo-boos. There's not many, >especially in comparison to lots of other shows, but there are some. There's some *hideously* off-model artwork in one ep of the first season, but most occurrences of stuff likely to be labeled such in the second seem to have more to do with experimentation than outright sloppiness. In fact, I think Mook was guilty of one of the more egregious insults from the early eps, but I'd have to go look. (another excuse to rewatch the first season...such torture.) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 26 01:59:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA22193 for kats-ll; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 01:45:11 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA22084 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 01:45:04 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d160.infoserve.net [199.175.157.160]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA17724 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 23:01:30 -0800 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 23:01:30 -0800 Message-Id: <199603260701.XAA17724@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: The vortex scene on "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice". Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Mook did animate TPART (What I consider the first season's best), but >something that needs to be cleared up (I think in the FAQ as well.) is that >Hanho is not a Taiwanese studio, they're Korean, right? Some time ago the >nationality got mixed up and folks (Including me for a long while) have been >confused ever since. Hanho Heung-Up *does* sound Korean, but every bit of info I have on them describes them as "Taiwanese". Guess they're sharpening their little pencils for the coming invasion, huh? (Oh yeah, Ben? Don't eat any Mad Cows...) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 26 07:06:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id GAA07931 for kats-ll; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 06:42:25 -0500 Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id GAA07926 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 06:42:19 -0500 Received: from tole-cs-4.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-4.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.104]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id GAA20852; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 06:35:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 06:35:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199603261135.GAA20852@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: fuller@sioux.sodak.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Swat Kats Back! Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Since SK is now on at 4:30 EST, I guess that they would be on at 3:30 CST. I have a small b&w tv in my workshop that I sometimes tune to CTN. At 4:00 they started showing Pirates of Dark Water, and playing the 'what's on next' promo showing the Kats on next. Ran upstairs & set the VCR, and sure enough, they were on. Is this the result of a coup d'etat? Did heads roll? Did the toons really take over, as in their old promo? "Launching plain old missile ..... NOW!" Who knows? Now all we need is NewKats!, NewKats!, NewKats! Paul Kemner Toledo, OH PS- I originally mistyped one of the NewKats as NetKats. How about putting that on the pile of group names? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 26 10:39:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA24010 for kats-ll; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:13:24 -0500 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA24005 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:13:22 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with ESMTP id KAA28772 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:13:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.5/merit-2.0) with SMTP id KAA15223 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:11:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa03543; 26 Mar 96 8:15 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <315817D9@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Tue, 26 Mar 96 08:14:17 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: Kats list Subject: Re: anime callie Date: Mon, 25 Mar 96 18:14:00 PST Message-ID: <315817D9@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 7 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Callie has had so many different appearances in SWAT Kats that you have to >pick just *which* anime-like style? I still choose The Deadly Pyramind as her >best. I'd have to say I liked her stylization in "Origin of Dr. Viper" the best. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 26 11:13:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA26725 for kats-ll; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:47:26 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA26716 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:47:21 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d144.infoserve.net [199.175.157.144]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA02082 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 08:04:17 -0800 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 08:04:17 -0800 Message-Id: <199603261604.IAA02082@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: H-B Lives! & Kats Animation Art Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net someone@turner.com wrote: >>Don't ask me where Swat Kats falls in this whole deal because I have no idea. Ryan wrote: >With Ted charge? Probably nowhere! along with anything else (If any) goon >that TedCo ever made because Ted cancels all the good stuff! I wrote: Though I'm not speaking for the turner.com poster, a lot of the H-B gang would agree with you. >>They are NOT changing the name in front of our oh-so-colorful building. >> >EXPLAIN PLEASE........... (Do you mean yo work at H-B or something??) Um...nobody check headers anymore? He means that Hanna-Barbera el presidente Fred Seibert took away the Tremblays' box of crayons and discarded everything but chartreuse (that's 'purple' between you and me) and proceeded to scribble all over the facade of 3400 Cahuenga Blvd. until it looked for all the world like a New Orleans whorehouse (if you don't know what that is, *please* don't ask your parents, or Senator Exon will put me on his Christmas Card list). It seems that the decision for a new colour was between the Blue and the Grey (Ted favouring "the Grey" for some odd reason), and Seibert compromised by mixing the two and adding a little red ink of his own (man, I'm *nasty* when I want to be, huh?) Anyway, Ted didn't like the colour - and neither did H-B co-founder Joe Barbera, who described the pastel travesty as: "People drive by on the street and do a 'Kramer' -style shock-take!" (delivered while trying his best at emulating same) >>I am in discussion with our Animation Art dept. to see if I can work a special >>deal on those Kats cels for our list members. Don't get your hopes up, but if >>something comes up, I'll post again. > >Too late, oh well! Marc's efforts appreciated by one and all even if they don't come to fruition. Listmembers might try getting any kind of latitude from a WBSS or Disney Store; that is, unless you've already *got* windmills to tilt at. >>I will now return to my "lurker" status...Love to all! Lesson to be learned: you can never tell who lurks behind the skirting boards of a public forum...maybe Jane reads Ted to sleep every night with katmail? _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 26 15:48:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA18357 for kats-ll; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 15:34:27 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA18352 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 15:34:23 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA65518; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 14:33:45 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603262033.AA65518@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: The vortex scene on "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice". To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 14:33:45 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199603260701.XAA17724@unix.infoserve.net> from "chance" at Mar 25, 96 11:01:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1094 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >Hanho is not a Taiwanese studio, they're Korean, right? Some time ago the > > Hanho Heung-Up *does* sound Korean, but every bit of info I have on > them describes them as "Taiwanese". Guess they're sharpening their little > pencils for the coming invasion, huh? > Hanho Heung-Up animated Starchaser: The Legend of Orin and boy does it show. Even though a total of $9 million was spent on it, the hand drawn animation, which I'm guessing had a least a few of those millions put into it, looks only slightly better than Filmation's TV work. If I remember correctly, a critic stated that it was animated in South Korea, so there you go. That's my source. It's not much of one, but it does put the nationality under suspicion. We now return you to on-topic SWAT Kats discussion. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 26 17:58:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA27479 for kats-ll; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:27:41 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA27466 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:27:18 -0500 Received: from net-3-106.austin.eden.com (net-3-106.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.106]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA15430 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:26:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:26:56 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603262226.QAA15430@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: The vortex scene on "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice". X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Hanho Heung-Up animated Starchaser: The Legend of Orin and boy does it >show. Even though a total of $9 million was spent on it, the hand drawn >animation, which I'm guessing had a least a few of those millions put into it, >looks only slightly better than Filmation's TV work. If I remember correctly, >a critic stated that it was animated in South Korea, so there you go. That's >my source. It's not much of one, but it does put the nationality >under suspicion. > > We now return you to on-topic SWAT Kats discussion. > > |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| > | | | | > \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / > \/ \/ Ahem . . . I *know* this is also sorta off-topic but I kinda resent this remark about South Korea. If you haven't noticed from my last name, it's Chang, and that's Oriental, and my family specifically is from South Korea. So please, don't comment on how bad they are, okay? Please? Okay, *NOW* we return you to on-topic SWAT Kats discussion. Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan Supporter of crazy ideas "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 26 22:17:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA17302 for kats-ll; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 21:50:53 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA17234 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 21:50:47 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA110276; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:50:44 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603270250.AA110276@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: The vortex scene on "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice". To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:50:44 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199603262226.QAA15430@natashya.eden.com> from "Kay Chang" at Mar 26, 96 04:26:56 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2693 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >a critic stated that it was animated in South Korea, so there you go. That's > >my source. It's not much of one, but it does put the nationality > >under suspicion. > Ahem . . . I *know* this is also sorta off-topic but I kinda resent this > remark about South Korea. If you haven't noticed from my last name, it's > Chang, and that's Oriental, and my family specifically is from South Korea. > So please, don't comment on how bad they are, okay? Please? > > Okay, *NOW* we return you to on-topic SWAT Kats discussion. You know, I was about to point out that I didn't mean it as any type of negative comment about nationality, and then I reread what I wrote. I realize now that the "so there you go" remark was misunderstood to mean something along the lines of "It was bad because it was South Korean." or some other nonsense. The next few lines clarify the context, that the "so there you go" bit was saying "so that's the source.", but not as clearly as they should have. Even making a little change such as "so there you go, that's my source." without starting a new sentence, then that would have been a *little* clearer. I really need to think out the wording of these things before I type them. Just because I know what I mean, that doesn't mean others automatically do. But if one *were* to argue animation talent according to nationality, has to rank not individual animators, but the number of talented animators in a nation and take into account the bad animators. Based on what I've seen, I'd say that the ranking of a few major nations would be Japanese, Korean, Canadian, American. I can't begin to list the amount of Japanese animation obviously made by talent, Korean works such as Tenchi Muyo and the LTV AEon Flux are impressive, and Canadian animation is a step above American. The work made for televsion and video (OAV's) most strongly bear out this ranking. SWAT Kats just happens to hold an unusual position in all this. It was created by Candians, produced by an American company infamous for bad animation, and happened to animated by one of the worst South Korean studios (Assuming that critic was correct in the nationality of Hanho Heung-Up) *and* what I consider one of the best Japanese animation studios. This is getting dangerously off-topic I'll make up with more posts later. (Yeah, that's the ticket.) > Terra Chang: |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Mar 26 23:29:45 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA22509 for kats-ll; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 23:09:34 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA22504 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 23:09:28 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d145.infoserve.net [199.175.157.145]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA09227 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:26:33 -0800 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:26:33 -0800 Message-Id: <199603270426.UAA09227@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: It's a Small World After All... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net ***I've stripped the header off of this piece of e-mail I received, but I thought fellow members of the katlist (deftly avoiding the "name the katfans" issue) would get a kick out of this. So much for Turner's crystal ball when they cancelled the thing, huh?*** _____________________BEGIN QUOTED MATERIAL_________________- >Hi Chance, >These big companies are monsters. > >Interestingly enough, I found out that a friend of mine got a job answering >e-mail for the Cartoon Network on AOL... You'll be glad to know that one of >the most commonly asked questions is when will Swat Kats be back... He's a >nice guy himself... a bit of an expert on Hanna-Barbera... He says he's >getting a kick out of answering the mail "in character"... Of course, all >his correspondence is monitored and approved before it goes out... _____________________END QUOTED MATERIAL____________________ **I've heard similar about "monitored correspondence" from others.** _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 27 10:30:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA14417 for kats-ll; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 10:14:18 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA14409 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 10:14:09 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d142.infoserve.net [199.175.157.142]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA04003 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 07:31:39 -0800 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 07:31:39 -0800 Message-Id: <199603271531.HAA04003@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: The vortex scene on "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice". Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > SWAT Kats just happens to hold an unusual position in all this. It was >created by Candians, produced by an American company infamous for bad >animation, and happened to animated by one of the worst South Korean studios >(Assuming that critic was correct in the nationality of Hanho Heung-Up) *and* >what I consider one of the best Japanese animation studios. > > This is getting dangerously off-topic > > I'll make up with more posts later. (Yeah, that's the ticket.) Actually, the way it works out (so I've been told by WBA people) is that overseas studios often have a two or three tier system whereby they "stream" their animators according to expertise as kind of "A", "B", and "C" crews; assigning them to different projects based on the nature of the project, and how well it pays. "SwatKats" doesn't look as though it had the same budget allotted for each episode, so it's possible that some of the Hanho eps drew "A" crews, some "B" and others "C". I've seen some episodes of "Animaniacs" done by a fine Japanese Studio - Tokyo Movie Shinsha - that varied considerably *within* the very same ep: the work of two very different crews clearly evident. Hanho Heung-Up is *not* a lousy studio, Korean or otherwise, as they've animted some fine things in the past ("Tale Spin" comes to mind), and I didn't personally think that their Katseps were all that bad. Mook was just better. (Oh yeah. I read Kevin's stuff the first time 'round and *didn't* pick up even the slightest hint of any racism, but, well...your mileage may vary). _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 27 11:53:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA20375 for kats-ll; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 11:33:17 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA20362 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 11:33:14 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.157] (dyn1157a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.157]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id XAA23191 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 23:34:21 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 23:31:36 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Names Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Now all we need is NewKats!, NewKats!, NewKats! > >Paul Kemner >Toledo, OH > >PS- I originally mistyped one of the NewKats as NetKats. How about putting >that on the pile of group names? Hmmm, NetKats. Kats, fans of SWAT Kats. Megafans, really really fans of SWAT Kats NetKats, Kats that are online. NewKats, new audience of SWAT Kats. Katalyst, Kats that influence the series. How about that? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 27 13:31:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA28706 for kats-ll; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 13:04:54 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA28699 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 13:04:51 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA77666; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 12:04:47 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603271804.AA77666@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Names To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 12:04:47 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at Mar 27, 96 11:31:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 745 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Hmmm, NetKats. > > Kats, fans of SWAT Kats. > Megafans, really really fans of SWAT Kats > NetKats, Kats that are online. > NewKats, new audience of SWAT Kats. > Katalyst, Kats that influence the series. > > How about that? > > Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id Why don't we gather up all of the names suggested for SWAT Kats Fans, and put them into the FAQ? I'll write it up and everything to pass on to Razor. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 27 13:43:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA28368 for kats-ll; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 13:01:47 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA28356 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 13:01:43 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA41350; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 12:01:02 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603271801.AA41350@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: About animation studios To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 12:01:02 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199603271531.HAA04003@unix.infoserve.net> from "chance" at Mar 27, 96 07:31:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3451 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > overseas studios often have a two or three tier system whereby they > "stream" their animators according to expertise as kind of "A", "B", and "C" > crews; assigning them to different projects based on the nature of the > project, and how well it pays. I already knew that. But based on what I've seen, Hanho's best animation teams are worse than Mook's worst. Starchaser was a multimillion dollar theatrical project, so I don't think it's all that unreasonable to assume that it had some of their A animators working on it, yet it still looked awful. > "SwatKats" doesn't look as though it had the same budget allotted for each > episode, so it's possible that some of the Hanho eps drew "A" crews, some > "B" and others "C". I've seen some episodes of "Animaniacs" done by I've noticed the same thing among both the Hanho and Mook eps. The finest Hanho animation I've seen on SWAT Kats IMO was in Enter The MadKat, with all those bouncing balls, and the worst Kats Mook animation looked better. Mark Lungo told me that Hanho was actually more expensive than Mook, and when Mook animated, the producers tried (And sometimes succeeded) to get the A animators to work on them. If they could get the best of Mook to at least sometimes work on SK's, then do you suppose that the best of Hanho worked on the show as well? If what I'm seeing in the best looking SK's eps is the A animation for each studio, then the best of Mook's animation is not just "better", it *crushes* the best of Hanho's. > a fine Japanese Studio - Tokyo Movie Shinsha - that varied considerably > *within* the very same ep: the work of two very different crews clearly > evident. Like I just said, it appears to be the same way for SWAT Kats, and it's a question of how good the best is. Oh, and thanks for complimenting TMS. Reminds me of an old rec.arts.animation thread I have yet to follow up on... > Hanho Heung-Up is *not* a lousy studio, Korean or otherwise, as they've > animted some fine things in the past ("Tale Spin" comes to mind), and I "Lousy" is a term that varies with opinion. I don't know about you, but I'm keeping it to describe Hanho. My Tale Spine memories are fuzzy and I never bothered to keep permanet tapes of the series. Offhand, what episodes did they animate? (Maybe this is best kept to E-mail if it's so off topic.) Here I go with another wild assumption, but I'm betting it wasn't the series best, probably those episodes that looked like their Winnie the Pooh work. > didn't personally think that their Katseps were all that bad. Mook was just > better. I *do* think Hanho's Kats stuff was bad, and I can start in on the worst looking portions if you want. That's of course in no way anything against the series - Make no mistake, I LOVE SWAT Kats - just what I feel is a well deserved slap for ruining what could have been some incredibly animated action sequences. The series just feels incomplete without animation of consistently high quality. If anything, my Hanho basing is in defense of the series; SWAT Kats deserved better. I dunno, maybe I've been spoiled by anime or something. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 27 15:15:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA04590 for kats-ll; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 14:25:46 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA04585 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 14:25:43 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA26134; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 13:25:38 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603271925.AA26134@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Poll for new Kats link To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 13:25:38 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199603271531.HAA04003@unix.infoserve.net> from "chance" at Mar 27, 96 07:31:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 4651 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net A long time ago, someone on this list posted about a SWAT Kats site at the Sci-Fi Channel's dominion. I discussed the possibility of creating a link to it from the SK's resource page with Ratman. He wasn't too enthused about it, but I still want it done, so he suggested that I poll fans. You can check it out at: http://www.scifi.com/cgi-bin/rbox/articles.pl?1&6&68 from the larger directory of: http://www.scifi.com/cgi-bin/rbox/topics.pl?1&6 Here are some the pros and cons/for and against arguments of such a link that I've come up with off the top of my head: Pros/For This is the only SWAT Kats site of any signifigance on the web that I know of that's entirely seperate from rat.org. It only seems right to link them. By creating a link, we'd allow SWAT Kats fan a simple outlet for praising and otherwise commenting on the series in a public forum, with the bonus of the posts "sticking" for several months (The comments up there right now are rather old, but still there.) This cannot truly be done with alt.tv.swat-kats since so few people can subscribe (I can't =-< ) and posts on the usenet fade so quickly. Nor does this list serve the purpose since it is also temporary (sort of) and Kats fans must seek it out and subscribe to read it. If we fill the site up with SWAT Kats posts, then regular readers of the dominion and those who randomly surf the web may happen upon it and learn of SWAT Kats fandom. This *is* a bit of a circular argument since many of these posts to it will be made after the site is established. It could bring in more fans. Wouldn't it be great if SWAT Kats Fans subscribed and told us "I subscribed to this list after reading about it on the Sci Fi Channel Web sight." ? Beggars can't be choosers. Cons/Against The site was apparently started by a fan, so it is mispelled "Swat Cats" The maintainers of the Dominion can't change it since they are not to interfer with what the fans start. Ratman feels it would make rat.org look bad. The fact that we agreed to establish a link might in some way make *us* look bad, desperate, or whatever. The site is only one of hundreds and being so commonplace cheapens and trivializes SWAT Kats. There are currently only two posts there about it. We can do just fine without it. Eh, that's all I can think of for now. In case it's not clear, I'm for the link, and if and when one is established, I'll post lots of info to it. Heck, I'll do that soon even if the link *isn't* established. Since I am for it, I can't let my own arguments against pass without counterpoints ;-) The spelling error is an understandable one that we can easily clarify, afterwhich the correct spelling will be understood. As matter of fact, the paragraph that contains the link will point this out. (Something along the lines of "SWAT Kats is mispelled, but it's still better than nothing.") I don't think it would make rat.org look all that bad, especially considering the existence of the perv images and the reputation damage *they* must cause. I don't think creating such a link would make us look desperate. Since when does making a link, even if it is a bad one, an act of desperation? Lots of great series, anime, and movies are located at the topic sight. It doesn't hurt or cheapen them, but simply expands the fandom. The fact that it only has two posts just goes to demonstrate the need for drawing attention to it through a link We *have* done just fine without the link, but I think establishing it would make us better off by expanding SWAT Kats fandom. If you have any additional for or against comments, then I guess posting to the list would be on-topic and fine provided that you are not simply making a vote. To vote for or against the link, then please E-mail me with your vote for or against vote and your name. Do not, Do Not, *DO*NOT* post to the list saying simply "for" or "against". You may vote only once, and each additional vote will only be a waste of time since I won't count them. I'll keep a running total, and I swear on a stack of bibles I'll keep the results honest and confidential when I post them, say next Thursday, April 4th (I can move back the deadline if need be.) I hope to hear from everybody soon. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / The Long Lost, but now found Kats Fan \ / \/ \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 27 17:08:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA13731 for kats-ll; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:37:00 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA13726 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:36:58 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA56716 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:13:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:12:51 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-085.43] Message-Id: <096.04546885.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: re: About animation studios Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Kevin wrote: >> overseas studios often have a two or three tier system whereby they >> "stream" their animators according to expertise as kind of "A", "B", and "C" >> crews; assigning them to different projects based on the nature of the >> project, and how well it pays. > I already knew that. But based on what I've seen, Hanho's best animation >teams are worse than Mook's worst. I agree. I'll admit--Hanho's work was MUCH better than some other shows (especially Saturday morning stuff) that I've seen, but there were some aspects I didn't like. Watch the Mooks, then attempt to watch a Hanho and you'll know what I'm talking about. My favorite scene and I think the most vital one to fanfic is the flashback of the Kat guys in the enforcers, and that was SLOPPY. It's really a shame that such a scene wasn't done by Mook. Hanho tends to get a bit blubbery, especially with arms and legs. Still, he did improve in second season, as Mook did. "Cry Turmoil" and "The Origin of Doctor Viper" were both improvements in style on his first season work. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 27 17:54:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA18309 for kats-ll; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 17:27:32 -0500 Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA18301 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 17:27:30 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.1/mem-940616) with ESMTP id RAA13558 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 17:27:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from net-4-134.austin.eden.com (net-4-134.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.134]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA06830 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:25:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:25:11 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603272225.QAA06830@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: The vortex scene on "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice". X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >(Oh yeah. I read Kevin's stuff the first time 'round and *didn't* pick up > even the slightest hint of any racism, but, well...your mileage may vary). I'm sorry . . . I was in a bad mood that day, I had to do something! (LIke today, I was dissin' Lassie 'cause my friend wouldn't SHUT UP about how she should be the 'first dog president of the United States!' When I said No way, she hit me! Sigh . . . I'm sorry, but that day just wasn't a good day for me. This person will now stop posting off-topic subjects and is considering changing her signature. (AGAIN!) Terra Chang: writer and poet crazy violinist SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan Supporter of crazy ideas "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the world was in their hands. Then I ask myself: 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 27 19:23:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA26918 for kats-ll; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 19:06:30 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA26903 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 19:06:26 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA66644; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 18:06:22 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603280006.AA66644@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Should we start a rumor? To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 18:06:22 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1535 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net With April Fool's day coming up, I wonder, might it be a good idea to start a rumor about SWAT Kats? I'm thinking of maybe saying that SWAT Kats is indeed going to return, or that's there's going to be a big budget animated movie. All it would really take is a few letters and usenet posts to the right places, and what harm could it do at this point? The series has already been cancelled, and what merchandise there was is now gone. And when folks at Turner or H-B *do* deny the rumors, they'll be asked/told by dissapointed fans, "Why not? It'd be *great* if you did!" Kats Fans are already upset over the cancellation, and "news" such as this could give them hope once again, even if it is false. Once they learn the truth, then they might be pumped full of righteous indignation all over again. And *think* of the publicity it could get for the show. Controversy breeds popularity. Could a rumor work toward bringing back the show or planting a seed in the mind of a producer? The only thing it might cost at this point is a bad reputation, and since I don't have a good one in the first place it wouldn't be a loss for me. If all it would cost me is the price of being called a liar, then I'd do it for the Kats. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Mar 27 23:14:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA14260 for kats-ll; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 23:06:36 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA14254 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 23:06:22 -0500 Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.5/merit-2.0) with SMTP id XAA00227 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 23:06:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa07269; 27 Mar 96 17:08 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <3159E63A@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Wed, 27 Mar 96 17:07:06 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: Kats list Subject: RE: Poll for new Kats link Date: Wed, 27 Mar 96 17:05:00 PST Message-ID: <3159E63A@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 32 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Kevin wrote: >A long time ago, someone on this list posted about a SWAT Kats site at the >Sci-Fi Channel's dominion. I discussed the possibility of creating a link to >it from the SK's resource page with Ratman. He wasn't too enthused about it, >but I still want it done, so he suggested that I poll fans. You can check it out >at: > >http://www.scifi.com/cgi-bin/rbox/articles.pl?1&6&68 > >from the larger directory of: > >http://www.scifi.com/cgi-bin/rbox/topics.pl?1&6 Heh. I mentioned this a long time ago, and haven't been to the Dominion in a long time. When I first connected to the Dominion, you had to register with them in order to be able to post anything. That may have changed by now-- like I said, I haven't been there in a *long* time. Unfortunately, we can't link to the CTN stuff on AOL.. When I was using up some freebie time I noticed there was quite a bit of traffic about SK. If I remember correctly, the SK forum had the 4th (I think) largest number of posts (behind Flintstones, Scooby & Jetsons, I think). Can someone back me on this? -Matt mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us mweb@mich.com http://www.mich.com/~mweb From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 28 04:22:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id EAA11530 for kats-ll; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 04:12:54 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id EAA11520 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 04:12:49 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.182] (dyn1182a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.182]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id QAA12059 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:14:02 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:11:12 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Should we start a rumor? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Well, just watch out for any MatchHead missile that is coming your way. Some people may think that isn't a very funny April Fools joke. ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 28 04:27:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id EAA11525 for kats-ll; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 04:12:51 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id EAA11519 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 04:12:47 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.182] (dyn1182a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.182]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id QAA12048 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:13:54 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:11:06 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Names Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Why don't we gather up all of the names suggested for SWAT Kats Fans, Aren't we doing it right now? >and >put them into the FAQ? I'll write it up and everything to pass on to Razor. Well, write it. >Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 28 12:44:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA13558 for kats-ll; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:11:58 -0500 Received: (rat@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA13546; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:11:54 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:11:52 -0500 (EST) From: Ratman To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Poll for new Kats link In-Reply-To: <9603271925.AA26134@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Kevin L. Knoles wrote: > A long time ago, someone on this list posted about a SWAT Kats site at the > Sci-Fi Channel's dominion. I discussed the possibility of creating a link to it > from the SK's resource page with Ratman. He wasn't too enthused about it, but I > still want it done, so he suggested that I poll fans. You can check it out > at: > > http://www.scifi.com/cgi-bin/rbox/articles.pl?1&6&68 The name of the message thread is "Swat Cats". I don't know about you, but if I want to discuss the kats, I'll either do it here, or if it's kinda off topic, I'll do it on alt.tv.swatkats (where it's at least spelled right). > This is the only SWAT Kats site of any signifigance on the web that I know > of that's entirely seperate from rat.org. It only seems right to link them. I don't want to link them because they suck. I have to maintain some kind of quality control. This is some lame message base on a cable channel that doesn't even carry the Kats. If they do, then I'll link them. Until then, I will not link them. Live with it. > and otherwise commenting on the series in a public forum, with the bonus of the > posts "sticking" for several months (The comments up there right now are rather > old, but still there.) This cannot truly be done with alt.tv.swat-kats since > so few people can subscribe (I can't =-< ) and posts on the usenet fade so > quickly. Nor does this list serve the purpose since it is also temporary > (sort of) and Kats fans must seek it out and subscribe to read it. If you don't get the newsgroup, ask your internet provider. It's a legit newsgroup, ask them to add it. This goes for anyone that doesn't get it. > The fact that we agreed to establish a link might in some way make *us* look > bad, desperate, or whatever. "We" agreed to establish a link? I'm afraid I don't feel responsible for someone telling them I was going to link them. Howabout if I told them you'd give them $1000 dollars. > I don't think it would make rat.org look all that bad, especially > considering the existence of the perv images and the reputation damage *they* > must cause. If I got complaints, i'd take em down. So you're saying the site already looks bad for having perv images, so why not make it suck even more by adding a "Swat Cats" message board? I don't like that logic. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 28 13:01:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA14347 for kats-ll; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:29:17 -0500 Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA14335 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:29:13 -0500 Received: from tole-cs-5.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-5.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.105]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id MAA20522 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:21:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:21:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199603281721.MAA20522@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: SciFi site, etc. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hey, NetKats! I looked at the SciFi chanel site today, re Kevin's post. It seems to be possible to post new headers, so I'd suggest that we start one with the correct spelling, if we add a link to there. On a related subject: I've been thinking about online ways to attract new fans to the show. How about picking one or more general interest topics, and having everybody post replies to rec.arts.animation, and possibly copies to this SciFi site? Even if they have already been discussed on the mailing list, posting them might create a lot of new viewers to agitate for new episodes. I was thinking about topics like: Who's your favorite SK adversary? What's the best episode in terms of animation quality? What's the best episode in terms of story line? Is SK anime or is it Anime-like? (get all us anime fans to take a look at the show so they can give their opinion). etc. etc. etc. If this has already been suggested before I joined the list, please forgive. It's not easy finding Kats on the web- most searchers didn't show anyting when I started looking. Since TCN programs usually aren't listed in newspaper TV schedules, you're not likely to know that the show is out there, what it's about, or if it's worth watching. Maybe generating some general-interest stuff on usenet would help. Paul Kemner pkemner@bright.net From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 28 14:13:59 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA20245 for kats-ll; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 13:46:30 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA20240 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 13:46:26 -0500 Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA05102 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 13:46:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 13:46:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199603281846.NAA05102@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@underdog.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: Poll for new Kats link Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 01:25 PM 3/27/96 -0600, Kevin wrote: >http://www.scifi.com/cgi-bin/rbox/articles.pl?1&6&68 > This is the only SWAT Kats site of any signifigance on the web that I know >of that's entirely seperate from rat.org. It only seems right to link them. Are you serious about this, Kevin? I just checked out the link you gave, what is significant about it? They misspell the name, they offer no useful information on the info page (not even credits to the creators), and perhaps most importantly, the entire message base consists of one message posted last december. (I now go mildly off topic, my appologies Chance :-) Take a good hard look at the World Wide Web sometime. You'll find that 80% of the pages consist of links to OTHER pages (often pages of links themselves!), maybe 15% of the pages are redundant and duplicate info from elsewhere, and finally, you get to the small percentage of pages that offer some actual information. A good deal of really poor pages would have died of lack of use if someone hadn't linked to them, putting them on life support. Why prolong the suffering and agony? I say we let this "Swat Cats" page die of it's own accord, without trying to offer aid to it. Ratman has worked hard to make rat.org belong to that small catagory of useful web pages (Way to go, Rat!), and doesn't want to link to useless places. I have to agree with him on that, you won't find many links on my server either. If you find a link to useful Swat Kat info, you'll find that's a different matter. Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 28 17:13:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA04541 for kats-ll; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:24:27 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA04531 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:24:22 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA13350 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:04:54 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:03:55 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-085.43] Message-Id: <096.04640869.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Poll for new Kats link Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Max wrote: >>http://www.scifi.com/cgi-bin/rbox/articles.pl?1&6&68 >> This is the only SWAT Kats site of any signifigance on the web that I know >>of that's entirely seperate from rat.org. It only seems right to link them. >Are you serious about this, Kevin? I went over there, just to check it out. I agree with ratman--it sucked. What's the point of having conversations on a sucky site when we can have them in the privacy of our own e-mailboxes? >Take a good hard look at the World Wide Web sometime. You'll find that 80% >of the pages consist of links to OTHER pages (often pages of links >themselves!), maybe 15% of the pages are redundant and duplicate info from >elsewhere, and finally, you get to the small percentage of pages that offer >some actual information. Yeah! I used to surf, but I don't do it anymore unless it's at school, where it's free on a 28.8 modem and I'm not paying high Prodigy bills (ah, the wonder of private school!). A waste of time. I searched "seaQuest" once under webcrawler, and I got about 700 sites (no, I didn't check them ALL) that mentioned seaQuest ONCE in their random listing of sci-fi links. And when someone has a link to yahoo--what's the point of that? Everyone knows that address anyway. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 28 18:59:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA14245 for kats-ll; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 18:35:09 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA14238 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 18:35:06 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA42856; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 17:35:03 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603282335.AA42856@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Poll for new Kats link To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 17:35:03 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Ratman" at Mar 28, 96 12:11:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 6993 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > The name of the message thread is "Swat Cats". I don't know about you, but > if I want to discuss the kats, I'll either do it here, or if it's kinda > off topic, I'll do it on alt.tv.swatkats (where it's at least spelled > right). Like I said, since alt.tv.swatkats is so obscure, few people can make any type of comment there, and being part of the usenet, any posts will fade in just a few days. Posts to the Dominion site stick for months and just about anybody with web access can get it. > I don't want to link them because they suck. I have to maintain some kind of Which is a subjective opinion. *I* don't think they suck. I made it clear that my argument *was* a bit circular; After a link is established, there would be more posts, good posts. Even then would you still think they suck and refuse to link? > quality control. This is some lame message base on a cable channel that > doesn't even carry the Kats. If they do, then I'll link them. Until then, I > will not link them. Live with it. I knew you didn't want to link up with them, that was clear. But I thought your rejection was on a different basis than what you say now. Here's what you said then (Oh, Geez, here I go breaking one of the biggest rules of netiquette and posting private E-mail.) spelled wrong, then I don't want to have anything to do with it. I think I'll hold off on the link. This site is just of such poor quality, I think it would make us look bad. I explained that the spelling wasn't what *they* did, just a fan, and I wasn't certain if that would convince you or not, so I kept pushing. Later on: > > I have a link to alt.tv.swatkats. > > If people want to post messages about kats, they can do it there. > > Unless they're like me and 99.9999% of the universe and can't subscribe to > it. I'll do what I said and make a poll of what the Kats Fans think. Just make sure you're VERY clear that people should not reply to the list about it. No flat out refusals were made, so I posted the poll. Now I'm being told that there will not ever be such a link, no matter what the vote turns out. > > so few people can subscribe (I can't =-< ) and posts on the usenet fade so > > If you don't get the newsgroup, ask your internet provider. It's a legit > newsgroup, ask them to add it. This goes for anyone that doesn't get it. Same here. However, I *have* requested the group, three times, and they haven't listened to me. I said Please and everything too. I'll try again in a minute and see if I get any results. > > The fact that we agreed to establish a link might in some way make *us* look > > bad, desperate, or whatever. > > "We" agreed to establish a link? I'm afraid I don't feel responsible for > someone telling them I was going to link them. Howabout if I told them you'd > give them $1000 dollars? Then you'd be lying. I'm not saying that *you* have agreed (In case that's what is being implied.), I was speaking in a future tense, and refering to the turnout of a majority vote, which would be an overall agreement between Kats Fans (There's this little thing called "Democracy".), and I will keep objective track of the vote. > > I don't think it would make rat.org look all that bad, especially > > considering the existence of the perv images and the reputation damage *they * > > must cause. > > If I got complaints, i'd take em down. So you're saying the site already > looks bad for having perv images, so why not make it suck even more by adding > a "Swat Cats" message board? I don't like that logic. You have gotten complaints, to the list long ago when they went up and from me via E-mail; In a moment of righteous indignation and in an attempt to make myself look good, I described them as disgusting and repulsive, remember? (To which you replied "I like them.") My position on the perv stuff is that it's fine for whoever wants to look at them, and should stay up as an integral part of Kats fandom. Whoever is offended has no one to blame but themselves for downloading them. I think I've only looked at them once or twice each, to satisfy my curiousity, and mark them off as "read" in the files (you know, change the blue lettering to purple.) like all SWAT Kats images at rat.org. Can't think of what the second download was for... But whether or not the perv images make rat.org look bad is a matter of opinion. I think they do, and I think creating a link to a less than perfect site is a far lesser "crime", the advantages of which outweigh any harm. I think we're divided here (No duh.) and the contradiction is evident. You don't want to creat the link, but you do want to keep the images (And the perv stuff is just an example I'm using. I want them to stay too.) You're not making the link because of your opinion against it, but, as you imply, the perv images already suck, but you keep them? My opinion yet again: Perv images bad for rat.org, possible link good. In my mind, the link would improve rat.org by exapanding fandom and the others reason I've given. The only Logic I dislike here is what you're offering: Your opinions as absolutes. Ratman, I've probably made you mad at me a lot of times before with my suggestions, and you've been kind enough to not come down on me hard. I am simply standing up for an opinion of mine, and I would hope that that in itself doesn't make you hate me. (I say sweating profusely.) BTW, I've only gotten one vote thus far, a conditional from a person who shall remain anonymous. I'll accept it as a no to what I originally proposed, and a yes to what it describes, which I'll post about soon as an amendment or rewrite to the original link proposition. The other 2 votes were more or less made before I made the poll. One by myself, and another against by Ratman. I haven't made plans for any additional description of voter turnout until the vote is complete, nor do I know the minimum number of votes to count, or what to do in the case of a tie. Suggestions? And I thought I'd run a description of what I foresee such a link as being: "_Comments?_" or something similar would be one of the directories at the SWAT Kats resource page. Clicking it would lead here: The Sci-Fi Channel has a comment board devoted to SWAT Kats (Unfortunately still spelled "SWAT Cats") If you have any positive comments to make about the series or would like to check out what others have said, click _here_. No biggy. Lots of sights have something like this, and this would allow one at rat.org without having to go to the bother of creating a whole new one. For or against? Vote at the address below. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 28 19:27:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA17759 for kats-ll; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 19:08:18 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA17754 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 19:08:13 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA14421; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 19:13:53 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 19:13:52 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Poll for new Kats link In-Reply-To: <199603281846.NAA05102@underdog.maxie.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hey, maxie! on your site you said that "All the good internet addresses are taken". Well, I don't see a www.swatkats.com on the net, do you? A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 28 20:25:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA21793 for kats-ll; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 20:02:29 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA21781 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 20:02:22 -0500 Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA06143 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 20:02:48 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 20:02:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199603290102.UAA06143@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@underdog.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: Poll for new Kats link Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 07:13 PM 3/28/96 -0500, you wrote: >Hey, maxie! on your site you said that "All the good internet addresses >are taken". Well, I don't see a www.swatkats.com on the net, do you? Heh heh. Well, maybe not, but megakat.maxie.com *IS* a valid I-net address. It just under construction at the moment. When it's open to the public, I'll post an announcement. Till then, I'll deny it exists. Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 28 21:48:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA27097 for kats-ll; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 21:26:01 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA27066 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 21:25:33 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d147.infoserve.net [199.175.157.147]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA08584 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 18:43:51 -0800 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 18:43:51 -0800 Message-Id: <199603290243.SAA08584@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Katsite is a Ratocracy - not Democracy... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Seems that there's a little bit of confusion as to the nature of Rat's site. Let me resolve it. It's Rat's machine, and he's providing space to the Katfans for archives and a central repository for fanfic and the like because he wants to. Essentially, if he doesn't want to add something, it won't be added. End of Story. Though suggestions for new links (and support of same) are obviously put forth with the best of intentions, any "vote" taking place will be similar to asking what colour you'd like to paint the neighbour's car. If you don't own it, you can't paint it. (wow. my first conflict resolution since taking up the reins. I need a drink.) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 28 23:16:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA05114 for kats-ll; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:03:13 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA05106 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:03:08 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA42502; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 22:03:01 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603290403.AA42502@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Katsite is a Ratocracy - not Democracy... To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 22:03:01 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199603290243.SAA08584@unix.infoserve.net> from "chance" at Mar 28, 96 06:43:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1534 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Seems that there's a little bit of confusion as to the nature of Rat's site. > me resolve it. It's Rat's machine, and he's providing space to the Katfans > for archives and a central repository for fanfic and the like because he Others will be glad that you pointed this out for them, but I never was questioning it to begin with. Beleive me, I'm as grateful as anybody for Ratman dedicating himself and hardware to the task. If that simple fact has somehow gotten lost in the squabble, then I apologize. But I do want Ratman to know the opinion of myself and others before deciding entirely on the matter. I have a right to argue my case, don't I? And as my wicked act of making pivate E-mail public, demonstrates, I thought Ratman had agreed to the poll with the implication that his mind wasn't entirely made up on the matter. When he rejected it initially, I decided that it was unlikely to change, and then his suggestion on the poll made me suspect otherwise. I'll contine the poll with some amendments just to see how it turns out, and I want it clear to everyone that voting is unlikley to change anything, but few a seconds out of your day to make such a vote won't necessarily kill anyone. It *will* show how |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Mar 28 23:59:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA06412 for kats-ll; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:42:58 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA06406 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:42:53 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA65060; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 22:42:51 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603290442.AA65060@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Katsite is a Ratocracy - not Democracy... To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 22:42:51 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9603290403.AA42502@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> from "Kevin L. Knoles" at Mar 28, 96 10:03:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 648 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > your day to make such a vote won't necessarily kill anyone. It *will* show ho That's the second time one of my posts has been cut short for some reason. Maybe it isn't saving properly. Odd that my .sig made it through. What I said after that was something along the lines of how "people feel about my suggestion. Opinions? E-Mail Me!" |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 29 00:55:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA19878 for kats-ll; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 00:53:04 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA19869 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 00:53:00 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.45] (dyn1045a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.45]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id MAA04823 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 12:54:11 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 12:51:23 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: SWAT Kats music Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I think that one of SWAT Kats best features is its music, it changes according to the scene. Example: The scene when Jake and Chance leave the Enforcer and then stranded in the junkyard, the music is life changing. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 29 01:09:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA19930 for kats-ll; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 00:53:12 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA19887 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 00:53:09 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.45] (dyn1045a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.45]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id MAA04849 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 12:54:23 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 12:51:33 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Last names... (Was Re: The vortex scene on "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice".) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Ahem . . . I *know* this is also sorta off-topic but I kinda resent this >remark about South Korea. If you haven't noticed from my last name, it's >Chang, and that's Oriental, and my family specifically is from South Korea. >So please, don't comment on how bad they are, okay? Please? Hmm, last names. We know that Felina's last name is "Feral". But do we really know the guys's last name? >Okay, *NOW* we return you to on-topic SWAT Kats discussion. > >Terra Chang: ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 29 01:39:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA22377 for kats-ll; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 01:36:03 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA22372 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 01:35:59 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.94] (dyn1094a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.94]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id NAA07217 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:37:13 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:34:23 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Katsite is a Ratocracy - not Democracy... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> your day to make such a vote won't necessarily kill anyone. It *will* show ho > > That's the second time one of my posts has been cut short for some reason. >Maybe it isn't saving properly. Odd that my .sig made it through. What I said >after that was something along the lines of how "people feel about my >suggestion. Opinions? E-Mail Me!" Er, what is your suggestion? >Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 29 04:55:29 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id EAA04222 for kats-ll; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 04:46:04 -0500 Received: from [164.67.22.38] (ts34-9.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.38]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id EAA04209 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 04:45:56 -0500 X-Sender: rat1@bort.mv.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 01:46:20 -0800 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: Kat stuph Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Unable to make time to visit (due to running around and joining yet another mailing list comprised of some of my high school alumni) I haven't been able to do much other than just glance at the most recent digest. But here are a few comments on some of its material: The SWAT Cats Sci-Fi Channel page: I checked it out and am personally nonplussed with it, especially given that it's only got one posting and no responses. I don't think it's really worth adding a link to it, so I'm not going to to do it from any of the Kats' pages on rat.org or my personal web page on venom.st.hmc.edu. If you want to link to it from any of your own web pages, feel free to do so. But I won't do it from any of mine. Max's SK site: "www.megakat.com" works (perhaps "www.megakat.gov" might be better, tho it could get us in trouble with the government ;-), but somehow I'd like to see something like "www.pumadyne.com," if it hasn't already been taken. Rat.org was at one time aliased to pumadyne, and in fact I have it aliased on my bookmarks as pumadyne (although the actual site is 'rat.org'). Disappearing Kats: Checked out a Kay Bee in Glendale yesterday and saw two Dark Kat figurines, each selling for something like $6.99 (down from $8.99 when I first saw 'em at the store). The two figures were the only ones in the store, so I suspect the store may be clearing out the merchandise. And no, please don't ask me to get the figures for you because the store I saw them in was a good 45 minute to an hour drive from my place, so I don't plan on going back there any time soon. I'll comment on the other digests when I've got time. Until then... -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia "I was raised to always offer my seat to a lady..." -- Razor From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 29 08:41:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA17980 for kats-ll; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 08:31:26 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA17975 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 08:31:21 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.148] (dyn1148a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.148]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id UAA26478 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 20:32:34 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 20:29:44 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Kat stuph Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >The SWAT Cats Sci-Fi Channel page: I checked it out and am personally >nonplussed with it, especially given that it's only got one posting and no >responses. Why don't we post one there? >I don't think it's really worth adding a link to it, so I'm not >going to to do it from any of the Kats' pages on rat.org or my personal web >page on venom.st.hmc.edu. If you want to link to it from any of your own >web pages, feel free to do so. But I won't do it from any of mine. What is this "link" that everyone is talking about? >Max's SK site: "www.megakat.com" works (perhaps "www.megakat.gov" might be >better, tho it could get us in trouble with the government ;-), Well, judging on how Manx run the city, I think that "www.megakat.com" is just perfect. >I'll comment on the other digests when I've got time. Until then... > > >-- >=================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== > Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia >"I was raised to always offer my seat to a lady..." -- Razor ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 29 16:34:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA26465 for kats-ll; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:16:39 -0500 Received: from pimaia2y.prodigy.com (pimaia2y.prodigy.com [192.207.105.55]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA26459 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:16:36 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2y.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA69246 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:06:21 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:05:22 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-085.43] Message-Id: <096.04726404.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: SWAT Kats music Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Edo wrote: >I think that one of SWAT Kats best features is its music, it changes according to the scene. >Example: The scene when Jake and Chance leave the Enforcer and then stranded in the junkyard, > the music is life changing. BRIAN PIERCE IS AWESOME! (if I've spelled his name right, that would be cool too . . .). I'm a bit of a new Queen fan, especially after the Highlander movie I just saw. Brian loves those high guitar solos--which is quite noticable in the opener of season 1 (didn't care too much for season 2) and in the scene Edo's mentioned. Also, that "life changing" sad music he was talking about is repeated a few times in season 1. Catch it again in the beginning of "The Metallikats", when Feral is talking to the guy who escaped the burning building. and he says, "Mac and Molly have been dead for months" it kicks up real high. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 29 16:50:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA26672 for kats-ll; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:20:34 -0500 Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA26666 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:20:31 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA19492 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:17:53 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:16:54 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-085.43] Message-Id: <096.04727154.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Need help with sequel and Abi pics! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hi guys, I NEED ABI PICKS! (I'm talking about Dr. Sinian). IF ANYONE CAN GET THEY'RE TV SCREENS SCANNED IT WOULD BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED! The story is I've been drawing pretty much ALL the characters from "Children of the Stone" except her, and it's getting a bit frustrating. Moving on, As pretty much all of you must know by now, "Children of the Stone" is up on the rat site. I'm currently working on the sequel, and as far as the plot goes I've got it down all right. I need your reactions to the original. I made a lot of character development changes in "Children . . ." and I want to know if anyone agrees with them and what they'd like to see more of. Especially the Pastmaster--I realized when "Children" was all ready sent that his character wasn't written in to do much, and I'm doing my best to change that and at least make him a bit more evil in the sequel. Did anyone notice? Does anyone care? Also, I'm working real hard on building the Abi/Jake and Chance/Felina relationships, but I'm trying to take it slow so I won't overwhelm th reader by throwing all this romance they've never seen before in their face. Any comments, critizims, or QUESTIONS would be appreciated. I realize the history and flashback stuff was probably confusing, but I DID make it so it lines up right with "The Bride of the Pastmaster" episode. I realize there were probably a few holes or things I didn't bother to explain in the plot, so TELL ME PLEASE and I'll make sure it's covered or changed in the sequel. Thanks a lot! Please send ANY comments! Dr. Jake PS. I think I may have access to a scanner very shortly (in the next few weeks). If I can I will send rat some pics I drew: Felina as a gargoyle Chance/T- Bone as a gargoyle Jake with his sword of Ecuador Thoran Chip and Jumicus. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 29 17:05:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA27392 for kats-ll; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:37:33 -0500 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA27380 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:37:30 -0500 Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.5/merit-2.0) with SMTP id QAA05114 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:37:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa12722; 29 Mar 96 16:41 EST Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <315C8321@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Fri, 29 Mar 96 16:41:05 PST From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: "'Kats list'" Subject: RE: Last names... Date: Sun, 17 Mar 96 05:08:00 PST Message-ID: <315C8321@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 12 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Hmm, last names. We know that Felina's last name >is "Feral". But do we really now the guys's last name? Huh? Do you mean Jake "Clawson" and Chance "Furlong"? -Matt mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us mweb@mich.com http://www.mich.com/~mweb From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 29 18:49:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA07765 for kats-ll; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 18:38:20 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA07760 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 18:38:17 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.216] (dyn1095a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.95]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id GAA17092 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 06:39:21 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 06:36:41 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Last names... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Hmm, last names. We know that Felina's last name >>is "Feral". But do we really now the guys's last name? > >Huh? >Do you mean Jake "Clawson" and Chance "Furlong"? Are you sure those are their last name? Those could be their middle name. > -Matt >mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us >mweb@mich.com >http://www.mich.com/~mweb ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 29 19:33:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA11694 for kats-ll; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 19:20:43 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA11683 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 19:20:40 -0500 Received: from net-1-061.austin.eden.com (net-1-061.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.61]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id SAA27053 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 18:20:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 18:20:29 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603300020.SAA27053@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Last names... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Are you sure those are their last name? Those could be their middle name. >------------------------------------- >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >"A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." EDO!!!! How could "Furlong" and "Clawson" be middle names? They SOUND like last names to me, how about the rest of you out there? And anyway, those two names are real-life last names, why can't they be the names for our guys? And anyway, wouldn't a middle name be something like a first name? (Example: MY middle name's Michelle. Surprised?) I really, really, *REALLY* very strongly believe those are last names. (But if they're not . . . hmm . . . Jake Clawson Lewsi? Naaaahhhhhh.) Well, like I said before, I really think those are their last names. (I did it! I changed my sig.! It has more in common with the AR list, but I got it from Calvin & Hobbes, and Hobbes is a tiger, so isn't that close enough? And I rilly miss Calvin & Hobbes, almost as much as the SK!! Not to mention Anne says there might not be any more VC's after MtD. Is *everything* I like either cancelling or stopping?) Oh well . . . Later. Terra Chang: writer and poet SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 29 20:54:05 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA15602 for kats-ll; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 20:27:03 -0500 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com (emout08.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.23]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA15597 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 20:27:01 -0500 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA19582 for kats@bort.mv.net; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 20:26:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 20:26:55 -0500 Message-ID: <960329202655_259530654@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Poll for new Kats link Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Heh. I mentioned this a long time ago, and haven't been to the Dominion in >a long time. When I first connected to the Dominion, you had to register >with them in order to be able to post anything. That may have changed by >now-- like I said, I haven't been there in a *long* time. > >Unfortunately, we can't link to the CTN stuff on AOL.. When I was using up >some freebie time I noticed there was quite a bit of traffic about SK. If I >remember correctly, the SK forum had the 4th (I think) largest number of >posts (behind Flintstones, Scooby & Jetsons, I think). Can someone back me >on this? Well, I checked today. I think they were 6th :P They removed a lot of the posts though. And if anybody wants anything from the TCN area on AOL just e- me and I'll do my best. Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa Anne ACK!! STATES!!! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 29 22:25:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA23445 for kats-ll; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:18:08 -0500 Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA23433 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:18:04 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA16728 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:17:45 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:16:46 EST From: XXRJ13C@Prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-085.43] Message-Id: <096.04752454.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Need help with sequel and Abi pics! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> The story is I've been drawing pretty much ALL the characters from >>"Children of the Stone" except her, and it's getting a bit >>frustrating. >Yeah, my friend Courtney agrees with you. For the past few months she's been >bugging me to print out some pictures of both Chance and T-Bone so she can >improve her drawings of him. She's pretty much a pro at Jake. (Why not? He's >our favorite character!) He IS the easiest to draw--he's got those 'classic' sideburns you see on a LOT of cartoon characters, especially H-B. >> I need your reactions to the original. I made a lot of character >>development >>changes in "Children . . ." and I want to know if anyone agrees with >>them >>and what they'd like to see more of. >I really liked the story, though I'm not sure I liked the mergeing between >Chance and Felina and their gargolye counterparts. (Sorry, can't remember >names.) Charon and Dathena. You'll get used to it. The thing is I couldn't really figure out what to do with Chance, to make his character more interesting, and I think gargoyles are just AWESOME. I actually took me a while to get the idea to do it to Felina too. I can understand if it's pretty hard to visualize it, so I've going to work on getting access to a scanner to get my drawings up. BTW, I know this isn't in the story because I didn't have time to change it before I turned it in, but Felina is a gray gargoyle at night. I just thought that worked better. >Actually, I liked what you did to him in "Children." But I was kinda >surprised that you made him Saruaman the White from (lemme guess) J. R.R. >Tolkein's Lord of the Rings. (And yes, even though I do seem kinda strange >at times, I have read all of his works concerning Middle Earth.) But there's >something wrong with making him Saruaman. He was killed by Wormtongue at the >end of Return of the King, remember? Of course. Sauraman the Pastmaster is dead--didn't you know that? In Lopinenean terms, death isn't the end of living. You can get along just fine in the right position. After his death, Sauraman the White was picked up by the Isatari and became Lopinenean. I haven't read ALL the works, but I read The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings. >> Also, >>I'm >>working real hard on building the Abi/Jake and Chance/Felina >>relationships, >>but I'm trying to take it slow so I won't overwhelm th reader by >>throwing all >>this romance they've never seen before in their face. >Yeah, go slow. I have a little bit of romantic tension in my current story >project--and if I ever finish it, I hope it doesn't leave everyone all confused. Actually, Abi and Jake just kind of "like each other" until well into the sequel. Same with Felina and Chance. One thing all writers should watch out for: NO SEX. Don't stick it in. At least not until you've built up the relationship over several stories and several hundred kilobytes. An unamed SK fanfic author . . . all right it was B-KO . . . didn't follow these restrictions and . . . well . . . >Well, I've already figured out you used Frith from Watership Down, and I'm >pretty sure Saruaman was from the Lord of the Rings . . . can I use some of >your ideas? (Right now, floating in the back of my mind is a sorta >cross-over idea between WD and SK. And cross-overs for all sortsa stuff!) If you want to right a WD/SK crossover go ahead, I'm not Richard Adams, but I'm not quite sure how you're going to mix two kat pilots with a bunch of rabbits. As as far as using Lopine and Lopineneans goes, I'm going to have to say no. There's more to Lopine in the stories that I've built it up to than you can ever imagine. I am willing, if you'd really like to learn, to e-mail you and tell you all kinds of neat info and background. If you REALLY want it in your stories, however, then I'm going to have to clear and revise everything you write. Wanna discuss it? Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 29 22:44:03 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA24025 for kats-ll; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:38:04 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA24020 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:38:00 -0500 Received: from net-1-061.austin.eden.com (net-1-047.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.47]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id VAA09194 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 21:37:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 21:37:56 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603300337.VAA09194@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Need help with sequel and Abi pics! X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >He IS the easiest to draw--he's got those 'classic' sideburns you see >on a LOT of >cartoon characters, especially H-B. He's also, (and I quote Courtney, who usually thinks boys came from the other side of the universe) "Soooooooooooooo cuuuuuuuuuuuuute!!!!!!" >Charon and Dathena. You'll get used to it. The thing is I couldn't >really >figure out what to do with Chance, to make his character more >interesting, and >I think gargoyles are just AWESOME. I actually took me a while to get >the idea >to do it to Felina too. I can understand if it's pretty hard to >visualize it, so I've >going to work on getting access to a scanner to get my drawings up. >BTW, I know >this isn't in the story because I didn't have time to change it >before I turned >it in, but Felina is a gray gargoyle at night. I just thought that >worked better. I think that gargolyes are cool too, but I wouldn't go THAT far . . . (and you're getting this from the girl who daydreams about SK during classes at school . . .) >Of course. Sauraman the Pastmaster is dead--didn't you know that? In >Lopinenean >terms, death isn't the end of living. You can get along just fine in >the right position. >After his death, Sauraman the White was picked up by the Isatari and >became >Lopinenean. > >I haven't read ALL the works, but I read The Hobbit and Lord of the >Rings. Do it. They're very good. But then, I say that about a lot of books. (Anyone want a list? Just kidding.) Intresting about whatcha did 'bout Sauraman--tho I wasn't too fond of his character in LotR. >Actually, Abi and Jake just kind of "like each other" until well into >the >sequel. Same with Felina and Chance. One thing all writers should >watch out >for: NO SEX. Don't stick it in. At least not until you've built up >the relationship >over several stories and several hundred kilobytes. An unamed SK >fanfic >author . . . all right it was B-KO . . . didn't follow these >restrictions and . . . >well . . . Whoa . . . when did *that* happen? Hello? B-Ko? What's goin' on in that crazy head o' yours? >If you want to right a WD/SK crossover go ahead, I'm not Richard >Adams, >but I'm not quite sure how you're going to mix two kat pilots with a >bunch >of rabbits. Not exactly *that* far . . . I was thinking of taking the characters like Hazel, Fiver (Fiver! I like him . . . he's my favorite.) etc. and changing them from rabbits into kats. And since Fiver's the visionary type with a lotta cryptic prophecies . . . right up my alley! > As as far as using Lopine and Lopineneans goes, I'm going to have >to say >no. There's more to Lopine in the stories that I've built it up to >than you can >ever imagine. I am willing, if you'd really like to learn, to e-mail >you >and tell you all kinds of neat info and background. If you REALLY >want it in >your stories, however, then I'm going to have to clear and revise >everything you >write. Wanna discuss it? Ahhhh, why not? Sure! I've got another holiday coming up this Friday, (But you can e-mail me before then) and we can work it out. But what I really meant by "using your ideas" was Can I use your idea of mixing the Lapine (RA's word, not mine) and kat culture. I may develop my own set of myths and that sorta junk for my kats universe. (Run for cover, everybody!!) And anyway, besides SK and AR, I am a big fan of superstition, mythology, and the supernatural. (THAT explains my fascination with AR . . .) > Dr. Jake BTW, DJ, from now on, let's keep this off the list. Some of the others might get pissed at this extra stuff. But then, I could be wrong. It is known to have happened before, many a time in the past. Terra Chang: writer and poet SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Mar 29 23:54:48 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA27852 for kats-ll; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 23:40:57 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA27847 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 23:40:53 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA59064; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:40:44 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603300440.AA59064@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: How were the Enforcers formed? To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:40:44 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 914 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net As it was once discussed here before, the Enforcers are kind of like a combination of the military and police created for the purpose of defending the megalopolis. But when and how were they formed? Has MegaKats City always been under the wrath of monsters and supervillians, and if so does that mean that some version of the Enforcers has always existed, or did the military and police merge at some point in history? Anybody construct some sort of SK's timeline, and if so what does the author have to say on this? I betcha that Megalith City's guards and soldiers were technically the first Enforcers. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 00:01:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA28172 for kats-ll; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 23:45:36 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA28165 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 23:45:32 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA14296; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:45:30 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603300445.AA14296@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Mega doesn't mean million To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:45:30 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 673 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At least not on the show it doesn't. I mean how can it? Does MegaKat City only have a populace of a million Kats (I'd say 50 million or more.), do scrambler missles really put out a trillion volts (the literal interpratation of Million Megavolts.), and what are we to make of the other uses of the term Mega? The ultimate SWAT Kats buzzword? Sounds like it to me. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 01:12:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA13262 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 01:02:24 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA13257 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 01:02:22 -0500 Received: from sl38.redding.snowcrest.net (sl38.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.134]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA13834 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:23:17 -0800 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:23:17 -0800 Message-Id: <199603300623.WAA13834@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Should we start a rumor? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > With April Fool's day coming up, I wonder, might it be a good idea to >start a rumor about SWAT Kats? Kats Fans are already upset over the >cancellation, and "news" such as this could give them hope once again, even if >it is false. Once they learn the truth, then they might be pumped full of >righteous indignation all over again. And *think* of the publicity it could >get for the show. Controversy breeds popularity. Could a rumor work toward >bringing back the show or planting a seed in the mind of a producer? >The only >thing it might cost at this point is a bad reputation, and since I don't have a >good one in the first place it wouldn't be a loss for me. If all it would cost >me is the price of being called a liar, then I'd do it for the Kats. > Do it! Just don't get the Kats fans too upset! Heck! someone does something like that to me and I'd really cuss them out and really try to hurt their pride. Then I'd resume my complex task of getting Ted's E-Mail address to EXTREMLY (to the point of homosexualliaty if I have to) affectionatly ask, cheat, trick, corner, or do anything EXTREMLY humanly (I think I'd have to be extra nice to this @$#% in the &*$% mud. Mabye others would join me in my quest (hint: I'm quite sure that Ted and Turner are not part of his E-mail address, but it's probably like, @Turner.com) and if you do start at the top, remember. You have to be his slave, pawn, loyal subject and all that crap. If we do any April Fools gags, try to make it a bit unrealistic, so we dopn't get hammered all that bad. ______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." ______________________________________________________ Just one question, WHO AM I????????????????????????????SHISH! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 01:22:03 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA13561 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 01:17:21 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA13553 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 01:17:17 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.45] (dyn1045a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.45]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id NAA02065 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 13:18:32 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 13:15:41 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Mega doesn't mean million Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Mega has a lot of meanings in the Kats world. >Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu BTW, is it just me or does MegaKat look different in "Unlikely Alloys"? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 01:25:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA13560 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 01:17:19 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA13544 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 01:17:15 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.45] (dyn1045a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.45]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id NAA02060 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 13:18:29 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 13:15:38 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: How were the Enforcers formed? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > As it was once discussed here before, the Enforcers are kind of like a >combination of the military and police created for the purpose of defending the >megalopolis. But when and how were they formed? Has MegaKats City always been >under the wrath of monsters and supervillians, and if so does that mean that >some version of the Enforcers has always existed, or did the military and >police merge at some point in history? Could it be that the Enforcer is somekind of special task force? We know that there is a Police Departement around. BTW, could it be that the "C" in "M. C. P. D" are spelled wrong? >Anybody construct some sort of SK's timeline, and if so what does the >author have to say on this? Who is the one that you are refering to? And remember, Time is relative in the SWAT Kats universe. >I betcha >that Megalith City's guards and soldiers were technically the first Enforcers. Is MegaLith city the same city? Is MegaKat the same city? Is MegaKat gonna changes its name again (If it was MegaLith.) ? Is there a city before MegaLith? BTW, I think that the guards and soldiers were just regular policeman. We haven't see a Feral yet in MegaLith city. >Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 01:36:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA13550 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 01:17:17 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA13538 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 01:17:12 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.45] (dyn1045a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.45]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id NAA02057 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 13:18:26 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 13:15:36 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Last names... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Are you sure those are their last name? Those could be their middle name. > >>------------------------------------- >>Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >>"A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." > > >EDO!!!! How could "Furlong" and "Clawson" be middle names? Actually Terra, any name can be a middle name. >They SOUND like >last names to me, how about the rest of you out there? Well, those names does sound like last name to me too. That's why I ask this question. >And anyway, those two >names are real-life last names, why can't they be the names for our guys? They could be the last name for the guys, but do we really know for sure that they are the guys's last name? >And anyway, wouldn't a middle name be something like a first name? Actually, a middle name is name that come after a first name, so it could be anything. >(Example: MY middle name's Michelle. Surprised?) Nope. Surprised? >I really, really, *REALLY* very >strongly believe those are last names. (But if they're not . . . hmm . . . >Jake Clawson Lewsi? Naaaahhhhhh.) >Well, like I said before, I really think those are their last names. Yeah, unfortunately we will never know for sure. Unless they bring the guys's family relative or something like that. >Terra Chang: >writer and poet >SWAT Kats lover >Anne Rice fan ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 01:54:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA13654 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 01:24:31 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA13649 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 01:24:28 -0500 Received: from sl38.redding.snowcrest.net (sl38.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.134]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA14445 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:45:18 -0800 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:45:18 -0800 Message-Id: <199603300645.WAA14445@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: SWAT Kats LOUD Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > If you watch SWAT Kats on a small mono TV, then you are missing out on a >the true listening experience. I don't own any kind of spectacular system >here myself (a 13 mono TV and recently broken mono VCR are about it for me.), >but back at home we have a stereo VCR hooked up to an amp and some pretty big >speakers. When I'm home I put my videos, especially the prerecordeds in, set >the base a couple notches higher, and crank it up. SWAT Kats, dare I say more >than any other animated series, can utilize big sound to its fullest extent. What I do is tape the shows onto a non-video tape, put on my headphones and crank it up to ten. Sure, my headphones suck, my tapes are in mono (due to the fact my tv is mono and I can only record in mono), but through all the headphone distortion, it's the coolest thing since I first started my extremist craze on SWAT Kats! >For starters, the soundtrack totally rocks. Tell us something we don't know? favourite music would be putting the whole series down! > Just listen to the flight sequence Just listen to any part! It's cool wherever! >early on in Night of the Dark Kat, the music played during the Macrobots, >the Megasaurous Rex attack, and about a dozen other incredible sounding scenes. >At the risk of sounding cliched, its a rush, a real pulse pounding trip. High >Volume Kats music is like no other, that's for sure. Low volume cuts it down. Make sure you're the only one home if you turn it up. (and I mean WAY up!) > And it's not just the music either, but the subtle sound FX that come >through in high volume. All the details are amplified as if I myself were a >Kat with ears perked, ready to catch everything and anything that can be >listened to. The sound of feet - I mean paws - touching the ground, the clink >of a guard's keys, and all the other little nuances that the sound engineers go >out of their way to provide. And then there's the already loud stuff: The >blare of the SWAT Kats alert buzzer, the roar of the TurboKats engines, and Oh, >*those*explosions*. With high volume stereo, it's like you're there, right in >the middle of all the action. If only movie theater style speakers could be turned up all the way on this show........ (hee, he!) ______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." ______________________________________________________ Just one question, WHO AM I????????????????????????????SHISH! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 03:55:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id DAA22734 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 03:51:17 -0500 Received: from [164.67.21.134] (ts16-9.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.20.86]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id DAA22725 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 03:51:05 -0500 X-Sender: rat1@bort.mv.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 00:51:20 -0800 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: Kat stuff Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Jake and Chance's last names (Clawson and Furlong, respectively): The Secret Files have them listed as two names (no middle names), and they've referred to themselves that way throughout the series. Case in point: "A Bright and Shiny Future" -- "It's me, Pops, Chance! Chance Furlong... and this is my buddy Jake..." However, it's possible that either Jake or Chance could be a middle name rather than a first name, and I think this is more likely than either Clawson or Furlong being a middle name. And as far as I can tell, these are actual surnames. On Megakat City: on the anecdotal side, I recently rented the video of "Judge Dredd" and noticed the name of the city: "Mega City." Needless to say, you can figure out for yourself what I thought of every time I heard the city's name mentioned in the movie. On starting a "rumor" to popularize the show: I don't think it'd be a good idea to do so. Why? Well, while a rumor would generate attention, we want to make sure that it's the *right* kind of attention. We don't want to give the people in charge (aka Turner et. al.) another reason for making sure that the show stays dead. Don't forget that the effect of rumors can go both ways. BTW, a comment on the FAQ: I'm going to update the FAQ at most about twice a month, once in the beginning and once at the end. Please *don't* ask me to update it any more than that. Among the things in the next update that I'll be adding: - SWAT Kats schedule change on the Cartoon Network. (I'll have to add this to the web pages that I've done, too.) - Possible HTML conversion. I'll do this when I have time (so we'll have an HTMLized FAQ rather than a text-only one). I'll probably have a text-only version available for those who don't have access to a web browser, but the HTMLized version will likely be the more updated version. If you have any suggestions for improving the web pages that I've done, feel free to send email. -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia "I was raised to always offer my seat to a lady..." -- Razor From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 04:10:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id DAA22942 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 03:58:53 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id DAA22937 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 03:58:49 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.32] (dyn1032a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.32]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id QAA07045 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:00:01 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 15:57:12 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats LOUD Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Well, one thing for sure, if there's gonna be a SWAT Kats movie, the sound of the movie is surely gonna be different. ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 09:09:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA09234 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 09:03:35 -0500 Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA09229 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 09:03:33 -0500 Received: from tole-cs-2.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-2.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.102]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id IAA07570 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 08:56:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 08:56:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199603301356.IAA07570@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: That Krappy SF Site Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Yes. I agree with everyone that the content of the SF thing sucks. But it sucks because someone hit the 'enter new listing(whatever)', spelled Kats wrong, and didn't put anything worthwhile there. Since that site seems to be fed by user input, WE CAN TAKE CONTROL OF IT!!! (f-minor diminished chord, arpeggiated, plus maniacal laughter here) Ratman doesn't need to add a link to this site. As has been stated, it's his machine and he's doing us all a big favor. What I'd propose is that we put some worthwhile stuff there, and add a signature like "to see some great pix and fics- link to ..." That way, we might get some more fans to pester Tedco for more episodes. --------------------- Paul Kemner | "Many people appear to imagine that they cannot Toledo, Ohio | afford to have artistic surroundings, whereas pkemner@bright.net | the wonder is that they can afford so much --------------------- expensive ugliness." M. H. Baillie Scott From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 09:20:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA09463 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 09:14:37 -0500 Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA09458 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 09:14:34 -0500 Received: from tole-cs-2.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-2.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.102]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id JAA08088 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 09:07:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 09:07:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199603301407.JAA08088@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Middle Names, Last Names Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Sometimes a middle name can be your mother's last name. That's how I got my middle name. But I'm pretty sure that the names should be Furlong & Clawson. After all, they at least fit the cat-pun pattern, and one's a suburb of Detroit! BTW- is anyone working on a Kats / Kzin encounter story? I'm starting to kick around the idea of an Anime/Kats crossover - KatLabor - Maybe I can get PumaDyne to re-open their MegaMecha division. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 11:43:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA16904 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 11:36:33 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA16899 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 11:36:30 -0500 Received: from net-4-140.austin.eden.com (net-4-140.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.140]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id KAA24911 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 10:36:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 10:36:27 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603301636.KAA24911@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Mega doesn't mean million X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > At least not on the show it doesn't. I mean how can it? Does MegaKat City >only have a populace of a million Kats (I'd say 50 million or more.), do >scrambler missles really put out a trillion volts (the literal interpratation of >Million Megavolts.), and what are we to make of the other uses of the term >Mega? The ultimate SWAT Kats buzzword? Sounds like it to me. I don't know how many citizens Megakat City has, but I'm sure that in "Caverns of Horror," when Feral is chiding Felina for letting Ann disappear in front of all the people watching (like us!) his exact words were: "Did you have to let a member of the press disappear in front of two million viewers?" To which she replies "Don't worry, Uncle. I'll get her back," or something like that. A buzzword? I'm sorry, I've been sleeping very late these past few days. Is that like a password? > |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| > | | | | > \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / > \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ > Terra Chang: writer and poet SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 11:54:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA18089 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 11:49:11 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA18084 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 11:49:02 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.146] (dyn1146a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.146]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id XAA19955 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 23:49:58 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 23:47:12 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Need help with sequel Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Whoa . . . when did *that* happen? I think that DJ was refering to the scene in Ryan's "Midnight Magic part 3". >Hello? B-Ko? What's goin' on in that crazy head o' yours? > >> Dr. Jake > >Terra Chang: >writer and poet >SWAT Kats lover >Anne Rice fan ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 13:11:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA21774 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 12:55:24 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA21769 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 12:55:18 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA04383 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 10:14:51 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 10:14:51 -0800 Message-Id: <199603301814.KAA04383@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Last names... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Are you sure those are their last name? Those could be their middle name. > >>------------------------------------- >>Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >>"A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." > > >EDO!!!! How could "Furlong" and "Clawson" be middle names? They SOUND like >last names to me, how about the rest of you out there? Um, I really hope this isn't a newsflash, but yeah..the katguys last names are (wait for it) "Clawson" and "Furlong" (get it? It's a kat-gag kinda thing....oh, never mind). If the sarcasm didn't shine through coupled with a healthy dose of "well...DUUUH!", then picture Gilbert Gottfried leaning close into your face - eyes all a-squinty - and knock-knocking on your forehead shouting "Hello? HELLO!" in Iago-speak. ("Jake C. Turner and Chance F. Seibert"? Naaah...I just can't see it.) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 13:28:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA23392 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 13:16:15 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA23387 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 13:16:12 -0500 Received: from net-4-140.austin.eden.com (net-4-140.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.140]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id MAA29197 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 12:16:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 12:16:08 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603301816.MAA29197@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Last names... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Um, I really hope this isn't a newsflash, but yeah..the katguys last names are >(wait for it) "Clawson" and "Furlong" (get it? It's a kat-gag kinda thing....oh, >never mind). Oh, I get it. I noticed it from the very beginning. (Anne Gora? That's a type of cat in the real world, not to mention a type of sweater. Callico? Calico? Ha. Don't worry, I get it.) >If the sarcasm didn't shine through coupled with a healthy dose of "well...DUUUH!", >then picture Gilbert Gottfried leaning close into your face - eyes all a-squinty - and >knock-knocking on your forehead shouting "Hello? HELLO!" in Iago-speak. Hey! It wasn't me! I was da one doin' da knockin'! >("Jake C. Turner and Chance F. Seibert"? Naaah...I just can't see it.) Neither can I. "Turner?" perish the thought!!!!!!! >_____________________________________________________ >"Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed > antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, > through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in > the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" >_____________________________________________________ > Terra Chang: writer and poet SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 13:40:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA23731 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 13:33:29 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA23717 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 13:33:26 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA05580 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 10:52:58 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 10:52:58 -0800 Message-Id: <199603301852.KAA05580@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats LOUD Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Well, one thing for sure, if there's gonna be a SWAT Kats movie, the sound of the movie is surely gonna be different. "SwatKats" would lend itself so well to a theatrical release (with the production values maintained - if not further improved), and if it played in similar theaters to "The Lion King" (with accompanying sound system), you'd have quite the amazing experience. Can you imagine the second season opening sequence on the big screen with that kind of sound presence? Wow. Tremblays told the Turn(er)coats that they could do a theatrical "Kats" for about 3 million (Glenn Leopold was even co-developing the story), but Turner shot it down as "too expensive". ("Too expensive"? We could've had three of 'em for the money that went up the spout for the discarded "Jonny Quest" revisions. Looks like Turner is one giant interminable April Fools Gag.) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 13:51:29 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA23834 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 13:39:59 -0500 Received: from occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net (occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net [204.71.75.187]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA23829 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 13:39:57 -0500 Received: from s09-pm02.occ-uky.campus.mci.net (s09-pm02.occ-uky.campus.mci.net [205.219.158.68]) by occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA23315 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 12:39:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 12:39:53 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603301839.MAA23315@occ-uky-01.campus.mci.net> X-Sender: mintedb@occ-uky.campus.mci.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: David Minter Subject: Re: Mega doesn't mean million Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net While I've never actually seen a definition for the prefix "mega," it's become popular to use mega as million. E.G. megahertz- one million hertz megadeath- one million deaths megaohm- one million ohms megabyte- one million bytes megaton- one million tons. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 13:55:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA23738 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 13:33:33 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA23732 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 13:33:29 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA05575 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 10:52:55 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 10:52:55 -0800 Message-Id: <199603301852.KAA05575@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Should we start a rumor? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Paul wrote (I think...Eudora ate the attribution...) >>If all it would cost >>me is the price of being called a liar, then I'd do it for the Kats. Ryan wrote: >Do it! Just don't get the Kats fans too upset! Heck! someone does something >like that to me and I'd really cuss them out and really try to hurt their >pride. > If we do any April Fools gags, try to make it a bit >unrealistic, so we dopn't get hammered all that bad. I wrote: I just pulled an AFG on "alt.tv.animaniacs", so I'm not one to talk, but be *very* careful what you post - even in fun - lest you earn us the label of 'wingnut militia'. AFG posts should at least give little hints that they're a gag, then you can always allude to them in followup posts when people start nailing you to the proverbial cross. Rec.arts.animation might be a fun place for something like that, but be advised that there's quite a few sharks in that particular pond, and you might come away with teeth-marks in your hinies. ______________________________________________________ >Just one question, WHO AM I????????????????????????????SHISH! "Who are we really? Schopenauer put forth an interesting theory...." (Obscure "Animaniacs" reference. I'll get better.) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 14:52:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA27352 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 14:43:56 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA27347 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 14:43:53 -0500 Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA05749 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 14:44:02 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 14:44:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199603301944.OAA05749@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@underdog.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: Mega doesn't mean million Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 12:39 PM 3/30/96 -0600, you wrote: > While I've never actually seen a definition for the prefix "mega," >it's become popular to use mega as million. E.G. megahertz- one million - MegaKat University Public Advisory - * The Metric System EXA (E) = 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 PETA (P) = 1,000,000,000,000,000 TERA (T) = 1,000,000,000,000 GIGA (G) = 1,000,000,000 MEGA (M) = 1,000,000 KILO (K) = 1,000 HECTO (H) = 100 DEKA (DA) = 10 DECI (D) = 0.1 CENTI (C) = 0.01 MILLI (M) = 0.001 MICRO (U) = 0.000 001 NANO (N) = 0.000 000 001 PICO (P) = 0.000 000 000 001 FEMTO (F) = 0.000 000 000 000 001 ATTO (A) = 0.000 000 000 000 000 001 And with that, the University closes its doors for the day. It *IS* a weekend, after all! :-) As you can see from the table, Mega, in its exact definition, is 1 million. Lately though what has been popular to use it to describe anything large, whether it's exactly 1 million or not. So the "Mega" in MegaKat City probably just means they consider it a very large city compared to the rest of the ones on the planet. >megabyte-one million bytes Only to hard disk manufacturers (so thier specs look better). The rest of us know a megabyte is really 1,048,576 bytes. (If I lost anyone on that one, ask me in e-mail, it'd be off topic to ask here) Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 15:27:12 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA29806 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 15:07:33 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA29801 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 15:07:30 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA46308; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 14:07:22 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603302007.AA46308@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: About the site To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 14:07:22 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2929 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net The notion of creating a link to the Dominion board site is best described as a pipe dream of mine, and my intentions were primarily for what the site could be, not what it already was. The possibility of creating any type of link *is* non-existent, which is just as well since fans have already described it as a bad idea. My apologies for not leaving well enough alone and pushing the idea too far. I won't continue to try anyones patience by discussing any type of link any further. (I was even considering putting spoiler space into this post, but I figure the subject line serves that purpose adequately.) I would remind anyone that the address in my .sig *does* however work for private discussion via E-Mail (Hint, Hint), though the term I've used repeatedly, "vote" is a misnomer as it implies than registering an opinion may get something done. It won't. Yesterday I did what I should have done long ago and created a new site that's spelled correctly: http://www.scifi.com/cgi-bin/rbox/articles.pl?1&6&344 And just yesterday a fellow posted a reply already. As Paul Kemner suggested, and as I was imagining, one (Me) or more of us might do is add to the now corrected site. In his words: On a related subject: I've been thinking about online ways to attract new fans to the show. How about picking one or more general interest topics, and having everybody post replies to rec.arts.animation, and possibly copies to this SciFi site? Even if they have already been discussed on the mailing list, posting them might create a lot of new viewers to agitate for new episodes. I was thinking about topics like: Who's your favorite SK adversary? What's the best episode in terms of animation quality? What's the best episode in terms of story line? Is SK anime or is it Anime-like? (get all us anime fans to take a look at the show so they can give their opinion). etc. etc. etc. If this has already been suggested before I joined the list, please forgive. It's not easy finding Kats on the web- most searchers didn't show anyting when I started looking. Since TCN programs usually aren't listed in newspaper TV schedules, you're not likely to know that the show is out there, what it's about, or if it's worth watching. Maybe generating some general-interest stuff on usenet would help. Paul Kemner pkemner@bright.net So, any other suggestions? I'll make some additional posts to the site, nothing too big so folks will read, and if we expand it to several posts, then we could generate some real interest, and maybe even attract some new members if the list is advertised there. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 15:42:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA00524 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 15:32:54 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA00511 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 15:32:51 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA62396; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 14:32:18 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603302032.AA62396@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Mega doesn't mean million To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 14:32:18 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199603301944.OAA05749@underdog.maxie.com> from "Max" at Mar 30, 96 02:44:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2124 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > > While I've never actually seen a definition for the prefix "mega," > >it's become popular to use mega as million. E.G. megahertz- one million > > - MegaKat University Public Advisory - [Deleted] > As you can see from the table, Mega, in its exact definition, is 1 million. > Lately though what has been popular to use it to describe anything large, > whether it's exactly 1 million or not. So the "Mega" in MegaKat City > probably just means they consider it a very large city compared to the rest > of the ones on the planet. Of all the terms listed there, two tend to be used to just mean big (Mega) and small (Micro) I have a real problem with Mega meaning the same thing on the Kat world that it does here (That is meaning million in some instances, and big in others.) since Razor *has* said "million Megavolts" In our world whenever a unit of anything is added to to either of the two prefixes, it has the numerical meaning, not an obscure specification of size. The only way I see of getting away from this is to toss the numerical meaning of mega on the Kat world out the window. Then a megavolt just means lots of juice. That still means the scrambler missle must have one heck of good transformer in it ;-> I figure MegaKat city has a populace of over 50 million for a variety of reasons. Tokyo has about 30 million, right? MegaKat City is within a comic book-like context and really big cities are commonplace there (As someone mentioned, Judge Dredd is like that.) And if the SWAT Kats' present is technologically a few decades ahead of our own, then maybe other aspects, such as population are of a future scale? Not to mention that such huge size would be needed to finance the Enforcer budget, and make sure that not all of the town is destroyed with each disaster. > Max |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 15:55:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA00820 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 15:44:44 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA00815 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 15:44:40 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA41958; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 14:44:38 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9603302044.AA41958@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Popularize SWAT Kats artwork! To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 14:44:38 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199603301944.OAA05749@underdog.maxie.com> from "Max" at Mar 30, 96 02:44:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1197 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Scanning SWAT Kats artwork and putting it up on the web will make sure it's seen by lots of people. But there is a way of letting possibly *thousands* of people who aren't necessarily on-line see it - get it printed in a magazine. Numerous magazines, be they comic book or video game mags print artwork, typically the kind that's put on envelopes. Magazines such as Wizard and Hero receive so many submissions that they can afford to be extremely choosy and only print the best of the best original artwork. Sending art to them can be risky since the likelihood of it being printed is so small. But Gaming magazines recieve much less, and they usually have no problem printing artwork that may be traced or copied. Since SWAT Kats has a SNES game available, it's on topic too. Any artists out there interested in getting your work printed? I can provide addresses if need be, just ask. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 16:45:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA03749 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:28:14 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA03744 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:28:11 -0500 Received: from bossrkf2.bossnt.com (bossrkf2.bossnt.com [198.150.207.42]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA05991 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:28:11 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:28:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199603302128.QAA05991@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: peej@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Peejster Subject: Swat Kats Comics Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Do any of you know of any Swat Kat comics? If there are any, please let me know where I can find them. Thanks!! Peej From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 16:54:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA05361 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:52:36 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA05356 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:52:33 -0500 Received: from net-6-189.austin.eden.com (net-6-189.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.189]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id PAA08427 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 15:52:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 15:52:22 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603302152.PAA08427@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Swat Kats Comics X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Do any of you know of any Swat Kat comics? If there are any, please let me >know where I can find them. Thanks!! > > Peej Unfortunately, if there are any, none of us know of it. All those big shot companies said "No" when asked to do one. Something about "cat characters not working." This is from memory from something I think it was Chance wrote about comics for the 'Kats some time ago, if anything's changed, do tell, do tell? (And this means Razor and Chance . . . hello? Please tell all?) I might get to go to a comic book store tomorrow. I'm gonna try to find TVL graphic novel, and I can look around, if you'd like. Terra Chang: writer and poet SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 17:25:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA06883 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 17:10:59 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA06873 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 17:10:54 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.140] (dyn1140a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.140]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id FAA26370 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 05:12:06 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 05:09:17 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Kat stuff Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >However, it's possible that either Jake or Chance could be a middle name >rather than a first name, and I think this is more likely than either >Clawson or Furlong being a middle name. And as far as I can tell, these >are actual surnames. Could it be that their first name (or last name) is so silly (or something that they rather not discuss.) that they don't want to said it in the front of the public? >On Megakat City: on the anecdotal side, I recently rented the video of >"Judge Dredd" and noticed the name of the city: "Mega City." Needless to >say, you can figure out for yourself what I thought of every time I heard >the city's name mentioned in the movie. I think that the word "Mega" is a common thing in the comic and superhero world. >BTW, a comment on the FAQ: I'm going to update the FAQ at most about twice >a month, once in the beginning and once at the end. Please *don't* ask me >to update it any more than that. Don't worry, a once per two weeks upgdate is always be much better than a once per six months update. >Among the things in the next update that >I'll be adding: >- Possible HTML conversion. I'll do this when I have time (so we'll have >an HTMLized FAQ rather than a text-only one). Why HTMLized a FAQ? >If you have any suggestions for improving the web pages that I've done, >feel free to send email. How about a description of SWAT Kats weapons and vehicles in the web page? >-- >=================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== > Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia >"I was raised to always offer my seat to a lady..." -- Razor ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 20:03:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA14682 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 19:39:38 -0500 Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA14677 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 19:39:34 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA16058 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 19:39:19 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 19:38:20 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-085.43] Message-Id: <096.04803217.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Need help with sequel and Abi pics! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Terra wrote: >>If you want to right a WD/SK crossover go ahead, I'm not Richard >>Adams, >>but I'm not quite sure how you're going to mix two kat pilots with a >>bunch >>of rabbits. >Not exactly *that* far . . . I was thinking of taking the characters like >Hazel, Fiver (Fiver! I like him . . . he's my favorite.) etc. and changing >them from rabbits into kats. And since Fiver's the visionary type with a >lotta cryptic prophecies . . . right up my alley! Well, rabbits into kats? I can't really say anything 'cause it ain't my right, but I'm not quite sure about that . . . >> As as far as using Lopine and Lopineneans goes, I'm going to have >>to say >>no. There's more to Lopine in the stories that I've built it up to >>than you can >>ever imagine. I am willing, if you'd really like to learn, to e- mail >>you >>and tell you all kinds of neat info and background. If you REALLY >>want it in >>your stories, however, then I'm going to have to clear and revise >>everything you >>write. Wanna discuss it? >Ahhhh, why not? Sure! I've got another holiday coming up this Friday, (But >you can e-mail me before then) and we can work it out. Tell me about holidays! Passover's on Wednesday! > But what I really >meant by "using your ideas" was Can I use your idea of mixing the Lapine >(RA's word, not mine) and kat culture. I may develop my own set of myths and >that sorta junk for my kats universe. (Run for cover, everybody!!) And >anyway, besides SK and AR, I am a big fan of superstition, mythology, and >the supernatural. (THAT explains my fascination with AR . . .) I noticed. As far as mixing Lapine of R Adams and tfhe kat world, again I can't say any- thing 'cause my name isn't Richard Adams, but if you mean LOpine (which is the culture I created) again I'm going to say no. At least until I've told you more about it. If you want to create a Lapine/kat crossover, well, that's not really my business even though I honestly don't fancy the idea after I've done it, but I won't complain. If you have any questions at any point on Lapine or Lopine, just ask me. I'm an expert at both. >BTW, DJ, from now on, let's keep this off the list. Some of the others might >get pissed at this extra stuff. But then, I could be wrong. It is known to >have happened before, many a time in the past. What I'm going to do is write up a Guide to Lopine, which I will send to you. Beware: it will only be meagerly kat-related. From there, you can tell me if you want it on the list or not--maybe to give people a chance to learn something about Lopine themselves. Dr. Jake PS> I will also be posting a FAQ guide on the list to "Children" to clear up any confusion my story may have caused. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 20:45:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA18285 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 20:35:39 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA18280 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 20:35:36 -0500 Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA06598 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 20:35:55 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 20:35:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199603310135.UAA06598@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@underdog.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: Mega doesn't mean million Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 02:32 PM 3/30/96 -0600, you wrote: > Of all the terms listed there, two tend to be used to just mean big >(Mega) and small (Micro) I have a real problem with Mega meaning the >same thing on the Kat world that it does here (That is meaning million in >some instances, and big in others.) since Razor *has* said "million Megavolts" Shouldn't cause you a problem. A million-mega is a common electronic term here too, at least it was until recently. Since giga became popular, a lot of times now you'll hear it as 1,000 giga. The same things happens on the small end of things, a pico-pico is very common, and you'll never hear someone use a nano, it's always 1000 pico. Alas, the quaint usage on the high end of things may be dying, as 'tera' is starting to take hold. I'll miss it. It's unlikely Razor (being a techno-Kat of sorts) would have used 'mega' in an abstract way, so it is likely he meant a 1 teravolt missile. (If a Katvolt = Earthvolt, OUCH!) If he'd said it as a 'teravolt missile', not only would a most of the viewers not get the meaning, it just wouldn't sound that impressive. I believe this million-million got it's start because it was an easier to understand concept than 1 tera. (1,000,000,000,000 look at all the pretty zero's!) Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 22:22:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA24631 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:10:14 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (root@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA24600 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:10:07 -0500 Received: from labi115.mlb57.ilstu.edu by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA08196; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 21:10:02 -0600 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 21:10:02 -0600 Message-Id: <9603310310.AA08196@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> X-Sender: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: "Kevin L. Knoles" Subject: Re: SWAT Kats LOUD Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 10:52 AM 3/30/96 -0800, you wrote: >"SwatKats" would lend itself so well to a theatrical release (with the production *Extremely* well. Better than any other H-B property, that's for sure. The TV feels like it's bursting at the seams trying to contain everything. >values maintained - if not further improved), and if it played in similar theaters Kats at its best was, what about $400,000 for twenty minutes of animation? (22 minus the opening and ending.) Figure an 80 minute running time, and we're talking only about 2-3 million for a decent looking film - Extremely cheap by modern American standards. And every extra cent that's spent (wisely) means more ticket sales. >to "The Lion King" (with accompanying sound system), you'd have quite the >amazing experience. Can you imagine the second season opening sequence on >the big screen with that kind of sound presence? Wow. I can and wanna cry knowing they haven't made something like this. >Tremblays told the Turn(er)coats that they could do a theatrical "Kats" for >about 3 million (Glenn Leopold was even co-developing the story), but >Turner shot it down as "too expensive". 3 million was what Batman: Mask of the Phantasm was made for, and it visually equaled the best that series had to offer despite not being animated by the most impressive studio. I also like to toss around the figure (albeit a rough one) that Akira was made for 10 million or less. Mook was one of numerous studios work animate on Akira, BTW. Funny how Turner had no problem pumping 35 million into both The Pagemaster and Swan Princess (Which both bombed in theaters.) >("Too expensive"? We could've had three of 'em for the money that went up > the spout for the discarded "Jonny Quest" revisions. Looks like Turner is >one giant interminable April Fools Gag.) Hey, tell us something we *don't* know. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 22:56:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA25194 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:42:28 -0500 Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA25189 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:42:25 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA21392 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:42:20 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:41:21 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-085.43] Message-Id: <096.04813471.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: "Children of the Stone" FAQ Guide Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net A Guide to FAQ to the "Children of the Stone" series (or DJ's attempt to keep you guys from getting COMPLETELY confused): 1. What is Lopine? What's a Lopinenean? Lopine is a culture that spreads over thousands of species and generations, and just about every story I write (SWAT Kats or seaQuest). A Lopinenean is one who believes in Lopine. QUESTIONS ON 996 C.E. 1. What happened to Ramis's wife? Why wasn't she mentioned? Did she exist? Yup. Of course she did. She wasn't, however, a critical character. There wasn't a need to have her in any scenes, as long as she's mentioned to possibly be pregnant when Ramis is put under the spell. 2. What's going on with Dathena? Dathena's Demona without PMS. Kind of. 3. What happened to her over the 1000 yrs? No, she didn't have a bunch of experiences like Demona. Dathena didn't trust Thoran when he didn't allow her to go and fight Selena and Frakes, so she secretly followed in the woods behind them. She didn't make it in time, and was not put under the spell, but was also not smashed because she didn't make it back to the castle by morning. Afterwards she was so upset she found a sorcerer to put her under the same spell. 999 yrs later, Selena found her on a dig and awoke her, possessing her. 4. How does Kehor know Thoran? Is it important? 5. What's with the Isatari and Sauraman the Pastmaster? The Isatari is a band of immortal wizards and sorcerers from all over the universe. Sauraman is one of them, and when he came to the kat planet he took kat form (legend is, he was not originally kat) and became the head of the council, a formation of weak, mortal sorcerers in the kat world, who in his opinion could barely handle magic. Shortly before Thoran became leader (date unsure) the council was disbanded over a fight between Selena and Sauraman, and the councilmen were hunted by armies from San-Adlus and Megallith. Only Frakes, Selena, and of course Sauraman survived. In "The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice" the Pastmaster is looking for his book and he says, "Curse the Council!" He says this (according to me) because it was Frakes the Councilman who took away his true Isatari powers until the spell on the gargoyles would be released. 6. What's the connection with the "Bride of the Pastmaster" episode? After the gargoyles and the two mages were turned to stone, Megallith Castle was conquered by the king of San-Aldus. His son went and started a heritage there. Meanwhile, Kehor was so impressed by Ramis's sword of Ecuador (which was not frozen with the statue because of it's magic but was caught with his hands frozen around it) that he built a duplicate, which had the same protective spells as the original but not quite the same magic. Before he died, Kehor struck it into the stone so only a son of Ecuador could remove it. In about 1192 BCE, after two hundred yrs of Dark Ages, Sauraman is buried. His future self in Megakat City 1994 (or maybe 1993) goes back and does that episode, along with the SWAT Kats. The Queen of Megallith Castle is the descendant of the King who conquered it almost 200 yrs. before. Razor, the descandant of Ramis and a Son of Ecuador, pulls the sword because of his heritage and defeats the dragon. The sword is lost, and found later by Dr. Abi Sinian in 1990. Confused yet? 7. How can Jake be a descandent of Ramis? When Ramis was put under the spell, his wife had just become pregnant. The child, without a father, became a spokey poet and philosopher. He sailed to Europe after the death of his mother and married a young Jewish girl in his travels in Poland. According to Jewish law, the child is the religion of the mom, so the child is Jewish. That's how the Clawson line is founded. 8. So Jake's Jewish? Why? Because it works out nicely later on. QUESTIONS ON 1996 AND BEYOND: 1. I still don't understand anything. How is Felina a gargoyle? Are Felina and Chance related? No. The Feral and Furlong line are not really connected. The eggs from the rookery, as Thoran explained, had three survivers. Each founded their own line. One line was definitely Furlong. Another might have been Feral, or it could have come from Felina's mom. Another line was lost. 2. Is making Hackle Jake's father being inconsistent with the show? Yeah. So? They look too much alike. And Hackle's too Jewish. 3. If they're Jewish, why don't they wear yamalkas? (kipas, skullcaps) Like I said, it was never on the show. Besides, how often do you see Jake's head uncovered on the show? Think about it. 4. Is Dr. Abi Sinian a Jew? She is in my stories. Abigail is a very Jewish name. Then again, so is Jacob. 5. Why does Hackle call Jake "Yaakov?" This was supposed to be in the original version of "Children of the Stone" but it wasn't. In the scene where Selena steals Hackle's strength, he says, " . . . Jake . . ." That's supposed to be " . . . Yaakov . . ." In the sequel he makes that clear. Yaacov is Jake's Hebrew name. 6. What's with the Abi/Jake thing? Will we see more? Sure. That's all I'm telling. 7. Is there a sequel? What's it called? There is a sequel in the works. It's called "vurturil" and for the moment I can't explain why. Read Watership Down REALLY carefully. 8. HEY! Lopine sounds like Lapine on Watership Down! Should. Lopine is a culture that sprouted form Lapine. All the rabbit stories in Watership Down are folklore for Lopineneans. 9. So Frith (or Frith-rah) is the sun, right? Uh-huh. 10. Are there any other surviving gargoyles? Other than the ones named? Yes. There were 9 (the lucky gargoyle number) chosen by Thoran for the outing to find the Koldran on that fateful evening in 996. Dathena (explained earlier) also survived to the future. That makes 10 (yes, I can count!). Here's a list: Thoran Sevian ("servian" in the original version) Charon Sevian's unnamed lover Dathena a beast-like one Jumicus an unnamed female Chip an unnamed female Why are there 4 unnamed? Because I didn't feel like naming them! You'll probably meet most of them by the end of the sequel, but until then they kind of fade into the woodwork. 11. Are you an almighty being in disguise? Glad you noticed. A TIMELINE IF YOU'RE STILL CONFUSED: unknown date - Sauraman comes to kat dimension CE 932 - Break up of the Council 955 - Thoran becomes leader when Old Thrain dies. 956 - Thoran becomes a virthuril (explained in sequel) 996 - Koldran used by Frakes and Selena to put gargoyles, Ramis and Maric to sleep. Megallith Castle conquered by San-Aldus. 997 - Jenisis, son of Ramis, is born. 996-1192 - Dark Ages, Sauraman The Pastmaster plagues Megallith with his weak magic after losing powers to Frakes. 1002 - Kehor builds memorial cave for gargoyles. He builds a copy of the sword of Ecuador and thrusts it into a rock. 1014 - Jenisis travels to Europe and converts to Judiasm, founds Clawson line. 1025 - A gargoyle who escaped from the rookery and was only an egg when Frakes spell was cast finds a sorcerer to turn him into a kat. Founds Furlong line. 1192 - The Pastmaster defeated and buried. Dark Ages end. 1193 - The Pastmaster returns from the future and is defeated by the SWAT Kats ("Bride of the Pastmaster"). The sword Razor pulled from the rock is lost. - 800 years go by - 1990 - On a dig, Dr. Abi Sinian discovers the copy of the sword of Ecuador Razor lost back in 1193. 1993 - Pastmaster is awakened. 1995 - Selena finds Dathena and wakes her up. 1996 - Dr. Sinian finds the gargoyles' cave. Other dates to be included after "Virthuril is finished and submitted. Hope this helps! If you have anymore questions, e-mail me at XXRJ13C@prodigy.com I'll add it to the list. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 23:23:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA27865 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 23:13:57 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA27858 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 23:13:54 -0500 Received: from net-6-179.austin.eden.com (net-4-158.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.158]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id WAA24572 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:13:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:13:50 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603310413.WAA24572@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: "Children of the Stone" FAQ Guide X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >A Guide to FAQ to the "Children of the Stone" series > (or DJ's attempt to keep you guys from getting > COMPLETELY confused): Oh, THANK YOU, DJ. That was just so kind. (Sorry if I sound sarcastic, I'm feeling a little bummed.) >4. How does Kehor know Thoran? > > Is it important? I dunno. I'm not the author, YOU are! >8. So Jake's Jewish? Why? > > Because it works out nicely later on. I'm sure that shall be explained in the sequel, hmmmmm? >6. What's with the Abi/Jake thing? Will we see more? > > Sure. That's all I'm telling. > There is a sequel in the works. It's called "vurturil" and >for the moment I can't explain why. Read Watership Down REALLY >carefully. I KNOW! I KNOW! I KNOW!!!! Can I e-mail you privately and tell you what I *think* it is? >9. So Frith (or Frith-rah) is the sun, right? > > Uh-huh. (Frithrah! Frith-rah= The Lord Sun! Often used as an exclamaion between rabbits) >A TIMELINE IF YOU'RE STILL CONFUSED: Surprisingly, I'm not yet. Try harder next time. >unknown date - Sauraman comes to kat dimension Whatever the date, it had to have happened *after* he was killed in Middle Earth. > "Virthuril is finished and >submitted. Isn't Virthuril the name of mmmhpgh Fivmmpo domphghg??? >Hope this helps! If you have anymore questions, e-mail me at >XXRJ13C@prodigy.com I'll add it to the list. > > Dr. Jake Terra Chang: writer and poet SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Mar 30 23:43:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA28250 for kats-ll; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 23:35:24 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA28245 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 23:35:21 -0500 Received: from net-6-179.austin.eden.com (net-4-158.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.158]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id WAA25380 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:35:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:35:17 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603310435.WAA25380@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Ohh, here's a little poem I wrote . . . X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hi guys! I'm pretty sure I've stated that I'm a writer and a poet, and I've been doing some writing this weekend, and I wrote this little poem about the 'Kats. It's not funny, actually, it's about one of the stories I've written. In fact, many of the stories I write on Microsoft Word are very dark, with rather adult themes. (That's why I never posted 'em. Sorry for those who are actually perverted enough to like that stuff. I'm not a pervert. The stories just happened that way.) Many of the poems I write are very dark with gothic themes. Call is an obsession. The story itself is very gothic, very dark, and if I can ever figure this #$%@$#* transferring system, I might send it. I have been told by my L.A. (Language Arts) teacher and many, many classmates that I am very good at poetry. Read on and add your opinion. Really cutting flames will be read, laughed at, disposed, and never thought of again. Right, this has to do with my vampire kats story. Shadows Of My Former Life ----------------------------- I sit and watch, watch and wait In the shadows of my former life, Waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, Hoping that this thing I've become Will die away in the memory of my old self. Here I am, sitting, sitting, sitting, In the shadows of my former life, And as I sit, I feel the fangs And even though I try to fight it, The evil little teeth grow long and sharp and deadly. I shake my head and fight it, writhing without moving In the shadows of my former life, But it's a loosing battle, and I know it well, But I cannot allow myself to back down. My eyes turn the color of the newborn moon As it emerges from the clouds of dusk, My fangs are now long and white But soon will be coated with red, And the feline nature inside me wails But the demon is taking control. The demon forces my to step out Of the shadows of my former life Forces me out to hunt and feed, And though I hate it with all my heart There is nothing I can do To make it leave. Oh, how I loathe this *thing* I've become, This terrible little creature of the night And even as I stumble out, ready to kill, Inside I am screaming "No more!" And is there any way to stop this madness? Is there any way to cure it? I think not, I know not For if there was, Do you not think I would leap for it? I sit and watch, watch and wait In the shadows of my former life, Hoping that this deadly night creature I've become Will never surface again. --------------------------------------------------------------- And that's it. It's sorta the lament of the SWAT Kat that I had get bitten by a vampire. (I'm not tellin' who . . . you'll have to guess!) It kinda says "Here I am, a freakin' monster when I used to be a really cool and good guy." Or, at least, that's how I *wanted* it to basically say. Ciao! Terra Chang: writer and poet SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 01:00:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA10316 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 00:42:01 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA10311 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 00:41:59 -0500 Received: from sl3.redding.snowcrest.net (sl3.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.67]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA02667 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:03:42 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:03:42 -0800 Message-Id: <199603310603.WAA02667@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Pastmaster and stuff (was Re: Need help with sequel and Abi pics!) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > > >>Actually, I liked what you did to him in "Children." But I was kinda > >>surprised that you made him Saruaman the White from (lemme guess) J.R.R. >>Tolkein's Lord of the Rings. (And yes, even though I do seem kinda strange >>at times, I have read all of his works concerning Middle Earth.) But there's >>something wrong with making him Saruaman. He was killed by >Wormtongue at the end of Return of the King, remember? No. I read the series in fourth grade, so the story's kinda fuzzed, and I use kinda lightly. My Idea on him was a bit different, but oh well. the more creative people get, the better > >Of course. Sauraman the Pastmaster is dead--didn't you know that? In >Lopinenean >terms, death isn't the end of living. You can get along just fine in >the right position. >After his death, Sauraman the White was picked up by the Isatari and >became >Lopinenean. > Dr, Jake, uh...... could I borrow your Lopinean idea for my next fanfic when the Archeivers clash with the entire SWAT Kat's planet? (You don't know the Archeivers, but they're almost like the Lopineans [only more involved]) > >>Yeah, go slow. I have a little bit of romantic tension in my current story >>project--and if I ever finish it, I hope it doesn't leave everyone all confused. > >Actually, Abi and Jake just kind of "like each other" until well into >the sequel. Same with Felina and Chance. One thing all writers should >watch out for: NO SEX. Don't stick it in. At least not until you've built up >the relationship over several stories and several hundred kilobytes. An unamed SK >fanfic author . . . all right it was B-KO . . . didn't follow these restrictions and . . . >well . . . > Huh? But how? That's impossable! You couldn't have read Euroatia! I'm in the process of weeding out all the crap in it! In fact, it's not even finished! I kept my stories at least 'R' rated (but in Midnight Magic, I say one thing, and you could think another, especally toward the beginning). Mabye, let's say, that all future fanfics should try to stay PG-13 and under, so stuff like this dosn't happen!! > Dr. Jake ______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." ______________________________________________________ Just one question, WHO AM I????????????????????????????SHISH! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 01:21:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA12966 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 01:00:38 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA12961 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 01:00:35 -0500 Received: from sl3.redding.snowcrest.net (sl3.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.67]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA02954 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:22:21 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:22:21 -0800 Message-Id: <199603310622.WAA02954@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Swat Kats Comics Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Do any of you know of any Swat Kat comics? If there are any, please let me >>know where I can find them. Thanks!! >> >> Peej > a $10 a month is too expensive to Ted! If merchandice is too expensive, then a comic magazine would be out of the question! >Unfortunately, if there are any, none of us know of it. All those big shot >companies said "No" when asked to do one. Something about "cat characters >not working." All I got was quote "Whatsa SWAT Kat?" just what happens when you live in a small town! ______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." ______________________________________________________ Just one question, WHO AM I????????????????????????????SHISH! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 01:30:48 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA13208 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 01:14:22 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA13203 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 01:14:20 -0500 Received: from sl3.redding.snowcrest.net (sl3.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.67]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA03375 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:36:07 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:36:07 -0800 Message-Id: <199603310636.WAA03375@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: "Children of the Stone" FAQ Guide Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >A Guide to FAQ to the "Children of the Stone" series > (or DJ's attempt to keep you guys from getting > COMPLETELY confused): You should put something like this onto Rat, as well. Would you like me to do this for you? Every great series needs one of these! >QUESTIONS ON 996 C.E. What does C.E. mean? I've always used A.D. for Kats stories, but wasn't sure on their time, so I avoided the subject, like a weirdo. > >Confused yet? > Actually, I've done the same kind of testing. It's ready for the real world now. Just hope everyone else can understand the complex world I'll soon give to the Internet > >2. Is making Hackle Jake's father being inconsistent with >the show? > > Yeah. So? They look too much alike. And Hackle's too Jewish. > I never saw the relation, but you portrey it nicely > >6. What's with the Abi/Jake thing? Will we see more? > > Sure. That's all I'm telling. > You have to give US WRITERS time to show every aspect of OUR creative GENUIS (hint, hint!) > >9. So Frith (or Frith-rah) is the sun, right? > > Uh-huh. > There's always symbols in religion! > >11. Are you an almighty being in disguise? > > Glad you noticed. > I made him what he is (don't ask!) ______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." ______________________________________________________ Just one question, WHO AM I????????????????????????????SHISH! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 01:54:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA13420 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 01:25:28 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA13413 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 01:25:25 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.196] (dyn1196a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.196]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id NAA08999 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 13:26:39 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 13:23:50 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: "Children of the Stone" FAQ Guide Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net DJ? I have a question, what is C.E.? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 01:58:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA13426 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 01:25:30 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA13419 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 01:25:27 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.196] (dyn1196a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.196]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id NAA09002 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 13:26:42 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 13:23:52 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Navy... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Is there some sort of Navy in MegaKat city? Because I think that I saw some sort of Carrier in "Ghost Pilot". ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 08:41:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA05004 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 08:34:37 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA04996 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 08:34:34 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.213] (dyn1213a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.213]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id UAA18635 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:35:47 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:32:58 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Mega doesn't mean million Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net The word "Mega" has a lot of meanings in our world, it probably has more meanings in the kat world. It could be a name of a continent on the kat planet, a name of a certain place in the kat world, a name for some sort of alloy, etc. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 08:49:05 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA04997 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 08:34:35 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA04990 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 08:34:31 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.213] (dyn1213a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.213]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id UAA18626 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:35:40 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:32:54 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Swat Kats Comics Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>Do any of you know of any Swat Kat comics? If there are any, please let me >>>know where I can find them. Thanks!! >>> >>> Peej >> >a $10 a month is too expensive to Ted! If merchandice is too expensive, then >a comic magazine would be out of the question! Maybe we should be focusing on asking them to release a SWAT Kats comic instead of bringing back the television series . After all, if the comic is successful, they maybe will understand that a television series probably will bring more money. >______________________________________________________ >Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley >SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan >"Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." >______________________________________________________ >Just one question, WHO AM I????????????????????????????SHISH! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 09:41:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA08333 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 09:34:18 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA08328 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 09:34:15 -0500 Received: from bossrkf2.bossnt.com (bossrkf2.bossnt.com [198.150.207.42]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA08125 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 09:34:48 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 09:34:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199603311434.JAA08125@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: peej@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Peejster Subject: Re: Swat Kats Comics Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Maybe we should be focusing on asking them to release a SWAT Kats comic instead of bringing back the television series . After all, if the comic is successful, they maybe will understand that a television series probably will bring more money. > >>______________________________________________________ >>Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley >>SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan >>"Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." >>______________________________________________________ >>Just one question, WHO AM I????????????????????????????SHISH! > > > That's a good idea Edo11 :-) Why didn't I think of that?! Any other thoughts, folks? Peej From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 12:15:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA17978 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 11:59:59 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA17973 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 11:59:56 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA17877; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:05:50 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:05:50 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Kat stuff In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net In the FAq, I noticed that dana put "some other animation company" for HanHo Heung-Up. Fix it next time you update it. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 12:23:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA17949 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 11:58:35 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA17944 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 11:58:32 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA17824; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:04:20 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:04:20 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Swat Kats Comics In-Reply-To: <199603302152.PAA08427@natashya.eden.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net If somebody writes the story, I'll do the comic book, drawings and all, though I'm still working on callie and the villians, but I can draw t-bone and razor really well, so send me your stories! A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 12:26:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA18492 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:17:41 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA18487 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:17:38 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA18662; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:23:32 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:23:31 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Mutilor Answer Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net A cross between a bug and Goro. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 12:31:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA18467 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:17:10 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA18462 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:17:07 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA18625; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:23:01 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:23:00 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Mutilor Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net What does mutilor remind you of? *hint, hint, for all you mortal kombat fans*, (though I am not an mk fan) A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 12:37:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA18213 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:09:19 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA18208 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:09:16 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA18242; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:15:10 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:15:08 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Navy... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net The Enforcers are the only military MegaKat city has. That "carrier" was Feral's billion-dollar jet. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 12:50:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA18703 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:27:45 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA18697 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:27:42 -0500 Received: from net-6-170.austin.eden.com (net-6-170.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.170]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id LAA03014 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 11:27:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 11:27:39 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603311727.LAA03014@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Swat Kats Comics X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net A.J. wrote this: >If somebody writes the story, I'll do the comic book, drawings and all, >though I'm still working on callie and the villians, but I can draw >t-bone and razor really well, so send me your stories! Maybe we don't need to. Just pick a story from the Rat's site, and boom! You have an already written story, ready to be drawn. After all, if that's all you need, go ahead! I don't mind, and I'm pretty sure the others won't either. And when you're done, send me a copy, okay? Ciao! Terra Chang: writer and poet SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 12:53:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA18812 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:32:53 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA18805 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:32:50 -0500 Received: from net-6-170.austin.eden.com (net-6-170.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.170]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id LAA03211 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 11:32:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 11:32:47 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603311732.LAA03211@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Mutilor Answer X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >A cross between a bug and Goro. And an octopus! Don't foget those little tentacle thingeys that wiggle around on his shoulders! (or somewhere, I just foget where.) Hmmmmmm . . . a bug I can tell, very ugly face; Goro, well of course, or maybe Kintaro, they both have four arms . . . d'you think he may be part dragon as well? >A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please >ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! >"Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club >SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS Ciao! Terra Chang: writer and poet SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 13:21:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA21898 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 13:16:08 -0500 Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA21893 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 13:16:05 -0500 Received: from tole-cs-5.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-2.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.102]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id NAA09410 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 13:09:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 13:09:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199603311809.NAA09410@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: One Last Mega Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net A look at a couple of handy dictionaries yields: Mega is ancient Greek for large, great, or mighty. It's used in the sciences for million, but that's much later. A megalith is therefore a really big archetectural stone, a megalomaniacs are persons with delusions about their own greatness, a megaphone makes your voice mighty, etc. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 13:25:03 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA22024 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 13:20:41 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA22019 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 13:20:38 -0500 Received: from bossrkf1.bossnt.com (bossrkf1.bossnt.com [198.150.207.41]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA08522 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 13:21:20 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 13:21:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199603311821.NAA08522@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: peej@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Peejster Subject: Re: Swat Kats Comics Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 12:04 PM 3/31/96 -0500, you wrote: >If somebody writes the story, I'll do the comic book, drawings and all, >though I'm still working on callie and the villians, but I can draw >t-bone and razor really well, so send me your stories! > >A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please >ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! >"Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club >SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS > > A.J., have you uploaded any of your drawings to the page? I would be interested in seeing some of your artwork. Peej From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 17:18:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA03933 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 16:41:40 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA03924 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 16:41:32 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d161.infoserve.net [199.175.157.161]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA29421 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 14:01:49 -0800 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 14:01:49 -0800 Message-Id: <199603312201.OAA29421@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: "Children of the Stone" FAQ Guide Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >What does C.E. mean? I've always used A.D. for Kats stories, but wasn't sure >on their time, so I avoided the subject, like a weirdo. "Common Era". Interchangeable with "In the Year of Our Lord", or Anno Domini... "A.D." for short. Sometimes you see something like "33 B.C.E.", or "Before our Common Era", which is to say before the time of Christ. Since Kats have Christmas (it's true! "Night of the Dark Kat"), then I think you can safely use the same date conventions as in our world. (sidebar: has anyone ever *seen* anything resembling a church in the kats BG art?) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 17:25:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA03970 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 16:42:13 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA03918 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 16:41:22 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d161.infoserve.net [199.175.157.161]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA29411 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 14:01:39 -0800 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 14:01:39 -0800 Message-Id: <199603312201.OAA29411@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Harvey, Archie and Turner - the unholy trinity of comicdom... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Unfortunately, if there are any, none of us know of it. All those big shot >>companies said "No" when asked to do one. Something about "cat characters >>not working." > >All I got was quote "Whatsa SWAT Kat?" just what happens when you live in a >small town! I thought you lived in No.Cal. What's a "small town" in No.Cal? (lemme guess. They're still showing "Star Wars" at the local multiplex?) Anyway, Turner had a tentative deal with Harvey Comics. Something happened with Harvey Comics where they were bought out, or went bankrupt, or some junk, then Archie Comics got the rights to H-B stuff. Archie supposedly was interested in a Kats title, but was more or less *told* not to pursue it by their parent company -- also Turner. Christian Tremblay was talking to Dark Horse comix who were interested enough to schedule several meetings, but in the end brushed off Christian with the comment that Peej is referring to. The last mention of a Kats-title to Turner reps came at SanDiego comicon, where a rep from a comics outfit approached a Turner rep to ask about a possible Kat-comic, and was laughed off. How professional. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 17:26:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA03976 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 16:42:15 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA03961 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 16:42:09 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d161.infoserve.net [199.175.157.161]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA29414 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 14:01:42 -0800 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 14:01:42 -0800 Message-Id: <199603312201.OAA29414@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Need help with sequel and Abi pics! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>BTW, DJ, from now on, let's keep this off the list. Some of the >others might >>get pissed at this extra stuff. But then, I could be wrong. It is >known to >>have happened before, many a time in the past. Yeah, here also, but maybe this is a good idea. You also might want to ask Rat to post any kind of "Cliff's Notes" fanfic-FAQ up with your fanfic rather than distributing it to the list. Fanfic creative discussions are fun too, but if you're going to drift heavily away from the Kats (as the current "Watership Down" thread is starting to), then you might want to shift it to e-mail with your co-conspirators. Again, general rule, before you post something to the list, pretend you're a new list-member reading it. Will you recognize it as being related to the show? _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 17:45:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAB03953 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 16:42:00 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA03928 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 16:41:39 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d161.infoserve.net [199.175.157.161]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA29427 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 14:01:55 -0800 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 14:01:55 -0800 Message-Id: <199603312201.OAA29427@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: About the site Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net (what happens when mankind runs out of ">>"'s???) >If this has already been suggested before I joined the list, please forgive. >It's not easy finding Kats on the web- most searchers didn't show anyting >when I started looking. Since TCN programs usually aren't listed in >newspaper TV schedules, you're not likely to know that the show is out >there, what it's about, or if it's worth watching. Maybe generating some >general-interest stuff on usenet would help. A bunch of us do that on rec.arts.animation (even alt.fan.furry) from time-to-time, and for awhile there it was a three-way-tie of outraged fandom between Universal's "Exosquad", DIC's "Sonic the Hedgehog" and "SwatKats". Kats fans were the loudest by a long shot due to Kevin, myself, Matt Weber, Dana Uehara and a few others, and much of that traffic helped get "alt.tv.swatkats" off the ground. It works towards "outing" the fan-base, but the result may be diminshed nowadays because the program is off the syndication outlets and TBS, and can only be seen on TCN. I did a poll of the r.a.a. readership to see how many people can actually *get* TCN, and the result was statistically insignificant. Tedco reads rec.arts.animation at least intermittently, and undoubtedly notes the followups, but I kinda get the impression from the more or less total lack of official response to anything that they're just hoping we'll all go away and play in traffic. Still, all that early anonymous "it was canceled because..." stuff came in answer to some of those rec.arts katsposts, so I guess every little bit helps, huh? _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 17:50:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA04027 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 16:43:06 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA04014 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 16:42:47 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d161.infoserve.net [199.175.157.161]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA29417 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 14:01:45 -0800 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 14:01:45 -0800 Message-Id: <199603312201.OAA29417@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats LOUD Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Kats at its best was, what about $400,000 for twenty minutes of >animation? (22 minus the opening and ending.) Buzz Potamkin posted to rec.arts.animation that "the budget on a recent episode went north of $700,000.00, but we don't want to start any ugly rumours, do we?" I'm pretty sure he was referring to the Kats, as though he was Executive Producer of both the Kitties and World Premiere Toons, by *no* stretch of the imagination can I picture "Yucky Duck" and ilk costing any more than about 30K, tops. I don't even want to mention 'Captain Planet'. I'm too far away from my airsick bag. > Funny how Turner had no problem pumping 35 million into both The >Pagemaster and Swan Princess (Which both bombed in theaters.) At the moment they've got "Cats Don't Dance" on the launchpad, which may end up being halfway decent. "Pagemaster" was a shambles from the word "go", and "Swan Princess" was critically acclaimed in many quarters but almost universally shunned by the viewers (though that's beginning to change in the Blockbuster environment). Turner Home Video was "disappointed" at orders for the 'SwatKats Home Videos', but as most of you have found out from your retailer during your search for them, everyone replies to your question with "Whatsa Swatkat?". No promotion. No sales. 3 mil for a 'Kats' movie would be well spent, and if accompanied by a *competent* promotion, would certainly cause quite a stir. Many are clamouring now for anime-level movies in wide release, and you couldn't do better than a Kats flick - provided that the compulsion to "dumb it down" for the 6-11 "Princess and Pony" set is fought at every turn. >>("Too expensive"? We could've had three of 'em for the money that went up >> the spout for the discarded "Jonny Quest" revisions. Looks like Turner is >>one giant interminable April Fools Gag.) > > Hey, tell us something we *don't* know. Okay. Someone at Warners wrote up a neat little short about the innermost workings of the Turner org called "Two Stupid Producers" which evidently made the rounds of those over there that work for a living. It's a bit cruel, in considerably bad taste, and makes great fun of the misfortunes of Tedco. In other words, "hilarious". _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 17:51:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id QAA03977 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 16:42:17 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA03934 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 16:41:47 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d161.infoserve.net [199.175.157.161]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA29424 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 14:01:51 -0800 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 14:01:51 -0800 Message-Id: <199603312201.OAA29424@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Concentrate on a Comic, Ted? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Edo wrote: >>Maybe we should be focusing on asking them to release a SWAT Kats comic >>instead of bringing back the television series . After all, if the comic is >>successful, they maybe will understand that a television series probably >>will bring more money. Max's pal Peej wrote: >That's a good idea Edo11 :-) Why didn't I think of that?! Any other >thoughts, folks? Comics and 'toons have a weird relationship. TMNT, "The Tick", "The Maxx", "X-Men", "Batman" and so on all had comics in place prior to being immortalized on our TV screens, but "Animaniacs", "Aladdin", "TaleSpin" etc. had them come out after the series was established. None that I know of have had comics released post-cancellation, and some of the ones "supporting" certain reasonably current cartoons are barely commercially viable. If they *were* to do a Kats title, they'd have to go with some high-quality effort *completely* outside the Archie comix setup, and that would involve $$$$. They've got a "Jonny Quest" title in the works to back up the "New Adventures" thing, so maybe that'll be a nice blueprint for the Kats at some future date. What Tedco *should* do right now is hold some kind of contest/poll deal on TCN in terms of people's favourite TCN toon -- maybe like the old "Fox Kids TV Takeover!" -- and staple the results to Ted's forehead. Beats fridge magnets. (Evidently TCN would like nothing better than to procure more eps of the Kats, but they take their orders from Atlanta just like everybody else, and they're currently too wrapped up in WPT's, "Jetsons" revivals, and "Jonny" going over budget). _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 18:16:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA09305 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:48:33 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA09300 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:48:30 -0500 Received: from bossrkf3.bossnt.com (bossrkf3.bossnt.com [198.150.207.43]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA09167 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:49:19 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:49:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199603312249.RAA09167@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: peej@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Peejster Subject: Kats' Religion(s) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Since the topic of religion and Jake maybe being Jewish have come up, could the Kats have a variation Christianity, Judaism or other human religions? Peej From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 18:31:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA11301 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 18:21:28 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA11296 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 18:21:24 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.86] (dyn1086a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.86]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id GAA02381 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 06:22:34 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 06:19:50 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Mutilor Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >What does mutilor remind you of? A Japanese type monster. >*hint, hint, for all you mortal kombat >fans*, (though I am not an mk fan) I'm not a Mortal Kombat fan, and not too fond of it either (I never like fighting games.). But a SWAT Kats 2D fighting game could be fun. >A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please >ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! >"Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club >SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 18:43:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA11293 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 18:21:19 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA11288 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 18:21:16 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.86] (dyn1086a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.86]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id GAA02376 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 06:22:25 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 06:19:41 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Navy... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >The Enforcers are the only military MegaKat city has. That "carrier" was >Feral's billion-dollar jet. A jet that can sail??? A jet with a control tower??? The only very expensive jet that I see in "Ghost Pilot" is the Blue Manx. I'm talking about the carrier that look like a aircraft carrier. >A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please >ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! >"Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club >SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 18:51:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA11283 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 18:21:10 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA11278 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 18:21:06 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.86] (dyn1086a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.86]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id GAA02369 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 06:22:18 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 06:19:30 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: "Children of the Stone" FAQ Guide Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>A Guide to FAQ to the "Children of the Stone" series >> (or DJ's attempt to keep you guys from getting >> COMPLETELY confused): > >You should put something like this onto Rat, as well. Would you like me to >do this for you? >Every great series needs one of these! Does this mean that good, mediocre, and not bad doesn't count? >>QUESTIONS ON 996 C.E. > >What does C.E. mean? I've always used A.D. for Kats stories, but wasn't sur= e >on their time, so I avoided the subject, like a weirdo. Me too, I always avoided the year thing on my fanfic story, I just say= something like "xxx years later" (or "xxx years ago", if it's happening in= the past)" instead of saying the year (Although that saying the year could= be cool thing to say. "The year is XXXX, the name of the place is...= MegaKat city."). Now if only I can finished my story so that you guys can= read it. >______________________________________________________ >Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley >SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan >"Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." >______________________________________________________ >Just one question, WHO AM I????????????????????????????SHISH! ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 18:52:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA11312 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 18:21:36 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA11304 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 18:21:33 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.86] (dyn1086a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.86]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id GAA02385 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 06:22:43 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 06:19:57 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Swat Kats Comics Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >A.J. wrote this: >>If somebody writes the story, I'll do the comic book, drawings and all, >>though I'm still working on callie and the villians, but I can draw >>t-bone and razor really well, so send me your stories! You know what A.J., I envy you. Terra wrote: >Maybe we don't need to. Just pick a story from the Rat's site, and boom! You >have an already written story, ready to be drawn. Just ask the author if they want the story to be drawn, maybe they can give you some direction on how to draw the scene in their story. >After all, if that's all >you need, go ahead! I don't mind, and I'm pretty sure the others won't >either. And when you're done, send me a copy, okay? And also send it to rat.org so that everybody can see it. >Ciao! > >Terra Chang: >writer and poet >SWAT Kats lover >Anne Rice fan ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 18:57:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA11665 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 18:39:03 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA11650 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 18:38:44 -0500 Received: from net-1-049.austin.eden.com (net-1-049.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.49]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id RAA19841 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:38:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:38:38 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603312338.RAA19841@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Mutilor X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>What does mutilor remind you of? > >A Japanese type monster. You mean like Godzilla? (Oh, God, now I've got that stupid "Godzilla" theme stuck in my head. Uggghhhhhh . . .) But a Japanese-type monster? Eyeah . . . try asking Ryan. No offense intended, sweetie, but your stories *do* have a lot of Japanese-type names and stuff. >>*hint, hint, for all you mortal kombat >>fans*, (though I am not an mk fan) > >I'm not a Mortal Kombat fan, and not too fond of it either (I never like fighting games.). But a SWAT Kats 2D fighting game could be fun. I am, sorta. (And don't give me a "Terra, you're only twelve years old, that stuff's too violent for you," speech. I don't like the blood-n-guts stuff, I like the stories of the characters. Why? I don't know.) And as for the SWAT Kats 2D fighting game? It's possible, I've heard that in Japan they have a "fighting Sonic" game. And if a speedy blue hedgehog who destroys his enemies by bouncing on their heads can do it, than surely two kat fighter pilots who use martial arts in more than one occasion should work. And no, I'm not feeling okay, so don't ask. But then, I'm not a real fan of science fiction, so why am I here discussing what this giant alien water pirate resembles? (My parents like science fiction, Issac Asmoiv etc., I prefer gothic stuff. Which becomes pretty evident in some of my stories . . .) BTW, anyone intrested in seeing a vampire kats story? >------------------------------------- >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >"A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." Ciao! Terra Chang: writer and poet SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 19:00:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA12919 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 18:51:35 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA12914 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 18:51:24 -0500 Received: from net-1-049.austin.eden.com (net-1-049.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.49]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id RAA21304 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:51:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:51:20 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603312351.RAA21304@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Navy... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>The Enforcers are the only military MegaKat city has. That "carrier" was >>Feral's billion-dollar jet. > >A jet that can sail??? A jet with a control tower??? The only very expensive jet that I see in "Ghost Pilot" is the Blue Manx. Same here. Of course, there was always that tank, the Vahemeth (sp?) in "Metal Urgency," i.e. "Yeah, but it looks like Feral won't be getting much a trade-in on his new tank." >I'm talking about the carrier that look like a aircraft carrier. Do you mean the one in "Cry Turmoil" at the very end? Not to mention her aircraft base thingey looked like a floating carrier. That's the only place *I* saw something like that. How about you? >------------------------------------- >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >"A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." > > > Ciao! Terra Chang: writer and poet SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 19:25:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA13480 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 18:57:04 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA13366 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 18:56:59 -0500 Received: from net-1-049.austin.eden.com (net-1-049.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.49]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id RAA21554 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:56:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:56:55 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603312356.RAA21554@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: "Children of the Stone" FAQ Guide X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Does this mean that good, mediocre, and not bad doesn't count? Good, yes. Mediocre and bad . . . yeah right. >Me too, I always avoided the year thing on my fanfic story, I just say something like "xxx years later" (or "xxx years ago", if it's happening in the past)" instead of saying the year (Although that saying the year could be cool thing to say. "The year is XXXX, the name of the place is... MegaKat city."). Ahhhh, t'hell with it. I just use a made-up date in my stories. (Like in Sonic, their years are, "3224" and like that. I just make up a date for the year, or I use the current year. But I've got a suggestion. In the script premiere of "Cold War," they mention a few years when the 'Kat guys fought certain enemies. I don't remember any exactly, but you can always check. >Now if only I can finished my story so that you guys can read it. I *know* this is a 'Kats list, but to quote a certain blue hedgehog: "We're waiting . . ." And if you're too embarrassed to send it to Rat, send it to me! at least, okay? >>______________________________________________________ >>Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley >>SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan >>"Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." >>______________________________________________________ >>Just one question, WHO AM I????????????????????????????SHISH! > >------------------------------------- >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >"A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." > > > Ciao! Terra Chang: writer and poet SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 19:46:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA16614 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:38:21 -0500 Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA16609 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:38:18 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA20306 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:37:40 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:36:40 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-085.43] Message-Id: <096.04864546.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Kats' Religion(s) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Since the topic of religion and Jake maybe being Jewish have come up, could >the Kats have a variation Christianity, Judaism or other human religions? > Peej Well, im my fanfic, Judiasm isn't any different from ours because I didn't feel like changing any laws around. I don't really see how they would be different, except maybe drinking milk at the last supper or Jesus turning water into milk instead of wine. Or, of course, we could get into whether they history is a copy of ours or not . . . Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 19:55:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA18916 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:45:18 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAB18822 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:45:14 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA07696; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:51:08 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:51:07 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: SWAT Kats LOUD In-Reply-To: <199603312201.OAA29417@unix.infoserve.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I think you should send this part to toonnet, about demands for anime movies, etc. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 20:04:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA16667 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:39:43 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA16662 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:39:40 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA07508; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:45:34 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:45:33 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Swat Kats Comics In-Reply-To: <199603311727.LAA03014@natashya.eden.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net You might not see a kats comic from me until summer vacation, depending on how much homework I get the 4th quarter. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 20:07:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA17337 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:41:10 -0500 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA17236 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:40:58 -0500 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA07540; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:46:52 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:46:52 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Swat Kats Comics In-Reply-To: <199603311821.NAA08522@underdog.maxie.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Sorry. for all my drawing are on paper, and I do not have the following: FTP uploads binary attachments to e-mail no scanner sorry! I hope this will change soon! A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 20:13:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA17604 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:41:46 -0500 Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA17556 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:41:40 -0500 Received: from mailout2.prodigy.com ([199.4.137.96]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA10830 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:40:50 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:39:50 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-085.43] Message-Id: <096.04864790.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Replies to comments on FAQ for fanfic Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I had a lot of questions on my FAQ, so I thought I'd get it all down in one shot. Terra wrote: >>4. How does Kehor know Thoran? >> Is it important? > > Dunno. I'm not the author, YOU are ? I asked that question to make you guys think, "IS it really important?" That was just in case anyone was wondering, I'm just saying it isn't really effecting to the plotline. >> > > I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW! > Can I e-mail you privately and tell you what I *think* >it is? Go ahead. If you recognize the name you're on the right track, but it takes a good deal of thinking to figure out what the Lopine word (a noun) concerning the WD character means. Ryan wrote: >> > > Dr. Jake, uh . . . . . could I borrow your Lopinean idea >for my next fanfic when the Archeivers clash with the entire >SWAT Kat's planet? I'll tell you about that in the note I send to the list about using Lopine. >What does "CE" mean? I've had more than one question on this. As you know: BC - Before Christ AD - a Latin phrase that means "In the Year of Our L-rd" Well, there are 2 knew politically correct terms to replace the old ones. I'm not very PC, but I like them better. BCE - Before Common Era CE - Common Era They mean the same thing as BC and AD. Sorry about the confusion. Someone also mentioned if I should send this FAQ to the list. The answer is no, at least not yet, because after "Virthuril" comes out some changes and additions will probably be made to it. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 20:24:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA21676 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:15:04 -0500 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.santonio.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA21662 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:15:00 -0500 Received: from net-1-049.austin.eden.com (net-2-066.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.66]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id TAA25309 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:14:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:14:57 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199604010114.TAA25309@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Swat Kats Comics X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Sorry. for all my drawing are on paper, and I do not have the following: > >FTP uploads >binary attachments to e-mail >no scanner > >sorry! I hope this will change soon! No, no, no, no. What I meant when I said "Send it to me," I meant via snail-mail. (*If* you can) I can send my snail-mail address to you, if you can. (ANd I really hope you can!!) And I understand. I don't have any of those things either. Oh well . . . tomorrow is April Fools Day in Texas (Yes, I know for some of you it is already, but, I'm talking about Texas here . . .) I think the cruelest joke Turner could play is saying he will renew SK to a rabid 'Kats fan, then telling 'em, "Aaaah, I was just kidding. April Fools!" (Of course, what would probably happen afterwards would be intresting. Imagine: "Ted Turner, the stupidest man to ever own a company, beaten alive by a rabid SWAT Kats fan! Is that devotion to a show or what?") >A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please >ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! >"Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club >SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS Ciao! Terra Chang: writer and poet SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 22:41:50 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA28346 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:26:43 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA28340 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:26:40 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.172] (dyn1172a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.172]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id KAA12524 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:27:54 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:25:05 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: The year is 1996, the name of the place is... The Kats mailing list. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net chance wrote: >Since Kats have Christmas (it's true! "Night of the Dark Kat"), then I think >you can safely use the same date conventions as in our world. Yeah, but it's the numbers that we will never know. BTW, is the Kats definition of Christmas is the same as some definition of Christmas in our world? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 22:56:03 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA28353 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:26:47 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA28348 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:26:44 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.172] (dyn1172a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.172]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id KAA12538 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:27:58 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:25:09 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: How does Katkind measured their time? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net In SWAT Kats we can see that their civilization is paralel to our's late= 20th century civilization, but we still doesn't know how they use their= years, are they based in 365 days? or could they based on a sky object like= a certain star or a certain moon (If the Kats planet has more than one= moon) ? what year does the SwatKats live in? are their starting year is= mark by a certain event (Like the day the SwatKats put the Pastmaster out= of commision in medieval times) ? Does anybody here want to put their opini= ons? I'm sorry if what I'm asking is background information, but it could be a= great discussion topic in this list. ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 22:56:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA28337 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:26:28 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA28332 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:26:25 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.172] (dyn1172a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.172]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id KAA12504 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:27:38 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:24:49 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Navy... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>I'm talking about the carrier that look like an aircraft carrier. > >Do you mean the one in "Cry Turmoil" at the very end? Not to mention her >aircraft base thingey looked like a floating carrier. That's the only place >*I* saw something like that. How about you? Nope, I'm talking about the carrier in "Ghost Pilot" (Read the Navy thing in the subject line of this post.), like the one that a F-14 Tomcat usualy hang out. BTW, Turmoil's air carrier look like a coffin or a Super Star Destroyer to me. Hmmm, I wonder if there is a floating island somewhere on the kat planet. >>------------------------------------- >>Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >>"A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." > >Terra Chang: ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 23:13:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA01364 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:01:07 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA01347 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:01:02 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d150.infoserve.net [199.175.157.150]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA17151 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:21:24 -0800 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:21:24 -0800 Message-Id: <199604010421.UAA17151@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats LOUD Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > > >I think you should send this part to toonnet, about demands for anime >movies, etc. Toonnet is for TCN, and TCN can't even get new eps made, let alone an anime-level feature release. That add won't be much good for anything that isn't directly a TCN issue. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 23:25:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA01533 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:08:32 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA01518 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:07:30 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d150.infoserve.net [199.175.157.150]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA17463 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:27:52 -0800 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:27:52 -0800 Message-Id: <199604010427.UAA17463@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Swat Kats Comics Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I think the cruelest joke Turner could play is saying he >will renew SK to a rabid 'Kats fan, then telling 'em, "Aaaah, I was just >kidding. April Fools!" (Of course, what would probably happen afterwards >would be intresting. Imagine: "Ted Turner, the stupidest man to ever own a >company, beaten alive by a rabid SWAT Kats fan! Is that devotion to a show >or what?") For an AFG, I was going to post something to rec.arts.animation outlining Turner's plans for a "Captain Planet"/"SwatKats" crossover made-for-TCN movie, but I figured I'd be eaten alive. I can't even begin to imagine a plot... though I suppose that hasn't stopped the vast majority of the CP eps from being made. "I'm a marketeer... You can be one too... Bringing back 'Kats... is the thing to do!" _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 23:30:59 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA01237 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:57:26 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA01229 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:57:17 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d150.infoserve.net [199.175.157.150]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA16890 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:17:43 -0800 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:17:43 -0800 Message-Id: <199604010417.UAA16890@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Navy... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>The Enforcers are the only military MegaKat city has. That "carrier" was >>>Feral's billion-dollar jet. >> >>A jet that can sail??? A jet with a control tower??? The only very >expensive jet that I see in "Ghost Pilot" is the Blue Manx. Aircraft Carrier. Can't miss it. Long, grey...runway painted on it........floats. Big. Very Big. >Same here. Of course, there was always that tank, the Vahemeth (sp?) in >"Metal Urgency," i.e. "Yeah, but it looks like Feral won't be getting much a >trade-in on his new tank." The tank is called "The Behemoth". "Behemoth" can be used as either a noun or an adjective. >>I'm talking about the carrier that look like a aircraft carrier. Yeah. The behemoth aircraft carrier it's hard to miss. It's big. Very big. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 23:32:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA01769 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:14:53 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA01757 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:14:31 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d150.infoserve.net [199.175.157.150]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA17838 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:34:45 -0800 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:34:45 -0800 Message-Id: <199604010434.UAA17838@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: The year is 1996, the name of the place is... The Kats mailing list. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >chance wrote: >>Since Kats have Christmas (it's true! "Night of the Dark Kat"), then I think >>you can safely use the same date conventions as in our world. > >Yeah, but it's the numbers that we will never know. > >BTW, is the Kats definition of Christmas is the same as some definition of Christmas in our world? Lessee. "Christ"..."mas" "Christ", well...there's enough Charlton Heston movies coming up to answer any lingering questions about Christ, but "mas" is a Latin word meaning "birth". I'll let you do the math. I'd like to see a script that kind of explores the same place they were going with the pacifist nature of the Aquians on "When Strikes Mutilor", but maybe keep it closer to home and have it motivated by something more religious -- without defining that religion, per se -- in order to help the audience understand why some actions are necessary when there's no other choice, and why the kitty-kats *do* those actions. Might be kinda cool, and could "justify" the "violence" on the program to parents without breaking the 90's taboo of depicting anything overtly Christian. Ehh, just a thought. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 23:42:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA02131 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:30:01 -0500 Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA02104 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:29:58 -0500 Received: from bossrkf4.bossnt.com (bossrkf4.bossnt.com [198.150.207.44]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA09921 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:30:55 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:30:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199604010430.XAA09921@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: peej@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Peejster Subject: Re: The year is 1996, the name of the place is... The Kats mailing list. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 10:25 AM 4/1/96 +0700, you wrote: >chance wrote: >>Since Kats have Christmas (it's true! "Night of the Dark Kat"), then I think >>you can safely use the same date conventions as in our world. > >Yeah, but it's the numbers that we will never know. > >BTW, is the Kats definition of Christmas is the same as some definition of Christmas in our world? > > > I think it would be, IMO; I believe the Kat universe is similar to ours, so their religious practice and such would be similar too. Any other thoughts, folks? Peej From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Mar 31 23:49:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA02217 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:35:26 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA02211 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:35:21 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA29578; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:35:15 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604010435.AA29578@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: SWAT Kats LOUD To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:35:15 +4200 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199603312201.OAA29417@unix.infoserve.net> from "chance" at Mar 31, 96 02:01:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 4155 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > > Kats at its best was, what about $400,000 for twenty minutes of > >animation? (22 minus the opening and ending.) > > Buzz Potamkin posted to rec.arts.animation that "the budget on a recent > episode went north of $700,000.00, but we don't want to start any ugly Ouch. $700 K? Let's keep this quiet, give the series a bad rep and all. When did he make that comment, BTW? And do you know what episode it may have been? I hope it wasn't The Deadly Pyramid, but the animation *looks* that expensive. Or was it not a matter of expensive animation but waste in the production at H-B? > > Funny how Turner had no problem pumping 35 million into both The > >Pagemaster and Swan Princess (Which both bombed in theaters.) > > At the moment they've got "Cats Don't Dance" on the launchpad, which may > end up being halfway decent. "Pagemaster" was a shambles from the word "go", Which doesn't mean success at all because... > and "Swan Princess" was critically acclaimed in many quarters but almost > universally shunned by the viewers (though that's beginning to change in $9.8 million if I remember correctly. Lion King shredded it. Balto's another excellent film with an unfortunate theatrical death ($11.6 million) because it isn't Dinsey. The solution is to not shoot for the G rated family film market. H-B tried it with Nexus, but that was shot down. Don't know about the rest of their planned animated action adventure films, but SWAT Kats: The Radical Movie, as I believe someone coined it here, is the best theatrical option H-B has. It could work as an inexpensive film, but if it had the same budget as the Pagemaster and Swan Princess and Mook did the animating, LOOK OUT! > the Blockbuster environment). Turner Home Video was "disappointed" at > orders for the 'SwatKats Home Videos', but as most of you have found > out from your retailer during your search for them, everyone replies to > your question with "Whatsa Swatkat?". No promotion. No sales. 3 mil I think there was an ad appearing in the corner of a video game ad. See the scan I made at http://rat.org/pub/kats.images/snes/snesad.jpg That's about it. I haven't once seen them in a video store or rental place. You only can get them if you know about them in advance (and who will with so little promotion?) and special order (From Suncoast in my case) like I did (And everybody else should too!) I haven't done any checking via the phone, but I happen to know from a friend that they aren't available through several mail order companies which normally would have them. > for a 'Kats' movie would be well spent, and if accompanied by a *competent* > promotion, would certainly cause quite a stir. Many are clamouring now for > anime-level movies in wide release, and you couldn't do better than a Kats > flick - provided that the compulsion to "dumb it down" for the 6-11 > "Princess and Pony" set is fought at every turn. I've already given away a bit of an as yet unwritten post of mine about all of this. This *really* factors into the heart of the matter. I gotta hurry up and type that thing. > >>("Too expensive"? We could've had three of 'em for the money that went up > >> the spout for the discarded "Jonny Quest" revisions. Looks like Turner is > >>one giant interminable April Fools Gag.) > > > > Hey, tell us something we *don't* know. > > Okay. Someone at Warners wrote up a neat little short about the innermost > workings of the Turner org called "Two Stupid Producers" which evidently > made the rounds of those over there that work for a living. It's a bit cruel, > in considerably bad taste, and makes great fun of the misfortunes of Tedco. > > In other words, "hilarious". I don't suppose you could have it or could post it, could you? Nah...Forget I asked, it's just too cruel. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 00:01:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA04096 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:52:32 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA04091 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:52:28 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA63838; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:52:16 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604010452.AA63838@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Merchandise We'd Like to See: Introduction To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:52:16 +4200 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199603312201.OAA29424@unix.infoserve.net> from "chance" at Mar 31, 96 02:01:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1236 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net All this discussion about SWAT Kats music and comics has made me think of an old idea, a series of threads where we not only name the items of merchandise that we'd like to see, but go into detail about them. Here's some items, some of which have been named before: Action figures done right A Companion Guide for the series (More than just several pages, a whole book!) Comic Book(s) More Posters Model Kit(s) A CD Soundtrack T-Shirts and other clothing Trading Cards Vehicles, weapons, and accessories, many of which are for afforementioned action figures More Videos and LD's in a better format (I know there aren't LD's to begin with) A better Video Game I'm sure there are others that I'm forgetting. Follow-up 'til you're hearts content Kats Fans, but (Super nitpick) try to adjust the header of the post to describe what particular item you are discussing? Just an idea. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 00:15:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA04933 for kats-ll; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:54:33 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA04924 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:54:30 -0500 Received: from sl11.redding.snowcrest.net (sl11.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.75]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA20178 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 21:16:59 -0800 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 21:16:59 -0800 Message-Id: <199604010516.VAA20178@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Swat Kats Comics Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >A.J. wrote this: >>If somebody writes the story, I'll do the comic book, drawings and all, >>though I'm still working on callie and the villians, but I can draw >>t-bone and razor really well, so send me your stories! > And Terra wrote this: >Maybe we don't need to. Just pick a story from the Rat's site, and boom! You >have an already written story, ready to be drawn. After all, if that's all >you need, go ahead! I don't mind, and I'm pretty sure the others won't >either. And when you're done, send me a copy, okay? And some shkitzo weirdo who is totally oblivious to realiaty wrote this: Why not just somehow putting them up for everyone (I go insane without Kats stuff) to see? (You do have access to a scanner, don't you?) Then, everyone'll get to see your CREATIVE GENIUS of intepeting fanfics (Anyone getting my point?). ______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." ______________________________________________________ Just one question, WHO AM I??????????????????????????? SHISH! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 00:24:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA15179 for kats-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:15:35 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA15174 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:15:31 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA102616; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:15:28 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604010515.AA102616@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Merchandise We'd Like to See: Introduction To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:15:28 +4200 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9604010452.AA63838@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> from "Kevin L. Knoles" at Mar 31, 96 10:52:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 500 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > I'm sure there are others that I'm forgetting. There are to more I just remembered: A SWAT Kats fighting game with all the characters. A SWAT Kats Calender (Every month is July?) |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 00:25:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA14854 for kats-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:08:51 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA14848 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:08:49 -0500 Received: from sl11.redding.snowcrest.net (sl11.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.75]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA20623 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 21:31:18 -0800 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 21:31:18 -0800 Message-Id: <199604010531.VAA20623@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Harvey, Archie and Turner - the unholy trinity of comicdom... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >>>Unfortunately, if there are any, none of us know of it. All those big shot >>>companies said "No" when asked to do one. Something about "cat characters >>>not working." >> >>All I got was quote "Whatsa SWAT Kat?" just what happens when you live in a >>small town! > >I thought you lived in No.Cal. What's a "small town" in No.Cal? >(lemme guess. They're still showing "Star Wars" at the local multiplex?) > Let's see here...... We have no mayor, no police protection, no jail, no industries, no high school, very low density commerce, and our biggest is the Saint Francis School Gym (Mabye three and a half stories tall, IF you're lucky, but I doubt it!) and BTW, we don't even HAVE a multiplex, or even a uniplex! Our nearest city has all these luxeries, so I have to there for everything except limated offace supplies, and limated food (pretty much twinkies from the three gas stations in our town!). Even in the nearest city, I get "TV? Is that some new fangled contraptionof the future?" GEEZ! (And we're considered large compared to the "Hick-Ville" area practaclly surrounding us. If you don't know what "Hick-Ville" means, DON'T ask your parents!) So SWAT Kats should be impossable to find up here! =8^(( > The last mention of a Kats-title >to Turner reps came at SanDiego comicon, where a rep from a comics >outfit approached a Turner rep to ask about a possible Kat-comic, and was >laughed off. How professional. > It never ceases to amaze me; the stupidity of the populace are the highest ranking officials in the world. Oh, the injustice of it all! ______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." ______________________________________________________ Just one question, WHO AM I??????????????????????????? SHISH! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 00:26:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA15155 for kats-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:15:00 -0500 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (root@mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA15143 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:14:58 -0500 Received: from sl11.redding.snowcrest.net (sl11.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.75]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA20878 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 21:37:29 -0800 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 21:37:29 -0800 Message-Id: <199604010537.VAA20878@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: "Children of the Stone" FAQ Guide Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>A Guide to FAQ to the "Children of the Stone" series >>> (or DJ's attempt to keep you guys from getting >>> COMPLETELY confused): >> >>You should put something like this onto Rat, as well. Would you like me to >>do this for you? >>Every great series needs one of these! > >Does this mean that good, mediocre, and not bad doesn't count? > Look. Good, mediocre and bad don't happen with the kats, because the series is too cool! (Arn't I wonderful?) >>>QUESTIONS ON 996 C.E. >> >>What does C.E. mean? I've always used A.D. for Kats stories, but wasn't sure >>on their time, so I avoided the subject, like a weirdo. > >Me too, I always avoided the year thing on my fanfic story, I just say something like "xxx years later" (or "xxx years ago", if it's happening in the past)" instead of saying the year (Although that saying the year could be cool thing to say. "The year is XXXX, the name of the place is... MegaKat city."). Now if only I can finished my story so that you guys can read it. It's called: stop everything else in your life! (Only, that kind of thing gets you into SERIOUS trouble!) ______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." ______________________________________________________ Just one question, WHO AM I??????????????????????????? SHISH! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 00:40:52 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA14998 for kats-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:11:08 -0500 Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA14993 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:11:05 -0500 Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA77872; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:11:02 -0600 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604010511.AA77872@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: How does Katkind measured their time? To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:11:02 +4200 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at Apr 1, 96 10:25:09 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1834 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > In SWAT Kats we can see that their civilization is paralel to our's late= > 20th century civilization, but we still doesn't know how they use their= > years, are they based in 365 days? or could they based on a sky object like= There's a tremendous number of similarities between the Kat Planet and our own, too many to mean a coincidence, but some strange type of science fiction plot device that creates similar worlds. I'd say the Kat Kalender (Hey, another item of merchandise!) is so identical to our own as to be stastically insignifigant. That means 365.25 days a year, and as the calender on the wall shows (I think), probably similar months as well. > a certain star or a certain moon (If the Kats planet has more than one= > moon) ? what year does the SwatKats live in? are their starting year is= I've only seen indication of one moon much like out own. Having already accepted all the other Earth like charcteristics of the Kat world (Which I don't think *is* Earth.), that's not too much more of a stretch for me. > mark by a certain event (Like the day the SwatKats put the Pastmaster out= > of commision in medieval times) ? Does anybody here want to put their opini= > ons? Well, they would have constellations based on Kat imagery; The big and little (Milk) Saucers instead of Dippers, for instance. > I'm sorry if what I'm asking is background information, but it could be a= > great discussion topic in this list. It *is*, It *is*. > Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 00:42:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA15499 for kats-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:32:03 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA15489 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:31:58 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.210] (dyn1210a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.210]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id MAA19218 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:33:09 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:30:22 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Mutilor + Video games Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>What does mutilor remind you of? >> >>A Japanese type monster. > >You mean like Godzilla? Nope, I just said that because I think that I once saw an anime that one of of its character look like Mutilor. BTW, is it just me, or does Turmoil from "Cry Turmoil" look like an anime character? >>I'm not a Mortal Kombat fan, and not too fond of it either (I never like >>fighting games.). But a SWAT Kats 2D fighting game could be fun. > >I am, sorta. (And don't give me a "Terra, you're only twelve years old, that >stuff's too violent for you," speech. No, I won't. >I don't like the blood-n-guts stuff, Neither do I, I much prefer explosion and missile. >I like the stories of the characters. Why? I don't know.) Maybe because you the type of person that like dark and Gothic thing. >But then, I'm not a real fan of science fiction, so why am I here discussing >what this giant alien water pirate resembles? Maybe Mutilor reminds you of someone you know. >>------------------------------------- >>Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >>"A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." > >Terra Chang: >writer and poet ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 02:42:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA22582 for kats-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:39:02 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA22577 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:38:58 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.204] (dyn1204a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.204]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id OAA25672 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:40:12 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:37:23 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: The year is 1996, the name of the place is... The Kats mailing list. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>BTW, is the Kats definition of Christmas is the same as some definition of >>Christmas in our world? >> >I think it would be, IMO; I believe the Kat universe is similar to ours, so >their religious practice and such would be similar too. Any other thoughts, >folks? Yeah, why? > Peej -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 02:52:03 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA22560 for kats-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:38:40 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA22552 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:38:36 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.204] (dyn1204a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.204]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id OAA25624 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:39:45 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:36:57 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Games Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> I'm sure there are others that I'm forgetting. > > There are to more I just remembered: > > A SWAT Kats fighting game with all the characters. Hmmm, just like Street Fighters? OK, here's what I want to see: A battle chess like SWAT Kats chess game. An interactive SWAT Kats encylopedia. A SWAT Kats adventure game. A Rebel Assault like SWAT Kats game. >Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 02:53:03 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA22574 for kats-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:38:50 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA22569 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:38:46 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.204] (dyn1204a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.204]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id OAA25640 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:39:58 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:37:09 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: How does Katkind measured their time? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>or could they based on a sky object like a certain star or a certain moon >>(If the Kats planet has more than one moon) ? > > I've only seen indication of one moon much like out own. Their moon seem to be bigger than ours, and don't tell me again that is only optical ilusion. > Well, they would have constellations based on Kat imagery; The big >and little (Milk) Saucers instead of Dippers, for instance. Hmmm, one thing for sure, the Milky Way will still remain the same. >> Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id > >Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 02:55:50 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA22566 for kats-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:38:42 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA22559 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:38:39 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.204] (dyn1204a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.204]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id OAA25635 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:39:51 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:37:04 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Stories Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>Every great series needs one of these! >> >>Does this mean that good, mediocre, and not bad doesn't count? >> >Look. Good, mediocre and bad don't happen with the kats, because the series >is too cool! (Arn't I wonderful?) Does this mean that every story about the Kats is great? >______________________________________________________ >Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley >SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan >"Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." >______________________________________________________ >Just one question, WHO AM I??????????????????????????? SHISH! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 03:04:12 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id CAA22551 for kats-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:38:36 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA22546 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:38:32 -0500 Received: from [202.154.6.204] (dyn1204a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.204]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id OAA25619 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:39:37 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:36:50 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Stories, Fanfic stories. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Does this mean that good, mediocre, and not bad doesn't count? > >Good, yes. Mediocre and bad . . . yeah right. Oh well, I guess that have to resign from the fanfic story writing departement. Hmmm, maybe I should try to draw some Kats art. >But I've got a suggestion. In the script >premiere of "Cold War," they mention a few years when the 'Kat guys fought >certain enemies. I don't remember any exactly, but you can always check. I think that the first two numbers is for the year (Our year) and the last two numbers is for somekind sequence number. Maybe it was labeled that so that the production crew will know who is the enemy that SwatKats fought before. Example: Bacteria monster (9301), means that the enemy was first shown in 1993 and the number 1 means that it was the first enemy that the SWAT Kats fight in that year (My second guess is that is the episode number.). >>Now if only I can finished my story so that you guys can read it. > >I *know* this is a 'Kats list, but to quote a certain blue hedgehog: "We're >waiting . . ." Hmmm, to quote a certain ambassador: "You are not ready." >And if you're too embarrassed to send it to Rat, send >it to me! at least, okay? It's not that I'm embarrassed or anything, it's just that I'm affraid that my story gonna do more harm than good. >>------------------------------------- >>Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >>"A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." > >Terra Chang: >writer and poet -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 10:04:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA18711 for kats-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:52:01 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA18697 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:51:56 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d144.infoserve.net [199.175.157.144]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA08853 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 07:12:39 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 07:12:39 -0800 Message-Id: <199604011512.HAA08853@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Harvey, Archie and Turner - the unholy trinity of comicdom... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Ryan wrote: >(And we're considered large compared to the "Hick-Ville" area practaclly >surrounding us. If you don't know what "Hick-Ville" means, DON'T ask your >parents!) Heh. Why does *this* sentence sound vaguely familiar? I wrote: >> The last mention of a Kats-title >>to Turner reps came at SanDiego comicon, where a rep from a comics >>outfit approached a Turner rep to ask about a possible Kat-comic, and was >>laughed off. How professional. Ryan wrote: (sigh. my kingdom for a quoter...) >It never ceases to amaze me; the stupidity of the populace are the highest >ranking officials in the world. Oh, the injustice of it all! Try talking to the upper echelons of executivedom for a good laugh (or, some officers in the reserves for that matter), as you find yourself redefining "stupid" almost on a daily basis. How do these folks rise to such a "responsible" position on the strength of a single, lonely brain cell? Certain cartoon execs are princes even among these. ______________________________________________________ >Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley >SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan >"Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." >______________________________________________________ Hey Ryan...when you gonna fix this, bro? "Immortality"....two "m"'s. (Thanks to my neighbours Merriam and Tormont Webster. He drinks. She gardens. Sad really.) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 10:26:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA20909 for kats-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:12:14 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA20904 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:12:11 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d144.infoserve.net [199.175.157.144]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA09476 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 07:32:55 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 07:32:55 -0800 Message-Id: <199604011532.HAA09476@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Mutilor + Video games Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>------------------------------------- >>>Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >>>"A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." >> >>Terra Chang: >>writer and poet > >------------------------------------- >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >"A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." Quoting sigs is the height of flattery 'n' all, but the the finer points of netiquette plaintively ask that you, well...don't. Basically, just make sure that the last thing you do before hitting "send" is to go down to the bottom of your post with the "page down" key or similar, and make sure there isn't anything you didn't see. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 10:27:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA21342 for kats-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:20:27 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA21332 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:20:23 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d144.infoserve.net [199.175.157.144]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA09658 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 07:41:01 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 07:41:01 -0800 Message-Id: <199604011541.HAA09658@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Stories, Fanfic stories. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I think that the first two numbers is for the year (Our year) and the last two numbers is for somekind sequence number. Maybe it was labeled that so that the production crew will know who is the enemy that SwatKats fought before. > >Example: Bacteria monster (9301), means that the enemy was first shown in 1993 and the number 1 means that it was the first enemy that the SWAT Kats fight in that year (My second guess is that is the episode number.). You win on your second guess! (pick up your cookie at the door). "93" is the year, "01" is the ep in sequence. "9402" is the code for "Mutation City", as it started the second season. Brownie points for guessing what "9401" was. >It's not that I'm embarrassed or anything, it's just that I'm affraid that my story gonna do more harm than good. Dangerous fanfic? Hmm. Advocating the violent overthrow of some third world nation, or something more local? _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 10:44:52 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA20697 for kats-ll; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:09:19 -0500 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA20687 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:09:12 -0500 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d144.infoserve.net [199.175.157.144]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA09374 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 07:29:53 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 07:29:53 -0800 Message-Id: <199604011529.HAA09374@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Deadly Budget? 700K for a katsep? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Ouch. $700 K? Let's keep this quiet, give the series a bad rep and all. >When did he make that comment, BTW? And do you know what episode it may have >been? I hope it wasn't The Deadly Pyramid, but the animation *looks* that >expensive. Or was it not a matter of expensive animation but waste in the >production at H-B? He made the comment on rec.arts.animation around, oh, October last year, and in response to a post of Mark Evanier's talking about "Mighty Orbots being the most expensive series ever made". Evanier and Potamkin are fast friends. Again, I don't even know if he was talking about the 'Kats, but when I suggested "The Deadly Pyramid" as the likely culprit, the suggestion was neither acknowledged nor denied. Probably the e-mail equivalent of "no comment". I'd bet the budget was creeping up and up since the first season, and was a bit out of control for elements of the second. That's just a guess. > $9.8 million if I remember correctly. Lion King shredded it. Balto's >another excellent film with an unfortunate theatrical death ($11.6 million) >because it isn't Dinsey. Bingo. It had some heavy scenes and was not geared completely to the kiddie market, and as a result is a *fine* film. Disney showed death in the form of Bambi, Tod's mother, Gaston and Mufasa, but "Balto" depicted it as coffins being readied for use; IMO *far* more powerful. Kats has a lot of potentially powerful setups that could be explored in a film, but it would die a horrible, shrieking death if aimed at seven year-olds. The anime route is the only one to take. >> Okay. Someone at Warners wrote up a neat little short about the innermost >> workings of the Turner org called "Two Stupid Producers" which evidently > I don't suppose you could have it or could post it, could you? >Nah...Forget I asked, it's just too cruel. Well, I could....but then I'd have to kill you. No, seriously -- I'd love to but keelhauling is so painful, and certain people would land in a world of hurt. We all have a sense of humour, but Tedco's is occasionally a bit underdeveloped. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________